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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>So in this business, this industry that we call talk radio,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta take you gotta take chances. And what I

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<v Speaker 2>mean by that is there's a lot of ways to

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<v Speaker 2>take chances. But you know, you're throwing stuff out there

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<v Speaker 2>that you want to discuss because you think it's of

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<v Speaker 2>interest to your listeners. That's kind of you know how

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<v Speaker 2>this works. So I'm taking a chance here because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if this interests anybody else other than me,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have a deep fascination with this. And again

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<v Speaker 2>it probably says more about me being weird than anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>But and this is not in any way a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>about politics at all. But I went to WDRB dot

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<v Speaker 2>com during the break there, and there is a story

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<v Speaker 2>from Jason Riley shout out Jason Raley headline Louisville man

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<v Speaker 2>charged with using bear spray against Capitol police during January

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<v Speaker 2>sixth riot. So we all know what happened on January

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<v Speaker 2>six years ago. And obviously that was is that four

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<v Speaker 2>years ago?

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<v Speaker 3>Now? Sure was in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>How has it been that long.

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<v Speaker 4>I know it like everything that happened around that time

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<v Speaker 4>of twenty twenty twenty one just feels so like it's

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<v Speaker 4>a distant memory.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a weird inability to truly grasp the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of time that has passed, because again, at times, it

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<v Speaker 2>seems like it was twenty years ago. I also feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it wasn't that long ago at times. So for

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<v Speaker 2>some reason, January sixth doesn't feel like something that was

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<v Speaker 2>four years ago. But here we are four years later,

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<v Speaker 2>and they are still identifying people through the footage that

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<v Speaker 2>they have and holding them accountable. And what fascinates me

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<v Speaker 2>about this is nothing that you probably expect. I just

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<v Speaker 2>if you were there and you know you did something,

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<v Speaker 2>you can be held accountable for. If you did something

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<v Speaker 2>that you know many others did as well, and they've

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<v Speaker 2>been identified, they've been held accountable and had to face

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<v Speaker 2>the music for it, right they some of them have

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<v Speaker 2>gone to prison, some of them have, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean they've even if you don't go to prison, like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still something that's going to anybody. Anytime anybody googles

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<v Speaker 2>your name the rest of your life, that's probably what's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna come up because you know, it's just what this is.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I'm fascinated by, Austin is do they ever

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<v Speaker 2>have a level of feeling like they got away with it?

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<v Speaker 2>Do they are they worried every day and night that

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be told, they're gonna be contacted, They're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna somebody's gonna sho somebody's following them, somebody's gonna show

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<v Speaker 2>up to their work. Like I'm a parented person in general,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we all are to an extent. But if

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that that all it took was them having

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<v Speaker 2>the right angle and the right quality of a of

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<v Speaker 2>an image or a video clip, and they'd be able

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<v Speaker 2>to potentially identify me, I would I would call them

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<v Speaker 2>and say, look, I want to get rid of this.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get this over with because the the

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<v Speaker 2>not knowing if you're getting away with it would drive

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<v Speaker 2>you crazy. And I guess anybody who commits like serious crimes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's yeah, yeah, but but this is one of those

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<v Speaker 2>things where you know others have been caught doing the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing that you did. You know that there's plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of video out there. You're it's more of a of

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<v Speaker 2>a just they're gonna get me at some point I

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<v Speaker 2>want to get it over with. I think if that

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<v Speaker 2>was me, which would never be it can't relate. But

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<v Speaker 2>like if I was in that position, knowing me and

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<v Speaker 2>how I'm paranoid, I think I would just get it

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<v Speaker 2>out of the way. Yeah, but what what really? You

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<v Speaker 2>know what really? Again the level the reason this just

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<v Speaker 2>distracted me as we're coming back from break is because

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<v Speaker 2>there was a pretty consistent window of time over like

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<v Speaker 2>two years, where you weren't shocked when you refresh or

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<v Speaker 2>when you went to your local news or sometimes even

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<v Speaker 2>national news, and you would see they got another one.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a DJ Khaled, another one, like they know,

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<v Speaker 2>they found another one, Like they they're slowly but surely

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<v Speaker 2>figuring out who some of these people were, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>holding them accountable for their actions, which just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what they're supposed to do. But I feel like the

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<v Speaker 2>ones like out of sight, out of mind, Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>the one this current charge here, this louill Man that

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<v Speaker 2>was charged today that made the news. That's not national news,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's local news. So I feel like it's been

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<v Speaker 2>a long time since we've had our local news coverage,

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<v Speaker 2>our local news stations here cover somebody within this region

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<v Speaker 2>that got caught up in this meeting. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>there's been a long drought since we had somebody local.

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<v Speaker 2>So if there's somebody around here that that was a

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<v Speaker 2>part of that, maybe you have been feeling pretty easy.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you have been feeling like you got away with

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<v Speaker 2>it because you know, long drought here. Maybe they're just done,

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<v Speaker 2>They've got all the people they've been able to get.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you have this one pop up today and

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<v Speaker 2>you're probably worried again, like, yeah, just after.

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<v Speaker 4>You think that you maybe might have gotten away, then

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<v Speaker 4>you see your buddy over there on WDRB he got

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<v Speaker 4>the call, the FBI call.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you think they call you or come to your door.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to know. I'm fascinated by this. I

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<v Speaker 2>would imagine you probably they probably show up at your house,

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<v Speaker 2>I would imagine, and they don't take you away in cuffs.

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<v Speaker 2>They probably, more than anything, just let you know you've

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<v Speaker 2>been identified, because they're probably not. And I'm sure there

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<v Speaker 2>are some real pieces of work out there that were involved.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I know there are. They've they've been there's

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<v Speaker 2>been reporting on them in coverage of the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's two people that I don't know at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know them, I've ever met them, but I

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<v Speaker 2>know some acquaintances of theirs that that are from kind

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<v Speaker 2>of my community, not directly where I live. But I'll

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<v Speaker 2>just say a bullet County and the one of the

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<v Speaker 2>one of the individuals, I mean, he was pretty clearly

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<v Speaker 2>a strong conservative and I assume still is, which is

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<v Speaker 2>not a crime by any means. I'm just saying the

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<v Speaker 2>actions that took place like that day, that whole mob stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and again I'm not talking politics. What I'm saying is

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<v Speaker 2>that like it brought something out of people they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even know they had, you know, and what I mean

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<v Speaker 2>by that not good stuff, to where they were just

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<v Speaker 2>clearly doing things because others were doing it. It was

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<v Speaker 2>such a heightened the sensitivity was so heightened at that

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<v Speaker 2>point about there being a change in you know, leadership

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<v Speaker 2>within the country, that kind of stuff, to where it

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<v Speaker 2>made people act in a way like they may still

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<v Speaker 2>feel the exact same way that they felt that day,

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<v Speaker 2>and they may feel as if like they weren't in

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong, but they also let that emotion in real

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<v Speaker 2>time create a situation for them to where they did

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<v Speaker 2>something they would have they know was stupid. Even if

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<v Speaker 2>they wanted to do it, they would have in any

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<v Speaker 2>other situation, they would have had the intelligence, the common

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<v Speaker 2>sense to know I shouldn't do this because you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going to accomplish anything, and man, I could

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<v Speaker 2>ruin my life. But I think people were so caught

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<v Speaker 2>up in what was going on then they weren't thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about what the consequences could be. They weren't thinking about anything.

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<v Speaker 2>They were just lunatic people at that time. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mean that you were a lunatic if you supported

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<v Speaker 2>what they were about, or that if you even win.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm talking about the people that have been able

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<v Speaker 2>to be criminally charged here, because that's like it's they're

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<v Speaker 2>not making up this stuff. They've clearly identified you, and

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<v Speaker 2>the level of resources that they're clearly like what happened

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<v Speaker 2>that day is still wild to think about, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>out of your mind if you don't feel they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to put every resource they have to hold these kind

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<v Speaker 2>of people accountable for that. So again, I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't interest many people other than me, but I just

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<v Speaker 2>as a true crime nerd, there's this show that they

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<v Speaker 2>don't make it anymore but I wish they did, because

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<v Speaker 2>it was really fascinating. I remember the other day I

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<v Speaker 2>was talking about fear Thy Neighbor Austin that's on Investigation Discovery,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a really good channel for true crime nerds

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<v Speaker 2>like myself. It was this one was called I Almost

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<v Speaker 2>Got Away with It, and not every I've seen that

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<v Speaker 2>episode was super interesting, but I really was just fascinated

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<v Speaker 2>to hear these people who you know, almost got away

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<v Speaker 2>with it but didn't when they were on the run,

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<v Speaker 2>went at what point did they get comfortable? At what

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<v Speaker 2>point did they feel like they had got away with it?

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<v Speaker 2>Or at what point did they realize I need to

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<v Speaker 2>just turn myself in because I can't live with this paranoia,

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<v Speaker 2>like eventually they're going to get me, and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>this is, like, that's it. And I could be wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>but the majority of the people that I've seen that

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<v Speaker 2>have been caught up in this that have some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of local ties, I don't know them as individuals, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're I mean, this is probably the first time

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<v Speaker 2>they've ever had a knock on the door from law

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<v Speaker 2>enforcement looking to hold them accountable for something, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. So you know, I'm just I'm weird

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<v Speaker 2>like that, I guess. But anyways, let's dive back Campb'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk some basketball. It's Coffee and Company. Believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a sports show. We are here on Sports

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<v Speaker 2>Talk seven ninety Yeah, I mean, believe.

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<v Speaker 3>It or not. I we got we got whas Nick right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you get you got me talking things that

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<v Speaker 2>are more of the news talk, the human interest kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing. So you know I can be versatile. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not afraid to mix it up a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>going directions. Maybe you weren't expecting, but anyways, louis basketball

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<v Speaker 2>talking about that program in this city has been something

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<v Speaker 2>that will always be done on platforms like this. And

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<v Speaker 2>this year has been fun. Previous year is not so much.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've enjoyed every second of this season. And even

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<v Speaker 2>when they weren't playing well and they weren't winning and

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<v Speaker 2>it looked like they were gonna have a tough time

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<v Speaker 2>putting together a decent season because of injuries, I was

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<v Speaker 2>still energized by Kelsey because and again this is not

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<v Speaker 2>I told you so, but maybe it is I told

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<v Speaker 2>you so. When Louisville lost to Kentucky Duke Ole Miss

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<v Speaker 2>even after the Tennessee Games. Tennessee game is a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit weird because I think we just kind of knew

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<v Speaker 2>that was the first time they were in a position

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<v Speaker 2>to be challenged like that, and clearly it didn't go well.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was taking some heat from listeners and fans

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<v Speaker 2>who thought that I was I was delusional to an

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<v Speaker 2>extent because I'm still looking at them losing these games,

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<v Speaker 2>and some of them were ugly, and I'm acknowledging that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not ideal, But you know what, they're regrouping, They're

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're trying to kind of get a new groove

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<v Speaker 2>mid season, in the midst of one of the toughest

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<v Speaker 2>schedules in the country, non conference.

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<v Speaker 3>I was, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>There were excuses, but I feel like I was justified

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<v Speaker 2>to say, you know what, if they play like that

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<v Speaker 2>against if they play the way they did against Duke,

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<v Speaker 2>that probably beats a lot of teams on this schedule

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the way. If they played like they

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<v Speaker 2>did against Kentucky a upp arena, that probably wins you

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of acc games. And I had no way

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<v Speaker 2>of knowing that it was wishful thinking on my end.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it was me buying time before I potentially

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<v Speaker 2>would have had to accept that maybe this team isn't

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<v Speaker 2>going to get us to the tournament. But here we are,

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<v Speaker 2>and again I looks like I was correct. Now yes

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<v Speaker 2>and no, they're giving results that make me look smart

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<v Speaker 2>as far as you know. They really did just go

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<v Speaker 2>through a gauntlet of a non conference schedule, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like Denny's teams back in the day. Denny

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<v Speaker 2>would have a loaded non conference schedule every year and

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<v Speaker 2>then you take some Sometimes you'd roll through it, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>you would take some lumps, but by the time you

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<v Speaker 2>got to conference play, you were in a really good

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<v Speaker 2>spot because you were battle tested and you're in a

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<v Speaker 2>good place. That's what this team's doing. But also they're different.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I when they nearly lost to EKU, which Jerry

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<v Speaker 2>brought it up earlier, who called in and he's right,

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<v Speaker 2>like that that proves that they can be vulnerable. But

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<v Speaker 2>that team and that was a good Like I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>even that angry about that, Like they avoided the loss,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was it was scary, but I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>just at that point thought, Okay, buckle up, like they

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<v Speaker 2>may be able to win some games, but man, They're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a lot of close games that you're really

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<v Speaker 2>kind of worried about because you know, there's such a

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<v Speaker 2>little there's such a small margin for error that like,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a bad stretch of play for four minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>you might mess around and lose to somebody you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>lose to. So at that point, like I was still thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>tournaments alive, maybe they get there. But then they came

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<v Speaker 2>out against North Carolina in that next game, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is when they were different. And they've been different since then,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean different in.

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<v Speaker 3>A really good way.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was by design, if there

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<v Speaker 2>was something internally that kind of got them locked in

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<v Speaker 2>more so than they already were, but they're showing up

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<v Speaker 2>every night with a very confident approach in who they are.

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<v Speaker 2>There's identified roles within this team. Anybody can can be

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<v Speaker 2>your leading score run any given night. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to keep in mind this balanced scoring attack that

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<v Speaker 2>they have. I mean, you've got chucky Hepburn last night

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<v Speaker 2>with twenty four, Rain Smith with twenty five against Pitt

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<v Speaker 2>Hadley with thirty two against Clemson, Trey Ora fifteen against Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>Hepburn twenty six against UNC, Terrence Edwards twenty two against EKU,

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<v Speaker 2>which he's had more than twenty this season.

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<v Speaker 3>At some point.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Terrence had one game where he was closer

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<v Speaker 2>to thirty, and then rain Smith had twenty seven against FSU.

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<v Speaker 2>I know there'll be some that claim will it's happening

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<v Speaker 2>because you're playing in the lousy ACC whatever. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care think about this, and I don't have any numbers

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<v Speaker 2>to back this up. But there are good college players

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<v Speaker 2>that you've watched for a long time because they've been

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<v Speaker 2>around and they're not elite, but like good college players

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<v Speaker 2>that you feel like could be the leading scorer for

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<v Speaker 2>their team on any given night. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I bet a lot of those guys don't have career

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<v Speaker 2>highs of more than twenty twenty points. I mean, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>points is it's been done before, Like guys can go

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<v Speaker 2>off and have that. But like rain Smith has a

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<v Speaker 2>game of twenty seven points and twenty five points in

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<v Speaker 2>two of the last seven games, Chucky twenty six in

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<v Speaker 2>one game, twenty four in another game, Hadley thirty two.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, these are numbers that like good players don't

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<v Speaker 2>They may average fourteen to sixteen, which is a really

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<v Speaker 2>good average in college. But I bring it up to

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<v Speaker 2>say that, like that could happen on any given night,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not a surprise what I think. What the

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<v Speaker 2>version of this Louisville team that I'm watching right now.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing that would scare me the most is where

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<v Speaker 2>you're cause, again, if they've come out and play bad

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<v Speaker 2>defensively and they're not bringing the same energy, that's an issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we know they can do that now, night in

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<v Speaker 2>and night out, and you know, maybe sometimes you do

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<v Speaker 2>have an off game and they're going to slip up

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<v Speaker 2>and lose to somebody. I'm sure that we don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>like they should lose to. But like, what they're doing

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<v Speaker 2>really well right now, that is so easy to recreate

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<v Speaker 2>every single night. That's not something that you have to

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<v Speaker 2>base off of luck or matchup. They're locked in right

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<v Speaker 2>now and it's been the biggest factor in their success

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<v Speaker 2>here recently. So what would make me really worried is

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<v Speaker 2>if you do that and yet everybody is off and

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<v Speaker 2>nobody can buy a basket, and nobody's been able to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of establish the rhythm to be the guy in

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<v Speaker 2>said game, and it's been different guys I've mentioned, so

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<v Speaker 2>that could happen, but the probability of that happening is

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<v Speaker 2>very it's low. So that's why I just feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>as is this team right now. I mean, they could

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<v Speaker 2>lose to anybody. I mean, they don't play well. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought they played well. They played well against Pitt and

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<v Speaker 2>clearly that was a big game. But just imagine again

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<v Speaker 2>if they didn't leave all those points at the free

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<v Speaker 2>throw line. Right they missed more layups in that game

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<v Speaker 2>than they had all year. And I don't bring those

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<v Speaker 2>things up to be critical. I'm just saying, like ceiling

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<v Speaker 2>for this group, I don't think it's insanely high. But

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<v Speaker 2>like last night in stretches, you were able to see

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<v Speaker 2>and I know Q sucks. We talked about at the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of the show. They had very very much Kenny

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<v Speaker 2>Payne Louisville vibes. Last night up in the Dome, they

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<v Speaker 2>did it was It was awesome to see Louisville take

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<v Speaker 2>advantage of that. But it also gave me a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of PTSD. But what I'm getting at is, like

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<v Speaker 2>last night, you saw when they are, when they are

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<v Speaker 2>doing all the things that you know you can control, effort, intensity, physicality, rebounding.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are things you could bring every day and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not about luck or matchup. So when you have that

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<v Speaker 2>and then you have a night where you, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you have how many three pointers?

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<v Speaker 3>Did they? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville last Yeah, Louisville last night made this stupid stat

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<v Speaker 2>broadcast thing is pissing me off. Louisville last night shot

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<v Speaker 2>forty three percent, and you're right, they made twelve of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight. Like that's also something that hasn't really been there,

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<v Speaker 2>but we know it can happen on any given night.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, I somebody said earlier on the text line, Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me I'm wrong to expect this team to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the Sweet sixteen. I can't tell you you're wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>You can expect what you want. But like here's what

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say. They they could not get there, and I

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<v Speaker 2>can't say I'd be stunned or floored, but I also

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<v Speaker 2>am willing to say, yeah, Like the way they're playing,

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<v Speaker 2>I could absolutely see I could absolutely see this team

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<v Speaker 2>being a Sweet sixteen team right now. And it's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know if it's going to happen, but to

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<v Speaker 2>know that you're not a lunatic for saying, yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>could be there. It's just a nice place to me,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when you consider where we were. All right, quick break,

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<v Speaker 2>We'll come back on the other side. It seems like

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<v Speaker 2>everybody in college basketball is enjoying Cala Perry failing at

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<v Speaker 2>Arkansas thus far, which confirms he was a villain. He's

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<v Speaker 2>not a real likable guy. But I'm curious, Kentucky fans,

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<v Speaker 2>did you know that at the time and just embrace it,

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<v Speaker 2>because if you did, there's nothing wrong with that. But

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<v Speaker 2>like you're now enjoying his failures, I'm sure, which is normal,

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<v Speaker 2>it's natural, But like everybody's dancing on Cal's grave. And

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<v Speaker 2>I wish, you know, I could say, I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be able to root for Cal and say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you go, make Kentucky fans wish you never left. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's just not realistic in any way right now. And

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you don't really know how you're gonna feel. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling good and enjoying col losing and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't intentional, but it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Where we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Our quick break don't go anywhere. It's Cofee and company

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<v Speaker 2>feel about Thorn's right here. On Sports Talk seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety Now back to Coffee and Company by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to find the preseason college basketball ap pole,

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<v Speaker 2>and the reason is because I was getting ready to

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<v Speaker 2>say that I believe that the Arkansas team that John

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<v Speaker 2>Calipari is leading for the first time in his brief

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<v Speaker 2>tenure there is probably in line to maybe be one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most underachieving teams at this point. Although if

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<v Speaker 2>you just I found it the let's see preseason top

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<v Speaker 2>five Kansas, Alabama, Yukon, Houston, Iowa State. Certainly some of

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<v Speaker 2>those teams haven't been as good as expected, but they are,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they're still good. Gonzaga, Duke, Baylor, Carolina. Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>is a big time underachiever. Still make the tournament though

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<v Speaker 2>Baylor same thing. They'll still make the tournament, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>not in a great spot. Eras z own, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a top ten team. They've they've played well in the

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<v Speaker 2>Big twelve, but they'll probably still maybe find a way

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<v Speaker 2>in because of that. But they're underachieving. So maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>a stretch. Maybe because Cal's at Arkansas and you know

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<v Speaker 2>he's cal that that's why it seems like at least,

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<v Speaker 2>it feels right now that Arkansas is the team that

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<v Speaker 2>has underachieved up to this point, and it really feels

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody but Arkansas fans are loving it. In Arkansas fans,

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<v Speaker 2>Cal never did anything good for them at any point

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<v Speaker 2>yet to where they've got any like built up goodwill

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<v Speaker 2>right like they're they quite literally are inheriting a John

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<v Speaker 2>Caliperi coach or a coach you know, in John Calipari.

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<v Speaker 2>I should say that was falling apart at Kentucky and

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<v Speaker 2>was still succeeding to an extent at Kentucky because of

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<v Speaker 2>players Oscar Sheebay, that guy was pretty hard to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>No last year, Reeves, Dillingham, Shepard all on the same team.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think when they did win or played well

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<v Speaker 2>that it was Cal's coaching. I mean, technically, he deserves

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<v Speaker 2>credit because he's coaching, and coaches deserve credit when you

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<v Speaker 2>win and blame when you lose to a certain extent.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're getting like Arkansas, It's not like they're thinking

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna need time. They're aware, oh, this was a

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<v Speaker 2>big mistake. We went and got this guy at the

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<v Speaker 2>worst possible time, And Kentucky fans are happy for it

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<v Speaker 2>because they got bailed out. So like Cal, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see him going anywhere. And look, maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 2>this is all premature because he's had some times where

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<v Speaker 2>his own fan base and of course myself as a

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville fan, have just thought like they're done, they're cooked.

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<v Speaker 2>Even last year, you remember they lost a Gonzaga at home,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was a stretch of play where they lost

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<v Speaker 2>Againzaga at home, and then they lost to who was it,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see we pull it up here now. I'm just curious.

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<v Speaker 2>So last year Kentucky they lost to Yeah, they had

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<v Speaker 2>a stretch, this is their stretch. They lost four of

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<v Speaker 2>six games. They lost to South Carolina, Florida, Tennessee, and

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<v Speaker 2>Gonzaga and then and then ended up beating a bad

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<v Speaker 2>Arkansas team and a bad Bandy team in between there.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, that was I remember, a really low point.

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<v Speaker 2>And then what did they do? They ended up beating Auburn,

419
00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:19.480
<v Speaker 2>who was a top five team at Auburn turned around

420
00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:21.359
<v Speaker 2>lost at home to LSU by one, and then they

421
00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:24.880
<v Speaker 2>finished the season really strong until they hit postseason. So

422
00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:27.319
<v Speaker 2>like there have been there have been instances where it

423
00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:31.640
<v Speaker 2>looked like man Cal like this is about to really

424
00:20:31.680 --> 00:20:34.160
<v Speaker 2>bottom out and they're gonna be free falling and it

425
00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:36.400
<v Speaker 2>and it hasn't fully happened. And again I think it's

426
00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:38.759
<v Speaker 2>mostly because of the guys he has on those teams. Well,

427
00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:41.000
<v Speaker 2>now he's at Arkansas, they don't have those guys. They

428
00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:42.880
<v Speaker 2>got some decent players. Boogie Flan's been a really good

429
00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:43.640
<v Speaker 2>freshman for him.

430
00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:44.720
<v Speaker 3>But John L.

431
00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:49.279
<v Speaker 2>Davis, he'll go down as one of the biggest fraudsters

432
00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:51.400
<v Speaker 2>in college basketball. And I don't mean to be mean

433
00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:54.000
<v Speaker 2>about it, because it's not his fault that like, what

434
00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:56.400
<v Speaker 2>he did at FAU clearly is not recreatable, but that

435
00:20:56.440 --> 00:20:58.240
<v Speaker 2>guy was viewed as one of the best, if not

436
00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:00.559
<v Speaker 2>the best players in the portal are and saw used

437
00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:03.039
<v Speaker 2>that Tyson Chicken money drop the big bags on him.

438
00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:04.759
<v Speaker 2>And he's a I mean, I don't want to say

439
00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:07.480
<v Speaker 2>he's a bum, because he's not. But he's nowhere near

440
00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:10.720
<v Speaker 2>the player he was at FAU. And he's not even

441
00:21:10.759 --> 00:21:12.519
<v Speaker 2>like that big of a difference maker at times, Like

442
00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:14.160
<v Speaker 2>to say he's a bum would mean like he can't

443
00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:17.880
<v Speaker 2>play but for the expectation, and I guess what he

444
00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:21.440
<v Speaker 2>did at FAU, that guy compared to what we're seeing

445
00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:24.039
<v Speaker 2>here is I mean, maybe some would call him a bum.

446
00:21:24.440 --> 00:21:26.400
<v Speaker 2>I just can't that. That's Austin's word. I can't steal

447
00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:28.920
<v Speaker 2>his word. He's the guy who says players or bums. Right,

448
00:21:29.000 --> 00:21:30.359
<v Speaker 2>that's your that's you. I don't want to I want

449
00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:31.880
<v Speaker 2>to step on your toes. Bro, that's your that's your

450
00:21:31.960 --> 00:21:34.559
<v Speaker 2>role here I get. I give you permission.

451
00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:35.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's big.

452
00:21:35.839 --> 00:21:37.200
<v Speaker 2>That's big for you to give me the permission to

453
00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:37.480
<v Speaker 2>use it.

454
00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:39.079
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, who are we calling a bomb?

455
00:21:39.119 --> 00:21:41.799
<v Speaker 2>I was Jenelle Davis from Arkansas who transferred.

456
00:21:41.920 --> 00:21:43.079
<v Speaker 3>I really wanted him this year.

457
00:21:43.160 --> 00:21:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah everybody did, And yeah, I really wish that that

458
00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:48.880
<v Speaker 2>people would realize that you are a part of the

459
00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:51.160
<v Speaker 2>show and they shouldn't just barge in. You haven't experienced

460
00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:53.839
<v Speaker 2>this yet, but I used to just completely derail a segment.

461
00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, because that would happen when the company.

462
00:21:56.319 --> 00:21:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Man was in there.

463
00:21:56.920 --> 00:21:59.000
<v Speaker 2>And I remember those talks, and I don't know, there's

464
00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:01.319
<v Speaker 2>no way around it, because like, if you turn your

465
00:22:01.319 --> 00:22:03.759
<v Speaker 2>mic off, it's just because you know you're doing your job.

466
00:22:03.799 --> 00:22:06.319
<v Speaker 2>But like, you're a part of this show, my man,

467
00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:09.200
<v Speaker 2>and you don't have time for small talk. But anyways,

468
00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:11.599
<v Speaker 2>John L. Davis has been bad for him, and look,

469
00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:14.039
<v Speaker 2>they're just in a really bad way. So the likelihood

470
00:22:14.079 --> 00:22:16.039
<v Speaker 2>of Cal doing what he did last year and even

471
00:22:16.079 --> 00:22:17.680
<v Speaker 2>the year before or maybe the year before that, where

472
00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:19.200
<v Speaker 2>it looks like they've hit a tough stretch and it's

473
00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:22.359
<v Speaker 2>starting to really because the doubt for Cal when he

474
00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:24.400
<v Speaker 2>would lose games in the last five six years of

475
00:22:24.440 --> 00:22:26.200
<v Speaker 2>his tenure in Lexington was much different than when he

476
00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:28.720
<v Speaker 2>did it in the first five years because clearly it

477
00:22:28.759 --> 00:22:32.480
<v Speaker 2>was a rare thing. Well it turned in at the

478
00:22:32.599 --> 00:22:35.319
<v Speaker 2>end of his time in Lexington, Kentucky fans just realizing

479
00:22:35.599 --> 00:22:37.880
<v Speaker 2>this guy not only has fallen off from what he was,

480
00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:43.240
<v Speaker 2>we're below the standard and this is just not working out.

481
00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:45.240
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't seem to like us, and he's kind of

482
00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:48.119
<v Speaker 2>letting us know that as indirectly as he can. So

483
00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:51.480
<v Speaker 2>it just felt like a marriage that needed to come

484
00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:53.039
<v Speaker 2>to an end, a divorce that was needed to happen

485
00:22:53.079 --> 00:22:56.960
<v Speaker 2>for both sides to benefit. But what I've kind of

486
00:22:57.000 --> 00:23:01.400
<v Speaker 2>seen here is that Cal again, he's a good villain.

487
00:23:01.440 --> 00:23:04.039
<v Speaker 2>He was good for the rivalry because he was easy

488
00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:06.640
<v Speaker 2>to dislike. Now I didn't like that he was so

489
00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:10.799
<v Speaker 2>successful in his time at Lexington against Louisville but the

490
00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:15.079
<v Speaker 2>things that make Pat Kelsey and Mark Pope so likable.

491
00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:18.319
<v Speaker 2>Like them, I'm sure there's an effort to be you know,

492
00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:21.559
<v Speaker 2>relatable and likable, but also I think it's pretty genuine.

493
00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:23.240
<v Speaker 2>I think both guys are pretty much what you see

494
00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:25.759
<v Speaker 2>is what you get, and that makes it to where

495
00:23:26.359 --> 00:23:28.039
<v Speaker 2>when there is some tough times or when there is

496
00:23:28.160 --> 00:23:32.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, potential doubt, you'll be more willing to buy

497
00:23:32.960 --> 00:23:34.599
<v Speaker 2>in and believe if you like the guy and he

498
00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:37.960
<v Speaker 2>carries himself a certain way. What's happening right now, Cal

499
00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:41.079
<v Speaker 2>is not relatable. He's not likable in any way. He's

500
00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:43.039
<v Speaker 2>a smart ass. He thinks he's better than everybody. He

501
00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:46.079
<v Speaker 2>talks down to media, he talks down to fans, and

502
00:23:46.119 --> 00:23:49.000
<v Speaker 2>he used to have the biggest basketball fan base in

503
00:23:49.039 --> 00:23:54.039
<v Speaker 2>the world on his side, and even whenever they were upset,

504
00:23:54.319 --> 00:23:57.119
<v Speaker 2>he's still their guy. They're going to defend him to

505
00:23:57.160 --> 00:24:00.640
<v Speaker 2>an extent when other fan bases are really piling on

506
00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:05.319
<v Speaker 2>the villain who's struggling. Well now, Kentucky fans, for the

507
00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:07.160
<v Speaker 2>most part, I haven't even seen that many people dancing

508
00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:09.240
<v Speaker 2>on his grave, But if they did, they'd be justified.

509
00:24:09.240 --> 00:24:11.559
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it wouldn't be something that surprises me.

510
00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:15.359
<v Speaker 2>So when you carry yourself like Cal and you're that guy,

511
00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:21.079
<v Speaker 2>and you have these results that you know are not

512
00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:23.440
<v Speaker 2>up to the standard, and it's at a place where

513
00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:26.039
<v Speaker 2>you haven't done anything for them. You showed up supposed

514
00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:27.920
<v Speaker 2>to be able to take them back to where they

515
00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:30.640
<v Speaker 2>belong right away, because that's why you paid the big bucks,

516
00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:33.480
<v Speaker 2>that's why you left Kentucky to go there, and you stink.

517
00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:35.920
<v Speaker 2>So he has nobody in his corner right now. He

518
00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:38.960
<v Speaker 2>has no supporters. He will not be able to have

519
00:24:39.039 --> 00:24:42.400
<v Speaker 2>a down year at Arkansas and still get players the

520
00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:44.480
<v Speaker 2>way he did at Kentucky. He'll still bring in talent,

521
00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:49.119
<v Speaker 2>but he's got talent this year. But I remember thinking,

522
00:24:50.079 --> 00:24:52.400
<v Speaker 2>right as soon as it's still it's still to this day,

523
00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:54.400
<v Speaker 2>is weird that he left like he did? But you know,

524
00:24:54.759 --> 00:24:56.559
<v Speaker 2>here we are. He's halfway through his first season there,

525
00:24:56.559 --> 00:24:58.880
<v Speaker 2>and Mark Pope's halfway through his first season in Lexington.

526
00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:03.640
<v Speaker 2>But the it's an area where Cal ends up going

527
00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:07.640
<v Speaker 2>to Arkansas thriving, winning at a high level, making Kentucky

528
00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:11.960
<v Speaker 2>fans maybe not feel regret, some of them would. But look,

529
00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:14.599
<v Speaker 2>even if he does, if he even even if he did,

530
00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:16.759
<v Speaker 2>and I guess he still technically can. But if cal

531
00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:19.599
<v Speaker 2>went to Arkansas and he was kicking ass and taking names,

532
00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:22.480
<v Speaker 2>and he was arrogant as can be, and he was

533
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:26.480
<v Speaker 2>wanting Kentucky fans to know you guys, you guys did this.

534
00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:29.960
<v Speaker 2>You guys didn't appreciate me. I think some Kentucky fans

535
00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:32.640
<v Speaker 2>would realize, Yeah, but you needed that for you to

536
00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:36.000
<v Speaker 2>get back to work and really grind you were you

537
00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:39.799
<v Speaker 2>were complacent, You didn't. I mean, you started to be

538
00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:42.559
<v Speaker 2>more entertained by trolling our fans than you were about,

539
00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:45.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, like trying to win. Like so, Kentucky fans,

540
00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:47.440
<v Speaker 2>if that were to play out, there's a scenario where

541
00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:49.960
<v Speaker 2>you would say, look, I kind of hated it makes

542
00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:52.200
<v Speaker 2>us look bad, but I know that Calvin succeeding at

543
00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:55.079
<v Speaker 2>Arkansas would not have succeeded here at Kentucky because of

544
00:25:55.119 --> 00:25:58.599
<v Speaker 2>the way he was doing things. So that was the

545
00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:01.920
<v Speaker 2>scenario that you know that he would be able to

546
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:04.440
<v Speaker 2>if he had success. But that the version that you're

547
00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:07.039
<v Speaker 2>getting in Arkansas is the same guy that he was

548
00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:11.079
<v Speaker 2>at Kentucky, but he doesn't have anything built up there,

549
00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:13.880
<v Speaker 2>and he doesn't even have as good a resources at Arkansas,

550
00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:16.000
<v Speaker 2>which is a good job, make no mistake about it.

551
00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:16.519
<v Speaker 3>But it's not.

552
00:26:16.519 --> 00:26:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky, because, to be frank, when it comes to college

553
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:23.519
<v Speaker 2>basketball jobs, nothing is. So I think there's a much

554
00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:26.799
<v Speaker 2>more there's a much higher probability here that they bought

555
00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:29.119
<v Speaker 2>him out and they just stink they're winless in the SEC.

556
00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.440
<v Speaker 2>So if Cal is gonna win there, he would be energized.

557
00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:36.160
<v Speaker 2>He would he would finally start, you know, playing a

558
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:39.160
<v Speaker 2>little bit more modern basketball. He would quit, he would

559
00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:41.200
<v Speaker 2>quit employing a bunch of yes men on his staff

560
00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:44.559
<v Speaker 2>that don't have you know, the relationship with him is

561
00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:46.200
<v Speaker 2>just not one where they can tell him, hey, dude,

562
00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:49.079
<v Speaker 2>you're doing this wrong. We need to do this. I mean,

563
00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Cal the signs and the issues that were there during

564
00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:57.599
<v Speaker 2>his tenure at Kentucky towards the end that made it

565
00:26:57.839 --> 00:26:59.720
<v Speaker 2>play out the way that it did. He took all

566
00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:03.039
<v Speaker 2>that Arkansas, but he does not have the resources there

567
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:05.559
<v Speaker 2>to kind of, you know, at least limp to the

568
00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:07.920
<v Speaker 2>tournament and get a decent seed before losing to a

569
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:11.559
<v Speaker 2>bum like Oakland or Saint Peter's. So Kentucky, as I've

570
00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.720
<v Speaker 2>said for weeks now, they've won the breakup and I've

571
00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:20.000
<v Speaker 2>found last night as a reminder that winning and losing,

572
00:27:20.119 --> 00:27:22.759
<v Speaker 2>especially at places that really have a standard set, that

573
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:25.759
<v Speaker 2>is the most valuable thing. And it's not close, but

574
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:30.759
<v Speaker 2>how you carry yourself, you know, likability, being humble, that

575
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:33.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff can go a long way when you

576
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:38.960
<v Speaker 2>either are going through a rough stretch or you've kind

577
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:41.799
<v Speaker 2>of fallen off and it doesn't look good, but fans

578
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:44.759
<v Speaker 2>know you at one point, we're good, and you're You're

579
00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:47.400
<v Speaker 2>hungry and motivated, You're you're not stubborn. You'll go Like

580
00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Nick Saban used to be pretty content with winning game

581
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:52.799
<v Speaker 2>six to three in the BCS era, right, pretty content

582
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:54.000
<v Speaker 2>with that. I didn't need a quarterback. I could have

583
00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:55.799
<v Speaker 2>put me out there. Probably not really, but you know

584
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:58.519
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. But then he realized, you know what,

585
00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:00.200
<v Speaker 2>I can't do that. There's gonna be some offen is

586
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:01.599
<v Speaker 2>out there that I'm gonna have to keep up with.

587
00:28:01.799 --> 00:28:04.440
<v Speaker 2>So what did he do? He evolved. He hired Lane

588
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Kiffit and Steve Sarkishan to come in and call plays.

589
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:08.680
<v Speaker 2>That's a guy willing to adapt and not let his

590
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:11.119
<v Speaker 2>ego get in the way. Cal is a madman. I

591
00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:15.240
<v Speaker 2>don't even know what I mean. He's he's doing the

592
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:17.240
<v Speaker 2>same stuff in the press conferences too, like acting like

593
00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:19.680
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't know. I mean, I used to say this

594
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:21.720
<v Speaker 2>stuff aloud in Kentucky fans. I didn't expect him to

595
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:23.079
<v Speaker 2>call in and yell. I mean, because I think they

596
00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:25.160
<v Speaker 2>deep down agree, but you know it's their coach at

597
00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:26.960
<v Speaker 2>the time, so they're not going to be mean. They

598
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:28.640
<v Speaker 2>would acknowledge it, but not to the level that I

599
00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:32.640
<v Speaker 2>would as somebody that's kind of sitting sitting afar from

600
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:36.319
<v Speaker 2>the car wreck and enjoying the craziness. It sounds awful,

601
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:38.000
<v Speaker 2>but you know what I mean, Like, I'm just like

602
00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:40.160
<v Speaker 2>sitting here thinking this guy really just is he making

603
00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:43.400
<v Speaker 2>is he the highest paid coach in college basketball? Does

604
00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:46.759
<v Speaker 2>he have the best job in the sport? Is he

605
00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:49.440
<v Speaker 2>underwhelming in a major way because he won't play his

606
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:52.079
<v Speaker 2>best players? And then he's showing up to his press

607
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:54.079
<v Speaker 2>conference as if he doesn't care and telling you that

608
00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:56.039
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't even know who's on the schedule next, Like

609
00:28:56.240 --> 00:29:00.400
<v Speaker 2>that is around. That is wild behavior. But Kentucky again,

610
00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:03.559
<v Speaker 2>like it's their guy and they knew that that wasn't ideal.

611
00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:06.079
<v Speaker 2>But I think where they were the most sad is

612
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:07.440
<v Speaker 2>that they just kind of felt like, this guy's never

613
00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:09.559
<v Speaker 2>going to change. This is what it is, and we

614
00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:12.720
<v Speaker 2>could be a lot worse than you know, the Caliperi

615
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:13.319
<v Speaker 2>that we had.

616
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:13.720
<v Speaker 3>At the end.

617
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:16.559
<v Speaker 2>But man, this isn't this isn't fun, this isn't good,

618
00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:18.759
<v Speaker 2>and the best days of him are clearly in the

619
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:21.240
<v Speaker 2>rear view. And with that, you need change. But you

620
00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:23.000
<v Speaker 2>couldn't make a change. You couldn't pay to get rid

621
00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:28.240
<v Speaker 2>of them. And then a gracious, gracious conference foe decided

622
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:30.400
<v Speaker 2>to step in and take Caliperry off your hands. And

623
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they thought they were getting some special and look,

624
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:37.720
<v Speaker 2>he's still what what is he fifteen sixteen, seventeen games

625
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:41.119
<v Speaker 2>into his tenure there, and they're not terrible, but they're

626
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:44.279
<v Speaker 2>right now. What's happened with Arkansas is that they have

627
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<v Speaker 2>lost their first four SEC games, and the SEC is loaded,

628
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:51.440
<v Speaker 2>and they didn't do enough in the non conference to

629
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:53.920
<v Speaker 2>where they like, like right now, they're eleven and six overall,

630
00:29:54.200 --> 00:29:56.599
<v Speaker 2>lost four in a row Ozero and four in the SEC,

631
00:29:57.480 --> 00:29:59.759
<v Speaker 2>and they do have one good win and it was

632
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:01.759
<v Speaker 2>a old one. They ended up beating Michigan in a

633
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<v Speaker 2>game that they were I mean, it was a wild

634
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:06.319
<v Speaker 2>game overall, but other than that, you know, they beat Miami,

635
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:10.039
<v Speaker 2>Miami sucks. They beat you know, I mean, they beat Baylor,

636
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:11.640
<v Speaker 2>or they lost to Baylor. That doesn't even look like

637
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:13.400
<v Speaker 2>that good of a loss. Now they got beat by

638
00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Illinois by double digits. I mean, LSU, They're not terrible,

639
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:21.160
<v Speaker 2>but they're one of the worst teams in the SEC.

640
00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:24.160
<v Speaker 2>You've got Missouri coming up next on the road. You

641
00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:26.720
<v Speaker 2>know what Missouri just did. They went and beat Florida

642
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:29.559
<v Speaker 2>in Gainesville or was it in Gainsville? I think it was.

643
00:30:29.559 --> 00:30:32.400
<v Speaker 3>Was it Gainsville? Yea, yes, eleven point underdogars.

644
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:34.400
<v Speaker 2>So then you've got Georgia, who you know, just beat

645
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky Oklahoma, who's clearly a good team. Like, I think

646
00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:42.720
<v Speaker 2>this thing could really fall apart, and I'd be a

647
00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:45.359
<v Speaker 2>liar if I said I wasn't enjoying it. However, if

648
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:48.359
<v Speaker 2>they lose to Missouri, lose to Georgia, loose to Oklahoma

649
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:51.680
<v Speaker 2>meaning Arkansas, and then they get their first win on

650
00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:54.319
<v Speaker 2>February first, I can't lie to you and act like

651
00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:56.799
<v Speaker 2>that would be a terrible sign for the future of

652
00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:59.279
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky basketball with Mark Pope, because I don't believe that.

653
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:03.079
<v Speaker 2>But I know if there's one game left that you

654
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:05.359
<v Speaker 2>don't want to lose on your schedule, and you are

655
00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:09.480
<v Speaker 2>a Kentucky fan, you're a liar. If you say that

656
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:11.240
<v Speaker 2>it's not Arkansas, you're a liar.

657
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:11.720
<v Speaker 3>And it's fine.

658
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:13.799
<v Speaker 2>People can lie in lie of themselves to make themselves

659
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:16.920
<v Speaker 2>feel better about the situation. But Kentucky the rest of

660
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:18.839
<v Speaker 2>the way, they've got, you know, the typical teams they

661
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.200
<v Speaker 2>play in SEC play, and technically, on paper, a loss

662
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:25.680
<v Speaker 2>to South Carolina would be a worse loss than a

663
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:28.799
<v Speaker 2>loss to an Arkansas team that you know is struggling.

664
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:32.279
<v Speaker 2>But if I give I say, look, you're gonna lose

665
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:36.680
<v Speaker 2>one game, who do you want to make sure it's

666
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.519
<v Speaker 2>not against? It would be Arkansas for obvious reasons, and

667
00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:42.160
<v Speaker 2>I you know, I don't think they will. In fact,

668
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:44.240
<v Speaker 2>I think they may blow Cal off the floor. But

669
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:46.279
<v Speaker 2>then again, Pope probably wouldn't because he's Pope. He's probably

670
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:48.519
<v Speaker 2>gonna like if the fans start booing or saying something

671
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:50.599
<v Speaker 2>bad about Cal, Pope will probably tell him the style,

672
00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:52.119
<v Speaker 2>because that just kind of seems to be the kind

673
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:55.640
<v Speaker 2>of guy is, which you know, I don't. I don't

674
00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:57.400
<v Speaker 2>like that if it's my team, But how am I

675
00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:00.200
<v Speaker 2>going to get mad because my coach is mature and

676
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:03.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, not about himself and you know, a good dude.

677
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:07.440
<v Speaker 2>So Cal has given us the reminder that he's the

678
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:09.319
<v Speaker 2>old time villain and he could he could be cool

679
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:10.920
<v Speaker 2>being the villain when he had the biggest fan base

680
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:12.880
<v Speaker 2>in the sport at his you know, they would go

681
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:14.880
<v Speaker 2>to war for him. Well now they're not, and now

682
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:16.640
<v Speaker 2>he's got a big fan base that feels like they've

683
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:19.799
<v Speaker 2>been robbed. They've been they've been defrauded, and it's it's

684
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.799
<v Speaker 2>enjoyable for sure. Quick break. We'll keep this thing rolling along.

685
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<v Speaker 2>It's Coffee and Company, Nick Coffee. That's me Austin Montgomery alongside,

686
00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:27.920
<v Speaker 2>taking you up till six o'clock right here on Sports

687
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<v Speaker 2>Talk seven ninety.

688
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Now back to Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

689
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 2>So yesterday we had somebody text in asking me to

691
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:44.920
<v Speaker 2>provide some thoughts on an argument they were having with

692
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:48.319
<v Speaker 2>their buddy about Syracuse being like a mini rival, and

693
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:51.559
<v Speaker 2>I just said, I think rivalry and rival is something

694
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:53.880
<v Speaker 2>that we throw out their way too loosely in sports,

695
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:56.599
<v Speaker 2>and another thing that I that I believe people put

696
00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:59.839
<v Speaker 2>out there way too loosely just to make themselves feel better.

697
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Is a bad beat. Sometimes you just got it wrong.

698
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:08.119
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a bad beat. I mean, for example, whenever

699
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:11.079
<v Speaker 2>I had a three leg parlay that would have been huge,

700
00:33:11.759 --> 00:33:15.559
<v Speaker 2>but I got hooked by half a point. That sucked

701
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:17.279
<v Speaker 2>and it came down to the very end. But it

702
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:19.319
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a bad beat. It just like I got it wrong.

703
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:23.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean that that to me, bad beats are sometimes

704
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:25.599
<v Speaker 2>kind of rare, Like I remember the one bad beat

705
00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:28.920
<v Speaker 2>I had that quite literally, like I remember thinking to myself,

706
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:33.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm really really angry. That is unbelievable that that happened.

707
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:38.640
<v Speaker 2>But there's probably a good chance that no matter what

708
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:40.359
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the way, when it comes to me betting,

709
00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:42.559
<v Speaker 2>I'll have a bad beat again. But there's not gonna

710
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:44.640
<v Speaker 2>be one worse than that. And that was a random

711
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:47.319
<v Speaker 2>college football game. I don't know was that LSU was involved.

712
00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:50.000
<v Speaker 2>During ed or Jeron's time, I had a seven leg

713
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:52.240
<v Speaker 2>parlay that I paid, like, I mean, I bet ten

714
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.200
<v Speaker 2>bucks on it would have paid close to a grand oh,

715
00:33:55.240 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 2>and I took an under and it was desperate late

716
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:07.319
<v Speaker 2>and you know, clearly if the other team scored, you know,

717
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:09.199
<v Speaker 2>I would have been I would have been in trouble,

718
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:12.239
<v Speaker 2>but that was so unlikely. And if they did turn

719
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:13.679
<v Speaker 2>it over, which it looked like they were going to do,

720
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:15.360
<v Speaker 2>the other team would have just taken an need into

721
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:17.840
<v Speaker 2>the game. But there was some kind of a some

722
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:21.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of a botched snap and they ended up going

723
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:23.719
<v Speaker 2>back and picking up the botch Like the snap was

724
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:26.599
<v Speaker 2>way behind the line of scrimmage. They ended up picking

725
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:30.159
<v Speaker 2>it up and desperation making some kind of big heave

726
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:34.719
<v Speaker 2>to just keep it alive, and they caught a hail

727
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:38.039
<v Speaker 2>Mary type play, but it was like midfield, so I'm thinking, oh,

728
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:40.599
<v Speaker 2>this is over. Well, they ruled it that he caught it,

729
00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:44.199
<v Speaker 2>but then he got popped and fumbled it, and the

730
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:47.000
<v Speaker 2>other team picked it up and scored, and that made

731
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:49.000
<v Speaker 2>the overhead and not the under I feel like that

732
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:50.760
<v Speaker 2>was a bad beat, But again, maybe you could just

733
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:52.239
<v Speaker 2>say that I got it wrong. I don't know technically

734
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:54.480
<v Speaker 2>that's what it is, but you know, it looks safe,

735
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:57.039
<v Speaker 2>and then something really improbable happened. I think you can

736
00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.280
<v Speaker 2>make the case that one of the easily the worst

737
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:02.199
<v Speaker 2>beat I've seen of the season in college basketball happened

738
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:03.760
<v Speaker 2>last night in a game that a lot of people

739
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:07.079
<v Speaker 2>probably didn't watch, care about or you know, know anything about.

740
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:11.480
<v Speaker 2>But North Texas and East Carolina played last night in

741
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:13.599
<v Speaker 2>a in a what conference is that is at the

742
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:14.320
<v Speaker 2>American Conference?

743
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:14.679
<v Speaker 3>I think?

744
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:19.239
<v Speaker 2>So North Texas and e CU. The under was one

745
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:23.760
<v Speaker 2>twenty eight and a half and the game ended and

746
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:27.960
<v Speaker 2>they were in the handshake line shaking hands with a

747
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.599
<v Speaker 2>final score of sixty nine to fifty seven.

748
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:31.400
<v Speaker 3>Nice.

749
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:33.800
<v Speaker 2>So let's yeah, that's nice. So let's do the math there.

750
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:38.679
<v Speaker 2>Sixty nine plus fifty seven gives you one hundred and

751
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:43.519
<v Speaker 2>twenty six. One twenty eight and a half is the total.

752
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:47.000
<v Speaker 2>So you took the under. It's sitting at one twenty six.

753
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:50.280
<v Speaker 2>They're shaking hands, You're refreshing that app to see when

754
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:53.280
<v Speaker 2>that money hits right from me? Me get me paid here.

755
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:54.400
<v Speaker 3>It's all favorite thing to do.

756
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wait, just waiting for you to you know. I

757
00:35:57.039 --> 00:35:59.840
<v Speaker 2>love I love the attitude I've got going internally when

758
00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:02.239
<v Speaker 2>I'll pop open that app. No and I won, and

759
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:03.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, all right, pay me, you owe me money,

760
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:04.840
<v Speaker 2>like pay up, pay up.

761
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:06.719
<v Speaker 3>And then when they're not doing it, you're like, oh yeah,

762
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:07.280
<v Speaker 3>here they go.

763
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so don't know how it happened. I haven't heard

764
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:13.880
<v Speaker 2>the explanation. But while they're going through the handshake line,

765
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:17.960
<v Speaker 2>somehow they were told that the game's not over. There's

766
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:22.519
<v Speaker 2>point five seconds left. Oh no, North Caro, North Texas

767
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:24.920
<v Speaker 2>is up sixty nine to fifty seven, so like it's over,

768
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:26.880
<v Speaker 2>the game's over. But they say, no, we're gonna go

769
00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:29.280
<v Speaker 2>put half a second back on the clock. After they've

770
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:31.239
<v Speaker 2>gone through the handshake lines. Now nobody had left the

771
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:33.760
<v Speaker 2>court yet, but like they're finishing up. It got to

772
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.239
<v Speaker 2>the point where all the players had shaken hands and

773
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:38.280
<v Speaker 2>it's just all the staffers like that's how deep they

774
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:40.880
<v Speaker 2>were into ending the game. And they told them, no,

775
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:42.880
<v Speaker 2>you got to get back out there for point five seconds.

776
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:46.239
<v Speaker 2>East Carolina has the ball with less than a second left,

777
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:49.719
<v Speaker 2>down twelve points. They throw it in guy heaves it

778
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:53.079
<v Speaker 2>from beyond half court, makes it. The final score is

779
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:55.920
<v Speaker 2>one twenty nine, not one twenty eight and a half. That,

780
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:57.280
<v Speaker 2>my friends, is.

781
00:36:57.280 --> 00:36:58.400
<v Speaker 3>A bad beat.

782
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:01.199
<v Speaker 2>And I think what makes it quite literally a bad

783
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:03.599
<v Speaker 2>beat and not like hey it was close and you lost,

784
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:06.000
<v Speaker 2>the game was over and they decided for it not

785
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:08.159
<v Speaker 2>to be over for reasons that did not matter, that

786
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:11.800
<v Speaker 2>had no impact at all. That's just I mean, I

787
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:14.000
<v Speaker 2>doubt it. I mean, if there really just doing their job,

788
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:15.440
<v Speaker 2>if they feel like there's still should have been time

789
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:17.960
<v Speaker 2>left regardless, then they're doing their job. But like I

790
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:20.719
<v Speaker 2>would be so burned up that I would just think

791
00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:22.320
<v Speaker 2>that there's some kind of conspiracy because one of the

792
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:25.119
<v Speaker 2>chances of me losing this bet whenever it was kind

793
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:27.119
<v Speaker 2>of you know, already over, had already won.

794
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:29.760
<v Speaker 4>Why are they even heaving it just to go down

795
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:31.000
<v Speaker 4>nine instead?

796
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:32.880
<v Speaker 2>That's a good a lot, And that's the good thing.

797
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:35.559
<v Speaker 2>That's a good point because there were not I mean

798
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:38.320
<v Speaker 2>in the NBA. This is clearly a thing in college

799
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:41.119
<v Speaker 2>now that you know you are able to go get

800
00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:43.719
<v Speaker 2>paid to play, and your numbers are gonna matter when

801
00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:45.920
<v Speaker 2>you're being evaluated for teams that want to pay you

802
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:49.199
<v Speaker 2>INIL money. There are players that now this day and age,

803
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.639
<v Speaker 2>will not take a meaningless shot because it'll the chances

804
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:54.480
<v Speaker 2>of it going in are next to none and it

805
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:56.440
<v Speaker 2>could impact their percentage. I'm sure that's not on the

806
00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:57.920
<v Speaker 2>minds of a lot of players, but it wouldn't shock

807
00:37:57.960 --> 00:37:59.920
<v Speaker 2>me if it was. But this guy decided to just

808
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:01.840
<v Speaker 2>eave it up there, and sure enough he made it.

809
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:04.440
<v Speaker 2>And I bet he had no clue at all what

810
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:06.400
<v Speaker 2>he had just did to many people who decided to

811
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:08.280
<v Speaker 2>bet the under in that game.

812
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:09.920
<v Speaker 3>That's absolutely gross.

813
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:12.760
<v Speaker 2>And another part of the bad beat effect here is that,

814
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:15.840
<v Speaker 2>in the grand scheme of things, if you took under

815
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:17.840
<v Speaker 2>one twenty eight and a half, you got some stones

816
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:19.840
<v Speaker 2>on you. In general, that's a low number. I mean

817
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:22.360
<v Speaker 2>that's really low. So you took a risk, and then

818
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:24.480
<v Speaker 2>you were watching them shake hands and you feel like

819
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:27.880
<v Speaker 2>you got it and you knew more than others, and

820
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:30.679
<v Speaker 2>yet you know you got robbed. So condolences to anybody

821
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:32.280
<v Speaker 2>who lost that one. That's a bad beat. Makes me

822
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:34.159
<v Speaker 2>feel not as bad about the ones I don't win,

823
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:36.280
<v Speaker 2>and I don't win a lot. All right, we got

824
00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:38.280
<v Speaker 2>another hour to go, stick around five o'clock hours. Next

825
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:40.280
<v Speaker 2>it's coffee and company and we are fueled by Thornton's

826
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<v Speaker 2>right here on Sports Talk seven ninety