Speaker 1: This is not.
Speaker 2: Dude, expect to be and.
Speaker 1: Tell nine.
Speaker 2: It's time straight from the.
Speaker 3: Cause you'll find.
Speaker 2: No peace.
Speaker 3: Side courtast.
Speaker 2: Hey there are and Devians, Junior Adventures and friends. Welcome
to Well, unfortunately it's not the next episode of the
Dicey Bastards. This is an interlude. Well, we're gonna answer
your questions. Uh, bad news. England's on fire, Steve couldn't
make it, Texas is on fire, Drew's like running for
his life, and Bob, Bob just walking the earth like
he came from kung Fu. And so you've got only
a few of us left. So who do I have
with me? Let's start with Let's start with the Let's
start with Bob number two, Ricky Guatemala.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stop acknowledging.
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, no, you're not. I almost when I mailed
you at the end of the day, I almost put
Ricky Guatemala on the tidle, like, no, this is mail fraud.
Speaker 1: I got that's that's that's one of those. That's one
of the things. And then you'll be questioning why it
never reaches me here?
Speaker 2: How are you, sir?
Speaker 1: Ah? Honest, honestly, I'm just barely awake. So I was
telling the Gibbe before we hopped, and I was like,
I'd fallen asleep on my couch watching anime and like,
fortunately I had, I said a reminder of my phone.
So I waked up, woke up, and I'm like, God,
let me work my computer. So so apparently you know,
I can't give you an introduction to myself right now
because I barely know who I am.
Speaker 2: I right, So.
Speaker 3: We're recording this the day after Halloween, and I know
that the Halloween is a huge holiday.
Speaker 2: Who is that speaking to us, by the way.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm Emily Kaplin, Im Kaplin. I play Claudia
normally on maybe I'll play Claudia this evening. Who knows.
Speaker 2: That'd be great. But okay, you're saying, because it's day
after Halloween is all Saints Day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. Well, no, I know that Rick and
his family sometimes or they used to do like a
huge haunted house and it's a really big thing with
their household. And I was wondering if you were hang
like Halloween hungover.
Speaker 1: I am a little Halloween hung but not because of that. Like, uh,
this year, it was really hard to get into it,
probably probably because well, it's an election year, it's a
little stressful, all sorts of shit. But I mean we
we decorated outside, and I was outside for the entirety
of like my town does trick treating from three to
eight and then we do curfew, So I was out
there for the entire five hours waiting for people, which
mostly meant I was just sitting out there with my
thumb up my ass because we don't get a lot
of traffic. And then then when when we're done, we
came inside. I came inside and my wife and I
would do what's called a dumb supper, and that is
not that is not dumb as in, we're fucking morons.
It's kind of a pagan thing where like, you know,
you have a why you have a silent dinner by
candle light as kind of a reflection of those who
have who have passed on. Okay, and we do we
do that one of those every every Halloween. After your
training is done, we usually do a charcuterie board, which
is really fucking awesome. And yeah, I think I think
the whole thing, just like you know, ends up being
kind of like a little, uh, a little a little Halloween.
Speaker 3: Hungover Wow, that's kind of cool.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you all this because I my my
neighborhood where I live in. I live in this Like
you know, there's one all of a Sidey Street is
a big it's a big loop and like that. And
there are very few kids who live on this street. Okay,
and you know, we've been living here for almost thirteen
years now. There used to be a few, then they're gone.
It doesn't matter. But there's really no Halloween for like
the twelve years we've been living here, give or take.
Like once we had a kid come to the house.
Once I get a year three or four like and
also like I have a giant hill. My house is
upon a hill. I have like one hundred foot driveway.
It's like a thirty foot incline. It is, it's a hook.
So I'm sitting there last night, Like we do not
have front lights on, we do not have port lights on,
we do not have decorations. But I'm sitting there. I'm
on just relacing. I'm atually play a little bit of
video game and I hear kids giggling. I'm like that,
make sure that's not haunted. No, Like I said vow
to my wife, like I think we're gonna have ding
dong ding dong ding ding ding ding ding ding ding
ding ding ding ding dong, Like they wont kill the
kids kill them. And but you know, kids showed up
and like but there were parents. So on this street
I live on, there's all this new construction at the
other end, Like we're like twelve new houses. What up
in this one? It used to be just fields? So
all these we call them the new folk. The new
people got like all their kids together on like one
of those little like little leg isn't this fun? Will
put them on like a go cart and like or
a golf cart and take them from a house to house.
But like, no one, like all the houses around this loop,
we don't celebrate this shit. So every kid's going around
like trick or she were like, who the fuck are you?
Like you know, like.
Speaker 1: The fact that you live on top of the hill,
like you should make it like a prize, like like
you should have like like every year, just have three
full sized candy ours. And for those few kids who
are brave enough to climb that hill. And when they
show up and they like walk down and they're.
Speaker 2: Like, I have a full sized Snickers exactly.
Speaker 3: That's a cool idea. I was actually imagining you up
there with some kind of like sniper turret set up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I thought about once. I'm just getting up
there like a paintball gun and just like you know,
make them earn it. You know, you want to come
up here, you got to earn it, pal you know.
But uh no, unfortunately my wife will't let me do that.
And you know, so so.
Speaker 3: Wait, you weren't prepared for trick or treaders. Didn't you
have anything to actually give them?
Speaker 2: I had to give out my own personal stat because
I every house kid. Yeah no, no, like I go
to Walmart, be right, like October first there is going
to have those giant bags of the peanut butter pumpkin
recent peanut butter cups, like the the best ratio that
in the Christmas trees are the best peanut butter chocolate ratio.
And I grab a couple of my personal bags for myself.
These are my treats. So I had to give them that,
and I am not happy.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not happy. One year I'm going to
lose my fucking mind and just say and just you
know what I'm gonna do. I don't care how old
the kids are. Everybody gets condoms and you know something,
and I'm just gonna and I'm just gonna like you
to just wait to see the post on next door
of all the angry parents saying I had to have
a really uncomfortable like discussion with my six year old.
Speaker 2: Give him female condoms really mess him.
Speaker 3: Up, you know, just like I'd be all like, what
is this?
Speaker 2: People rings and I ud, yeah, I guess, I guess
I could curmudget. He goes like, this is Halloween. I'm
just not feeling it either, this this this particular one,
like we didn't celebrate, We don't do anything. My son's
also he's he turns thirteen in a couple of months,
so it's like he's out of that. He'd rather just
sit in the basement plan on discord with his friends,
you know, that's that's his thing. He didn't even know
people came to the house, So.
Speaker 1: Dad, don't I don't need to trick a treat. I've
discovered porn hub.
Speaker 2: No showers happened getting longer recently, So oh no.
Speaker 3: Well you said he was he was stinky before. I
hope he never listens to this. Maybe this is a
good thing.
Speaker 1: How about how about you? How was how was your Halloween?
Speaker 3: My Halloween was was extremely quiet at home. At work,
people went nuts, Like I'm in a rather large office
building and every row of cubicles had some kind of
huge festive thing going on. There were contests, there were
people in costumes. My my co worker, my counterpart was
is very pregnant and she was wearing an avocado shirt
and I was like, man, I have to wear a costume,
and I'm not into it this year. So U my
younger kid drew me a piece of toast on a
on a paper and I put it on a piece
of cardboard and just wore it like with a with
a rope on an my neck. And she was avocado
and I was toast.
Speaker 1: So my wife did a really easy a really easy
woman for her job. We had this we had we
did this big yard sale a while back, and we
were trying to give it. We have a bunch of
stuff to animals, including a bunch of beanie babies and stuff.
So she went out and she just found all of
these stuffed cats we have and just stuffed them in
her pockets. And the She's like, yeah, okay, I'm a
crazy cat lady.
Speaker 2: I swung by the grocery sort of pick up everybody's
the whole family's, various medicines and things like that. I'm
the house dad and I'm standing in the line in
the pharmacy and the first thing I noticed, like, is
that lady wearing black fers? What the fuck is going on?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, she wasn't. She was a she was like
a mad Max road Warrior, but she the goggles were
on her forehead, but from a distance she had smeared
all the dirt on her face. But when I was
walking up to the pharmacy and I'm like, oh no, oh, okay, no, no, no, no, no, okay, okay,
crisis averted, Okay, not a problem. But the lady next
to her, I mean, the lady work on the counter.
She was a cowgirl and like that, and I'm like,
that's cool. But the lady behind her, like she's just
wearing this weird outfit that's kind of like turquoise and
yellow and this hat on like that, and she's wearing
these fake obviously like like this wig and like that,
Like what then when she steps back from the counter,
says Australia like, oh, you're the chick. You're the break
dancing girl from the Olympics. Okay, well, then she's like
she poses and she starts doing that.
Speaker 1: Like, uh so, note to sell if you if you
dress up as Lord umungous, you're gonna give me calling
you a racist.
Speaker 2: If you stood there like zar Dos with your with
your package out that Okay, that's one thing. But no,
it was one of those like you know, like like
dirt like dweller kind of thing, like the goggles on
the foreta and a lot of just dirt around the
eyes in the face. And I realized that's what it was.
But I'm like, first time, I'm like, oh my god,
I think we went oh no, but it wasn't. It wasn't.
Speaker 3: So what would you have done?
Speaker 2: I I I don't know, honestly. Here's the thing, like,
I you know, the town, Okay, I might even going
to go onto that. The town I live in is
a little on the uh I have seen it here
when we first moved here. Uh So at one Christmas
and one Halloween and the wife and I like, we
want the restaurant. It was a Halloween thing, like we
didn't dress up. We just want to those one restaurant
in this new town we moved to and like it's
a little redneck, you kind of issue of a town,
you know, and like, oh no, we just ever went
back to that restaurant, Like okay, Like that's it.
Speaker 1: It's like can you imagine that, Like like just the
power of something like that, like you being a pharmacist
and deciding't dress up as the most offensive fucking thing
you can imagine, and then as people come in, you
just you're basically like if you say anything, you don't
get your mids and you die.
Speaker 2: You want to continue to be you know, you know,
get your sole off today. You know, yeah, no longer diabetes.
Speaker 1: Now when you get home, explain to your wife whether
there's no viagar with her.
Speaker 2: No, it's called being around fifty. You're like, ah, anyway,
we got some questions. Do you all want to answer
some questions from the folks from the good people on
the discord?
Speaker 3: Yes, I do.
Speaker 1: I want to.
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of the way, let's get to the first question from
Zach of All Trades. It's common knowledge at grcer and
stand we're originally backup characters from the early days of
the podcast, but now that they are currently in used,
do you all have any other back of characters in
case of a TPK that's total party kill for you. None,
uh dungeons drag a playing nerds.
Speaker 3: No, you don't really you.
Speaker 1: Know, something if if if Moog dies, I will come
up with something. But I prefer to kind of kind
of come up with things like I don't. It's rare
for me to have a backup character where I'm like,
I'm just because here's the thing. If I have a
backup character, chances are there's a reason I want. I
want to like play that backup character. And if I
if I want to play that backup character or not,
I will find a way for move to die. I
will self I will self sabotage. So I don't really
like to do that, like you know, I'd like to
kind of more come up with them on the fly.
Because no, because one of two things, like I said,
like you know, I like the concept of shit happens
and then it forces me to get creative or you know,
like I said, I I don't want that that anticipation
of either I want to play this character and either
knowing that I'm going to self sabotage or I'm not
going to get a chance to play this character. So yeah,
I don't. I don't really come up with backup characters.
Speaker 3: That's totally interesting. And also I think you have to
let your DM know if you actually do want to
die and start, because I tried a couple of times
to kill Claudia with with Rachel as my dam and
she keept bringing me back, and I'm like, but but okay.
Speaker 1: Never mind, I'll just I'll just say right here, since
we are on a podcast, you know, watch it like
you know, we somebody will edit this part, but no,
I'll be perfect. I am always been a fan of
going where the dice rolls. So if the dice ever
roll against Moog in such a way, oh well yeah.
Speaker 2: I always have a character whenever I'm playing in a
regular game. Obviously I'm running this one, but whenever I'm
playing in a regular game, I usually have an idea
of something just in case. But you know, I like
to just be in the moment, you know, I like
to when I'm playing, I like to be in the moment.
And my next level is completely designed around what did
I learn in the game. So if this character like
all of a sudden, like I you know, I plan
on them being the fifth level this way, in tenth
level that way. No, no, no, no, I'm like, when I'm
level up, what did I learn? What am I missing?
What could I do to help? And that's when I
pick my level up. Sometimes I'm multi class. Sometimes I'll
pick a skill or a certain thing or what what
am I missing up? Or what is the group not
having that we could help you?
Speaker 1: You are much more thoughtful than I am.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I mean there's always gonna be a
level of person like you now. Granted, when I play
my more evil characters and more selfish characters, how else
can I manipulate the group? How else can I like
pretend to be their friend? How else can I like
still get what I want? You know, I was running
this one warlock that, like the one character wanted magic,
so I was working with my patron to like get
him magic by killing off other people and sewing their
body parts onto this this barbarian and slowly changing them
over time, you know, Like it's it I like to
I like the game to tell me the story, like
I I. I am evolving as the game evolves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, rix Rick seems to be that opposite. You are
so and it's admirable. You are so true to your characters,
like Silas. You will play Silas as Silas to the
end or or moved to which I really admire. I'm
more like, yeah, i'll do this, I'll do that, I'll
figure out what this does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know something, I appreciate that chaotic element
to Claudia.
Speaker 2: In fact, oh we all do.
Speaker 1: Like I was, I was, I was telling gimmee. You know,
I don't think it was it was you were on yet,
but I was like, I was like, I'm pretty sure
that in game, Moog is kind of terrified of Claudia.
Speaker 2: Now, we talked about that, like everybody's a little afraid
of Claudia because it's like they've just seen things that
like they just the the randomness that can like they're
one minute sweet one minute, you know, choke a bear
to death, you know, one minute like how's everybody doing?
Next minute skin that bear? You know, but it's not.
It's but the problem is that it's like it's never
like it's not some agro I watched too much mm
A look at me, tough guy kind of move. It's this.
I don't even think about skinning this bear in a
bed of other people.
Speaker 1: This is full on like Dexter Ship, right.
Speaker 2: Even Dexter was methodical. No, this is I'm like just
skinning an animal and it's completely normal.
Speaker 1: Except here's the thing. She wasn't skinning an animal. Kuality
time was a person who had been transformed. It was
basically she's wearing a guy's face on her own. She's
she's going full on Hannibal Lecter here, except there's no
there's no eat, there's there's no evil like you know,
like you know, overacting, you know, behind it. It's all
just like you know, just kind of like go with
the flow, which kind of makes it that much more terrify.
Speaker 2: Was I want to hug them, you know, like them,
and then she just kept gripping and it like like goes.
I'm like, okay, she killed him, you know suff And
someone had reached out and asked me, like, hey, did
did you plan on that guy like that? Just in
time being like one of like you know, uh uh
uh stands like bastard children, like I had planned on
it until Drew showed up with Quality time and kind
of like just hop right in there, like.
Speaker 1: Like the most terrifying place to be in a game
world with Claudia is to be Clodia's child at death time.
Speaker 2: So so folks who haven't watched those episodes and like,
I mean, I know there are some people out there
who listen to this and like, Okay, I haven't got
to the Dicey Bastards yet, and because I'm still going
through the backlock of the old games or I'm doing
the James or the UFC or the other games like that,
and I appreciate that, but please stop joining this game.
But two, I've also had people say like, oh, I
know there was that one like Murder Brawl, but I
didn't watch that episode. You should have. You need to
go back and watch that episode like that. I know
it's three hours of fighting, but it is some of
the best comedic three hours of fighting because Emily was
the first one to discover I put dynamite on the
map for a reason, and Emily blew people the fuck up.
And you really need to see this because like she
killed characters like god, I can't even do it justice.
Just watch it. Just go back and watch the Murder
Brawl three part.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The funny part is I don't even I don't
really try to do things like this.
Speaker 2: You're a chaos goblin.
Speaker 3: It just happens.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I do have some backup characters, though, I have one
that I but they're ones that I played in in
like private games, you know, sure, not not in public.
One of them is would you who is a small
She's a cleric, but she's extremely grouchy, as most clerics are,
I guess. And she's a what did she would would
know more or something like that?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: And her last name is leave me alone? Would you
leave me alone? Yeah? He's one of my favorites.
Speaker 2: So do you want Claudia to die? Or something? Is
just like is this? Is this a cry for help?
Is this? Would you want to take this? Take this?
Speaker 3: No? No, She's always waiting in the wings. She's patient.
Speaker 1: Like years back, I think it was. I think it
was in my second billbook, Scary Dead Things. I need
to character name for one of Bill's past characters, and
I just came up with an alchemist named Professor Blastingis. Okay,
And a couple of years after that, I needed a
new character because my character gotten killed in the game,
and I was like, why not? Yeah, and holy shit,
he turned out to be so much fun to play.
Speaker 2: When I get ideas for characters, sometimes I know I'm
never gonna get a chance to play them, so I
just make them NPCs, you know, like like the character
when you guys met Trudy good Night, Like I always
love like there's an old there's an old old old
uh one of those brothers grim stories about a woman
named mother Trudy. And she was like, it's it's just
as little one of these like short like you know,
one page short short fairy tales. But the concept of
this this old woman who is strong as shit, who
has some dark dealings and some magics. I would like.
I like this idea of like this fifty year old
woman who's seen some shit and she's a fighter. She's
got a little bit of magic, and she's so when
I craft her to the sword, like now she's just
tending bar and it's like I love this and like
and she's just a bare knuckle brawler, so we you know,
Trudy good Night, Like I want to write a book
about her. That's how much I love this, this idea
of this like this bare knuckle broad who's scene shit.
Speaker 3: You know, like, well that's awesome. I would read it. Yeah,
as a fifty year old, fifty plus year old woman who.
Speaker 2: Who has seen the thing is like I am currently
working on a new project. I always call it my
secret project. I haven't really talked much about it, but
there is a mother Trudy type character who will be
eventually know it's Trudy good Night in that she's not
the main character, but she will be in it. So yeah,
all right, you want to go on to the next question. Sure, yeah, sure,
he says in the radio voice. All right, if your
character got a tattoo, what would it be? And I
think we can get some locations for some Seldrianna wants
to know this. So if your character got a tattoo,
what would it be and where would you put it?
Speaker 1: So moog one would get die elf die, except if
you wandered into towns where like you know that maybe
that wasn't too friendly. He'd press it off his German
and no, no ins indeed d D.
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask if it was like on his knuckles,
but he doesn't have that many knuckles right now.
Speaker 2: No, Like it's die and die on his knuckles, but
it's like it's go on his chest, his elf, so
it's like die you know.
Speaker 3: Oh, I like that.
Speaker 1: He'll get a tattooed on his like warhammer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, is that you miss him.
Speaker 2: On a chilele there. What about Will Claudia ever get
a tattoo?
Speaker 4: Wait?
Speaker 3: Did didn't they? H? Somebody burnt tattoos into us? Didn't
they do?
Speaker 2: Have you do have one? Technically you all do you
have a magic tattoo that but father braind But no,
would you willingly, you know, sit down and get some
ink done?
Speaker 3: Or would Claudia Yeah, I'm one hundred percent sure she
would just like randomly one day just like like, oh,
go ahead, tattoo this, you know, I don't know heck
symbol on?
Speaker 2: Would you would you get like a small like you know,
like you know, eat prey love or like a butterfly
in the lower back and you just go like the
first one from like your forehead down to your knee,
just like the rock like or Jason Momoa like tattoo
like from like just just because just show up one
day and act like it's totally normal.
Speaker 3: Like she she would be the person who would get
like a four forehead tattoo to like on on a
dare or to like fulfill a quest or you know,
something weird like that. Maybe a neck tattoo.
Speaker 1: Yesh, it'd be like abissle ink from like you know,
from from like, you know, from the nine ninety ninth Layer.
Speaker 2: See, now that's some things like so do people in
like the D and D world like get tattoos, like
in other languages, like it means like strong and abistle,
or it means mysterious in Sylvan you know. And then
some elf comes along it's like, no, it means you know, freak,
you know, or something like.
Speaker 3: That, Yeah, fried squirrel or something exactly.
Speaker 2: Also, would Emily be mad if I made an NBC?
Would you just show up and like hi and walk
off camera just just a Kristy w offs No.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, I think that would be funny.
Speaker 2: All right, let's see, uh Pallat and Steve see any
good anim lately.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all right, So Netflix, and I think Crunchy
role as well. They have they have a remake of
Rand Randma one half, and I'm really enjoying that. That's
probably that's probably, like, you know, been my favorite thing
to like watch for the last the last couple of weeks,
because the last couple of weeks have been just a
dearth of really shitty anime where I start an episode
and I'm just like nope, nope, nope, nope, and I
apologize to the dragon Ball fans out there. I'm a
big dragon Ball you know fan myself, but I can't
get into the dragon Ball Dima. I just have zero
interest in watching the cute, the cutes the adventures of
like them turned into kids. I just don't give a ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're an anime fan, well off and on. I
think the last thing I watched was delicious, and.
Speaker 2: But I tried that, I couldn't get into it.
Speaker 3: It's it's pretty repetitive, like they go they go fight stuff,
they eat it, They fight stuff, they eat it. Yeah.
So but I was watching with my kids, so that's a.
Speaker 2: Different Yeah, and that's fair. Like I watched some of
that with my kid. My kid, and he's going through
his various anime phases and like he's currently going back
to watch all of JoJo's bizarre adventure yep, and I
can't follow him. This is I can't. I can't follow
him on this path because when it starts off as
a Vapire Hunters, I was like, yeah, I was kind
of into it with it, but then when it's just
getting weirder and weirder, and every every time he tries
to tell me about an episode of so it reads
like a fever dream. You ever had that annoying thing
where a friend tries to tell you about a dream
You were in it, but you weren't in it, but
you were there, but you weren't there, but it was you,
but you were a chicken, but you didn't know you
were chicken. But like, shut the fuck up, like this
is important to no one but you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it managed three or four seasons of
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure bros, just like, yeah.
Speaker 2: Check it out. And being told that by a near
thirteen year old now is trying to recount these these
adventures to me is like I I like, you have
seven minutes and I'm gonna cut you off, so go. Yeah.
I anime. I have love hate with anime because there's
some stuff I love, stuff I grew up with and
I had a big break and coming back like obviously
I'm wearing an anime T shirt now because like, like
this one was the Attack on Titan. This was such
an amazing show that was like it wasn't just good,
it was like masterclass of storytelling because every time you
think you know what's going on, one more layers peeled
back and Onemar's layers peeled back and like who you
think are good or now evil? Or who thought were
either now good? Or is it? You know?
Speaker 1: And it's the entire looking to political season, and that
it started to suck.
Speaker 2: I see, But that's I even gotten to that because
I was I was cool and it was just people
fighting giant monsters. I was very much into that. Great.
But then once you got into the understanding of the
why and the and the lore behind it, and it
got bigger and bigger, and the plight of Aaron Yaeger
and what he became towards the end like no man
I was in. I was start to finish, baby, I was.
It had me hooked so much so that even when
it ran out of English. Yes I'm in English, I listen,
I'm a I'm a I'm a dub watcher and come
at me weeds, dare you? But I actually liked it
so much that I started watching it was with the
subtitles because I needed to know how the story went.
Speaker 1: Now you know something, my wife is purist, but like
you know something, I like turning on like yeah, the
English dubs, especially if I see like Chris Saba is
like you know, like you know, voice and something. I'm
all in.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it depends on the anime I think. Yeah,
some of them are pretty complex, and I want to
read the subtitles and hear that the actual Japanese inflection,
even though I understand, well, I understand, like.
Speaker 2: Well see, even when I'm listening to this to the English,
I'm still reading the subtitles because I'm that guy who's yeah, well.
Speaker 3: Me too, everything, Okay, I'll admit it. Yeah, but a
question for Paladin Steve who when he listens to this,
were you a fan of East Infection, the anime run
that Steve Bevan and I did, and should we resurrect
that in some form?
Speaker 2: So there, Well what was that? So I might that
was before my time?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we we watched the entire anime of Utna Revolutionary Girl,
which is Bob Bevin's choice. He was obsessed with that anime.
He watches the only one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. If you guys set that up, I'm in. I
will find something that we all like can either group
loathe or group and joy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So that or even if we didn't watch entire shows,
we could just do samplings, you know, go around.
Speaker 2: That would be amazing. Yeah, yeah, all right, next up,
all right from Hainus Lizard. We might have done this before,
I don't recall, But in case we didn't, what's a
common trope that still draws you in as a reader?
I don't recall if we did this question or not.
It seems familiar, but I was also I was scrolling
pretty far back to get questions, so I make sure
I got like a sampling off everybody that wanted to
put questions out. So in case we did, so be
it it again. What's a common trope that still draws
you in as a reader?
Speaker 3: Well, uh, I'm a mystery reader, and I feel like
every mystery is pretty much you know, I don't know,
full of tropes and romance too. I mean that's why
people read them, because you want something familiar. Right, So
there's like all of these niche categories of romance and
you pick out the exact one that you want, like, uh, oh,
I fell in love with I went back home and
I fell in love with my high school bully whatever,
which is a horrible trope by the way, but yeah,
you could pick out what you want to read and
then it's like it's like made to order. It's so weird.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, I'm just gonna say, if you try
selling your book to me via tropes in it, I'm
not going to read it. I don't give a shit
about the tropes. I want to read. I want to
see a cover that draws me in, and I want
to see a blurb that makes me want to learn more.
I don't give a shit if it's if I don't,
I don't care that you're telling me, Oh, there's a
there's an h ga. Oh there's a bully romance. Oh
there's like you know, there there's a prophecy. I don't
give a fuck about that. I want a good story,
and I want you to, like, you know, to draw
me in with marketing materials that basically are like are like,
you know, okay, you know, give me a good cover
and then tell me Jurassic Park meets John Wick. Now
I'm kind of interested.
Speaker 2: You just had this discussion on the den fans, on
the authors and Dragon's discord in the book section. We
just had this discussion with some of the fans. They
were talking about the blank plus blank thing that a
lot of writers huston. Some people was like, I think
it was actually Zach so I was like, for some reason,
to him, it feels like stolen valor he're saying this
is Harry Dressen meets deep impact or so whatever two
plus things. But as as writers, that's kind of what
we're taught to do because we're trying to pitch it
and sell it to someone else.
Speaker 1: Well here's the thing. Even forget even forget about being
taught what to do. I can't stand doing it either,
but yeah it works.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: For every person who says I hate when authors do that,
there's three other people.
Speaker 2: That are more. I write. I made seven books by
I sold seven books by just telling it's doing.
Speaker 1: It that way. So yeah, so I understand it. You
know what people need to understand is most authors hate
doing that as well, but we also try to do
what sells their books, and that sells books.
Speaker 3: Yeah, marketing is completely different from writing.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. I was like, I like, Steve, excuse me,
catch just Steve, Like Rick, I was having this conversation
with the same people. Like what I look at it
is like I use the first date principle. So the
front cover is do I find this person attractive? Back cover?
I started reading it. It's flirtation, is there a little
is there a spark there? And then I read the
first few pages and that's the first date. And after
that I'll decide if I want a second Oh.
Speaker 1: You know, okay, okay, So that that was just metaphorical
attract It was I'm thinking, like, I don't want you
jack in my covers.
Speaker 2: I'm going to fuck that book. I don't want to
talk about.
Speaker 3: This is thinking put put a blurb on your butt.
Speaker 2: Butt blurb, blurb, the whole stuff. Ho, this is just below.
Speaker 1: If you just you know something that would you know,
I hate to say.
Speaker 2: It, that would just be if is that your tattoo?
Speaker 1: No, but but think think about it, like you know,
I'm like thinking, okay, you know somebody got like a
bill tattoo. So but if somebody would take the blurb
of your book and basically tramp stamp it or that
would just be so awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be. Yeah, it would be you know,
you've made it. Then though they take their shir off
on the back, it's just like there's a big park
parchment scroll. It's just the blurb of your book down
the middle of their back. So yeah, and then touch
here if you want to know more.
Speaker 1: Right, and that that final word just disappears in the
butt cracking.
Speaker 3: Funny.
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, what's one of the weirdest dreams you remember?
Having zack of all trades?
Speaker 3: Oh you know, you know?
Speaker 2: Did you have this one?
Speaker 3: No? No, I don't think so. I'm not thinking of
a weird dream. But I was just thinking the other
day that I have not had a flying dream in
a long time.
Speaker 2: I just have done tell telling the people's dreams are stupid.
Speaker 3: But no, I used to have them all the times, kid, Like,
not like Superman flying, but just like standing there and
all of a sudden like flapping your arms, like swimming
and just like moving upwards.
Speaker 2: I did that all the time. Like I start bicycling
my feet and like I'm like, I start propelling myself
in the air. And then I come and like you're
floating through the water, You're kind of you're treading water
through the air.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm a vivid dreamer, So I remember a lot of
my dreams that a lot of my dreams are weird
as fuck. And I'm also wanted. Like my dreams are
vivid enough where like it's pretty common for me to
be startled to wake by something, and when I wake up,
I'm still partially in the dream. Yeah, so it's like
reality and the dream kind of meshes more than once
I've gotten up out of bed to like, you know,
to grab something that was falling over, like a picture
of water or a kid or something, and only to
like you know, just kind of have them disappear from
with my grasp. And it's confusing enough where like I
will stand there, like like the picture of water thing,
I will stand there with nothing in my hand, knowing
it's nothing in my hand as my body is waking
it up. But I will still find a shelf to
put it on, just in case. But as far as
weirdest dreams I can remember, I remember one when I was,
you know, from years and years and years back, where
I was fighting against Leonard Nimoy, Except Leonard Nimoy wasn't.
He wasn't like you know, he was a person, but
he was also a demon.
Speaker 2: The fact that I was saying earlier Leonard nemay, but
it wasn't Leonard Nimoy, but it was keep.
Speaker 1: Going and and yeah, it's like he was this demon
from hell and at the end of the dream he
captured me and he put me in suspended animation, and
that's how I woke up.
Speaker 2: I always call this one my first dream because it's
like it was not my first, but it was the
first one I like I was around six, that I
had stuck with me ever since then. And actually this
dream is one of the like the reasons I ended
up writing my technom Answer series because in this dream,
I was my mom was a single mom from number
of years until I was about five or six years old.
So this isrother when I was about six or seven,
but I was at my babysitter's house. And then the
babysitter was like one of those ladies who had like,
you know, six or seven kids throughout the day kind
of thing, and she just, you knows, daycare kind of thing.
And in the dream, all the kids are disappearing and
I couldn't find them, and I went outside to the
back patio and I started finding they were all laying
on the ground dead and bleeding and the like their
throats had been cut. And then I looked and there
was like this one of those old old fashioned remember
that there was it's kind of like pyramid like this,
those things the clothes hangar, things like that their kids
hanging from that as it's going around and I'm trying
to pull them down. I'm trying to pull them down.
I look up in the sky and there's this flipping
black box that opens up and it's a portal to Hell.
And there's the devil and he's looking at me and
he's laughing at me.
Speaker 1: Right right now, there were old federal agents listening to this,
to this podcast, going, god damn it, she's starting to remember.
Speaker 2: So and so when I was, I always when I
was like around six or seven, I like or whatever,
they just was. It's like again, long ago. I'll just
say six for this, I felt like the devil was
taunting me. And so in my like so in that
technomanswer books, it is where the books were Hell takes
over and the Devil's taunting the main character Salem. So
it is like this, that dream has been a driving
force for my right, like that particular entire books. It
was just based off that dream I had as a kid,
and then like I just had to get good at.
Speaker 1: Writing it down.
Speaker 2: So yeah, like I yeah, I got some weird dreams.
I'm like you, I have such vivid dreams that awake
up I'm like, motherfucker, I need help.
Speaker 3: So yeah, nice, I don't. I don't have like a
weird dream that I remember with The most prophetic prophetic
dream I've ever had was I dreamt that my dad
was we were walking down the street and he kept
falling and couldn't get up. It was like a cobble
stone road and he had a cane and it was
just like he kept falling. It kept was like repeated
like four or five times. And then he was visiting
me a week later in real life and he told
us all that he actually had cancer, and so I
was like, WHOA, maybe I you know whatever. I don't know.
I don't know if I believe in that stuff, but
it was very coincidentally.
Speaker 2: So you know something I didn't happened, the falling or
the cancer.
Speaker 3: The cancer. Yeah, the cancer was real.
Speaker 2: Jesus, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, no, it's okay, He's I don't know.
Speaker 1: I do have proof of one time being being like
that happening, because like, yeah, we always have those that
sense of deja vu from dreams. I had a dream
with with a friend with a friend of mine and
I explained it. I explained to them and it was
really weird. It was kind of a weird circumstance. And
I told him the dream. I was like, I had
dream about you last night. Was a little bizarre. We
were doing this, we're doing this, we were like whatever.
And a couple of years later, we were in that
exact weird scenario. Like I said, very specific. It wasn't
just like, oh, we were walking down the street together.
And I looked up and I was like, you remember
what I told you about this dream? And she was like,
now that you mentioned.
Speaker 4: It, Wow, cool.
Speaker 1: I think. I think though, My most frightening ones are
what I call my what I call Voice of God dreams.
Do you ever have a dream where in your head
you hear a voice that is just so insanely loud
it wakes you up, Except it's all in your head.
Speaker 3: Not not a voice, but a sound usually yeah, like.
Speaker 2: Used like a sound or like usually it's a shock.
It's a it's an overwhelming sense of feeling that hits
me so hard that I I huh, and I come
awake from that. It's not a falling, it's not a flipping,
it's not danger. It's just an emotion so large that
my body has to react. To it and it forces
me awake.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's I have a recurring dream that actually
is very mundane, but I'm always visiting a seaside tourist town.
It's very cute, and I've been there so many times
now in my dreams that I like know the streets
and I know when things change, I'm like, oh, they
redid that, or you know something dumb like that, but yeah,
O they me, I redid that? Yeah, weird.
Speaker 2: All right, let's see what is the next question We've got? Uh,
what songs make you cry or get choked up? From
our friend.
Speaker 3: Blicks Blicks, what are you trying to do?
Speaker 2: Cry or choked up? I mean like I was in
a middle school dance once in Rio Speedwagon, So now
I get like a Pavlovs boner everything. All right, song
there is one for me. It's a weird and it's
a weird song and I don't know why it does well,
I know why it is. It's actually a bad religion
song called Sorrow and it's the Father and then the
opening line is like Father, can you hear me? And like,
I like, I love that song, and I was like
I grew up listening to it because I was like
a punk kid, but then like write it for my
dad died, so for some reason, obviously you know I've
got raging daddy. It's just to begin with. Anybody who
knows me knows this so any so when I hear
it now, it's like I can't not think of that time.
And I'm doing my best, Like I'm like, I'm gonna
listen to a no one's home because I'm gonna have
my golf a good old fashioned cry.
Speaker 4: So, so there are no songs that make me cry
or get choked up well typically, So the one emotion
I love getting from I love getting from songs is anger.
Speaker 1: Sure, and I love when like there's a hard rock songs.
It's just like and it's just like it just sparks
something in me because it's just like, you know, just
getting that way, and I don't know, I just find
that so energizing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm not dead inside, I'm dead outside.
Speaker 2: Work. Yeah, they sweak around the inside, but the outside
of line more, I'm.
Speaker 3: Like emotionally constipated or something. Very few things make me
and uh, but things music associated with other things definitely,
Like I went to see my kids first marching band
performance a few years ago, and I was also a
band nerd, so I was like I could it just
was uncontrollable. But nerds, okay, no you we cry from
the trauma.
Speaker 2: But no, like there Actually there are some shows like
a good story will actually bring me like because I
am rather like I am a very emotional person. People
that like know me. Uh. I love to wear my
emotions on the sleeve. But that's not just sadness. I
love joy, I love I love anger. I love sadness
because with that, if you're only in a state of one,
you don't know the beauty of the others, you know.
So I like, I like when I spend the wheel
of emotions that day and see what happens. A good show,
a good book, a good movie, you know. Uh, those
type of things. I get so invested that it brings
that out of me. Obviously, there's real life things obviously
when you lose so love when my son was like,
here's like my son was doing bullshit graduating from this
grade to this great kind of crap and that's it's
all bullshit. Sorry the other parents out there, But you know,
unless it's a real graduation, like you were graduating high school,
then everything else is bullshit. But we had to go
to my son who's graduating from like you know, sixth
to seventh grade or some ship like that. But his
teacher stood up and said specifically that, like he said
all these nice things by my son, but like he
did not just nice things. He saw my kid the
way that I see and and all and all the
other classmates. So like he was got voted class clown.
And they were they were like, oh no, he is
so much fun and he's much funny and we love
having him around. And they saw him not not just
the name, they saw him as a person. Oh I
lost I am losing it. And I'm like, I'm like,
look at my wife was just just shut the fuck up,
Just shut the fuck.
Speaker 1: Did your kid come up to you afterwards and be
like dad, Dad, why he got to be embarrassing me by
being a crying a little pussy.
Speaker 2: Well, good thing. I'm taller than he is and I
just punched him. I punched right hard, but the way
my father punched me, and like, and it will passed
down these generations. Like next question, Okay.
Speaker 1: I'm having a sorrow out of you.
Speaker 2: Do you have an innocuous life curse such as fitty
to finished sheets never goes on the right way. In
the first tride, is there something in your life that
just is always wrong? Are you do you have a
mummy curse on you from something about anything? Seldriana's yeah,
I think I have a bunch of these.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm bald and it sucks.
Speaker 1: But I'll say I'll say this, yes, if if it's
if it's in a bathroom emergency, I run in. There's
no there's no roller toilet paper. I grab one from like,
you know, the closet and run back in. That roller
toilet paper will be the hardest fucking roll to start
on the goddamn planet. It's it's like the sheets have
been welded together.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you have a million.
Speaker 2: Cats if I'm not used to. During a most of
my dating life, I will always find someone who's emotionally unavailable.
I've always I always found that person. Uh I. I whatever,
I tend to join something, it's always like, right when
it's about the fall apart, so the authors dragon, I
better not fall apart. I always I have these. I
have certain things that do happen all the time. I'm
trying to break those gypsy curses, like so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my my resume is full of companies that no longer.
Speaker 2: Exist, same when I was a contractor. Yeah, I am
do the same thing.
Speaker 3: So you just have to you just have to lean
into it.
Speaker 2: I'm the finisher or I'm the summer glow, like whoever
she joins a project and it just cancels. Yeah, I'm
a summer glow of exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the thing is, every time I've done that,
my department has done well, it's just been everybody else
is tanked.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: Except you can't really say that in an interview because
it makes you look like arrogant. But it's the truth.
It's like, you know, my department was like, you know
what was profitable. All these other motherfuckersdn't know what the
doing because I was undermining the whole time.
Speaker 3: My curse is that the first time I try something,
I usually do a pretty good job. But when I
start getting into it and trying hard, then I suck
really bad. So that makes is.
Speaker 2: This a sex story? Well after that diminishing returns.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: It just seems like when I start caring and I
really try hard, then I tank thinks I just have
to go around not giving a ship, and then.
Speaker 1: Everything perfect destroys everything she loves, like that stupid koala.
Speaker 2: All right, let's see here. What is the best fall theme? Snack?
Also from Celdriana. It's fall October's passes. We are now
in November. What is the best fall theme? Snack?
Speaker 3: Snack?
Speaker 2: Well, I think snack. We can we can widen this term.
You know, what's your lets your faulting drink? What's your
faulting like you know pastry or what's your what's your
faulting food? What's your what's you go to?
Speaker 1: All right, okay, so so so two dishes that I
like to cook in the fall. I like to make
my chili recipe, and I like and I like to make.
Speaker 3: Gumbo yum yumbo.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not a gumbo guys.
Speaker 3: Ask Rick about beans in chili?
Speaker 2: I do, like, I don't want to know this. Did
you shoo your pants? Do you see somebody else's past No?
Speaker 3: No, no, he just thinks they're technoledge.
Speaker 1: Beans don't go in chili. They don't go.
Speaker 2: God, what are you some Texas purists?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, they are.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm personally have the mindset that well, you know,
I cook probably better Texas chili than the most Texas.
But that's just my personal pinion.
Speaker 2: I've got his address, Texas. Just let you know I
can thank you.
Speaker 1: Don't get me, don't even wrong. I've got like last
time I made last time I made gumbo, I went
on there and I explained how New Jersey, why New
Jersey gumbo was better than Louisiana gumbo, and I pissed
off so many people on Twitter, and it was so wonderful.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, I.
Speaker 2: See fall themes. I mean, I do like a good
apple cider, like a hot apple cider in the fall.
That is a is a wonderful beverage, you know, uh,
you know, obviously a good chili like cocoas things like
things that warm you up. I've said it a thousand times.
I don't hate pumpkin caveat, but I'm sick of pumpkin
always coming out, Like we can have pumpkin all year long,
like that. We live in a planet where I can
have citrus all year long. Don't tell me we can't
pump big pumpkin nose. They have an average flavor at best,
And they only they told and they toed it out
this one time of year, so you all buy this
shit and and the truth be told, if you had
it year round, you realize it is like not even
in the top ten of best pots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe made number ten. Like you mentioned apple cider.
I drink apple citer all year long. I would drink
eggnug all year long. You know, give me in my
fucking egg.
Speaker 2: So fun about apple cider. I got it like I
was up in Alaska. I was like where I had
the get off a couple of shifts. I had the
next four days off after these back to back midnight
like set of midnight shifts. I was gonna play. I
had nothing going on. I had apartments myself. I would
play this shipload of video games, and I had this
big jug of apple cider. What I forgot about apple
cider is it makes you poop, especially the more of
it you drink. So like, so yeah, I drank. There's
a gallon of apple cider and then like, next thing
I know, I'm eight pounds later.
Speaker 3: So yeah, the fall makes me want to bring out
my crockpot. Yes, so anything that's not really snacks, but
you know, anything that goes in the crockpot warm makes
the house smell good. I'm like, yes, But also I
drink a lot more Chai in the fall. In the winter,
I like.
Speaker 2: Mold things like mold ciders and mold wines. And if
you can moll a hot beverage and pass it over
and preferably make an alcoholic. Now, I'm all, I'm good.
Speaker 3: What does moll mean?
Speaker 2: I don't have a fucking clue.
Speaker 1: I figured I just meant throw clothes in it.
Speaker 2: Sure, let me google that ship.
Speaker 1: Now I'll just say, mull it over. I cannot stand
any drink with cloves. I don't understand the appeal of clothes.
I don't understand why clothes even exist.
Speaker 3: Do you mean, like like with clothes floating around? Are
the flavor the flavor it's supposed.
Speaker 1: To be the both clothes floating in a drink, because
if I get one in my mouth, my mouth is
gonna go numb, and the flavor of the flavor of clothes. Yeah, yeah,
cloth clothes have no if The next answer is if
you can pick one plant to like go extinct, couldn't
fuck everybody else. It's clothes.
Speaker 3: It's probably like this store. It's probably the source of
like this life saving heart drugs clothes, just like.
Speaker 2: Moll means to heat, sweeten in flavor with spices for
drinking as ale or wine. So huh so heat it
sweetened and flavor it. So basically, just make a drink.
Damn it. I was, I was. I thought there's something
more like scientific or yule Tide about that, but nope,
just just do it.
Speaker 3: With regular drinks named after Richard Mall or something like
Bull from Night Court. Yeah, exactly, all right, Zack of.
Speaker 2: All trades wants to know what I guess? Okay, what
is like? So if it's an object or who is
your okay, just hear me out. Fictational crush? You got
a fictional crush. It's not of the norm because it's
like you gotta hear me out on this one. So
who is who? What if they? What's your fictional crush?
Speaker 3: Doctor Sanjay Gupta? He's not fictional though, the yeah, medical
consultant on the news channel or whatever.
Speaker 2: But then you got to go into like, like no
actual fictional like the baroness from g I Joe did
things to me as a child.
Speaker 1: And still you remember that, you remember that one episode
where she was just in for the entire episode.
Speaker 2: What do you think I got a tattoo in my
lower back? It's like it's not going no, like dude,
like a lot of those cartoons, like even like some
of the sexy autobot girls like RC and like some
of those like you know, like when like when they
went back to Cybertron, Like, uh, you.
Speaker 3: Gotta say, I got a tattoo on my back right
above the blurb.
Speaker 1: It wasn't. It wasn't a cool cartoon for as for
for a boy to watch. But along the same lines
of the barreness there, I always thought Gem was pretty hot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, okay, okay, well one like shut your damn mouth.
I watched every episode of Jam, especially because them in
the Misfits were good. But when the when Riot and
the Stingers showed up, now they they did, they had
some good songs. No, I watched all of that because
we were all cartoons. Gem was hot, Sitara, you know,
I mean, I mean shit. I hope to age as
well as Panther. I'm gonna be bald and muscular like
him and be good and good to fixed cars like
you know he like that's a fit motherfucker. So yeah,
any other you got any weird ones?
Speaker 4: Out there.
Speaker 2: Does that have to be cartoon based? Yeah, so then
fictional dritch do ordron do it for you?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: Moving on boneless wings or bone in wings, which you prefer,
zack of all trains, I'm gonna just I'll be I'll
just be blunt. Boneless wings are nuggets for adults. Yeah,
they are saucy nuggets for adults.
Speaker 3: They each have their own special uh occasion. Like if
you're if you're watching TV and you want to just
like zone out, you gotta go with boneless and a fork.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like something like popcorn. If I'm watching TV,
You're right, like a bowl of popcorn chicken. That's great.
If if if I'm going to a place and it's
like buffalo wings, those buffalo wings better have the bone
in them, because buffalo boneless wings just do not cut it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean every tes like, no, you got understand.
Boneless wings they different kind of kind of meat and
they form in like no, there they are chicky nuggies
for adults that have a lot that have sauce on them,
and it's fine. Just we're just but just call a
spade a spade.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they can be tasty. So they always ask, Well,
they don't always. They sometimes ask you which wings you
like better, like the flats or the or the what
are the other parts called the drumsticks?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Did they call the pointy thing anything?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But the thing is throw in the garbage.
Speaker 2: The thumb like the cartilage. Yeah, well it's a tip
of the actual wing. And like I just chew. I
just pulled the breading off of that. And like if
I if I find anything that's that's chewable that doesn't
like when you chew down on it, then yeah, eat it.
So yeah, but I like the flats myself, like the
figure out that snap it open and eat inside.
Speaker 1: So that's I switch off it. Like like I I go,
I go through phases where like I want nothing but
drumsticks and others want nothing but flats. It really it
depends on the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it also depends like because I also I'm trying
to get my son to appreciate what blue cheese does
for a good wing, and he is just no, father,
you are wrong, like you're you're not, You're you want
You're dumb. So you're dumb child. You'll you'll get better,
but like damn blue cheese on a good wing.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm not dairy, so that sounds gross on top
of cheese.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, I don't have no problem with blue
cheese dressing, but I don't. I don't like it on wings.
You don't why because when I when I'm eating buffalo wings,
I like to suffer.
Speaker 2: For see, I don't like hot. I like flavor wing.
I like you remember, like, oh this was like the
like the honey terioki or the barbecue or the you know,
the old bay or the whatever is cool. I when
it's just plain old buffalo and the just different degrees
of pain, that's not my jam.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see, I don't like that. I don't like
the other like you know, flavors of wings. I've tried
a punch of them. I always go back to buffalo
and and don't get me wrong, I don't want my
buffalo wings to like you know, to just like utterly
murder me. But I do want to suffer a little one.
I'm eating buffalo wings.
Speaker 2: When I eat it, when I first said my first
real buffalo wing, like you're tasting that actual sauce that
and I think.
Speaker 3: It when you open your mouth and the sauce makes
you cough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it made me think of my first I'm
having beer. Like we're all lying to each other, right,
Like this is just a like we this is a
group delusion that this is good. We all tell each
other like this is like it's not. It's a subjectively
a bad flavor, but we keep eating it or drinking
like just pissed water beer because we tell each other good.
When you actually have a good cocktail or a good
tasting beer, you're like, there are actually good products out there.
But we're lying, right, We're all lying to each other,
and I'm convinced of that.
Speaker 3: I am totally the honey barbecue type and I don't
go for buffalo.
Speaker 1: Really, and my kids love a barbecue. I don't know,
it's like you know what I mean, Buffalo wings. It's
like I want it to be like a dominatrix. I
want it to be like, you know, stepping on my
face and tell and telling me what a what a
piece of shit I have.
Speaker 2: Blix wants to know have we ever considered using a camp,
doing a campaign or one shot using a different role
playing system, and if so, which do we think would
work even if if it's not in the card. So basically,
outside of Dungeon Dragons FIVEY.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you know what, I would love to do
one that Judy has created because I haven't experienced any
of them her.
Speaker 2: I'm always willing to try. And it's like it's like
I got to learn the system kind of things. I
played a lot of different systems growing up, but like,
unfortunately five Y is so easy, well relatively, but it's
so easy to get in and kind of like a
little around with because every everything has got their own mechanics,
got their own weirdsism, like you know, whether it's the
D ten sys someone like you know, like a lot
of the old White Wolf games and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, can you imagine us all as like flavors of
vampire or whatever?
Speaker 1: Oh god, you know what I would love I would
love to love to see the Indie crew in a
Call of Cthulhu campaign. Yeah, I probably that would be hilarious.
What it would be hilarious up until the point that,
like you know that that Bob and Tentacles were introduced.
Speaker 2: But I'm here's what always happens. I'm always some like
you know, you know, Colonel Roger t SMI that then
you know Privateer and I'm like me that I run
right to the tentacles like I'm like, that's it, here's
my new guy. There it is. You know, like I'm
the first one to always go bonkers because that's where
the fun happens.
Speaker 1: So all right, I mean we've done We've done short
one shots with others. We've done like you know, everyone
is John Inspectors.
Speaker 2: The problem.
Speaker 1: The part of the problem is when we do like
a one shot is we tend to think of it
the night of the recording, which means we don't have
time to actually learn the fucking system.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me see.
Speaker 3: You know what, who who are we kidding? Even if
we had a month to prep, we wouldn't.
Speaker 2: You're right, what's something that helps set a creepy tone
in books or movies?
Speaker 3: Bill Bill Murray at the piano going.
Speaker 1: Well, no, you're not wrong. I mean in movies it's
all about sound. Like on TikTok there's like there's one
account that likes to show scary scenes with like dopey
music and it just shows like how how it's just
utterly ruined that. But we don't have that in books though.
Speaker 2: The tracking shot of the house and the original like
Michael Myers, you know, uh, movie and the original Halloween
and then music that iconic music that's playing that like
when that tracking shot opens to the house and they've
they've shown you the same house, but without the music,
it's a house. But the music it's just like Jaws.
That that's slow build. Like it's easy to get with
the movies. Tell the ship, like you said, in books,
it's really really hard to make something, you know, reep.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: My thing in books is I like to set up
a sense of isolation and that help is not coming. Yeah,
that's that's one of my go tos is That's that's
why a lot of my horror takes place in the forest.
You know, it's it's just an easy thing of like
you know of yeah, nope, you're alone, no help is coming.
Speaker 2: I like to like so in my one my Hammer
of Witch's books, like I don't have a lot of
horror things. I have some few scary things, but like
when I start to dial up the tension and the
type of thing to make it creepy because like my
my character Aggie, I like to try without saying it
out right, I tr like to try to describe the
feeling of a panic attack, like but the very beginnings,
like the heart started to raise a little bit slipping,
and then like not just the little things, like the little
pain you get in the side of your neck, as
that that vein starts to pulse up and down, and
then like that sense of like the pressure on the
chest and like you like the tunnel vision start setting in,
like but without going too far into it, just enough,
just like see anybody who ever had a panic attack.
You don't want to trigger one, but you know, you
know that onset feeling of like fuck that flight or
flight starts to kick in, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know if I've actually ever written
anything creepy. I always I try when I when I
said I have to try, I don't. I was end
up being really goofy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good, good, good jobs, Aldrianna, you're eskuing the cozy writer.
Speaker 2: She didn't know who she was gonna get, and I
was just make your books creepy.
Speaker 3: Just look cute and smile.
Speaker 2: I don't remember how any more. We got here, So
before we run out of time, Zack vaal Trade does
another one. Since we're approaching the spooky season, what are
some of y'all's favorite cheese horror movies. Just watch any
freakin' at the movies kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I always watched The re Animator almost every year.
I don't know why I like that one.
Speaker 1: I absolutely love one of Peter Jackson's early films, Dead Alive.
Speaker 2: Been Alive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is so over the top with like you know,
blood and gore and it's it's just fucking hilarious.
Speaker 2: I am unfortunately not the cheesy horror movie guy, you know,
And I get shipped on by the other people within
the group, like I I didn't grow up with it,
like when we did like that last week, because I
love like, I love DMGA, like I love talking to her.
It's great to meet her for the in person this
first time. But man, like she's gave me a lot
of shit. She's like me, you don't watch this. I'm like,
I didn't grow up with this. She's like, neither the
dim like, but I don't. I have a problem. Like
when I go it's like my son, when I go
back to look at something from nineteen nineties and backwards, man,
this looks like shit, why would I do that? You know?
So I I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: What watch She's gonna find you at a convention, drag
you into a room and be and be like, we're
watching Roger Corman for the next twelve hours. Oh god.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like that time people made me watch
Rocky Horrn and I'm like, you're not my friends anymore.
We're not friends anymore.
Speaker 3: You made me watch this thing, that whole movement, that
whole yeah cult like appreciation passed me by a yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can appreciate the movie for what it is.
I like Tim Curry, like you know.
Speaker 2: But the problem was, at first I watched it was
with like a whole bunch of Rocky Heart enthusiasts. You're like,
oh my god, you've never seen it. You've got to
watch it, and they like, and they'll watch it. These
fucking nerds are watching the drop of a hat. They
put out the VHS tape and put it in and
start watching it. And I'm like, and I'm trying to
watch it because when I watch a story, I'm in
it for us story. So I'm watching it, of course,
and I hate musicals number one. Everybody knows about me.
So and what made it worse is like all these
fucking people were getting out of the chairs, were at
the college house and they all get others and they
just start fucking time warp dancing or thrusting their fucking
hips in my face. Isn't this great game?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: I hate all of you? I really like it's like,
oh my god, and I record for a just lusted.
Everybody just use this position of power to fuck everybody
in this movie so much.
Speaker 1: But I mean, yeah, I'm the same if I'm watching
a movie for the first time, as long as it's
not in a movie theater, right, I prefer to watch
it alone because I don't want to deal with other
people's baggage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's see here. H God damn zack
of all trades. You're the DJ at a wedding. However,
due to some last minute computer snanigans, your playlist has
suddenly vanished. The bride's belt to walk down the aisle.
What is the worst possible song that you can think
of to play right now? He said, here comes the bride?
What song do you play to ruin this wedding?
Speaker 1: I don't know if it would ruin the wedding, but
but I play nine inch nails. You are the or
was that nine inch nails? I think it's Nineanche chails,
you are the perfect drug.
Speaker 2: Two live cruise pop that pussy.
Speaker 3: Uh, I don't know, maybe thank you next that's.
Speaker 2: A divorce, so yes, right, best flavor of chicken wings.
Speaker 1: We kind of already went through this given by that.
Speaker 2: Uh, we already did the tones and did that. Is
there any chance we're gonna get an origin story for
the characters, your guys' characters, similar to how the chronicles
of Clamby Crew got an origin story. Zack of all trades?
You're gonna write? Are you guys gonna write your individual books?
The backstory of Claudia, the backstory of Mood, et cetera,
et cetera.
Speaker 3: I feel kind of I feel kind of funny about
this because I wrote one of Steve's and I wrote
John's for them, so I might as well write Claudia's
for my myself.
Speaker 1: I guess like, I'm not gonna say no, because actually
I had. I had a lot of fun writing Silas's backstory,
and I think bringin Moves would be fun too. It's
just a matter of finally find the time to uh
to slip it in.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was sorry, that really did not.
Speaker 2: Sorry. I thought I'm gonna shine all right, we have
one last question and it is from J. L. D.
Do centaurs have a similar diet to horses or humans?
Speaker 3: I mean, we'll have to quiz threw on this.
Speaker 1: I would think let's let's.
Speaker 2: Let's let's let's let's centaur splain to him. Let's just
tell him, no, this is how it is.
Speaker 1: Now. Like just there's the sheered way that they're set.
They technically should have two sets of organs for most
of their stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait to hoop shoots.
Speaker 2: Well no, but I mean it there they have a
liver here, they have a heart here, and like so
it's like a man on a horse and the horses
like from the from the shoulder to the butt has
organs in there. That's just one big long digestive track
of forms an l Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's possible. Like you know, like like
their horse body is just full of it's just nothing
but a giant bag intestines. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But the whole, the whole driving thing is the human
brain and the human taste buds. So I can't imagine
like bales of hay through the human.
Speaker 2: You know, they're not down with oats. I mean they're
gonna have like you know, like you know, they're just
gonna eat some burger.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Look, you know it's does the meta target piss at
them for that? You know, like you know, huh, I
don't know. I like to think they like people do.
Speaker 1: Kind of fun like you know, what if what if
the Justica Center is just aggressively all about the oats?
It's like, what would you like some stew? Which which
part about bringing me a bowl of fucking oats? Did
you not?
Speaker 2: Because I got this Wilford Brimley selling me like Quaker
oatmeal thing, you know, like it's just just but.
Speaker 3: But angry and ripped.
Speaker 1: It looks like I want to.
Speaker 3: I still see the driver cap, the driver's cap, like
oh yeah.
Speaker 2: God, that's why I should just bring it. Is like
just like a like an overweight centaur, the like a
like a Wilfrid Brimley centaur that's got to beat us,
you know, it's like he's got.
Speaker 1: I think. I think if you talk to people who
own horses, horses will eat a wide variety of stuff.
It's not just like you know, they eat oats because
horses like the snack you like apples.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Jesus, I literally got a Google what a
horses deed?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: I always imagine like they just eat like the way
people do. Like you know, they'll they'll have roast deer.
They'll they run around the forest. You know, they'll throw
forests and wild vegetables and whatever meat.
Speaker 1: Like. There are a lot of animals that are technically
like you know, vegetarian, but in a pinch will become omnivores,
like like squirrels will fuck something up. It's squirrels get
hungry enough, like like a.
Speaker 2: Lot of like apes and baboons and city like they
will kill another monkey and eat him. So you know, mhm, yeah, so.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe maybe maybe horses occasionally get cravings where like
they'll just they just walk into a field, look around,
nobody's there, and they just pick up a house cat
and just tear the head off.
Speaker 2: Just missing children. He's just trump down on the deck,
just shaking like timmy from left or right like a
rag doll.
Speaker 3: I'm not apologetic. I need a lot of calories to
run this thing.
Speaker 2: You see how big my ass has You see the
size of that blurb.
Speaker 1: Like a horse just one day is like I have
tasted protein and he is good.
Speaker 2: He's got a tattoo. He's got a tattoo in Ell,
which that says, you know, like alpha. So yeah, all right,
I think we've reached the end of the questions. Do
you guys have any questions for our friend our friends
and family out there?
Speaker 3: You can just say no, are you buying for Christmas?
Speaker 2: H that's a good call. That's a good call. Any
new releases on either coming for either one of you?
Anything coming up? Do you want to want to plug anything?
Speaker 1: So I stupidly said I'm Chaser, which is my first
lit RPG to go live on Election Day, which is
this coming Tuesday. But I'm not pushing it right now
because the cover that it has is not really selling
the book, so I'm waiting for the new cover to
be finished, which is probably not going to happen to
So this is one of those books where I'm kind
of like it kind of I'm stuck with the launch.
I can't do anything about it. I'm kind of just
kind of sliding along and then hopefully once the new
cover is there, then I'm going to try to push
it harder.
Speaker 2: Okay, The Time Chasers Literary BG by Rick Walteriery and
Lady you have anything coming very cool.
Speaker 3: I'm still working on your draft. I'm doing a couple
holiday shows, so i'll have Arsenic and Albis out there. Yeah,
that's about it, all right.
Speaker 2: I'm still working on a draft of my next Villain's book.
But for those who really want to have a good
time with it, like a villainous, fun, fourth wall breaking, cruel,
dark humor that the shadow Master series books one through
three are available on a on Audible for one credit,
so you can get like the first three books in
one the shadow Master Collection booked one through three on Audible.
Please get it and enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Oh and of course, if, if, if, if you're one
of the like the listeners out there and you're you're
sticking with the old games, you're playing your salt listen
to Salty Bassards. You listen to chronicles, give dicey bastards
to try. It's a really fun game.
Speaker 2: Jump in and it's it's no, it's fun and it's
like there and you can you can listen to a
few episodes and go back. You listen a few episodes
and go back. Trust me, like we're only like we
like seventeen or eighteen episodes in they're like you got time,
you know, so come and enjoy us be in the
now being the zeitgeist.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Fuck those old people.
Speaker 3: So who were mostly us Yeah, but I wasn't there
and so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so on behalf of Rick WALTERIY and Emily Kaplin.
I'm okay, Gibson. Thank you all very much for tuning
into this special interlude. Will be back next time when
we actually have the next uh the concluding hopefully the
concluding episodes of what happens next in the town of
West Cherry and the Dicey Bastards. Thank you all. You've
been great. See y'all next time. Bye Bye.
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