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Speaker 1: Hello friends, and welcome back to the rabbit Hole. I'm

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your host Danny, and today we have Austin back.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 1: We are going to get into everything that we haven't

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touched about Columbine so far. It's just so much like

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you just really can't can't talk about it enough to

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get all the information out. So thank you for coming back, Austin.

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I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Of course. Yeah, I'm honestly always eager to peel back

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the layers of the seat in terms of the Columbine narrative.

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And also I always found that interesting. And whenever I

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did an episode with Brad ex Varum Christina, she's great,

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she's she's a very good interview at all times, honestly

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for anything. But she came on just to discuss because

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I saw she had done an episode specifically on the

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mind control connections to James Holmes, and I thought, oh

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my gosh, there's the perfect moment, you know. So I

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hit her up, like, hey, you should come on the show.

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We'll talk about this, and so was James Holmes. You know.

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Program to Kill was basically the episode title, and and

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it was a lot of fun. But throughout that and

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just reflecting back on the trial of James Holmes and

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the Aurora case, and even the Aurora don obelisk at

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the at the courthouse and and all of them. I mean,

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there's what is the Goddess of Aurora? You know, It's

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like there there's so much to the occult connections to

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potentially maybe even a layered ritual involved with a major

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clandestine operation domestically greenlit within the US. Well, why not

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take advantage and exploit every last opportunity, I think is

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how this cabal operates, right, But anyway, the point being

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is that I saw this crazy just as far as

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this evidence linking the jury selection during the James Holmes trial,

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and it basically started in January of twenty fifteen, and

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so you have the jury selection process lasting three months

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and a total of nine thousand candidates were summoned and

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this was the largest jury summons in US history. So

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you have on April fifteenth, you have the selection ending

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with a total of nineteen women five men serving And

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apparently there were concerns about the selection of the jurors

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and at least two from the pool of twelve primary

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jurors along with twelve alternates, had ties to the nineteen

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ninety nine column buying high school massacre.

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Speaker 2: Jure number five like thirty six?

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Speaker 3: Uh, how many was it? Let me find it?

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Speaker 1: I remember. So this happened when I was in high school,

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and I did not like I placed thirty minutes.

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Speaker 3: Well people total seventy injured, right, and then sixty two

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were directly and eight indirectly apparently injured. But yeah, that

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was in twenty twelve century sixteen movie theater. Yeah, it's

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such a fascinating case that in itself, and by the

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way it comes up in a very critical way within Columbine,

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which I had no just expectation of this. And as

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soon as I stumbled onto you know, Wade, Michael Page

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and in the seakh Temple shooting in Wisconsin, he is

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the individual who's responsible. It's so fascinating. So it seems

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as if he had potential connections to James Holmes because

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he was living in Aurora around that time and was

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effectively identified in certain ways by witnesses who claimed that

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this individual was around James leading up to the shooting,

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and also all of these strange connections to Wade when

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he was just before he committed the Sikh temple shooting.

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In Wisconsin. So apparently there's these mind control connections to this,

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because he would just be in a trance, in a

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daze like out in his car sitting for hours, and

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he only only had a pizza delivery driver is the

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only visitor that would actually go to his apartment leading

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up to the time of the shooting. I thought that

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was very interesting because he had a he seemed to

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have a significant interest in pizza for some strange reason,

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and was also attending the Blackjack Pizza restaurant in Littleton,

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Colorado during the time of the column By and shooting,

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where he happened to live just after getting out of

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the military for what I believe was a sheep dip discharge,

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a false discharge, and basically he was trained in psychological

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operations as a specialist in the military at Fort Bragg

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and as soon as he left, just a couple months

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before Columbine happens, he moves to Littleton. It's the craziest

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Speaker 1: He and then he's also an Aurora with James Holmes,

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and then he commits like a shooting in Wisconsin exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is the craziest story that I've ever heard.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm tired of you coming on here and telling

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me about these things because I'm like, you know what

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I need to do. I need to dive into that.

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Speaker 3: It's fascinating, guys. This was one of the craziest connections

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that I've found, honestly through throughout the entire story was

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Wade Michael Page, because I do think he had a

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handler whose name was Todd Blodgett. And we can get

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into that as well, because there are some strange connections

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to additional police or police pizza delivery drivers at Blackjack

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Pizza who were like involved in an assassination attempt on

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Barack Obama at the Yes in Colorado at d NC convention. Yes, exactly.

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So they were adult Blackjack pizza delivery drivers that were

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friends with Eric and Dylan. Is that not interesting? Years

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later they would they would be involved in an aryan

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white supremacist organization that was apparently involving the manufacturing and

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facilitation of methamphetamine.

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Speaker 1: Right, And these guys that were involved with the.

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Speaker 3: They were hanging around individuals from the trench Coat mafia.

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Blackjack wasn't associate to the TCM because they were apparently

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meeting there routinely so and even going like meeting going

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as far as meeting Eric and Dylan at the restaurant

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and then leaving to get in fights like with with

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other younger students and people. Just I forget the story.

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a brawl, but the they were like staging explosions, dry

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ice bombs in the bathroom and things of that nature.

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they used for the pipe bombs and everything else they

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apparently got from fireworks, So they were they helped shut

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down a major fireworks stand and and they gave them

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a significant number of fireworks apparently, and they were very excited,

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and I believe Eric started to craft the pipe bombs

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through draining the fireworks of the black powder and basically

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utilizing it in that way. Up in the mountains, they

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were doing this and blowing up, blowing holes in the

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ground and talking to their friends about how exciting it was,

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I guess. But yeah, as far as Wade Michael Page,

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in talking about his story and how it connects into Columbine. Yes,

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And I had to dedicate this portion of my episode

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to a friend who was actually he created the edits

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for Already Dead. He created a lot of edits since

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he was His handle was at jolly on cleebold on Twitter,

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and he actually went to prison for murder apparently. So

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oh yeah, still don't know. It sounds like a tragedy, right,

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some sort of drug influence tragedy that occurred between friends

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on some of the details to reconfirm as guilt or

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anything of that nature, but I will say that he

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was a friend of the show and it's been a

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very interesting experience at that. But I wish him well.

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But he is the one who originally introduced me to

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this avenue of research which implicated we yet another well

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established group of white supremacist neo Nazi accelerationists. This is

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how I described the Merchants of Death as a part

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of a wider network which seemed to infiltrate and oversaturate. Well, really,

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the network itself was infiltrated and oversaturated with cheap psychological

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warfare operatives, and they also seemingly were involved in Columbines.

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So August fifth, twenty twelve, you have Wade Michael Page,

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forty years old. He fatally shoots six people wounds four

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others before allegedly committing suicide at the Wirdwara Seek Temple

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and Oak Creek, Wisconsin. So Wade Michael Page was officially,

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as the story goes, was armed with a nine millimeters

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Springfield XDM semi automatic pistol. He had legally purchased the

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gun in Wisconsin. And so police respond following like early

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morning emergency calls, it like ten thirty, and you have

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multiple witnesses who first claimed four white males dressed in

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all black carrying out a well coordinated mass murder attack

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involving tear gas. This is the first original reporting.

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Speaker 1: A lot of changes, of course, they're like, oh, just kidding,

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it was just the one guy.

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Speaker 3: We've heard exactly acted alone. So officially, when police arrived

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on the scene, Wade Michael Page allegedly shoots one of

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the responding officers eight times in the parking lot. So

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after being shot in the stomach by another officer. This

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when Wade Michael Page fatally shoots himself in the head

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four people killed inside the temple, three people, including Page,

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died outside. So Wade was born and raised in Colorado,

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and if you can believe it, he actually went to

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high school in Middletown, which which high school, so a

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Speaker 2: Apparently, WHOA, no, stop right now.

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Speaker 1: I went to Rabaha High School and there was a

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shooting at a high school the year after I left.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Hey, this is the staging rounds to

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some expen It's crazy to me. This whole story added

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an additional layer that felt so much more accurate and plausible,

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as far as the additional teams of shooters that were

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described on the scene, which I think we should probably

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go back to that after this story, just to kind

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of reinforce the additional shooter narrative. But yeah, we'll see

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where we end after a couple hours, honestly, because it's

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he apparently according to nine News, they found Wade's name

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seven twice or no for nineteen eighty seven, and then

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twice in a rap Hole High school's yearbook for nineteen

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eighty nine and nineteen ninety. So his last name was

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different at the time, which matches if you're a sheep

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the name Wade van Buskirk. That was his name at

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the time, and so Wade Michael Page, which is an

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awesome name for any of these prior man trains you

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can point to, you know, Lee Harvey Oswald.

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Speaker 1: I asked that question one time and somebody was like, well,

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that way we can identify them. There could be another

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Lee Oswald out there, so if we call him Lee

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Speaker 2: Right, Why do we have to add the middle name exactly?

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it's very strange. But anyway, so he apparently was a

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Hawk missile system, which was raytheon's medium range surface to

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air missile before becoming a psychological operation specialist at the

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notorious Fort Bragg home of US Armies. Yes, exactly. Obviously

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it's the home of US Army Special Operations Command. And

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so there's an author who wrote a book called Mind Control,

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Black Assassins, and it's very interesting, it's extraordinarily interesting, honestly.

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But so, a Psychological Operations specialist requires a score of

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at least one oh five on the ASVAB, the Armed

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Services Vocational Aptitude Battery, which by the way, that in

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itself was developed by the DoD and has a strange background.

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I think apparently not apparently not if you're the psycholog

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psychological operations and and you uh yeah, you you fit

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the criteria. Yes, it does, I think. Also, oh man,

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the first thing I thought of was Tim McVeagh claiming

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to his sister that one day he was called all

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of his unit was called out in front of the

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officers and essentially they were reading off social security numbers,

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uh apparently fit the mold and and uh fit the

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characteristics and scored well enough to be chosen uh and

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also be sheep dipped and and then turned back out

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into the domestic lifestyle of the general public. And then

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as acting as a civilian, they would obviously be utilized

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as a as a black operative within the context of

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domestic cleindestine operations. This is modern Gladiol man, It's what

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this point, it's revealing itself, you know, too often to

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just it's either you're not paying attention or you're still

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allowing the mainstream media to do your thinking for you.

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psychological conditioning and ideological subversion is at a level that

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celebrity and social media influence. I think this is where

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and efficient in this kind of psychological operation standpoint, and

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so I think it leads far too many people into

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embracing that that kind of it's really a pejorative sort

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of like the conspiracy theorist, theorist, the moniker that the

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CIA created to apply, utilizing the Mockingbird media to any

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dissenting voice who was questioning the outcome of the Warrant

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Commission report. Yeah, on the JFK assassination. Okay, well that's interesting.

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So now you're a conspiracy theorist, you might as well

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be a communist sympathizer like Lee Harvey Oswald. You're responsible,

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you know. It's like that's what they inevitably design it to.

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It's it's you're fighting against your own best interests at

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every turn. And I think the most there's.

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Speaker 1: A stigma about it. You're like, oh, yeah, I like

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I look into conspiracy theories and people like oh, but

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like so many people are like, oh, I like conspiracy theories.

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It's because people want to know the truth. They just

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don't know how to look for it without having that

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stigma on them, like, oh, conspiracy theories, like you're crazy,

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Like no, you just buy what they wanted to spy into.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely and socially conditioned through the public school system, which

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is truly not only a physical prism, but a psychological prism,

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and I think they're training you to no longer be

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able to even you know, engage in critical thinking right

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and let alone. I think it boils down to many

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overgrown children that I'm seeing as adults who never broke

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out of the social paradigm that was the high school

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you know, sort of mentality and structure, and that in

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itself became a popularity contest, is what it really is.

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And so if you embrace a narrative that rejects the

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power paradigm in such a radical way, that's terrifying to

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most people.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: And I kind of think that it's intended to be

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that way, because they want that over emotional, knee jerk

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reaction in order to bury their head deeper and further

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in the sand. But man, as they continue to reveal

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how sinister and statistic they truly are. In terms of

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these these pedophiles that are entirely controlled by sexual blackmail

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in Washington, d C. I mean, these are political puppets,

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in my opinion, and I think there are there's essentially

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an aristocratic sort of a power cabal that have been

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pulling those strings as the puppet, you know, puppet masters

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in terms of these political puppets, and they arrange them

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and trot them out in perfect moments to help escalate

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the division in domestic society and the culture war itself.

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And even something as simple as the Holly you know,

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the super Bowl halftime show, It's like everyone was already

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going into this either knowing they would hate it or

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knowing they would love it for all the wrong reasons.

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Speaker 1: Right, and then you have Turning Point USA that puts

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on their own halftime show. So now you have this division.

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Did you watch the super Bowl halftime show or the

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Turning Point US a halftime show? Are you with them

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or are you with us? It's like this, it's just

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a theater.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, yep, exactly what it is. And I think the

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two party paradigm has never been more obviously a false

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framework VI you know, where they essentially the pendulum swing

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is the effective dystopian agenda moving forward at all times,

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and they are, at the end of the day ultimately

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pursuing the same totalitarian goals. And so that's my biggest

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problem what I always try and significantly push back on.

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But I'm also never trying to make enemies for no

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apparent reason, and so I'm just trying to that's the

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main That's really why I focus on bringing receipts as

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much as I do, because it's like, man, you know,

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I don't want to have that dynamic or that moment

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of opportunity where a conflict could arise for what you know,

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It's like, I would rather spend my time with people

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who are acting in good faith and who are actually

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open minded and objectively pursuing the truth. And only then

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I think you can grow together and make each other

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better and become something more, you know, And that's my

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goal on a daily basis. But it's not about me.

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It's about Columbine. So I got to get back into it.

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But I will say the Psychological Operation Specialist score with

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the ADS BAB is fascinating to me. Sorry, but so

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as a BAB. The history of this test alone is

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basically based in MK ultra, which I didn't know, and

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it's so interesting that still, right, It's it's insane to

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me that that people aren't more aware of the level

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of influence, you know, and of of kind of just

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that overarching application of mind control in itself. And that's

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why it really does feel like one nation under mind

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control at a significant level, you know. But anyway, so

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the as FAB is a highly specialized DOOD personality assessment

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system test developed by Sydney Gottlieb's protege and the mk

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Ultra program's resident genius psychologist, John Gettinger. Right, so he

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happened to be on the CIA's payroll at the very

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time he designed the as Baptist Gettinger was apparently even

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involved as a former CIA sciot monitor of what was

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dubbed the safe House experiments, which I believe is when

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that individual was was dosed with LSD and then thrown

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out a window and they claimed that it was an

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accident and he committed suicide.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, was that one of the doctors? Yes, it was

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one of the They threw out the window, and then

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they're like, oh, he committed suicide because he started asking questions.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, and that's why they dosed them unknowingly with LSD

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during the time they murdered him and committed They just had.

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Speaker 1: A couple of times, right, So they went to like

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some cabin in the woods, and they dosed everybody at

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the cabin, like all these different scientists and doctors and.

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Speaker 2: People with LSD at a different times.

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Speaker 1: One of the same doctors was in a hotel and

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he got thrown out the window.

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Speaker 3: Yep. Isn't that crazy? So it's not staying in work

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being a CIA agent. It's crazy, I think just being

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associated with the agency. You're dancing with the devil, you know.

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But so, the ultimate purpose of the personality assessment system

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was to describe traits and predict behavior for MKL trom

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my control and military intelligence purposes. That's the entire origin

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project of the military assessment Personality assessment test. See, I

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don't even remember. I remember that I took it. My

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buddy joined the Navy, and we were just like, you know,

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romanticizing the ideas as dumb ignorant children, and uh, you know,

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oh we could travel all these places like you know,

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the recruiters just blowing smoke up. Did you probably a

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bunch of shittier that's so funny. So the apparently the

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ultimate purpose of this personality assessment system was to describe

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traits and predict behavior for these, as I said, military

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intelligence purposes. So you have the score for Psychological Operations

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Specialist being a higher than even US military counter intelligence applicants,

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so high asfab PAS scores and certain psychological profiles also

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seem to draw the interest of the CIA. So and

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this is why they have all these talent spotters in

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the domestic US, but not only there, you know, obviously internationally.

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I think that's what the Chips program very much was

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that Dylan Cleebold was a part of, you know, in

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his youth and childhood, which was just basically the basically

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the origin project of the Gifted Program, you know, to

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a certain level, which is obviously CIA. In my opinion,

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I think it's how you you know, attempt to recruit

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youthful assets, right which which fit a personality profile that

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would be perfect for Clindestine operations. And I think unfortunately

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they're preying upon our children at every level of this.

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This this is systematically entrenched in a real way for generations.

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And so in no way am I surprise to hear

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so many children and people that I know to this

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day who have told me and when they were members

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of the Gifted Program like they have you know, hard

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time remembering obviously all of us usually do in terms

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of childhood memories. But at the same time they have

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they struggle remembering exactly what happened, but they also seem

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to all tell the similar story of, Yeah, these two

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guys in black suits came and visited the school and

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I had to sit in a room with them and

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alone and have some sort of strange conversation which was

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obviously a personality assessment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you never know, an episode on the Gifted

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and Talented Program, and then I had a bunch of

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people reach out to me. You probably won't be surprised

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for this, but what I found really interesting is all

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these people that were, like I was for sure in

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the Gifted program, they now have jobs as like first

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responders like ems, police, lawyers, CPS or military like all

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the like, they're working for the government.

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Speaker 3: I exactly, which, Yeah, it would be a coincidence, but

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it's hard to Yeah, it's hard to say that at

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this point. But yeah, I think the ASPAB scores are

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crazy interesting. And as I described in my episode, in

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some kind of timic base style sheep dipped operation, Wade

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Michael Page would suspiciously be demoted for patterns of misconduct,

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including being drunk while on duty and going absent without leave,

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ultimately receiving a general discharge in nineteen ninety eight. Nineteen

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ninety eight it's so it sounds pretty complete.

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Speaker 1: Fake all of that too, Like it's so easy to

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be like like I have a story, but I don't

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want to tell it because it well, I know what

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a point. It paints some people in my life in

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a bad light, and I don't want them to feel. Oh, okay,

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I know a person they were gonna get They the

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official stories that they got kicked out of the Navy

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because they failed their pfas, which like basically like their

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fitness test, but there they actually got kicked out of

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the Navy, or they were actually getting separated from the

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Navy because of like drugs, but because they were sleeping

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with somebody higher up, they got a better discharge.

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Speaker 3: You can make. Absolutely, Yeah, that is an interesting story.

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But I think that's it's definitely valuable for people to

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understand that this is this is very plausible as far

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as how you would go about sheep dipping and creating

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a false background story for how a person would fail

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out and discharge, you know, be be receive a discharge,

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especially something like this, right like patterns of misconduct, like

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really he just went out on leave with you know,

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and and decided not to tell anyone and also got

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drunk on the base, Like who isn't getting drunk on

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the base, you know, but on duty? I guess it's

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a problem. Okay, I understand that, but very easy to

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make that up in a room, writing a false back

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around for someone who's going to become a domestic operative.

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And stage two, you know, Gladio sort of modern Gladio

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terrorism within the US. To further, it's the strategy of tension,

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you know. Further, I think it's deliberate destabilization is what

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they practice. So anyway, he leaves Fort Bragg in ninety

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eight and would rea okay to Lyttleton just before the

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column by massacre. So very convenience. And so again this

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is nine News that reported that Wade Michael Page also

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had a criminal record in Denver, so a Denver police

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had arrested Page in nineteen ninety nine for drunk driving,

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So okay. He was convicted of a duy in order

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to perform fifty six hours of community service in sixty

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days served in jail. However, according to court records, his

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jail sentence was suspended and he completed his community service

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requirement by serving a total of eighteen hours. He was

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also given a ticket for driving without a valid license

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in ninety nine and a Rapole County in Littleton, Colorado,

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so he pleads guilty to this charge. He also faces

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charges of driving when license is under restraint in El

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Paso County in two thousand, but that charge was later

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dis missed. So he has several different addresses that are

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listed to Wade Michael Page in the Littleton and Denver area.

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Most recently it was Littleton and seven. But after the

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Seak Temple shooting in twenty twelve, the very same year

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that James Holmes committed the Aurora, Colorado shooting, and then

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four months later you have Sandy Hook. Well, this is

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I think just a month before, maybe two months at most.

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I'll have to look at the date again, before Aurora

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or after. It was in July and then yea, it

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was June or July. I think it was July.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, because it was during summer bregulars, right

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before my senior year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, it's very eerily close to the same, you know,

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timing in terms of the dates of the occurrence. But

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I believe this Seak Temple shooting happened just after the fact.

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But anyway, so this woman in twenty twelve at the

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Seak Temple shooting. She identified herself as Paige's grandmother, and

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she told a reporter that Paige sent her a dozen

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roses just two weeks ago. That's the kind of guy

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he was, she said, I don't know what happened. So

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when the gunfired at the Seak Temple of Wisconsin and

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suburban Milwaukee ended, seven people were dead, including Wade Michael Page.

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Three others critically injured, and police called this an act

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of domestic terrorism. You had the wife of the temple's

475
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:40,440
president and apparently in the front row seeing the gunman

476
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,519
enter the temple. And this is also according to their nephew.

477
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:50,359
Apparently he didn't speak, he just began shooting. They relayed

478
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:54,759
a description of the attack from apparently that he was

479
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,920
six foot tall, bald, white man who worshipers said they

480
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,160
had never been before seen at the temple and also

481
00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:04,799
said seemed like he had a purpose and knew where

482
00:33:04,839 --> 00:33:09,559
he was going. So, yeah, it doesn't make any sense

483
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:14,240
that there's no motives associated to Wade Michael Page committing

484
00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:17,279
this terrorist act. Right, they try and act like he

485
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,920
was just a white supremacist, and that's what we get

486
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:25,519
into is how much of this strange footprint existed in

487
00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:30,359
Littleton in terms of this brotherhood of the White Temple

488
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,839
and the White Eagle underground. And then also apparently a

489
00:33:34,039 --> 00:33:39,400
neo Nazi supremacist organization called the hammer Skins, the Western

490
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:46,119
hammer Skins specifically, So this is apparently what Wade Michael

491
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,000
Page was involved with just after leaving Fort Bragg. So

492
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,039
the hammer Skins. Now, how much does this apply to

493
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,640
the Proud Boys? And remember the individual what was his name,

494
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,279
hammer Face or some bullshit, had like tats all over

495
00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:05,680
his face and was originally he staged like some crazy

496
00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:12,519
aggressive protest in with swastikas and everything. He had a

497
00:34:12,599 --> 00:34:16,960
swastikan his face I think, and in like Texas or something,

498
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,519
and it got huge backlash obviously because the left was outraged,

499
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,039
and which was the point, you know, And I think

500
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:29,880
it turns out he has ties of originally being a

501
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,280
member of the Azov Battalion in Ukraine, so he had

502
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:38,440
legitimately fought alongside Azov in Ukraine before coming back and

503
00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:44,440
running this major public protest politically on behalf of the

504
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,320
intelligence apparatus obviously is what's happening.

505
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: But there were ties like they were trying to tie

506
00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:56,239
Tim McVeigh to this town in Oklahoma, like two hours

507
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,880
away from Oklahoma City that was like a white supremacy town.

508
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was allegedly a safe haven for white supremacists.

509
00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: Right.

510
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm forgetting the name right now, but

511
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,880
it's important because it is one of the craziest stories

512
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:21,599
of Oklahoma City. Obviously, white supremacists say have in I know, dude,

513
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:23,599
it's on the It's on the tip of my tongue

514
00:35:23,679 --> 00:35:29,199
right now. Yeah, I know here, I'm gonna pull up

515
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,199
my okay, see bombing notes. That will be better because

516
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:38,039
I'm telling you it's uh, Ellowem City, that's it, Ellowhem City. Yeah,

517
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,559
and uh yeah, it was nothing but Fed's basically at

518
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:44,800
Elowheim City as well, right, and and that's not surprising.

519
00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:47,599
Speaker 1: It's like a cult.

520
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 3: Like Okay, Yeah, a lot of them believed in the

521
00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:58,360
Christian Identity movement allegedly, which is the the Vicky Weaver

522
00:35:58,599 --> 00:36:03,480
and Randy Weaver ideology that they practiced allegedly, and she

523
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,159
was apparently the spiritual leader of the family, VICKI. And

524
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,960
that's I think why Colonel Bogritz, who worked as the

525
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:16,280
negotiator who allegedly was, you know, Special Forces Green Bay,

526
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:22,559
green Beret commander who trained al Qaeda, who apparently trained

527
00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:29,360
the Afghan muja Hadeen in domestic black sites within the US. Right,

528
00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:34,159
that's fascinating in itself, that's real. He also claimed that

529
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,920
Jonestown was basically an mk Ultra operation gone wrong and

530
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,639
they used it as an opportunity. The reason that there

531
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,000
was a mounting a body count, and that they tried

532
00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:52,599
to act like the medical examiner in Guyana, doctor Leslie

533
00:36:52,639 --> 00:36:56,760
Mutsu was he was basically he couldn't count. Is Oh,

534
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,880
the Guyanese can't count. Uh, and so that's why there

535
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,880
are one hundred more bodies or whatever. You know, It's

536
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,440
like that's a little bit too significant, right. Oh, and

537
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,880
then they accidentally double counted bodies. And there's so much

538
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,639
bs in terms of them them essentially covering up Jonestown.

539
00:37:13,679 --> 00:37:16,760
But what he said was that MK Ultra they were

540
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,519
essentially utilizing Jonestown as an opportunity when it did go wrong,

541
00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:23,760
and that's why they lured down Congressman le O'Ryan, who

542
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,519
was a thorn in the side of the CIA at

543
00:37:25,519 --> 00:37:28,719
the time, who was effectively even like going under cover

544
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,280
and and uh, uh does that like that does not right?

545
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:34,599
Speaker 1: Do not understand that?

546
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 3: Isn't that fast? And he was so he was showing

547
00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:40,280
up in Langley at the CIA headquarters and going showed

548
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,880
me the files man like he was that guy.

549
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: It's good for him, you know what.

550
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm too bad they shot him, but.

551
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 3: Like, good for him, that's why they killed him. Yeah, unfortunately.

552
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,760
But he was the one who also said Patty Hurst

553
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,239
was was a product of being a victim of trauma

554
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,639
based mind controlling on k Ultra and that the Symbienese

555
00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:03,679
Liberal Army, the s l A was a create creation

556
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,320
of Sidney Gottlieb and the mk Ultra Black Sorcerer himself.

557
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,199
And that's what they say, and I believe it. I

558
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,679
did a whole episode on the Patty Hurst case. And

559
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,400
my god, if you look into uh the individual sink

560
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,639
you you know Donald Sink you to Freeze who allegedly

561
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:26,800
created the s l A. He was in uh basically

562
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:32,519
being experimented on with behavioral modification research and experimentation at

563
00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:36,639
an institution where Manson was housed the same It's it's

564
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:43,880
just ridiculous. And uh and they had this apparently they

565
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,880
had this huge problem with inmates just escaping.

566
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:51,519
Speaker 1: Sometimes.

567
00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 3: So they claimed that the California prison guard complex was

568
00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:00,559
essentially on the take and working on the half of

569
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,320
the intelligence apparatus at the time, and the mk Ultra

570
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,760
operatives had infiltrated this institution that they were housing many

571
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,320
of the victims in and then were they were experimenting

572
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,639
on them and then releasing them into the public and

573
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,239
they would just have the guards just let them out

574
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,360
overnight and then they would show up on a bus pass,

575
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,760
you know, fourteen hundred miles away in Texas and commit

576
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:24,480
a mass shooting.

577
00:39:25,639 --> 00:39:27,679
Speaker 2: I'm dead serious, all right, I'm not I'm gonna laugh

578
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:32,360
about this, but like it, it's so like something they

579
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:32,719
would do.

580
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 3: Right, So, I mean, when you already know that there

581
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,599
was a pipeline set up by an individual Phoenix operative

582
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:46,440
that helped basically procure the land for the Angolan rebels

583
00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:50,400
that became jonestown on behalf of the CIA. Yeah, that happened.

584
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,159
But anyway, you don't have to get into Larry Layton

585
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,559
and how you know the Layton family, which were you know,

586
00:39:59,679 --> 00:40:04,280
essential in charge of this psychological medical research and you

587
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:09,360
know this huge It's it's fascinating because Larry Layton was

588
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,320
basically working for a CIA cutout when he arranged the

589
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,920
purchase of the land for the People's Temple Agricultural Project

590
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,679
for Jim Jones. He was a CIA operative who worked

591
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,000
for the or ran the Angole and rebels for the

592
00:40:23,079 --> 00:40:26,559
CIA at that same property before you know, so interesting.

593
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,039
Speaker 1: I covered Jonestown as like like the official story just

594
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:33,760
to kind of explain what the cult was. But I

595
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,960
never like dived into it to find out like the conspiracies.

596
00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:39,079
I just was like, here because I had mentioned it

597
00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:40,519
in a couple episodes, so I was like, I should

598
00:40:40,519 --> 00:40:42,760
at least tell you guys, like the story of Jonestown.

599
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,519
So I put that out one week, but it wasn't

600
00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:46,400
like anything deep. I was literally just like, here's the

601
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,079
story as we know.

602
00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 3: It, right, I'm telling you it's It's just Jonestown. Jonestown

603
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,280
is the number one example that, at least for me,

604
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,679
that introduced me to the concept of They drove mk

605
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:05,360
ultra underground into these cult organizations and continued to carry

606
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,800
out these controlled test group studies and in a remote

607
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:15,119
jungle in Guyana, experimenting on a strange racial dynamic of

608
00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:20,320
a majority black community. Essentially as the members of the

609
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,199
People's Temple being victimized, and then all the leadership being

610
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,840
effectively white and members of the Red Brigade on top

611
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,719
of that, which is like essentially traces back to Gladio

612
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,360
and the Italian Gladio movement of the strategy of tension

613
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,039
happening there. With the Red Brigade communist force. They were

614
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:46,039
basically a Marxist communist mercenary organization, but they had ties

615
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:49,079
to intelligence. Yeah, it's fast I talk to you.

616
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: I have more work to do, and I'm working on

617
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:54,800
something big right now and now i have more things

618
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,000
to do.

619
00:41:56,159 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but I just think, honestly, it's it's hard

620
00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:03,920
not to mention all of this because I do think

621
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,800
it applies so much and helps reinforce what we already

622
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,039
sort of know, which is interesting. And I think when

623
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,639
the Congressman le O'Ryan's aid got a call from his

624
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,360
name is William Holsinger and he gets a call threatening

625
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,719
phone call just before the news goes public of Congressman

626
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:27,039
le O'Ryan's death in Guyana, and so this is so

627
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:32,840
interesting and became public because the wife of Congressman Leo

628
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,159
Ryan's aid, she receives three threatening phone calls, and the

629
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,079
caller allegedly said, tell your husband that his meal ticket

630
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:46,920
just had his brains blown out and he better be careful, right,

631
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:53,119
Isn't that crazy? So all of these psychoactive mind controlled

632
00:42:53,159 --> 00:42:56,480
drugs were found on the site in Guyana, and allegedly

633
00:42:57,599 --> 00:43:01,400
that that medical facility in Guyana was state of the

634
00:43:01,559 --> 00:43:06,039
art and far more sophisticated than anything else on the property,

635
00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:10,159
and allegedly had been there long before the People's Temple

636
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,119
located to this area. And so it turns out and

637
00:43:13,199 --> 00:43:17,400
the British Black Watch, the you know, mercenary force, they were,

638
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,679
they just so happened to be running some sort of

639
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,119
what was it a not a simulation, but some kind

640
00:43:26,199 --> 00:43:29,719
of it was, yeah, yeah, exercise of some kind in

641
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:35,679
the area whenever the the revolutionary mass suicide took place, right,

642
00:43:36,559 --> 00:43:41,360
But yeah, seemingly a lot of different people were fleeing

643
00:43:41,679 --> 00:43:47,159
from Jonestown into the jungle and got shot, right, and

644
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,960
Green Berets were very soon on the site. And allegedly

645
00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:55,400
that was the part that I had some leftist progressive

646
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,880
journalists get very upset about because I mentioned that a

647
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,800
Green Beret had gone on the record claiming that He

648
00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:03,920
was a part of the team flown into Jonestown that

649
00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:06,719
day and they were ordered he said, they were ordered

650
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:07,639
to shoot on site.

651
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,679
Speaker 1: So wild they were trying to cover that up. We

652
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:13,639
need to shut up stow.

653
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 3: Yep. He described it as people running up to the

654
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,440
helicopter before it even landed, and he and his fellow

655
00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:25,880
individuals in the unit opened fire and killed them before

656
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:32,440
they landed. Interesting, that's why so many of the bodies

657
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,519
had had bullet wounds and didn't only you know, allegedly

658
00:44:36,679 --> 00:44:40,039
die from cyanide poisoning. And by the way, the cyanide

659
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:43,679
poisoning looks like the bodies were turned over, staged and

660
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,239
had injection marks on the back, so they couldn't have

661
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,840
injected themselves. And I guess it is plausible that other

662
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,960
members of the community were injecting their fellow members. That's plausible,

663
00:44:55,039 --> 00:44:55,400
I guess.

664
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 2: But it's just like you see a couple of people die,

665
00:44:58,920 --> 00:44:59,519
you're like, h.

666
00:45:01,639 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 3: You know what else. Many people were claiming that the

667
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,079
punch itself was because they claimed they drank the kool aid.

668
00:45:08,159 --> 00:45:11,119
It was actually flavor aid, all right, this was an

669
00:45:11,159 --> 00:45:14,559
off brand. These are communists, dude, These are communists. They're

670
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:19,760
not buying kool aid, you know, that's real though, and uh,

671
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,000
and apparently they were buying this flavor aid and that's

672
00:45:23,039 --> 00:45:26,239
allegedly what the cyanide was was, you know, put in,

673
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,679
which does none of this really follows the science in

674
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,880
any real way as far as the evidence is concerned.

675
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:38,679
But they say that potentially the punch was was drugged

676
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:41,719
and that the vast majority of the of the members

677
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:47,639
were unconscious whenever they were injected with cyanide, which makes

678
00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:51,519
a lot more sense because then they wouldn't be struggling, right,

679
00:45:51,639 --> 00:45:56,599
And then also people who were apparently rejecting and resisting, uh,

680
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,519
they would we were effectively shot and executed and and

681
00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:06,400
also potentially forcefully drugged beforehand. And so that yeah, that's

682
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,199
what a lot of the just as far as the

683
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,559
what doctor Leslie Moutu had claimed as far as the

684
00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:16,199
medical examiner, and that's why I think they tried to

685
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,360
undermine his credibility and claimed that the rising death toll

686
00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:25,079
was due to the Guyanese being unable to apparently, yeah,

687
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:30,039
conductor count. But obviously in the minds of the of

688
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,320
the American public, it's like, oh, yeah, these backwoods, you know,

689
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,639
a third world country retards don't the account.

690
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,079
Speaker 1: I'd love to do all the examinations of our guys,

691
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,639
which was fine, but they don't not count.

692
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then all the bodies were never returned to

693
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,199
their families and they were actually most of them were

694
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:57,280
incinerated right at a military morgue basically, and you also

695
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,079
had some of them just go missing and be discovered

696
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:06,639
years later, misidentified and allegedly a part of the Johnstown

697
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:07,239
death list.

698
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: That sounds a lot like Pat Price.

699
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 3: You know that the assassin James Earl Ray, the assassin

700
00:47:18,199 --> 00:47:22,719
of the alleged assassin of MLK, right, Yeah, his So

701
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,360
the wife of James Earl Ray's landlord was a key

702
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:32,239
witness who apparently it was an eyewitness who saw the

703
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,440
individual run down with the rifle and uh and also

704
00:47:36,679 --> 00:47:39,599
escaped the apartment after they had gotten up on the

705
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,920
whatever and shot MLK from a window. And it turns

706
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:51,559
out that she effectively gets institutionalized just before she's supposed

707
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:55,039
to be the key witness in this assassination. And then

708
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,800
as she's institutional institutionalized, she's lost in the system. Oh

709
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:03,239
and so then she gets a defense attorney who she

710
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,840
moves in with and lives with for a time and

711
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,599
he actually inevitably writes a book about Jonestown. And this

712
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,880
man has direct connections to the CIA. And it turns

713
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:17,639
out that uh, what was her name, uh something Golden,

714
00:48:18,679 --> 00:48:23,960
something Golden. I forget her name now, but Grace, Grace Walden,

715
00:48:24,159 --> 00:48:26,519
that was it, Grace Walden. Sorry I messed up the

716
00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:29,920
g But anyway, her name was Grace Walden and she

717
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:33,880
was the key witness. She gets institutionalized and then she disappears.

718
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,000
Her body was found at Jonestown amongst the dead.

719
00:48:39,519 --> 00:48:44,159
Speaker 1: What an easy way to clean up? They're like, oh,

720
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,840
it was a colt, you know. They thought they were

721
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,079
like gonna go to a different universe like the Aliens are.

722
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:49,679
Speaker 3: It was.

723
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: It was just a cult and they all just killed themselves.

724
00:48:53,199 --> 00:48:57,679
Speaker 3: Isn't that ridiculous? Now? This is why I think what

725
00:48:58,159 --> 00:49:01,639
Colonel Bougritz had to say, you know, about his theory

726
00:49:01,679 --> 00:49:05,599
on Johnstown. And again he's the negotiator hostage negotiator at

727
00:49:05,679 --> 00:49:11,840
Ruby Ridge allegedly personally knew Randy Weaver. Now he was

728
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:17,119
a Special Forces operative right as far as now from

729
00:49:17,159 --> 00:49:22,440
what I heard when I was doing further research on Waco. Allegedly,

730
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,440
Randy Weaver and David Koresh were named as potential assets

731
00:49:28,519 --> 00:49:31,639
of a manteraranean candidate program through the green Berat system,

732
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:35,000
and basically this is what happened with Tim McVay as well.

733
00:49:35,159 --> 00:49:38,159
And so they were saying that they had assets that

734
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,039
were activated in the domestic us just in general public life,

735
00:49:42,519 --> 00:49:47,639
and we're going about their their essential programming. But then

736
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:50,519
because of the shelf life of the programming of the

737
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:55,639
mk Ultra, they were effectively waking up to their programming

738
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,239
and therefore derailing some of what they were supposed to

739
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,760
continue on doing. And that is why basically they claimed

740
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:08,559
that members of the leadership of the Branch Davidians surrounding

741
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:13,199
David Koresh were also mind controlled assets, and that they

742
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,320
had members of the Branch Davidians actually creating some I

743
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,800
forget the name of the style of bomb, this explosive

744
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,400
device that they were allegedly going to try and use

745
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,880
in a domestic bombing, which this is leading up to. Okay, see,

746
00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:31,280
very strange that that would be said at all, you know.

747
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,119
Speaker 1: So, Okay, I'm going to tie back to Columbine here

748
00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:35,119
for a secon because I had a question.

749
00:50:35,199 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Waco and.

750
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:44,159
Speaker 1: Ruby Ridge and okay see, they all happen on April

751
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,679
nineteenth to commemorate like Ruby Ridge. Right, so Ruby Ridge

752
00:50:48,679 --> 00:50:52,159
happens on April nineteenth, or no, excuse me, ruby Ridge doesn't.

753
00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:55,760
Waco happens on April nineteen, and then okay, see happens

754
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,920
on April nineteenth to like bring awareness, is what they say.

755
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 3: Well, then I think it's Waco Ruby Ridge, and okay see,

756
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:03,480
I think.

757
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: No Ridge happened earlier. Ruby Ridge is just connected because of.

758
00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, ruby Ridge happened first.

759
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,159
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, it happened first, but it didn't happen.

760
00:51:14,199 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 3: Met Ruby Ridge Waco and then okay see, I'm pretty

761
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,000
sure that is how it goes, right.

762
00:51:18,119 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, So then okay, see happened on April nineteenth, because

763
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,320
that's the when the Waco massacre happened because they had

764
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,079
already been like they had been in the like the

765
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:31,719
standoff with the atf FBI for months or for like

766
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:37,000
how many days. Well, then they say that Columbine happened

767
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,599
on the twentieth to also like for the anniversary of Waco,

768
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,840
But that doesn't make sense because it wasn't the twentieth

769
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,679
the seite like that Tuesday. So then they could have

770
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,039
done April nineteenth, which was the Monday.

771
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 3: Right, and I think there there was a case where

772
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,480
I think it was Carl doctor Carl Rashki claimed that

773
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:03,360
that was all the dialogue and communication correspondence between individuals

774
00:52:04,599 --> 00:52:09,079
that apparently of special forces and things of that nature

775
00:52:09,159 --> 00:52:12,880
with intelligence backgrounds. There was a lot of different reports

776
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,880
claiming that April nineteenth was supposed to be today, but

777
00:52:17,079 --> 00:52:20,199
it was moved off for some specific and certain reason.

778
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,960
And I can't remember exactly why. I'll pull that note

779
00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:25,119
here in a second, because I do think it's important,

780
00:52:25,559 --> 00:52:29,840
and especially what Karl Rashki said specifically, because you know,

781
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,800
again he was saying that there was prior to knowledge

782
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,400
and that this was very much you know, structured, and

783
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,800
just as far as the event itself being staged, right,

784
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,360
is very much what he was alluding to, which I

785
00:52:45,559 --> 00:52:49,400
find to be far more plausible than what we're led

786
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,960
to believe. And I will only mention the final point

787
00:52:53,039 --> 00:52:55,199
on as far as bogue Ritz and what he said

788
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,159
on Jonestown, because I do think it's fascinating and it

789
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,199
ties back to everything that you know, as far as

790
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,599
them using it as an opportunity to get rid of

791
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,360
legitimate bodies and victims who you know. Again, it's like

792
00:53:09,079 --> 00:53:12,800
what he claims was potentially the case. And so James

793
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:18,039
Gordon Gritz, former United States Army Special Forces officer, worked

794
00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:21,440
in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Following his

795
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:25,000
formal retirement at the rank of lieutenant colonel in seventy nine.

796
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,159
He trained the Afghan Mujahadeen on military basis in America

797
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,440
on behalf of the government convenience. So, in an interview

798
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,840
that he was promoting his book, I'm pretty sure that

799
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,960
was called Called to Serve and a Nation Betrayed, two

800
00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:44,320
separate books, and it was in ninety five, he said, specifically,

801
00:53:44,519 --> 00:53:47,519
quote a few weeks ago, there was a report out

802
00:53:47,559 --> 00:53:51,320
of Montreal about people winning cases against the CIA because

803
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,880
they were utterly abused in the mental health clinic that

804
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,440
was set up by the CIA in Canada. That all

805
00:53:57,559 --> 00:54:00,280
came down under Alan Doles, who tried to make a

806
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:05,199
Manchurian candidate. I think the Jonestown incident was an extension

807
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:10,039
of in search of the Manchurian candidate. I think those

808
00:54:10,159 --> 00:54:13,000
people were conditioned to act in certain ways and would

809
00:54:13,039 --> 00:54:16,760
have probably just moved from Montreal to Guyana. In this case,

810
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,840
you look at Jim Jones' background carefully. He had a

811
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,280
lot of intelligence contacts there for doing exactly what he did.

812
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:30,920
Interviewer questioned, did it go haywire? Of course it went haywire.

813
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,079
God be praised. Just like the Montreal Montreal Health Institute,

814
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,159
it self destructs because it's not good in its essence.

815
00:54:41,159 --> 00:54:44,519
Most of these folks involved were street people, so they

816
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:47,480
didn't have people who knew where they were or were

817
00:54:47,519 --> 00:54:51,440
concerned about their well being. It escalated once they killed

818
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,639
Congressman le O Ryan. Basically they had no other way

819
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,039
to go, so they just tried to self destruct the

820
00:54:57,079 --> 00:55:00,559
whole mission, and that means the death of hundreds of people.

821
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,199
As I point out in the book, the medical examiner

822
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:08,199
there made some startling statements, and we wouldn't even allow

823
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,960
the bodies to be properly examined when they were brought

824
00:55:11,079 --> 00:55:14,719
back to the East Coast and turned in, so obviously

825
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,280
it was a cover up. Jonestown I think was an

826
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,440
extension of mk Ultra from the CIA, and there are

827
00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:27,159
probably other experiments going on. Alan Dolls is dead, but

828
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,559
that doesn't mean that the idea of controlling people's minds

829
00:55:30,639 --> 00:55:34,119
and behavior is dead. And I still think that is

830
00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:39,719
a goal. Jaballas is quan right, that's amazing, And he

831
00:55:40,119 --> 00:55:45,559
legitimately was absolutely he was the negotiator at Ruby Ridge

832
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,920
who claimed have witnessed at the they called when they

833
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,440
staged that military escalation at Ruby Ridge, which is basically

834
00:55:55,519 --> 00:55:58,920
what it was. They set up camps. It looked like

835
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,480
a military in camp. Uh. They called it Camp Vicki

836
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,800
after they shot her to death with a baby infant

837
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:11,239
in her arms. Right, So then they would get on

838
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,559
the loud speaker and yell at the kids and and

839
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,480
Randy in the house and they would say, Hey, Vicky,

840
00:56:17,519 --> 00:56:18,599
what's for breakfast?

841
00:56:20,599 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 1: We didn't know that we shot her.

842
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 3: He didn't know we shot her. We didn't know she

843
00:56:24,519 --> 00:56:24,840
was dead.

844
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:32,599
Speaker 1: They had that same sniper he was at Waco on.

845
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 3: Lori Ucci confirmed kills at Waco. Man and he's an

846
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:41,079
Asian sniper. He's like, it's like some honestly, it's crazy

847
00:56:41,159 --> 00:56:45,719
to see like some some international footprint of using the

848
00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:49,639
operatives you know, from from overseas to commit and stage

849
00:56:49,679 --> 00:56:53,440
domestic terrorism in the US. I mean, they gassed the

850
00:56:53,559 --> 00:56:57,280
people in Waco also, and and that's why I think

851
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,960
it was a neurotoxin and they were paralyn so they

852
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,239
couldn't even move. That was the point. And they claimed

853
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,880
that when they went in, they executed them at point

854
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,400
blank range with weapons, right the special forces unit that

855
00:57:12,519 --> 00:57:16,480
went in, they had a joint intelligence operation where you

856
00:57:16,599 --> 00:57:20,920
had foreign intelligence leaders on the ground at Waco just

857
00:57:21,079 --> 00:57:24,719
seeing what would happen. How does that not sound like

858
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,440
I mean, let alone the standoff and the you know,

859
00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:32,159
the siege of the Branch Davidians where they're playing music

860
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:33,159
like they're playing on.

861
00:57:33,239 --> 00:57:38,079
Speaker 2: The signers, Yeah, like the whites and the music and.

862
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 3: Like rabbits being slaughtered, Buddhist chanting, like psychological warfare, you know.

863
00:57:45,039 --> 00:57:49,159
And then they were they also pulled the electricity right

864
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,079
just after they allowed milk to be delivered so it

865
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:54,960
would go bad. Talk about dealing in bad faith with

866
00:57:55,039 --> 00:57:57,880
the people you claim to be negotiating with, you know,

867
00:57:59,039 --> 00:57:59,360
having a.

868
00:57:59,519 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: Single documentary or anytime, because they remake it all the time,

869
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,480
and they try to play it off, like the FBI

870
00:58:09,599 --> 00:58:11,280
and the ATF like even if they're like the bad

871
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,559
guys in the documentary and they're like no, like it

872
00:58:13,679 --> 00:58:15,719
was fine, like they were trying to do the right thing.

873
00:58:17,559 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous and I'm telling you it's like there were

874
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,239
more than just atf FBI. I think there was a

875
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,440
special forces unit there that day, and that they legitimately

876
00:58:26,599 --> 00:58:29,480
did gass those people, and they set the fire on purpose,

877
00:58:29,559 --> 00:58:31,920
and you know it's like after you see the ferret

878
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,280
rounds from the tank that they shoved in there, and

879
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,679
then they knew would ignite, you know, after they spread

880
00:58:38,719 --> 00:58:42,719
the gas. I mean, at every level, they destroyed those

881
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:47,440
people lives and the notion that they negotiated some of

882
00:58:47,519 --> 00:58:50,559
the release of some of the kids and older people,

883
00:58:51,039 --> 00:58:52,920
and then as they come out, they put them in

884
00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:56,119
chains and they trot them out in front of the

885
00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:00,880
Branch Davidian Complex as hostages right to try and force

886
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,360
the rest to come out. I mean, they couldn't have

887
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,239
handled that any worse. But obviously I could talk about

888
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:12,599
Waco forever as well. But yeah, I think it's probably

889
00:59:12,679 --> 00:59:17,559
better to just get back in the Columbine because I'm sorry,

890
00:59:17,559 --> 00:59:19,760
I can't help myself sometimes, but I will.

891
00:59:19,719 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: Say, it is really all connected, so it's really important

892
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,239
that like we touch on the other things because it's

893
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:25,840
so crupped.

894
00:59:26,639 --> 00:59:31,159
Speaker 3: And I did mention the Phoenix program operative. His name

895
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,920
was Colston Westbrook, was his name, and he was involved apparently,

896
00:59:35,159 --> 00:59:37,280
and I forget the name of the operation, it's a

897
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,440
very strange name, but it was a part of the

898
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:45,119
Angle of Rebel CIA operation with that same remote location

899
00:59:45,239 --> 00:59:50,159
in Guyana that he apparently was working through that area

900
00:59:50,719 --> 00:59:54,000
after helping procure that land to train the Angle and

901
00:59:54,079 --> 00:59:57,960
rebels for the CIA there, and that later became the

902
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:02,079
People's Temple Agricultural Project and Jim Jones moved there. But

903
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,239
he would then come back from his Phoenix program my

904
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:13,719
Control experimentation to become a fake professor at the University

905
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,920
UC Berkeley. Oh Okay. So he then sets up a

906
01:00:18,039 --> 01:00:23,679
pipeline from UC Berkeley for students to go to this

907
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,440
psychological institution where they house Donald sink You to Freeze

908
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:31,719
and we're conducting mk ultra experiments on the inmates. Yeah,

909
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,480
they had a student program set up a pipeline from

910
01:00:35,519 --> 01:00:40,039
the university to the institution where it turns out Patty

911
01:00:40,159 --> 01:00:43,000
Hurst had been going and meeting with Donald Sink You

912
01:00:43,119 --> 01:00:46,400
to Freeze before she allegedly even knew him, and he

913
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:54,440
escaped and kidnapped her. I'll tell you it's so crazy,

914
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,320
it's just all coincidence. But to take it back, to Columbine.

915
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,880
We have Wade Michael Page, which we still have to

916
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,400
finish this point because again it's his background as well,

917
01:01:05,559 --> 01:01:12,480
like his pilgrimage following Following Columbine specifically is very interesting

918
01:01:12,559 --> 01:01:17,719
and Strange's he inevitably starts infiltrating and joining these groups

919
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:23,519
that you know are affiliated with white supremacist neo Nazi organizations.

920
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:29,679
Reportedly a member of the Western Hammerskins. So the Hammerskins

921
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,199
were formed in nineteen ninety eight in Dallas, Texas, and

922
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,440
they had a primary focus in the production of promotion

923
01:01:36,679 --> 01:01:41,960
of white power rock music. So you have many white

924
01:01:42,039 --> 01:01:45,880
power bands also being promoted obviously through this and their

925
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:50,440
affiliation with the group, and so the Hammerskins were directly

926
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,559
affiliated with the record label nine Percent Productions. Now this

927
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:59,880
comes up later, So nine percent Productions glows like the Sun.

928
01:02:00,599 --> 01:02:03,599
I believe it was an intelligence cutout construct to help

929
01:02:03,679 --> 01:02:08,239
influence white supremacist music within the culture of the domestic

930
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,159
us and it was a perfect moment. It was coming

931
01:02:11,199 --> 01:02:14,480
in in eighty eight if you consider the rise of

932
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:21,320
the pat Con operation and obviously infiltrating right wing militia

933
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,679
groups and organizations in order to stage domestic terrorist operations

934
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:29,400
to then provide yourself with the justification and pretext as

935
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,679
the government and establishment to crack down on that very

936
01:02:33,199 --> 01:02:38,239
alleged threat that you legitimately constructed and created yourself, which

937
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,880
is just you know, the dystopian you know, totalitarian tiptoe.

938
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,760
As I've said many times, thank you David Ike for that,

939
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,159
you know, because that's at least one of the things

940
01:02:49,199 --> 01:02:53,719
I've always respected about him, is that specific statement of

941
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,800
the totalitarian tiptoe, because I do think it's such a

942
01:02:58,719 --> 01:03:03,679
disa poignant statement in terms of the Dystopian agenda and

943
01:03:04,039 --> 01:03:08,840
how it's consistently moving in the wrong direction right and

944
01:03:09,639 --> 01:03:14,199
the vast majority seem unable to wake up and reflect

945
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,159
on that and understand the true power paradigm as it

946
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:22,119
is structured in its modern form. But anyway, this group

947
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:27,800
nine Percent Productions. They hosted several annual concerts, including Hammerfest

948
01:03:28,599 --> 01:03:31,320
and annual events in both the US and Europe in

949
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:36,480
honor of deceased Hammerskin Joe Rowan. Rowan the lead singer

950
01:03:36,559 --> 01:03:41,639
of the band Nordic Thunder. So instantly I think neo pagan,

951
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:46,119
we have a pagan connection here that falls into so

952
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,719
many the nine A right order of nine angles. So

953
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:54,360
many of these accelerationist groups that do seemingly provide an

954
01:03:54,360 --> 01:04:00,280
avenue for diabolical influence in terms of the mash hing

955
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:04,880
phenomena that has you know, very much been probably designed

956
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:09,199
and well constructed, but Nordic thunder. Instantly, I thought, okay,

957
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,440
we're dealing with pagans, right, which I also have to

958
01:04:13,519 --> 01:04:18,000
say that on Tuesday have already dead. We had we

959
01:04:18,119 --> 01:04:22,039
basically had the chat flooded with Satanist Neil paganists, and

960
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:27,400
it was very uncomfortable and unsettling as well. And I

961
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,639
will also say that for some strange reason, this little

962
01:04:31,719 --> 01:04:34,639
glowing spook by the name of Manny Grossman, who's like

963
01:04:34,719 --> 01:04:39,039
a Netflix star, who's you know, as a just an

964
01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:42,199
inflated ego of some kind. But also I think that's

965
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,800
in terms of the influence of his family dynamic in

966
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:51,159
a way, because apparently his father was key in the

967
01:04:51,239 --> 01:04:54,440
New York Police Department, in the NYPD in the nineteen

968
01:04:54,519 --> 01:04:57,639
seventy well during the Son of Sam case, right yeah,

969
01:04:57,719 --> 01:05:00,960
and with David Burkewitz. And it turns out that his

970
01:05:01,079 --> 01:05:04,639
father had intelligence connections and was actually helping facilitate the

971
01:05:04,719 --> 01:05:08,800
cover up within the NYPD at the time, so to

972
01:05:09,239 --> 01:05:15,440
make certain they would pin this as a loan perpetrator, right,

973
01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:19,719
being David Burkewitz, and no overarching network or cult group

974
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:25,480
that existed, say, you know, ritualistically sacrificing children in Untermeyer Park. No,

975
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:32,400
they wouldn't do that. So this guy's father, Grossman's father

976
01:05:32,639 --> 01:05:36,280
was legitimately in charge of helping facilitate this cover up

977
01:05:36,559 --> 01:05:41,159
in New York during that time. So Dana from the

978
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:46,159
Process What is the Process podcast, Dana Dudah, she's pretty great.

979
01:05:46,639 --> 01:05:51,519
She basically was being harassed by this guy as well

980
01:05:51,639 --> 01:05:54,119
for quite a while. And then when I didn't know

981
01:05:54,239 --> 01:05:57,480
this until I dropped my Son of basically my processed

982
01:05:57,559 --> 01:06:00,920
Church of the Final Judgment episode through the ends of

983
01:06:01,039 --> 01:06:04,599
the Son of Sam case, particularly with Mariy Terry's Ultimate

984
01:06:04,679 --> 01:06:08,320
eval as one of the inspiring works. You know, obviously,

985
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:12,559
but I feel like this individual's lot in life is

986
01:06:12,679 --> 01:06:16,320
to attempt to discredit and undermine the credibility of Moriy Terry.

987
01:06:16,639 --> 01:06:18,840
And it's very very obvious that that is the case.

988
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:24,280
And so somehow within the past few weeks he just

989
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,719
started harassing me again out of nowhere, because he first

990
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:34,039
was showing himself when I dropped that original episode, and

991
01:06:34,079 --> 01:06:36,719
then yeah, like three weeks ago, he's in the comments

992
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:40,000
and saying, how did you get that information about my father?

993
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,079
You're one hundred percent full of shit?

994
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: And then, which you know, is like I'm on the right.

995
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 3: Track exactly, I'm like okay. And so then like a

996
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:53,239
few days later, there's another comment and it's on like

997
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,880
an episode from six months ago at least, which nowhere

998
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,039
in the title it was a morning dump episode. I

999
01:06:59,159 --> 01:07:03,079
was still doing it with joy and and yeah, there

1000
01:07:03,199 --> 01:07:05,840
was no context as to why he would have like

1001
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,880
found that and uh dove in understanding we would have

1002
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,559
gone there. But still he had the audacity to say

1003
01:07:13,599 --> 01:07:16,960
something there and and then post on his own YouTube

1004
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,519
basically a demand that we respond one of the like

1005
01:07:21,079 --> 01:07:23,840
Dana and your friends at the underclass and I'm just like,

1006
01:07:24,119 --> 01:07:29,079
my god, these It's so the point being, is that right?

1007
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,199
And the point being though, is that I really, legitimately

1008
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:37,079
do there believe there's a playbook being practiced and implemented

1009
01:07:37,199 --> 01:07:41,400
where you have little glowing spooks that follow around the

1010
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:45,280
individual content creators, dissenting voices, whatever the case may be,

1011
01:07:46,119 --> 01:07:49,840
attempting to you know, seed clouds of doubt in a

1012
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:57,400
way as well as Yeah, it's just a strange, strange technique,

1013
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,320
but I'm I'm I'm seeing it play out in real time.

1014
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,760
And and so I have to say beware of the

1015
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:13,199
neopagan Satanist spooks out there, because they exist. But anyway,

1016
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,960
I wouldn't well, yeah, I shouldn't talk about this, dude anymore, honestly.

1017
01:08:17,039 --> 01:08:21,000
But the point being is that Nordic thunder, right, these Pagans,

1018
01:08:21,319 --> 01:08:24,399
That's what triggered the memory obviously of this week. But

1019
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:30,119
so you have and I think the Delphi murders whenever

1020
01:08:30,199 --> 01:08:35,000
I covered that because specifically involves the Vinlander group and

1021
01:08:35,239 --> 01:08:41,359
these neopagan organizations that legitimately are are committing murder, you know,

1022
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:46,680
ritualistic murders, right, And and yeah, you have many individuals

1023
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,760
who are among this strange ideology and subgroup that find

1024
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:56,560
the need to overwhelmingly defend this belief system. And man,

1025
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,920
all I'm saying is is, if you're worshiping ancient deities

1026
01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:05,239
like these pagan gods, I just think you're dancing with

1027
01:09:05,319 --> 01:09:08,520
the devil. I think this is a structured system to

1028
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,000
help rob you of your soul. And if you want

1029
01:09:11,039 --> 01:09:14,279
to play that game, you'll find yourself in a very

1030
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:18,680
strange place, and I don't think it'll be inevitably be

1031
01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:22,680
a good position to be in my opinion. But what

1032
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,960
do you know. I think the spiritual battle is a

1033
01:09:26,119 --> 01:09:30,319
major component here that all of us should acknowledge. But yeah, So,

1034
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:35,680
the ADL describes the Hammer Skins as the United States

1035
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:40,840
best organized neo Nazi skinhead group. The extraordinary level of

1036
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,560
federal involvement with the group has been very well documented.

1037
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,800
We know that Paige was in Littleton, Colorado, in nineteen

1038
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,960
ninety nine. We also know that in two thousand, with

1039
01:09:52,079 --> 01:09:55,560
no known source of income, Wade Michael Page suddenly left

1040
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:59,960
Littleton on a cross country trip, visiting friends and attending

1041
01:10:00,159 --> 01:10:05,479
festivals in Georgia, North Carolina, Ohio, West Virginia, and California.

1042
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:10,039
According to a statement that was allegedly made by Wade

1043
01:10:10,079 --> 01:10:13,760
Michael Page himself regarding his abrupt departure from Littleton just

1044
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:19,279
after Columbine quote, I am originally from Colorado and had

1045
01:10:19,319 --> 01:10:22,800
always been independent, but back in two thousand, I set

1046
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,600
out to get involved and wanted to basically start over.

1047
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,640
So I sold everything I owned except for my motorcycle

1048
01:10:30,039 --> 01:10:32,479
and what I could fit into a backpack and went

1049
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:36,119
on a cross country trip, visiting friends and attending festivals

1050
01:10:36,159 --> 01:10:40,159
and shows. I went to Hammerfest two thousand and Georgia,

1051
01:10:40,319 --> 01:10:44,439
over to North Carolina, up to Ohio, down to West Virginia,

1052
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:48,119
and out to California. And that's when I joined young Land.

1053
01:10:49,319 --> 01:10:54,560
Columbine High School located six two zero one South Pierce Street, Littleton.

1054
01:10:55,039 --> 01:10:58,880
Page's address was five five two nine South Windermere Street,

1055
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:03,560
Apartment twenty three in Littleton, four point eight miles away

1056
01:11:04,079 --> 01:11:09,640
from Columbine, four point six miles from Blackjack Pizza, and

1057
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:14,319
about six point three miles from Eric Harris's home six

1058
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:18,640
sixty six. Isn't that interesting? Wait?

1059
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:20,520
Speaker 1: His home address is sixty sixty six.

1060
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,520
Speaker 3: It's all three of these, as far as the four

1061
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:28,279
addresses that I just mentioned you have, Okay, yeah, okay,

1062
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:31,600
it's just interesting. Yeah, it's very interesting to me. But

1063
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,359
still you never you never know. I just found it,

1064
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,960
like the three hundred and thirty gallons of sulfuric acid

1065
01:11:38,079 --> 01:11:41,520
that the Epstein Estate apparently purchased for the island the

1066
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:45,039
day the FBI opened the investigation into the pedophile network

1067
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:50,439
HMM thirty three, three hundred and thirty it could be

1068
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:55,319
an accident. Six six barrels of sulfuric. Yeah, I know,

1069
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,439
it's a three hundred and thirty three hours, thirty three

1070
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,119
minutes on the Columbine tape, you know, as far as

1071
01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:06,079
the yeah, theah CAFETERI. I'm telling you it's difficult to

1072
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,680
chalk it up to that at a certain point. But

1073
01:12:09,279 --> 01:12:13,960
I won't linger on that obviously speculation, but I will

1074
01:12:14,039 --> 01:12:18,800
say that the Denver police, they refused to release the

1075
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:22,760
nineteen ninety nine mug shot of Wade Michael Page, saying

1076
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:27,159
the FBI in Wisconsin police asked them not to. Perhaps

1077
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,880
it is because the picture will show Wade Michael Page

1078
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:35,399
with short, spiky black hair with blonde tips, the exact

1079
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:40,079
same description as the missing seventh older adult male Columbine

1080
01:12:40,119 --> 01:12:45,279
shooter identified by forty plus people in public court documents,

1081
01:12:46,119 --> 01:12:50,239
so Page perfectly fit the profile. Reportedly had close ties

1082
01:12:50,319 --> 01:12:53,319
to both the Trench Cote Mafia and the Western Hammerskins.

1083
01:12:54,119 --> 01:12:57,199
The trench Coat Mafia often met at Blackjack Pizza, where

1084
01:12:57,239 --> 01:13:00,680
both Eric and Dylan worked, and they bought nick weapons,

1085
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,359
even experimenting with piot bombs at the at the pizza

1086
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:07,359
restaurant suspiciously in the days leading up to the Seat

1087
01:13:07,399 --> 01:13:11,279
Temple shooting. Wade Michael Page had a downstairs neighbor named

1088
01:13:11,319 --> 01:13:15,520
Jennifer Dunn. She happened to be a psychiatric nurse. She

1089
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:19,640
described him as hidden away in a small upstairs apartment

1090
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:24,239
in Kuda Hey, Wisconsin, where he became a nervous, creepy,

1091
01:13:24,399 --> 01:13:29,319
quiet recluse. She also claimed that his only visitor was

1092
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:34,000
the local pizza delivery man. I still think that's so funny.

1093
01:13:34,039 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: I'll just so like so specific too, his only visitor,

1094
01:13:38,199 --> 01:13:40,600
Like why would you say it like that?

1095
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 3: Why would you say it like every now and then he.

1096
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:48,319
Speaker 1: Got pizza delivered, but not like his only visitor, Like

1097
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,119
that's not that's not saying he got pizza delivered. That's

1098
01:13:51,159 --> 01:13:53,000
saying that the pizza guy was coming.

1099
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:57,560
Speaker 3: To see him exactly, That's what it said. She She

1100
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,520
even says that she found Page, as I said said earlier,

1101
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:04,399
sitting in a car staring off into space, and her

1102
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:09,039
daughter even told her the dude is acting strange. What

1103
01:14:09,159 --> 01:14:12,720
are the odds? Obviously that Wade Michael Page had an

1104
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,840
unrelenting appetite for pizza leading up to the shooting in Wisconsin,

1105
01:14:18,039 --> 01:14:18,640
and just so.

1106
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 1: The same way all of the politicians in the US

1107
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,159
strange appetite for pizza.

1108
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 3: Mm hm, it's too much, but honestly it is. It's ridiculous.

1109
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:35,760
And also this is leading up directly before the shooting

1110
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,840
and also just so happened to be freshly discharged out

1111
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:42,960
of psychological Operations program when showing up in small town

1112
01:14:43,039 --> 01:14:49,079
Littleton within minutes of Blackjack, Dylan, Eric and apparently Columbine

1113
01:14:49,119 --> 01:14:52,159
as well. And by the way, both Dylan and Eric

1114
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:57,239
were apparently very much into industrial punk rock, you know,

1115
01:14:57,359 --> 01:15:01,079
I mean, I played, uh, forget which song nine Inch

1116
01:15:01,159 --> 01:15:05,720
Nails song I think is one that specifically one of them?

1117
01:15:06,319 --> 01:15:08,840
I forget. It was Eric that went through a lot

1118
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,239
of the bands that he loved. And it was so funny.

1119
01:15:12,279 --> 01:15:15,960
When I was doing my deep dive on Columbine, I

1120
01:15:16,119 --> 01:15:19,479
re downloaded Doom and I was playing Doom and I

1121
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,199
was listening to Nine Inch Nails.

1122
01:15:21,399 --> 01:15:24,199
Speaker 1: I was mindset me.

1123
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 3: I thought it was hilarious though, like man, Doom was

1124
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:35,800
a great game. But anyway, so that is very interesting

1125
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,239
as far as the level of that the TCM was

1126
01:15:39,319 --> 01:15:44,439
involved in Satanism, Nazism, romanticizing SS Knights of the Black

1127
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:49,279
Sun and things of that nature. And now here's honestly

1128
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:53,960
probably my favorite part of the connection except for yeah,

1129
01:15:54,119 --> 01:15:56,399
I think even more so than the James Holmes tie

1130
01:15:56,479 --> 01:16:00,760
in to Wade Michael Page, because it's so fascinating and

1131
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,520
ties in the Confessions of a DC madam and in

1132
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:08,279
the basically the Craigspence operation which he was a CIA

1133
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,800
you know, asset and operative and he was running a

1134
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,840
sexual blackmail operation where they influenced Henry Vinson who was

1135
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:22,760
basically running a male prostitution operation. He was a madam

1136
01:16:23,279 --> 01:16:26,560
or basically you know, yeah, but he was a gay man.

1137
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:30,319
He was a closet homosexual. Apparently he was like a mortician.

1138
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:36,439
He wasn't good socially, and so he started hiring male

1139
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:42,000
prostitutes and allegedly at first, you know, not having sexual

1140
01:16:42,119 --> 01:16:44,880
engagement with them, but just having them hang out. And

1141
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,039
it sounds like a sad story. Honestly when I was

1142
01:16:47,079 --> 01:16:49,159
reading through it, I don't know how much of it

1143
01:16:49,319 --> 01:16:52,039
is true, but this is a quarter And Nick Bryant

1144
01:16:52,159 --> 01:16:55,359
helped him, helped him write. Nick Bryant the author of

1145
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:59,880
The Franklin Scandal, and he helped him obviously co write

1146
01:17:00,359 --> 01:17:04,359
the Confessions of a DC madam from his perspective, because

1147
01:17:04,399 --> 01:17:07,680
he believed that he was basically set up by Craig

1148
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:13,399
Spence who started to so basically, whenever Henry Vincent began

1149
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,840
using male prostitutes, he realized that he was good with finances,

1150
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:21,359
he started helping out some of the prostitutes in the business,

1151
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:26,560
and then they started asking him to essentially run as

1152
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:30,439
a pimp honestly on behalf of their best interests because

1153
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:32,960
they trusted him, and also he was gay as hell

1154
01:17:33,039 --> 01:17:36,119
and they were probably all having sex. But at the

1155
01:17:36,199 --> 01:17:44,439
same time, he essentially, you know, unintentionally finds himself as

1156
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,319
a pimp for these male prostitutes. And so then he

1157
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:51,840
starts getting this client who's calling him meeting with him

1158
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:56,079
as far as like ordering a significant number of prostitutes

1159
01:17:56,119 --> 01:17:58,479
on a weekly basis, to the point where it's like

1160
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,720
sixty grand every couple of weeks, like it was a

1161
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:06,560
lot of money, right, And so he starts obviously, he

1162
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,239
then gets in contact with him, wants to meet physically

1163
01:18:10,319 --> 01:18:12,680
in person and really you know, feel him out as

1164
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,880
far as Henry Craig Spence is, the client is calling

1165
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,479
for this, and so Henry Vinson meets with him, they

1166
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:23,000
have a dinner and then basically he agrees to kind

1167
01:18:23,039 --> 01:18:28,560
of help send prostitutes his direction, you know, And it

1168
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,560
was like this strange negotiation that they had. And then

1169
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,680
Henry Vincent then or Craig Spence. I'm sorry, I get

1170
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,079
them both mixed up sometimes, but Craig Spence was the

1171
01:18:38,159 --> 01:18:40,359
CIA cut out. They called him the Prince of Darkness.

1172
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:43,640
By the way. He was found worst case suicide you've

1173
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:46,840
ever seen, you know, in a hotel room. After but

1174
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,399
Nick Bryant does still say that he believes that he

1175
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:53,920
actually did probably kill himself, but more than likely it

1176
01:18:54,119 --> 01:18:58,520
was a choice made because he was essentially given okay,

1177
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,680
either you kill yourself or kill you you know, that's

1178
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:06,279
the bottom line, And so that definitely happens. You know,

1179
01:19:06,399 --> 01:19:09,960
it's possible that was the case. But at the same time,

1180
01:19:11,039 --> 01:19:15,079
he's it's such a strange, you know story, because obviously

1181
01:19:15,199 --> 01:19:18,520
you have a cabinet member of George Bussenior who was

1182
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:23,319
using federal funds to apparently have you know, sexual interactions

1183
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:30,199
with and purchased prostitutes from this network and exactly and

1184
01:19:30,319 --> 01:19:35,840
the Secret Service from George Bush's administration was providing twenty

1185
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:39,159
four to seven security a day, you know, twenty four

1186
01:19:39,199 --> 01:19:43,479
hours a day security to Craig Spence's apartment which was

1187
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:49,079
rigged for audio visual blackmail. And allegedly that's you know,

1188
01:19:49,239 --> 01:19:51,960
they called him the Prince of Darkness, obviously, but with

1189
01:19:52,079 --> 01:19:55,640
the Secret Service revealing that, you know, Secret Service personnel

1190
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,039
served as the private security for US twenty four hours

1191
01:19:58,039 --> 01:20:02,000
a day. And then the second time Henry Vincent's called

1192
01:20:02,079 --> 01:20:06,319
the Madam, the pemp is called to essentially go over

1193
01:20:06,399 --> 01:20:09,840
to Henry Vincent's DC home. He's summoned to the home

1194
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,880
and he goes over and meets with Craig Spence, and

1195
01:20:14,039 --> 01:20:17,560
Vincent claims to have met none other than Laurence E.

1196
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:21,880
King from the Franklin credit scandal union, Yes, a Franklin

1197
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:26,880
credit union scandal, and he happened to obviously not only

1198
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:31,000
run the federal credit union in Omaha, Nebraska, but Spence

1199
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,880
He's sitting on the couch whenever Henry Vincent walks in

1200
01:20:35,199 --> 01:20:39,279
to Craig Spence's apartment. And so then you have Spence

1201
01:20:39,399 --> 01:20:44,399
being quizzed or Spence quizzing Henry Vincent on about his life,

1202
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,399
asking him all these intimate details what seemed to be

1203
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,960
heartfelt questions at the time, apparently, and then he stands

1204
01:20:51,039 --> 01:20:55,399
up gestures for Henry to follow him, and according to

1205
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,119
Henry Vincent Craig, Spence walked toward a large mirror that

1206
01:20:59,319 --> 01:21:02,760
was situated on a living room wall, opened a closet

1207
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:04,840
door that was in the corner of his living room.

1208
01:21:05,359 --> 01:21:07,960
He popped open a secret panel that was embedded in

1209
01:21:08,039 --> 01:21:10,800
the closet, and he stepped into a small room that

1210
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,920
was behind the mirror. Henry says, I cautiously paused at

1211
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:18,079
the threshold of the closet, but Spence waved his right hand,

1212
01:21:18,199 --> 01:21:21,399
signifying that I should follow him into the surreptitious room.

1213
01:21:22,079 --> 01:21:24,920
The mirror on the living room wall was in fact

1214
01:21:25,119 --> 01:21:28,239
a two way mirror, and the room had a video

1215
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,319
camera on a tripod that was pointed toward the living room,

1216
01:21:31,359 --> 01:21:35,760
and also a wall of video monitors. Spence leaned over

1217
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,039
one of the video monitors, and after tapping a few

1218
01:21:39,079 --> 01:21:43,319
of its buttons, he replayed the concluding minutes of our conversation.

1219
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:49,640
At that moment, I felt shrink wrapped by cellophane, and

1220
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:54,439
I found it difficult to breathe as I signed. As

1221
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:59,039
I silently stared at the monitor, Spence casually smiled and

1222
01:21:59,199 --> 01:22:02,359
explained to me that his entire home was bugged for

1223
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:07,359
Clindestine's surveillance, and CIA operatives had installed the concealed video

1224
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:11,560
cameras throughout his house. He couldn't help himself from crowing

1225
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:15,239
that his surveillance equipment was state of the art and

1226
01:22:15,399 --> 01:22:18,880
that the camera that captured our conversations was embedded in

1227
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:23,720
the living room's thermostat. Spence then divulged that he blackmailed

1228
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:27,560
the rich and powerful. Henry says, I remained stunned and

1229
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:31,279
speechless as I watched myself discussing my life and escort

1230
01:22:31,399 --> 01:22:34,760
service on the video monitor, but after a few minutes

1231
01:22:35,359 --> 01:22:39,359
I started to swell with anger. However, I didn't express

1232
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,039
my anger to Spence because at that moment I was

1233
01:22:42,159 --> 01:22:46,439
undeniably frightened of him, and I'm also not a confrontational person.

1234
01:22:47,239 --> 01:22:51,039
Once Spence had flaunted his blackmail equipment, he dispensed a

1235
01:22:51,159 --> 01:22:54,439
grave threat about the consequences if I uttered nary a

1236
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:58,640
word relating to his concealed cameras. He then dismissed me.

1237
01:22:59,239 --> 01:23:03,399
Although Spence King pressured him to procure underage boys, Vincent

1238
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:07,600
allegedly refused on moral grounds. I don't know if I

1239
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:11,439
believe that. But at that meeting, Spence and King were

1240
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,640
apparently high on cocaine, and King revealed that he and

1241
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:19,159
Spence operated an interstate pedophile network that flew children coast

1242
01:23:19,199 --> 01:23:24,079
to coast. Boom. What do you do when you when

1243
01:23:24,079 --> 01:23:27,000
you when you know about things like this, you know,

1244
01:23:27,119 --> 01:23:33,319
it's like it's impossible to even imagine like going to

1245
01:23:33,399 --> 01:23:36,520
the polls, you know what I mean, like imagining like

1246
01:23:37,239 --> 01:23:40,600
like a world where you engage in the system itself,

1247
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:46,760
you know, and and and obviously we all do forcefully,

1248
01:23:47,239 --> 01:23:49,920
you know. I mean, they're stealing our taxpayer dollars to

1249
01:23:50,199 --> 01:23:55,760
to finance basically child prostitution, you know, and and child abuse,

1250
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,880
you know, And it's it's just insane. But if I

1251
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:01,159
don't go back to column, I.

1252
01:24:01,199 --> 01:24:02,039
Speaker 2: Was gonna say, how does that?

1253
01:24:02,239 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: So you brought up that story in the other episode

1254
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:07,960
as well, So like, I'm curious how that connects to Columbine.

1255
01:24:08,079 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 3: Okay, So here's how it connects, all right, Todd Blogeitt.

1256
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:16,479
Immediately after the Columbine High School pretext false flag operation,

1257
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:21,279
Wade Michael Page with draws and turns up with Cod Blodgett,

1258
01:24:22,159 --> 01:24:26,960
a notorious Nazi related CIA operative. So it turns out

1259
01:24:27,119 --> 01:24:31,079
it wasn't just happenstance that Wade Michael Page would resurface

1260
01:24:31,199 --> 01:24:34,680
around the year two thousand, just after Columbine with allegations

1261
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,439
that he had been reporting on his movements to Todd

1262
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:42,000
Blodgett of Resistance Records that I had just mentioned prior

1263
01:24:42,079 --> 01:24:45,119
to this as well. Yeah, and nine Percent Records too.

1264
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:49,880
So at the time Todd Blogeitt claims that he was

1265
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:55,560
intimately and confidentially meeting, possibly even funding, Wade Michael Page.

1266
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,159
He also happened to be working for the FBI and

1267
01:24:59,279 --> 01:25:01,640
factions of the u US intelligence community at the time.

1268
01:25:02,039 --> 01:25:05,359
Of course, mister Blodgett said he met mister Page at

1269
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:09,439
various festivals during the time. On several occasions, he said,

1270
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:13,960
mister Page discussed his musical aspirations, asking if Resistance Records

1271
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,680
would invest money in his metal band or provide him

1272
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:22,239
with a solo recording contract. This is Todd Blodgett's damage control, right,

1273
01:25:22,319 --> 01:25:25,960
He's trying to distance himself, remove himself from this relationship.

1274
01:25:26,199 --> 01:25:28,079
Speaker 1: He's like, no, he just wants like he just he

1275
01:25:28,199 --> 01:25:29,119
just wonted a record deal.

1276
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:35,399
Speaker 3: Exactly what a good one hundred percent, And Blodgett says that,

1277
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:38,159
and especially why why else would he pick up from

1278
01:25:38,199 --> 01:25:42,359
Littleton and instantly go to the hammer Hammerfest to this

1279
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:47,600
white supremacist uh uh, you know music festival. Why when

1280
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:51,439
you already know that nine percent these music labels, these

1281
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:56,760
production labels, will be president at this festival. Yep, that's

1282
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,760
kind of it looks like a cutout and false frame

1283
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:04,600
war four stringing along an asset, right and maybe you know,

1284
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:09,239
obviously finding meeting places for them, and also how can

1285
01:26:09,319 --> 01:26:13,880
they integrate themselves into these movements more so to have

1286
01:26:14,039 --> 01:26:17,079
some sort of influence. And I think that you know.

1287
01:26:17,279 --> 01:26:21,000
He continues on with claiming that mister Blodgett said that

1288
01:26:21,279 --> 01:26:26,119
mister Pierce, who owned all of resistance records after buying

1289
01:26:26,159 --> 01:26:30,239
out Todd Blodgett, had no interest because Wade Michael Page

1290
01:26:30,319 --> 01:26:35,960
came off quote as a loser among losers. Mister Page,

1291
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:40,319
he added, was a fairly shy, quiet guy until he

1292
01:26:40,399 --> 01:26:45,560
started talking about Jewish people, blacks and Latinos. During But

1293
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:49,479
here's the crazy part. During the Reagan administration, it was

1294
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:53,600
Todd Blogett who happened to be the White House point

1295
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:58,199
man to Henry Vinson and Craig Spence's call boy homosexual

1296
01:26:58,319 --> 01:27:02,439
prostitution ring that was under investigation by federal and district

1297
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:06,640
authorities and included among its clients key officials of the

1298
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:11,920
Reagan and Bush administrations and military officers, congressional aids, as

1299
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:15,199
well as American and foreign businessmen with close societal or

1300
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:19,399
social ties to Washington's political elite. And that includes Donald

1301
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:22,439
Gregg that I mentioned earlier, who's using federal funds in

1302
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:27,159
this same network, and also at Craig Spence's apartment. So

1303
01:27:27,359 --> 01:27:31,239
Todd Blodgett was Reagan's White House press aid at the time.

1304
01:27:32,319 --> 01:27:36,000
He's ultimately linked to hiring a number of gay mail escorts,

1305
01:27:36,279 --> 01:27:40,640
including boys as young as thirteen, for White House priority

1306
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:47,359
target clients from Professional Services Incorporated, a well known DC

1307
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:51,760
gay escort service. Private midnight tours of the White House

1308
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,239
were arranged for a number of these boys, after which

1309
01:27:54,319 --> 01:27:58,239
homosexual origies were alleged to have occurred in offices in

1310
01:27:58,319 --> 01:28:02,039
the new Executive Office building across the street. Of course,

1311
01:28:03,319 --> 01:28:06,840
Paul Banassi said as much of this, yeah, it makes

1312
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:11,840
me throw up, mm hmm. So Professional Services Incorporated was

1313
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:17,319
run by Washington Republican powerbroker lobbyist Craig Spence, the Prince

1314
01:28:17,399 --> 01:28:20,439
of Darkness, who would later admit to working for the

1315
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:24,840
CIA while conducting high level espionage and sexual blackmail operations

1316
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:31,600
within through CIA agent Felix Rodriguez. So this is the

1317
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,960
person who seemed to be performing the duties of handler

1318
01:28:35,359 --> 01:28:39,199
Todd Blodgett for Wade Michael Page, possibly even funding him

1319
01:28:39,399 --> 01:28:41,960
just after the Columbine massacre.

1320
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:47,640
Speaker 1: So then before he went and shot the temple in Wisconsin.

1321
01:28:47,279 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 3: In twenty twelve, Yeah, exactly. So two months prior to

1322
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:54,960
the attack of the at the Seek Temple, Wade Michael

1323
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,640
Page suddenly stopped showing up to his job as a

1324
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:03,560
machine operator at Lucas millhelped a welding company. Two days

1325
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:07,199
after he vanishes, a mass shooting was committed by James

1326
01:29:07,239 --> 01:29:11,279
Holmes at the Century sixteenth Theater in Oura, Colorado, two

1327
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:16,439
days after he Wade Michael Page vanishes. So, as widely

1328
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:20,439
reported by ABC News, the Page's girlfriend, thirty one year

1329
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:24,199
old Misty Cook, said that around six weeks before the rampage,

1330
01:29:24,239 --> 01:29:26,760
he had simply dropped off the face of the earth.

1331
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:31,159
In other words, Wade Michael Page is unaccounted for during

1332
01:29:31,199 --> 01:29:35,000
the shooting conducted by James Holmes June twentieth, twenty twelve,

1333
01:29:35,079 --> 01:29:38,159
and could very well have been the man identified by

1334
01:29:38,239 --> 01:29:41,039
various witnesses claiming a bald man who was dressed in

1335
01:29:41,199 --> 01:29:45,399
black helped James carry out the shooting. And also I

1336
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:47,840
think the tear gas could have been lobbed from the

1337
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:52,000
major recession behind the screens or with operatives and assets

1338
01:29:52,039 --> 01:29:56,199
already in place. So I don't believe James Holmes. I

1339
01:29:56,239 --> 01:29:58,439
think he was in a trance. He's waiting out by

1340
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:02,960
the car like unrespond you know, like he was a Menturian,

1341
01:30:03,199 --> 01:30:04,920
you know, he was Sir Hans, Sirhan.

1342
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 1: He's too weird to have done like the whole thing

1343
01:30:09,039 --> 01:30:09,880
to add up.

1344
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,560
Speaker 3: No, And they tried to give him a truth serum

1345
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:17,479
during the trial. It was so crazy. And puppets with

1346
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:21,560
the with the paper bags. He's playing handpuffet puppets while

1347
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:24,600
they're they're wrapped his hands because they're trying to get

1348
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:29,920
the the evidence from what's it called whenever they're trying

1349
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:32,840
to find trace evidence of of perhaps you fired a

1350
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:36,279
weapon uh in in the recent past or whatever the case. Wait,

1351
01:30:36,359 --> 01:30:39,399
maybe I forget the technical term, but the point being

1352
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:41,680
is that they had his hands wrapped for that purpose,

1353
01:30:42,119 --> 01:30:47,000
and he's so just in a catatonic state. He is

1354
01:30:47,239 --> 01:30:50,159
not normal on the way that you'd be.

1355
01:30:50,239 --> 01:30:53,159
Speaker 1: Like, okay, you just committed a mass murder, like you

1356
01:30:53,319 --> 01:30:58,439
just committed the shooting, and you're just like not normal.

1357
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 3: He couldn't respond, he was mm hmmm. He was unresponsive.

1358
01:31:05,159 --> 01:31:08,119
He didn't understand anything that was happening. And he starts

1359
01:31:08,159 --> 01:31:12,520
playing hand puppets with the bags over his hand. Or

1360
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:17,359
did he die No, I know, yeah, he went to

1361
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:23,520
prison for sure, but it's just absolutely him. Yes, hey,

1362
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:29,000
you might as well try. Honestly, I always wanted to

1363
01:31:29,039 --> 01:31:33,279
write Uncle Ted because apparently he was very responsive and would.

1364
01:31:33,079 --> 01:31:35,079
Speaker 2: Actually get back with you, Terry Nichols.

1365
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 3: Did you really that's awesome? Did he actually.

1366
01:31:40,039 --> 01:31:40,319
Speaker 1: To him?

1367
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 3: That would have been cool? Yeah, that would have been insane.

1368
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:47,119
But I think they're very much controlling every last piece

1369
01:31:47,199 --> 01:31:50,479
of you know, mail that he ever has received since

1370
01:31:51,079 --> 01:31:58,359
I mean, Jesse Trinidou went and visited him and they're like, no, yeah,

1371
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:01,399
we're going to have an operative in the right and

1372
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:05,159
he's like, this is violating you know, this, this man's

1373
01:32:05,319 --> 01:32:08,680
rights to speak privately with an attorney and they said no,

1374
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:11,600
we have to have a minder a fixer in the room,

1375
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:15,039
and then they never let him come back ever again

1376
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:17,840
and have visitation with anyone.

1377
01:32:18,239 --> 01:32:20,600
Speaker 1: It's like the Supermax prison. I drove past it one

1378
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:22,159
time because it's in it's in Colorado.

1379
01:32:22,239 --> 01:32:25,079
Speaker 3: Imagine that, right, Oh, that's the same place James Holmes

1380
01:32:25,159 --> 01:32:28,399
is that. Yeah, if I remember, he's like with the

1381
01:32:29,159 --> 01:32:31,399
it was where Ted Kay was at for a while,

1382
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:35,439
and I forget the other two. There's a couple others

1383
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:37,760
that are very notable that I'm forgetting now.

1384
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:41,600
Speaker 1: But twenty three hours in their cell. They get one

1385
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:43,039
hour in like the.

1386
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:46,319
Speaker 2: The yard.

1387
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:49,359
Speaker 1: But the yard is just like it's also a cell.

1388
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:51,399
It just doesn't have a roof so that way you

1389
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:52,199
can see the sun.

1390
01:32:54,560 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's a nightmare. Yeah, it's a night Wow.

1391
01:33:01,119 --> 01:33:05,079
I think that's where I I mean, it's it's Max.

1392
01:33:05,279 --> 01:33:08,960
Uh you know, it's definitely where a high priority figures

1393
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:12,920
are are taken to be held. But there and apparently

1394
01:33:13,039 --> 01:33:16,199
where Epstein and Diddy and Sam Bateman Fried and all

1395
01:33:16,239 --> 01:33:19,880
these people club fed or whatever is going on over there.

1396
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:25,359
But yeah, anyway, so the James Holmes connection, though, is

1397
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:30,000
fairly strange and the girlfriend Misty Cook after saying that

1398
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:32,800
he dropped off the base of the earth and then

1399
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:38,920
essentially the fact that Wade Michael Page was unaccounted for

1400
01:33:39,039 --> 01:33:43,960
in general is definitely concerning, but so The La Times

1401
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:47,000
described Page as a burly, bold man with the goatee.

1402
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:50,640
Witness from Aurora Corbyn Dates, who was sitting in the

1403
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:53,640
second row of the theater, says he saw a bold

1404
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:57,119
man with a goateee before the film started, answered a

1405
01:33:57,199 --> 01:33:59,560
cell phone call, then got up and propped open and

1406
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:03,439
emergent exit door. The suspicious man sat in the first

1407
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,359
right row and got a phone call. He took his

1408
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:09,039
phone and walked toward the emergency exit and was propping

1409
01:34:09,119 --> 01:34:11,439
the door open with his foot. It seems like he

1410
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:14,479
was making gestures trying to find somebody or trying to

1411
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:18,119
have somebody come to his location. It was. It was

1412
01:34:18,199 --> 01:34:22,720
also reported by a local news station James Holmes had

1413
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:26,279
been running down the street near his home accompanied by

1414
01:34:26,359 --> 01:34:30,760
a stocky individual, again with a goatee. At this time,

1415
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,520
Wade Michael Page just so happened to be living on

1416
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:35,760
a street called Holmes Avenue.

1417
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:41,119
Speaker 1: Convenient, so strange, that's all the symbolism like why do

1418
01:34:41,199 --> 01:34:45,600
they why do they like why do they do like

1419
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:47,600
the six six egs and like the thirty three and

1420
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:49,199
all these like why do they do all this?

1421
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:55,399
Speaker 3: I think it's it has to be almost For one,

1422
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:59,359
I've always thought like whenever COVID happened, and it was

1423
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:02,000
like thirty three cases, thirty three cases, thirty you know,

1424
01:35:02,079 --> 01:35:05,479
there were so many reports where like this was essentially

1425
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:09,520
taking place as well, they have like massive video comps

1426
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:13,600
of that happening, you know, on a ridiculous level, And

1427
01:35:14,039 --> 01:35:18,800
I think that for one, it's a way to signify,

1428
01:35:19,079 --> 01:35:22,880
like it's essentially a sign that this is a part

1429
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:26,319
of the operation, right, part of you know, we are

1430
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:30,399
assets within the same operation, And it's almost like tipping

1431
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:33,279
the cap, you know, like it's a tell, you know.

1432
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:37,520
But also you know, that's just some surface level attempt

1433
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:40,600
at interpreting why they would potentially do it in that way.

1434
01:35:41,159 --> 01:35:42,279
But I also think.

1435
01:35:42,359 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 1: Retribution or something like that. But then I haven't actually

1436
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:46,439
dug into it, so I don't know if you had.

1437
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I mean there's definitely something to that as well,

1438
01:35:50,119 --> 01:35:53,119
Like it's almost like the philosophy of the vampire, where

1439
01:35:53,159 --> 01:35:57,000
you have to almost invite them in and in doing so,

1440
01:35:57,399 --> 01:36:03,560
it's essentially the the you know, spiritual toll is left

1441
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:06,760
at your door or something you know, in a certain sense.

1442
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:12,439
And I think it's also I think that's obviously inherently

1443
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:16,079
flawed just morally speaking, but I you know, who knows.

1444
01:36:16,159 --> 01:36:18,600
I don't know. I'm not the ultimate judge of that,

1445
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:24,039
but I will. I do think that the numerology as

1446
01:36:24,159 --> 01:36:29,560
far as the Kabbala right, the Kabbala legitimately has a

1447
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:34,119
system of jamatria right where where they legitimately assign numerical

1448
01:36:34,239 --> 01:36:38,119
values to the alphabet right. And I think that you

1449
01:36:38,239 --> 01:36:41,399
can legitimately have a coded language and in a system

1450
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:44,920
of code words that you could use by utilizing just

1451
01:36:45,079 --> 01:36:49,119
numerical values of that very system itself in the Kabbala

1452
01:36:49,199 --> 01:36:52,960
context of jamatria. So I think that at some point

1453
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:56,039
I'll have to do a deeper dive because I've always

1454
01:36:56,119 --> 01:36:59,000
thought it's fascinating. But I also think it's a place

1455
01:36:59,079 --> 01:37:01,000
you go to kind of lose yourself in a way,

1456
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:04,720
you know, because it's very difficult to like anyone who's

1457
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:11,479
ever become the numbers guy. It's like, you know, it's like, yeah, exactly,

1458
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:14,640
it's something you can't come back from almost But I

1459
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:18,319
do think that it's it has to be acknowledged and

1460
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:20,560
you have to at least be like, well, that's strange,

1461
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:23,119
you know, every single time you see it, because it

1462
01:37:23,279 --> 01:37:26,760
seems to mean something, you know, to the individuals who

1463
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:31,439
are utilizing it. But yeah, I always thought, you know,

1464
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:36,119
thirty three is very much satanic and its application obviously

1465
01:37:36,279 --> 01:37:40,159
with the even like I was just talking about the

1466
01:37:40,319 --> 01:37:44,039
Ninth Gate, the Roman Planski film, where basically, I mean

1467
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:48,159
they're trying to open up the Ninth Gate. Dean Corso

1468
01:37:48,279 --> 01:37:51,199
is Johnny Depp's character, and he's he's like this art

1469
01:37:51,279 --> 01:37:55,279
appraiser sort of individual who's hired by Boris Balkan, who's

1470
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,439
like this very wealthy man who's trying to find the

1471
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:04,239
last three original texts of these grimoires, these satanic grimoires

1472
01:38:04,279 --> 01:38:06,560
that would help. When you have all three together, you

1473
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:12,239
can effectively summon Satan, right. And it's so crazy, like

1474
01:38:12,399 --> 01:38:15,600
his private art collection is hidden in this vault that

1475
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,640
the code is six sixty six to enter. When he

1476
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:21,880
shows the grimoire, it has an inverted pentagram on it,

1477
01:38:22,239 --> 01:38:25,119
the whole everything in it. It came out in nineteen

1478
01:38:25,199 --> 01:38:28,279
ninety nine. Roman Polanski did this on purpose because it's

1479
01:38:28,399 --> 01:38:32,840
actually an inversion or a reversal of sixteen sixty six

1480
01:38:33,399 --> 01:38:37,720
when the original Grimwiar was written, and so allegedly this

1481
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:43,640
is to identify and acknowledge the sort of the Age

1482
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:46,479
of Aquarius, the rise of a new era of the

1483
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:52,199
satanic restructuring of society in modern It's very strange, but

1484
01:38:52,399 --> 01:38:56,479
it's a part of what's happening. And so not only

1485
01:38:56,640 --> 01:39:00,359
is there fertility rituals involved in this, I mean he

1486
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:05,279
goes through the ninth the ninth circles of Dante's Inferno, lust, greed,

1487
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:09,039
all of these various you know, the core you know,

1488
01:39:09,279 --> 01:39:15,720
it's just and he essentially becomes the demon in a way.

1489
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:20,239
He becomes the devil by having a sexual ritual with

1490
01:39:21,039 --> 01:39:24,720
the whore of Babylon, which actually is Roman Polansky's girlfriend.

1491
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:27,560
And if you have the context of Roman Polansky and

1492
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:31,159
the prophecy that was Rosemary's baby. And then just after that,

1493
01:39:31,359 --> 01:39:33,319
Sharon Tate, who I think was a witch in the

1494
01:39:33,399 --> 01:39:37,039
processed church or something, was you know, sacrificed in this

1495
01:39:37,159 --> 01:39:41,960
fertility death ritual, and there was lapd claimed you have

1496
01:39:42,119 --> 01:39:45,439
members who blew the Whistle many times claiming that what

1497
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:49,399
they witnessed in these tapes that were found in the

1498
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:53,279
attic of Roman Polanski's house proved that they had been

1499
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:57,720
you know, just like sadistically he had been allowing, you know,

1500
01:39:58,079 --> 01:40:01,079
sex origies and you know, with Sharon and all these

1501
01:40:01,119 --> 01:40:05,079
things on tape and like terrible things and and so

1502
01:40:05,199 --> 01:40:08,800
I'm not at all surprised, but you know, anyway, it's

1503
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:13,039
just to me, I'm at a point where when you

1504
01:40:13,159 --> 01:40:17,319
begin to realize that this is more than it seems,

1505
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:22,560
you know, and and that and honestly, you can follow

1506
01:40:23,039 --> 01:40:27,079
legitimate evidence to prove out this, this, you know, being

1507
01:40:27,119 --> 01:40:30,279
an unfortunate reality and the position we find ourselves in.

1508
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:35,319
And that's what I try to rely on most because otherwise,

1509
01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:39,159
you just, you know, pattern recognition isn't enough, you know,

1510
01:40:39,279 --> 01:40:44,840
you have to have something, you know, this, something legitimate

1511
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:47,279
and tangible you can point to, you know what I mean.

1512
01:40:47,359 --> 01:40:50,479
And at the very least with the way and i

1513
01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:54,199
covered this with William Ramsey yesterday and then I'm already

1514
01:40:54,239 --> 01:40:56,680
dead as well on Tuesday. As far as the Ninth Circle,

1515
01:40:56,840 --> 01:41:00,319
which is a Satanic sex sacrificing cold that ties back

1516
01:41:00,399 --> 01:41:04,000
to the disappearance of this girl known as the Vatican Girl,

1517
01:41:04,079 --> 01:41:08,239
Emmanuela or Landi. And apparently the ninth circle is this

1518
01:41:09,319 --> 01:41:12,920
that you know, these popes have been initiated into this

1519
01:41:13,119 --> 01:41:18,000
group through Satanic child ritual sacrifice since eighteen seventy at

1520
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:21,960
the very least, you know, And this applies to the

1521
01:41:22,039 --> 01:41:25,079
nineteen eighty three disappearance of the Vatican Girl. And she

1522
01:41:25,359 --> 01:41:29,520
was apparently ritualistically sacrificed on June twenty third of the

1523
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:32,039
summer solstice in nineteen eighty three, which is in a

1524
01:41:32,159 --> 01:41:35,399
cold holiday. That is what they practice. They do these

1525
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:39,000
rituals on these very days for a reason, and you know,

1526
01:41:39,239 --> 01:41:43,560
harnessing energy, whatever the case may be, It is layered

1527
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:50,279
in the individual ideology they practice. Yeah, but anyway, I'm

1528
01:41:50,359 --> 01:41:54,680
sorry back, I'll try and finish the Wade Michael Page

1529
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:56,680
story because it sounds like the only thing we're going

1530
01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:59,720
to be able to cover today. I'm so sorry. Well

1531
01:42:00,159 --> 01:42:02,880
it's still Columbine though, right, so at least they did that.

1532
01:42:04,199 --> 01:42:06,520
Speaker 1: I like how it how you connect it to so

1533
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:10,119
many different things, because it like to me when I

1534
01:42:10,279 --> 01:42:12,359
do my episodes, I'm like, this is all of Columbine,

1535
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:15,199
and like I've also done like Monarch, and I've also

1536
01:42:15,279 --> 01:42:17,560
done whatever right you have to kind of connect those

1537
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:21,119
things together, whereas like in this conversation, you're actually connecting

1538
01:42:21,159 --> 01:42:24,039
all those pieces together for them so they don't have

1539
01:42:24,079 --> 01:42:25,000
to connect the pieces.

1540
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 3: Themselves, thank you. And it's really just my yeah, the

1541
01:42:30,399 --> 01:42:35,079
my skitzo expertise at this point that I've cultivated yeah

1542
01:42:35,159 --> 01:42:37,760
over time. And it's mainly and another reason why I

1543
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:40,199
need to get back into my solo project again, and

1544
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:45,119
because I mainly I dread them sometimes because I know

1545
01:42:45,319 --> 01:42:49,439
what it takes at this point, and it's just the

1546
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:53,880
level of intimate knowledge you have to have when you

1547
01:42:54,239 --> 01:42:59,119
go down that rabbit hole. Yeah, It's it's overwhelming, you know.

1548
01:42:59,239 --> 01:43:02,159
And it's something that it's like, man, you I come

1549
01:43:03,159 --> 01:43:05,640
at the end of every one of my solo projects,

1550
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:10,479
I basically cry because of how much it took out

1551
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:14,479
of me, you know, And it's like there's an emotional toll,

1552
01:43:15,279 --> 01:43:18,520
right that that affects your spirit and it's something that

1553
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:22,319
I try to like. It's why I love networking and

1554
01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:26,640
podcasting and having these conversations because it's like, man, not alone,

1555
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:31,000
thank god, you know. And also it's someone who very

1556
01:43:31,079 --> 01:43:33,640
much thinks along the same lines as I do, and

1557
01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:41,000
it's it's refreshing, you know, especially when you you just

1558
01:43:41,159 --> 01:43:43,079
descend into that darkness, you know.

1559
01:43:43,239 --> 01:43:47,359
Speaker 1: And I get like frustrated because I was just on

1560
01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:51,079
a podcast on a different podcast and we were talking

1561
01:43:51,079 --> 01:43:53,680
about Cantic Hook because it had just come out, and

1562
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:56,279
he's like, I love that you bring all this like attention,

1563
01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:59,399
like you're doing such good work bringing attention to these things.

1564
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:01,119
And I kind of got mad because I was like,

1565
01:44:01,239 --> 01:44:04,960
I'm not doing enough, like and then I realized like

1566
01:44:05,039 --> 01:44:07,119
I kind of like set myself down like a like

1567
01:44:07,159 --> 01:44:11,000
an emotional spiral where I was like I'm not doing anything. Yes,

1568
01:44:11,119 --> 01:44:13,560
Like I'm screaming into the void like somebody pay attention,

1569
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:17,359
like they're they're killing children, They're like ritually sacrificing children,

1570
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:22,479
they're raping children. But like it sounds crazy right like

1571
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:25,560
but of course, like I mean, you know exactly the

1572
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:28,000
same things, like I know, like this is really happening.

1573
01:44:28,279 --> 01:44:30,680
These are real things. And then I get like so

1574
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:33,880
frustrated because I'm like what do we do? Like how

1575
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:36,239
do we stop it? So then I went into this

1576
01:44:36,319 --> 01:44:38,640
whole rabbit hole, like how do I get involved to

1577
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:43,079
stop human trafficking, like not even just children, like just

1578
01:44:43,199 --> 01:44:45,600
human trafficking in general, Like how do I stop that?

1579
01:44:46,239 --> 01:44:50,359
And I can't find an organization or anything like anything

1580
01:44:50,399 --> 01:44:52,680
that I can be a part of that's not just like, oh,

1581
01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:54,359
give us your money. I don't want to give you

1582
01:44:54,399 --> 01:44:56,800
my money because I don't firstly, don't trust you. Second

1583
01:44:56,920 --> 01:45:01,399
like I want to actually help, like be more hands on,

1584
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:03,239
because yeah, like I can yell into the void all

1585
01:45:03,279 --> 01:45:06,600
day long, but is anybody listening, right?

1586
01:45:07,199 --> 01:45:09,399
Speaker 3: And what's so crazy is that so many of those

1587
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:14,720
childcare organizations are literally compromised by those very satanic pedophiles

1588
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:18,760
that are attempting to surround themselves with opportunities and windows

1589
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:23,760
to obtain children, you know. And that's that's the most

1590
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:28,119
disturbing part, is that it's legitimately systematically entrenched. You know.

1591
01:45:28,359 --> 01:45:33,760
This is a process that they have just perfected, you know,

1592
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:38,279
and it's something that should rock you to your core,

1593
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:41,000
you know. And and I think whenever you do climb

1594
01:45:41,079 --> 01:45:45,760
back out of that darkness and you feel like you

1595
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:49,079
lost a part of yourself, you know, Like honestly, that's

1596
01:45:49,119 --> 01:45:51,800
what happened to me whenever I came back.

1597
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:54,520
Speaker 1: It's so like worked up because I don't think it

1598
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:55,640
really matters.

1599
01:45:55,359 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 3: About me, Like, no, it doesn't.

1600
01:46:00,119 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 1: All right like these other Sorry, I'm like getting worked

1601
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:04,319
up right now.

1602
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:07,199
Speaker 3: It's okay, I am too. I am too. And I

1603
01:46:07,279 --> 01:46:12,319
think that's we should be, you know, like just understanding

1604
01:46:12,359 --> 01:46:16,079
the ultimate consequences of this. And I don't mean to

1605
01:46:16,159 --> 01:46:18,520
focus on how it affects me, but I think it's

1606
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:21,720
mainly due to the plight of the victims and what

1607
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:25,119
I read that they experienced. And that's why I get

1608
01:46:25,199 --> 01:46:29,159
so upset. Why it's like, man, when when I was

1609
01:46:29,239 --> 01:46:33,319
reading the detrol X files, you know, I'm getting into

1610
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:36,439
the most disturbing forms of abuse you could ever imagine,

1611
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:40,399
and reading the detailed examples as to how it took place,

1612
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:47,439
and there was a moment where I stopped and because

1613
01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:51,079
I just knew what the next sentence would read, and

1614
01:46:51,279 --> 01:46:56,119
I stopped because it was so disturbing. I just closed

1615
01:46:56,159 --> 01:46:59,600
my eyes and you know, I yelled, yelled the curse word,

1616
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:03,199
and just like tried to breathe, you know, and and

1617
01:47:03,319 --> 01:47:08,359
then re engage. But it was just like man to

1618
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:12,279
feel that way, you know, just by reading what one

1619
01:47:12,319 --> 01:47:16,640
of these children experienced, it just goes to show the

1620
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:20,439
level of impact, you know, and and how how much

1621
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:23,800
this destroys a person's life forever.

1622
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 1: Care Like they do it and it's like a show,

1623
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:30,439
and like everybody's on social media right now right because

1624
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:32,439
of like Jeffrey Epstein. I don't mean to get on

1625
01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:34,800
a soapbox about this, but it's been like weighing on

1626
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:39,279
my heart so heavy recently. Like everyone's like almost like

1627
01:47:39,399 --> 01:47:43,399
joking about it, and they're like, oh, you know, like yeah,

1628
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:45,600
like the I just saw like the stand up comedian

1629
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:48,680
and he's like, cool, the illegals aren't like grabbing your kids,

1630
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:52,199
that's the politician's job or whatever. And I'm like, yeah,

1631
01:47:52,239 --> 01:47:54,880
it's a joke. Except it's not a joke. The thing

1632
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:57,520
is like this is really happening, and nobody's taking it seriously.

1633
01:47:57,560 --> 01:48:00,560
Everyone's like, oh yeah, Epstein, but like they're pointing the

1634
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:03,319
finger and they're Createn's division again, like oh it's the right,

1635
01:48:03,399 --> 01:48:06,199
Oh it's the left. Oh it's this. I'm like, it's everybody,

1636
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:08,920
and we need to be more outraged about it.

1637
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:15,239
Speaker 3: Exactly. I agree wholeheartedly. And that's why every time, like

1638
01:48:15,319 --> 01:48:18,720
I legitimately tried to cover Columbine to get away from

1639
01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:25,119
an episode surrounding, you know, the satanic pedophilia basically, and

1640
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:29,000
then I get into Columbine and I find out there's

1641
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:32,960
a child sex ring involved, and a man by the

1642
01:48:33,039 --> 01:48:37,840
name of pedophile Bill, who's you know, distributing pornography, child

1643
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:42,600
pornography and binders filled with pictures of young children and

1644
01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:45,199
showing them two other young children who are going to

1645
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:48,439
these schools and hanging out with members of the trench

1646
01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:51,840
Coat mafia. And the fact that you have a kid,

1647
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:56,439
a student being discovered with child porn in his backpack

1648
01:48:57,079 --> 01:48:59,920
and going on the record claiming it was this individual.

1649
01:49:00,079 --> 01:49:03,119
He visited the house with his girlfriend, and this guy

1650
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:08,039
basically continued to reveal to them, you know, these these

1651
01:49:08,119 --> 01:49:13,479
photo albums of child pornography and like disturbing, you know,

1652
01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:17,479
CP right, and and that he got instantly, him and

1653
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:23,199
his girlfriend basically got very you know, uncomfortable and and

1654
01:49:23,359 --> 01:49:26,640
instantly tried to allegedly leave. But this is this is

1655
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:31,159
how the story goes for him. It's so a potential

1656
01:49:31,239 --> 01:49:34,560
child sex ring in the local area, obviously in Columbine,

1657
01:49:35,239 --> 01:49:39,159
and it connects to El Paso County Sheriff's Office case

1658
01:49:39,279 --> 01:49:43,119
file which was dated May seventh and ninety nine, just

1659
01:49:43,239 --> 01:49:46,720
a month over, just over a month before the shooting. Actually,

1660
01:49:47,359 --> 01:49:51,840
so the case file was also included in the Jefferson

1661
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:55,319
County Sheriff's Office Columbine Report, which is the reason why

1662
01:49:55,359 --> 01:49:58,479
I found this. So the information comes from a student

1663
01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:01,239
at Mace Ridge High School who got in trouble and

1664
01:50:01,319 --> 01:50:05,159
then had child pornography found in his backpack, after which

1665
01:50:05,199 --> 01:50:07,880
he talked about knowing members of the Trench Cote Mafia.

1666
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:13,439
Speaker 1: Strange, especially because just for context, Masa Ridge is in

1667
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:15,840
Colorado Springs and it's probably an hour and a half

1668
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:20,079
to two hours away from Columbine, so everyone understands kind of.

1669
01:50:20,079 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 3: Like where it's at, right, So already it's showing how

1670
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:29,239
widespread the network is, even locally in this area, you

1671
01:50:29,319 --> 01:50:32,520
know what I mean. It's like, I just think it's

1672
01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:35,640
fascinating how much the Trench Colle Mafia had a footprint.

1673
01:50:36,079 --> 01:50:40,560
But geographically they had different names associated to the chapters,

1674
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:44,119
and I didn't understand that until I covered this obviously.

1675
01:50:44,279 --> 01:50:50,640
But so, he claims that he actually saw Dylan Klebold

1676
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:53,439
and Eric Harris at a party the weekend before the shooting.

1677
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:57,159
He says that he and a friend named Amber Rubio,

1678
01:50:57,640 --> 01:51:00,840
also an associate of the Trench Collte mafia, visited the

1679
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:04,279
home of a man named Pedophile Bill who gave him

1680
01:51:04,319 --> 01:51:09,239
the child pornography in the case file. The detective asked Michael,

1681
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:11,840
this name of the student from Mason Ridge High School,

1682
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:16,479
to explain what the trench Coat Mafia was. He stated

1683
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:20,920
that TCM are goths, but not all goths are Trench

1684
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:24,279
colt Mafia. He claims to have some friends who lived

1685
01:51:24,319 --> 01:51:27,760
at a goth house in Acacia Park is a or

1686
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:33,159
Acacia I don't know, but located in downtown Colorado Springs,

1687
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:36,520
and that the trench Coat Mafia also believed that they

1688
01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:41,920
are vampires, so they are into blood letting. According to

1689
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:45,439
this kid, that to join the Trench Golt Mafia, you

1690
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:49,159
have to cut on either forearm. Your blood is collected

1691
01:51:49,239 --> 01:51:53,239
and drank by the other person's present. That's the Hand

1692
01:51:53,279 --> 01:51:55,880
of Death Cult man. That's Henry le Lucas. They were

1693
01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:59,000
doing these blood rituals and then consuming. They were just

1694
01:51:59,079 --> 01:52:02,560
finding students who were visiting in Mexico or whatever, or

1695
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:05,119
near the border in Mexico. They would find a student

1696
01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:08,439
group of students and then the Hand of Death Cult

1697
01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:12,000
operatives and assets that were being trained at at you know,

1698
01:52:12,239 --> 01:52:17,039
with what's what's the name, shit, I can't remember the

1699
01:52:17,119 --> 01:52:19,680
name of the Satanist group that was involved with this,

1700
01:52:19,880 --> 01:52:23,640
but either way, uh he you know, he claims he

1701
01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:26,159
was trained on how to abduct children at this place

1702
01:52:26,239 --> 01:52:28,159
and also how to wield a knife and all these

1703
01:52:28,239 --> 01:52:31,319
various different, you know, sophisticated methods. And he claims that

1704
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:35,960
these were CIA black sites that provided you know, knowledge

1705
01:52:36,039 --> 01:52:39,920
and intel on whenever there would be domestic flights or

1706
01:52:39,960 --> 01:52:43,000
even military flights that would go over the area, so

1707
01:52:43,119 --> 01:52:46,359
they could strategically cover the area so there would no

1708
01:52:46,479 --> 01:52:49,479
be there would not be any overhead uh you know,

1709
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:53,600
evidence of this existing in the first place, which is fascinating, right,

1710
01:52:54,279 --> 01:52:57,119
that alone is just like, my god, it shows how

1711
01:52:57,399 --> 01:53:01,119
how deeply entrenched this truly is. And and so I

1712
01:53:01,199 --> 01:53:09,079
think these parks beware of parks, Okay, just be careful,

1713
01:53:09,199 --> 01:53:12,159
That's all I'll say it, because I feel like the

1714
01:53:12,279 --> 01:53:15,880
location of some of these parks strategically near these schools.

1715
01:53:16,399 --> 01:53:20,000
And then also have some of these uh these homes

1716
01:53:20,119 --> 01:53:23,159
right that are are in very strategic locations near the

1717
01:53:23,239 --> 01:53:28,039
parks and the schools, which then become almost a tool

1718
01:53:28,159 --> 01:53:32,720
and a headquarter for abducting or even influencing children through

1719
01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:33,840
a house party or whatever.

1720
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:38,359
Speaker 1: Why would you go to a place who's like or

1721
01:53:38,399 --> 01:53:42,479
to a house whose owner's name is pedophile Bill Bill, No,

1722
01:53:42,640 --> 01:53:43,479
he's a pedophile.

1723
01:53:44,319 --> 01:53:48,920
Speaker 3: Stay, good question. And I wonder why, because I would

1724
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:52,520
have to think there was some mutually exclusive purpose. Like

1725
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:58,399
my understanding was Eric and Dylan, we're experimenting with drugs,

1726
01:53:59,199 --> 01:54:01,640
you know, not all only were they you know, obviously

1727
01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:04,920
smoking weed, but there was they were allegedly doing meth.

1728
01:54:05,479 --> 01:54:08,840
And I think that they said they were doing meth.

1729
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:13,439
And Eric's shed, right, this weird shed at Eric Eric's property,

1730
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:18,800
Eric Harris's father's house. And and so even even the

1731
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:22,199
Columbine student who called into the show, uh not too

1732
01:54:22,319 --> 01:54:25,960
long ago, said that, yeah, they the kids at the

1733
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:30,319
school knew that they were doing that apparently in Eric's shed,

1734
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:33,039
and a couple other guys would go there and they

1735
01:54:33,039 --> 01:54:36,159
would just do drugs or whatever. And so I was thinking,

1736
01:54:36,479 --> 01:54:38,960
and and at some point, if if we don't get

1737
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:42,000
into it today, we'll have to because I had mentioned

1738
01:54:42,039 --> 01:54:45,760
the you and I'm sorry to keep inviting myself back

1739
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:54,760
on you tell me, but I will say the sheriff's

1740
01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:57,800
deputy from Jefferson County named Tim Walsh that I mentioned

1741
01:54:58,479 --> 01:55:01,880
allegedly there was an evidence in evidence there was a

1742
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:04,239
tape for a short period of time that went missing

1743
01:55:04,359 --> 01:55:09,600
and I think was destroyed ultimately called the basically it

1744
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:12,359
was called the hold On. I think I have it somewhere. Yeah,

1745
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:16,039
alleged rape of Harris and Cleebold by Jefferson County Sheriff's

1746
01:55:16,079 --> 01:55:19,520
deputy Tim Walsh. And this is according to John DeCamp,

1747
01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:23,720
and it was called the the Walsh but rape tape

1748
01:55:24,039 --> 01:55:26,960
is what it was legitimately like labeled as in evidence,

1749
01:55:27,079 --> 01:55:30,560
which is allegedly through John DeCamp, who you know, he's

1750
01:55:31,319 --> 01:55:35,000
he's a reliable source enough to you know, legitimately point to.

1751
01:55:35,159 --> 01:55:38,960
And so anyway, if that's the case, then the whole

1752
01:55:39,079 --> 01:55:43,199
concept of even bringing that up is that wouldn't you imagine,

1753
01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:48,479
you know, through methamphetamine, not only is it a mind

1754
01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:52,960
control component involved with there's so many different layers of

1755
01:55:53,319 --> 01:55:59,920
helping induce the mind control techniques using amphetamine based you know, methods,

1756
01:56:00,079 --> 01:56:03,119
things like this, So that's possible, and then also to

1757
01:56:03,239 --> 01:56:07,399
get the children or you know, even just Derek or

1758
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:10,439
maybe both of them. I don't know, but get them

1759
01:56:10,479 --> 01:56:14,279
hooked on a substance like meth and then have some

1760
01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:19,159
strange negotiation where you're a pedophile who's a strange power broker,

1761
01:56:19,199 --> 01:56:21,399
who's trying to handle the kid in the first place,

1762
01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:25,319
offering him the only place he can attain, you know,

1763
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:28,760
almost basically a legal form of methamphetamine coming through a

1764
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:32,760
sheriff's deputy, and then all of a sudden the transaction

1765
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:37,840
involves anal rape or even not rape, what if it's

1766
01:56:38,079 --> 01:56:42,800
actually you know, what's the word consensual? You know, as

1767
01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:45,840
far as what if, oh if I get the methamphetamine,

1768
01:56:46,119 --> 01:56:48,800
who cares whatever, I'll have sex with this old man,

1769
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:52,159
you know, or this weird deputy who also happens to

1770
01:56:52,239 --> 01:56:56,039
be eerily just too many places at once. Every time

1771
01:56:56,239 --> 01:57:00,520
Eric Harris is getting in trouble, here's sheriff's deputy Tim Walsh. Why,

1772
01:57:01,119 --> 01:57:04,800
you know, same with the fan breaking exactly. And that's

1773
01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:07,760
another reason why I don't think that you know that

1774
01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:11,680
I think the what was it called the Affidavid I

1775
01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:14,279
forget the name of the Garra Affidave, I forget the

1776
01:57:14,359 --> 01:57:17,520
name of it now, but the affidavit that essentially should

1777
01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:21,000
have been filed correctly and led to a.

1778
01:57:21,119 --> 01:57:24,840
Speaker 2: Search wark like Brooks Brown exactly.

1779
01:57:25,119 --> 01:57:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so this should have led to a search

1780
01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:32,119
warrant for Eric Harris's home, and it would have shown

1781
01:57:32,359 --> 01:57:35,199
not only the pipe bombs, but you know, manifest those

1782
01:57:35,279 --> 01:57:38,039
many other things that they could have discovered, you know,

1783
01:57:38,279 --> 01:57:42,880
and and at least I don't know, potentially stop this

1784
01:57:43,039 --> 01:57:46,079
before it happened, you know, but unless you wanted it

1785
01:57:46,199 --> 01:57:49,560
to happen, which is a you know, obviously what a

1786
01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:52,640
little bit more were eye lean. But at the same time,

1787
01:57:53,439 --> 01:57:56,159
if we're talking blood letting ceremonies with members of the

1788
01:57:56,239 --> 01:57:59,800
Trench Cote mafia, we have some problems. But it gets

1789
01:58:00,239 --> 01:58:04,800
than that because it's not only are they apparently doing

1790
01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:09,800
these blood initiation ceremonies, but and I found this fascinating

1791
01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:12,600
too because there's an author by the name of Brian

1792
01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:17,560
desbro and he I believe victims of mind control are

1793
01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:20,800
typically programmed. This is according to him in his book,

1794
01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:24,760
victims of mind control are typically programmed to slash their

1795
01:58:25,039 --> 01:58:29,920
arms if their front altar personality begins to recover memories

1796
01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:37,600
of the programming. This allegedly inhibits further memory recovery. Imagine

1797
01:58:38,439 --> 01:58:43,279
if just as and this is apparently applies to the

1798
01:58:43,439 --> 01:58:47,239
leadership level of the TCM. They're the ones who practice

1799
01:58:47,279 --> 01:58:51,479
the blood letting ceremonies. So I just found it fascinating,

1800
01:58:52,479 --> 01:58:57,039
you know that this could legitimately be an application of

1801
01:58:57,239 --> 01:59:00,680
MK ultra that they're attempting to reinforce, you know, oh

1802
01:59:01,039 --> 01:59:03,399
where they're waking up to their programmings. So they sliced

1803
01:59:03,439 --> 01:59:07,399
their arms and it inhibits their ability to recover their memory.

1804
01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:11,720
And so the student further states that he was simply

1805
01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:14,560
an associate, not a full fledged member of the TCM.

1806
01:59:15,399 --> 01:59:18,319
But on the Saturday evening prior to the shooting at Columbine,

1807
01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:21,000
they had all gone to a member's house by the

1808
01:59:21,119 --> 01:59:24,600
name of Mockt, which was later determined to be thirty

1809
01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:28,439
seven Hays Drive. Dylan Cleebold, and Erek Harris had also

1810
01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:32,439
attended this party. He described the party as a mafia event.

1811
01:59:33,359 --> 01:59:36,600
The detective asked how he had known Harrison Cleebold, and

1812
01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:39,800
he said he had met them at the Acacia park

1813
01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:43,000
at at Kasia Parker while he was hanging around with

1814
01:59:43,159 --> 01:59:47,079
other goths and TCM members. Then on occasion they had

1815
01:59:47,079 --> 01:59:49,760
allowed him to stand in front of Eric Harris's car

1816
01:59:50,319 --> 01:59:53,319
and had a polaroid taken of him holding the car keys.

1817
01:59:54,359 --> 01:59:59,880
Another polaroid was taken with redacted standing with some fe

1818
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:04,680
email acquaintances in front of the same vehicle. But you

1819
02:00:04,720 --> 02:00:05,399
know what's really.

1820
02:00:05,239 --> 02:00:08,960
Speaker 1: Interesting about what you just said. It disrupts the official

1821
02:00:09,000 --> 02:00:13,680
timeline because they were said, or at least Dylan was

1822
02:00:13,720 --> 02:00:16,239
said to have been at prom the Saturday night prior,

1823
02:00:17,119 --> 02:00:21,359
and then they allegedly went to after prom at the

1824
02:00:21,479 --> 02:00:25,840
high school the Saturday night prior, and everything you just

1825
02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:28,840
said says they're at this party, some mafia party the

1826
02:00:28,920 --> 02:00:29,800
Saturday night park.

1827
02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:35,239
Speaker 3: How crazy is that? Yeah, seems like the official narrative

1828
02:00:35,359 --> 02:00:40,920
and the timeline is entirely claude or yeah exactly, And

1829
02:00:41,199 --> 02:00:45,920
I'm just this feels so strange, just the story in itself,

1830
02:00:46,239 --> 02:00:51,600
you know. And the same kid claims that on one

1831
02:00:51,640 --> 02:00:54,399
occasion he had been driven down to Acasia Park in

1832
02:00:54,520 --> 02:00:57,560
Harris's car, and in Eric's car he had seen a

1833
02:00:57,680 --> 02:01:03,560
book on explosives. This this fits too well. It's almost

1834
02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:07,600
like an FBI writer room, like figuring out exactly what

1835
02:01:07,800 --> 02:01:08,239
to you know.

1836
02:01:09,439 --> 02:01:12,039
Speaker 1: He's on a book, so he knows how to build

1837
02:01:12,079 --> 02:01:14,640
those pipe bombs, but not just like what a sixteen

1838
02:01:14,680 --> 02:01:16,000
year or seventeen eighteen year old.

1839
02:01:15,880 --> 02:01:20,520
Speaker 3: Know how exactly, but not just the book, the perfect book.

1840
02:01:21,000 --> 02:01:24,800
The book. Everyone would know that this is what it represents,

1841
02:01:25,359 --> 02:01:28,800
and guess what it was. It was the anarchist cookbook,

1842
02:01:29,439 --> 02:01:30,239
saying in the back of.

1843
02:01:30,319 --> 02:01:34,000
Speaker 2: Harris's Guy, of course, and then they can ban the book.

1844
02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:38,279
Speaker 3: Uh huh, it's so ridiculous. But then you have the

1845
02:01:38,399 --> 02:01:41,680
detective asking him to explain where the goth house was

1846
02:01:42,039 --> 02:01:45,199
in Colorado Springs. Michael claimed that it was on a

1847
02:01:45,319 --> 02:01:48,600
corner and is a big white house downtown. He was

1848
02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:51,359
unable to give a better description of the location, but

1849
02:01:51,640 --> 02:01:54,640
one question as to where Market's house was, he related

1850
02:01:54,680 --> 02:01:57,119
that he would have to show us versus telling us

1851
02:01:57,520 --> 02:02:00,720
due to the fact that he was unsure. He did

1852
02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:03,119
state that there was no grass in the front yard

1853
02:02:03,199 --> 02:02:05,760
of the residents, and you were able to see a school.

1854
02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:11,359
I thought the proximity was interesting, So yeah. The detective

1855
02:02:11,439 --> 02:02:14,439
asked him to explain how the trench Coat Mafia was structured.

1856
02:02:15,239 --> 02:02:18,680
He says the Colorado chapter. The Colorado Springs chapter is

1857
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:24,199
called Molcavia trench Coat Mafia. They basically hang out, listen

1858
02:02:24,239 --> 02:02:27,920
to goth music, and party. The Denver chapter is called

1859
02:02:28,279 --> 02:02:33,239
the Gangreel trench Coat Mafia. They are more interested in violence.

1860
02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:39,520
In Pueblo there is the Torridor's trench Coat Mafia. He

1861
02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:43,479
doesn't have any real Yeah, he apparently doesn't have much

1862
02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:47,399
information on that specific chapter, but he claimed that in

1863
02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:51,560
Colorado Springs, in that area, there are possibly twenty to

1864
02:02:51,680 --> 02:02:55,279
thirty members that have actually been cut as an initiation

1865
02:02:55,520 --> 02:03:02,000
into the trench Coat Mafia. So interestingly, Mike though.

1866
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Speaker 1: There's a couple of really interesting things. So Nora AD's

1867
02:03:05,640 --> 02:03:08,720
in Colorado Springs. You have Fort Carson, which is an

1868
02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:11,800
army base. You have Peterson Air Force Base. You have

1869
02:03:12,279 --> 02:03:18,159
the the Broadmoor Hotel, which is where George Junior, George

1870
02:03:18,199 --> 02:03:22,760
Bush Junior got like that's where he basically went to rehab.

1871
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They like locked him in a room at this hotel.

1872
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Speaker 3: I didn't know that for months. I didn't even know

1873
02:03:29,159 --> 02:03:32,600
about this. That's hilarious. I didn't know about that story. Yeah,

1874
02:03:32,720 --> 02:03:34,880
he had to go through rehab and they locked him

1875
02:03:34,920 --> 02:03:36,800
in like like Howard Hughes in the hotel.

1876
02:03:37,239 --> 02:03:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a like a really it's a really

1877
02:03:39,079 --> 02:03:41,479
nice fancy hotel. So I locked him in this hotel

1878
02:03:41,560 --> 02:03:43,680
for like two or three months. And they got him

1879
02:03:43,920 --> 02:03:45,560
off of cocaine apparently.

1880
02:03:46,159 --> 02:03:49,399
Speaker 3: Wow, I never knew that story. That's so funny.

1881
02:03:49,600 --> 02:03:50,880
Speaker 1: There's all kinds of crist.

1882
02:03:52,640 --> 02:03:55,079
Speaker 3: I gotta do a breakdown on the Bush family at

1883
02:03:55,119 --> 02:03:55,439
some point.

1884
02:03:55,520 --> 02:03:57,279
Speaker 1: I want to do it too, because they're connected to

1885
02:03:57,279 --> 02:03:59,199
Alister Crowley and just like.

1886
02:03:59,680 --> 02:04:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's so much. But these different chapters are definitely strange.

1887
02:04:06,039 --> 02:04:09,359
It feels like just not even realizing that it was

1888
02:04:09,479 --> 02:04:13,359
kind of structured in this way, you know, until you know,

1889
02:04:13,479 --> 02:04:16,720
if we're to believe this, this witness account obviously, because

1890
02:04:17,039 --> 02:04:19,800
I mean that's what we're relying on. But at the

1891
02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:25,039
same time, the initiation, the blood letting ceremony, that's what

1892
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:29,319
just obviously beyond the pedophile connection, they caught my eye

1893
02:04:29,359 --> 02:04:30,319
instantly clearly.

1894
02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:36,279
Speaker 1: But doesn't that so whenn't pedophilia like re established their

1895
02:04:36,399 --> 02:04:38,840
programming as well, because isn't that kind of how they

1896
02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:39,920
were programmed to begin with?

1897
02:04:40,680 --> 02:04:41,159
Speaker 3: Exactly?

1898
02:04:41,479 --> 02:04:46,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so continuing that abuse, continues to keep

1899
02:04:46,840 --> 02:04:49,279
their personalities separate.

1900
02:04:50,159 --> 02:04:52,880
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yeah, I think so. It's the part of

1901
02:04:52,920 --> 02:04:57,000
the did programming, you know, It's it's definitely how they

1902
02:04:57,119 --> 02:05:01,640
reinforce it, and it's try a base mind control you know,

1903
02:05:02,119 --> 02:05:06,560
but but so this this student, Oh, oh my god,

1904
02:05:06,640 --> 02:05:09,239
this is one of my favorite parts actually because Michael

1905
02:05:09,359 --> 02:05:12,560
the student. He continues by relating that the trench Coat

1906
02:05:12,640 --> 02:05:18,000
Mafia they read the Book of Nod and the Circle

1907
02:05:18,239 --> 02:05:25,079
of Lilith. Now, let's just remember, keep keep in mind

1908
02:05:25,279 --> 02:05:28,640
what I just said. Whenever we actually do his probably

1909
02:05:28,640 --> 02:05:31,119
won't be this episode, but whenever we actually do cover

1910
02:05:32,039 --> 02:05:35,960
how the White Eagle, Underground and the Star Chamber applies

1911
02:05:36,039 --> 02:05:39,520
so directly to what I just read Circle of Lilith. Now,

1912
02:05:39,600 --> 02:05:41,720
remember who Lilith is.

1913
02:05:42,880 --> 02:05:46,880
Speaker 1: I did a whole episode on Lilith, like the potentially

1914
02:05:47,279 --> 02:05:48,239
like Adam's first.

1915
02:05:48,239 --> 02:05:51,520
Speaker 3: First wife of Adam. Oh my, check this out. So

1916
02:05:52,399 --> 02:05:56,680
Juliette Bryant, the Blue Epstein's Blue Butterfly. Yeah, so she

1917
02:05:57,079 --> 02:06:00,479
was a victim at ZORL Ranch. She was like a

1918
02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:03,560
you know, a young model who was brought in by

1919
02:06:03,720 --> 02:06:07,279
Jean lu Bernel and these various individuals who were obviously

1920
02:06:07,439 --> 02:06:12,399
molesting and raping these these young women. And Juliette Bryant

1921
02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:16,279
she experienced a fascinating you know, just as far as

1922
02:06:16,359 --> 02:06:19,279
her trauma and the cycle of abuse during her time

1923
02:06:19,359 --> 02:06:22,760
with the Epstein Network. And it's is so disgusting and sad,

1924
02:06:22,880 --> 02:06:28,000
but it's fascinating because she she claimed that she was

1925
02:06:28,079 --> 02:06:31,279
trafficked and spent time at the Zoril Ranch property, which

1926
02:06:31,359 --> 02:06:35,439
is obviously a baby making factory eight thousand square feet basement.

1927
02:06:36,479 --> 02:06:40,640
It's so crazy that they called them dungeons. And basically

1928
02:06:40,680 --> 02:06:42,800
the way they were structured was like all the neighbors

1929
02:06:42,880 --> 02:06:46,079
were aware whenever they were being the tunnel systems were

1930
02:06:46,119 --> 02:06:51,000
being built. It's just so terrible to imagine. But so

1931
02:06:51,319 --> 02:06:55,359
she woke up paralyzed and naked, Juliette Bryant at Zorol Ranch.

1932
02:06:55,640 --> 02:06:58,560
She woke up paralyzed and naked on an operating table

1933
02:06:59,159 --> 02:07:01,960
in the middle of the night. She says. All of

1934
02:07:02,239 --> 02:07:05,119
the other additional victims that she came into contact with

1935
02:07:05,279 --> 02:07:09,119
at Zoril Ranch also were branded with a blue butterfly

1936
02:07:09,319 --> 02:07:12,479
on them. Her books called the Blue Butterfly, and Nick

1937
02:07:12,520 --> 02:07:16,960
Bryant wrote the forward. She said she believes and she

1938
02:07:18,000 --> 02:07:22,000
that this represented Lilith, the first wife of Adam. That's

1939
02:07:22,039 --> 02:07:26,720
what she said, And she also says transhumanism and eugenics.

1940
02:07:27,479 --> 02:07:32,439
Harvesting the eggs of the victims is allegedly a priority

1941
02:07:32,520 --> 02:07:35,920
within in Epstein's theory of eugenics, and this Zoril Ranch

1942
02:07:36,000 --> 02:07:38,399
property was not far away at all from the military

1943
02:07:38,479 --> 02:07:43,000
based Bulce base. And it turns out that she, along

1944
02:07:43,079 --> 02:07:46,840
with many other victims, woke up paralyzed with their eggs

1945
02:07:46,880 --> 02:07:52,159
harvested at Epstein's Zoril Ranch, right, and so just to imagine,

1946
02:07:53,640 --> 02:07:57,279
but the Lilith connection is obviously what what you know

1947
02:07:57,479 --> 02:08:01,560
brought that to the forefront. But now they're reading Circle

1948
02:08:01,640 --> 02:08:05,159
of Lilith in the Book of Nod. Now apply that

1949
02:08:05,359 --> 02:08:09,840
to when we get into the you know, the internal

1950
02:08:10,279 --> 02:08:14,560
investigative memorandum that proves the Star Chamber exists. It's the

1951
02:08:14,760 --> 02:08:18,520
leadership echelon of the White Eagle Underground and the brotherhood

1952
02:08:18,520 --> 02:08:21,800
of the White Temple. And it turns out there they're

1953
02:08:23,119 --> 02:08:27,680
basically they rogue intelligence agents, is what they claim. They're

1954
02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:31,159
not rogue. Okay, these people are acting on behalf of

1955
02:08:31,319 --> 02:08:35,439
this dark network that legitimately has been established, and the

1956
02:08:35,560 --> 02:08:39,439
Star Chamber is so fascinating. We'll get into it, but

1957
02:08:39,640 --> 02:08:43,760
I'm just saying that Lilith Akino is directly implicated as being,

1958
02:08:44,199 --> 02:08:48,039
you know, a prominent pedophile on you know, along with

1959
02:08:48,359 --> 02:08:51,239
her husband, Michael Achino, who's a prolific pedophile in his

1960
02:08:51,359 --> 02:08:56,319
own right, and absolutely it is. She was the high

1961
02:08:56,359 --> 02:09:00,520
Priestess of the Temple of Set which obviously Mike Lequino

1962
02:09:01,159 --> 02:09:03,680
found it just after he had a falling out with

1963
02:09:04,199 --> 02:09:08,439
Anton Levy at the you know this at the Church

1964
02:09:08,520 --> 02:09:12,039
of Satan, which is just so ridiculous. But anyway, so

1965
02:09:12,199 --> 02:09:17,159
this student, he's obviously questioned concerning the photographs that were

1966
02:09:17,199 --> 02:09:21,840
found in his backpack of sexually explicit material. He related

1967
02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:25,640
that before Christmas in ninety eight, he had been at

1968
02:09:25,680 --> 02:09:31,079
Pedophile Bills home. He and a friend, Amber Rubio, had

1969
02:09:31,119 --> 02:09:36,319
gone to Pedophile Bills, who lives on redacted Boulevard. They

1970
02:09:36,399 --> 02:09:39,439
tend to redact and protect pedophiles for some strange reason.

1971
02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:42,920
But at least the prominent figures, Yeah, at least the

1972
02:09:43,000 --> 02:09:47,319
prominent figures. I think the solo pedophiles who don't play

1973
02:09:47,399 --> 02:09:50,680
ball or aren't intelligent enough to be recruited into the network,

1974
02:09:51,239 --> 02:09:54,039
they yeah, they'll fall to the wayside and catch a charge.

1975
02:09:54,520 --> 02:09:59,039
But for the most part, if you're a prolific pedophile

1976
02:09:59,159 --> 02:10:04,920
involved in it child abuse network, you have protection. Yeah,

1977
02:10:05,199 --> 02:10:09,039
you have protection, and I think police protection is always involved.

1978
02:10:09,399 --> 02:10:12,119
Mark de Troil case, that's exactly what happened. Same with

1979
02:10:12,319 --> 02:10:15,399
the Vatican girl that I just mentioned. Uh, they have

1980
02:10:15,560 --> 02:10:18,960
police protection. The John darm officers were helped, which is

1981
02:10:19,159 --> 02:10:24,640
basically FBI agents where we're along with local police stub it. Sorry,

1982
02:10:24,680 --> 02:10:29,800
my dog's freaking out. Sorry, but along with the local

1983
02:10:29,840 --> 02:10:36,039
police officials or just police officers. They were legitimately, uh,

1984
02:10:36,479 --> 02:10:40,039
providing police protection on behalf of the Detroit network and

1985
02:10:40,319 --> 02:10:43,319
also helping them with the on the ground abductions and

1986
02:10:43,399 --> 02:10:47,680
kidnappings of specific priority targets. And so to understand that's

1987
02:10:47,720 --> 02:10:50,279
the level. And not only that they were clients at

1988
02:10:50,319 --> 02:10:54,239
these these Utrobots and and the Dolo Nightclub, which were

1989
02:10:54,279 --> 02:10:58,600
these pedophile nightclubs set up by French freemasons. And it's

1990
02:10:58,720 --> 02:11:01,319
just so crazy when you get into it. But this

1991
02:11:01,479 --> 02:11:06,239
is never ending. And so with this student legitimately visiting

1992
02:11:06,359 --> 02:11:12,239
during Christmas ninety eight, it Pedophile Bills. Apparently the pedophile

1993
02:11:12,319 --> 02:11:17,199
Bill had this individual where while they were at Pedophile

1994
02:11:17,239 --> 02:11:20,920
Bill's house, he had given the sexually explicit photographs to

1995
02:11:21,399 --> 02:11:24,479
this kid, Michael, and he had also showed them a

1996
02:11:24,520 --> 02:11:29,239
photo album containing photographs of small children in sexually explicit positions.

1997
02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:33,840
Upon observing this photo album. It allegedly made him sick

1998
02:11:34,319 --> 02:11:37,520
and he and Amber had left the residence, so when

1999
02:11:37,560 --> 02:11:40,039
asked about the content of the photographs, he stated that

2000
02:11:40,199 --> 02:11:44,439
they were sexually explicit photographs of small children. Some appeared

2001
02:11:44,479 --> 02:11:47,079
to be under the age of ten and some appeared

2002
02:11:47,079 --> 02:11:52,319
to be to approximately fourteen years of age. So that

2003
02:11:53,399 --> 02:11:57,119
and now we're basically if we want to continue in

2004
02:11:57,239 --> 02:12:01,640
a chronological way, we could discuss the sexual abuse allegations

2005
02:12:01,640 --> 02:12:04,399
of Eric and Dylan, but we can pull the plug

2006
02:12:04,520 --> 02:12:06,279
whenever you want, though, honestly.

2007
02:12:06,159 --> 02:12:09,439
Speaker 1: We should stop for now and then we'll continue on

2008
02:12:10,079 --> 02:12:11,520
next time when we have you on again.

2009
02:12:11,640 --> 02:12:16,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm desperate to do so. Obviously, the additional shooters,

2010
02:12:16,319 --> 02:12:18,520
we do need to cover that. But I think the

2011
02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:22,640
Plattsburgh mind control I would love to actually detail how

2012
02:12:22,680 --> 02:12:25,439
I believe Eric was legitimately set up as a young

2013
02:12:25,600 --> 02:12:30,319
child to be a part of this domestic operation unfortunately,

2014
02:12:30,760 --> 02:12:33,199
and one day I will show you that video on

2015
02:12:33,319 --> 02:12:35,640
the death Education program, I swear.

2016
02:12:37,279 --> 02:12:39,720
Speaker 1: My episode, and it'll be good for everybody here. Like

2017
02:12:39,880 --> 02:12:42,159
for my episode, I watched a video about death Education

2018
02:12:42,520 --> 02:12:45,760
and it was crazy because then like just a couple

2019
02:12:45,800 --> 02:12:48,960
of years prior or like in the late eighties, like

2020
02:12:49,039 --> 02:12:51,000
eighty nine or something. You had that girl that was

2021
02:12:51,039 --> 02:12:51,920
going to kill herself.

2022
02:12:52,680 --> 02:12:56,359
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Tarah Becker, Yeah, Tara Becker, I remember, yeah,

2023
02:12:56,520 --> 02:12:59,520
she's yeah. It's so sad to see what they did

2024
02:12:59,560 --> 02:13:02,840
to or ecologically, you know, and just to imagine how

2025
02:13:02,960 --> 02:13:06,439
vulnerable even just a high school kid is, you know,

2026
02:13:06,560 --> 02:13:11,680
as far as emotionally vulnerable and identity based issues. You know,

2027
02:13:11,880 --> 02:13:15,199
it's just like it's the struggle every one of us

2028
02:13:15,279 --> 02:13:18,600
have been there. I mean, it's you're you're in a

2029
02:13:18,680 --> 02:13:23,159
place where you're very influential, you know, easily influenced, you know,

2030
02:13:23,439 --> 02:13:27,079
is what I must say. And so to imagine taking

2031
02:13:27,159 --> 02:13:30,760
that and even applying that to as young as five

2032
02:13:30,880 --> 02:13:34,119
years old, four and five years old. They're taking them

2033
02:13:34,159 --> 02:13:37,439
to morgues and funeral homes and and showing them dead

2034
02:13:37,479 --> 02:13:41,479
bodies and having them choose their own casket and write

2035
02:13:41,520 --> 02:13:45,560
their own suicide notes and obituary. I mean, that is

2036
02:13:46,399 --> 02:13:51,479
another level of psychological conditioning that is legitimately in parallels

2037
02:13:51,520 --> 02:13:52,720
perfectly with mk Ultra.

2038
02:13:53,039 --> 02:13:56,359
Speaker 1: It's like torture, like torturing the children.

2039
02:13:56,680 --> 02:13:59,840
Speaker 3: Traumatic that one of those girls, I remember, she said,

2040
02:14:00,479 --> 02:14:03,079
I don't want to die, right, and she's like and

2041
02:14:03,600 --> 02:14:06,279
they're forcing me to write my own obituary. And she's like,

2042
02:14:06,720 --> 02:14:08,680
I want to live for a long time, but they're

2043
02:14:08,760 --> 02:14:13,279
having me write an obituary where I die young. And

2044
02:14:13,439 --> 02:14:16,479
she's like trying to reject this because it was disturbing

2045
02:14:16,560 --> 02:14:19,640
to her, you know, and like, of course it would

2046
02:14:19,680 --> 02:14:22,640
be man, Like, I couldn't imagine being in a school

2047
02:14:22,800 --> 02:14:27,000
classroom setting where a teacher is trying to walk you

2048
02:14:27,159 --> 02:14:31,279
through a hypnotic state where you can relive past trauma.

2049
02:14:31,920 --> 02:14:34,439
Speaker 4: A teacher that's not qualified to walk you through that

2050
02:14:34,880 --> 02:14:39,119
your qualifications, Like okay, you are a teacher, fine, you

2051
02:14:39,199 --> 02:14:43,520
have that degree, you have no psychological background, and what

2052
02:14:43,720 --> 02:14:46,439
you went through like a day's long.

2053
02:14:47,159 --> 02:14:53,279
Speaker 3: Like seminar or something, yeah, like room or now.

2054
02:14:53,239 --> 02:14:56,199
Speaker 1: You're qualified like continuing education.

2055
02:14:57,680 --> 02:15:00,399
Speaker 3: It's so ridiculous, man. And I think I mean, one

2056
02:15:00,439 --> 02:15:04,359
of the examples of that exact teacher that I'm remembering,

2057
02:15:04,800 --> 02:15:07,039
it was a black teacher and I there was this

2058
02:15:07,159 --> 02:15:09,239
black student that was in there with him, and I

2059
02:15:09,439 --> 02:15:11,840
was like, dude, get your arm off of her, Like

2060
02:15:11,960 --> 02:15:15,199
he was way too close to her. He's walking with

2061
02:15:15,399 --> 02:15:17,880
his arm around her through the grass while he's like

2062
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:22,279
having this emotional conversation. He then takes one of the

2063
02:15:22,359 --> 02:15:26,720
male students and uses him as a teaching tool. What

2064
02:15:26,880 --> 02:15:29,880
he said he would use the death of his other

2065
02:15:30,079 --> 02:15:32,960
brother who had died in a tragedy. I think it

2066
02:15:33,039 --> 02:15:36,319
was a car accident. So they went down to the

2067
02:15:36,439 --> 02:15:40,880
actual cemetery and had the kid whose brother it was

2068
02:15:41,600 --> 02:15:45,439
talk about his loss at the actual burial plot with

2069
02:15:45,600 --> 02:15:47,720
the rest of the students, and the teacher said he

2070
02:15:47,800 --> 02:15:49,920
wanted to use the death of his brother as a

2071
02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:51,840
teaching tool for the rest of the class.

2072
02:15:52,359 --> 02:15:55,359
Speaker 1: Firstly, he might not want to relive that. Secondly, in

2073
02:15:55,439 --> 02:15:58,239
for of all of his peers, high school's already hard enough,

2074
02:15:58,399 --> 02:16:02,079
let alone, like, let's dig up your worst memory, let's

2075
02:16:02,199 --> 02:16:05,000
think of all your trauma from your entire life, and

2076
02:16:05,119 --> 02:16:07,159
we'll put it on display right here in front of everybody.

2077
02:16:08,000 --> 02:16:12,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was, honestly just so like it

2078
02:16:12,640 --> 02:16:15,680
was disturbing as hell, and it was it was extraordinary

2079
02:16:15,800 --> 02:16:18,640
as an example to point to and and realize that

2080
02:16:18,960 --> 02:16:23,359
something was happening at Columbine High School. I know that much.

2081
02:16:23,720 --> 02:16:27,600
And it doesn't seem to be in any way a

2082
02:16:27,800 --> 02:16:32,600
normal high school setting right as far as I'm concerned.

2083
02:16:32,639 --> 02:16:35,760
As much as what is normal in high school.

2084
02:16:36,600 --> 02:16:39,040
Speaker 1: It's a little bit different. But yeah, it sounds like

2085
02:16:39,440 --> 02:16:41,600
Columbine was going through some crazy things back then.

2086
02:16:41,840 --> 02:16:46,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, and when we get into it, there's talk of witchcraft, voodoo, drugs,

2087
02:16:46,399 --> 02:16:49,680
and porn being taught at the school. Within the curriculum,

2088
02:16:49,719 --> 02:16:52,840
you have certain teachers. It was allegedly a drama teacher

2089
02:16:53,440 --> 02:16:57,799
or maybe it was the shit what I'm trying to

2090
02:16:57,840 --> 02:17:01,639
remember now because I think it, UHM, remember the theatrical

2091
02:17:01,799 --> 02:17:04,479
program that Dylan was a part of where he was

2092
02:17:04,559 --> 02:17:08,559
basically running the sound system and things of that nature.

2093
02:17:08,719 --> 02:17:10,520
For I forget what the class was called.

2094
02:17:10,600 --> 02:17:12,920
Speaker 1: I think it was like theater or drama.

2095
02:17:13,360 --> 02:17:15,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was something like that, but it had a

2096
02:17:15,799 --> 02:17:19,040
different anyway, it doesn't matter all when we discuss it,

2097
02:17:19,120 --> 02:17:21,360
I'll actually referred to it in a detailed way. But

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the point being is that I definitely read now these

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are unsubstantiated rumors, and you know, statements that you can't

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have any sort of reliable source attached to. But it

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was basically that there were rumors going around that it

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was one of the teachers who was close with Dylan

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and Eric had actually helped them film the basement tapes.

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Outside of school, and was spending a strange amount of

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time around them outside of school as well, and so

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that they had helped like overexpose them to the occult

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and things of that nature.

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Speaker 1: And I thought how education teachers was teaching about reincarnation

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and about like what it's going to be like when

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we come back.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, how crazy is that? Right? And it's

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almost glorifying death in a way as well, so to

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imagine a lot of the the accelerationist ideology and you know,

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the neo pagan application of things as well. It's like

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immortality through basically through death on the battlefield in a

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way is something to that effects that ancient concept of

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if you die, yeah you will find yourself and yeah

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in valhalla. But that's basically what it's honestly. We could

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just sit here for forever. And I think this conversation

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is so important. Though at the same time, so as

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much as I derail us and I apologize for that,

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I like it.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I like the connections, like connecting every

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everything to each other, because it is it is important,

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and everything really is that connected. But I think it's

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easy to be like, oh, that was an event and

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then this is a separate event when really they're not separate,

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Like it's all being run by the same satanic government

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that we keep voting it like we've both men, right,

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but they're they're orchestrating the votes, They're orchestrating everything.

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Speaker 3: This is a product, it's basically a product and a

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result of uh this this ongoing uh you know, agenda

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that is essentially being perfectly implemented in this you know,

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very deceptive way where it's so difficult for the general

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public to even imagine, like just crying back the layers

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of the seat in regard to to you know, effectively

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facilitating this, you know again their worst interest, which is

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this dystopian outcome. So I think, yeah, all of this,

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all of these cases and examples that we pointed to,

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is just an ultimate consequence and result of that very

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well insulated power cabal, you know, just unable to be

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held accountable or brought to justice in any real sense

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of the words. So we're left shouting from the rooftops

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and you know, finding some solace in each other because

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that's the best we can do with this moment, Yeah, exactly,

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and hopefully provide our families with you know, and ourselves

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with at least enough of an opportunity to disengage and

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opt out as much as possible, and to live by

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our principles on a daily basis, And that in its

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own right is a victory of some kind. Just to

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try and have happiness and beauty in your life, you know,

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and have a positive effect on the people you love,

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and we we have to do at least the best

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we can in terms of you know, just as far

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as that's concerned. So but I appreciate, shate you as always,

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and I really enjoyed this conversation for sure.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on, Thank for coming back. I

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appreciate it. Until next week, my friends, stay Skeptical and

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we will see you all then. Hey friends.

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