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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball here
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Speaker 2: me the day's Dave Silver. And we got a special
Speaker 2: guest here. I was with him for lunch, George Ferranti
Speaker 2: from the Elsne George, how are you?
Speaker 3: And things are great up here in the foothills up
Speaker 3: two s on Arizona. We're just looking forward to the
Speaker 3: holiday season and looking for some of those football and
Speaker 3: basketball games.
Speaker 2: You didn't know that we were neighbors.
Speaker 3: Hey, I just saw you guys sign on the building
Speaker 3: and I said, hey, those guys moved up the hill.
Speaker 4: Congratulations.
Speaker 5: Really abow to find him too, right?
Speaker 2: Right? No days with us? A big weekend. You're talking
Speaker 2: about you a sports big game tonight, right. I don't
Speaker 2: know how big, but it's a big game because there
Speaker 2: was only can't afford to lose right in basketball, and
Speaker 2: in about more than sixty hours, I think whatever it's
Speaker 2: going to be forty eight hours, not for sure, but
Speaker 2: it's about sixty hours Arizona faces ASU in another big
Speaker 2: rivalry game, So we'll talk Let's talk a little bit
Speaker 2: about basketball now and then some up to date. So
Speaker 2: I'm not going to have any breaking news at the
Speaker 2: top of the hour, so we could talk about stuff
Speaker 2: that went on today. The women's basketball team lost again, right, David.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they lost again in Palm Springs.
Speaker 6: Yeah, to cal a team that they've pretty familiar with
Speaker 6: over their pack twelve years and wound if they had
Speaker 6: to play them again and they wind up losing. So
Speaker 6: for the second straight day back out there. It didn't
Speaker 6: work out too well for Idea's.
Speaker 2: Team, right, and they missed one of their best players.
Speaker 2: I think today she was out for personal reasons or
Speaker 2: family reasons.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what they were saying. So they were shorthanded.
Speaker 6: They've the name. I'm gonna have to look it up again.
Speaker 6: I hate to say. I yeah, I was watching that.
Speaker 2: I was paying attention when I was at with with
Speaker 2: George eating some of his great food out there as
Speaker 2: Celias Soria Soria, I think it is. I can't remember.
Speaker 2: Anybody want to call, you can let us know, so
Speaker 2: it is what it is.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, in these early season events
Speaker 6: you want to you want to win. I mean, hopefully
Speaker 6: you're kind of set up to win at least one
Speaker 6: of those games. And they lose e Vanderbilt, you know,
Speaker 6: I don't know how good they are, but they lose
Speaker 6: that game. And then today they you know, they come
Speaker 6: up short against Cal. They've been they were ahead. They've
Speaker 6: kind of had this this strange trend of building a
Speaker 6: lead and then losing the lead, usually like in the
Speaker 6: second quarter, and then never being able to come back.
Speaker 5: Right right now, we'll see. Have you been to a
Speaker 5: women's game in a while.
Speaker 2: Probably not.
Speaker 3: I haven't been to a men's game. I used to
Speaker 3: see quite a bit of the women's softball.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: And then but a buddy of mine that was Ivy
Speaker 3: League are playing quite a bit of college ball. He says, Uh,
Speaker 3: finish up strong, they always they child in the how
Speaker 3: he drilled in my.
Speaker 2: Head right right. That's in life too, that's in business,
Speaker 2: Like you got you finished strong.
Speaker 4: You're telling me about it.
Speaker 3: You know, you can't just go out there and set
Speaker 3: up and make a whole fan fade, pay the announcers
Speaker 3: and pay the supporting guys and then.
Speaker 4: Have the great uniforms you've got to actually get there right, right,
Speaker 4: that's what makes a winner.
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, no, no, you're right, and playing hard.
Speaker 2: We talk about this all the time, Dave, Dave and
Speaker 2: I and everybody else will on the show. That's one
Speaker 2: of the issues. And we'll talk a little about a
Speaker 2: lot of different sports. For football, uh, Dave, and we've
Speaker 2: talked about this a few times. I just I just
Speaker 2: think that if Arizona played harder, and it's simple as that,
Speaker 2: and it's not as simple as that in football, that
Speaker 2: they could play more closely and have a better chance
Speaker 2: of winning. I just this is what eleven games toll
Speaker 2: games now this weekend that if you haven't bought into
Speaker 2: Brendan's system by now, if you don't know me by now,
Speaker 2: you'll never never gonna know me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know it's they're also now in the
Speaker 6: in the in the situation where this is it. You know,
Speaker 6: I'm especially for some of the guys we know are
Speaker 6: going to be leaving. You know, how hard do they want.
Speaker 6: Nobody wants to get hurt that kind of thing. You
Speaker 6: don't want to get injured the last game of the season,
Speaker 6: badly because you could.
Speaker 5: Be out for an entire year ahead.
Speaker 6: Sure, so it'll be interesting to see how they you know,
Speaker 6: how they come out, what kind of you know oom
Speaker 6: as you said, they're gonna want to give in this
Speaker 6: one game.
Speaker 2: And both you guys have been here, George, you've been
Speaker 2: here forever, and Dave too, since the early eighties. And
Speaker 2: I was just on a show with Phoenix, the underdog
Speaker 2: in this game easily, not easily, but many times more
Speaker 2: often than not, wins the game. It was as an
Speaker 2: eight and a half point underdog. They have hope.
Speaker 3: You know what I've seen mostly between good good teams
Speaker 3: and bad teams, or good games and bad games, mostly generated,
Speaker 3: you know, because it doesn't get You could have these
Speaker 3: Class eight teams and I mean D one League teams
Speaker 3: and they're all playing to a top, top level. But
Speaker 3: the difference between them, I think that I see is
Speaker 3: breaking tackles and making tackles, you know, for the offense,
Speaker 3: breaking those tackles and really just giving it, grinding it
Speaker 3: out to the last moment and the feet and the
Speaker 3: legs and then on those guys with the hands and
Speaker 3: make sure that they get down on the defensive end.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well, and this year, tackling has been an issue.
Speaker 5: It's been an issue big time.
Speaker 6: I Mean, there's been so many times where they've had
Speaker 6: a chance to end the play and it just gets
Speaker 6: extended by some poor tackling or poor positioning.
Speaker 5: And that's been kind of the story of the of
Speaker 5: the year.
Speaker 6: I mean, that had a great game against Houston a
Speaker 6: couple of weeks ago, but then they come back and
Speaker 6: play the way they did last week against TCU.
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you. You saw the Houston game,
Speaker 2: start to watching it? Yeah, so so in fact, one
Speaker 2: of the guys that talked about, yeah, they beat Houston,
Speaker 2: but Houston may have been beatable and they, you know,
Speaker 2: lost a lot of their own stuff. We got a
Speaker 2: call her already. Hey, hey, you're on the air and
Speaker 2: eye on the ball. Who's this? Can you hear me?
Speaker 2: Can you hear me?
Speaker 7: I can hear you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's this?
Speaker 8: This is Jeff Amerschmid.
Speaker 7: Jeff, Jeff, you're going right to that waiting to go
Speaker 7: to the waiting room.
Speaker 2: Well there is no waiting room, Jeff. You want to?
Speaker 2: You want to? You're about ten minutes ahead of time.
Speaker 7: I I yeah, usually to be early told me to
Speaker 7: kick my as. Yeah, Hey, I thought I was gonna
Speaker 7: sit and.
Speaker 8: Now I was gonna sit and listen to you guys
Speaker 8: for a while, and then I then.
Speaker 2: I, well, hold on, hold on, let's let's do this
Speaker 2: because where you have to go, I know you have
Speaker 2: to go. We'll take We'll take a break after we
Speaker 2: talked to about you know, three eighteen, and then let
Speaker 2: you go take a commercials and kind of move things around.
Speaker 2: How you doing whatever you want to do, Let's do this,
Speaker 2: Let's do this. You in Colorado? You in Colorado?
Speaker 7: Yep, yep, okay, so you're.
Speaker 2: Watching from Afar? Is your TV safe if things go bad?
Speaker 7: My no, I'm sitting in my car outside of the
Speaker 7: where I have my meeting a little bit.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm talking about when you watch the game?
Speaker 2: Is your TV saying.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, no, no, my TV is not safe?
Speaker 5: Ones and friends yea, yeah, loved ones.
Speaker 7: No, I don't have any any of loved ones. My
Speaker 7: kids just run. They don't care about Arizona. So but
Speaker 7: my daughter's going to you Boulder, so she doesn't care.
Speaker 7: But my son has a little bit of an interest,
Speaker 7: and so I just like to.
Speaker 8: Sit by myself and throw stuff at the Kimi.
Speaker 2: You guys typically do what do you have you watched
Speaker 2: many games. It's not all of them.
Speaker 7: I watched an well, yeah, every time you guys are playing,
Speaker 7: every Arizona's playing, it's I'm watching, and then it's you know,
Speaker 7: I end up going to I go to a couple
Speaker 7: of games at the Colorado State I kind of uh,
Speaker 7: there's some players and stuff that kind of tailgate and
Speaker 7: do some things. So I hang out with them, and
Speaker 7: and then I go down to see you Boulder and
Speaker 7: see my daughter and go to I've been to like
Speaker 7: three or four games and my brother. My brother coaches
Speaker 7: at Oklahoma State, so they play Oklahoma State plays see you,
Speaker 7: So I I head down there and and I'll I'll
Speaker 7: head down there tomorrow. I guess Friday they play.
Speaker 2: So in your coaching, I and and the things that
Speaker 2: you do when you're scouting from the past, what the
Speaker 2: hell's going on with Arizona? And yet don't cuss. I
Speaker 2: can't put you on.
Speaker 7: No, I'm not and I'm not even and I tell
Speaker 7: you I'm not, I'm not. I don't judge. I have
Speaker 7: a terrible I will. I'm the most boring probably on
Speaker 7: asking that question because I've been I hate when people
Speaker 7: talk about what because they don't know what the heck
Speaker 7: they're talking about. But yeah, it just frustrates me because
Speaker 7: I because I just know. I mean, I know, I
Speaker 7: know Brent Brennan very well. I know his brother, I
Speaker 7: know Duwayna Keena of course and and uh Dino Babers
Speaker 7: and they're all great brands. Cecil, I mean, god dang.
Speaker 7: So yeah, I will never say anything bad. I think
Speaker 7: whatever they're doing is I think it's it's great. I
Speaker 7: think they're trying. I think it's hard sometimes these days
Speaker 7: when guys are you know, I mean injury wise, but
Speaker 7: there's that portal thing guys don't in and out and
Speaker 7: it's it's you got to be on top of that.
Speaker 7: And I think that's the that's the thing that they don't.
Speaker 7: They'll they'll keep doing, everybody will keep doing, and they'll
Speaker 7: be they'll be okay. So I go to it's good.
Speaker 7: I go to these days SeeU games and and gosh ding,
Speaker 7: it's like I feel like I'm at a I'm at
Speaker 7: a dance or something. People are singing and dancing on
Speaker 7: the field. They have the players, they who who here
Speaker 7: we go and it's like I'm like, it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 7: But they're winning a lot of football games. So they're
Speaker 7: start they're doing something right.
Speaker 5: These days.
Speaker 7: You know what, I am only I never met him,
Speaker 7: but I am. But Donnie Salem played with him, and
Speaker 7: Donnie can't say anything bad about the guy, says he's
Speaker 7: a he's a really a doubt standing guy. He just
Speaker 7: he just for marketing and being all that he does.
Speaker 7: He just he tries to be over top. He's not
Speaker 7: the same guy he is on TV. And he sounds
Speaker 7: like he's anyway, if Donnie likes him, I like him,
Speaker 7: so not to say that's my job, not just because Donnie,
Speaker 7: but it's yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 8: Yeah, So I go and I am.
Speaker 7: And he he hired a great staff and and it's
Speaker 7: not usually it's it's it's who the guy can get
Speaker 7: around him.
Speaker 8: And he's got a lot of people around.
Speaker 7: Him that are really doing a good job. So so
Speaker 7: for this, yeah, I'm not. I'm not kind of a
Speaker 7: negative guy. But and I get mad at people online.
Speaker 7: So I start, I start texting late at night and
Speaker 7: I probably shouldn't, but I get mad. I get mad
Speaker 7: at people, and I'm like, this is ridiculous. But well, yeah,
Speaker 7: the story.
Speaker 6: Down here this week obviously it's it's the end of
Speaker 6: the season, literally, and it's it's the big game that
Speaker 6: everybody kind of looks forward to. What are some of
Speaker 6: your your memories of this rivalry game? What was it
Speaker 6: like when you played here and uh, you.
Speaker 2: Know, and how how much did it mean to you?
Speaker 5: How much did it mean?
Speaker 8: You know, it was it was a lot, It meant
Speaker 8: a lot.
Speaker 7: I hate I I still don't like the Sun Devils.
Speaker 7: I won't let my.
Speaker 8: Daughter go look at the school.
Speaker 7: Just it's just I don't know, it's just that I
Speaker 7: think when we first got.
Speaker 8: There, there was that they were so.
Speaker 7: Good and they were this, and they were that, and
Speaker 7: and you just learned to hate them. And then a
Speaker 7: lot of guys that that I played with.
Speaker 8: Were weren't recruited by him.
Speaker 7: So that was the deal. It was like, hey, you know,
Speaker 7: they're not going to recruit We're not good enough for them.
Speaker 7: And it was easy for the whoever the coach was
Speaker 7: to jump in there and say, you know, hey, you
Speaker 7: know this this uh, this place is you know, they
Speaker 7: these guys are not are not nice people. We see
Speaker 7: j I'm doing better and but uh yeah, so it's uh,
Speaker 7: it's fun. I mean, by my first memory, it was
Speaker 7: it was. It was, uh, I think I was red
Speaker 7: shirting Tom Quinn's red shirt and we're all we're all
Speaker 7: read shirts. Gary Costin was in the dorms with us.
Speaker 7: Gary kicked, you know. So it was the big game.
Speaker 8: Which Chuck ran one hundred and six yard one hundred
Speaker 8: and seven yard touchdown and it.
Speaker 7: Took him, you know, it took him. I think what
Speaker 7: was it for it? It took him a minute in
Speaker 7: eighty two seconds to run the link this field because
Speaker 7: he was never he was never super fast, but yeah,
Speaker 7: just amazing stuff like that, like that and James the
Speaker 7: bow just stuffing the guy at the goal line. But
Speaker 7: Chuck's Chuck's play was kind of like everyone's doing in
Speaker 7: the Facebook right now. It's like, what a memory. That's it.
Speaker 8: That's the one play and it killed.
Speaker 7: And I grew up in San Diego. Obviously we all
Speaker 7: went to Helix Chuck and then our rival school was
Speaker 7: Grossmont and Van Rapports was from Grossmont High School, so
Speaker 7: they even they even were the rivals in high school
Speaker 7: and stuff. So it's like you hated that guy and
Speaker 7: then you and then Chuck is makes that play and
Speaker 7: then the next year, this is the one I got
Speaker 7: to try to clean up. But the next year we
Speaker 7: go to play up there and this place is nuts
Speaker 7: in the student section. You guys probably all remember this.
Speaker 7: But we go out for warm ups and a stretch
Speaker 7: and everything, and Chuck just can't help himself. So he
Speaker 7: turns us to face the student.
Speaker 8: Section and he starts and he started just.
Speaker 7: He just we do all of our jumping decks and
Speaker 7: facing them, and some guy, you know, some guy fires
Speaker 7: an orange because they were going maybe to the Orange
Speaker 7: Bowl or something. I don't know what they were doing,
Speaker 7: but they fired an orange at Chuck and he picked
Speaker 7: it up like one hot, scooped it and fired it
Speaker 7: back into the student section. Like I'd like to say
Speaker 7: he hit somebody, but I don't remember recall that.
Speaker 8: But they were channing. I mean, they didn't like Chuck.
Speaker 7: I guess they didn't like Chuck because he ran over
Speaker 7: someone or something. But they kept yelling, truck you cecil,
Speaker 7: truck you cecil. And I couldn't figure that out. So
Speaker 7: and I was just a young kid, So I'm trying
Speaker 7: to figure out why the whole student section is yelling
Speaker 7: for Chuck to jump on at to truck somebody or
Speaker 7: they're gonna truck cecil. But they kept yelling, Chuck, truck
Speaker 7: you cecil, trucking you cecil.
Speaker 8: And then he turns. That's when he he that's.
Speaker 7: When he started. We started doing jumping jacks. He takes
Speaker 7: the orange, he fires it back in. I mean, he was.
Speaker 7: It was awesome. And then we go we're going in
Speaker 7: and this is my first this is my first time.
Speaker 7: We're watching this and going, holy couch, Chuck's really doing
Speaker 7: this stuff. He's nuts and uh and you build your
Speaker 7: hatred starts to go like crazy and then you you
Speaker 7: start like we go into the locker room and there's
Speaker 7: a there's a guy that's that's stand old guy. Old guy.
Speaker 7: This guy, I don't know if he's fifty years old
Speaker 7: or something like me.
Speaker 8: But he's but he's sitting there yelling and he starts.
Speaker 7: Yelling about the truck. He's like, truck, you see some truck.
Speaker 7: And Chuck jumps up, grabs him, grabs him. He had
Speaker 7: a great vertical truck. But he grabbed this guy and
Speaker 7: tried to pull him out of the little stands in
Speaker 7: the back of the end zone by the scoreboard, and
Speaker 7: he tried to pull the.
Speaker 8: Guy through the stands and we were all.
Speaker 7: Like stopping it and we're.
Speaker 8: Going we went but he is, Yeah, but then you.
Speaker 7: Start looking at that and then you start building your
Speaker 7: own this and then coach told me would always bring
Speaker 7: in a speaker to talk about the kind of the
Speaker 7: rivalry and do all that. And it was. It was awesome.
Speaker 7: I mean it was, it was. It was a great rivalry.
Speaker 7: I can't I have a couple of friends that went
Speaker 7: to Arizona State, but it's one of those things that
Speaker 7: we still had were sarcastic for a while and then it's.
Speaker 8: Like, yeah, I hate this guy and then you leave.
Speaker 7: So it's it's yeah, it's it's a great rivalry. I
Speaker 7: love it, and it's uh and just a good hatred.
Speaker 6: So that that was the That was the tie game,
Speaker 6: right the twenty four to twenty four when the guy
Speaker 6: dropped it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, when we made it, they've dropped it.
Speaker 8: The drop Yeah, they dropped very as game man.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was standing right behind the goalposts, I think
Speaker 6: when you know, I could so I could see the
Speaker 6: snap and what just happened.
Speaker 5: I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that was awesome when that when that thing
Speaker 7: they fumbled, and then yeah, that was that was the
Speaker 7: best the best tie I have ever been in.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So Jeff, all these games are are are like that.
Speaker 2: You mean, weird stuff happens. Uh And usually usually and
Speaker 2: were you guys the underdog of times or a couple
Speaker 2: of times?
Speaker 7: And we were I think about almost every time. I
Speaker 7: can't think of when we when we weren't, you know,
Speaker 7: I I don't know. They always had that with that
Speaker 7: arrogance about him, and they always had it steam like
Speaker 7: they always had some guys and and uh, I mean yeah,
Speaker 7: I mean it was even when when when we would
Speaker 7: when I came back and I was with Mike Stoops
Speaker 7: in that group, and I mean there was a there
Speaker 7: was a good hatred going. I mean that's there's always Yeah,
Speaker 7: it was all, well how it goes, It goes all
Speaker 7: the way to it goes all the way to the
Speaker 7: time and then and and well Steve Kerr obviously with us,
Speaker 7: he was our group of people an athletes and the
Speaker 7: athletics and and the McHale. But Steve Kerr goes up
Speaker 7: when he when his when his dad just got it assassinated,
Speaker 7: make and in an elevator and and uh in kuwait
Speaker 7: or something, and but they go when when Steve went
Speaker 7: that's when he came out of the tunnel and for
Speaker 7: the basketball, and they they're yelling, uh whatever, like who's
Speaker 7: your daddy? Who's your daddy? I mean just stuff like that.
Speaker 7: I love to tell that story because it gets me
Speaker 7: kind of rileyed for all though. But it's people can't
Speaker 7: believe it, but it happened. I mean, it really happened.
Speaker 7: I mean you would think, oh, that's a little over
Speaker 7: the top, and then yeah, it's it's a. It is
Speaker 7: crazy and it's a close rivalry. It's and I've been
Speaker 7: I've been around, been fired and hired a lot of times.
Speaker 7: But it's but you know that that Indiana Purdue and
Speaker 7: just those type of fun rivalries, Montana, Montana State. Those
Speaker 7: are great, they're all great rivalries, but it really is
Speaker 7: there's some nastiness and there's people don't like each other. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and I don't know if it's there's an arrogance there,
Speaker 7: and then there's a they hate Arizona and we hate them,
Speaker 7: and yeah, it's it's a but it's fun. It's fun.
Speaker 4: Yes, who the Arizona is?
Speaker 2: Yes? Right, so you.
Speaker 7: Must I thought you had I thought you had a
Speaker 7: stumb devil in that air and starting I can start
Speaker 7: to feel that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, so you must be disappointed that you're
Speaker 2: not going to be down here for the game.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, I'd like to be my my with my
Speaker 7: brother coming up here to play at Uh. I take
Speaker 7: the other taking the kids to go to the game
Speaker 7: against Boulder, so we're we're fighting a mighty d on
Speaker 7: and uh but I go, yeah, I go this. I
Speaker 7: go to this one sports bar and I'm the only
Speaker 7: dang guy in there with Arizona stuff. That's like at
Speaker 7: Alabama l s U. I don't even know who the
Speaker 7: conference is alreadymore so, I'm I can't even yell out,
Speaker 7: you know, Pack ten can't even yell out.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm like, god, yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 6: I'm so I'm watching games on Saturday. I don't even
Speaker 6: know who I'm watching in terms of like league of
Speaker 6: these guys in and care about exactly.
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, because I walk like or you're sitting there
Speaker 8: watching the game and sometimes you just go, you know what,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna root for the for the Pac ten.
Speaker 7: You know, the U c. L a Is playing Wisconsin
Speaker 7: and I'm like, oh, wait a minute, No, They're both
Speaker 7: in the Big ten.
Speaker 8: I can't even root for the.
Speaker 7: Pac ten and you. The Pac ten is two people.
Speaker 7: I think it's Oregon and.
Speaker 8: Oregon Washington or something like that.
Speaker 7: So that's a heck. I mean, they're automatically going to
Speaker 7: go right to the conference championship against each other, so
Speaker 7: it's gonna be Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: So so Jeff you you were were talking to Jeff
Speaker 2: Hamerschmith for you a coach, assistant coach and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Former player back in the late eighties and nineties. So
Speaker 2: let me you were a coach, what type of coach
Speaker 2: were you won? And a lot has been made at
Speaker 2: least by me. We all know Brendan's not a fiery guy.
Speaker 2: He's he's a player's coach. As they say, Uh, how
Speaker 2: important is it to be centered like him or crazy
Speaker 2: like Stoops? You coached under Stoops? Right?
Speaker 7: Yeah, so.
Speaker 8: No, no, there's no there's no custing with anyone.
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean the stories that I would tell
Speaker 7: with Mike and Mark Stoops together, that would be I'd
Speaker 7: have to cuss. But the but but no, Mike was
Speaker 7: Mike was. I mean, you respect him because of his
Speaker 7: knowledge and he's just got a great mind for football,
Speaker 7: and I think some of the players they and he
Speaker 7: hired a great staff. I mean, he had not me.
Speaker 7: I'm just saying before me.
Speaker 8: He had Tim Kish, and he had some.
Speaker 7: Guys on his staff, his brother Mark, and obviously Mark's
Speaker 7: doing really well at Kentucky. And but he had a
Speaker 7: good group of guys that were that were special and
Speaker 7: and and he was bonkers at times, but you kind
Speaker 7: of like, that's just Mike, you know, that's just Mike.
Speaker 7: And he's but he's around the players. He has that
Speaker 7: you know, holy he knows what he's talking about on defense,
Speaker 7: and and so those guys, you know, I'm not like Mike.
Speaker 8: I'm more coach tomy ish.
Speaker 7: You know, you would. With Mike you almost play. You
Speaker 7: play hard because you're scared to death. He's gonna maybe
Speaker 7: hit you, punch you. But it's but with like with
Speaker 7: Coach told me, you play. And it's like with Dwayna
Speaker 7: Kena And it's like with Brennan, you know you're playing
Speaker 7: and because Coach told me. Obviously you guys know Brennan's
Speaker 7: been around him for a long time, and it's like
Speaker 7: you play for you you would. It's one of those
Speaker 7: guys you die for, you know, like from a coach
Speaker 7: told me standpoint, it's like you're you're, you're, you would
Speaker 7: kill for that man right there, and you every one
Speaker 7: would point the coach.
Speaker 8: Told me, you know, and coach told me, you wouldn't.
Speaker 7: Want anyone to kill anybody. But he's just you have that,
Speaker 7: He's just that father figure and just has that holy cow.
Speaker 7: And I think I told the story last year or
Speaker 7: something that when first he didn't even know me at all,
Speaker 7: Larry Smith just left us and incomes Coach told me
Speaker 7: and we're trying to move out of the dorms and
Speaker 7: he meets me and for the first time and hey, coach,
Speaker 7: nice to meet you. And he's like, what do you need.
Speaker 7: I said, well, I'm looking. We're trying to track down
Speaker 7: one of the players for a truck, and he talked
Speaker 7: me his keys. He said, hey, take my truck. Shoot,
Speaker 7: go ahead, you let me know when you get back.
Speaker 7: They don't like this guy is okay, And then it's
Speaker 7: you just kind of build that, but he will get
Speaker 7: after your ass.
Speaker 8: And what she did with me a few times and it's.
Speaker 7: Like you you you just kind of oh, man, he
Speaker 7: can he can? You know, I don't want him to
Speaker 7: get on me what he does. It's cool.
Speaker 2: That's the funny thing, because you know everyone says, well,
Speaker 2: Brendan's he's a good guy on the sideline, bah he collaps.
Speaker 2: But do you think he gets on his kids like
Speaker 2: that or even a little like that?
Speaker 7: You know, I think he does. I mean I I
Speaker 7: seen him. He was he was Brent is a good coach,
Speaker 7: like a good position He was a position coach. When
Speaker 7: we're It was with me and David Sipp and we
Speaker 7: were we're all at San Jose stood coach told me
Speaker 7: and and uh, he's his guys play hard for him.
Speaker 7: He's really good with his with the with the receivers. Uh,
Speaker 7: they played, they play their their their nuts off. And
Speaker 7: and so then it was like they, yeah.
Speaker 8: He had he has that.
Speaker 7: He has that. And I think Dino Babers is there
Speaker 7: has it. I call of course coach a Keina. They
Speaker 7: all kind of have that about him. I don't think
Speaker 7: you could put a Mike Stoops into that that staff
Speaker 7: and make it work, but I think with Brennan, I
Speaker 7: think they'll it will happen. I mean, I text a
Speaker 7: little bit late night once in a while, and uh,
Speaker 7: and I kind of get after some people that are
Speaker 7: who I've never heard of, and I'll just be like,
Speaker 7: you know, you guys don't understand, and I get killed
Speaker 7: all these things, so I don't. So I stopped doing
Speaker 7: that because I just I'm making a fool of myself.
Speaker 7: But but I I get because I just get. So
Speaker 7: I just feel strong about Brennan and and I know
Speaker 7: him and I know what he's gonna do, and it
Speaker 7: just it just takes it takes time. And these days
Speaker 7: with the portal and guys are leaving and worried about,
Speaker 7: you know, the play. You got to get your group
Speaker 7: of guys you that you recruit, whether you recruit him
Speaker 7: out of the portal or not. It's like it's like
Speaker 7: the guy at Indiana. I coached at Indiana and we
Speaker 7: were god awful, like we were.
Speaker 8: Bad in the Big ten and there's no way.
Speaker 7: And now that guy is recruited in the portal.
Speaker 8: He's recruited up.
Speaker 7: So he took all of his guys from Northern Iowa
Speaker 7: or wherever he was before, and now they're all playing
Speaker 7: at Indiana and they're beaten teams like Michigan and some stuff.
Speaker 7: But he is that guy, he is he's a real
Speaker 7: I don't know what he's like at all.
Speaker 8: I don't know the signette or whatever, but yeah, I
Speaker 8: don't he but I know.
Speaker 7: He got a lot of.
Speaker 8: Of solid players nothing And I.
Speaker 7: Remember back in Arizona days, we had a bunch of
Speaker 7: solid players. We don't we didn't have a we didn't
Speaker 7: have the big time recruits, but we had a bunch
Speaker 7: of solid guys that will play their ass off. I mean,
Speaker 7: Chuck ran like a five four forty, but he had
Speaker 7: but he had it, but he had a vertical jump
Speaker 7: that was like forty eight inches or something. I mean,
Speaker 7: just those guys and Chuck had so much heart, and
Speaker 7: just the guys play with this, you know. But if
Speaker 7: we were in the portal days, those days, Arizona State
Speaker 7: would have been losing all their portal guys. Uh. Now,
Speaker 7: actually they've recruited a bunch of kids into the portal
Speaker 7: but just but nowadays nowadays, Yeah, so it's it's Arizona's
Speaker 7: just gonna it's gonna take time. We're gonna it's gonna
Speaker 7: be the portal days. It takes a little bit longer
Speaker 7: because you got to build a team and you got
Speaker 7: to get the right guys in there. And they got
Speaker 7: the right staff, and I just I just feel that strongly.
Speaker 8: But who knows.
Speaker 7: I mean, if people get crazy and they start talking about, well,
Speaker 7: we got to get rid of them, and you know,
Speaker 7: I don't. I think you just gotta have patience.
Speaker 2: But Jeff, we gotta go, We gotta go, you gotta,
Speaker 2: I gotta go.
Speaker 8: I got a financial meeting, and you tell me I'm broke.
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Speaker 8: but we.
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Speaker 1: the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to my on the Ball here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Bavera. You're Dave Silm.
Speaker 2: Now we have George Barante with us as well, sitting in.
Speaker 2: He wants to know what the hell we do for
Speaker 2: a living. This is it, George? All the excitement we
Speaker 2: get guests that we hope don't cuss. He might have
Speaker 2: snuck one in there in there and I didn't catch.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was okay. I think that's okay.
Speaker 5: He was pretty good though. Yeah, he was very saying
Speaker 5: that's the way, that's the way. When you would interview him,
Speaker 5: we couldn't get him.
Speaker 2: To stop we could, right, he was great and then
Speaker 2: what did he just say? Yeah? What did you just say?
Speaker 2: But that's what we want. We want excitement. It's a
Speaker 2: big week. Of course, we're gonna be on the line
Speaker 2: here for about I don't know about six minutes before
Speaker 2: we take a break because we went along with Jeff Hammershman.
Speaker 2: On the next hour, we're gonna have a very good guest,
Speaker 2: Like like Hammershman, we're gonna have Jay Dobbins talking about
Speaker 2: those good old days back in the mid eighties and
Speaker 2: he was part of some pretty big games like those
Speaker 2: games right well, just a.
Speaker 6: Little bit before Jeff, So that was that little stretch
Speaker 6: from eighty eighty three through ninety one, I think when
Speaker 6: they didn't lose and had the tie with that he
Speaker 6: talked about.
Speaker 2: You remember the uniforms.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I just came running out.
Speaker 7: Of the.
Speaker 2: What the hell are they were kind of yellow?
Speaker 12: I was.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to ask you, guys, is what it takes
Speaker 3: to be a coach like that that caliber, right, or
Speaker 3: a leader?
Speaker 2: We talk about we talk about this, and we can
Speaker 2: talk about what you do for a living. But I
Speaker 2: still believe it, and I think Dave and I we
Speaker 2: talk about this. Do you have to be stern? You
Speaker 2: have to be stern, and not that you have to
Speaker 2: be a jerk about being stern or being you know,
Speaker 2: a pain in the us, but that command of respect
Speaker 2: that you need for the players to play hard, especially today,
Speaker 2: especially today, because the kids have a different way of
Speaker 2: being grown up, of being raised.
Speaker 6: Dave, Well, I remember, and I need to look back
Speaker 6: at this. I'm going back in my memory, which is falling,
Speaker 6: falling short sometimes. But wasn't he the son of a coach, Jeff, Yes,
Speaker 6: So there's that too, that that sometimes happens here. You know,
Speaker 6: you're in you're you know, the next generation in your
Speaker 6: in your restaurant business. But sometimes you could see it
Speaker 6: when they were playing, you know, the announcers would say, oh,
Speaker 6: you know, he's a son on a coach, he's a
Speaker 6: leader on the field, he's got all these intangibles that
Speaker 6: you know. So then sometimes that carries over to the
Speaker 6: next part of his career because he didn't really play
Speaker 6: much professionally, if any, and he launched into a big, long,
Speaker 6: you know, collegiate coaching career, which is great for him.
Speaker 2: Well, it's like you getting stuff from your dad.
Speaker 4: I'm actually the son of a you know, a very
Speaker 4: professional golfer.
Speaker 2: You didn't get into golf play.
Speaker 4: I've been playing since I was able to walk. And
Speaker 4: I played for the U of A.
Speaker 3: I won at the Rincon High School champions State championship,
Speaker 3: and I played for Pima College.
Speaker 4: And I played for U of A for a one semester.
Speaker 4: But that at that time they.
Speaker 3: Weren't really looking at the local guys to play at
Speaker 3: University of Arizona.
Speaker 4: They were looking to play import quite a bit of
Speaker 4: fellas to make the team.
Speaker 2: A little bit the Games of the World.
Speaker 3: Robert was heavy out of state, out of country recruiter,
Speaker 3: and so that didn't work out for me.
Speaker 4: I chose to play insisted on the bench.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you, because you worked for your
Speaker 2: dad or your co partners, was is he a coach
Speaker 2: to you? In terms of this?
Speaker 4: So I got two lessons my entire life. Well, one
Speaker 4: lesson I kind of say.
Speaker 3: I was at the Senior British Open in Europe hitting
Speaker 3: some balls on the range and after hours when my
Speaker 3: dad was playing in the in the championship and Gary
Speaker 3: Player walks down there and he says, oh, you're.
Speaker 4: Hitting a pretty good son.
Speaker 3: And then he says, but you're never gonna make it
Speaker 3: unless you get your thumb on the shaft. And at
Speaker 3: that time I was real kid, and my thumbs, my
Speaker 3: hands weren't big enough. So I did it right away
Speaker 3: though anyhow, And so we're walking up the next day
Speaker 3: to hit some butts for my dad to warm up,
Speaker 3: and he says, oh, look, here comes.
Speaker 4: All the stars. Oh look here comes Gary playing one
Speaker 4: is autograph. I says, no, not he is. He said,
Speaker 4: I'm never going to make it. So that was my
Speaker 4: big lesson.
Speaker 3: But we always learned from watching and imitating. That's the
Speaker 3: way I learned my sister and how to play golf.
Speaker 2: Right. Well, what about your dad in terms of being
Speaker 2: a was he a coach.
Speaker 3: Like getting life lesson and mentor definitely? You know, my
Speaker 3: dad always has high moral fiber, you know, and is
Speaker 3: just entrenched in principle honesty, you know, patience and kindness
Speaker 3: towards our staff. You know, we never throw tortillas in
Speaker 3: the back or you know, grab them by the air,
Speaker 3: nothing like that. And we're you know, we give them
Speaker 3: a chance. And we really have a culture of familiarity
Speaker 3: and a family. In the restaurant business, we've had our
Speaker 3: staff for some of them from up to thirty years
Speaker 3: to a minimum of ten years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's really to.
Speaker 3: Keep the team coherent in cohesion that really helps, is
Speaker 3: we I talked to the buses, I said, you know,
Speaker 3: you guys are the ones that see my customer the most,
Speaker 3: even more than me.
Speaker 2: Right, You're more important than I am to the front line,
Speaker 2: the front line. So David describing a coach, your ideal coach,
Speaker 2: what are you looking at?
Speaker 6: Oh, gosh, organized, that's kill delegator, A delegator, I think,
Speaker 6: I think all successful. You look at all the great
Speaker 6: coaches that you all have great assistance working for them,
Speaker 6: especially nowadays. You got to look at the size of
Speaker 6: these football coaching staffs especially they've got twenty people, you know,
Speaker 6: pretty much helping them on the front line. So you've
Speaker 6: got to hire the right people and just be a
Speaker 6: good communicator. And there's so many other things now that
Speaker 6: are involved with a job. Talking to the media, talking
Speaker 6: to the boosters, talking to the nil people. Now, I mean,
Speaker 6: there's a lot you've got to be able to do.
Speaker 6: And you know, have your you know, your day organized,
Speaker 6: have a good you know, administrative assistant who can put
Speaker 6: together your your schedule.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, No, you've got to be a GM, a salesman,
Speaker 2: you've got to be a pitchman. You've got to be
Speaker 2: a lot of different things. And all the while, the
Speaker 2: kids or the students of student athletes need to respect
Speaker 2: the hell out of you. Yeah. If they don't, they
Speaker 2: ain't gonna play hard for you. They're just not like
Speaker 2: your co workers. If they don't like you, George, if
Speaker 2: they hate.
Speaker 3: The job, well, for me, I don't show up. You know,
Speaker 3: they're like, what are we doing this for? You know,
Speaker 3: where's the owner on it? So that my first priority
Speaker 3: is to show up right for the team. But you
Speaker 3: care for the for the game time, you know what
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Speaker 3: thirty and seven thirty on Fridays and Saturday nights.
Speaker 4: That's crunch.
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Speaker 3: to take care of the books and make sure we
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Speaker 3: then it's not going.
Speaker 4: To work out so much.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean you look at even as just I mentioned football,
Speaker 6: but basketball now too. You look at an NBA bench
Speaker 6: and there's usually like what four or five coaches behind
Speaker 6: the bench that are you know, not not good enough
Speaker 6: to be in the front row. Right, it's just and
Speaker 6: you got to hire the right guys, and sometimes they're
Speaker 6: younger coaches that are trying to learn the business.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially in that league where if the players don't
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Speaker 2: just don't you know, you're not what are you doing here?
Speaker 2: You know, you're not one of us. Yeah.
Speaker 6: It's interesting how many kind of hit it big, maybe
Speaker 6: with one great season or a couple of great seasons,
Speaker 6: move on to the next job, and it doesn't work sometimes,
Speaker 6: Like you know, you wonder about the Indiana situation here.
Speaker 6: They are no one has even paid attention to them forever,
Speaker 6: and they have this great year, new coach. What's going
Speaker 6: to happen next year? If they if they the Pacers,
Speaker 6: no in the univers football.
Speaker 2: Well football, Yeah, you know you could tell that. I've
Speaker 2: seen him interviewed. He looks like the real deal. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: the guy you want to run through a wall four,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, Data speaks volumes. Obviously, I think.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Ying the Ball here on Fox
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Speaker 3: And the trouble is, I don't know what fift is.
Speaker 2: Well, that's how you figure it out, right.
Speaker 3: Today we try to get the people were spending some
Speaker 3: money with and or the players that were spending money
Speaker 3: on yeah, to uh to really produce and and gather
Speaker 3: the data and make sure that they're producing and creating
Speaker 3: that return on investment.
Speaker 4: For the team.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The ROI or is important back back for me and
Speaker 2: I'm old older Dave, you're older starting to tell you, uh,
Speaker 2: is we worked off gut. You know, you kind of
Speaker 2: analyze this guy's gonna hit to the right side fifty
Speaker 2: percent of out of time. You do that, but you still,
Speaker 2: you know, you got to play the game. And was
Speaker 2: your gut tell you well, let's play them this way.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, I don't know about you, but when I
Speaker 6: would put together a sports cast back in the day,
Speaker 6: I didn't have any analytics. No, I mean it was
Speaker 6: my job to kind of have an idea of what
Speaker 6: I thought was important. I know it's probably changed but
Speaker 6: you know back then, it's like I got to fill
Speaker 6: you know, three and a half five minutes whatever, what
Speaker 6: am I gonna do with it?
Speaker 2: And that was But isn't that that isn't that job? Well, well,
Speaker 2: at the end of the day to both of you,
Speaker 2: isn't You're in a people business, right You're trying to
Speaker 2: make sure that the people are happy with what you watch.
Speaker 2: So your gut would tell you this is what it is.
Speaker 2: Same with you, George, where you have customers and you
Speaker 2: know you've been in the business alone time and with
Speaker 2: the analytics. I know what the people like and what
Speaker 2: they want. Be nice, serve well, give them good food.
Speaker 4: We're good game on?
Speaker 2: Yeah, am I right?
Speaker 4: Yes, sir? I think you know. One of the things
Speaker 4: I use is I give them the the vraj of picks.
Speaker 3: You know, you have chicken, beef, pork, seafood or vegetarians,
Speaker 3: and then we just tone them down to their specific likes.
Speaker 4: And you can do that with a the team too
Speaker 4: right hand or better or left handed better? Or are
Speaker 4: they all short? And then we hold them down to
Speaker 4: get well, we need to fill the order.
Speaker 6: Right, I think you know, I think year two because
Speaker 6: it's it's your your guys business, so you have the power.
Speaker 6: Whereas in our businesses where we were in sometimes when
Speaker 6: things weren't going right, and that's when the analytics would
Speaker 6: come into play and all of a sudden the consultant
Speaker 6: would come in. It's right, you know, the newspaper doesn't
Speaker 6: look right. Something's wrong. We need more high school we
Speaker 6: need less you of a let me same thing to us.
Speaker 2: Okay, so yes, did it?
Speaker 7: Did it?
Speaker 2: Was it truthful or not truthful? But was it accurate?
Speaker 2: That means this guy needs to get a haircut, you guys,
Speaker 2: that's their job is to come up with But did
Speaker 2: it beat anything?
Speaker 5: Well? Not really, you didn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean maybe in the back of my mind, I go,
Speaker 6: you know, maybe we're doing too many high school stories
Speaker 6: and does anybody really care besides their moms and dads?
Speaker 11: Right?
Speaker 5: Family?
Speaker 3: Know what what we have a ton of today and
Speaker 3: that we don't need much more as creators and influencers, right,
Speaker 3: people that actually get to work and put out a
Speaker 3: story and do on a day's work.
Speaker 2: Do you follow that?
Speaker 4: I follow us a tidbit of it, you know, But
Speaker 4: I mean, uh, that's what it sounds like.
Speaker 3: Steve's jumb was mic jump was was creating a story
Speaker 3: and creating an influence and trend and getting something to
Speaker 3: talk about, getting something to go home and have a
Speaker 3: conversation at dinner with your kids.
Speaker 4: So you're not just looking through your phone all the
Speaker 4: day long.
Speaker 2: Well you talk about that stuff, Dave, do you follow trend?
Speaker 2: I don't follow Lebron selling me sell it up. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna worry about stuff like that or TikTok blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. I don't go looking for.
Speaker 6: It, but it will pop up on things that I
Speaker 6: may be looking at at around, like you know, threads
Speaker 6: or Twitter or whatever I'm looking at these days.
Speaker 2: Don't think about radiators because then they'll they'll pop up
Speaker 2: on the phone. You think about somebody that pops up
Speaker 2: and they.
Speaker 5: Know they're reading my mind. I think that's a Facebook thing.
Speaker 5: They're listening to me.
Speaker 4: They always got the microphone on.
Speaker 5: Huh yeah, yeah, this thing on Alexa listening to our conversation.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: No, so I guess maybe you know, I'm you know,
Speaker 6: kind of older generation now, but I'm still aware of
Speaker 6: that stuff a certain extent.
Speaker 2: Let's go back to on sports now, are you going
Speaker 2: to the game on Saturday. No, I'm not because we've
Speaker 2: got other things to do. You and the rest of Tucson.
Speaker 2: You're going Georgia Hill they got big crop. Well they are.
Speaker 2: You don't why we got to call yesterday. It doesn't
Speaker 2: It makes total sense that the ticket prices have gone
Speaker 2: pretty high, pretty high relatives to what they are. Guess
Speaker 2: who's getting them? Fans Isshue fans. Yeah, they're coming for
Speaker 2: a party, but typically Arizona's messed up that party over
Speaker 2: the years.
Speaker 5: It just that advice first, what happened last year?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Georgia're going, Yeah, I said, under the overhang.
Speaker 2: On the on the east side, on the east side, Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then I get the popcorn and next to the locyt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lottie Dodd, George, can you adopt me? I hate to.
Speaker 5: Say, aren't you going to be in the sun? Are
Speaker 5: you gonna be Okay?
Speaker 3: I think it's better than to be in the boost
Speaker 3: And then on those other the new towers.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's just it's you get to feel the the ambiance
Speaker 3: of the air, and then you know you're out there
Speaker 3: with the players.
Speaker 2: Students are right there.
Speaker 3: You got the popcorn, the peanuts, it's it's a it's
Speaker 3: an old fashion.
Speaker 2: Have you gone to most of the games this year?
Speaker 4: No, I haven't.
Speaker 2: You haven't because I was to say, how fun were
Speaker 2: they going to because there were I went to two
Speaker 2: and let me tell you, they were not fun to watch.
Speaker 2: And I have no skin in the game.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think we talked about this before
Speaker 3: the program aired has started, as you know, what the
Speaker 3: what is the impact that they've had on on so
Speaker 3: many losses over the season, right, and people giving up
Speaker 3: season tickets, not just in football, but even basketball since
Speaker 3: some of the chaos sets ensued from the Miller Hill.
Speaker 4: Yeah, stuff like.
Speaker 2: That, do you have yours? Do you have yours in basketball?
Speaker 2: Do you have basketball tickets? Well you can say no,
Speaker 2: you can say yes.
Speaker 17: The family gave gave the tickets up. Yeah, because of
Speaker 17: they just it just wasn't a cup of tea to
Speaker 17: get in that type of mixed total politics anymore. Yeah,
Speaker 17: mix it and they ain't cheap.
Speaker 4: I'm probably probably sure about that. I just the tickets
Speaker 4: were handed to me, so I said, okay, I'm.
Speaker 2: Going Oh you said about this weekend no for the
Speaker 2: bat basketball?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 6: Makes such a big deal too, And I think it's
Speaker 6: important as the fan experience. And you know, you I've
Speaker 6: been to I think maybe three or four football games.
Speaker 6: It's a long day or night. And honestly, eight thirty
Speaker 6: eight o'clock starts. You know, you're getting home at midnight.
Speaker 6: You know, I understand it's not going to be every game,
Speaker 6: but it's a long day. It really is, so Dave,
Speaker 6: and I'm spoiled. Would forty two year old day be
Speaker 6: saying this, Oh forty.
Speaker 5: He'd be there the game, covering the game.
Speaker 6: But if I was just a fan, probably it'd probably
Speaker 6: bring the kids, you know, if they wanted to.
Speaker 5: Maybe, if they were interested at that point. But it's
Speaker 5: a long day.
Speaker 6: Those TV commercials they bring the sign out, they tell
Speaker 6: you they're two and a half minutes long.
Speaker 4: You got the weather as well.
Speaker 2: Don't forget, don't forget the TV. You talked about TV commercials, Well,
Speaker 2: we're gonna review this play. We're gonna review this play. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're gonna review this play to commercial line all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, come on.
Speaker 6: Man, that's you know, not much you can really do
Speaker 6: about the commercials. That's that's yeah, you know, it's paying
Speaker 6: the bills.
Speaker 14: I don't know.
Speaker 7: We can.
Speaker 3: We can moan and groan about capitalistic systems and the
Speaker 3: way we have to pay for certain things that we
Speaker 3: indulge in, but at the end of the day, we
Speaker 3: have pretty nice roads to drive on and good health
Speaker 3: care to keep us.
Speaker 2: Health George, you you took it right now you're on
Speaker 2: the political front. Welcome to Welcome to medicare. I'm happy
Speaker 2: to be honest. We got only got three four minutes
Speaker 2: left on this segment. We'll come back with more talk
Speaker 2: on the other side and then have Jay Dobbins. I
Speaker 2: forgot to say that. Jagan's also be on the show
Speaker 2: later in the day to make his fantastic picks. We'll
Speaker 2: talk about the situation where who's leading, who's not leading,
Speaker 2: and all that when he comes on about three forty five.
Speaker 2: So good to hear from Jay. So we'll see you're
Speaker 2: not going, you're going. We'll see how long you last
Speaker 2: at the game. I think it's gonna be like for
Speaker 2: you going, I'm going because I'm covering it. I'm covering it,
Speaker 2: and I think for me it's gonna be important to
Speaker 2: see what Brendan says, win or lose about the season.
Speaker 2: You know, as you reflect on the season. What do
Speaker 2: you think And I'm not sure if I'm having enough
Speaker 2: to say this, but what do you think went wrong?
Speaker 2: What do you think went wrong?
Speaker 5: Injuries?
Speaker 2: Who knows what he'll say. He'll probably be nice about it,
Speaker 2: obviously he does want to alibi it all the way.
Speaker 2: But what went wrong? It's being interesting what he says.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, did he You know a lot of
Speaker 6: people have written about the lack of depth, but you know,
Speaker 6: they had all these injuries, and they just weren't our
Speaker 6: players that were ready to step in. I mean, it's
Speaker 6: always next guy up, you know, all that next guy
Speaker 6: might not exactly be ready. He might be a freshman,
Speaker 6: might be a red shirt freshman's barely played. So I mean,
Speaker 6: we haven't looked at it position by a position, but
Speaker 6: they'd lost you know what, five or six starters, almost
Speaker 6: the entire defensive backfield, manu their best linebacker, a couple
Speaker 6: of linemen on the offensive sides.
Speaker 2: We got only kind of a couple of minutes at
Speaker 2: the most. So let me ask you, Dave, we know
Speaker 2: what the situation with the transfer portal. We'll see you
Speaker 2: again next week and the week after. Give me an
Speaker 2: over under on the people you think will be gone
Speaker 2: be gone just well t MA Mac Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, he's going for a reason, right,
Speaker 2: just the guys who have a reason to go somewhere else.
Speaker 5: I don't know, I mean who knows.
Speaker 6: I mean maybe some of these guys that had a
Speaker 6: chance to play and they look over their shoulders say, oh,
Speaker 6: you know some and so it's coming back next year.
Speaker 6: He's going to take my position. So maybe one of
Speaker 6: those guys leaves. Maybe somebody who's just barely had a
Speaker 6: chance to play this year sees that, you know, the
Speaker 6: whole DB's are all going to be coming back.
Speaker 2: If they do. If they come back, well, but this
Speaker 2: was their opportunity to play. This is when you had
Speaker 2: a chance to prove that you could play here. And
Speaker 2: maybe they just didn't prove that they could play.
Speaker 5: Here, right, you know.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's uh, let's take a break here. I
Speaker 2: think we got another minute. I just want to make
Speaker 2: it shore we come back too early on the four
Speaker 2: o'clock hour.
Speaker 6: You were asking earlier about who didn't play for you.
Speaker 6: Of a women, it was Bria Cunningham, that's it. Bria
Speaker 6: used to count.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So we'll see what Uh do that have one
Speaker 2: more game? Is it a two game? Name or a
Speaker 2: three game?
Speaker 5: I think that's it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So ever's gonna play tonight at five thirty. They
Speaker 2: started five thirty. They played tomorrow maybe at the same time,
Speaker 2: and then again Friday at the same time. Maybe they
Speaker 2: so they won't they won't play them.
Speaker 5: That was the thing they all kind of start.
Speaker 2: I was going to go to this weekend be for
Speaker 2: that reason, because you think realistically that they'd played each other.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they relieved that that's not going to happen
Speaker 2: because Tommy did not want to play now his former.
Speaker 5: Boss well and plus omar Balo is playing for Indiana.
Speaker 2: Yeah too.
Speaker 5: I was watching some of that. They got destroyed.
Speaker 2: He got he only had eleven point six rebounds. I mean,
Speaker 2: this world that we live in is not what it
Speaker 2: perceives to be or seems to be.
Speaker 4: All I remember was men's basketball. Some of the toughest loss,
Speaker 4: isn't that.
Speaker 3: Marsh Madness was about Gonzaga, you know, always got him,
Speaker 3: got him again.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 6: Maybe the greatest game of all time when THEAH one
Speaker 6: in Salt Lake's and.
Speaker 2: Salt Lake City Blake step into that shot and they
Speaker 2: move on.
Speaker 5: Luke Walton, that team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just remember it. Well, hey we got to go.
Speaker 2: Let's go and come back on the other side. Thanks.