Speaker 1: What's going on Clipper Nation? Welcome to episode thirteen twelve
of season two. We're doing a mine in nikang a
Visa Zoobots. The big news today signed contract extension with
the Los Angeles Clippers. It's a steal. We're going to
talk about it. Adam's here. I'm Chuck Mocker. I don't
know if I mentioned that up top, but this is
a great day for Clipper Nation. Three years, fifty eight
million dollar extension for eats a zoobots. It's incredibly cheap,
I think, Adam, how are you doing? How are you
feeling about this? I mean, longest tenured clipper gets locked.
Speaker 2: Up and he's still only twenty seven. You know, it's weird.
I was not at a shitty day, and somehow Zoo
getting sixty million made me feel better too.
Speaker 1: Oh no, why are you all right?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: Pivot from the zoobos news.
Speaker 2: No, no, I just want to show how much this means.
I think the Clipper dation. This is a great day.
It's not unexpected. We knew. We assumed it was coming
at some point here. Yeah, we're assuming Terrence Man is
going to get his extension at some point here too.
It's just great news. For a guy who has done
everything for this team, who has continued to improve, who
has been a defensive stalwart, who's one of the best
defensive big men in the game. I just put this
tweet out here. I forget who had it. Originally it
was from somebody from a couple of months ago. But
you look at Defanne the pick and roll, he was
second there this season. According to the advanced stats, you
look at Defanne the rim, he was number one. The
field goal percentage given up was fifty one point nine percent.
That was better than Chet Christas, Porzingis, Brook Lopez, Victor Wemba, Yama,
Lee Hartenstein, Rudy Gobert, Jaren Jackson, Junior Walker Kessler was
up there. Big Zoom is already an elite rim protector
and has been four years. That's nothing new in that area.
He's been like this for over five years now. So
we're hoping the offensive opportunity is coming. And you matched
that up with the level of defense he's been playing.
Oh my goodness, Hey, congratulations Big Zoo, who no longer
has to make Marvin Bagley money. Yeah, position, he finally
he's finally out.
Speaker 1: He'll finally out earn Marvin Bagley. That's it. That's I
think such a funny point to think about it. How
valuable Zoo has been for this Clippers team. We've talked
about the durability. He's literally the most durable Clipper, maybe
other than Terrence Man, which is also kind of nice.
He's gotten better every single year. Remember the first year
against the Worriors in the playoffs, you got played off
the floor. It was bad. And then every year since
then he's gotten better. We've saw Tylu close games with
him recently. You're not finding a starting center who's closing
games for a team playing really good basketball. When the
Clippers were doing their thing last season, things were going well,
especially for that cheat, and this gives you a chance
to get another big contract. It's a wonderful deal all
the way around. I see, there's I don't know, it's
a The only downside is that it might just cost
the Clippers more money down the road. But that's fine.
Who cares because they're gonna have I if the Clippers
are going to be this, you know, if Will who
will be on soon says if this is our year?
You know people some are saying is our year? If
this is the Clippers if the Clippers are going to
outperform expectations, you know, and all this stuff, Zoo's gonna
have to be a top ten center. So this gives
you a chance to earn another big contract while the
Clippers are also succeeding. I don't know, I love it.
I can't get enough of this deal.
Speaker 2: I think he is a top ten center now.
Speaker 1: Honestly, yeah, he's closer to ten obviously, but that's still yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. There are only a handful of guys who are
elite centers that are featured offensively, who are putting up
big points on that end. Typically in today's league, you're
looking for a rim runner and a rim protector. That's it.
There are some exceptions. Joe l Embiid can do it all.
Nikola Jokicic can do it all. Sometimes Yiannis plays center
next to Brook Lopez, though he's the power forward. Like
there are just a few guys in today's league. Back
to the basket. Basketball isn't always the most efficient. People think, oh,
that's easy work, that's light work for these guys. But
with zones today, teams load up on them so quickly
it turns into a tougher shot than you would imagine.
But we saw Big Zoo in one on one defense
against the Dallas Mavericks, putting in that work game one.
He did it. He was the best player for them
in game one of that series that they wanted a
couple of years, the second best player overall in that
series again Dallas. Yeah, the Big Zoo is. I thought
he disappointed in the series against the Phoenix Suns, didn't
play up the expectations last season. He definitely did the
twenty twenty three Phoenix Suns series. And he's only, as
you mentioned, getting more and more longer of a leash
from the coaching staff and coach Lou and understanding that
this is somebody that has to be closing games now.
And I fully trust he will.
Speaker 1: Be not only closing games on defense, which is great.
He needs more field goal at TEPS. He needs to
break he hasn't broken seven point six. Uh. This is
not it's not because of Black, It's not because he's
timid or anything. But he needs to be at twelve
or something or something like that, or like at least ten,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like when my parody rap track comes out for forgot
about Zoo and somebody about Drebod They need it nowadays.
Everybody want to talk, but.
Speaker 1: Help kill this idea right now.
Speaker 3: It's true.
Speaker 2: They forget about it. Beats the Zoo bots all the time.
They'll say, one game, are you're gonna get him more
touches and a quarter in? It's already forgotten, even though
Zoo has probably a ten and five already. It's unbelievable.
But without Paul George, somebody else really has to step up.
I fully believe he's the third most important player on
this team coming into the season. It's not a question
mark and it's and that's a positive too. Here we go, big.
Speaker 1: Will, Big Will in the house. We were just lambasting
this Zoo deal. We just hate it. No, why do
you love the Zoo deal so much? We'll start with that.
Also welcome.
Speaker 3: I mean, I just don't know where you're getting another
starting caliber center whose biggest contract it might end up
being four for seventy, Like, I just I don't know.
And it's not just the money thing, although that is
a huge part. I mean, it retains a bunch of flexibility.
They can stay true and they're looking ahead to free agency,
not making moves right now, and just the production. I
mean Zoo. I know, people get really frustrated sometimes with
him in that sometimes the progress is incremental in a
way that maybe feels like he's due for a bigger jump.
I think where we're at right now, the only thing
holding Zoo back from a bigger jump is whatever this
offense decides to do and however they end up using him.
I mean, I think he's been able to rise to
the challenge when they've needed more from him. Clearly, we've
seen them be able to lean on him more offensively,
which was always sort of the biggest thing. I mean,
started his tenure here with two broken fingers, had his
own sort of blockhanded moment at times, you know, without
the broken fingers. But overall, I mean from what we've seen,
you know, like his own limit is touches. Like what
like what else is holding Zoo back from being like
a double double guy, like other than touches, I don't,
I don't see anything.
Speaker 1: I just said, twelve field goal with types next year.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: It'd be a lot more than he I mean, like
six seven and a half seven half.
Speaker 2: It's not yeah, it's not Zoo, it's you. It's not
giving him the opportunities. That's been the only issue for him,
not you, I'm saying overall he gets lost in the offense.
It's the players out there. It is not it's not
even just Tyleru. I don't know what it is. But
he's always gotten like almost a rookie like treatment, like
oh yeah, we also have a beat to Zoo Boss
instead of featuring him, instead of looking for him. It's
just been this way for a long time, and there's
it has to be out of necessity now there's no
option to not give a beat to Zoo Boss the
ball more. This is it. They have the right point
guard in James Harden, who, right before that cap jury
Zoo was averaging I think thirteen and eleven for about
a month and a half, was playing the best basketball
of his career.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to thrive this season. I truly believe
this is it. I thought so before the contract. He's
the third most important guy. You either get him involved
or you're not winning much because there's always been an
easier path to win in my opinion, and it's playing
through a beats the Zoobos more. It's getting easier buckets
that way, and without Paul George without Russell Westbrook, two
high usage players. I just think the ball's gonna find
him a lot more now.
Speaker 1: And ass to yeah, you gotta distribute those touches.
Speaker 3: I mean, what's one of the most frustrating things we've
watched through this, like through the now defunct two to
three era, is like, while this team could be remarkable
in half court sets, one of the most efficient half
court offenses a couple of years ago, due was like
an outright refusal at times to get an easy bucket.
Like it's it's great that you can you know that
you can really tear apart a defense in that way,
but sometimes you just got to get some easy buckets.
And I think as you look at the age of
Harden and Kawhi, and you know the question marks about
the injury and the amount of games they'll play for
both of them, like when they are available to get
easy buckets when they're out give other guys bigger roles,
like it just you know, it checks for me all
the boxes of you know, what we all know is
the end, which is this is our year.
Speaker 1: I brought that up earlier. I was gonna say, if
this is gonna be our year, Zoo. Duce Times is
in the comments saying All Star season might have Zoo
will have to maybe be in the All Star conversation
not gonna happen conversation, but you know what I mean,
like not like Lego, maybe Zoo like that level of conversation.
Speaker 3: Just look at the centers ahead of them is just
The's kind of an unfortunate thing.
Speaker 1: But that's what I mean. He'd be a fringe All
Star conversation guy. That's what the Clippers need if they're
going to be a top Some people have some expectations
for the scene that we're gonna talk about as the
closer get to the season.
Speaker 3: But it's not Seating doesn't matter all right.
Speaker 1: Okay, seating does matter.
Speaker 3: But the Clippers, when it's your year, baby, when it's your.
Speaker 2: Year, you don't even have to make the playoffs, like
it's just your year anyways, Like you could be the
eleventh spot and that's still their year. I do what
to say to that point about the All Star how
about the conversation starts moving to this. Zoo is as
important defensively for them as somebody like Rudy Gobert is
for the Minnesota Timberwolves. People start realizing just how good
and what an anchor eats.
Speaker 3: Zoo Bots is more of an offensive bag too.
Speaker 1: With more offense, Yeah, can make free throws, can like
actually make you think about what's happening.
Speaker 3: I mean that's what like, that's what I'm saying, like
I I'm you know, there are some better offensive centers,
of course, but like the biggest emiting factor right now
is just touches. I feel like for Zoo in that regard.
Speaker 2: Always, like I I think it's been one of the
failures of the two and three era, not getting to
beat to zoobots involvedmore.
Speaker 3: He should wear all orange shot sleeves on arms and legs,
so he's like a big cone out there.
Speaker 2: Canvas cone on defense. He can move a little bit defend.
Speaker 1: So we did get a question this morning in regards
to Zoo from Daniel Am which I think was, first
of all, what did he.
Speaker 2: Know, Daniel Mind, I've met I think.
Speaker 1: Will and I you and I have met this guy before,
I think in Echo Park. Hell yeah, he said, you
guys talk a lot of Zoo growing out his hair.
What type of haircut would you guys prefer to give him?
A mullet of bowl cut? Long braided hair or rat tail.
Both would be absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 3: I do like that idea lasts, but in my mind
it's kind of like Bjorn Borg. It's like just it's
just this long hair hair. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, he's
got to have a headband. You gotta keep that out
of his eyes.
Speaker 1: Sure, out of what we're.
Speaker 2: Your headband crown. I mean, put the crowd on the
NBA crowds. Uh yeah, I'm fine with some kingly long
hair on the Beats boss.
Speaker 1: So we've gotten a couple questions too, and a couple
of things shown. I feel like Terrence Man or Powell
deal incoming. I don't know if anyone's getting traded. I
don't think Terrence Fan and Norm Poweller getting traded.
Speaker 2: I definitely don't think Terrence Man is. At this point, Guys,
what what are you getting that's better than the ten
million he's getting paid for that level of production? Who
is doing extension? Yes, but that's one of those guys
you've invested so much, Just like a Beata Zubats, I
don't think he's going anywhere.
Speaker 3: I would be very surprised if we see him move
prior to the season.
Speaker 1: I just it's gonna be a deadline thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think if anything, it's a deadline thing. You know,
maybe if contract negotiation talks aren't going well with Terrence,
like maybe.
Speaker 1: It has been cag maybe it's been a little not
I shouldn't say cage brought up. It's just like, yeah,
we're working on it, and you're like, I gotta.
Speaker 3: Be honest, if I was in his position, even if
I felt pretty strongly I was gonna come back to
the Clippers, wouldn't you at least want to test the waters,
like you you know, you've never even tested the water
to cre agency, so you know, I could kind of
see that. But Powell, I don't know, we have to
see how the team looks. Powell is just not expendable
in the way people once thought that he was. And
I don't really know, he's like such a specific piece.
Well and he's just such a specific piece, Like what
are you really getting that's a step up for the Clippers.
I'm having trouble seen anything other than maybe like a
lateral move. And if it's Terrence and Norm, sure still not.
I mean, that's a decent amount of money to work with.
You know that that's possible. I don't see it. There's
no way it happens before the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got an Adam apology in the chat from
JM one three two four Zoo which is short for
Zubach chat. We're just using slang. Zoo short for zubat Uh.
He's banking all defense this year and to Adam they apologize.
I thought Zoo wanted more money, but I respect his
contract decision. This sets him up for a big ass
contract after this contract because he will be thirty. He
has another big contract coming.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: If he's a top ten center for three years while
the Clippers are in this period, maybe he gets four
with the raised cap.
Speaker 2: It's an extension, so that's.
Speaker 3: The new four for seventy.
Speaker 2: They have him locked up for four years now because
it's an extension on top of the one year deal.
So it's four years.
Speaker 1: So he'll be thirty one, which is I mean?
Speaker 2: And if I was gonna buy any jersey, it'd probably
be big Zoo.
Speaker 1: Would it be a Red one? Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Will wait patiently for the Red Ones to show up
at the Flagship store and I will be there.
Speaker 1: You'll wait at the Flagship store.
Speaker 2: I'll open end.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but yeah, I mean thirty one if he
keeps improving. Yeah, I think four for one hundred is
what he gets when he's thirty one, maybe more.
Speaker 3: At the end, he'll have it. Look at he'll have
a decade of Clipper service, right am? I counting that correctly?
Speaker 1: Of league service, I think not of clipper service, because
he had two seasons with the Lakers. He was drafted
when he was like nineteen. Yeah, his first season with
the Lakers was twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: Who's who's worried about the next contract? You just got
the extension on this one. You know.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for the next contract if he gets If
he gets a big contract next, it's gonna be looking
at max money. Yeah, and it's gonna be because he
played so well. This is fantastic. I'm excited. Extra Ernie
is saying Zoo's gonna be an All Star. We don't
know about that. I was just laughed at by my
co host was saying he would be in the conversation.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: I love the enthusias, but I agree love your head's.
Speaker 1: Honestly all Stars.
Speaker 3: I didn't love if they if they let a few
of you on if they let a few of you
on the voting board, common sense in there, maybe.
Speaker 2: Something we almost had a conniption about, you go tea
party on the All Star voters. Just something we found
alarming After the season ended. I think this was in
the first month of the off season, we were like,
how many minutes of beata Zoobs ended up playing last year?
And it was revealed that he ended up playing two
less minutes per game than the year before. Yeah, and
that I think you.
Speaker 3: Do have to bear in mind the cap injury.
Speaker 2: Though, I mean it's minutes per game.
Speaker 1: It crazy.
Speaker 2: Did he slowly back in to ramp up minutes that
after he.
Speaker 3: Came playfull he didn't play full minutes? I don't think
when he first started. I think, like a couple of teeners,
a couple of eighteeners.
Speaker 1: Let me do one of my favorite things in the
world and pull up the game logs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, was he was he had thirty five
before that or something? I missed it.
Speaker 1: When he came back, he went, mmm, he went eighteen
missed the game? Teeners missed the game twenty one, nineteen,
twenty two, twenty seven, twenty nine, twenty six, thirty three,
he was kind of back and forth.
Speaker 3: A couple of teeners in there.
Speaker 1: He played some four he played a fourteen he played.
Speaker 2: Let's put it this way, the most average in a
month was twenty eight point one. That should be the
fewest amount this next season. Right, he should be above
thirty because often politics can be involved money play. This
is a good thing for emboldening the coaching staff to
play him more. He's one of your higher paid players.
Now he's got to be out there. I just I
can't have a Vista Zubos playing under thirty minutes per
game anymore. If he is, it's because he's in foul trouble.
That's the only way it should happen. Because we talk
about the backup center position and how that's going to
be interesting to watch.
Speaker 1: Oh, we have there was a little bit of news
about that regarding that.
Speaker 2: Sorry, go ahead, I got nothing from Mark Stein. He
has been wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong when it comes
to the Clippers. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I mean, I I think I think they're absolutely looking
to upgrade. But we we sort of know that they're
eyeing a little bit further. We just sort of know
that they're eyeing a little bit further down the path.
So you know, like I think, yes, they're looking to upgrade.
I just don't know if that means it's not a
big swear it's not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I want to touch on the backup center
thing real quick. We are going to take a quick
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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, welcome back in clips and did it's a
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That's over at YouTube dot com slash at Clippers podcast.
You know, we talked about the zoo extension. I didn't
open the rundown yet. What what are we talking about next?
Speaker 1: So this is actually kind of an audible, but law
Murray was kind of tweeting about Ki Jones because're talking
about how great the starting center situation is. We know
the backup situation is some would say terrifying.
Speaker 2: I still think it's better than last season, honestly.
Speaker 3: Fair Well, I forgot, where did you guys land at
Sorry to side tul this for a second, but where
did you guys Landa at scarier position? Backup center like
power forward dead. I still think it's backup center for me, but.
Speaker 1: Is better than either Kai Jones or So. It's like, okay,
so Nicks.
Speaker 3: The backup.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would like to know when we talk
about how scary the backup center position is, tell me
all the teams who have great backup centers.
Speaker 1: That's fair.
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty.
Speaker 1: It's just thin margins, I guess would be mine, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like last year was bad, We're getting a lot of
Kai Jones love, Charles, Let's.
Speaker 1: Get into it.
Speaker 3: There was so rudely interrupted this.
Speaker 1: There was this part. One of this podcast favorite things
is the Rico Heins runs. We love them. Jordan is
in the chat saying, you don't know how good Kai
Jones was. He's still alive. We hope he's good for
the Clippers next season. He was at a Rico Hines
runs recently yesterday, I believe La Murray was there reporting.
He said Kai Jones is finally healthy and he understands
he needs to be loud defensively as a center, and
then he's looking forward to October. Someone said, no chance
to try and play him as a four. Law said,
got to build a foundation. The focus is on him
being a five until further notice, which makes total sense.
There's always a chance for positional expansion, but that's not
my expectation for now. Kai still has to make the team.
Positive things to hear for people who were Kai Jones
fans or maybe worried about backup five is that he
understands he has to be good defensively. That is I
hope it's true, because that is how you get minutes
on this team.
Speaker 2: The code has been cracked.
Speaker 1: The code's been cracked. Be good at defense, and he's healthy.
These are pros.
Speaker 2: I'm a fan. I'm rooting for the guy, and I'm
rooting from Obama, who I do think has more upside
still and his buddies with Kawai. That was to hear
from Kelly Johnston.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's played more real NBA minutes than Kai Jones
by quite a bit.
Speaker 2: I had not heard this till I talk with Joseph.
Tell me if this was news to you, guys, I
had no idea about this. Joseph said they had been
targeting Mobamba for years, and I'd never heard of that before.
Speaker 3: I've heard some rumblings about about a possible bomba.
Speaker 2: Look, well, I believe it now because the reason would
be Kawhi Leonard liked him and they've been talking for
a while, so it makes sense. Yeah, and I wouldn't
always believe Joseph, but in this case it lines up well.
Speaker 3: I heard, but I wasn't sure if that was just
a fan thing. Yeah, I certainly didn't hear anything.
Speaker 1: Confirmed, but yeah, good to hear that. I like seeing
that Kai is healthy and at high level offseason basketball
competitions because there's pro ams, which if you've been to
a pro am, that level of competition can range from
pretty good to a contest. But the Rico Heines level
of it's not you're not fucking around at the Rico
Heines runs. It's full of NBA guy like and Rico
is there.
Speaker 2: Like James Harden has been a staple there forever.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, big time guys put in big time work.
Speaker 1: Do you think Obama could be a star in his
role limited minutes. So if Zoo's getting thirty minutes and
we do see some small ball, thirty three, okay, Zoo
thirty six? All right? Coach Adam is saying, Zoo. If
Zoo's getting thirty three, sixty three and wow, man, long
season for the Clippers. If he's outaging sixty three minutes
a game, Wow, tired legs at the end of that.
Will those seventeen games in March again, Uh, Zoo's playing
thirty We get a little bit of small ball five.
How many minutes is the backup center playing? You know
what I mean?
Speaker 2: Is it thirteen to fifteen?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So Mobile been thirteen to fifteen minutes. What is
one of the things that looks like for that really
good defense and eight points and four rebounds.
Speaker 2: Every team's fan base seems to say about Mobama that,
you know, he's one of those guys that'll have a
really good game, you'll up your expectations for him, and
then he'll disappoint. He'll show you what he could be,
but then he'll disappoint. He's still young enough where he
can put it together. He's just turning twenty six, I think.
Speaker 3: But that's the thing, right, Like that's part of the
reason why he's at the level that he's at is like,
consistency is such a difficult thing to do in this league,
night in and night out. And granted it's been even
more difficult for him because he's been on different teams.
You know, he's been moved around, his role has been changed.
But yeah, that's either something that you can kind of
adapt with or you cannot. So Starr in his role,
I think it just really depends on what that role is.
Speaker 1: Eight and four with good defense, and he's a star
in the.
Speaker 3: Role eight and four would eight and four would.
Speaker 1: Be sorry, that's crazy, let's call it. Let's call it
four and four and good defense. Okay, we have to
address this question from Jordan, who we don't know, but
they're just playing names. Jordan, Elicans needed a center. What
would you guys think of patching Zubats Norm and Bones
for Ingro. Well, then our starting center is Mobaba and
we just signed Zubos to an extension.
Speaker 2: Glad we made all those points of how important to
just to trade him.
Speaker 3: I like a lot, I would like I would love
I would love to be watching him on this team.
We just we we don't have the depth to make
a big swing like that right now.
Speaker 2: No Villans wouldn't even do that. They want a center
that has ranged to pair next to Zion.
Speaker 1: Well, they haven't led Zoos shoot. What if Zu shoots
for three this year six attempts a game.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be shocked.
Speaker 1: Tyler Van Gundy's just made Tyler lose his mind to
the point that he's like the threes.
Speaker 2: Hey, for all we've said about Mobama and how he's disappointed,
there is a real skill set there with being able
to shoot from three. He's taken over seven hundred threes
in his career at above a thirty six percent clip.
That's real.
Speaker 1: Nothing. What is your they'll do this?
Speaker 2: What theod Wall like prediction for.
Speaker 1: What is what is your diet? John Wall prediction for
those wait for? First of all, I think before we
started doing Lives on YouTube, we did the pod and
Adam proclaimed that he thought, I want to get this right,
that John Wall would shoot on corner threes.
Speaker 2: I have to take exactly it's it's it was something
like that. It wasn't even corner threes. I said, like
above thirty percent on the.
Speaker 1: Season, Yeah, on three, So that is we reference that
a lot because John Wall did not.
Speaker 2: Do that and something some referencing that, and he's.
Speaker 3: No longer sas the king of receipts. Don't pull my receipts, please.
Speaker 2: Yes, that has not pulled many are you guys, But
I have no receipts.
Speaker 1: No receipts. When you pay cash, you feel me? Uh
what uh? What is your diet? John Wall prediction for
Mobombas shooting.
Speaker 2: Give me thirty six and a half percent? Above that
six and a half, I mean above that.
Speaker 1: That's that doesn't seem crazy.
Speaker 2: No, he has shot thirty almost forty though twelve on
the season this year.
Speaker 1: Let's call it per game, per game. Yeah, it's probably
like two two. Yeah, he averaged the one year he
averaged four.
Speaker 3: That's another game.
Speaker 1: The one year he averaged four to three point attention
for game he shot thirty eight percent.
Speaker 3: That is John will take.
Speaker 1: I respect that. I respect that take.
Speaker 3: But that's just not really what we're looking for at
a backup center for this team.
Speaker 1: Right, So that's kind of the issue too, Right. That
was the issue with Tys is that Tyson was like,
you can stretch the floor, this is cool, but you're
also like, at least Bamba has size.
Speaker 2: Bomba went Tys really couldn't stretch the floor.
Speaker 1: Right, it was fake.
Speaker 3: If Tyson was four inches taller, though, like his defensive
effort was a lot better than Mason plumbles, then it
would have been less of an issue.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Someone in the chat said, yeah, JJ, the boy said,
all backup has to do is legit play better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you nailed it, J.
Speaker 2: You're a better situation they are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and do we think so now that we're kind
of kicking this idea around? I got I had. I
woke up in a cold sweat the other day because
I thought maybe PJ. Tucker is still on the team,
because Tyler is going to try and use him in
small ball five situations.
Speaker 3: No, nobody wants it.
Speaker 1: That's why I woke up in the cold.
Speaker 3: It's a tactical decision.
Speaker 2: It's so terrified, dream, nightmare or premonition.
Speaker 1: Uh, that's see, that's why I went I did that
wake up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're trying to sound with lots of dog ship
under the bridge and no one buys it. It's not
because you're saving it for later, it's because nobody wants it.
Speaker 2: That's maybe the greatest analogy of all time.
Speaker 1: That's fair. Okay, So what so the small ball five
is still going to be at the five.
Speaker 3: Basically starting line up Nico at the five. I think
we're moving away from that as just a.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of wear and tearing an older player
to make him play the five that much.
Speaker 1: Yea fair. So then we're gonna see more of the
backup center track Kobe.
Speaker 3: Brown of the backup five just zoo opening closing.
Speaker 2: That maybe it's kai Jones as the backup backup five Jones?
Speaker 1: What about kai Jones?
Speaker 2: What is he listed as six ' ten?
Speaker 1: Let me look it up.
Speaker 2: I mean, is that.
Speaker 1: He's six eleven? I would say he's talking six ten?
Speaker 2: Yeah he I don't want to say projects, but he
has shown in very very small spurts of ability to
move his feet on the perimeter. And if you're going
for a smaller ball, more maneuverable five, maybe kai Jones
ends up being it.
Speaker 1: You kind of got to pass out of the five
spot there, right, And I don't know if Kaiju Zones
can move the ball the way that it needs.
Speaker 2: To be moved, not like PJ.
Speaker 1: Not look not like PJ. That what was a deft
touch of a veteran.
Speaker 2: No small ball. How about that? What if there is
just no small ball, so that.
Speaker 1: Would be fine, But I don't think that's on the table.
But that's just a lot of the backup. So we
really oregon Zoo's getting thirty five. If there's no small ball,
Zoo's getting thirty five or might have.
Speaker 2: To what if it's you know what it is, it's
likely Kawhi playing the five if they're playing small ball, Yeah,
that's what it is. He did some of it last year.
Ir his his rent protection and last line of defense.
Defense is really damn good. Like he's he's pretty amazing
at playing some of that free safety. I don't love
the idea of him having to do it, but I
think it will happened here and there.
Speaker 1: Well that's the funny thing too. That makes me think
about Zoo and the bench right, Like, is Zoo's gonna
have to probably bridge some minutes with the bench unit,
you know what I mean? Because if Kawhi is playing
small ball five, he's not gonna be out there when
Zo's out there and stuff like that. So I wonder
that's gonna call on norm maybe of trying to show
or like we hope the chemistry with Chris Dunn is
good with Zoo and they build that up in training camp,
right like, because he's gonna have to play with the
second with the backups.
Speaker 2: I I think he and Harden are gonna have to
play with the backups a lot. I think Harden might
come out earlier in the first quarter as he did
last season, to then start second quarters and to run
the second unit a lot. Because I think the big
question here to me is is Kevin Porter Junior gonna
be available? That's how I think normOn how could end
up being traded if they see that Kevin Porter Junior
can fill in some of the six man stuff. Because
there's a real concern.
Speaker 1: There's also another there might be another thing, right, isn't
there going to be another investigation or something happening with
Kevin Porter.
Speaker 2: That No, Yeah, the NBA is investigating it, right, Okay?
Is he going to be available? So because Norm, Kevin
Porter Junior, and Chris Dunn, if they're all three coming
on the off the bench, let's say they're all available,
that's problematic. Playing Norman KPJ isn't great. And that's the
one area I would give into somebody making the argument
that Okay, Norm should be starting, because you don't want
him coming off the bench with another guy that doesn't
play great defense either. How do you make that work?
I still want Terrence Man starting, don't get me wrong,
but I think that is the point you would make.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you don't think Chris down can make up.
Speaker 2: Enough, not for three guards.
Speaker 3: I don't want to take Terrence's starting spot.
Speaker 2: Not what I'm saying at all.
Speaker 1: People are saying KPJ is the biggest X factor. I
don't that's I don't think that's true at all. I
don't think you give the biggest X factor on the
team as small of a contract as they gave him.
And I just think that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Um, I mean it is a big you know, it's
a big proved deal. I can I can see sure,
I can see the reasoning behind that. I just I
guess I still have questions as to what his role
is going to be like. As Adam said, I mean
that that is the one scenario where Norm does become expendable.
I just I would have to see it on the
court before I'm even close to thinking about that conversation.
Speaker 1: We can't be like, oh, he's he's going to be
a pivotal player we have. No, he hasn't been in
the league.
Speaker 2: I think the move that everybody's talking about could be
hinging on the fact of whether or not he's even
going to be available.
Speaker 1: Collins one the people keep spamming in the chat and
for the last five years of my life covering the Cliff,
every year they're gonna trade for John Collins.
Speaker 2: He is not good?
Speaker 1: Have we considered that that he's not as good as
we want.
Speaker 2: Him to be? So is that who Mark Stein is
saying they're gonna get?
Speaker 1: But we've this question has been and sorry, John John Origuez,
this is this is not aimed at you, but this
has been a question for a borderline decade, not not
even close, but every season should the Clippers get Maybe
he just doesn't fit.
Speaker 3: I mean I can see the fit, but like.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: The Jazz aren't having a selloff. By the way, anymore,
marketing is good for this year. He can't be traded,
so they're going to try to win a little bit here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't. And then he's the backup because
he's not starting OVERSU.
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, he'd definitely be the backup. Yeah, And that's why,
like that's I guess. My question too, is like, so
how much are you really willing to give up?
Speaker 1: All?
Speaker 3: Asset wise?
Speaker 2: I think he'd be the starting power forward if they've
got Collins. Yeah, and it would be Derek Jones Junior
or Terrence Man coming off the bench.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd probably be Derek Jones. Right, Eh, you just
got paid. Sorry, I'm looking at Jones Collins stats.
Speaker 2: I'm also intrigued where's he at athletically compared to the
guy that could put his head almost above the rep right.
I know he's still relatively young. Was he twenty seven?
But I think he's had some injuries that a.
Speaker 1: Good shooter on three attempts? I mean, hey, he's kind
of streaky. No, he's a good shooter. He's the average shooter.
Speaker 2: Oh what threes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we kind of do need a power forward center
j R. I'm not argue against them, but we'll see that.
Like this is it. See, the point of this year
is to see maybe what we have. Hopefully Kobe Brown
is good in training camp and stuff like that, because
that is how again, we.
Speaker 2: Can't play young guys and get them opportunities while we're
also still bringing in la You can't have all of them.
How are we ever gonna find out about two guys
that are about to turn twenty five in Kobe Brown
and Jordan.
Speaker 1: Allen Well And the thing with Kobe Brown, Nate g
brings up if Kobe just had a knockdown three pointer,
blah blah blah, that was respectful, blah blah blah. But
there's the other side of the ball. He's slow on
the perimeter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we've seen it.
Speaker 1: He's slow on the perimeter is an issue with Kobe.
He can destroy smaller guys on offense, but he can't
keep up with them. I think you think you're done
with Kobe.
Speaker 3: I like it. I like him.
Speaker 2: I'd like for it to work out, but it's our year,
but not Kobe's.
Speaker 1: Well, it's like he'll get a ring. Kobe will get
a ring, but you know, not with this organization.
Speaker 2: I still think there's a lot that he could prove.
I want to see him get another opportunity. But I
understand what you're saying too, that he's about to turn
twenty five. He has to show something real soon here
and the Summer League was up and down.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think that the thing to me
with Kobe Is, I feel like he's still incredibly wrong,
but not like extremely gifted athletically, So like I don't write,
you know, I.
Speaker 1: Like the guy.
Speaker 3: I would love for him to fry. Of course, I'm
just not seeing it.
Speaker 2: The reason people were trying to compare him to Draymond
is partially because, like Draymond, he's not a great athlete.
So is right, does he have amazing defensive He's one of.
Speaker 1: The best defenders all.
Speaker 2: I was the one making the comparison, but people were
doing that. It's like the only way he could be
Draymond is if he has some semblans of a three
point shot, where Raymond actually used to be good at. Yeah, yeah,
these crazy versatile defensively.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see and you know what, and there's
if there's one thing that this team is generally, when
that starts to snap in, at least for me, that's
your experience.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I started seeing it, like defensively, I started seeing
stuff on a different level and like.
Speaker 1: The three was wet. Yeah, sure, all right, we got
to take another quick break and then I want to
talk maybe an insane idea that I was thinking about
and people getting overcharged into it. Though, which they admitted.
So we're doing an audio break. If you listen to audio,
you missed the live, which is no big deal. It's
up on YouTube if you want to watch the whole thing.
You can see Adam andized new hats, which is cool.
Speaker 3: Chat.
Speaker 1: You can see the chat people are excited about Larry
Nance maybe sometime before the deadline. But thank you for
hanging out in the chat. We'll be back to talk.
A foolish idea, A maybe foolish idea I had and
being overcharged into it for this in three two.
Speaker 2: One, welcome back in and say clips and dip live.
I out of Ozon. We got Chuck Mockler and Will
Updyke and you guys joining us here on the YouTube side.
Very fun. It's a red letter type of days, my
friend Pentrispapadakas would say, because not only are we all
but there was some breaking news just a few minutes
beforehand with the Beatza Zubats signing a three year extension
of about sixty million. So he's making just under twenty
million a year after still making I think the Marvin
Badly thirteen million or whatever it is this year. But
then he gets that that big bump and he has
earned it and then some and we all believe that
he's going to outperform the contract and show anyone who's
getting on me, like some people on Twitter saying, what
ten and nine is your third best player on the team,
because I've been saying it beats the Zubas. I think
it is the third best player, most important player. Watchers,
it's like, well, look at his thirty six, give him,
give him more minutes, and all of a sudden, he's
sixty and ten, no playoffs against the Dallas Mavericks. So
I think we all know his potential is much higher
than ten and not absolutely.
Speaker 1: And again, if you're arguing points and rebounds for something
like that, congratulations on being able to read something that's,
you know, easier to read than a letter. Okay, I
had a crazy idea. There was the Tailiu article. I
was getting hype thinking about him and Van Gundy just
becoming lunatics on the defensive end of the court and
scheming up some good stuff and good things happening for
the Clippers. What would it take for Tyler to win
Coach of the Year if the Clippers are a top
four seed with a top ten defense, and a couple.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately it's not based on playoffs, because if it was
based on playoffs, obviously he's showing.
Speaker 1: Because so yeah, sure, but it is a regular season award,
top ten defense, above app ridge offense, a couple of
signature regular season wins. I think he's in the conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just has to. They have to massively outperform expectations,
and they're really damn low right now for some people.
Speaker 3: I mean that's true, like that, that is true. He
is kind of in a better position. They're real low.
Speaker 1: Like people think this team is going to be.
Speaker 3: What's the Vegas over underwing wins forty three, forty five?
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's forty one. I think
it's like, oh yeah, it's some forty three. Does anyone
know any betting websites I could check? I don't do
pretty sure any of that stuff. Just check your no.
Speaker 3: Code, go ahead, drop chat.
Speaker 1: But what would it take. I think a top four
seed with the top ten defense clinches it.
Speaker 3: That's going to be something.
Speaker 1: I'm looking right now is going to end. I have
to use someone's code, and I've never done this before.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to Colory in to Vegas. It could,
but I.
Speaker 1: Said they might be somebody something. But I think I
was I think this is I think I was sad.
And it was before the DJJ sign it.
Speaker 2: Like right his regency opened up. You're like, other, Well, I.
Speaker 1: Think I said they'd win forty one games, so I
think it was like, you know, it broke the streak
or forty games.
Speaker 2: It's possible when we don't know what Kawhi is playing.
We don't know what how healthy is James Hard going
to be.
Speaker 1: It's like, why is gonna play seventy two games? Hard
to play eighty?
Speaker 2: Give us how many games Kawhi is playing. We'll spit
out the number of wins the.
Speaker 1: Clippers half so you can bet your house on it.
Speaker 2: I thought I saw forty one and a half or
something the other day.
Speaker 1: Where did you see that?
Speaker 2: Somebody was I think quote Mavada.
Speaker 1: Forty and a half, forty everyone's got forty and a half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where they're putting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am this is not advice. This is me
talking about home repair. I am hammering that.
Speaker 2: Stop them.
Speaker 1: I'm rending a jackhammer and just a forty and a half.
Yeah it is.
Speaker 3: I think I think those lots of a week. Like,
I feel like people aren't factoring in how little Paul
George played when he was here into some of those projections.
They won.
Speaker 2: Was a fifty one to fifty two games last season,
God damn man, it was. It was one of the
other are they Are they going to be ten wins
less without Paul George? But yeah, I think they're taking
into account what Vegas.
Speaker 3: But there will be less games than last season too.
Speaker 2: Oh, I've played sixty eight for sure.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 2: If he just doesn't play the sixteen back to backs
one of those games, he's already at sixty six. So yeah,
I think that's a safe bet. But I think what
they're looking at is the West is so deep that
records are going to be lowered overall because of that.
Speaker 1: Does anyone know the odds of them repeating as Pacific
Division champs? I couldn't find that anywhere. Yeah, who has
the pack dev odds? I asked the bookie for those,
and he told me to get away from him.
Speaker 3: Chat Pacific Division.
Speaker 1: He said, dude, you need help. Yeah, chat pack Dave
is Pacific Division. Okay, so we all agree. If you
can find odds on Tyler Coach of the year. Maybe
take that. I think a lot a lot of assistant
Coach of the year. Absolutely, they have a top ten defense,
all right. Then the other thing, people were getting overcharged
into it, which happened for tickets.
Speaker 3: For tickets, I thought it was going to be for
merch because they did acknowledge that. There is a bit
of a flaw with the merch thing. There's been some
if you like, pick stuff up and don't put it
back at one of the designated putbacks where it came from,
you might just get charged for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been a couple of double charges. But they
sent an email, how.
Speaker 2: You pick it up? Commit?
Speaker 1: If Adam worked in the ship store that place, that
place would clear I don't know whatever their daily target is.
That place is.
Speaker 3: Clearly be looking at that for a little long you
have to buy it. You're gonna have to buy it.
Speaker 1: Because of retina scanning. Once your retina has been focused
on the logo long enough, you've purchased that HALP possession
is nine tenths of the law, So you will go
to jail if you do not buy that hat.
Speaker 2: How long you've been staring at that? What your Superman?
You're gonna stare right through it. My god, you got
a vision. Just buy it.
Speaker 1: Game scene. Okay. They sent an email saying, thank you
for your recent purchase of Clippers tickets for the twenty
four to twenty five season. We wanted to inform you
that there was an internal coding error during your train
action which resulted in an overcharge. We have taken the
proper steps to correct the issue. You should receive a
refund for the overcharge for the original point of purchase
to the payment method used within the next five to
seven to business days. We apologize for any inconvenience and
look forward to seeing you this season. Into it though, huh,
go through? They got it fixed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what happens.
Speaker 1: It's not that working out. And for the record, no
one was like complaining about this. They were just like, oh,
I guess I got overcharged. Happens.
Speaker 2: It's almost two months still opening night.
Speaker 1: Still I'm freaking out.
Speaker 2: Episode one for Chuck. He's got the ten outside, Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Now I'm just feeling too good about
the zoo extension. That's a fantastic deal. Shout out Lawrence
Frank all the people who dislike Lawrence Frank. If you
dislike Lawrence Frank, you actually probably also dislike Zoo, So
maybe this is a horrific day for you, which I
hope it is.
Speaker 2: Haters and shambles.
Speaker 1: I didn't say that, Oh, I hope they are. What
do we think the Man extension when is? I know
we kicked it around a little bit, but I would
like that to happen soon.
Speaker 2: I going back to that question about trading Terrence Man. Guys,
he's all over the Halo board. He's the player, profile,
guy featured, he's the biggest ambassadors.
Speaker 1: The public appearances.
Speaker 3: He's Yeah, because the Clippers have never traded someone who
is the face of the franchise famously.
Speaker 2: That's that's fair. But Terrence Man isn't making a ton
of money and on a contract that's could be aging
very poorly. I I have a lot of faith that's
going to get done here in the next couple of months.
Speaker 1: What are you looking at? What do you think, figure wise?
What would you be comfortable with?
Speaker 2: I don't know, someone between sixteen eighteen really yeah, I
was gonna.
Speaker 3: Say, I feel like it's gotta be in the twenty year.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's making less than Zoo was. Now, Zoo
was I think at thirteen, Terrence is at ten. If
he gets the same type of bump, it will put
him around sixteen.
Speaker 1: That's true. But cap goes up once Saudi Arabia starts
investing in all these teams like they're doing with the Wizards.
You know, No, I think seventeen to twenty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that makes sense.
Speaker 1: I could just see him maybe wanting more, but I
don't know what the cap looks like.
Speaker 2: Whatever he gets is deserved because Terrence Man has played
every damn position for this team, has played every role
for this team. He's never complained once. I love Terrence Man.
Speaker 1: Would you like to counterpoint this person who put this
in the chat signment? He hit a ceiling two years ago.
We need to move on.
Speaker 2: One word casual. We need to move on, hey less,
what's the idea who you trading Terrence Man for?
Speaker 1: Let me Collins?
Speaker 2: So they'd have to include somebody else because John Collins
makes like twenty million.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, there's just the The other thing, too, is
like the Clippers are kind of not hamstrung, but they're
kind of their books are a little stuck. I don't
mean that in a bad way, right, Like they've been
as flexible as they possibly could have this offseason with
the Zoo extension to DJJ signing, like it's all been
shrewd moves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are under the first apron I love like.
Speaker 3: Out of the repeater tax. They got a lot of
good stuff on.
Speaker 2: But these are the guys you do invest in. They're
still young, just entering their prime, and I think they're
going to be on a relatively team friendly deal. We
already think of Eats the Zoobots is comparative to his production.
I think Terrence Man is gonna be slotted right there,
and they're both due to have their best years. Uh,
they're still yet to.
Speaker 1: Come well in Terrence is right, so he can do
his extension. He doesn't have to do it right now.
We can do it at the end of the year, right,
Isn't that how it's.
Speaker 2: I think it was the same as Zoo. Yeah, they
could do it later.
Speaker 1: So maybe this is a situation where they're like, hey, man,
you're getting more run this year.
Speaker 2: He could prove it.
Speaker 1: Do you want to prove it? Or do you want
this year that we have here right now? Or do
you want to see how the season plays out? And
knowing Terrence. It seems like he would want to see
how the season plays out because he's gonna he should
Someone has to get more of a chance, right and
can't just be going GOHI and James so cool Terrence.
This is kind of maybe they give him the season
to show what he can do and he gets a
bigger leash. We think.
Speaker 2: I'm guessing. I have no idea what I would guess.
Speaker 1: If that's the case, this is your educated guess.
Speaker 2: There's an offer out there. He thinks he could get
more by having a bet on yourself like year where
he could prove himself. That's the only way I could
see this getting dragged out. Yeah, I think Terrence wants
to be here like a bird in the hands, you know, injuries,
all those other things. You want to get more money
locked up If you can't, just depends on if they
can come to an agreement on how much that is
and what's the fair value.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's exciting, though I feel like it's more of
an It feels like I have more of an exciting
vibe than an ominous vibe. After this Zoo extension, we
have that locked up. Oh do we got a Louis appearance?
On the pod. If you're listening to the pod, you're
missing out on a rare appearance from Will's dog.
Speaker 2: Oh that is a cute pup. That's an e walk.
Speaker 3: One.
Speaker 2: George Lucas wants that dog.
Speaker 1: Well, how much would George Lucas have to pay you
to get to take Louis.
Speaker 2: Say? We settle and redacting?
Speaker 3: What George Lucas though he has like unlimited money, so
we want you know, I guess i'd want a few.
Speaker 1: Mill twelve million?
Speaker 3: He low ball with a hunter Grand. I'd be like
a hunter Grand.
Speaker 1: You can have the car that he drove to come
pick Louie up in He'll get a ride back. I
like what Jordan's saying here. Terrence Ban says Herb Jones potential.
I love Herb Jones. I don't know think he'd be
as good a defender as Herb Jones, but maybe shooting wise.
Speaker 2: Herb Jones is just athletically such a long player. Yeah,
and Terrence Man is older than Herb Jones, so I
don't okay.
Speaker 1: This would be a low ball from JJ the boy.
Uh he said he would trade Will's dog for PJ. Tucker.
Is this a low ball or a high ball. Okay,
so JJ, the boy in the scenerio is the GM
of another team and he has.
Speaker 3: Wait, so I have to give a Louie and I
get PJ Tucker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about that.
Speaker 3: Sounds like a shit deal for me.
Speaker 1: What so I did?
Speaker 3: Was it gonna have all his damn shoes in the crib?
Speaker 1: I think it was La Clippers Film who tweeted something
that was funny that was like PJ Tuck, Bucker and
Bones still on the team in late August. I think
that's what made me have the the nightmare of PJ
Tucker still being on the team. There's just nothing out
there for these guys. But aren't they just gonna be
dnped is Bones getting dnped?
Speaker 2: I wonder if they're invited to training camp if they're
still on team, Like why but what do you do?
Speaker 1: Like you just they and they're like they have and
you know what I mean, like not just has that.
I could be naive here not inviting someone to training
camp who's just like fully under contract and y'all are
going to Hawaii. No two guys one I could see too.
Speaker 2: If their attitudes and headspace was not right, you can't
start training camp with two guys that are already upset
before the season starts, is what I'm saying. Maybe they
are a better place. Hope Spring's eternal. Maybe Bones Thailand
hasn't changed her heart. I don't know about PJ. Tucker,
but Bone Thailand is still a young player that needs
to take advantage of this time. I don't care how
much time you get, do whatever you can't because other
teams are watching him for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think I think barring, like I think,
if they're not invited, I can't like things are cool.
That's like I I mean, we also thought.
Speaker 2: They would be on the team at this point, so
it's like, I mean.
Speaker 3: I agree and I don't. I don't see a role
for either player. But you know, I mean, if you're
hoping to end up anywhere, you know, I feel like
you got to you got to play ball.
Speaker 2: Maybe they're content, Like if KPJ gets suspended, they could
need Bones Highlands still.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like they kind of do still need
Bones Island even I would love that.
Speaker 2: I don't know how he plays though, with all the guards,
and it just seems like they've they've moved on, just
not in the fact that he's actually moved to a
different city yet.
Speaker 1: Because the Clippers traded again. The Clippers traded two seconds
for Bones, so he's not worth that now one second.
I mean, I get like that maybe that's the deal
because you're not one second because you're not packaging them together, right, Like,
what does Bones and PJ. Tucker get you?
Speaker 3: I mean you'd have to be really interested in the
in the young asset and.
Speaker 1: Need an expiring contract.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean that would be the Clippers are
taking on more long term money. Yeah, that's like what do.
Speaker 2: They make together, like fourteen million or something like that.
If you add their two contracts.
Speaker 3: Something something around that, you.
Speaker 2: Probably end up getting somebody that's on a two year deal.
And that looks like a bad contract is what you
probably get there.
Speaker 3: You're like, I think you're lucky if you're only getting
in extra year.
Speaker 1: Yeah. JM one JM. Digits is saying they might wave
and stretch PJ. I mean maybe they would, right.
Speaker 3: I just don't think so. I don't think there's any
point in keeping three mil in the books for or
four mil on the books for three years or whatever.
I think honestly, you know, it's our anyways, just eat
the cost. It's free money. Next year we can afford
at vallmert.
Speaker 1: It's our year, dude, all that, all the championship merch
rev that's coming in to into it now. I don't
know anything else you guys want to talk about? Clippers wise,
feeling good after the zoo extension. I tweeted that is gigantic.
Speaker 3: From being from being a quiet week to a pretty
good week in the.
Speaker 1: In the old Clippers sphere, we had a Rico Heides
run with all the young guys again, we got the
Zoo contract. Yeah, things are, look things are. It's a
good week for Clippers fans on a Friday.
Speaker 2: A little more eventful than what we've had since Summer League.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, yeah. I don't know if they tracking out
on the YouTube's for those of you who hung out
will for the people who are listening to this or
the people watching if they wanted to be extra special
fantastic fans, where could they review or let people know
their thoughts publicly about this podcast.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to let us know your
thoughts publicly about this podcast, just hop over to YouTube
dot com slash at Clippers podcast. You comment on any
video you could hop in here on the Live Commonest
right to our faces. You can also listen to this
podcast wherever you do that. If you wanted to leave
a ratiing and review, you could do that over on
Apple Podcasts or Spotify. You know we'd like that. But
anyway you consume the show, we appreciate it.
Speaker 1: We really do an adam one positive thing before we
let these Clippers fans go enjoy their wonderful long weekend,
happy Labor Day.
Speaker 2: By the way, Uh well, someone just paid us a
buck ninety nine, So I'll make this the positive. Maybe
Bones and Tucker for Dori and Phinney Smith I'd sign
up for.
Speaker 3: That could be the move.
Speaker 2: He's solid now he's making there it is. He cranked
out the numbers. He's at fifteen million, so the math
would work there, and then he has he is. Maybe
they see themselves. I mean, if anyone's rebuilding and not
trying to win this season, as they're going for Cooper flag,
it's Brooklyn, so they might welcome a guy like Bones Highland.
Even though they have some young scorers. It wouldn't be
that crazy. And if they don't want to win ball games,
they might want to trade Dorian Phizabeth, He's got a
player option the next year for fifteen million. Probably opt
out and get a longer deal. But I like Dorian
Finish Smith, I would welcome that. So the Clippers, they
still have moves to make, whether it happens in the
offseason or during the year. I like what Chuck said earlier,
Let's wait and see how this team looks and then
start to maybe maneuver a little bit, And I think
they're going to keep it interested in that way. So
many people have talked about how they can't wait for
this season because they don't know exactly what's going to happen.
The expectations are obviously lower, but you still feel like,
what if they could still get out of the playing somehow.
If Kawhi Leonard looks good, this team could still be
very dangerous. As you said, they're that tough team you
don't have to play every night.
Speaker 1: Well, I think Will knows what's Will thinks he knows
what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: There's only one out.
Speaker 2: Doctor our year.
Speaker 1: Will has seen seventy thousand outcomes and they're all the same,
and every single one.
Speaker 3: Tanya, this is the most I've felt it in the
two and three years.
Speaker 1: I mean, just the most I've felt it, just crazy,
just wild.
Speaker 2: I don't need to do the positive thing at the
end of the show. We should will be like, hey, will,
what's positive about this year? This year?
Speaker 1: What year is a dog?
Speaker 3: This year is going to be different, guys, a lot different.
Speaker 1: I've never said that as a Clippers fan. I'm excited
to say that for the first Thank you everyone for
hanging out. We're gonna be live during the regular season
our Cup at least once a week, probably, but we're
gonna have episodes three times a week for sure. Just
get ready because we have a bunch of good content coming,
and try to get to into it for the preseason
seems like a good time. We will be with you
next week. Couldn't tell you the day, but it will
be Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday or Friday. We will talk
to you there and as always,