1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, before we start this episode, we just wanted 2 00:00:03,319 --> 00:00:05,400 to say something. One of the big ideas behind this 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,839 movie is that music has the power to bring people 4 00:00:07,839 --> 00:00:10,960 of different ages and cultures together. And with that, they 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,359 have created a fantastic soundtrack of amazing artists and songs, 6 00:00:15,439 --> 00:00:17,879 and I just wanted to encourage everybody to check it out. 7 00:00:17,879 --> 00:00:20,359 I'll leave a link in the show notes, and without 8 00:00:20,359 --> 00:00:24,480 further ado, here's the show. You ready, Jay Rennity, Okay. 9 00:00:24,359 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: This is the story of Bill and Ted Face to Music. 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:32,039 Speaker 3: Hello everybody, and welcome to the Surely You Can't Be 11 00:00:32,359 --> 00:00:37,159 Serious podcast, discussing and debating the iconic and the forgotten 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,520 of eighties and nineties pop culture with your co hosts 13 00:00:40,799 --> 00:00:43,320 James D. Graves and Jason Colliping. 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: All Right, everybody, welcome back to the Shirley you Can't 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,079 Be Serious Podcasts. Last week we covered Bill and ted 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,399 Excellent Adventure and Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey, and today 17 00:00:55,479 --> 00:00:59,479 we are here to talk about the third long awaited installment, 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,560 Billed Face the Music. 19 00:01:01,719 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: This is kind of a new deal for us. We 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,599 don't typically do new movies. 21 00:01:04,799 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: We never do new movies. Like the newest movie that 22 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,159 we've done is still like seven years old or something 23 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,120 like that, twenty thirteen, right. 24 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. 25 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:16,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. 26 00:01:16,359 --> 00:01:19,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. So we had to watch this study it, cram 27 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,239 for it, and now we're podcasting about. 28 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,599 Speaker 1: It, right, and this not being a nostalgia piece, is 29 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,519 going to be a little bit different. I think a 30 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,920 lot of people are probably tuning in to learn is 31 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,560 it worth the watch? And so maybe that's a question 32 00:01:33,599 --> 00:01:34,359 that we can answer. 33 00:01:34,359 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: Now. 34 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to go ahead. I mean, I'm good to 35 00:01:36,079 --> 00:01:37,959 answer it. Are you good to answer it? Yeah? I am. 36 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,599 I'm going to say yes, worth the watch? 37 00:01:40,879 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely, a resounding yes from me. 38 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. So now that we've said that, be aware that 39 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,079 spoilers might be coming along along the way. We'll try 40 00:01:49,079 --> 00:01:51,719 to for the first little bit give you information without 41 00:01:51,879 --> 00:01:54,280 doing spoilers. But at some point we're going to give 42 00:01:54,319 --> 00:01:56,480 the air raid siren of spoiler alerts. So if you 43 00:01:56,599 --> 00:01:59,079 haven't seen it yet and you want no information, like 44 00:01:59,239 --> 00:02:01,640 I do, you can know that Jason and Dee give 45 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,560 it our stamp of approval. Go watch it. I will say, 46 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,400 be prepared in the beginning to think it's a little fishy, 47 00:02:07,519 --> 00:02:10,520 but then once you ease in and don't stress out 48 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,719 about it, it becomes it becomes a fun little ride. Jason, 49 00:02:13,719 --> 00:02:14,240 what do you think? 50 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think the goal of the movie. 51 00:02:16,879 --> 00:02:18,919 I saw a quote from Ed Solomon. Their goal was 52 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,960 to make a movie that's fun, funny and sweet. And 53 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,599 with that goal in mind, they achieved their goal absolutely. 54 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,159 Speaker 1: And the other thing to note is I watched this 55 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,879 with my thirteen year old kid and felt good about it. 56 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, me too. It's rate at PG thirteen, 57 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:35,919 and really there's a couple of. 58 00:02:36,039 --> 00:02:38,199 Speaker 1: I don't even know what the I was sitting here struggling. 59 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,680 I was just like, there's not profanity, there's not sexual anything. 60 00:02:42,879 --> 00:02:45,719 I mean, they barely peck their wives. It's just I 61 00:02:45,759 --> 00:02:48,639 couldn't figure out what the PG thirteen was about other 62 00:02:48,719 --> 00:02:50,960 than kind of the rough scene in the prison. That's 63 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:51,759 about all I can see. 64 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,319 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, I mean, he says the word 65 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:55,639 dickweed a couple of times. 66 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,439 Speaker 1: But that was a PG rating back in eighty nine 67 00:02:58,479 --> 00:03:00,280 and ninety one, right, Yeah. 68 00:03:00,039 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: I guess. Anyway, Yeah, I watched it with my sixteen 69 00:03:03,039 --> 00:03:05,439 year old. He laughed and we had a great time 70 00:03:05,479 --> 00:03:09,280 and it was definitely a bonding, nostalgic event for me. 71 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,560 But just kind of a fun night for him. And 72 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,360 so yeah, I think it's pretty pretty tame to watch 73 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:14,800 with the kids. 74 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely totally. I mean, cleaner than any Marvel movie 75 00:03:18,199 --> 00:03:18,560 for sure. 76 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure. Okay, so, I mean we're 77 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,840 just going to kind of give an abbreviated walk through 78 00:03:25,879 --> 00:03:28,360 this movie. I think the interesting part that we need 79 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,159 to discuss this movie. The incubation for this movie has 80 00:03:31,199 --> 00:03:32,759 been at least ten years long. 81 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, probably close to twelve. They had a script 82 00:03:36,439 --> 00:03:39,039 that they were ready to work with, ready to put 83 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,159 onto film back in the before twenty ten. But there's 84 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,759 I mean, they've had issues with financing and distribution rights 85 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,000 and that sort of thing, and so yeah, it's been 86 00:03:49,039 --> 00:03:52,360 a long time coming. And then in twenty eighteen we 87 00:03:52,479 --> 00:03:55,560 got confirmation that it would happen, and then filming finished 88 00:03:55,639 --> 00:03:56,240 up last year. 89 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, sadly, I mean really unfortunately for them. They 90 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,599 released it at one of the worst possible times of 91 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,039 movie going history. This movie definitely was impacted by the coronavirus. 92 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,599 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that truly sucks. So the budget on this 93 00:04:11,719 --> 00:04:15,919 movie was twenty five million. Their opening weekend, which was 94 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,959 just last weekend, it's just been this week. They were 95 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,600 at about a million point two in the box office, 96 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,639 which I don't know how you mean. This movie came 97 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,560 out in some theaters, but for most of the world, 98 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,319 we're watching it on demand, like I watched it through 99 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,279 Amazon Prime. 100 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,759 Speaker 2: Right right, me too, Me too? Okay, So interestingly you 101 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,959 mentioned twenty ten. This is way back when twenty ten, 102 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,519 this ten years ago. Couna Reeves indicated that Chris Matheson 103 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,439 and Ed Solomon were definitely working on a Bill and 104 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,079 Ted three. Some of the ideas that they had involved 105 00:04:48,079 --> 00:04:51,079 in this was time travel to the prehistoric era. 106 00:04:51,319 --> 00:04:51,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. 107 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 2: They thought at that time that Socrates, you know, so 108 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,720 greats would be back. Yes, that Billy the Kid would 109 00:04:58,759 --> 00:05:03,800 be back. They were expecting a cameo from Eddie van Halen. 110 00:05:03,959 --> 00:05:05,759 Speaker 1: Oh man, that would have been awesome. You kind of 111 00:05:05,759 --> 00:05:08,560 called that on the last episode of Wouldn't It Be Great? 112 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,279 Because Eddie van Halen had said after Bill and Ted's 113 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,639 Excellent Adventure came out that he would have been happy 114 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,800 to have been a part of the movie. And I mean, 115 00:05:15,879 --> 00:05:17,959 there was a huge opportunity for that to happen. I 116 00:05:17,959 --> 00:05:19,519 guess they just they couldn't work it out. 117 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: I'm really sad that would have been super cool. Yeah, 118 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,600 and you know that groundwork was laid back in eighty 119 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,079 nine and for that to come to fruition would have 120 00:05:29,079 --> 00:05:32,000 been amazing. But I'm not sure Eddie's in the best 121 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,319 of health right now. You know, he's definitely not very 122 00:05:34,319 --> 00:05:37,079 active musically, which that would have been really cool to see. 123 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,399 Speaker 1: Well, ultimately, what they did once they once they were 124 00:05:40,439 --> 00:05:44,240 full on about it, they started pushing social media a lot. 125 00:05:44,319 --> 00:05:46,639 I know I heard about it first on Twitter, and 126 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,879 then they did just earlier this year, after they had 127 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,759 finished the movie, they did this contest for people to 128 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,199 submit videos of themselves playing along to one of the 129 00:05:57,199 --> 00:05:59,759 songs from the movie. And as it turns out, those 130 00:05:59,759 --> 00:06:00,959 people are in the movie. 131 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 2: That's really I wish we'd have done that. Man, that 132 00:06:02,959 --> 00:06:04,360 was a blown opportunity by us. 133 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know how good I can dance, but 134 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,839 I would have loved to have had a little bit 135 00:06:08,879 --> 00:06:09,560 part in this thing. 136 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: Oh, it had been so cool. So that is a 137 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,160 crazy credit. Another crazy credit that I just found out 138 00:06:16,199 --> 00:06:19,240 about is that there's a post credit scene of Bill 139 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,600 and Ted in the retirement home in like the old 140 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:22,879 Folks Home, jamming out. 141 00:06:22,959 --> 00:06:25,759 Speaker 1: Yes. So yeah, hang on for the post credit scene. 142 00:06:25,879 --> 00:06:30,279 I watched it. Jason got distracted before before he watched 143 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,519 it all the way through. But yes, there is a 144 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,480 post credit scene where they're playing some guitar. 145 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,319 Speaker 2: Just a couple of more notes about the incubation period 146 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,560 on this movie. The interesting thing to me is that 147 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,199 the studio did not want a sequel. Like the studio 148 00:06:43,759 --> 00:06:45,759 was like, hey, let's if you guys want to do 149 00:06:45,759 --> 00:06:48,120 a Bill and Ted movie, let's just reboot it and 150 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,680 start over. Oh And Chris Matheson and Ed Solomon and 151 00:06:51,759 --> 00:06:53,720 Alex Winner and Keanu Reeves were like, no way, man, 152 00:06:53,759 --> 00:06:56,639 this needs to be a sequel. Yeah, which to me, 153 00:06:56,759 --> 00:06:59,160 I'm like, listen, I mean, Keanu Reeves is a full 154 00:06:59,199 --> 00:07:02,639 blown movie star. Now why would you want to I mean, 155 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,360 he's he's ready to go, and these characters were successful. 156 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,639 I don't know why you would fight that idea. 157 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,079 Speaker 1: But yeah, well I'm glad that they won that battle 158 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,319 because a reboot would have been the wrong thing. I 159 00:07:13,319 --> 00:07:15,000 mean it would have been it would have been Bill 160 00:07:15,079 --> 00:07:18,600 and Ted's excellent TV show from back in ninety two, 161 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,680 which was just horrible. It's horrible. 162 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: I never saw it. 163 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: Sadly, you didn't miss anything Okay, well, that's good. 164 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,199 Speaker 2: The director of this movie is a guy named Dean Perso. 165 00:07:30,399 --> 00:07:34,720 He has been attached to direct since August of twenty twelve. 166 00:07:34,959 --> 00:07:38,879 Speaker 1: Oh wow. Well, and he did movies like Galaxy Quest 167 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,000 and Fun with Dick and Jane, which to me, I mean, 168 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,879 that's the right feel. You know, You've that kind of quirky, 169 00:07:45,079 --> 00:07:49,199 absurd humor is exactly what Bill and Ted need. Yeah. 170 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,319 Speaker 2: I mentioned to you some of the interesting producers on 171 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,560 this movie. Yeah, so as I was watching the post 172 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,600 credit before I bailed on the post credit scene. I 173 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,240 mean some of the producers are Ed Solomon, Yeah, he's 174 00:08:00,279 --> 00:08:03,519 the writer, Alex Winter, he plays Bill. You have Steven Soderberg, 175 00:08:03,639 --> 00:08:05,399 who is an executive producer. 176 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 177 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,079 Speaker 2: But William Sadler is a producer. That's the guy who 178 00:08:08,079 --> 00:08:08,879 plays Death. 179 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Grim Reaper, and he is a predominant part of 180 00:08:11,279 --> 00:08:13,720 the movie. You you you mentioned, you know who is 181 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:16,800 in the movie. The only people to come back are 182 00:08:17,399 --> 00:08:22,199 Bill and Ted and then Ted's dad, Captain Logan. Yes, 183 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,720 how Landon Jr. So how Landon Junior is how old. 184 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: He's nearly eighty. He's pushing eighty. You know, he looks 185 00:08:29,519 --> 00:08:32,279 about the same as he did in nineteen eighty eight. 186 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,519 Poor guy. So Amy Stock she's the girl who played 187 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,559 Missy in the first one. Yeah, I mean mom, I 188 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:44,759 mean Missy. Yeah. And now she's marrying Deacon, Ted's younger brother, right, 189 00:08:46,039 --> 00:08:46,440 and that. 190 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: Makes Napoleon behind because he was a dick. Before we 191 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,879 roll into the plot parts of the movie, let's talk 192 00:08:59,039 --> 00:09:01,519 just a little bit about the actors in the movie, 193 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,200 because that's we're not spoiling anything by that. Playing the 194 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:10,399 part of Ted's daughter is Bridget Lundy Payne, who hasn't 195 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,879 been in a whole lot of other stuff. She actually 196 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:18,039 is the daughter of a couple of musicians, Laura Lundy 197 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,960 and Robert Paine. They both are performers in the Bay Area, 198 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,399 and she considers herself more of a pop artist than 199 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:29,919 an actress. But cool. She plays Billy, who is Ted's daughter, 200 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,559 and then Bill's daughter is thea. She is played by 201 00:09:33,639 --> 00:09:37,279 Samara Weaving, who has been in quite a bit of stuff. 202 00:09:37,399 --> 00:09:40,679 As a matter of fact, I was literally yesterday, I'm 203 00:09:40,759 --> 00:09:43,519 walking through my living room and Brock is watching this 204 00:09:43,639 --> 00:09:45,840 movie that I've seen him watch before that I just 205 00:09:45,879 --> 00:09:48,759 thought was horrible. But as I'm going through, I'm like, 206 00:09:48,879 --> 00:09:51,320 I know that girl. Who is that girl? The name 207 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,639 of the movie is The Babysitter. Don't let your kids 208 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,080 watch it if they're under the age of like fifteen, 209 00:09:56,279 --> 00:09:59,200 But she is the babysitter. She's one of the main 210 00:09:59,519 --> 00:10:04,759 roles in the film. Interestingly, she is the niece of 211 00:10:05,039 --> 00:10:08,519 Hugo Weaving. And if you don't recognize that name right off, 212 00:10:08,759 --> 00:10:11,120 he was the elf king in Lord of the Rings, 213 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,080 which I know you don't care for. But he was 214 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,840 also in a movie in nineteen ninety nine where he 215 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,159 played Agent Smith in that movie was called The Matrix. 216 00:10:21,399 --> 00:10:25,480 Oh during, mister Keanu reeves, I have to think that 217 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,919 Agent Smith must have put in a good word with 218 00:10:29,039 --> 00:10:32,440 Neo so that his niece could be a major role 219 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,480 in this movie. I'm going to be as forthcoming as 220 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:37,200 I can be, mister Anderson. 221 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,159 Speaker 2: You're here because we need your home. 222 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: And she did a fantastic job. I'll just say that, 223 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,679 I think she was fantastic in the role. And so 224 00:10:45,799 --> 00:10:49,519 those are your major players. And then for some smaller 225 00:10:49,639 --> 00:10:53,679 parts that honestly to me, made the movie. You've got 226 00:10:53,919 --> 00:10:56,519 Anthony Kerrigan, who I'll come to in just a second. 227 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,440 You've got Aaron Hayes, You've got Jimmiya and Maize, Holland Taylor, 228 00:11:00,519 --> 00:11:06,039 and then Jillian Bell. So I'll start with Jillian Bell. 229 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,279 Jillian Bell as the psychiatrist. Yes, she does a fantastic 230 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,840 job in her part as a psychiatrist. My thirteen year 231 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,759 old thought she was maybe the funniest part of the movie. Wow, Okay, 232 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,120 Holland Taylor, you will recognize when you see her, Jason, 233 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:22,759 where did you? Where do you remember from? 234 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,519 Speaker 2: So I'm looking at her, I'm like, man, I know 235 00:11:24,639 --> 00:11:28,519 this lady. She is from Romancing the Stone. She is 236 00:11:28,799 --> 00:11:31,360 Joni's friend who tries to talk her out of going 237 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:32,639 to Cartagena. 238 00:11:32,759 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: Uh huh. 239 00:11:33,399 --> 00:11:36,399 Speaker 2: And she was old I thought in nineteen eighty four. 240 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: Well, I recognized her from Bosom Buddies. Oh man, she's 241 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,480 like the old Boss and Bosom Buddies. 242 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,159 Speaker 2: Now, okay, that's the time back then. 243 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,039 Speaker 1: I mean that's like eighty two or something. 244 00:11:50,039 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: I'm okay, cool. 245 00:11:51,759 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, so she plays the Great Leader. You've got 246 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,960 Beck Bennett, who you probably will recognize for Saturday Night Live. 247 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,039 He's playing dec and who we mentioned is marrying. 248 00:12:01,759 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: Missy yeah, Deacon Mary's Missy Yeah. 249 00:12:04,159 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: And then you have the two princesses, who are once 250 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,399 again played by different actresses. We've had different actresses playing 251 00:12:09,399 --> 00:12:13,519 the princesses in every single movie. Jamia Mays plays Princess 252 00:12:13,759 --> 00:12:17,320 Joanna if you've seen Glee, she's like the love interest 253 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,480 of the music teacher in Glee, and then Aaron Hayes 254 00:12:20,519 --> 00:12:25,080 plays Elizabeth. She was in the TV show Parenthood, which 255 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,039 is of course based on the movie Parenthood, which of 256 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:33,080 course is the other very Ted like part played by 257 00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:33,879 Keanu Reeves. 258 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,159 Speaker 2: Yes, I've seen some people complaining that it wasn't the 259 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,159 original princesses. These girls do a great job, and they 260 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,440 look great and they're they're beautiful, and they pull off 261 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,200 the English medieval princess and all that stuff. I was 262 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,960 a little bit sad, especially Diane Franklin. 263 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's kind of an iconic eighties girl because there 264 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,960 were several like John Cusack. 265 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,879 Speaker 2: He's a dead he was in last American version. Yeah, 266 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,919 in Bell and Ted's Excellent Adventure, and she's on Twitter. 267 00:13:00,919 --> 00:13:03,759 She's very active, she's still beautiful. I think they could 268 00:13:03,799 --> 00:13:06,720 have maybe used her and that would have been really cool. 269 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,639 Speaker 1: Right, But the ladies that they have playing the princesses 270 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,120 do it. I think they do a good job. 271 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 2: They did do a good job. 272 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: They didn't have a lot to work with, and we 273 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,159 can talk about that in a minute, but it felt 274 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,960 like there was probably supposed to be more with them 275 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,279 that we just didn't get in the movie. And then 276 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:26,799 back to Parenthood the TV series. There's another actor, Anthony Kerrigan, 277 00:13:27,519 --> 00:13:31,639 and he plays the part of Dennis Caleb McCoy, who, 278 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,080 if you've seen the previews, is the robot in the 279 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,919 movie and to me, is the best part of the 280 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,559 whole stinking movie. 281 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: My only regret is there was not more of him. 282 00:13:42,759 --> 00:13:46,279 He was very funny at all the right times. It 283 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,159 made me left one last. 284 00:13:47,919 --> 00:13:50,279 Speaker 1: Note on an actor. And then we can dive into 285 00:13:50,639 --> 00:13:52,559 We can dive into the plot a little bit full 286 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,200 on spoiler alert. There is one last actress, Kristin Shall. 287 00:13:56,519 --> 00:14:00,720 She plays the part of Kelly, who is Rufus's George 288 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,840 Carlin is obviously no longer with us, but they did 289 00:14:03,879 --> 00:14:07,639 a nod to him and his real daughter's name is 290 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,600 Kelly Carlin, and so for his daughter in the movie, 291 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,480 they had the character be named Kelly as well. I 292 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,879 thought that was pretty cool. All right, are you ready 293 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:18,879 to dive into the plot. 294 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: Let's dive in his blood. 295 00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:29,039 Speaker 1: Okay, we're on spoiler alert everybody. Here we go. We're 296 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,120 gonna start talking about the plot. So if you haven't 297 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,879 seen it, go watch it now, come back to us afterwards. 298 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,120 So this is a movie of Bill and Ted's midlife crisis. 299 00:14:38,559 --> 00:14:42,519 They have reached middle age and they have not created 300 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,600 the song that would unite humanity and bring world peace. 301 00:14:46,919 --> 00:14:49,960 And as I mentioned in our last episode, how many 302 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,039 guys our age are in that spot where you're like, man, 303 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,120 I felt like my life was going to be so 304 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,440 much more than this, and here I am not living 305 00:14:58,519 --> 00:15:00,399 up to the potential I thought I had. And so 306 00:15:00,639 --> 00:15:02,600 what makes it even worse for these guys is they 307 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,440 were flat out told they're going to save the world 308 00:15:05,759 --> 00:15:08,759 and it still hasn't happened yet, right, right, So they 309 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,919 are at the beginning of the movie playing for as 310 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:17,320 we mentioned, Missy and Deacon's wedding, we get a retelling. 311 00:15:17,399 --> 00:15:19,720 I gotta say I started, I said at the beginning, 312 00:15:19,759 --> 00:15:22,320 this starts off kind of slow, and I thought that 313 00:15:22,519 --> 00:15:25,759 having it start off with the wedding was a bad choice. 314 00:15:25,879 --> 00:15:27,759 I think just you've got to have a little bit 315 00:15:27,759 --> 00:15:29,879 of a punchy action at the beginning of the movie. 316 00:15:29,919 --> 00:15:32,559 I mean, at the very beginning, the daughters describe what 317 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,279 we already know has happened in Bill and Ted's Excellent 318 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,679 Adventure and Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey. We get, you know, 319 00:15:38,919 --> 00:15:42,360 a montage scene on that. But then it goes to 320 00:15:42,399 --> 00:15:45,200 this wedding, which is I mean, the guests are bored 321 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,320 and it's kind of painful, and I didn't really want 322 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,080 to start the movie off that way. And then they 323 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,320 again they rehash some stuff that didn't need to be retold. 324 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've kind of got to tolerate the beginning of 325 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,360 the movie before it picks up. Yeah, and you prepped 326 00:15:57,399 --> 00:15:59,240 me for that, And you were right when that that 327 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,960 song that they at the wedding, there are some people 328 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,559 that I think will bail at that moment, and I'm like, 329 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,559 that's that's gonna be a mistake. 330 00:16:12,639 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: I gotta say, I actually really like the song. I 331 00:16:15,559 --> 00:16:19,000 was on board with with THEA and Billy. I was 332 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,559 like that, this is actually good. So you have You've 333 00:16:22,559 --> 00:16:25,879 got Keanu Reeves. You know, they weren't musicians at all, 334 00:16:25,919 --> 00:16:28,080 Like they had no idea what to do until the 335 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,879 very end of Bogus Journey. Where they ran off and 336 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,360 learned how to play guitar for eighteen months. 337 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:33,919 Speaker 2: That's right. 338 00:16:34,399 --> 00:16:39,279 Speaker 1: But by the time we reach present day, they're playing 339 00:16:40,039 --> 00:16:43,200 three or four different types of instruments at a time. 340 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:50,080 And Alex Winter starts starts with this vocal there's a 341 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,720 band I've really this is true. There's a band called 342 00:16:52,759 --> 00:16:56,600 The Who, and it's not Who, it's just Hu. They're 343 00:16:56,639 --> 00:16:59,840 out of Mongolia and they do this throat singing things, 344 00:17:00,039 --> 00:17:02,720 kind of a mix between rock and roll and throat singing. 345 00:17:02,759 --> 00:17:06,000 I've actually seen him live. My dad loves him and 346 00:17:06,039 --> 00:17:07,279 he was like, Hey, I got to take us to 347 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:09,680 the concert. You want to go. I was like, sure, Dad, 348 00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:12,440 I'll go to a concert with you. We've never done 349 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,079 that before. And so we got to see these guys 350 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,880 do this throat singing rock and roll music and I 351 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:18,880 it was fantastic. 352 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 2: Okay, Ed, you're endorsing the song at the beginning of 353 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:22,359 the movie. 354 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I know, I guess hate it, but I loved it. 355 00:17:25,799 --> 00:17:28,880 I loved it. And Ted is playing the Theoreman, which 356 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,680 they give him props like Billy and the give him 357 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,519 props for later on. So he's playing the Theoreman and 358 00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:37,599 they give him props saying it's saying, you know, you 359 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,359 did great. It was a whole lot like Clara Rockmore 360 00:17:41,759 --> 00:17:44,440 and he's like, oh thanks, Clara Rockmore was a big 361 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:49,279 inspiration and she's nobody knows who that is. You know, 362 00:17:49,319 --> 00:17:51,480 it's a random information. I had to go look it up. 363 00:17:51,519 --> 00:17:55,799 But she was actually a proficient theorem and player actually 364 00:17:56,079 --> 00:17:58,640 got asked to be married by the guy who invented 365 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,599 the theremon, which that instrument it has some rock and 366 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,119 roll history. It was a led Zeppelin instrument. We had 367 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,480 our podcast interrupted a bit ago when my kids started 368 00:18:07,519 --> 00:18:11,920 playing the Immigrant Song at full volume up steam and 369 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,559 I couldn't get too mad at him because at least 370 00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:16,240 they're listening to Zeppelin, that's right. But the rest of 371 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,039 the crowd hated it. It was a little slow, it 372 00:18:18,079 --> 00:18:20,319 was a little boring, and it needed to be pepped up. 373 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, reality is folding in on itself. Time travel 374 00:18:24,319 --> 00:18:28,440 has caused this disruption, and so there's a scene where 375 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,039 Jesus is at the Last Supper and he's plucked out 376 00:18:31,079 --> 00:18:33,839 of the Last Supper and Babe Ruth is up to 377 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,839 bad and he's plucked out of the baseball game. George 378 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,680 Washington is plucked out of crossing the Delaware and Kid Cuddy, 379 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,880 who I didn't know who he was before I watched 380 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,880 this movie, and so they're all switched around. You know, 381 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,759 George Washington's up to bad and you know, it kind 382 00:18:48,759 --> 00:18:49,680 of moves people around. 383 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,759 Speaker 1: And so the reason we find out later that all 384 00:18:51,799 --> 00:18:56,000 this craziness is happening is because the universe is falling 385 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,640 in on itself because Bill and Ted have not created 386 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:04,279 their So Kelly shows up to bring them back to 387 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:09,200 the future where they meet the Great Leader, and they 388 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,880 find out that not only do they not achieve world 389 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:17,160 peace and the unity of humanity if they don't perform 390 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,200 their song, reality will cease to exist if they don't 391 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,359 come up with their song by seven seventeen that. 392 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: Night, that night, like an hour from Yes, Yeah, from the. 393 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,279 Speaker 1: Seventy seventy minutes. 394 00:19:29,519 --> 00:19:32,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, curiously, you and I discussed there's 395 00:19:32,599 --> 00:19:35,200 a major plot hole, but who cares. It's a Bill 396 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,640 and Ted movie. If they don't solve this problem by 397 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,880 seven seventeen, reality no longer exists. Yes, they jump to 398 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,400 the future and they jump, they jump around. 399 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,519 Speaker 1: Well it's it is. They have Kid Cuddy do these 400 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,400 kind of brief explanations of the different theories of time 401 00:19:52,519 --> 00:19:55,920 and space, and this is definitely not a time space 402 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,599 continuum thing. They even mentioned at some point in the 403 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:03,960 movies their movie, there are infinite futures connected to infinite pasts, 404 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,559 and there is no one or other thing, which is 405 00:20:07,599 --> 00:20:10,799 how they kind of negotiate the whole process of this movie. 406 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,079 But I mean, even in the very first Bill and Ted, 407 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,359 they have to stay on time. Ted has to wind 408 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:23,000 his watch because somehow time is still going even though 409 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,039 you have a time machine. I don't I don't know 410 00:20:25,079 --> 00:20:27,200 how it makes sense. I'm not going to try to 411 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,160 explain it. But I think the idea is things are 412 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,240 proceeding to a certain point, whether you're in the past 413 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,680 or in the future, because we have characters from the 414 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,519 past and characters to them from the future who will 415 00:20:39,559 --> 00:20:42,720 all cease to exist if they do not perform the song, 416 00:20:43,039 --> 00:20:45,960 which gives it a good deal more weight. But then 417 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,839 they discover not only that, but their wives are going 418 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:54,079 to leave them, yes, which to them seems almost more heavy. 419 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 2: Yes. Yes. Oh, and also the great Leader from the 420 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,440 future decides that they're death may actually be the fix 421 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,200 in reality, so she sends a robot after them to 422 00:21:05,279 --> 00:21:08,640 kill him. It's like the Terminator basically, I'll be back right. 423 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: Well, we mentioned in the last episode that Bill and 424 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,359 Ted's Boga's Journey came out the exact same weekend as 425 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,279 T two, and so how appropriate I mean I even 426 00:21:18,279 --> 00:21:20,880 mentioned it. Then robots from the future coming back to 427 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,400 kill somebody to change the outcome of the future. It 428 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,559 happens again. They have a robot who they send back 429 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,519 to terminate Bill and Ted because that may be the 430 00:21:32,519 --> 00:21:35,440 solution to the destruction of reality. 431 00:21:35,559 --> 00:21:37,559 Speaker 2: I know, we don't want to give everything away, Let's 432 00:21:37,559 --> 00:21:39,720 give people a chance to see this movie. But the 433 00:21:39,839 --> 00:21:44,079 Terminator develops a conscience. He's kind of like Pinocchio. Right 434 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,960 after failing to do what he's been asked to do 435 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,880 at a couple of junctures in the movie, he starts 436 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,680 feeling sad and telling everybody his name is actually Dennis. 437 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: Dennis Caleb McCoy is Caleb McCoy. Oh, it's so good. 438 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,000 I don't want to try to say anything that he said, 439 00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:03,920 but I'm just gotta say that guy is hilarious. 440 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,799 Speaker 2: It is so funny, and it's like the rest of 441 00:22:06,839 --> 00:22:09,599 the gang just tolerates him, right, all right, Let the 442 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,279 robot guy come with us, and. 443 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: He just he was very much like he's very much 444 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,319 the way that Death was in Bogus Journey, where like 445 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,480 he's this imposing figure at first, and then he just 446 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:25,759 kind of becomes this awkward along for the ride kind 447 00:22:25,759 --> 00:22:26,119 of guy. 448 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,839 Speaker 2: Yep, it was cool when you said let's rock because 449 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,519 it made me want to rock. You're going to just 450 00:22:35,759 --> 00:22:40,599 get to and you're going to earn the right to yep. 451 00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:43,359 And they nail that tone and then and then they 452 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,079 actually go back to Hell. 453 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: Yes, gets killed. This is my favorite part of the 454 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,839 movie is I mean, other than the than the dentists, 455 00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:56,839 the robot parts, but when Bill and Ted find THEA 456 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,640 and Billy in Hell and they're like, how are you doing? 457 00:23:01,079 --> 00:23:04,359 And they say, well, we're dead and we're in Hell, 458 00:23:05,759 --> 00:23:07,920 and then and then the Billet Tad go but how 459 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,880 are you doing and they're like, oh, yeah, good good, 460 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:11,400 We're good. 461 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. And so in Hell, Death has been demoted and 462 00:23:19,279 --> 00:23:20,960 so he's just kind of hanging out. He got in 463 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,759 trouble for letting people go up there instead they should 464 00:23:24,759 --> 00:23:27,480 be down here and yeah, and when they show up 465 00:23:27,519 --> 00:23:29,319 and knock on his door, you can tell there's some 466 00:23:29,319 --> 00:23:31,759 hard feelings that the way Wild Stallions ended. 467 00:23:32,039 --> 00:23:38,559 Speaker 1: Yes, it is a very eighties hairband scenario for Wild Stallions. 468 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,839 The band has broken up and there's some very hard 469 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,000 feelings after many years still associated with that event. Yes, 470 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,480 but my gosh, that's that is some hilarity and so 471 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,039 glad that William Sadler came back. He is probably my 472 00:23:55,319 --> 00:23:59,599 second favorite part of this movie. Does such an incredible job. 473 00:23:59,519 --> 00:24:04,279 Speaker 2: So fun and like I said, this is just pure 474 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,960 sweet fun, you know, but just showing up. There's a 475 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,440 lot of nostalgia and they reunite with Death, their buddy 476 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,640 from Bogus Journey, and it's like, I don't know, it's 477 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,799 like Scooby Doo or something. They just kind of pick 478 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,079 up friends along the way and they're solving these problems. 479 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,279 Speaker 1: They're moving on. So just to give you a full 480 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,759 picture of what's going on as Bill and Ted moved 481 00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:30,920 back and forth, or actually move into the future, talking 482 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,319 to their future selves about the song that they know 483 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,119 they must have written by now. They keep running into 484 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,119 trouble and the future selves are pretty hilarious along the 485 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:40,799 way as well. 486 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,799 Speaker 2: That's my favorite part of the movie when they jump 487 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,400 forward two years into the future, and they meet the 488 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,359 two year ahead us as. 489 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,839 Speaker 1: Yes, and the two year ahead. 490 00:24:51,599 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 2: Us as are like, why don't you write the song 491 00:24:53,519 --> 00:24:56,720 yourself and quit trying to steal it from us? Ted 492 00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:00,359 to his older self, Ted, he's like, you're a head. 493 00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:06,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, that it cracked me up. It is good stuff. 494 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,599 They run into themselves in four different futures. Two years ahead, 495 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,680 five years ahead, Yes, ten years ahead, and then it 496 00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:18,359 looks like about forty years ahead yeah, when they're in 497 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,400 the old folks home. 498 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,759 Speaker 2: So two years ahead was funny, five years ahead was hilarious. 499 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,240 They go to meet these guys and they appear to 500 00:25:26,279 --> 00:25:30,160 be very successful rock stars with British accents, and they 501 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,160 chase them around this house, this mansion and turns out 502 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,839 to be Dave Grohl's house flash back to our Nirvana episode. 503 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: By the way, never Mind was released two months after 504 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,839 Bogus Journey came out. Oh wow. 505 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: Then and then they go to San Dimas Prison two 506 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,079 thousand and thirty. So they're all puffed up in jail. 507 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:55,279 They have huge muscles and it's it's almost ridiculous. It's 508 00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:59,559 you know, it's check e cheese, like, uh, you know. 509 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,039 Speaker 1: It's absurd. It looks good, but it looks it's. 510 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 2: Absurd, but yeah, but it does. But so they have 511 00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:07,079 these tattoos and I paused it and I actually read 512 00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:08,319 the tattoos on their body. 513 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: Uh huh. 514 00:26:09,279 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 2: So some of their tattoos say one says excellent. They 515 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,359 both have wild stallions. One has Heinous written on them, 516 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,359 and then Keanu Reeves on his stomach has Elizabeth and 517 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,079 Billy written on his stomach. 518 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: That's awesome. So while they're going through the future to 519 00:26:27,759 --> 00:26:30,400 try to find the song that they're supposed to write, 520 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,519 their daughters in an attempt to help them, are going 521 00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:37,880 to the past, gathering musicians of the past to have 522 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,599 the greatest band in history. 523 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the music. 524 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:46,799 Speaker 1: Are Jimmy Hendrix, They acquire Louis Armstrong, they acquire Wolfgang 525 00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:52,000 Mozart Amadeis Mozart. Then they do this weird thing where 526 00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:55,680 they get Lynn Lung, who is a mythical figure who's 527 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,519 said to have invented music from back in ancient China. 528 00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:03,799 And then they go back to like eleven thousand BCE 529 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,880 to get some cave woman named Crumb who is supposed 530 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,359 to be the best drummer of all time. That one 531 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,839 was a bit of a stretch for me. I don't 532 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,720 really know why they had to do that. I don't 533 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,839 know how you're going to know about a drummer from 534 00:27:17,079 --> 00:27:21,279 prehistoric times, given no writing existed. But whatever, you know, 535 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,440 that's the point of the movie is, you don't have 536 00:27:23,519 --> 00:27:25,880 to explain it, right, That's what Bill and Dad is 537 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,680 really all about. You go and try to explain Hell 538 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,440 based on Bogus Journey, and you're going to be floundering. 539 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,759 It's the same idea, right. 540 00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:36,279 Speaker 2: The girl who plays grum the cave woman, who's the 541 00:27:36,279 --> 00:27:39,480 best drummer in history. Yeah, played by Patty Anne Miller, 542 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,759 who's the real life drummer for Beyonce and Cela Green. 543 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,599 Speaker 1: Oh nice. Well, yeah, that makes it a little bit better. 544 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,759 I think I'd never heard of ling Ln before, so 545 00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:49,519 I get a little bit of education out of it. 546 00:27:49,599 --> 00:27:53,799 But certainly to me, the choice of you know, one 547 00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:56,440 of the greatest jazz musicians of all times, the guy 548 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:01,319 who redefined rock and roll guitar and Mozart, who is 549 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:06,039 arguably the best composer of all time, all solid choices, 550 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,839 and when you have that scene where Jimmy Hendrix is 551 00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:13,960 playing out in the street while Mozart is playing on 552 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,519 the harpsichord up in the sitting room and Jimmy Hendrix 553 00:28:17,599 --> 00:28:31,200 is matching him note for note. I thought it was 554 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,039 a throwback to that song that you love from Excellent 555 00:28:35,079 --> 00:28:38,839 Adventure Come Play with Me, where Nuno Benningcourt is playing 556 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,160 a classical style on the electric guitar. 557 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that that scene gave me chills. I haven't heard 558 00:28:44,519 --> 00:28:46,799 great electric guitar like that in a while, and that 559 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,559 was really cool. 560 00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:52,519 Speaker 1: Yep. So once, once they are once they're doing that. 561 00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:56,480 So when Mozart comes out, his first line is, hey, 562 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:01,079 you see the guides this out, which literally trans who 563 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:06,160 is the horniest sow here, but apparently in German translates 564 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,359 to who is the coolest bastard here? 565 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, zimm he's obviously. 566 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,599 Speaker 1: It's nice to see Mozart being obviously impressed with Jimmy Hendrix. 567 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,920 And so they gather up the band. They ultimately meet 568 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,279 up in Hell, and then we reached the end of 569 00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:26,240 the movie, and I won't tell you what happens, But. 570 00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: The only thing I was going to add is I 571 00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:29,720 believe that the demons that they meet in Hell the 572 00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:33,119 nice demons, Yes, are Ed Solomon and Chris Matheson. 573 00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:34,759 Speaker 1: I am sure of it. I knew that they were 574 00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:36,440 going to be a cameo in there, and when those 575 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,519 guys popped up, I was like, Oh, there they are. 576 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,759 I know it is them. I haven't looked to verify, 577 00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:43,359 but it's got to be. It's got to be them. Okay, 578 00:29:43,559 --> 00:29:45,319 that's good. That's a great part too. 579 00:29:46,319 --> 00:29:49,559 Speaker 2: And I did want to mention this that there is 580 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,319 just a little tidbit, little East egg we talked about 581 00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:53,920 the East Triggs. I got a couple of East t 582 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:54,400 eggs for you. 583 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:55,039 Speaker 1: Yeah. 584 00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:57,599 Speaker 2: So at the scene when the Great Leader says, you 585 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,359 have everything you need to go make the song, Go 586 00:29:59,519 --> 00:30:01,880 make the song. And when they walk up, there's a 587 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,440 there's a bunch of instruments, including the two guitars that 588 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,839 they got at the end of Excellent Adventure, ready for 589 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,440 them inside the display. 590 00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:12,839 Speaker 1: Case from Rufus. Yeah, from Rufus. 591 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,359 Speaker 2: And there is a battleship game on the shelf in 592 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,960 Death's apartment. And if you'll recall, Bill and Ted beat 593 00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:26,359 Death in a game of battleship during Bogus Journey, I've 594 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:32,119 sunk my beast ship Ellent. Yeah. 595 00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:37,599 Speaker 1: So this is Alex Winner's first like non cameo kind 596 00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:42,079 of appearance since Freaked in nineteen ninety three. He has 597 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,799 been a director and producer since that time, and so 598 00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:50,279 to prepare for this role, he actually took acting lessons. 599 00:30:50,279 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: Again, well, good for him. He did a great job. 600 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,240 I have no complaints at all. Awesome job. 601 00:30:57,119 --> 00:30:59,599 Speaker 1: Well, and so we might as well talk about it here. 602 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,920 There are there are two complaints that I have with 603 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,160 this movie, okay. First is that the beginning drags and 604 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,079 unnecessarily so I think they could have done that better. Okay. 605 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,599 Second complaint that I have in this, with all due 606 00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:19,599 respect to the actor and the star power of Keanu Reeves, 607 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,119 he didn't smile. It wasn't I mean he was. He 608 00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:28,519 was the less of of the two Bill and Ted, 609 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,000 of the of the Bill and Ted pair. He has 610 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,759 he has this awkward moment where he's like, when they 611 00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:37,720 suddenly realized that really reality is going to end, He's 612 00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:39,039 got this moment where he's like. 613 00:31:39,799 --> 00:31:44,319 Speaker 2: Well, save reality as we know it, uniting humanity across 614 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,640 all time. 615 00:31:48,559 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry what so that that moment? I'm just like, uh, Keano, 616 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:05,759 what are you doing to me? 617 00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:06,279 Speaker 2: Man o? 618 00:32:06,519 --> 00:32:10,079 Speaker 1: Man So we talked last We talked about last episode 619 00:32:10,279 --> 00:32:14,400 how they used to just tell him more labrador, right right, right, 620 00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:18,240 fun and happy and goofy. In this movie, we have 621 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,559 our good old labrador and Bill. He's an older labrador, 622 00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:27,200 but he's still a labrador. Yes, somehow it's turned into 623 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,720 a constipated, fascet hound. 624 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 2: I think you're being a little bit hard on him, 625 00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:37,279 but I do agree with you, guys. You and I 626 00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:40,200 talked off air. I don't think he smiled like the 627 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,000 entire movie. 628 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, there is no labrador. 629 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: So in Bill and Ted's excellent adventure, Bill actually gets 630 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,799 mad at Ted for talking about missing his dad getting 631 00:32:51,799 --> 00:32:54,519 it on in his bedroom. Yeah, he finally is like, 632 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,200 shut up, Ted, and he looks stunted for a second, 633 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,279 and then he breaks into this humongous labrador smile. We 634 00:33:04,319 --> 00:33:07,759 don't see that labrador smile the entire movie, right, But 635 00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:10,599 he does have some funny moments. I'm not going to 636 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,079 trash him. I thought that he did the the pissed 637 00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:15,200 off ted pretty well. 638 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: You know he was he Here's what I'll say about this. 639 00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:24,000 For the spot that they are in life, it may 640 00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:26,160 not be too far off. I mean, I've known plenty 641 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,480 of people who were happy, go lucky people when they 642 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,599 were in high school who have turned into kind of jaded, 643 00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:37,319 upset folks. And to start the movie off, Bill and 644 00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:43,559 Ted are struggling. They're playing to groups of almost nobody, 645 00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:49,240 and Ted ultimately is the one that said, Hey, I 646 00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:50,839 went to go see how much they would give me 647 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,160 for my guitar at the at the music trade, he 648 00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:56,599 was ready to be done. He felt like he had 649 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,599 given up, he had lost hope. And I said, movie, 650 00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:04,319 you know, this midlife crisis idea is kind of a push. 651 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,199 I mean, it's kind of the underlying theme. But I 652 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,400 don't know, maybe it's just too much, or maybe it 653 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,280 needed to be there. Maybe it's right that they that 654 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,360 he'd be sad. I didn't think it was awful, Like 655 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,639 I wasn't painful for me to watch him as an actor. 656 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,440 I just thought, man, just a hint more of the 657 00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:24,760 labrador that he used to be at some point in 658 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,559 the movie would have been good. I agree, But to 659 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,719 touch on something that kind of moved me as I 660 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,519 watched this, especially the second time I watched it. When 661 00:34:35,519 --> 00:34:40,679 you think about we as grown men who have kids 662 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,320 who have looking at where we are in life, and 663 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,519 we think of all of the things that we failed 664 00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:50,760 to accomplish, that we thought that we would. We have 665 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,239 this beautiful moment in the movie. And I don't want 666 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,599 to give too much away, but you look at your kids, 667 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,800 who maybe you saw making all the same stupid mistakes 668 00:35:02,159 --> 00:35:06,800 that you did, and then suddenly you realize that they're 669 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,800 wonderfully brilliant, unique people who may just end up saving 670 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,079 the world. Yeah, and that's a great That is a 671 00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:19,199 great portion of this movie that we can dwell on 672 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,320 all the things that we haven't accomplished and miss out 673 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:24,880 on what we happened. 674 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 3: Oh but you are right away. 675 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great, man, that's great. Make me cry at 676 00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:37,840 the end of this thing. 677 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it again. I'm gonna tear up. I'm 678 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,800 gonna tear up every time I see that point of 679 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,400 the movie again. Oh and it's interesting that you have 680 00:35:46,519 --> 00:35:50,559 that moment with Ted's dad as well. Yeah. Ted's dad 681 00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:53,320 starts out at the movie saying, you never time traveled, 682 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,679 you never went to Hell. You're still just a couple 683 00:35:56,679 --> 00:36:00,559 of losers, and now your daughters are losers too, And 684 00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:05,079 then spoiler alert, they meet up with him again in Hell. 685 00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:09,440 He realizes he's wrong. He's like, and you know that 686 00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:11,920 means that you did time travel you did go to 687 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,639 hell and I owe you an apology. I'm sorry. You 688 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,719 get this great moment where Ted and Captain Logan hug 689 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:27,039 and he's like thanks Dad, and then Bill goes, yeah, thanks, 690 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,920 after Logan goes, I wasn't talking to you, Bill. 691 00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. I really enjoyed the characters that they picked up 692 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,360 along the way in this movie. They picked you know, 693 00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:44,760 you've got Captain Logan, like you said, they pick up 694 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,159 Dennis Caleb McCoy, the Robot Terminator, they get Death, They've 695 00:36:49,199 --> 00:36:53,679 got Kelly Rufus's daughter, They've got Billy and THEA, plus 696 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,400 you get all the musicians. It's it's really a lot. 697 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: Of fun before we go, and I don't mention it 698 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,480 because we have to mention at anytime there's an availability 699 00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:05,639 to mention it. On those closing credits where you see 700 00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:08,800 all the people dancing, there's a cameo appearance by the 701 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,039 One the Only mister Weird Al Yankovic. 702 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,159 Speaker 2: Oh are you serious? 703 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: Yes? 704 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 2: Is he gonna make every podcast we ever do? 705 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: I hope? So we got to have him up at 706 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,880 every single time. And Happy birthday to Keanu Reeves. We're 707 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,360 actually recording on his birthday. 708 00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:26,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's fifty seven. 709 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,559 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he's had facial hair for about the 710 00:37:29,679 --> 00:37:32,800 last twenty five years and was weird to see him 711 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,719 without facial hair. 712 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,559 Speaker 2: It was it's like watching Sean Connery and Never Say 713 00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:37,119 Never Again. 714 00:37:38,119 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 1: I can't remember what exactly like that. Actually, yeah, wow, 715 00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:43,400 same age, right, Yeah. 716 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,599 Speaker 2: Well he was fifty two and never Say Never Again. 717 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So Keanu Reeves is five years older 718 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,920 than Sean Connery when he came back after twelve years 719 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,039 to finally play James Bond again. 720 00:37:56,159 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's insane. Hey, throw forward to our 721 00:38:02,039 --> 00:38:05,800 upcoming episode James Bond of the Sixties versus James Bond 722 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,239 of the seventies meet in the James Bond Movie of 723 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:08,719 the eighties. 724 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I think it's time we can move into final judgment. 725 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,559 Speaker 2: Okay, can we spit it out first? 726 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:16,079 Speaker 1: Yeah? 727 00:38:16,159 --> 00:38:17,559 Speaker 2: Go, I'm dying to talk about it. 728 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: Go for it. 729 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,639 Speaker 2: So this is the first movie released after COVID nineteen. 730 00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:26,000 We have not had any movies in movie theaters since 731 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,199 March of twenty twenty, and I'm so glad it's this one. 732 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:35,400 It's funny, it's interesting, it's sweet, it's family, it's nostalgic, 733 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,280 I enjoyed it. I watched it three times and it 734 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,719 wasn't a chore. I had so much fun. I love 735 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,639 the characters. Bill and Ted are still sweet. Although we 736 00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:46,239 want a little more labidor, they were still fun and 737 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,920 funny characters. Their daughters were pretty good. I didn't fall 738 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,239 in love with them, but you know good. I love Death, 739 00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:55,679 I loved Dennis Caleb McCoy. I thought Kelly as Rufus's 740 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,639 daughter was funny, and Captain Logan was great. Characters were funny, 741 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,599 the plot was good. It's not Oscar winning, but I 742 00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:03,599 had a great time and that's all I can ask for, 743 00:39:03,639 --> 00:39:06,039 and I'm super excited to share it with my family. 744 00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:07,119 And I had a great time. 745 00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:13,199 Speaker 1: D Okay. So I came into this movie with low expectations, 746 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,000 and we throw some stuff out there on Facebook and 747 00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:18,480 we had one person who left a comment referring to 748 00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:20,880 it as garbage, and I've seen another couple of negative 749 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:25,119 comments since then. So my expectations were pretty low coming 750 00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:28,079 into it. And as we've said a few times now, 751 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,440 at the beginning, I was like, oo, okay, this is 752 00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:33,639 They're going to have to pick this up a little bit. 753 00:39:33,679 --> 00:39:36,679 But they did it. They picked it up. They brought 754 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,519 it along. Well. Things start clicking along at about fifteen 755 00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:42,960 to twenty minutes in, which is a great time to 756 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,920 really get the action rolling in a movie. And then 757 00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:48,239 once I was done with it, I started thinking about 758 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,559 it in relationship to Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure and 759 00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:55,079 Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey. Those are not Oscar winning movies. 760 00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:59,599 Those are movies that are simple fun. They don't you 761 00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:03,480 don't have to think, you don't have to, you know, 762 00:40:03,679 --> 00:40:06,239 fix all of the plot holes, because there's many in 763 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:11,360 all three of these movies. This is really about simple fun. 764 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,519 If you just think back like I when I was 765 00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:16,920 watching them in the future, I was just like, wow, okay, 766 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,320 obvious screen screen pretty. I mean, let me say this, 767 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:26,440 the special effects were worse than Jurassic Park, which was 768 00:40:26,599 --> 00:40:29,119 made back in the nineties, but I think they might 769 00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:36,320 have been a little bit better than Justice League. They 770 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:42,119 are the computer graphics are apparent, right, but let's put 771 00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:44,719 that aside. Think about what the people were wearing at 772 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,800 the beginning of Bogus Journey. It looked like they were 773 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,440 all in foam that somebody had cut out at the 774 00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:53,039 high school play. I mean, it was it was terrible. Costuming, 775 00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:57,239 it was ridiculous, and so don't. I mean, this movie 776 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,480 had a budget of twenty five million dollars. Don't expect 777 00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:04,920 Star Wars. Don't expect that kind of amazing movie. If 778 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,679 you come in thinking I'm going to have a fun 779 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,760 time with my kids watching a movie that I don't 780 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,079 have to worry about what they're going to see, You're 781 00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:15,840 going to be satisfied in this movie. I enjoyed it. 782 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,280 I will watch it again with the whole family. And 783 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,599 when I did watch it, I watched it with my 784 00:41:21,639 --> 00:41:24,360 thirteen year old who was the only one that watched 785 00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:27,079 Excellent Adventure with me a couple of years ago before 786 00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:30,119 we ever knew that this movie was coming out, and 787 00:41:30,519 --> 00:41:33,760 he's never seen Bogus Journey and he enjoyed the movie 788 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,599 as well. So is it worth the watch? Absolutely gonna 789 00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:38,199 win an oscar. 790 00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:38,639 Speaker 2: No. 791 00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: Am I going to rewatch it, probably multiple times like 792 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,719 I have with the other movies. You bet it is good, clean, 793 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,000 late eighties, early nineties style, fun, awesome. 794 00:41:50,119 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 2: We want to hear what you think. Did you guys 795 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,800 love it? Hopefully you didn't hate it? But shoot us 796 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,599 the reviews? Hit us up on Facebook, Hit us up 797 00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:01,079 on Twitter, send us in the email, let us know 798 00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:01,519 what you think. 799 00:42:01,559 --> 00:42:04,679 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and we truly appreciate you guys tuning in. We're 800 00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:08,639 getting so much positive feedback. Speaking of kids, we had 801 00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:11,400 so we get a comment from James Buckley, and I'll 802 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,440 paraphrase a little bit here, but he says, I cannot 803 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,920 emphasize how much I love your podcast enough. I was 804 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,880 born in the seventies, and the eighties and the nineties 805 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,840 were my high school and college years. I have been 806 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,320 enjoying reliving these moments, and my daughter is discovering all 807 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,760 these new things with me. We go home and watch 808 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,199 the movies that you guys talk about, and it is 809 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,400 a wonderful bonding experience. And I was just like, Wow, 810 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,760 that's I mean, that's exactly what we needed. And this 811 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,719 is the perfect movie to talk about it because it's 812 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,280 about the relationship between parents and children and how even 813 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,880 though we're different, we can we can still enjoy things together. 814 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:49,599 That's awesome. 815 00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:52,199 Speaker 2: Thank you James for listening. And shout out to you 816 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,079 and your daughter. We don't know her name, but hey, 817 00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:58,679 James's daughter. Hey, I want to give a quick shout 818 00:42:58,679 --> 00:43:01,039 out to a good friend of mine. You know, him 819 00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:05,079 as well, but he and I are close friends. Tristan Martin, 820 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,320 we have if you ever seen The Talking Dead, it's 821 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,559 a TV show that they sit around and discuss the 822 00:43:11,639 --> 00:43:14,800 episode right after the episode airs. So every time we 823 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,320 have a podcast drop, Tristan listens and then calls me 824 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,079 and gives me feedback and we discuss the way through it. 825 00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:23,320 So just really good to have a friend who is 826 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,199 that interested in what I'm doing and takes the time 827 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,199 to listen and takes the time to give me feedback, 828 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,559 and just really appreciate him. He's a good, good friend 829 00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:33,679 of mine. Thank you, Tristan, appreciate you give. 830 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: I'll give that same shout out for Arlen Bullard. We've 831 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,039 mentioned both of them in podcast past, but it really 832 00:43:39,079 --> 00:43:40,920 means a lot to have a friend that will listen 833 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,079 to your show and then talk to you about everything 834 00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:46,039 that you did right and everything that you did wrong. Yep, 835 00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:49,239 after they've listened through and then keep on listening. It's 836 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,719 it's great, but we thank you all. We hope you 837 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,320 keep listening. We've got lots of fun stuff planned for 838 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,000 the future, and for now we will sign off, but 839 00:43:58,119 --> 00:44:00,840 please let us know how you feel about out face 840 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,519 The Music, and please tell your friends about us. If 841 00:44:04,519 --> 00:44:07,920 you're enjoying us, please let other people know, because the 842 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,000 bigger the family, the better we could share. 843 00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 2: Use a five star review on Apple podcasts if you 844 00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:15,719 are so inclined. Hey, one more thing before we go, 845 00:44:16,039 --> 00:44:17,800 all right, so do you give in your opinion on 846 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,599 Face to Music. We both loved Excellent Adventure. Yes, Fogus 847 00:44:21,639 --> 00:44:24,639 Journeys somewhere in there as well. Let's rank these one, two, three? 848 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: Where are you okay? This is interesting because when we 849 00:44:28,519 --> 00:44:31,639 released the episode about Bogus Journey and Excellent Adventure, I 850 00:44:31,639 --> 00:44:33,159 thought everybody was going to be on the same page 851 00:44:33,199 --> 00:44:36,280 with us. Excellent Adventure is obviously the best, and Bogus 852 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,880 Journey is good, but it finish the second. We have 853 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,079 had a substantial response of people who said Bogus Journey 854 00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:47,159 is better and I blowed the idea. I mean, they 855 00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:49,599 talk about how they went in a completely different direction 856 00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:53,280 than before, they were more literary. It was. It was 857 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,840 an amazing piece of work. So where does this fall 858 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,840 for me? I love all three movies, they're all They're 859 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,239 all wonderful. I actually am gonna have to say I 860 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,360 like this movie better than I liked Bogus Journey. Excellent 861 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,280 Adventure will always be number one for me. It's got 862 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,960 just too special a place in my heart. Bogus Journey 863 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,119 when I rewatched it, I enjoyed it, but it didn't 864 00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:18,920 have that same nostalgia for me. Watching this one, I 865 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,119 felt like they tied those two movies together very well, 866 00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:24,880 and so this will be one that I rewatch more 867 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,679 than I watch Bogus Journey. So it's got to be 868 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,119 Excellent Adventure number one. Face the Music number two, Bogus 869 00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:31,880 Journey number three. What are your thoughts? 870 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 2: Okay, nothing will dethrone excellent Adventure. I don't think ever 871 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,679 right that that's the best Bill and Ted movie. That 872 00:45:40,119 --> 00:45:43,280 one is so much fun, So that's obviously number one 873 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,599 for me. I'm going with Face the Music number two. 874 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,920 It edges out Bogus Journey. It's not a big discrepancy, 875 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,039 but I just had a little bit more fun watching 876 00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:55,199 Face the Music. So I would say it's one, three, 877 00:45:55,639 --> 00:45:57,159 two and three and two are close. 878 00:45:57,519 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that that's. 879 00:45:58,639 --> 00:46:01,280 Speaker 2: Really what you That's the best you could have hoped 880 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,159 for with number three. Anyway, all right, I love to 881 00:46:03,159 --> 00:46:04,119 hear your feedback on that. 882 00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us what you think all right, Jason d 883 00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:09,599 been fun. Join us next week. 884 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 2: For James Bond. Come join us for our Sean Connery 885 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,199 versus Roger Moore discussion where we talked about octopusy and 886 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,079 never say never again in the eighties. 887 00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:25,639 Speaker 1: Looking forward to that and in the meantime, be excellent 888 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:26,199 to each other. 889 00:46:26,599 --> 00:46:27,519 Speaker 2: Party on dudes. 890 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 1: All music, images and movie clips are used for the 891 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,719 purposes of commentary and education in conjunction with the fair 892 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,679 Use agreement under the US copyright law.