Speaker 1: Greg Glassman is the founder and former CEO of CrossFit.
This is the second part of an interview we did
with him, first one really focusing on CrossFit. The death
of one of the athletes in a drowning event very tragic,
as if you saw the first interview, really hit Greg
hard that that happened. We also sat down, though, with
a purpose, and that was to discuss the broken nature
of science in America. The scientific process has been perverted
and destroyed by people who seek to use it for profit.
Greg of course made a huge profit with the scientific
mind in CrossFit by defining fitness and then going about
achieving fitness. But he made some predictions. Greg predicted that
his process constantly varied functional movements performed at high intensity,
which will increase your work capacity across broad time and
modal spectrums, would result in creating athletes who could go
squat five hundred pounds and then turn around and run
a sub five minute mile That was unheard of and
people said, you're insane, you can't do it. He predicted
that this form of exercise would reverse type two diabetes,
and it did. He has the mind of a scientist,
and you know what he says doesn't work in science
anymore peer reviewed papers. He has one thing in mind
in terms of fixing science, which is to show people
something called a pee value, to teach it, to feature it,
and to honor it. This is the second half of
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Speaker 1: This is so vital for people to understand. So let's
go back to this is why I started with your
predictions about what you were going to do with athletes. Okay,
you made predictions. Those predictions have come true. You have
a personally high p value, and your coaches and your affiliates. Okay,
you made predictions, they came true. Your thesis has proven right.
I want to just simplify this for people like me,
just simpletons. I've lived in Idaho for four years. I
know when I'm driving to the studio, I have learned
that the trains cross between ten minutes before and ten
minutes after the hour. I therefore know I'm going to
avoid train crossings at that point. If I'm on AID
and I'm headed east and I to a given exit
prairie and I go, this is slow, I'm gonna jettison.
These are me making predictive models over time. So you
go back to the IHM E. They made some predictive models.
None of them were right, all of them catastrophized. I
believe on purpose, and we were told one hundred percent
safe and effective, et cetera. Back to the band topic.
That to me is not just junk science, it's purposely bad.
But you're saying science can be measured by if you
are going to discover some patterns and some truths, and
you're going to come to us with solutions and ideas
and theses. Here's the simple way to figure out if
your science is solid. Make a prediction and have it
come true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absent to predictive record, we got nothing and a
model that, in fact, I would obligate a model to
some if possible, some retrodiction. If you've got a climate model,
it would be nice if it could show the past
ice ages, even any ones, you know, right, But a
forward looking model with no track record is not yet science.
And I don't care how many bow ties and white
lab coats that computers you involve until it's until it's
predicted something.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I need a forecast of a measurement that comes true,
and we're going to attach a number to that and
give it some predictive value. And that's that's the validation.
But we've skirted over something else that I think is critical,
and that is it. There's there's two types of corruption,
two common definitions. And the one we all know of
the the bad behavior, you know, the ill gotten game
kind of right, the ten thousand dollars wrapped in aluminum
foil and the senator's freezer, which is hilarious. You can
buy a senator, it's amazing, Right, They're cheap, they're really cheap.
They're horrors and cheap horse. But that corruption we all
know of. But there's another sense of corruption, and it's
like the corruption of a computer file where a one
or a zero falls off the page and now the
thing doesn't work as intended. So we have an impairment
of function by a design shift or change. Right in science.
We had an epistemic corruption that gave fertile grounds refuge
and hid that the evil corruption. And that's it's an
epistemic failing. It's a failing of process and what we've done.
In fact, my broken Science initiative gathered the friends we have,
and I couldn't I have a dream list of people
from around the world that know the things that we know.
I just I made friends of my mentors, of my
ideological intellectual mentors, but we sent word out. I had
Emily drop them aligne and said, when science replaces a
predictive strength with science is the determinant of a model's validity,
science becomes nonsense. And Buddy, that was like the perfect
bass lure. I didn't have a single one of those
people that I admired do anything other than we respond
instantly to that. Matt Briggs response was you think I
got a phone number right, And so it was an
easy thing to put out to But that is indeed,
what's happened is that the predictive strength of models as
the determinant of validity. And again I said that it
not only is the determinant single space sole determinant of validity.
There's nothing else. There's nothing else that matters. My father's
line was whether it comes to you from inspiration or
perspiration does not matter. It's the predictive strength. So if
you have a bad dream of equal mc square, its
value lies in its predictive strength, not in the source.
And that corruption has given refuge to this second level
of corruption, And that basically is it. With enough industrial money,
I can create any science I want, given this current
method where consensus is what's required rather than predictive strength.
Speaker 1: Exactly. And now, okay, so you've now hung out there
this hanging participle of peer reviewed papers. I want to
talk about that because that's been the gold standard. Greg
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have a theory politically greg that there are smart, evil,
scheming people on top. In the middle, there's folks like
me that we do our thing, We raise our families,
we make a little money, we retire, we do things,
we go to church, we do that. On the bottom
there's stupid supplicants who will do whatever they're told because
they know they can't cut it in the commercial world.
So on the top you have someone who might.
Speaker 4: Say, well, I have no problem look when they attack me,
but I represent science itself, right, So you know, scheming
people who have a lot of money, and they're getting
a lot of nefarious money, and even publicly they're making
way too much money.
Speaker 1: Then on the bottom of that, you've got people who wear,
you know, really bright scarves and say things like, well,
but it was Thanksgiving and it was my family, so
I mean, we took that risk, right, you know people
like that in the middle. There's you and I. Well,
not you, because you're on the you happen to be
a good man on top of the intellectual heat. But
I'm in this middle area. Then this other aspect to this,
that consensus thing. We have turned science into a popular
girl thing. Right, Why do people want to this particular
dress because all the girls are wearing it? Why are
the girls wearing it because all the girls are wearing it.
That's been applied then to peer review. This has been
the global standard. And when I started to see this trend, greg,
it was in transing kids and I had a discussion
with people from a hospital, a very very powerful hospital
that was one of the first to trans kids. They
got very upset with me for what I said in
the radio. They demanded a meeting. I'll take the meeting.
Let's have the meeting. And management was there, and in
this discussion, I just said, look, maybe I'm wrong. If
I'm wrong, this is a bad thing to chemically and
surgically alter these kids at the age of eleven and
twelve against parental wishes. Maybe I'm wrong. Here's how you
can prove it. What's the organic marker. Show me the
organic marker the so called transgender cell, and then answer
this question for me. Why do I have instance after
instance after instance where suicidal intent was it modeled to
increase it?
Speaker 2: Did?
Speaker 1: Why is that? And their response was this discussion is over,
You're a bigot. And that was their predictive model was utopia.
They were doing popular girl stuff. They axcept saying peer review.
So you're here to tell me that peer review is
not the gold standard.
Speaker 3: No, in fact, it's it's not. It's not a part
of science. It's not part of the scientific method. I mean,
look at look. Science is really easy. Dave Still said
it could be. It could be a there's an Australian
word with drogo drongo I think is a it's a
type of bird, but it's a it's an Australian pejorative
for idiot. But he said, any drongo could understand basic science.
And it looks like this. We take observations, which are
registrations of the real world, and our senses are sensing equipment.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: We work to tie that to a standard scale with
a well characterized air. We call that a measurement, and
then we can take any measurement and and and project
that onto a future unrealized measurement as a forecaster for
measurement or an event. And and that's a model. And
it's predictive strength determines whether it's a conjecture, hypothesis, a theory,
or a law. And you test it. And it's something
that Benedictine Monk could do and change genetics forever without
permission from anyone with beans yes, right, right right. And
it's someone that can turn their their their glass to
the heavens and makes careful recordings and play with them,
can also make immense discoveries. But think on the predictive strength.
Think of the power of the individual that told the
Emperor King or whomever person you know, Caesar, that there
was going to be a any clips of the sun
in two hundred fifteen days, seven hours and twelve minutes.
And you do nothing with that. You don't believe it,
you don't accept it. The guy doesn't get awards for
the prediction. We don't, you know, it becomes science at
the moment that it happens. And of course then you're
interested in another one. Can you do it again?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Right right? And I'm also interested in what the methodology
was that it enabled you to do that, But the
validation came through the predictive strength.
Speaker 2: And the.
Speaker 3: Reason that astronomy is a science in astrology is not
is that you're going to have trouble showing me that
aris make better lovers, and I'm going to easily tell
you when the next solo eclipse is going to be
here in Idaho. And that distinction is one that Carl
Popper missed. And it was funny because Thomas Coon pointed out,
almost in real time, this doesn't even sir, of your
original purpose, which was the demarcation of astrology from astronomy.
As an example. Yeah, and that is his famed falsification,
which got baked into a Supreme Court decision, sadly enough,
which gets us in another kind of area. But what
I'm also playing with and looking at, funding and talking,
and that is a Supreme Court's Dialbert decision that fundamentally
enshrine peer review and consensus and falsification and all of
that nonsense to give standing legal standing in courts.
Speaker 1: Consensus is easy to come by when there's a punishment
for coming outside of it. And we go back to
the COVID era. So we had all these scientists who
came along and said, hey, you know what this wuhan,
this virus looks like it came out of a lab.
It looks human human modified. And they said this, and
then there was this phone call and this guy gets on,
well really we need to and all of a sudden,
the next day the predictions change or their analysis changed,
and then they got a bunch of money, right, and
now the peer review came along. Well no, I mean
this has been debunked because there's a cost for going
outside the peer group. And this is why I'm referring
to it as like teen or adolescent stuff. You know,
when I was a kid, I couldn't admit that I
like Hank Williams Junior. Sure, I liked the ac DC
and Aerosmith a lot. But someone when they found out
out a Hank Williams Junior album, man I was at risk.
Or I listened to Paul Harvey in my current high
school like what you're not out there ahead banging and
you at the broken science initiative, Then you're arming people
like me, people who are teachers, academics and others to
actually be scientific, to actually act with rigor and that's
what I wanted to get into and talk a little
bit about Emily. You should give your partner a little
light to it, and.
Speaker 3: Let me come back to Emily, and by way of
this we'll get right to it. I want to thank
Roger Kimball for recently turning me onto this little blip
that came from a John Alexander Smith at Oxford, a
dean there and professor of moral philosophy, lecturing a junior
class coming back in nineteen fourteen, and he tells them, gentlemen,
you are now about to embark on a course of
studies that will occupy you for two years. Together they
form a noble endeavor adventure. But I would like to
remind you of an important point. Some of you, when
you go down from the university, will go into the church,
or to the bar, or to the House of Commons,
or to the Home Civil Service, or the Indian or
Colonial service, or into various professions. Some may go into
the army, some in the industry and commerce. Some may
become country gentlemen. A few, I hope a very few
will become teachers or dons. Let me make this clear
to you, except for those in the last category. Nothing
that you will learn in the course of your studies
will be of the slightest possible used to you in afterlife,
save only this that if you work hard and intelligently,
you should be able to detect when a man is
talking rot. And that is, in my view, is the main,
if not the sole, purpose of an education. And what
I'm to do is we're building material. I want to
give people protection from the rot, and I think that
you can do that, and the COVID thing gives us
a lot of a lot of fertile ground here. Somebody
asked me what's the market for a seminar on epistemology?
And I said, well, were you vaccinated? I said yeah,
and I go. Be fun to talk about why. If
you said no, I go, it'd be fun to talk
about why these are discussions that need to need to
be had. And if it was the science that compelled
you to it. I'd like to know what you mean
by science and what you think it is that science
does that earns your trust. I want to give you
this in Emily. Emily was Emily Kaplan was employed by
CrossFit Inc. In public relations and worked miraculously and effectively
with our friends at the Podesta organization. Between between David
Marine at Podesta and Emily Kaplan, we just we just
got fantastic results. But she was a very capable and
able defender of of my efforts and work and stopped
big media from publishing some some blatant lies about me
and uh after the sale of the company, Uh, the
interest we had in broken science and insistent on this
subject of broken science. I see myself as one of
the few professionals in the field and that I have
spent millions of dollars pursuing bullshit science and it's and
its purveyors and and and found victory in federal and
state court.
Speaker 1: So broken science came at you. This is what's so
glorious about this. It came at you. But then it
came at society. And I think it's come at society
multiple times. I think the as I mentioned, the tranding
of kids is predicated upon truly nefarious broken science created
from the human rights campaign out of San Francisco run
by two known pedophiles, billions of dollars behind the scenes,
to non governmental organizations, to bureaucrats, never in front of parents.
That was an attack on this And then Harvard's. I
don't remember how much money they took, but I think
it was like forty five million bucks, which is nothing
to them to do a psychographic announcements in psychological analysis
on how to pressure PIP. You were talking about the injections,
So they had the fear of loss, opportunity of gain.
You know what was one of the big ones was
being ostracized, being removed from your friendship group, your family group.
That was one of the pressures they wanted to use.
They did it with minorities, and at that point it
was it was Golong get along. They had all these
psychographic analyzes. One of my proudest moments in media was
when I was on Russia's program and I started to
mock their outreach to rednecks like me living in Idaho,
and they did this, this is this guy, you know,
I gotten mowed the back forty on my tractor. I
would make sure I'm doing the right thing for my neighborhood.
That's why I got vaccinated. And I did this thing
about knowing I'm on my f one twenty five and
just mimicking this. That ad Greg was gone the next day,
and I so want to foil that and find that out.
So broken science came for you. You defeated it. It
has come also though to our kids. It is broken
science to say a girl as a boy because the
girl says so, or a boy says so. I mean,
it can't get more broken. That's it's come about in
so many regards. When I first met Greg, it was
at in person. I've been talking with him on the
phone many many times, hours at a time. In fact,
Greg was kind enough to invite me down to heat
and his wife's home in near Pataluma, California, and that
was pretty Again this is a word I have used
maybe three times in my life. It was a little
surreal to be driving up to Greg's home and hear
are all these legends of the sports sport that I love.
And I had said, hey, what can I bring? Like
Mama raised me that you bring stuff to someone's house.
And Greg was so kind. You laughed to Todd, We've
got so much steak and lobster, And I mean, if
you want to bring something, that's great, but you please
don't feel like you have to. But I know Greg,
and I know his love, I know his love for
the military. I mean crossfits has been not really joined
at the hip, but has been working with the Navy
Seals and training first responders for years. So I brought
a bag of bone Frog coffee. If you were willing
to bring a bag of coffee as a gift to
a guy with as much financial success as Greg has
and as much philanthropus E. Gauge as in as how
kind he is with his friend, you must really love
the coffee. I do. Bone Frog coffee is made by
my friend Tim Krookshank, a retired Navy Seal who did
three tours of duty on our behalf, and he was
coached in that by a guy named Dave Stewart who's
a coffee legend. He created Seattle's Best coffee. And I
don't remember the blend I brought. I think it was
probably the Bone Fog Classic. If I were to do
it again, I'd probably used the goat Locker blend. I
gave that to someone the other day. Funny story about this.
I later wore a bone Frog hat around One of
the guys who helps run Crossfits was Greg's partner. This
is Dave Castro, who runs the games. I was wearing
a bone Frog hat. I was at Dave Castro's place
at an event for the Broken SIDS Initiative, and Greg
and Dave, who was a Navy seal, saw my hat
and he kept side eye in my hat. He finally said, hey,
hey about your hat. I go, yeah, owner that company
a seal. Absolutely, he goes, Pete better be, I said, Dave,
I promise Tim his name is? He said, what's his name?
What's his name? What's his name? I said, Tim? Crookshank?
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 1: He was a seal in a buds and search. He was,
okay crook Shank, Okay, okay, don't he checked me. I
loved it so much, protecting protecting his brother's reputation of
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talk about how the Broken Signs Initiative arms people, Well.
Speaker 3: I think we're I think we've been right there. I
think that we need to know what science is and
what it isn't, and there's things that it'sn't and couldn't
and shouldn't weigh in on. But there's also you know,
we were when we were working with the Infant Swim Resource,
we'd ask my father to provide the mathematics to show
that that isr worked. And what we're doing is teaching
infants to float. And the problem is is that in
any kind of comparison, you have to find people that
care but didn't take action about their children drowning as
those that are willing to take ten minutes a day,
six days a week for six weeks. The discomfort of
that is beyond description. The fact that most people won't
stay through the program. I understand the why of it.
It's like watching your kid getting water boarded. Right. And
at the end, my dad says, you want me to
teach that floating to show you mathematical evidence for floating
kids being better than sinking kids. And I said, fundamentally, yes,
that's right. I think if you need that, show them
to you share your kids taken away. Like I don't.
He says, I think you're asking science to do something
that it doesn't do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you it's like.
Speaker 3: It's like this. It's like, you know, I'll go to
your I'll go to the town hall meeting on free speech,
but I'm bringing a gun in case they lose the debate. Right,
there are things, there are things that are outside of
the space of logic and or discourse maybe, and I'll
take one of them is men and women's sports. The
problem with with someone knocking my little girl out of
her socks, he's got a penis hiding amongst a bunch
of girls playing lacrosse. I'm not I'm just I don't.
I don't have any interest in the discussion of.
Speaker 1: That, because.
Speaker 3: Why it shouldn't you want me to talk about it
so you can do something horrible to me. That's not
the Those aren't the kind of things. I'm not going
to have a discussion with home invasion robbers either. It's
not a difference of understanding. It's not going to resolve
itself in a talk.
Speaker 1: So you have built this, You've made friends of your mentors,
you put together an organization people who've helped you define science.
You've also talked with me about the creation of materials
for schools, for video repositories, so that actually teachers can
get back to teaching based upon what a scientific model
would look like in a healthy way. I could see
that just delivering change beyond greg not just science, not
just people avoiding junk science, not just people like getting
victimized by a bad meeting doctor, Hey, you should take
a stat and why will everyone else has taken the
stat and status are tasty, but also reintroducing skeptical thinking.
Speaker 3: Yes, at the most fundamental level, the trivium and quadrivium
need a bit of a mending to some modern understanding
and simple things like like you know, at the point
that a kid can do long division and understands fractions,
ten eleven, twelve years old at the latest, I would hope, Yeah,
at that point it's time to start talking about things
like conditional probabilities and show give like a Carmagora drawing
a geometric interpretation of a given B and show what
be given A would look like. And even little kids,
ten year olds, my kids can see that they're not
the same, and we're starting there. We have a useful
bit of something in your education that I can turn
into a roadblock to some of the over the cliff
mistakes that are made routinely in medicine, especially in the
field of diagnostics. Just talking about the prosecutor's fallacy. It's
a problem in legal circles, but you can see the
deficiency in our scientific literacy. And I think what's wonderful
is that the opportunity for correction begins at eight, nine,
ten years old. I think that kids need to be
taught what science is ahead of any particulars of science. Yes,
it is sourcing, repository of man's objective knowledge of validation
comes from predictive strength. That is the source of the objectivity,
the sole rational basis for trust. You know what, on
a replication crisis with something we.
Speaker 1: Directly we can talk about this replication. So explain that
for everybody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, John I and OT. He's published a seminal piece
that started a wave of wonderful discussion. But what he
said is most research findings are false. And he's saying
is in the space of biomedical research that over half
of the research findings won't wouldn't pan out, won't replicate.
We know by direct clinical evidence, by attempting to replicate
what is it fifty three preclinical studies in on collagen
hematology that what was it? Eleven percent of them would replicate.
And these are foundational works on which the whole of
cancer research, chemopharmacy, pharmaceutical intervention is based on this work,
and none of these studies have been retracted. We found
out that that paltry eleven percent. I think six to
fifty three that might be the number. But the replication
what's fascinating, I think, and the replication crisis. There's a
lot of people talking about it. There's I didn't pick
the name broken science when I throw it into Google.
There's a lot of people that have used that terminology
in reference to science that won't replicate and the failures
of entire fields like Alzheimer's research and that kind of stuff.
But I don't think answer. I don't think we're in
a fruitful line of discussion until we have the discussion
is what was the rational expectation of replication? Because there
is none. When I look at the science that will replicate,
it's like, of course it didn't.
Speaker 1: So this is me going bowling. I very rarely have
ever bowled. I bowled two hundred ones once. Yeah, and
you know what, Greg, in the next round of bowling,
I got a bald. Almost everything right, and that obviously luck.
Now we're not talking about luck here. I don't think.
I mean, it could be bad, it could be the nefarious,
you know, evil sandwich thing. We've talked about the evil people,
the dumb people, but that replication crisis goes back to
then to me, this definitional crisis, And this is where
I think it's really important to go from the kids,
arming them critical thinking, teachers, critical thinking. What about people
who work in the field greg and they know they're
working in corrupt fields, they know the sciences around them
as corrupt. What can we do to help scientists like
that who actually want to deliver quality work and actually
don't want to be trapped at I'm thinking about a
family member who her company got bought by Pfizer, and
she's very concerned. She doesn't want anything like I just
gonna be careful. She's a family member, but she's concerned,
and I would be too, because Pfizer, in my judgment,
is a criminal cartel. But she's a great scientist. So
if you've given any thought to how we can help
scientists like that have a home where they can actually
practice real scientific rigor with good p values replicable results.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. My solution to anything like this is
networking hub form a network of people. It's interesting on
a topic, how many individuals you could you know, pick
your topic and find the people that are weighing in
and then get to them and ask if they know
of each other, and they will by work only. And
so if you can get them together, and you're the
one that does that, now you're part of the conversation.
That's kind of been my dirty little trick is networking, hub,
network and hub, and crazy things happen when you get
these people together like that. When we got the crossfitting
physicians together, I said, the interesting thing about this assembly
of physicians is they all know something firsthand clinically in
the gym that is orthogonal, if not antithetical to the
party line. In medicine. They know truths about exercise, about squatting,
about carbohydrate that other doctors don't know. Well, one of
the doctors had said, we need to have pins for
the doctors, and I said, what do you mean pins.
She goes, little enamel pins. It'd be so cute and
it'd see CrossFit health and I'm not now, we don't
do this. So she had the pins made anyways and
didn't tell me, and they had them mount and I
was furious. But then on social media there'd be you know,
the middle of a heart transplant, there's a picture of
a guy that's got the CrossFit health thing, and all
these people in a cute scenarios wanted a picture taken
with their Crossit health. They were sending a message through
their own community that they knew something that was important,
vital in the essential in the sense of an essential
amino acid optimal to the organisms functioning, that was counter
to the party line. And so I think that lies
the answer, because I tell you, the people have come
forward for me. I'm on a soda tour and I
got two guys in the back of the room. It
look like they could be a security concern. Two big,
thick guys, and it's kind of an egg ahead crowd.
This is in DC. And they come forward and introduce
themselves as being from CrossFit NIH, and I go, where's that.
They go in the NIH wow and I didn't even
know there was one. Yeah, there is one, and they go,
you need to keep doing what you're doing. That there's
a lot that know. When I'm while I'm suing the NSCA,
I find out that they're having open workout competitions in
their gym in Colorado Springs, and I'm introduce people that
work there that are good people. I show up at
the ACSM event. Guy comes up to me looking at
the same thing I'm looking with. So I know who
you are. I just want to say hi, and I'm
a real fan of what you do. And for obvious reasons,
I'm not going to take a picture with you, but
keep it up. And so you get to live in
that world. And that's that's a that's a neat space.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was, you know, was at Microsoft for a few years,
quite a lot of years, and this is a socidal point,
and I know you've been kind with your time, so
we can wrap it up. But I was in a
meeting and a SVP was here presenting a plan and
it was to acquire this company they thought was going
to beat YouTube. This was back in the day, and
I'm listening to this and everyone around the table is going,
this is great, rock them on, perfect SVP. And it
comes around to me and I'm one of like eight
people in the room, and I said to the VP,
have you made your decision? Well, no, that's why i'm here.
Are you genuinely open to feedback? Yes, that's why I'm here.
It's a stupid idea. This can't possibly catch YouTube. YouTube
has a snowball algorithm. We don't yet even understand. It's
got a massive repository of videos. Do you understand that
they have more video than all TV networks combined? And
it's also all meta analyzed with keywords? Do you understand it?
It's not ad you service, it's a search engine. It's
going to be the world's larger search engine, but with
more valuable content. Because it's audio video. I mean to
understand that they're going to be doing live video, et cetera.
This thing isn't five years behind, it's five hundred years behind.
This is a stupid purchase. You'd be wasting money, You'd
embarrass yourself. And he looked at me and he goes,
that's why you're here. And then he looked around the
rem and he goes, why was he the only one?
And later a guy came up to me and he
was a GM two and he came up and said
thank you. And I don't I generinely don't curse that much,
but I actually said, f off, you left it to me.
I'm the junior guy in that room. You've been here
fifteen years. I'm the guy who has to say that right,
No speak up. So my point, Greg is you have
earned and earned it well, earn grown wealth enough that
they can't do much to you. They could assassinate you,
God willing, they won't. They can threaten you. They've tried that,
they tried to ruin you in court. And what do
you say to people who don't have your wealth but
need to speak up? Because, Greg, I think the time
is short to tell truth. I mean, I think God's
showing us we're personally. You and I have never really
talked about faith, but person I think we're in an
end Times center. Everybody thinks that everybody thinks that we
should talk one day about the p value of Isaiah
and Daniel. But what do you say to people who
know they should speak up but they're afraid.
Speaker 3: I fully understand that, you know, I'm I can't tell
a football player guy in the NFL I had. I
couldn't look him in the eyes and tell him you
got to quit taking steroids. I wasn't gonna play football.
He knew that it was he was in the NFL
because that's what got him from Sunday to Sunday. Yeah,
that's what made it possible. Yeah, And so I like,
do I think they're healthy for you to know shorten
your life likely is it my decision to make to
to I mean, this is the public health question. No,
at one point, do you not send your kids to school?
You know, And that's a very personal decision. And for
families where an education didn't matter, what's it matter? If
you kids weren't going to school anyways, maybe it didn't matter.
But if school was the way for your kids to
get out of their situation, then of course it mattered. No,
I'm not I don't have that fatal conceit to be
able to tell everyone what to do, but I certainly
know what to take my hat off and drop to
a knee when someone makes it sacrifice like that, like
that Gal from Levi Strauss. You know, God bless her.
Look what she did. Isn't it extraordinary? If I have
that expectation of everyone, right, you know, there's got to
be the one guy that will run into the building room,
the building house to be the hero. It only have
if they're not everyone and will right, And I don't
fault those people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And what I've discovered for myself, and this
is a faith thing as well, is you know I
was told I've never work in radio. Game right, when
I quit local radio said no to a five year contract.
That's a setup over there for one hundred and eighty
radio stations. Yeah, the weekend stuff is sixty radio stations.
The audio version of our podcast is in the top
one half of one percent globally. We're starting to make
things happen on YouTube and video. People faith. The Christian
scenario is, hey, what you give up for God, you'll
get back seven times. And what I would say to
people is, if you can't speak out at work, speak
out to your kids. Let them know what you're seeing,
show them how to validate, how to predict. We did
this with our daughter growing up. What will happen if
I take a boiled egg and spin it versus a
non boiled egg, And we did a lot of that.
Teach your kids so that they don't have to be
in the same circumstance. They don't have to live under
the fear of I said, the unpopular thing that makes sense. Right,
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Speaker 3: I've got a just last week eleven year old and
her nine and a half year old brother. But we
can be listening to some kind of news story. A
turn it on. What's going on here? No such thing
as free? Thank you? Turn it back up. I We'll
just start with some basics. Right, somebody paid for it, right? Right?
Somebody right?
Speaker 1: It's not free health care.
Speaker 3: That's the thing to ask. He's paying for it? Right?
Speaker 1: That is a perfect, perfect question, and it brings us
back to broken Science, Broken Science Institute, who's paying for it?
I think we have a decent idea.
Speaker 3: My dad would turn down the TV anytime. Nine out
of ten Dennis, and I'm telling you this one on
for fifteen years, and he'd turned down the TV and
explained whoever was sitting there that there's no voting in
science and that innovation is going to come from the
one scientist and the one dentist. In ten you want
to know what's he using to brush his teeth? Right,
Not that he won't use pepsident or whatever the hell
it was.
Speaker 1: But I had my company, spin Spot. I was at
We Want a Demo God Award. We were great idea,
just really too early. Social media wasn't there yet. And
I was talking to Walt mall's Burg. You know what
I know? Okay, so he's a tech writer. Ye, yeah,
I do know who that is, big, big wigger. He
came up to me and my column yeah forever. Yeah,
my and my PR agent who hates me now because
she's gone off the off the cliff, leftist, and the
guy I hired to run the company's going to Walt. Okay,
Waltz coming. I've met him at Microsoft he's a decent guy.
What walks up and he says, spin spotter, show me
one instance of spin in the Wall Street Journal. Go so,
go to Wall Street Journal, pull up an article and
turn on our device was a toolbar back in the
day when those are their thing. It keys in this
article and it hid hits the phrase experts say, and
Walt says, what's wrong with that? I go, well, let's
hit click. It said which experts? The article quotes one
person and and you're saying experts plural. And he sat
there and it's like this uncomfortable silence and my pr
agent is shaky, and what goes, Yeah, you're right, it shouldn't.
Speaker 3: We had someone needs to set up a reddit or
a page, and it's would be I stop reading when
and yes, And for me it's experts say yep. But
my favorite all time was parenting experts at Harvard, and
I'm like done, I'm done. There are no parenting experts
and if they were, they're not at Horror that we
know for a frat. Yeah, isn't that great parenting experts
at Harvard?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1: The simplest questions can befuddle the most nefarious schemers. You
know I've told you before with the injection that doctor.
I said, how's it work?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: No, how does it work? And then he goes, well,
it's in a nerd. By that, I mean an Activisty.
I got that when you said a nerd you know,
portion of the virus that builds anybody to your body.
And I go, oh, so it's not a gene sequencing
device that produces a fact simile of the spike protein
forty six million at a time in my body. And
he says this to mcgregus, if you knew that, why'd
you ask? I go, well, better question, Since you knew it,
why did you lie?
Speaker 3: You know the the uh Emperor's Naked story? Oh yeah,
there needs to be a redo on that where the
kid's parents get audited and the mom loses your job
and he gets thrown out of the private school, and yeah,
you know what the costs were the security that rubs
them up on their way to the card right right?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: I mean that was just just the start of it.
But it was as simple as that is. The Emperor's Naked.
I have a quick Microsoft story for you. There was
a Xbox Device's division of longtime early employees filthy, rich,
wonderful men. They were all friends each and all crossfitting together.
Led by a fifty five year old gentleman. They could
probably do seventy five pull ups neat neat crew, but
they had a wearable that crazy enough knew the difference
between lat pulled down and pull ups riding a stationary
bike and a real bike could tell you you're doing Fran,
Diane or Helen. You put in simple inputs and that
was me, Wow, wow, So we're doing all this stuff.
And the first thing it was funny to me was
it I said, it's really good because I did Fran
and I timed it and I counted the reps and
it agreed with me. So that's really cool. The technology
is amazing. And then over time it's like, but I
think I also know the difference between real pull ups
and that pulldown, and I also pretty much aware of
when I'm riding the stationary bike versus around Yeah, and
I and it's like, it's it's amazing and it's wow,
but it's gonna end up in the drunk drawer. And
I had to walk away from the project and they
were heartbroken.
Speaker 1: I conceived of a device like that when I was
leaving Washington, d C. Trying to figure out what to
do next, and we started to look at that. We
just came up that we could probably figure out bench press.
But then wait, push ups right, and I see you're
not making fun of my garment Phoenix seven.
Speaker 3: No, but their thing worked. It was ingenious. Collected signatures
from all these activities for like they were just doing
their own workouts. Yeah, collecting the signatures, docking, loading up
to the cloud, and doing crazy computing all those signatures
and actually found the distinctive feature that made that a
real pull up.
Speaker 1: That's that's the thing that we're trying to get to
to crowdsource that we can't have the money to do that.
My friend the Broken Science Institute linked in the show notes,
it's been so kind with your time, and I don't
mean to embarrass you. I really that's not my intent.
I just wanted to thank you for welcoming into.
Speaker 3: Your life and you like family.
Speaker 1: Thank you and for your kindness. And I'm I'm we're
gonna be blessed by what you do. I'mna shake your
hand again, have me back.
Speaker 3: I don't quit have any idea.
Speaker 1: You drive here, walk in and you've come on.
Speaker 3: My NAV got me here without the interstator or any highway.
Nice celtis and back rows the whole way security concern.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Greg Glassman, broken science institutes, and Lord,
thank you for wise counsel friends like this. One day
I'm going to get Greg to read a book I
gave them, and we're going to talk faith. One day
we're gonna come. This is a Tod Hermer show. Please go,
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