WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.240 --> 00:00:05.000 You see, something's going to happen. 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.599 What what's going to happen? 3 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:15.519 What? 4 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:22.719 Help? 5 00:00:24.480 --> 00:00:28.640 Welcome to Part two of the Zizzy and Death Cult. Yeah. 6 00:00:28.719 --> 00:00:32.240 We we'll be continuing off where we left in episode 7 00:00:32.399 --> 00:00:36.119 one and we'll be finishing it up here. I hope 8 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:38.039 you all enjoy that. 9 00:00:38.079 --> 00:00:42.079 These guys are the adam and ideology kind of leads 10 00:00:42.119 --> 00:00:44.920 you down a wrong path usually no matter what, but 11 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:49.000 they they kind of I think there's an element of 12 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:53.200 that of the perversion of the hermaphrodite idea in the 13 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:59.159 alchemical and esoteric terms into this, this physical kind of 14 00:00:59.640 --> 00:01:02.320 guy who thinks that he can do whatever the heck 15 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:03.640 I think. 16 00:01:03.679 --> 00:01:06.000 I'm I'm totally with you on that. Ethan. I think 17 00:01:06.040 --> 00:01:09.840 a cult is I've taken an occult idea and twisted 18 00:01:09.879 --> 00:01:13.480 it into the physical form for people to adopt. 19 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:18.359 Sure, but what's that jump though that they can they 20 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:20.159 can maintain this ideology not to hurt. 21 00:01:20.040 --> 00:01:22.159 Animals, what the murdered humans? So I can think of 22 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:22.920 other groups to do this. 23 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:25.040 I'm just I'm just curious to know what your old 24 00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:27.640 thoughts on, like, how you know, you know, how they 25 00:01:27.680 --> 00:01:28.879 maintain this kind of ideology. 26 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:29.719 How do you think because. 27 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:34.959 Well, perhaps a jump. I think, well, it certainly is. 28 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:41.120 And and that's the interesting paradigm or contradiction actually that 29 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:45.560 they were interested in, uh if you guys might have 30 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:50.040 gone over uh interested in the what is it, uh 31 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:53.319 the rationalism group, right, which it's not. 32 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:59.280 There's nothing rational about hurting someone that you owe money 33 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:03.280 to your your land or you know, any any number 34 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:05.239 of things that are really irrational. 35 00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:08.400 But it could and to the point of irrationality, it 36 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:11.400 might have been as little as they saw the guy 37 00:02:11.439 --> 00:02:14.719 eating a hot dog once, so in their mind he 38 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:17.919 hurt something, so they can you know, you know what 39 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:20.599 I mean. So they weren't at all. 40 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:22.719 I'm tracking we and we did. We did. 41 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:24.759 We did cover that a little bit, the whole lack 42 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:28.240 of rationality and their actions. And it is funny because 43 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:31.840 they maintain these they continue to maintain these divisive positions 44 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:34.719 right on the same subjects, whether it's you know, human 45 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:37.599 life and animal life. Though they're pro their pro AI, 46 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:40.879 but they're warning people about AI. They're they're men, but 47 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:44.719 they're women. You know, they seem very that. 48 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:50.080 Reminds me of their whole kind or it's it seems 49 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:55.800 to be one of their paradoxical philosophies was that or 50 00:02:56.039 --> 00:02:59.840 is that we have two main parts in our psyche, 51 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:03.919 and that they are that they are at war with 52 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:08.080 each other and one is trying to usually one is 53 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:10.759 trying to kill the other. I find that an interesting 54 00:03:11.719 --> 00:03:17.560 esoteric idea that probably got took into some really dark 55 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:23.080 exoteric places in the sense. One of them, for instance, 56 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:27.759 I think was at least presented in his blog, was 57 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:36.120 unie hemispheric sleep instead of both by hemispheric sleep normal. 58 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:39.759 And maybe this is where some of the surgeon local 59 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:42.599 equipment came up. I don't know, but it might have 60 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:46.159 been as little as taping their eye open, but there 61 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:51.199 was some sort of aspect to where one eye was 62 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:57.560 kept open and they would induce one hemisphere to sleep 63 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:01.599 while the other hemisphere was away, which. 64 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:04.840 I find that to be really. 65 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:08.719 Just the pro I find the prospect of that to 66 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:14.960 be really an unstable result, and which would make one 67 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:21.680 really susceptible to unstable suggestions. Sure, just just my I 68 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:24.720 don't know necessarily about that, but sounds like. 69 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:26.600 Some clockwork orange type ittivity, right. 70 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:32.079 I would think for these k ultra experiments. Well, I 71 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:33.680 was just going to say, I think, well, this would 72 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:35.759 make sense if there was brainwashing in there some way 73 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:39.800 or or voice the skull technology. 74 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:42.639 What sounds like you right, Yeah, they got electronic equipment, 75 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:46.720 they're they're doing these weird ey ey hemispherical fucking nonsense, 76 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:47.120 you know. 77 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:51.040 Sounds like a hotbed of brainwashing. 78 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:55.120 Which also I wonder, I mean, they probably weren't into 79 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:59.000 this so much, but maybe somewhere somewhere along the line, 80 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:03.079 someone somewhere on the along the line was the whole 81 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:08.120 one eye thing. That's like odin and that's like raw 82 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:11.680 and there's so many but I mean, Nick, where could 83 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:14.920 we go with the with the eye concept. 84 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:17.120 On that one right? But one eyed? 85 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:20.319 God, it just that makes me think of like how 86 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:22.360 they were perverting that possibly. 87 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:28.959 M all right, real well, kind of quick as quick 88 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:30.879 as I can be. I'm gonna go a little bit 89 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:35.480 into Michelle Zenko and and then that other guy uh 90 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:40.639 Daniel author blank uh. Michelle's Zenko is a little interesting. 91 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:47.000 According to her linkedlin, She's a bio in from Maatitian 92 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:52.319 and from Pennsylvania. She was a research inter in turn 93 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:57.199 at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, and there she analyzed 94 00:05:57.240 --> 00:06:03.199 blood samples and psychological data to determine how predictive m 95 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:09.959 I R and a's are of neuro behavioral susceptibility and 96 00:06:10.040 --> 00:06:16.240 sleep deprived individuals on the NASA Human Research Analog Environment. 97 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:17.000 There you go. 98 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:24.920 She also was in bioinformatics in turn FANASA AMES Research 99 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:30.360 Center from June twenty eighteen to August twenty eighteen, and 100 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:31.600 there she developed it up. 101 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:33.720 The Mountain View right, that's the Silicon Valley center of 102 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:34.199 the NASA. 103 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:35.800 I have actually had no idea. 104 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:40.879 It's an AIMS, Yeah, NASA AMES. That's right there in 105 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:43.519 Mountain View. It's like right right, and it makes something 106 00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:44.839 Googles like right next door. 107 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:52.879 And their job was developed in troubleshooted bioinformatics pipelines using 108 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:59.279 high throughput biological data and analysis tools, processing raw data 109 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:04.160 and normalized associated metadata for the purpose of understanding space 110 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:10.040 flight stresses on biological systems. She also went to Temple 111 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:14.439 University from twenty fifteen to twenty seventeen. She went to 112 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:20.360 cabrini u University from twenty eleven to twenty fifteen. Some 113 00:07:20.399 --> 00:07:22.560 of the activities that she was interested in in the 114 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:28.680 societies was lead Strong the High Impact Network or think 115 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:35.279 fair trade activities and the YEAH leads Strong. She was 116 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:38.759 president and founder of Cabrini's chapter of the High Impact 117 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:43.399 Network from twenty to thirteen to twenty fifteen, and she 118 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:48.519 ran fundraised fundraisers for Against the Malaria Foundation, and she 119 00:07:48.600 --> 00:07:53.319 was a member of Lead Strong and Fair Trade to Think. 120 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:57.040 I'm gonna go over that one and just a little 121 00:07:57.040 --> 00:08:01.040 bit of the Malaria one. Think the High in Impact Network. 122 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:04.879 That is you can also find stuff about that on 123 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:08.079 the less Wrong. Now, this is when you also start 124 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:13.639 getting into that altruism stuff, which that goes back to 125 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:18.160 Sam bankman Free, think about us. The goals of the 126 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:22.360 High Impact Network THINK are one to encourage people to 127 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:25.439 think strategically about the best ways to improve the world, 128 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:30.160 and two to help provide to help people interested in 129 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:35.600 strategic altruism to organize and take effective action. We aim 130 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:39.399 to do this primarily through the development and maintenance of 131 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:43.320 a network of college student groups. The student groups would 132 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:45.919 focus on helping people to make decisions that benefit the 133 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:50.039 world the most when choosing a career, choosing how to donate, 134 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:54.960 and choosing what to research and so on and again 135 00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:59.320 just re iterate Sam bankman Free is associated with altruism. 136 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:05.440 Some of the locations for this place, I mean, yeah, huh. 137 00:09:04.200 --> 00:09:06.720 Now that well, what every time we talk about this rationalism, 138 00:09:06.759 --> 00:09:09.240 that's what I think of though, the same Bankman Freed's, 139 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:10.840 you know, is altruistic. 140 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:17.799 What are you called again, oh, effective altruism. 141 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:17.519 Effective altruism. 142 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:20.240 That's whenever I hear rationalism, like to me, like they're 143 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:22.519 all irrational and everything he did is, you know. 144 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:24.600 Not altruistic whatsoever, whatsoever. 145 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:27.120 And it's like the same bourbon is right, So like 146 00:09:27.159 --> 00:09:29.320 every time I hear this rationalism, like, that's why I 147 00:09:29.320 --> 00:09:31.960 think of Sam Bankman Freed's bullshit and is effective altruism. 148 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:36.000 And before they were associated with IRI, which is even 149 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:38.919 funded by him. 150 00:09:38.279 --> 00:09:41.679 Right, right, then maybe speaking the same language on purpose then, right. 151 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:45.799 Some of the locations I just wanted to tost say there. 152 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:47.600 I'm not gonna read all of them. I mean on 153 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:50.360 this site that they have, like there's fifty new cities, 154 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:52.200 so I don't know how many they already have because 155 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:54.919 those are new they already had some prior. But some 156 00:09:54.960 --> 00:10:02.720 of them are Waterloo, Canada, Kyle, Germany, Munich, Germany, is Italy, Mexico, Austin, 157 00:10:02.840 --> 00:10:05.399 United States, the Bay Area in the United States, Dallas, 158 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:10.000 United States, Houston, Los Angeles, Minneapolis and the University of 159 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:18.039 Idaho against Malaria. It's Kindada in Germany and part of 160 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:21.679 Give Well. Now give Well, you start getting back into 161 00:10:21.759 --> 00:10:26.480 the effective altruism crap again. And the owner is Rob 162 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:30.240 Mather and their thing is we protect people from malaria. 163 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:33.279 We found nets and ensure they are distributed and used. 164 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:36.039 We show you where the nets go. We monitor and 165 00:10:36.039 --> 00:10:39.919 import their use and impact. The Against Malaria Foundation is 166 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:44.799 a United Kingdom based charity. Nets are distributed through partners 167 00:10:44.879 --> 00:10:47.919 and partnerships with the International Red Cross. 168 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:51.519 It just sounds like a scam bise description, you know 169 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:51.840 what I mean. 170 00:10:51.919 --> 00:10:53.919 If you go to the site, it look like we'll 171 00:10:53.919 --> 00:10:56.360 hand out a net to you. We're raking in hundreds 172 00:10:56.360 --> 00:10:57.720 of millions of dollars for these nets. 173 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:06.200 Now, a little bit about Daniel Arthur Blank. He was 174 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:10.120 born in Berkeley, California, and has always excelled in school, 175 00:11:10.559 --> 00:11:13.080 earning straight a's and praised and this is from a 176 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:17.639 news article and praised from his teachers. His mother, Nadia Blank, 177 00:11:17.919 --> 00:11:22.399 told Open Vallejo he competed on a Science Bowl team 178 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:25.759 throughout middle and high school and was fluent in three languages. 179 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:30.480 She said, Blank, who became a vegan in college graduated 180 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:33.919 a semester early from the University of California in Berkeley 181 00:11:34.279 --> 00:11:38.639 with a double major in bioengineering and computer science, according 182 00:11:38.639 --> 00:11:42.919 to a resume posted on his LinkedIn profile. As an undergraduate, 183 00:11:42.960 --> 00:11:47.120 he conducted research for two Berkeley professors and interned at 184 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:52.480 Oracle and Daphneil Labs. Blank's mother said he accepted a 185 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:58.039 high paying corporate offer in Oakland following graduation. Daniel Blank's 186 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:01.320 parents Stole Open Valleo in an in you Monday that 187 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:03.679 they believe their son's involvement with the group may be 188 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:08.159 a result of brainwashing. He's not a violent person, said 189 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:11.799 his father, Alexander Blank. I don't think that Daniel actually 190 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:15.440 did anything really wrong except maybe being with the wrong people. 191 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:20.639 That's what he says. Another news article says public records 192 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:25.480 show he's never listed Sacramento as a home address. Maryland 193 00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:28.279 court records show that the home address he gave authorities 194 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:30.720 after he was taken into custody Sunday is actually a 195 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:37.440 private mailbox station on Rockingham Drive in Rancho Cordova, representative 196 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:40.120 for the firm, told the Sacramento be on Thursday that 197 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:44.440 Blank had rented a virtual mailbox for three months last 198 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:48.679 year and never having stepped foot in the business. He 199 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:52.120 did everything online, said the representative. Blank had rented the 200 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:55.720 box to have mail received that a physical location and 201 00:12:55.759 --> 00:13:00.240 then sent to him electronically. And I can't figure figure 202 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:03.840 out how I think I'm just throwing this out there. 203 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:07.240 It might be he just up and disappeared for a while. 204 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:10.240 I don't know if they're considering that, but it does 205 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:13.279 come up and it just says basically and in Maryland 206 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:17.480 he faked his death in twenty twenty two. Now, I 207 00:13:17.519 --> 00:13:19.679 know there was one time where this kid supposedly disappeared 208 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:21.320 for a while as well, and the parents thought that 209 00:13:21.320 --> 00:13:23.639 maybe he was dead, would disappeared or ran away, But 210 00:13:23.720 --> 00:13:27.559 like that's considered faking your death, just leaving home. I 211 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:29.919 don't know, that could be it, or there's something else 212 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:33.519 there that I couldn't find, But again, he's considered to 213 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:34.919 being known for faking his death. 214 00:13:36.039 --> 00:13:37.960 Yeah, to me, it just seems like there's some like 215 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:40.600 they're getting some top cover in these activities of faking 216 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:43.440 their death, and you know, interstate travel, and you have 217 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:45.799 these weird attorneys getting involved in that one. I really 218 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:47.679 wonder what else is going on behind the scenes they 219 00:13:47.679 --> 00:13:52.720 helped perpetrate these this group's to activities because it seems 220 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:54.759 abnormal to get away with all this fake d you know, 221 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:57.679 faking of death and interstate travel, et cetera. It just 222 00:13:57.679 --> 00:13:59.960 seems I'm not behying it, you know what I mean, 223 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:02.519 Like there's something more to that tale right. 224 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:04.200 There. 225 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:07.759 I saw one strand of information where they were talking 226 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:13.480 about how one aspect of Ziz and the crew were 227 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:18.879 that how they believed AI was going to be God 228 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:24.360 consciousness or something to that effect, and they I think 229 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:30.000 whatever they did now would be known about in the 230 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:34.919 future by this AI God consciousness, if you will, and 231 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:41.480 that they would be thus rewarded, which which is another 232 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:46.080 you know, not to say that it's not true necessarily, 233 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:52.840 but that's another kind of cultish modality, whether whether it's spiritual, 234 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:59.240 cult or even political, like go through this and a 235 00:14:59.240 --> 00:15:01.799 AI got God will know and it's all going to 236 00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:03.759 be great, or go through this and we're going to 237 00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:07.759 have a communist utopia. 238 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:11.440 That's interesting, same pattern. 239 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:17.279 Just to kind of insert. In June of twenty twenty three, 240 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:21.720 l Soda was released from custody after posting a ten 241 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:25.120 thousand dollars bail. He failed to return to court, and 242 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:29.240 the judge issued then issued him a bench warrant. Friedman, 243 00:15:29.320 --> 00:15:32.600 the attorney, said that he hadn't heard from Lesoda since 244 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:35.279 twenty twenty two and had no idea his whereabouts. I 245 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:37.480 do think this guy is like in on the tape 246 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:40.399 on this whole thing, and then he went on to say, 247 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:43.159 I represent vegans. We believe in non violence, almost as 248 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:48.279 if like you know on Q both Blank and Zeco 249 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:52.240 have not been charged in the connection with dul mohomicide 250 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:55.440 at this point in June, which I thought was very interesting. 251 00:15:55.480 --> 00:15:58.360 Did you find the gun? Did you not find the gun? No? Nothing, 252 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:02.879 So yeah, that interesting. So we're going to talk a 253 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:09.120 little bit about Ophelia or Felix Bachholt. She's referred to 254 00:16:09.120 --> 00:16:11.840 both in the court documents, and so in July of 255 00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:15.320 twenty twenty three, she begins renting half of a duplex 256 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:21.120 in Chapel Hill in North Carolina. Sophelia Bucklet had a 257 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:25.919 work visa from Germany and went to the University of Waterloo. 258 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:29.639 He grew he or she grew up in Germany, where 259 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:34.240 he was a mathematician or mathematics whiz kid, winning awards 260 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:37.720 and accolades and scholastics for both math and computer science 261 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:41.159 at the national level. One of the things that I 262 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:45.120 wanted to mention about university that she went to the 263 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:50.000 University of Waterloo and you have a lot of Peter 264 00:16:50.120 --> 00:16:55.600 Teel people attending there either on a scholarship or they 265 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:59.919 leave to go work at the Teal Fellowship or foundation. 266 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:04.279 So University of Waterloo is kind of like a hotbed 267 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:07.680 for computer geeks, nerds whatever. You get a lot of 268 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:10.839 people coming in with huge scholarships or not even finishing 269 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:15.440 because they get recruited out, especially by Teofellowship, Pollenteer whatever. 270 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:18.640 They will pull people out and offer them one hundred 271 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:21.480 thousand dollars whatever money and just to get them to 272 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:24.799 transition and work somewhere else, or they'll do an internship 273 00:17:24.920 --> 00:17:27.839 or whatever. But University of Waterloo is pretty big with that, 274 00:17:28.400 --> 00:17:33.359 and Ophelia Felix was going there. One of the university 275 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:36.599 media releases from twenty nineteen said Bockholt was a member 276 00:17:36.599 --> 00:17:39.079 of the school's team that competed at the William will 277 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:43.960 Putnam Mathematical Competition and annual contest for universities in Canada 278 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:46.640 and the United States, and it's considered one of the 279 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:50.960 world's most prestigious math contests. So basically it's you know 280 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:53.319 he or she is a whiz kid, and they went 281 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:57.039 to a high school in Germany that they excelled in 282 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:00.279 math and they were considered a national math champion, like 283 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:02.759 in twenty fourteen won a gold medal in the Olympic 284 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:06.119 Olympiad of Informatics, which is one of the most prestigious 285 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:12.240 high school coding contests in the world. So another thing 286 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:14.440 I wanted to kind of insert in here was that 287 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:17.279 I read like a Reddit thread on Ophelia and they 288 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:20.319 had said they claimed to have known her in college 289 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:22.279 or whatever, and they said that she was on a 290 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:26.680 full ride, she was extremely intelligent, and she was borderline 291 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:34.440 genius with mathematics. So Bucklt, LinkedIn entree said that she 292 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:38.880 studied pure mathematics, and online records show that she was 293 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:42.200 involved in the university's computer science club as an executive member, 294 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:45.839 although a fellow executive member of the club at the 295 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:47.960 time said the buck Hold was not well known to 296 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:54.400 him or others that he knew there. So, according to 297 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:58.480 the reports, Ophelia earned a scholarship to study pure mathematics 298 00:18:58.480 --> 00:19:00.680 at the University of Waterloo, Canada, kind of like what 299 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:03.240 I was saying, and that college friends said that she 300 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:06.279 was passionate about math, fun and positive member of computer 301 00:19:06.319 --> 00:19:09.079 science club, and we already talked about all that, and 302 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:11.279 that they were she was a type of people that 303 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:15.599 basically read math books for fun or did math on 304 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:19.799 a chalkboard for fun. So in twenty eighteen Facebook post, 305 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:23.960 she posted that she donated five thousand dollars to the 306 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:29.160 Against Malaria Foundation. Here's the Against Malaria Foundation all over again. 307 00:19:29.400 --> 00:19:31.200 And I wonder, and Nick and I were talking about this. 308 00:19:31.240 --> 00:19:33.839 I wonder if this is something like a form or 309 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:36.359 something and people say, hey, you should donate to this place, 310 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:39.640 or hey, are you affective altruism? This is why because 311 00:19:39.680 --> 00:19:41.480 she goes on this rant with one of her friends 312 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:43.720 and says, I'm only going to give my money to 313 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:45.839 where it's going to make the most difference to the 314 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:48.279 most amount of people. I mean almost like, you know, 315 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:50.839 parroting the thing, and you have all these other people 316 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:54.200 in this whole collective that are also donating to that 317 00:19:54.319 --> 00:19:59.960 almost exact foundation. Buckholt graduated in twenty nineteen. She interned 318 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:02.880 Jane Street Capital, New York, which is an elite quantitative 319 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:06.799 trading firm in college. Then she goes on to graduate 320 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:09.680 from Waterloo with honors, and it is at this point 321 00:20:09.720 --> 00:20:13.079 that she transitioned to female after college. 322 00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:20.599 Buckholtz, now deleted LinkedIn profile says he worked in the 323 00:20:20.640 --> 00:20:25.799 New York office of Tower Research Capital, the high frequency 324 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:29.960 trading firm. He joined Tower in October of twenty twenty one, 325 00:20:30.039 --> 00:20:34.440 following two years at Radix Trading. His current job at 326 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:36.559 the time of the shooting on his profile was a 327 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:40.839 quantitative trader at Tower Research Capital in New York City. 328 00:20:42.119 --> 00:20:45.119 Calls and emails from National Post to Tower asking for 329 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:48.599 information about Buckholt and to confirm his position have gone 330 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:50.799 unanswered several days. 331 00:20:53.119 --> 00:20:55.839 Yeah too, like what Nick had said. I mean, basically, 332 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:59.680 it's a quantitative trader job, and she's just using you know, 333 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:03.880 com x mathematical models to look at which investment opportunities 334 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:07.119 are the best. And she was they say, they said 335 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:09.720 something like she was making like five hundred thousand a 336 00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:14.519 year working at that NYC firm. And so in twenty 337 00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:18.279 twenty two, she had a conversation with an AI researcher 338 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:23.720 at one of the Berkeley Rationalist Scene conferences, and that 339 00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:26.880 she said that, you know, Buckhole was bright, and she 340 00:21:27.039 --> 00:21:29.519 was very smart, but it was a little bit weird 341 00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:32.000 and socially awkward, And I'm like, but aren't many people 342 00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:34.839 like in that field like that already, you know. So 343 00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:37.319 I don't know if that's like a true assessment. But 344 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:39.720 so they hung out over several times a year, and 345 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:44.599 that discussions always were centered around zizz or from Ophelia's side, 346 00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:47.240 and that Buckhold was enthralled with most of Zizi and 347 00:21:47.319 --> 00:21:51.680 tenants the importance of altruism, veganism, and that Ophelia really 348 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:56.319 wasn't bothered by the importance of retribution under certain circumstances, 349 00:21:56.319 --> 00:21:58.920 which I guess kind of like with Curtis lind you know, 350 00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:04.440 the the girl, this girl. The AI researcher said that 351 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:07.200 she had told Ophelia to see her clear of ziz 352 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:10.119 because she had already heard of other things, and that 353 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:13.640 they were already considered a death cult at that point. 354 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:18.160 So Ophelia lived in New Jersey, apparently had this you know, 355 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:22.359 like apartment, and was a network for transgendered women. So 356 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:24.200 I don't know if it's like a collective or a 357 00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:27.039 pool of people that are working in these areas and 358 00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:32.240 you know, basically all get together but they a friend 359 00:22:32.279 --> 00:22:36.559 of hers and her roommate basically talked about how she 360 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:41.599 engaged she had this job and that her day, Ophelia's 361 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:46.039 day revolved around super micromantic decisions and that they were 362 00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:49.240 constantly gaging her state of mind to make sure it 363 00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:52.160 was in the right place and to optimally perform for work. 364 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:55.200 And I'm like, who was making these decisions, who was 365 00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:58.759 analyzing all of that? You know, like, that's that's very 366 00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:03.119 interesting to kind of insert that into the narrative. According 367 00:23:03.160 --> 00:23:05.839 to friends, Buckholt made more money than most, but she 368 00:23:05.880 --> 00:23:08.200 only spent ten percent of her pre tax income and 369 00:23:08.279 --> 00:23:11.440 donated a significant amount to charity, one of them being 370 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:16.559 the Malaria One. She's considered an effective altruist, donating much 371 00:23:16.599 --> 00:23:19.799 of what she earned to causes the largest impact. And 372 00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:22.680 then in the spring of twenty twenty three, she goes dark. 373 00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:25.720 She retreats from friends, you know, takes long periods of 374 00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:28.359 time talking on the phone, and she doesn't want to 375 00:23:28.359 --> 00:23:30.680 tell anybody who she's talking on the phone. And then 376 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:34.519 she started to take weekend flights to undisclosed locations, and 377 00:23:34.519 --> 00:23:37.440 then ultimately in November twenty twenty three, she took a 378 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:42.079 flight out of Newark and basically cut off friends, family, 379 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:43.000 anyone she knew. 380 00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:53.079 Man, I say the tower symbol and company as you're talking, 381 00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:56.720 it reminds me of like the evil company from RoboCop. 382 00:23:57.880 --> 00:24:01.799 But also as I'm looking at the symbol, it is 383 00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:09.000 these snakes wrapping around the staff. Uh the what is 384 00:24:09.039 --> 00:24:16.279 the obvious? Also also two swirling snakes if you if 385 00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:17.720 you look at it long enough, I. 386 00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:21.960 Guess I'm clearing the wrong business with all these folks. 387 00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:24.839 Mind these malaria nets, a lot of malaria nets getting 388 00:24:24.839 --> 00:24:25.480 purchased here. 389 00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:30.079 Makes sure wonder what's really going on with all that. 390 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:32.480 That's gonna be the new grift, right. 391 00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:38.519 Well? It also there are certain levels of the military 392 00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:43.440 that is in charge of you know, high end weapons 393 00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:47.759 and so forth, and they are watched like it sounded 394 00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:51.279 like this guy was watched by that company. What are you? 395 00:24:51.319 --> 00:24:53.200 What kind of pills are you taking? And what is 396 00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:55.160 your mind state? And did you get into an argument? 397 00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:57.960 This way on to work type of thing like looking 398 00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:00.279 at everything? So it sounds like he was doing some 399 00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:02.319 very sensitive stuff. 400 00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:14.880 Agreed, Yeah, all right? So uh yes. Next slide. Teresa 401 00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:19.279