WEBVTT 1 00:00:15.960 --> 00:00:18.839 My name is Jose Flores. All the guys call me Holzer. 2 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:25.559 I'm here for on robbery and extortion with multiple enhancements, 3 00:00:25.559 --> 00:00:30.000 gun enhancements, gang enhancements, and I started with eighty six 4 00:00:30.079 --> 00:00:32.280 years to life. Basically, if you've got a case that 5 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:34.880 carries ten years, they can add another ten for a 6 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:38.200 gun enhancement, life for a gang enhancement, and then they 7 00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:40.920 double you up because of a strike. You're looking at 8 00:00:41.000 --> 00:00:44.520 sixty seventy years on a case that normally carries ten years. 9 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:53.479 Good morning. 10 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:58.240 Usually what I hope for when I come to breakfast 11 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:01.439 is that we have cinnamon rolls. That's what we have today, 12 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:03.240 cinnamon rolls. 13 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:16.400 Yes, hey, overall the food here is two out of 14 00:01:16.400 --> 00:01:17.079 seven is good. 15 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:33.359 So now the gate's opening. We're about to go into 16 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:43.280 education and go time Florida thirty seven. No monica, missus 17 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:48.560 O'Brien clerk. Oh yes, okay, well sorry, how good one 18 00:01:48.599 --> 00:01:53.159 you do? This is our classroom. If you're not making mistakes, 19 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:56.840 you're not learning right. And which is very encouraging because 20 00:01:56.840 --> 00:01:59.480 when I was in school, I wouldn't raise my hand 21 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:02.079 or I you know, hide and hope they wouldn't call 22 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:05.120 on me because I was scared to give the wrong 23 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:08.199 answer and be made fun of. You know guy's thing, 24 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:11.919 Oh he's stupid, you know. So I wish I would 25 00:02:11.919 --> 00:02:14.680 have had an environment like this when I was going 26 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:15.159 to school. 27 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:20.000 Education is the best way for them to transform their lives. 28 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:23.360 They need to have something to focus on to reshape 29 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:25.400 and rebuild their lives. And that is why I chose 30 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:30.800 mister Flores. He has been a very positive inclusion in 31 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:34.319 my class, and my students are truly inspired by mister Flores. 32 00:02:34.680 --> 00:02:38.919 She gave me that second chance and her first chance actually, 33 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:44.120 and so I'm very thankful for that. 34 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:47.840 Yeah, so I want you to go to Building one 35 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:51.960 to client fork and then distribute the package. 36 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:55.680 I'm the teacher, assistant, tutor mentor. For me, it's my 37 00:02:55.800 --> 00:03:00.400 way of paying back what I've done wrong. You know, 38 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:03.240 our victims is not just the people we harm directly 39 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:07.039 and their families. It's the communities. It's even the taxpayers 40 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:09.439 who have to pay for us to be here. So 41 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:12.439 for me to ask to be paid, I feel like, 42 00:03:12.680 --> 00:03:17.879 you know, I'm just I can't do it. This is 43 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:20.439 every day, you know. For me, it feels like it 44 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:24.240 just feels positive, it feels productive, like everybody out here 45 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:26.520 is on their way to do some kind of a 46 00:03:26.599 --> 00:03:31.680 job or assignment. You know, you know, I never had 47 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:34.759 a job when I was out there. I never had responsibilities. 48 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:38.120 I never paid bills. I never did nothing that gave 49 00:03:38.120 --> 00:03:42.960 me structure. I have to wake up in the mornings, 50 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:47.159 be ready, come here, and I have discipline now. I 51 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:56.039 have structure now, and that in itself is valuable. And 52 00:03:56.120 --> 00:03:58.360 I think all of us, every guy you see here, 53 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:04.120 they take their job serious. So, m oh, you're late. 54 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:07.560 You're gonna be in trouble. How you doing? He came 55 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:10.879 from Pelican Bay. Also, he's been programming. You know what's 56 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:12.879 funny is And when I was in Pelican Bay, right, 57 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:17.279 these guys are like die hard you know, hardcore officers there, right, 58 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:20.000 And you just see their attitude over there. All the 59 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:22.759 officers are always just miserable and mad. Right, And I'm thinking, 60 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:25.360 I dude, you get to go home every day. 61 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:26.439 You can do anything you. 62 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:28.759 Want every day. RYI to stay, go here, go hit 63 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:30.199 a strip joint, whatever you want. 64 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:30.439 Right. 65 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:32.319 You can even call in and say hey, I quit 66 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:35.240 and go on vacation for a year. Right, And they're miserable. 67 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:37.800 You see us who've been in cages for decades and 68 00:04:37.839 --> 00:04:41.120 got life sentences and were like happier than them, Like dude, 69 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:43.720 you know. So that's when I say, man, you see 70 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:47.160 so many people out there who technically are physically free, 71 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:53.720 but they're mentally in jail, right, because you see. 72 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:54.879 You don't have to be in jail a lot to 73 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:56.120 go mentally are jail. 74 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:57.439 That's what you make of it. 75 00:04:57.839 --> 00:04:59.759 You're doing your time in terms of you you know. 76 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:01.680 Oh, myself, I don't look at it as a prison. 77 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:03.480 So I look at that as my as my study, 78 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:06.160 my office, right, living in a college campus. That's all 79 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:11.199 what you make of it, right, It's perspective. It's like, uh, 80 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:14.680 look at a five block how many lifers and outwops 81 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:15.120 got it out? 82 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:15.360 Right? 83 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:18.439 I said, how do you think they got out? Because 84 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:21.439 they changed the system, they changed the course, they changed 85 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:24.879 the judges, the officers, the teachers, or they changed themselves. 86 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:33.199 Man's that's a fact. Like as saying earlier, life is 87 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:35.759 ten percent what happens to me ninety percent how I 88 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:36.560 react to it. 89 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:39.839 I can see where you're at compre to others. 90 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:41.639 Oh, you know when we never got. 91 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:43.079 A chance to talk before. No, I just see you 92 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:45.439 passing by, Oh, yeah, and I never got a chance 93 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:45.959 to really talk to you. 94 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:54.160 OK, thank you, Matt. Mom and dad came here from Mexico. 95 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:57.800 They worked in different factories that would constantly get raided. 96 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:01.000 There was days they we didn't have money, you know, 97 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:04.800 no food or no hot water or power in our home. 98 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:09.639 Throughout elllementary, I was I was always bullied. I felt 99 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:12.519 like stupid, worthless, and just I gave up on myself 100 00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:15.879 right like I hated school, hated life. I hated myself. 101 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:19.920 When I got to junior in high school, I joined 102 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:22.680 a gang so I wouldn't be bullied anymore. And it worked. 103 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:26.240 The bullying stopped. But then at thirteen years old, I 104 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:29.560 went to juvenile hall and I've been in and out 105 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:32.480 of the system ever since, you know, up until getting 106 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:37.639 into college. It's like everything's changed. Right, Hopefully people see 107 00:06:37.680 --> 00:06:45.680 what this can do, what it's doing. I just want 108 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:49.399 this smile. You're on camera. We come in, I got 109 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:53.480 some assignments for some of the students. We're entering one block. 110 00:06:54.759 --> 00:07:14.160 So now now we're in prison. So this is how 111 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:18.360 the regular buildings are and as you could tell, all 112 00:07:18.360 --> 00:07:22.160 the doors are closed. All the guys are in prison. 113 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:28.480 So we're gonna see Androtti right here at one thirty nine. 114 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:34.000 What's up bart Man? 115 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:34.600 How you doing? 116 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:37.439 Man? What are you up to? 117 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:38.639 Man? 118 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:42.480 Good? Good? Did you read this thing from Ms Monica? 119 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:46.160 Actually you got a couple of minutes. Sure, I'm gonna 120 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:49.160 see if we can pop you out real quick. I 121 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:51.480 didn't bring my laptop, but I wanted to go over 122 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:53.680 with you for what I got to do for doctor Wong. Okay, 123 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:57.360 so let me see it's part that can uh get 124 00:07:57.360 --> 00:08:00.439 on drive it for two minutes. Most officers when they 125 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:04.000 when I come, they know that I work in education, 126 00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:07.680 so when I need to speak to somebody, they know 127 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:11.720 it's like legitimate. They're actually very supportive of our growth, 128 00:08:12.360 --> 00:08:15.600 you know, our transformation. It depends on us too. If 129 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:17.480 we mess it up, then we mess it up. You 130 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:20.560 lose that credibility, You lose that trust. You got to 131 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:27.720 keep that that communication and trust. Are doing art. This 132 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:31.160 is our that's all our on draughting. He's doing a master's. 133 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:35.120 He's got two more courses three a few more to 134 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:37.159 get his masters for a business. 135 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:41.879 So we're discussing with doctor Wong's class communication forty three 136 00:08:42.039 --> 00:08:44.440 forty exactly. You're on it. 137 00:08:44.519 --> 00:08:50.240 Yeah, that's thank you, man, so we can apply those consols. 138 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:57.480 That's perfect. Yes, yes, yes, he reconvene in the morning. 139 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:00.960 Thank you, art, thank you. He's guys are a lot younger, 140 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:03.639 their minds are a lot sharper. Hey, they're schooling me, man. 141 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:05.320 I wouldn't be getting through without them. 142 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:08.120 Now that younger generations are teaching the elders, you know, 143 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:11.360 the teacher can become the student going forward. 144 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:14.600 I'm excited. He's that tangible example and excutting. 145 00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:15.840 A lot of a lot of hope to a lot 146 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:18.720 of people. They're all talking about the CALC program now. 147 00:09:19.279 --> 00:09:21.840 Before it was kind of like an obscure topic. So 148 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:25.279 now he's making it more tangible. So that's how I 149 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:26.519 see it's. 150 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:28.399 And that's what I want to do. Man, that's what 151 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:28.840 he's doing. 152 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:31.960 He's making people, making people ask questions. 153 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:40.759 I'll see okay, I'll see you. I didn't think I 154 00:09:40.759 --> 00:09:42.919 was going to live past eighteen. I was attending a 155 00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:45.240 lot of funerals. A lot of my friends were dying young, 156 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:48.399 and I thought, you know what, when I'm laying in 157 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:51.200 the coffin, I want to have the gang on my face, 158 00:09:51.240 --> 00:09:51.440 you know. 159 00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:51.840 What I mean. 160 00:09:51.879 --> 00:09:55.200 I thought it would look cool. I had romanticized the 161 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:57.759 whole idea of how I wanted my funeral to be. 162 00:09:57.879 --> 00:10:00.519 Instead of planning all a high school graduate or what 163 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:03.519 college or what career they want to have, we're planning 164 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:07.720 our funerals. The goal, like I said, it's always make 165 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:08.320 it out the hood. 166 00:10:08.360 --> 00:10:09.039 Make it out the hood. 167 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:10.879 That's always the goal. You know, why don't we make 168 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:13.799 the goal. Let's change the hood. Let's fix the hood, 169 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:17.679 you know, That's what I want to do. We make 170 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:19.360 it out, and then what we leave all these people 171 00:10:19.399 --> 00:10:22.480 behind and then they come into these systems and do 172 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:25.679 life sentences and go through all this. No, I want 173 00:10:25.720 --> 00:10:29.080 to change that. I want to prevent that. I care 174 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:32.960 about them. That's my people, and I will always tell them, hey, 175 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:33.600 I am you. 176 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:34.600 I am you. 177 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:44.799 I'll tell you a secret. Man. I forget that I 178 00:10:44.879 --> 00:10:48.279 have these tattoos, right like, I've had them for over 179 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:52.480 twenty some years, so I forget I have them up 180 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:55.200 until when I look in the mirror it's like, oh crap, right. 181 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:57.320 But I think a lot of it, no matter how 182 00:10:57.440 --> 00:11:00.360 one looks, has to do with your personality as well, 183 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:01.919 Because even when I was on the streets, I'd be 184 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:04.440 at the supermarket standing in line to pay for stuff, 185 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:07.279 and like there's families, they are little kids, and even 186 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:09.320 their friendly towards me, like hey, what's up, you know, 187 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:12.799 like you they were like all scared, like oh my goodness. Right, 188 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:15.919 So I think I think our ara has a lot 189 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:17.919 to do with it, Like just the vibes, you know, 190 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:21.759 they don't bother me much no more. I just figured, Okay, 191 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:25.399 I got to prove myself. So you know, even if 192 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:27.840 I didn't have the tattoos, at the end of the day, 193 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:31.879 just my rap sheet alone, felonies and everything else, that's 194 00:11:32.120 --> 00:11:34.960 that's a that's a problem. You know, you're trying and 195 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:37.480 go hire, get hired for a job, Your rap sheets 196 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:40.000 a problem. Tattoos are no tattoos are you try and 197 00:11:40.039 --> 00:11:43.960 get housing? Having a felony on your record is a problem. 198 00:11:44.360 --> 00:11:52.279 Control two block. I went to a parole consultation hearing. 199 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:55.960 The commissioner told me, with your history, your rap sheet 200 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:58.679 and the way you look, you're the last person that 201 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:00.720 whatever get out, should ever get out or could ever 202 00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:03.159 get out. And when you get out, you're a testament 203 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:06.159 for others. It's the same one you've already done. And 204 00:12:06.519 --> 00:12:08.879 I've been thinking about that ever since. That's why I 205 00:12:08.919 --> 00:12:11.840 want to go for that Masters and that PhD just 206 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:14.440 be ready Monday. Just show the guys. Hey, dude, you know, 207 00:12:14.600 --> 00:12:18.200 like I said, be the change you wish to see. 208 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:22.679 I say we go to five earlier that we're just 209 00:12:23.039 --> 00:12:25.039 the day was just beginning, but right now it should 210 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:31.279 be more active. Here we go a fine block. Look 211 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:34.600 at the difference from this building right you look around, 212 00:12:36.759 --> 00:12:39.559 All the cell doors are open as opposed to the 213 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:44.120 other blocks we just went into. So that's the privilege 214 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:46.480 of being in this block. Here, it's just a whole 215 00:12:46.480 --> 00:13:08.279 different vibe. Man, everybody here is doing something. I realized 216 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:11.879 that that's the privilege I earned tink about what eighteen 217 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:19.600 years to earn it, but I got it. Christian, what's 218 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:22.159 up man? Here's one of my mentors. Remember I was 219 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:24.840 mentioning how I don't know how to work a laptop. 220 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:25.960 I didn't know how to do none of that. 221 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:26.919 This is who. 222 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:35.919 Somebody else has got called suitable. Let's go see. Okay, 223 00:13:36.159 --> 00:13:45.159 I hear clapping. Let's see what happened? Oh is that Edwin? 224 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:46.360 Edwin? 225 00:13:59.600 --> 00:13:59.879 That's why? 226 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:05.519 And when coom here man, he just got felt suitable 227 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:06.039 right now. 228 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:08.840 Less than an hour ago. 229 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:13.360 That timing to get let me catch you. 230 00:14:14.039 --> 00:14:15.919 I wouldn't be able to do this without any other 231 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:19.360 guys here, you know. And that's what I'm appreciated about 232 00:14:19.399 --> 00:14:21.440 this and this journey that I'm in because I know 233 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:24.440 I haven't done it by myself. And I'm grateful for 234 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:26.480 everything that i have here and all the opportunities that 235 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:29.559 I've been offered at this institution, at this family that 236 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:30.159 i have here. 237 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:33.720 So I'm thankful, Thank you. Man Hey, I got my 238 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:35.639 arm around him. I could feel his heart beating right 239 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:39.039 here out of his shoulder. I lie, I feel it. 240 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:44.080 So by first week of April, I'll be home my 241 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:47.080 wife and son, and for me, my next step is 242 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:49.759 to give away what I have learned through this process 243 00:14:49.799 --> 00:14:53.080 of change and this process of transformation to the next man, know, 244 00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:54.879 in order for them to find out pathway. If I 245 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:59.360 could change one person, I mean, that would be my purpose. 246 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:03.759 Oh, you are purpose. We ain't capture no moments like 247 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:07.120 this in the other blocks. That's the difference in this 248 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:09.600 block where we had Jack oh wait wait, wait, hold on, 249 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:11.600 hold on, hold on, hold on, before we even do that, 250 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:14.000 come here Jack. Jack finally is the one that got 251 00:15:14.039 --> 00:15:16.240 me in here. He had at walk Life without the 252 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:18.120 possibility of parole. He's supposed to die in one of 253 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:22.679 these cages, right, thirty nine years. He just got paroled. 254 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:26.720 He's got found suitable after thirty nine years. Jack, take 255 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:27.639 it away, man, this. 256 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:29.000 Isn't the first thing they tell you. When you have 257 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:30.600 life without it, you're here to die. 258 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:31.639 Does serves as. 259 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:33.559 Much time as possible and then die. I was used 260 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:35.960 to the chaos and the madness and all that. But 261 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:37.960 then when we got here, they're like, it didn't matter 262 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:39.759 if I had life without it was like, you get 263 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:43.559 a chance now. We don't care what your sentence was, man, 264 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:45.120 all we want to know is what are you willing 265 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:49.840 to do now? And that's when I started participating and 266 00:15:49.960 --> 00:15:52.200 watching all the dogs. I mean they brought they brought 267 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:54.320 dogs into a prison, you know, and we were like, 268 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:56.519 I hadn't touched the dog in more than thirty years. 269 00:15:59.399 --> 00:16:02.759 For the first time in decades, man, I could actually 270 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:06.440 feel something good now. In prison, you're taught when you hate, 271 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:10.559 you get angry, all the all the negative things. When 272 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:12.559 you're around a dog, you know. I had a puppy 273 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:16.480 climb into my lap and it was like different. It 274 00:16:16.559 --> 00:16:18.600 was like I get to feel again for the first 275 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:20.440 time since I was a child. Man, I like fell 276 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:22.919 in love with something. You know, you don't do that 277 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:27.240 in prison. I was finally had a chance to do 278 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:29.600 something to give back. These dogs are going to a 279 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:32.279 family now, you know, and they're writing us and telling 280 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:36.440 us how much they love their dogs. We're doing something 281 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:39.960 right now. Well, then other people notice, then the warden notice, 282 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:43.360 then Sacramento notice, then the Governor's office notice, you know. 283 00:16:43.440 --> 00:16:45.720 And then one day they called me over and they said, man, look, 284 00:16:46.240 --> 00:16:49.840 you know, we're interviewing you for a possible commutation. Less 285 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:52.000 than a year later, they called me back over and said, 286 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:54.559 we're going to commute your sense from life without to 287 00:16:54.639 --> 00:16:57.559 life with and if the board approves you, you can 288 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:00.840 go home. And now, after thirty nine years in prison, 289 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:02.679 I'm gonna get to go home. 290 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:06.200 Look at the stories we're catching here. As soon as 291 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:08.000 we walked in, we see one guy because he just 292 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:10.839 got found suitable. We got this guy thirty nine years 293 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:11.880 to lad You see the dot. 294 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:14.519 I mean, we have eleven people in this program with 295 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:17.720 paroles waiting to go home right now. We have a 296 00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:21.480 reciticism rate in the program of SERRA. We've had approximately 297 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:25.519 ninety to one hundred different people that have had earned 298 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:28.519 paroles in this program. None of them have come back. 299 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:29.160 None. 300 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:32.759 Thirty three people have had their senses commuted, they've all 301 00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:34.480 gone home. None of them have come back. 302 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:36.519 And then we got a bunch of cow State LA 303 00:17:36.599 --> 00:17:39.799 students that have been commuted and out. So that just 304 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:42.839 shows you what's going on at this facility. Dude, we 305 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:46.079 can make a strong argument here for doing this in 306 00:17:46.119 --> 00:17:49.839 more of the prisons. Then we got this guy. 307 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:54.319 This is Anthony Sneath. Anthony Sneed's been in prison for 308 00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:56.119 what thirty years? 309 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:57.039 Thirty four years. 310 00:17:57.559 --> 00:17:59.559 Once you tell us about Ramble and what you're doing. 311 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:02.519 If you can see Ramboy, the poor bloody German shepherd. 312 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:08.400 He he's the prettiest dog in the program. He's adopted already, 313 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:12.279 He's on his sixth week and he leaves next week. 314 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:15.119 Rambod coming out out. 315 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:17.200 Good boy down. 316 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:21.160 Sick, Yes, good boy. 317 00:18:21.880 --> 00:18:25.160 Some of these dogs is runaway dogs. They're picked up 318 00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:28.079 off the street and when they adopt these dogs, they 319 00:18:28.119 --> 00:18:31.640 have a couple of choices. One of the choices to 320 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:34.160 take the dog going with it or send them to 321 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:36.400 us for six extra weeks for the dogs can be 322 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:41.200 trained in that six weeks period we trained the dog 323 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:45.039 a number of commands and that's six weeks. The owners 324 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:47.799 come pick them up from the past for life shelter. 325 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:50.359 But other than that, yeah, they come from the shelter 326 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:53.880 if we save them. But I think the dogs save us. 327 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:56.839 I don't really believe we saved the dog. For the 328 00:18:56.839 --> 00:18:57.400 most part. 329 00:18:58.000 --> 00:19:00.599 The dogs may save us, you know. 330 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:02.720 And I'm just happy to be part of the program 331 00:19:02.759 --> 00:19:18.319 because it saved my life. 332 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:20.920 So one of the things that we have here up 333 00:19:20.960 --> 00:19:24.200 on the board, it's something that I like to call 334 00:19:24.359 --> 00:19:27.759 the vision board. These are all men who are sentenced 335 00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:30.680 to life without the possibility of parole, who were sentenced 336 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:34.480 to die in prison, who have since been released or 337 00:19:34.519 --> 00:19:37.599 out there doing fantastic things. I mean, these are guys 338 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:41.359 that I literally went to child with, hang out here, 339 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:48.039 trained dogs together. This board is so inspiring because it's 340 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:51.240 something that's tangible, it's real. It lets me know, like 341 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:54.359 I can go home, we can go home. It's about 342 00:19:54.400 --> 00:19:57.119 the decisions I make, It's about who I want to 343 00:19:57.119 --> 00:20:00.240 be up in here, and it's just amazing to see 344 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:02.640 some of these guys out there man and with their 345 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:06.200 kids and their families and just living a productive life. 346 00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:08.119 This is the evidence. 347 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:12.680 This is the proof that it exists, man, and it's possible. 348 00:20:13.920 --> 00:20:15.400 And I'm just I'm inspired by this. 349 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:15.640 Man. 350 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:18.359 I come in here every single day and I just 351 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:19.440 like to look at this board. 352 00:20:20.119 --> 00:20:20.519 I love it. 353 00:20:20.599 --> 00:20:20.759 Man. 354 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:32.200 So I'm gonna give you guys a churm. Myself my 355 00:20:32.319 --> 00:20:42.599 work office actually, so this is myself. It's pretty plain. Books. Books, 356 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:47.279 That's where I hang my clothes. That's the only photo 357 00:20:47.319 --> 00:20:50.720 I have up is my mom, my dad, and my brother, 358 00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:56.799 all three of them that they all passed away from COVID. 359 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:06.960 Usually the guys come and borrow books, so they're all 360 00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:10.839 real good. I read, uh, just for the day every day, 361 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:16.319 just mercy the deepest Well. This is Nadine Burke Harris 362 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:21.400 about adverse childhood experiences. That's how I learned the the 363 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:28.839 problems I had, how we show up verbaltudo the sentences 364 00:21:28.839 --> 00:21:32.519 that create us. And I even have uh kids books. 365 00:21:32.559 --> 00:21:35.240 I I like to read to my nephews and nieces 366 00:21:35.240 --> 00:21:40.359 over the phone and right along with Rampage, it's the 367 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:44.279 l A Rams and Ben and Emma's big hit. It's 368 00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:48.920 actually by Governor News and uh it's about dyslexia, kids 369 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:53.680 with dyslexia, and I actually got this cause I A, 370 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:58.039 I actually have some s some form of dyslexia. I 371 00:21:58.039 --> 00:22:04.039 I didn't even know it. Also got some photos. This 372 00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:11.880 was me and my daughter. This was twenty seventeen Pelican 373 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:17.599 Bay was a graduation and this was actually taken four 374 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:22.119 days before I got busted. I was up to no good. 375 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:24.400 You could tell my I'm wearing a leather jacket. You 376 00:22:24.440 --> 00:22:27.599 see the pocket hanging right there, all bulging, all heavy. 377 00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:32.039 I had two guns in there and a few extra clips. Right, 378 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:38.039 I mean that's who I was. I can't I can't 379 00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:48.400 deny it. Eddie here, how are you doing so? Mcreter Man? 380 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:50.519 How many? How much? I mean you have? 381 00:22:50.759 --> 00:22:50.880 So? 382 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:52.960 I had a fourteen A life savings and I did 383 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:54.759 a total twenty two years. 384 00:22:54.559 --> 00:22:58.480 So far on that sense, tell him Tell who just 385 00:22:58.519 --> 00:23:00.279 got found suitable recently. 386 00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:05.160 Edwin or myself. Yeah, so I got found suitable early 387 00:23:05.200 --> 00:23:08.200 in November. So all works out the way. It's supposed 388 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:10.519 to all be home in March on the next year, 389 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:14.039 and none of us want to be in prison forever 390 00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:16.079 for the rest of our lives. The game members, criminals, people, 391 00:23:16.079 --> 00:23:19.200 I heard others right, and give you the opportunity. We 392 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:22.480 are gonna make good on those opportunities right and do 393 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:25.440 positive things. And I think that's what you're seeing today 394 00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:27.720 is getting a little glimpse of what that looks like 395 00:23:28.359 --> 00:23:31.599 when people are giving an opportunity to have education right. 396 00:23:31.799 --> 00:23:34.880 Nobody can say it can't be done because we're seeing it. 397 00:23:35.079 --> 00:23:37.559 We're gonna go back to Ms. Monica's I'll Sing. 398 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:38.319 You Thank You Guys. 399 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:45.599 Video. All these guys here have earned their way here 400 00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:51.039 because they've been positively programming. They've done college or basically 401 00:23:51.079 --> 00:23:53.920