Speaker 1: It is the Big twelve sec breakdown time of jonestowns Bridges.
Here with you with a look at the top headlines
for across the Big Twelve and the SBC.
Speaker 2: We begin with.
Speaker 1: Our hot takes, as we do each and every week. Tom.
I know I give you a hard time, and rightfully
so to be honest about how many of these weeks
you use to give us your Oklahoma state propaganda. But
I am going to take my hot take to use
it on my Kansas Jayhawks this week. But I'm I'm
good about spreading the lave out, the love and the hate.
In this case, I'm going to tell you this right
now this. You might call this overreaction Monday, I don't care.
I am totally concerned about Jeff Grimes as Kansas's offensive coordinator.
If if it were my call, I would have fired
him Saturday night before he hopped on the plane back
to Lawrence. I think that Jeff Grimes is a terrible
OC I didn't like to hire at the time. I
thought he struggled at BYU, he struggled at Baylor, and
the offense looks so lethargic against Illinois. They weren't using
Devin Neil enough in the run game. Jalen Daniels didn't
play that great. He threw three picks. And the one
thing that's changed for this Kansas team is the offensive coordinator,
Andy Koloniki is now at Penn State. He's doing a
great job Penn State. You had this coaching staff that
was together for such a long time, dating back their
days in Wisconsin Whitewater, and now you rock the boat
a little bit. You bring in Jeff Grimes, and the
offense looked awful. So my hot take this week, I'm
very concerned about this Kansas offense, not anything to do
with the talent that's there, but the coaching. I do
not trust Jeff Grimes, and if we're up to me,
I would have fired him by now. So there's my
hot take this week. Tom, How about that for coming
in hot?
Speaker 3: That's pretty hot. What blame do you put on Jalen
Daniels being maybe not the healthiest.
Speaker 1: Well, he looks healthy. That's not the issue. He looks fine.
I just don't think that he was put in a
position to succeed. I think it was all in coaching.
Speaker 3: Is and then in here I want to hear it
from you first, what percentage chance. I think. I think,
if I remember right, he said k is gonna make Arlington.
Speaker 1: I said they go the Big twelve title game.
Speaker 3: What do you feel a little different now? Oh?
Speaker 1: I feel a lot different now now that I've seen
Jeff Grimes get exposed as offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got u NLV at Casey Sporting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's coming up on Friday.
Speaker 3: You know v You know he's not a bad team.
They're not They're not full two lane. They're not full
two lane.
Speaker 1: I mean they put thirty points up on KU and
the ball game last year.
Speaker 3: Do they worry you?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say worry. I think this is a game
that should get this team's attention. But I do worry
down the line if a big game, this offense is
an issue, and then on top of that too, if
Jeff Grimes can't put it together. I don't know this
about Lance Leipold, just because you know, he's only been
there a few years and he's had the same staff
all this time. When is enough? It's enough When Lance
Leipold says Jeff Grimes, I gotta take away play calling duties,
or you got to go elsewhere or something here like
I don't.
Speaker 3: Don't kind of save the season.
Speaker 1: That's what I wonder, Like, that's what has been concerned
is if that point needs to be reached, will it
get reached where or does.
Speaker 3: They see just say, does he just take over play
calling and be like you can just be an assistant
or help?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't see. That's the thing. I don't know
how Lance Lepholt's gonna operate and what it would take
to get to that point and if he'll do so.
Speaker 3: I mean, does he have the stammina to reach the
second half of the season, does he have the does
he have the hard dick to just tell him like, uh,
you're not gonna fuck the season up for us, I'm
taking over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know they answer that question right now?
Speaker 3: None of us very interesting. I think I think this
week for KU, who who do they have out of
the gate after week three?
Speaker 1: So they got un l V this week and then
uh the Kansas Jayhawks after this upcoming week. Uh, in
week four they'll take on Western, They'll take on West
Virginia in Morgantown.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, which they better figure it out? Should should win,
should win? But Morgantown, we know is might as well
be might as well be the upside down for strength
your things, that might as well be the stranger things
upside down.
Speaker 1: The lucky thing is they do play eleven am. Not
a night game in Morgantown.
Speaker 3: You never want that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you did win their last visit to Morgantown two
years ago. So with Jaylen Daniels starting at quarterback, so
we'll see.
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna learn a lot about this team
this weekend.
Speaker 1: I think so. I think you're right about that. What
direction you want to go with your hot take this week, Tim.
Speaker 3: I'm going to go if SEC is on the plate,
I'm gonna go with oh you. I will be at
Oklahoma State Tulsa shout out, essential professional hometown for me.
I will be back there alongside Bill. I like for
OSU to have a good showing and to put the
starters out by mid third quarter. But besides that, let's
talk about ou. Okay, this two lane team had k
State on the ropes, which is a Big twelve favorite pick.
They had him on the ropes and the offensive pass
interference called that was a pick play that was called correctly.
They do fumble it. Let them take a fumble to
the house. They essentially fucked up, kind of like Houston did.
Get in the safety. It's not to say that that
TWU lane is a team that will will fumble again,
fumble the game away against OU, even in Norman. We
know this team what two three years ago gave oh
you some trouble in Norman, right. I think that game
was supposed to be at Tulane but because of a hurricane. Yes,
they moved it to Norman. Right, they still give them trouble. No, Oh,
Willie Fritz, Yeah, the Willie Fritz team in Houston. Just no,
Michael Parratt either. Very true. Your parents will be at
this game.
Speaker 1: They will.
Speaker 3: You guys were just at the Houston game.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Oh you was very banged up. I didn't I didn't
realize how banged up. On the line, Oh you is.
Speaker 1: Oh it's bad.
Speaker 3: And a lot of OU fans are hitting the panic
button on Jackson Arl They're saying, he can't read a defense.
This is the And then I looked at it today too,
and I thought, man, this is the first homegrown OHEU
quarterback since technically Caleb, but really since Caleb left technically
Landry Jones, Is that right?
Speaker 1: You had Spencer Rattler before that.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, Spencer, Spencer that got the people call him Caleb. Yes,
and now Spencer is an NFL quarterback and did decent
with South Carolina. But that's that's a good point. He's
easily forgettable for multiple reasons, but.
Speaker 1: Good to the point. Where are we going here?
Speaker 3: I think, Oh you loses this weekend against two Lane
by ten points? Woo, that's my hot take of the week.
Speaker 1: You know, uh, oh use bet a sixteen point favorite
this week?
Speaker 3: What were they against Houston? Twenty Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was like it was ridiculous. It was like twenty eight. Yeah,
what have surprised me? If Oh You loses this weekend?
Not at all? Oh you did not look good last week.
I think this is a big test for printftables. I
think if you're an Ou fan, Tom, the only way
you could be happy after this weekend is if you
blow out too late. Anything less than a blowout too Lane,
I think is a red flag for this out because
that Houston game should have gotten their attention.
Speaker 3: Because then the first SEC game is it is it Tennessee.
Speaker 1: But's it's at Auburn first, and then they host and.
Speaker 3: Jordan Hare and come to town.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Tennessee.
Speaker 3: Oh and you know, just Hypel's fucking got you know,
he's ready to fuck Oh he is, and I mean
rightfully so, but he's I think I think he probably
circled that game and said, all right, we're gonna go
in to Norman and we're gonna be like, hey, I
was quarterback here one, how about this?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Like right, I mean rightfully. So he's gonna say, hey, Josh,
hipepol is somewhat disrespected in Norman, and for some good reasons,
for some bad reason, but he's gonna walk in there
and say, hey, Tennessee has shown some promise this season.
They want to be one of those SEC teams that's
in the Big twelve or in the not Big twelve
he called the Big twelve playoff whatever whoever said that
for Big twelve teams they're gonna play. That's not gonna happen,
but Big the twelve team playoff. Tennessee wants to be there.
They might not win the SEC, but they plan to
be there in the in the final twelve. And one
of the obstacles they have is ou and it's not
easy to play a Norman. Josh Appel is gonna have
his team ready, and I don't know that Brett Vinnables
has his team ready yet. Yeah, we're gonna learn a lot.
We're gonna learn. There's a couple of games and we're
gonna we are going to learn. There's a lot. We
have a lot of learning to do this weekend across
the whole landscape Kansas, Arizona. We have learning to do
two Lane. Oh you, we have learning. We have learning
to do. It's it's it's a lesson this weekend.
Speaker 1: It's it's a bad slate of games this week. If
we're gonna be completely honest, but usually this is the
type of weeks when we see some crazy upsets happen
and yeah, you know, shit go down. So yeah, oh you.
I think anything less than a blowout this week is
a failure. I think that needs to be the mindset.
They need to go in there and they need to kick.
Anything less than that is uh is gonna come up short.
They need to make it.
Speaker 3: Do you think they blow out two Lane?
Speaker 1: I don't think they will, but I think that should
be the goal.
Speaker 3: I think it could go one or two ways either.
I think oh you says, hey, wait a second or
so you we're gonna fuck you, or two Lane is
gonna come in and they're gonna be like, oh shit,
our line is just trash.
Speaker 1: That's that's not against the spread? Oh use like a
sixteen point favorite. I'm staying away from that game completely.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be in a legal betting state this weekend.
I'll be betting on games, but that is one I
will not touch. I will stay far away from.
Speaker 3: Would you choose O you money line?
Speaker 1: That'd be a waste of money. I can't make any
money I owe you in the money line.
Speaker 3: I guess yeah, you probably just get like maybe half
your overall bet.
Speaker 1: Not even that. No, there's no value there. No, I'm not.
I'm not wasting my time with enough about oh you. Now,
I've had enough talking about you. You're the one that
brought this up, I know, which is all on you,
all on you. Enough about those suitors. I do want
to talk about Colorado, Thomas's other favorite team. I loves
coach Briant, he loves it or and Travis Hunter and
the whole crew. Just an awful loss last week in
Nebraska granted, I think Matt Rules did a great job.
I think he's much improved. That Nebraska program is trending
the right direction. I expect him to be Bowe eligible
and to be a good football team. I like what
Matt Rule's done there. With that said, Tom, this might
be an overreaction as well, but I'll go ahead and
say it. I feel like that was lights out exit
stage left on the Colorado experience. I feel like it's
over now. Like now we're just counting down in the
days until Shador and Travis are in the NFL. I
don't think Dion's gonna be back next year. I'm not
saying he's gonna get fired, but I can see him
just stepping away and saying that, you know, hey, enough's enough.
I'm gonna go watch my kids play in the NFL
and do their thing. I'm gonna go back to being
a celebrity and you know, a reality TV star or whatever,
go be an analyst. Like I feel like, kids, it's over.
It's jover for Colorado. I think that was the the
last oh Rah. I don't expect him to be Colorado
State this week. Uh, it was fun. Wat lasted Colorado.
It was Uh, it was an interesting journey for us
to get to this point. But I feel like we
can we can shut up about Colorado now that their
their story is is finished.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I think I think Colorado somewhat new
that's like, yo, when this this, this guy's kids are done,
we're probably done. And and they've made a lot of money, right,
They've made a lot of money off just just the
high And I think they kind of knew that, Like
Shiloh broken arm, he's probably out what eight weeks? He
wasn't really that big of a player. And I think
I think sometimes Dion probably considers Travis Hunter more of
his kid than he even Shador, right, Like he's like, oh,
he was really the chosen one.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: But I mean, is Colorado gonna make a Bowl game
right now? To no?
Speaker 1: No chance?
Speaker 3: I mean for Nebraska to do what they did. What
was the final score? Twenty eight ten?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could have been a lot worse too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And and and just for all the the flag
surrounding them, Like once Shador's gone, Travis Hunter is gonna
be gone. Why why in the fuck with Dion stay
He's not He's not And and and it is going
to almost put Colorado in a very very very deep poll.
Who's gonna take that job? Yeah, Tom fucking Herman.
Speaker 1: I mean, if Dion had all that talent, could have
do anything with it, then that's just gonna be a
tough place to win.
Speaker 3: It's I mean, they're gonna be the cupcake that they
were before alongside of Baylor. Like that's just what it is.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing too, Tom, I think this is
a good example for college football. You look back at
that last coaching cycle. Colorado goes with the flashy guy, Dion,
Nebraska goes with the I would say, the gritty guy
in Matt Rule. And I don't know if Matt Rule
would ever taken the Colorado job, but it's it's two philosophies.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Nebraska was not good last year. They got better as
the season went along. But Matt Rule's gone about this
the right way, investing in high school recruiting and building
that thing up du the little steps. And they got
shellacked by Colorado last year.
Speaker 3: Year.
Speaker 1: Fast forward of this year this rematch, and I think
it goes to show what Colorado did wrong. They went
for the the easy fix, They went for the shot
in the arm when that program really needed surgery. Nebraska
went through surgery with Matt Rule, and now they're going
to get the long term effects. I think that both
those programs were in similar spots and it's a it's
a good example of how to approach these things, like
you don't take the easy way out. Sometimes you have
to have surgery. And that's what Nebraska is doing with
Matt Rule compared to Colorado with Dialon here well.
Speaker 3: And Matt Rule is the numbers guy.
Speaker 1: Like Matt Rule, he's an analytics nerd.
Speaker 3: He's yeah, he's a yeah, for lack of a better term,
he's a fucking nerd, right Like he's a he's a tactician, dude,
he knows that's and and Dion is just like a
more better than you, we have more talent. Dion is
not a great coach. He's a great motivator. He's a
great he's a great like we're gonna hype you up
in the locker room and you know, like go out
and beat their assad. He's Dion has never been just
a great coach. He's a money maker. Like the Colorado
knew what they were getting in him, and they knew
he wasn't just some guy that was gonna coach. He's
not a Dave Randa. He's not a Matt Ruhle. He's
not a Kyle winning him like he is a he
has a Mike Gundy that that doesn't get the best
out of his players, Like he has a lot of
shit to say, and he thinks he should be the best,
and it just doesn't end up like that, Like it
just doesn't like And he has his kid's best interest
in mine, which is fine, which is fine, Like you
do have Travis Hunter with now after Colorado's gonna I
don't know who their next game against. I this week
rivalry game, and they could probably lose it. I think
they will. And and at that point, if you go
down one and two record and you lose the Nebraska
and Colorado State, I don't know who their first Big twelve.
I don't know what week four holds in holds for them.
But if you start out, let's say they start the
first five weeks two and three or even one in four,
it's gonna fall apart. Jones, we're talking college football. But
I want your opinion here, if you're an NFL GM,
how far does Shador's draft stock drop? Because his dad's
a fucking asshole. I don't think or to be fair,
Shador has thrown his offensive line under the bus. He's
essentially thrown his whole team under the bus. Oh yeah, well,
he's an identical he's just like his dad, well.
Speaker 1: Saying that he's a combination of Tom Brady and Mike Vick. Meanwhile,
he can't run and he's.
Speaker 3: Really not that good.
Speaker 1: It's not horrible.
Speaker 3: I would I take him on an Oshue above Bowman, Yes,
but not with his dad.
Speaker 1: I think that at the next level he's Gino Smith.
But the difference between him and Gino Gino has no
ego about it. Gino is super confident, but he's not egotistical,
and Gino has fought for everything that he's gotten.
Speaker 3: He Mike, do you touch Shador?
Speaker 1: When Shador's face adversity. He hasn't done well, he hasn't
done well with it well.
Speaker 3: And then when he does, he throws his own teammates
in the bus. Who wants that? Right?
Speaker 1: I think Shador is still, without question a first round pick,
and part of ask to do with this quarterback class
isn't that great to begin with? I would I would
still be very hesitant to bring him in and to
keep him locked in, keep him in check. I think
it's a great point. A couple more things I want
to get to before we go over the Big Twelve
at sec swates this week. Texas with that big win
at the Big House against Michigan just dominated that game
from start to finish. I think this Texas team looks
like a national title contender right now. Quinn Ewrs look fantastic.
I think Tom it's it's about time we give Sark
his flowers. As much as I hate to say, you know,
it pains me to give any credit to the University
of Texas, but always be fair. And last year going
to the playoff winning the Big Twelve, that was not
a fluke. Here they are. They come in and they
dominate Michigan the way that they did, replacing guys like
Xavier Worthy, ad Night Mitchell, Byron Murphy to and Andre Sweat,
and this team hasn't missed a beat. Bond looks really good.
I mean, even losing their running back at the beginning
of the year and the run game was just fine.
I think Stark deserves a lot of credit. I'm not
gonna sit here and say that Texas is going to
win the national title. But I don't think right now
you can have a national title discussion without mentioning the
University of Texas right now.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think. I don't think you can. I
don't like Texas. Is am I wrong to say they've
looked the best?
Speaker 1: Maybe?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: I mean forty nine to nothing in week one and
then just blow the doors off of Michigan on the
road week two. I mean it's a great start.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean not only like they handled They
handled Michigan.
Speaker 1: That game was never in question.
Speaker 3: No, I mean like that was, and I think it
was an early game. It was an early game, and
so people kind of overlooked it. There was a lot
of ship that happened this week. Iowa State could have
lost to Iowa. They get a final field goal, Michigan
State beats Maryland on the final field goal. Oklahoma State
runs to that little fucking gotwin. Like I think if
that was a late game, we're talking about it a lot.
It hasn't been talked enough about, right it really hasn't.
And I think that if it was talked more about,
we haven't given And I hate to say it as
like a I don't like Texas. I don't like ou,
but Sark has to have his flowers. They and I
know that you'll talk to Bo about it later on.
They lost a lot in the Agregain And I don't
know if it's n I l or that they finally
have a competent coach. It's not Tom Herman or Charlie Strong,
but this is the first Texas team that feels as
competent as a strong Mac Brown team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and to think too like I think the
Sark's credit. I like Sark. I'm I'm not I don't
room for Texas, but I like Sark.
Speaker 3: And for me, I like I hate to say that
I like Sark. You can't hate You can hate Tom Herman,
you can hate Charlie Strong. Can you really hate Sark?
Speaker 1: What does he And here's why? For me this is this.
I don't think this gets talked about enough. Sark is
one of the best comeback stories we've seen in college
football ever. To think that this guy was, I'm gonna
be honest.
Speaker 4: Here an alcoholic, enough of an alcoholic to lose his
job at USC to go to rehab, he lost his merit,
goes to Alabama as an analyst, wasn't even hired as
a coordinator, and then gets promoted, goes to the NFL,
did a terrible job at the NFL. By I add,
you was awful as the Falcons.
Speaker 1: O see comes back to college, wins with Saban, then
goes to Texas and it wasn't all flowers and rainbows
to begin with. They had a five win year where
they lost to KU his first year and now look
where they're at. Like to me, Sark, say what you
want about the University of Texas, but Sark deserves a
ton of credit. I think you don't even have to
like Texas to recognize Sark and what he's done and
what he's overcome, both professionally and personally. I think it's
a hell of a story. Tom. And you know, I
think that no matter what, he could never win. Even
if he doesn't win a national championship of Texas, I
think that this is a success. To see where he's
come from to where he is now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to say I agree. I mean, he's
he's done a lot and compared to others that he's
done what he's needed to do and it's it's been impressive. Honestly,
he's had it since since Mac Brown. I mean he's
been the best coach since then. Then it took a decade.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one more note before we go on to the
slate of games here real quick, tom Yukon ultimately gets
turned down by the Big Twelve. They didn't have enough
votes to pass accepting membership for Yukon into the league.
I know that Brett Yormark had pushed it heavy. They
had a plan in place potentially for them to join
the league's of football twenty thirty one and to play
in basketball at Olympic Sports from twenty twenty six on.
They say no, and you and I we said we
liked the plan, but at the end of the day,
the Big Twelve presidents and eights disagreed. I don't hate this.
I like the Big Twelve being a little cautious here.
I know that we've appreciated them being aggressive, but I
think there's some major red flags's Yukon's football program, and
you didn't want to risk losing revenue here. It's not
like Yukon is just gonna go away. It's not like
you have to worry about another league stealing Yukon here.
You didn't have to add them now, so you don't
have to add them now. They're still in your back pocket.
I'm okay with tabling this Yukon discussion and bringing this
back up again in the future. They didn't say no forever,
they just said no for now.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I just think during football season, when
Yukon is not a football player, is a little bit egregious.
I think that they could have timed this a little
bit better. We don't need this in football season. Yukon's
not a threat. Yukon doesn't do whatever, Like we can
push them out to whenever, like we don't. We don't
need to talk about the Huskies in football season, like no,
Like that's like talking about summer and fall.
Speaker 1: Like right, that's the time for conference membership discussion is
June through August. It's not in September.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like we can wait, Like it's not gonna get
done this offseason. It's not gonna get done this basketball season.
Like arguably, if you Yukon wants to join, we're not
gonna see him til twenty twenty seven. I think I
think next season or twenty twenty six was a little
bit I didn't whatever term you want to use, common evident. Yeah,
like no, no, no, no, no, there there's some ship starts
to take place. All right, we can get him. I
hope we get him, but like the timeline, like, let's
not get let's do it the right way wild, you know,
let's do it the right way. Let's not get wild.
We're not just gonna just put him right in the bed,
like and.
Speaker 1: And let's see how the acc works out.
Speaker 3: Like maybe you feel like there's there's a waiting period
for a reason. We gotta let's wait for a second
and see that plays out.
Speaker 1: If if somehow Florida Stanton Clipson become available, why the
hell would you touch Yukon?
Speaker 3: You know, it's like not having sex on the first date, right, Yes,
but we'll wait till date three. Let's let's wait till
the third day and then we'll have sex. Like, we
don't need to funk on the first date.
Speaker 1: Mark. I know you're aggressive, man, but sometimes you gotta
keep in your hocket.
Speaker 3: My god, I mean yeah, you got to keep it
in your pants, brother, Like, like, we don't need to
fuck on the thirst day. We can listen, he's fucked
on enough first date. It's that got us where we are.
That we can. We have the privilege now to wait, right,
we are to dig on the first day.
Speaker 1: You know what you're doing.
Speaker 3: Man, God, that sounds horrible, but it's not wrong.
Speaker 1: No, you're not wrong at all. Let's go ahead and
go through the uh the slate of game, starting with
a big twelve rapid fire.
Speaker 3: We'll go through these real quick.
Speaker 1: Arizona State Texas State Thursday night, Arizona State slight favorites
tuuoh start Texas State coach by GJ. Kinney, former Tulsa
Hurricane quarterback.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: There, that should be a sneaky good football game. I
love what Kenny Dillyham's doing at Arizona State. Their there
win against Mississippi State on Saturday night time, first ever
win for Arizona State against an SEC team ever.
Speaker 3: That's pretty impressive. Now, it wasn't the most prison of
SEC team.
Speaker 1: It was probably the worst one.
Speaker 3: But yes, I mean, what's what Vanderbilt's done? Yeah? Maybe
the worst?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kansas sticks on you and lv We kind of
talked about that earlier. Tom. If you're looking for a
get right game, this isn't necessarily it because k was
only a seven a half point favorite here. Uh, Ky's
got to come in and and figure this thing out
pretty quick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do. They really, they really have to. They
really have to come in and get the job done.
And you know the once one revenge. Yeah yeah. And
two it's that case sporting casey and three and LV
is looking really good.
Speaker 1: They have, they have they should have their full attention.
My favorite game might not be the best game, but
my favorite game of the entire weekend. Number twenty Arizona
number fourteen KSE State. Technically a non conference game between
these two teams. The game takes place in Manhattan, It's
on a Friday night. Both teams have struggled defensively. Here
Tom and old reality. It might be the first of
forty five wins this football game. I think there's gonna
be offensive fireworks. I lean towards KSE State, but a
seven point favorite, I'd be taking Arizona to cover that
seven right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be. Is it in Manhattan? You think Adden? Yes?
I mean yeah, Arkansas's defense is that I think Arizona
am I wrong? It's two lanes defense a little bit
better than Arizona's now Arkansas.
Speaker 1: Sorry probably so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be interested to seeing and I I think
that's been a big issue for Arizona that they said, well,
you have put up a lot of points on these
other people with Noah Fivida and there Blintikov winner future
Blointakov winner wide receiver. Right, yeah, you put up a
lot of points. What what's gonna happen with your defense? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, OSU takes on Tulsa. We talked about that earlier.
OSU should be able to blow out Tulsa just fine.
Tulsa is not a very good football team. Cincinnati taking
on Miami of Ohio. Cincinnati is a three and a
half point favorite in a rivalry game. There Cincinnati at
one and one. These are games you can't afford to lose,
even if it's a road game, you can't lose. That
same can be said for Texas Tech taking out North Texas.
I know Texas Texas probably gets him. Texas Texans not
and a half point favorite at home. Tech better learned
how to play defense. I think that's that's a sneaky
good game potential.
Speaker 3: Or they're gonna need another drunk driver to.
Speaker 1: Hit the bus. Ooh, backyard brawl. West Virginia taking on
pitt You already lost to Penn State pretty decisively.
Speaker 3: This is a high fire, fire game for higher fire
Neil Brown game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no going back if you lose this one.
Speaker 3: This defines the whole season if you're the head coach,
which is Neil Brown.
Speaker 1: This is a must win game for West Virginia in
Morgan in Pittsburgh. Utah taken on Utah State. Utah should
be fine. We'll see what cam rising status is with
the hand injury. Baylor take it on Air Force. Baylor
sitting at one and one. They played better than I
expected last week against Utah. Can't be losing the Service
academies though. Colorado Day and Colorado Brado State. We talked
about that earlier. I think Colorado State's gonna win it
and we're gonna say good night to Colorado. I think
it's it's jover for them. Jay Norvell doing a sneaky
good job with that Colorado State program. This is speaking
of sneaky good Tom, I think this might be the
sneaky good game of the weekend u c F TCU
in prime time Saturday night on Big Fox. UCF is
a two and a half point favorite. Both these teams
have looked really good. The winner of this game, first
conference game for both teams. I think he's got a
shot to contend for the Big Twelve potentially. I've liked
what I've seen from both these squads. I think that's
a sneaky good game.
Speaker 3: I think it is too. I think for what they've
got going, I.
Speaker 1: Put quarterback matchup two Hoovers. Well, kJ Jefferson's played well, yeah,
that'll be fun.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's gonna be fun. And you know
he moved from what Florida to Arkansas UCF. Yeah, he
hasn't been that impressive through two games so far for UCF,
I'm not but but the running back Harvey R. J.
Harvey has been super impressive. So I'm very interested to
see what happens in that game. It's that that's on
my radar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, Houston taking on Rice battle for the City
of Houston. Houston's a four point favorite. Houston's looks so,
you know, interesting, right up and down, right up and down.
Like their defense played really well against OU, but their
offense still couldn't do shit last week. I mean, they
should win that game, but it's their offense gonna actually
be able to score. We'll see BYU taking on Wyoming
Wyoming at oh and two by U two and oh.
I was at that BYU SMU game on Friday. That
BYU offense is atrocious, But I still think they should
beat Wyoming as far as that goes to the SEC
slide starting on Big Noon, Alabama taking out Wisconsin. Alabama,
what's really good? Week one? Week two? They let usf
hang around for three quarters and then they finished them
off with the fourth quarter. And now you go to
Camp Randall, a road environment with a first year head
coach in Kaitlin de Boor. This is a really good test.
I don't think Wisconsin's that great of a team, but
the environment, the road game, and all time, like, I'm
very intrigued to see what Camelin de Boor has for
his team. We're gonna find out a lot about this
Alabama team here. If if they go in and dominate
Wisconsin and Alabama's legit, if they struggle here, then then
we can kind of put Alabama on the back burners here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think a lot of it is
gonna determine.
Speaker 2: Kind of kind of.
Speaker 3: How they move ahead. And I'm very interested to see
how they move ahead. I know they have that for
lack of a better term on their head. Ooh, I
think I think that might be the the up and down,
if you want to put it that way.
Speaker 1: LSU South Carolina. South Carolina surprising everybody at two to
zero on the season. Good start for them, nice win
against Kentucky last week. LSU going on the road. They're
seven point favorites. LSU still trying to recover from that
lost to USC week one. This to me road environment
the SEC, it's primetime at all. This is a good
chance for LSU to make a response that they're not
going away, that there's still a threat in the SEC.
I like LSU to win this game pretty handily here, Tom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is the time for Brian Kelly
to to really do it.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 3: It's not looking the best, but.
Speaker 1: Right he does bad Week one, he does find elsewhere
he's glad this Week three. Finally, Miszoon in Boston College
in a top twenty five matchup. Miszoo number six in
the Land BC twenty four. PC had that nice win
against Florida State a couple of weeks ago on Monday Night.
Missoo's looked really good through two weeks. Boston College a
sixteen point underdog this game early morning kick Top twenty
five matchup. Let's let's finally see what Missoo's about. I'm
I'm glad to see what uh Missoo's gonna do when
they're kind of tested here of sorts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very interested to see what Missou does. I
think are they gonna crumble under the pressure? Like, does
does missou have enough.
Speaker 1: To go to Missou?
Speaker 3: Yeah? The does Missou have enough to like really be like,
oh yeah, we're Missou, We're ranked whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: We talked about OU two lane earlier. I said that
I think, oh, you need to blow out Tu Lane
Texas A and M taking on Florida.
Speaker 2: I like A and M.
Speaker 1: I like A and M big start getting out the
tarmac for Billy Napier here. I mean, it's it's not
looking good. It's not gonna get any better anytime soon
for that Florida team. Arkansas takes on youab. I think
Arkansas impressed last week, even in the loss, but I
still don't believe in Sam Pittman and Tom If I'm Arkansas.
If the losses start to pile up, they gotta be
thinking about who their offensive coordinator is I'm hoping nothing
against Sam Pittman.
Speaker 3: I like the guy.
Speaker 1: He's a fun coach, he's a good guy. But selfishly,
I'm hoping that we get to see Bobby Patrino at
some point this year be the interim head coach there
for the Hogs and get a second chance at that job.
Speaker 3: We don't see him this year, We'll see him next year.
Speaker 1: Ole Miss takes un A wake Forest. Ole Miss should
kick the crap out of wake Forest. Ole Miss is
a great football team. Texas taken on UTSA, coming off
a big win against Michigan. UTSA one of the better
teams in the group of five. I know they have
a loss. Does Texas have a letdown here?
Speaker 3: This?
Speaker 1: To me, that's a tricky spot. That's a trap game.
Despite Texas being thirty five and a half point favorites.
Vandy taking on Georgia State on the road, I think
Vandy has been better than advertised. Georgia takes on Kentucky.
Georgia a thirty four point favorite. Actually I right there wrong,
twenty four point favorite going on the road. Kentucky looked
bad last week. Georgia should be fine. Auburn takes on
New Mexico. I think Auburn's gonna be okay. Mississippi State
taking out in Toledo. Didn't like what I saw from
Mississippi State last week in their lost Arizona State. We'll
see how they respond. Tennessee taking on Kent State. Tennessee's
legit Nico is a hell of a quarterback. They got
a good team. I think dump all the crap out
of Kent State. So there you haven't. That is our
look around the Big Twelve and the SEC this week. Mortcalm,
stay with us as we continue. Joining us now on
the program this week, Please do well. Come in Fox
Sports broadcaster for college football and college basketball. You know him,
you love him. Tim Brando is here with us. Timmy B.
Always a pleasure anytime we get the chance to chet,
my friend, and you're about to embark on a new endeavor.
Call it the first ever Friday night game a part
of this new package on Fox. A really good matchup.
My favorite game of the entire weekend, Arizona and k State.
Timmy B. How excited you about this one?
Speaker 2: You know, through the years, Tyler, in my profession, I've
had I've had the opportunity to do a lot of
first you know, first packages, first games, but I've also
done the last games. I've put leagues out of business,
like the USFL you know a lot of other things.
So those opportunities only you know come up. There's only
going to be one first of the probably that package.
And Devin Gardner, who's my new partner. You know, after
twenty five years Spencer, we were broken up, and when
they told us about it in July, at first it
was it was a little hard to take, you know,
I didn't necessarily see it coming. But when I was
told I was going to be with Devon and they
explained to me what they had in mind. Devon Gardner,
the former Michigan quarterback, is a really, really talented young guy.
He's two years younger than my younger daughter, so you know,
there is an age gap. But you know, I knew
Devin when he played at Michigan, and he's a colorful,
excitable guy that really knows the game and digs in,
has tremendous passion for it and a lot of the
games that we're going to be doing on Friday nights,
they're going to involve big ten teams, and I think
that's one of the reasons why they liked the idea
of having a fresh face and voice a part of that.
And I don't think we're going to do necessarily all
the games that are on Friday nights, but I think
we'll do more than half, you know, they even maybe
even most of the Friday night games. And if that's
the case, then it matters to them that he have
an experienced hand along with him, and I think that's
my task is to have him get as comfortable as
he can be so he can be his best version
of himself. And at this stage of my career, that's
something that you know, when I convinced them to hire
me ten years ago in twenty fourteen, that's one of
the things I pointed out to them, you know, not
knowing that Spencer would rejoin me a year later when
his deal was up and Joel Klatt and Brady Quinn
were leaving me to go on to different assignments. I
worked with him my very first year, but other than that,
I've been with Spencer for sixteen years of my eighteen
at CBS, and then he came in and we were
reconnected for nine more years. So we had a tremendous
run the two of us and he's still with us.
He's working with Erict Collins and doing games. You'll be
at the Iowa State for the game with Troy on
FS one on Saturday. So and they gave him a
multi year deal, so he's happy, and I'm happy. Sometimes
change is good, you know, And I'm really really impressed
with the future he's got, and more and more people
are going to get the scene because these Thursday night
games are if not unopposed. You know, ESPN might have
a game on opposite us, but it won't be of
the same caliber. It won't be the same anticipated game
out of a power conference like either the Big Twelve
or the Big Ten. So I think there'll be a
lot of eyeballs on it, and I'm happy about it.
This is a great first game for you know, two
teams that both believe they can win the Big Twelve.
And now with the information that's out there regarding Cam
Rising and his injured hand, I don't know if he'll
be able to go this week or not. But you know,
Utah was picked to win the Big Twelve. They've got
a tough test this week too, and you know, chances
are Kansas State would be the next the next team.
I think they were preseason number two in the Big Twelve.
And Arizona's loaded. You know, they returned most of that
defense and offense that you know won seven straight games,
and now you know, they've got the longest winning streak
in the country now with nine straight wins. So that
it's a highly anticipated game, no doubt about it. And
you know, next week we'll get Illinois and Nebraska, which
will be a four hundred consecutive sellout in Lincoln, and
Illinois is riding high after beating Kansas as a as
an underdog and campaign last week. So really through about
the game. And you can tell here at our meetings,
we met with Avery Johnson, who's a rock star. You know,
his nickname is Sunshine because he looks like the kid
from Remember the Titans. He really does, and he's a
great talent and you know, could go down as the
one of the all time quarterbacks in the history of
the school. But they're going to get a test from
this Arizona team, and so it should be a lot
of fun and we're really looking forward to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, technically a non conference game, but I imagine that
Arizona is still taking the approach that this is their
introduction to the Big twelve Conference with this.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, and yeah, And the only the only
reason it's not the only reason it's not a conference
game is it was scheduled ahead of time and I
think I think either the regard regardless of the facts,
not the conference game. In talking with both coaches, and
we talked yesterday via zoom with with Brent Brennan, who
I know really really well and covered his Mount West
title team during the COVID year in twenty at Santasa State,
they know that the narrative for both of both of
these teams will create the narrative for themselves for how
this season is going to go. With the out come
of this game. You know, the winner of this game
is automatically Don Jennison in the polls. And you know,
before the committee, you know, we're talking about twelve teams
this year, so you know, it's a great opportunity to
get to jump start on you know, the images and
impressions that you're setting for yourself.
Speaker 1: Oh. Absolutely. And the two quarterbacks in this game both
a lot of talent. One's a little more experienced than
the other one. Here we've seen both these put up
some points the last couple of weeks. You expecting this
game to be kind of an old school Pit twelve
shoot out here.
Speaker 2: You'd think so. But but let me say this. Okay,
Northern Arizona, a team that really knows Arizona very well,
did a nice job defensively on Cafita and team Matt McMillan,
his go to receiver. You know, those guys have been
together playing together since their days in Pop Warner Ball,
and they were able to shut him down. They kind
of took him away, and he's always sort of the
first read for no offense FIDA and I'll be interested
to see, you know, Joe Klanderman's defense. As you know,
they they gave up a lot of yards to Tu
Lane and that's a tough place to have to go
on the road and play. And you know, because two
lane's really good, they might upset Oklahoma, they're that good.
And they got a great young quarterback there, and they
got exposed a little bit in that game. But that
being said, go to Arizona, get exposed by the Northern
Arizona defense. If you can somehow bracket or just keep
the ball out of McMillan's hands number four. Then it
kind of you're taking away really the what their offense
is all built about. They've got other good players, good receivers,
no doubt about it. But you know, a lot of
times when we look at these matchups and we see,
you know, high powered offenses, it seems that sometimes it's
you know, the defenses in a certain matchup might have
a little bit of an advantage. And I think Kansas
State's defense, who's played together, you know, longer than the
Arizona offense has been together, they might have an advantage
in this game. And Klannuman certainly got their attention from
really the midway point when they were down twenty to
ten to two lane to come away with that win,
even got to scoop and score. You know, their defense
scored a touchdown. So I think Arizona definitely wants the
highest scoring game, but I don't know that Kansas State does.
I think they wouldn't mind it at all. If you know,
if the winner of this game didn't score, say more
than you know, twenty eight points or thirty one points, right,
I think at first glance, when you look at the
numbers just on paper, you'd say, oh, first one to
forty five, right, or first one to fifth part, I
think that might not be the case. I think it
might be you know, maybe first one to thirty five
or first one to thirty one to win this game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could certainly see that. We're talking to Tim
Brando of Fox Sports here on the program this week,
Timmy b. When you look at the Big Twelve Conference
throughout these first couple of weeks, you mentioned some really
good teams. When you talk Utah K State, I still think, KAYU,
my own school is still pretty good even with that
loss week at all, gonna be a fun year. I mean,
this league feels like it's wide open entering twenty twenty
four here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, yeah a ton of teams. I
mean West Virginia look bad in their opener against Penn State,
I know, and that game sort of fooled me a
little bit. I think Garrett Green is really a much
better quarterback than he illustrated in that first game. I
don't anybody that goes on the road and beach them
is gonna, you know, achieve something. Oklahoma State, of course,
as you know, it's Utah, and you know they got
held on the ground, they're great running back only had
forty nine yards, but end of the game and overtime, yeah,
Ali Gordon made the plays both as a receiver as
well as a runner. And Dundee's teams are always you know,
when they're devalued in the preseason, and I thought this
year they were kind of overlooked. That's when the Cowboys
are really good. So and they got to be thinking
to some extent, Hey, with Oklahoma and Texas gone, we're
the big dogs, right, We're the public school that's got
the most We're the public school that's got the most
you know, skins on our wall in terms of Big
twelve winners. And Dundey's been around for such a long time,
so they are as many as seven teams, I think,
really seven teams that can win the league. And I
think the narrative outside the conference in a lot of
ways has been well, all they'll cannibalize each other and
the team that wins the conference title will have three
losses and they'll only get one team in. I think
that's the way a lot of pundits, particularly those that
look down their noses at anything not SEC or Big ten.
But I like to see college football right now. But
I wouldn't be shocked. I wouldn't be shocked at all
if a Kansas State or or in Oklahoma State, or
you know, pick that team that doesn't have a loss,
pulls a TCU from twenty two and goes out and
wins eight to nine in a row and have some
sort of gaudy record either undefeated or with one loss
going into the postseason. If that's the case, and we
have another team out there that only has one loss
or two and as you know, everybody's not playing everybody
who knows, maybe there'll be a big Steeler out there,
and there could be two that get in that the
league from the bottom to the top is the most
balanced and I think the most competitive in the country.
Speaker 1: I agree, I'm with you. I think that it's gonna
be a lot of fun. We didn't even mention Iowa State,
who got a nice win against Iowa this past.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Big Twelve. The Big Twelve had a hell
of a week last week. Really, uh Kay State was looked,
looked to be dead and buried, came back, won the
game on the road against a really powerful group of
five school that I would argue could play and at
the Power five level and is only two postseasons removed
from beating USC with Tayler Williams at quarterback. All right,
So I mean that's that was. That was a hell
of a week for the Big Twelve and the NCC
by comparison, they played non conference games and lost some
of them at home. Cal went into Auburn and beat them.
Yeah to me, and and Alabama has not been that
that strong. Georgia and Texas looked legit, but I don't
know how much stronger. I mean, we don't know about Missouri, Tennessee, LSU.
Speaker 3: We don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you may, great boy, timvvy uh, let
me ask you you're not. We've been exchanging some sex
messages back and forth the last couple of weeks talking
about this in the UH in the future of it,
and you know, you had the rumblings about Yukon that's
been tabled away. But this feels like the first time
in a long time that the Big twelve is in
a position of strength there that Brett yor Mark has
got this conference with momentum that they're heading in the
right direction here. How do you feel about where the
Big twelve is at and where they could potentially go
from here this league potentially poaching Yukon or Gonzaga or
maybe some of these ACC teams. What do you think's
next for your mark? What's what's he got lined up here?
Speaker 2: Well, all of college football is in a state of transition,
as was announced earlier overnight really from Thursday night, from
Wednesday night into Thursday morning. You know, the the new
schools from the Mountain US that have already accepted invitations
into the new version of the PAC twelve, the new
iteration of the PAC twelve. Washington State and Oregon State
got all of that money from the lawsuit that they
won with the other schools that vacated the PAC twelve
to go to the Big Ten of the Big twelve,
they can help use that money to help those schools
buy themselves out of the Mountain West Field.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I think there'll be a few more teams that join them,
and you look at I think the Yukon situation is
all going to be based on how interested is the
Big twelve and taking on football as well as basketball,
because that's what Yukon wants. And if Yukon doesn't get that,
the Big Twelve may not be as interested. I'm not
sure how the presidents and athletic directors within the Big
twelve field about accepting yukon football. If you him say one,
you have to take the other. I'm going to talk
to Bret or Mark tomorrow. He's going to be at
the game, as I understand it, and I look forward
to chatting with him about just that a few other things.
But I don't think the league has ever been in
a more commanding position. I was impressed with him from
day one. You know, the Texwell found themselves in the
situation they did because they were asleep at the wheel
with all the changes that were going on in the
television world. Meanwhile, your Mark was going to work to
replace Oklahoma and Texas, and he did so by adding
really quality teams out of the American Conference and then
to procure BYU to go with it, to go with
Utah and add a rivalry game, a huge rivalry game
that's pretty big and if you look at and by
the way, I think we didn't talk about UCF. We're
playing TCU this Saturday night on Fox, and I'm going
to tell you TCU I think believes that they can
rebound that last year was the apparition, not twenty two,
but UCF as a quarterback, you better keep your eye
on him. He could be a problem. And that team
with Malazan as coach is going to be a dangerous team.
I think this year. They struggled obviously in year one,
as did Cincinnati, but I think the addition of those schools, Yeah,
you don't have anyone that with the marquee value of
an Oklahoma or Texas. But your Mark went out and
got a television deal that was worth his member institutions
more money without Texas and O you than it was
with Texas and OU. Well, plus all the members are
getting the same cash. You don't have the ego problems
that you had when OU and Texas were in the
league and it was not on a level playing field
in terms of distribution of money. So I don't think
the conference has ever been tyler in better shape than
it is right now, and it's only going to get better.
Speaker 1: Oh, I agree. And when you look at just what
potentially could happen in here with the ACC situation, I
don't think anything's off the table right now for the
Big twelve. Just we don't know what the Big ten
and the SEC how interested they are. You know, we've
seen Florida State and Clemson's name pop up. Miami's playing
some better football as of late. I would think timmy be.
The only team that the Big Twelve probably couldn't have
a conversation with is probably North Carolina. I think they're
going to have their choice between those two leagues, but
maybe everybody else might be up for grabs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. North Carolina and Virginia, Okay, would likely
be teams that could be looking at. I think Virginia
would be some a team that the Big Ten would
be interested in. North Carolina certainly could have both of
those conferences interested in them. Yeah, everybody else would be
there's a fair game. And in Florida State with all
the noise that they've made, and they got a little
bit of egg on their page, you know, with how
their team has been performing, you know, to start the season.
But they may have no option better than the Big Twelve.
I mean, the potential was there that that that that league, uh,
you know, they the best they could do possibly could
be the Big Twelve. And I know that's a reality
that a lot of their alumni doesn't want to face.
But there may be some truth to that. Florida and Miami. Uh,
if you think about it, Miami is a program that
certainly eclipsed Florida State beat them. Uh, you know, a
beaten Florida already looks to be in great shape with
cam ord as its quarterback. And then you've got, uh,
Florida really struggling in the SEC. And yet there their
alumni based is so strong they can very easily, with
the leaders that they have within the political structure of
the state of Florida, keep Florida State from ever getting
in the SEC. So the be a lot of roadblocks
there for them. I mean, I think if you, if you,
if you added Florida State as a big twelve, that
would be a hell of a gain. And I think
the potential for that happening not necessarily right away, but
as soon as everything begins to shake out, I think
the possibilities are limitless. And your Mark knows that. That's
why he's continuing to look for additional revenue streams to
sweeten the pot, whether it's playing games you know, out
of the country, you know, game in Mexico, or game
wherever he can put it to create new revenue streams,
you know, the potential of branding and naming rights of
the conference. He's talked about that. He's talked about the
potential of of playing games, you know, all over the place,
and maybe structuring some invitational tournaments for both football and basketball.
I think he's the one conference commissioner that is like, hey,
I got ideas. Anybody listening, Let's talk turkey, Let's make
a deal. You know, he really, he really is a
mover and a shaker with some really progressive ideas, which
is really what the college game now is all about.
He's one of those guys that you know, you think about,
that you may meet across your life that says, hey,
what do you say we go on a You're saying
we take a boat ride all the way up to
Mississippi today, and and if you pause, he might be,
you know, already out of the docks. He may be
he's gone either telling you you're ready to go, or
he's gone, he's gone on to somebody else. He's pursuing
something else. He's a tremendous deal maker, and he's not
gonna get caught in the weeds very often. He's as
progressive a leader as we have in the game right now.
Speaker 1: Well, and I think too, one thing that's so important.
We've heard all these rumors about the SEC and Big
Ten potentially breaking off and doing their own thing and
all that, but with where basketball was at in this
league second to none, and I know you're excited to
call the Big twelve basketball games next season where basketball
was at and then if you potentially add a Florida
State or Clemson or Miami. I get this feeling, Timmy
b that Brett Yormark is not going to let the
Big twelve go down without a fight, that they are
going to stay in the fixture for the foreseeable future,
that they they You might have other conferences fade, but
the Big Twelve. I don't see any reason why they
won't be up there with the big dogs for the
long run.
Speaker 2: Here, well, he's already responsible for the end of what
used to be the Pac twelve, and the Pac twelve
is having to do what they're having to do now.
You know, I has announced overnight and end of this
morning because the Big twelve helped them drive their their
their collective cars into the ditch. You know, they just
didn't they just didn't understand the marketplace right, and your
Mark did you know he he went in there and
got some teams that you know, he needed to get
to supplement the schedule and to keep the current members
of the Big twelve happy when Oklahoma and Texas left,
and he did so, you know, in multiple ways. And
as I said, yeah, he lost two marquee teams with
brand names, but he certainly added some strengths and in
that in doing so, he got great balance and he
got great depths, which really helps when you've got competitive
games every week. You know, certain teams that you can
put on television. By example, what is our big gaw
game this week. That's a great match right, and that's
a hell of a match up. Yes, But the following week,
which it's in Ohio State against Marshall, Okay, well, people say,
why would you have a game with out state Marshall,
because the Ohio State is going to get you four
million viewers just to is their own Ohio State. UH
and Alabama are the two highest rated teams in the country.
I don't care who they're playing. They can win by
seventy and people are still gonna watch, right, you know,
But if you if you have certain teams with that
bigger brand, it makes a huge difference, Tyler. But if
you don't have that, what do you most want as
a commissioner in terms of the kind of product that
you're putting out there for consumption? You want competitive games.
You want a bunch of great games. And UH, this
week alone, we've got this game the Friday night debut
with with with Kansas State and UH in Arizona, and
then you've got Oklahoma State and Utah my god, and
and you know, Utah's the the projected favorite to win it.
Now Rising's hurt probably you know, he's a fifty fifth.
I don't think he's gonna play. Oklahoma State's got maybe
the best running back in the country, are very close
to it. Certainly he would be a potential running Back
Award winner in every category. The Dope Walker Award, you know,
recipient again could go to an Oklahoma State running back.
So you've got that on TV. And then as I said,
I think that Saturday night game with TCU and UCF
is going to be highly exposed in prime time. So
that's good TV. I mean, that's a lot of exposure
and that's really good TV. And I think that, yeah,
they're not making the same amount of money per game
as either the Big Ten or the SEC. And no,
they don't have that huge brand that's replaced either Oklahoma
or Texas. But cumulatively, you know a lot of people
are gonna watch great games with teams that are highly ranked.
And I would submit to you that as many as
seven teams at any point in time this year could
be in the top twenty five. Well that's saying something.
It really is.
Speaker 1: Final thing. We'll wind on this TV buh. You know,
I look at the college football landscape and you know,
the thinking like a TV executive, even though I'm not one,
I do think like one.
Speaker 3: And you.
Speaker 1: Yes, I see what the SEC is doing with ABC
and they're they're creating their own identity similar to what
they had with CBS. And you got Big Noon, which
has been a great product for the Big Ten. I'm
looking at the Big twelve and I'm wondering, you know,
as a Big twelve fan, what can be the Big
Twelve's thing? What can they do to stand out? I look,
you know, the basketball side, for example, Big twelve fans
have turned Big Monday into a huge deal. It doesn't
matter what teams are playing. Big twelve basketball fans are
tuning in Monday night eight o'clock, we're on ESPN. That
to me, that's why I look at it and trying
to find something for this this conference. I would love
to see, whether it's Fox or ESPN or something create
that next thing. I think personally, I think that's the
next step this conference is looking for potentially.
Speaker 2: Well, one of the main this you're going to go
going back to, and I hate to sound self serving,
but Tomorrow Night's game is important to Fox because with
all the Big Ten games now not being theirs, you
know they and the new deal they held on to
Big Noon and the biggest of the Big Ten games
will still be on Fox, but a lot of the
games that we have had in recent years, like for instance,
the Iowa Wisconsin game, which is a trophy game. There's
a gazillion trophy games of the Big Ten, so we
would have the top game, we would also maybe have
the second game or the third game. And now with
the new television constructs of that contract, the Big Ten
has major networks in every day part they come on
at noon with Fox. The three point thirty and seven
o'clock windows are shared between CBS and NBC, and they
share the number two and number three game every week.
So that means Fox is not going to get the
kind of depths of Big ten games and that they've
had in the past that we've enjoyed in the past
because of that new contract. So the Friday Night package
in many respects was put together and they decided when
they did not renew the WWE and they allowed it
to go to USA on Friday Night SmackDown, they decided
to supplement that time spot with college football. That's how
powerful college football has become. This was also a way
to guarantee Big ten teams that mattered to be on
Fox twice, not just big things, but on Friday. Now
we've got of the thirteen games, ten of them are
Big ten games, three of them are Big twelve games.
So the Big twelve got in on the act, and
that's that's great for them. I think the more games
that are exposed outside of Saturdays for the Big twelve,
the better off they're going to be. And I think
the advent of college football becoming what it's to come.
You know, they had Thursday Nights years ago and then
they really didn't they let it go by, they let
it leave. Yeah, the NFL picked that up and stole
it really and now I don't think anyone wants to
play on Thursdays because of the Amazon NFL games, which
is to some extent understandable. You don't want to fight,
you know, the the unbeatable and in this country, the
Shield and the NFL is unbeatable. But you want to
put games on when more people can see your product,
when there's less inventory. And that's why I think the
Friday night window is good. If I were the Big Twelve,
I'd want to play as many of my games on
Friday Night moving forward as possible. Not understanding the inner
workings of the contract, I do know that only Michigan
and Ohio State contractually are not obligated to take part
in the Friday night package. That is the one exception
in the Big Ten deal. The Big Twelve, I think,
will be, you know, in a position to supplement what
the Big Ten won't do for Fox on Friday nights.
The more of that they can do moving forward from
a television standpoint and a new contract, the better. And
I think that you know, Fox is going to continue
with its Friday night series after football is over with
a Friday night basketball package. A national basketball package on
commercial television. And when I say Friday Night and we're
not talking about as one, but we're talking Big Fox.
It's a huge difference in exposure, a huge difference in
exposure between between cable even today. People don't understand that,
but you know, being on ABC versus being on even
ESPN is a big deal. That's one of the reasons
why they decided to put Monday Night Football back on
ABC a couple of years ago, and it's paid huge
dividends in the rebirth of Monday Night Football after they
had seen the rating sag and and they went through
all the transformation before they lured Troy Aikman away and
he and Joe Buck left Fox and went to ESPN.
So that's what I think the Big Twelve has to
be thinking. And I know they are because, as I said,
your Mark is so innovative and creative, and uh, he
has a great relationship with Eric Shanks, our CEO. They
were with, you know, they work together on NASCAR when
your Mark was involved in that. So they've got a
great relationship. So who knows what they may be cooking up,
but I guarantee you if Fox and the Big Twelve
have a wonderful relationship that I think will continue to
flourish and move forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, Timmy B. Before we go plug away,
you got this game coming up Friday, and you got
some other shiding games coming up. Give us the rundown
here well.
Speaker 2: As I mentioned earlier, the game next week is just dandy.
I mean, Illinois coming off you know what they did
a week ago, to see how they handled this week,
and of course they move on to play in Lincoln,
and Nebraska is cracking the top twenty five for the
first time since twenty nineteen this week, and with Dylan
Driela at quarterback, a little bit like Avery Johnson tomorrow night,
here's a star quarterback deemed a savior in Lincoln, just
as Avery is deemed a BMOC and savior here in Manhattan, Kansas.
That's a whale of a game for us to have
in the wake of their demolition of Colorado last week.
And they play Illinois before passed out on Friday night.
And that's that's Zresca as another one of those teams
I mentioned Ohio State and Alabama and some schools that
automatically bring you three or four million homes, you know,
as bad as Nebraska has been for the last gosh
what fifteen or so years. Even Scott Frost couldn't get
it turned around. The Prodigal Sun. You know, they still
get at least a million and a half to two
million homes no matter who they play, if you put
them on TV. It's amazing, absolutely amazing. Nebraska is still
such a big name, such a brand we sort of
grew up on, you know, generation after generation grew up
on Nebraska football. So that's a great game for us
to have. And then I just got a call yesterday
from our suits that handle the NFL, and we've got
apparently a few more games or at least one extra
game on our NFL roster to come up with next Sunday,
a week from Sunday, and you know, a couple of
old veterans are going to get together. Matt Millon, who's
doing Big ten football on SAT on a regular basis.
He does some regional games still for Fox. At one
point you might recall when Madden was working with Pat
Summer All Millan worked for years with Dick Stockton on
their number two team. The moment they got the NFL
on Todd, I love Matt and have moaning since he
played even at Penn State and before he got to
all those Super Bowls with a Raiders, the Redskins, and
the forty nine ers. So we're going to be together
in Raymond James Stadium for the Buccaneers and the Blocos
a week from Sunday. So get to see bow Nicks
and Baker Mayfield go at it and catch up with
my old friend Sean Payton, whom I've covered on States
preseason games going back his first seven years there from
two thousand and six to thirteen. I did the Saints
preseason games for him, and I'm really looking forward to it.
Ought to be a blast. So they're calling the old
left hander out of the NFL bullpen to go back
to work with the Shields week from Sunday.
Speaker 1: Yeat wait, Timmy Bae. Appreciate the time as always and
appreciate thank you for joining us. Have fun calling this
game Friday night and the rest of the games this season.
We talk in down the line.
Speaker 2: You gott