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Speaker 1: You know, this is another reason why Canada the United

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States can't unify, because you know you have these problems right,

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it's incompatible technical issues. Ask not what your country can

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do for you, Ask what you can do for your country.

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Mister garbach Off, tear down this wall.

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Speaker 2: It's the Ricochet Podcast. I'm James Willings, joined by Steven

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Hayward and we're going to be talking to ezra Levant

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Speaker 3: This may be my last day here in this office,

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but I will always be boldly and unapologetically Canadian. My

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only ask is that no matter what the world throws

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at us, you always be the same.

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Speaker 4: Why are you running away from simple questions? Just answer

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a question? If you talked to President Trump yet, and

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I pushed me, when was the last time you answered

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a question that you didn't know what was coming.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody, It's the Ricochet Podcast. To number seven, one

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hundred and thirty two. I'm James Lyleax in a beautiful

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proto spring day in Minneapolis. I'm joined by Stephen Heywood

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in California. I presume, unless, of course, you're off in

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Bruges or Peru or somewhere, you parapatetic fellow.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm at home today and where it's pouring rain,

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so you have better weather than I do.

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Speaker 2: That's good. Charles W. Cook is not with us due

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to a joyous family occasion, So in his absence we

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will attempt to say things in that accent that somehow,

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that somehow makes us sound smarter than we actually are.

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And that's the only thing I envy Charlie four, among

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many other things, like the fact that he's in Florida

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and the fact that well he doesn't have to confront

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perhaps what we are going to confront right now today. Stephen.

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I'm almost tempted to say that I could just make

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something up about what's being proposed, or what's happening, or

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what's being criticized, and by the time this gets out,

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and by the time next week happens, it'll be true.

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It will have happened. The continue blizzard of stuff that

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follows from this administration. One of the things that interested

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me last week is the proposal to cut taxes for

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anybody who's making under one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Now,

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I support this, but I should also know that I

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am the author of How to Make exactly one hundred

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and forty nine and ninety nine dollars a year. So

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on another level, I do not. I kind of want

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everybody to pay taxes, and I would think that in

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your striking while the iron is hot mode here, this

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would be a great time to say, you know what,

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we're going to abolish the entire irs. We're going to

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have a flat rate tax, right, and everybody's just going

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to fill out a postcard and that's that. Let's say, no,

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I'm in complete agreement. We don't want we don't We've

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already skewed the income tax to the upper brackets already,

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a contrary to what you hear repeatedly from Elizabeth warrens

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of the world. And you do want people to have

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a stake in the government. I've long thought that even

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low income people should pay a little bit so they

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have skin in the game. And so no, it's going

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the wrong direction to do it that way. And yes,

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the flat tax is the right solution. The usual complaints

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about the fat fact the flat tax, of course, is

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you mean to say that Warren Buffett would pay the

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same rate as his secretary, to which I would say, yes,

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that's precisely and exactly what I have to say, because

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that seems to me in our democracy where we're searching

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for equality, I know that equities replaced equality would still

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to be that there's something fundamentally unfair about a series

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of laws that are skewed adjusted and according to how

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much money make or property you have. I've always wondered

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exactly how they got the constitutionality of a progressive income

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tax passed the Supreme Court? Can you explain? I know nothing,

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I know nothing, So could you tell me exactly how

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that happened? Well, they did.

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Speaker 1: They required a constitutional amendment because Congress did pass as

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an income tax in the eighteen nineties and the Supreme

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tax clause of Article one. It's a little weird what

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a direct tax means, but in practice it meant that

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a portioning it according to population by state. A lot

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of reasons why they did that, and it's kind of strange,

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but so the tax incomes directly required the sixteenth Amendment. Now,

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percent someday. Right, So that's how I got it. But yeah,

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but the Buffet thing. Look, if you say the same

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rate as his secretary, Harry, if he makes ten times

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the amount of a secretary, he'll pay ten times a tax. Now,

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the odd thing about this proposal is, you know, Buffett's

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and fifty thousand dollars, and he's, you know, he always

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sort of main compensation which is not taxed until he

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this should say, somebody wants tax break for Democrat billionaires

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like Warren Buffett, just for the confusion in Mayhem, it

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and that we get away do it with the iris

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entirely and fund the government by tariffs and or consumption taxes.

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of reasons. I don't like I mean, it strikes me

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like the VAT or something gets something gets built in

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and ends up creeping its way into every single aspect

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of a product's construction manufacturer until eventually the price of

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everything goes up. And you can say, well, yeah, I

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mean the price of everything would go up, but you

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you know, need to have more money because you wouldn't

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be taxed at this user, at this this exor rate

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by the federal government. And I just there's just something

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about the absolute simplicity of a flat tax and the

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ability and the idea that you could just like do

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your taxes in a trice without really thinking. Because here's

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the thing. Everybody knows this. You do your taxes right,

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you send them in and then if you get them wrong,

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the government will tell you what you got wrong. And

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know what I owe, why don't they just tell me?

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got something? So maybe become the fifteenth. We may talk

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about that more as the culture, but this is really

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Speaker 1: Of course he's passed away now, but Don Rumsfeld used

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to send in a letter to the IRS with his

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tax return every year saying, here's my tax return. I've

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signed it like you require, but I cannot vouch for

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the accuracy of it because no one can because you

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they'll tell you one thing. You call it again and

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get through, you might get a different thing. You can't

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this about the consumption tax. My fear is that we

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the value added tax. The problem with it is it's

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some reasons why consumption tax is a better tax, for

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tax efficiency reasons and so forth. But I like the

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idea a little bit in theory because it would connect

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the cost of government to all citizens. And if citizens

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were actually made to pay for all the government they get,

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they might want less of it. So my point is

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is that there's a small window. Maybe, and listeners will

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tell me I'm out of my mind, and they're probably

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right that the case for broader based consumption taxes on

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everybody would actually change the body politic in favor of

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much less spending. Maybe that's too optimistic.

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people just won't make that connection, and they won't figure

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out and besides, they like what they're getting. I mean,

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look exactly how we've seen about twenty thirty forty percent

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of the population absolutely shriek because DOGE has gone and

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taken away and demolished one agency, one agency. Right, I

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was rooting today, I mean Columbia. Do you think Columbia

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is going to get its four hundred million back this

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year or because they've made a whole bunch of changes,

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and now they're cleaning house because apparently the prospect of

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hanging has concentrated in their mind wonderfully. Do you think

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they'll get their money back? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think here we want to borrow the old Reagan

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slogan from the Lake Cold War Trust, but verify. I

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want to make sure they go through with the expulsions,

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that they go through with enforcing new standards including no

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one protesters can wear masks on campus and so forth,

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middle Eastern Studies program in receivership. The problem with Columbia

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these other places, as in as Stepman put it, lives

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rules of enforcement on protests, it's the stuff we're teaching

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and the faculty we're hiring, and they need to get

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long hated universities and now finally there's their chance to

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show that by dismantling them, which I don't know. It

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brings to mind the old of Dodge that the right

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knows the arguments of the left, but the left does

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not know the artright the right. I mean, yes, I

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mean we swim in a culture where it's inevitable that

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we're going to hear the arguments of the other side,

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but they don't, so let me explain it to them.

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It is not that we are a bunch of bou

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boisie idiots who don't want none of that book learning

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and think everything can be found in the good book

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of your pappy telling you some folk wisdom from six

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generations ago. No, that's that's not in at all. We

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actually are quite fond of history and culture and great

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art and great literature and science and the rest of it.

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politicized out of recognition by the people who made the

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long march through the institutions. We would be very happy

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if the if the English Literature Department was concerned with, oh,

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latest example of wok re to trot out some gender

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queer notion of this that or the other, some marginalized experience.

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that a sort of ideological conformity has not taken over

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the universities in the arts, in the science and in

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the sciences, then you're just not paying attention. Let me

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send you some links. So that's it. It's not that

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it's not that the right hates book learning and smart

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folk and feels inferior to them. No, it's the fact

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of the week. You will find that where there is

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a good, great books program that teaches the humanities and

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philosophy and history the old fashioned way. Often you'll find

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these little programs tucked away at major liberal universities.

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Speaker 2: They're wildly popular with.

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Speaker 1: Students because they're not teaching jargon and woke ideologies and

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all that kind of nonsense.

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Speaker 2: They teach it the old fashioned way.

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Speaker 1: Let's read Shakespeare instead of implying our own theories about

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the social order today and say that, oh, Shakespeare was

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a closet gay with father issue, whatever the heck, some

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Freudian thing right that was popular for a while. Let's

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just read him and let him speak to us directly,

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and then talk about it like in normal human beings

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that's done so little. But on the other hand, like

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I say, they're very popular when you do it that way,

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and more universities should get a clue.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely so.

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Speaker 2: The problem is, of course, when they're losing all this

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to the podcast From the Great North. As a Rule

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Evant co founder and CEO of Rebel News, and he's

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an author of many books, including the just published Deal

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of the Century, the America First plan for Canada's oil sands. Welcome, Ezra,

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how you doing great?

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Speaker 4: You know today the new Canadian Prime Minister was just

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sworn in about an hour ago, and he's Trudeau two

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point zero. In fact, he's worse than Trudeau. But he's

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also a little bit smarter than Trudeau. So that's bad news.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm here in Minnesota, which is practically Canada, and

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I'm afraid he's gonna make rumbling noises about annexing us

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and being the next province. But tell us more about

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this guy. He's come out of nowhere, and we here

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in the States on the conservative side, we were poised

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to see Pierre Pounds and replace Justin but now it

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seems as if the conservative movement in Canada is on

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the back foot thanks to a resurgence of nationalism. Economic nationalis.

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Tell us more about this new guy and what you

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expect out of him.

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Speaker 4: Sure, his name is Mark Carney, and he's been out

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of Canada for decades. He was the head of the

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Bank of Canada, which would be like our federal Reserve.

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But then he went and he became the head of

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the Bank of England, which is sort of weird. For

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a Canadian and he's been away from Canada ever since.

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He has three passports now. He's a globalist in the

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true sense of the term. He was on the board

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of the World Economic Forum in Davos, that sort of

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crypto government. He made a gazillion dollars as an oligarch.

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He was the chair of Brookfield Asset Management, which is

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like a mini Blackrock. And there's nothing wrong with being

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a big shot investor at all, except for like Blackrock,

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Brookfield had an eesg obsession, so they had all these

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assets under management, and they basically compelled they ordered, They

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demanded that any company they invest their investors' money in

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subscribed to woke dei methodology, including a huge emphasis on

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net zero anti energy ideology. He literally said he was

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a fan of Greta Tunberg. This is supposedly a serious

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global policy maker and investment manager, saying he was guided

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by Greta Tunberg. He has come back to Canada. I

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don't think he actually lives in Canada. His wife lives

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and works in New York. Brookfield Asset Management just moved

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to New York. He's got three passports and again, I listen,

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there are people who fly around the world all the time.

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That's great, but they don't generally say I now want

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my next thing to be Prime Minister of Canada. And

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it happened immediately. Let me just give you one last detail.

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Justin Trudeau was a deeply unpopular prime minister after nine

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years of scandals. So his party basically said we're going

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to get rid of you, and you can do that

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in a parliamentary system through what's called a vote of

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non confidence. So all the MPs would gather in the Parliament,

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they would be a vote, and the government would fall

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and they would be an election. The writing was on

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the wall. He was doomed. So the minute before that

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could happen, he ran to what's called the Governor General,

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who is the King's representative in Canada, and said, please

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dissolve the parliament immediately. Lock the doors immediately, and the

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King's Governor General agreed. It would be like on the

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eve of a vote to impeach a president if the

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president somehow managed to lock all the doors to Congress

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and just nan, I'm not letting you in. So for

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three months Trudeau governed without parliament. In fact, parliament has

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still not been recalled, and in this interregnum, the Liberal

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Party had its leadership vote. But here's where it gets

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super crazy. Four hundred thousand people signed up for the

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Liberal Party in basically a primary, but two hundred and

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fifty thousand of those votes were disqualified and we have

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no explanation of why. And of the one hundred and

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fifty thousand who voted, they allowed children as young as

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fourteen to vote, and they allowed foreign nationals to vote

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as long as they were permanent residents. So most people

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who were registered were not allowed, and amongst those allowed

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were children and foreign nationals. And I won't get into

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other bizarre things people being excluded. And anyhow, Mark Carney

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has been installed, selected, appointed, parachuted in I don't know

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what words you would use. He's not even a member

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of Parliament, which I can't even remember the last time

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that happened. We have a Prime Minister who is not

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allowed to sit in the Parliament because he hasn't doesn't

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have a seat. I think that he hasn't even I

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would be surprised if he's even been to every Canadian province.

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We have just had a kind of soft coup and

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final detail before I corkt. It's just it's incredible. In

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recent elections, the Chinese Communist Party has had an exerted

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effort to influence local elections in Canada. And this isn't

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a rumor. This has been reported by Ceases. That's our

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CIA and the Mounties, that's our FBI. They targeted eleven

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districts and they really tried to destabilize those and they

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bust in voters like it was quite an operation. And

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in we had a judicial inquiry about this, and the

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Chinese Communists have a huge interest in manipulating Canadian democracy.

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And so all of a sudden, I look at those

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four hundred thousand votes in the quarter million that were nuked,

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and it was an all online voting process. Of course

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it could be hacked. You have an illegitimate prime minister

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selected illegitimately, when there's an illegitimate prorogation and dissolution in

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the House. We are in the worst of times now.

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There is a great Conservative leader in canadaamed Pierre Paul

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of Unfortunately Donald Trump yank in the chain of Trudeau

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and saying I want to annex you, I want to

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make you the fifty first state that has hurt the

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pride of a lot of Canadians who have recoiled against it.

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So the unintended consequence of mocking Trudeau has been to

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pump up the Liberals. Anyways, that's my update. Sorry for

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going on for so long. That's the state of affairs

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in Canada.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fascinating and appalling. And what I question is

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why this guy. I mean, if you have this cabal

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that is going to foist upon the country somebody that's

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going to do their bidding exactly, wouldn't you at least

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find somebody malleably who could dress up in the raiment

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of Canada and politics and patriotism and the rest of

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it and make him sound like he's one of the people,

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as opposed to finding somebody who is just a cardboard

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cutout cliche of the transnational globalism. I mean, it's so blatant.

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I don't get why it was in.

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Speaker 4: Well, he's campaigning as Captain Canada.

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Speaker 2: In two ways.

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Speaker 4: He is saying accurately that he was the head of

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the Bank of Canada a couple of decades ago. That's true,

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so he can claim, well, I worked for Canada, I

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helped us guide us through economic storms. That's what he's saying.

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And because Donald Trump is you know, Trump's got that banter,

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He's got that Manhattan, you know style nicknaming people. Let

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you know, he even did it to people who are

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now his allies and friends. Little Marco Rubio, Lion, Ted Cruz,

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Now these people are his allies. Trump's got that style

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which is a little harsh to the Canadian ear, which

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is maybe a little bit sensitive. And so when you

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say to someone, hey, join the United States and be

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a state, I mean for some people, they as a

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thought exercise, they say, oh, that's a good idea. We'd

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be wealthier, we'd be freer, we'd have an army. But

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for many other people, it would be like going up

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to a married woman and saying, ditch your husband and

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run off with me. So it's an indecent proposal of sorts.

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I mean, I guess if someone was contemplating a divorce,

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or if they weren't married yet, if they would treat

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it as a real proposal. But I think that's how

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it landed emotionally, as a lot of Canadians say, how

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dare you? Even though we have our flaws, we're not

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just going to join you. And I know it was banter,

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and I know it was Trump just yanking the chain

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of Trudeau, but I think that that gave the Liberal

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Party a new story to tell. We are the defenders

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of Canada. Anyone who's not with us is an American shill.

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And you're not for Trump, are you? Because Pierre Paul of,

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the Conservative Leader of Canada, had a twenty point lead

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over the Liberals. Now maybe it's a ten point lead.

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I've seen some polls that put the Liberals ahead because

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the Liberals are saying, we're captain Canada. If you're not

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for us, you're a trader, they use that word, and

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we must unite to stop the evil Trump. Wouldn't you

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rather if you're a left wing Canadian, wouldn't you rather

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run against Trump than run against a popular conservative Canadian?

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So that's the situation in Canada.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so, Ezra, it's Steve Hayward out in California, and

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I feel you're pain because we suffer under our version

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of Justin Trudeau in the form of Gavin Newsom.

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Speaker 2: But the less said about that, the better.

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Speaker 4: Look.

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Speaker 2: I want to turn to your new book.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk a bit about this fifty first

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state business, but I want to work into it in

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a roundabout way through your new book, A Deal the

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Century about Canada's oil sands. Can you give us a

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thumbnail sketch of what you're on about here? And then

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I got a follow up question about whether it's a

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good idea depending on this and that, So go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Sure. I don't think all America. I don't think most

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Americans would know that the third largest oil reserve country

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in the world, after Saudi Radio and Venezuela is Canada.

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And it's just, you know, a couple hundred miles north

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of Montana in my home province of Alberta. And it's

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sort of a new fangled technology. It's oil sand. So

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it's literally sandy oil. So how did you get the

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oil separated from the sand? It took them a while

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to figure that out, but when they cracked that secret

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about twenty five years ago, wow, it just And so

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today Canada is the number one source of oil imports

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into America, which is a wonderful thing because it's displacing

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conflict oil from opek. I like to call the oil

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sands ethical oil. If I was thinking, yes, if I

476
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was thinking like a liberal, what are the ethics of oil? Well,

477
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are you environmentally responsible, that's a good one. Do you

478
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take the proceeds from your oil and you doing good

479
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things with it? Or did you spend it on terrorism

480
00:24:53,799 --> 00:24:56,680
and the military. That's a good question to ask Qatar

481
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or Russia. Right, are you respectful of workers? Do you

482
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pay them? Well, it's a good question to ask the

483
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,359
Petro states in the Gulf. And finally, do you respect

484
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civil liberties? Canada is one of the few ethical oil

485
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producers in the world, compared to the conflict oil of Opec. Now,

486
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that's an argument that might win over some liberals, but

487
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if you're in America first Republican, I think there's a

488
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different way to phrase it. And the reason I'm talking

489
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about oil is this. Donald Trump has repeatedly said we

490
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have a huge trade deficit with Canada. That ain't fair. Well,

491
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the reason there's that huge trade deficit is because of

492
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the oil. And if you weren't buying Canadian oil, you'd

493
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be buying it from Venezuela and Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, god forbid,

494
00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:42,279
I ran none of those places are better options. So

495
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Trump wants to put a tariff on the oil. Sized

496
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trouble is, you know, you put a tariff on a

497
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Honda factory in Mexico. You can move the Honda factory

498
00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:56,240
to the States and you've got what Trump likes, American jobs,

499
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American factory in the American market. But you can't. The

500
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tariff is not going to move the oil. So it's

501
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not going to get up and move down to the States.

502
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So what's happening is that tariff and Trump has proposed

503
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to ten percent tariff on oil. Well, all that's going

504
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,039
to do is add ten percent to the price of

505
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the oil that is the feedstock for these American refineries.

506
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One more thing about that American about that oil sense

507
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,039
who's actually in Alberta developing the oil scents.

508
00:26:20,279 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 2: It's Americans.

509
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 4: Imperial Oil that's the local subsidiary of Exxonomobile and Canadian companies.

510
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,079
Guess who owns them, Big US pension fund. So you

511
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,240
got Americans producing the oil, Americans refining the oil. American

512
00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:39,440
American American map. The USMCA gives America preferential access. It's

513
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as American as can be. Terriffing. It doesn't do any

514
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of your America first ideas. So here was my pitch,

515
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and I call it deal of the century. And that's

516
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this new book I wrote, why do I call it

517
00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:54,279
deal of the century? Because Trump thinks like a real

518
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,319
estate man. He says he wants to acquire Greenland. I

519
00:26:58,319 --> 00:27:00,720
can see why if you look at the map. He's

520
00:27:00,759 --> 00:27:06,480
talking about Panama. That's smart. Well, Canada is the oil

521
00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:08,680
sands is a bigger deal than either of those times

522
00:27:08,759 --> 00:27:14,839
ten because there's one hundred and seventy billion barrels of

523
00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:17,440
ethical oil just sitting there. And I did the math.

524
00:27:18,279 --> 00:27:22,200
If you double the production, double the annual production of

525
00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:25,319
the oil sands, which Alberta, their premier, says she wants

526
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to do. And if America bought that, it would displace

527
00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:35,880
all of the OPEC oil that America buys. And what's

528
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:41,920
the value of that fifty years at approximately seventy seventy

529
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,799
five bucks of barrels? A little bit less than that.

530
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:49,599
Now that's a thirteen trillion dollar deal. But the best

531
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part is America is no longer beholden to the Persian Gulf.

532
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:53,599
Speaker 2: Did you know that the.

533
00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:57,799
Speaker 4: Fifth Fleet, the United States fifth Fleet, costs about fifty

534
00:27:57,839 --> 00:28:00,599
billion dollars a year just to patrol the Persian Sea. Lings,

535
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,920
It's like, it's like you have agreed to be the

536
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,920
fifty billion dollar year Brinks truck to let the Saudis

537
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,880
and the Bahrainis and the Amoradis sell their oil. You're

538
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,839
the global cop if you didn't have to do that,

539
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,599
Like you could still mess around in the Middle East

540
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,480
if you want to, but now you don't have to.

541
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,799
Cazerill's coming down through the Keystone XL pipeline and others.

542
00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:23,759
So here's the big win, and I'm trying to phrase

543
00:28:23,759 --> 00:28:26,640
it as an America first thing right Number one, You

544
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,920
get all the good stuff from Canada without having to

545
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,480
have the side effects. You don't need a huge Democrat

546
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:36,160
voting electoral college. You know, you don't need the French

547
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,599
bilingualist like you want to acquire Canada, really you want

548
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,839
another Democrat, you know, two more Democrat cenaters. I don't

549
00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:46,079
think you do. How about take the good stuff and

550
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,359
when and if you're really going to pay Canada ten

551
00:28:49,599 --> 00:28:53,000
thirteen whatever trillion dollars over fifty years, Well, now you

552
00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:56,599
got something to trade. And now you can say, hey, Canada,

553
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,119
you got to reinvest in your military. Now you got

554
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,480
to defend the ARC to with us. You got to

555
00:29:02,079 --> 00:29:05,039
get those f thirty fives going. No more messing around

556
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:07,240
and by the way, can you let our dairy in

557
00:29:07,319 --> 00:29:09,720
which Canadians would want It would lower prices. And by

558
00:29:09,759 --> 00:29:12,400
the way, how come we can't have American banks on

559
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,680
your main streets offering mortgages. You're not forced to get

560
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,960
a mortgage from an American bank, but can we please

561
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,000
at least be allowed to sell them. So Trump's demands

562
00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:25,759
are actually reasonable. And if Trump says, I'll buy all

563
00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:28,599
your oil. And by the way, I hope Trump likes

564
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,640
this idea because you know who's been sniffing around the

565
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,599
albert oil.

566
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,079
Speaker 2: Sands, well, the Chinese, right, the Chinese.

567
00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 4: In fact, they actually bought an oil sands company about

568
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,759
fifteen years ago. They would buy it all if they could.

569
00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:44,119
Speaker 2: That's right, I think. So I love the idea.

570
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: I've been following the oil sands story for a long

571
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,680
time and I'm sure, as you know, if there's any

572
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kind of oil.

573
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you think environmentalists hate.

574
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,839
Speaker 1: Fracking, they really hate the oil sands in Canada. And

575
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,960
never mind of what they think about as accurate or not,

576
00:29:58,079 --> 00:30:01,160
that doesn't matter. Would it has the bonus of freaking

577
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,119
them out and outraging them even more. But this is

578
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,079
an argument against making Canada the fifty first state. If

579
00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:10,519
I'm Alberta and I'm the oil sands owners, the last

580
00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:13,359
thing I want is to be under the regulatory jurisdiction

581
00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:16,960
of the United States, because actually, you know, Alberta has

582
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,400
a much more permissive regulatory structure, which is why the

583
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,599
industry has flourished there. So I mean, Alberta has always

584
00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:25,640
struck me as the Texas of Canada, the one province

585
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,799
that might really like to join the United States, except

586
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,119
that R. E. P A, even under Trump, would screw

587
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:36,799
it all up. So that's one argument against the union idea. Anyway,

588
00:30:36,839 --> 00:30:40,359
I love the idea. You said one other thing, though,

589
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,440
that's on my mind, which is quite aside from the

590
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,640
merits of integrating. What's the old Bernard Shaw line at

591
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,960
American England or two nations divided by a common language.

592
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,839
That's just as true of Canada, not so much, you know,

593
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,200
a in a boot butt of the cultural differences are

594
00:30:57,279 --> 00:31:00,839
much larger than a lot of people. And as you

595
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,599
point out, you're likely to get two Democratic senators if

596
00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:06,519
it was just one state, but also forty houseeed or

597
00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:09,119
something like that, because Canada is the size of Californian

598
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,880
population wise. And I'm looking at this thinking just the

599
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,400
politics of it are terrible from a Republican point of view.

600
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: I don't know what Trump is thinking.

601
00:31:17,319 --> 00:31:19,279
Speaker 4: Well I know what Trump was thinking because Senator Marco

602
00:31:19,319 --> 00:31:23,279
Rubio told us he told Captain Herridge, if I'm saying

603
00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:25,440
her name right, yeah, she asked him where did this

604
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,319
whole Canada fifty first state thing come from? And Marco

605
00:31:28,359 --> 00:31:31,599
Rubio said this. He said, when Justin Trudeau flew down

606
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,720
to Mara Lago a couple months ago, Trump asked Trudeau,

607
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,599
what would happen if we zeroed out our trade deficit?

608
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,720
And Trudeau, who's sort of stupid and has never negotiated

609
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,720
anything in his life, blurted out, well, that would be

610
00:31:50,759 --> 00:31:53,799
the end of Canada. If you watch that interview between

611
00:31:53,799 --> 00:31:57,799
Marco Rubio and Catherine Herridge, Rubio, I mean, it was

612
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,160
very plausible the way he described it. Trump said, what

613
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,599
happens if we zero things out? Trudeau said, it's the

614
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,160
end of Canada, which is a crazy thing to say.

615
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,400
First of all, it's not true. Second of all, what

616
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,680
you've just told Trump is your existential dread of what

617
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,319
could happen, and now he knows where to poke you like,

618
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,960
this is the master of giving people mean nicknames. So

619
00:32:17,359 --> 00:32:19,960
he Trump immediately said, oh, well, you should become the

620
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,359
fifty first state. And Trudeau's face I could just imagine

621
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,759
when he realized the weapony. So that's where it came from.

622
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,720
It's a taunt. It's like little rocket Man, or it's

623
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:34,359
like any of his other tweets, and Trump is here's

624
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,359
I re read parts of Art of the Deal, and

625
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,000
I really recommend that to people if you want to

626
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,799
understand what Trump's doing with these tariffs. He talks about hyperbole,

627
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,119
he talks about knocking the other guy off balance, and

628
00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:50,640
of course that's what he's doing. But here's what Trump,

629
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,200
I think is missing. Trump is used to real estate

630
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,319
deals where the other side wants it badly, and Trump

631
00:32:57,359 --> 00:32:59,400
knows you've got to be able to walk away. That's

632
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,039
half of your strength. But what happens, and this goes

633
00:33:03,079 --> 00:33:06,000
back to your very first question to me, what happens

634
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,720
when the guy on the other side, the guy on

635
00:33:07,759 --> 00:33:12,440
the Canadian side, has the moral hazard of wanting the

636
00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:17,480
negotiation to fail. In fact, a successful negotiation between the

637
00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:20,599
Liberals in Canada and Trump would be terrible for the

638
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,119
Liberals because then you would remove the demon, the risk,

639
00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:29,079
the ogre, the threat. There is no deal that Trump

640
00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:32,039
could offer the Liberals that they would accept. They flipped

641
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:35,519
the tables on them because they need to fight against them.

642
00:33:35,559 --> 00:33:40,559
In fact, perversely, the more damaging to Canada the fight is,

643
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:44,079
the more the Liberals can say, you see, and by

644
00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:47,279
the way, that also hides their own economic mismanagement. So

645
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,480
Trump thinks he's in a deal where the other guy

646
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:53,279
has no cards. He uses that phrase a lot. Hey Zelenski,

647
00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:57,160
you have no cards. And it's true, it's true, it's true.

648
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,880
But what happens if the other guy has a weird strategy,

649
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:05,160
a comic Kazi strategy that says, I want Trump to

650
00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:09,519
smash Canada like a bowl of eggs because I need

651
00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:14,360
that victim hood to run and beat this Pierre Poulv.

652
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:17,239
That's what I don't think Trump quite grocks, because I

653
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,000
don't think he pays very close attention to Canada, and

654
00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:25,679
he has actually, contrary to his own instincts, strengthened the

655
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,559
Liberals up here.

656
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: I'm something of an expert on Canada myself, because twice

657
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,320
a year in Cancun and I have conversations with people

658
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,039
from Canada. I love to go down there, and what

659
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:37,880
a cross section there they are. I mean, I've really

660
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,039
had fascinating conversations about economies in Canada. But one of

661
00:34:41,039 --> 00:34:44,599
the things that people keep avoiding and dancing around, perhaps

662
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:48,320
because they're a Canadian, is the subject of demographic shifts

663
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,639
and change in Canada. And I don't mean to put

664
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:55,880
a bowl around Steve's questions about the oil, but we

665
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,760
have you for a limited time, and I am curious

666
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,480
exactly as to how Canada is or not with what

667
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:04,800
some perceived to be a shift and it's demographic makeup,

668
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,920
or if it's just no big thing and everybody's whistling

669
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,159
and moving along and heal Canada and use your maple

670
00:35:10,199 --> 00:35:11,400
syrup and whatever.

671
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Speaker 4: That is, in my opinion, the number one issue in Canada.

672
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:21,519
Justin Trudeau has raised the immigration and temporary migrant workers

673
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:29,760
temporary students to two million people per year legally and proportionately,

674
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,519
that would be like eighteen million a year in the US.

675
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,440
That's just the legal that's not even illegal. And that's

676
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,679
the problem we have is and if you come to Toronto,

677
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,960
you'll say, am I in Toronto? There are four point

678
00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:47,360
nine million people in our country on temporary permits that

679
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,440
expire at the end of this year. That's more than

680
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:53,000
ten percent of the population. You can see it with

681
00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:58,920
your eyes. Every issue is exacerbated. Obviously, housing prices, especially

682
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,280
in the big cities, are beyond the reach of ordinary people.

683
00:36:02,599 --> 00:36:05,880
The average home in Toronto and Montreal is more than

684
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:12,039
one million dollars. Inflation of other goods, of course, energy costs.

685
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:14,719
We've got a carbon tax. And of course what happens

686
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,559
when you bring in hundreds of thousands of migrant workers,

687
00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:25,639
you depress wages. So Canadians have wages being depressed, housing

688
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:32,320
prices being inflated, inflation everywhere. There's one million foreign nationals

689
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,519
who claim to be international students. There aren't even one

690
00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:39,880
million Canadian students in university. There are more foreigners. And

691
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,639
by the way, they come here as students, they never

692
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,880
even go to a school. They're fake schools set up

693
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,400
in strip malls, you know, the local college. They're so

694
00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:54,400
it is so outrageous. A huge effect is economic. Of course,

695
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,599
we have a welfare state and welfare state medicine. You

696
00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:00,719
can imagine what that does. These people in the main

697
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,159
come from low trust societies, so they discover the Canadian

698
00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:07,599
tradition of food banks, Well, they just do their weekly

699
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:09,960
shopping at food banks. Now there's no such thing as

700
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,440
a food bank in Canada. In fact, some food banks

701
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:17,719
now say no foreign students allowed because they just, oh,

702
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,360
these suckers are giving away free food. I don't need

703
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,440
to shop like it's And then you have the extreme

704
00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:27,840
side of that, where you have pro Hamas extremists like

705
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,480
you had in Columbia, not just in Campton universities, but

706
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:35,440
on the streets in Jewish neighborhoods. In Montreal there was

707
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,920
a Hamas riot. So every and Trudeau is doing this

708
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,639
on purpose, and his successor, Mark Carney is doing the

709
00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:48,079
same thing. They can count there are now two million

710
00:37:48,159 --> 00:37:52,360
Muslims in Canada compared to four hundred thousand Jews. So

711
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:53,079
do the math.

712
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,639
Speaker 1: So, Ezra, I'm will give you a broad last question here.

713
00:37:57,559 --> 00:37:59,840
When I first heard this Trump idea of making Canada

714
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,360
the fifty first state, well, the first things I did

715
00:38:02,559 --> 00:38:04,920
was dust off my shelf because I'm an academic, a

716
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,000
thirty five year old book Continental Divide by Seymour and

717
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,559
Martin Lipsitt, very distinguished American political scientists, Sally deceased now,

718
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,920
and you know, I'm sort of aware of some of

719
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,960
the cultural and political differences between the US and Canada,

720
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,639
and the book really alerted me to how deep and

721
00:38:20,679 --> 00:38:23,079
profound they really are. I think Americans really don't pay

722
00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:26,000
much attention to Canada. Sorry, not much except maybe during

723
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,000
hockey season. And Canadians, I mean, you know, like James

724
00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:32,760
when I you know, my visits to Canada, mostly British Columbia,

725
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:35,559
but also other Canadians. I know there's a lot of

726
00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:38,679
deep pride in the country, as there should be, and

727
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,440
while not anti American, although there's some of that everywhere,

728
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,039
but while not anti American, I think there is I think,

729
00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:47,960
maybe justly a sense of wounded pride that America sort

730
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,480
of regards Canada with benign neglect or to stain or

731
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,239
make funny about people saying a boot and so forth.

732
00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:59,119
So I don't know what's your sense of I mean,

733
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:01,840
you mentioned politically this has reinvigorated the Liberal Party in

734
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,440
a foolish, unintended consequence. But to what extent is this,

735
00:39:06,199 --> 00:39:08,760
in an odd way, maybe helpful to some of the

736
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problems you just mentioned, In other words, reinvigorating some sense

737
00:39:12,199 --> 00:39:15,960
of Canadian pride and nationalism and therefore resistance to some

738
00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:18,039
of these adverse transit point two.

739
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,599
Speaker 4: You know it's funny because under Justin Trudeau, our founding

740
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:24,760
Prime Minister, Sir Johnny McDonald was stripped off the ten

741
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,199
dollar bill. Statues of him were put either torn down

742
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,960
or put in wooden coffins. Our national anthem lyrics were

743
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,920
changed by Trudeau. Our passport, all the imagery in the

744
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:41,400
passport was stripped. Trudeau denounced Canada as a genocidal project,

745
00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:43,760
and he said the genocide was continuing. He told The

746
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,000
New York Times in his first year of government that

747
00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:51,239
Canada was a post national state with no core values.

748
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,679
During the trucker convoy, this symbol of the truckers appropriated for

749
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,760
their flag was the Canadian flag. They flew to the

750
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,239
Canadian flag, they sang the Canadian anthem, and those were

751
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:05,760
demonized as right wing hate symbols, woke ideology, saying the

752
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,039
Canada which was the end of the underground railroad, No,

753
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:13,320
we're the racist ones. They actually had Black lives matter

754
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,159
up here. We were the place where black people fled

755
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:18,519
to get away from slavery. So we had this whole

756
00:40:18,559 --> 00:40:22,639
woke denaturing of Canada, and in the last sixty days

757
00:40:22,639 --> 00:40:25,360
suddenly The people who hate Canada and told us it

758
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,440
was a sin to be Canadian are now saying raw

759
00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:31,800
rock passing the Canadian flag, So it's all fake. It's

760
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,320
all fake. The man with three passports, who has returned

761
00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:38,159
to grace us with his leadership, is now saying he's

762
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:41,079
a Canadian. No, he's not. He hasn't lived in Canada

763
00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:43,519
for years, so it's a lie. Just In Trudeau went

764
00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:46,440
on Anderson Cooper show a couple months ago, and Anderson

765
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,719
Cooper said, what is a Canadian? That's a good question.

766
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,920
Imagine the man who's been Prime minister for nine years answering,

767
00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:57,599
we're not American. That's your answer a negative, and it's

768
00:40:57,639 --> 00:41:00,199
an insulting negative. That's like saying, who are you on?

769
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 2: Not you.

770
00:41:01,679 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 4: There's an arrogance too. We have a National bookstore and

771
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:10,239
their chain motto is the world needs more Canada. This

772
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,760
sort of a patronizing, condescending and the thing is, in

773
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,039
a way Trump exposed that. He said we'll swap your

774
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,159
Canadian minibucks for our real dollars one to one, Yeah,

775
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,280
reminding us that we're poor up here. He said, we'll

776
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,679
defend you, unlike your undefended North Yeah. That's sort of

777
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,760
a thing, and so that it did hurt partly because

778
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,039
it's an indecent proposal to ask Canadians to abandon their loyalty,

779
00:41:36,519 --> 00:41:39,719
which and by the way, forty percent of young people

780
00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:42,840
in one poll that I saw young men in Western Canada,

781
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:45,280
forty percent of them said I'm up for that. Why

782
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,880
because they can't make a go of it in Canada,

783
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,119
and they also like Donald Trump's pride and nationalism. So,

784
00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:55,280
by the way, his indecent proposal has some takers, but

785
00:41:55,559 --> 00:41:58,960
for most Canadians, they're saying that's a little bit too

786
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,440
much and that Trump kutzba, which which Trump supporters love.

787
00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:05,079
I love it, but I can also see how it

788
00:42:05,159 --> 00:42:09,960
hurts people's feelings. And the liberals are so malleable that

789
00:42:10,119 --> 00:42:14,199
suddenly they've you know, decided that they're patriotic. They're not patriotic,

790
00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:18,000
they're not reducing that they're bringing in migrants from Gaza.

791
00:42:18,559 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 2: That's insane.

792
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 4: So, oh, believe you me. There's no real Canadian pride

793
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,199
going on, just symbolism and jingoism just to get through

794
00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:31,079
this moment against Donald Trump. I hope it doesn't work,

795
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:32,840
But the polls are narrowing.

796
00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:36,679
Speaker 2: When Canadian liberals start condemning church burnings, then you'll know

797
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,280
that they're really, really, you know, feigning an appeal to

798
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,719
the population. If Trump had been actually the master of

799
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,199
the the insult nickname, though, I think he would have

800
00:42:47,199 --> 00:42:52,000
started referring to Trudeau as Castro junior. Well he did

801
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,400
allude to Oh, did him?

802
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 4: He did?

803
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:56,599
Speaker 3: Oh?

804
00:42:56,639 --> 00:42:59,679
Speaker 4: He knows his stuff, and he actually knew Margaret Trudeau

805
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:03,639
in her wild child days. That's Justin Trudeau's mom. He

806
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,119
refers to her in one of his books. I can't

807
00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:07,920
remember the title. It's not Out of the Deal, It's

808
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,079
another one of his books. How she I mean? Justin

809
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:14,239
Trudeau is gone now literally today was his last day,

810
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:20,880
and I think the only saving grace for his nine

811
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,199
years would he was sort of dumb, like he had

812
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,719
a high emotional EQ like he was very good at

813
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,440
being friendly and relating to people, but he was sort

814
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,280
of dumb when it came to policy and sort of lazy.

815
00:43:32,679 --> 00:43:34,840
So there were a lot of terrible things he planned

816
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,000
that didn't get done. He planned one of the worst

817
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,760
censorship regimes known in the world, called the Online Harms Act,

818
00:43:41,159 --> 00:43:45,280
that would have included life in prison for a hate

819
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,000
crime but there is no life in prison in Canada

820
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:49,599
for anything, not even for murder. But they would have

821
00:43:49,639 --> 00:43:52,320
been for hate. They would have had all that. He

822
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,800
would have established three new censorship bureaus. The only reason

823
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,320
we were spared those, by the way, is because of

824
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,320
his dis of Parliament to save his skin. So if

825
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,440
Trudeau had been more industrious and got these bills through earlier,

826
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,480
he would have done a lot more damage. I mean,

827
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,800
believe me, he's done a lot of damage. And immigration

828
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,239
is a bell that I don't know if you can

829
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:18,000
unring it. But Canada is a much weaker country now

830
00:44:18,039 --> 00:44:20,920
than when Trudeau took it over. One of the reasons

831
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,599
he juiced immigration so much was to hide the fact

832
00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:27,320
that we are actually in a recession on a per

833
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,320
capita basis. We're getting poor every year per capita. The

834
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,079
only way to hide that is to bring in five

835
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,400
percent of your population every year.

836
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: That's insane.

837
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 4: There's no country in the world that does that well.

838
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,519
Speaker 2: At least you've space to put them, given the unoccupied

839
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:44,599
nature of vast sauaws of the country. But no, I

840
00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:47,800
want Canada to thrive. I want Canada to be proud

841
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,639
of Canada. I want Canada to be a partner, and

842
00:44:49,639 --> 00:44:51,639
I hate what's going on in both of the government

843
00:44:51,679 --> 00:44:53,800
and the relationships between the two, because it's like watching

844
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,440
your parents fight. Don't please make up and be Everything

845
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,360
will be well, Hey, folks. Deal of the Century is

846
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,880
what it's called Deal of the Century, the America first

847
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,760
plan for Canada's oil sands. That's as it was, the latest,

848
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,239
and of course you can get him at Rebel News

849
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,760
and elsewhere. We enjoy your work and we thank you

850
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,679
for coming on this the Ricochete podcast, and good luck.

851
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 4: Thanks, great to see you guys again.

852
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 2: Bye bye. So you know, when I was mentioning the

853
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,960
the church burnings in Canada, which seemed to be a

854
00:45:25,079 --> 00:45:28,079
consequence of people being angry at the church for all

855
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,559
of the native schools and the desks that they attended,

856
00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:32,639
if I recall correctly, they did a lot of soundings

857
00:45:32,639 --> 00:45:35,199
with the ultracenter of the ground and they couldn't turn

858
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,119
up these mass graves. You read these stories even.

859
00:45:39,199 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, it turned out to be a complete hoax,

860
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,760
kind of like all the church burnings that Bill Clinton

861
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,239
said he remembered from his childhood, when the historical records

862
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,960
show there were none right anywhere around where he lived.

863
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,239
But this is uh, you know, this is a favorite. Well, look,

864
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,320
the Left relies on the hoax as much of the time.

865
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: Bill, do you actually remember specifically the details of the

866
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,920
Bill Clinton years, because I do. I was there. And

867
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,400
when people start to paint the nineties with the nostalgic

868
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,679
brush that people painted the seventies with in the night,

869
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,679
I mean, inevitably every era gets sort of dipped in candy.

870
00:46:13,679 --> 00:46:15,280
And it was great in the suite before the awful

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00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,800
times came. I don't and sometimes I wish, actually that

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899
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where do we end here? Apparently there was a CR.

900
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,079
They always call it a CR, like everybody knows what

901
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:04,239
that is, now, yeah, do we? Well?

902
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,199
Speaker 1: No, it's when you don't pass a budget like you're

903
00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:08,400
supposed to in which we haven't been doing for almost

904
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,159
fifty years now, passing a budget properly the way the

905
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:12,079
law says we should.

906
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 2: So they just say we.

907
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 1: Call it an omnibus continuing resolution, which means just keep

908
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,400
the government going at current levels. Except these things are

909
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,400
always cobbled together in the middle of the night. Theyre

910
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,280
always sliped some extra things and new spending in and

911
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,920
Republicans have sometimes tried to block it, and then Republicans,

912
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,639
when they have a majority, had to rely on Democratic.

913
00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 2: Votes to pass it.

914
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,519
Speaker 1: So they finally got wise to this game and passed

915
00:48:35,559 --> 00:48:39,039
a Republican only version, and that has put the Democrats

916
00:48:39,039 --> 00:48:41,159
in a panic because it's got some spending cuts in it.

917
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,880
I think they're modest, but still the arrows in the

918
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,960
right direction and the Democrats so it's a pause here.

919
00:48:48,119 --> 00:48:50,119
You know, political sciences will tell you that the way

920
00:48:50,159 --> 00:48:52,599
you can tell there's a real tectonic shift in politics

921
00:48:52,679 --> 00:48:54,599
going on is not when you change your own party,

922
00:48:54,679 --> 00:48:57,239
as Trump is done, but when you compel the other

923
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,760
party to move your direction. Reagan did that to the

924
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,760
Democrats in the eighties. Margaret Thatcher made labor moderate and

925
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,000
so forth. Well, suddenly Senate Democrats were thinking all week

926
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:11,159
we're going to borrow the favorite feudal tactic of Republicans

927
00:49:11,159 --> 00:49:15,880
and shut down the government. Apparently they have already collapsed

928
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,000
on this, because I think there are enough of senators

929
00:49:18,039 --> 00:49:20,760
who say this is insane. And by the way, would

930
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,320
you like to be as you know, these government shutdowns,

931
00:49:23,679 --> 00:49:26,719
non essential personnel stay home. Do you want to be

932
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,239
designated as a non essential personnel in the age or.

933
00:49:30,159 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 2: The moment of Doge? I don't think so.

934
00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:37,159
Speaker 1: I think the Democrat Apparently, all the rumors are that

935
00:49:37,199 --> 00:49:39,840
the Democratic senators met in the caucus midweek and they

936
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,800
were yelling and screaming at each other so loud you

937
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,920
could hear it out in the hallway. So you know, again,

938
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:49,159
this is Trump genius and Republican rare Republican competence in Congress.

939
00:49:49,199 --> 00:49:51,559
They're actually going to pass something that moves the ball

940
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:54,800
down the field in our direction and divide the Democrats

941
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,840
along the way. And that's just lots of fun. I

942
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,480
would be happier if thecr had to be printed out

943
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,480
in everything, A person who voted on it had to

944
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initial the page, every single page. And now with an

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autopen Biden style. I mean, because I don't think they're

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even at the point now. I mean, when you when

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you sign an eu LA on your computer, all they

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ask is that you scroll to the end. You know,

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the program, the texts that you've scrolled to.

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Speaker 2: The end, you clicked the box, and you get accept

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But I would like something just to just to know

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that they had to go through the gruesome process of

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at least acknowledging the length and depth of these things.

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On the other hand, one of the things we like

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about Doge and the new administration is their ability to

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prune and remove, to make things less complex and less burdensome.

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The headline you're going to see next week, if not already,

958
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of course, is that the Trump administration proposes an increase

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in the amount of mercury in the air. I mean,

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I'm absolutely certain that's what it is. And what that

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would be is the administration saying, okay, there's a regulation

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here that says the acceptable parts per million in the

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air or parts per billion is a point zero zero

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zero zero zero zero zer one, and we're going to

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make that point zero zero zero zero zero zero two negligible,

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non noticeable nominally through nothing of the sort, but making

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a change that doesn't crimp. Shall we say this, that

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or the other thing in the economy that'll be the

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main headline. It comes from Zelden the EPA tweeting out.

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I mean, he wrote a Wall Street Journal article about it,

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but I found it out about it in a tweet

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thread where he discussed thirteen or fourteen consequential regulatory rollbacks

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that will help energy production and prosperity. So essentially moving

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us back to twenty twenty, when you know, the Biden

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administration came in and apparently in twenty twenty this was

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a dystopian mercury Field hell hole out of the you know,

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the dark satanic mills belching their poison into the air

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all around the country. So if we roll back to

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twenty twenty, I guess we'll have to hope that we

980
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can survive. I'd like to roll it back a little

981
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bit more somewhere between ironized Cody, you know, having a

982
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fake tear and maybe Bill Clinton juice in the caffe standards.

983
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I don't know, but there's all there are so many

984
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regulatory boat anchors that are draped around the economy, and

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so many of them come from the EPA and regulations

986
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that have been not exactly codified in law, but but

987
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somehow summoned into existence by the bureaucrats. So what do

988
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you think about these little steps here? I mean, it's

989
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it's it's EV mandates going the way of I love

990
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:27,800
how the people who say that Trump is doing what

991
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:32,199
he's doing to make money for his rich, technocratic buddy Elon,

992
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,559
then turns around and does away with EV mandates. Isn't

993
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that sort of counter to the other. Yes, and not really.

994
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Speaker 1: I mean what the Biden administration was doing was heavily

995
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subsidizing Elon's competitors. Now Elon built his company on some subsidies,

996
00:52:46,679 --> 00:52:49,719
but it's become profitable and the leading maker in the world.

997
00:52:50,159 --> 00:52:52,639
And Musk actually said, I think even before the election

998
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that getting rid of the mandates and subsidies would help

999
00:52:55,159 --> 00:52:57,639
his company. So it works either way. I think you're right.

1000
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It's a wonderful irony. I do think there broadly, what

1001
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Zeldon has announced is something really fundamental. It's not just

1002
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tweaking some regulations here there, or even rolling them back,

1003
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but the two big ones. And the problem is, I'm

1004
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a walk and so I don't want to be wonky

1005
00:53:11,519 --> 00:53:14,480
on the podcast because it does walk away well just briefly.

1006
00:53:14,519 --> 00:53:16,280
I mean, the two things he's going after is, first,

1007
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a thing called the Endangerment Finding and what essentially is

1008
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what the Obama EPA used to say, Oh co. Two,

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the stuff that each human being breathes out eight hundred

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00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,039
pounds worth a year is a dangerous health hazard, and

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00:53:30,039 --> 00:53:32,159
they're gonna try and roll that back. And they've done

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some I know a bit of the background. They've done

1013
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,079
careful legal work to make this stick, and that will

1014
00:53:37,159 --> 00:53:39,719
kick the props out from under the EPA trying to

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00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,000
nationalize the electric utility industry, which is what Obama tried

1016
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to do and Biden was trying to do it again.

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The other one is and this gets boring in a hurry,

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00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,400
and so I won't. I'll get rid of it in

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00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,599
a hurry. They're going to redo the cost of benefit

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analysis of prospective global warming, and it's called the social

1021
00:53:55,679 --> 00:53:58,079
cost of carbon And as I say, I won't bore

1022
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listeners except to say we'll do this. The Biden EPA

1023
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said that the present value of future climate damages in

1024
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economic terms is one hundred and fifty dollars a ton.

1025
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I think that was the figure maybe a little higher.

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Now almost nobody ever says what is the social benefit

1027
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of fossil fuel use? And the one really credibly economist

1028
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is a Dutch guy named Richard Tol who's very well respected.

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00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:23,679
Speaker 2: In environmental economics.

1030
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Speaker 1: He did a calculation a few years ago said the

1031
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social benefits of our fossil fuel use is at least

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four hundred dollars a ton.

1033
00:54:31,519 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 2: I think it's probably much higher.

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Speaker 1: And all these this is economic flim flamm and mumbo jumbo,

1035
00:54:36,039 --> 00:54:37,880
and he changed the assumptions, you get different numbers. But

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the problem is the benefits of fossil fuels are overwhelmingly positive.

1037
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,920
And no one knows this better than my friend, the

1038
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,679
new Secretary of Energy, Chris Wright. And he's going to

1039
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,800
be delivering hammer blows to all this stuff, and it's

1040
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,639
going to be fun to watch. I think the show

1041
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,119
was almost over for the climatistas, as I like to

1042
00:54:55,119 --> 00:54:55,559
call them.

1043
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,039
Speaker 2: It maybe you know, wankree to you, and it may

1044
00:54:58,039 --> 00:55:01,480
sound born, but it's actually important to every single little

1045
00:55:01,519 --> 00:55:04,559
aspect of the economy if we're coming up with social

1046
00:55:04,599 --> 00:55:06,679
goods and the rest of it. In declaring car, yeah,

1047
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,440
I think you're right. I mean, it's as we were.

1048
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,400
It always polls low. It's never up there in the

1049
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,719
top five or seven issues that people are particularly cared about.

1050
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,480
It's something that people not and pay lip service do,

1051
00:55:19,519 --> 00:55:21,519
but then live there like precisely if they do. I'm

1052
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:24,519
very concerned about the climate. I'm getting on a plane tomorrow.

1053
00:55:24,679 --> 00:55:27,519
Aren't there mutual? Isn't there some sort of consistency? No,

1054
00:55:27,639 --> 00:55:30,000
there isn't because I pay carbon credits and I planted,

1055
00:55:30,199 --> 00:55:34,559
et cetera. No, it will seem to be one of

1056
00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:39,239
those fevers from which we awoke later at home. So

1057
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there's that, I mean. But then again, there are people

1058
00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:45,360
who I'm sure blame Elon for a great deal of

1059
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,480
carbon dumping into the atmosphere, because of course it is

1060
00:55:48,679 --> 00:55:51,519
space X rockets, and those people are probably at this

1061
00:55:51,639 --> 00:55:58,440
very moment demanding that he turned them into electric vehicles somehow, somehow.

1062
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:00,199
You know, if we can just develop a start rec

1063
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:05,519
warp factor and you know, the the the replicators, all

1064
00:56:05,599 --> 00:56:09,639
will be well. All is now over because we come

1065
00:56:09,679 --> 00:56:11,360
to the end of the podcast and we release you

1066
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,239
now to your life to listen to something else. Will

1067
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,880
it be as interesting and as as wonk filled as

1068
00:56:17,639 --> 00:56:19,440
as we have given you I don't think so that's

1069
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,960
why you come back week after week. But you have

1070
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not left us a review on the Apple podcast thing,

1071
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,519
have you yet? No? No, I mean I've been begging

1072
00:56:28,519 --> 00:56:31,280
you for seven hundred and thirty two episodes. Please do

1073
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,280
it now so I can stop cavetching and covelling on't you.

1074
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1077
00:56:42,639 --> 00:56:46,400
leave this for last because it's have to say it

1078
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week after week. If you would just go over to

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ricochet dot com. Yeah, I know that place, and go

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because you're not a member. Well, you know, sign up

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1083
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you have access to the same civil center, right community

1084
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you've been looking for all your days on the internet.

1085
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Stick around. Of course, you can go to the comments

1086
00:57:06,639 --> 00:57:09,440
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1088
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1090
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1091
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Hope Charlie's with us, Steven, hope you're with us as well,

1092
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And we'll see everybody in the comments at Ricochet four

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