WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.520 --> 00:00:05.519 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on 2 00:00:05.679 --> 00:00:10.240 Fox Sports fourteenth fIF day powered by Nova Insurance Services 3 00:00:10.599 --> 00:00:12.800 Ensure your most Prized POSSESSIONETS. 4 00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:32.200 How about now there we go. Okay, here we go. 5 00:00:32.799 --> 00:00:34.560 Sorry, everybody, Welcome to Eye and the Ball here on 6 00:00:34.600 --> 00:00:39.079 Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and you're Dave Silver. 7 00:00:39.119 --> 00:00:43.840 Welcome everybody for the little slight delight. Welcome to Tuesday. Dave, 8 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:44.320 how you doing. 9 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:46.799 I'm seeing you. Well, yeah, it's great. Everything's fine. 10 00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:50.280 Yeah, looking forward to kind of the summer sort of starting. 11 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:51.759 I guess we've still got a few u of a 12 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:54.479 sports to talk about, and the high schools seem like 13 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:55.399 they're wrapping things up. 14 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:58.679 So today's going to be Championship Tuesday, just for your 15 00:00:59.000 --> 00:01:00.520 championship of schools. 16 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:03.719 I know I need to kind of refresh my high 17 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:06.200 school coverage brain. I haven't really done too much of 18 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:08.040 that in the last number of years. But you know, 19 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:10.000 we've got a couple of great champions here from the 20 00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:10.640 Tucson area. 21 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:13.920 Now that now that you're long gone from your your 22 00:01:13.920 --> 00:01:16.599 TV gig, how when you did your sports did you 23 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:18.920 get feedback from college? Uh? 24 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:20.120 Did you get like gratings? 25 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:22.799 Of what was important to people locally and how where 26 00:01:22.799 --> 00:01:24.640 did where did high school fit? 27 00:01:25.719 --> 00:01:29.040 Well, you know, in my mind, just because it's kind 28 00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:31.799 of the bread and butter of what I did, I 29 00:01:31.799 --> 00:01:35.000 thought it was important. But unfortunately, when we would get 30 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:37.519 a lot of research from whoever was doing that, high 31 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:39.840 school sports was was pretty low on the list. It 32 00:01:39.959 --> 00:01:43.120 was kind of a shame because because it's just very 33 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:46.480 centralized to the teams and those people from those schools, 34 00:01:46.760 --> 00:01:48.959 Like we go do a story, you know, on such 35 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:51.719 and such an athlete at you know whatever high school 36 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:54.640 and they're happy about it. 37 00:01:54.799 --> 00:01:57.000 Yeah, yeah, it makes sense. It was hard. It was hard. 38 00:01:57.120 --> 00:01:59.959 So the bread and butter obviously was there Zona basketball, football, yeah, 39 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:00.439 the rest. 40 00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:02.879 Yeah, but you know, I mean I grew up in 41 00:02:03.000 --> 00:02:06.079 places where, at least from a TV standpoint, that that 42 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:07.760 was what I had to do was high school school. 43 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:09.919 Right. I would have to run out and find some stories. 44 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:11.479 Sometimes I didn't even know where I was going. 45 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:13.599 I just get in the car and drive and you know, 46 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:17.000 show up at a school during basketball practice and you know, 47 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:17.879 turn around a story. 48 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:18.199 Yeah. 49 00:02:18.240 --> 00:02:21.120 Well, nowadays, in the way the media is built and 50 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:26.879 concerning local, local, local, you know, if you have like 51 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:29.479 a small paper in town or whatever, and you cover 52 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:32.960 local stuff. That's what's kind of surviving or keeping papers survived, 53 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:36.039 you know, alive. I should say the daily story is 54 00:02:36.199 --> 00:02:38.199 has its issues, right, but it's a bigger thing, and 55 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:40.159 it doesn't have the people to cover the high school. 56 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:44.439 It tries hard, obviously, but it's it's like you said, 57 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:47.560 it's it's it's more centralized. Like last night, CEO played 58 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:49.960 in the in the state title game up in Phoenix. 59 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:52.319 Channel four sent somebody up there. I don't know if 60 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:54.479 the other channels did too. I just got Channel four 61 00:02:54.879 --> 00:02:57.800 and and they did a story and they led with 62 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:02.680 it because they lost the finals and they had graduation day. 63 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:03.360 Oh I saw that. 64 00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:05.840 So the story was, you know, here's ten or eight 65 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:10.560 nine kids, ladies who didn't go to graduation, but they 66 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:13.199 had a graduation for them after the game after the lost. 67 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:15.639 A cute story, right, a cute story. But to your point, 68 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:17.919 only the people probably a cdo care about that. 69 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:19.840 Yeah, but that was that that also breaks it out 70 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:21.360 where it is a little bit more than just the 71 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:23.960 softest results and the highlights and you know, the interviews 72 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:25.439 and things like that. But that's a that is a 73 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:28.000 good story. We would I would appreciate to seeing those 74 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:29.039 kinds of stories. 75 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:30.680 Too, Yeah, because that's what you're there for, right to 76 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:32.439 tell the story other than the score. 77 00:03:32.759 --> 00:03:33.000 Yeah. 78 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:36.879 I mean, you know, with high school sports too, it 79 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:39.680 is a shame that the high school coverage is lacking. 80 00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:42.039 You know, not to bash the newspaper, but that was 81 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:44.439 a place you would always look on a Saturday morning. No, 82 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:46.199 we did it all the time. And you know, I 83 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:49.840 would call and we would have coaches call in and 84 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:51.479 parents call in with scores. 85 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:51.719 And things like that. 86 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:53.719 So it was a big deal, at least in my 87 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:54.759 day with with high schools. 88 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:55.159 Sure. 89 00:03:55.199 --> 00:03:57.520 Sure, that's when everybody was staffed fully right, or at 90 00:03:57.599 --> 00:03:59.199 least to fully back then. 91 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:03.000 Yeah, and you know we would maybe we definitely played 92 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:04.199 it big with high school. 93 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:07.680 Football on Fridaday nights. But the usual partner was a film. 94 00:04:08.240 --> 00:04:10.800 Had Phil Buehler, had Jake Knapp, had been our ned 95 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:14.319 had a few Serena Dorsey even way back when. So 96 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:16.199 we you know, we we you know, had a lot 97 00:04:16.199 --> 00:04:17.199 of a lot of people. 98 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:17.519 Going out there. 99 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:20.439 We would you know, try to hit maybe I don't know, 100 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:23.360 between five and seven games, just kind of depending on 101 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:25.959 the geography where the games were being played. And how 102 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:27.839 much we could get and get back to the station 103 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:29.920 in time, right, you know, to put things together. So 104 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:32.399 it was a it was a priority, especially on Fridays, 105 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:34.720 but beyond that, it was hard. There are so many 106 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:37.279 high school basketball games during the during the week, you 107 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:39.000 could almost turn around as a game. There must be 108 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:41.360 a game tonight, let's go out and cover that. But 109 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:43.800 football was definitely concentrated on those. 110 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:46.560 Sure, sure, and I think if I can remember quickly, 111 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:49.160 you were one of the three that did the extended time. 112 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:50.360 Yeah, on Friday nights. 113 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:53.439 Yeah, thanks to our sales department, they could sell an 114 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:56.399 extra maybe couple commercial breaks, so we would go I 115 00:04:56.399 --> 00:04:59.040 think to maybe ten forty ten forty five somethings like that. 116 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:00.199 And that'd be at the end of the show, show 117 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:01.759 right right, and go extra. 118 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:04.800 Which was good because it was a scramble sometimes getting 119 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:07.759 all that put together in the highlights and writing it 120 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:09.959 out and you know, trying to describe all the plays. 121 00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:10.240 It was. 122 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:12.439 It was a challenging day. 123 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:16.360 But yeah, good news about the softball and baseball teams here. 124 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:21.560 Yeah, so we'll be getting the Empire softball coach. Coach 125 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:28.079 I just the lesson named Shannon. This is how bad. 126 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:28.920 I I've got it. 127 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:34.759 Well Ridge, Well Rich Shannon Wooldridge, we communicated today. He'll 128 00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:37.680 be calling us at three seventeen. And then Danny Prebble 129 00:05:37.720 --> 00:05:41.000 from from the South Point. They won last night. They 130 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:44.360 easily eight zero up in Phoenix or against Phoenix team 131 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:46.360 all Free, I think it was. And so that was 132 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:48.199 a nice little win. I think you hadn't won the 133 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:50.920 title since twenty nineteen at some point, you know, once 134 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:53.399 again continues to be one of those schools down here 135 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:55.680 that as well, they. 136 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:56.879 Can compete, that's for sure. 137 00:05:56.959 --> 00:05:59.279 They can compete with the Phoenix area schools and they 138 00:05:59.319 --> 00:05:59.800 always have. 139 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:02.560 So it's nice to have at least, you know, maybe one. 140 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:05.199 Chance you know, in that in that uh what five 141 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:08.199 A or four A whatever they are four to be 142 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:09.240 able to compete, that's good. 143 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:11.439 News, right right, Empire there was and then CEO. Like 144 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:13.000 I said last night, there was a few of the 145 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:16.680 teams locally had had a shot at winning titles but 146 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:19.439 didn't CEO. And I'm not sure how you might text 147 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:22.040 me with the other one. I think there was four, 148 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:24.639 I don't know which ones. If you got all Sports 149 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:27.199 to sound, maybe I can know that I'm controlling this machine. 150 00:06:26.920 --> 00:06:31.600 Here Yeah, so we'll see. 151 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:33.759 Rough go for the Wildcats softball team, and they've already 152 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:36.600 started to lose a few players of the transfer portal already, 153 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:41.000 So give me the one game. Well, for sure, I 154 00:06:41.079 --> 00:06:43.399 used to Silva is going one of the pictures left 155 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:43.959 handed pitcher. 156 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:46.639 Yeah, she's made an appearance Saturday. I think she was 157 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:50.720 the second one in after after the starter. 158 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:53.279 She went to Mountain View speaking at local. Yeah, she 159 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:56.240 was a local product. But you know, losing Devin Nats 160 00:06:56.279 --> 00:07:01.839 and losing Miranda Stoddard, you know, who knows what the 161 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:03.759 pitching's task gonna look like a year from now? It's 162 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:04.480 right right. 163 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:06.879 Well, we had a pretty good discussion yesterday with I had, 164 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:09.759 at least I did with with Troy and some people. 165 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:12.319 Maybe Vic can calling because he texted me after the 166 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:15.959 show talking about the show. He was pretty Troy was 167 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:21.439 pretty adamant in that the coaches mishandled the pictures. It's 168 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:24.480 been it's been a up and down year when you 169 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:26.240 only lose thirteen games. 170 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:28.079 I don't know. I don't know enough about to talk 171 00:07:28.079 --> 00:07:29.240 about that, but other people do. 172 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:34.199 And talked about the coach how she's kind of like, 173 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:37.399 you know, it's middling now, it's not obviously the Candrea years, 174 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:42.079 which everybody compares everything to understandably or on or not 175 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:43.160 realistically whatever. 176 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:45.279 Yeah, I mean, you know, she's a product of the 177 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:48.079 Carea system, and I think a lot of people expected 178 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:50.199 good things and it's been you know, it's been okay, 179 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:52.439 it's been good that you've gotten, you know, to some 180 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:56.000 pretty good spots in her time as the coach as 181 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:58.399 far as getting the World Series and winning championships and 182 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:01.160 you know, competing the Big Twelve, which was tough when 183 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:04.319 there's really one great, great pitcher who dominated a texta attack. 184 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:04.720 Yeah. 185 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:08.079 So you know, still finished second in the conference, So 186 00:08:08.319 --> 00:08:11.279 you know, there's a not Unfortunately, you know, you're judged 187 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:13.879 on how things end sometimes and you know, to lose 188 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:16.319 in the first round basically or the first weekend is 189 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:16.720 not good. 190 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:20.040 Sure, no, and we talked about that too. In basketball, 191 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:22.800 everything matters in March, yep and April if you get 192 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:25.399 to April, and everything in softball matters in May. 193 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:27.040 Yeah, I mean that's kind of how the team's going 194 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:29.680 to be remembered. Unfortunately, that's usually how things go. How 195 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:31.480 do they do that year? Oh wait, wait a minute, 196 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:34.519 they didn't make a past regional super regional that's going 197 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:37.159 to be. Yeah, yeah, that's the standard. 198 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:40.240 That The funny thing about is Kendrea is the grandfather 199 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:42.559 of all this, right, he created this monster, and the 200 00:08:42.559 --> 00:08:43.919 monster's eating the program. 201 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:46.559 Yeah, it just is because the SEC has now kind 202 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:47.080 of taken over. 203 00:08:47.240 --> 00:08:49.240 Yeah, well you could see that coming about ten years 204 00:08:49.279 --> 00:08:52.360 ago when the SEC you know, got into it, into 205 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:56.240 the into you know, women's softball with these big football 206 00:08:56.279 --> 00:08:58.360 stadiums and generating all kinds of money and it was 207 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:00.200 just that it had so much money to throw into 208 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:03.879 a Florida and Alabama and Georgia teams and that they've 209 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:06.759 had good success and you know, kind of passed by 210 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:08.360 the Pac twelve as it was. 211 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:10.679 Right, and they have a lot of teams in this tournament. 212 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:13.639 Oklahoma is now the darling because of what they've done 213 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:16.200 in the recent past. The number one team though, is 214 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:20.240 out with Texas A and M. But shocking, yeah, it is. 215 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:24.320 It is shocking. But here we are talking about softball 216 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:27.600 still in May, which is a good thing if you're 217 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:29.679 a nervor's old a fan, right, A bad thing if 218 00:09:29.679 --> 00:09:30.639 you lose, you lose. 219 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:33.440 Yeah, a little bit of a surprise. I think everybody 220 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:36.679 you know was shocked they lost that. What the second 221 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:40.360 game to Ole Miss and the second game of the weekend, 222 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:42.000 you know, kind of put them behind the eight ball 223 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:44.240 and had to go, you know, through the loser's bracket 224 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:46.399 and you know, club them big time on the first 225 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:47.480 game on Sunday. 226 00:09:47.159 --> 00:09:50.639 And don't do anything in the second game. Just the 227 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:53.559 way it goes. So how you play that day, how 228 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:54.279 you play that game? 229 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:58.120 Yeah, I mean it's interesting how it just did play out, 230 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:00.159 and that they really you know, they just destroyed them 231 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:01.879 in that first game, and there's all kinds of momentum 232 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:04.559 and then literally you flip a switch and like a 233 00:10:04.600 --> 00:10:06.440 forty five minutes later, it was almost a different team 234 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:09.519 was out there offensively, couldn't come up with a big hit. 235 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:12.559 Right. You remember the glory days? Right? Did you go 236 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:14.879 to Oklaho? Oh many times? Yeah? 237 00:10:14.879 --> 00:10:17.720 I went early in the early nineties, first thing, and 238 00:10:17.759 --> 00:10:19.200 then I covered the basket bustle. 239 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:19.960 Yeah we went. 240 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:22.559 We didn't go the first time they won a championship 241 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:24.840 because I don't think anybody even realized that they were 242 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:26.399 going to be that good. Yeah, and then all of 243 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:28.399 a sudden, it's like, oh wha wait a second, and 244 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:30.120 so then all of a sudden we started going. So 245 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:32.240 we we pretty much went every time that they were. 246 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:33.919 Yeah, it was a good week because they were there 247 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:35.600 for a long time. Yeah, for a long time, like 248 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:37.639 a week or so. You were guaranteed, like you know, 249 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:39.360 four or five days there, no matter what. 250 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:41.320 Yeah, tornadoes, tornadoes. 251 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:43.679 Didn't have a tornado, but I think I remember one 252 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:46.399 year we got there just after a tornado. So, like 253 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:50.480 the neighborhoods around Oklahoma City were pretty well hit. But 254 00:10:51.080 --> 00:10:54.039 we had some rainy days, rainy, and that would kind 255 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:58.039 of mess up the whole schedule too, because day lads. Yeah, 256 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:00.919 I mean even I remember going back even that way 257 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:04.080 back when when U A went to Omaha in eighty six, 258 00:11:04.279 --> 00:11:08.000 for example, there was rain and issues and we joked 259 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:09.519 we were like staying at Camp Omaha. 260 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:12.159 We were there for like ten days. Yeah, you know, 261 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:14.200 got in like four games and what's the paper and 262 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:14.919 what's the TV? 263 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:18.919 You're coming back? Don't spend too much money, Yeah, what 264 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:21.039 you're still out there? Yeah, you know kind of thing. 265 00:11:21.919 --> 00:11:24.320 I think they lose, didn't they win? But no, it 266 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:26.720 allows a long week. I think we were there twelve days. 267 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:28.440 Yeah, it might have been the longest trip I ever 268 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:31.080 took Probably with U of a sports. 269 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:33.519 You wouldn't somebody else write your photographer. Probably back in 270 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:34.840 the day when you didn't have to worry about it, 271 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:37.360 you weren't the photographer. No, you know what I'm saying, 272 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:39.279 because nowadays everybody's their own photographer. 273 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:39.480 True. 274 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:43.279 True, I'm glad you're I'm sure you're glad you're out 275 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:45.440 of it. Oh maybe no, I don't know. 276 00:11:45.799 --> 00:11:48.120 Yeah, well, you know what what would I have been 277 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:51.000 doing on Sunday night at ten o'clock this best Sunday out. 278 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:54.759 They're doing postgame interviews after they lose. 279 00:11:55.039 --> 00:11:57.840 That's not fun. The NETS interview was did you see it? 280 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:01.240 She was, you know, down trying to upset, right, yeah, yeah, 281 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:05.120 And those are sad times to watch. But it's makes 282 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:08.360 for good video, good TV, you know what I'm saying. 283 00:12:08.559 --> 00:12:11.120 Not that it's I'm trying to say that's good or bad, 284 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:12.679 but it's it's it's part of the story. 285 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:15.159 It's dramatic, it's draumatic story, and you know, they feel 286 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:18.320 sure bad. It's it's been their life. Yeah, the last 287 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:18.840 four years. 288 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:20.559 I don't know about you, and I think about this 289 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:22.960 at the time when I go into a losing locker room. Uh, 290 00:12:23.159 --> 00:12:26.879 and it's not death obviously, that's the painful stories, all right, Uh, 291 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:29.000 unless the family wants to talk about it. You know 292 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:33.080 how I went through it just recently. But the worst 293 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:34.799 place to be is the locker room and been losing 294 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:38.480 team because one it's hard to get stuff and it's 295 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:40.440 hard to paint a picture. Although the pictures right there 296 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:42.759 with the towels over their heads and right, YadA YadA. 297 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:45.600 Yeah, I mean we were in some sad ones in 298 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:48.360 basketball for sure. Football too. Football maybe not as much 299 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:50.519 because then you know, you lose a bowl game whatever, 300 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:52.600 maybe you're you're nine to three year instead. 301 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:54.519 Of well rich, except if you're rich Router and you 302 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:56.000 lose a bowl game, he's still pissed. 303 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:57.519 You're like the fresh festival. 304 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:00.559 Yeah, but basketball was rough, it was those were some 305 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:03.919 tough flucker rooms with you in eighty nine? Were you 306 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:06.799 there in dy nine Horse they lose and Seawan Sean's 307 00:13:06.840 --> 00:13:08.720 in the corner holding his mom. 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