Speaker 1: It's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do this. Welcome to
the Game as the Sides podcast.
Speaker 2: This is the podcast where we decide everything about the
world of games. You never have to think for yourself.
I'm your host Jeff Grubbin. With me is Mike Manati.
In today's episode, people Hate Shattered Space DLC ferstart. I
just wrote that before I really knew what we were
gonna do today. Listen, not much is going on. I
took today off, so the entire industry took, you know,
news off, and I think that's very thoughtful and considered
of them.
Speaker 1: We do have an update on our guessing game for
Open Critic right. We have that.
Speaker 2: We'll probably we'll have to pick new games. Is that
how it works? Because we have the results, We'll probably
get the results in the new games. And I also
found a new top ten list for us to fix.
All the fixed list is in everybody Okay, I'm looking
forward to that.
Speaker 1: But first, Mike Manati, how are you doing good?
Speaker 3: I'm ready for the weekend, starting to cool off a
little bitter. I went to that aw show yesterday. That
was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: It was a good time. I'm glad you had a
good time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was the five year anniversary of Dynamite show, and I,
like most aw shows, it went too long because like
they at the film ram page and Ring of Honor
stuff also. But on the bright side, when it was
the Ring of Honor main event, which was like the
last thing they filmed at like midnight or whatever, me
and my buddy just like went down to the floor
and kind of you know, sat like three rows behind
the ring. So that was a cool experience. That really
did that before.
Speaker 2: And you got your tickets for a joker folio. Dude, right,
you're ready? Yeah, man, you're a musical, you love musical.
Speaker 3: You could dragged me to it. I not see the
first one. At least everyone hates this one. I also
had no interest in the last one. But I had
to hear like a lot of friends and family tell
me how like deep and amazing it was. As well,
I saw Mike, and I could tell you it was
not you saw it. Yeah yeah, So at some point,
why didn't go to the theater and the first one?
Speaker 1: The first one?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, And I honestly I think I might
have torn to the first one anyhow.
Speaker 1: But I yeah, I think I was like Yep, that's.
Speaker 2: Just kind of boring, is what it was. I don't
really remember much of it now. I am morbidly curious
about this one, though, because it does seem like it's
heading for a brick wall at one hundred miles an hour.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that happens.
Speaker 3: So somehow all my friends get morbidly curious about my
bad movies. I do too sometimes, but SPX certain kind
like you've all seen Megalopolis or are planning too, I guess, yeah,
yeah you can't. I mean, as soon as everyone said
that Borderlands was horrible, that's when you like had to
go out and see it. I do get it. I
used to be more more more into that myself. It's
funny because, like, because of my general disinterest in movies
even extends to my old love of watching bad movies.
I don't even want to do that as much anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get I think I'm just in the mood
for that. Part of it is it's fun to write
the negative letterboxed.
Speaker 1: Review like that clearly is part of it for me
these days.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and you're like, you want to be part
of the social media trend for Megalopolis, and I bet
I be this weekend would be a.
Speaker 4: Lot of fun.
Speaker 3: The worst sentence you've ever said, And you want to
be a part of the social media trend for megalopolis?
Speaker 2: Yeah, on the good social media network letter box without it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. But yeah, it's it's a bit.
It's a problem for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The real thing that I have to look forward to
is on Monday, We're going to a baseball game. The
Tigers and the Guardians are playing against one another in
the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. It's gonna be a good time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how cool is that. I don't think I've ever
actually I might. I most think I've ever been to
a playoff game, but there was one it might be
a better World Series game I was gonna go to,
and it was pretty early on my crones and my
crones was acting up, so I didn't go. It's fine though,
because they never, you know, won those World Series or anything,
so so yeah, this will be great. It's gonna really
remind me back when we went to the nineties and
it was always packed at the where the Guardians play
because they had like the sellout streak forever when they
were an amazing team in the nineties, and you know
these days they okay, you know, decent crowds sometimes, but
a lot of times it's not so decent. So it'll
be fun to just see that place packed again.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's gonna probably be a very good atmosphere,
really looking forward to It'll be that should be game two,
so it's like nothing will be settled to that point.
Speaker 1: Anything is possible.
Speaker 3: Still, it'll be should come up with a bet of
some kind.
Speaker 2: Yes, open to suggestions everybody, but yeah, some kind of
fun friendly bet.
Speaker 1: That'll be a good.
Speaker 2: Time if I win, you have to play alone in
the dark for the Wii again, Can.
Speaker 1: I at least like try the three sixties?
Speaker 4: That are?
Speaker 1: Sure? Why not?
Speaker 4: I do?
Speaker 2: Part of me feels like we should save that for
Blake Club like that, because that could be anybody's game still,
but I mean, like obviously possibly yours.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but it's just well for me, it might
not work as I Blaco games. I'll be like, oh
this this is so much better. That's a good point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, although although apparently it's weird in different ways and
I'd be interested to see that, but maybe yeah, who knows.
All right, so let's explain what we do here. That's
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Speaker 3: Got a bunch of spooky games I'm gonna stream this month.
We got wrong an Evil three remake because of a
game that's Game Club. I want to do Dead Rising remastered,
and then like maybe get into Dino Crisis for Dream
because there's also that Sound Hill two remake. I'll probably
check that out at some point too when it comes out.
Speaker 1: What is the I'm trying to remember was it? Do
we decide that? Actually? By me?
Speaker 2: Like we I mean, like did the reporting bear out
that code Veronic is actually going to be the next
remake that they do.
Speaker 3: Forgets a lot of weird stuff floating around, and nobody
knew what to believe in. Now I'm like, I don't
quite like her.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, I guess we'll find out. There were a lot
of rumors and conflicting ones. I think you might get
write that like the last one that people thought seemed
the most reliable was maybe talking about Cleveronica and maybe
even zero and not five. So I don't know. I'll
take what I can get. It'll be fine.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no complaints. Whatever they're gonna do. I'm down
for anything where it's gonna give.
Speaker 3: All these days, it does seem like we're like more
expecting nine before any of that.
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the next one for sure,
without a doubt.
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, let's big topics, let's do it, and
by big, not that big, and a lot of stuff
that's kind of a little bit refried here because again,
not a lot of fresh news today, but let's start here.
Speaker 1: Our friend Jason Schreyer dropped by the BombCast.
Speaker 2: We talked to him, got us kind of like talking
about his book quite a bit, which I'm more interested
in than ever. Play nice, The Rise, Fall, and future
of Blizzard entertainment I think is the ax stuff.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And as part of his book tour, he's doing
a lot of interviews and he's dropped some tidbits on
various programs. I just wrote down a couple here. Gorilla
is working on Horizon Online for the most part, and
again that is when I talk him, like you kind
of reminded people that this was happening. Not like breaking
news by any means, it's just I think a lot
of people forget these things. They get in their head like, oh,
I can't wait for the next Horizon or the next
thing Gorilla is doing is Horizon three, and they're not
like because they don't care about Horizon Online. I think
a lot of people forget about Horizon Online. And it's like, oh,
maybe you shouldn't because that is going to be the
next big.
Speaker 1: Push from that studio.
Speaker 3: Take like the last time that they really said they
will be I think the last time we heard about
it was it a pre concord word. I think a
lot of people forgot, and when you remind them about
that now, it is kind of like an Ooh.
Speaker 2: It's a different right, It's a completely different tone now
where it's like Okay, I guess beforehand, and now it's like,
are you sure that's what you want to do? And
I bet Sony's like, no, we're not sure about any
of this.
Speaker 1: We don't know what we're doing. I don't know what
any of this shit is and so we'll see again.
Speaker 2: Like when we were talking to Jacson says he doesn't
know if that game is ever gonna come out.
Speaker 1: It might, but it also might not.
Speaker 2: And that's like kind of the sense you get from
all of those live service projects. But that's the one
from you know, Herman Holst's Herman Holst's Old Stomping Grounds
from the franchise that they seem to be favoring the
most right now, and they have a lot of people
gorilla working on it. If that one doesn't come out,
it kind of feels like, oh, they are just scrapping
this entire idea of live service games, and I don't know,
maybe they should.
Speaker 1: I really don't know the answer for them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Just it seems kind of scary and
you know, a type of the summer before. But it's
like when has the when is this like online version
of one of these games really panned out?
Speaker 1: Recently?
Speaker 3: I mean we you know, Granta Batto Online was a
very big thing of.
Speaker 2: People kind of can't count that one, right, right, I
mean a whole different thing.
Speaker 3: Even Red Dead Redemption Online, which seemed like a slam dunk, right,
Even that didn't really seem to do much. You know,
if you can get the last of us factions just
didn't happen. East spider Man's also that was canceled, right,
what's the fat Spider Man wants? Okay, what's I don't know,
it all seems a little weird. Well, see, maybe there
is an appetite for this, maybe it can be done well,
but yeah, I think it's a safer bet would have
just been let's just make Horizon three. And I get well,
you don't want to do that because you're like, well,
how does Horizon three make more money than Horizon two?
Maybe there's like no way it can. But Horizon online
could make more money than a Horizon too. Now it
can also make a lot less, but people are so
desperate for that line to go up that they'll take risks,
not creative risks, but just kind of weird financial ones.
Speaker 2: Jason also mentioned that a StarCraft shooter is in the works.
This is something that maybe we've heard as well in
the past, but it was like and this this was
him being like, and guess what, list it's working on
a StarCraft shooter. It was very much like, this is
a company that is always looking for new ways to
express on franchises that that they've worked with a bunch
of times, and StarCraft three is maybe not happening.
Speaker 1: So what are they doing with that?
Speaker 2: Well, one time they tried StarCraft Ghosts and then in
like the mid twenty teens, like eighty eight twenty eighteen,
I think they were making StarCraft aries and now.
Speaker 3: It's like StarCraft Battlefield was basically what that was. But
that was like the StarCraft two, like director and whatnot
working on that one. It seems like when that fell apart,
well that's when he left, and a lot of people
have since left. And that's why it's like, oh, even
if we want to make a StarCraft three or even
you know, a Warcraft four, we don't really have a
person who can lead a big RTS project right now,
which is a big bummer yep.
Speaker 1: And so what are they doing with StarCraft?
Speaker 2: Well, they are once again working on a shooter, and
what does that mean?
Speaker 1: Like, is that the future of StarCraft.
Speaker 2: Well, there's no reason to think that would necessarily be
the case, because the history proves they don't release these games.
Speaker 1: They start working on them, and then they don't ever
release them.
Speaker 2: So once again say, hey, yeah, it's kind of it's
illustrative of how things work. It blistered a little bit,
and maybe their desires and their hopes to keep StarCraft relevant,
But whether or not we actually see that game, of course,
remains to be seen.
Speaker 3: And you know, I think we're hearing a lot of
tibits from Jason from this book that about like a
lot of Blizzard projects that never really came to fruition,
and you know a lot of them sound like slam Dunk,
just like StarCraft Ghost seemed like a great idea, and
you know a lot of weird circumstances took that one down.
Speaker 2: But you know, like after an old it was an
old gen game by the time was coming out, and
they thought that that would be a big problem because
the game costs fifty dollars, so Walmart wouldn't put it
on their shelves or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, exactly, Like that was a time where it
wasn't some easy thing to just suddenly be like, well,
we're gonna Target three Xbox three sixty now instead. No,
I just can't just push a button. But you know,
Starblow right like Diablo two teams is gonna We're just
gonna make a StarCraft though, or a Sci Fi one
of those. So that's like a slam duck that didn't happen.
And you know, basically all Blizzard North, which was the
team that made Diabo's, eventually disintegrated. So yeah, there's a
lot of interesting tipets there. I'm excited to read the
whole bok, especially to like get that full story on Titan,
which eventually became Overwatch and then like the weird kind
of like Overwatch becoming a victim of its own success story.
There's just so many interesting threads here. The book comes
out on October eighth, I believe. So yeah, I'm going
to be picking that one up.
Speaker 2: Yep, you can pre order it now. Tony Hawk says
there will be a future of Tony Hawk's pro Skater.
He was celebrated in twenty fifth anniversary. That game is
twenty five years old. Deeply upsetting quarter of a century.
I don't love that, but he kind of was glazing
up the series because it's important to him. Of course
it is, he recognizes how important it is to everybody else.
At the end of the message, he said, I am
not supposed to I think like tease what's next or
what's the future role hold? But he says there will
be a future, and he's referring specifically to the games,
and again, maybe interpret that in a more pessimistic way.
But as I've said a couple of times now, I'm
being pretty optimistic. I think we're getting the real full
deal next Tony Hawk's Pro Skater game one way or
the other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And it's like, you know, I'll take I'll
be very excited about Tony Hawk's Pro Skater three remake,
or like, you know, I know every one of like
assumes three and four because we had one in two.
It's a little weirder there, since three and four very
different styles. They want to just kind of be one
game as easily. Yeah, they could do it anyways, or
you know, I don't know, they would just jump to thug,
but you do that. But it seems like maybe the
easier thing to do is actually, let's just make a
new Tony Hawk's Pro Skater, But there are some questions
like can you get can you sort of are you
able to do another session based Tony Hawk game these days?
Or do you have to do another open world one.
If you do one of those, is that maybe get
a little kind of out of control. You know, the
last time we had an original Tony Hawk game, it
was Tony Hooks Pro Skater five. No, just terrible, even
like the ones before that were you know, the peripheral ones,
and then you know, like Project eight.
Speaker 1: The actual last one.
Speaker 3: Eight was like the last what we would call a
normal one before five, Yeah, because it was the eighth one,
and before that was five Wasteland, right, and uh yeah,
so yeah, exactly played Wasteland.
Speaker 1: I played Skateland.
Speaker 3: I say, I think I played way more skate Land.
Everrida was Wasteland or eight, where like the big thing
was like to use the analog sticks to do the
custom tricks thing, and I was like, I know, I
don't care. It seemed like there was some whimsy lost
in the franchise. By the time we got to Wasteland.
It was kind of taking itself a little seriously.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's what I liked about Skateland
is It had the cell shading and looked more cartooning
and kind of fun, and the levels were great and
it played great on DS.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot about proving grounds. That was one of
the proving ground Yeah. Oh man, wait a second. Okay,
proving grounds was after eight then, because yeah, because what's
three four? The two Thugs? Then Wasteland Project eight proving Grounds.
Speaker 1: Okay, yep, that sounds about right.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: There was a hill Jam on DS maybe, but down
Hill Jam was also like on.
Speaker 3: The we right down Hill Jam was like the weird
launch title racing game only Tony Hawk, and it.
Speaker 2: Was and they made that because Tony Hawk says he
likes downhill jams. Like they're like, okay, I guess that's
what we're making. So it's like there was a time
when he could just be the producer of the game.
Speaker 1: And say give me this and they would make it. Uh.
Ubisoft seems screwed.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sassage Creed Shadows delayed because Star.
Speaker 2: Wars Outlaws underperformed a million copies sold in the first month.
Maybe they are putting Sassa Cree Shadows into February because
the Boogey mess. They want to finish it before they release.
It seems like a good idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, so that game better hit. You know.
Speaker 3: We're also talking to Jason about just the state of
big Triple A games and how kind of messed up
it seems right now and for almost everybody. I do think,
assuming that Dragon Age gets good reviews, and I expect
it will, like if it's if it gets like eighty
five or more. If it gets eighty five or more
of like an average score, it doesn't sell, well, then
then I'm like, really all kind of like we might
be done here everybody. I don't know, because you know,
out like Outlaws selling a million copies and I know
they didn't have the best reviews and had some problems.
Why not, But man, just a million. Used to kind
of assumed there be a little bit more there. So
I'm curious. Is it more of these other problems that
people are trying to pin it on, like everyone assuming
that Ubisoft games are gonna go on sale like Star
Wars fatigue, or is it this bigger systematic problem that
people just aren't buying as many new big games anymore
as they used to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it's it really is just
kind of all those factors coming together and creating this
this huge headwind for these kinds of Triple A games.
And uh, you know, I've kind of talked about this
a little bit over the past few weeks, Like this
kind of this general topic has been coming up for
a very long time, but especially it's been very acute
since Concord, and we're trying to like like diagnose exactly
what's happening here. I think this simple solution is people
are very happy with the like playing games that are
free or that they already own, and then when you
come out with a new game, it's very easy for
them to have.
Speaker 1: Or they begin searching for excuses to not want to
spend money on it.
Speaker 2: And there are there's a lot of baggage with something
like a Star Wars or Assassin's Creed or a game
from Ubisoft or a game from EA or a game
from from any variety of publishers, and that stuff to
get like I will be, yeah, Dragon Age, Veil Guard,
the Vail Guard will be an interesting one to keep
an eye on, Like it will be that can that
just overcome all this stuff?
Speaker 1: Can the the headwinds that are trying to build with.
Speaker 2: A bunch of weirdos online and the game, you know, uh,
kind of like having some weird like, oh, we're going
to change the focus of the title a little bit
and all that stuff, you know, and the weird E
three or Summer Game Fest trailer and stuff like that.
Some of the stuff like it's okay, you've get into
pieces together, and does this snowball into a big problem
that then manifest into people not wanting to spend money
when it launches. It feels like that's still on the table,
and if the game is good enough to overcome that
will actually overcome that.
Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to pay attention to it.
Speaker 2: But if I'm one of these big companies and I
am deciding this year what to begin investing money in
to release in two, three, four or five years, I
feel less confident than ever in any bet. And I
think what's happening now is going to in a handful
of years kind of come back around and be like, man,
where are these games from these companies? And I don't
think there will be many. I think they will be
very afraid to release stuff, and it will be very
safe or actually surprisingly more live service games because we're like,
I guess if this hits at least we will make
a lot of money for a couple of years.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be weird, right, But even that.
Speaker 3: It's like, again, I'll divers tuit did hit and it
hits so well, and it's just like, oh, that didn't
really seem to solve any problems, did it. I don't know,
So yeah, it just gets scary times.
Speaker 1: Starfield shatter Space. People don't People don't like it.
Speaker 2: Even people that like for the for the most part,
even people who like Starfield are not happy with this,
and I think the I tried to read some reviews,
and my general takeaway as someone who hasn't played the
game the expansion, I should say, is that people are
pointing out like, yes, they did try to make something
that is more in line with traditional bethesa content, a
planet with a bunch of points of interest that you'll
be exploring. You'll walk in one direction, you'll find some stuff, sure,
but it's not a great one of those. And then
that also highlights the problems with the main game. And
then it doesn't take any of the strengths of the
main game, which would be like the like the new
Game plus five where you're seeing how things change over
time and how your decisions affect things. So I don't
I don't know. It's part of me is like, Okay,
this is them proven. They really kind of can't figure
this out, at least in this first expansion. Another part
of me is like, it's just an expansion. It doesn't
really mean like this was never gonna make or break
anything when I really sit down and try to think
about it.
Speaker 3: No, but there have been like some very well liked,
like Bethesda expansions in the past. I don't know if
they've ever had to kind of like turn a game
around necessarily, but so, I mean, it's like a fifty
two open credit right now. That's kind of shocking, especially
since you know, for as much as I think a
lot of people have eventually decided that they didn't like Starfield,
like me, came initially reviewed pretty well, so there was
like some excitement there. So I'm not, yeah, I haven't
played it yet, and party is like good, I want
to play this. There's so many things to play. I
don't even like normal Starfield. Here's a version of it
people like less.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: Of course, some people do like it, some of like
the big you know Starfield fans do, and and you
know that's fine and all that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I listened to Greg Miller's review earlier this week,
and he was like, at an eight or eight point five,
I think he said. And I think he was like
for the base game, I was at a seven or
seven point five.
Speaker 1: So really because I thought he freaking I love Yeah.
Speaker 2: Listen, this is why it's like, I was happier when
they were on their I guess their fans hated their
five point review scale, but it made way more sense
because like, he gave that game his Game of the Year.
But he's like, but then when I have to describe
it to other people, I got to say it's a seven.
It's like, no, that's oh honey, you guys have got
it backward over there. You got to go figure this
out again. I don't listen. I don't envy anybody who's
like working with the community that's very obsessed with their
grading scale, which is definitely what happens over there.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I hey, I think they will move
on from this. Still.
Speaker 2: They're not abandoning Starfield, but this is not the solve
for the problems of that game. I think they're gonna
have to kind of keep updating the base game, and
maybe maybe do they now even have to keep updating this?
Speaker 1: I don't think they. I don't think that's what happens here.
Speaker 2: I don't think of a year they're like, and we
updated Shattered Space to be something that you'll like.
Speaker 3: Let's I find mildly interesting. So there's like twelve four
hundred people in Starfield on Steam right now active players,
which is pretty not bad. But there's like eleven thousands
of time dra fifteen fall four, which there's only a
little bit less all up for so much. Older think
you think there's ever gonna be a Starfield too, especially
considering like how long it takes to make a Fallout
and A and a older scrolls these years these days.
Speaker 2: And listen on the grand scale of time. I think
there's a chance in twenty twenty five years, like they're like,
and guess what Starfield two, and by then it'll be
like that will mean something so different. But I think
the next five games from is to have nothing to
do with Starfield, So that puts it sta far out.
The next quarter of a century will not be Starfield heavy.
Speaker 3: From this am man, The pressure sure is on with
older scroll six.
Speaker 2: Huh, yep, I better men, Scott, that that's one that's
kind of paint by numbers a little bit right, like
you just you would say.
Speaker 3: But like like maybe again, like you already see a
little bit of like the things that everybody loved about Skyrim,
Like people already turn their nose up to it a
bit like, Oh, that combats actually really all in boring. Now,
I'm like, oh, guess what you do a lot of
Actually it's scared me. You do kind of swing your
sword at shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I good, But I'm just like, if they get
the expiration right, I'll be happy. But you're right, I
mean it could still very well be disappointing. I might
be deluding myself even just saying that.
Speaker 1: All right, that those are the big topics of the week.
Speaker 2: If there's stuff you all want to talk about, though,
we could do that in the super chats, which we'll
get to right after this break. We are back and Mike,
we got a bunch of super chats. Why don't we
hop right into it.
Speaker 3: You're saying, Jacob Bench says, thoughts on the Houston Texans,
Please be nice.
Speaker 2: I don't think about the Houston Texans all that frequently. Yeah,
that's where I'm at with them.
Speaker 3: I think about their boring name, and that's from somebody
who's a Browns fan.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: For as much as I understand Greenhouse gases being a problem,
Houston Oilers was a fucking football team name.
Speaker 1: That's good stuff.
Speaker 3: Andrew Glover member unleakked here for six months think. He says,
I have never been a sports fan, but just genuine
hype for the Lions last year has made me into
Alliance fan.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's it's a good that's a good bandwagon to hop on.
It's because it's all good vibes right now, and they're
they're playing pretty well, and they aren't playing their best
football yet and they've been such lovable losers, but not
even they've just been losers for so long that everyone
it's easy to root for.
Speaker 1: There is no villainous to their to their winning right now.
Speaker 3: I might I might be rooting for the Lions.
Speaker 2: Hop on everybody now some time to do it. Do
it with the Tigers as well, because they have ten
games out of the playhoffs right started right now and
now they have the most winning this record since August.
Speaker 3: When's the last time the Tigers won a World Series
the eighties. Okay, no, fuck you, fuck you so hard time.
Let's go.
Speaker 1: There are probably a.
Speaker 2: Lot ever one which is crazy to me that the
Milwaukee Brewers and number one one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty wild. That's a good name, Brewers. That's funny.
Speaker 1: That's what maybe the best baseball name. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Ryan Allen says, I've had the Venga bus in my
head all week because of Infrastructure Week. Is Jacques jacuzziz
cous cous Yeah, because how are you feeling about infrastructure week?
Speaker 1: Uh said?
Speaker 2: I couldn't partake today, But the crew did a good
job of building a theme park to your specifications.
Speaker 1: At least I started it.
Speaker 3: And I know I still have to see what they
did because like they asked, Jed, ask you for the
five things that I've looked for in a theme park,
and I just like, there's a very genuine list. But
I'm like, are they gonna know what I mean by
kinetic energy?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I I let me see. Okay, what you
mean by that is when you walk into one of
these attractions there should feel like they have put a
lot of effort into every little thing, so it feels
like there's stuff happening.
Speaker 1: I don't know, No, I saw what that means. It's
a shit.
Speaker 2: It's kind of that you hold something up that's potential
energy and you let go of something that's kinetic energy.
Speaker 3: It's the idea that you see a lot of kind
of the moving parts of the theme park, in the attractions,
even as you're walking around the park, which is kind
of an easy thing to do in a roller coaster park.
But so it's like, I want to be able to
see the train going by there, and the steampoat going
by over there, and here's like the mount the you know,
the the one of the roller coasters going by here,
and it's right next to me. So it you know,
it's kind of the what makes a steam park feel
alive to me?
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough? Uh all right.
Speaker 3: Next one here is from Power Glovers is WOOFLF to
my dogs, Mikey SEMPI please tell me I'm your favorite
super chatter. Here is some simoleans for your beautiful boys.
Damn sucks XO XO XO, JK JK. Yeah sure. If
you pay me to say you're my favorite, I'll do that.
You're my favorite Power Glover absolutely, thank you.
Speaker 1: Uds Uh, I'm still still top to your name.
Speaker 3: Alian Merkle says, shakes Mike, finish downtro please, I should,
I need to, but I'll tell you what. I'll tell
you what though, Jeff that uh world Warcraft warworth then
it's pretty pretty good.
Speaker 2: It's like you should and you need to, but you
didn't say you're going to gone trail.
Speaker 3: I'm playing a lot more with it. Actually, it's a
very good. It kind of like just does a lot
of things I like. Like, I like all these underground
like cave zones. There's a lot of dwarf stuff that
I find fun. So they have this new system, like
this new content called Delves, which is basically solo dungeons, right,
And I don't like some people like, oh I'm a
million played by herself, but like as some old guy
who doesn't really want to like have a guild nights
to go do a raid anymore. But that I could
just do these and still get like good glutes and
make progress on my character pretty nice.
Speaker 4: So sounds nice.
Speaker 3: It is nice, like been enjoying. I've been enjoying more
within I'll get to I'll finished onto eventually. Aside from
Sisatchewant says, because of you guys, my wife and I
watched and bought the whole Columbus collection and and or
such great shows and awesome time vestments. Also, Oreo Coca
is amazing. Consider yourselves influencers. I do like influencing people.
I'm not gonna lie. Oh yeah, yeah, for sure not.
Speaker 2: I will put this in the package that we send
out to advertisers. Clearly, yes, don't worry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just to be sure to tell us how much
you like arbys too. I noticed it was suspiciously missing.
Maybe maybe we've been slipping, Mike, maybe you've been hiding
it up enough. You're right, well, we got to bring
it back. We'll do some more Arby's talk here. Tody
Bishop says, are you excited for Silent Hill to remake?
I'm like, I don't know if I'm actively excited, but
I'm like gonna be happy to play it, and uh,
I bet I'm gonna like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm looking forward to see.
Speaker 2: What uh sort of the the meltdown or the anti
meltdown is for this game from fans and then like
from the wider audience as well. I want to kind
of see you like, oh do people who haven't really
played this before show up for this and enjoy themselves.
I will be trying this game myself, but I have
not played it yet, so kind of just gonna be
there with everyone else looking forward to it.
Speaker 3: Jacob Bench's Mike, please finish it's he succeeed in Down Trail. Yeah,
I do have the Steam version of as He's sixteen now.
Pum is like I should just restart it, and then
I'm like, yeah, I don't want to read start it.
Speaker 1: It's not your fault.
Speaker 2: If people in enjoyed watching Dawn Trail as much as
they enjoyed watching from software games, you would have streamed
that and you would have beaten it.
Speaker 1: This is not your fault.
Speaker 3: It is you know.
Speaker 1: It is true.
Speaker 3: It's like, unless you're an MMO like content person, it
could be kind of poison to your viewership to stream
in it. It just is like that even when like
warw Within was new and I was like streaming it,
people dip. People dip, which like I'm not like that's like,
that's not one hundred percent determining what I stream right, Like,
I'm doing the Souls games because it's fun and it
is also nice that people seem to like to watch that,
but I you know, stream a lot of things.
Speaker 1: Makes it easier to choose it. That's just a little bit.
Speaker 3: It's a little easier. Cyn from Saskatchewan with their tenth
super chests. Have you ever thought of doing a swerve
for Blake Club console reveals? Example, tell them it's a
PS two game, but it's really a PS one game
since it's backward compatible. It'll keep them sweating till the end.
You have to be careful because like you need the
right memory card then and stuff like that. Still, I
think I did think about doing a gag. When I
was going to open the letter package that had a
Loan the Dark it with my address on it. I
was gonna like buy my own it. Just put Mario
Galaxy to in it and it opened up, be like, oh,
you guys want me to play Mario Galaxy two.
Speaker 2: That would have been pretty good. I mean, we would
have yelled at you a lot, but that would have
been funny.
Speaker 3: Michelle with just one with a nice super chat here
with no message, but there's a nice hot dog attached
to it. So they got so much for our show.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, Michelle, Thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, el Grog says, there's Starfield DLC quick ask aj Minatti.
Speaker 1: Oh, don't worry.
Speaker 4: He text me.
Speaker 3: He's like, I've been enjoying it. I'm like, I'm sure, yeah,
he said, we'll see. Uh hey you. Pika Blue says,
Happy tru October spooky month. Messers technology, Yep, do you
feel spooky?
Speaker 1: I a little bit. I put up the ogie boogie.
Speaker 2: Like gateway thing that we have of the inflatable, and
that's pretty spooky. But I've not put up the twelve
foot Jack Skellington yet, So once I have that, then
I'll feel fully spooky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta do it. Come on October, you got.
Speaker 2: I wanted to do it like two weeks ago, but
step said it was too early and that she was
afraid that the weatherwitar wrote it too much over like
six weeks.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, Okay, I think this is a good time.
I want to put up this weekend, all right.
Speaker 3: I want to see it. I want to see it
when I come to your house potentially on Monday. I'll
tell you. If not, it's going to be trouble.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, all right.
Speaker 3: The capital T I don't know, and that recipe isn't
pe for pool. Cody Bishop says the show from on
Prime is like Lost, same producers, about people get stuck
in a small town with ghosts that come out at night.
Spooky Lost, Spooky Lost.
Speaker 2: I only just heard about the show because Justin McRoy
was talking about on Bestie's like last week or the
week before, and he's like, there are so many scenes
in this show.
Speaker 1: That's a funny thing to say you should watch.
Speaker 2: There's so many scenes, and I pay attention to some
of them, sometimes most of them.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, So the King of Austria telling or whatever,
telling Mozart that his music has too many notes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like okay.
Speaker 2: And then apparently like it just it's just nonsense, and
I'm like, I like nonsense, so maybe I'll check it all.
I did start Billions, which is that Showtime show about
a billionaire that has seven seasons, and I've never met
anyone who's actually watched it, but I've only I've seen
clips on YouTube shorts a million times now, and it's
so I'm like, I got to see this for myself,
and it is like almost a parody of itself because
it like they go in the room where it's like,
all right, we're gonna have money making ideas and the
one guy's like the one guy who's like clearly just
supposed to be there to be like the cuck of
the room is like maybe maybe we should buy more Apple,
and they're like, you're a pussy, you fucking suck. It's like,
what you guys need to like really work on this.
This is all really bad.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I liked it a lot. I bet you did.
H blood Board PC twenty twenty five says it's spooky season.
What's your favorite monster? Are there any fun games featuring
said monster? Please do a decision on spooky games sometime.
I mean it's probably like the Castlevania freaking me. But
I do like Dracula. I think Dracula is is fun. Specifically,
that's simply the Knight desired in voice version of Dracula.
You know my favorite party trick of just doing the
entire opening bit with Richter and Dracula from Symphony of
the Night. Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 4: It's fun.
Speaker 2: Also from Castlevania, but Casylvania sixty four. I've talked about
him before. The Frankenstein with chainsaws for hands, right, that's
a classic every kid knows it and is afraid of it.
Speaker 3: Bob is Me says, to what extent does the UBI
Premium service contribute to low sales numbers for Ubi games
like Star Wars Outlaws.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's contributing all that much now. I
think most people, most average people don't know it exists
and don't find enough value in it to keep it
all around, like to keep it all the time. So
it's like suddenly I have Star Wars Outlaws in my thing.
They're not doing that, They're they're maybe buying it here
and there when the game comes out to avoid having
to spend the whole thing on it, but.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, really affecting.
Speaker 6: I got it for Aulas and it was a pin
on distigated because I don't know and where I leave.
They don't choose. When you go to Ubis you play
plus what a fuck the name is? You go to
that thing that it tells you it's no, it's no,
it's not available in your in your song, It's like, what,
what the hell?
Speaker 7: And then you have to go to the.
Speaker 6: Xbox app on on the computer and get it there
through Xbox like, oh, this is the whole thing, and.
Speaker 1: Does an obvious solution for a lot of people.
Speaker 6: It is weird.
Speaker 3: Uh. Next one is from Docean, the sort of giant.
He says, curious what you think of the metaphor demo?
Speaker 1: Ah?
Speaker 3: Where where does the metaphor demo starting end?
Speaker 2: I've heard people played it for like eight or nine
hours that it started. It started to start at the
beginning of the game, because your stuff carries over to
the fune.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think I think it's very good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3: I think that the demo is fantastic.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean you have you been playing it as well?
Christian the demo?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm playing the demo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I take your lack of comment as a
very loud and yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you like the demo? Christian?
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you don't like persona games? Oh you don't? Yeah,
you don't.
Speaker 3: Wait all right, okay. Geico, VP of Marketing, says, apparently
are so easy at Jeff Grubble get it approach to
commercials has backfired, like please tell Jeff to eat shit.
We hope his alliance finished in less place in fifteen
minutes could save in fifty percent on car insurance. I
guess I kind of just told you those things.
Speaker 1: Look it is.
Speaker 2: The commercial is the caveman is doing like the guessing
game where it's like the lady has a word and
she can't charades or whatever, not trades, but like she's
got to describe it without saying the word. And Geico
comes up and she's like, well, I want to pass.
He's like, well, we don't pass, and she's like it's
like very easy or whatever she says, and then the
time runs out and she shows him it's Geico, and
then the guy says, maybe you could have done it,
or maybe you could have done a British accent, like
referring to the get go, I think. And the caveman's
not like mad that Geico has come up anymore. He's
just kind of annoyed and like he used to be
like mad because Geico made so many times.
Speaker 1: So it's right, but that's like my fault.
Speaker 2: Am I supposed to recognize that it's been so many
years and that doesn't get storytelling. Come on, it's just
a little bit weird. That's just a little too sophisticated
for ejet. That's exactly what I was trying to get at. Yes,
too sophisticated, like Geico Caveman commercial.
Speaker 3: For what God says quick purchasing advice. Should I buy
my dad's hometown in Detroit for ten thousand dollars or
the new Madden for seventy dollars Detroit versus everyone go
lines end up getting my shit in po from Teletubby's
nothing else.
Speaker 1: Now, if you could buy a whole town for ten.
Speaker 2: You can buy a town for ten thousand dollars in
some areas that Troit, Detroit, that's not unheard of. Listen
if you want to, don't be afraid to go in
Detroit for like any sporting events. It's they've really made
it fantastic these days, but there are still like parts
where like there's lots of houses for ten thousand dollars
for sure that no one buys and things like that.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, Yeah, buy it? Why not go
for it?
Speaker 3: Come off of hope with Gods. I see you, Josh
and me trying to act like you know me? Edward
or Edgar Marina says, Trolls of Mana and Legend of
Mana came to game pass. Should I go back to
Secret of Man of First? Also Terry First? You fired
six spacing Combas aren't killing me. Yeah, you know, I
said I wanted to play She Fired six when Terry
came out, But turns out I am still just having
a lot of fulm Mars's cap come to you and
want to keep playing that. All the man of games
are kind of separate. You can just play whichever one
you want. You can play. You can play Trails first,
if that's what you want to do.
Speaker 4: It's fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe don't play any of them all.
Speaker 3: Right, Chuck Tawski, with the super check that he Chuck says,
I beat Starfield and did New Game Plus trying to
get through the DLC. I feel like Bethesda needs to
go hire a weird hose and find some personality again.
I see that, I've seen some people say, because I
guess Bethesda somewhat famously like doesn't really have like a
writing team in terms of like people who specialize in
write antin It's still just like they're developers doing that,
which is very much just how it used to always be. Right,
Maybe that maybe you can't get away with that anymore.
I don't know, Maybe that's not even true. That's just
some thing I saw angry people saying online. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I don't.
Speaker 2: They clearly need more. They need something more, uh and
I is it the writing. I'm sure that would help
a little bit, but I think they just need to
like get a few more verbs in there that feel good.
Speaker 3: Well, it's like they have some there's a lot of
systems that are like halfway there, and they don't really
tie into much. Like you know, this is a game
where every object has like physics to it, and it's
kind of like, well, why you like the best thing?
I go because it's funny to feel your spaceship up
with sandwiches.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I guess is that all? Is that all
you got? Though?
Speaker 3: You know, even things like you can build bases, I'm like, well,
what can you do with the stuff different basis so
I can build more bases?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, But it's in the sky Rim game and those
games when you went and got every wheel of cheese
from the world. I think the thinking there was third
is an economy to this world, and I think there's
a finite number.
Speaker 1: Of cheeses for the most part.
Speaker 2: So when you go and do that putting them all
in your house, there's something about that that feels like holistic,
like you did something to this world. But in Starfield
it is procedurally generated. So when you go to a
new planet, like you know these thousands of planets, it's
gonna just get filled up with stuff, and it feels
like there is no purpose to the placement of the
wheel of the space cheese. So taking all of those
and putting them in your starship doesn't feel as meaningful.
So yeah, there's a disconnect there. I think they just
need to work on.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: Next up is from keV bought dot Org, says Jeff.
Last year you mentioned Shadows of Doubt being an early
access game to check out, because once you let you
know that version one point, I was out, what a
fun and weird game.
Speaker 2: Yes, I intended to check it out, and the week
it came out, I think I just got thrown off
a little bit. I think some reviews were a little
bit lower than I was expecting, so I was like, oh,
I still want to check this out for myself. But
then I think we just got busy. But don't worry.
We got Murder Week coming out and I'll play it.
Speaker 1: Then. No, I have no idea, what is that really
a thing? What we should do? We had divorce week
coming up, so.
Speaker 3: That's been happening apparently. Oh my god, Bailey, that I
missed out, but I know she made some good Yeah,
it was incredible. It was incredible.
Speaker 2: I will be playing Shadows of Doubt soon here, looking
forward to it.
Speaker 3: See Stick says, I'm moving to Japan to work as
an assistant language teacher Sunday. So I'm enjoying the few
Colorado nights I still have. What should my last meal be?
Thank you for your first super chat seastick.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: The thing I miss most actually is that Good Time
Burger's place. Really good burgers, really good everything there. And
you know it's a they're a fast food place. But
if you want to go someplace fancier, I don't blame you,
but I would probably just go to Good Times.
Speaker 3: One of my food YouTube videos was about making chili
Colorado today. Was that actually a thing you ever had
in Colorado? Well, chili Colorado green chili on it? No,
it's not green, Okay, it's very red, very dark if
not really tomato, it's like pure chili based it looks like.
But chili Colorado was like, wonder if Jeff knows about that?
Apparently you don't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Green Chili was the thing we put on everything, like
Hatch to Green Chili sort of thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, David says, what do you guys want to
see in a Zelda theme park? If you watch the
uh parts of the care be and ride in Shanghai Disneyland. Uh,
it's like this incredible boat based ride where the boat
is kind of like moving all over the place. It's
not just like a Pirates of the Caribbean thing, It's
like a bit more exhilarating. I want that. Based on
wind Waker. By the way, Andy Robinson, who I thought
was a good friend, really really coming out hard against
wind Waker in ways that I just do not approve of.
Speaker 1: So I think, what do you think.
Speaker 3: Oh, there's like some some big publication did a list
of like best Zelda games. Actually wasn't too bad, like
obviously disagreed with yeah, not too bad, but one Wicker
was like pretty high in there, and he's like and
he's like a lot of good games on here, and
then one Waker or something. I was like, ooh, I
don't like that. And you know, it's like, of course
they come back to the Triforce bike hunting thing, and
it's like, oh, you have to like go and get
these things. And I'm always like, oh, wow, you have
to play a game like it's a game. It's like, oh,
you have to go to these dungeons, you know, but
it's okay if you don't get it, you know more. Frankly,
there's actually not more wind Waker for me, zero sum.
Speaker 1: The questions of what I want to see is Zelda
theme Park? Yes, kinetic Energy. Yeah, you took the words
out of my mouth.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: That's nothing you really want to answer with.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1: Let you get away with it. Yeah, I listen. First
of all, I wasn't listening to you, so I was.
Speaker 2: I'm afraid that you're I'm gonna repeat your answer King
of Red Lions. But like one of those like those
blove boats that you go around in the water.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty similar. Perfect, incredible, good show.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Next one is from The Charted Wolf. You all see
Square refuse to let their characters be an astrobot? Are
they stupid? Are they mad that astro is overshadowing Rebirth
for Game of the Year. I don't think they're stupid.
I think that there are reasons and I don't know
what they are why this stuff is sometimes difficult. Like
even even in Astro's play Rum, like we saw Cloud's
buster sword, but Cloud wasn't like one of the bots, right,
And there's still weird things like yeah, Cloud and sprof
or Smash Brothers for some reason, they only have like
two songs and they like can't get the English voice
act there, it's just the Japanese one. So they're either
they're weird. What button were you trying to push?
Speaker 1: The cough button?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So either there's they're there being weird or there's
like some kind of complicated thing about those characters. I
don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's as simple as the relationship
got too transactional and uh, and every little thing that
could be a bargaining ship became a bargaining ship, and
so Squirenix couldn't just give them these things. They had
to be part of, Well, if you're going to pay
us more money for this and this and this, we
will include that as part of that deal to sweeten
the pot. And they got to a point where maybe
they stopped like doing those transactions as frequently, and both
sides were rethinking it, and then that left these things
on the sideline when it came time to actually make
the game.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I do think it was definitely a broader
square It' because it's like there's there aren't any Square
Enix characters, right, Like you don't have to be you
don't even have like, you know, there's like a lot
of PS one characters from games that mattered on PS one.
You don't have like parasite people, which seems like it's
definitely a cowiber of character that could have been in
here considering what we do see. So there's definitely like
swear he just didn't want to for whatever reason.
Speaker 6: Maybe they found out the what's the the Dick Johnson
wasn't on the game, and they were like, if he's
not there, we're not gonna put our characters there.
Speaker 1: That's right so far.
Speaker 3: Dick Johnson, what his name is? Are you talking about
the guy from the Motorcycle Guy?
Speaker 7: Yeah, what's his name?
Speaker 1: He is in there. Remember, that's why he's upset.
Speaker 3: He is in there.
Speaker 4: He's there.
Speaker 8: Oh, maybe that's why.
Speaker 2: Deacon Beacon Deacon Dick beckone Motorcycle Game.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 5: You need to know that inevitably do you Dave Sean
So I'm just up on my day's gone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right there.
Speaker 3: Christian will start piping up pretty early, but like shot,
you get to we're a bit deeper at it. He
always comes in with that toad like we were really lost.
Speaker 5: When I envisioned the comments section what it could be,
I was, Okay, I need to fix this one quick.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: They they're gonna love Big Dickens. Gay you, Pika Blue,
They're twentieth super Chat. Thank you so much, Pika Blue. So,
speaking of Dracula, have you watched HBO True Blood? No?
Speaker 2: I thought about it, but I think I watched Carnival.
Was my show at the time.
Speaker 3: Carnival wasn't that Oh that's carnievil the like weird like
it was like Area fifty one, that shooter game, but
was in a I I was.
Speaker 1: Into that too? Sure? Yeah good?
Speaker 2: And then I think I think I was pretty mad
at HBO for canceling Carnival.
Speaker 1: So I didn't watch True Blood.
Speaker 3: Oh, Greg says, can you imagine how checked out of
this podcast Jeff will be when the Lions play on
Thursday night Football? Also Mike Kate's Lindor Chocolates. Yeah, I
don't like the weird liquid center of lind Or chocolates.
It's gross. I forgot that's what's in them. So when
I had that one during the travel ug, it was
disgusting to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess being surprised by that when maybe could
throw off anybody and you don't like that sort of thing,
So it's really gonna.
Speaker 3: Get Are you gonna promise to me you're not gonna
watch a football game during Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because because the Thursday night game is on Thanksgiving and
we won't be doing a show that day.
Speaker 3: Now, well, that kind of person what I was one
of those regarded no matter what, I.
Speaker 1: Would monetize it somehow.
Speaker 2: And then, uh, the problem is the week later they
also play on Thursday night football.
Speaker 1: So uh, I will do my best.
Speaker 3: Doctor Wright says gub if you could sing this to
Mike in the tune of Hot.
Speaker 2: To Go, am I in O T T I Mike,
but n he's quite a guy.
Speaker 4: Thank you very good.
Speaker 3: And then Magnum Gaming says GTA six trailer tomorrow. Is
that a thing people are saying might happen tomorrow?
Speaker 2: Well, Magnum Gaming is people that'd been gaming saying I
don't know first time hearing about it, though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I mean, who cares? That would be
awesome if it doesn't happen. Ol If it does, cool,
I would be excited.
Speaker 2: I think if that happens and the switch to announcements
we paired up with the new lunchables, obviously, that would
be fantastic.
Speaker 3: Would be a good fay weally about this lunchables theory.
Speaker 2: I just I think it's a very funny, uh conspiracy theory,
and I'm glad no one else thinks it's funny.
Speaker 1: That just makes it funnier to me.
Speaker 3: All Right, that's it for the Supertest right now, Jeff,
back to you Cool.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take another break so we can get set up.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we're gonna do the one game
where we're gonna get caught up on what happened with
our open critic guessing game, and we are going to
do a fixed list right after this, Big dickens, I
got a lot of problem with you people, but we
could just ignore that for now and instead do a
mess of a guest Q four addition, and I think
to do this, I step back and let another.
Speaker 1: Host come in.
Speaker 5: What do you mean, you people?
Speaker 2: You know milk drinkers. Oh you, I just have a
problem with them too.
Speaker 5: Damn, I maybe I shouldn't do this anymore. But yeah,
it's me. It's Sean. I'm coming in here to present
to you all the Uncharred Wolf's game that we do
every single quarter, where you guys and the community are
guessing open critic reviews, score averages.
Speaker 2: This reminds me real quick, Sean, Hey, the guy that
runs fantasy critic doc games, make it a quarterly season.
It should be one season per quarter because that would
be easier for people who engage with.
Speaker 1: Okay, something important to say too.
Speaker 3: It turns out that Chili Colorado is actually from Mexico
and it's named that because of the color. So it's
not from the States, so Jeff wouldn't know about it.
Speaker 1: Sorry, avocados from Mexico.
Speaker 4: All right, go ahead, good?
Speaker 5: Yes, in case, in case you didn't notice, we are
the name. The name of the game is now a
mess of a guest really have a name for it.
So yeah. This is presented of course by me from
the arm Charged Untired Wolf and executive produced by Benji
Bop In parentheses here he made the name, so shoust
about for coming up with this.
Speaker 4: It's a good name.
Speaker 5: I like him. Quick reminder of what's going on here.
So last quarter, the guys were given eight different games
coming out in the three month period. They need to
guess the Open Craig score, the Open Craig average that
would land at of all the review scores aggregate on
that site. Uh. Whoever gets closest to the final score
gets one point. If you predict the exactly right, you
got two points. And if you didn't think a game
would come out by Endo third Core, you could say
will not release, you get double the points on that.
So recapo the score so far Q one, Mike one,
and Q two. Mike also won Q one, Lewis ag
and Fishlow one, and then Community and Jamie H one.
Speaker 1: Q two got you gotta winness quarter be a lie style, Jeff,
it was just a.
Speaker 5: Season. Anyways, into the actual results, Game number one was
black myth Wu Kong. Mike picked first. You guys alternate
of course, Mike went with eighty two and Jeff went
with eighty three. It came in just slightly under eighty one,
so Mike just very closer gets the point there were
we are at the point where a lot of people
in the community are playing, so I will refer audio
listeners to the video version if you want to see
your name. If I don't call out the names on
any of these particular games. Game number two was Concord.
Jeff said, seventy five. I don't know what's selling five
question mark. Mike said, seventy game A lot more on
that at sixty four.
Speaker 1: I remember this, and you're like, man, that was a
good call.
Speaker 5: So Mikey gets the point on that one. In the
community shouts to Zuebmer and Jackie g who both got
right with sixty four. Villain Villain Mack did say Concord
would not release, and so Wolf is saying you're technically
right and wrong. So you get half a point for
that one.
Speaker 1: Congratulate the game is unreleased.
Speaker 2: I think a full point, frankly, but that's mabee funnier.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny, all right.
Speaker 5: Game number three was World of Warcraft The War Within.
Mike went with the eighty six. Jeff took the under
at eighty five and it did come in at eighty four,
So Jeff gets the point on that.
Speaker 3: Critics were wrong, credits are wrong on this one. I
should that point should be mine, but whatever, for.
Speaker 5: What's worth that ninety six percent of critics do recommend it. Yeah,
the ron Tomatoes sort of thing going on there. Game
number four was Visions of Mana.
Speaker 1: That's not a real game.
Speaker 5: Miles crying somewhere right now, Jeff said eighty one. Mike
took the under with eighty. I came at seventy seven. Yes,
Mike was under you, and I got the point on
that one.
Speaker 1: Under It is a very good thing to have.
Speaker 5: Game number five was Star Wars Outlaws. Mike went first,
he paid an eighty three. Jeff, you guys love prices riting.
Sorry Jeff on eighty two. I came in at seventy six,
So Jeff gets a point on that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this definitely came in. I didn't think there'd be
too much world war would be below eighty, but we
got there.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, it's still not good, not great range, So
you know that's have been worse. I suppose in the
community shows to Monogrim for getting exactly right with the
seventy six nice. Game number six was Astrobot. Let's see
Jeff p eighty nine. I was a believer when ninety
one you should have been a true believer. It landed
at ninety five.
Speaker 3: Shit, eat shit, just like the Geico people told me,
I'm gonna tell you to eat shit.
Speaker 5: I'm curious because I'm wondering where this lands in top
right games of all time? Like how high that is?
Is that like top twenty or something like that.
Speaker 3: Ninety five you'd think it'd be top It might be
top twenty five.
Speaker 1: Pretty good.
Speaker 2: We get the nice number one game of this year
for sure, right, Maybe ninety five is more common.
Speaker 5: I think it is because it gets like exponential pointsody,
it's like top fifty or something. But that's still very
very good. Yeah, Doctor Ryan and Enemy Mouse both got
exactly right with ninety five.
Speaker 1: Hey, good job.
Speaker 5: Game number seven Lammer forty K Space Marine to Mike
picked eighty one, Jeff picked eighty and it came in
at eighty one. So Mike gets to the double points there.
Nicely done.
Speaker 2: Oh baby, I feel like I remember this one too,
being like eighty one and being like Maddie Gooks, I'm like,
that's such a good score for this game.
Speaker 1: So I guess I'll go the under.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's what happened. Yeah, uh sick Panada
eater and Barspackle all guy exactly right within eighty one
as well. And then game number eight, this should be
last one. Uh, Jeff picked eighty six, Mike picked eighty five.
Leelda Echoes of Wisdom came in at an eighty six,
So Jeff, you got this one exactly correct. Got two
points on that one, and Monogram Bop and Panada Eater
all also guy exactly right with eighty six, which means
Mike Benadi wins six to four in this quarter.
Speaker 3: A okay almost, he almost got back up there there.
Let I'll tell you what I do. Feel like we're
pretty good at this. Yeah, all the answers are like
right there, we're like very close. It's and it does
matter if you can kind of get that under on
some of those unless you get it exactly right, in
which case the both times that were like we're like,
the under didn't work. I think it was because the
person chose first got it exactly right.
Speaker 1: So it's like, man, yep, cool.
Speaker 5: I like mathematically there's more opportunity for under to be good.
But it is interesting how often it is the under
rare than the over that takes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it's just like it's so easy to be.
Speaker 2: Optimistic and then uh, and then completely beef Astrobot I guess,
but whatever I suppose, So yep, astrobot I should have
been that's the reason I lost.
Speaker 5: I'm now going to take just a second to scroll
through the community results there so people can see where
they landed. There's so many people compeeing now that we
could include everybody. So uh, Wolfe says here, if you
participate but didn't see your name, the unfortunately didn't gay points,
thanks for playing, and I shouts to villain Mack. That
half point on concord goes the windows quarter. So that's
the difference. Yeah, that's the difference. That's the concord difference. Baby. Alrighty,
so quarter four we're gonna wrap up the year here,
same rules as before, but now you'll be predicting the
open creak for fifteen games. We got the full slate
this time.
Speaker 3: Wow points, Bacon, catch up, Jeff. I don't know how
he's scoring all this.
Speaker 2: It is by quarter. But also obviously I'm just playing
for on respect points.
Speaker 5: Now you are playing, you are playing.
Speaker 3: You don't want to be completely embarrassed. You don't want
to be victim of the first ever, uh, the best
of a sweep.
Speaker 1: Right, exactly, yes, so we'll try to avoid.
Speaker 5: That deadline As always for community guesses is when the
first game gets reviews, Mike's victory in the previous quarter
will let him go first. Nick picking from there, and
you cannot say the same score. Jeff, you keep saying
you can, but that's not a rule in this game.
Speaker 1: That's always that's the bop game. Okay, fair enough, I.
Speaker 5: Read them verbatim, so y'all, well, don't want yell, let
me h. New rule being introduced here at the very
end of the year, the Jeff Grubb research clause. Each
player is allowed to research one game during the quarterly prediction.
Speaker 1: I like this, that's fun.
Speaker 5: You must announce that you will be researching your game
before you give your prediction to score four said game.
No researching after you have already picked a score. Players
are not allowed to know the remaining games in each
coarly prediction, so that they cannot plan when to use
the research. Players are allowed to research the same game
or different games. So I would like to point out
that when this all started, we just gave you guys
a list of our game, and you didn't pay attention
and you were wondering why you didn't have this information.
We were like, you did add the information, and we
moved it to well, when you're ready, ask us for
the game. That way you'll be ready for them. And
you never asked for the games.
Speaker 3: I never wanted to research. I'm going off of gut
and killing it. That's all I need.
Speaker 5: So this is where we are now. So on the
fly you will be able to basically google one game.
I can call out when you want to. Anyways, start
off with game number one. Mikey going first here. Please
tell me what you think Dragon Ball Sparking zero will get.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a big app tight for this because so
many people miss that more arena fighters style of these
games is going to have that huge roster. I don't
think it's gonna do anything crazy. So I think it's
still like low eighties. May maybe not the lowest of eighties.
It's like part of me wants have said an eighty three,
but it could be lower. I think I feel better
with it. I'm gonna preemptively pick the lower if I
would have said in eighty three and sane eighty two, Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is high seventies, so I'm happy
to pick eighty one and take that under again.
Speaker 5: It might be right, Okay, I think I Mike might
have this one. People are hype over this one. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that hype is actually going to
translate into reviewers, but we'll see.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you have no taste. So game number two
is metaphor refontasio, Jeff, you get to go first on
this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Persona games do well, and this is fantasy
Persona and people like fantasy. It's tough because Christian doesn't
like the demo, so that's gonna make it difficult. I
I'm gonna go with a ninety two.
Speaker 5: Okay, still score right there.
Speaker 1: I literally wanted to say ninety two. Get the right
score for this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I thought that you were gonna, like, not
remember that rser Soona games review well or something.
Speaker 1: It'd say eighties. Shit, I like, for I remember Persona
five Royal like did very.
Speaker 4: Well but tens yeah, right, very good or something.
Speaker 3: God am I I'm gonna say a ninety three.
Speaker 4: I don't think that's a bad idea.
Speaker 5: Thank you?
Speaker 7: All right, all right, all right.
Speaker 4: I like it.
Speaker 5: Game number three, super Mario Party Jamboree.
Speaker 3: I think people are gonna like this one. It is
also the third one of the Switch generations. It was
going to be a little bit of we're kind of
tired of this, even though it might be like one
of the best ones these we had a while. I
think some people were gonna appreciate the new features, but
it's not gonna move people a whole lot, like that
twenty person mode and that weird thing where you're fighting
gets bowser gosh, I definitely want to go I'll just
say in eighty. I'm gonna say eighty on the dot.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's pretty that's a good score for that. Eighties
like the right one, because.
Speaker 1: It could very easily be hind on seventies.
Speaker 2: It could be the one that like gets up into
the low eighties.
Speaker 1: I don't know if any of.
Speaker 2: The Super Mario parties might have been low eighties recently wherever.
I think it's such a bad idea to go the
over here, but it might be the one that does it. Yeah, Okay,
I like I think I I'll probably regret this, but
I'm gonna go over I'll go.
Speaker 5: Eighty one, alrighty game Ormer four Dan Reichertz Call of Duty,
Black Ops six. I'm so piss a snipe this off
of me and Fantasy Craig.
Speaker 2: Mm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a tough one.
Speaker 2: These can these things can be anywhere from well, I mean,
obviously catostrophe, a catastrophe could happen, and it could be
in the sixties, but I don't think that's that's not
on the table here, So it could be anywhere from
seventy five to like eighty five.
Speaker 3: Because of that of debata.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, but you don't have to help him. I
think I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with.
Speaker 3: Like eighty two, Okay, I think people, I think this
is when people are gonna be ready to like, I'm
gonna say eighty four.
Speaker 5: Okay. I will say I liked but didn't love the beta.
So I'm really curious how our people feel about.
Speaker 4: This, and it's related split.
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna depend on the campaign.
Speaker 7: Really, I fucking love that beta.
Speaker 6: You feel so good.
Speaker 5: Game number five Sonic Shadow Generations and the Sonic fan
gets to pick first on this one.
Speaker 1: Mm.
Speaker 3: Interesting Sonic Generation is the original review pretty well? I
think some of that stuff is maybe not gonna age
incredibly great, but also the remastering work is gonna be nice.
I think that the Shadow campaign is actually gonna be
surprisingly well received, and it is pretty beefy, So I
am it's still Sonic, though we know what reviewers feel
about Sonic, so it could very easily be high seventies.
I'll be a bit of an optimistic Sonic guy, though,
I'll say in it's like like partly almost wants to
compare this to like Epic Mickey, which I thought was
a very good remaster, but it's like score is still
a seventy seven, which again is not bad, but it's
like maybe the limit of these things. But there's so
much new content here that I think that's going to
do better than Epic Mickey rebrushed. So I will say
eighty one.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I mean I think that the high seventies
for this one as well. But you said eighty one,
I think I'll go to the seventy nine.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, well again that's fair.
Speaker 5: Game number six Life is Range double Exposure.
Speaker 1: Uh. Jeff Grubb Research Claw.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know what these games reveal
these so what are the rules about what I need
to announce?
Speaker 1: As part of my research.
Speaker 5: Do I have to say you're just claiming this one.
You're just making clear that this is the one you're
doing your research for before.
Speaker 1: Okay, be reasonable here. We don't have all day. Yeah no, no, right,
So I'm just gonna.
Speaker 5: Basically just look up the previous scores.
Speaker 1: For I'm looking up, Yeah, the one for True Colors.
That's what I'm let's know what you see.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, I have to say a score, so I
can't like oil here.
Speaker 5: You don't have to kill me your research, but yeah,
pick a score.
Speaker 1: I do have to pick a score.
Speaker 2: And I think this is the same developer as that one, so.
Speaker 1: I will go with in.
Speaker 5: Eighty alrighty Mikey.
Speaker 3: It's like, I'm sure the people who like these games
are once revealed, yet I feel like maybe it's just me,
and to me, it seems like there's been a lot
of these. There's gotta be some diminishing returns or I
don't know, maybe every time it was like hey, yeah,
a new one of these. Yet like seventy nine things
weird to me. I don't know why I have a
hard time seeing life is strange in seventies, although maybe
it's been there before already. Yeah, I'll be passed. I've
been too optimistic before. I'll be pessimistic and say seventy nine.
Speaker 2: It an It got an eighty one on Open Critics,
so I'm like, I kind of did a little bit
an under but I think I would if I was
in your situation, I probably would have gone to seventy
nine to two.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 5: Game number seven, Dragon Age The Veil Guard.
Speaker 3: This one is difficult. It's been so long. There are
so many kind of hopes and dreams tied to this one,
so many things that people specifically want about Dragon Age
and from different games. I think it looks very good,
and those that preview event was glowing. It's going so
much that some people assumed it was a conspiracy theory,
which was insane. Yeah, I think I think it's gonna
do pretty well. I don't know if it's gonna be astronomical.
I definitely think high eighties at least, though maybe not
the highest of eighties, because I think there's gonna be
some people are gonna bristle at its kind of more
linear nature, and it's kind of like like after after
getting like the Super Fantasy RPG, like D twenties and
all that with Botus Gate three, and this one's gonna
be like the somber summer blockbuster version of that. Some
people might bristle gets that a little bit, so I'll
say eighty seven.
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, this is an easy over for me
because I I think it's gonna be in the nineties.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna say I'll just say eighty eight.
Speaker 4: Okay, Powered.
Speaker 5: Game number eight, Batman Arkham Shadow, Jeff oh Man.
Speaker 2: Okay, uh I this is from actually rock Steady.
Speaker 7: This is the b our game, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is it from Rockstendy?
Speaker 4: Do you even know that?
Speaker 2: I'm going to say it will get a I think
it's gonna be a good VR game, which puts it
as seventy six.
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, it's hard to say, Like, I just
think people's appetites for this kind of thing are so toasted.
Although if you're reviewing VR games, they be.
Speaker 1: It not from rock Steady.
Speaker 3: Okay, no, never mind, I think they're from rock Steady.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, it's from It's from Camouflage. That's right.
Speaker 3: That's why it's going to actually be more like what
you say, seventy six. Yeah, that's why it's actually going
to be a seventy four. I'm not doing this only
one under cowardly bullshit anymore.
Speaker 5: You wonder the.
Speaker 3: Brave in the bowl. That's a Batman reference.
Speaker 4: See not bad, not bad?
Speaker 5: Uh? Game number nine Mario and Luigi Brothership.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's interesting because like, what the hell do we
go on here? It's been so long since an actual
one of these generally well liked, Like there's a world
where this gets reviewed very very well. Yeah, that was
In Your Door remake did very well in reviews.
Speaker 4: That's the game.
Speaker 3: We already knew it was very good. Ah, it's like
a different developer now, of course, although a lot of
our original people the game looks pretty you know, these
things can kind of they can be misguided.
Speaker 4: Sometimes.
Speaker 3: We've had Martin Luigi games that are a bit bloated
and talky and don't really be as good. They're not
as good as you want them to be. I am
hopeful for this one, but maybe still a bit reserved.
I'm going to say an eighty four alrighty, yeah, I
think that's.
Speaker 2: A pretty good Like that's probably the right place to
put your mind for this game. I have this in
my Fantasy critics, so I'm gonna like build in some
of that optimism here if there's a chance this game
is super good and gets like an eighty eight. But
I will go with because I think about again, if
I was in your situation, I probably would have said
eighty four as well.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with eighty five and hope for
the best.
Speaker 5: Alrighty, next game. Jeff Grub's title of the year Slitterhead.
Speaker 1: Yeah there is, man.
Speaker 2: I this is one that I I've only ever really
thought about how funny it is to say the name,
and I can't remember anything else about it. I mean,
I know it's supposed to be kind of like Silent
Hill inspired.
Speaker 1: I think I think like a safe number for this
one is like seventy eight. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even know what the researcher if I could,
I but.
Speaker 1: I don't know why.
Speaker 3: It's like I'm like, I should I should think about
Callisto protocol.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give it a seventy five. Give it a
seventy five predicted seventy five. That's wow.
Speaker 5: Wow, he's gonna review this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a game journalist.
Speaker 5: He caught me.
Speaker 1: I do it all.
Speaker 5: Mikey's Skewing Things Dragon Quest three HD two D remake.
Speaker 3: Mike Man, Uh, It's this is one that does depend
who's gonna review, because I think there are just gonna
be some people like, well, the game's kind of oh
even though I think, oh God, I think it's such
a good looking remake. I got to play this. I
am as high on this as can Beah, It's like
I gotta remember, like again, I said Thousand Year Door
did really want reviews, but it's still like in eighty nine,
even though I think it was like a very well done,
essentially remake on one of the best RPGs ever, there's
more work going on here. This isn't even more beloved
game than Thousand Years Door low maybe not quite as
much in the West.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: I kind of want to go a little nuts here,
and I'm trying to tuck myself out of it, and
yet I don't know if I should. I'm gonna I'm
gonna say a ninety.
Speaker 2: Who Yeah, I mean I was kind of hoping you
would go like eighty seven so I could have all
of that real estate above the I think ninety is
a good score. That kind of stinks. I don't want
to go lower here, but I have to just because, Yeah,
I think you're right that there will maybe be a
handful of people who are going to feel the age
more than others and maybe draw it down to like
an eighty eight, So I'll go with I'll go with
an eighty eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, I think it's it's very much a
world where gets an eighty, which is all.
Speaker 5: I'd have been like a ninety four, you know.
Speaker 1: I think there's a gets ninety four too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I need them Lego Horizon Adventures.
I am disappointed Wall for not putting the leafblower gift here.
I'm sure he'll get it next time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, next time. Yeah. Okay, let's see. I played this.
I enjoyed it. What does that mean? I don't know, right, yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah. Jeff Grub was very confused.
Speaker 1: He's like, Horizon cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh it's Horison bad.
Speaker 2: It's cute, it's funny, it looks good, it plays fine,
pretty good, you know. I guess a lot of it
depends on like how robust is the content, and I
have no idea what the guest there, but I think
they probably wouldn't skimp on it, so I feel like
this one's gonna be like a one that wins a
lot of people over and does like a good, solid
eighty two.
Speaker 3: I think people are gonna like it, but I do
think a little bit of that Horizon fatigue, especially among
people who review video games, and you know, it is
gonna be a game ultimately kind of for kids, so
all the adults playing it might they might drag it
down a little bit for him. They're gonna like it.
They're going to like a seventy eight, like it seventy eight, Yeah,
seventy eight, Okay, got game number thirteen, Microsoft Flight Simulator twenty.
This isn't fair. They juice Jeff up. They let him
fly an airplane.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna let him figure it out. I
just associate this one so much with Jeff.
Speaker 5: I just letting him simmer and though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly let them think.
Speaker 3: Gosh, the last one reviewed very well, but it was
also a very long time since that came out. But boy,
the sickos who liked these games, they like these games,
and they are gamifying it more, which I think is
really smart. I think people are going to be on
board with that. Might be some people who like maybe
are like, I don't know if they really needed to
make a new one of these. I don't think so.
I think it's gonna review pretty well, maybe not quite
as well as the last one, because again there was
such a gap there. Maybe maybe eighty nine this time, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I think that I forced me to have
to go the over. I'll go with ninety and I
think it probably will end up right around ninety ninety one.
Would love for it to be a ninety one and
get me those bonus points in Fantasy Cretic.
Speaker 4: But that's right.
Speaker 1: I think it's probably going to be a ninety.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, Game fourteen Stalker two.
Speaker 2: This is a tough one. Like, I really don't. I
guess I could have tried to play at Summer Game Fest.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: I I think that there's a lot of high expectations
because there's a lot of people who really like Stalker.
They've delayed a bunch of times. I'm like afraid to
be too pessimistic here, although I think that's probably the
safe move.
Speaker 1: I'll go with.
Speaker 3: Seventy nine, Okay, Mike, really no, I think it's gonna
be better than that. I think it's gonna be like
in eighty three, Locking in eighty three, Locking in eighty three.
Speaker 5: Okay, Game number fifteen India Jones and the Great Circle. Now, Mike,
this is the last game. Would like to use a research?
Speaker 1: Has good as a research?
Speaker 3: All right, Let's see what was the rotten tomatoes for
Jones and the Dial of Destiny. Let's see a seventy percent,
which is apparently an eighty eight percent popcorn meter. Pretty
good eight percent popcorn meter, huh. I think I'm gonna
go with that.
Speaker 1: I think that's the people's vote there, and you know me,
I'm all about the people. But maybe maybe not quite
as eye as that, but so pretty high.
Speaker 3: I think maybe like an eighty seven is gonna be
a better bet here for ol Indy.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you said eighty seven.
Speaker 2: In eighty seven, sir, that's really good. I think that's
probably where this skin's up. I think it's like eighty
six to eighty eight. If it's like it's really good,
I think it gets up to like eighty eight.
Speaker 1: That's like tough.
Speaker 2: And I I think that it like machine games, does
such good storytelling, such great characters, and sometimes their games
are also very fun to play, and sometimes.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit of a slog.
Speaker 2: I think that with this one, as much time as
they taken, they probably will dial in on, you know,
sorry for this dial of destiny, in to the best,
for the best version of this game can be.
Speaker 1: And I think that's a fucking eighty seven. So fuck you.
Speaker 5: God.
Speaker 3: I guess you can go for the full popcorn meter.
I'll go score of eighty eight. I'm gonna be more
of a man of the people.
Speaker 1: Than I am. I'll go eighty eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I have to have faith that this
game is going to be really good eyth in the
popcorn meter, faith in the popcorn meter. I'll go with
eighty eight.
Speaker 5: Righty, Well, let me slide your predictions into view over
here and summarize them for the audio listeners. That means
that Dragonball Sparking zero, Jeff is guessing eighty one, Mike
eighty two, Metaphor Refontasio Jeff going ninety two, Mike ninety three,
Super Mario Party Jamboree Jeff eighty one, Mike eighty Call
of Duty, Black Ops six Jeff eighty two, Mike eighty four,
Sonic Shadow Generations Jeff seventy nine, Mike eighty one, life
is Strange. Double Exposure Jeff eighty, Mike's seventy nine, Dragon Age,
The Veil Guard Jeff eighty eight, Mike eighty seven, Batman
Arkham Shadow Jeff with seventy six, Mike with seventy four,
Mario Luigi Brothership Jeff Guessing eighty five, Mike eighty four,
Slitterhead Jeff was seventy eight, Mike was seventy five, Dragon
Quest three, HD two d Remake Jeff says eighty eight,
Mike says ninety Lego Horizon Adventures Jeff with eighty two,
Mike was seventy eight, Microsoft Flights in twenty twenty four,
Jeff ninety, Mike eighty nine, Stalker two Jeff seventy nine,
Mike eighty three, and Indiana Jones and the Great Circle
Jeff with eighty eight, Mike with eighty seven. Wolf hopes
you all have fun now and for the love of God,
Jeff win at least one quarter so Mike's ego doesn't grow.
Speaker 2: I guess a good point, like, what is the point
of doing it by quarters?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: I know we could we have finished this year. Do
it by quarters? I agree, that's fine. That's how we
started the year. But next year, why wouldn't we just
do it by aggregate score, the way every sport is played.
Speaker 5: Because when we do it quarterly gives us content.
Speaker 2: Well no, no, no, we still do it like, yes,
there's a quarters in football, but the only scoring.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, like.
Speaker 5: A problem with this one.
Speaker 3: It's weird that it didn't occur to me, the commissioner
problem with.
Speaker 2: Listen, I do have a problem because I'm losing obviously,
like obviously, like I'm not going to pretend that's not it.
But also it would make it better. The next quarter
wouldn't be pointless.
Speaker 3: Just give it as a per quarter game, Jeff, Now
that's all you're fighting for, you user.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'll look at it that way clearly, But
what if it was that way.
Speaker 5: I'll let Wolf say anything if you want, so, I
know he's in chat right now. But Iole, assume it's
because we don't get enough firm, solid release dates a
year in advance when you we had had to play
this all out.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, yeah, but we still do it the exact
same way, except the scoring is just done where it's aggregate,
where it's like okay, so now.
Speaker 5: You just want the scoring specifically to be who ever
got the most over the course of the year.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, And you could still like, okay, hey, that
you won that quarter, like just like anyone, like like
the commenting on a football game, be like, all right,
that team won that quarter, but there's still a lot
of football left to play. I just think, I think,
I think a better game. And also I wouldn't be
in this situation again next year, which on your own time,
we have another game whining as much as just making
a very compelling and interesting point.
Speaker 6: Another point is you will make Mike really angry, and
that's just funny.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: I also like this is this is a good point
to tg in chat this field. Right now, it feels
like we're in the electoral college where it should be like,
let's say I win every single one of these games,
and the next quarter, what did it suck to be like, oh,
Jeff dominated, Mike still won the year because we were
playing for no reason.
Speaker 1: We want to come out racy, goddamn. I just think
that every vote should matter.
Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of bad teams play good
baseball in September, Jeff doesn't get them to the World Series.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then okay, well then you can go play the
playoffs by yourself.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Anyways, anyways, I would like to remind everyone, you know,
we heard about the community making their predictions for each
quarter right here in the game. Just friendly reminder if
you want to do that, that is available to supporters.
So everything I Jeff mentioned at the Topless show, if
you're a Patreon supporter, if you're a YouTube member, Twitch subscriber,
any of those things get you into the discord where
we do all these prediction games.
Speaker 2: Also, I guarantee you I get every single one on
the next one, every single.
Speaker 1: Everything, every single one in the next one. You could
change the.
Speaker 2: Rule in this cool awesome and I'm gonna get all fifteen, right,
I guarantee it.
Speaker 1: I gure we're in the Okay, great, you can just
say anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, people will take this clip and they'll
play it back and that'll be very funny.
Speaker 1: When I don't say anything, it rules.
Speaker 3: Hey, we got a whole another game to play, all right.
Speaker 1: We're we're gonna get that set up right after this.
Speaker 2: Let me place on that one too, and we're back
and it's time to fix a list.
Speaker 1: The fixed list. What is the name of this exactly?
Speaker 2: What will you officially call it the list fixers, fix
a list.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's time to fix a list.
Speaker 2: We have a list here from mister Zachary Wiggs at
the Gamer. These are right for the Gamer. Yes, yes,
I did not review the medium for the Gamer. Yeah,
they gave it a perfect score. We have it a
perfect score.
Speaker 1: The game I haven't played, order.
Speaker 2: For the Road for games war for you to look
the ten best PS two games of all time. So
even if another PS two game releases, no, these are
the ten best.
Speaker 1: That's how it works.
Speaker 2: Okay, the goes on here. He has got an intro.
I can hop into it. We can just run it
down and then we can fix this list. Does that
sounds right?
Speaker 3: And this one is number only, our last one, and
I'm gonna warn you right now. Look, you know these
things are very personal. There's not just thing as a
bad list. I like this list less than the any
s one we did before. I think there's more fixing
to do here.
Speaker 2: Okay, sounds good and there is. Uh, there are bad lists,
that's why we're fixing them. Get get on the fucking game.
Come on, Mike, you don't don't.
Speaker 3: I mean, this person should fill back the business look,
I'm gonna dig into the list very soon. You're don't worry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no hard feeling. Zachary Wiggs.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Number ten, Oh, comy your favorite game?
Speaker 1: I mean, I know people like it.
Speaker 2: I think this is mostly an problem, but I'm not
gonna put it on my top ten list.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: We'll get there, We'll get there.
Speaker 1: Number nine kill Zone. That's so, that's the first wild one.
It's kill Zone one. Wait, kill one kills on one kills.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the only one I was on.
Speaker 4: P two is.
Speaker 1: But just like kill Zone one is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't I don't even really remember anyone talking
that much about kill Zone one until, like for the
PS two, for the PS two, it wasn't until kill
Zone two came out. Was it until that trailer for
kill Zone two came out that I ever heard of
that franchise?
Speaker 1: So PS two games.
Speaker 2: I remember kill Zone supposed to be the Halo killer
and then it came out and no one cared.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I mean I remember that one.
Speaker 4: I barely get it.
Speaker 3: I barely remember it even happening with the first kill Zone,
But there it is.
Speaker 1: Number eight Silent Hill two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine. That's obviously very very popular one. Number
seven Sly Cooper, Sure, the Devious Raccoons. Number six, Resident
Evil four.
Speaker 3: I have a problem with this because that's just a
worst part of the GameCube game version. It's well, so
it does. It is the first one I think that
had separate ways, so that's something. But the game looked worse.
The pre rendered cutscenes I thought, think looked awful on it.
Speaker 1: It looks bad. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's still res
Evil four.
Speaker 3: It's just like there's compromises here, and I want I
don't like you tell you, Yeah, you asked me to
stop talking about or start talking about, like try again,
you asked me to start talking about PS two games.
It's gonna take a while before I get to I
don't know Resue before.
Speaker 1: I just I think that what you originally the accidentally said.
Speaker 2: If I asked you start to talk about Resue four,
the PS two version probably never comes up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll talk about you know, game Kouzzes original talk
about we even like.
Speaker 1: Some of the modern versions, the R version.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the remake, but not the no PS two
I don't know. Number five Shadow of the Classes, sure, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I think so. Uh. Number four Grand Theft Auto San Andreas.
Yeah makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hard hard to argue with number three. Middle your solid.
Speaker 3: Snake Eater probably one of my favorites, absolutely.
Speaker 1: Number number two Half Life for PlayStation two. I did
like this, Uh yeah, that's a look.
Speaker 3: What half Fight. But PS two is a is a
port that I took. It had co op campaign added
to it. That's wild at number two. But Halfway is
a great game. It's just you know the PC game Halfway.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: There are so many PS two games, Jeff there so yeah,
see the PS two point of Half Life at number two,
What does he say about it?
Speaker 2: Everyone may be waiting on the next installment of the series,
but at least we all have fond memories of the
original Half Life from the PS two era.
Speaker 3: I would never ever describe Half Life as a game
from the PS two era.
Speaker 1: Well, because it's not. It's not right. Yeah, came out,
It's lucky not It's just.
Speaker 2: Not Gordon Freeman maybe a silent protagonist, but maybe the
shock of an invasion of Earth beginning at his research
facility has scared him quiet. It's such a fun look
into science fiction and early first person shooter game. Well,
we're all still curious about where the Stuart story will end,
it is still fun to go and look at where
it all began. So just keep an eye out for
the g man as trouble always seems to fall up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Halfway's a good game, but like, why a
PS two version of Half Life, which was an old
game already. It's like, I think it's supposed to be
like a decent port but you know you're playing on
a PS two. That's a weird choice.
Speaker 2: It's a worst example of what we were talking about
with the resumeable four, where it's like, just because it is,
it's not the version of that game, and there's so
many PS two games it feels like you are doing
a disservice to something that you've omitted to include this.
Speaker 1: And at number two, number one Got of War.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's fine, that's look after being shocked, right, yeah,
the Half Life, I'm like, okay, that's reasonable. Yeah, that's reasonable.
I don't think I do it at number one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean probably me neither for a PS two games.
I like Got of War a whole bunch, but probably
not number one. But listen, I think about half this
list is games are like oh yeah, and the other
Half's got a lot of head scratchers in there. I'm
going to go ahead, let me actually add these in here. Mike,
do you have like the actual list in front of
you that you could just read to me?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, sure. You want me to start from ten, yeah,
start from ten? Yeah.
Speaker 3: So at number ten is Okami, number nine is kill Zone,
kill Zone eight to Sound Hill, two seven is Sly Cooper,
Sex is Resident Evil, four, five is Show of the Colossus,
four is Grenth the Thought of Son Andreas, three is
Melgar saw A three steak Eater, two is half Life,
and one is God of War. I think the first
thing we do to fix this list is just get
rid of some of these immediately.
Speaker 1: Yes, definitely, ow me get this numbering in here.
Speaker 3: So, like I think we could just I think we
could just kind of immediately get rid of kill Zone,
Resident Evil four and half Life.
Speaker 2: Right, okay, so goodbye Half Life. Well, I mean that
it's the list, so little will do this. We'll copy
it over here, copy, I believe, and you go, wait,
fuck Jesus, there we go. All right, So getting rid
of flip yep, doing great excel is my passion. We're
getting rid of Reson Evil. For right, we're getting rid
of kill Zone and what was the other one?
Speaker 3: I think that's it sers of ones that obviously get
to be taken away, I think.
Speaker 2: Okay, and then okay, So that leaves us with right
for now, leaves us with there's.
Speaker 1: No guarantee any of these make it.
Speaker 2: Some of them almost certainly will, uh, but nothing is
guaranteed to stay until we actually solidify it in our fix.
That that leaves us with Okami, Silent Hill two, Sly Cooper,
Shadow of the Classus, Grand Theft, Auto San Andreas, Metal Gear,
Salade three, Snake Eater, and God of War.
Speaker 3: Well maybe we should both say what we think them
what appears to us to be the most glaring omission.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well go ahead and start, because I'm like,
I'm like trying to like pick my one.
Speaker 3: Uh gosh, even like I'm sorry, I'm like to look
at even like games Radars list, which is like, you know,
not as wacky, but even there, like Resiquel four at four,
I'm like, really, you guys, are I mean four?
Speaker 2: If you like all things being equal, Resival four is
better than most games on PS two. Uh that that
I get that, but it's just when I'm putting together
the list of best PS two games, it doesn't occur
to me until I get through several others first. Okay,
all right, look, I'll say cater Parts two. Sure, yeah,
I mean I get it, Game Hearts too. I have
no nothing against Kingdom Hearts too. Okay, let's see all right,
let me see here King Hearts two. Okay, yes, I
think and at the PS two version would be the
one that would matter. Tonyawk's pro Skater three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe the what I was gonna say, boy, but
like I definitely just say that one. Yeah, Tyaks pro
Scare three should have it out late be on here.
I know there's a lot of good PS two era
Tonyawk games, but this is definitely my favorite one, more
so than the Thugs, more so than four. Absolutely needs
to have it.
Speaker 1: Yep. Okay, what else you got?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks to me like maybe Zecher here isn't
much of a j RPG fan, and I think there
are two very good final fantasies on here. I will
say Phantasy twelve got better with like it's remaster, and
ten maybe actually got worse. So I think I actually
say Fantasy ten that was such a big game, big
and poor game for the system. I think Found Fantasy
ten should really be on here, definitely be heavily considered.
Speaker 2: Okay, Final Fantasy ten, me increase that font size.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Guy, Even that before, I like fan Fantasy. I remember
watching my brother just play a lot of it, and
it was just so shocking how from the future that
game seemed. Even the fact that the game had like
voice that thing was.
Speaker 4: Like, well, you know, yes, totally.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I'm like trying not to go like immediately to like
third party games or non exclusives, but well, you know,
I mean there's, uh, I like God of War one,
but uh I think I like God of War three
was PS two as well? Right, No, so okay that
was part of two one and two. Okay, then maybe
it's two I'm thinking of, but I don't know, that's
not one. You know what I'm gonna go with what
I was originally thinking. Burnout three Takedown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like, that's fine.
Speaker 3: I just that's when I associate with xboxes because that's
where I played it.
Speaker 4: But that's fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that, yes, but like, and that's why
I'm saying, like third party games are gonna be a
little bit weird, but I want to get them.
Speaker 1: On the list for consideration at least.
Speaker 3: M hm hmmm. I'm trying to think of like, yeah,
I'm thinking of other racing games. I know people really
like the Grid charismos for this generation. I don't know
how much I get I get worked up about that.
It's say, there's a lot of good three D platformers
on the system and I just haven't played Slide. I
know there's there's there's people like it, so I don't
want to just discount Slide. Yeah, but immediately, I I
like the Ratchet clicks a lot. But I also I
do like Jack and Dexter the precursor legacy a lot.
I think it's especially for all the ones I consideration,
we could we could do. It's Jack's weird because because
there's some people who are like gonna really push for
Jack two. I like Jack one because it's the one
that's the most like Mario sixty four basically, so I
probably go there and then, uh, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, I can't believe you would forget the.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot the subtitle embarrassing. I know I always
and I to actually kind of forget like which are
the first three Ratchet games people are the most passionate about,
because the ones I honestly really care about is Cracking
Time and now the newer one. So I don't know,
Ratchet Three's best. Okay, then right, clink three, that's up
your arsenal, up your arsenal. Yeah, okay, Jilly Commandos two.
There you go, he did it.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: Okay. I mean, I have like a handful of other
third party games. I kind of would be interested to
maybe throw a bunch of out and kind of see
what your appetite.
Speaker 1: Is for him.
Speaker 3: Sure, good Prince of Persia The Sands of Time. I just, uh,
I don't know, you know, it's funny. I was thinking
about this meme even in my head. I was at
the retrostore looking at PS two games. It is like
I was thinking of like the the guy comes into
Floir with the lady works of the office, and I'm like,
original game for PS two, It's like, oh, you're so sweet.
Then it's like multi platform game that's on PS two.
It's like ahhrh, Yeah, it's kind of.
Speaker 2: Oh, this is the worst version of Prince of Persia
Sands Time. And that's why I'm like, I want to
like kind of see how you because I think I
agree with that for the most.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just like don't want it. I just like, nah, no, okay,
the Simpsons hit and Run, no game killing like Soul
Caliber two, absolutely not right, yep?
Speaker 3: How Dare You?
Speaker 1: Was the Warriors multi platform?
Speaker 2: That one might not be but I never played it. Okay,
that's a good game, but I don't know if it's
top ten worthy.
Speaker 3: So it was like, so, so chat just said Katamari
and that's one that's like only on PS two, and
it's like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, KEMBARTMSI is definitely gonna get considered.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So like that's like that's like the stuff like
when I think about them, especially when we're thinking ten
best PS two games, I just don't think these like
inferior versions of multi platform games are really going to
be able to make the cut yep.
Speaker 2: And that's like I think all those things make the
PS two library incredible, but I don't think they make
the top ten.
Speaker 3: And there were some like like like telling you Frost
Gadar three is multiplatform, but that one just actually does
like kind of feel best on PlayStation two and had
the network play and whatnot.
Speaker 2: So that was fun Yeah, you're not going to play
that on a Xbox controller jesus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about U? What about Twisted Metal? Black?
Speaker 3: People don't talk about It's funny even though the show
was popular enough and so fear like, people don't talk
about Twist the Metal a lot and somehow Black.
Speaker 2: I've never been a Twisted Metal guy personally, can and
I know Black is one of the good ones, and
I think I've played it before, but just never moved
me all that much.
Speaker 1: I thought those guys were kind of boring.
Speaker 3: Here's here's one that's a very well like the game
of the game that you reviewed well, and it was
PS two exclusive I believe at the time is de
Will Make Cry three.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was wondering if you bring up the Devil
May Cry game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think for a lot of people,
I know people might say five. Not I think a
lot people would still say that's the best entry in
that series.
Speaker 1: So that makes sense, okay, Uh.
Speaker 2: For me, I think we kind of get to a
point where a lot I think I have a lot
of this stuff. I'm glad people reminded me of a
Katamari Demosi because that's definitely one I think the last
like sort of maybe deep Cut that I love, love
love it would be on my top ten is Mark
of Cree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I like Mark Cree. Fine.
Speaker 3: I think it's like top ten is maybe a tall
order for because again, there are so any good PS
two games.
Speaker 2: I mean for me, it's one that like probably sneaks
in at number ten on my personal list, so I
could see it not making our list together here as
we're fixing things. Uh yeah, Sean did does mention Persona four?
I was gonna let you decide that.
Speaker 3: My thing with the Persona game, I think that I'm
just gonna.
Speaker 5: Not for a Persona come on with resumeable for I get,
but not for person It's different.
Speaker 3: They just like made that game better with Golden and
it doesn't.
Speaker 5: Make it not exist on the PS two.
Speaker 3: For me, I'm like, I'm not I'm never gonna play
that version. I'm gonna play I'm gonna play Golden.
Speaker 5: All right, listeners. I tried, I tried, I tried.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you. I appreciate you, and like same thing
with with three, even like even I probably liked Portable
more than the base game, even though there were some
compromises and then uh, then we have the remake. Now
I'm just gonna play that. Yeah, maybe we should, maybe
we should start working from here. I'm sure there's a
lot of PS two games again, like we didn't do
like the Grit Trismos just not necessarily are thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, like we have Grand Theft out of San
Andres up there, but I also like Vice City and three,
But sant Andres probably is the one we won on
the list.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I Thinkres probably makes the most sense. Like, yeah,
it's just.
Speaker 2: Like it's the best personally. That's definitely like a nostalgia
thing for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I probably would feel most. I think Sandres
makes the most sense.
Speaker 1: It's the one.
Speaker 2: It's the one that, like, again, if we're trying to
put a list out there, it feels like, oh, we're
fixing the list because it has the right games on it.
Speaker 1: I think it's San Andres.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like some there's definitely some that are like
big fan favorites, like dark Cloud two. I just don't
really know a ton about it personally or well, how
do you feel. You know, there's stuff like Amplitude or
even the you know, guitar hero right guitar guitar room man,
but tar room man. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: These are part of the tapestry of what makes the
PS two library so impressive.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if any of.
Speaker 3: Those fantasy this list ten is on there. We have
a whole discussion about it. I think I think we
have our ted gabs probably on here. Maybe we should
fix so we have right now we have space for three,
but you can also get rid of some other ones.
What three do we definitely want to push it? I
think we both are agreement that Tony Sprostkater three needs
to be up there.
Speaker 1: Yes, definitely, that's easy. And I think I think you
like Kingdom Heart's two enough to justify it being up there.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I think it should at least be
on there.
Speaker 1: It looks it looks right on that list.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, I think I immediately jumped to Katamari,
but I get like Final Fantasy ten should probably be
up there, well, a Final Fantasy.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think maybe I think maybe both those should be
up there. I think I think you put katamar in
there now, and like I probably would eventually get rid
of something here for Kadam for a Final Fantasy ten.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, So so for audio listeners right now, here's the
ten that we're the new working list. Okami, Tony Oks,
pro Skater three, Silent Hell two, Sly Cooper, Kingdom Hearts two,
Shadow the Colossus, Grand Theft, Auto, San Andreas, Middle Your
Solid three, Snake Eater, Katamari Demasi, and God of War.
I think there's like, I mean, I don't know, maybe
I can bold some of these that that are definitely staying.
Like for me, I think Shadow of the Colossus is
definitely stand up.
Speaker 3: That Sould Class is a lock, and we just put
on Keno Marts two and Tonios first K three, so
those are obviously not going anywhere, right.
Speaker 1: Snake Eater is a lock.
Speaker 3: But subsistence Yeah, yeah, we're fixing that part of it
for sure.
Speaker 2: That's actually it's actually crazy for it not to be subsistence.
Speaker 3: Part of me is like it was just subsistence. You
don't even have to keep the Snake Eater a part.
Speaker 1: Okay, subsistence all.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm here to help you with the subtitles on again.
Speaker 1: SubTime, mister subtitles. Yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we kind of talked about this, but got of
War one versus two it's like I feel like, I
know two is a better game, and yet one is
more memorable for me, And part of me is like, look,
that was this guy's number one game. Maybe we should
respect that at least. I don't know if we can
get rid of his.
Speaker 1: Number one game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the argument that God of War
is like also one of the ten best games probably,
and it's like, eh, maybe.
Speaker 1: It's a matter of do you want to take out
of War one or two? I think we keep God
of War.
Speaker 2: On one on there and recognize that that's the reason
got of War two, isn't.
Speaker 1: I think we should get rid of Okami.
Speaker 3: Look, I like Okami. Fine about top ten is a
that's hard for me. Let's get how about we put
found fifty ten on there? Get rid of a Kami
sounds good?
Speaker 1: Yay, this is so foul.
Speaker 7: This is messed up.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And Silent Hill two, Gosh, there's some there's a
lot there. I like Sound O two. I don't think
I like as much as some people. But it's you know,
part of this, like this isn't just necessarily us. It's
us trying to make like what we think would be
the list for multiple people and like a lot of
people do like Sound Hill two and that is definitely gay.
It did come on Xbox, but I'm think it is
like Eddie significantly. Well, okay, it's a PS two first game.
Speaker 2: Like, let's complete the conversation, what do you think could
replace Silent Hill Too.
Speaker 3: That's one of the things is that I think Silent
Hill Too fills a niche here that maybe we don't
easily get to replace, especially since we took down Resident
Evil four and there's really a great other Resident Evil
game here because that that franchise was so GameCube coded
this generation. Yeah, it's like I feel Science two sound
Hill two feels a very nice niche and maybe that's
why I would keep it on the list.
Speaker 1: Okay, that sounds good.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I guess maybe we can have the conversation
of we do have sly Cooper up there, but that
is keeping off Jack and Daxter and Ratchet and Clank.
Speaker 3: There's a part of me that's fine with that. Again,
even I've really played, it's like Cooper, people seem so
into it, and I just kind of believe them. So
it's like Cooper being the one that gets that recognition.
That's that's completely okay with me, Okay, that.
Speaker 2: Works for me, all right, So here's what we're leaving off.
The list still is Burnout three, Takedown, Jack and Daxter,
the Precursor, Legacy, Ratchet and Clank, Up your Arsenal, Devil
May Cry three, and then I just put O Comed
down here for some reason. Obviously a whole list of
other potential PlayStation two games, but those are the ones
that we have kind of a discussion maybe thinking none
of those are actually gonna make the cut.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: The Devil Make Cry three is the one that's hurting
me the most not having on there.
Speaker 1: Honestly, well, what's the what's the most on the bubble
for you? If you want to have that conversation real.
Speaker 3: Quick, right, that's the problem, Like it maybe is stylin
Hill two right now, I'm like, well, you know, Belbay
Cry three is also filling a niche that's maybe not
really happening here. I guess kenam Wort's two sort of
is for sure just being an action game.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, God of War is character action.
I know that it's different than Devil mat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, it's you're right, It's it's close enough.
Speaker 1: But I mean do you want to tell make Crith
three instead of Got a War?
Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of do, but I definitely think
that Devil May Cry three is probably a better game
than God War.
Speaker 7: You should you should just have a conversation. I want
to leave in the number one.
Speaker 3: And because I know there's apartment. It's like, this is
like what we're fixing the list. I don't know if
we're like desecrating it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm noticed if it gets desecrated kind of maybe
so be it a little bit like it's, uh, we
got to do the work here.
Speaker 7: All right, I'll follow you whatever you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike, I'm gonna leave this up to you. But
I think I guess you have your back either way.
Like if you want to get rid of Got a War,
I'm I'm fine with it.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I think we got to do what's right for the
for for for the list and for the people who
need to know what the best ten PS two games are.
I think we got to replace God of War. That
would make Cry three.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: Here it is, everybody's here for it now.
Speaker 3: Look, I don't know. I know I'm a bit of
a freak about being specific. I don't know if I
need you the write special edition on there not if
it's fine the way it is. I think people understand
it's okay, just like I don't need a right final
mix for Kindo heartes. You did it anyways, think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did it anyways. H It's like Cooper the
Thivious Raccoons. It is the Thievious Raccoonis. But hey, look,
if you don't't have to write that, I kind.
Speaker 1: Of don't want to have to write Raccoon ISS today.
I wouldn't work up to that.
Speaker 2: It was like definitely not thinking. I hope I get
to write Raccoonis.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: The new working list and this is kind of not
an order yet. Final Fantasy ten, Tony Hawk's pro Skater three,
Silent Hill two, Sly Cooper, Kingdom Hearts two, Shadow of
the Colausus, Grand Theft, Auto, San Andreas, Meddle, gear Sawad three, Subsistence,
Katamari Demassi, and Devil May Cry three Special Edition.
Speaker 3: Now we got to get the order right, that's right,
And I think at this one it's easier to work
from the top, like what's number one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think there's like a.
Speaker 3: Few that, like I you know, out there, I'm gonna
get you to do Kenowith two at number one. I
don't know if I would either, but like pro Scare
three at number one, I feel good about that. Subsistence
I feel good about at number one, Child of the Clausus,
I feel good at number those like the three. I
think for me, I would viye for number one.
Speaker 1: What was the first one?
Speaker 5: Again?
Speaker 1: So sorry tonasro Skater three, right.
Speaker 2: Tonics pro Skater three, Shadow of the Classus and subsistence subsistence, Okay,
I mean listen for me personally, I think it's Tony
Oak's pro Skater three. I also think it's like the
most easy one to recommend to a wider audience. That's
that would be my argument. But I I think I
also see, like when I imagine the list see metal
Gear Solid three, Subsistence at number one is like one
where it's like, okay, yeah, of course God Shadow the
Clauses too, though.
Speaker 3: Class that's like, so I don't know that's so PS
two coded.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's to me, it's like the most PS two game.
It's the th reason I got.
Speaker 1: A PS two.
Speaker 3: I think I kind of like, I think I might
actually like shot the classes there the most.
Speaker 1: I love to hear that.
Speaker 2: Okay, fantastic, I can easily agree with that. Okay, there
we go shadow the Clausus at number one. Okay, so
then at that point, do then do we want to
do middle Gear Salad three, then Tony Oaks pro Skater three.
Speaker 3: We could do Tony Hawk too if you want.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Tonyoka two actually makes sense that at
that point, And I don't think there's anything wrong with
subsistence at number three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that seems good to me.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, then do we want to just kind
of do we want to make another like a big
move here, like a big splash, like do a Katamari
Demasi or.
Speaker 1: M or has ever been my thing?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to leave it to you if you
think it's that good, To be honest, I.
Speaker 2: Think it's like it's it's like when you have a
PS two and you're and you're getting it for all
these other things, and then you hear about this Katamari
game and as soon as it like gets released localized,
you get it and you're like, wow, this is way
more fun than I even thought it would be.
Speaker 1: It's awesome. It's I think it is.
Speaker 2: It is a top ten game, but I'm I don't
think we need to push it that high. We can
like leave that for now. And what do you think
goes here?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I'm a Keenum Hearts two freaks.
I wouldn't mind it being there.
Speaker 2: See what else I mean I would I'd probably, I
guess i'd put Grand Theft Auto there, but uh, I'm
fine with the Kingdom Hearts Hearts, Okay, Hearts two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you.
Speaker 3: Know, I'll be fucking I'll be five if you want
to pu Katamori before Gretha Thoto, but I'll leave that
to you.
Speaker 1: Let's see what that looks like.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that I probably want like Silent Hill
two last.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that works for me. Then maybe sly Cooper.
Speaker 2: Since we were like, don't have a lot of nine
and okay, so then so then here's how the whist
goes now, Silent Hill two at ten then sly Cooper
Final Fantasy ten, Devil May Cry three, Special Edition, Grand
Theft Auto, san Andreas Katamari Demasi, Kingdom Hearts two. Number
three is middle Gear Celad three, Subsistence number two is
Tony Ox pro Skater three, and number one would be Shadow.
Speaker 1: Of the Colossus.
Speaker 2: The kind of part of this list that we didn't
talk about yet is like, Okay, are you okay with
the order of Final Fantasy and Devil May Cry three
and Grand Theft Auto? Uh?
Speaker 3: I mean I would maybe i'd maybe swap double Make
Crist three and Final Fantasy ten.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's that's what I was asking. So all right, yeah,
this does it look good to you? Now?
Speaker 3: I think it looks pretty good. I like it looks
pretty right. I think you're gonna have to put the
Roman numeral for two and unbold the ones that are
bolded for my sanity, But otherwise, yeah, we're looking good.
Speaker 2: Roman number Roman number two for which which one I want?
Speaker 1: Which one do you think? Okay?
Speaker 3: I think it's for Tony Hawk's pro Skater three. Well,
I mean you number.
Speaker 2: Tony Hawk for Skater three, But there's silent L two
and I'm like, that's what I'm looking at the first one,
Like that doesn't seem right?
Speaker 1: All right, there we.
Speaker 3: Go, all right, Uh, yeah, I think it's pretty good.
I like, I know people are gonna have problems with
this list still, but boy, with this list, Steven, this
seems like so safe in a.
Speaker 1: Lot of ways.
Speaker 3: Okay, Mike read the list, the list the best PS
two games of all time, going to read the original
again for funzies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 3: Here's the list that we uh start with here from
the Gamer. Number ten was a Commie number ninth, kill
Zone number eight, sound Hill two seventh, sly Cooper six,
Resident be four five, Shadow of the Classes four, Grandot
was soign Andreas three, Medical Gar Slid three, Snake Eater two,
Half Life one, God of War. Our list that we
after we did it fixed it is. Number ten is
Sywin Hill two, number nine, sly Cooper number eight, that
will make Cry three Special Edition number seven, FOP Fantasy ten,
number six, grandthat so Andreas number five, Katamari Demassi number four,
Kingdom Marts two, number three, MegaR Solid three, Subsistence, Heymgo
Slid three stayed at number three on both.
Speaker 1: That's interesting, there you go.
Speaker 3: Number two is Tostroskater three, number one, Shadow of the Colossus,
and I see right below that is a Downhill Domination
made it on the list somehow. Uh, that's that's very
good to see. How many games stayed from the original list.
I believe Silon Hill two DIDs like Cooper did show
the Clausus did so, and Andreas snake Eater. So five
five games still cast stayed on the list. I think
that is what it was last time you went on
the any one. So even though this one like kind
of seemed a lot more questionable in some ways.
Speaker 2: We kind of got the degrees to which the one
the five were off felt more egregious.
Speaker 3: Well, and like you know, I don't know the person
base list. I bet that there's somebody who, like you know,
they like they had a PS two right, and they didn't.
They weren't doing PC gaming, they didn't have for sure, like.
Speaker 2: That, for sure that list is right for Zachary over there,
and I get it for sure. In fact, let's give
them their credit here when I tweet it. All right,
that list is now fixed. Consider that a fixed list,
Mike Monaty, good work.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm really glad, and I would put it online
so people who have played as third as many PS
two games as I have can yelp me about my opinions.
That's that's the Internet. I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll get that posted up so everyone can
yell at us. We're gonna take one last break. When
we come back, we'll talk about what we've been playing
and wrap up some super chats.
Speaker 1: All right, we're back, Mike.
Speaker 2: We were just talking in the break, we don't I
talked about selling in a bunch of places. I'm still
playing that, still really enjoying it. If you want to
hear my thoughts, definitely go listen to Less than the
Ten Dogs.
Speaker 1: Listen to the BombCast.
Speaker 3: Checking on that on Tuesday when we both play even
more of it.
Speaker 2: Exactly, I'm hoping to like, really make a lot of
progress and be near the end. I'm unlike what feels
like the second half of the game, or at least
the second major act of the game. And that's been
cool to see how things change. They do make some changes.
It'll be worth talking about. We'll do that at that time.
And you were saying the same thing. You don't have
a lot of new stuff to talk about.
Speaker 3: Not really, and you know we're already we're already pretty
long here, So why don't we all jets? Burrito says Mike.
This is for today's Bike Club. Incredible stuff is always
Thank you, Burrito. Yeah, check out the Bike Club. The
now complete play through of Alone the Dark for the Wii,
which was just uh, it was something. It was so
much more than I was expecting, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: And then so much less than a real game in
so many ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just yeah, if you told me, like, what kind
of game is.
Speaker 3: It, it's not survival horror.
Speaker 2: I gotta say the cold shot on this was from
the era when boss fights were out of vogue. The
degree to which it was out of vogue in this
game was astonishing, is like the best example. You're right,
that's a smart thing I said, because yeah, this was
a cold shot, Mikey, it was real good.
Speaker 3: I just I was like, there's absolutely no way there's
a boss fight in this game.
Speaker 1: They would, we would never.
Speaker 3: It's just gonna end nuts, man.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I did find out that a game called Alone in
the Dark, Jack's Like Back Revenge or something like that.
Jack's Ives Revenge came out with the Sega Saturn. That
also looks pretty bad. So I got that one locked
in the chamber for you if you ever really.
Speaker 3: Okay, it looks real bad. So you know, I'll just
say I want I think about that. It's gonna happen
at some point, and maybe it'd be funny for Dan
because it's like a fan to see real good world
radibly generated RPG for the Sega Saturday.
Speaker 2: Oh you talk about virtual high Light because I talk
close to being your game.
Speaker 1: Really, you guys almost gave me Virtual Hide.
Speaker 2: I was like, the entire time I'm playing Taiketana, I'm like,
I gotta give this bitch Virtual Hide a light because
I needed to hurt him in some way. But I'm like,
as I'm like looking at it researching that, I'm like, he's.
Speaker 1: Gonna end up liking it.
Speaker 2: I know he's gonna end up liking it, and it's
gonna try to be crazy.
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe death, but I think it's one.
Speaker 3: I think it is one of the like canonical bad games,
though that still has to get done at some point.
Here is Virtual Highlights.
Speaker 2: It's exactly That's why I'm like, I was considering. I'm like,
I know it's gonna happen eventually, but I think we
wanted to get a little bit more clever.
Speaker 1: We clearly found the right game.
Speaker 3: So that's incredible. So close to Virtual Highlight. So I
tell you what, if you had told me it's a
Saturda game, my first guess would be virtual Highlight, Yes, of.
Speaker 1: Course, yeah, part of it was. I think it was
also like.
Speaker 2: Hard to explain damn what virtual high to light even was,
what he was even looking at. So it's like you
kind of have to get him excited about the game
a little bit.
Speaker 3: Did I notice that, Yeah, because there's a Yeah, there's
sometimes where I've think they will give you a game
because I just can't sell Dan on it.
Speaker 2: You can't think, right Dan, you very much have to
sell him on it. A lone in the dark was
an easy one though, once he saw that.
Speaker 1: But that's why we should just give it for maybe
not a bad idea.
Speaker 3: That one might break it, because again, we can't even
help that much. It's randomly chat.
Speaker 2: I think the people yearn for it. So yeah, I
would like to see that virtual Dan light. Anyways, thank
you so much.
Speaker 3: Burrito Ak says, do we get forts the Horizon six
at twenty twenty five grit Trismo eight? I don't think
we're gonna go do Grand Chrismo for quite a while.
I mean, playgrounds busy with Fable. I know they have
multiple teams, but do you think, yeah, a new Horizon
is gonna happen next year?
Speaker 1: It seems like it's six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they just they take an extra year
this generation and uh yeah that sounds right.
Speaker 3: Do you think there's any way that can like freshen
that up a little bit. I feel like we're starting
to get a little bit of like, you know, another
one of these.
Speaker 1: They're still very good. There's some obvious things.
Speaker 2: It's like, it doesn't have to be the cellishal media party.
Speaker 1: Definitely.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, for sure, I hope we get rid of
the millennial like spring Break party tone. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: I think they need to just like rework that honestly,
make it like a period piece and throw it back
to like the X Games nineteen nineties era. That could
be just do something that different. It doesn't have to be.
Speaker 3: A whole about young people I can relate to. Yes,
that is what I just said. Damn it incredible thing
to say. The actual last forts seems like that. That
seems like it kind of came and went a little
bit to you for some motorsport.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I mean I know, like I think it
did pretty well in Game Pass, but it came and.
Speaker 3: Went Okay, Well that Davis says, can you do more
games where we vote for Mike to lose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll see what I can do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know Chat hates to do that,
but I'll see what I can do.
Speaker 3: Connor Wood says New Zelda is a world field of
goobers and mets.
Speaker 1: It sure is.
Speaker 3: It is a very goober me game.
Speaker 2: Have you seen the new op strat No, it's just
like the hover bike from this is like this is
for combat. You put down a water block, you grab
an enemy, you put them in the water block, and
almost every single one drowns instantly.
Speaker 1: I'm going to use that a lot. That sounds like
fun to me. Yeah. Yeah, you're just building little pools everywhere,
fucking drown them. Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 6: When you give gamers the tools, they always come out
with the most fucked up ship to do in every game.
Speaker 2: It's Echoes of Wisdom is a waterboarding based game.
Speaker 3: Yes, Jesus, Chris, I believe that's it for the super chests.
Thank you so much, everybody, Thank you everybody.
Speaker 1: That's uh.
Speaker 2: I think that's going to do it for us. Then
I'm gonna hit this button because this show takes Hey, look, most.
Speaker 1: People thought that the list was good that we made.
It's a sixty nine percent of people date.
Speaker 4: Nice, there we go.
Speaker 1: Nice, we did it cool. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think PS two is a hard one actually to
satisfy everybody.
Speaker 1: It's a giant library.
Speaker 3: That's why I honestly most people do like Top twenty
five because you do just leave things off and you
kind of feel bad and get yelled at.
Speaker 4: Uh right, you know.
Speaker 2: Top twenty five for all the platforms in that generation,
PS two is the one where you kind of need
the Top twenty five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something.
Speaker 3: That's why I said, because it has so many games yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then that's where you can like represent some
of those third party games and kind of.
Speaker 1: Even with twenty five, I still want to put Resnie
Will four on there. I think I get it in
at twenty five. I think I'll be fine with that.
Speaker 2: Man, where can people find you on the internet?
Speaker 1: What do you got going on? Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they knew nineties Disney about rescuers down under his out.
If you haven't checked that out yet, please do. I
led that episode about one of I think probably the
most underrated of the Disney animated features. So it was
a lot of fun. And yeah, Blake Club did end,
so we did have the finale for a loan the Mitch,
So catch up on that if you haven't. The last
episode was still a good time. The one before that
was absolutely wild. So yeah, yeah, those are good to
watch back to back.
Speaker 1: Watch those two last episodes back to back for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, yeah. But how about you know what's going
on Giant Bomb tomorrow? Yea for a week finale.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be back.
Speaker 2: I'll be back tomorrow with Games Mornings at the very
least U and then we'll have a BCR where we
will be talking about a game that we can finally
talk about at least I'll be asking some of the
guys on staff who have been playing at some questions.
You'll want to tune in for that, especially like spooky games.
And then for UPF we are.
Speaker 1: Sean, what are we doing for you PF tomorrow.
Speaker 5: I'm going to ask you about that after this show.
Speaker 1: All right, I think we're supposed to be Peako Park two.
Speaker 5: We talked about that and I think we might do that,
and so something else.
Speaker 1: Right, there was something else wasn't there.
Speaker 5: It's all professional. We'll figure it out as.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Peak Up Part two is like a game
like up to eight people can play together and you
kind of build the things out of your bodies.
Speaker 1: It'll be a good time.
Speaker 2: Babe, we play Mount your Friends. That's a good game. O,
Mount your Friends. It's a video game. They have big
wiggly penises.
Speaker 1: In Mount your Friends. You haven't seen Mount your Friends.
Speaker 3: I don't think you should do that unless their friends consent.
Speaker 1: You can't you?
Speaker 2: Well, I guess you can do it in the game
without the consincts they freeze.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well listen, have you seen it? You gotta see, Google,
I want to.
Speaker 2: I want your raw reaction to the wiggly penises before
the show's over.
Speaker 1: Quick.
Speaker 3: I almost googled wiggly penises. I forget what it's called.
Mount your Friends.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not googling.
Speaker 3: You can do it? Fine?
Speaker 1: Do you buy Dixie Wreckbody So Long?
Speaker 3: Mount your Friends? Oh god, it's of course. It's one
of these fucking games.
Speaker 1: Wow, not a real game.
Speaker 3: The bullshits wings unless I'm looking at.
Speaker 1: Tits so long?
Speaker 3: Niceck philosopher fred Rick nice Stick.
Speaker 1: Wait what was he trying to say?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 8: They all?
Speaker 3: Right, give you a break, Give you a break that
don't come about you from the jets.
Speaker 1: Right, You're right, you're right. Okay, we're out the break.
Speaker 3: I need an Oreo coke zero be right back.
Speaker 1: Ye's so good?
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I should check out Star Citizen. Yeah, I'm
like again morbidly curious.
Speaker 1: Right, I want to just kind of see.
Speaker 7: Didn't they say something?
Speaker 8: I was like, we know, we how like good seven
day war week?
Speaker 1: Sorry Citizen people, and when wouldn't surprise me? I don't know.
I don't listen when they talk.
Speaker 6: I don't like them since they did like one of
their presentation ones and they made fun of.
Speaker 7: The Sky and I.
Speaker 2: Was like, oh, sure that's what actually should go plays
No Man Sky.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the game that like released and then they fixed
and everything and now it's sucking awesome.
Speaker 1: Game update or something.
Speaker 6: They still give people money.
Speaker 1: Uh oh key, I think we are good to get
back into it.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm ready super.
Speaker 2: Chats and then I'll just get a set up for
all this stuff and we'll just do all.
Speaker 1: That in one segment. Yeah, okay, all right, sounds good?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: Break? Yeah, yeah, I break Jesus Christ, it's.
Speaker 5: A bad podcast.
Speaker 1: We did it. Everybody?
Speaker 5: What a right?
Speaker 1: Everybody? You get this? What the fuck are we doing?
All right?
Speaker 7: We're fixing the list.
Speaker 1: The open credit. Let's do the open critic first. Then well, yeah,
all right, there are you? There you are?
Speaker 6: OK, we can we can make another break after the
open critic.
Speaker 3: Probably everybody loves that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh shooting, I'm gonna have to fix that.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 6: I watched the first season of True Blood when it
was first coming out, and then I stop, and then
I now, I don't remember anything of the first season
of True Blood.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it seemed kind of like, I'll talk
to you about you by the way, saying stuff up.
Speaker 2: It seems like it seems like a pretty midge all
things considered, But who knows. Maybe it's kind of campy
these days.
Speaker 3: Talk to me instead about why don't you like? Do
you not like the metaphor demo?
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I really checked it out.
Speaker 6: And it ends when you get your third person, your
third real person, on the on the on the party.
Speaker 3: So yes, that's where my demo ended. Yeah, yes, yeah,
that's why I didn't go there. I like I like
I like her by the way. I think she's a Seriously,
she's a really cool character. So far, I think all
the characters have been very good, very good. Voice acting too, Like,
I know, you know dub or sub or whatever, but
I think the dub is very good to go.
Speaker 5: Oh, so can you say get to you?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But by the way, big fan that it's not a
sign protagonist. I know it doesn't talk a lot, but
just so happy. Yeah there's God, Thank God, Like look,
look look at me. There's nothing you can do to
make me think that I am the seventeen year old boy,
Like just no, what if.
Speaker 6: The next time they do this they get rid of
like naming your character, like just.
Speaker 3: Give fine, don't care, Like I'm not gonna name this
yeh again, I'm not going to name the sixteen year
old Japanese student Mike MINAUGHTI anymore. I'm tired of it.
Speaker 1: I just don't believe me. I don't believe.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I have to see this for like the next
one hundred hours of playing this game, Like no.
Speaker 5: So I can't believe this is the one game where
you canomically play as an adult and they don't watch
you fuck like really.
Speaker 1: Them on anymore? All about the presidency, you guys talk
about dubs. I was like, what the was true true
true blood dubbed? I was like very confused, I mean
I did this a long time ago and said this. Man,
I was ready, and you guys just kept talking.
Speaker 5: Sorry, yeah, yeah, on the frame. So I assumed you're
still saying things.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, the frame is not gonna move. All right,
I will, I will do that. I thought it was
going to be like a power point president.
Speaker 5: I'm I'm just gonna scroll.
Speaker 8: You did that wrong. God damnit, it was close, you guys, incredible.
Speaker 1: All right, there we go. I'm gonna bring it back.
All right, all right, this is a on that one.
I'll talk, no problem, all right, Yeah, I sent that
over here. I can find that there.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna kill this right away, so not to worry
about that.
Speaker 7: Streame. Oh ah wait, what are we doing now? I
think we have.
Speaker 5: Too much looks a list? Fix?
Speaker 7: Oh, we need to fix the list.
Speaker 5: Fix the list.
Speaker 7: I always forget that. We also picked the next one
the next quarter.
Speaker 1: O cares, no, where's the list? Where's the list? Where's
the list? Okay, I found it.
Speaker 5: That's I would like to point out that Walls responses
basically I have to out about it. Was not really
a reason, but.
Speaker 1: Oh fantastic, wonderful, think about it more.
Speaker 7: All right, everybody watching anything the spooky.
Speaker 1: I am going to watch The Shining. I've still never
seen it.
Speaker 4: So you've never seen the Shining.
Speaker 2: Yes, I decided I should fix that immediately. That's the
next one.
Speaker 5: Oh nice. I'm not big into actual horror by like
campy spooky stuff.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I watched like stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I like watch anything from like the Peanuts Special
to like Nightmare before Christmas, like Beatle Juice.
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, I haven't watched anything horror related yet.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 6: Oh, I watch Down the Dam, which is kind of
horror adjacent, spooky kind of he has aliens and and
ghosts and the kind of stuff. So why, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: That's not right? Well.
Speaker 5: No, if there's one thing that I have, one precedent
I've said for people who make games around here, is
that we don't give into the whiners. Mike Wind's every
Jeopardy game. I won't give into him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the country I had to like make them whine
even more.
Speaker 2: I want to make it clear I truly believe that
this is okay. It's whining, Like I'll be I'm whining.
But also I I think I only whine when I
truly believe I'm what I'm saying, will make things better
like I would, I.
Speaker 1: Could be whining so much more. You guys, you have
no idea. I want to whine all the time. Uh
but I think this would actually make the make it
more dramatic. I do think.
Speaker 5: No, I to be clear, I think you're right. I
just find a funny that this came up because you're salty.
Speaker 1: Oh No, without a doubt.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, I almost have respect for you. That's almost.
Speaker 1: Listen, that's the best I can hope for.
Speaker 5: Maybe try that for next year or something.
Speaker 3: Wasn't there a year where I was losing by a
lot and like would have done better if it was
an aggregate score, and I complained about it and was
shut down.
Speaker 1: No one can remember who could say it happened. If
it happens.
Speaker 2: I meantime, the reality is, Mike, when that was happening,
you want to know what I was really thinking.
Speaker 1: It would make it a lot more sense if we
did it that way. But I just won. So I'm
gonna be quiet. But I think at the time I
thought the same thing.
Speaker 5: I would have to remember the history on this one.
I think it's because we didn't know if it would
stick around. And it was just a quarterly thing, and
that became a yearly thing.
Speaker 1: Right, that's how these things work together, and.
Speaker 5: We grew into it being a yearly competition.
Speaker 3: Well, for one, we could also just consider it a
yearly competition. Guess it could just be a quarter worry
about it quarter by quarter?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, which.
Speaker 1: Is I'm probably like what you end up doing.
Speaker 2: And then at the end of the year you can
add up everything together and be like, well and here's
what happened for the whole year.
Speaker 1: But whatever, it's most game, we'll play it.
Speaker 3: Whatever Terry Francona comes out of retirement to man is
the red Terry is awesome.
Speaker 1: God, that's what I wish.
Speaker 3: I wish we won with him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, I mean I wish we won with
Jim Leland.
Speaker 1: God, and that was Lewis.
Speaker 3: Okay, tide recorders, I see Wolf, I see. So we
use the aggregate. Last time was we tied recorders. That's right, right,
that's what that's why I Angreget came into play.
Speaker 1: And you won last year? Right, you won? Okay, Okay,
all right, I am manufactured some beef.
Speaker 5: Okay, let's see manufactured, Jess.
Speaker 6: Yet, what if we made a podcast where we were
quiet all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a podcast like that weird sleep out
that Jeffrey Bridges did.
Speaker 7: We could call it that. Quite it to.
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 5: There? Didn't someone do that podcast where they just uploaded
blank m P three's and it just did really well
because people probably, yeah, there's want something to play while
he's in their like that.
Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy. Okay, yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 6: That egg post on Instagram, they got all the likes.
We are good, okay, all right, excited, bring it back
break you want to post that.
Speaker 1: M hm. I am going to be good to go
here in a second.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going long. I don't necessarily have anything I
need to talk about what I've been playing wise that
I haven't talked about on something else.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the same super chests here. Okay, sounds good.
I'll probably just like mentioned you're still playing some of them.
Speaker 3: Okay, we finally get my spot here, okay, yeah right
the GTA six one's last one, sirs three got.
Speaker 2: It all right, I will get us. I can actually
letta fix the camera quick, there's that. I just gotta
make you tall, I mean, capture your tallness.
Speaker 7: Yeah, please don't. Yes, you have to.
Speaker 6: Right and against is short energy.
Speaker 7: He's not.
Speaker 1: No, that's right. It's just the energy. Okay. I am
ready to bring us back in