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Speaker 3: Sorry, everybody, Welcome to Eye and the Ball here on
Speaker 3: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and you're Dave Silver.
Speaker 3: Welcome everybody for the little slight delight. Welcome to Tuesday. Dave,
Speaker 3: how you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm seeing you. Well, yeah, it's great. Everything's fine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, looking forward to kind of the summer sort of starting.
Speaker 4: I guess we've still got a few u of a
Speaker 4: sports to talk about, and the high schools seem like
Speaker 4: they're wrapping things up.
Speaker 3: So today's going to be Championship Tuesday, just for your
Speaker 3: championship of schools.
Speaker 4: I know I need to kind of refresh my high
Speaker 4: school coverage brain. I haven't really done too much of
Speaker 4: that in the last number of years. But you know,
Speaker 4: we've got a couple of great champions here from the
Speaker 4: Tucson area.
Speaker 3: Now that now that you're long gone from your your
Speaker 3: TV gig, how when you did your sports did you
Speaker 3: get feedback from college? Uh?
Speaker 2: Did you get like gratings?
Speaker 3: Of what was important to people locally and how where
Speaker 3: did where did high school fit?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, in my mind, just because it's kind
Speaker 4: of the bread and butter of what I did, I
Speaker 4: thought it was important. But unfortunately, when we would get
Speaker 4: a lot of research from whoever was doing that, high
Speaker 4: school sports was was pretty low on the list. It
Speaker 4: was kind of a shame because because it's just very
Speaker 4: centralized to the teams and those people from those schools,
Speaker 4: Like we go do a story, you know, on such
Speaker 4: and such an athlete at you know whatever high school
Speaker 4: and they're happy about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it makes sense. It was hard. It was hard.
Speaker 3: So the bread and butter obviously was there Zona basketball, football, yeah,
Speaker 3: the rest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, I mean I grew up in
Speaker 4: places where, at least from a TV standpoint, that that
Speaker 4: was what I had to do was high school school.
Speaker 2: Right. I would have to run out and find some stories.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I didn't even know where I was going.
Speaker 4: I just get in the car and drive and you know,
Speaker 4: show up at a school during basketball practice and you know,
Speaker 4: turn around a story.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, nowadays, in the way the media is built and
Speaker 3: concerning local, local, local, you know, if you have like
Speaker 3: a small paper in town or whatever, and you cover
Speaker 3: local stuff. That's what's kind of surviving or keeping papers survived,
Speaker 3: you know, alive. I should say the daily story is
Speaker 3: has its issues, right, but it's a bigger thing, and
Speaker 3: it doesn't have the people to cover the high school.
Speaker 3: It tries hard, obviously, but it's it's like you said,
Speaker 3: it's it's it's more centralized. Like last night, CEO played
Speaker 3: in the in the state title game up in Phoenix.
Speaker 3: Channel four sent somebody up there. I don't know if
Speaker 3: the other channels did too. I just got Channel four
Speaker 3: and and they did a story and they led with
Speaker 3: it because they lost the finals and they had graduation day.
Speaker 2: Oh I saw that.
Speaker 3: So the story was, you know, here's ten or eight
Speaker 3: nine kids, ladies who didn't go to graduation, but they
Speaker 3: had a graduation for them after the game after the lost.
Speaker 3: A cute story, right, a cute story. But to your point,
Speaker 3: only the people probably a cdo care about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that was that that also breaks it out
Speaker 4: where it is a little bit more than just the
Speaker 4: softest results and the highlights and you know, the interviews
Speaker 4: and things like that. But that's a that is a
Speaker 4: good story. We would I would appreciate to seeing those
Speaker 4: kinds of stories.
Speaker 3: Too, Yeah, because that's what you're there for, right to
Speaker 3: tell the story other than the score.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, with high school sports too, it
Speaker 4: is a shame that the high school coverage is lacking.
Speaker 4: You know, not to bash the newspaper, but that was
Speaker 4: a place you would always look on a Saturday morning. No,
Speaker 4: we did it all the time. And you know, I
Speaker 4: would call and we would have coaches call in and
Speaker 4: parents call in with scores.
Speaker 2: And things like that.
Speaker 4: So it was a big deal, at least in my
Speaker 4: day with with high schools.
Speaker 6: Sure.
Speaker 3: Sure, that's when everybody was staffed fully right, or at
Speaker 3: least to fully back then.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know we would maybe we definitely played
Speaker 4: it big with high school.
Speaker 2: Football on Fridaday nights. But the usual partner was a film.
Speaker 4: Had Phil Buehler, had Jake Knapp, had been our ned
Speaker 4: had a few Serena Dorsey even way back when. So
Speaker 4: we you know, we we you know, had a lot
Speaker 4: of a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Going out there.
Speaker 4: We would you know, try to hit maybe I don't know,
Speaker 4: between five and seven games, just kind of depending on
Speaker 4: the geography where the games were being played. And how
Speaker 4: much we could get and get back to the station
Speaker 4: in time, right, you know, to put things together. So
Speaker 4: it was a it was a priority, especially on Fridays,
Speaker 4: but beyond that, it was hard. There are so many
Speaker 4: high school basketball games during the during the week, you
Speaker 4: could almost turn around as a game. There must be
Speaker 4: a game tonight, let's go out and cover that. But
Speaker 4: football was definitely concentrated on those.
Speaker 3: Sure, sure, and I think if I can remember quickly,
Speaker 3: you were one of the three that did the extended time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, on Friday nights.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks to our sales department, they could sell an
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Speaker 4: think to maybe ten forty ten forty five somethings like that.
Speaker 2: And that'd be at the end of the show, show
Speaker 2: right right, and go extra.
Speaker 4: Which was good because it was a scramble sometimes getting
Speaker 4: all that put together in the highlights and writing it
Speaker 4: out and you know, trying to describe all the plays.
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 2: It was a challenging day.
Speaker 4: But yeah, good news about the softball and baseball teams here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll be getting the Empire softball coach. Coach
Speaker 3: I just the lesson named Shannon. This is how bad.
Speaker 2: I I've got it.
Speaker 3: Well Ridge, Well Rich Shannon Wooldridge, we communicated today. He'll
Speaker 3: be calling us at three seventeen. And then Danny Prebble
Speaker 3: from from the South Point. They won last night. They
Speaker 3: easily eight zero up in Phoenix or against Phoenix team
Speaker 3: all Free, I think it was. And so that was
Speaker 3: a nice little win. I think you hadn't won the
Speaker 3: title since twenty nineteen at some point, you know, once
Speaker 3: again continues to be one of those schools down here
Speaker 3: that as well, they.
Speaker 2: Can compete, that's for sure.
Speaker 4: They can compete with the Phoenix area schools and they
Speaker 4: always have.
Speaker 2: So it's nice to have at least, you know, maybe one.
Speaker 4: Chance you know, in that in that uh what five
Speaker 4: A or four A whatever they are four to be
Speaker 4: able to compete, that's good.
Speaker 3: News, right right, Empire there was and then CEO. Like
Speaker 3: I said last night, there was a few of the
Speaker 3: teams locally had had a shot at winning titles but
Speaker 3: didn't CEO. And I'm not sure how you might text
Speaker 3: me with the other one. I think there was four,
Speaker 3: I don't know which ones. If you got all Sports
Speaker 3: to sound, maybe I can know that I'm controlling this machine.
Speaker 2: Here Yeah, so we'll see.
Speaker 4: Rough go for the Wildcats softball team, and they've already
Speaker 4: started to lose a few players of the transfer portal already,
Speaker 4: So give me the one game. Well, for sure, I
Speaker 4: used to Silva is going one of the pictures left
Speaker 4: handed pitcher.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's made an appearance Saturday. I think she was
Speaker 3: the second one in after after the starter.
Speaker 4: She went to Mountain View speaking at local. Yeah, she
Speaker 4: was a local product. But you know, losing Devin Nats
Speaker 4: and losing Miranda Stoddard, you know, who knows what the
Speaker 4: pitching's task gonna look like a year from now? It's
Speaker 4: right right.
Speaker 3: Well, we had a pretty good discussion yesterday with I had,
Speaker 3: at least I did with with Troy and some people.
Speaker 3: Maybe Vic can calling because he texted me after the
Speaker 3: show talking about the show. He was pretty Troy was
Speaker 3: pretty adamant in that the coaches mishandled the pictures. It's
Speaker 3: been it's been a up and down year when you
Speaker 3: only lose thirteen games.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know enough about to talk
Speaker 2: about that, but other people do.
Speaker 3: And talked about the coach how she's kind of like,
Speaker 3: you know, it's middling now, it's not obviously the Candrea years,
Speaker 3: which everybody compares everything to understandably or on or not
Speaker 3: realistically whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, she's a product of the
Speaker 4: Carea system, and I think a lot of people expected
Speaker 4: good things and it's been you know, it's been okay,
Speaker 4: it's been good that you've gotten, you know, to some
Speaker 4: pretty good spots in her time as the coach as
Speaker 4: far as getting the World Series and winning championships and
Speaker 4: you know, competing the Big Twelve, which was tough when
Speaker 4: there's really one great, great pitcher who dominated a texta attack.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So you know, still finished second in the conference, So
Speaker 4: you know, there's a not Unfortunately, you know, you're judged
Speaker 4: on how things end sometimes and you know, to lose
Speaker 4: in the first round basically or the first weekend is
Speaker 4: not good.
Speaker 3: Sure, no, and we talked about that too. In basketball,
Speaker 3: everything matters in March, yep and April if you get
Speaker 3: to April, and everything in softball matters in May.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's kind of how the team's going
Speaker 4: to be remembered. Unfortunately, that's usually how things go. How
Speaker 4: do they do that year? Oh wait, wait a minute,
Speaker 4: they didn't make a past regional super regional that's going
Speaker 4: to be. Yeah, yeah, that's the standard.
Speaker 3: That The funny thing about is Kendrea is the grandfather
Speaker 3: of all this, right, he created this monster, and the
Speaker 3: monster's eating the program.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just is because the SEC has now kind
Speaker 2: of taken over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you could see that coming about ten years
Speaker 4: ago when the SEC you know, got into it, into
Speaker 4: the into you know, women's softball with these big football
Speaker 4: stadiums and generating all kinds of money and it was
Speaker 4: just that it had so much money to throw into
Speaker 4: a Florida and Alabama and Georgia teams and that they've
Speaker 4: had good success and you know, kind of passed by
Speaker 4: the Pac twelve as it was.
Speaker 3: Right, and they have a lot of teams in this tournament.
Speaker 3: Oklahoma is now the darling because of what they've done
Speaker 3: in the recent past. The number one team though, is
Speaker 3: out with Texas A and M. But shocking, yeah, it is.
Speaker 3: It is shocking. But here we are talking about softball
Speaker 3: still in May, which is a good thing if you're
Speaker 3: a nervor's old a fan, right, A bad thing if
Speaker 3: you lose, you lose.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit of a surprise. I think everybody
Speaker 4: you know was shocked they lost that. What the second
Speaker 4: game to Ole Miss and the second game of the weekend,
Speaker 4: you know, kind of put them behind the eight ball
Speaker 4: and had to go, you know, through the loser's bracket
Speaker 4: and you know, club them big time on the first
Speaker 4: game on Sunday.
Speaker 3: And don't do anything in the second game. Just the
Speaker 3: way it goes. So how you play that day, how
Speaker 3: you play that game?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's interesting how it just did play out,
Speaker 4: and that they really you know, they just destroyed them
Speaker 4: in that first game, and there's all kinds of momentum
Speaker 4: and then literally you flip a switch and like a
Speaker 4: forty five minutes later, it was almost a different team
Speaker 4: was out there offensively, couldn't come up with a big hit.
Speaker 2: Right. You remember the glory days? Right? Did you go
Speaker 2: to Oklaho? Oh many times? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I went early in the early nineties, first thing, and
Speaker 3: then I covered the basket bustle.
Speaker 2: Yeah we went.
Speaker 4: We didn't go the first time they won a championship
Speaker 4: because I don't think anybody even realized that they were
Speaker 4: going to be that good. Yeah, and then all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, it's like, oh wha wait a second, and
Speaker 4: so then all of a sudden we started going. So
Speaker 4: we we pretty much went every time that they were.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a good week because they were there
Speaker 3: for a long time. Yeah, for a long time, like
Speaker 3: a week or so. You were guaranteed, like you know,
Speaker 3: four or five days there, no matter what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tornadoes, tornadoes.
Speaker 4: Didn't have a tornado, but I think I remember one
Speaker 4: year we got there just after a tornado. So, like
Speaker 4: the neighborhoods around Oklahoma City were pretty well hit. But
Speaker 4: we had some rainy days, rainy, and that would kind
Speaker 4: of mess up the whole schedule too, because day lads. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean even I remember going back even that way
Speaker 4: back when when U A went to Omaha in eighty six,
Speaker 4: for example, there was rain and issues and we joked
Speaker 4: we were like staying at Camp Omaha.
Speaker 3: We were there for like ten days. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: got in like four games and what's the paper and
Speaker 3: what's the TV?
Speaker 2: You're coming back? Don't spend too much money, Yeah, what
Speaker 2: you're still out there? Yeah, you know kind of thing.
Speaker 2: I think they lose, didn't they win? But no, it
Speaker 2: allows a long week. I think we were there twelve days.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it might have been the longest trip I ever
Speaker 4: took Probably with U of a sports.
Speaker 3: You wouldn't somebody else write your photographer. Probably back in
Speaker 3: the day when you didn't have to worry about it,
Speaker 3: you weren't the photographer. No, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: because nowadays everybody's their own photographer.
Speaker 5: True.
Speaker 3: True, I'm glad you're I'm sure you're glad you're out
Speaker 3: of it. Oh maybe no, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know what what would I have been
Speaker 4: doing on Sunday night at ten o'clock this best Sunday out.
Speaker 4: They're doing postgame interviews after they lose.
Speaker 2: That's not fun. The NETS interview was did you see it?
Speaker 3: She was, you know, down trying to upset, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: And those are sad times to watch. But it's makes
Speaker 3: for good video, good TV, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Not that it's I'm trying to say that's good or bad,
Speaker 3: but it's it's it's part of the story.
Speaker 2: It's dramatic, it's draumatic story, and you know, they feel
Speaker 2: sure bad. It's it's been their life. Yeah, the last
Speaker 2: four years.
Speaker 3: I don't know about you, and I think about this
Speaker 3: at the time when I go into a losing locker room. Uh,
Speaker 3: and it's not death obviously, that's the painful stories, all right, Uh,
Speaker 3: unless the family wants to talk about it. You know
Speaker 3: how I went through it just recently. But the worst
Speaker 3: place to be is the locker room and been losing
Speaker 3: team because one it's hard to get stuff and it's
Speaker 3: hard to paint a picture. Although the pictures right there
Speaker 3: with the towels over their heads and right, YadA YadA.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we were in some sad ones in
Speaker 4: basketball for sure. Football too. Football maybe not as much
Speaker 4: because then you know, you lose a bowl game whatever,
Speaker 4: maybe you're you're nine to three year instead.
Speaker 3: Of well rich, except if you're rich Router and you
Speaker 3: lose a bowl game, he's still pissed.
Speaker 2: You're like the fresh festival.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but basketball was rough, it was those were some
Speaker 3: tough flucker rooms with you in eighty nine? Were you
Speaker 3: there in dy nine Horse they lose and Seawan Sean's
Speaker 3: in the corner holding his mom. I think it was,
Speaker 3: uh Chicago, Rosemont, were you there?
Speaker 2: I was there?
Speaker 3: Okay, you were still working in two thousand and six,
Speaker 3: and yeah, that was that was that was that was tough.
Speaker 3: Was about as bad as a guy that was kind
Speaker 3: of like the beginning of the interlude. You know, there
Speaker 3: were some other rough one.
Speaker 2: I mean, just do it.
Speaker 4: Every time they would lose, it was a first round
Speaker 4: loss or whatever.
Speaker 2: It was just tough to go in there and expect
Speaker 2: to get anything.
Speaker 4: Besides, you know, it's just kind of the same old response,
Speaker 4: little tears.
Speaker 2: And we'll use this. That's our motivation for next year.
Speaker 2: Don't build on this, you know. Sorry, we let down
Speaker 2: the seniors. Right. No, No, that line is the standard.
Speaker 3: And every year with that line, we're going to go
Speaker 3: and come back and wait for coach to give us
Speaker 3: a quick call.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to tying about your Flox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: I'm Steve Rivera. You're Dave Silver where you coach to call?
Speaker 14: Uh?
Speaker 2: He's calling me actually right now.
Speaker 5: So many tells call.
Speaker 2: So uh. This is what he says. So go ahead
Speaker 2: and let me go ahead and talk, so we may talk. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: you want to talk about well you were saying that, Well,
Speaker 2: tell me the history of of uh of he.
Speaker 4: The won No, they've won the well back to back
Speaker 4: championships and three a UH empire has and they've won
Speaker 4: uh three of the last they won one in twenty
Speaker 4: seventeen and then kind of came back in twenty twenty
Speaker 4: four to twenty five, so they've had a little bit
Speaker 4: of a dynasties on the line and that is him
Speaker 4: on the line. Coach, how are you coach, Woolriche, how
Speaker 4: are you doing?
Speaker 5: I'm doing great? How are you guys?
Speaker 3: Fine, Fine, congrats, it's been a little bit since you wanted,
Speaker 3: maybe a little more than a week, right.
Speaker 5: But congrats, thank you, appreciate it. You won.
Speaker 3: Dave was just rattling off some stuff. Dave, if you
Speaker 3: want to do that again, Yeah, I think he knows. Well, no, no,
Speaker 3: because that was not your first right is this?
Speaker 5: Were you the coach back at the beginning of this
Speaker 5: as well in fifteen, seventeen, twenty four, and twenty five.
Speaker 2: Oh this is you know, which is your favorite kid?
Speaker 2: You've had so many?
Speaker 5: Oh man. So someone asked me this question last week
Speaker 5: and I said the most recent one. But honestly, they're
Speaker 5: all special for different reasons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what about last night or the last weekends? What
Speaker 3: is special about it?
Speaker 5: We went back to back. You know, it's not easy
Speaker 5: to do. I've never been a part of any any
Speaker 5: championship well, I mean, all championship teams try to go
Speaker 5: back to back. But I really felt like this season
Speaker 5: we had the team to do it. We lost three
Speaker 5: seniors last season and we had a great core coming back,
Speaker 5: so I definitely felt like we could do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Obviously, just looking at you know, some of the stories
Speaker 4: about this last game and your season with with Kendall
Speaker 4: twenty and one record sixteen strikeouts in the championships. So
Speaker 4: maybe just maybe talk about her and how dominant she's
Speaker 4: been all year.
Speaker 5: Oh man, she is. What a blessing she has been
Speaker 5: to our program. You know, she she had a decent
Speaker 5: freshman year, like freshmen do, and then you know, between
Speaker 5: her freshmen and sophomore year, she really grew up. And
Speaker 5: you know, I knew she'd be good for us, but
Speaker 5: I never would have imagined that she would go go
Speaker 5: on to do what she did, and you know, she
Speaker 5: finished strong. I'm proud of her for that. You know,
Speaker 5: sometimes kids will have a you know, good sophomore junior
Speaker 5: year and then they you know, kind of take her
Speaker 5: foot off the gas a little bit. But Kendall did
Speaker 5: the opposite of that. She just really cranked things up
Speaker 5: to a point where, you know, late in the season,
Speaker 5: my daughter, who also coaches with us, that she's not losing.
Speaker 7: Dad.
Speaker 5: I don't know what to tell you and why I
Speaker 5: know that, but she's not going to lose. And I'm like,
Speaker 5: I hope you're right.
Speaker 2: Was she was? She was? She raced last year? Was
Speaker 2: she when you went to.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's been our race, the last since her sophomore year.
Speaker 2: So what does she do? M's been a record in
Speaker 2: three years. Must be fantastic.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think she's only lost four times since her
Speaker 5: sophomore maybe maybe her entire career. I think she's only
Speaker 5: lost four times. And then I know she had some
Speaker 5: I don't know, more than sixty lines or something like that.
Speaker 5: But yeah, we're going to miss her, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: She's going to Weaver State in Utah, which is her
Speaker 2: next next week.
Speaker 5: Yes, she's going to Weber State, and Wever State's luck
Speaker 5: either a getting a good one. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So so after last year's championship, like you said, you
Speaker 3: probably thought this year would be good too. How confident
Speaker 3: were you, Although that's a dumb question for a coach
Speaker 3: because you're never confident until you get there, right, So
Speaker 3: you had the core coming back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know, every year presents new challenges. That's
Speaker 5: what I've learned, you know, And obviously the challenges this
Speaker 5: year we're trying to fill the positions of those three seniors,
Speaker 5: you know, their roles, and then we had some you know,
Speaker 5: we had some new kids coming in, so trying to
Speaker 5: figure out how they were going to fit in there's
Speaker 5: always this process that you go through of you know,
Speaker 5: when you come back together in February, just you know,
Speaker 5: helping everyone you know jive and get connected, and you
Speaker 5: know that always takes a little bit of time, but
Speaker 5: you know, it took a little bit of time this year.
Speaker 5: This year was no different than previous years. But you know,
Speaker 5: once we got all all those relationships cemented, I feel like,
Speaker 5: you know, we we were able to start taking off
Speaker 5: and we kind of did that in a Badger Classic
Speaker 5: when we're playing the Tucson High Tournament. That's when I
Speaker 5: felt like we are clicking on all cylinders right now.
Speaker 5: This is awesome.
Speaker 4: Hey, you know, tell us a little bit about maybe
Speaker 4: just softball in southern Arizona.
Speaker 2: We've we've covered it.
Speaker 4: We know there's a great history, but I mean we're
Speaker 4: talking now ten years in a row in three A,
Speaker 4: a team from down here has won.
Speaker 2: The state championship. Why is that happening?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think it's a credit to the
Speaker 5: club circuit. You know, I think there's you know, quite
Speaker 5: a few girls playing competitive ball and also the pitching.
Speaker 5: You know, three A doesn't I don't think they get
Speaker 5: enough credit because we've got We've had good pictures in
Speaker 5: three for the last ten years, you know, pictures that
Speaker 5: have gone on to pitch at the next level. And
Speaker 5: this year in our own region, you know, you had Kendall,
Speaker 5: you had Avery Neilson over at Sabino, and then Claire
Speaker 5: over a Tanka Verdie. I mean that's three Division one
Speaker 5: caliber pitchers right there. So the pitching has been really,
Speaker 5: really good.
Speaker 3: Yes, well, you guys are making each other better to
Speaker 3: facing the competition.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. I mean definitely. When the bracket came
Speaker 5: out and I saw that we were playing Sabino and
Speaker 5: Tanka very I'm like, Wow, this ain't gonna be.
Speaker 15: But what it is?
Speaker 3: Right, So you've been coaching for a while now, you
Speaker 3: continue a white change, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So I've been coaching the twenty five years and
Speaker 5: I started in club and took over Empire in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm fifty six and I still really and
Speaker 5: I'm still fired up as ever, and I enjoy it.
Speaker 5: And I'm going to miss our seniors like crazy. I've
Speaker 5: cried once or twice, but you know, I'm already looking
Speaker 5: the next year and what we got coming back, and
Speaker 5: we got coming in and you know, we'll just try
Speaker 5: and do it again.
Speaker 4: You mentioned you mentioned clubs, So now where do some
Speaker 4: of these girls go during the summer.
Speaker 2: Did they go on.
Speaker 4: And join us with a club, maybe play with other
Speaker 4: players from around southern Arizona, other you know, other high
Speaker 4: school kids.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say that, Like, yeah, so for example,
Speaker 5: on our team, and I think we have five or
Speaker 5: six different uh uh, five or six different clubs represented.
Speaker 5: You know, some are with me, some are with our
Speaker 5: assistant coach, and then various other teams. And yeah, the
Speaker 5: thing is is that, you know, when high school teams
Speaker 5: get together, a lot of them are club teammates. They
Speaker 5: play each other throughout the year. So it's kind of
Speaker 5: an interesting phenomenon really, but you know, it's it's kind
Speaker 5: of neat. You know, you battle, and you can we're
Speaker 5: all competing in the win, but then afterwards, you know,
Speaker 5: they're still the best of friends, which is kind of cool.
Speaker 3: So are you doing do you do? See what you
Speaker 3: just said? You so you coach club as well after
Speaker 3: the high school season is over, you coach in the summer, Yes,
Speaker 3: I do. And how's that? And and you're talking about
Speaker 3: I don't know if I missed this, but the pitching
Speaker 3: because obviously in softball that's the number priority.
Speaker 2: If you have a good picture, you have a chance.
Speaker 2: How are they becoming so good?
Speaker 5: How are the pictures becoming so good?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 5: Oh, well, they work at it. You know, they all
Speaker 5: have pitching coaches, and you know, most of them play
Speaker 5: on club teams that play challenging schedules, which which pushes
Speaker 5: them to be better. You know, there's just you know,
Speaker 5: they're just you know, it's a cliche, but you know
Speaker 5: they're putting in the time and their parents are paying
Speaker 5: for their lessons, and that they're playing on teams at
Speaker 5: push them.
Speaker 4: And as far as the exposure, did they get seen
Speaker 4: more during the summer or do they get seen more
Speaker 4: during the high school seasons these days?
Speaker 5: For Oh yeah, yeah, sorry to interrupt you, but yea,
Speaker 5: as far as college exposure goes, yeah, it's uh, it's
Speaker 5: all happening in the summer in the fall.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, So you must get in your club team.
Speaker 3: Do you have a lot of the girls play for you?
Speaker 3: Or you said your assistant has some of them too,
Speaker 3: But how's that spread out?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just well, what do you mean how is
Speaker 5: it spread out?
Speaker 3: Like if you have maybe fifteen in a roster eighteen.
Speaker 3: I don't know what a high school roster contrives of
Speaker 3: or comprises what like, you get maybe five and your
Speaker 3: assistant gets five and just happens standardly go who they
Speaker 3: want to play.
Speaker 5: Well, we're both with different organizations. Her team's a little
Speaker 5: bit younger, you know, she started with her team when
Speaker 5: they were you know, she's got kids from you know,
Speaker 5: not just Empire, but from all over they sure, you know,
Speaker 5: that's that's the same way with me too. I mean
Speaker 5: I've got uh, you know, kids from all over the city.
Speaker 5: You know, not just this part of town, but you
Speaker 5: know northwest part of town as well. It's just, you know,
Speaker 5: we kind of look at as a place where kids
Speaker 5: a competitive place where kids get to come play.
Speaker 2: So do you have a nucleus to make it a
Speaker 2: three piece next year?
Speaker 5: Well, it's going to be entirely different year next year,
Speaker 5: you know, because we're losing six starters. But we've got
Speaker 5: some key kids coming back and some and some you know,
Speaker 5: some new kids coming in. It's just you know, my
Speaker 5: daughter reminded me she was on the twenty fifteen team,
Speaker 5: but that was her favorite championships. She said, that's kind
Speaker 5: of when the wheels were put in the motion that
Speaker 5: you know, the expectation when you come to Empire is,
Speaker 5: you know, we're going to compete for championships, and so
Speaker 5: even though it'll be pretty much an entirely different team
Speaker 5: next year, you know, the goal is still the same.
Speaker 5: But you know, the goal is the same, but all
Speaker 5: the little little things that we do during the season
Speaker 5: to get us to that point, you know, that's honestly,
Speaker 5: that's probably my favorite part more than anything. The championships
Speaker 5: are awesome, but I love the journey, especially with the
Speaker 5: kids that we get that Empire. They're just you know,
Speaker 5: they're great kids, they're good students, and you know they're
Speaker 5: buying into what you're doing. So it makes it all worthwhile.
Speaker 3: Do you Part of that journey is probably having a
Speaker 3: second picture, do you she gonna be the number one?
Speaker 3: Is having them now turning into a number one picture.
Speaker 5: So next year we will have we're gonna have h
Speaker 5: three or four, maybe five pictures in our program, which
Speaker 5: will be Yeah, it'll be something new for us, So
Speaker 5: you know, I don't We'll see how it all shakes out.
Speaker 5: You know, in the past, we've if we've got a
Speaker 5: hot hand. We you know, we ride the hot hands
Speaker 5: and then but the man if we and there was
Speaker 5: one year where we had two dynamite pictures and you know,
Speaker 5: we have a back and forth. So I don't know,
Speaker 5: we'll have to see who steps up next year.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And like you said, you're getting attention from
Speaker 4: Division one schools and what other schools besides uh Leaver
Speaker 4: State have looked at some of your players just out
Speaker 4: of curiosity.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no problem. So we have two kids that are
Speaker 5: going to Northern Colorado, Abbey ZiT Bay and ave a Piece.
Speaker 5: They're going to go to Northern Colorado. And then we've
Speaker 5: got a girl up on the Arizon, a Christian. And
Speaker 5: then our sh stop, Angie Taylor, is going to pem Up.
Speaker 3: Oh nice, okay, great, yeah yeah. So let me ask
Speaker 3: you a weird question. You're fifty six, which is relatively young.
Speaker 2: Thank you, so you can thank you me.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sixty and I feel it's nice to feel
Speaker 3: young coach, and you've been twenty five years. Has the
Speaker 3: athlete to coach different than it was twenty five fifteen
Speaker 3: years ago?
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, you know what, I don't know. That's hard
Speaker 5: to say. You know, we all think that things are
Speaker 5: different now right than they used to be, not just
Speaker 5: with such sports, but just with a lot of things.
Speaker 5: I don't know, you know, I don't know, you know
Speaker 5: I would. I've been just very fortunate with the kids
Speaker 5: that come through Empire. I just I feel like the
Speaker 5: characteristics have been consistently the same. You know, in my time,
Speaker 5: there just great kids, good students, hard workers, were willing
Speaker 5: to you know, to kind of do what it takes,
Speaker 5: subscribe to the team, and you know, try to help
Speaker 5: team in games. So I feel like my experience, you know,
Speaker 5: for the most part, the good kids that I worked
Speaker 5: with twenty five years ago, or you know, the same
Speaker 5: good kids that I'm working with today.
Speaker 3: Well, if I could real quick, does how does your
Speaker 3: daughter being on the sideline help you? Because she's relatively
Speaker 3: young I figured maybe twenty eight, twenty nine, and handling
Speaker 3: the girls too, so you.
Speaker 5: Know, having her and then having Canvas who also is
Speaker 5: a former player, and Alley Hill a former player. Honestly
Speaker 5: all three of them because they have extensive softball background
Speaker 5: and playing at a high level, you know, they bring
Speaker 5: that to the table, and then just they just have
Speaker 5: a you know, I feel like I relate to the
Speaker 5: kids pretty well, but they just as women. They just
Speaker 5: relate to the girls on a whole different level that
Speaker 5: I cannot. And you know, so it's you know, one
Speaker 5: thing I've learned too is so there's that piece and
Speaker 5: just also you know, not being afraid to say, you
Speaker 5: know what, you know, what do you think? Do you
Speaker 5: think is this going?
Speaker 15: Okay?
Speaker 5: Do you have a better idea? You know, I'm just
Speaker 5: you know, one piece into a lot of little pieces
Speaker 5: that that make this thing go. And I just you know,
Speaker 5: I really kind of rely on their experience, knowledge and
Speaker 5: expertise to you know, basically just try to be the
Speaker 5: best we can be and try to provide the best
Speaker 5: experience that we can for the kids that we have.
Speaker 4: Okay, well anything, congratulations, it's just been great to follow
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, continued success.
Speaker 2: You're you're you get a lot of momentum going right now.
Speaker 3: You have you have Yeah, you have five fingers. You
Speaker 3: need another one for the thumb. I guess I can
Speaker 3: tell you.
Speaker 5: We're just worried about February ninth or whatever day of
Speaker 5: the first practice is.
Speaker 3: You guys need to stop worrying about that stuff, but
Speaker 3: enjoy the moment.
Speaker 2: Enjoy the moment.
Speaker 5: Thanks for sure. I appreciate your time.
Speaker 2: Guys, thank you very much for coming on. Problem.
Speaker 3: Uh all right, have a good Yeah, good to talk
Speaker 3: to you. Talk to you again next time. Just time
Speaker 3: with you again. Good, good time Ridge and a nice,
Speaker 3: nice little career he's got going. Yeah yeah, hey, winning
Speaker 3: one is top right, you're winning fours.
Speaker 2: That's good, quite good.
Speaker 4: Congrats to them at Empire because that's you know, it's
Speaker 4: one of the newer schools here in Busan, and took
Speaker 4: them a while to kind of get things going athletically,
Speaker 4: but you know here they are.
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Speaker 2: If you guys want to call it, that'd be great pick.
Speaker 3: If you want to call in talk about what we
Speaker 3: talked about yesterday and you texted me yesterday, you could
Speaker 3: talk about that.
Speaker 2: It was softball.
Speaker 3: Obviously, everyone has their thoughts right when things could do bad,
Speaker 3: everybody has their thoughts. They come out of the woodwork. Yeah,
Speaker 3: everybody has an opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, you know one thing about it too, is you
Speaker 4: actually see it on TV too. A lot of people
Speaker 4: that didn't really watch maybe that closely up until yeah,
Speaker 4: yes laest weekend. I O, hey, wait a seconk, what's
Speaker 4: going on? Why is she pitching? Why is she taking
Speaker 4: the right games? So I think a lot of people
Speaker 4: were questioning that.
Speaker 2: True.
Speaker 4: But then again too, a lot of the games were
Speaker 4: on television during the season. But you know, just the
Speaker 4: way things wrapped up, Yeah, there's always somebody pointing fingers
Speaker 4: to somebody.
Speaker 2: Oh, do you know how to cook?
Speaker 3: I'm seriously, no, I was gonna say if you did,
Speaker 3: do you know how to cook well? And tell people
Speaker 3: how to cook? No, you know what I'm saying, Just
Speaker 3: because you know how to cook doesn't mean you can cook. Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: these people watch her whatever. And the funny thing about it,
Speaker 3: I was always talking to Troy yesterday and he was
Speaker 3: pretty tough on the team and tough on the coach
Speaker 3: with Kaitlin, and I'm thinking I was I'm probably him
Speaker 3: for basketball and not that I'm tough on the money
Speaker 3: these critical and when people complain and complain and complaining,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking I'm being an alibi guy. And yesterday I
Speaker 3: was being an albi guy. And I'm thinking I don't
Speaker 3: know enough to be an alibi guy. So yeah, I'll
Speaker 3: just let him kind of run with it.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you're we've always been observers and we
Speaker 4: kind of have an opinion on things.
Speaker 2: So with a phone call coming in, yeah, we got
Speaker 2: to call who's this here on the air?
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Speaker 3: did you say to me.
Speaker 15: On the Arizona Tay Well, first, I want to kind
Speaker 15: of interject on the Shannon Woolridge interview, which is great,
Speaker 15: but he's a little bit modern on his travel circuit. Man,
Speaker 15: those dudes work their chos off. He's got girls and
Speaker 15: he's gonna probably be in California Colorado for the Big
Speaker 15: Showcase tournament, and I think they even go to Texas nowadays.
Speaker 15: But that he's the reason that these girls get recruited.
Speaker 15: And a ton of these Tucson girls, like he said,
Speaker 15: we're trying about that with parents, Steve the other day. Yeah,
Speaker 15: they're they're playing out of Phoenix now, which where all
Speaker 15: the high profile teams are. There's only a couple in
Speaker 15: Tucson that are that are worthy of the national circuit,
Speaker 15: which one of them is Shannon's team. But like that
Speaker 15: girl he mentioned from Kek a Verty Claire, she's a sophomore.
Speaker 15: Oh my god, Steve, You've never seen a kid work
Speaker 15: as hard in your life as that girl and her
Speaker 15: parents take her to Phoenix. Uh she's on one of
Speaker 15: the premiere Phoenix teams.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 15: Just she's the only one to beat Shannon this year.
Speaker 15: His record I think was twenty something in one and
Speaker 15: they lost to Tank a Verty in Claire.
Speaker 3: So let me before you go into what we discussed yesterday,
Speaker 3: and like I hope you do. Uh, what is his
Speaker 3: secret sauce? And if he's modest, because he's did sound that,
Speaker 3: what is his secret sauce? You?
Speaker 15: Uh, it's tough. You gotta be tough, kind of one
Speaker 15: of those ones that, uh the like the Pied Pipers
Speaker 15: that the girls follow. Obviously, you have to have the
Speaker 15: longevity and like I said, actually you've gotta be one
Speaker 15: of those teams that plays in the right tournament. I mean,
Speaker 15: there's teams in Tucson that are they're okay, but it's
Speaker 15: like playing, you know, at a Mama's Day game. You're
Speaker 15: not going to be seen unless you go with somebody
Speaker 15: like Shannon or the Phoenix teams or the California teams.
Speaker 15: I was talking Mondo Ketos. He drove Rebecca to California
Speaker 15: every weekend for the Firecrackers every weekend. I mean, can
Speaker 15: you imagine driving from Tucson to California every can go
Speaker 15: weekend to play.
Speaker 4: She just couldn't get good enough games in Arizona or
Speaker 4: at least in Tucson.
Speaker 15: No, you can't. You those teams are our high profile
Speaker 15: and obviously when Mike Kendraan needs a player, he calls
Speaker 15: the Firecrackers and Batbusters and Corona Angels, and there's just
Speaker 15: not any of those teams in Tucson.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, so.
Speaker 15: There's the players, there's players in Tucson, but there's you know,
Speaker 15: few and far between, and you've got to leave the
Speaker 15: city to go and play on those teams. And it's
Speaker 15: kind of sad, but it's it's definitely a true statement.
Speaker 15: In any softball person will tell you that.
Speaker 3: Okay, so now that you've kind of proven that you
Speaker 3: know the game, and I know you do because you
Speaker 3: had you had girls in it. Our discussion yesterday, you
Speaker 3: agreed with.
Speaker 2: Troy is right now.
Speaker 15: I agreed with Troy all the way to point. But
Speaker 15: you know what, guys, both of you guys know it's
Speaker 15: it's tough. We're not at practice. We don't know why
Speaker 15: those other girls don't get a chance. I know for
Speaker 15: a fact that the fan base is fear yes with Conrad,
Speaker 15: they to the point of they hate them, and it's
Speaker 15: because he didn't use some of the pictures they wanted
Speaker 15: or whoever. But we're not at practice, and then you
Speaker 15: don't know if they're not. You know, he might say
Speaker 15: take ten laps and they run nine, you know, and
Speaker 15: then he says, okay, well you don't want it. You
Speaker 15: don't want that mountain time some to that effect. I mean,
Speaker 15: I'm being silly with that, but we just don't know
Speaker 15: He's an analytics guy, that's for sure. He's one of
Speaker 15: those guys that measures spin, raid and all that kind
Speaker 15: of stuff. And and does that fly in the game
Speaker 15: or do you go with your heart? I mean, people
Speaker 15: have wanted Dave Roberts dead for the last what ten
Speaker 15: years because he's an analytics analytics guy and takes the
Speaker 15: lefty out to face the other variety and that and
Speaker 15: people say, you know, hey, the guy four for four
Speaker 15: leave the men. But but that's how Conrad is. And
Speaker 15: and then you know, Caitlin, she has made some heads
Speaker 15: gratchet movements. I mean in the Big Trump Championship. You guys,
Speaker 15: you tell me this is just off the top of
Speaker 15: our heads. She pitched her fourth maybe fifth pitcher when
Speaker 15: she had nets ready to go.
Speaker 2: Who does that?
Speaker 15: Like, you'd be crucified if I was back in Almani
Speaker 15: and I pitched my second pitcher and not my eighth.
Speaker 15: They burned me at the stake. Yeah, fourth or fifth pitcher,
Speaker 15: not her second, not her third, her like her fourth
Speaker 15: or fifth.
Speaker 2: Okay, So so who in the heck does that?
Speaker 15: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So okay, So that's two things.
Speaker 3: Let me also say that De Troy was talking about recruiting,
Speaker 3: and you know the girls out in California. He says,
Speaker 3: I go to go to Texas, get out of California
Speaker 3: as much or not as much as possible. But you
Speaker 3: don't do that. But there are also kids everywhere else.
Speaker 6: You know this he was.
Speaker 15: Boy, he kind of hit it on the head when
Speaker 15: he said, you have to start turning over stones and
Speaker 15: other places. You know. Kennedy I think, comes from Kansas,
Speaker 15: the Texas Tech girl, and Jordi Balls from Nebraska and
Speaker 15: she's in the Supers. She's amazing. We do have a
Speaker 15: picture coming in from Texas this year and she's supposed
Speaker 15: to be you know, she's like the number four recruit
Speaker 15: in the nation. So if she can come in and
Speaker 15: maybe that'll turn Kaitlin towards recruiting in different places. And
Speaker 15: I'm sure they do. And once again, going back to
Speaker 15: that travel ball circuit, it used to be Batbusters, Corona Angels, Firecrackers,
Speaker 15: and that was it. That's who won TGF and ASA
Speaker 15: and Alliance. But nowadays it is there's Texas Glory and
Speaker 15: East Cop Bullets and all those Midwestern teams and they
Speaker 15: never used to have a chance, and now they come
Speaker 15: in and they win those things down.
Speaker 2: Okay, So he's right on that.
Speaker 4: The girl that's coming in is Riley Holder from Texas,
Speaker 4: like one of the top pictures in the country.
Speaker 2: Supposely, big tall girl, five foot eleven.
Speaker 15: He's like one of the tie as he hits too.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, So Vic, let me give you this to
Speaker 3: uh that a that block in basketball, we know it exists.
Speaker 3: It's a real thing in softball. I'm assuming it still exists,
Speaker 3: or does it? And if it does, where does it
Speaker 3: lie in the grand scheme of the levels of other schools,
Speaker 3: Tennessee's and the Oklahomas.
Speaker 2: Where is it?
Speaker 15: It's definitely at the top. And anybody that tells you not.
Speaker 15: And you know what, Steve, you're one pitcher away. Imagine
Speaker 15: if they had gotten Kennedy instead of going to Texas Tech,
Speaker 15: then you're back on top and you're you're back on
Speaker 15: the Holy rail. So you're one pitture away. She needs
Speaker 15: to get one pitcher and you're back on top.
Speaker 2: Well that's the.
Speaker 15: Look at Look at Florida. Florida was on top for
Speaker 15: ten years and they haven't got that picture the last
Speaker 15: few years. And I mean they still go to regionals
Speaker 15: and maybe even Supers, but they're Florida is not what
Speaker 15: they were because that pitching coach left and went to Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: So their recruiting call for next.
Speaker 15: You're just you're one pitcher away. That's that's what you are.
Speaker 15: And then you're back on top.
Speaker 4: They've got an infielder coming in from San Diego they have.
Speaker 15: And he he hit that Hawaiian girl also hit bombs.
Speaker 4: And then hold her from Texas and Molly Daily from
Speaker 4: Tucson here.
Speaker 15: So they they she's recruited. Wow, she has sniffing there. Uh,
Speaker 15: she got to catcher from Washington and the portal Reagan
Speaker 15: Shockey is just he's amazing. If you guys haven't seen her,
Speaker 15: she's worth the price of admission to go to a game.
Speaker 15: Our center fielder, he's just amazing. I mean, she should
Speaker 15: run track at you.
Speaker 2: They also she's quick. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, and what you're saying is the case for every
Speaker 3: team one pitture away.
Speaker 15: And and it's right, and I mean that's there's no
Speaker 15: truer statement. They'll see, you're one pitcher away. You you
Speaker 15: can hit ten bombs of game. And if you don't
Speaker 15: have that picture, you're gonna lose. What happened there actually right.
Speaker 4: And the thing too is, you know, okay, so they
Speaker 4: get this the girl here from Texas and everybody sees that.
Speaker 4: Other pictures see that, and they don't want to come here, right,
Speaker 4: They just don't want to compete against her.
Speaker 2: Is that sometimes what happens.
Speaker 15: That that kind of you know, that's kind of a
Speaker 15: true statement too. But then huck the Oklahoma hoards four
Speaker 15: of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well guess what, Nil, I'm assuming that's there's another.
Speaker 15: Issue another two statement.
Speaker 3: Too, because that's hit that point and Oklahoma's wink wink
Speaker 3: may have been playing paying them for a while at
Speaker 3: least that I that's what I do.
Speaker 4: You know, even in the heyday, Mike Kendrea would he
Speaker 4: would have you know, the a's like a you know,
Speaker 4: Jennin to make Nancy Effens. But there was always a
Speaker 4: number two picture who was pretty darn good too.
Speaker 15: So yeah, but in the old days day they they
Speaker 15: went with one. Nowadays you do use two and three.
Speaker 15: In the old days, Jenny Finch carried the bulk of
Speaker 15: the load. Karen Mowatt pitched every Alisha Hallowell pitched every
Speaker 15: single inning. Colannie Ricketts at Oklahoma pitched every single inning.
Speaker 15: Now they do use a bullpen, and that's kind of
Speaker 15: changed in the last five years. So there is you know, uh,
Speaker 15: a necessity to get one or two pictures nowadays.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they have a few. One just left right
Speaker 3: and still was left.
Speaker 15: The two just left man and left also.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's that's what we were talking about that earlier.
Speaker 3: We didn't know if that was official. So well, here
Speaker 3: you go. So now people are gonna leave them have
Speaker 3: to find a couple more.
Speaker 15: Yeah, so let's see what happened. And like Troy was
Speaker 15: right and he was talking about Swaying the kid from
Speaker 15: from Iowa State. I mean, you looked at her when
Speaker 15: I first signed her, and it's funny that Troy said it.
Speaker 15: I said, wow, she has a four point something e
Speaker 15: r A like why are why are you looking at her?
Speaker 15: And she got time didn't Pat? Oh terrible? Can I say,
Speaker 15: I'm sure he's not listening.
Speaker 3: Well, you're just being honest, Okay, all right, Vick, Yeah,
Speaker 3: thanks a bunch as usual, giving your insight.
Speaker 15: No no worries, Steve, you guys have a great day,
Speaker 15: great show that. I love that interview with Shannon.
Speaker 2: It was awesome, great, Thank you, thanks for giving us
Speaker 2: that insight.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, So when you asked Shannon about that,
Speaker 3: you know stuff, you could tell that even in his voice,
Speaker 3: he was really downplaying the success of him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well he didn't want to brag. Yeah yeah, but still,
Speaker 3: I mean four, come on, that doesn't happen. Getting one's tough,
Speaker 3: you know, getting for is pretty good. Yeah, and just
Speaker 3: you know that because he he was just but not
Speaker 3: a monotone, but he was you know, okay, this is
Speaker 3: what we got.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very proud.
Speaker 4: It's interesting just to see them having success at that
Speaker 4: level and the high school level maybe you know, not
Speaker 4: the top of the high schools, and having all this
Speaker 4: success just year after year.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 4: And then they're generating, you know, get some their education,
Speaker 4: continuing somewhere else and playing somewhere else.
Speaker 3: So that's just a great story, right, yeah, no question.
Speaker 3: And of course, like you talked about southern areasone, uh,
Speaker 3: it's pretty.
Speaker 2: Good every year.
Speaker 4: I mean for years there was the CDOs and the
Speaker 4: foothills and those you know, the Soe points and the
Speaker 4: big schools like that that were generating the interest slowing wells,
Speaker 4: I should say, you know, my kids went there and
Speaker 4: you know, a bunch of their friends were coaching.
Speaker 3: Off they went to play D one and a lot
Speaker 3: of it has to do the coaching. They're getting good coaching.
Speaker 3: You know Fouler up at CEO and I can't remember
Speaker 3: her name at the South Point, very good.
Speaker 2: They won a number of titles. I think this was appy.
Speaker 2: Sure they hadn't won in a while.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll have another coach like that in baseball with Prebble.
Speaker 2: Who's who's had a fantastic year?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Eight zero round of flag Staff last night, So we'll
Speaker 3: get to that as well. We have about I don't
Speaker 3: know about a minute or so before we take a
Speaker 3: break here, come back. I'm not going to give any
Speaker 3: breaking news, but we do have some things to talk
Speaker 3: about that. We have stuff that we haven't talked about
Speaker 3: so far with breaking news, right, okay, anything else.
Speaker 4: Dave, let's see just some of you have a guy,
Speaker 4: you have a baseball player is named the Big twelve
Speaker 4: All Conference team.
Speaker 2: Oh seven players?
Speaker 5: Yea?
Speaker 3: So they start soon? When did they started a Thursday game?
Speaker 2: You guys talk about how they're going to move the
Speaker 2: Big twelve tournament to Sphoenix. Yeah, yeah, price Price, that's
Speaker 2: gonna be kind of fun.
Speaker 4: It was great when the big when the PAC twelve
Speaker 4: was at Scott Still Stadium with a couple of games,
Speaker 4: did it was good.
Speaker 2: Surprise is kind of way out there. It's good to
Speaker 2: be retired to day.
Speaker 4: No, this was when I was still you know, employed somewhere.
Speaker 4: But no, I think it'll be fun to have right
Speaker 4: in the middle of May. I don't know how the
Speaker 4: weather is going to be. It could be. It's nice.
Speaker 2: Way it's nice, yeah, right, and a hundred is not
Speaker 2: that bad.
Speaker 4: Must be one hundred this weekend, So we'll see how
Speaker 4: that plays out next year.
Speaker 3: One hundreds are comfortable, a little bit comfortable here. It's
Speaker 3: a dry heat, as we'll tell everybody.
Speaker 2: Right, because Arlington is not. It's a little sticky.
Speaker 8: Oh, I know.
Speaker 4: Well, we'll tell all those people you know, coming from
Speaker 4: like Kansas State or the Midwest, it's.
Speaker 3: Okay, don't bring some sunscreen and you'll don't.
Speaker 4: Worry about those noontime games. It'll be beautiful out there
Speaker 4: in surprise.
Speaker 2: Right, So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3: So we'll come back, Dave and I will share some
Speaker 3: breaking news from a lot of the variety of areas
Speaker 3: that we can talk about, and then we get our
Speaker 3: coach Coach Purple here about four seventeen.
Speaker 2: Thanks