Speaker 1: Good morning, everybody. Corey used bloody history. We're continuing on
Speaker 1: through this David ferryphile and today we're going to read
Speaker 1: through an article by William W. Turner in Ramparts magazine
Speaker 1: in June sixty seven. It's called the Inquest. You know,
Speaker 1: it's funny when you go back and you look at
Speaker 1: like the Kennedy assassination conspiracy stuff that started to come
Speaker 1: out in books almost immediately after the assassination. By the
Speaker 1: time Garrison started his investigation, there must have been dozens
Speaker 1: and dozens of books already published. And so I find
Speaker 1: that these books, in particular cover up by Gary Shaw
Speaker 1: absolutely unbelievable. What's in that thing? He came so close
Speaker 1: to cracking so many things in it. It's really unbelievable.
Speaker 1: The work that he did on the book depository, and
Speaker 1: you know, showing the picture of the man who was
Speaker 1: arrested but then released because he didn't speak English clearly
Speaker 1: Lawrence Howard. That stuff was all highlighted in that book.
Speaker 1: And so when I find when you go back to
Speaker 1: those early books up through like sixty seven sixty eight,
Speaker 1: all the early stuff Penn Jones and whatnot, Mark Lane,
Speaker 1: it's always got details in there that have been just
Speaker 1: pushed off to the wayside. I'm hoping that this article
Speaker 1: from sixty seven will have some of those amazing details
Speaker 1: that nobody talks about anymore. So this is called the inquest.
Speaker 1: Grand conspiracies need not be grand. There need be only
Speaker 1: a few central figures in a position to manipulate, wheedle, duped,
Speaker 1: blackmail and by the bit actors. This is the theory
Speaker 1: of New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison as applied to
Speaker 1: the assassination of President Kennedy. The people who engineered the killing,
Speaker 1: the killing of one of the finest presidents we ever had,
Speaker 1: are walking around to day. He declares not to do
Speaker 1: anything about it. Is Unamerican. The Louisiana populace can hardly
Speaker 1: be accused of disloyalty. He has, he claims, discovered who
Speaker 1: killed Kennedy, who organized the plot, and what forces were
Speaker 1: involved in planning the various steps that led to the assassination.
Speaker 1: And he's done all this against formidable odds. He has
Speaker 1: been denounced and ridiculed by such calumnists as Bob Considine,
Speaker 1: Jim Bishop, and Victor Ricel. The press has for the
Speaker 1: most part slanted its coverage of his investigation to imply
Speaker 1: motives of personal glory and political gain. The government establishment
Speaker 1: has given him the cold shoulder, and the FBI, which
Speaker 1: cleared two of his present suspects immediately following the assassination,
Speaker 1: refused to release its information to him. The truth, according
Speaker 1: to Garrison, is certain to rock the republic as it
Speaker 1: gradually unfolds in court. He is convinced that Lee Harvey
Speaker 1: Oswald was not a trigger man and that Jack Ruby
Speaker 1: was the puppet of a more sophisticated master. He's equally
Speaker 1: sure at the working level of the conspiracy was composed
Speaker 1: of rabid anti Castro Cuban exiles in league with elements
Speaker 1: of the American paramilitary right, well, you know, just to
Speaker 1: comment on that real quick, like, remember, the only anti
Speaker 1: Castro Cubans involved in the assassination period are Sergei Arcacia
Speaker 1: and Emilio Santana. That's it. That's it, And both those
Speaker 1: guys worked for Marcelo in New Orleans. So no one
Speaker 1: was there on behalf of anti Castro Cuban's biggest red
Speaker 1: herring in all of Kennedy. And then when it says
Speaker 1: exiles in league with elements of the American paramilitary right.
Speaker 1: That part's accurate too. That part's accurate. Some people put
Speaker 1: too much emphasis on the far right, the McIntyre crowd,
Speaker 1: the California guys and the mill Tiers. Those guys were
Speaker 1: probably in the know because they knew Lawrence Howard and
Speaker 1: Lauren Hall and William Seymour and Kerrie Thornley and Warren
Speaker 1: Reynolds and so. Yeah, the information flowed through those channels,
Speaker 1: I'm sure. But did they have much of a role
Speaker 1: in this thing. I'd say not at all, other than
Speaker 1: their associations. The concerted establishment effort to confine the events
Speaker 1: of the assassination to Oswald and Ruby suggests the Garrison
Speaker 1: thesis a vertically integrated plot, rising step by step into
Speaker 1: high echelons of government and the military industrial complex. Honorable
Speaker 1: men did in Caesar drily observes the prosecutor with a
Speaker 1: fondness for historical metaphor. Thus far, the dramatis personae of
Speaker 1: Garrison's terse drama have been wildly disparate. On February twenty
Speaker 1: second of this year, after preliminary lengthy questioning by the
Speaker 1: DA's office, and shortly before he was to be arrested
Speaker 1: by Garrison in charge with conspiracy to assassinate Kennedy. David
Speaker 1: William Ferry was found dead in his cluttered New Orleans apartment.
Speaker 1: The second major figure in Garrison's probe is fifty four
Speaker 1: year old Clay Shaw, retired executive director of the New
Speaker 1: Orleans International Trademark, charged with conspiracy by Garrison. He's now
Speaker 1: awaiting trial. A third individual expected to figure prominently in
Speaker 1: the Garrison inquiry is Manuel Garcia Gonzalez. The New Orleans
Speaker 1: DA has come into possession of a photograph taken at
Speaker 1: Dealey Plaza just before the assassination, which shows several Latin
Speaker 1: men behind the low picket fence at the top of
Speaker 1: the famed grassian Ole. Most Warren Report critics believe one
Speaker 1: or more shots were fired from the grassyan Ol area,
Speaker 1: and Garrison thinks Gonzalez is one of the men in
Speaker 1: this photograph. Gonzalez has disappeared and probably fled the country.
Speaker 1: All right, So let's examine this real quick, because it's nonsense.
Speaker 1: M A third individual expected to figure prominently in the
Speaker 1: Garrison inquiry is Manuel Garcia Gonzalez. Okay, so I've looked
Speaker 1: into this Manuel Garcia Gonzalez, and I can't. This is
Speaker 1: zero connection and other than a loose affiliation amongst the
Speaker 1: Cubans in New Orleans. I don't know why Garrison was
Speaker 1: so hell bent on this guy. I should probably do
Speaker 1: a double back on him. But nowhere does he figure
Speaker 1: prominently in the storyline other than one of the side
Speaker 1: characters like Carlos Carroga, like David Pierce Maggire. Although David
Speaker 1: Pierce Maggiar I have a feeling flew carry Thornley in Mexico.
Speaker 1: That's what I am inclined to believe at this point.
Speaker 1: It's just too much of a coincidence that him, allegedly,
Speaker 1: oswald Uh, and god Day all got their visas to
Speaker 1: Mexico City on the same fucking day. You see. This
Speaker 1: is when I say that they were sloppy. That's exactly
Speaker 1: what I mean. You don't send three guys in there
Speaker 1: going on this fucking conspiracy trip to fucking get their
Speaker 1: vasas on the same day. It's retarded, retarded. So yeah, Gonzales,
Speaker 1: I don't know why he puts so much effort under
Speaker 1: this guy. He's not come up prominently in any of
Speaker 1: the research that I've done, so but we'll see, and
Speaker 1: we'll see there's a couple of people in Daly Plaza
Speaker 1: who I don't know who the fuck they are. There's
Speaker 1: like a black guy standing in Daily Plaza by the
Speaker 1: pergola with a little hat on that doesn't look like
Speaker 1: he belongs there, looks very sophisticated. I don't know who
Speaker 1: the hell ad is, So let me continue. The New
Speaker 1: Orleans DA has come into possession of a photograph take
Speaker 1: it at Daly Plaza just before the assassination. What photograph
Speaker 1: is this? I've never heard of this photograph. I've never
Speaker 1: seen this photograph. It's obviously no longer a photograph. And
Speaker 1: if there's pictures of them in Daly Plaza before the assassination,
Speaker 1: which I haven't seen any pictures before the assassination except
Speaker 1: of the Secret Service car, that's when everything seems to start. Right.
Speaker 1: Think that people would be in Daily Plaza and just
Speaker 1: taking pictures because they were there waiting for the president, right,
Speaker 1: they would take a couple skyline shots or whatever. But
Speaker 1: that doesn't seem to have happened in any case whatsoever.
Speaker 1: Can anyone out there think of a single photograph that
Speaker 1: is taken in Daily Plaza prior to the Secret Service
Speaker 1: car pulling in and all the cars starting to pull
Speaker 1: in like in the Hughes film and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: like the Hughes film, and that this seems where all
Speaker 1: the photographs start, right, the motor kaid is just starting
Speaker 1: to come into Daily Plaza. That's where they don't even
Speaker 1: have photographs of the ambulance that took Jerry bell Knapp
Speaker 1: to park On hospital, the epileptic, right y epileptic who
Speaker 1: just got to drink a glass of water and walked
Speaker 1: out the door, never to be heard from again. So yeah,
Speaker 1: very interesting. The timing of when all the photography in
Speaker 1: Daily Plaza starts. You would think somebody would have been
Speaker 1: there a half hour early and taken one picture. Right,
Speaker 1: we don't even have that. What does that tell you?
Speaker 1: All photographs prior to the motorcade entry into Daily Plaza
Speaker 1: have been deleted from the world for some reason. All right,
Speaker 1: of anybody out there knows to the contrary, please let
Speaker 1: me know. I'm anxious to see a photograph prior to
Speaker 1: the motorcaide's entry. All right, Oswald and Garrison's book, he
Speaker 1: was nothing more than a decoy and a fall guy
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. The next bracketed heading says a guide
Speaker 1: to the CIA's New Orleans Dave Ferry was gesticulating furiously
Speaker 1: as he poured out his scheme triangulation. The availability of
Speaker 1: exit one man had to be sacrificed to give the
Speaker 1: other one or two gunman time to escape. Leon Oswald
Speaker 1: listened impassively. So did Clay Bertrand, A tall, courtly older
Speaker 1: man with close cropped white hair. Bertrand, smartly attired in
Speaker 1: a maroon jacket, looked out of place with his carelessly
Speaker 1: dress companions in the disarray of Ferri's apartment. This was
Speaker 1: the scene on or about September sixteenth, nineteen sixty three,
Speaker 1: as described recently in a New Orleans courtroom by Perry Russo,
Speaker 1: Jim Garrison's star witness to date, who had been present
Speaker 1: in the Ferry apartment on that fateful night. An articulate
Speaker 1: young insurance salesman for Equitable Life and a graduate of
Speaker 1: the Jesuit Loyola University, Russo had passed for what is worth,
Speaker 1: a series of sodium penthethal truth serum tests administered by
Speaker 1: medical experts. His story was sufficiently impressive to cause a
Speaker 1: three judge panel to bind over clay Shaw, whom Russou
Speaker 1: identified as Clay Bertrand for trial in the assassination of
Speaker 1: the President. Okay, so let's examine a couple of things here.
Speaker 1: This is one of the most important and most overlooked
Speaker 1: incidents in the lead up to the assassination, and the
Speaker 1: timing is extremely important too. So obviously it's not Oswald,
Speaker 1: okakerry Thornly. When you go deep into the d tales,
Speaker 1: and maybe they'll cover it in this article, you'll see
Speaker 1: that he had he met him a couple of times
Speaker 1: leading up to this party. When he met him those times,
Speaker 1: he had a big, bushy beard. For this party, he
Speaker 1: had whiskers, which means he had cut off his beard
Speaker 1: a couple of days before, right, And so then when
Speaker 1: Russo testifies to the Warren Commission, or maybe it was
Speaker 1: clay Shaw's trial, maybe it was Klayshaw's trial. Actually, he
Speaker 1: took a picture of Lee Harvey Oswald and he drew
Speaker 1: a big beard on him and said, yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: guy right there. Okay, so it was never Oswald. Oswald
Speaker 1: never had a beard, and so who had a beard?
Speaker 1: And he described him as a bearded beatnik? And who
Speaker 1: the hell is the only beatnick in the story, and
Speaker 1: that would be Kerry Thornley. So to me, it's so
Speaker 1: brutally obvious it was Kerry Thornley at the party, which
Speaker 1: is mostly exposed through Kerry Thornley's fifty page AFFI David Damn,
Speaker 1: I feel like a broken record. I've said that like
Speaker 1: a hundred times. But this is some of the most
Speaker 1: important stuff. This party, the Perry Russo party, some of
Speaker 1: the most important stuff. Once you realize, yes, it's Clay
Speaker 1: Shaw and David Ferry and Carrie Thornley and most likely
Speaker 1: Haul Howard and Seymour. The Cubans who were seen there, right,
Speaker 1: they gave aliases and so this is a possibility that
Speaker 1: you could have had Thornley and William Seymour in the
Speaker 1: same place. It's very possible because I'm kind of convinced
Speaker 1: that the people who were alleged to have been Cubans
Speaker 1: there would have been Howard and Lauren Hall, and so
Speaker 1: this would have been September. I have to double check
Speaker 1: my calendar and my timeline on William Seymour's travel. He
Speaker 1: allegedly worked for Beach Welding until mid October, but I
Speaker 1: don't believe that at all, because there were sightings of
Speaker 1: him in Los Angeles going under the name of Techs
Speaker 1: at a time when he was supposed to be at
Speaker 1: Beach welding, And so that story's bullshit. It's another front job.
Speaker 1: He's a CIA guy. So where was William Seymour if
Speaker 1: he wasn't at this party? Also, again, this is speculation
Speaker 1: on my part, but it's kind of educated speculation. And
Speaker 1: the date here, September sixteenth, very important. Why because this
Speaker 1: coincides with when carry Thorny got back to New Orleans
Speaker 1: from Whittier, California, where when he was out there he
Speaker 1: met up at Lauren Hall and Warren Reynolds at the
Speaker 1: State's Rights party. And he then comes back to New
Speaker 1: Orleans and he's back September fourth. On his way back
Speaker 1: in late August and early September, the first couple of days,
Speaker 1: he passes through Mexico City. In his second trip to
Speaker 1: Mexico City, he stopped there and it's not even on
Speaker 1: the way, it's way out of the fucking way. So
Speaker 1: he went there for a reason, and it wasn't just
Speaker 1: to go fucking play highlight or watch highlight in bullfighting.
Speaker 1: And so I believe the two trips that he made
Speaker 1: to Mexico City were set ups for the impersonation of
Speaker 1: Oswald that he did when he went back at Lates
Speaker 1: in late September. Right the twenty sixth, he allegedly crosses
Speaker 1: the border into Mexico and on the twenty seventh, Oswald
Speaker 1: was still in New Orleans get closing out his PO
Speaker 1: box from the Wiseberg and Garrison files. So that whole
Speaker 1: that two or three day period of late September is
Speaker 1: crucial in determining who was where, because William Seymour was
Speaker 1: at Odeo's around the twenty seventh, and Oswald allegedly crossed
Speaker 1: the border into Mexico City on the twenty sixth. Clearly
Speaker 1: Carrie Thornley and then Oswald, the person we know is
Speaker 1: Oswald is actually in New Orleans closing out his PEO box, right,
Speaker 1: so he didn't he couldn't a crossed the border, and
Speaker 1: none of that stuff is obviously not him. So now
Speaker 1: we have within a two to two day period the
Speaker 1: twenty sixth and twenty seventh, we can clearly say we
Speaker 1: have all three of Oswald and his two impersonators in
Speaker 1: three different places, impersonating Oswald and then Oz the real
Speaker 1: Oswald in a document that's mostly been scuttled, showing he
Speaker 1: closed out his po box on either I forget if
Speaker 1: it was a twenty sixth or probably I think it
Speaker 1: was the twenty seventh actually, and so, yeah, all this
Speaker 1: makes perfect sense to me. All right, where was I? So? Yeah,
Speaker 1: back to the Perry Russo Perry Russo party. Very important um.
Speaker 1: Following Faery's rapid fire dissertation, said Russo, the talk switched
Speaker 1: to escape. Ferry declared in favor of a flight to
Speaker 1: Brazil with a refueling stop in Mexico, or a more
Speaker 1: risky hop directly at Cuba. It is a source of
Speaker 1: puzzlement why Ferry would want to go to Cuba, given
Speaker 1: his anti Castro stance. Bertrand disagreed on the grounds that
Speaker 1: were of the assassination would spread too fast to permit
Speaker 1: a long flight. Shut up and leave him alone, interjected
Speaker 1: Leon Oswald, whom Russo said was Lee Harvey Oswald. He's
Speaker 1: the pilot, A washed up pilot, huffed Bertrand, alluding to
Speaker 1: Fairi's dismissal from Eastern Airlines for homosexual convictions. From the conversation,
Speaker 1: Russo deduced that none of the three intended to participate
Speaker 1: actively in the assassination. Ferry suggested they should be in
Speaker 1: public eye on the day of the attempt. He himself
Speaker 1: would make a speech at a nearby college. Bertrand said
Speaker 1: he would go to the West coast on business, and
Speaker 1: Oswald said nothing, so okay. So Ferry suggested they should
Speaker 1: all be in the public eye on the day of
Speaker 1: the attempt. He himself would make a speech at a
Speaker 1: nearby college. Okay. So he ends up at a college
Speaker 1: Southeastern in Louisiana in Hammond the night of the assassination.
Speaker 1: So he's kind of sticking to how he had previously
Speaker 1: set it up. Right, Let me continue. Clay Shaw was
Speaker 1: indeed on the West Coast on business on November twenty second. No,
Speaker 1: he wasn't. We don't know that. We don't know where
Speaker 1: he was the twenty second, third, or fourth, because he
Speaker 1: didn't show up on the West coast until the twenty fifth. Well,
Speaker 1: allegedly on the twenty second he was in San Francisco
Speaker 1: having a fucking lunch with somebody. He has one alibi
Speaker 1: witness out there, But give me break. These guys fabricate
Speaker 1: fucking witnesses so that you can put no stock into
Speaker 1: so he didn't show up until the twenty fifth in Portland,
Speaker 1: I believe it was, and so I'm actively trying to
Speaker 1: attempt to put him in Dallas, which I'm pretty confident
Speaker 1: he was, and Dawson has put him in Dallas already,
Speaker 1: so let me continue. Two weeks previously, his manager at
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Trademark had written the San Francisco Trademark
Speaker 1: that Shaw would be passing through on that date and
Speaker 1: would like to discuss mutual interests with their executives. At
Speaker 1: the moment when Kennedy was killed, Shaw was conferring with
Speaker 1: the San Francisco Men, a Trademark CIA organization. Ferry also
Speaker 1: had an alibi of sorts. A New Orleans attorney is
Speaker 1: fairly certain that on Black Friday, the eccentric little Man
Speaker 1: was in his law office around twelve fifteen pm. Fairy
Speaker 1: contended he was in New Orleans until late in the afternoon,
Speaker 1: when he and his two young roommates left on an
Speaker 1: impromptu trip to Texas. How they wann't roomates to hunt geese.
Speaker 1: On the surface, it was a wild goose chase. The
Speaker 1: trio drove to Houston on Friday to Galveston on Saturday,
Speaker 1: returned to New Orleans on Sunday, over one thousand miles,
Speaker 1: but Garrison has witnesses who swear that Ferry spent several
Speaker 1: hours at a Houston's skating rink waiting by the telephone.
Speaker 1: It was a curious junket at a curious time, so
Speaker 1: curious that Garrison, on his own initiative, arrested and held
Speaker 1: the three for FBI investigation of subversive activity. Garrison charges
Speaker 1: only that the machinations in Ferry's apartment set in motion
Speaker 1: events that culminated in the assassination. What direction the substantive
Speaker 1: plot may have taken from there is hinted at in
Speaker 1: the further testimony of Russo. He had met Ferry, he
Speaker 1: said first four years earlier through the Civil Air Patrol activity,
Speaker 1: and frequently was invited to his apartment. There had been
Speaker 1: a party before the meeting on the evening in question,
Speaker 1: and Russo had lingered after the rest of the guests.
Speaker 1: Among the last to leave were several Cubans and military fatigues,
Speaker 1: two of whom he were called by their first names,
Speaker 1: Manuel and a name that sounded like Julian. Manuel, Garrison
Speaker 1: suspects is the missing Manuel Garcia gonzales I don't know
Speaker 1: about that. We'll see, We'll see. The bizarre quality of
Speaker 1: Fairy's life followed him into the death. After being questioned
Speaker 1: by Garrison, he muttered he did not have long to live.
Speaker 1: The cause of death, the coroner revealed, had been in
Speaker 1: embolism at the base of the brain, induced by hypertension.
Speaker 1: But a brain embolism can also be caused by a
Speaker 1: deftly administered karate chop to the neck, and some other
Speaker 1: people die by karate chop to the neck, a technique
Speaker 1: which possibly killed Dallas reporter Jim Cothi, who had participated
Speaker 1: in an enigmatic meeting at Jack Ruby's apartment the night
Speaker 1: Oswald was murdered. Ramparts November nineteen sixty six. That's him,
Speaker 1: Jim Coty, an inveterate activist. Fairy solicited funds for Castro
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty eight, then bitterly turned against him when
Speaker 1: he struck his communist colors. According to former Havana journalist
Speaker 1: Diego Gonzalez, Tendadera, Faerry flew fire bomb raids and refugee
Speaker 1: rescue missions to Cuba from Florida in a twin engine
Speaker 1: Piper Apache owned by Eladio de la A, an ex
Speaker 1: Baptista official who had escaped to Miami with considerable wealth.
Speaker 1: Fairry reportedly was paid one thousand to fifteen hundred emission,
Speaker 1: depending on the risk involved. The caper ended in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty one, when US government agents confiscated the Apache and
Speaker 1: Ferry headed for New Orleans. On February twenty second, the
Speaker 1: day Fairry died in New Orleans, del Valla's head was
Speaker 1: split by a powerful blow with a machete or hatchet,
Speaker 1: and he was shot over the heart. Miami police, noting
Speaker 1: that he had been involved in narcotic smuggling, excuse me
Speaker 1: called in a gangland called it a gangland slang. After
Speaker 1: the Bay of Pigs, Faery boasted he had taken part
Speaker 1: in the invasion, and indeed it has come to light
Speaker 1: that a CIA directed diversionary strike had been launched from
Speaker 1: a hidden base in the New Orleans area. The loquacious
Speaker 1: pilot was openly hostile to President Kennedy for failing to
Speaker 1: commit American military might against Castro. On one occasion, the
Speaker 1: speech he was giving before New Orleans Chapter of Military
Speaker 1: Order World Wars turned into a diatribe against Kennedy. For
Speaker 1: a double cross of Invasion Force. Of the Invasion Force,
Speaker 1: several members walked out, and the chairman abruptly adjourned the meeting.
Speaker 1: During this period, the conspicuous ferry was frequently noticed by
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Cuban colony in the company of Sergei
Speaker 1: Arcacha Smith, local director of the Anti Castro Cuban Democratic
Speaker 1: Revolutionary Front. New Orleans Police intelligence records reflected states at
Speaker 1: the Washington Post said that the front was a legitimate
Speaker 1: in nature. It was legitimate in nature and presumably had
Speaker 1: the unofficial sanction of the CIA. The Lake Pontatrain waterfront,
Speaker 1: near Arcacha's home, seems to have become a focus for
Speaker 1: mysterious meetings. Various Garrison witnesses claimed to have seen ferry there,
Speaker 1: as well as an exchange of money between Oswald and Shaw.
Speaker 1: All right, let me comment on that real quick. So
Speaker 1: the Lake Ponta train training camp, I've read a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff on it, and none of it is conclusive
Speaker 1: in any way, none of his firsthand. But what appears
Speaker 1: to have happened there is that. Well, let me start
Speaker 1: with Jerry Hemming. Jerry Hemming said that that camp never
Speaker 1: got off the ground and they were just kind of
Speaker 1: planning it when they got shut down. I also read
Speaker 1: that it was just a warehouse that was storing stuff
Speaker 1: there that was rated and the FBI took all that stuff.
Speaker 1: I can find no definitive evidence that there was ever
Speaker 1: any actual training going on there, and the limited evidence
Speaker 1: that we do have would indicate that they were planning
Speaker 1: for something. There had storage for weapons there, but it
Speaker 1: never actually had any training going on. So that would
Speaker 1: draw in to question a lot of the witness stuff,
Speaker 1: especially here that says money was exchanged between Shawan and Oswald. Okay,
Speaker 1: so who would be training here connected to Jerry Hemming
Speaker 1: and all those guys maybe you know our Trio or
Speaker 1: notorious Trio Hall Howard Seymour, right, And so that draws
Speaker 1: into question the sighting here of Oswald and shaw Not
Speaker 1: to say that I don't believe Oswald and shaw ever interacted.
Speaker 1: I think they did at some point because of the
Speaker 1: statements of Lillian Moratt, but that's another story. So yeah,
Speaker 1: the Lake Ponche Train can't find really anything definitive on it.
Speaker 1: If anybody out there can find anything definitive on or
Speaker 1: names it's associated with people who say they trained out there.
Speaker 1: Please let me know and we'll continue on. By nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty three, Arcacha apparently had been deposed as front director
Speaker 1: for he had moved to Houston in sixty two and
Speaker 1: was living there at the time of the assassination in
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty four. I don't think that's accurate. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's accurate. I'll have to check, because I
Speaker 1: know Garrison tracked him down. He was living in Dallas,
Speaker 1: and Frank Nagy he was also living in Dallas. A
Speaker 1: lot of people were living in Dallas, so I'll have
Speaker 1: to double check on that. But I do know he
Speaker 1: did live in Houston at some point and he worked
Speaker 1: for a hotel there. I had contacted the hotel to
Speaker 1: see if they had any records on him, and they
Speaker 1: said they don't have any records, they don't know who
Speaker 1: to send me to or none of that stuff. So
Speaker 1: that was a dead end. And the hotel is now
Speaker 1: that he worked at is now under the ownership of
Speaker 1: like a preservation society kind of thing, so but it
Speaker 1: is still there. Let me continue. In nineteen sixty four,
Speaker 1: he moved to Dallas. Oh, there we go, duh. Sixty four.
Speaker 1: He moved to Dallas when Garrison investigators recently sought to
Speaker 1: question him. He refused to talk without police and assistant
Speaker 1: DA Bill Alexander present. Why wed we want Bill Alexander present?
Speaker 1: Interesting connection there, huh? However, Garrison security warrant charging him
Speaker 1: with conspiring with Ferry and when Gordon Develle to burglarize
Speaker 1: an explosives depot of the salamberge While Services Company near
Speaker 1: New Orleans in August of sixty one, our coach is
Speaker 1: presently free on Bonn. The strange behavior of Gordon Develle
Speaker 1: lends still another piquant ingredient to the case. Shortly after
Speaker 1: being interrogated by Garrison, he hurriedly sold the French quarter
Speaker 1: bar he owned and left town. I didn't know he
Speaker 1: owned a French quarter bar. He turned up in McClain, Virginia,
Speaker 1: headquarters of Army Intelligence and CIA, blasted the assassination probe
Speaker 1: as a fraud, and noisily submitted to a private light
Speaker 1: detector test given by a former Army intelligence officer. He
Speaker 1: said support that supported his veracity. In Columbus, Ohio, where
Speaker 1: he was arrested on a fugitive warrant obtained by Garrison,
Speaker 1: he cryptically stated, I think Garrison will expose some CIA
Speaker 1: operations in Louisiana and what it called his unpublished account
Speaker 1: of how the explosives disappeared. The New Orleans States item
Speaker 1: claims that Novelle has told several persons that he Ferry
Speaker 1: Arcacha and several Cubans did not steal the munitions, but
Speaker 1: transported them to New Orleans at the instructions of their
Speaker 1: CIA contact just before the Beyepigs invasion in April of
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty one. Furthermore, the State's item says Novelle operated
Speaker 1: a CIA front, the Evergreen Advertising Agency, which prepared cryptographical
Speaker 1: messages contained in radio commercials for Christmas trees that alerted
Speaker 1: agents to the invasion date. Novelle, however, has denied being
Speaker 1: a CIA agent. The mysterious explosive theft dovetailed with another
Speaker 1: angle in Garrison's investigation. In April nineteen sixty one FBI
Speaker 1: raid that uncovered a large cache of arms, ammunition, and
Speaker 1: explosives in a cottage near New Orleans. Garrison's men are
Speaker 1: seeking a group of Cubans said to have accumulated the cash.
Speaker 1: Further ciaad or comfort for the paramilitary right is suggested
Speaker 1: by the role of private eyew Guy Bannister, who with
Speaker 1: a partner named Hugh Hugh f Ward. Hugh f Ward
Speaker 1: guys in the chat can you pull up? Hugh f
Speaker 1: Ward ran a private sleuthing agency in New Orleans. Both
Speaker 1: a former FBI official and a former superintendent of New
Speaker 1: Orleans Police, Banister was noted for his outspoken ultra conservatism.
Speaker 1: His office, according to a State's Item informant, was one
Speaker 1: of the drops for the stolen munitions in nineteen sixty three.
Speaker 1: The ever President David Ferry worked intermittently for him as
Speaker 1: an investigator. While researching an article on the Minutemen ramparts
Speaker 1: January sixty seven, I learned from a defector a Minuteman
Speaker 1: AID who had access to their headquarter files about an
Speaker 1: allied group in New Orleans known as the Anti Communist
Speaker 1: League of the Caribbean. The League was said by the
Speaker 1: AID to have been used by the CIA and its
Speaker 1: engineering of the nineteen fifty four overthrow of the leftist
Speaker 1: ar Benz government in Guatemala. All right, let me pause
Speaker 1: for a second. Okay, So the League was used by
Speaker 1: the CIA and its engineering of the nineteen fifty four
Speaker 1: overthrow the leftist ar Benz and in nineteen fifty four.
Speaker 1: Where was that operation being run by It was being
Speaker 1: run out of Opa Laca. And who was there just
Speaker 1: the year before? Oh no, it was that year, leaving
Speaker 1: in January of nineteen fifty four. Leaving Opa Laca in
Speaker 1: January of fifty four was Robert Oswald. All these same
Speaker 1: people are all caught up in the same cluster of
Speaker 1: intelligence people. So it's wild that anyone would think that
Speaker 1: Oswald was not connected to intelligence. Wild all right. So
Speaker 1: the League was said by the AID to have been
Speaker 1: used by the CIA and its engineering of the fifty
Speaker 1: four overthrow of leftist Arbenz government in Guatemala. The Minuteman
Speaker 1: defector said the names of both Banister and Ward appeared
Speaker 1: in the secret Minutemen files as members of the Minutemen
Speaker 1: and as operatives of the Anti Communism League of the Caribbean.
Speaker 1: Sturgis is connected with this group. Two. He also div
Speaker 1: that militant anti Castro Cubans were exiles or anti Castro
Speaker 1: Cuban exiles were prominent in the Minutemen ranks. With these
Speaker 1: pieces of the puzzle beginning to fit together, Garrison hopes
Speaker 1: to complete the picture, but he will get no help
Speaker 1: from Banister and Ward, potential witnesses to the assassination secrets,
Speaker 1: seemed to have a propensity for dying. In nineteen sixty four, Banister,
Speaker 1: who drank heavily and was given to wild Spreez, suddenly
Speaker 1: died of a heart attack. On May twenty third, sixty five, Ward,
Speaker 1: a commercial pilot, was at the controls of the piper
Speaker 1: Aztec chartered by former New Orleans Mayor de LEPs Morrison,
Speaker 1: when the craft engines sputtering, crashed on a fog shrouded
Speaker 1: hill near Cuidad, Victoria, Mexico. All aboard were killed. Interesting
Speaker 1: next section in brackets. The paramilitary operation at Daily Plaza.
Speaker 1: President Kennedy's murder had all the earmarks of a paramilitary operation.
Speaker 1: The Daily Plaza site was tall buildings at one end,
Speaker 1: at the other end of grassy ole, projecting to within
Speaker 1: a stone's throw of the roadway, and covered by foliage.
Speaker 1: It is the opinion of Garrison's investigators and of this writer,
Speaker 1: that the slowly rolling presidential limousine was trapped in a
Speaker 1: classic gorilla ambush, with simultaneous fire converging from the knoll
Speaker 1: and from multi storied building. This was the triangulation Russo
Speaker 1: said that David Ferry had talked about a sniper in
Speaker 1: the rear position to divert the public's attention, while the
Speaker 1: sniper in front could fire the shot that would do
Speaker 1: the job. In fact, it was, in fact the frontal
Speaker 1: fire that did the dreadful job. The explosive headshot that
Speaker 1: snapped the president's head backward and literally blew his brains
Speaker 1: into the air could not have been to the effect
Speaker 1: of a high velocity rifle bullet fired from the rear.
Speaker 1: Such bullets pierced cleanly. A nurse at Parkland said that
Speaker 1: when the doctors attempted a tracheotomy on the President, the
Speaker 1: damage was so great the tube pushed out the back
Speaker 1: of his head. Oh oh, interesting was right there For
Speaker 1: a second something caught my attention. Notice they were saying
Speaker 1: that the president's had snapped backward and literally blew his
Speaker 1: brains into the air. And this is way before anyone
Speaker 1: ever saw the the Zapruder film, right, So it's interesting
Speaker 1: that he would say that it was the effect of
Speaker 1: the nasty hollow nose mercury full fulminate bullet generally known
Speaker 1: as a dumb dum, which explodes on impact. That's some speculation,
Speaker 1: and I don't believe it. They wouldn't. They would have
Speaker 1: planted one of those then at the goddamn Parkland Hospital,
Speaker 1: but they didn't. What was planted at Parkland Hospital appointed
Speaker 1: tip three oh three round, So obviously what was used
Speaker 1: as fucking knoll appointed tip three h three round from
Speaker 1: a fucking probably an Enfield three oh three. Duh. This
Speaker 1: is like common sense shit. An ex CIA agent who
Speaker 1: had received paramilitary training from the agency advises that the
Speaker 1: CIA supplied this type of bullet to anti Castro forces
Speaker 1: it trained. It has no evidence for that at all, uh,
Speaker 1: or for the use of that ball, I should say.
Speaker 1: The first report of the assassination in Dallas Times Herald
Speaker 1: afternoon addition, before the Warren Commission's three shot magic bullet
Speaker 1: theory was proclaimed, witnesses said six or seven shots were fired.
Speaker 1: A bullet mark on the curb belatedly analyzed by the
Speaker 1: FBI did not show traces of copper, as would have
Speaker 1: been the case had the bullet had been the copper
Speaker 1: jacketed type allegedly fired by Oswald. Quote. There definitely was
Speaker 1: a shot fired from behind that fence, and since witness sm.
Speaker 1: Holland referring to the partially concealed picket fence on the
Speaker 1: grassy ole. Holland, a crusty old railroader who was standing
Speaker 1: on the triple overpass toward which the President's limousine was heading,
Speaker 1: is the rare witness who survived both the bamboozling tactics
Speaker 1: of the Warren Commission and the Secret Service insistence that
Speaker 1: he changed his story. Holland's account is complemented by the
Speaker 1: testimony of the Lately Bowers, who overlooked the parking lot
Speaker 1: at the rear of the grassy and Ole from his
Speaker 1: railroad tower. Bower said he saw two out of state
Speaker 1: automobiles and Texas automobile apparently equipped with a two way radio,
Speaker 1: prowling the lot shortly before the assassination. He also noticed
Speaker 1: two men in the lot near the fence when the
Speaker 1: shots rang out. They were partially obscured by the trees,
Speaker 1: but there was something out of the ordinary, a sort
Speaker 1: of milling around. Jim Garrison agrees that Oswald was no
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel. The DA says the fatal shots came from
Speaker 1: the front. In this context, Oswald's indignant protests while in custody,
Speaker 1: I didn't kill anybody I'm just a patsy may prove
Speaker 1: after Garrison finishes to be true, there is scientific evidence
Speaker 1: tending to support it. The Dallas police made paraffin casts
Speaker 1: of Oswald's hands and right cheek in order to chemically
Speaker 1: test for nitrates. Although many common substances can deposit nitrates,
Speaker 1: the blowback from a gun ordinarily deposits an appreciable amount.
Speaker 1: The test showed positive reactions for both hands, a negative
Speaker 1: reaction for the cheek. Ordinarily, a right handed man who
Speaker 1: has shot both a pistol and a rifle, as Oswald
Speaker 1: was accused of doing, would have nitrates on the right
Speaker 1: hand and cheek. Most likely, the sources of the nitrates
Speaker 1: on oswald hands was fingerprint ink. He had been finger
Speaker 1: and palm printed before the paraffin was applied. Moreover, the
Speaker 1: FBI subjected the casts to nuclear activation analysis, a relatively
Speaker 1: new technique so sensitive it can detect a thimbleful of
Speaker 1: acid in a tank car of water deposits on the casts.
Speaker 1: The FBI reported could not be specifically associated with the
Speaker 1: rifle cartridges, but ballistics expert Cordland Cunningham did not view
Speaker 1: the results as exculpating Oswald a rifle chamber is tightly sealed,
Speaker 1: he testified, and so by its very nature I would
Speaker 1: not expect to find residue on the right cheek of
Speaker 1: a shooter. The explanation seemed so implausible I contacted doctor
Speaker 1: Vincent Gwynn of General Atomics in San Diego, who pioneered
Speaker 1: the development of the NAA process. He said that he
Speaker 1: and Raymond Pinker of the Los Angeles Police Crime Lab
Speaker 1: were also curious about the test and ordered an Italian
Speaker 1: carcano rifle such as Oswald supposedly fired. They fired the
Speaker 1: obsolete weapon, which some authorities think is liable to blow up,
Speaker 1: tested their cheeks. Nitrates from the blowback were present in abundance.
Speaker 1: Next section Lee Harvey Oswald. Another component of the Garrison
Speaker 1: theory is that Oswald was not a dedicated communist at all,
Speaker 1: but an agent of the CIA who may have been
Speaker 1: trained at the agency's facility at Atsugi Air Force Base
Speaker 1: in Japan in nineteen fifty nine. He was a revolutionary
Speaker 1: looking for a revolution, any revolution, and he found a
Speaker 1: cause with the CIA sponsored paramilitary right wing planning the
Speaker 1: overthrow of Castro. The paramilitary right wing is composed of
Speaker 1: numerous factions over which the Minutemen exert a loose hegemony.
Speaker 1: It is cross pollenized with Birchers clanners, and it seems
Speaker 1: to cut off there. Let me see if it picks
Speaker 1: up again. I don't know. I don't know if it
Speaker 1: continues on it says text continued on page twenty four.
Speaker 1: But then we have a couple other little little snippets
Speaker 1: which appear to be from a ramparts article also, so
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's referring back or moving forward
Speaker 1: to what. But let's just go ahead and read through
Speaker 1: what we have next. One says Ferry worked on and
Speaker 1: off for Banister as an investigator, and the mutual affinity
Speaker 1: was such that in nineteen sixty two, when Eastern Airlines
Speaker 1: was in the vein of dismissing Fairy for publicity over
Speaker 1: alleged homosexual acts, Banister appeared at Miami Miami Hearing and
Speaker 1: delivered an impassioned plea on his behalf. When Banister suddenly died,
Speaker 1: the ex pilot evidently acquired part of his files. When
Speaker 1: he realized he was a prime suspect in Garrison's probe,
Speaker 1: Ferry systematically disposed of his papers and documents for the
Speaker 1: years sixty two and sixty three, but in photocopying the
Speaker 1: bibliography of a cancer paper he had written at one
Speaker 1: time he had caged mice in his home on which
Speaker 1: he experimented with cancer implants, he inadvertently overlapped the bottom
Speaker 1: portion of notes recording the dispositions, including the notations copies
Speaker 1: of bees presumably Banister's microfilm files to Atlanta right wingers.
Speaker 1: The Banister files were reputed to be the largest collection
Speaker 1: of anti communist intelligence in Louisiana, and part were sold
Speaker 1: by his widow to the Sovereignty Commission, a sort of
Speaker 1: state HUAC, where a Garrison investigator was able to examine them.
Speaker 1: Banister's filing system was modeled after the FBI's contained files
Speaker 1: on both friends and foes. The ten and twenty three
Speaker 1: classification dealt with Cuban matters. Twenty three DASH five, for example,
Speaker 1: was labeled Cuman Democratic Republic Front a Revolutionary Front, and
Speaker 1: ten two oh nine simply Cuban file. There was a
Speaker 1: main file twenty three Dash fourteen, labeled Shaw file, but
Speaker 1: someone had completely stripped it before Garrison's man got there.
Speaker 1: Continues on the somebody one can surmise from the Gordon
Speaker 1: Devell episode which follows was the CIA. Novella is wanted
Speaker 1: by the DA as a material witness in the nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty one burglary of the sbe Wel Company munitions dump
Speaker 1: near New Orleans. Subpoenaed by the Grand Jury. Last March,
Speaker 1: Novelle fled to McLain, Virginia, next door to the CIA
Speaker 1: complex at Langley, and took a light detector test administered
Speaker 1: by a former Army intelligence officer, which he boasts to
Speaker 1: the press, proved Garrison's probe was a fraud. He then
Speaker 1: skipped first to Montreal and then to Columbus, Ohio, from
Speaker 1: where Governor James Rhodes, in one of the most absurd
Speaker 1: stipulations ever attached to a normally routine procedure, refuses to
Speaker 1: extrad item unless Garrison agrees not to question him on
Speaker 1: the assassination. From his Ohio sanctuary, the fugitive critically cryptically
Speaker 1: asserted that the munition's caper was one of the most
Speaker 1: patriotic burglaries in history. When an enterprising reporter took him
Speaker 1: to a marathon party, Novelle's indiscreet tongue loosened further. According
Speaker 1: to the state's item article, Novell off repeated account that
Speaker 1: was that the munitions bunker was a CIA staging point
Speaker 1: for war material destined for use in the impending Bay
Speaker 1: of Pigs invasion. He's quoted as saying that on the
Speaker 1: day the munitions were picked up, he was called by
Speaker 1: his CIA contact and told to join a group which
Speaker 1: was ordered to transport munitions from the bunker to New Orleans.
Speaker 1: The key to the bunker was provided by a CIA contact.
Speaker 1: Novelle reportedly said. The others in the CIA group at
Speaker 1: the bunker were David Ferry, Sergio Kochia Smith, New Orleans
Speaker 1: delegate to the Cuban Democratic Revolutionary Front, and several Cubans.
Speaker 1: The munitions, according to his account, were dropped in Novell's office,
Speaker 1: Ferry's home, in Banister's office storeroom. Okay, then here we go.
Speaker 1: The article picks up. I don't know how well the
Speaker 1: order is, but and it says also is rumored to
Speaker 1: have been tipped the tip off man between the Dallas
Speaker 1: Police and the Dallas Underworld'm talking about Ruby. Now. Ruby
Speaker 1: operated his business on a cash basis, keeping no record whatsoever.
Speaker 1: A strong indication that Ruby himself was involved in illicit
Speaker 1: operations of some sort his primary technique in avoiding prosecution
Speaker 1: was the maintenance of friendship with police officers, public officials,
Speaker 1: and other influential persons in the Dallas community. Nor did
Speaker 1: the letter ignore Ruby's affinity for Cuba. In about nineteen
Speaker 1: fifty nine, Ruby became interested in the possibility of selling
Speaker 1: war materials to Cubans and in the possibility of opening
Speaker 1: a gambling casino in Havana. The pushy entrepreneurs continuing interest
Speaker 1: in Cuba was discussed. CIA instructed the commission's staffers should
Speaker 1: consider the possibility of ties between Ruby and others who
Speaker 1: might have been interested in the assassination of President Kennedy.
Speaker 1: They specifically mentioned a number of people who thought to
Speaker 1: know Ruby, including former Havana gambler Lewis J. McWillie, a
Speaker 1: burchess Iia official, and oilman hl And Lamar hunt. For months,
Speaker 1: the CIA was silent. When finally done by the Commission,
Speaker 1: it simply said that its files contained no information on
Speaker 1: Jack Ruby or his activities or any link with Oswald.
Speaker 1: The reply came after the Commission had concluded its deliberation.
Speaker 1: There is much more to Ruby than meets the eye,
Speaker 1: attests one of Garrison's chief Sleuth's Lewis Gervich. Garrison had
Speaker 1: produced a former Dallas cab driver, Raymond Cummings, who was
Speaker 1: prepared to testify he drove to drove Oswald to Ruby's
Speaker 1: Carousel Club once in the company of David Ferryeah I
Speaker 1: see probably Kerry Thornley once again. There already exists a
Speaker 1: body of evidence tying Oswald to Ruby. For example, there
Speaker 1: is Wilburn Walden Bob Litchfield, the Second, who claimed he
Speaker 1: saw Oswald waiting to see Ruby at the club a
Speaker 1: month before the assassination. Lichfield was waiting to see Ruby
Speaker 1: himself and accurately describe a third man whose presence has
Speaker 1: been verified. There's also Carol Jarnigan, an attorney reputed to
Speaker 1: have a photographic memory. In a voluntary statement to the FBI,
Speaker 1: Jarnigan told of overhearing an ear pricking colloqui between colloquy
Speaker 1: between Oswald and Ruby in the Carousel Club the night
Speaker 1: of October fourth, nineteen sixty three. The gist of it
Speaker 1: was that Oswald was to be hired to assassinate Texas
Speaker 1: Governor John Connolly with a rifle from a high building. Oswald,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Bobby Kennedy had clamped down on racket activity
Speaker 1: in Chicago, and Castro had ousted the American gamblers from Cuba.
Speaker 1: The reasoning was that if the straight laced Connolly could
Speaker 1: be eliminated, Texas, which is right next to Mexico, could
Speaker 1: be opened up and there would be money for everybody.
Speaker 1: Jarnigan's testimony was discounted by the Warran Commission, largely on
Speaker 1: the strength of a lie detector test given by D. A.
Speaker 1: Henry Wade. The result, claimed Wade, was that Jarnigan was sincere,
Speaker 1: but his story was fanciful, a determination well beyond the
Speaker 1: capacity of a polygraph. Ruby's gangster links are well established,
Speaker 1: and his connection with one Paul Rowland Jones is a
Speaker 1: story in itself. Jones averred that he had been introduced
Speaker 1: to Ruby in Chicago in the late nineteen forties by
Speaker 1: several syndicate hoods, and later got to know Jack and
Speaker 1: his sister Eva, who ran the Singapore Club in Dallas,
Speaker 1: quite well. He had come to Dallas as an emissary
Speaker 1: of the mob to negotiate a piece of the action.
Speaker 1: He approached then Sheriff Steve Guthrie, an obscure lieutenant on
Speaker 1: the Police force George Butler to arrange for protection. The
Speaker 1: two pretended to play along and then sprung a trap
Speaker 1: on Jones and charged him with bribery. Butler became a
Speaker 1: hero of sorts and was tapped to assist the Kafoffer
Speaker 1: Committee in its nineteen fifties racket hearings. But Jones told
Speaker 1: the FBI believes Butler was at first in ernst and
Speaker 1: wanted to pay off. Wanted to pay off, desisting only
Speaker 1: when he learned that Texas Rangers were wise to the negotiations.
Speaker 1: Butler a still living lieutenant working out of the Juvenile Bureau.
Speaker 1: The assignment seemingly permits him leeway for his activities as
Speaker 1: the self professed leader of extreme right wing elements on
Speaker 1: the force. In nineteen sixty one, while in rural Midlothian, Texas,
Speaker 1: to make an anti communist speech, he offered Penn Jones Junior,
Speaker 1: the scrappy editor of the Midlothian Mirror, the opportunity to
Speaker 1: print a statewide newspaper under the auspices of the ku
Speaker 1: klux Klan. He boasted. Jones said that one half of
Speaker 1: the police force belonged to the KKK. He frequently escorts
Speaker 1: hl Hunt to various public engagements. It was Lieutenant George
Speaker 1: Butler who was in overall charge of the transfer of
Speaker 1: Oswald on November twenty fourth, and who gave the all
Speaker 1: clear to bring the prisoner into the basement. Major hint,
Speaker 1: right there, Lieutenant George Butler was in charge of the
Speaker 1: overall transfer of Oswald and who was Jack Ruby's longest
Speaker 1: running friend in Dallas, Lieutenant George Butler. So there you go.
Speaker 1: There's the whole basement conspiracy in a nutshell. Early in
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty nine, when Castro came to power, Ruby looked
Speaker 1: covetously at Cuba. He made overtures to sell surplus jeeps
Speaker 1: to the Cuban premiere and tried to wrangle a letter
Speaker 1: of introduction from a known Castro partisan in Houston. Late
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty nine, he visited Gambler Lewis mcwilli and
Speaker 1: Havana on what he later called up purely social trip.
Speaker 1: While there, he boasted to at least two US citizens,
Speaker 1: and he was in with both sides. Most prominent of
Speaker 1: the anti castrotes, whose friendship he claimed was Orlando Massferer,
Speaker 1: a Batista henchman. Ruby's Cuba interests It's kind of funny
Speaker 1: because Orlando mass For was the same name given by
Speaker 1: Lauren Hall as a friend of his when asked about
Speaker 1: the odio stuff. So Lewis McWillie and Jack Ruby have
Speaker 1: a mutual friend with Lauren Hall. Kind of interesting, huh.
Speaker 1: Remember Lauren Hall worked in Batista's army, I think, or
Speaker 1: was it Castro's army. He worked in Castro's army, so
Speaker 1: he probably knew these guys from the Cuba stuff that
Speaker 1: was going on in the late fifties. Ruby's Cuba interest
Speaker 1: in crime syndica connections converged in the testimony of Nancy
Speaker 1: Perrin Rich, a fast living young lady four times around
Speaker 1: the marriage cycle and a one time police informant. In
Speaker 1: June sixty two, she arrived in Dallas on the heels
Speaker 1: of her then husband Robert Perrin, who at various times
Speaker 1: had been a bodyguard to top hoodlums, a narcotic smuggler,
Speaker 1: and a gun runner to Franco and in Clump's ferry,
Speaker 1: desperately studied medicine to try to halt the process. Oh
Speaker 1: so it looks like it jumps around here again. What
Speaker 1: pages this? Now? We're on fifty two on before oh
Speaker 1: twenty seven. Okay, so this thing's jumping around something. It
Speaker 1: must be talking about his hair. A fairy desperately studied
Speaker 1: medicine to try to halt the process until his body
Speaker 1: was entirely devoid of hair. One speculation is that he
Speaker 1: was moonlighting and suffered a psychological reaction to exposure to
Speaker 1: the extreme altitudes required for clandestine flights. Chinese national listen
Speaker 1: to this people. Very important Chinese nationalist YouTube pilots reportedly
Speaker 1: have suffered the same hair loss phenomenon. One of Fairry's
Speaker 1: covert tasks in New Orleans area was to drill small
Speaker 1: teams in guerrilla warfare. One of his young proteges has
Speaker 1: revealed that he trained some of his Civil Air Patrol
Speaker 1: cadets and Cubans and formed them into five man small
Speaker 1: weapons units. This under the auspices of the Marine Corps
Speaker 1: and State Department. Coupled with this the information from another
Speaker 1: former protege that Ferry confided he was working for the
Speaker 1: CIA recruiting Cubans at of Castro's prisons, and on one
Speaker 1: occasion was called to Miami so that the CIA could
Speaker 1: test him to see if he was the type of
Speaker 1: person who would who told his business to anybody. In
Speaker 1: a speech before the Military Order of World Wars in
Speaker 1: New Orleans in late sixty one, Ferry related that he
Speaker 1: had trained pilots in Guatemala for the Bay of Pigs
Speaker 1: and professed bitter disappointment that they were not used. Clay Shaw,
Speaker 1: and international trade official with top level contacts in Latin
Speaker 1: America and Europe, would have been a natural target for
Speaker 1: CIA recruitment. Gordon Novelle, who was acquainted with Shaw, was
Speaker 1: quoted by the State Department or by the State's Item
Speaker 1: as venturing that Shaw may have been asked by the
Speaker 1: CIA to observe the traffic of foreign commerce through New Orleans.
Speaker 1: More persuasive is Shaw's membership on the board of directors
Speaker 1: of a firm called Centre Mondial Commercial in Rome. According
Speaker 1: to the newspaper pas A Serrah of Rome and Le
Speaker 1: d'uvoir of Montreal, among others. To the foreign press, CMC
Speaker 1: was an obscure but well financed firm that was ousted
Speaker 1: from Italy by the police because it was suspected of
Speaker 1: being a CIA front. It transplanted its operations to the
Speaker 1: more friendly climate of Johannesburg, South Africa, where it still functions.
Speaker 1: The same group that incorporated CMC also set up a
Speaker 1: firm called Permandex Corporation in Switzerland, but that company was
Speaker 1: dissolved by the Swiss government when it was proved to
Speaker 1: be a conduit for funds destined for the secret Army
Speaker 1: organization the oas a group of right wing French officers
Speaker 1: dedicated to keeping Algeria French by force of arms. The
Speaker 1: composition of CMC group with which Shaw was associated is
Speaker 1: of more than cursory interest, since it includes a former
Speaker 1: US intelligence officer now an executive of the Bank of Montreal,
Speaker 1: the publisher of the neo Nazi national Zeitgung of Germany,
Speaker 1: Prince Getier Batafora, an Italian industrialist related by marriage to
Speaker 1: Hitler's finance minister Halmar Shocked. Just a side note, Helmar
Speaker 1: Shocked appeared on a talk show with Marguerite Oswald Let
Speaker 1: me continue, and the lawyer to the Italian royal family
Speaker 1: and secretary of the Italian Neo Fascist Party. Through his attorney,
Speaker 1: Shaw has stated he joined the board of CMC directors
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty eight at the insistence of his own
Speaker 1: board of directors of the International trademark of New Orleans.
Speaker 1: That's a very interesting piece of information. On August first,
Speaker 1: sixty three, the front page of the State's Item carried
Speaker 1: two news stories which Garrison assert symbolized the bitter end
Speaker 1: of the paramilitary rights tolerance of John F. Kennedy. A
Speaker 1: treaty signing set on Monday was the lead to one
Speaker 1: story disclosing that the test Ban Treaty was about to
Speaker 1: become reality and that a NATO warsaw Block Non Aggression
Speaker 1: Act was in the wind. Explosives Cash home lent to
Speaker 1: Cuban says owner's wife announced the lead to another story
Speaker 1: telling of an FBI raid on a military training site
Speaker 1: in Arms Cash on the north side of Lake ponttrain
Speaker 1: O Here we Go. Agents had seized more than a
Speaker 1: ton of dynamite, twenty one hundred pound bomb casings, fuses,
Speaker 1: napalm ingredients, and other war materials. See it doesn't say
Speaker 1: anything about anybody being arrested, doesn't say anything about anybody
Speaker 1: being there or anyone had done any training. Just says
Speaker 1: the stuff was stored there, which I think is kind
Speaker 1: of the case the Whipshaw Developments. Kennedy's patent determination to
Speaker 1: affect a reproachment with the communist nation, on the one hand,
Speaker 1: is cracked down under the Neutrality Act on anti Castro
Speaker 1: paramilitary groups, on the other triggered a rage against the
Speaker 1: president that would find vent in his assassination. The true
Speaker 1: nature of the group rated at Lake Ponttrain was not
Speaker 1: evident from the story. The FBI announced no arrests, and
Speaker 1: the wife of the property owner, Missus William J. Mcclaney
Speaker 1: William J. Mcclaney, guys in the chat can you pull
Speaker 1: that up? Gave out the cover story that the premises
Speaker 1: had been loaned out to a newly arrived Cuban named
Speaker 1: Jose Warez as a favorite of friends, Jose Warez, let's
Speaker 1: look that up too. Mclaney had been well known as
Speaker 1: a gambler associated with the Tropicana Hotel in Havana before
Speaker 1: being ousted by Castro in nineteen sixty. According to information
Speaker 1: leaked to Garrison by another government agency, the FBI had
Speaker 1: in fact arrested eleven men then quietly released them. Among
Speaker 1: those in the net was Acelo Pedro and Morris, believed
Speaker 1: to be former Baptista official who slipped out of Cuba
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty. Also caught was Richard Lotchley Junior, one
Speaker 1: of the founders of the Minutemen. Lotchley, who possessed a
Speaker 1: federal license to manufacture weapons in Collinsville, Illinois machine Shop,
Speaker 1: was arrested again in nineteen sixty four. Treasury investigators posing
Speaker 1: as agents of South American Country trapped him in a
Speaker 1: deal to sell a huge quantity of illicit automatic arms.
Speaker 1: The others arrested were American adventurers in Cuban exiles. Garrison
Speaker 1: believes that the assassination team at Daily Plaza included renegade
Speaker 1: Minutemen operating without the knowledge of the group's central headquarters.
Speaker 1: Freelance terrorism has played Minutemen national coordinator Robert Depew since
Speaker 1: the organization's inception, and there have been several aboardive assassination
Speaker 1: schemes hatched by individual cliques. For example, in nineteen sixty two,
Speaker 1: a Dallas extremist using the pseudonym John Morris was given
Speaker 1: money by a Minutemen clique at the Liberty Hall or
Speaker 1: the Liberty Mall in Kansas City to subsidize the sniper
Speaker 1: slaying of Senator J. William Fulbright of Arkansas. The plan
Speaker 1: called for Morris to escape in a plane flown by
Speaker 1: a texasman, but Depew got wind of it and aborted it.
Speaker 1: In a Cuban exile close to Guy Bannister told him
Speaker 1: that in ninety sixty two who Minuteman Banister seriously discussed
Speaker 1: putting poison in the air conditioning ducks in the Havana
Speaker 1: Palace and killing all the occupants. The latest plot surface
Speaker 1: was formulated in Dallas in September nineteen sixty six. Its
Speaker 1: target was Stanley Marcus of the Nieman Marcus Department Store,
Speaker 1: a pro United Nations liberal who somehow managed to thrive
Speaker 1: in rigidly conservative Dallas. Ooh, I think he was the
Speaker 1: one who was married to Elizabeth Forsling Harris. I think
Speaker 1: Stanley Marcus was married to Elizabeth Forsling Harris. At some point,
Speaker 1: according to an informant who was present, several Minutemen decided
Speaker 1: to ambush Marcus outside of Dallas because another assassination in
Speaker 1: Dallas would be too much. Again, there was a leak
Speaker 1: and the plan fell through. However, as the Warren Report
Speaker 1: might phrase it, such schemes established a propensity to kill
Speaker 1: on the part of the radical right. Minutemen has become
Speaker 1: an almost generic term for the paramilitary right as far
Speaker 1: as and far from homogeneous movement. Some elements are driven
Speaker 1: primarily by and then it cuts off again and it
Speaker 1: jumps around again. So all right, this looks like a
Speaker 1: good place to break for the day. We'll pick up.
Speaker 1: We will pick up here, probably tomorrow, because I'm really
Speaker 1: enjoying this stuff, and that will do it for me today. Guys,
Speaker 1: if you haven't picked up my book yet, please go
Speaker 1: pick up my book. I don't really have anything on
Speaker 1: the agenda except the new book I'm working on should
Speaker 1: be out sometime in February, and that's gonna do it. Thanks, guys.