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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is another reason why Canada the United

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<v Speaker 1>States can't unify, because you know you have these problems right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's incompatible technical issues. Ask not what your country can

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<v Speaker 1>do for you, Ask what you can do for your country.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister garbach Off, tear down this wall.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the Ricochet Podcast. I'm James Willings, joined by Steven

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<v Speaker 2>Hayward and we're going to be talking to ezra Levant

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<v Speaker 2>about what oh Canada, so let's ever sells a podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>This may be my last day here in this office,

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<v Speaker 3>but I will always be boldly and unapologetically Canadian. My

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<v Speaker 3>only ask is that no matter what the world throws

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<v Speaker 3>at us, you always be the same.

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<v Speaker 4>Why are you running away from simple questions? Just answer

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<v Speaker 4>a question? If you talked to President Trump yet, and

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<v Speaker 4>I pushed me, when was the last time you answered

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<v Speaker 4>a question that you didn't know what was coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome everybody, It's the Ricochet Podcast. To number seven, one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirty two. I'm James Lyleax in a beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>proto spring day in Minneapolis. I'm joined by Stephen Heywood

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<v Speaker 2>in California. I presume, unless, of course, you're off in

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<v Speaker 2>Bruges or Peru or somewhere, you parapatetic fellow.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm at home today and where it's pouring rain,

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<v Speaker 1>so you have better weather than I do.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good. Charles W. Cook is not with us due

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<v Speaker 2>to a joyous family occasion, So in his absence we

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<v Speaker 2>will attempt to say things in that accent that somehow,

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<v Speaker 2>that somehow makes us sound smarter than we actually are.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the only thing I envy Charlie four, among

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<v Speaker 2>many other things, like the fact that he's in Florida

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<v Speaker 2>and the fact that well he doesn't have to confront

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps what we are going to confront right now today. Stephen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm almost tempted to say that I could just make

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<v Speaker 2>something up about what's being proposed, or what's happening, or

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<v Speaker 2>what's being criticized, and by the time this gets out,

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<v Speaker 2>and by the time next week happens, it'll be true.

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<v Speaker 2>It will have happened. The continue blizzard of stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>follows from this administration. One of the things that interested

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<v Speaker 2>me last week is the proposal to cut taxes for

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<v Speaker 2>anybody who's making under one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I support this, but I should also know that I

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<v Speaker 2>am the author of How to Make exactly one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and forty nine and ninety nine dollars a year. So

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of have a vested interest in this, But

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<v Speaker 2>on another level, I do not. I kind of want

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<v Speaker 2>everybody to pay taxes, and I would think that in

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<v Speaker 2>your striking while the iron is hot mode here, this

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<v Speaker 2>would be a great time to say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to abolish the entire irs. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have a flat rate tax, right, and everybody's just going

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<v Speaker 2>to fill out a postcard and that's that. Let's say, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in complete agreement. We don't want we don't We've

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<v Speaker 2>already skewed the income tax to the upper brackets already,

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<v Speaker 2>a contrary to what you hear repeatedly from Elizabeth warrens

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<v Speaker 2>of the world. And you do want people to have

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<v Speaker 2>a stake in the government. I've long thought that even

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<v Speaker 2>low income people should pay a little bit so they

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<v Speaker 2>have skin in the game. And so no, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong direction to do it that way. And yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the flat tax is the right solution. The usual complaints

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<v Speaker 2>about the fat fact the flat tax, of course, is

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<v Speaker 2>you mean to say that Warren Buffett would pay the

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<v Speaker 2>same rate as his secretary, to which I would say, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's precisely and exactly what I have to say, because

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<v Speaker 2>that seems to me in our democracy where we're searching

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<v Speaker 2>for equality, I know that equities replaced equality would still

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<v Speaker 2>bear me out. I'm an old guy. It would seem

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<v Speaker 2>to be that there's something fundamentally unfair about a series

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<v Speaker 2>of laws that are skewed adjusted and according to how

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<v Speaker 2>much money make or property you have. I've always wondered

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<v Speaker 2>exactly how they got the constitutionality of a progressive income

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<v Speaker 2>tax passed the Supreme Court? Can you explain? I know nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>I know nothing, So could you tell me exactly how

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<v Speaker 2>that happened? Well, they did.

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<v Speaker 1>They required a constitutional amendment because Congress did pass as

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<v Speaker 1>an income tax in the eighteen nineties and the Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court struck it down for violating the so called direct

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<v Speaker 1>tax clause of Article one. It's a little weird what

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<v Speaker 1>a direct tax means, but in practice it meant that

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<v Speaker 1>a portioning it according to population by state. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of reasons why they did that, and it's kind of strange,

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<v Speaker 1>but so the tax incomes directly required the sixteenth Amendment. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the amendment says nothing about the progressivity of the rates.

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<v Speaker 1>If you go back and look at the debates in Congress,

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<v Speaker 1>some people said, well, first of all, the opponents said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be a very modest tax on just the

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<v Speaker 1>very high upper income people. You know, start five percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people won't pay it, which they didn't for decades.

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<v Speaker 1>And the alarmist said, you know, we don't trust you.

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<v Speaker 1>We think the rate might get as high as ten

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<v Speaker 1>percent someday. Right, So that's how I got it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Buffet thing. Look, if you say the same

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<v Speaker 1>rate as his secretary, Harry, if he makes ten times

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of a secretary, he'll pay ten times a tax. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the odd thing about this proposal is, you know, Buffett's

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<v Speaker 1>a strange guy. He takes a very tiny salary from

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<v Speaker 1>Berkshire Hathaway. I think it might even be one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty thousand dollars, and he's, you know, he always

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<v Speaker 1>sort of main compensation which is not taxed until he

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<v Speaker 1>sells it. So I'm tempted to say the opponents of

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<v Speaker 1>this should say, somebody wants tax break for Democrat billionaires

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<v Speaker 1>like Warren Buffett, just for the confusion in Mayhem, it

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<v Speaker 1>would cause.

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<v Speaker 2>The other tax that people grove about is the consumption tax. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and that we get away do it with the iris

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<v Speaker 2>entirely and fund the government by tariffs and or consumption taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've heard that argument back and forth, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always you know, I hear the argument and I say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, there's a lot of sense to that.

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<v Speaker 2>There really is of the counter argument and say, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, there's a lot of sense to that too.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not crazy about a consumption tax for a variety

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<v Speaker 2>of reasons. I don't like I mean, it strikes me

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<v Speaker 2>like the VAT or something gets something gets built in

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<v Speaker 2>and ends up creeping its way into every single aspect

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<v Speaker 2>of a product's construction manufacturer until eventually the price of

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<v Speaker 2>everything goes up. And you can say, well, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean the price of everything would go up, but you

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<v Speaker 2>you know, need to have more money because you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be taxed at this user, at this this exor rate

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<v Speaker 2>by the federal government. And I just there's just something

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<v Speaker 2>about the absolute simplicity of a flat tax and the

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<v Speaker 2>ability and the idea that you could just like do

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<v Speaker 2>your taxes in a trice without really thinking. Because here's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing. Everybody knows this. You do your taxes right,

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<v Speaker 2>you send them in and then if you get them wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>the government will tell you what you got wrong. And

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<v Speaker 2>I always every April fifteenth, as I mailing it away

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<v Speaker 2>and or you know, March, when I'm dropping it off

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<v Speaker 2>with the tax preparers, I always say, look, if they

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<v Speaker 2>know what I owe, why don't they just tell me?

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<v Speaker 2>Why do I have to go through this whole thing?

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<v Speaker 2>And then bite my nails out of fear that I've

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<v Speaker 2>got something? So maybe become the fifteenth. We may talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that more as the culture, but this is really

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<v Speaker 2>the did you ever see?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course he's passed away now, but Don Rumsfeld used

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<v Speaker 1>to send in a letter to the IRS with his

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<v Speaker 1>tax return every year saying, here's my tax return. I've

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<v Speaker 1>signed it like you require, but I cannot vouch for

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<v Speaker 1>the accuracy of it because no one can because you

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<v Speaker 1>call the By the way people have done this, you

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<v Speaker 1>call the IRS a helpline and if you get through,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll tell you one thing. You call it again and

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<v Speaker 1>get through, you might get a different thing. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>even get consistent guidance from the irs. But I'll say

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<v Speaker 1>this about the consumption tax. My fear is that we

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's what the left really wants. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the value added tax. The problem with it is it's

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I have thought once in a while, as a theoretical

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<v Speaker 1>or a talking point, that maybe we ought to there's

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<v Speaker 1>some reasons why consumption tax is a better tax, for

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<v Speaker 1>tax efficiency reasons and so forth. But I like the

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<v Speaker 1>idea a little bit in theory because it would connect

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<v Speaker 1>the cost of government to all citizens. And if citizens

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<v Speaker 1>were actually made to pay for all the government they get,

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<v Speaker 1>they might want less of it. So my point is

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<v Speaker 1>is that there's a small window. Maybe, and listeners will

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<v Speaker 1>tell me I'm out of my mind, and they're probably

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<v Speaker 1>right that the case for broader based consumption taxes on

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<v Speaker 1>everybody would actually change the body politic in favor of

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<v Speaker 1>much less spending. Maybe that's too optimistic.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it is too optimistic because a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people just won't make that connection, and they won't figure

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<v Speaker 2>out and besides, they like what they're getting. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>look exactly how we've seen about twenty thirty forty percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the population absolutely shriek because DOGE has gone and

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<v Speaker 2>taken away and demolished one agency, one agency. Right, I

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<v Speaker 2>was rooting today, I mean Columbia. Do you think Columbia

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<v Speaker 2>is going to get its four hundred million back this

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<v Speaker 2>year or because they've made a whole bunch of changes,

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<v Speaker 2>shall we say, they've they sort of retrospectively decided that

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<v Speaker 2>they acted poorly before when it came to the protests,

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<v Speaker 2>and now they're cleaning house because apparently the prospect of

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<v Speaker 2>hanging has concentrated in their mind wonderfully. Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>they'll get their money back? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think here we want to borrow the old Reagan

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<v Speaker 1>slogan from the Lake Cold War Trust, but verify. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure they go through with the expulsions,

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<v Speaker 1>that they go through with enforcing new standards including no

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<v Speaker 1>one protesters can wear masks on campus and so forth,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think you want to keep the pressure

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<v Speaker 1>on and actually build the pressure. I mean, look the

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<v Speaker 1>problem with Columbia, and I think they've already put their

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<v Speaker 1>middle Eastern Studies program in receivership. The problem with Columbia

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<v Speaker 1>these other places, as in as Stepman put it, lives

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<v Speaker 1>there in Manhattan, is that these universities have become madrasas

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<v Speaker 1>I mean almost literally so in these Middle East Studies

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<v Speaker 1>Department and some college presidents are going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>wake up and say, the problem is not just our

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<v Speaker 1>rules of enforcement on protests, it's the stuff we're teaching

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<v Speaker 1>and the faculty we're hiring, and they need to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of them wholesale. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Political had a headline yesterday that said a Republican have

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<v Speaker 2>long hated universities and now finally there's their chance to

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<v Speaker 2>show that by dismantling them, which I don't know. It

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<v Speaker 2>brings to mind the old of Dodge that the right

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<v Speaker 2>knows the arguments of the left, but the left does

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<v Speaker 2>not know the artright the right. I mean, yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean we swim in a culture where it's inevitable that

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to hear the arguments of the other side,

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<v Speaker 2>but they don't, so let me explain it to them.

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<v Speaker 2>It is not that we are a bunch of bou

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<v Speaker 2>boisie idiots who don't want none of that book learning

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, you could have that in there, you

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<v Speaker 2>the sciences, then you're just not paying attention. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>it's not that the right hates book learning and smart

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, you're absolutely right. I could go on way

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<v Speaker 1>a good, great books program that teaches the humanities and

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<v Speaker 2>They're wildly popular with.

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<v Speaker 1>Students because they're not teaching jargon and woke ideologies and

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<v Speaker 2>They teach it the old fashioned way.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's read Shakespeare instead of implying our own theories about

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<v Speaker 1>and then talk about it like in normal human beings

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<v Speaker 1>that's done so little. But on the other hand, like

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely so.

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<v Speaker 2>of the Century, the America First plan for Canada's oil sands. Welcome, Ezra,

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<v Speaker 4>You know today the new Canadian Prime Minister was just

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<v Speaker 4>sworn in about an hour ago, and he's Trudeau two

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<v Speaker 4>point zero. In fact, he's worse than Trudeau. But he's

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<v Speaker 4>also a little bit smarter than Trudeau. So that's bad news.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm here in Minnesota, which is practically Canada, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm afraid he's gonna make rumbling noises about annexing us

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<v Speaker 2>and being the next province. But tell us more about

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<v Speaker 2>this guy. He's come out of nowhere, and we here

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<v Speaker 2>in the States on the conservative side, we were poised

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<v Speaker 2>to see Pierre Pounds and replace Justin but now it

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<v Speaker 2>seems as if the conservative movement in Canada is on

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<v Speaker 2>the back foot thanks to a resurgence of nationalism. Economic nationalis.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us more about this new guy and what you

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<v Speaker 2>expect out of him.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, his name is Mark Carney, and he's been out

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<v Speaker 4>of Canada for decades. He was the head of the

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<v Speaker 4>Bank of Canada, which would be like our federal Reserve.

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<v Speaker 4>But then he went and he became the head of

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<v Speaker 4>the Bank of England, which is sort of weird. For

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<v Speaker 4>a Canadian and he's been away from Canada ever since.

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<v Speaker 4>He has three passports now. He's a globalist in the

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<v Speaker 4>true sense of the term. He was on the board

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<v Speaker 4>of the World Economic Forum in Davos, that sort of

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<v Speaker 4>crypto government. He made a gazillion dollars as an oligarch.

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<v Speaker 4>He was the chair of Brookfield Asset Management, which is

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<v Speaker 4>like a mini Blackrock. And there's nothing wrong with being

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<v Speaker 4>a big shot investor at all, except for like Blackrock,

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<v Speaker 4>Brookfield had an eesg obsession, so they had all these

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<v Speaker 4>assets under management, and they basically compelled they ordered, They

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<v Speaker 4>demanded that any company they invest their investors' money in

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<v Speaker 4>subscribed to woke dei methodology, including a huge emphasis on

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<v Speaker 4>net zero anti energy ideology. He literally said he was

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<v Speaker 4>a fan of Greta Tunberg. This is supposedly a serious

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<v Speaker 4>global policy maker and investment manager, saying he was guided

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<v Speaker 4>by Greta Tunberg. He has come back to Canada. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think he actually lives in Canada. His wife lives

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<v Speaker 4>and works in New York. Brookfield Asset Management just moved

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<v Speaker 4>to New York. He's got three passports and again, I listen,

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<v Speaker 4>there are people who fly around the world all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>That's great, but they don't generally say I now want

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<v Speaker 4>my next thing to be Prime Minister of Canada. And

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<v Speaker 4>it happened immediately. Let me just give you one last detail.

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<v Speaker 4>in a parliamentary system through what's called a vote of

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<v Speaker 4>non confidence. So all the MPs would gather in the Parliament,

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<v Speaker 4>they would be a vote, and the government would fall

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<v Speaker 4>and they would be an election. The writing was on

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<v Speaker 4>the wall. He was doomed. So the minute before that

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<v Speaker 4>could happen, he ran to what's called the Governor General,

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<v Speaker 4>who is the King's representative in Canada, and said, please

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<v Speaker 4>dissolve the parliament immediately. Lock the doors immediately, and the

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<v Speaker 4>King's Governor General agreed. It would be like on the

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<v Speaker 4>eve of a vote to impeach a president if the

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<v Speaker 4>and just nan, I'm not letting you in. So for

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<v Speaker 4>three months Trudeau governed without parliament. In fact, parliament has

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<v Speaker 4>still not been recalled, and in this interregnum, the Liberal

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<v Speaker 4>Party had its leadership vote. But here's where it gets

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<v Speaker 4>super crazy. Four hundred thousand people signed up for the

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<v Speaker 4>Liberal Party in basically a primary, but two hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>fifty thousand of those votes were disqualified and we have

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<v Speaker 4>no explanation of why. And of the one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>fifty thousand who voted, they allowed children as young as

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<v Speaker 4>fourteen to vote, and they allowed foreign nationals to vote

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<v Speaker 4>as long as they were permanent residents. So most people

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<v Speaker 4>who were registered were not allowed, and amongst those allowed

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<v Speaker 4>were children and foreign nationals. And I won't get into

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<v Speaker 4>other bizarre things people being excluded. And anyhow, Mark Carney

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<v Speaker 4>has been installed, selected, appointed, parachuted in I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what words you would use. He's not even a member

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<v Speaker 4>of Parliament, which I can't even remember the last time

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<v Speaker 4>that happened. We have a Prime Minister who is not

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<v Speaker 4>allowed to sit in the Parliament because he hasn't doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>have a seat. I think that he hasn't even I

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<v Speaker 4>would be surprised if he's even been to every Canadian province.

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<v Speaker 4>We have just had a kind of soft coup and

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<v Speaker 4>final detail before I corkt. It's just it's incredible. In

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<v Speaker 4>recent elections, the Chinese Communist Party has had an exerted

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<v Speaker 4>effort to influence local elections in Canada. And this isn't

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<v Speaker 4>a rumor. This has been reported by Ceases. That's our

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<v Speaker 4>CIA and the Mounties, that's our FBI. They targeted eleven

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<v Speaker 4>districts and they really tried to destabilize those and they

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<v Speaker 4>bust in voters like it was quite an operation. And

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<v Speaker 4>in we had a judicial inquiry about this, and the

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<v Speaker 4>Chinese Communists have a huge interest in manipulating Canadian democracy.

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<v Speaker 4>And so all of a sudden, I look at those

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<v Speaker 4>four hundred thousand votes in the quarter million that were nuked,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was an all online voting process. Of course

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<v Speaker 4>it could be hacked. You have an illegitimate prime minister

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<v Speaker 4>selected illegitimately, when there's an illegitimate prorogation and dissolution in

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<v Speaker 4>the House. We are in the worst of times now.

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<v Speaker 4>There is a great Conservative leader in canadaamed Pierre Paul

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<v Speaker 4>of Unfortunately Donald Trump yank in the chain of Trudeau

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<v Speaker 4>and saying I want to annex you, I want to

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<v Speaker 4>make you the fifty first state that has hurt the

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<v Speaker 4>pride of a lot of Canadians who have recoiled against it.

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<v Speaker 4>So the unintended consequence of mocking Trudeau has been to

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<v Speaker 4>pump up the Liberals. Anyways, that's my update. Sorry for

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<v Speaker 4>going on for so long. That's the state of affairs

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<v Speaker 4>in Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's fascinating and appalling. And what I question is

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<v Speaker 2>why this guy. I mean, if you have this cabal

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<v Speaker 2>going to do their bidding exactly, wouldn't you at least

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<v Speaker 2>find somebody malleably who could dress up in the raiment

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<v Speaker 2>of Canada and politics and patriotism and the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>it and make him sound like he's one of the people,

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to finding somebody who is just a cardboard

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<v Speaker 2>cutout cliche of the transnational globalism. I mean, it's so blatant.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get why it was in.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he's campaigning as Captain Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>In two ways.

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<v Speaker 4>He is saying accurately that he was the head of

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<v Speaker 4>the Bank of Canada a couple of decades ago. That's true,

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<v Speaker 4>so he can claim, well, I worked for Canada, I

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<v Speaker 4>helped us guide us through economic storms. That's what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 4>And because Donald Trump is you know, Trump's got that banter,

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<v Speaker 4>He's got that Manhattan, you know style nicknaming people. Let

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<v Speaker 4>you know, he even did it to people who are

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<v Speaker 4>now his allies and friends. Little Marco Rubio, Lion, Ted Cruz,

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<v Speaker 4>Now these people are his allies. Trump's got that style

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<v Speaker 4>which is a little harsh to the Canadian ear, which

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<v Speaker 4>is maybe a little bit sensitive. And so when you

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<v Speaker 4>say to someone, hey, join the United States and be

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<v Speaker 4>a state, I mean for some people, they as a

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<v Speaker 4>thought exercise, they say, oh, that's a good idea. We'd

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<v Speaker 4>be wealthier, we'd be freer, we'd have an army. But

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<v Speaker 4>for many other people, it would be like going up

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<v Speaker 4>to a married woman and saying, ditch your husband and

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<v Speaker 4>run off with me. So it's an indecent proposal of sorts.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I guess if someone was contemplating a divorce,

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<v Speaker 4>or if they weren't married yet, if they would treat

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<v Speaker 4>it as a real proposal. But I think that's how

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<v Speaker 4>it landed emotionally, as a lot of Canadians say, how

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<v Speaker 4>dare you? Even though we have our flaws, we're not

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<v Speaker 4>just going to join you. And I know it was banter,

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<v Speaker 4>and I know it was Trump just yanking the chain

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<v Speaker 4>of Trudeau, but I think that that gave the Liberal

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<v Speaker 4>Party a new story to tell. We are the defenders

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<v Speaker 4>of Canada. Anyone who's not with us is an American shill.

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<v Speaker 4>And you're not for Trump, are you? Because Pierre Paul of,

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<v Speaker 4>the Conservative Leader of Canada, had a twenty point lead

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<v Speaker 4>over the Liberals. Now maybe it's a ten point lead.

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen some polls that put the Liberals ahead because

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<v Speaker 4>the Liberals are saying, we're captain Canada. If you're not

444
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<v Speaker 4>for us, you're a trader, they use that word, and

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<v Speaker 4>we must unite to stop the evil Trump. Wouldn't you

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<v Speaker 4>rather if you're a left wing Canadian, wouldn't you rather

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<v Speaker 4>run against Trump than run against a popular conservative Canadian?

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<v Speaker 4>So that's the situation in Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so, Ezra, it's Steve Hayward out in California, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel you're pain because we suffer under our version

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<v Speaker 1>of Justin Trudeau in the form of Gavin Newsom.

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<v Speaker 2>But the less said about that, the better.

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<v Speaker 4>Look.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to turn to your new book.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk a bit about this fifty first

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<v Speaker 1>state business, but I want to work into it in

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<v Speaker 1>a roundabout way through your new book, A Deal the

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<v Speaker 1>Century about Canada's oil sands. Can you give us a

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<v Speaker 1>thumbnail sketch of what you're on about here? And then

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<v Speaker 1>I got a follow up question about whether it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea depending on this and that, So go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure. I don't think all America. I don't think most

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<v Speaker 4>Americans would know that the third largest oil reserve country

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<v Speaker 4>in the world, after Saudi Radio and Venezuela is Canada.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's just, you know, a couple hundred miles north

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<v Speaker 4>of Montana in my home province of Alberta. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>sort of a new fangled technology. It's oil sand. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's literally sandy oil. So how did you get the

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<v Speaker 4>oil separated from the sand? It took them a while

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<v Speaker 4>to figure that out, but when they cracked that secret

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<v Speaker 4>about twenty five years ago, wow, it just And so

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<v Speaker 4>today Canada is the number one source of oil imports

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<v Speaker 4>into America, which is a wonderful thing because it's displacing

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<v Speaker 4>conflict oil from opek. I like to call the oil

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<v Speaker 4>sands ethical oil. If I was thinking, yes, if I

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<v Speaker 4>was thinking like a liberal, what are the ethics of oil? Well,

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<v Speaker 4>are you environmentally responsible, that's a good one. Do you

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<v Speaker 4>take the proceeds from your oil and you doing good

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<v Speaker 4>things with it? Or did you spend it on terrorism

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<v Speaker 4>and the military. That's a good question to ask Qatar

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<v Speaker 4>or Russia. Right, are you respectful of workers? Do you

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<v Speaker 4>pay them? Well, it's a good question to ask the

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<v Speaker 4>Petro states in the Gulf. And finally, do you respect

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<v Speaker 4>civil liberties? Canada is one of the few ethical oil

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<v Speaker 4>producers in the world, compared to the conflict oil of Opec. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>that's an argument that might win over some liberals, but

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<v Speaker 4>if you're in America first Republican, I think there's a

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<v Speaker 4>different way to phrase it. And the reason I'm talking

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<v Speaker 4>about oil is this. Donald Trump has repeatedly said we

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<v Speaker 4>have a huge trade deficit with Canada. That ain't fair. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>the reason there's that huge trade deficit is because of

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<v Speaker 4>the oil. And if you weren't buying Canadian oil, you'd

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<v Speaker 4>be buying it from Venezuela and Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, god forbid,

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<v Speaker 4>I ran none of those places are better options. So

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<v Speaker 4>Trump wants to put a tariff on the oil. Sized

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<v Speaker 4>trouble is, you know, you put a tariff on a

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<v Speaker 4>Honda factory in Mexico. You can move the Honda factory

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<v Speaker 4>to the States and you've got what Trump likes, American jobs,

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<v Speaker 4>American factory in the American market. But you can't. The

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<v Speaker 4>tariff is not going to move the oil. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>not going to get up and move down to the States.

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<v Speaker 4>So what's happening is that tariff and Trump has proposed

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<v Speaker 4>to ten percent tariff on oil. Well, all that's going

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<v Speaker 4>to do is add ten percent to the price of

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<v Speaker 4>the oil that is the feedstock for these American refineries.

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<v Speaker 4>One more thing about that American about that oil sense

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<v Speaker 4>who's actually in Alberta developing the oil scents.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Americans.

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<v Speaker 4>Imperial Oil that's the local subsidiary of Exxonomobile and Canadian companies.

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<v Speaker 4>Guess who owns them, Big US pension fund. So you

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<v Speaker 4>got Americans producing the oil, Americans refining the oil. American

512
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<v Speaker 4>American American map. The USMCA gives America preferential access. It's

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<v Speaker 4>as American as can be. Terriffing. It doesn't do any

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<v Speaker 4>of your America first ideas. So here was my pitch,

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<v Speaker 4>and I call it deal of the century. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>this new book I wrote, why do I call it

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<v Speaker 4>deal of the century? Because Trump thinks like a real

518
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<v Speaker 4>estate man. He says he wants to acquire Greenland. I

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<v Speaker 4>can see why if you look at the map. He's

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<v Speaker 4>talking about Panama. That's smart. Well, Canada is the oil

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<v Speaker 4>sands is a bigger deal than either of those times

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<v Speaker 4>ten because there's one hundred and seventy billion barrels of

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<v Speaker 4>ethical oil just sitting there. And I did the math.

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<v Speaker 4>If you double the production, double the annual production of

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<v Speaker 4>the oil sands, which Alberta, their premier, says she wants

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<v Speaker 4>to do. And if America bought that, it would displace

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<v Speaker 4>all of the OPEC oil that America buys. And what's

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<v Speaker 4>the value of that fifty years at approximately seventy seventy

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<v Speaker 4>five bucks of barrels? A little bit less than that.

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<v Speaker 4>Now that's a thirteen trillion dollar deal. But the best

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<v Speaker 4>part is America is no longer beholden to the Persian Gulf.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know that the.

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<v Speaker 4>Fifth Fleet, the United States fifth Fleet, costs about fifty

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<v Speaker 4>billion dollars a year just to patrol the Persian Sea. Lings,

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, it's like you have agreed to be the

536
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<v Speaker 4>fifty billion dollar year Brinks truck to let the Saudis

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<v Speaker 4>and the Bahrainis and the Amoradis sell their oil. You're

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<v Speaker 4>the global cop if you didn't have to do that,

539
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<v Speaker 4>Like you could still mess around in the Middle East

540
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<v Speaker 4>if you want to, but now you don't have to.

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<v Speaker 4>Cazerill's coming down through the Keystone XL pipeline and others.

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<v Speaker 4>So here's the big win, and I'm trying to phrase

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<v Speaker 4>it as an America first thing right Number one, You

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<v Speaker 4>get all the good stuff from Canada without having to

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<v Speaker 4>have the side effects. You don't need a huge Democrat

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<v Speaker 4>voting electoral college. You know, you don't need the French

547
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<v Speaker 4>bilingualist like you want to acquire Canada, really you want

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<v Speaker 4>another Democrat, you know, two more Democrat cenaters. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think you do. How about take the good stuff and

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<v Speaker 4>when and if you're really going to pay Canada ten

551
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<v Speaker 4>thirteen whatever trillion dollars over fifty years, Well, now you

552
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<v Speaker 4>got something to trade. And now you can say, hey, Canada,

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<v Speaker 4>you got to reinvest in your military. Now you got

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<v Speaker 4>to defend the ARC to with us. You got to

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<v Speaker 4>get those f thirty fives going. No more messing around

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<v Speaker 4>and by the way, can you let our dairy in

557
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<v Speaker 4>which Canadians would want It would lower prices. And by

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<v Speaker 4>the way, how come we can't have American banks on

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<v Speaker 4>your main streets offering mortgages. You're not forced to get

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<v Speaker 4>a mortgage from an American bank, but can we please

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<v Speaker 4>at least be allowed to sell them. So Trump's demands

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<v Speaker 4>are actually reasonable. And if Trump says, I'll buy all

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<v Speaker 4>your oil. And by the way, I hope Trump likes

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<v Speaker 4>this idea because you know who's been sniffing around the

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<v Speaker 4>albert oil.

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<v Speaker 2>Sands, well, the Chinese, right, the Chinese.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, they actually bought an oil sands company about

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen years ago. They would buy it all if they could.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, I think. So I love the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been following the oil sands story for a long

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<v Speaker 1>time and I'm sure, as you know, if there's any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of oil.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you think environmentalists hate.

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<v Speaker 1>Fracking, they really hate the oil sands in Canada. And

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<v Speaker 1>never mind of what they think about as accurate or not,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't matter. Would it has the bonus of freaking

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<v Speaker 1>them out and outraging them even more. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>an argument against making Canada the fifty first state. If

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Alberta and I'm the oil sands owners, the last

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<v Speaker 1>thing I want is to be under the regulatory jurisdiction

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States, because actually, you know, Alberta has

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<v Speaker 1>a much more permissive regulatory structure, which is why the

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<v Speaker 1>industry has flourished there. So I mean, Alberta has always

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<v Speaker 1>struck me as the Texas of Canada, the one province

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<v Speaker 1>that might really like to join the United States, except

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<v Speaker 1>that R. E. P A, even under Trump, would screw

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<v Speaker 1>it all up. So that's one argument against the union idea. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I love the idea. You said one other thing, though,

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<v Speaker 1>that's on my mind, which is quite aside from the

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<v Speaker 1>merits of integrating. What's the old Bernard Shaw line at

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<v Speaker 1>American England or two nations divided by a common language.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just as true of Canada, not so much, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a in a boot butt of the cultural differences are

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<v Speaker 1>much larger than a lot of people. And as you

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<v Speaker 1>point out, you're likely to get two Democratic senators if

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<v Speaker 1>it was just one state, but also forty houseeed or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, because Canada is the size of Californian

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<v Speaker 1>population wise. And I'm looking at this thinking just the

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<v Speaker 1>politics of it are terrible from a Republican point of view.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what Trump is thinking.

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<v Speaker 4>Well I know what Trump was thinking because Senator Marco

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<v Speaker 4>Rubio told us he told Captain Herridge, if I'm saying

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<v Speaker 4>her name right, yeah, she asked him where did this

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<v Speaker 4>whole Canada fifty first state thing come from? And Marco

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<v Speaker 4>Rubio said this. He said, when Justin Trudeau flew down

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<v Speaker 4>to Mara Lago a couple months ago, Trump asked Trudeau,

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<v Speaker 4>what would happen if we zeroed out our trade deficit?

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<v Speaker 4>And Trudeau, who's sort of stupid and has never negotiated

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<v Speaker 4>anything in his life, blurted out, well, that would be

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<v Speaker 4>the end of Canada. If you watch that interview between

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<v Speaker 4>Marco Rubio and Catherine Herridge, Rubio, I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 4>very plausible the way he described it. Trump said, what

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<v Speaker 4>happens if we zero things out? Trudeau said, it's the

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<v Speaker 4>end of Canada, which is a crazy thing to say.

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, it's not true. Second of all, what

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<v Speaker 4>you've just told Trump is your existential dread of what

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<v Speaker 4>could happen, and now he knows where to poke you like,

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<v Speaker 4>this is the master of giving people mean nicknames. So

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<v Speaker 4>he Trump immediately said, oh, well, you should become the

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<v Speaker 4>fifty first state. And Trudeau's face I could just imagine

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<v Speaker 4>when he realized the weapony. So that's where it came from.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a taunt. It's like little rocket Man, or it's

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<v Speaker 4>like any of his other tweets, and Trump is here's

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<v Speaker 4>I re read parts of Art of the Deal, and

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<v Speaker 4>I really recommend that to people if you want to

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<v Speaker 4>understand what Trump's doing with these tariffs. He talks about hyperbole,

627
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<v Speaker 4>he talks about knocking the other guy off balance, and

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<v Speaker 4>of course that's what he's doing. But here's what Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>I think is missing. Trump is used to real estate

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<v Speaker 4>deals where the other side wants it badly, and Trump

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<v Speaker 4>knows you've got to be able to walk away. That's

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<v Speaker 4>half of your strength. But what happens, and this goes

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<v Speaker 4>back to your very first question to me, what happens

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<v Speaker 4>when the guy on the other side, the guy on

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<v Speaker 4>the Canadian side, has the moral hazard of wanting the

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<v Speaker 4>negotiation to fail. In fact, a successful negotiation between the

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<v Speaker 4>Liberals in Canada and Trump would be terrible for the

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<v Speaker 4>Liberals because then you would remove the demon, the risk,

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00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:29.079
<v Speaker 4>the ogre, the threat. There is no deal that Trump

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<v Speaker 4>could offer the Liberals that they would accept. They flipped

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<v Speaker 4>the tables on them because they need to fight against them.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, perversely, the more damaging to Canada the fight is,

643
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<v Speaker 4>the more the Liberals can say, you see, and by

644
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<v Speaker 4>the way, that also hides their own economic mismanagement. So

645
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<v Speaker 4>Trump thinks he's in a deal where the other guy

646
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<v Speaker 4>has no cards. He uses that phrase a lot. Hey Zelenski,

647
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<v Speaker 4>you have no cards. And it's true, it's true, it's true.

648
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<v Speaker 4>But what happens if the other guy has a weird strategy,

649
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<v Speaker 4>a comic Kazi strategy that says, I want Trump to

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<v Speaker 4>smash Canada like a bowl of eggs because I need

651
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<v Speaker 4>that victim hood to run and beat this Pierre Poulv.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I don't think Trump quite grocks, because I

653
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<v Speaker 4>don't think he pays very close attention to Canada, and

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<v Speaker 4>he has actually, contrary to his own instincts, strengthened the

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<v Speaker 4>Liberals up here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm something of an expert on Canada myself, because twice

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<v Speaker 2>a year in Cancun and I have conversations with people

658
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<v Speaker 2>from Canada. I love to go down there, and what

659
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<v Speaker 2>a cross section there they are. I mean, I've really

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<v Speaker 2>had fascinating conversations about economies in Canada. But one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that people keep avoiding and dancing around, perhaps

662
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<v Speaker 2>because they're a Canadian, is the subject of demographic shifts

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<v Speaker 2>and change in Canada. And I don't mean to put

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<v Speaker 2>a bowl around Steve's questions about the oil, but we

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<v Speaker 2>have you for a limited time, and I am curious

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<v Speaker 2>exactly as to how Canada is or not with what

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<v Speaker 2>some perceived to be a shift and it's demographic makeup,

668
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<v Speaker 2>or if it's just no big thing and everybody's whistling

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<v Speaker 2>and moving along and heal Canada and use your maple

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<v Speaker 2>syrup and whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>That is, in my opinion, the number one issue in Canada.

672
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<v Speaker 4>Justin Trudeau has raised the immigration and temporary migrant workers

673
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<v Speaker 4>temporary students to two million people per year legally and proportionately,

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<v Speaker 4>that would be like eighteen million a year in the US.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just the legal that's not even illegal. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>the problem we have is and if you come to Toronto,

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00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.960
<v Speaker 4>you'll say, am I in Toronto? There are four point

678
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<v Speaker 4>nine million people in our country on temporary permits that

679
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<v Speaker 4>expire at the end of this year. That's more than

680
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<v Speaker 4>ten percent of the population. You can see it with

681
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:58.920
<v Speaker 4>your eyes. Every issue is exacerbated. Obviously, housing prices, especially

682
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<v Speaker 4>in the big cities, are beyond the reach of ordinary people.

683
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<v Speaker 4>The average home in Toronto and Montreal is more than

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<v Speaker 4>one million dollars. Inflation of other goods, of course, energy costs.

685
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<v Speaker 4>We've got a carbon tax. And of course what happens

686
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<v Speaker 4>when you bring in hundreds of thousands of migrant workers,

687
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<v Speaker 4>you depress wages. So Canadians have wages being depressed, housing

688
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:32.320
<v Speaker 4>prices being inflated, inflation everywhere. There's one million foreign nationals

689
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<v Speaker 4>who claim to be international students. There aren't even one

690
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<v Speaker 4>million Canadian students in university. There are more foreigners. And

691
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<v Speaker 4>by the way, they come here as students, they never

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<v Speaker 4>even go to a school. They're fake schools set up

693
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<v Speaker 4>in strip malls, you know, the local college. They're so

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<v Speaker 4>it is so outrageous. A huge effect is economic. Of course,

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<v Speaker 4>we have a welfare state and welfare state medicine. You

696
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<v Speaker 4>can imagine what that does. These people in the main

697
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<v Speaker 4>come from low trust societies, so they discover the Canadian

698
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<v Speaker 4>tradition of food banks, Well, they just do their weekly

699
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:09.960
<v Speaker 4>shopping at food banks. Now there's no such thing as

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<v Speaker 4>a food bank in Canada. In fact, some food banks

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<v Speaker 4>now say no foreign students allowed because they just, oh,

702
00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:20.360
<v Speaker 4>these suckers are giving away free food. I don't need

703
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<v Speaker 4>to shop like it's And then you have the extreme

704
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<v Speaker 4>side of that, where you have pro Hamas extremists like

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<v Speaker 4>you had in Columbia, not just in Campton universities, but

706
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<v Speaker 4>on the streets in Jewish neighborhoods. In Montreal there was

707
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:39.920
<v Speaker 4>a Hamas riot. So every and Trudeau is doing this

708
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<v Speaker 4>on purpose, and his successor, Mark Carney is doing the

709
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:48.079
<v Speaker 4>same thing. They can count there are now two million

710
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:52.360
<v Speaker 4>Muslims in Canada compared to four hundred thousand Jews. So

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<v Speaker 4>do the math.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Ezra, I'm will give you a broad last question here.

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<v Speaker 1>When I first heard this Trump idea of making Canada

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty first state, well, the first things I did

715
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<v Speaker 1>was dust off my shelf because I'm an academic, a

716
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<v Speaker 1>thirty five year old book Continental Divide by Seymour and

717
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:12.559
<v Speaker 1>Martin Lipsitt, very distinguished American political scientists, Sally deceased now,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I'm sort of aware of some of

719
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<v Speaker 1>the cultural and political differences between the US and Canada,

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<v Speaker 1>and the book really alerted me to how deep and

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<v Speaker 1>profound they really are. I think Americans really don't pay

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<v Speaker 1>much attention to Canada. Sorry, not much except maybe during

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<v Speaker 1>hockey season. And Canadians, I mean, you know, like James

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<v Speaker 1>when I you know, my visits to Canada, mostly British Columbia,

725
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:35.559
<v Speaker 1>but also other Canadians. I know there's a lot of

726
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:38.679
<v Speaker 1>deep pride in the country, as there should be, and

727
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<v Speaker 1>while not anti American, although there's some of that everywhere,

728
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<v Speaker 1>but while not anti American, I think there is I think,

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00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:47.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe justly a sense of wounded pride that America sort

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<v Speaker 1>of regards Canada with benign neglect or to stain or

731
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<v Speaker 1>make funny about people saying a boot and so forth.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know what's your sense of I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned politically this has reinvigorated the Liberal Party in

734
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<v Speaker 1>a foolish, unintended consequence. But to what extent is this,

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<v Speaker 1>in an odd way, maybe helpful to some of the

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<v Speaker 1>problems you just mentioned, In other words, reinvigorating some sense

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<v Speaker 1>of Canadian pride and nationalism and therefore resistance to some

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<v Speaker 1>of these adverse transit point two.

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<v Speaker 4>You know it's funny because under Justin Trudeau, our founding

740
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<v Speaker 4>Prime Minister, Sir Johnny McDonald was stripped off the ten

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<v Speaker 4>dollar bill. Statues of him were put either torn down

742
00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:31.960
<v Speaker 4>or put in wooden coffins. Our national anthem lyrics were

743
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:35.920
<v Speaker 4>changed by Trudeau. Our passport, all the imagery in the

744
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:41.400
<v Speaker 4>passport was stripped. Trudeau denounced Canada as a genocidal project,

745
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:43.760
<v Speaker 4>and he said the genocide was continuing. He told The

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<v Speaker 4>New York Times in his first year of government that

747
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:51.239
<v Speaker 4>Canada was a post national state with no core values.

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<v Speaker 4>During the trucker convoy, this symbol of the truckers appropriated for

749
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<v Speaker 4>their flag was the Canadian flag. They flew to the

750
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<v Speaker 4>Canadian flag, they sang the Canadian anthem, and those were

751
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<v Speaker 4>demonized as right wing hate symbols, woke ideology, saying the

752
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:09.039
<v Speaker 4>Canada which was the end of the underground railroad, No,

753
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<v Speaker 4>we're the racist ones. They actually had Black lives matter

754
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:16.159
<v Speaker 4>up here. We were the place where black people fled

755
00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:18.519
<v Speaker 4>to get away from slavery. So we had this whole

756
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<v Speaker 4>woke denaturing of Canada, and in the last sixty days

757
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<v Speaker 4>suddenly The people who hate Canada and told us it

758
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<v Speaker 4>was a sin to be Canadian are now saying raw

759
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<v Speaker 4>rock passing the Canadian flag, So it's all fake. It's

760
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<v Speaker 4>all fake. The man with three passports, who has returned

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<v Speaker 4>to grace us with his leadership, is now saying he's

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<v Speaker 4>a Canadian. No, he's not. He hasn't lived in Canada

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<v Speaker 4>for years, so it's a lie. Just In Trudeau went

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<v Speaker 4>on Anderson Cooper show a couple months ago, and Anderson

765
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<v Speaker 4>Cooper said, what is a Canadian? That's a good question.

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<v Speaker 4>Imagine the man who's been Prime minister for nine years answering,

767
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<v Speaker 4>we're not American. That's your answer a negative, and it's

768
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<v Speaker 4>an insulting negative. That's like saying, who are you on?

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<v Speaker 2>Not you.

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<v Speaker 4>There's an arrogance too. We have a National bookstore and

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<v Speaker 4>their chain motto is the world needs more Canada. This

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<v Speaker 4>sort of a patronizing, condescending and the thing is, in

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<v Speaker 4>a way Trump exposed that. He said we'll swap your

774
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<v Speaker 4>Canadian minibucks for our real dollars one to one, Yeah,

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00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:24.280
<v Speaker 4>reminding us that we're poor up here. He said, we'll

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<v Speaker 4>defend you, unlike your undefended North Yeah. That's sort of

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<v Speaker 4>a thing, and so that it did hurt partly because

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<v Speaker 4>it's an indecent proposal to ask Canadians to abandon their loyalty,

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<v Speaker 4>which and by the way, forty percent of young people

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<v Speaker 4>in one poll that I saw young men in Western Canada,

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<v Speaker 4>forty percent of them said I'm up for that. Why

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<v Speaker 4>because they can't make a go of it in Canada,

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<v Speaker 4>and they also like Donald Trump's pride and nationalism. So,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, his indecent proposal has some takers, but

785
00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:58.960
<v Speaker 4>for most Canadians, they're saying that's a little bit too

786
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<v Speaker 4>much and that Trump kutzba, which which Trump supporters love.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it, but I can also see how it

788
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:09.960
<v Speaker 4>hurts people's feelings. And the liberals are so malleable that

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<v Speaker 4>suddenly they've you know, decided that they're patriotic. They're not patriotic,

790
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<v Speaker 4>they're not reducing that they're bringing in migrants from Gaza.

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<v Speaker 2>That's insane.

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<v Speaker 4>So, oh, believe you me. There's no real Canadian pride

793
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<v Speaker 4>going on, just symbolism and jingoism just to get through

794
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:31.079
<v Speaker 4>this moment against Donald Trump. I hope it doesn't work,

795
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<v Speaker 4>But the polls are narrowing.

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<v Speaker 2>When Canadian liberals start condemning church burnings, then you'll know

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<v Speaker 2>that they're really, really, you know, feigning an appeal to

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<v Speaker 2>the population. If Trump had been actually the master of

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<v Speaker 2>the the insult nickname, though, I think he would have

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<v Speaker 2>started referring to Trudeau as Castro junior. Well he did

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<v Speaker 2>allude to Oh, did him?

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<v Speaker 4>He did?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>He knows his stuff, and he actually knew Margaret Trudeau

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<v Speaker 4>in her wild child days. That's Justin Trudeau's mom. He

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<v Speaker 4>refers to her in one of his books. I can't

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<v Speaker 4>remember the title. It's not Out of the Deal, It's

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00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:11.079
<v Speaker 4>another one of his books. How she I mean? Justin

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<v Speaker 4>Trudeau is gone now literally today was his last day,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think the only saving grace for his nine

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<v Speaker 4>years would he was sort of dumb, like he had

812
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<v Speaker 4>a high emotional EQ like he was very good at

813
00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:29.440
<v Speaker 4>being friendly and relating to people, but he was sort

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<v Speaker 4>of dumb when it came to policy and sort of lazy.

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<v Speaker 4>So there were a lot of terrible things he planned

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<v Speaker 4>that didn't get done. He planned one of the worst

817
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<v Speaker 4>censorship regimes known in the world, called the Online Harms Act,

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<v Speaker 4>that would have included life in prison for a hate

819
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<v Speaker 4>crime but there is no life in prison in Canada

820
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:49.599
<v Speaker 4>for anything, not even for murder. But they would have

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<v Speaker 4>been for hate. They would have had all that. He

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<v Speaker 4>would have established three new censorship bureaus. The only reason

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<v Speaker 4>we were spared those, by the way, is because of

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<v Speaker 4>his dis of Parliament to save his skin. So if

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<v Speaker 4>Trudeau had been more industrious and got these bills through earlier,

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<v Speaker 4>he would have done a lot more damage. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>believe me, he's done a lot of damage. And immigration

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<v Speaker 4>is a bell that I don't know if you can

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<v Speaker 4>unring it. But Canada is a much weaker country now

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<v Speaker 4>than when Trudeau took it over. One of the reasons

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<v Speaker 4>he juiced immigration so much was to hide the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that we are actually in a recession on a per

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<v Speaker 4>capita basis. We're getting poor every year per capita. The

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<v Speaker 4>only way to hide that is to bring in five

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<v Speaker 4>percent of your population every year.

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<v Speaker 2>That's insane.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no country in the world that does that well.

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<v Speaker 2>At least you've space to put them, given the unoccupied

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<v Speaker 2>nature of vast sauaws of the country. But no, I

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<v Speaker 2>want Canada to thrive. I want Canada to be proud

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<v Speaker 2>of Canada. I want Canada to be a partner, and

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<v Speaker 2>I hate what's going on in both of the government

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<v Speaker 2>and the relationships between the two, because it's like watching

844
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<v Speaker 2>your parents fight. Don't please make up and be Everything

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<v Speaker 2>will be well, Hey, folks. Deal of the Century is

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<v Speaker 2>what it's called Deal of the Century, the America first

847
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<v Speaker 2>plan for Canada's oil sands. That's as it was, the latest,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course you can get him at Rebel News

849
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<v Speaker 2>and elsewhere. We enjoy your work and we thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for coming on this the Ricochete podcast, and good luck.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks, great to see you guys again.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye bye. So you know, when I was mentioning the

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<v Speaker 2>the church burnings in Canada, which seemed to be a

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<v Speaker 2>consequence of people being angry at the church for all

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<v Speaker 2>of the native schools and the desks that they attended,

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<v Speaker 2>if I recall correctly, they did a lot of soundings

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<v Speaker 2>with the ultracenter of the ground and they couldn't turn

858
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<v Speaker 2>up these mass graves. You read these stories even.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, no, it turned out to be a complete hoax,

860
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<v Speaker 1>kind of like all the church burnings that Bill Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>said he remembered from his childhood, when the historical records

862
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<v Speaker 1>show there were none right anywhere around where he lived.

863
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<v Speaker 1>But this is uh, you know, this is a favorite. Well, look,

864
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<v Speaker 1>the Left relies on the hoax as much of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill, do you actually remember specifically the details of the

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Clinton years, because I do. I was there. And

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<v Speaker 2>when people start to paint the nineties with the nostalgic

868
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<v Speaker 2>brush that people painted the seventies with in the night,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, inevitably every era gets sort of dipped in candy.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was great in the suite before the awful

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874
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<v Speaker 2>course dwell on things. But you know what, aging, the

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<v Speaker 2>aging process is not our friend. It can do things

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<v Speaker 2>for sponsoring this the Ricochet podcast. Before we go, well,

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<v Speaker 2>where do we end here? Apparently there was a CR.

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<v Speaker 2>They always call it a CR, like everybody knows what

901
00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:04.239
<v Speaker 2>that is, now, yeah, do we? Well?

902
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<v Speaker 1>No, it's when you don't pass a budget like you're

903
00:48:06.199 --> 00:48:08.400
<v Speaker 1>supposed to in which we haven't been doing for almost

904
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:11.159
<v Speaker 1>fifty years now, passing a budget properly the way the

905
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:12.079
<v Speaker 1>law says we should.

906
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:13.480
<v Speaker 2>So they just say we.

907
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<v Speaker 1>Call it an omnibus continuing resolution, which means just keep

908
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:20.400
<v Speaker 1>the government going at current levels. Except these things are

909
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:22.400
<v Speaker 1>always cobbled together in the middle of the night. Theyre

910
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:25.280
<v Speaker 1>always sliped some extra things and new spending in and

911
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Republicans have sometimes tried to block it, and then Republicans,

912
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:31.639
<v Speaker 1>when they have a majority, had to rely on Democratic.

913
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<v Speaker 2>Votes to pass it.

914
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<v Speaker 1>So they finally got wise to this game and passed

915
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<v Speaker 1>a Republican only version, and that has put the Democrats

916
00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:41.159
<v Speaker 1>in a panic because it's got some spending cuts in it.

917
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<v Speaker 1>I think they're modest, but still the arrows in the

918
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<v Speaker 1>right direction and the Democrats so it's a pause here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, political sciences will tell you that the way

920
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<v Speaker 1>you can tell there's a real tectonic shift in politics

921
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:54.599
<v Speaker 1>going on is not when you change your own party,

922
00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:57.239
<v Speaker 1>as Trump is done, but when you compel the other

923
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<v Speaker 1>party to move your direction. Reagan did that to the

924
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<v Speaker 1>Democrats in the eighties. Margaret Thatcher made labor moderate and

925
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<v Speaker 1>so forth. Well, suddenly Senate Democrats were thinking all week

926
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<v Speaker 1>we're going to borrow the favorite feudal tactic of Republicans

927
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<v Speaker 1>and shut down the government. Apparently they have already collapsed

928
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<v Speaker 1>on this, because I think there are enough of senators

929
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<v Speaker 1>who say this is insane. And by the way, would

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<v Speaker 1>you like to be as you know, these government shutdowns,

931
00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:26.719
<v Speaker 1>non essential personnel stay home. Do you want to be

932
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<v Speaker 1>designated as a non essential personnel in the age or.

933
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<v Speaker 2>The moment of Doge? I don't think so.

934
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<v Speaker 1>I think the Democrat Apparently, all the rumors are that

935
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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic senators met in the caucus midweek and they

936
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<v Speaker 1>were yelling and screaming at each other so loud you

937
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<v Speaker 1>could hear it out in the hallway. So you know, again,

938
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<v Speaker 1>this is Trump genius and Republican rare Republican competence in Congress.

939
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<v Speaker 1>They're actually going to pass something that moves the ball

940
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<v Speaker 1>down the field in our direction and divide the Democrats

941
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<v Speaker 1>along the way. And that's just lots of fun. I

942
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<v Speaker 1>would be happier if thecr had to be printed out

943
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<v Speaker 1>in everything, A person who voted on it had to

944
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<v Speaker 1>initial the page, every single page. And now with an

945
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<v Speaker 1>autopen Biden style. I mean, because I don't think they're

946
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<v Speaker 1>even at the point now. I mean, when you when

947
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<v Speaker 1>you sign an eu LA on your computer, all they

948
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<v Speaker 1>ask is that you scroll to the end. You know,

949
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<v Speaker 1>the program, the texts that you've scrolled to.

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<v Speaker 2>The end, you clicked the box, and you get accept

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<v Speaker 2>But I would like something just to just to know

952
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<v Speaker 2>that they had to go through the gruesome process of

953
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<v Speaker 2>at least acknowledging the length and depth of these things.

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<v Speaker 2>On the other hand, one of the things we like

955
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<v Speaker 2>about Doge and the new administration is their ability to

956
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<v Speaker 2>prune and remove, to make things less complex and less burdensome.

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<v Speaker 2>The headline you're going to see next week, if not already,

958
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<v Speaker 2>of course, is that the Trump administration proposes an increase

959
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<v Speaker 2>in the amount of mercury in the air. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm absolutely certain that's what it is. And what that

961
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<v Speaker 2>would be is the administration saying, okay, there's a regulation

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<v Speaker 2>here that says the acceptable parts per million in the

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<v Speaker 2>air or parts per billion is a point zero zero

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<v Speaker 2>zero zero zero zero zer one, and we're going to

965
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<v Speaker 2>make that point zero zero zero zero zero zero two negligible,

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<v Speaker 2>non noticeable nominally through nothing of the sort, but making

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<v Speaker 2>a change that doesn't crimp. Shall we say this, that

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<v Speaker 2>or the other thing in the economy that'll be the

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<v Speaker 2>main headline. It comes from Zelden the EPA tweeting out.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he wrote a Wall Street Journal article about it,

971
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<v Speaker 2>but I found it out about it in a tweet

972
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<v Speaker 2>thread where he discussed thirteen or fourteen consequential regulatory rollbacks

973
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<v Speaker 2>that will help energy production and prosperity. So essentially moving

974
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<v Speaker 2>us back to twenty twenty, when you know, the Biden

975
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<v Speaker 2>administration came in and apparently in twenty twenty this was

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<v Speaker 2>a dystopian mercury Field hell hole out of the you know,

977
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<v Speaker 2>the dark satanic mills belching their poison into the air

978
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<v Speaker 2>all around the country. So if we roll back to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty, I guess we'll have to hope that we

980
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<v Speaker 2>can survive. I'd like to roll it back a little

981
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<v Speaker 2>bit more somewhere between ironized Cody, you know, having a

982
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<v Speaker 2>fake tear and maybe Bill Clinton juice in the caffe standards.

983
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but there's all there are so many

984
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<v Speaker 2>regulatory boat anchors that are draped around the economy, and

985
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<v Speaker 2>so many of them come from the EPA and regulations

986
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<v Speaker 2>that have been not exactly codified in law, but but

987
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<v Speaker 2>somehow summoned into existence by the bureaucrats. So what do

988
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:20.719
<v Speaker 2>you think about these little steps here? I mean, it's

989
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<v Speaker 2>it's it's EV mandates going the way of I love

990
00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:27.800
<v Speaker 2>how the people who say that Trump is doing what

991
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<v Speaker 2>he's doing to make money for his rich, technocratic buddy Elon,

992
00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:35.559
<v Speaker 2>then turns around and does away with EV mandates. Isn't

993
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:40.159
<v Speaker 2>that sort of counter to the other. Yes, and not really.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean what the Biden administration was doing was heavily

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<v Speaker 1>subsidizing Elon's competitors. Now Elon built his company on some subsidies,

996
00:52:46.679 --> 00:52:49.719
<v Speaker 1>but it's become profitable and the leading maker in the world.

997
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<v Speaker 1>And Musk actually said, I think even before the election

998
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<v Speaker 1>that getting rid of the mandates and subsidies would help

999
00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:57.639
<v Speaker 1>his company. So it works either way. I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a wonderful irony. I do think there broadly, what

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<v Speaker 1>Zeldon has announced is something really fundamental. It's not just

1002
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<v Speaker 1>tweaking some regulations here there, or even rolling them back,

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<v Speaker 1>but the two big ones. And the problem is, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a walk and so I don't want to be wonky

1005
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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast because it does walk away well just briefly.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the two things he's going after is, first,

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<v Speaker 1>a thing called the Endangerment Finding and what essentially is

1008
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<v Speaker 1>what the Obama EPA used to say, Oh co. Two,

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff that each human being breathes out eight hundred

1010
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<v Speaker 1>pounds worth a year is a dangerous health hazard, and

1011
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:32.159
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna try and roll that back. And they've done

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<v Speaker 1>some I know a bit of the background. They've done

1013
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:37.079
<v Speaker 1>careful legal work to make this stick, and that will

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<v Speaker 1>kick the props out from under the EPA trying to

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<v Speaker 1>nationalize the electric utility industry, which is what Obama tried

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<v Speaker 1>to do and Biden was trying to do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>The other one is and this gets boring in a hurry,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I won't. I'll get rid of it in

1019
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<v Speaker 1>a hurry. They're going to redo the cost of benefit

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<v Speaker 1>analysis of prospective global warming, and it's called the social

1021
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<v Speaker 1>cost of carbon And as I say, I won't bore

1022
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<v Speaker 1>listeners except to say we'll do this. The Biden EPA

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<v Speaker 1>said that the present value of future climate damages in

1024
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<v Speaker 1>economic terms is one hundred and fifty dollars a ton.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was the figure maybe a little higher.

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<v Speaker 1>Now almost nobody ever says what is the social benefit

1027
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<v Speaker 1>of fossil fuel use? And the one really credibly economist

1028
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<v Speaker 1>is a Dutch guy named Richard Tol who's very well respected.

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<v Speaker 2>In environmental economics.

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<v Speaker 1>He did a calculation a few years ago said the

1031
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<v Speaker 1>social benefits of our fossil fuel use is at least

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred dollars a ton.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's probably much higher.

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<v Speaker 1>And all these this is economic flim flamm and mumbo jumbo,

1035
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<v Speaker 1>and he changed the assumptions, you get different numbers. But

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is the benefits of fossil fuels are overwhelmingly positive.

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<v Speaker 1>And no one knows this better than my friend, the

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<v Speaker 1>new Secretary of Energy, Chris Wright. And he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be delivering hammer blows to all this stuff, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be fun to watch. I think the show

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<v Speaker 1>was almost over for the climatistas, as I like to

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<v Speaker 1>call them.

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<v Speaker 2>It maybe you know, wankree to you, and it may

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<v Speaker 2>sound born, but it's actually important to every single little

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<v Speaker 2>aspect of the economy if we're coming up with social

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<v Speaker 2>goods and the rest of it. In declaring car, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're right. I mean, it's as we were.

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<v Speaker 2>It always polls low. It's never up there in the

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<v Speaker 2>top five or seven issues that people are particularly cared about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's something that people not and pay lip service do,

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<v Speaker 2>but then live there like precisely if they do. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very concerned about the climate. I'm getting on a plane tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Aren't there mutual? Isn't there some sort of consistency? No,

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<v Speaker 2>there isn't because I pay carbon credits and I planted,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. No, it will seem to be one of

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<v Speaker 2>those fevers from which we awoke later at home. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's that, I mean. But then again, there are people

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<v Speaker 2>who I'm sure blame Elon for a great deal of

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<v Speaker 2>carbon dumping into the atmosphere, because of course it is

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<v Speaker 2>space X rockets, and those people are probably at this

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<v Speaker 2>very moment demanding that he turned them into electric vehicles somehow, somehow.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if we can just develop a start rec

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<v Speaker 2>warp factor and you know, the the the replicators, all

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<v Speaker 2>will be well. All is now over because we come

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<v Speaker 2>to the end of the podcast and we release you

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<v Speaker 2>now to your life to listen to something else. Will

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<v Speaker 2>it be as interesting and as as wonk filled as

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<v Speaker 2>as we have given you I don't think so that's

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<v Speaker 2>why you come back week after week. But you have

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<v Speaker 2>not left us a review on the Apple podcast thing,

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<v Speaker 2>have you yet? No? No, I mean I've been begging

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<v Speaker 2>you for seven hundred and thirty two episodes. Please do

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<v Speaker 2>it now so I can stop cavetching and covelling on't you.

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<v Speaker 2>You also might want to avail yourself with the fine

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<v Speaker 2>products of neuro Hacker and bamboo hr our sponsors. Support

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<v Speaker 2>them for supporting us. And of course, of course I

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<v Speaker 2>leave this for last because it's have to say it

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<v Speaker 2>week after week. If you would just go over to

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<v Speaker 2>ricochet dot com. Yeah, I know that place, and go

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<v Speaker 2>check out the member feed. Oh what's that You can't

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<v Speaker 2>because you're not a member. Well, you know, sign up

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<v Speaker 2>and for a few little coins. It's just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you have access to the same civil center, right community

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<v Speaker 2>you've been looking for all your days on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>Stick around. Of course, you can go to the comments

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<v Speaker 2>at Ricochet and add your thoughts if you are indeed

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<v Speaker 2>a member, and I'll see you this weekend at the Diner,

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<v Speaker 2>which is also held on the Ricochet Audio Network. That's right,

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<v Speaker 2>many podcasts, many topics, many great Voices and many more

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<v Speaker 2>podcasts to come too, So we'll see you next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope Charlie's with us, Steven, hope you're with us as well,

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll see everybody in the comments at Ricochet four

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<v Speaker 2>point zero. Bye bye bye, James Ricochet Join the conversation