WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.440 --> 00:00:03.520 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on 2 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:08.839 Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services Ensure 3 00:00:08.919 --> 00:00:10.679 your most prized possessions. 4 00:00:13.960 --> 00:00:16.760 Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball here 5 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:20.199 on Fox Sports fourteen fifty on Steve Rivera and with 6 00:00:20.280 --> 00:00:23.440 me the day's Dave Silver. And we got a special 7 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:26.640 guest here. I was with him for lunch, George Ferranti 8 00:00:26.719 --> 00:00:29.440 from the Elsne George, how are you? 9 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:31.600 And things are great up here in the foothills up 10 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:33.600 two s on Arizona. We're just looking forward to the 11 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:36.320 holiday season and looking for some of those football and 12 00:00:36.359 --> 00:00:37.200 basketball games. 13 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:38.880 You didn't know that we were neighbors. 14 00:00:39.079 --> 00:00:41.799 Hey, I just saw you guys sign on the building 15 00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:43.719 and I said, hey, those guys moved up the hill. 16 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:44.640 Congratulations. 17 00:00:45.520 --> 00:00:47.600 Really abow to find him too, right? 18 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:49.799 Right? No days with us? A big weekend. You're talking 19 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:53.240 about you a sports big game tonight, right. I don't 20 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:54.840 know how big, but it's a big game because there 21 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:57.520 was only can't afford to lose right in basketball, and 22 00:00:57.560 --> 00:01:00.520 in about more than sixty hours, I think whatever it's 23 00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:02.079 going to be forty eight hours, not for sure, but 24 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:06.439 it's about sixty hours Arizona faces ASU in another big 25 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:10.040 rivalry game, So we'll talk Let's talk a little bit 26 00:01:10.120 --> 00:01:13.200 about basketball now and then some up to date. So 27 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:14.920 I'm not going to have any breaking news at the 28 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:17.040 top of the hour, so we could talk about stuff 29 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:22.519 that went on today. The women's basketball team lost again, right, David. 30 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:25.680 Yeah, they lost again in Palm Springs. 31 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:28.719 Yeah, to cal a team that they've pretty familiar with 32 00:01:28.760 --> 00:01:30.560 over their pack twelve years and wound if they had 33 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:32.920 to play them again and they wind up losing. So 34 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:36.359 for the second straight day back out there. It didn't 35 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:37.959 work out too well for Idea's. 36 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:39.879 Team, right, and they missed one of their best players. 37 00:01:39.879 --> 00:01:43.840 I think today she was out for personal reasons or 38 00:01:43.879 --> 00:01:44.560 family reasons. 39 00:01:44.920 --> 00:01:47.040 Yeah, that's what they were saying. So they were shorthanded. 40 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:49.719 They've the name. I'm gonna have to look it up again. 41 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:51.959 I hate to say. I yeah, I was watching that. 42 00:01:52.480 --> 00:01:54.319 I was paying attention when I was at with with 43 00:01:54.359 --> 00:01:57.840 George eating some of his great food out there as 44 00:01:58.079 --> 00:02:00.760 Celias Soria Soria, I think it is. I can't remember. 45 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:04.319 Anybody want to call, you can let us know, so 46 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:05.959 it is what it is. 47 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:09.360 Yeah, I mean, you know, in these early season events 48 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:11.120 you want to you want to win. I mean, hopefully 49 00:02:11.159 --> 00:02:12.879 you're kind of set up to win at least one 50 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:15.759 of those games. And they lose e Vanderbilt, you know, 51 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:17.400 I don't know how good they are, but they lose 52 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:19.560 that game. And then today they you know, they come 53 00:02:19.599 --> 00:02:22.520 up short against Cal. They've been they were ahead. They've 54 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:25.400 kind of had this this strange trend of building a 55 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:27.159 lead and then losing the lead, usually like in the 56 00:02:27.159 --> 00:02:29.639 second quarter, and then never being able to come back. 57 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:31.840 Right right now, we'll see. Have you been to a 58 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:32.719 women's game in a while. 59 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:33.159 Probably not. 60 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:34.719 I haven't been to a men's game. I used to 61 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:36.759 see quite a bit of the women's softball. 62 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:37.280 Oh yeah. 63 00:02:37.800 --> 00:02:40.240 And then but a buddy of mine that was Ivy 64 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:42.719 League are playing quite a bit of college ball. He says, Uh, 65 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:48.360 finish up strong, they always they child in the how 66 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:49.560 he drilled in my. 67 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:52.520 Head right right. That's in life too, that's in business, 68 00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:53.840 Like you got you finished strong. 69 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:55.000 You're telling me about it. 70 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:56.360 You know, you can't just go out there and set 71 00:02:56.439 --> 00:02:59.120 up and make a whole fan fade, pay the announcers 72 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:01.240 and pay the supporting guys and then. 73 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:05.919 Have the great uniforms you've got to actually get there right, right, 74 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:06.960 that's what makes a winner. 75 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:09.560 I think, Yeah, no, no, you're right, and playing hard. 76 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:11.639 We talk about this all the time, Dave, Dave and 77 00:03:11.639 --> 00:03:13.879 I and everybody else will on the show. That's one 78 00:03:13.879 --> 00:03:15.800 of the issues. And we'll talk a little about a 79 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:18.800 lot of different sports. For football, uh, Dave, and we've 80 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:21.680 talked about this a few times. I just I just 81 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:24.840 think that if Arizona played harder, and it's simple as that, 82 00:03:25.319 --> 00:03:27.680 and it's not as simple as that in football, that 83 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:32.000 they could play more closely and have a better chance 84 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:35.159 of winning. I just this is what eleven games toll 85 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:38.680 games now this weekend that if you haven't bought into 86 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:42.080 Brendan's system by now, if you don't know me by now, 87 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:43.479 you'll never never gonna know me. 88 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:46.240 Yeah, well, you know it's they're also now in the 89 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:47.840 in the in the situation where this is it. You know, 90 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:50.879 I'm especially for some of the guys we know are 91 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:52.960 going to be leaving. You know, how hard do they want. 92 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:55.400 Nobody wants to get hurt that kind of thing. You 93 00:03:55.400 --> 00:03:57.240 don't want to get injured the last game of the season, 94 00:03:57.719 --> 00:03:59.000 badly because you could. 95 00:03:58.759 --> 00:04:00.360 Be out for an entire year ahead. 96 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:03.439 Sure, so it'll be interesting to see how they you know, 97 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:05.719 how they come out, what kind of you know oom 98 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:08.439 as you said, they're gonna want to give in this 99 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:08.879 one game. 100 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:11.199 And both you guys have been here, George, you've been 101 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:14.159 here forever, and Dave too, since the early eighties. And 102 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:16.920 I was just on a show with Phoenix, the underdog 103 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:22.120 in this game easily, not easily, but many times more 104 00:04:22.120 --> 00:04:25.000 often than not, wins the game. It was as an 105 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:28.040 eight and a half point underdog. They have hope. 106 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:31.160 You know what I've seen mostly between good good teams 107 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:35.360 and bad teams, or good games and bad games, mostly generated, 108 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:37.759 you know, because it doesn't get You could have these 109 00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:40.560 Class eight teams and I mean D one League teams 110 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:43.160 and they're all playing to a top, top level. But 111 00:04:43.199 --> 00:04:45.839 the difference between them, I think that I see is 112 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:49.079 breaking tackles and making tackles, you know, for the offense, 113 00:04:49.160 --> 00:04:51.879 breaking those tackles and really just giving it, grinding it 114 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:53.920 out to the last moment and the feet and the 115 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:56.639 legs and then on those guys with the hands and 116 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:59.160 make sure that they get down on the defensive end. 117 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:03.360 Yeah. Yeah, Well, and this year, tackling has been an issue. 118 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:04.480 It's been an issue big time. 119 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:06.560 I Mean, there's been so many times where they've had 120 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:09.639 a chance to end the play and it just gets 121 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:12.199 extended by some poor tackling or poor positioning. 122 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:14.120 And that's been kind of the story of the of 123 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:14.399 the year. 124 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:15.920 I mean, that had a great game against Houston a 125 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:17.800 couple of weeks ago, but then they come back and 126 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:19.720 play the way they did last week against TCU. 127 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:21.839 Well, let me ask you. You saw the Houston game, 128 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:24.319 start to watching it? Yeah, so so in fact, one 129 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:26.319 of the guys that talked about, yeah, they beat Houston, 130 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:30.720 but Houston may have been beatable and they, you know, 131 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:32.720 lost a lot of their own stuff. We got a 132 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:34.639 call her already. Hey, hey, you're on the air and 133 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:38.720 eye on the ball. Who's this? Can you hear me? 134 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:40.519 Can you hear me? 135 00:05:42.279 --> 00:05:43.000 I can hear you. 136 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:45.399 Yeah, who's this? 137 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:46.560 This is Jeff Amerschmid. 138 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:50.720 Jeff, Jeff, you're going right to that waiting to go 139 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:51.480 to the waiting room. 140 00:05:51.839 --> 00:05:53.920 Well there is no waiting room, Jeff. You want to? 141 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:56.959 You want to? You're about ten minutes ahead of time. 142 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:01.279 I I yeah, usually to be early told me to 143 00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:04.399 kick my as. Yeah, Hey, I thought I was gonna 144 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:04.720 sit and. 145 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:06.560 Now I was gonna sit and listen to you guys 146 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:07.879 for a while, and then I then. 147 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:11.199 I, well, hold on, hold on, let's let's do this 148 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:13.240 because where you have to go, I know you have 149 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:16.000 to go. We'll take We'll take a break after we 150 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:18.279 talked to about you know, three eighteen, and then let 151 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:21.040 you go take a commercials and kind of move things around. 152 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:23.439 How you doing whatever you want to do, Let's do this, 153 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:27.319 Let's do this. You in Colorado? You in Colorado? 154 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:32.000 Yep, yep, okay, so you're. 155 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:34.240 Watching from Afar? Is your TV safe if things go bad? 156 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:38.519 My no, I'm sitting in my car outside of the 157 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:40.040 where I have my meeting a little bit. 158 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:42.360 No, no, no, I'm talking about when you watch the game? 159 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:43.680 Is your TV saying. 160 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:47.759 Oh yeah, no, no, my TV is not safe? 161 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:52.279 Ones and friends yea, yeah, loved ones. 162 00:06:52.360 --> 00:06:55.319 No, I don't have any any of loved ones. My 163 00:06:55.480 --> 00:06:58.800 kids just run. They don't care about Arizona. So but 164 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:01.680 my daughter's going to you Boulder, so she doesn't care. 165 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:04.600 But my son has a little bit of an interest, 166 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:06.240 and so I just like to. 167 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:08.160 Sit by myself and throw stuff at the Kimi. 168 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:12.000 You guys typically do what do you have you watched 169 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:13.439 many games. It's not all of them. 170 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:18.319 I watched an well, yeah, every time you guys are playing, 171 00:07:18.360 --> 00:07:21.879 every Arizona's playing, it's I'm watching, and then it's you know, 172 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:23.720 I end up going to I go to a couple 173 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:26.680 of games at the Colorado State I kind of uh, 174 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:29.439 there's some players and stuff that kind of tailgate and 175 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:31.800 do some things. So I hang out with them, and 176 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:33.439 and then I go down to see you Boulder and 177 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:35.600 see my daughter and go to I've been to like 178 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:38.199 three or four games and my brother. My brother coaches 179 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:41.920 at Oklahoma State, so they play Oklahoma State plays see you, 180 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:45.240 So I I head down there and and I'll I'll 181 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:48.439 head down there tomorrow. I guess Friday they play. 182 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:51.000 So in your coaching, I and and the things that 183 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:53.720 you do when you're scouting from the past, what the 184 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:56.600 hell's going on with Arizona? And yet don't cuss. I 185 00:07:56.920 --> 00:07:57.519 can't put you on. 186 00:07:57.639 --> 00:07:59.800 No, I'm not and I'm not even and I tell 187 00:07:59.839 --> 00:08:02.040 you I'm not, I'm not. I don't judge. I have 188 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:05.680 a terrible I will. I'm the most boring probably on 189 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:08.399 asking that question because I've been I hate when people 190 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:10.600 talk about what because they don't know what the heck 191 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:14.560 they're talking about. But yeah, it just frustrates me because 192 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:16.759 I because I just know. I mean, I know, I 193 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:20.040 know Brent Brennan very well. I know his brother, I 194 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:23.959 know Duwayna Keena of course and and uh Dino Babers 195 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:27.439 and they're all great brands. Cecil, I mean, god dang. 196 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:30.120 So yeah, I will never say anything bad. I think 197 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:32.679 whatever they're doing is I think it's it's great. I 198 00:08:32.679 --> 00:08:35.120 think they're trying. I think it's hard sometimes these days 199 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:38.519 when guys are you know, I mean injury wise, but 200 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:42.679 there's that portal thing guys don't in and out and 201 00:08:42.720 --> 00:08:44.720 it's it's you got to be on top of that. 202 00:08:44.759 --> 00:08:47.159 And I think that's the that's the thing that they don't. 203 00:08:47.200 --> 00:08:49.879 They'll they'll keep doing, everybody will keep doing, and they'll 204 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:52.440 be they'll be okay. So I go to it's good. 205 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:55.320 I go to these days SeeU games and and gosh ding, 206 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:57.240 it's like I feel like I'm at a I'm at 207 00:08:57.279 --> 00:08:59.840 a dance or something. People are singing and dancing on 208 00:08:59.879 --> 00:09:03.039 the field. They have the players, they who who here 209 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:06.840 we go and it's like I'm like, it's just ridiculous. 210 00:09:06.879 --> 00:09:08.679 But they're winning a lot of football games. So they're 211 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:09.840 start they're doing something right. 212 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:12.000 These days. 213 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:15.320 You know what, I am only I never met him, 214 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:19.159 but I am. But Donnie Salem played with him, and 215 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:22.120 Donnie can't say anything bad about the guy, says he's 216 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:25.120 a he's a really a doubt standing guy. He just 217 00:09:25.279 --> 00:09:27.720 he just for marketing and being all that he does. 218 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:30.440 He just he tries to be over top. He's not 219 00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:33.440 the same guy he is on TV. And he sounds 220 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:36.399 like he's anyway, if Donnie likes him, I like him, 221 00:09:36.440 --> 00:09:40.480 so not to say that's my job, not just because Donnie, 222 00:09:40.519 --> 00:09:43.039 but it's yeah, I mean, I. 223 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:44.639 Yeah, So I go and I am. 224 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:47.279 And he he hired a great staff and and it's 225 00:09:47.320 --> 00:09:50.279 not usually it's it's it's who the guy can get 226 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:50.879 around him. 227 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:53.320 And he's got a lot of people around. 228 00:09:53.080 --> 00:09:56.639 Him that are really doing a good job. So so 229 00:09:57.000 --> 00:10:00.320 for this, yeah, I'm not. I'm not kind of a 230 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:03.720 negative guy. But and I get mad at people online. 231 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:06.559 So I start, I start texting late at night and 232 00:10:06.639 --> 00:10:09.559 I probably shouldn't, but I get mad. I get mad 233 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:13.559 at people, and I'm like, this is ridiculous. But well, yeah, 234 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:17.559 the story. 235 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:17.879 Down here this week obviously it's it's the end of 236 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:21.759 the season, literally, and it's it's the big game that 237 00:10:21.799 --> 00:10:23.399 everybody kind of looks forward to. What are some of 238 00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:26.039 your your memories of this rivalry game? What was it 239 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:27.960 like when you played here and uh, you. 240 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:29.759 Know, and how how much did it mean to you? 241 00:10:29.799 --> 00:10:30.519 How much did it mean? 242 00:10:32.159 --> 00:10:36.000 You know, it was it was a lot, It meant 243 00:10:36.039 --> 00:10:36.399 a lot. 244 00:10:36.639 --> 00:10:40.399 I hate I I still don't like the Sun Devils. 245 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:41.360 I won't let my. 246 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:44.639 Daughter go look at the school. 247 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:47.879 Just it's just I don't know, it's just that I 248 00:10:47.919 --> 00:10:50.080 think when we first got. 249 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:52.720 There, there was that they were so. 250 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:55.759 Good and they were this, and they were that, and 251 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:57.559 and you just learned to hate them. And then a 252 00:10:57.559 --> 00:11:00.120 lot of guys that that I played with. 253 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:02.799 Were weren't recruited by him. 254 00:11:02.799 --> 00:11:04.600 So that was the deal. It was like, hey, you know, 255 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:06.519 they're not going to recruit We're not good enough for them. 256 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:09.559 And it was easy for the whoever the coach was 257 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:13.320 to jump in there and say, you know, hey, you 258 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.039 know this this uh, this place is you know, they 259 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:21.000 these guys are not are not nice people. We see 260 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:26.600 j I'm doing better and but uh yeah, so it's uh, 261 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:30.399 it's fun. I mean, by my first memory, it was 262 00:11:30.440 --> 00:11:32.559 it was. It was, uh, I think I was red 263 00:11:32.600 --> 00:11:35.879 shirting Tom Quinn's red shirt and we're all we're all 264 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:38.440 read shirts. Gary Costin was in the dorms with us. 265 00:11:38.639 --> 00:11:42.440 Gary kicked, you know. So it was the big game. 266 00:11:42.279 --> 00:11:44.480 Which Chuck ran one hundred and six yard one hundred 267 00:11:44.519 --> 00:11:47.200 and seven yard touchdown and it. 268 00:11:47.159 --> 00:11:49.039 Took him, you know, it took him. I think what 269 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:52.120 was it for it? It took him a minute in 270 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:55.440 eighty two seconds to run the link this field because 271 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:59.360 he was never he was never super fast, but yeah, 272 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:01.919 just amazing stuff like that, like that and James the 273 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:04.120 bow just stuffing the guy at the goal line. But 274 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:06.679 Chuck's Chuck's play was kind of like everyone's doing in 275 00:12:06.679 --> 00:12:09.399 the Facebook right now. It's like, what a memory. That's it. 276 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:11.600 That's the one play and it killed. 277 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:14.080 And I grew up in San Diego. Obviously we all 278 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:16.559 went to Helix Chuck and then our rival school was 279 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:20.799 Grossmont and Van Rapports was from Grossmont High School, so 280 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:24.039 they even they even were the rivals in high school 281 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:27.039 and stuff. So it's like you hated that guy and 282 00:12:27.080 --> 00:12:31.240 then you and then Chuck is makes that play and 283 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:34.080 then the next year, this is the one I got 284 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:37.360 to try to clean up. But the next year we 285 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:41.559 go to play up there and this place is nuts 286 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:44.600 in the student section. You guys probably all remember this. 287 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:47.639 But we go out for warm ups and a stretch 288 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:51.120 and everything, and Chuck just can't help himself. So he 289 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:54.000 turns us to face the student. 290 00:12:53.639 --> 00:12:57.080 Section and he starts and he started just. 291 00:12:57.200 --> 00:12:59.200 He just we do all of our jumping decks and 292 00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:04.840 facing them, and some guy, you know, some guy fires 293 00:13:04.879 --> 00:13:07.399 an orange because they were going maybe to the Orange 294 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:09.080 Bowl or something. I don't know what they were doing, 295 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:13.559 but they fired an orange at Chuck and he picked 296 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:15.840 it up like one hot, scooped it and fired it 297 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:18.200 back into the student section. Like I'd like to say 298 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:20.519 he hit somebody, but I don't remember recall that. 299 00:13:21.759 --> 00:13:24.799 But they were channing. I mean, they didn't like Chuck. 300 00:13:24.840 --> 00:13:26.960 I guess they didn't like Chuck because he ran over 301 00:13:27.039 --> 00:13:30.440 someone or something. But they kept yelling, truck you cecil, 302 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:34.759 truck you cecil. And I couldn't figure that out. So 303 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:37.279 and I was just a young kid, So I'm trying 304 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:39.279 to figure out why the whole student section is yelling 305 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:42.360 for Chuck to jump on at to truck somebody or 306 00:13:42.399 --> 00:13:45.039 they're gonna truck cecil. But they kept yelling, Chuck, truck 307 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:46.440 you cecil, trucking you cecil. 308 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:50.360 And then he turns. That's when he he that's. 309 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:53.440 When he started. We started doing jumping jacks. He takes 310 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:55.679 the orange, he fires it back in. I mean, he was. 311 00:13:55.720 --> 00:13:58.240 It was awesome. And then we go we're going in 312 00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:00.919 and this is my first this is my first time. 313 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:04.960 We're watching this and going, holy couch, Chuck's really doing 314 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:09.639 this stuff. He's nuts and uh and you build your 315 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:13.320 hatred starts to go like crazy and then you you 316 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:16.120 start like we go into the locker room and there's 317 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:19.759 a there's a guy that's that's stand old guy. Old guy. 318 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:22.600 This guy, I don't know if he's fifty years old 319 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:23.519 or something like me. 320 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:26.519 But he's but he's sitting there yelling and he starts. 321 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:28.799 Yelling about the truck. He's like, truck, you see some truck. 322 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:33.279 And Chuck jumps up, grabs him, grabs him. He had 323 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:36.039 a great vertical truck. But he grabbed this guy and 324 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:38.320 tried to pull him out of the little stands in 325 00:14:38.360 --> 00:14:41.159 the back of the end zone by the scoreboard, and 326 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:42.279 he tried to pull the. 327 00:14:42.200 --> 00:14:44.759 Guy through the stands and we were all. 328 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:46.360 Like stopping it and we're. 329 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:48.879 Going we went but he is, Yeah, but then you. 330 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:51.720 Start looking at that and then you start building your 331 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:54.720 own this and then coach told me would always bring 332 00:14:54.759 --> 00:14:58.559 in a speaker to talk about the kind of the 333 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:01.720 rivalry and do all that. And it was. It was awesome. 334 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:05.399 I mean it was, it was. It was a great rivalry. 335 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:08.039 I can't I have a couple of friends that went 336 00:15:08.080 --> 00:15:10.200 to Arizona State, but it's one of those things that 337 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:14.200 we still had were sarcastic for a while and then it's. 338 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:17.720 Like, yeah, I hate this guy and then you leave. 339 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:21.840 So it's it's yeah, it's it's a great rivalry. I 340 00:15:21.879 --> 00:15:24.559 love it, and it's uh and just a good hatred. 341 00:15:24.720 --> 00:15:26.679 So that that was the That was the tie game, 342 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:28.879 right the twenty four to twenty four when the guy 343 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:29.279 dropped it. 344 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:31.200 Yeah, when we made it, they've dropped it. 345 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:34.440 The drop Yeah, they dropped very as game man. 346 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:37.600 Yeah, I was standing right behind the goalposts, I think 347 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:39.480 when you know, I could so I could see the 348 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:41.399 snap and what just happened. 349 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:42.320 I couldn't believe it. 350 00:15:42.879 --> 00:15:46.000 Yeah, yeah, that was awesome when that when that thing 351 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:48.919 they fumbled, and then yeah, that was that was the 352 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:50.840 best the best tie I have ever been in. 353 00:15:51.240 --> 00:15:54.159 Yeah. So Jeff, all these games are are are like that. 354 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:58.240 You mean, weird stuff happens. Uh And usually usually and 355 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:00.879 were you guys the underdog of times or a couple 356 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:01.320 of times? 357 00:16:01.360 --> 00:16:05.120 And we were I think about almost every time. I 358 00:16:05.159 --> 00:16:08.919 can't think of when we when we weren't, you know, 359 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:12.600 I I don't know. They always had that with that 360 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:15.159 arrogance about him, and they always had it steam like 361 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:19.879 they always had some guys and and uh, I mean yeah, 362 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:22.200 I mean it was even when when when we would 363 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:24.679 when I came back and I was with Mike Stoops 364 00:16:24.679 --> 00:16:27.039 in that group, and I mean there was a there 365 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:30.320 was a good hatred going. I mean that's there's always Yeah, 366 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:37.360 it was all, well how it goes, It goes all 367 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:38.879 the way to it goes all the way to the 368 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:42.320 time and then and and well Steve Kerr obviously with us, 369 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:44.720 he was our group of people an athletes and the 370 00:16:44.759 --> 00:16:48.000 athletics and and the McHale. But Steve Kerr goes up 371 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:51.919 when he when his when his dad just got it assassinated, 372 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:56.600 make and in an elevator and and uh in kuwait 373 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:59.679 or something, and but they go when when Steve went 374 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:02.720 that's when he came out of the tunnel and for 375 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:06.680 the basketball, and they they're yelling, uh whatever, like who's 376 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:09.240 your daddy? Who's your daddy? I mean just stuff like that. 377 00:17:09.319 --> 00:17:11.640 I love to tell that story because it gets me 378 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:15.240 kind of rileyed for all though. But it's people can't 379 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:17.960 believe it, but it happened. I mean, it really happened. 380 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:20.079 I mean you would think, oh, that's a little over 381 00:17:20.119 --> 00:17:23.279 the top, and then yeah, it's it's a. It is 382 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:25.640 crazy and it's a close rivalry. It's and I've been 383 00:17:25.839 --> 00:17:29.839 I've been around, been fired and hired a lot of times. 384 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:34.119 But it's but you know that that Indiana Purdue and 385 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:39.319 just those type of fun rivalries, Montana, Montana State. Those 386 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:42.279 are great, they're all great rivalries, but it really is 387 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:47.200 there's some nastiness and there's people don't like each other. Yeah, 388 00:17:47.240 --> 00:17:49.640 and I don't know if it's there's an arrogance there, 389 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:53.880 and then there's a they hate Arizona and we hate them, 390 00:17:53.960 --> 00:17:57.279 and yeah, it's it's a but it's fun. It's fun. 391 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:01.680 Yes, who the Arizona is? 392 00:18:02.279 --> 00:18:06.839 Yes? Right, so you. 393 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:08.519 Must I thought you had I thought you had a 394 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:12.880 stumb devil in that air and starting I can start 395 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:13.440 to feel that. 396 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:16.359 I'm like, oh, so you must be disappointed that you're 397 00:18:16.359 --> 00:18:17.559 not going to be down here for the game. 398 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:21.759 Yeah. Yeah, I'd like to be my my with my 399 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:25.279 brother coming up here to play at Uh. I take 400 00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:27.279 the other taking the kids to go to the game 401 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:30.960