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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It's very pain here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Thursday. I've got my friend here, one of my

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<v Speaker 1>besties and the biz and in real life my friend

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<v Speaker 1>Cake Casey of Reality Life with Cake Casey.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me. Glad to be back. Glad

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<v Speaker 2>to be back.

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<v Speaker 1>Your hair looks really cute. Are you doing something different?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it feels so dry underneath. I was just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of playing with it. It feels like someone died underneath my

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<v Speaker 2>hair and then there's still attached to it. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>My hair goes through seasons all the time, but it

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<v Speaker 2>is extremely thick and dense, and I have to get

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<v Speaker 2>it thinned a lot o. Both my parents have very

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<v Speaker 2>thick like Irish hair, yeah, which in theory would be

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<v Speaker 2>a great thing but is actually kind of a headache.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have four girls and they all have really

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<v Speaker 2>thick care too, So there's just a lot of hair

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<v Speaker 2>situations going on in the house. But you know what's funny,

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<v Speaker 2>My number three is like she's twelve, sixth grade or

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<v Speaker 2>she's obsessed with hair. She maakes up at six fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>every morning and does a very complicated braid or hair style,

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<v Speaker 2>and she just had her conference on Monday, and the

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<v Speaker 2>teacher said, I just look forward to what new things

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<v Speaker 2>she's gonna come in. She has coordinated bows, she does

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<v Speaker 2>complicated braids, like she that's her thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't braide my own hair. I can get into.

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<v Speaker 2>The hilarity of it. Yeah, I've got my hair in

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<v Speaker 2>like a low ponytail all the time, like an Amish woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Me too, Like I can't even do my own little

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<v Speaker 1>braid in my own hair. No, no, okay, well, good

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<v Speaker 1>for her. That means she's artistic.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, huh, that one I think might run a company.

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<v Speaker 2>She's really okay, she's very intense.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, she's not the twenty percent.

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<v Speaker 2>She is the one. Yes, no, that is her. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the funny thing. Yeah, she started. And this is just

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<v Speaker 2>if you've got young moms listening, I hope that this

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<v Speaker 2>makes them feel better. At the beginning of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>I was really worried about her because she's we live

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<v Speaker 2>in a different neighborhood than the actual school is located.

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<v Speaker 2>All those kids from that school live in the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>We live outside. And the truth is, if you live

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<v Speaker 2>outside the neighborhood, sometimes you've forgotten about for playdates. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I worried about her and she wasn't invited to

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of things. And I knew a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>the moms in the grade, and I just said, I

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<v Speaker 2>text them, I go, I just need you to let

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<v Speaker 2>me know because I know that you will tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>Is my kid an asshole?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Because if they're a dork, I can work with that,

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<v Speaker 2>but like an assholes, it's going to be scorched her.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they're going to And they said, no, it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I realized it's we're out of the neighborhood thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Cut too. I get a text from one of those

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<v Speaker 2>moms about two weeks ago and she said, I just

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<v Speaker 2>need you to know that the girls other girls were

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<v Speaker 2>all in the car and they said that my daughter

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<v Speaker 2>was their favorite in the entire grade because she's no drama.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you did notice she's everybody likes her so like

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<v Speaker 2>she's everyone's favorite because she just stays out of everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>business and she's super happy and supportive. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>it goes back to me always thinking she'd run a

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<v Speaker 2>company because she just doesn't get mired in people's nonsense business.

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<v Speaker 2>She's all about the mission. Yeah, but that is funny. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she used to give thirty percent, and she's a dancer now,

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<v Speaker 2>which is even more funny. Nobody about this, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the point is for young moms where you're like, socially,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's going on with my kid, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is so frustrating, and you cry yourself to sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>Lord knows I have. I've got five kids. They have

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<v Speaker 2>all of ebbs and flows. Something may turn a corner.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like they have a playdate and they get find

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who's their people. There's some life experience that gives

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<v Speaker 2>them a bunch of confidence. Truly, you could turn a

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<v Speaker 2>corner at any minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I agree with that, and I only have the

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<v Speaker 1>two children. I'm an underachiever in the children department, and

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that. You never know, you never know.

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<v Speaker 1>And also I'm always just of the belief of like,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll turn out like it's supposed to do, They'll end

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<v Speaker 1>up where they're supposed to, whatever will be, We're be

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<v Speaker 1>and you can only control so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Again, very helpful for me to have friends who

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<v Speaker 2>have older kids, because there are many times I'll call

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<v Speaker 2>you about something and you'll go, okay, Well, here's the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to chill the hell out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's not important in the long run, you know. Yeah, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to tell you guys, we're here to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about pop culture and Bravo and I'm gonna also be

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<v Speaker 1>this week on Ice and Anna's podcast Reality Court, So

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<v Speaker 1>be looking for me there to be chatting Bravo as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So to do that, to get ready for this, I

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<v Speaker 1>had to kind of catch up on Bravo because I

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<v Speaker 1>was out of town, so I watched two episodes of

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<v Speaker 1>Beverly Hills last night. I made sure I was caught

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<v Speaker 1>up on Southern Charm, which I was. But we're about

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<v Speaker 1>to enter a heyday of Bravo. We're about to have Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>Rhode Island, the Valley for Rhode Island, and Ladies of

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<v Speaker 1>London just started, so we're like, we're about to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Bravo giveth and Bravo taketh Away.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if I'm so like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>like chomping the bit for the Valley. I really like

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies of London. I'm excited about Real Housewives and DA

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the net is. I really like new people,

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<v Speaker 2>new stories. I get very I wouldn't say bored, but

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<v Speaker 2>I just sort of get like, okay, big Ben Parliament,

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<v Speaker 2>where are we going with it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. Well, Ladies of London, Keisha

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<v Speaker 1>and are gonna be covering that on Mondays on the

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<v Speaker 1>free Feed.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>We just were like, because you know, we cover prisoner

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<v Speaker 1>shows on Monday, MUK Shop Monday, but our prisoner show

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<v Speaker 1>is off right now, so we were like, let's completely

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<v Speaker 1>mix it around, so we're gonna call it like Monarch Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>And I liked your Majesty Monday, and we also had

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<v Speaker 1>Milady Monday, but I think we're gonna go with Marnock Mondays.

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<v Speaker 1>But we I've only watched the first episode, even though

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<v Speaker 1>they dropped two because we sort of decided at the

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<v Speaker 1>last minute. I only had the you know, because I

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<v Speaker 1>was out of town. I only had time to watch

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<v Speaker 1>the first. But so far, so good. Next week we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to cover two and three together. And Micah, the

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<v Speaker 1>girl that Dara hates is that is so that scene

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<v Speaker 1>with her like going in and talking to Dara and

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<v Speaker 1>then everybody saying Darre really hates her and says she's

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<v Speaker 1>cringe and all that I was like, oh, we've all

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<v Speaker 1>been there, We've all been We've all been there, like oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I got our friend, this is my friend, and then

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<v Speaker 1>finding out they've really been shit talking to you and

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<v Speaker 1>think you're annoying as fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was talking to Louis Staples, who's a culture

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<v Speaker 2>writer about yeah yeah show Yeah, and it was so

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<v Speaker 2>funny to me thinking about, like the biggest cultural difference

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<v Speaker 2>is in America, if you're self made, you are top

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<v Speaker 2>of the tier, like you get the most respect. It's

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<v Speaker 2>totally opposite there. Yes, it's like a neo baby there.

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<v Speaker 2>You would want to be a neo baby like baby

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<v Speaker 2>is like big time, but in America you're like shit

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<v Speaker 2>on if your.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's really interesting, right, because it's also very

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<v Speaker 1>interesting about Ladies London. If you guys aren't watching it,

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<v Speaker 1>you have time to catch up. They only put out

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<v Speaker 1>two episodes so far. On Thursday night they'll be the

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<v Speaker 1>third and uh, I thought it was interesting about Emma,

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<v Speaker 1>who is married to the baron or whatever higher than

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<v Speaker 1>a baron, a marquis, marquise. However you say it, March March, Hanna, Marcella, No,

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<v Speaker 1>but go ahead, Marchesa. I don't know I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to bone up on it, but uh that she is

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<v Speaker 1>actually the first black woman to marry in the aristocracy,

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<v Speaker 1>not Megan mark Goal, and I loved that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's a difference. So Brian Moylan's husband broke this

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<v Speaker 2>down to me. So there's the monarchy there, there's the aristocracy,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there's social lights. So there's three different categories.

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<v Speaker 2>So Megan Markle was monarchy and this is the aristocracy.

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<v Speaker 2>And years ago during COVID, I tried to make a

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<v Speaker 2>show about female CEOs in London and she was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the people that we had kind of looked at because,

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<v Speaker 2>as she describes in the first episode, you have these

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<v Speaker 2>enormous family estates, yes, and you have to keep the

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<v Speaker 2>lights on and if you don't, the government takes it back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So the onus is on those people to maintain those homes.

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<v Speaker 2>But a lot of them they have these fancy titles,

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<v Speaker 2>but they don't have like a real skill set and

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<v Speaker 2>they need to make money.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, I don't have any money, yeah, cash poor. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So she and the husband came up with this brilliant

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<v Speaker 2>idea to have a safari and like tons of people

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<v Speaker 2>go it's like a big thing to go on.

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<v Speaker 1>The show over a million people a year ago. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to tour the home and to go in the Safari.

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<v Speaker 1>And remember the first Ladies of London there was Juliet

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<v Speaker 1>Montague never watched it. Oh, okay, so first season or

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<v Speaker 1>the original season. I guess it was like season three.

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<v Speaker 2>Juliet Montague joins she was an American and she married

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<v Speaker 2>a brit and they have one of those estate homes.

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<v Speaker 2>And I highly encourage people to go and follow her

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram. She years ago explained to me that whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing about when you lose the house if you can't

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<v Speaker 2>pay for it. So she started to make videos of

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<v Speaker 2>renovating this home that had been in her husband's family

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<v Speaker 2>for generations and generations. And then I think that I

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<v Speaker 2>used to stay to her years ago. Man, this could

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<v Speaker 2>be a TV show. I think that they actually have

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<v Speaker 2>a TV show now and she has big groups that

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<v Speaker 2>come and you can stay at the home. But the

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<v Speaker 2>other thing I always said to her, which I guess

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<v Speaker 2>it is hard to do, is you should have like

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<v Speaker 2>a music festival because they have gigantic properties.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and you also have to factor and you have

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<v Speaker 2>to have restrooms.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Well, it's a lot to go into that fire festival.

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<v Speaker 1>But I am Ladies of London. I like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>only watch the one episode. I'm excited about it. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the Valley, you're not excited about it. I am excited

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<v Speaker 1>about the Valley. I am. I love those people. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Avander pump rules o G until I die. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be old on my couch with these people, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm excited about it, and I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 1>very interested. So Sheena is not going to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the lala Is and I was kind of hoping they

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<v Speaker 1>La La with you know, so.

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<v Speaker 2>This show's coming back and Sheena is not invited to

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<v Speaker 2>any of this stuff that's going to be a torturous

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<v Speaker 1>She's going to regret it. When she decided it, she

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<v Speaker 2>That's actually the side reality show that I would want

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<v Speaker 2>to be privy to is her melting down because she's

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<v Speaker 2>she can review each episode. It actually might be better

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<v Speaker 2>because she'll probably say things you know, no one else

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<v Speaker 1>She's not under contract with brother true.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Okay, this is going to work out.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, listen to our podcast, Atlanta. I'm excited about that,

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<v Speaker 1>Are totally totally. I'm glad we're gonna see Nani on

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<v Speaker 1>this Ultimate Girls strip. Whenever that's gonna be. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>You think? I don't think it's too far off. Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>our friend Chris.

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<v Speaker 1>He worked on it. I know, I know. God bless Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Rhode Island, what are you hearing about? Real Housewives of

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<v Speaker 2>I mean not much. But that could be two things.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be like the sleeper hit, or it could

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<v Speaker 1>I know literally nothing about it. All I know about

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<v Speaker 1>Rhode Island is Inkrid's brother in law and his husband,

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<v Speaker 1>who are on the cruise with us, live in Rhode Island.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I know about Rhode Island.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so where like Newport, Rhode Island is so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>My friend got married there. Actually, my friend I've been

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<v Speaker 2>then she moved to Newport and she became this big time,

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere else. My friend Christine just told me because her

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<v Speaker 2>or the I thought she would be a cast member.

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<v Speaker 2>But she's moving. Well, I'll ask her, I'll find out.

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<v Speaker 1>She'll know everything. She'll know everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds like this one is like not in Newport, Rhode Island.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like in another suburb. But it's a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of wish there were two shows because I

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<v Speaker 2>do like the super fancy people who are like uptight

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<v Speaker 2>and have all these super scandals. But I do love

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<v Speaker 2>a group of women who kind of live in the

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<v Speaker 2>sub I live in suburbia, so I kind of dig

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, when you say Rhode Island, I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>the whole state, so you're not. It's like just then

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<v Speaker 1>like Columbus or Cleveland or whatever, they did the whole state.

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<v Speaker 1>So Rhode Island, Yes, we unders and it's a very

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that they kind of made it in

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning. It was like a lot of landscape photos

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<v Speaker 2>of like Newport, Rhode Island, the gigantic mansions. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think in reality it's like, you know, live in these

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<v Speaker 2>housewives should be aspirational living, it's probably gonna be a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of people that are, you know, in Bezley money

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<v Speaker 2>and like a true suburban story where you're looking at

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<v Speaker 2>your neighbor like how do they afford that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And you and by the way, aspirational is different for everybody, right, Like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know Cole Rich's life is aspirational, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>you could look Intolor's Catania's life could be aspirational. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>these are very different levels of wealth. Okay, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Summer House. So I don't watch it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>fuck a Summerhouse. Don't come at me. I'm also never

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<v Speaker 1>going to watch Lost. Don't come at me. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to watch Wire either. I don't want to hear it,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have time. I feel like that about Game

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<v Speaker 2>of Thrones.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never gonna watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry to watch it, forget it.

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<v Speaker 1>My son watched it. He's obsessed with it that he

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<v Speaker 1>started reading the books, like obsessed. So sorry, not going

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. Okay. I don't want to see a

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want just dragons. You lost me to dragon,

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<v Speaker 2>lost me to dragons.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but Summerhouse. I don't watch it, but I always

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<v Speaker 1>like to talk to my guest about it because it

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<v Speaker 1>is big in the Bravo world. So Kyle and Amanda

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<v Speaker 1>are getting divorced. That's all I know about what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>right now because Page is off and Page is like

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<v Speaker 1>the only person that I knew right just didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>mostly know herk as a crag. So what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in Summerhouse that you would like to speak on?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I would just say it's like two factions. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got young people who are in the prime of their

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<v Speaker 2>life in terms of social life and having a great

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<v Speaker 2>old time. And then you have this old married couple

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<v Speaker 2>who is unbelievably unhappy and on the on the brink

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<v Speaker 2>of divorce.

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<v Speaker 1>Old like they're in their forties.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well maybe Amana is in her thirties, but Kyle's

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<v Speaker 2>like forty two. But then you know, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>juxtaposition with like a twenty eight year old who just

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<v Speaker 2>wants to go to a bar, get wasted and be

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<v Speaker 2>hungover the next morning. They are total totally different phases

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<v Speaker 2>of life. And then in the middle it's this you know,

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<v Speaker 2>long suffering wife Amanda, who I think looks to them

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<v Speaker 2>from the window. She's like sitting in the window looking

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<v Speaker 2>outside at a pool party. I want to go join

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<v Speaker 2>the party, but my husband's in the shower and I

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<v Speaker 2>have to talk to him in thirty minutes about the

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<v Speaker 2>state of our relationship when all I want to do

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<v Speaker 2>is get the hell out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like that now sounds fun.

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<v Speaker 2>They separated and there is some television show that they

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<v Speaker 2>filmed after Summerhouse ended, like the City, which is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be even worse than watching this because now you

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<v Speaker 2>don't even have the fun people on the side of

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<v Speaker 2>wh in the pool party.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess it's filmed with Carl's X who has

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<v Speaker 2>a baby now, So I just don't think that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be super exciting. Okay, Now, Kyle, there was a

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<v Speaker 2>rumor a couple of days ago that West, who is

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<v Speaker 2>super hot and funny and normal and cool, that he

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<v Speaker 2>and Amanda were hooking up. I think Dumois put it

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<v Speaker 2>out and people within the Bravo sphere went absolutely shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they probably did, I don't. I just don't.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Kyle was asked about it. I't watched What

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<v Speaker 2>Happens Live last night? Yeah, and he was diplomatic, but

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of whether or not his infidelity, which was

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<v Speaker 2>I would assume pretty prevalent, yes, rampant from the very

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<v Speaker 2>beginning too, Like I think she knew he was a cheater,

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<v Speaker 2>but still maybe you got married to him because one

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<v Speaker 2>of two things she thought he would change, never will

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<v Speaker 2>ladies and number two probably dangling the carred of will

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<v Speaker 2>have this on the television show and you know, blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah. People get sucked into that. So he was

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<v Speaker 2>asked kind of like, do you think that your infidelity

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<v Speaker 2>created problems in this marriage? Okay, is the sky blue?

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<v Speaker 2>Is the pope Catholic? Sure, but Kyle kind of acknowledge

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<v Speaker 2>of it. But he also said, I am now a

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<v Speaker 2>proponent of living with someone before you get married. And

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<v Speaker 2>what he means by that was he got married to

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<v Speaker 2>her he thinks she's a slob, Like there's shit all

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<v Speaker 2>over their apartment and she's lazy and doesn't pick it up. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>when he doesn't factor in is he's been cheating on

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<v Speaker 2>her from the beginning and she's probably depressed and that's

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<v Speaker 2>why she smokes weed all day and doesn't use a vacuum.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh. So there you go. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Very interesting. I'm always interested in people that live with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that is just such a slob.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then well I know you don't, and I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>messy but I'm not a slob, but I do. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always surprised that people who have a level of just

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<v Speaker 1>regular money don't have somebody come in twice a week

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<v Speaker 1>and just be that person that just picks up all

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<v Speaker 2>But I also find there are people that don't. They

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<v Speaker 2>look at they look at mess and they're like, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you talking about? That is clean? But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>in fairness, I was brainwashed and boarding school too. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like a military school where I had to do

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<v Speaker 2>chores and like dust heaters and all of that. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I can ever like turn that volume down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting and a lot of like really artistic

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<v Speaker 1>people are messy. Like my sister's artistic and she's messy

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<v Speaker 1>and like her office is like whoa, like whoa episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Hoarders whoa. But then you know she does probably

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<v Speaker 1>once a quarter have her organizers come in. They sit

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<v Speaker 1>with the mess, they fix it, they fix it all up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good till the next quarter and they come in

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<v Speaker 1>and they do it again. She's just like, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that this is a problem. And other people don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to look at it. She just keep it to the

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<v Speaker 1>areas that other people don't see. So that's good. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>summer House, Okay, so let's talk about Southern charm just

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. So I have been It's hard for

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<v Speaker 1>me to say this, but I've been a little impressed

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<v Speaker 1>with Shep this season. And I know you're friendly with Shep,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've also had an interaction with him that was

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<v Speaker 1>left me rattled and grossed out. I'm not one of many,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do think this season that he is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the gang together, keep it, you know, copasetic,

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<v Speaker 1>because Craig and Austin hate each other and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if they will ever be friends again. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much damage there, and I think eighty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the problem is Craig's lying and drinking. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think Craig fully doing a whole thing last season

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<v Speaker 1>of like, I'm an addict. I can't go out all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I know you want me to be your

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<v Speaker 1>buddy that go out and drinks, but I can't do

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<v Speaker 1>that because I'm an addict. To this season to being like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's wrong with going out and drinking all the time?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm single, you wish you were single? Like what are

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<v Speaker 1>you the same person? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And what Melissa said, your bish therapist, She was like,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody seems to be grasping here that Craig said. Last

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<v Speaker 1>season he's an addict and he can't drink, and this

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00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:23.119
<v Speaker 1>season he's out partying. Nobody's saying like, hey, my friend

420
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<v Speaker 1>had a relapse.

421
00:21:24.920 --> 00:21:27.480
<v Speaker 2>I think he's sort of like a Mary Cosby where

422
00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:30.480
<v Speaker 2>everyone's sort of like afraid of getting into a fight

423
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<v Speaker 2>with him. Yeah, it kind of just like you walk

424
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<v Speaker 2>on eggshells. And I think he's like one of the

425
00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I think he's like Kyle, where he like wants to

426
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<v Speaker 2>remind you all the time, like I've been here from

427
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<v Speaker 2>the very beginning. You need to follow my lead. I know,

428
00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:47.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm the reason you're all here, you know

429
00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:51.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing. Does he feel that deep in his body? Maybe,

430
00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:54.680
<v Speaker 2>but I think it's but it's only accentuated with the

431
00:21:54.799 --> 00:21:57.160
<v Speaker 2>drinking and whatever. I don't know what other stuff, but

432
00:21:57.839 --> 00:22:01.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, the worst part of somebody is the even

433
00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:05.240
<v Speaker 2>worse when they're drinking. And I think that. And then

434
00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:08.160
<v Speaker 2>I had Witner, who's on the show on my podcast

435
00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:11.079
<v Speaker 2>today and I asked him about like what do we

436
00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:13.559
<v Speaker 2>need to know about that meltdown? And he said, like

437
00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:17.759
<v Speaker 2>in this yeah, he's obviously been drinking all day in

438
00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:20.240
<v Speaker 2>the heat, Like that doesn't help things. But he said

439
00:22:20.319 --> 00:22:25.400
<v Speaker 2>he's also when we were filming this, like deep into

440
00:22:25.880 --> 00:22:29.079
<v Speaker 2>the pain of like the breakup with Page. And I

441
00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:33.039
<v Speaker 2>think the part of that too is we forget that

442
00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:37.519
<v Speaker 2>these reality stars think of themselves as brands, right, and

443
00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:41.319
<v Speaker 2>he thought of himself as this like co brand, and

444
00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:46.799
<v Speaker 2>now his ex while he's filming this show, is dating

445
00:22:46.839 --> 00:22:50.839
<v Speaker 2>somebody who's bigger, better, better maybe in the public perception.

446
00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:56.200
<v Speaker 2>She's getting so many unbelievable opportunities. She's on the red

447
00:22:56.240 --> 00:23:00.640
<v Speaker 2>carpet of the Vanity Fair, you know, oscar party, she's

448
00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:04.119
<v Speaker 2>getting commercials, she's getting that, and he is still on

449
00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:06.240
<v Speaker 2>the same show. So a lot of that is projection,

450
00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:08.799
<v Speaker 2>I think too, with Austin, like what have you done

451
00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:11.240
<v Speaker 2>in the last five years? I think he's really just

452
00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:15.000
<v Speaker 2>projecting his own insecurities because here's the woman that he

453
00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:17.559
<v Speaker 2>thought he would marry and she's left him, and she's

454
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<v Speaker 2>basically alluding to him being a nightmare, right yeah, oh yeah,

455
00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:25.680
<v Speaker 2>And he's drinking, which he feels terrible about deep down

456
00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:27.960
<v Speaker 2>because he knows he probably shouldn't be doing it. It's

457
00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:29.359
<v Speaker 2>like a cauldron of things.

458
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<v Speaker 1>M that's all true, I do. I think it is

459
00:23:35.599 --> 00:23:38.079
<v Speaker 1>interesting to sort of and we saw this with lu

460
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<v Speaker 1>Anne as well, to sort of announce, you know, I'm

461
00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:44.720
<v Speaker 1>an addict. I can't drink da da da da, and

462
00:23:44.759 --> 00:23:46.640
<v Speaker 1>then the next season be like, no, I never said that,

463
00:23:46.920 --> 00:23:48.599
<v Speaker 1>everything's fine.

464
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<v Speaker 2>You know. Actually it makes me sad.

465
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<v Speaker 1>It's very sad. It's very sad. There's somebody else that

466
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<v Speaker 1>did that exact same thing. I'm trying to remember who.

467
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<v Speaker 2>Well. I think a lot of people beg the question

468
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<v Speaker 2>can you be sober on a reality show? I mean,

469
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<v Speaker 2>there was a lot Leah McSweeney and Bravo about this

470
00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:07.400
<v Speaker 2>very same thing is that she feels like, you know,

471
00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:10.119
<v Speaker 2>they made it seem like you can't be sober on

472
00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:13.000
<v Speaker 2>a reality show, but you can.

473
00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:16.359
<v Speaker 1>And she was you know what I mean, I know that,

474
00:24:16.480 --> 00:24:17.240
<v Speaker 1>but I.

475
00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:20.519
<v Speaker 2>Think people feel like saying this too, because I remember

476
00:24:20.519 --> 00:24:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Bronwin said to me after she became sober, she said,

477
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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm afraid no one is going to find

478
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<v Speaker 2>me interesting anymore. Like in reflection years later, she's like, oh,

479
00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:34.039
<v Speaker 2>my gosh, that was like such a big deal for me.

480
00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:37.359
<v Speaker 2>Is she in her mind? She thought, oh my god,

481
00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:39.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm so much fun to be around with. I was like,

482
00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:40.480
<v Speaker 2>you're actually a nightmare.

483
00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:42.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But for her a little.

484
00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:44.519
<v Speaker 2>Bit of time to kind of like shift that perspective.

485
00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:48.720
<v Speaker 2>But her immediate worry was, well, like, I'm not going

486
00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:51.319
<v Speaker 2>to have a job because I'm not interesting enough or

487
00:24:51.319 --> 00:24:52.480
<v Speaker 2>funny or enough for TV.

488
00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:56.319
<v Speaker 1>But so you think it's somebody like Margaret who's never

489
00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:57.000
<v Speaker 1>had a drink.

490
00:24:57.160 --> 00:24:58.880
<v Speaker 2>True, absolutely, you know what I mean.

491
00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:02.680
<v Speaker 1>And she's great tell vision, great TV. So I mean,

492
00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:05.680
<v Speaker 1>it definitely can be done. It just has to be

493
00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:07.640
<v Speaker 1>a present that you're setting when you get there. Right.

494
00:25:08.039 --> 00:25:10.640
<v Speaker 1>If you're lu Anne and you're falling in the bushes

495
00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:12.720
<v Speaker 1>and you're super fun with your friends and then you're

496
00:25:12.759 --> 00:25:18.759
<v Speaker 1>sober for a season, she was still interesting to me.

497
00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:21.799
<v Speaker 1>And then when she came on Ultimate girlsrip was a block.

498
00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm drinking wine because I'm in Thailand, Darling. Oh okay,

499
00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:28.119
<v Speaker 1>well I didn't realize that the rules of alcoholism don't

500
00:25:28.119 --> 00:25:31.759
<v Speaker 1>apply in another country. But you know, and then it's

501
00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:34.839
<v Speaker 1>not a dress, which is just gives people things to

502
00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:38.240
<v Speaker 1>talk about when it should be addressed. But I don't know.

503
00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:39.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know how he got off

504
00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:44.480
<v Speaker 1>on that, but Craig, I hate seeing him like drunk

505
00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:44.960
<v Speaker 1>and sweaty.

506
00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:46.960
<v Speaker 2>And maybe, by the way, I just want to say, yeah,

507
00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:52.240
<v Speaker 2>it's only because he said I have addiction issues. Yeah,

508
00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:56.640
<v Speaker 2>the otherwise I have no idea what somebody's sobriety is.

509
00:25:56.720 --> 00:26:01.519
<v Speaker 2>Like I know that someone's totally person, no issue, but

510
00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:06.000
<v Speaker 2>they're saying is that he And by the way, brave

511
00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:08.400
<v Speaker 2>to brave of him for saying that, because I think

512
00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:10.400
<v Speaker 2>that you know, when you're on a reality show, you

513
00:26:10.519 --> 00:26:14.279
<v Speaker 2>kind of two things can be true at one time.

514
00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:17.119
<v Speaker 2>Your ego kind of can be out of control, but

515
00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:20.680
<v Speaker 2>you could also be the most insecure version of yourself too.

516
00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:23.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I agree. Without that, I would never be

517
00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:26.799
<v Speaker 1>on here talking about people's drinking and whatnot if they

518
00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:28.319
<v Speaker 1>hadn't brought it up. Like I have so much to

519
00:26:28.319 --> 00:26:30.359
<v Speaker 1>say about the Kieren yougre thing because I'm just with

520
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:34.119
<v Speaker 1>my mouth open, like, lady, what you know.

521
00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:36.440
<v Speaker 2>I will remember that, Yeah, she had like a lot

522
00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:37.720
<v Speaker 2>of drinks that night, right.

523
00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:41.640
<v Speaker 1>The the Karen and the interview and the denial of

524
00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>it all. Lady you went to jail you got five

525
00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.079
<v Speaker 1>DUI's like, come on, and she's like, well, I don't

526
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:49.440
<v Speaker 1>like to say I'm an alcoholic. I like to blah

527
00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:50.799
<v Speaker 1>blah blah, and I like to go to n A

528
00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:55.599
<v Speaker 1>and not a A. And You're like, huh yeah, So anyway,

529
00:26:55.640 --> 00:27:00.160
<v Speaker 1>that's just that's just another hole to go down. But

530
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.799
<v Speaker 1>so other charm. I'm interested in it, the Charlie and

531
00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Sally of it all. It is pretty interesting to me

532
00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:13.799
<v Speaker 1>in that Sally bugs, like she's a pick me. She bugs,

533
00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:17.599
<v Speaker 1>But it's interesting that they're all like, we told you, Charlie,

534
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:19.640
<v Speaker 1>and you did it anyway, But it's a lesson she

535
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:20.680
<v Speaker 1>had to learn herself. You know.

536
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Somebody can be very charming and you kind of sometimes.

537
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, Sally wanted Greg like bad, yeah yeah, but I

538
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>think she just wants somebody.

539
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:33.319
<v Speaker 2>He's cute. I mean, I get it.

540
00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:36.880
<v Speaker 1>He's very good looking, yeah, very good better looking than

541
00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:39.279
<v Speaker 1>Austin to me, I think.

542
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:41.359
<v Speaker 2>I think Austin's more charming, though.

543
00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather have a conversation with Austin probably.

544
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

545
00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:48.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now the Winner thing, I know you said you

546
00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>had an interview out with him. I'm fascinated by Whitner

547
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:54.119
<v Speaker 1>because he is tall, good looking, has a job, has

548
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:56.799
<v Speaker 1>a home, has a dog, has a nice family. Jimmy

549
00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:59.599
<v Speaker 1>Buffett was his uncle. He's rich, rich, rich, and none

550
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>of the girl.

551
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, he says, he's not rich or trich. He says like,

552
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:05.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a trust fun kid, like I gotta work.

553
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, we get that he works. We see him.

554
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I asked some of the how do you go?

555
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:14.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm just astounded that an attorney would go on a

556
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:16.640
<v Speaker 2>reality TV show, And he said, I think I came

557
00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:20.759
<v Speaker 2>around to it because obviously he went to he went

558
00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:23.759
<v Speaker 2>to law school with Craig, and Craig was close with

559
00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Witner's sister. In fact, like took the sister as a

560
00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:30.599
<v Speaker 2>date some onto some dance or something. So he's known

561
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Craig forever from from law school, and he's known Shep

562
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:38.160
<v Speaker 2>even I think before that, because their families kind of crossover, right, right,

563
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:41.599
<v Speaker 2>So the idea of him coming on the show predates

564
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:43.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot. Yeah, However, he said, I kind of came

565
00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:46.400
<v Speaker 2>around to it for two reasons. One, I'm older, he's

566
00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:49.359
<v Speaker 2>thirty six now, and he also, in addition having this

567
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 2>law practice, he started this other business with a friend

568
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:54.680
<v Speaker 2>and he thought, Okay, maybe that would be good you know,

569
00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:59.079
<v Speaker 2>to kind of got to promote that. And you know,

570
00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:02.839
<v Speaker 2>the thing is, though he's very like like an trained attorney,

571
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:05.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, the sees both sides of the coin, so

572
00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:09.519
<v Speaker 2>he's not over the top, like he's always trying to

573
00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>like come up with a solution. So it makes him

574
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:13.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of out in the sidelines a lot. He also said,

575
00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:17.440
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to date there. I think that there's like

576
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:20.519
<v Speaker 2>a big age disparity. It's like, you know, a lot

577
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:24.480
<v Speaker 2>of young women there because of like College of Charleston. Yeah,

578
00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:28.559
<v Speaker 2>but like everybody gets married so young there that like

579
00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:31.039
<v Speaker 2>once you're like in your thirties, you're sort of like, well,

580
00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:31.880
<v Speaker 2>what's wrong with you?

581
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's better than fucking Ravenel, who's you know in

582
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>his probably totally.

583
00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:38.200
<v Speaker 2>And he also I also asked him, is it hard

584
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:40.200
<v Speaker 2>to date now that you're on the show. Are you

585
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:43.000
<v Speaker 2>second guessing? Like, well, what is this about? He said, yeah, lately,

586
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:45.920
<v Speaker 2>I've really been feeling that a lot. And also he

587
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:50.319
<v Speaker 2>said his two sisters are mortified that he's on the show,

588
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:53.079
<v Speaker 2>and it's actually created a lot of problems.

589
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, his parents seem to be fine with it.

590
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:57.319
<v Speaker 2>They see he said, they're Yeah, but it.

591
00:29:57.319 --> 00:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Was interesting when he was on Watch What Happens Live,

592
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:01.759
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, well, I've no Witner for years,

593
00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:05.039
<v Speaker 1>because of course Andy's good friends with Jane and Jimmy Buffett,

594
00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:07.240
<v Speaker 1>and I would see Whitner around be like, when you're

595
00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>coming on the show? When are you coming on the show.

596
00:30:09.559 --> 00:30:11.480
<v Speaker 1>But I just don't understand why none of the girls

597
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:13.799
<v Speaker 1>are going for Whitner when he seems to have all

598
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:17.039
<v Speaker 1>this stuff going for him and isn't a fall down drunk.

599
00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:22.319
<v Speaker 2>Because he's an asshole, because he's not like, he's not

600
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.240
<v Speaker 2>like powerful with a big Instagram. I gotta you know,

601
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:29.359
<v Speaker 2>we gotta don't forget. Like that's kind of like the

602
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:31.920
<v Speaker 2>problem with Southern charm is. I feel like part of

603
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:34.079
<v Speaker 2>the reason Sally's like a pick me is she wants

604
00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:37.359
<v Speaker 2>to be page two point zero. I want to be

605
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:40.599
<v Speaker 2>like influencers and have a big followings. And he's just

606
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:43.319
<v Speaker 2>not like that. He's not like very self I think

607
00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:45.160
<v Speaker 2>it's probably really hard for him to promote this T

608
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:47.079
<v Speaker 2>shirt business that he is with his friends. He's not

609
00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:49.680
<v Speaker 2>very self promotional. And then I asked him about the

610
00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:52.799
<v Speaker 2>fame stuff and he's like, I mean, these are the

611
00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:55.839
<v Speaker 2>reality stars, Like we're no one like I've been around

612
00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:58.759
<v Speaker 2>big time stars, like it's very easy to keep yourself

613
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:00.960
<v Speaker 2>in check when you remember, or like these are just

614
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:03.960
<v Speaker 2>reality stars. So he's probably a little bit of a

615
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:06.359
<v Speaker 2>buzzkill for somebody who's like, let's go out and we

616
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:08.640
<v Speaker 2>can be a we can be like a couple like

617
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Page and Craig.

618
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>We'll find a different girl. I don't know. I just

619
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:14.640
<v Speaker 1>am always like, why aren't all the girls going for Whitner.

620
00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't get it because I don't. I don't think

621
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>the girls on that show want to be with like

622
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>a normal guy, just any girl, any nice, normal thirty

623
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:24.240
<v Speaker 1>ish age appropriate.

624
00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:26.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there are girls that are trying to go

625
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:29.039
<v Speaker 2>out with him. He just doesn't talk about it, Okay,

626
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:31.759
<v Speaker 2>maybe sad like your son wouldn't talk about it either.

627
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:35.559
<v Speaker 2>He would tell me, he would tell you, but he

628
00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:38.359
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be on TV going I got these girls and

629
00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:40.160
<v Speaker 2>they're all over me. That's not his son.

630
00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:42.079
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, no, he wouldn't. If he ever

631
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>said that, he would be like joking.

632
00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Nor would my son, my son's fourteen, but he wouldn't either.

633
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:54.599
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Beverly Hills. This week, I was interested in Erica

634
00:31:54.720 --> 00:32:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Jane talking to her therapist about she was talking about

635
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:03.880
<v Speaker 1>the abuse, but I the money mess with Tom and

636
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, she hasn't talked about it in details, and

637
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:07.480
<v Speaker 1>she talks about how she handled it in the past,

638
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:10.160
<v Speaker 1>which is awful. We all can agree that she was

639
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:14.359
<v Speaker 1>terrible about that and because of her shock and you know,

640
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:19.000
<v Speaker 1>just the situation, and she was saying, you know, he

641
00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>left me with this ten million dollar bill and I've

642
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:25.359
<v Speaker 1>got twenty five million worth of lawsuits against me, like

643
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>that is so overwhelming to think about. No matter what,

644
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>you can have Witner, Jimmy Buffett money, and still that's

645
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of That's a lot to think about it.

646
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I was very interested to hear her sort of openly

647
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>saying like I'm just tired, Like yeah, yeah, you think

648
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I wonder why I'm not going to see this asshole,

649
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Like look at this mess.

650
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I wish she was like that from the beginning. But

651
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.160
<v Speaker 2>I guess if you live in survival mode your whole life,

652
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:55.119
<v Speaker 2>it's hard for you to turn that volume down too.

653
00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, And I do hope that she's got this new, nice,

654
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:05.440
<v Speaker 1>normalish boyfriend that'll maybe keep her grounded. I don't know why,

655
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:08.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, even when she was being an asshole, I'm like, well,

656
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:09.480
<v Speaker 1>she's entertaining, you know.

657
00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess I feel like she needs to be

658
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:18.839
<v Speaker 2>off TV, but she really needs the income.

659
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Not gonna happen. I thought the scene with Rachel and

660
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:25.519
<v Speaker 1>her kids was interesting talking about the divorce, and you

661
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:27.960
<v Speaker 1>could tell the older one, you know, because of the

662
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:30.359
<v Speaker 1>kid's ages and us being familiar with that, you could

663
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>tell that the older one was not going to like

664
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:34.640
<v Speaker 1>engage so much in the conversation as the younger one

665
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:37.559
<v Speaker 1>would because it's on TV. But it was interesting that

666
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.480
<v Speaker 1>they were He was sitting there and they were like, oh,

667
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>you just don't love dad anymore. And she was like no,

668
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>it was interesting, you know. She was like it became

669
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>news and the older kids like that's wild. It was

670
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>in the news, Like.

671
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't know I feel about it. I'm kind

672
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:54.200
<v Speaker 2>of mixed because I'm thinking about ten years from now,

673
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:57.000
<v Speaker 2>this kid, these kids are going to be like to me,

674
00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:59.119
<v Speaker 2>really have to talk about that on camera because now

675
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:01.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm asked about it all the time, And now I'm

676
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:03.400
<v Speaker 2>twenty five years old and I'm just trying to start

677
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:03.960
<v Speaker 2>my career.

678
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think they live in such a

679
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:08.280
<v Speaker 1>different world, Kate. I think they live in such a

680
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:12.519
<v Speaker 1>world of they've always had these famous parents, and they've

681
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:15.440
<v Speaker 1>always had this, you know, and they might hang out

682
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:17.760
<v Speaker 1>with a lot of other kids that also have parents

683
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:19.960
<v Speaker 1>in the spotlight, and that's sort of more normal for

684
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:24.719
<v Speaker 1>them than it would be for other people. You know. Yeah,

685
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:27.400
<v Speaker 1>that's my thought process. But I thought it was interesting.

686
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:29.159
<v Speaker 1>And I think that she seems to have a good

687
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>relationship with her kids.

688
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:32.079
<v Speaker 2>And she seems like a good mom.

689
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, And I thought it was fascinating that she's like,

690
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.360
<v Speaker 1>my husband's been with this other woman, you know, for

691
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:42.119
<v Speaker 1>a while, never brought this woman around the kids ever.

692
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:45.360
<v Speaker 1>And then when the one kid's going to camp and

693
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:47.719
<v Speaker 1>dad's you know, coming to say goodbye, and then he

694
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:50.559
<v Speaker 1>brings this woman and he's like, who's this stranger, I'm

695
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:51.800
<v Speaker 1>leaving to go to camp for a month.

696
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:56.159
<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, I would assume her fear is it's a

697
00:34:56.199 --> 00:34:58.960
<v Speaker 2>slippery slope, Like it begins with the oh, this is

698
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:02.079
<v Speaker 2>my friend Alyssa. I don't know what her name is,

699
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:05.840
<v Speaker 2>and in a very short time, after all of a sudden,

700
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.320
<v Speaker 2>they're being forced to live with her. Maybe she has

701
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:12.480
<v Speaker 2>kids too, and then their entire safety of their home

702
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:16.679
<v Speaker 2>and feeling like their home is theirs becomes this stranger's home.

703
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's it's I thought it was interesting.

704
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>She's like he had always been doing the right thing

705
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:24.719
<v Speaker 1>and never brought this woman around, or you know, we

706
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:26.920
<v Speaker 1>agreed we would talk to each other about it first,

707
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:29.800
<v Speaker 1>and then he just brings her to say goodbye at

708
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:30.719
<v Speaker 1>camp drop off.

709
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:34.679
<v Speaker 2>It could be that lady going, well, yeah, you know,

710
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:36.639
<v Speaker 2>where am I what's going on? Like are we going

711
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:38.360
<v Speaker 2>to live together? When? Am I gonna meet your kids?

712
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:41.679
<v Speaker 2>And then suddenly the agreement that he had with Rachel's

713
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:43.280
<v Speaker 2>thrown out the door, and he's trying to make this

714
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:46.000
<v Speaker 2>woman happy. Maybe he's afraid she's gonna leave home or something.

715
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:49.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's crazy too. You think about like the two

716
00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:53.239
<v Speaker 1>of them been together since college. Yeah, and he's going

717
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:56.000
<v Speaker 1>to jump right into another relationship. It seems he'd pull

718
00:35:56.039 --> 00:35:58.519
<v Speaker 1>a Mauricio and just go catting around with whoever.

719
00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:02.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Sure, Rachel's like, who are you? I thought I

720
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:04.360
<v Speaker 2>knew who you were. It was sad.

721
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:06.559
<v Speaker 1>It was interesting too, about her bringing in her family

722
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:10.199
<v Speaker 1>to say like they've loved him like a child and

723
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:12.960
<v Speaker 1>they are devastated by what he's done. You know, that's

724
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:16.199
<v Speaker 1>an interesting aspect that we don't always see on these shows, right,

725
00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:20.039
<v Speaker 1>we don't see we don't see the Mauricio and Kyle

726
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:22.920
<v Speaker 1>the other side of it, where their families are so close,

727
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:24.280
<v Speaker 1>and that's.

728
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:28.840
<v Speaker 2>In their Jewish family, and my Jewish friends have such

729
00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:32.440
<v Speaker 2>tight relationships with their parents and their in laws.

730
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Like Relio or a Jewish family too.

731
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:39.519
<v Speaker 2>You're right, but I feel like, well, she converted. I

732
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:42.920
<v Speaker 2>find that the families like it's to both families are Jewish,

733
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:46.679
<v Speaker 2>like anevibly all hear oh, our parents are best friends

734
00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:49.280
<v Speaker 2>and they go on vacations together. And I always laugh

735
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:51.559
<v Speaker 2>about that. I'm like, oh my gosh, like Protestants, that

736
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:52.440
<v Speaker 2>would never happen.

737
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Nice.

738
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I think it's very very intertwined. And so it's that's

739
00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:02.239
<v Speaker 2>so painful because this husband, her husband was so so

740
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:04.280
<v Speaker 2>much a part of their lives. Again, you're looking at

741
00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:05.440
<v Speaker 2>someone like I thought I.

742
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:08.639
<v Speaker 1>Knew you, right, and then the parents would be like

743
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>we thought we And now you're acting like this, and

744
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:13.960
<v Speaker 1>you've got these kids who don't want to be around you,

745
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:16.800
<v Speaker 1>like when did this happen? And you feel like this

746
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:19.920
<v Speaker 1>person that has been at your table for thirty years

747
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:20.840
<v Speaker 1>is a total stranger.

748
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:26.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, also very hard to be the Antillery family members,

749
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:30.039
<v Speaker 2>and I've been there before, trust me, where you have

750
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:34.239
<v Speaker 2>to be very careful to never say anything negative about Yes,

751
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:35.440
<v Speaker 2>the children's parents.

752
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:37.760
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, you have to keep.

753
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Your feelings to yourself and you do not burden a

754
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:43.599
<v Speaker 2>child with your feelings about their parents.

755
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:49.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Kyle and Jeripe thing, I kind of don't

756
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:53.239
<v Speaker 1>mind them calling each other out. I think it's I

757
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:55.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, like Kyla calling Bo's and being like she's

758
00:37:55.679 --> 00:37:59.440
<v Speaker 1>got this spending issue, and the Bow's telling Jari like, actually,

759
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't take it as her talking bad about you.

760
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I like I took it as her being concerned about you.

761
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:07.719
<v Speaker 1>And Dree It's like, well, when she you know, basically

762
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:11.719
<v Speaker 1>turned lesbian started exercising into tattoos, I didn't say anything.

763
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:13.159
<v Speaker 1>It's like what you're saying it.

764
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Now, those are two different things, right, Yeah, Like you're

765
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:22.159
<v Speaker 2>you're transforming into a different version of yourself because you're

766
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:25.119
<v Speaker 2>having a life crisis, or you are a horder and

767
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:28.000
<v Speaker 2>you have an addiction issue, a spending issue.

768
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did. It was when she was at Love

769
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Chef Fantasy in the Hamptons and she spent the five

770
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:38.679
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars in the first credit card was declined and

771
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:40.079
<v Speaker 1>she's like, oh, I have to wait for the code,

772
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:41.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, because they send you a code to say

773
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>was it huge? Oh they didn't send it. Let me

774
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:49.199
<v Speaker 1>just try another card. I was like, yeah, Peek doesn't

775
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:49.719
<v Speaker 1>look good.

776
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:53.639
<v Speaker 2>We never see her really, with the exception of one

777
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:56.599
<v Speaker 2>scene with Bose. You never really go into Durrey's house.

778
00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:58.920
<v Speaker 2>So if she has a spending problem, I want to see,

779
00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:02.599
<v Speaker 2>like is there the it's full like their boxes outside.

780
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:05.519
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they aren't. Maybe it's not as bad as it

781
00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:07.280
<v Speaker 2>it's mean to seem, right.

782
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:11.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well I think it was interesting too that Durite

783
00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:14.639
<v Speaker 1>said Kyle is saying, you're basically saying something on camera

784
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:18.079
<v Speaker 1>that could affect my divorce, right, like by calling out

785
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:19.800
<v Speaker 1>that I have a spending issue. And that's kind of

786
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:22.000
<v Speaker 1>what they're doing on this show, is that there is

787
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:25.079
<v Speaker 1>that they're showing how they live and went to the

788
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:26.679
<v Speaker 1>Hamptons and they go spend all this money at the

789
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:28.400
<v Speaker 1>store desk, and then for Kyle to kind of be

790
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:32.440
<v Speaker 1>calling it out, She's like, that's actually going to be

791
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:33.880
<v Speaker 1>against me that she says.

792
00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:38.360
<v Speaker 2>It seems she calls her husband an alcoholic, So like

793
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:43.840
<v Speaker 2>ing alcoholic again, back to our earlier point. Unless somebody

794
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:46.519
<v Speaker 2>announces that they're an alcoholic, I would not be calling

795
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:47.360
<v Speaker 2>them an alcoholic.

796
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I believe he did say he had a drinking problem.

797
00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Nope. Never Well, when.

798
00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:56.400
<v Speaker 1>They went to that dinner that time where they clearly

799
00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:59.239
<v Speaker 1>hated each other, he wasn't drinking and she's like, do

800
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:00.800
<v Speaker 1>you mind if I drink? He's like, I don't care.

801
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:02.800
<v Speaker 1>They talked about AA and the stuff.

802
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:05.400
<v Speaker 2>He has never said he's an alcoholic.

803
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Well he's out partying now, so there you go.

804
00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:11.719
<v Speaker 2>Does that mean they're an alcoholic? Though?

805
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Uh, it doesn't. But I don't think she pulled that

806
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:19.480
<v Speaker 1>out of her ass, do you know what I mean?

807
00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I think we saw that he has some kind of problem.

808
00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I think my opinion that he seems to me to

809
00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:29.239
<v Speaker 1>have some sort of problem. Now, maybe his problem stemmed

810
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:32.199
<v Speaker 1>from her, you know, maybe he was like, I gotta

811
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:34.440
<v Speaker 1>eat chips and get drunkcause she drives you crazy.

812
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:34.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

813
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't you know. I'm not a giant PK fan.

814
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I know that you are more of a PK apologist

815
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:43.280
<v Speaker 1>than I am. I don't enjoy him.

816
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say I'm an apologist. It's just I've heard

817
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:47.920
<v Speaker 2>his side of the story a little bit more so

818
00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:50.920
<v Speaker 2>I try to look at it from both sides, because

819
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:55.159
<v Speaker 2>the fortunate part is it's just a woman's point of view. Yeah,

820
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:57.719
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes, you know, I try to be mindful of that,

821
00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:01.320
<v Speaker 2>like you know, the other there is another side of

822
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:03.440
<v Speaker 2>the coin and all of this. You saw that a

823
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:07.840
<v Speaker 2>lot when you saw Mauricio's show on Netflix with his daughters,

824
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:11.440
<v Speaker 2>because and then you're like, oh, well, there is a

825
00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:14.440
<v Speaker 2>whole life outside of just the narrow point of view

826
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:18.719
<v Speaker 2>of the housewife. Although I love housewives because that point

827
00:41:18.719 --> 00:41:21.519
<v Speaker 2>of view is rarely shown and in any other media form,

828
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:24.440
<v Speaker 2>like you don't see it in movies. A fifty year

829
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:27.519
<v Speaker 2>old woman is not really the featured character of a

830
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:29.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of TV shows and movies. So I do I

831
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:31.599
<v Speaker 2>love that, but I also know that there is like

832
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:32.880
<v Speaker 2>the other side of it.

833
00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I got to say that Bo's just sort of openly

834
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:43.400
<v Speaker 1>really hating Amanda is giving me life. I think it's

835
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:46.880
<v Speaker 1>pretty hilarious. I think it's pretty hilarious. And I go

836
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<v Speaker 1>back to that scene at.

837
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<v Speaker 2>Like corporate life versus you know somebody who like somebody

838
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<v Speaker 2>who's telling you that they're so big, they're such a

839
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:00.159
<v Speaker 2>big deal in business, and you're like, okay, we're where

840
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<v Speaker 2>are all the articles about you? We're all the client

841
00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:06.800
<v Speaker 2>testimonials that are not like a suburban person who has

842
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<v Speaker 2>like a it's like a personal trainer, like what's your

843
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:13.719
<v Speaker 2>corporate relevance? I love that because that's anybody who's worked

844
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:15.800
<v Speaker 2>in corporate America's like, yeah, let's dig into that.

845
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<v Speaker 1>I love the scene and I've brought this up several

846
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<v Speaker 1>times of Bo's and Rachel Zoe and what goes around

847
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:24.800
<v Speaker 1>comes around. The store in La that I went to

848
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:27.639
<v Speaker 1>last time I was there had the same salesperson, and

849
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<v Speaker 1>I love the scene of them in that store and

850
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<v Speaker 1>Bose is trying to explain to Rachel what Amanda does.

851
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<v Speaker 1>And these are two like business women, yes, and Rachel's going,

852
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<v Speaker 1>I don't get it, and she goes, she teaches you

853
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<v Speaker 1>how to manifest money and she goes, but I don't

854
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:47.559
<v Speaker 1>get it. I thought, wait, she's a manifesto. She's like, yeah,

855
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:49.400
<v Speaker 1>she wrote a book on manifest and she's like, I

856
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:51.280
<v Speaker 1>don't get it. And it was like who's on first,

857
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Like she's trying to explain it to her. She's like

858
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<v Speaker 1>but how's that her business? And Bo's like, I don't know,

859
00:42:57.320 --> 00:43:00.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, and seeing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like a preacher telling the congregants like,

861
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<v Speaker 2>if you just pray, all of a sudden, you're gonna

862
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<v Speaker 2>have money in your bank account.

863
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<v Speaker 1>Well there are preachers that say that, and it's horrible. Yeah,

864
00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:12.920
<v Speaker 1>like if you just if you just pray about it

865
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<v Speaker 1>and you just are act right, the money will come

866
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:17.840
<v Speaker 1>to you. Well, lots of people pray and act right.

867
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:21.199
<v Speaker 1>And are you know homeless, dead broke? I mean, so

868
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:23.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, un hoow's you're supposed to say?

869
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<v Speaker 2>Kate?

870
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:28.960
<v Speaker 1>So I find that super interesting. Okay, did you watch

871
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<v Speaker 1>The Persian Valley?

872
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:33.199
<v Speaker 2>I haven't watched it in a little bit, so you

873
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<v Speaker 2>need to catch me up. Although I really like the

874
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:38.840
<v Speaker 2>new cast cast of characters. I find them interesting.

875
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many episodes there were, but I

876
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<v Speaker 1>do know that I didn't watch the last three, and

877
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.000
<v Speaker 1>because I was like traveling and stuff and trying to

878
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:48.639
<v Speaker 1>keep up with work, I didn't get a chance. But

879
00:43:48.639 --> 00:43:51.679
<v Speaker 1>they're on my DVR, so I am going to watch

880
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:56.519
<v Speaker 1>the last three. I liked it. I speaking of reality gold,

881
00:43:56.719 --> 00:44:00.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, like anity leaks or a phaedra Reza. He's

882
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:03.239
<v Speaker 1>made for reality TV. He really is. He's great.

883
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:08.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm still troubled by him saying such awful things to

884
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<v Speaker 2>MJ years ago about terminating and pregnancy. I can't get

885
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<v Speaker 2>past it.

886
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:16.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But the I think that

887
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:19.599
<v Speaker 1>that original Shaws group got so caught up in their

888
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:23.119
<v Speaker 1>fame and there's being on a show and everything. I

889
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:25.480
<v Speaker 1>think that a lot of them were taken down mini

890
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:29.639
<v Speaker 1>pegs when the show was canceled, and I think that

891
00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:32.519
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them had to sort of pull themselves

892
00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:35.119
<v Speaker 1>up by their bootstraps and try to live in the

893
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:38.320
<v Speaker 1>world not being on reality TV. So I think that

894
00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:42.039
<v Speaker 1>Persian Valley sort of highlighted that a little bit, you know.

895
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<v Speaker 1>And I liked it a lot. I like again, I'm

896
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<v Speaker 1>behind a few episodes, I think three, and they had

897
00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:52.000
<v Speaker 1>the finale. But I did like the cast. I liked

898
00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the good looking guys. I like the one I've had

899
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<v Speaker 1>the interesting story about his wife had passed.

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00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Away, so I interviewed it's lovely, Yeah you know his wife. Yeah.

901
00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I liked them a lot. So if you guys don't know,

902
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:10.119
<v Speaker 1>if you live under a rock, Kate has a substack

903
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:14.480
<v Speaker 1>called what to watch this week? Yeah, to watch lists.

904
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:17.079
<v Speaker 1>You can see it on reels, you can see it

905
00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:19.440
<v Speaker 1>on TikTok, you can see everywhere. You can subscribe.

906
00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:22.880
<v Speaker 2>It's very important that people do that. Like, oh, you

907
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:25.960
<v Speaker 2>just go to Kateksey dot substack dot com and you

908
00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:28.199
<v Speaker 2>just put your email in it because you get every

909
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:29.760
<v Speaker 2>week you get that list. But I also have like

910
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:32.960
<v Speaker 2>lots of other stuff on There are books to recommend. Yeah,

911
00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:34.400
<v Speaker 2>articles I've written.

912
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>As you've written, and stuff like that. So tell me

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00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:40.880
<v Speaker 1>what are we watching? Okay, and then kind of next

914
00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:42.400
<v Speaker 1>week too, because this comes out Thursday.

915
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Well I can tell you about this week right now.

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00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, okay, here are a couple of things I want

917
00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:50.559
<v Speaker 2>you to watch. Okay. Number one obviously Love is Blind

918
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:52.800
<v Speaker 2>the Reunion. We're all gonna be watching that, and we're walking.

919
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:56.159
<v Speaker 2>Can't wait for that. Yeah, okay, three part doc series

920
00:45:56.199 --> 00:46:01.119
<v Speaker 2>on Apple TV Plus. It's called Twisted Yoga. And there

921
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:07.039
<v Speaker 2>are a group of yoga studios that were throughout Europe.

922
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<v Speaker 2>They had different names, same organization, but different names in

923
00:46:10.679 --> 00:46:14.320
<v Speaker 2>each country and they were all created by this man

924
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:19.719
<v Speaker 2>named Gregorian Bivalaro or the Or. The practitioners would call

925
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.679
<v Speaker 2>him Greek and he became this like you go, you

926
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:28.239
<v Speaker 2>go guru figure, and he was from Romania during the

927
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:32.760
<v Speaker 2>collapse of communism. He created these yoga centers and people

928
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<v Speaker 2>flocked to it because obviously the light in the darkness.

929
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<v Speaker 2>Here's the caveat he and it's like this esoteric it's

930
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:47.559
<v Speaker 2>like yoga with this esoteric TNTRA aspect to it. So

931
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:50.800
<v Speaker 2>you're getting women to come in and then they're taking

932
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<v Speaker 2>classes and then they want to be teachers, and it's

933
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<v Speaker 2>this two year process and it's part of the teaching.

934
00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, once you're comfortable, he's throwing in, you know,

935
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:02.400
<v Speaker 2>all this TNTRA stuff that you should be doing, and

936
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<v Speaker 2>then you are being pushed to have these sexual experiences,

937
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:08.880
<v Speaker 2>like all the women have to kind of like hook

938
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:11.800
<v Speaker 2>up with each other kind of thing. Yes, and then

939
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:15.719
<v Speaker 2>it turns into oh, but they're talking about him like this,

940
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:19.440
<v Speaker 2>this figure, like this ball of energy. Well have you

941
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:21.440
<v Speaker 2>ever met him? Would you be interested in meeting him?

942
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:24.000
<v Speaker 2>And then it turns into oh, you're gonna be going

943
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:25.719
<v Speaker 2>to France to get to meet him. And then when

944
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:29.599
<v Speaker 2>you go there, your your passport's confiscated and then you

945
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:31.639
<v Speaker 2>have to have sex with them. Oh the other thing

946
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:33.599
<v Speaker 2>the women would have to like all it was like

947
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:37.239
<v Speaker 2>almost like an orgy. They would all have to pee

948
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:40.920
<v Speaker 2>into like a bucket, and then they would take like

949
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:43.480
<v Speaker 2>a dropper and then you would have to they would

950
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:46.599
<v Speaker 2>put like little droplets of the pee in your water

951
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:51.880
<v Speaker 2>to hydrate you because it's a shared you know thing

952
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:57.159
<v Speaker 2>from everyone's right throw it's bonkers anyway. It's three episodes

953
00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:01.159
<v Speaker 2>because it's because it kind of breaks down like a

954
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:06.760
<v Speaker 2>true crime series, but it's also kind of experiential because

955
00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:09.599
<v Speaker 2>they all these victims kind of walk through how they

956
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:11.920
<v Speaker 2>get sucked sucked into it, like a lot of it

957
00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:14.559
<v Speaker 2>does kind of have the feeling of like anxium thing.

958
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it sounds a lot like this podcast

959
00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm listening to that I just got finished with. I

960
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:21.960
<v Speaker 1>think it's called Garden of Evil, and it's about this

961
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Zion cult of Zion that was sort of in these

962
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:28.119
<v Speaker 1>neighborhoods in Utah, and it was these like super manicured

963
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:31.079
<v Speaker 1>like Disneyland. Like it was like you would turn the

964
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:33.440
<v Speaker 1>corner and be like whoa, and did I go into

965
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:36.719
<v Speaker 1>a theme park? And all the houses look so perfect,

966
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:39.800
<v Speaker 1>but like one house is where they keep all the weapons,

967
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:42.280
<v Speaker 1>and another house is where they keep all the food

968
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:47.480
<v Speaker 1>for you know, six ways. And then there's one leader.

969
00:48:48.159 --> 00:48:53.639
<v Speaker 1>And then of course eventually everybody's gotta being that guy. Yeah,

970
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:57.360
<v Speaker 1>even the children. Oh boy, wowser's okay. And then they

971
00:48:57.360 --> 00:48:59.480
<v Speaker 1>take the children away from the parents and those children

972
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<v Speaker 1>live in one.

973
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<v Speaker 2>House okay, and then he can go to the house.

974
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, it's an it's similar except their children involved,

975
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:10.960
<v Speaker 1>which is terrible. But it was all about how it

976
00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:13.199
<v Speaker 1>all got, how they got the guy and how they

977
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:17.599
<v Speaker 1>got into like but okay, Apple TV twist So Apple.

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<v Speaker 2>TV three three episodes is called Twisted Yoga. I really

979
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:26.559
<v Speaker 2>highly recommend on Netflix Dynasty the Murdochs about Rupert Murdoch

980
00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:32.960
<v Speaker 2>and his three kids. Watching I was like, I know

981
00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:36.159
<v Speaker 2>you thought I'd mean, I know everybody thought that, but no,

982
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:43.679
<v Speaker 2>this is about the finance and media family. Okay, highly fascinating.

983
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<v Speaker 2>I mean a boy was his wife just a knockout

984
00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:51.000
<v Speaker 2>his first wife and what you went through Anna Tour No,

985
00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:55.679
<v Speaker 2>actually she's the second wife. Prudence was the first second one, Prudence, No,

986
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:57.719
<v Speaker 2>that was the daughter he was married a first time

987
00:49:57.719 --> 00:49:59.519
<v Speaker 2>that he married Anna Tour who was a model, and

988
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:02.039
<v Speaker 2>then she had Alauchlann James, and Elizabeth.

989
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:02.679
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.

990
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:05.079
<v Speaker 2>So it's going to go through the family's history and

991
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:08.119
<v Speaker 2>then it's like succession. It is succession. Okay, so I

992
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<v Speaker 2>highly recommend that too. I have found that to be

993
00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:13.960
<v Speaker 2>most interesting. Now I haven't watched yet. When people say

994
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:16.400
<v Speaker 2>it was on my list the expose on the Doctor

995
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Phil show, but it's on the E network, so I

996
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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

997
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I've heard that's good as well. I'm kind of like

998
00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I've watched Doctor Phil for all those years, so I

999
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:29.559
<v Speaker 1>need to watch this show.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Well, it's kind of sad too, because

1001
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Oprah put him on a pedestal.

1002
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:40.039
<v Speaker 1>I know. But listen, don't you dare say anything bad

1003
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<v Speaker 1>about Mike Queen Oprah. Don't you dare? Don't you dare? Okay, now,

1004
00:50:48.199 --> 00:50:51.760
<v Speaker 1>remind everybody about your show again. Where to find your

1005
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:53.840
<v Speaker 1>subseec or with your list all the things, let's.

1006
00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Hear it, Okay. Reality Life with Kay Casey podcast six

1007
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<v Speaker 2>days a week Monday, I tell you what to watch, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

1008
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Friday interviews with executive producers, directors, and talent. Saturday episodes

1009
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:09.679
<v Speaker 2>are with Somebody Who's Got a great personal story this

1010
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:12.480
<v Speaker 2>week is actually a classmate of mine from the Milton

1011
00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Hershey School who works for Google and he does all

1012
00:51:17.960 --> 00:51:21.599
<v Speaker 2>the AI stuff. He's the Stanford professor. He wrote a

1013
00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:26.199
<v Speaker 2>book about resilience, so like why some people who have

1014
00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:31.840
<v Speaker 2>really hard childhoods are resilient and successful. And then next

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00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:34.800
<v Speaker 2>after week after that, I have Corey Larkin who actually

1016
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:37.320
<v Speaker 2>lived like in the next neighborhood and she is a

1017
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:44.159
<v Speaker 2>self made chef or cook and exploded on Instagram and

1018
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:47.760
<v Speaker 2>just the kind of like how that happened? Okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>in addition, Katekasey dot substack dot com, you get the

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00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:53.199
<v Speaker 2>list of all the things to watch each week, So

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00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:55.280
<v Speaker 2>you're going to be the most fun person at a

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00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:57.440
<v Speaker 2>dinner party because you'll have so much to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, and next week they're up. They start the Untold

1025
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<v Speaker 2>series Untold Stories and sports. So like, let's say you're

1026
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<v Speaker 2>not really a sports person. You're going to go to

1027
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<v Speaker 2>a party or go to dinner with your spouse or

1028
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:13.119
<v Speaker 2>your coworkers or whatever, and then you start talking about

1029
00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the Untold episode that week. They're going to think that

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<v Speaker 2>you're pretty fantastic.

1031
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:20.519
<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you, Okay, all right, Kate's trying to

1032
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<v Speaker 1>help you.

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<v Speaker 2>Into the podcasts and check me out on Instagram at

1034
00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:28.880
<v Speaker 2>kk Cca, TikTok It's Kksey, Twitter threads, and Blue Sky

1035
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<v Speaker 2>at k Casey.

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<v Speaker 1>Kate and I also had a limited series that appeared

1037
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<v Speaker 1>on her Patreon and my Prime uh called Tell Me Everything,

1038
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:41.039
<v Speaker 1>where each week we alternated telling each other an interesting

1039
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<v Speaker 1>story and there were stories about our lives. You're just

1040
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<v Speaker 1>stories that were like murder stories that we were interested in.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll probably bring it back in the summer.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was I gotta tell you, I got it.

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<v Speaker 2>I got one for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't say it.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you to high school. I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you the one that I was thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>because I want you told me and I'm excited. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to a pre plan if we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it this summer, we had a pre planet. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to get through this. You know, Love is Blind

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<v Speaker 1>UK is coming in August.

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<v Speaker 2>So, oh, do you think it's going to be as

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<v Speaker 2>good as this last season? Because I highly I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was highly entertaining the Ohio. I thought it was

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00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:17.719
<v Speaker 2>really entertaining.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait for the reunion. Now while we've been recording,

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<v Speaker 1>they had a thing that came out at twelve thirty

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<v Speaker 1>where you could watch all the reunion and stuff early.

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<v Speaker 1>I did RSVP for it, So I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>that means I'm going to go to link and I

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<v Speaker 1>can watch it early. Otherwise it's on at nine pm

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<v Speaker 1>tonight Wednesday night. My recap of Kisha will be out

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<v Speaker 1>sometime afternoon on Thursday night nine pm.

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<v Speaker 2>That meaning like for you, I can watch that at

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00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:48.840
<v Speaker 2>six correct. Wow. See ye just have to watch it

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<v Speaker 2>in the phone or on my phone in the car

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<v Speaker 2>because I have to do like dance pickups and stupid stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that you would ever watch something while you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Driving, No, no, no, no, When you're like sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>the parking lot, you're like waiting, Like she's got a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty minute practice. Is that the dumbest thing you've ever heard?

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<v Speaker 1>It is because it's that's thirty minutes of driving to

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<v Speaker 1>do a thirty minute practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you just sit in the car and you wait. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like the good people listening to know that

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<v Speaker 2>so many of your listeners are so funny. Yes, the

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<v Speaker 2>comments that they leave in your Facebook group. I will

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<v Speaker 2>be sitting at a dance competition this weekend and I

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<v Speaker 2>will be in your group and just reading through stuff

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<v Speaker 2>because I have the time to sit and really just

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy the hilarity of the astute of observationalists. The listeners

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<v Speaker 2>of Pink Shade podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they are funny.

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<v Speaker 2>They are on me.

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<v Speaker 1>They put stuff out there. I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hilarious because the shows that we cover in the

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<v Speaker 1>ninety Day, the Love Jog, the people are just so

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<v Speaker 1>wild that you just like, what else are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to do?

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<v Speaker 2>But laugh? What else are you going to do? Also,

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<v Speaker 2>your listeners have had vibes well lived. And when you

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<v Speaker 2>have life well lived, you notice stuff that other people don't.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is the best part, the funniest, amazing. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>to a life well lived that lines on your face,

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<v Speaker 2>lots of friends, it experiences, and you know all the

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<v Speaker 2>things that come when you have a life well lived,

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<v Speaker 2>the ups, the downs, the pain, the victory, all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with all that. I'm trying to get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of the lines on my face. But other than that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, everybody, make sure you're following Kate and make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you subscribe to her substack so you can get

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<v Speaker 1>the what to watch list because it comes to my inbox,

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<v Speaker 1>and even though I could just call you and ask you,

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy reading it on my inbox.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, bye, Thanks,