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Speaker 3: X Files and now here's Mac. Well. Good evening everyone,

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and welcome to mc maloney's military style show. Here in

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the Distant Thunderbut Radio Network. This is mc maloney While

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to shoe we have few tonight we're broadcasting live Stovid

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Great seafood restaurant, super dupe hamburgers, steak and cheese, Sammy

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and whatever they do with onions or Jah baby day

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out to die for once again. Big shoe for you tonight.

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But let me introduce quickly the members of the Hansa

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and Girls. He's here. You've been feeling him for a week,

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so sit yourselves down. It's you missed a big blocks

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of clean It's a big box of wipes. Wow, big

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sweet squeeze and kind of box a get it the

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big home depot. Hello back, Hello, everybody, Welcome to the show.

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I'm glad to be here. It's very famous.

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Speaker 4: I'm all juiced up and ready to go, juice up,

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ready to provide succinct and interesting content, which is what

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the show is all about. Right, Yes, okay, good to

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know you go and cranking up the vibe I got.

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I got an extra power generator in case my vibe

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runs out of juice. But it doesn't look like that's

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Speaker 3: Actually, if you had another battery for you a little bit,

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I'm talking about that story there anyway. So everything you

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had quite a weekend, I know that, right. It started

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Speaker 4: Talking about my weekend. Yeah, yeah, your place. Yes, that's fantastic.

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Fantastic food, fantastic entertainment. Great stories by al and club

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and h H and x H and x so bad

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mouth for me about me living in Charlestown and yet

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really just visiting doesn't count. I used to cobble all

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the I used to count all the cobblestones on Bunker Hill.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, So okay, we had a good time. We'll talk

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about that mint. Also with us in the studio is

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uh engine and producer Getaway Driver be killing. Sorry the

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Speaker 5: Though, Hello Mac, Hello, everybody, Hello Alt, what's up kids?

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Speaker 3: Okay, did you get home? Okay, Friday night? Yeah it

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we do the bees, any activity with the bee.

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Speaker 5: No activity with the bees. I think I think we

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lost They're all dead. I think we lost both hives,

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Speaker 3: It was a rough win. It was really a shitty winter. Okay.

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Speaker 5: Four hundred bucks worth of bees, if if I so decide.

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anything out of that. And I give it away. You

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ever had an interesting hobby. But after fourteen years, right,

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a spoonful, teaspoonful, lovely. I'm starting to drink more of

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Speaker 3: Honey in hot water? Is that what you're drink?

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Speaker 4: That's it sues my throat, yep.

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Speaker 3: From all that's singing from all the bacteria we breathe

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Speaker 3: Anyway, also with us as also the co conspirator at

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, Marca, I'm doing much better now. Thanks. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Well, we're going to get into that because you almost

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really guessed I did. Anyway, Also with us is a

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Susan ka super fan. Susan, look at a little bridget

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and the blo okayas restect Yep, yep, we all do.

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Speaker 7: We all approved see everybody, And you're making me hungry

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thinking about corned beef and cayeah, you ain't kidding an

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left of a corn beef is make Rubens right? So

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of it. It was like, oh my god, Mac was

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A land up there in Wisconsin. How are you with

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good friend, Kim Shay, Kim, how you doing.

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the same way. Okay. We always said that he looks

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like a movie stat he looked like different people every week.

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Speaker 6: I think it's Kirk Douglas, Kirk Douglas lit, Kirk Douglas.

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Speaker 4: Let's get the vibe going, get the vibe going.

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Speaker 3: Yes, how are you marry?

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Speaker 8: Oh you know living the dream Mac. I don't know

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who the dream it is, but I'm living.

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Speaker 4: I ran to a guy I said he was living

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Speaker 3: Was he driving a Lambeau? That my dream? So Mary,

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very quickly, you you were able to communicate with those

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Speaker 8: And then I also look at the future for people too.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 8: I'm like, you know, double handed, as they say, double fisted.

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Speaker 3: And you have a you have a an office where

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Speaker 4: A what what you.

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Speaker 8: I do, yes, Yes, it's in Winchester, Massachusetts. So if

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into the world, which is great. Technology is wonderful.

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Speaker 4: It's fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and which how can people get in touch with you?

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Speaker 8: So you can go to my website Marydalva dot com.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, super dupa. So I've introduced everyone for

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this segment. So it turns out we're talking about this

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party we had, and now we have three questions for

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Speaker 4: Called conspirator on this Okay, I better hold onto my

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Speaker 3: But you ready, yes, yes, right? Three questions for three

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Speaker 8: So you were at.

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Speaker 7: Max for the annual Saint Patrick's Day party, but at

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the end of the night, Lois and Mac had to

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drive you home. So the reason for this was one,

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you were too loaded to drive yourself. Two, some Plumb

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Three you left on your car's ignition and later blamed

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me maybe I shouldn't drive, But I felt perfectly fine

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start button to get into a cessory mode, to lift

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the window, and then get it out of a sessory

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mode and into quiet mode because if they pressed the

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button again, I found out you're in the start mode,

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but you're not starting anything because your foot's not on

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the brake.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, So it was in that mode from

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five o'clock to.

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Speaker 3: Well on Saturday morning, I was in the wait for

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the triple A guy mode, okay, and he just came

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up and went, this whole tank line, Is it started?

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gone down? Well, unless it wasn't the plumble and fery

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second the end.

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Speaker 5: The thing about that that was you could go up

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to that car with a jump pack and I started

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in three seconds. But giving given that it's a new car,

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if it takes a dislike to anything you've done, it'll

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fry a five thousand dollars computer in two seconds. And

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then you bring it to the Lexus Steeler and you say,

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I don't know, accurate deal, Go what's I don't know?

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What's wrong with this? And they go, oh, you've fried

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the computer. It's going to be five thousand bucks and

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they're not coming under warranty. No, because you did it.

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to me, I'm waiting for triple A, I was like, well,

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it's better than me jumping them. And then I was like,

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I can set the cables and come over and try

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doing it. But yeah, no, it's a new car. Okay,

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can I jump in ahead? I hate that since he

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blame that, I've been sort of you know, blamed here

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for this. So I'm going to have to tell everyone

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the truth of what really happened that night.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, did you ever go?

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Speaker 6: A lot of cars have them now, they're kill switches,

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and they have them if you come out of a virus,

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you hit the kill switch, depending how you look. And

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I hate to say it, but somebody hit the kill

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switch because of the way that we saw one walking

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down those I was fine, he could have driven, So

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it was strictly a kill switch. Well automatic, it's like

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a breathalyzing.

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Speaker 3: You a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, I got to say

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at some point though, you said you were fine, Yeah,

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I was fine. But I looked across the living room

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and you were out on the floor, completely flat out

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on the floor.

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Speaker 4: At least I wasn't naked. No good, No, I mean

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I was. I was feeling pretty good, but that, but

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I mean that we were off quite a bit.

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Speaker 3: Well, don't you explain it?

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Speaker 4: That Breau was drinking was about one point five percent abv.

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Speaker 3: Okay, But it was the other thing, the other things

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you ingesting probably Yeah, well you're demonstrating something to X

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and the you're laying out of the floor. He looked fascinated.

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Speaker 4: I was doing the I was doing the endurance exercise.

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Oh yeah, flat the prostate, as they say, on the

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floor on your stomach, right with the butt up in

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the air, and you're on your you're on your elbows.

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Speaker 3: And if you saw someone doing the whole day, what

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the time to leave?

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Speaker 11: Right?

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Speaker 3: Time to go right?

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Speaker 4: And he said, you know, he had tough time doing

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it for and he's for seconds. And I was down

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there saying, okay, and what do I do.

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 8: Based on that, that sounds like one one was perfectly

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okay to drive right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah he was.

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Speaker 8: He was perfectly fine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Anyway, I was more worried about back in

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the area of the parking area, a little near your mailbox.

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I said, okay, I'm not happy with the turning radius

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of this car.

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Speaker 3: No, it's a it's a problem then, Plus alice fence

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is there when we first moved in. I think I

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gave then they give you fifty bucks, I said, said

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I was replacing the fence. I'll give you the fifty

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fifty because I know I'm going to hit.

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Speaker 4: It if I back out to be like a fifteen

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point turn to get myself and there iculated to the road,

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and then they got to watch off with the boulders

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on both sides when they make it.

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Speaker 3: Right now, he's blaming you and me and cons the

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corner with all the boulders that corner. Somebody clipped one

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of my granite posts. It might have been the Triple

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A guy. Yeah, no, it was further down on fourteen.

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But I definitely did more damage to his car than

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my granite. Oh really, Yeah, that's that's what it's gotten tuned.

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It's a very controversial corner. No one can make the turn,

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yet everyone tries to make the turn.

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Speaker 4: If I had a big humvy, i'd go right over

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those bricks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, got three cameras aimed at that corner. I'd have

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you in small claims court so fast. It's the death

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of Amazon. I just made four thousand bucks off Amazon.

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I know you really wan't talking about that on the air.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we did it. They're not my fault. They can

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afford it. So anyway, Uh, sus a number two. We're

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only on two. Good number two.

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Speaker 7: So the night was memorable?

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Speaker 8: For another significant reason?

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Speaker 7: Was it because Lois's six month restraining order ran out

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the day before? Missus X, Missus Club, and missus Al

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all agreed to.

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Speaker 8: A quick out of court settlement.

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Speaker 7: Or max pet Seagull Bugsy beat you.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 4: I wish I had good seen Bugsy Bugsy seagull up close,

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because I saw him fly away after the treat you

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gave him. Well, that was early in the evening and

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going I wonder.

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Speaker 3: This X got him x Um I'm close. I really

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ran away like a you know, but anyway, Yeah, he

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was Bugsy was there for see.

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Speaker 4: I used to go up to Hampton Beach with a

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sleeve full of.

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Speaker 3: Lorna dunes. Lorna dunes.

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Speaker 4: I know they're not good for seagulls, but I like

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eating them like peanuts. I even like peanuts. All of

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a sudden, the seagulls came out of nowhere. I'm walking

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the wall, the seawall, and it was like off season.

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So I was the only person there, and these seagulls

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are there. I know they were starving because you know,

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there weren't people there. So I went, okay, I've got

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the Lorna dunes. Let me just break a piece off

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and put it on the wall itself, on the top

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of the wall. And they came in. They're fighting and going,

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this is great. I'm gonna just see if they can

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eat out of my hand. And I'll tell you those

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little beaks of this they can hurt. First, well, I

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used to do. We had a horse. I used to

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have half a carrot when I had the horse, and

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put the fat half in my mouth and let chubbs

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the horse. Chubs put his whiskers on my face to

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feel like the relative distance between his teeth and my nose,

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and he would take the carrot every time I would

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feel his whiskers.

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Speaker 3: Look at Al's face right now, must mirror my own, man,

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I said, some day, okay, all right, all right, if

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you want to kiss us. That's fine. We're not judgmental

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here on the show at all.

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Speaker 4: Any wild animals I want to get up close? Was

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he a male huset or a female male chubs? Jubs?

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Speaker 3: Not weird? Uh? Anyway, Susan, please.

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Speaker 7: So one one true or false? You actually had two

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corn beef dinners last week? I did one at max House,

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which you ate with you tensils, and one in the

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stabbed Gally parking lot that you.

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Speaker 8: Ate with your hand.

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Speaker 4: That one was. That one was the day before a

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couple of days on Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Nos, you got a Tuesday night. It was Tuesday night.

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You got it for free? I mean right, yeah, nothing free? No,

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it was Tuesday night. It was after the show to

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go and he walks out because they had dinner then

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Tuesday night of Saint Patrick's, say twenty two bucks for dinner. Yep.

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We're sitting at the bar after the show and he

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just he says, the day you haven't he left? He goes, yeah,

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I do, you won't want to go. So he buys

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it and out to the park a lot. You know,

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we leave it was.

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Speaker 4: In it to go to container because I attended on

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eating it out on the way home, or when I

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got home.

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Speaker 3: But Dave didn't give you the utensils.

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Speaker 4: But I was starving. So I'm in the car. I'm

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not the only car left in the parking lot. It's

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kind of it's kind of cold. And I flip it open.

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Oh there's no there's no silverware, and there's no plastic

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silver I made a note, got to put plastic silverware

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in my left compartment. The situations like this, right, so

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I said, then stopped me. I started eating the dinner

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with my fingers.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 4: Just the corn beef dunked in the must It was great,

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dunked in the mustard. Took the potato. I would have

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if I had utensils, would have cut in half. No way,

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took the potato, dunk that in the mustard. And I'm

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just And then grabbed the cabbage. Yeah, and I had

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a bunch of paper towels on my lap, so in

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case there was an accident. Grabbed the cabbage. I had

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to kind of break it up a little bit. I'm

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eating the cabbage. Wait a minute, I gotta cut I

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gotta cut it do because I'm gonna get all food

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all of my steering wheel. I got. I got wet ones,

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so I wiped down with the world. Have your wipes

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nice and clean. Yep, put these food away, wipe down anything.

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And I said, I'm gonna eat the rest of this

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when I get home.

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Speaker 3: You can see the cop coming up to the windfield

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with the you know what, the light.

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Speaker 4: What it was good. It was like having the picnic and.

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Speaker 3: The yeah, you know the vehicle was you didn't think

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to come in and yeah, stay for the utensils or

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steal the fork.

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Speaker 4: I feel like getting out and walking all right, Okay,

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well let's clamp from one one because.

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Speaker 10: He's here.

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Speaker 3: He's here.

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Speaker 4: Besides, I was in the Navy. We used to rough it.

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Huh when we were when we were deployed and they

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can believe we're doing our mission. We used to rough

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it and we had.

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Speaker 3: To deploy Newport road isand we had.

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Speaker 4: Sea rats and uh, this is when were deployed and

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get MO do these fit and phony BOLOGNEA operations.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well you told me when you were down and

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Q we used to just go to the beach every day,

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and we did.

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Speaker 4: We did that. We did plenty of that. But but

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we were training reserve so they couldn't burn out the reserve.

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So we had to make believe we're doing something. The

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Sea rats and I think you can opener to open

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the Sea rats and the h the flame thing we

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call it thermo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was hungry, but anyway, I'll take you one now,

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the funds them. Why don't we take a quick break

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now and we'll be right back after this. You know,

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listening to Mac Maloney's mil track song So Military Exile

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show here on the Distant Thunder Radio Network. Please stay tune.

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Hey everyone, we're here with Chris Billius, senior producer and

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engineer at the very famous Bristol Recording Studios in Boston. Hey, Chris,

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hey Mac. Now, Bristol's got this program that's always fascinating

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to me. Now let me see if I got this right.

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You can take something as simple as someone singing into

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their phone and turned it into a fully produced song.

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Is that right? Yeah, that's pretty much it.

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Speaker 12: You send us your demo, could be a ben, could

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be you and a guitar. We'll build it up. We'll

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work on the vocals, add instruments, maybe bring in some

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session players, whatever it takes to make it sound finished, professional,

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like something you'd actually hear on Spotify.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the cool thing is you don't even have

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to go to Boston to do it right.

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Speaker 12: Nope, it's all virtual.

474
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Speaker 5: Now.

475
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Speaker 12: We trade files, jump on zoom and build it together

476
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lay by layer, kind of like baking. You just keep

477
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a and the good stuff until it's right.

478
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Speaker 6: Wow.

479
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Speaker 3: That's nice, But what about the cost.

480
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Speaker 12: It really depends on the project. But we talk everything

481
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through before we start. It's meant to be accessible no

482
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,680
matter what kind of music you're doing, rock, pop, even musicals.

483
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, you've done musicals.

484
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,519
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, we've done musicals.

485
00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 3: Really Okay, well, I love it. So if someone's got

486
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a demo and wants to take it to the next level,

487
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what should they do?

488
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Speaker 12: Just head to Bristol Studios dot com and look for

489
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a recording. We'd love to hear what you're working on.

490
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Speaker 3: Welcome back everyone to mc maloney's Military Wow Start again too?

491
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Speaker 4: What was that?

492
00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:10,319
Speaker 3: Take two? Welcome back everyone to mc maloney's Military X

493
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Files show. Here in the distance under Radio Network. This

494
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,279
is mac maloney. We're broadcasting live from the Snobby Gallen Restaurant,

495
00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:23,599
fifty five Water Street, Report, Massachusetts. Great Seafood, Great Hamburger's,

496
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Great Steak and Cheese, Sammy Great onions anything else were

497
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:27,759
running out.

498
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 4: French onion soup is to die for, clam chowder, clam

499
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chowder show.

500
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just saw aur Meil consumed in front of us. Anyway,

501
00:26:38,079 --> 00:26:42,319
so we've quite a shoe feu tonight. Let me just

502
00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:45,480
very very quickly introduced the gang girls you see of

503
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the famous very famous wan Woe.

504
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Speaker 4: Hello everybody, Hello Mac, welcome back to the show. I'm

505
00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:52,839
rareing to go.

506
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Speaker 3: Here and to goep. Also with us is uncle Ale,

507
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:01,559
Kitty's panel engineer producer. Now mass be killing. That was

508
00:27:01,599 --> 00:27:05,200
a mask, right, It's so you're talking about eighty thousand

509
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:08,279
bees basically forty from last year and now forty Well,

510
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,000
you know it, it happens, you know, that's a yes,

511
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:12,960
you know.

512
00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:15,079
Speaker 5: For all I know one of my neighbors is spraying

513
00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:18,640
something out in the yard to kill ticks and they

514
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:19,119
do that.

515
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 4: Oh that happens.

516
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 3: Really doesn't name any names, but I'm not going to

517
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,559
name his name, but I had to. I've had to

518
00:27:27,559 --> 00:27:29,119
talk to you about it in the past. Can he's

519
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:29,839
killing the bees?

520
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Speaker 4: Well yes, okay, you know bees are so precious. Is

521
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,559
a big deal in the UK about preserving the pollinators

522
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,319
and it's like, you know, rescue the bees. Rescue the butterflies.

523
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,319
Where's the butterflies? Where's the butterflies? You know, a little

524
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,759
tray of mud for the butterfly. That's what I did

525
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,240
up in New Hampshire, just a little tray. Butterfly needs

526
00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:52,680
a little bit of mud every so often. And bees

527
00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:55,559
like to drink, right, like to drink.

528
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 5: That's why if you have a neighbor with a like

529
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,799
a name ground swimming pool and the kids go out

530
00:28:01,799 --> 00:28:04,119
there and splash around, they splash the water up on

531
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,960
the hard surface around it that's concrete or bees like

532
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,839
that kind of chlorinated water they have to do, and

533
00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:13,920
they'll drink it. And the problem is the kids are

534
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,400
running around barefoot and they'll step on them and get stung.

535
00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:21,000
And then people come after you and say, bees attack

536
00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:21,480
my kids.

537
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Speaker 3: The chlorine doesn't the bee's attachment. They like it. That

538
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,519
doesn't kill them. The chlorine is for some reason they

539
00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:33,079
go for it.

540
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so they end up with the chlorinated honey.

541
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Speaker 5: Maybe that's a secret too. Yeah, you got a little

542
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,720
bit of not to take some take time. But you

543
00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:47,039
got to realize that bees are very opportunistic. Yes, okay,

544
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,200
So the reason that the bees are dying off now

545
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,880
is because they they'll go and find a dead hive

546
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,400
that has honey in it, that was killed off by

547
00:28:55,519 --> 00:28:58,559
Verroa mites or whatever, and they'll go in and pillage

548
00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:01,079
the honey and take it home. They bring the disease

549
00:29:01,079 --> 00:29:03,960
home with them and it kills them. Yeah, or the

550
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,519
other thing, I think we've mentioned it before. You go

551
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to some of the excuse me restaurants in Boston and

552
00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:11,799
they say, we have our own beehives up on the roof.

553
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,000
They go into the public garden and they do you know,

554
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,240
they go into the show. Okay, Well, somewhere in Europe,

555
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,640
I know was France, these people started showing up with

556
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,480
like the beekeepers getting this really crazy colored honey. It

557
00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:28,119
was coming in reds and greens. Yeah, they couldn't figure

558
00:29:28,119 --> 00:29:30,440
out what was going on. Well, they found out that

559
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,200
there was a candy factory up the road and they

560
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,519
were throwing all the excess sweet shit into their dumpsters,

561
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and the bees are going right into dumpsters after it.

562
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So you know, yeah, you're gonna if you're gonna take

563
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:48,680
honey from came out of the city of Boston. Okay, yeah,

564
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,000
maybe some of it came out of the public garden,

565
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:54,400
but some of it came out of the dumpsters in

566
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,200
the back alleys where.

567
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Speaker 4: Can't come out of shrafts right now?

568
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, so thank you well. Alsome with us is

569
00:30:08,079 --> 00:30:12,759
Willie Club security chief Willie. How are you? Willie?

570
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Speaker 6: You know, I'm really doing great tonight. Go some nights,

571
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:19,799
you know, you get kind of off, but tonight I'm

572
00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:22,759
really Now I'm on my game. After your party, I

573
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:27,519
told you I was kind of really off. My center

574
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:30,880
of the universe seemed really different from all three days.

575
00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:33,240
H But now it's straight. I mean, I'm gonna have

576
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:36,279
to ask Mary about that. She might realize that if

577
00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:39,240
she analyzed how I was for the last few days.

578
00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:41,440
But needless to say, I don't want to buy you.

579
00:30:41,519 --> 00:30:45,400
But it's good to be back to reality and with

580
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the gang.

581
00:30:46,079 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 3: So I'm I'm very happy to be here a little

582
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:50,759
colon beef and can do for you Like for me,

583
00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:52,680
it's good to be back in the US after being

584
00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:56,000
doing the show from the UK for like three years.

585
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 4: But when you're in the collection of your friends, you

586
00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:04,119
have this intersecting feeling, intersecting vibe, intersecting everything.

587
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,359
Speaker 3: And Mary maybe can can talk to that.

588
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:12,559
Speaker 4: It really helps the whole environment in the room between

589
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,599
Doreen and Mac and all all of us guys in there.

590
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:16,119
Speaker 3: Talking about that.

591
00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:19,519
Speaker 6: It's like we talked about beforehand. It's like having a

592
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:20,200
colon oscar.

593
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,119
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly, yeah, and then then telling you like as

594
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clean as a whistle, here you go. Are you free

595
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:25,960
to go?

596
00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:28,839
Speaker 3: You know this guy, this is what the party was.

597
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,799
The girls sat over there and the guys sat over

598
00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:32,640
there and watch TV.

599
00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 4: But notice the girls in the beginning.

600
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 3: Well yeah, until they threw you out, I said, the

601
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:45,759
whole streaming anyway.

602
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,359
Speaker 4: You just got to figure it out sometimes, right, You

603
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,880
do have to figure out your space and you know

604
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:49,559
how people.

605
00:31:49,319 --> 00:31:51,359
Speaker 8: The multiple ones. You got to figure out what room

606
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,519
we can be in a lot, a lot one one.

607
00:31:53,559 --> 00:31:56,039
Speaker 4: I know Doreen laid it out the ground rules right

608
00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:57,160
from right from the beginning.

609
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,519
Speaker 3: There was now the ground rules. But you were on

610
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:02,039
the ground like twenty minutes later.

611
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 5: I think the women were talking about travel, really about

612
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,480
taking trips and away from us. Well, you know, if

613
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,079
we don't want to go with them, you know, you

614
00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:13,559
know that's not going to happen. Probably depending on where

615
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:16,839
they're going, might go to Vegas. Probably not though you

616
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,359
should we move on?

617
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 4: Vegas is so cool.

618
00:32:20,039 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: I'll take the trade, man, but I've done that before.

619
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It's a great rat uh. Anyway, So also with us

620
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,720
is a good friend down there in North Carolina. Susan, Kay, Susan.

621
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How are you everybody?

622
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,319
Speaker 8: I'm doing great.

623
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:36,519
Speaker 7: I'm so happy all your beautiful basis.

624
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you so much for talking about me or

625
00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:40,200
mac you.

626
00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:50,759
Speaker 3: But everyone. Yes, remind everybody that we when we first

627
00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:53,160
out of the show, we're probably not even three or

628
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,720
four months, and we were Someone took up pictures on

629
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,400
Facebook I think right, and the first fan letter we

630
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:05,240
ever got they said faces for radio. I think about that.

631
00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:08,160
How rude is that? That's how I agree.

632
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 4: I totally agree with that.

633
00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: If you agree then anyway. Yeah, so I was just

634
00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:18,119
going to I was just going to say, you look

635
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:20,039
a little bridge of bido ish tonight. I think I

636
00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:20,880
said the deal here.

637
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,839
Speaker 8: But well, thank you.

638
00:33:23,079 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 7: That's a compliment.

639
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 11: I appreciate that.

640
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:31,759
Speaker 3: Almost Patty boys want so everything okay with you? Yeah? Yeah,

641
00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:34,119
how's the huss We haven't talked him about him in

642
00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:34,720
a long time.

643
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:38,279
Speaker 7: He's doing good. I wrote a little bit this weekend

644
00:33:38,359 --> 00:33:41,720
forgot to send you a picture but getting warmer here.

645
00:33:41,839 --> 00:33:44,359
Speaker 3: So now do you think he'd do that kra thing

646
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,480
with one one doing the kiss in the camera thing

647
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:46,880
with him?

648
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 7: Absolutely would, Absolutely.

649
00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:54,039
Speaker 4: The vision close in is not that great that right

650
00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:57,440
with horses so only.

651
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 7: Because their eyes are spaced so far apart.

652
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 4: Maybe so Eileen's saying, Chubbs is gonna bite off your nose.

653
00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:05,920
He's not going to see the carrots. He's going to

654
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,119
see that. He's gonna his whiskers are going to feel

655
00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:12,360
the carrot, and then he's gonna put his lips out

656
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,519
there and sometimes he gets a little lip juice on

657
00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:23,800
my nose, takes the Carrot's like, it's great. That'd be like, uh, Lucy,

658
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,880
I've been kissed by a horse.

659
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 3: Good name for band though, right? What's that?

660
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 5: What's that joke about the guy the horse walks into

661
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,239
the bar and the goes right along face.

662
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:42,639
Speaker 6: Exactly?

663
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 3: Okay, I know a couple of hot strokes. I'm not

664
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,719
gonna say, let's move on. Uh, let's see also with

665
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,840
us a good friend Brandy X up there in Wisconsin. Brandy,

666
00:34:57,159 --> 00:34:58,840
how are you hi?

667
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,199
Speaker 9: Everybody? I'm so happy to be here and I'm so

668
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,119
glad to see everybody looking.

669
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 3: At a little Audrey hupburnished, is it Audrey?

670
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,119
Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, breakfast and tifany.

671
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, breafence on her right cheek. Oh really well you

672
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,639
know hmm. We can only agree. So everything okay with you,

673
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:22,320
even though everything is melting up there, melting.

674
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's yeah, it's okay, Yeah, okay, there's nothing I

675
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,000
can do about it.

676
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 3: Right.

677
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,039
Speaker 4: You're like the ski, right, is that it? You love

678
00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:36,639
the snow shoes, snow snow shoes, yeah, okay, sakes fishing.

679
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,559
Speaker 3: Also, you don't go ice fishing, dude, that's gonna be

680
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:42,800
the kind of dumbest spot in the world. Just go

681
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,559
to the fish box and buy some fish.

682
00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 9: And it's super boring. But it's kind of fun to

683
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,840
go out and hang out on the ice because people

684
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,840
like bring their snowmobiles.

685
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:54,039
Speaker 4: Out there and get a bob house out there with

686
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a stove.

687
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,559
Speaker 9: They have like a little camp set up out there.

688
00:35:57,679 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 3: And that's cold. It's cold, well not in the bob house.

689
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,880
It's like skiing too cold, man.

690
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,079
Speaker 4: Think about it. You run, you run, you're on the ice, like, like,

691
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:09,559
do it all the time.

692
00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:10,039
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

693
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 4: They lose a truck or two all the time. And

694
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:18,400
in the lake trucks, bob houses, the cook barbecues, you know,

695
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,800
a heat source, and you're there fishing in a hole.

696
00:36:23,639 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 3: It's I don't get it, fishing.

697
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,039
Speaker 4: They land planes on that lake too, when it's.

698
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,159
Speaker 3: I believe it, they do fish fish.

699
00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:38,159
Speaker 5: The Alton Bay Airport they call it. It's only open

700
00:36:38,199 --> 00:36:41,360
when the ice is a certain exactly. Yeah, it's like

701
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,440
an air Canada would come in. And when you go

702
00:36:43,519 --> 00:36:46,920
out on the frozen lake like where I grew up. Yes,

703
00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:49,320
you walk out on that lake and you can hear

704
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,679
the ice moving like oh yeah, yeah, it's like tectronic plates.

705
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, it makes the craziest noises. It's thank you.

706
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,679
Brandy Bays also talking about ice and snow and cold

707
00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:05,760
and everything up there in Edmonton, Canada. Real close to

708
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,280
an off pole is Kim, Kim, how are you to

709
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:10,639
be here?

710
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 10: You're scaring me? Hold on by cold?

711
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 3: Dok uh? Once again? Male model. I look at him,

712
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,559
I'm thinking coke problem.

713
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 4: You know.

714
00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: Probably I'm seeing.

715
00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 4: His face at one of the bus stops. I'm seeing

716
00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:31,599
it at the bus stop right beside that face.

717
00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:32,599
Speaker 10: Get out.

718
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,199
Speaker 4: Besides Tom Brady advertising pizza or something, we used to

719
00:37:37,199 --> 00:37:40,920
advertise watchers now he's got pizzas. What's up with that guy?

720
00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 3: He didn't have the money, you know, and he sucks

721
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,239
in the air. I'm sorry. Tom Brady was our hero

722
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,719
for like twenty years. He was like Superman. But now

723
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,280
he's on Fox Sports. He's terrible at it, just terrible.

724
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,880
He's making sixty million a year. Terrible at it. Anyway,

725
00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:02,960
stay the pizzas. Let's continue with the introductions. Also with

726
00:38:03,039 --> 00:38:08,840
us a good friend Mary.

727
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,159
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, what if he gets invited to the Taylor

728
00:38:10,199 --> 00:38:10,840
Swift wedding?

729
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure he is, but someone wants it described

730
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,960
him as an unrelatable weirdo and and and he is

731
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,039
in a way, you know, he's he's I don't think

732
00:38:20,039 --> 00:38:23,880
he's in with the the normals, you know what I mean.

733
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,320
I don't think it's I think he's yeah, yeah, great

734
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:32,039
football player, right, super dupe of everything. But that doesn't

735
00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:34,440
mean he's a genius anyway. Also with us is a

736
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,199
good friend Mary the medium, and we're gonna have to

737
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:39,440
clap for her, just not to break a break our spell,

738
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:45,320
you know what? Okay, Mary, how are you? Mary?

739
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 8: I'm great, I'm great. I'm very happy to be here.

740
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,960
As usual, it's always a wonderful night.

741
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 3: Always you tell us if it wasn't, would you tell

742
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,280
us somehow.

743
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 8: I'd say it in a nice way.

744
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 3: Oh really, Or else you just wouldn't show up. I

745
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,119
just wouldn't show up.

746
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 8: That would just be like, wow, it was a really interesting,

747
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:04,000
quiet kind of night.

748
00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:05,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

749
00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 4: I know your your mother. Maybe your mother didn't, but

750
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,960
my mother used to say, if you can't say anything

751
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,920
nice about somebody, don't say it at all.

752
00:39:13,039 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, my mother said you could just say she's

753
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,039
gonna go do the laundry or something.

754
00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

755
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,119
Speaker 5: I just turned something else to do. I got to

756
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,440
give my cat a bath or something, wash my hair.

757
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, got spirits to talk to.

758
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:29,599
Speaker 3: Things to do, yeah, yeah, right, things to do? Better thing,

759
00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:33,159
I got spirits knocking the door down. I can't hang

760
00:39:33,159 --> 00:39:37,920
out tonight. Also in the room with us training us

761
00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:41,599
is uh. I don't know how to introduce you. You

762
00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:45,000
what your usual your pen name or your your stage

763
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:48,880
name be? Really is Cynthia Smith? Let's clap for her

764
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:56,360
songwriter performer, And I have no idea that.

765
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 4: I got a CD from her, A signed it.

766
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,519
Speaker 3: If I had a list of your alcohol, we'd be Yeah,

767
00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:04,159
how many CDs you've done? Seven?

768
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:04,679
Speaker 13: Eleven.

769
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 14: Number eleven dropped today really yeah from Bristol Studio.

770
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, Bristol Studio. You have the ads yeah yeah,

771
00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:16,559
great studio. Yeah yeah really yep, yep. And you've been there, hell.

772
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 14: Line, I have been there for thirteen years. Yeah yeah,

773
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,400
every Tuesday I go into Boston.

774
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, it's it's you love it. You get to

775
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,840
love it.

776
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,159
Speaker 14: My therapy and my hobby and yeah, it's just it's great.

777
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,519
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah a lot of fun and though in there

778
00:40:32,559 --> 00:40:33,280
with those people.

779
00:40:33,519 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

780
00:40:34,639 --> 00:40:37,639
Speaker 3: So anyway, Bristol Studios, Yeah, I dropped you. What's the

781
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:38,079
name of it?

782
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 13: The oh, the the CD. Yeah, it's called More Is

783
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:42,559
Never Enough?

784
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:49,039
Speaker 3: More Is Never Enough. Oh, I'm sorry. And the naming

785
00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:57,840
of being his lip juice. Anyway, so thanks for joining us.

786
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:58,639
Speaker 13: Nice to be back.

787
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 3: When they started talking about the hearing the ice break

788
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,239
on Lake Hockey, I being down yours.

789
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, we hear the ice crunching.

790
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 3: In the hotub outside by the way. Yeah, and it'd

791
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,039
be like sixteen degrees and you'd hear that ice crunching.

792
00:41:12,519 --> 00:41:15,639
Speaker 14: When we first moved in, we thought we had broken

793
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:18,159
a water Maine because it was so loud when the

794
00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:22,159
ice crunches against the river. You know, it's like shattering glass.

795
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,440
It's very amazing and.

796
00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:27,199
Speaker 3: You're sitting there on twenty degree will water. So anyway,

797
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,000
thanks to join Ann.

798
00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:28,679
Speaker 13: Thank you.

799
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:31,039
Speaker 3: You're a very spiritual person. Would you say that, I

800
00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:34,440
would say, Okay, have you've seen ghosts, you've had experiences.

801
00:41:34,519 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 13: I have not seen a ghost. I've felt one. Yeah,

802
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,239
I felt I have had Yeah.

803
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: I know.

804
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,079
Speaker 14: Actually I did see when I was living on Plum Island,

805
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:45,079
I had a vision at the end of the bed

806
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,440
of some man, you know, standing there was a.

807
00:41:48,519 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 3: Mal was it was an old house sir?

808
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 13: Uh, well it was a cottage.

809
00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:55,679
Speaker 9: Yeah.

810
00:41:55,679 --> 00:41:57,199
Speaker 13: I don't think it was haunted or anything. I just

811
00:41:57,199 --> 00:41:59,079
think it was something that came to me that night.

812
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that vision was Mac. No no, I just

813
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,119
moved down that ten years ago.

814
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,199
Speaker 13: I didn't know Mac that maybe he was like premonition.

815
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 3: That could be it's speaking in your bedroom. Sounds like me.

816
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:22,280
Let's move on. So Brandy, you have a report for us, right, yes,

817
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,480
I do. Okay, so pretend your music is right here. Okay,

818
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,760
thank you. Let's clamp from Brandy before the report pre

819
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,760
report applause, because we know it's going to be that

820
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,400
good please, Brandy go okay.

821
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 9: This is a report on miraculous images, and I used

822
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,960
the book Miraculous Images by Marilyn Hughes and the book

823
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,039
The Greatest Mysteries of the Unexplained, the Daily Mail website,

824
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:53,840
the Lady of Good counsel website, Veronicaconference dot org, and

825
00:42:53,920 --> 00:43:00,199
Catholic Culture dot org. So the creation of really just

826
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,760
imagery without being made by the aid of human hands

827
00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:10,119
is known as a caro poeta, and that's a Greek

828
00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:14,320
word that kind of translates to not made by hands,

829
00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:19,039
and it can occur throughout the world and can range

830
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,079
from like the image of Jesus on a piece of

831
00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:29,039
toast to something like the shroud of Turin. Typically, though

832
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:34,159
a cara poeta refers to the inhuman appearance of a definite,

833
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:41,519
iconic religious image, there is a distinction that these kind

834
00:43:41,559 --> 00:43:48,360
of images are universally recognizable and unambiguous. There's a subtle

835
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,199
difference between these kind of images and the kind of

836
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:57,159
images that we kind of think are happening on ordinary

837
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,400
objects like the toast that I just mentioned, or like

838
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,760
a water spot in the image of the Blessed Virgin

839
00:44:05,199 --> 00:44:10,960
on a wall. The less definite images sometimes are referred

840
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:17,039
to as iconoplasms or simulacra, or you can just call

841
00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:22,880
them miraculous images. These types of images of religious figures

842
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,400
on common objects occur to people of any faith, where

843
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,760
the other kind, the akara poeta, are more or less

844
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,960
Christian or Catholic based. So I want to kind of

845
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,360
look at a couple of the the other kind, the

846
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:46,760
toast kind, that are quote unquote miraculous. And one of

847
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,679
the most famous of this kind is the images of

848
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,400
our Lady on rose petals. And there are two really

849
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,960
famous instances of this. One was in nineteen forty eight

850
00:44:59,079 --> 00:45:03,159
there was a f Filippino carmelite nun named Terracita Castillo,

851
00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:08,800
and she began having multiple miraculous events happened to her,

852
00:45:09,519 --> 00:45:14,840
and one of those events was that she would be

853
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:22,280
showered spontaneously with rose petals even inside buildings, and roses

854
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,960
would appear out of thin air when she was around.

855
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,800
And when the petals of these roses were examined, they

856
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,920
were found to contain religious imagery, including pictures of the

857
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:40,199
Last Supper, portraits of the Blessed Virgin, and angelic figures,

858
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:44,599
and even Jesus. And then years later in the eighties,

859
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:50,519
there was an unrelated Filipino resident, a man named Felix Pinada,

860
00:45:51,639 --> 00:45:55,159
and he planted a rose bush. He had a statue

861
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,719
of the Blessed Virgin, and he planted this rose bush

862
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,679
at the feet of the state. And not only did

863
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:10,760
he witnessed the statue subsequently weeping, but the rose bush

864
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,800
when it would lose petals, those petals were stronger in

865
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,000
scent than the ones that were actually blooming. And so

866
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:25,000
he started examining the discarded rose petals, and he discovered

867
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:29,480
that hundreds of them had images of the Blessed Virgin

868
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,880
and other Christian icons on them.

869
00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 3: Okay, Brandy, can I just jump in for a second. So,

870
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,760
so rose petals are very kind of delicate, yea. So

871
00:46:41,039 --> 00:46:44,159
they were like images, religious images etched on them.

872
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 9: Kind of yes, kind of like if you almost like

873
00:46:48,039 --> 00:46:53,159
in a negative so if you took something, maybe that

874
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,360
bleached out the color so that it was the image

875
00:46:57,599 --> 00:47:00,800
was observed like in a white or you know, like

876
00:47:02,199 --> 00:47:05,079
you know how sometimes you can you can bump flowers

877
00:47:05,079 --> 00:47:08,679
into each other or fold the petals and it'll discolor

878
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,400
the petals, they'll look darker. Well, a lot of these images,

879
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,159
some of them were darker, but a lot of them

880
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,119
were lighter, as if somebody had like dribbled bleach onto them.

881
00:47:18,199 --> 00:47:21,519
And if you want to see some images of them,

882
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:26,280
I would google Philippines miraculous rose petals and then just

883
00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:31,840
look at the images tab. And it's crazy. I mean,

884
00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:37,559
it's just very odd that these kinds of images would

885
00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:38,400
be showing up.

886
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 3: On Which is what gets me, is like in a way,

887
00:47:41,039 --> 00:47:45,719
I mean my attention is like we talked about the stigma, right,

888
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,400
the stig monitor is a thing basically people who like

889
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:54,360
altra ult religious would say get impressions of the wounds

890
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,679
of Christ on their palms and on their feet on

891
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:02,920
the so forth right. So right, yeah, I see Mary

892
00:48:03,039 --> 00:48:06,079
on her head and so that's psychological Mary, right. But

893
00:48:06,159 --> 00:48:08,000
for for a plant to do it, how do you

894
00:48:08,199 --> 00:48:09,119
how can you explain?

895
00:48:10,519 --> 00:48:13,559
Speaker 8: Well, I mean how do you explain? It's the divine touch?

896
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:16,840
You guys know the story about our Lady Guadalupe, right

897
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,760
and saving the city and Mexico saving this new Mexico

898
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,960
roses too. So there was a there was a city

899
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,000
that was really struggling, and this man who had great

900
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,519
faith kept preating to praying to our Lady of Guadalupe,

901
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,599
and she told him one day to gather up all

902
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:33,679
the roses he could and bring him down into the city.

903
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,000
And he was like, how is this going to help?

904
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,480
So he had faith. He gathered up all the just

905
00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:43,320
big big thing of roses and city and he said

906
00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:45,559
he you know, he laid him out and when he

907
00:48:45,639 --> 00:48:47,199
laid it out, there wasn't roses in it. There was

908
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:52,000
a whole tapestry of our Lady of Guadalupe and brought Yeah.

909
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:55,719
So I mean it's it's there's a lot of divine

910
00:48:56,159 --> 00:48:59,320
kind of hands and things, and I think you know, people.

911
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 3: Can see they want us to not just coming from

912
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:05,320
human physiology. Is that word right? This is coming from

913
00:49:05,559 --> 00:49:09,519
you know, kind of outside. Brandy, go ahead, please, Brandy, Okay.

914
00:49:09,679 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, all of this is supposed to be non human created.

915
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,400
There is a news channel in Houston called Eyewitness News

916
00:49:20,519 --> 00:49:24,199
Channel thirteen and they have on their website a video

917
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:29,800
of miraculous images of this kind. And there are a

918
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:34,960
lot of shots of Christian imagery like Jesus and Mary,

919
00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:38,840
angels and things that people have sent in on trees,

920
00:49:39,559 --> 00:49:42,599
on rocks. Somebody sent in a photo of a baking

921
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,239
sheet that had an image of the blessed Virgin on it.

922
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,159
Somebody sent in a picture of a tortilla with a

923
00:49:49,199 --> 00:49:53,719
picture of Jesus on it. And some of these images

924
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,199
that the video shows, you can see that people have

925
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,159
erected shrines around them and other people are like leaving

926
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:11,039
offerings to them, and I mean right exactly. In this

927
00:50:11,119 --> 00:50:17,239
book called The Unexplained, the authors Lucy Doncaster and Andrew

928
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:22,679
Holland discuss miracle vegetables that produced images when you cut

929
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:23,360
them in half.

930
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 3: Nice, okay, And.

931
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,039
Speaker 9: There are numerous messages that were passed on through the

932
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:34,360
seeds of egg plants. Okay, The messages were visible when

933
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,360
you cut the egg plant in half, like length wise,

934
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:43,280
and one egg plant spelled the word Allah in Arabic script,

935
00:50:44,199 --> 00:50:48,320
which the family took was an obvious sign that they

936
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:53,079
were being blessed by Allah. And so they made like

937
00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:54,920
a feast out of that egg plant.

938
00:50:55,119 --> 00:50:59,039
Speaker 3: The egg plant. Okay, all right, Well, you know I'd

939
00:50:59,039 --> 00:50:59,960
probably hang on to it.

940
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 9: Well, that's coming up, because two other eggplant miracles happened

941
00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:09,440
that same year, which was nineteen ninety seven. Two separate

942
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,760
Hindu families each cut into an egg plant and they

943
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,360
saw the Hindu symbol for God on both pieces, and

944
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:21,880
those egg plants were so miraculous that they were displayed

945
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,000
at the Hindu temples and hundreds of people came to

946
00:51:25,039 --> 00:51:31,039
witness that miracle. And also, strangely, in nineteen ninety seven,

947
00:51:31,199 --> 00:51:35,519
a Muslim girl cut into a tomato and on one

948
00:51:35,599 --> 00:51:39,360
half of the tomato the sea the seeds were arranged

949
00:51:41,199 --> 00:51:46,639
in Arabic to tell part of a verse from the Koran.

950
00:51:46,679 --> 00:51:51,360
I believe it was the verse about There's only one God.

951
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,760
And then the other half of the tomato said, and

952
00:51:54,199 --> 00:51:58,440
Muhammed is his prophet. So I mean, those two havels

953
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,840
didn't even mirror each other, so obviously that was a

954
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,119
divine message that was sent to them. There are a

955
00:52:06,119 --> 00:52:09,360
ton of examples like this, but I'll just say one

956
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,039
more before I get into the rest of this, and

957
00:52:11,039 --> 00:52:13,920
that was in twenty twenty, there was a water stain

958
00:52:14,639 --> 00:52:18,719
that appeared on a cement wall of a bakery car

959
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:23,480
park in Bogata, Columbia, and it was first noticed by

960
00:52:23,519 --> 00:52:26,719
the security card while he was doing his surrounds. And

961
00:52:27,159 --> 00:52:30,159
this was not like a water stain that was beautiful

962
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,719
or anything. I was all rusty and nasty looking, but

963
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:39,320
it was apparently the image of the blessed Virgin and

964
00:52:40,559 --> 00:52:44,880
people came. Nearly the bakery owner said after this was discovered,

965
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:49,760
nearly seventy five people came every day just to visit

966
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:55,760
this wall and you know, light a candle at the shrine.

967
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,760
She the bakery owner, considered herself blessed by the Virgin Mary.

968
00:53:00,159 --> 00:53:03,519
That one you can see if you google Bogata, Columbia,

969
00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:04,880
Virgin Mary waterstain.

970
00:53:05,159 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, once again, that's uh, lip Juice's first.

971
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 9: So those kind of quote unquote miracles, you know, maybe

972
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,920
messages from God or angels, but sometimes they can be

973
00:53:22,519 --> 00:53:27,039
occurrences of paradolia, which is where your mind will like

974
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:32,280
make order out of random images and it'll like fill

975
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,440
in the blinks and try to make it into something

976
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,199
you recognize. So sometimes the people are looking for that

977
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:42,960
kind of thing or really you know, faithful followers, that's

978
00:53:43,079 --> 00:53:45,639
always on their mind, and so that's just what they

979
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:50,159
see in a lot of things. Yes, it is interesting

980
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,360
though the authors about the road about the vegetables, they

981
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,800
did note that all of the vegetables that were cut

982
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:03,199
into that had these messages were in languages that used

983
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:09,239
like fluid script to write their language. Nothing in the

984
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:14,880
vegetables which are organic appeared in like straight block lettering

985
00:54:15,039 --> 00:54:18,239
like we would use, or like you know, like ruins

986
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:25,440
would appear or anything like that. Okay, So contrasting with

987
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:31,199
that kind of miraculous imagery, the akaru poeta are pretty

988
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:35,679
much specific to the Christian religion, and they began to

989
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,159
become kind of in vogue during the early Middle Ages

990
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,559
because there was a debate in the Church about whether

991
00:54:41,639 --> 00:54:46,920
or not it was okay to have icons in your home,

992
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:52,239
because you're not supposed to worship icons, especially in Eastern Orthodox,

993
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:58,480
which is the Greek religion, that Greek Christian religion that

994
00:54:58,599 --> 00:55:03,880
really kind of jumped on board with these miraculous images.

995
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:10,440
But if God is creating the images and human hands aren't,

996
00:55:10,639 --> 00:55:14,960
then how could you be blasphemous by having these, you know,

997
00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:21,400
having and recognizing these images. So there are five very

998
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,840
famous examples of this kind of imagery. One is the

999
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:32,360
Veil of Veronica, Another is the Manipello image, another is

1000
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,960
the image of Our Lady of Good Counsel, and as

1001
00:55:36,039 --> 00:55:39,559
Mary noted, another is the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe,

1002
00:55:40,599 --> 00:55:43,760
and the last one is the Shroud of Turin. And

1003
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:48,480
those are all very well known images. Our Lady of

1004
00:55:48,519 --> 00:55:51,360
Guadalupe we may do in a later report, and the

1005
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,360
Shroud of Turin Will is so involved that we'll just

1006
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:55,719
do a.

1007
00:55:55,679 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 3: Whole report on that next time.

1008
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 9: But to get into the three just briefly, I'm going

1009
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,880
to start with the image of Our Lady of Good Counsel.

1010
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:11,159
This is a portrait of the Madonna and Child that

1011
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:17,880
was miraculously created without the use of human hands in Genezano, Italy.

1012
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:25,679
In the fifth century. The church in Genazano dedicated a

1013
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,280
church to Our Lady of Good Council. And on April

1014
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,800
twenty fifth of fourteen fifty seven, when the church was

1015
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,559
undergoing a renovation and it didn't have a roof, it

1016
00:56:36,679 --> 00:56:39,960
was holding this yearly celebration that they always held to

1017
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,599
honor Saint Mark. And at four o'clock that day, the

1018
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:48,320
people suddenly saw cloud coming toward them, and it basically

1019
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,280
descended on the church and engulfed the church in this cloud,

1020
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,440
and so nobody could see anything. But moments later, when

1021
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,800
the cloud lifted, a complete portrait of this Madonna and

1022
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:04,320
Child was on the wall, and it was like painted

1023
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,840
on a thin fresco, so it was too thin to

1024
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,840
be to be moved and carried around like if you

1025
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:16,239
touch it it could crack or break. It's still there

1026
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:22,199
to this day. Soon after this happened, there were two

1027
00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:26,760
people from Albania who visited the church and saw the fresco,

1028
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:31,239
and they were astonished because they testified before a papal

1029
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:36,119
delegation that the exact same fresco was previously in a

1030
00:57:36,199 --> 00:57:43,000
church in Scutari, Albania, weeks before it appeared in Genazano,

1031
00:57:43,559 --> 00:57:49,079
and they believed that it was miraculously transported to Genazano.

1032
00:57:51,079 --> 00:57:55,360
It is seventeen inches by fifteen inches and the empty

1033
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:59,719
spot at Scutari, Albania is seventeen inches by fifteen inches.

1034
00:58:00,719 --> 00:58:04,559
And after this fresco appeared in Genazano, all these healings

1035
00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:10,079
and miracles occurred there and in I don't know what

1036
00:58:10,199 --> 00:58:13,480
you're but Pope Leo the thirteenth had the church elevated

1037
00:58:13,559 --> 00:58:17,199
because of this fresco to the status of a minor basilica,

1038
00:58:18,239 --> 00:58:22,119
and the Vatican actually has a replica of this fresco

1039
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,599
at the Vatican Basilica.

1040
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 4: Whoa are these appearances? Are these images occurring more frequently

1041
00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:36,000
later lately than say, in the distant past.

1042
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 9: Maybe the other kind that we were talking about. The

1043
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:45,480
paradolia might be just because people are looking for comfort

1044
00:58:45,639 --> 00:58:51,800
and answers, you know, when things get crazy and tumultuous

1045
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:57,159
in the world, and so they're maybe subconsciously, but some

1046
00:58:57,239 --> 00:59:00,880
of them may be consciously asking for signs then, so

1047
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:02,840
they're looking for those great things.

1048
00:59:03,039 --> 00:59:08,119
Speaker 3: Can I just say, but I didn't ask a question too? Okay?

1049
00:59:08,199 --> 00:59:08,760
You ready for this?

1050
00:59:09,719 --> 00:59:11,599
Speaker 13: Good? I'm glad you are asking some because I have

1051
00:59:11,679 --> 00:59:12,840
something to say about this too.

1052
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 3: You go, all right, you live in a beautiful house, right, everything,

1053
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,280
and then the area is pinpoint perfect to.

1054
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,559
Speaker 13: Say, well, that's your observation.

1055
00:59:25,639 --> 00:59:29,119
Speaker 3: Ware there it is. Okay, So if you woke up

1056
00:59:29,159 --> 00:59:31,280
one day and there's a water stain on one of

1057
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,039
your walls and one of your beautiful rooms and it

1058
00:59:34,119 --> 00:59:38,159
looked like, let's say Jesus, you know, would you get

1059
00:59:38,239 --> 00:59:39,960
rid of it? Would you got it away?

1060
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 13: Absolutely?

1061
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:41,599
Speaker 4: Not?

1062
00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:45,119
Speaker 3: Okay, But I have to tell you.

1063
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,199
Speaker 14: Probably about ten years ago, we have we always put

1064
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:51,119
artificial trees on our decks that overlook the river, and

1065
00:59:51,159 --> 00:59:55,119
we have lights on them. And one winter, when the

1066
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,159
snow is melting, we had a lot of snow with

1067
00:59:57,199 --> 01:00:01,599
the snow melted into a perfect size size of an angel. Yeah,

1068
01:00:01,679 --> 01:00:03,079
and I tried to find the picture. I don't have

1069
01:00:03,119 --> 01:00:05,119
it here, but I'll have to send that to you. Yeah,

1070
01:00:05,159 --> 01:00:07,320
but it was really it was literally an angel.

1071
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah. See so Brandy, stuff like this happened all

1072
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:11,440
the time.

1073
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 9: Did you did you had you like been praying or like,

1074
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,760
did you take it as a sign of anything, were

1075
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,280
you like looking for something or looking for an answer

1076
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,760
to something? Well, we had something happened.

1077
01:00:23,039 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 14: We live in a house that was owned by a

1078
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,599
minister and his wife, and we actually befriended them and

1079
01:00:28,719 --> 01:00:29,559
they came to our wedding.

1080
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 13: We've invited them to all it. So we feel like

1081
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,000
we've been blessed ever since we moved this house twenty

1082
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:34,679
six years ago.

1083
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:35,039
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1084
01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:37,119
Speaker 13: Ok, it was a really cool story.

1085
01:00:37,239 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 3: You should see this place.

1086
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 13: It is pretty neat.

1087
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 3: Yeah wow wow, Brand, So it is kind of cool

1088
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,960
that it happens. You know, the people we don't hear

1089
01:00:45,079 --> 01:00:47,679
I mean that it happens. We don't necessarily hear about it,

1090
01:00:48,679 --> 01:00:50,800
right comes all the time? Brand.

1091
01:00:51,679 --> 01:00:59,639
Speaker 9: Okay, So some other miracles of this a Caro Poeta.

1092
01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:04,519
Most the other known ones happened on pieces of linen,

1093
01:01:05,559 --> 01:01:08,199
and one of these is what is known as the

1094
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:12,360
veil of Veronica, and this is an incident that is

1095
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:18,079
not found in the scriptures, but supposedly, as Jesus was

1096
01:01:18,159 --> 01:01:21,559
carrying the cross up to Calvary, a woman in the

1097
01:01:21,599 --> 01:01:25,360
crowd offered him her veil so he could wipe his face,

1098
01:01:26,199 --> 01:01:31,519
and she is known as Veronica, and she has since

1099
01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:35,960
been sainted. It's unknown whether she actually existed or not,

1100
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,320
because none of this was in the Bible, but even

1101
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,960
if she did, nobody knows what her real name might

1102
01:01:42,039 --> 01:01:46,320
be because the name Veronica is actually a combination of a

1103
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,679
Latin word vera, which means truth, and the Greek word icon,

1104
01:01:51,079 --> 01:01:55,119
which means image. And so the legend said that when

1105
01:01:55,199 --> 01:01:58,519
Jesus wiped his face and then returned the veil to

1106
01:01:58,599 --> 01:02:04,119
this woman, portrait was transferred and infused onto the veil,

1107
01:02:04,239 --> 01:02:07,800
complete with the blood stains that were supposedly on his

1108
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:14,280
face from the crown of Thorns. So originally the veil

1109
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,599
itself was called the Veronica because it was supposedly the

1110
01:02:18,679 --> 01:02:22,920
true image of Christ's face. So now the woman who

1111
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:27,199
gave the veil is also referred to as Veronica, and

1112
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,239
she has actually been referenced in some of the apocryphal texts,

1113
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,239
namely the Acts of Pilot and the Gospel of Nicodemus,

1114
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,960
neither of which I have read. But the Catholic Church

1115
01:02:38,519 --> 01:02:42,719
regards the incident as actually having happened, even though it's

1116
01:02:42,719 --> 01:02:46,559
not in the Bible, because it is memorialized as one

1117
01:02:46,599 --> 01:02:50,840
of the stations of the Cross, the sixth station. And

1118
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:56,639
the legend says that after this incident, Veronica took the

1119
01:02:56,719 --> 01:03:01,400
veil to Roman Emperor Tiberius Augustus because he requested it.

1120
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,760
He was he had some kind of sickness, I think

1121
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:09,800
a blood condition, and he requested that she brings the

1122
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,920
veil because he thought it would heal him, and of

1123
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:21,760
course it did, and so it is also, you know,

1124
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:26,000
venerated the veil because of its healing properties, because it

1125
01:03:26,039 --> 01:03:34,000
has touched the body of Jesus. It probably arrived in Rome,

1126
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:38,719
they think, when she took it to a Tiberius Augustus.

1127
01:03:39,159 --> 01:03:44,000
But today the original veil is supposedly at Saint Peter's

1128
01:03:44,039 --> 01:03:47,039
Basilica in Rome. It is six and a half by

1129
01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:50,199
nine and a half inches and it is on delicate

1130
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,320
thin linen, and it is like basically encased inside two

1131
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,719
sheets of glass with a frame around it, and they

1132
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,920
only display it one time a year, the Passion Sunday event.

1133
01:04:02,119 --> 01:04:04,199
Speaker 3: So you can see it. You can see this thing.

1134
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,039
Speaker 9: You can only see it once a year. Yeah, but

1135
01:04:07,119 --> 01:04:11,920
you can't really test it. Scientific testing isn't possible because

1136
01:04:12,039 --> 01:04:16,440
of this glass, because because there's no air inside the glass,

1137
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:20,599
they're afraid that if they open it, it's just gonna disintegrate.

1138
01:04:20,079 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 3: After having been in there for so long.

1139
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 9: But people do say that they feel like they see

1140
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:32,039
the veil giving off a glow when it's displayed, and

1141
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,480
you know, they feel like being in proximity to it

1142
01:04:36,119 --> 01:04:40,719
heals them of various things. There have been copies made

1143
01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:46,000
that have supposedly touched this veil, and so they're imbued

1144
01:04:46,039 --> 01:04:50,239
with this healing property. And one of those copies is

1145
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,480
in Vienna, two are in Spain, and there's at least

1146
01:04:53,519 --> 01:04:59,840
two others in Italy. And the last of the most

1147
01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:05,599
well known items of miraculous imagery is another portrait of

1148
01:05:05,679 --> 01:05:10,360
Jesus's face, and this was miraculously infused into linen without

1149
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,519
the use of human hands, and it's the image of Manipello.

1150
01:05:14,639 --> 01:05:18,239
And this was a cloth that reportedly covered the face

1151
01:05:18,239 --> 01:05:23,320
of Jesus inside the tomb. The shroud of Turin also

1152
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:27,119
covered Jesus inside the tomb, but the burial practices I

1153
01:05:27,159 --> 01:05:31,079
guess of that era required more than one layer, and

1154
01:05:31,119 --> 01:05:35,519
a specific cloth just to cover the face also, and

1155
01:05:35,559 --> 01:05:39,039
so this one, this image of Manipella, was on this

1156
01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:42,480
cloth that just covered the face. And the church, the

1157
01:05:42,519 --> 01:05:46,360
Catholic Church, is kind of divided as to whether this

1158
01:05:47,159 --> 01:05:50,840
is the same cloth as the veil of Veronica or

1159
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:55,480
whether there's two distinct relics, And of course the church

1160
01:05:55,800 --> 01:06:01,639
in Manipello thinks this is a distinct different relic. But

1161
01:06:01,719 --> 01:06:05,079
some people think that the real veil of Veronica is

1162
01:06:05,199 --> 01:06:08,559
this image of Manipello, and that the veil of Veronica

1163
01:06:08,639 --> 01:06:13,599
that's at Saint Peter's Basilica is one of those copies

1164
01:06:13,639 --> 01:06:17,559
that was touched to the real veil of Vernica or

1165
01:06:17,679 --> 01:06:20,800
image of Manipello. But the image of Manipello is also

1166
01:06:21,119 --> 01:06:23,079
six and a half by nine and a half inches,

1167
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:29,719
and it looks like like an artist painted a portrait

1168
01:06:30,239 --> 01:06:35,400
on this piece of linen in the color of dried blood.

1169
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 3: Crazy.

1170
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 9: But this linen is so thin that you can read

1171
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,760
a newspaper through it, and it seems to have like

1172
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,840
a holographic quality to where when you're viewing it, if

1173
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:50,000
you stand one way, you see one thing, and if

1174
01:06:50,039 --> 01:06:53,760
you stand at a different angle you see another image

1175
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:58,519
or a different look to the image. It was tested

1176
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:02,199
in nineteen seventy seven with ultra violet light and it

1177
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:06,719
showed that the linen fibers themselves were not colored. They

1178
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,840
weren't I guess the flax or whatever was used didn't

1179
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:14,000
have any color to it, and microscopic imaging revealed that

1180
01:07:14,159 --> 01:07:17,800
it had not been painted on, and the image was

1181
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:21,400
identical on both sides of the cloth, which meant that

1182
01:07:21,639 --> 01:07:28,760
somehow whatever it was transferred perfectly on both sides. There

1183
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,519
wasn't like a backside from a color bleed through. It

1184
01:07:31,639 --> 01:07:33,960
was exactly the same on both sides.

1185
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 3: If even if there was like a hoax involved two

1186
01:07:42,559 --> 01:07:47,239
thousand years ago, who hit the technology to do this,

1187
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,519
they probably couldn't do it these days and go through

1188
01:07:49,519 --> 01:07:52,400
that trouble for what gain? But what gain? Right? Exactly?

1189
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,039
Speaker 9: Well, I mean I guess you could. You would if

1190
01:07:56,079 --> 01:07:59,599
you had this kind of this kind of relic, you

1191
01:07:59,639 --> 01:08:03,920
would have hundreds or thousands of people visiting your church

1192
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,960
and bringing you money.

1193
01:08:06,599 --> 01:08:07,599
Speaker 1: That might be the key.

1194
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,199
Speaker 9: Ahead but I mean at some point the testing men

1195
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:17,640
would disprove it so and in this case it hasn't.

1196
01:08:18,159 --> 01:08:22,600
So this this unlike the Shadow of Turn or the

1197
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:27,960
Veil of Veronica. Even this image on the image of Manipella,

1198
01:08:28,199 --> 01:08:32,800
is different because it shows Jesus's face with his eyes open.

1199
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:38,399
And there's something about that holographic imagery with the eyes

1200
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:43,479
that I guess is very attractive to people, like they

1201
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:48,560
feel like they're looking into maybe Jesus's soul by seeing

1202
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:54,079
these eyes at different angles when they look at this image. Also,

1203
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,159
the mouth of this image is open a little bit

1204
01:08:58,359 --> 01:09:03,800
and actually shows teeth, which is, you know, probably one

1205
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,479
of the only images of Jesus that shows him with

1206
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:07,920
his mouth.

1207
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 3: He has fine teeth. I think he has a fine

1208
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,159
set of choppas. How we're going to think he's God.

1209
01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:15,560
So why would he have dental ty kay or anything? Right?

1210
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,359
Speaker 4: Why he Yeah, they had good dentistpect then they yeah.

1211
01:09:19,159 --> 01:09:25,039
Speaker 9: Right, So anyway, good. One thing the Church does agree

1212
01:09:25,079 --> 01:09:28,960
on is that at least one and possibly two of

1213
01:09:29,039 --> 01:09:33,760
these images was not made by human hands and appear

1214
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,800
to be the originals that any of the other relicate

1215
01:09:38,239 --> 01:09:44,680
relics or duplicates were made by human hands. So that's

1216
01:09:45,119 --> 01:09:46,840
that's pretty much.

1217
01:09:47,119 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 3: I mean, that's really kind of what do you if

1218
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,239
you have to think for a second, what's really going

1219
01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:55,000
on here? You know what I mean? I mean, this

1220
01:09:55,159 --> 01:09:57,760
is like really really bizarre stuff.

1221
01:09:58,399 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 9: Well, like a cloud comes over the church and then

1222
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:03,239
minutes later there's a painting.

1223
01:10:03,359 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what what's going on?

1224
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,399
Speaker 9: How that happen? Yeah?

1225
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,039
Speaker 3: I wonder if these are you know, not take the

1226
01:10:10,119 --> 01:10:11,880
religious saying a lot of it, but I wonder if

1227
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,840
these are just glitches and the matrix, you know what

1228
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,520
I mean. I mean, you know, I mean, glitch is

1229
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,640
just like kind of happen. They happen all the time,

1230
01:10:20,279 --> 01:10:23,199
and maybe that's just what this is.

1231
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 4: You can't explain any of these images tightly, you know,

1232
01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:30,199
you say, well, it could be this, could be that. Yeah,

1233
01:10:30,199 --> 01:10:34,279
it could be your imagination. It's about thousands of people's imagination. Look,

1234
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,800
you know, if these.

1235
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:40,520
Speaker 9: Are like tangible artifacts right on the rose pedal nuts,

1236
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,479
you know, uh hmm, wow, that's great.

1237
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,359
Speaker 3: Brandy, let's clap a brandy.

1238
01:10:47,159 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 10: Awesome.

1239
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 3: Awesome is the word, thank you, thank you.

1240
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,319
Speaker 8: Can I talk about something it's a little bit similar

1241
01:10:54,319 --> 01:10:57,960
to the art, but you've been to the Littleretta Charetta

1242
01:10:58,079 --> 01:11:00,079
Chapel in New Mexico.

1243
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:05,560
Speaker 3: Chapel. Oh yeah, yeah. Last week I got so many

1244
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:09,439
people send emails about that stairway to Heaven. I mean,

1245
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:10,560
can you talk about.

1246
01:11:10,319 --> 01:11:11,319
Speaker 9: The stairway Mary?

1247
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, well I've been there. I got I got

1248
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,439
to actually visit. I couldn't go on the stairway them

1249
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,479
your Yeah, I went to the church. Yeah, and the

1250
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,960
you know the story about it being Saint Joseph coming

1251
01:11:21,039 --> 01:11:23,640
and Master capperent are coming to build it and all that.

1252
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,960
But they originally did it because you couldn't have a

1253
01:11:26,039 --> 01:11:27,800
choir of girls because they would have.

1254
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 3: To go up the loft, right yeah, yeah, yeah, it hurts, right.

1255
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:35,520
Speaker 8: But it's it is spectacular, I have I can say.

1256
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:36,800
It is perfect.

1257
01:11:37,199 --> 01:11:37,520
Speaker 4: It is.

1258
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 8: It is perfect. They didn't use any nails, right, yes, yeah,

1259
01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:44,039
it's it's you. You walk in and it's just it's

1260
01:11:44,079 --> 01:11:46,439
a miracle. The only people they let on the stairs

1261
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,279
are people who do their wedding at the Loretta Chapel

1262
01:11:49,319 --> 01:11:51,880
and want to get pictures taken. Oh yeah, yeah, that's

1263
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:53,399
the only people they let on the stairs.

1264
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:57,319
Speaker 3: So the click is down there. So it's down in

1265
01:11:57,319 --> 01:12:02,640
New Mexico. Yeah, the chapel and and just a chapel

1266
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,399
and this they needed a stairway up to the Quie

1267
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:09,039
loft whatever. So this guy wand is along in people

1268
01:12:09,079 --> 01:12:11,680
think he was seeing Joseph happened. And he makes this

1269
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,600
and just go online and build and and google it.

1270
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:21,880
It's this fantastic you know, helios triple spiral staircase made

1271
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:26,000
with no nails. It seems to defy gravity, physics whatever.

1272
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,720
It's this beautiful thing in the middle of you know,

1273
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,800
a chapel. Basically no one knows who did it, didn't exist.

1274
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 8: Yeah would the wood They tested the wood, they said,

1275
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,920
they tested the wood. It came from you know, Jerusalem.

1276
01:12:39,079 --> 01:12:40,720
And the way that he did it was he took

1277
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,720
buckets and like dipped the wood in the buckets and

1278
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:44,600
then molded them.

1279
01:12:45,079 --> 01:12:45,279
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1280
01:12:47,279 --> 01:12:51,159
Speaker 8: But yeah, no, it was. Yeah, it was. It's in

1281
01:12:51,239 --> 01:12:53,239
a center column. There's nothing holding out.

1282
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1283
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:57,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's what the show up. The guy was

1284
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,640
just walking by, right, you showed up.

1285
01:13:01,239 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 9: He showed up, and then he just left without getting.

1286
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 3: Paid getting paid, so he wasn't in the union.

1287
01:13:09,239 --> 01:13:15,520
Speaker 4: It's like the first pro bono corpentry.

1288
01:13:12,399 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 3: I see.

1289
01:13:16,039 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 5: That's not that's not just the work of a carpenter.

1290
01:13:19,239 --> 01:13:22,600
That's no, no rank and file carpenter could build that

1291
01:13:23,119 --> 01:13:29,439
stare builders are completely different offshoot. Yeah, and that's all

1292
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:33,600
they do is build stairs. And you know it's funny

1293
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,960
because I looked it up after Brandy Cave the report

1294
01:13:36,039 --> 01:13:39,159
last week and I was looking into some of the

1295
01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:43,199
stuff and all of a sudden, like these Facebook feeds

1296
01:13:43,239 --> 01:13:46,720
I was looking through, they were showing spiral staircases that

1297
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:50,399
these guys were hand carving, and I was like, wow,

1298
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:54,199
look at that. Obviously these guys, that's what they do.

1299
01:13:55,159 --> 01:13:58,399
And in some of the Victorian houses from you know,

1300
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,760
back in the Gilded Age, these guys. Yes, all these

1301
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:06,600
guys did was build these incredible staircases for these mansions.

1302
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:10,319
Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, how many of them are wandering through the Yeah,

1303
01:14:10,399 --> 01:14:12,520
and how many of them, you know, do it without nails?

1304
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:14,560
Speaker 3: And how many do without getting paid?

1305
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 4: You didn't have a truck or anything.

1306
01:14:20,159 --> 01:14:22,520
Speaker 3: I broke that truck. Nothing that the docky.

1307
01:14:23,239 --> 01:14:25,520
Speaker 8: But that's the thing. It's like they have like so

1308
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,239
anybody who does carpentrer and it kind of I think,

1309
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,840
like fine work like that has a gift in their hands.

1310
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,680
So we see them physically, whereas you know, these kind

1311
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,000
of paintings and things like that are done by a

1312
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,479
divine hand, right, Yeah.

1313
01:14:37,359 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 3: It's I mean, that's what I mean, that's what's going on. Really.

1314
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,640
I mean, these things come out and then they don't

1315
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,039
have anything to do it humans in a way. You know,

1316
01:14:45,119 --> 01:14:48,439
you get the rose pedal and someone painted the know

1317
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,119
and thenage on the rose pedal.

1318
01:14:50,239 --> 01:14:51,119
Speaker 13: Are they aliens?

1319
01:14:51,159 --> 01:14:51,600
Speaker 3: Maybe?

1320
01:14:53,239 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 8: I think they're higher vibrational beings whether you want to

1321
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:56,840
call them aliens, and I'm not sure.

1322
01:14:57,279 --> 01:14:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, we I think that we

1323
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,800
just don't have enough knowledge to know what any of

1324
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,520
this stuff is, you know what I mean, And maybe

1325
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,640
in a hundred years we'll say, oh, is that You know,

1326
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,399
it's the old lightning rod thing before the lightning rod

1327
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,119
was invented. If you have a house is hit by

1328
01:15:11,199 --> 01:15:14,279
lightning or whatever, your femie was cursed forever. I mean,

1329
01:15:14,319 --> 01:15:17,600
you know, if anyone survived, they would kill you. And

1330
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,760
then you know, whoever invented it just took a little

1331
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,039
thin piece of metal, put it up there and deactivated

1332
01:15:24,079 --> 01:15:27,079
this whole like scary thing finger of a god. Thing

1333
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,640
just took that much. We understand that now, maybe in

1334
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,119
a hundred years, we'll understand oh, you know, the miracles

1335
01:15:33,119 --> 01:15:36,079
and aliens and everything kind of you know, you know,

1336
01:15:36,079 --> 01:15:39,399
it comes together, a matches together, or the same explanation

1337
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:40,079
for him.

1338
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,239
Speaker 4: Or maybe Mary comes back and says, yeah, I did

1339
01:15:43,239 --> 01:15:44,600
all that by remote control.

1340
01:15:47,079 --> 01:15:49,119
Speaker 3: I just had to well, let's be good to marry

1341
01:15:49,159 --> 01:15:55,960
then yes, wow, huh, well thank you. So we have

1342
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,399
a few minutes to go, but I just want to

1343
01:15:58,399 --> 01:16:00,880
through to the Kim real quick, and we'll have to

1344
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,119
probably put a deeper dive into this another show. But

1345
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:08,119
what is really happening just you know, current events. So

1346
01:16:08,279 --> 01:16:10,479
it's stared about two or three weeks ago the sky

1347
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:15,520
this general Air Force general retired, I forget his name,

1348
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:19,119
but he was in with all the big secret He

1349
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:22,600
seriously was involved in black ops and stuff. He was

1350
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:29,319
involved in the government's UFO investigations and so on. He disappears, Okay,

1351
01:16:29,399 --> 01:16:33,279
he disappears. He went hiking, and now they say he

1352
01:16:33,319 --> 01:16:35,800
didn't go hiking whatever. They don't know where this guy is.

1353
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,560
And then people started looking into it, and it turns

1354
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,560
out in the past year or so, there's been five

1355
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:48,159
people similar to this guy involved in black ops, scientists,

1356
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:52,840
military people, who have gone missing or have died very mysteriously.

1357
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,800
It's in the past year or so. I guess Sae

1358
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:57,720
Kim is looking for his notes. But but you know

1359
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,159
when you start looking at it and you go wow, wow,

1360
01:17:00,359 --> 01:17:03,720
what's going on here? Is it is five of these

1361
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:07,319
people dying are missing. Is that a coincidence in five

1362
01:17:07,399 --> 01:17:11,760
years missing one year? Yeah? Yeah, just read this other guy.

1363
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:17,520
The latest guy is missing absolutely without a trace. You know,

1364
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,000
they thought they found his sweatshirt, but it wasn't his.

1365
01:17:20,279 --> 01:17:23,319
And you know, at some point when you're searching, you

1366
01:17:23,359 --> 01:17:26,439
either find you know, bones or remains or some animal

1367
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:31,720
got to them or whatever. Nothing zero. So Kim, what

1368
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:33,359
do you say? What's the latest?

1369
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,239
Speaker 10: I thought I was doing the story on the Devil's.

1370
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,399
Speaker 3: Whole that's doing this.

1371
01:17:39,399 --> 01:17:40,319
Speaker 10: Club's doing this.

1372
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 3: Club's doing this. I'm sorry I mixed you up.

1373
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,359
Speaker 11: You both will think I mean.

1374
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:54,199
Speaker 3: It, okay for those of you at all, I was

1375
01:17:54,199 --> 01:17:54,479
going to.

1376
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 10: Send you some of my notes.

1377
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 4: Actually, I'm sorry.

1378
01:17:57,039 --> 01:18:01,319
Speaker 3: Club, I got let me club, let me throw the club.

1379
01:18:01,319 --> 01:18:03,359
I just see it all right.

1380
01:18:03,359 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 6: Well, anyways, Mac, as you know, you know, and as

1381
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:10,399
you mentioned right now, because of all the chaos in

1382
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:12,680
the country and everywhere for the last month or so,

1383
01:18:13,079 --> 01:18:16,399
you're not hearing a lot about this, so it's sort

1384
01:18:16,399 --> 01:18:20,399
of getting out there, but it just isn't competing with

1385
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,720
some of the other news out there right now. But anyways,

1386
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:29,239
the real story behind this is there are two scientists

1387
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:37,600
who went who worked together. They had and they're both

1388
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:43,239
in the United States, and they had ties to specialized technology,

1389
01:18:45,399 --> 01:18:50,680
some of it with UFOs and some of it used

1390
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:55,920
with different rocket engines and stuff like that. But as

1391
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,359
far as the current story is going, first of all,

1392
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:02,520
let me tell you on those the people that there's

1393
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:06,399
two in particular, but and the other people mentioned that's

1394
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:10,520
sort of not related to this. I think there was

1395
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,279
a little bit too much over reporting on it. For example,

1396
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,560
let me get through that first of all. Dennis Bell,

1397
01:19:17,359 --> 01:19:20,880
he was a British meteorologist who went missing in Echthotica,

1398
01:19:22,399 --> 01:19:26,640
but they found his remains back in twenty twenty five,

1399
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:31,000
but that went back to nineteen fifty nine, so it

1400
01:19:31,079 --> 01:19:35,319
isn't related to this at all. You know, there's also

1401
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:40,520
a climate a prominent client scientist who disappeared in Greenland

1402
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:45,399
back in twenty twenty but a figure fell into crevass

1403
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:51,000
near the research station. And the last one is Daniel

1404
01:19:51,079 --> 01:19:55,279
Robinson who was a g a geologist. He disappeared in

1405
01:19:55,359 --> 01:19:58,199
Arizona and that's why they're trying to tie them in.

1406
01:19:59,079 --> 01:20:03,359
But so they haven't found him yet. Now he disappeared

1407
01:20:03,399 --> 01:20:04,479
in twenty twenty one.

1408
01:20:05,279 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 3: So yes, it.

1409
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 6: Doesn't seem related to these two recent situations. The main

1410
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,039
one has to do with this guy is a General

1411
01:20:15,119 --> 01:20:22,560
William McNeil McCasland. He disappeared about a month ago. He's retired,

1412
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:27,079
though he wasn't an active scientist in this, but he was. Say,

1413
01:20:27,199 --> 01:20:31,479
he's a retired Air Force general. He previously oversaw the

1414
01:20:32,039 --> 01:20:36,640
Air Force Research Lab and he had ties to classified

1415
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:41,000
UFO programs. He went missing in New Mexico after was

1416
01:20:41,119 --> 01:20:43,720
leaving his home without a phone.

1417
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:44,159
Speaker 3: Or a wallet.

1418
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,560
Speaker 6: Now there is kind of a big concern over this

1419
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:53,800
guy because of some classified information he had, but they

1420
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,520
seem to be the latest I got is that from

1421
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,000
what they've been finding is that they don't think he

1422
01:20:59,119 --> 01:21:03,039
was kidnapped their anything. He left his phone at home,

1423
01:21:04,359 --> 01:21:06,319
his cell phone was in the name for then he

1424
01:21:06,399 --> 01:21:08,439
went for a walk out in the desert, which wasn't

1425
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:12,039
uncommon for him. But the other thing is he had

1426
01:21:12,159 --> 01:21:17,640
some illness. You know. There's a couple of theories on it.

1427
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:20,039
But one of the things is if if you have

1428
01:21:20,159 --> 01:21:23,600
a say he had a terminal illness and he was

1429
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:27,119
going to go out, and because he was up by cliffs,

1430
01:21:27,119 --> 01:21:30,000
I guess jump off, you know, you may go on

1431
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:35,640
this side thing, And that's why he left the phone. Normally,

1432
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,239
if you go out in the middle of the desert,

1433
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:41,640
you know, walking alone like that, you take your phone. Yeah,

1434
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:47,159
so that's the latest on it. Now again we don't

1435
01:21:47,199 --> 01:21:51,159
know for sure, but that seems that what we're hearing

1436
01:21:51,199 --> 01:21:55,479
that maybe it isn't anything more than a personal issue

1437
01:21:55,520 --> 01:22:02,600
with that general However. The other is Jason Thomas, and

1438
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:08,600
he was a scientist at Nevadas in Massachusetts, and the

1439
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,600
same thing, he disappeared after leaving his home at night.

1440
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:17,479
His Alpa watch was found in his mailbox in March

1441
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:21,920
of this year, and reports suggest that a body found

1442
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:25,560
in the lake might be his. But we're waiting to

1443
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:31,479
hear on that. So his situation is one that's questionable.

1444
01:22:32,039 --> 01:22:34,560
And the last one is the current one too. In

1445
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:41,279
June of last year, Monica Jacinto Resa I think is

1446
01:22:41,319 --> 01:22:47,680
how you pronounce her name. She's a world class meteorrologist, mettleologist.

1447
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:52,520
I guess how he pots it. She invented. It's called

1448
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:59,279
Mondaloi Mondaloi. It's a super alloy used in rocket engines

1449
01:22:59,359 --> 01:23:04,880
for national security satellites. She went missing well, hiking in

1450
01:23:05,079 --> 01:23:10,840
the Angeles National Forest. Now reports in March of this

1451
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:15,880
year have linked her disappearance to a wider concerning pattern

1452
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:20,399
of missing or dead scientists. That person, I guess, is

1453
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:23,880
one that they're more concerned about than the others right

1454
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:28,680
now because of the she also had secret information, but

1455
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,079
it sounds like they're not as much concerned with the

1456
01:23:32,119 --> 01:23:36,199
fact of UFOs or something. Ye yes, they're tying it

1457
01:23:36,319 --> 01:23:40,079
more and through espionage, yep, you know, whether it's the

1458
01:23:40,199 --> 01:23:43,800
Chinese or the Russians or whatever. So that one is

1459
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,720
the one that's still really opened more than the others.

1460
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,239
And you know, there were a couple other ones too.

1461
01:23:49,319 --> 01:23:53,479
One of them was a recent case in Massachusetts. He

1462
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:58,079
was I think a professor at MIT. He knew and

1463
01:23:58,159 --> 01:24:02,000
he was killed in his apartment in Brookline. What they

1464
01:24:02,039 --> 01:24:06,119
got by someone that he was in class with, you know,

1465
01:24:06,239 --> 01:24:07,720
seventeen years before.

1466
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 3: The guy who shut the people down Brown, Yeah, I know,

1467
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,640
this is different. This is okay, really wow.

1468
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:18,319
Speaker 6: This guy's from Portugal, I figured. But anyways, so that

1469
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:22,560
has no relationship. So the main thing now is that

1470
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:26,920
you know, you know, the retired general and uh, you

1471
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:30,199
know Monica, the two that they haven't been able to

1472
01:24:30,239 --> 01:24:33,079
figure out on their current thing. So we're waiting to

1473
01:24:33,119 --> 01:24:35,239
hear more. And like I said, the problem is there's

1474
01:24:35,279 --> 01:24:38,640
so much noise out here now with everything going on.

1475
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:43,359
We're not getting a lot of attention with these stories,

1476
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:47,359
and at least they're not reporting right now things to us.

1477
01:24:47,399 --> 01:24:49,000
So we're just waiting to see what happens.

1478
01:24:49,039 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, sure, it is really curious what.

1479
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 4: Level of law enforcement is this investigation under an FBI?

1480
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,520
Thing is a government doesn't say.

1481
01:24:58,399 --> 01:25:01,159
Speaker 6: But of course I'm sure it's one of the federal

1482
01:25:01,199 --> 01:25:06,239
go oh yeah, so you know so I'm sure, yes,

1483
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,840
Susan go club.

1484
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:14,159
Speaker 7: When you mentioned the Apple watch was found in the mailbox,

1485
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:19,439
was that like recently or you know, immediately after that

1486
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:22,479
person when missing at what time frame you know what

1487
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:24,319
I mean? Did it just appear months later?

1488
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 6: What it says here is he went missing in New

1489
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:32,119
Mexico after leaving his home. Oh no, I'm sorry. That

1490
01:25:32,159 --> 01:25:34,840
was the other guy in the mailbox. This one is

1491
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,039
It looks like he was a scientist in Massachusetts. He

1492
01:25:39,159 --> 01:25:42,800
disappeared after leaving his home at night with his Apple

1493
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:46,319
watch was found in his mailbox. It sounds to me

1494
01:25:46,399 --> 01:25:50,119
as though they probably found that, you know, right after

1495
01:25:50,159 --> 01:25:55,800
that he might have put it. Yeah, someone might have

1496
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:56,239
found it.

1497
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, put it in new was his and put it

1498
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:00,439
in that. I don't want to break the up, but

1499
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:02,960
this is cat looking at me, and I'm.

1500
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 4: Just like, imagine for half an hour look at this.

1501
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:08,520
It's amazing.

1502
01:26:09,279 --> 01:26:17,159
Speaker 6: Excuse me is looking at me? And what I have

1503
01:26:17,239 --> 01:26:17,600
to say?

1504
01:26:19,239 --> 01:26:22,359
Speaker 3: Don't make sorry? Cat?

1505
01:26:22,399 --> 01:26:24,159
Speaker 4: I think so. I think you're right this time. Club,

1506
01:26:24,359 --> 01:26:25,760
he's paying attention to you.

1507
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,399
Speaker 6: Well, the cat might know something now that we don't know.

1508
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, he looks like he does.

1509
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,239
Speaker 6: And hopefully Susan will have a talk with that kit.

1510
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:36,079
Speaker 13: Is there an image on the kitty.

1511
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 3: Cat for images?

1512
01:26:39,119 --> 01:26:42,319
Speaker 4: Please Susan Chick for an image in the cat box.

1513
01:26:45,119 --> 01:26:47,359
That would be a best couple of signs have.

1514
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,640
Speaker 13: Come full cycle from copies.

1515
01:26:51,279 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 3: Right, you want to go doing materials sub sub the

1516
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:07,319
cat will think what thank you? Club? Appreciate? Wow? Okay,

1517
01:27:07,399 --> 01:27:10,600
I'll give you up. Question Yes, please go ahead.

1518
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 10: I thought it was kind of odd that with McCaslin.

1519
01:27:14,079 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 11: The case that every one I read myself was that

1520
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:20,920
he had talked to a repairman at ten o'clock in

1521
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,319
the morning, and it was I think the last person

1522
01:27:23,359 --> 01:27:25,800
that he actually talked to. But I tried to find

1523
01:27:26,119 --> 01:27:30,560
anybody or anywhere that had any information about the repair

1524
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:33,479
man's words and what he actually said to him or anything,

1525
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,159
but there was nothing I could find on that repair man.

1526
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:41,199
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, Kim, it seems like this might be

1527
01:27:41,279 --> 01:27:45,880
a personal matter. Yeah, and so it sounds like they're

1528
01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:49,840
trying to keep it down as far as what's going on.

1529
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:52,239
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the repairman would have said that would be

1530
01:27:52,279 --> 01:27:55,319
there between eight and twelve and one of them. Yeah,

1531
01:27:55,319 --> 01:28:00,479
that's what they always said. Yeah, I mean so. But

1532
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:03,279
but if he was like having appointments meeting people and

1533
01:28:03,319 --> 01:28:06,399
stuff like that, that's not the day you go for

1534
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:09,199
that long walk, you know what I mean, It doesn't.

1535
01:28:09,239 --> 01:28:12,239
Speaker 6: I saw nothing that said he missed appointments. I've I

1536
01:28:12,359 --> 01:28:16,199
looked at everything about his disappearance and I couldn't find

1537
01:28:16,239 --> 01:28:19,039
him and said that, you know, he skipped all appointments

1538
01:28:19,079 --> 01:28:20,199
of the day he was retired.

1539
01:28:20,239 --> 01:28:22,560
Speaker 5: He just retired. Maybe it was just a guy trying

1540
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:24,159
to sell him a home warranty or something.

1541
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:25,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so.

1542
01:28:26,159 --> 01:28:31,720
Speaker 6: I hopefully it's it's something, you know, other than you know,

1543
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:33,359
a health issue that caused him.

1544
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,600
Speaker 9: Well, the question I have about him is if they

1545
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:41,560
think he intended to you know, harm himself, or like

1546
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,159
you said, go walk off a cliff or something.

1547
01:28:44,359 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 6: Yes, wife told me that yesterday.

1548
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 4: Take a long walk off a short pier.

1549
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:56,119
Speaker 9: You can only walk so far before you're not noticed.

1550
01:28:56,159 --> 01:28:58,239
And within a month, you would think they would have

1551
01:28:58,279 --> 01:28:59,520
found his remains.

1552
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:04,560
Speaker 6: Right where he fell is an area I guess a

1553
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:08,720
very high cliffs. So it's not like he fell if

1554
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,199
he did fall off a cliff, it's not like that

1555
01:29:11,399 --> 01:29:13,640
area had, you know, a twenty foot cliff. I guess

1556
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:17,960
they had some. Really, there's really some steep mountainous areas there.

1557
01:29:18,199 --> 01:29:21,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, they look at the bottom, they look, they look

1558
01:29:21,239 --> 01:29:21,800
at the bottom.

1559
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:25,600
Speaker 6: It looked, but apparently this is a bit. This isn't

1560
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:28,000
like you know, walking around the block.

1561
01:29:28,119 --> 01:29:28,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1562
01:29:28,359 --> 01:29:32,399
Speaker 10: Yeah, he took his He took his thirty eight revolver

1563
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:32,840
with him.

1564
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 3: So oh oh wow, I didn't read that. I didn't.

1565
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:38,239
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, he took a thirty eight revolver with him

1566
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:40,479
a club.

1567
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:44,520
Speaker 11: He left a personal device. Now, when they said personal device,

1568
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:46,119
I was kind of thinking that maybe it was a

1569
01:29:46,119 --> 01:29:50,000
heart monitor or maybe like something an insulin pumper.

1570
01:29:50,359 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 6: Well, he has has health issues or that. Yeah, and

1571
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:56,800
the only personal device that I had read about is

1572
01:29:56,840 --> 01:30:00,159
an iPhone.

1573
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:03,199
Speaker 3: If the revolve, So that kind of kind of points

1574
01:30:03,199 --> 01:30:06,159
to what direction you're thinking, Wow, that is weird.

1575
01:30:06,199 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 6: Though, I'm sure we'll hear more about it, right but

1576
01:30:10,319 --> 01:30:12,239
you know, I'm sure they're trying to keep this quiet

1577
01:30:12,319 --> 01:30:12,680
right now.

1578
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:17,560
Speaker 11: Well, out there they found a sweater about a mile

1579
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:19,960
and a quarter away from his house right now. When

1580
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:21,600
I first read it too, it was a sweater, but

1581
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:23,560
then later I read a report that said no, it

1582
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:27,520
was actually an air force like sweatshirts right exactly.

1583
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:31,640
Speaker 3: It was not his, they said, not his? Yeah, odd,

1584
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:34,399
like the honest thing. Not to get into this because

1585
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:37,640
we had a lease soon. But with the woman who's

1586
01:30:38,039 --> 01:30:44,159
the newscats whose mother disappeared, right, yes, So they said

1587
01:30:44,199 --> 01:30:46,359
they found a glove, I mean earlier and they said

1588
01:30:46,359 --> 01:30:48,079
it finally love. Then the guy came out and said,

1589
01:30:48,079 --> 01:30:51,560
we found eight gloves within half a mile this place.

1590
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:56,479
Because gloves blow off tracks you know, people leave losing gloves,

1591
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:59,800
you know, eight gloves that they had a test and

1592
01:31:00,159 --> 01:31:01,880
of them. You know, he came close to this. So

1593
01:31:02,199 --> 01:31:06,600
you're finding stuff only if you're looking for it. You know.

1594
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,159
Oh wow, there's an if A shirt. It must belong

1595
01:31:09,279 --> 01:31:13,039
to this guy, not necessarily, you know. Also, yeah, it's weird.

1596
01:31:13,239 --> 01:31:15,520
It's weird. Ad Mary, the guy.

1597
01:31:15,319 --> 01:31:20,319
Speaker 8: In Massachusetts, from what I understand, they they think that

1598
01:31:20,399 --> 01:31:24,439
body they found in the the lake is his because

1599
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:28,640
he they think he walked into the water. Yeah, and

1600
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:30,359
he might not have been under into his right mind.

1601
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,319
And then we had a terrible winter in Massachusetts.

1602
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:36,079
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, for sure.

1603
01:31:36,119 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 6: It seems like there's an explanation for many of these things.

1604
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep. Still very odd.

1605
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:44,560
Speaker 8: It's very odd. I wonder if the burden of carrying

1606
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:47,600
all these secrets is also not helping well.

1607
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:49,520
Speaker 3: That yeah, well that's happened in the past. You know,

1608
01:31:50,079 --> 01:31:53,279
this guy named fire Stall, who was the first Secretary

1609
01:31:53,319 --> 01:31:57,079
of Defense in this country after World War Two, was

1610
01:31:57,119 --> 01:31:59,880
burdened with like lots and lots of things. He wound

1611
01:32:00,039 --> 01:32:03,079
up in Walter Reid Hospital on the seventeenth floor, and

1612
01:32:03,119 --> 01:32:04,800
as soon as they chained him from his bed. He

1613
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:07,479
went right out the window, you know, and people's had

1614
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:10,840
all kinds of conspiracy theories about this. He knew about

1615
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:13,159
UFOs and so this guy had the weight of the

1616
01:32:13,159 --> 01:32:15,680
world on his shoulders. Believe me. After World War Two,

1617
01:32:16,199 --> 01:32:19,159
suddenly we were in charge. We have you know, Newsley Balms,

1618
01:32:19,239 --> 01:32:21,640
and there's too much for the guy. And that's it,

1619
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:24,000
you know, I mean a lot of it just gets

1620
01:32:24,039 --> 01:32:25,520
you imagine what it's like.

1621
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,199
Speaker 6: So you know what they say, ignorance is bliss.

1622
01:32:28,239 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you ain't kidding, man, that's I have that tattoo.

1623
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:35,720
Let's clasp the club. Yeah, the thing is in the place.

1624
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:38,800
I can't read it. Anyway, said, I'm going to give

1625
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:41,880
you the last the last word. How was the meal?

1626
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 13: Oh, this is what I get here. They have the

1627
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:46,399
best clam chowder I've ever had.

1628
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:48,399
Speaker 14: I don't even like clam chowder, and I had it once,

1629
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:50,760
I said, And the best chicken fingers.

1630
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:54,039
Speaker 3: Chicken fingers at a seafood restaurant. Yea is They're really really.

1631
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,640
Speaker 13: Good, really excellent, highly recommended.

1632
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:59,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yah, it's really good. So anyway, well what a gang.

1633
01:32:59,359 --> 01:33:02,199
So anyway, let's say good night to everybody. Okay, good

1634
01:33:02,239 --> 01:33:04,399
night already I think so, it's we're two and a

1635
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:08,920
half hours right, check that right, so twenty four on

1636
01:33:09,039 --> 01:33:11,880
top of you, right, Cynthia will say good night to

1637
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:14,920
you first. Okay, okay, okay, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 13: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: And what's the name of the new album.

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Speaker 14: The new album is called More Is Never Enough. On

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Cynthia Smith Music and art dot com.

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Speaker 3: This is you and Chris correct thirteen years a record

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producing our house.

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Speaker 4: Cynthia Smith Music and art dot Com.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, li'sten to it. It's I'm sure it

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was a lot of fun to make that much. I know, right,

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it's therapy. It's literally my therapy. Very cool, and that

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dad is rightly really true. They could take someone singing

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into a phone.

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Speaker 14: We've done it well nowadays it's much easier, right you know. Yeah,

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I mean that's actually what happened the first time I

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You helped me find Bristol stud Remember they said, give

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me a song to bring in and Chris put it

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to music and it made me cry.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you got to hit single out of this too, right,

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So he heard it he heard a single like that

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Tom Petty song with didn't hear a single all yeah

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band with you too? Sorry the backing band, Chris.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, but we do bring in studio musicians.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, that's the week we walked tells

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probably in there.

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Speaker 3: Like we We'll be sitting there, you know, stuff that

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I've done in there, and we need like a cello

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player in this. They pick up the phone and there's

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a cello player there like ten minutes later.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's it's great in a way. It's yeah,

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it really is. So Bristol Studios highly recommended and affordable too.

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They're not insane even they do a lot of wife

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in Disney and.

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Speaker 14: Oh yeah yeah, the Boston pops and Hollywood. They they've

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done Hollywood, but very down to earth, very approachable.

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Speaker 13: They're in Boston. Ye, so they they work on high

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level stuff and they.

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Speaker 14: Work on you know stuff like yeah, little people like us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And one last thing, so they were across the

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street from Berkeley, which was really kind of weird, that

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funky building, right.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Then they moved down the street and they took over

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an old bank. I've told you this before. And one

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of the studios is in the vaulved I mean the vaults,

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and it's just nuts. And that's that they had the

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Harvard Whippols in there and all that kind of stuff.

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It's really quite a place. It's kind of cool. What's

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the studio Austin? Don't have to get a tour down there?

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Can I call up and get a tour? Yeah? Sure,

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they'd love to give you a tour. I haven't been

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down there since I've done everything on Zooms Studio when

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they're still building it not complete. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Anyways,

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Thank you, Cynthia, thank you. I appreciate that. Uh, we're

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going to say good night to Mary. Mary. Thank you, Mary,

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thank you.

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Speaker 8: Thank you everyone. It was great to be here as usual.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and we'll forget about the Super Bowl next years

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double as the March madness. Nothing nothing coming through.

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Speaker 8: Save your money right now, it's.

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Speaker 3: Too late for that. Thank you, very very appreciate it. Kim,

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thank you, Kim, Kim Shay.

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Speaker 10: Thank you. It's an awesome night. I've learned a whole

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bunch of nights.

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Speaker 3: I can see him in like a man's perfume, man,

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a man's aroma, and yeah for the mature man, stinky okay, yeah, okay,

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with a little exclamation bing on, Thank you, Kim. We

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appreciate it. Thank you well, Brandy, Thank you very much, Brandy.

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Just how to get Oliver is?

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Speaker 9: Everybody's got a harsh Another great night hanging out with

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you guys.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. We appreciate it with you. I

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love you too, Susan, Kay, thank you, thank you. Can

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I can't go to bed or eat something now or

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do what he does best.

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Speaker 7: He's tired now. Look, I'm tired of staring at you

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on the screen. About ten minutes in the Brandy story,

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she was.

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Speaker 4: Very did you say, Brandy?

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01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:19,239
Speaker 3: Now we know I thought it was me.

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Speaker 4: All right, there's a reaction there. You're welcome, Susan. Love

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to have you all the time.

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Speaker 3: Club, Thank you, Club, Thank you, club, you love you.

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I know what that means. Yeah, thank you club, Thank you. Well.

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Thanks el. Glad to be here. You want to go

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01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:48,279
shat the cars now or we might need to get

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away tonight at one one. Thank you as always.

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Speaker 4: You're welcome, glad to be here, happy to be anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Really, let me give the pluge okay, well we know

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01:37:58,399 --> 01:38:01,159
the plugs. The plagues are almost Our troops is an

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organization that we've talked about for many, many years. There

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are people who build houses especially adapted for our veterans

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who've been wounded in action after nine to eleven. That's

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the Iraq War, the Fgian war, and I'm sure this

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latest war will have like casualties from that. And what

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they do is they build these homes specifically adapted to

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their needs. Okay, so low account of space, not a

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lot of stairs, things like that. And when they've done

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with them, they rip up the mortgage, They give them

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the keys. It's their house forever. They don't have to

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01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:33,159
worry about that mortgage payment hanging over their head every month.

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They well kind of rejoin society. I hate that phrase,

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but that's what happens. These are people who give a

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lot to us. We should give a lot to them,

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almost our troops. Please google them, see what they're about.

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The good news is that they've done about last time

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I talked to them, I think they built one hundred

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and seventy five of these houses. You know, when I

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01:38:50,239 --> 01:38:51,920
went to one of them down to mess a poet,

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01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:55,760
excuse me, and it was beautiful. Okay. The problem is

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01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:59,479
that waiting list is over a thousand. Okay, So Holmestra

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troopless trying to you know, help them out. And then

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I hate to bring down the show, but this happened

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this week and I have to mention it. Okay, there's

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a guy named Robert Mueller. We know him because you're

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He was the head of the FBI, and he was

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the guy who who investigated whether Trump's first campaign was

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involved with the Russians or not. He found they were,

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but not enough to prosecute him. Okay, so that didn't happen.

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He basically found him not responsible. Robert Mueller was a

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was a marine. First, he went to Princeton, went to

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01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:35,000
Princeton get a degree, and then he went to Vietnam.

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Who does that, I mean, but he does. He did.

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01:39:38,319 --> 01:39:41,760
He went to Vietnam. He got a bronze star in Vietnam, which,

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01:39:42,119 --> 01:39:44,439
if you know about bron styles, that's the next to

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01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:47,079
the Medal of Honor. It's very high to get any

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01:39:47,159 --> 01:39:51,199
of these things in a purple heart. Went on to

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join the government, became the FBI director, was there for years.

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He became the FBI director a week before nine to eleven.

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You imagine that all of a sudden, now he has

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nine to eleven, and you know, and he was a

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very capable guy. And he died and Trump said I'm

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glad he's dead, okay. And we talked about Jesus a

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lot tonight. I think Jesus was outstanding human being, you know,

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for whatever he was. He would never say that, Okay.

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01:40:21,079 --> 01:40:24,319
So if these people who are religious who follow Trump,

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think to yourself, would Jesus have said that?

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Speaker 4: No way.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, this is Max for the entire year. He's saying

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to you, hear us. Next time, be safe, be happy,

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and bye bye.