Speaker 1: Get ready for.
Speaker 2: July sixteenth, twenty twenty five, allegedly according to that thing
Speaker 2: we call a calendar. And yeah, I'm still live here
Speaker 2: on Ocelli dot com, but you're probably catching the podcast.
Speaker 2: So here we go. This is the separated piece why
Speaker 2: I had to separate the JFK revelations from something else
Speaker 2: that's in the news. You know, I hate doing this,
Speaker 2: Believe it or not. I hate doing this, but I'm
Speaker 2: happy with who I got to do it with. Sounds
Speaker 2: like my teenage years. Anyways, Pierce Redmond is with me,
Speaker 2: Porkins himself. Porkin's Policy Radio course has been heard on
Speaker 2: various networks. Is a podcast long standing, although we haven't
Speaker 2: heard a lot from Pierce Redmond lately, but considering the
Speaker 2: headlines as of late, I think it's about time we
Speaker 2: get into it. And why not, because after all, you know,
Speaker 2: our good friend Lord aj Obdere has a lot to
Speaker 2: say lately, doesn't he.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: I woke up this morning and turned my phone on
Speaker 4: and there were one hundreds of text messages saying, oh
Speaker 4: my god, the DJ just put out a letter I
Speaker 4: know you've all seen now saying there is no Epstein
Speaker 4: client list, There never was any blackmail operation. Epstein killed
Speaker 4: himself and the investigations closed. So everybody wants to know
Speaker 4: what I think. Well, I know what's going on, and
Speaker 4: so I'll tell you. Trump had two ways to go
Speaker 4: with all of this. He could prosecute all of these
Speaker 4: incredibly prominent people household names, or they could use the
Speaker 4: information to blackmail the deep state.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let me get this straight. The information that
Speaker 2: has been in the hands of the Trump administration, the
Speaker 2: Biden administration, and then back in the Trump administration's hands
Speaker 2: is all there to blackmail the deep state. I find
Speaker 2: that interesting, But I also find an interesting sum of
Speaker 2: the public statements from you know, Orange Jesus passed all
Speaker 2: this intrigue over the Epstein file.
Speaker 5: But I do want to ask you to clarify something
Speaker 5: you said this morning.
Speaker 3: You said this was all a hoax. Has your attorney
Speaker 3: Jendate told you this was a hoax? What evidence out
Speaker 3: the journey?
Speaker 6: Jeneral, No, I know it's a hoax. It's started by Democrats.
Speaker 6: It's been run by the Democrats for four years. You
Speaker 6: had Christopher Ray and these characters and called me before him.
Speaker 2: Wait, Christopher Ray, his FBI director that Biden kept was
Speaker 2: running this for four years, didn't use it against Trump,
Speaker 2: but also didn't spread the word about it. And now
Speaker 2: it's a big hoax that he doesn't want to release either.
Speaker 2: And wait a minute, let's let us hear a little
Speaker 2: more from arts. Jesus, maybe I'm just misunderstanding something.
Speaker 3: And it's a bad group. It started.
Speaker 6: Actually, look at the Steele dossier that turned out to
Speaker 6: be a total hoax, the fifty one agent.
Speaker 2: They're really sick people. It's really bad. I've got to
Speaker 2: tell you it's a hoax, and the Steele dossier, and
Speaker 2: I don't be on hookers, and I don't have them
Speaker 2: pe in hotel rooms on Obama's bed, and I don't
Speaker 2: know what's wrong with these people. The Democrats paid for it.
Speaker 2: The Democrats run everything that is sick and evil and twisted, and.
Speaker 6: Don see intelligence so called intelligence agents.
Speaker 3: I was a hoax. It's all been a big hoax.
Speaker 6: It's perpetrated by the Democrats, and some stupid Republicans and foolish.
Speaker 3: Republicans fall into.
Speaker 6: The net, and so they try and do the Democrats work.
Speaker 6: I'd rather talk about the success we have with the economy,
Speaker 6: the best we've ever had, and all of the things
Speaker 6: we've done, including in the Middle East.
Speaker 3: I mean, you see it. Instead they want to talk
Speaker 3: about the Epstein hoax, and.
Speaker 2: Sure to the people that were bombed in Syria today
Speaker 2: might disagree. And also the people that are getting shot
Speaker 2: trying to get food in Palestine might disagree. Oh oh oh,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. No, most recently I think they were killed
Speaker 2: getting water. My mistake. But either way, you know people
Speaker 2: that are over there trying to get aid or being
Speaker 2: gunned down by the IDF troops. Everything's under control in
Speaker 2: the Middle East, right, situation normal, all trumped up? Anyways,
Speaker 2: it is what it is, Pierce Redmond. It almost sounds
Speaker 2: like I'm ready to ambush you with this, but I'm not. Uh,
Speaker 2: let's dial this back for a second because I'm awfully confused. Okay,
Speaker 2: and I've got one big question for you, sure fire,
Speaker 2: fire away, What in the hell is going on now?
Speaker 2: This is a democratic hoax that is being perpetrated by them.
Speaker 2: And they had four years to not scrub those files,
Speaker 2: by the way, not deal with those hard drives. They
Speaker 2: captured all that digital data, which they say is nothing
Speaker 2: but kittie porn, so can't see any of that Okay,
Speaker 2: nothing is there. I get it. There is no client list.
Speaker 2: Well maybe there isn't something labeled client list, But you
Speaker 2: mean to tell me there isn't metadata and the digital
Speaker 2: stuff that somebody doesn't know how to scrape together and
Speaker 2: form a client list out of no, because I applied
Speaker 2: for a job with the NSA as a signals analyst,
Speaker 2: you know, in the early two thousands. That's a true story.
Speaker 2: Didn't get the job, but you know I understood that
Speaker 2: I'd be able to do that kind of stuff twenty
Speaker 2: five years ago. So tell you where you can stick
Speaker 2: that stupid idea that there's no client list. But but
Speaker 2: then again, there are people running around saying Trump's on
Speaker 2: the list. That's why Biden's on the list, That's why
Speaker 2: everybody's on the list. I throw it to you, my friend,
Speaker 2: because you've studied this for a long time. Virginia Goufrey
Speaker 2: is gone. I saw on the internet, by the way,
Speaker 2: and I don't know what to do with this, But
Speaker 2: did you see the dead Man switch recording?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I did, and I I mean the first comment
Speaker 5: of that was reply to that was someone asking so
Speaker 5: take this with a grain of salt, but groc or whatever.
Speaker 5: The Elon's Ai whether that was Ai, and the response was,
Speaker 5: of course it was Ai.
Speaker 2: Well, but that's coming from Groc, who also went on
Speaker 2: a recent Nazi tear along with Elmo apparently who got
Speaker 2: hacked this week by the way, just saying Elmo wants
Speaker 2: to eliminate and exterminate the Jews, according to the hacked account,
Speaker 2: and also release the file and release the Epstein files.
Speaker 2: I'm throwing it in there for non context.
Speaker 3: Why not.
Speaker 2: Uh, this is messed up, man. This whole thing is
Speaker 2: nothing but greasy and getting greasier. And meanwhile, wheren't we
Speaker 2: promised this stuff. Didn't all the you know, MAGA influencers
Speaker 2: get the files. They were gonna We're gonna release it
Speaker 2: here at comes here, it comes never mind nothing this year?
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean he even Trump himself dance around the topic
Speaker 5: but still campaigned on it periodically. Uh, and then of
Speaker 5: course sort of walked back his comments on Fox News about, uh,
Speaker 5: you know he would release JFK MLK RFK nine to eleven.
Speaker 5: I would love to see that happen. Uh, And uh
Speaker 5: and then Epstein and well, yeah, I would, Well, I
Speaker 5: guess I would. I don't know, you know, there's a
Speaker 5: lot of a lot of phony stuff. But you know
Speaker 5: this thing so in.
Speaker 2: There, you know, there's a lot of phony, there's a lot.
Speaker 5: So maybe he was just then kind of uh, you know,
Speaker 5: sort of uh seeding the the the hoax, uh that
Speaker 5: this is to the true believers out there, who could
Speaker 5: you know, read between the lines and understand his three
Speaker 5: D chests. But yes, it is. I mean, I'll I'll
Speaker 5: be quite frank, I'm loving this. I think it's great.
Speaker 5: I think it's it's very cathartic to see all of
Speaker 5: these Maga influence ers losing their minds over this and
Speaker 5: trying to come up with the the kind of I
Speaker 5: mean it is. I was, I was talking about this
Speaker 5: earlier with Ammy. It's I've never I don't think we've
Speaker 5: ever really seen this in history. Maybe things like uh
Speaker 5: and I'm not equating these, but like in Nazi Germany
Speaker 5: or in Cambodia under pol Pot, you know, or towards
Speaker 5: the end of that, where you have this cult of
Speaker 5: personality and this cult like society that is then in
Speaker 5: real time trying to understand how their guru could could
Speaker 5: be lying to them like this on this level.
Speaker 2: And you see, but they've done the contortions before where
Speaker 2: it's like, no, that really means this. Actually it's a strategy.
Speaker 5: You know, well, I think this is this is the
Speaker 5: this is apparently the red line that you know, not
Speaker 5: murdering children in Gaza, not separating children and their parents
Speaker 5: and sending them to Elston's salvatory in prisons, not neglecting
Speaker 5: people and in flood areas and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Rosy O'donalds scene and taking away rosy O'donnald's citizenship and
Speaker 2: anybody else.
Speaker 5: None of that matters out of media.
Speaker 2: Companies holding them ransom so that you can collect another
Speaker 2: fifteen million for your presidential library, so that you'll allow
Speaker 2: the sale of Paramount to go through, because that was
Speaker 2: being held up and it was a multi billion dollar deal,
Speaker 2: and he sued for billions of dollars to CBS and
Speaker 2: settled for what sixty million, which is pocket change to them.
Speaker 2: But hey paid no attention to any of those contortions.
Speaker 2: Peers that one, and I'll.
Speaker 5: Say, I mean it is. It is a big deal.
Speaker 5: I think as someone who was very much immeshed in
Speaker 5: it and I would say obsessed with it, and then
Speaker 5: having taken kind of a step back from it. I
Speaker 5: don't think it rises to the level that many of
Speaker 5: these like MAGA people believe it to be. I you know,
Speaker 5: I don't think this is the greatest, you know, worst
Speaker 5: crime ever committed on the face of the earth. Nothing
Speaker 5: will ever be as terrible, you know, before or after this,
Speaker 5: But it is is. I mean, it is a serious scandal,
Speaker 5: and the implications are vast. His reluctance to release this,
Speaker 5: I mean, only points to him being named all over
Speaker 5: the place. And I think the real the the aspect
Speaker 5: of this that is perhaps even more threatening, and I
Speaker 5: think is probably as big or if not a bigger
Speaker 5: reason for Trump and these and others to not want
Speaker 5: to release this is and God help me, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: quote or paraphrase Megan Kelly. I think that there are
Speaker 5: so many other people involved, and and you know, she
Speaker 5: was at some idiotic MAGA talking points or whatever the
Speaker 5: hell it's called conference, and she was she posited, and
Speaker 5: I think she probably is correct. Are there Republican donors
Speaker 5: on here? Are their donors to Trump? Are there? Just
Speaker 5: you know again I I and I think we should
Speaker 5: discuss the Bannon side of this, because that is very interesting.
Speaker 5: But you know, Steve Bannon is saying, this is about institutions.
Speaker 5: This is there's as much larger, and I think that
Speaker 5: it is something where there are so many people that
Speaker 5: to many of the Maga cult members would seem complete opposites,
Speaker 5: you know, Democrats, Republicans, whatever, but they are all in
Speaker 5: the same club even and Trump is a member of
Speaker 5: this club as well, and he knows.
Speaker 3: Who is.
Speaker 5: Protecting him, he knows who is funding him and whatnot.
Speaker 5: And I think that's the probably the deeper reason, beyond
Speaker 5: the fact that he is obviously named god knows how
Speaker 5: many times, but it's that all of his friends are named,
Speaker 5: and all of his enemies are named, but that they're
Speaker 5: not really quite his enemies, and he knows that he
Speaker 5: has to kind of protect them as well. But I
Speaker 5: think it's amazing and I think it's really fantastic question.
Speaker 2: The big question ultimately is do these psychological legos fit
Speaker 2: with to stop the Steel crowd? Does this fit with
Speaker 2: the Rogers Stone mentality? Does this fit with the Steve
Speaker 2: Bannon I'm here to destroy the deep state mentality? No
Speaker 2: it doesn't. This is protect the system because there is
Speaker 2: some ugly stuff in it, and we're kidding, But here
Speaker 2: we go. This is the guy. You know, he's a merv.
Speaker 2: He's gonna go rub and everybody did. All these shield
Speaker 2: indictments round up at the pedophiles and the Obamas are
Speaker 2: getting divorced dirt and this doesn't fit. This does not
Speaker 2: fit pier No.
Speaker 5: I think that he made a I think he is
Speaker 5: driven by his base, not any kind of public opinion.
Speaker 5: I mean, he is shameless in that he doesn't care
Speaker 5: what people think of him, or certainly people that dislike him.
Speaker 5: He does care about his base. And so he played
Speaker 5: with the idea of releasing these things, among other things,
Speaker 5: and he then surrounded himself completely. At this point, there's
Speaker 5: no one within his administration that is not a complete
Speaker 5: one die in the wold lackey to him. Anyone that
Speaker 5: had half a brain that worked for him in the
Speaker 5: previous administration was either fired by him, or disobey orators,
Speaker 5: or quit because they couldn't stand being complicit in this stuff.
Speaker 5: He's now surrounded himself with I mean complete idiots, I
Speaker 5: mean clowns. Yet they were all these were the these
Speaker 5: were this was his base. Paatel Bongino, Pambondi at jd Vance,
Speaker 5: pretty much everyone around him and I think he completely
Speaker 5: misread the situation. And you know, I I suspect that
Speaker 5: some of them really did believe they were going to
Speaker 5: do this. They were that naive and deluded that someone
Speaker 5: like the interview with Patel and Bongino and at the
Speaker 5: firing range Cash Patel, who it just seems like he
Speaker 5: would sell his own mother for a buck. He seems
Speaker 5: to be completely content to be like, yeah, whatever, I
Speaker 5: don't care. Yeah, I mean, I did rant about all
Speaker 5: this before, but you know, Daddy said, we don't have
Speaker 5: to worry about it anymore. I'm not going to worry
Speaker 5: about it. Bongino looks like he saw the footage of them,
Speaker 5: you know, coming in and executing Epstein and Trump partying
Speaker 5: with him and kids and and but yet even he
Speaker 5: is beholden to this person, and I think he's my
Speaker 5: sense was looking at it as this is someone who
Speaker 5: is a you know, a high ranking member within the cult,
Speaker 5: and they are trying to reconcile with the truth of this,
Speaker 5: but that it can't really be true because Trump is
Speaker 5: the guru. He cannot be wrong.
Speaker 2: He can't. Well, he's the problem, all right, Hang on
Speaker 2: a second, because I need to know something personally, did
Speaker 2: you get exposed to Bongino when he started his radio career,
Speaker 2: I mean before he got on the regular terrestrial stations
Speaker 2: and they tried to sell him as an alt media guy.
Speaker 5: Vaguely through like Twitter and things like that, and I
Speaker 5: mean I would watch like clips of his But.
Speaker 2: Okay, so your exposure was at a distance. You were
Speaker 2: never in on any of the discussions or how he
Speaker 2: was going to come in and be this firebrand who
Speaker 2: was a guy who had seen things because he had
Speaker 2: been you know, elsewhere, secret service and all that. So
Speaker 2: you weren't in on that stuff, right, No, Okay, I
Speaker 2: had a little more of a right wing familiarity back then. Okay,
Speaker 2: you know this, and it's not it wasn't my fault.
Speaker 2: It just happened to be what colced around me. So
Speaker 2: I was exposed to Bongino. This guy is you know,
Speaker 2: ye said, he's still a clown. But the thing is
Speaker 2: he believes some of that. It's like, I gotta go
Speaker 2: back to it once again. The conversation I had in
Speaker 2: North Carolina about twelve years ago, what you mean rest
Speaker 2: and ain't real? You know, I really felt that from him,
Speaker 2: like he thought, you know, Michelle Obama as a man
Speaker 2: is a real thing.
Speaker 5: No, No, I know, I totally believe. I think he
Speaker 5: thought he was going to come in and he was
Speaker 5: going to be knocking down doors and busting you know,
Speaker 5: Biden and all these other people for being part of
Speaker 5: elite pedophile rings.
Speaker 2: Don't forget the biggest promise, the biggest promise of the
Speaker 2: first Trump administration, right when he was campaigning, was and
Speaker 2: this is why I say, this is just all going
Speaker 2: to contort and turn, and the world's going to keep spinning.
Speaker 2: And I don't know what some of the true believers
Speaker 2: are going to do, but the majority of them are
Speaker 2: going to follow just as much as they did. Would
Speaker 2: lock her up, you know, that was the whole thing.
Speaker 2: That was his big chant when he got selected the
Speaker 2: first time, and he was going to lock up Hillary
Speaker 2: Clinton no matter what. He gets in there, and he goes, ah,
Speaker 2: they're not so bad. Oh yeah, and everybody would okay.
Speaker 5: Well again, so apparently you know, Obama and Hillary uh
Speaker 5: and and Comy made a fake dossier of Epstein documents,
Speaker 5: didn't use them, then didn't use them when Trump was elected.
Speaker 2: And didn't use it against thee Costo was in his
Speaker 2: cabinet who had actually been part of the sweetheart deal
Speaker 2: in Florida. Excuse me, I gotta wait.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, didn't use them then, didn't use
Speaker 8: them when he was running against Biden the second time,
Speaker 8: and didn't use them now, and we're instead, I guess,
Speaker 8: waiting for him to release them himself.
Speaker 5: I mean, the really, the really wild thing. And that's
Speaker 5: why I say this is.
Speaker 2: Like, that's why it's so funny that AJ is like
Speaker 2: mutually a short destruction and I'm like, no, no.
Speaker 5: No, I've seen these other people, other right wing commentators,
Speaker 5: you know, talking about like, well, of course he can't
Speaker 5: do that, you know. It's it's actually he would destroy
Speaker 5: the government, you know, and these are the same people.
Speaker 5: So it's like, so you're actually you're okay with letting
Speaker 5: the elite, you know, pedophiles staying around, because otherwise everything
Speaker 5: would just collapse. It would be chaos. I mean, these
Speaker 5: were the same people that were shouting as loud as
Speaker 5: possible to arrest all of them. But the thing that
Speaker 5: I find most fascinating is now, I mean his line
Speaker 5: is that it's not even real, none of this happened,
Speaker 5: I guess. I mean, you know, he's like, yeah, he
Speaker 5: was a creepy guy and he did bad stuff. But
Speaker 5: I mean everything that you think, you know, these these
Speaker 5: client lists and all this other it's just a hoax.
Speaker 5: It's not none of this is real. I mean, Bondi
Speaker 5: can release something if there's credible, you know, and and
Speaker 5: and and that's and the other thing too is the
Speaker 5: obviously Pam Bondi is. He's not gonna get rid of
Speaker 5: her like he needs her. She she's the only one
Speaker 5: that's kind of keeping the floodgates from fully opening. So
Speaker 5: and this idea that Bondi is going rogue within the
Speaker 5: administration and no, I mean, this is all this is
Speaker 5: all coming from him. He I think he really thought
Speaker 5: that he because maybe because he is surrounded by such
Speaker 5: sucophants and because he he will change his opinion on
Speaker 5: something minute to minute, that he could just sort of
Speaker 5: snap his fingers and say, we're not really going to
Speaker 5: do this anymore. I just want to move on. I
Speaker 5: want to talk about the big, beautiful bill and whatever.
Speaker 5: And he really misread how ardent his supporters are when
Speaker 5: it comes to this particular topic. And I think there's
Speaker 5: just such it. There's such poetic justice too.
Speaker 2: But isn't this the first time he's literally called his
Speaker 2: you know, ardent supporters pretty much stupid for even well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, but and I mean this is the I
Speaker 5: think that this is something that I'm sure you and
Speaker 5: I a many other people talked about the first time.
Speaker 5: He'll he'll throw those people under the bus too. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean, and that's fine. And now I mean he's
Speaker 5: saying they're all idiots. All the Republicans are stupid, all
Speaker 5: of those you know, all the influencers are stupid. Uh,
Speaker 5: they're being conned by the Democrats, who I mean again,
Speaker 5: it's like the Democrats are the most evil. It's that's
Speaker 5: the other one too. It's everyone of is sort of
Speaker 5: against him and better at this than him. Seemingly, the
Speaker 5: Democrats are able to create these you know, elaborate hoaxes
Speaker 5: and whatnot, and everybody is against him even when he's
Speaker 5: in power. I mean, this isn't he's so But weren't
Speaker 5: we supposed to defeat the deep state with him around?
Speaker 5: And yet it seems like they're even more powerful than ever.
Speaker 5: And I the it's not I tend to think that
Speaker 5: it's not gonna go away, partly because even he can't
Speaker 5: stop running his mouth. You know, even in that that
Speaker 5: the the clips of him today with the Crown Prince
Speaker 5: of Bahrain, he keeps mentioning it, you know, even after
Speaker 5: other people. I mean he could he also, he could
Speaker 5: take these questions and be like, I don't want to
Speaker 5: talk about this, or you know, we're done with this
Speaker 5: or whatever. I mean, Yet he continues to answer questions
Speaker 5: on it. And he doesn't once he starts going, he
Speaker 5: doesn't know how like no one is. I mean, it
Speaker 5: was just obvious, but no one is practicing like mister president.
Speaker 5: This is the line when the reporter asks about it.
Speaker 5: This is what we're going to say, and then we're
Speaker 5: going to move on.
Speaker 2: Right now, I have a you know, in real time
Speaker 2: news item to share with you, and I don't know
Speaker 2: if you're aware of this, but apparently the prosecutor in
Speaker 2: the Diddy and Epstein cases has been fired by Justice
Speaker 2: Maureen Komi was Yes, I saw the job. Now that
Speaker 2: is something, because who is more comy.
Speaker 5: I mean, and I'm sure that's how they're gonna spin
Speaker 5: it that this is you know, we're getting rid of her,
Speaker 5: because this was all a hoax from the beginnings.
Speaker 2: Yeah. See there's the spin. But man, there is something
Speaker 2: happening here for once. Okay, it's not just a lot
Speaker 2: of smoke, mirrors and more smoke. Something is going on, Pierce.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but.
Speaker 5: Oh and here's another thing I'll say to or kind
Speaker 5: of piggybacking on what you're saying there. I think something
Speaker 5: is going on because people now, I think, are seeing
Speaker 5: that there is a possible opening, there is a way
Speaker 5: to go after him successfully, and it is through Epstein.
Speaker 5: I've seen more people on super mainstream like CNN openly
Speaker 5: talking about out Trump and Epstein's friendship back to the eighties.
Speaker 5: There is a one of the this guy Jack O'Donnell,
Speaker 5: who was a former casino casino executive at his his
Speaker 5: Atlantic City casino. Who is he's talking with what's Aaron
Speaker 5: Burnett very openly that Yeah, Epstein would come by all
Speaker 5: the time. They would hang out. They even got in trouble.
Speaker 5: He he he says they got in trouble once with
Speaker 5: casino inspectors who were there because they were walking around
Speaker 5: the casino floor with people that were not necessarily underage,
Speaker 5: like children. They were they were too young to be
Speaker 5: on the casino floor, so they were under the age
Speaker 5: of twenty one or something like that, and you know,
Speaker 5: and he had to go up and be like, you know,
Speaker 5: you can't do this. And now, of course I'm sure
Speaker 5: there's you know, maga people and whatnot. They're not going
Speaker 5: to believe this is as all again, it's all a
Speaker 5: hoax and whatever. But people are, you know, coming out
Speaker 5: and talking more openly about this. I mean, I don't
Speaker 5: necessarily I think he's kind of a scummy individual. But
Speaker 5: Michael Wolf, the journalist wrote Fire and Fury. He's been
Speaker 5: making the rounds to every news news outlet that will
Speaker 5: have him talking about not only Trump and Epstein, but
Speaker 5: Bannon and Epstein.
Speaker 2: Now, when I was just barely twenty one, right, I
Speaker 2: had friends who were under twenty one and went to
Speaker 2: Atlantic City several times, and I got to tell you
Speaker 2: that you take five steps onto a casino floor, the
Speaker 2: casino area of the hotel. You can be in other
Speaker 2: parts of the hotel, but if you go onto the
Speaker 2: casino floor five steps, somebody will come up to you
Speaker 2: and card everybody.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, absolutely, I'm.
Speaker 2: Just saying that is part of the reality. But go ahead.
Speaker 2: I just I like when reality falls in line with
Speaker 2: the assertions. But go ahead, Uh yeah, no, but I.
Speaker 5: Mean wolf talking about Bannon and Epstein, which I and
Speaker 5: and even now the right wing media they're beginning to
Speaker 5: remember suddenly through this haze of kind of maga excitement,
Speaker 5: and you know, I don't know, Awe, that Bannon made
Speaker 5: a documentary with Epstein. Yeah, you know, did he was?
Speaker 5: I mean, he's eighteen hours of footage that that he
Speaker 5: you know, the New York Post used to report every
Speaker 5: few weeks about him going in and out of his house.
Speaker 5: There's recordings of them. Michael Wolfe has talked about this,
Speaker 5: and this all stems from when Trump kicked Bannon out,
Speaker 5: you know, from the tent, and what did Bannon do
Speaker 5: immediately after that? He went and he I think this
Speaker 5: was in rough, for instance, something that Vanka Trump had said,
Speaker 5: and he said, well, you know you should really you know,
Speaker 5: don't don't throw whatever, you know, stones and glasshouses because
Speaker 5: you know your father and Epstein, that's all, you know,
Speaker 5: and then he just sort of leaves it there. So
Speaker 5: and now Bannon has kind of jumped onto this this
Speaker 5: bandwagon again and very much like Trump, and I find
Speaker 5: that's what's so fascinating is all of these individuals will
Speaker 5: with deep connections Musk as well to this, to this
Speaker 5: infamous nefarious figure will also at the same time cash
Speaker 5: in on it, and we'll use it in order to
Speaker 5: you know, I probably financially gain money, but to gain
Speaker 5: power and whatnot. And Bannon is talking about all sorts
Speaker 5: of crazy things right now related to this, and Trump
Speaker 5: should hire a special prosecutor. And I think he's trying
Speaker 5: to sort of send him advice. But I mean, what
Speaker 5: was in this documentary? Why was he there? According to
Speaker 5: Michael Wolfe, Bannon and Epstein bonded over the fact that
Speaker 5: Trump had betrayed both of them. So now and that
Speaker 5: documentary goes nowhere, right, and then suddenly Trump is back
Speaker 5: in office. Bannon loves him, can't stop talking about him.
Speaker 5: He's in to defeat the deep state and all this stuff.
Speaker 5: I mean, God only knows what was said in this documentary.
Speaker 5: And again and people are buying Steve Bannon's nonsense. And
Speaker 5: if you go back even further than that, Bannon is
Speaker 5: you know, he's got relationships with some other very people
Speaker 5: in the crypto environment that were also hanging out on
Speaker 5: Epstein's island. I mean, you know, google it. And again,
Speaker 5: Musk also cashing in on this skating very close to
Speaker 5: the fact that there's all these reports about Musk's brother
Speaker 5: Kimball being hooked up by Epstein. Is his you know
Speaker 5: his girlfriend? Uh, there's photos of of Maxwell and Elon Musk.
Speaker 5: Elon Musk has gone to Epstein's house at least once.
Speaker 5: He claims this was just you know, his his then wife.
Speaker 5: I think Telula Riley dragged him there.
Speaker 3: He hated it.
Speaker 5: And again, just like Trump, oh he was a creep.
Speaker 5: He was a creep, but yeah, we all knew it,
Speaker 5: but you went, and he went well after he had
Speaker 5: been convicted of soliciting underage prostitution and all this other
Speaker 5: subsequent investigations into him, Yet he goes. Jeffrey Epstein bragged
Speaker 5: people that he was advising Tesla, he was getting private
Speaker 5: tours of SpaceX through Kimball. So yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 5: just I mean, it's not that I don't know that
Speaker 5: what we can make of that, but it's just it
Speaker 5: is also really fascinating the number of people that, again,
Speaker 5: are all willing to escape very close to this guy,
Speaker 5: to almost kind of touch the third rail. And I
Speaker 5: think that Trump is this excellent example of someone who
Speaker 5: did it and touched it accidentally and you can't kind
Speaker 5: of undo that at this point.
Speaker 2: Well, that's why I want to bring you back to
Speaker 2: a couple of events that have occurred in the time
Speaker 2: that you and I weren't talking. We've already covered Goofrei's
Speaker 2: suicide basically, and we'll leave it there. But I have
Speaker 2: another question. When you saw that, you know, they were
Speaker 2: doing this whole thing of they're going to release the
Speaker 2: files and all this kind of stuff, and then you know,
Speaker 2: nothing happens. I know you and I weren't surprised. There
Speaker 2: were other people that were, you know, at it for
Speaker 2: weeks afterwards and everything. You know, did you have any
Speaker 2: thoughts all of a sudden it's like, oh, and also,
Speaker 2: we do now have a video years later of you know,
Speaker 2: around the cell, and maybe we don't have video in
Speaker 2: the cell, but et cetera.
Speaker 5: Maybe that video was edited on Adobe, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you know, and and all that stuff with
Speaker 2: me and him that was that's photoshopped. You know, here
Speaker 2: we go. We have now entered the time when trust nothing,
Speaker 2: nothing is real. Everything's a crisis actor that's not really me.
Speaker 2: And indeed, we live in an environment where it's possible.
Speaker 2: I mean, there was that whole you know, was it
Speaker 2: Elon Musk licking Trump's feet on a AI developed Well,
Speaker 2: that was probably like two years ago now, and even
Speaker 2: Elon Musk turns around and goes, hey, don't forget you're
Speaker 2: on the Epstein list, and then he walks it back
Speaker 2: a week later. I'm sorry, I went a little too far.
Speaker 5: Well, And I think that's indicative of the fact that
Speaker 5: someone had to be like, you know, Elon, if you
Speaker 5: google your name and his, if you're it's not even
Speaker 5: like a few degrees of separation to your brother. There's
Speaker 5: pictures of you and Maxwell, right, I mean, that's they live.
Speaker 5: And I think that this is this is indicative of
Speaker 5: all of them, Bannon, Musk, Trump, and many of these
Speaker 5: other MAGA related people. They live such an insular, deluded
Speaker 5: existence that they I don't know if they're I think
Speaker 5: at times Trump genuinely believes I didn't really know Jeff
Speaker 5: Jeff Epstein, who's that I met once? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 5: you know that's about it. I think he he he
Speaker 5: has deluded himself to such an extent that he doesn't
Speaker 5: actually think he had any connection to this person. And
Speaker 5: I think It's the same with Elon Musk as well.
Speaker 5: I mean, when you have somebody that that's that rich
Speaker 5: and spoiled and completely I mean, I mean Elon Musk
Speaker 5: is an example. I mean he lies about the dumbest
Speaker 5: crap video games of all things, right blatantly, and it's pathetic.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's a compulsive liar. So the idea that
Speaker 5: he would say something like that about Trump and Epstein
Speaker 5: and then delete it, I mean, I think it also
Speaker 5: just goes to prove that he cares. Again, this is
Speaker 5: Elon Oh, he is this great guy and truth to power,
Speaker 5: but he just wants more EV contracts. He doesn't want
Speaker 5: to upset.
Speaker 2: But he didn't lose. Here's the weird thing about that.
Speaker 2: He didn't lose any of that stuff, even though Trump said,
Speaker 2: you know, I could just screw you over here on
Speaker 2: your contracts. That was his response after Epstein, by the way,
Speaker 2: in case you forgot it, was like, hey, I can
Speaker 2: hit you where it hurts, yea. And the funniest part
Speaker 2: to me is that Elon Musk, if you look at
Speaker 2: the history, and I know I'm gonna get crap for this,
Speaker 2: but if you look at his history, he buys into PayPal,
Speaker 2: he wants to turn it into X by he wants
Speaker 2: everything to have an X on it, really weird and
Speaker 2: put an X on it. Okay, he wanted PayPal to
Speaker 2: become X and he starts going in and even with Tesla,
Speaker 2: by the way, he invents nothing, He innovates nothing. He
Speaker 2: shows up at places, dumps money in that he gets
Speaker 2: from somewhere and says, I own it now. And everybody
Speaker 2: who's here has to say that I started this, whether
Speaker 2: it's PayPal or Tesla or whatever, SpaceX every and if
Speaker 2: you look into the papers of a corporation, you can
Speaker 2: see these things existed before he got there, all of them.
Speaker 2: And yet he's the you know, innovator, he's the creator
Speaker 2: and he insists on that, and he'll sue the hell
Speaker 2: out of people if they go outside of what the
Speaker 2: contract says. I mean, seriously, that's I mean that. Okay,
Speaker 2: Why am I pointing this out? Not because I even care.
Speaker 2: By the way, I don't care who invented SpaceX. You don't.
Speaker 2: He's gonna say he invented Twitter as X platform. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't care. But here's the thing
Speaker 2: that's a mentality though, that not only do you have
Speaker 2: to be inc in large and in charge with all
Speaker 2: the money, all the bank right, uh, seeding the world
Speaker 2: with your you know allegedly, uh you know children that
Speaker 2: you know, you artificially exseminated thirteen women. You're doing that
Speaker 2: simultaneous with I created everything. I maybe I'm nuts. Sounds
Speaker 2: like a god complex and a weak one at that.
Speaker 2: What do you think about that part of it?
Speaker 5: It's just so funny. You mentioned that this idea that
Speaker 5: you know, Elon mus quants sort of seed his DNA
Speaker 5: and create smarter people. That is something that Epstein believed
Speaker 5: in as well. Yeah, time I wanted to, you know,
Speaker 5: pro create. There were all these stories that you know,
Speaker 5: I think even Giffree talked about that in its either
Speaker 5: in the her manuscript for this awful book she never
Speaker 5: published or somewhere else, or other people that you know
Speaker 5: she was going to carry a child for them and
Speaker 5: then but Glaane and Epstein would raise it, and yeah,
Speaker 5: he was very much into all that kind of stuff. Yeah, so,
Speaker 5: you know, just just again just interesting overlap. These people
Speaker 5: their end goals are actually all quite similar, and when
Speaker 5: you get to that level, they're really not that different.
Speaker 2: See that's the weird thing. And everybody focuses on the
Speaker 2: collection of wealth, and it's bs because wealth can be
Speaker 2: manufactured overnight. That's how they minted Trump as a billionaire
Speaker 2: when they brought him in this time, they actually made
Speaker 2: him a billionaire finally. Okay, he never was before, never was,
Speaker 2: even with all of us selling his brand. He was
Speaker 2: never a billionaire until guess what the crypto bros said, Look,
Speaker 2: we got an easy way for you to do it.
Speaker 2: Here you go, here's your con boom. Now he's a
Speaker 2: billionaire for real. He's got his own media company, right,
Speaker 2: he's got his on Twitter. He's got it. Seriously, do
Speaker 2: you know They him and said, now you're in. That's
Speaker 2: what happened here with this twenty twenty you know, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty into twenty twenty four election deal. That's what happened.
Speaker 2: He got minted and placed in. Now what group is
Speaker 2: he in? Do you think Trump even has a moment
Speaker 2: to understand transhumanism or I.
Speaker 5: Don't think so. I think he's just then this is
Speaker 5: what's so funny weird. I mean, I think he's just
Speaker 5: a useful idiot for all of them. He's just a
Speaker 5: absolutely you really want to. But no, but I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't think he really cares about any of that.
Speaker 2: I think he is literally, listen, appears he is literally
Speaker 2: Ronald McDonald too. McDonald's that's the way he is, sir,
Speaker 2: Like he's the clown that they brought up front. Hey,
Speaker 2: look it's Ronald McDonald.
Speaker 3: Yay.
Speaker 2: Well name the children's hospital after him.
Speaker 5: Too, Yay.
Speaker 2: He don't own crap. That's some b roll actor, that's
Speaker 2: all that is. And they minted him as a billion
Speaker 2: so that he thinks he's in the game. That's what
Speaker 2: we're looking at here, and that's really the key to
Speaker 2: this Epstein thing. That's it. This is the more civilized
Speaker 2: version of the barbaric sticking little girls into shipping containers. Okay,
Speaker 2: this is the less barbaric version of that, even though
Speaker 2: it's sick and to prave, it's less barbaric than hurting
Speaker 2: people like cattle from whatever country. Will just ship them
Speaker 2: in here, you go. We can sell them off this
Speaker 2: much per pound, no problem, because if we you know,
Speaker 2: like much like a Big Show said when he was
Speaker 2: a guest star on Star Trek Enterprise, right, if I
Speaker 2: can't sell you as a slave, I'll sell you his food. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's fine, that's what we're looking at here. But the
Speaker 2: market is sophisticated. It's a little cleaner than the dirty
Speaker 2: shipping containers that you and I have probably seen little
Speaker 2: hints of before, and that's the kind of thing that
Speaker 2: the street thug runs. Meanwhile, we also have the Ditty
Speaker 2: incident and the trial that built up to nothing and
Speaker 2: all that going on. And I'm waiting on that pardon
Speaker 2: because I figure that's got to get snuck in there
Speaker 2: at some point. Yea, what do you.
Speaker 5: Think an autopen?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well maybe it will be the autopen, though
Speaker 2: he can blame that on Biden too.
Speaker 5: Is interesting because on the face of it, and I didn't,
Speaker 5: I didn't really follow much of the Diddy stuff, but
Speaker 5: it seemed like on a on a scale not that
Speaker 5: different from Epstein's. He's taping everything, I mean, wear are
Speaker 5: all these tapes right?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: But yeah, that is basically I mean, he won, he
Speaker 5: won that one. Uh, nobody really wants to get into it. Uh.
Speaker 5: There are seemingly endless number of celebrities that are all
Speaker 5: being quiet, right, There's no there's no smoking gun. There was,
Speaker 5: I mean, nothing has really come out.
Speaker 2: Of that although I want to interview fifty cent though
Speaker 2: I really know there's.
Speaker 5: So many like that. If you go back and you
Speaker 5: listen to all sorts of various wrapper interviews that people
Speaker 5: were talking about it for years and years and years,
Speaker 5: and there's all sorts of and I mean, I think.
Speaker 2: That's the day. Now here's the thing. I met Sean
Speaker 2: Combs in a weird way, in a business way in
Speaker 2: the nineties. Okay. Now, from that point on, I heard
Speaker 2: from a lot of thug rapper guys that he was gay.
Speaker 2: And you know why I heard he was gay because
Speaker 2: they knew he was hiring male prostitutes. They knew that much,
Speaker 2: but they didn't participate because they were like, no, man,
Speaker 2: that's gay. Now. I know that's not politically correct currently, okay,
Speaker 2: but that's what it was. And it was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you don't want to be nowhere near none of that
Speaker 2: because and he was looking for cheap ways to get
Speaker 2: production riffs and re recordings and stuff and all kinds
Speaker 2: of weird stuff he was trying to do with Bad
Speaker 2: Boy Records, and it grew into something else after Chris
Speaker 2: Wallace died, and you know that. But the thing is
Speaker 2: this business that he ends up with this whole you know,
Speaker 2: the freak offs and all that. It's kind of interesting
Speaker 2: how it ends up being the same kind of trafficking
Speaker 2: deal paying, except his prostitutes know their prostitutes always. That's
Speaker 2: the only difference here. The prostitutes that did he got
Speaker 2: knew that's what they were doing exactly. Okay, at all
Speaker 2: times they weren't teenagers showing up that we know of,
Speaker 2: although what happened with Justin Bieber, you know, there's lots
Speaker 2: of open questions there. But I guarantee you it's not
Speaker 2: as deep and dark as Epstein, even with the strangeness
Speaker 2: of it, even with the cuckholding, even with the sleep
Speaker 2: with my girlfriend I'm gonna watch, which is also not
Speaker 2: all that unusual anymore. Okay, just saying we're in a
Speaker 2: different time period here, But in the nineties and in
Speaker 2: the early two thousands, when I still had ties to
Speaker 2: the music industry, oh that that d word is gay, bro,
Speaker 2: That's what I heard from everybody who was not looking
Speaker 2: to participate in that. They just wanted, you know, let three, three,
Speaker 2: four girls show up in my hotel. I'll be happy.
Speaker 2: And they show up voluntarily and they kind of look
Speaker 2: them over make sure they don't look too young and
Speaker 2: let him in. And that's what they did. And I
Speaker 2: can't blame them for that. These are voluntary people participating
Speaker 2: in you know, consenting adult behaviors. But it got weird
Speaker 2: with the Sean Combs thing. Anyway, I'm not defending him,
Speaker 2: and I could have predicted that he was either going
Speaker 2: to get no charge or guess what the least of
Speaker 2: what he could be charged with. And yeah, he ended
Speaker 2: up with the two you know, transportation for the purposes
Speaker 2: of prostitution, so two Man Act violations, which is nothing.
Speaker 2: It's not the RICO, it's not the And here's the
Speaker 2: funny part, the timing of this firing now of Maureen
Speaker 2: and call me again last name. Interesting how that keeps
Speaker 2: coming up. I love it too, that he threw his
Speaker 2: own man, Ray under the bus. Oh Ray was involved
Speaker 2: in it. Yeah, the guy you brought in great perfect anyway, Well.
Speaker 5: That's a classic tactic from him too. I mean it's
Speaker 5: everybody that he's hired and then fired was against him. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but his idiots and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sloppy Steve is okay now though, Yeah, so which
Speaker 2: part of the magabase is going to get sheered away
Speaker 2: or none. And here's the funny part. The bulk of
Speaker 2: it is going nowhere. I know, the MSM is playing
Speaker 2: with everybody right now. Oh my god, look at this.
Speaker 2: This will be a big problem. Trump's pace is against
Speaker 2: him because they absolutely want this conspiracy theory that's not
Speaker 2: true to be true. And they dropped the whole Rosie
Speaker 2: O'Donnell losing her citizenship thing real quick. Anyway, Sorry, I.
Speaker 5: Know I still tend to think it's it is going
Speaker 5: to be. It is going to affect him because I
Speaker 5: my impression is, yes, there are so and you can
Speaker 5: see like this. I saw some clip of Charlie Kirk,
Speaker 5: who obviously is no integrity. But it's like I think
Speaker 5: it's like July eleventh's demanding that all of these files
Speaker 5: be released, and then July fourteenth. You know, I don't
Speaker 5: really care anymore. I'm just gonna let all my buddies
Speaker 5: at the in the government, I just trust them. So
Speaker 5: you know, again, always trust the government. And there's nothing
Speaker 5: to see here. So he's able to bully certain people
Speaker 5: into acquiescing and towing the line. But the people like
Speaker 5: Laura Lumer, who for whatever, for cocta reason, has incredible
Speaker 5: amounts of influence within that administration. I see her just
Speaker 5: not caring and just pulling some crazy stuff. I think
Speaker 5: that's a problem. He has surrounded himself with true believers,
Speaker 5: but many of them are more diluted than he is,
Speaker 5: and those are the people I think might do something
Speaker 5: a little bit nutty and it's going to come back
Speaker 5: to haunt him. And I think that he's now created
Speaker 5: this weird administration, or this sort of group of people,
Speaker 5: particularly Patel, Mangino and Bondi, that are now completely immeshed
Speaker 5: in this to an extent that I don't think they
Speaker 5: could just resign and leave, and I don't think he's
Speaker 5: going to fire them because he kind of needs them
Speaker 5: to kind of run roughshow and to take a lot
Speaker 5: of heat for him. But he's created this weird environment
Speaker 5: where he has shown himself, he has shown his true colors,
Speaker 5: and I think he's kind of stuck. He's now it's
Speaker 5: all a hoax, it's not real, but you know, we're
Speaker 5: not going to release it anyway, even if it's fake, right,
Speaker 5: and it was always fake and even when I said
Speaker 5: I was going to do it, that was fake. So
Speaker 5: again he's created these new narratives where he was either
Speaker 5: an idiot and made it up, or he knew it
Speaker 5: was a hoax and exploited it, or he knew it
Speaker 5: was bad but not that bad and exploited it. I mean,
Speaker 5: none of these are particularly good. And I think that
Speaker 5: you're correct that the mainstream media is perhaps a little
Speaker 5: too excited about it.
Speaker 2: But they'll work with it.
Speaker 5: Every single day. They will find some right winger influencer
Speaker 5: that is annoyed. They will find I think what they're
Speaker 5: going to do is they're going to finally be more
Speaker 5: comfortable with discussing the topic of Epstein, even if Bill Clinton,
Speaker 5: you know, and and Bill Gates and all of these
Speaker 5: beloved liberal figures are involved.
Speaker 3: But the.
Speaker 5: One thing I'll say is the power of Epstein is
Speaker 5: that anybody can use it. You know, if your right wing,
Speaker 5: it's all Clinton, if you're you know, a liberal, it's
Speaker 5: all Trump. And they can lean into that as much
Speaker 5: as they want to right now, And I don't know,
Speaker 5: I think it's a story that's not going to go away,
Speaker 5: and in part because Donald Trump is going to keep
Speaker 5: bringing it up, He's going to keep making it worse.
Speaker 5: He's going to keep blasting off weirder and weirder.
Speaker 2: Tweets, okay, but it took him ten years to finally
Speaker 2: say Putin's being a dick. I mean ten years of
Speaker 2: the guy pretty much, you know, leading them around like
Speaker 2: he's in a gimpsuit. I swear to God, that's what
Speaker 2: I'm looking at.
Speaker 5: Here he the QAnon stuff and January sixth, I mean
Speaker 5: that that was all. I mean, that was completely a hoax,
Speaker 5: right there was. I mean, nothing was going on there,
Speaker 5: just he's having to lose. I mean, they couldn't get
Speaker 5: over it. So I don't know, I think there is.
Speaker 5: And you look at Pizzagates stuff. Some of these people
Speaker 5: are sobic and others maybe out of it. There's people
Speaker 5: are going there and shooting again, people are going there
Speaker 5: with guns to what killed the children. I don't even know,
Speaker 5: like that the end result of that is so ridiculous.
Speaker 5: But I don't know. I'm not sure. Maybe I'm being
Speaker 5: I don't think I'm being like overly optimistic. I just
Speaker 5: like I want it to happen because I think it's
Speaker 5: just it's amazing to me.
Speaker 2: Oh, I can see, I could see how it would
Speaker 2: happen because here here's the nobody's going to have the
Speaker 2: balls at this point to go to him and push
Speaker 2: him from a media standpoint and as and really put
Speaker 2: to him the one reality that should be asked, which
Speaker 2: is this. Look, if it's all a fake, it's all
Speaker 2: a hoax, then you should be wanting to release it
Speaker 2: because you would prove how much of a hoax it.
Speaker 5: Is, how it is exposed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine that, because what did I say starting in
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen and have continued to say now for oh,
Speaker 2: I don't know eleven twelve years. Uh, Trump fighting the
Speaker 2: deep state. He's going to fight the deep state. This
Speaker 2: is what I heard. That was the the you know,
Speaker 2: the rally cry. I said, no, he's not going to
Speaker 2: fight it. He is the deep state, and or accurately,
Speaker 2: he's the front man. He is the face man. He
Speaker 2: is literally the confidence man for the con And that's
Speaker 2: what the reality is. And they minted him as billionaire
Speaker 2: because there was his actual payoff. And now guess what
Speaker 2: military industrial complex gets to you know, restock the mother
Speaker 2: of ball bombs or whatever. And we're still supplying stuff
Speaker 2: to Israel. And hey, you know, all you people who
Speaker 2: wanted nothing going over to Ukraine, guess what stuff's going
Speaker 2: over there?
Speaker 3: Too.
Speaker 2: Now somebody's going to prop it from that pay no
Speaker 2: attention to it though.
Speaker 5: Well, and it makes you wonder how much of this
Speaker 5: is the very same people that he was going to
Speaker 5: defeat are now dictating exactly what his policies are. We're
Speaker 5: going to fund Ukraine, We're gonna you gotta take a
Speaker 5: bigger step against Putin. We want to bomb Iran and
Speaker 5: fulfill the neo conservative sort of you know, prophecies about
Speaker 5: war in the Middle East. I mean, it is like
Speaker 5: that God now his name is just giving me the
Speaker 5: famous comedian that you know, people thought Alex Jones was impersonating.
Speaker 2: But not not not Bill Burr or Bill Hicks.
Speaker 5: Bill Hicks. You know, the the the video that when
Speaker 5: Bill Hicks had the bit about becoming elected on this
Speaker 5: crazy you know, this campaign of hope and change or
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm parent, that's not the words he use,
Speaker 5: I think, but uh, you know, you get elected and
Speaker 5: then you're you're brought into the proverbial smokefield room and
Speaker 5: you see, you know the footage of JFK being assassinated
Speaker 5: from an angle you've never seen before. Uh, and then
Speaker 5: it's here's your agenda. I mean, I think that's actually
Speaker 5: I think there's an element of that happening, and where
Speaker 5: because Trump is so in many ways transparent about how
Speaker 5: how bad he is at this, and he really just
Speaker 5: he'll say, whatever, we're just seeing, we're seeing it happening,
Speaker 5: uh in in a very tangible way. And also that
Speaker 5: he surrounded himself with probably the worst elements of the
Speaker 5: deep state. If Pam BONDI Paatel, these people they don't
Speaker 5: know what they're doing, you know. I mean, they're as
Speaker 5: macurial as he is, saying one thing one day and
Speaker 5: then taking it.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 5: Oh, no, I didn't mean the client list. I just
Speaker 5: meant when I said that the client list was there.
Speaker 5: I just meant that there were a bunch of files,
Speaker 5: which I guess are not real anyway.
Speaker 2: So the client list is on my desk, but it's
Speaker 2: all a hoax, and don't worry about it. You don't
Speaker 2: need it. I got it here. It is, But it's
Speaker 2: actually just the same. It's the same as it's been
Speaker 2: and they're going to contort and twist around and now
Speaker 2: that's a Democrat hoax, just like the Steele dossier was
Speaker 2: nothing but a Democrat hoax, just like the you know,
Speaker 2: everything's a Democrat hoax if you don't want to believe it,
Speaker 2: and that's that. And then on the other side, guess
Speaker 2: what everything is. You know, the agent Orange and what
Speaker 2: he does, and I get it, and here we go.
Speaker 2: And it still amazes me that people just dismiss like,
Speaker 2: you know, oh, the whole Russian thing was a lie.
Speaker 2: No it wasn't. And that's the funny part because even
Speaker 2: the guy protecting the system is like, yeah, we can
Speaker 2: see these connections, but it's a little difficult to prove anything,
Speaker 2: and we're not going to investigate, thank you. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: what the guy who was also trying to cover up
Speaker 2: parts of nine to eleven told you. But pay no
Speaker 2: attention to that no matter what you believe, because it'll
Speaker 2: change on a daily basis, and just take your cues
Speaker 2: from Orange. Jesus anyway, Pierce, if you want to tie
Speaker 2: a bow on his, go ahead. But I think you
Speaker 2: and I covered a hell of a lot of ground
Speaker 2: real fast. Unless you think we missed something, go ahead
Speaker 2: and hit it.
Speaker 5: No, probably nothing. I'm just sort of looking over my notes.
Speaker 5: Nothing really other than just to kind of, I mean,
Speaker 5: just to put a bow on it. Just remember that
Speaker 5: f scene wasted under Trump. He died under Trump. Trump
Speaker 5: elevated Acosta, the guy that gave paved the way for
Speaker 5: Epstein to not, you know, sort of skirt the law
Speaker 5: for many years. When asked, Epstein said, I wish her
Speaker 5: well in reference to Maxwell Bondi was also the Florida
Speaker 5: Attorney General while Epstein was registered as a sex offender.
Speaker 5: Jeffree was recruited from Mara a Lago. And this is
Speaker 5: all a Democratic.
Speaker 2: Coax and they waited till today to fire Maureen Comy,
Speaker 2: just saying okay, just you know, as wagging the dog. Well,
Speaker 2: it's not cruise missiles when you're you know, getting accused
Speaker 2: of one BJ from a consenting adult, even if she
Speaker 2: was a young intern. It's not that. And it's not
Speaker 2: you know, a real estate scam, which child's play really
Speaker 2: compared to what it is we look at now you
Speaker 2: had a real estate scam and Whitewater. Yeah, no, you know,
Speaker 2: it's poster one suicide. And uh, I'm holding my head, man,
Speaker 2: I really am.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 2: I mean, is there anything that we should take away
Speaker 2: from this though that we're not going to get from
Speaker 2: anywhere else? I mean, I I seriously think to myself
Speaker 2: because every time I dig into it, and I talked
Speaker 2: to somebody who was a serious JFK researcher recently who
Speaker 2: admitted to me that they've now fallen down this rabbit hole.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my god, please walk away.
Speaker 5: I mean, I say, I think, I know that it's
Speaker 5: very tantalizing to believe or to want to believe that
Speaker 5: this is this is the conspiracy to end all conspiracies,
Speaker 5: or that this is the the information there is so
Speaker 5: explosive that it would rock the very foundation of society
Speaker 5: and that and all. And I I the more and
Speaker 5: more I look at the epsteince of I tend to
Speaker 5: just think, no, it's not as crazy or as sensational
Speaker 5: as that. I think he was a despicable person. I
Speaker 5: think he did run a blackmail ring. I'm sure at
Speaker 5: various times of his life he was subcontracted out by
Speaker 5: various intelligence agencies, most likely CIA Massade, just based on
Speaker 5: his you know, his friends and the people that remained
Speaker 5: his friends for years after. But no, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't even think that that some of this information is,
Speaker 5: you know, is all that expl I mean again, people,
Speaker 5: people are they're so obsessed with this notion of the
Speaker 5: client list, I don't think there was ever such a list.
Speaker 5: I don't think that's kept a very you know, an
Speaker 5: actual list like Nixon, of everybody that was a client
Speaker 5: of his. I mean, if you want a client list,
Speaker 5: to look at his address book, which had you know,
Speaker 5: fifteen numbers for Donald Trump and all this, you know relatives.
Speaker 5: But what is probably in those are things like the
Speaker 5: autopsy report that's ever been released, the witness statements from
Speaker 5: people in New Mexico, Virgin Islands, New York, and there's
Speaker 5: a lot of just basic information.
Speaker 2: Okay, but beyond that, look beyond that, it's in government hands.
Speaker 2: And here's what I know about the government again, is
Speaker 2: that they can scrape metadata and pull together, guess what,
Speaker 2: a better list than he could of himself of people
Speaker 2: that interacted, did certain things, crossed over on certain events, dates, times,
Speaker 2: everything else. And it could be done in the snap
Speaker 2: of fingers. Okay, yeah, and no problem. They could have
Speaker 2: that material and drop it. But they're not gonna. And
Speaker 2: that's the thing. Just because he's dead doesn't mean the
Speaker 2: blackmail's dead. And I think people need to remember that
Speaker 2: some of those people are probably still vulnerable to that blackmail.
Speaker 2: And if not, if they're not still alive, well they
Speaker 2: their legacy, they're whatever, their children now, their families. There's
Speaker 2: lots of impact to be had here. But again, nobody's
Speaker 2: gonna question Orange Jesus as to why he doesn't want
Speaker 2: to release it. So here we are, and I think
Speaker 2: that's where we're gonna remain stuck. And I think he's
Speaker 2: hoping it'll like die down. I guess, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's a weird situation. Oh crap, I might have lost Peers. Wait, Pierce,
Speaker 2: he's still there.
Speaker 5: I'm here.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, you went like robotic gone for a second,
Speaker 2: like old Skype style. So but but anyway, look, I
Speaker 2: appreciate you taking the time to do this with me.
Speaker 2: Is there any new activity from you we need to
Speaker 2: know about before we close out the show for the night.
Speaker 5: Is it James Corden at border Report dot com and
Speaker 5: you're listening to the Ocelly affected Olly dot com?
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