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<v Speaker 1>Eric Weddle on a Tuesday, you went happy Tuesday, man,

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Great?

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<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 3>Great to be on football seasons officially over, So now

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<v Speaker 3>I can turn the page, you know, as the retired

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<v Speaker 3>has been. My calendar year goes off to the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm ready to move forward and get onto the

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<v Speaker 3>next season. We are all ready to be champions. That

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<v Speaker 3>goes for the utes, it goes for the RB Broncos,

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<v Speaker 3>it goes for the future NFL Super Bowl winner.

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<v Speaker 1>How you liking the coaching thing now that you've been,

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<v Speaker 1>Now you've got a little bit of a sample size,

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<v Speaker 1>not just a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>How you liking the gig?

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<v Speaker 3>It's good. It's good and able to keep myself challenged

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<v Speaker 3>per se, be still be around the game, still be

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<v Speaker 3>around the kids. Able to get back and teach teach

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<v Speaker 3>young young men to be real men in the in

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<v Speaker 3>the real world. And that's something I try to pride

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<v Speaker 3>myself on them instilling those traits and routines and what

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<v Speaker 3>that looks like. So it's a daily, a daily challenge

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<v Speaker 3>for myself to give back to these kids, and I

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it what you expected? What are the things about coaching?

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<v Speaker 1>Football that have kind of caught you a little bit off.

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<v Speaker 3>Card, Well, I appreciate coach as much more as a

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<v Speaker 3>coach than I did as a player's first and foremost man.

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<v Speaker 3>The high school, there's so much that goes on behind

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<v Speaker 3>the scenes. Like you think of college coaches and NFL,

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<v Speaker 3>and they do a lot, don't get me wrong, but

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<v Speaker 3>nothing compares to being a head high school coach. And

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<v Speaker 3>you're the trainer, you're the strength coach, you're the academic advisor,

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<v Speaker 3>you're the psychiatrist, you're the everything in between. And so

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot goes on outside of the actual football

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<v Speaker 3>x's and o's, and so I didn't realize how much

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<v Speaker 3>that that had been doing. But I do like having

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<v Speaker 3>an impact on them outside of football because most of

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<v Speaker 3>my kids are just going to go off to college

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<v Speaker 3>or go in the rural world, and and I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to prepare him for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me about your boy, what kind of player is he?

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<v Speaker 1>And is there a chance we could see him playing

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<v Speaker 1>college football here in Salt Lake City.

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<v Speaker 3>Gosh, he's he's he's got a chance to be a

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<v Speaker 3>good one. You know. He played played this year as

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<v Speaker 3>a freshman and started at safety all season and really

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<v Speaker 3>worked hard to give him a chance over the spring

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<v Speaker 3>in summer of last year, to give him a chance

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<v Speaker 3>to compete, and he did it, took it and ran

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<v Speaker 3>with it. And then the second half of the year

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<v Speaker 3>started a quarterback for us and really took us to

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<v Speaker 3>the next level and then took that spot. And now

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<v Speaker 3>it's exciting to know where we are as a program

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<v Speaker 3>with the players and knowing we have a quarterback for

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<v Speaker 3>the next three years and build around that. And uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I I tell people he's got a chance

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<v Speaker 3>to be a program builder, to take a program the

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<v Speaker 3>next to New heights, because he has that in him.

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<v Speaker 3>He has a factor. So I hope, I hope that,

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<v Speaker 3>uh he'll be able to play college football. He has

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<v Speaker 3>all offty goals. Where that will be, I don't know him,

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<v Speaker 3>just along for the ride and help them guide him

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<v Speaker 3>along the way, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>I have a I have a son who's about to

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<v Speaker 1>turn twenty three, and he has moved on uh and

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<v Speaker 1>now is making his way through the world in the

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<v Speaker 1>in in in the area of actually working full time

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<v Speaker 1>after he finished school. He's living in New York and

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<v Speaker 1>he's working full time and you know, it's funny, Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>Like when they're born, as their parent, you feel like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to be this, They're going to be that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to send them this direction.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an influence and then all you want to do

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<v Speaker 1>is see them smile. You just want to see them happy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, it's so, so, what's the process been like

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<v Speaker 1>watching this young man grow up and now seeing him

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<v Speaker 1>becoming this prospect?

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<v Speaker 2>And how do you balance that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you it's a tree, You're in a tricky spot,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a tricky dance.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a coach, but you're his dad, Like, how do

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<v Speaker 2>you balance that?

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<v Speaker 3>It's not easy, if I'm being honest, Last year was

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<v Speaker 3>hard at times, never being able to show affirmation to

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<v Speaker 3>your son because of the optics and people being negative

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<v Speaker 3>towards it. So it was hard at times, not not

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<v Speaker 3>gonna lie of coaching him harder than anybody else, being

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<v Speaker 3>so hard on him, and then not being able to

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<v Speaker 3>pat him on the butt when he does good because

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't say I was worried about it, but just

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<v Speaker 3>trying not to add extra pressure on him, which he

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<v Speaker 3>already has the world on his shoulders. And it's been

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<v Speaker 3>like that since since he was a little kid because

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<v Speaker 3>of whose dad was. So he's he's mentally tough for it,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's he can handle it. I just wish she

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have to and at this point of his life,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's running with it, and you know, it's it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a tough dynamic and and you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>coach him and love him as much as I do

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<v Speaker 3>every other kid. So I don't lose sleep at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the night of what people think or say

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<v Speaker 3>about him. He's going to get what he gets on

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<v Speaker 3>what he does on the field and off and how

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<v Speaker 3>he treats people, and how he leads and how he works.

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<v Speaker 3>And at the end of the day, he when he's

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<v Speaker 3>the hardest worker, he performs at a high level than

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<v Speaker 3>everybody else. And that's what he's going to be judged on,

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<v Speaker 3>not by who his coaches.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Well said one more thing here, because I am

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely curious. We talk often and we've had you on

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about this quite a bit. With the changing

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<v Speaker 1>landscape of college football and how NIL has changed recruiting,

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<v Speaker 1>how it's changed the game, how it's changed the way

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<v Speaker 1>you have to operate, how much of that Eric, if

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<v Speaker 1>any at all has spilled over into your day to

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<v Speaker 1>day with high school stuff, well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the dynamics have definitely changed, and being a high

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<v Speaker 3>school coach, I feel like high school kids are getting

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<v Speaker 3>the short end of the stick on a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>these cases, whether it's recruiting, whether it's transfer, portal, whether

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<v Speaker 3>it's JC rule, if it sticks, how that's going to look.

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<v Speaker 3>The bottom line when it comes back to it, is

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<v Speaker 3>the high school kids are getting the short end of

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<v Speaker 3>it all where I think they should get more opportunities.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand why we're enabling kids that weren't good

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<v Speaker 3>enough out of high school giving them more opportunities to

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<v Speaker 3>take scholarship or take chances away from high school kids

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<v Speaker 3>that deserve it. And a portal kid, you know, most programs,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got to believe that they still build and develop

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<v Speaker 3>and culture means something, right, You're not trying to revamp

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<v Speaker 3>your whole entire roster every year with transfer kids that

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<v Speaker 3>need a plug and play. Hopefully you still rely on

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<v Speaker 3>those high school kids to build your roster. But I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, man, I just think that I'd rather have

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<v Speaker 3>a kid that I've been building and developing over the

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<v Speaker 3>last year or two than a kid that is leaving

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<v Speaker 3>a program for reasons that I may not agree with.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether it's money, whether it's more opportunities, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I'd rather pour into the kids that

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<v Speaker 3>I have.

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<v Speaker 2>Do your do your kids? Do your you know the

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<v Speaker 2>kids you coach?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they have any frame of reference for just how

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<v Speaker 1>good you were? Or do you have to send them

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<v Speaker 1>to YouTube and say read my article.

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<v Speaker 3>I try not to bring up my playing days because

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<v Speaker 3>most of them could care less. And you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of my kids play. I think, I think in

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<v Speaker 3>the grand scheme of things, a lot of these kids

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<v Speaker 3>are not. They don't really love love, love the game

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<v Speaker 3>like we love the game growing up, and they'd rather

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<v Speaker 3>be doing a lot of this stuff. So I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>trying to keep them in the program more or less

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<v Speaker 3>than explaining what really it takes to get to the

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<v Speaker 3>next level.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair enough, all right, moving over now to the super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I wanted to ask you right out of

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<v Speaker 1>the gates when I saw you on the rundown today.

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<v Speaker 2>How does your life change when you win that game?

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<v Speaker 3>Shoot? For me, it didn't change anything really, Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>my my personal life didn't didn't change at all. Who

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<v Speaker 3>talked to me, who doesn't talk to me. The only

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<v Speaker 3>thing really that change is on my resume, a super

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl cham and uh you know that carries weight when

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<v Speaker 3>you're when you're thinking of uh, you know, accolades and

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<v Speaker 3>conversations of who's better and this and that. But at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the day, it's I am the same

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<v Speaker 3>guy and just trying to be better each day and

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<v Speaker 3>help out along the way. But you become you're you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you're in the fraternity. I'm not trying to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>lighten it. I'm I'm grateful that I was able to

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<v Speaker 3>be a part of that and have an impact on it.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the end of the day, it wasn't It's

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<v Speaker 3>not going to change who I am per se.

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<v Speaker 1>So when it comes to Jalen Hurts, I found the

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<v Speaker 1>narrative and conversation surrounding his play just a little hard

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<v Speaker 1>to understand, quite frankly, Eric, because it felt like the

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles had leaned in to this rushing attack because they

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<v Speaker 1>have a generational back at a great offensive line, and

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<v Speaker 1>when they were allowing Jalen to throw it all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place, a couple of years ago Super Bowl, he

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<v Speaker 1>was clear that Steve Spagnola was going to take away

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<v Speaker 1>he really answered a lot of questions your takeaways from

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<v Speaker 1>what was a very convincing Super Bowl win fifty nine

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<v Speaker 1>with Philly taking care of Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you know, I mentioned this the week's

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<v Speaker 3>prior you look at the you know, if you if

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<v Speaker 3>you ranked the top twenty players in that game, I

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<v Speaker 3>probably would say fifteen thirteen to fifteen or Eagles players.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you take a side, put aside everything else

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<v Speaker 3>from coaching to schematics to this, and that Philly had

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<v Speaker 3>the better team and the more talented roster at most

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<v Speaker 3>positions he could say outside of quarterback. And maybe you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Chris Jones is probably the top five, you know ranked

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<v Speaker 3>player in that game, maybe top three. So when you

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<v Speaker 3>see how the game unfolded, I said, it was either,

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<v Speaker 3>in my opinion, it was either going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>blowout victory for the Eagles or a close Chiefs win

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<v Speaker 3>with the help of the refs and coaching and everything

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<v Speaker 3>else in the middle, and it worked. Out, which I

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<v Speaker 3>had a huge smile on my face just seeing defense dominate,

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<v Speaker 3>having the line of scrimmage, the importance and emphasis on

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<v Speaker 3>the bigs, and really controlling the line of scrimmage, getting

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<v Speaker 3>after the quarterback was really the difference in that game.

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<v Speaker 3>And playing great defense in physical tackling the physical nature

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<v Speaker 3>of what football is and what it needs to be

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<v Speaker 3>and not turning it into flag football. That's why the

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<v Speaker 1>Was there something because prior to Sunday, e Ed Mahomes

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<v Speaker 2>Was there something?

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<v Speaker 1>Was there something specific they did to confuse him or

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<v Speaker 1>was it just kind of as you outline the way

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think it's it's a combination of some things.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, as the great as Mames is, sometimes his

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<v Speaker 3>greatest traits can be why you struggle at times, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think Cam at times always trying to run around

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<v Speaker 3>and make things happen and extend the play hurt them

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<v Speaker 3>in this game because in this type of game, you

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<v Speaker 3>play calling has an impact on those decisions. But in

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<v Speaker 3>the weaknesses of the defense. And I bring that up

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<v Speaker 3>because I know it could be done, because the Rams

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<v Speaker 3>just you know, should have won that game. And it

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<v Speaker 3>was The reason why is because Stafford dropped back, got

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<v Speaker 3>the ball out and and killed that defense. And there

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<v Speaker 3>was no difference to what they were doing. They run

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<v Speaker 3>the same stuff, but when you hold onto the football

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<v Speaker 1>So a couple of angles here from the game. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with the Kansas City side of things. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it felt a little bit like the Tampa Bay Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl loss where they couldn't protect Mahomes. So they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to go about their business of making sure the

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<v Speaker 1>old line is dialed in. Maybe they have better health

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<v Speaker 1>at the wide receiver position right out of the gates

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<v Speaker 1>instead of having a wait and add pieces like new Hopkins.

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<v Speaker 1>But what are you expecting Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes bounce

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<v Speaker 1>back next year?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think it looks like?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, they're going to be a team that we reckon

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<v Speaker 3>with every single year because they got Patrick Mahomes, they

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<v Speaker 3>got Andy Reid, they still got one of the best

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<v Speaker 3>coordinators obviously on both sides with the Spagnola. So they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to reload. The reality is that they just wann't

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<v Speaker 3>a dominant team this year. They have deficiencies. They can't

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<v Speaker 3>run the football. Defensively, they're really young throughout the secondary

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<v Speaker 3>and in sidelinebacker. So how they need to reload that.

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<v Speaker 3>They got to figure out the offensive line. In my opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>with the Chiefs, You're always gonna have a chance with Mahomes,

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<v Speaker 3>but let's show up that offensive line that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the right tackle is just just a guy, not disrespecting hum,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's just a good he's a solid player. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>get elite tackles to protect Mahomes. That's that's what I

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<v Speaker 3>would do, and then and then figure out everyone else,

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<v Speaker 3>because if you can protect Mahomes, you'll always have a chance.

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<v Speaker 3>If not, you look, you saw what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And on the other side, you know, we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes at twenty nine and Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen's twenty six, you had in Saquan's twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight, like AJ's twenty seven, Devonte Smith's twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, it feels like Eric they have a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to maybe go on.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I'm never gonna say, like, we just saw how

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<v Speaker 1>hard it is to have a dynasty in pro football.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know when the next time a team is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a chance to win three straight, but it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like the future in Philly should be very right.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's how I'll put that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean they've been in the playoffs three years

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<v Speaker 3>in a row. They have an identity, they know who

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<v Speaker 3>they are. They run the football, they play great defense,

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<v Speaker 3>They're physical. I mean they had the biggest, most physical

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<v Speaker 3>old lines, and they've built their team through the draft

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<v Speaker 3>and through the interior old line the line, and look

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<v Speaker 3>at all the draft picks that play on that offensive

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<v Speaker 3>defensive line, which is really impressive. And then they've gone

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<v Speaker 3>outside to get an Aj Brown, to get a Saquon.

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<v Speaker 3>You add pieces here to be dynamic to fill your

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<v Speaker 3>roster in. But the identity of the team in the

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<v Speaker 3>organization is the interior offense and offensive defensive line. And

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<v Speaker 3>they hit a home run on Hurts in the second

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<v Speaker 3>round and kept the belief and to build around him

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<v Speaker 3>and not you know the negativity that surrounds Jalen Hurts.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, geez, all he does is win. He's a

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<v Speaker 3>great leader, all thinks about his teammates, never makes excuses.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, shoot, I'd play for that guy in a heartbeat,

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<v Speaker 3>and some of these other guys can't say the same.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, before I say you lose a little Utah football,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's really not a lot going on right now,

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<v Speaker 1>but of course you are Utah Football Royalty. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is the time of year, Eric, where media schloves like

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<v Speaker 1>us like to get into content of way too early

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<v Speaker 1>top twenty five rankings and twelve teams CFP projections and

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<v Speaker 1>you know what's crazy, man like people who do this

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<v Speaker 1>for a living like I don't. I have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what the Big twelve will look like next year. Tell

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<v Speaker 1>me who you pick to finish last, and they'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>win it, like Arizona State. But the way too early stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they're all leaning on the Utes again as the

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<v Speaker 1>favorite to get this done. What are you hoping to

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<v Speaker 1>see year two in the Big twelve to indicate that

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<v Speaker 1>last year was a bit of an aberration.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to cus be us, and that's discipline

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<v Speaker 3>team football in all three phases. I don't want to see.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to see not U tough football, and

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<v Speaker 3>that means undisciplined, that means penalties, it's it's not running

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<v Speaker 3>the football, it's not stopping and run, tackling like everything

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<v Speaker 3>that we are in our core. I want to see

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<v Speaker 3>Jay regardless of how I mean wins or losses. That's

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<v Speaker 3>just what I want to see because I felt like

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<v Speaker 3>we're getting away from that and I can be totally wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm not intimate in that sense, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's only what I saw, and what I saw last

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<v Speaker 3>year was not you tough football. So I want to

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<v Speaker 3>see us get back to who we are playing our

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<v Speaker 3>style of football, our brand of football. We got new

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<v Speaker 3>dynamics on offense with an offensive, new offensive coordinator, coach back,

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<v Speaker 3>and then bringing in these new guys and new players.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see what they got. I'm not I'm not over

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<v Speaker 3>zealous on anything until I see it, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>just my personality. I hope for the best, prepare for

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<v Speaker 3>the worst, and I'm not. I don't know what we

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<v Speaker 3>have until a quarter of the season in and then

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<v Speaker 3>we'll see what type of team we are. So I

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<v Speaker 3>know they're going to work hard. I know coach what's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna lead them. I know we're gonna have a great

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<v Speaker 3>defense to see what the offense is and can we

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<v Speaker 3>beat dynamic on the perimeter? Can we make can we

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<v Speaker 3>generate some big plays in the passing game not having

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<v Speaker 3>to be just twelve and twenty two personnel and hard

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<v Speaker 3>plash and shot plays. Can we just make a guy

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<v Speaker 3>miss right and go run for sixty yards like that's

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<v Speaker 3>what we've been missing. Can we get that? We'll see all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, my friend, Well, I appreciate the time. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're a busy guy. We'll set you loose and love

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<v Speaker 1>to get you back on soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you got any time, guys, Thanks for having me on,

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<v Speaker 3>all right.

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<v Speaker 1>The great Eric Weddle one of the best to ever

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<v Speaker 1>do it at the University of Utah, Super Bowl champ

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<v Speaker 1>with the with the Rams, and spend a number of

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<v Speaker 1>years in the NFL with the Chargers, the Ravens and

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<v Speaker 1>finishing up with the Rams. Always appreciate his time. He's

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<v Speaker 1>doing some high school coaching now where his boy is

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<v Speaker 1>rising sophomore A safety and a quarterback. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>that some of our in state schools have already been

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<v Speaker 1>on his trail. According to his name is Gage Weddle.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Gage's social media, he actually has an offer

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<v Speaker 1>in hand from Brigham Young. I'm not seeing anything as

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<v Speaker 1>far as the utes go, but he is only a freshman,

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<v Speaker 1>so only time will tell