Speaker 1: We're pretty similar in our views, and we're both pretty
Speaker 1: oh we're both very good looking. So yes, this is
Speaker 1: actually Christi Kafer sitting in for Andy Connell. And no
Speaker 1: doubt you've heard this voice before. I've been I've been
Speaker 1: on air.
Speaker 2: Different stations, different times, probably for the.
Speaker 1: Last ten years, sometimes with a mic partner, sometimes without.
Speaker 2: And sometimes I'm just I guess a scene but not heard.
Speaker 2: I guess you could say.
Speaker 1: I'm a columnist for the Denver Post and I'm also
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Speaker 1: I've posted a little something something up there on that
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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, enough with that, we're gonna move on to
Speaker 1: the show. My text line is five six six nine. Oh,
Speaker 1: if you want to weigh on, wag in way in,
Speaker 1: way on, whatever, whatever.
Speaker 2: You want to do. Topics for today include.
Speaker 1: It's Colorado's birthday, talk a little bit about what we
Speaker 1: like about the state and what we don't like so much.
Speaker 1: I am a Colorado native. I actually have a bank
Speaker 1: I got when I was let's see, six years old.
Speaker 1: It's it was like the was it the bi centennial
Speaker 1: and it's like a little liberty bell bank. I still
Speaker 1: have it. But we are the centennial state for a reason.
Speaker 1: We became a state in eighteen seventy six, so you know,
Speaker 1: kind of like seventeen seventy six, and yeah, that's why
Speaker 1: we're the centennial state. Anyway, we have a birthday today.
Speaker 1: It's not the big birthday. I think the big birthday
Speaker 1: is next year. And yeah, I remember the governor was
Speaker 1: going to build that silly bridge to nowhere to see
Speaker 1: what to.
Speaker 2: Celebrate the birthday.
Speaker 1: But we got to figure out a better way to
Speaker 1: blow a few million dollars in taxpayer revenue on the
Speaker 1: state's birthday.
Speaker 2: I say, hey, how about you.
Speaker 1: Just mail us each a check and we'll call it good. Also,
Speaker 1: when was the last time you saw a really funny movie.
Speaker 2: At the movie theater?
Speaker 1: Not on TV, not streaming, not off your phone, not
Speaker 1: off your tablet, actually saw it in the theater?
Speaker 2: And if you're thinking, not a lot used to go to.
Speaker 1: Comedies all the time back in the nineteen eighties.
Speaker 2: But not so much now.
Speaker 1: There's actually a reason for that. Wall Street Journal ways
Speaker 1: in don't know why you should also think about seeing
Speaker 1: the Naked Gun reboots with Liam Neeson.
Speaker 2: I am, I'm down for that.
Speaker 1: Also why we should give Congressman Kate Gabe Evans a break,
Speaker 1: why NPR should be defunded, and how the left keeps
Speaker 1: the American majority leaning right. Yeah, hey, thanks for the
Speaker 1: assist out there, lefties. There's a reason why the nation
Speaker 1: has moved rightward, and it's because.
Speaker 2: Of some of the silly stuff you do.
Speaker 1: And I say this as as basically a moderate.
Speaker 2: I know some of you're like, oh, she's a moderate.
Speaker 1: I'm turning it off now, But you know, there's a
Speaker 1: handful of us out there moderate's on the air.
Speaker 2: I'm a moderate, righty, I am a Republican, but.
Speaker 1: I gotta think the left sometimes you guys do something
Speaker 1: so silly it keeps keeps the nation moving right. And
Speaker 1: I'm probably more libertarian than than conservative.
Speaker 2: Kind of like Ross, kind of like me Andy.
Speaker 1: I'm super pro life though, so I don't know where
Speaker 1: that puts me somewhere in there. But anyway, let's start
Speaker 1: off with the birthday. Five six six nine zero is.
Speaker 2: The text line.
Speaker 1: And before I forget, want to give a little shout
Speaker 1: out to Zach, who is the producer behind the glass,
Speaker 1: making it all, making it all happen. Just a moment ago,
Speaker 1: saw Shannon, one of my favorite producers here at KOA
Speaker 1: and I said, Hey, Shannon, can you give me a
Speaker 1: favorite He says, does.
Speaker 2: Does it involve fleeing the state in a stolen car?
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, yeah, you hit it on
Speaker 1: the you hit it on the head, and that you know,
Speaker 1: in addition to the question I'm about to throw out
Speaker 1: about the state, if you want to answer this question,
Speaker 1: you can. If you were to flee the state in
Speaker 1: a stolen car, what will them make in the model?
Speaker 1: I say this because if I was going to flee
Speaker 1: the state in a stolen car, it would be a
Speaker 1: Chevy Chevelle Malibu convertible Blue.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If I'm flaying the state in a stolen car, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm going to be driving.
Speaker 2: Anyway. The question is.
Speaker 1: This, given that it is the state's ber Day, whether
Speaker 1: you're a native or not, what do you like about
Speaker 1: the state? What do you don't like about the states?
Speaker 1: I say, this is a native, right, So I'm looking
Speaker 1: back over I'm not going to say how many years
Speaker 1: I've lived here, but looking back over the years, the decades,
Speaker 1: there's some things that I really like, some things that
Speaker 1: have happened to the state that I think are really
Speaker 1: really quite nice.
Speaker 2: Other things not so much.
Speaker 1: And here's one of the not so much things. It's
Speaker 1: the crime rate still pretty high in this state, especially
Speaker 1: the city of Denver, Denver, I just saw a report
Speaker 1: by the common in the Common Sense Institute found that
Speaker 1: in most categories, crime is up from it last year.
Speaker 1: The Mayor of Denver's correct, homicide is down.
Speaker 2: That's that's good.
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's nice to stay alive, but other
Speaker 1: crimes are up. And I got to say it's a
Speaker 1: it's an issue. So my sister, she and my niece go,
Speaker 1: I think it was just the bookstore. Somebody steals their bikes.
Speaker 2: It's a vagrant camp that's down the street.
Speaker 1: A bunch of vagrants that steal bikes and do drugs
Speaker 1: and drink and live in tents near the walmart and
Speaker 1: takes their bikes. So my sister calls. She calls the cops.
Speaker 1: She also calls a friend. She says, you know, they
Speaker 1: just took our bikes. Well, the friend finds the one bike,
Speaker 1: takes it from the vagrant and and you know, but
Speaker 1: get throws it in the in the truck and drives away.
Speaker 1: By then the cops show up and she says, see
Speaker 1: that bike over there, that's my bike. I know the
Speaker 1: combination of the lock. That's my bike. Those people took it.
Speaker 1: Can can you help me get it back?
Speaker 2: And the police are like, no, not so much, not
Speaker 2: unless we know the VEN number.
Speaker 1: If we knew the VIN number, if you had the
Speaker 1: VEN number, maybe we could get the bike back. Who
Speaker 1: knows the VIN number of the bike. I don't know
Speaker 1: the VEN number of my car.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know the VIN number of anything. I certainly
Speaker 1: don't know it for my bikes. But she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could describe the bike. I can tell you the
Speaker 1: bikelock combination. We can walk thirty feet over there, I
Speaker 1: can get my bike back, and the police refuse to
Speaker 1: do anything.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this means that my sister and
Speaker 1: I need to go vigilante or what, but it is.
Speaker 1: It's an issue I think about. I have an uncle
Speaker 1: that was run over by a drunk driver. They know
Speaker 1: who the drunk driver was. It's one of three drunk
Speaker 1: people in a car random over left him for dead,
Speaker 1: broke something like thirty bones, he said, I don't know
Speaker 1: how many surgeries. He's lucky to be alive. They know
Speaker 1: who the culprits are. Two and a half years later,
Speaker 1: I guess where those culprits are. They're still out and about,
Speaker 1: still driving, Yeah, still doing all the things that us
Speaker 1: free people do. They are not behind bars even though
Speaker 1: they are guilty of a drunken hit and run. It
Speaker 1: just yeah, the crime in this city and the fact
Speaker 1: that some folks are are gonna get you know, are
Speaker 1: getting away with it is just really really sickening. Getting
Speaker 1: some stuff coming in on the coming in on the
Speaker 1: text line.
Speaker 2: Five six six nine to zero. And yeah, this.
Speaker 1: Person says, the problem is that smart, strong people, rather
Speaker 1: than move away than stay and fight it enables you
Speaker 1: need to cut the cancer out.
Speaker 2: I can't say that word on the air, but yeah, there.
Speaker 1: Is something to be said about people leaving the state
Speaker 1: of Colorado instead of fighting it.
Speaker 2: But that said, there's still quite a few people who
Speaker 2: are fighting it.
Speaker 1: I think about the Centennial Institute, the Independence Institute, the
Speaker 1: Common Sense Institute. There are a number of organizations that
Speaker 1: are fighting the good fight, trying to move, trying to
Speaker 1: move the state back in the direction that it needs
Speaker 1: to go. Oh this is nice, this person says, so
Speaker 1: nice to hear your voice, and please wish Mandy well,
Speaker 1: I can do.
Speaker 2: That for you.
Speaker 1: Can certainly do that for you. Other things coming in
Speaker 1: on five six six nine to zero. Love traveling the state,
Speaker 1: this person says, nature is amazing. Not so much the
Speaker 1: cost of living in Colorado. Yeah, that is an issue
Speaker 1: as well. In addition to crime, which I just talked
Speaker 1: a bit about. How about this little nugget that I
Speaker 1: just read, the number one city. This is based on
Speaker 1: a report using Zillow, which sell it as like a
Speaker 1: home buying website home selling website. The cities with the
Speaker 1: highest number of for sale listings with price reductions, meaning
Speaker 1: that people want to sell their house, they want to
Speaker 1: get out of here. They put their house up there,
Speaker 1: they're optimistic, They're like, yeah, this house will go for
Speaker 1: a lot, and then a couple of weeks go by,
Speaker 1: maybe a month goes by, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to drop the price.
Speaker 1: And what city is number one when it comes to
Speaker 1: having to reduce the price of your house before you
Speaker 1: can sell it.
Speaker 2: It would be Denver. Kind of scary.
Speaker 1: The article goes on to say, and I have it
Speaker 1: up on my Twitter. You follow Twitter, you can see
Speaker 1: it there. The actual article that yeah, the Denver, Raleigh, Dallas, Nashville, Phoenix,
Speaker 1: those are all the below lights, if you will, the
Speaker 1: cities that have the most amount of listings with dropped prices.
Speaker 1: That all of these cities went to a pandemic boom.
Speaker 1: People came here, they wanted to work remotely, They thought, yeah,
Speaker 1: Denver's a great city, moved in, bought a house, and
Speaker 1: now are thinking about going elsewhere.
Speaker 2: And honestly, I don't think a day goes by that
Speaker 2: I don't think about going elsewhere.
Speaker 1: Whether it's the traffic. I think that's an issue. The
Speaker 1: crime rate. The cost of living is astronaut between my
Speaker 1: mortgage and my healthcare payment, like one of those Colorado
Speaker 1: Healthcare marketplace plans between the two of those, and that's
Speaker 1: most of my income right there. And so it's the
Speaker 1: cost of living, crime and traffic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes me want to go. And I remember,
Speaker 2: I remember when.
Speaker 1: We could ski on the weekends, or for that matter,
Speaker 1: hike on the weekends. Now I work weekends now, so
Speaker 1: I guess I don't have that option.
Speaker 2: But I won't ski on the weekend.
Speaker 1: You could give me a free lift ticket to Copper Mountain,
Speaker 1: my favorite, my favorite resort, for a weekend, and I
Speaker 1: wouldn't go. I wouldn't go because by the time you
Speaker 1: get up there, you've been in traffic for multiple hours.
Speaker 1: Now you're going to wait in lift lines over and
Speaker 1: over and over again. You're gonna get in about five
Speaker 1: runs before you go home.
Speaker 2: If you decide to buy lunch there as.
Speaker 1: Opposed to packet, you're looking at twenty bucks for a
Speaker 1: tiny cup of chile.
Speaker 2: I know I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1: I will I'll ski any other day of the week,
Speaker 1: but Saturday and Sunday is out and some of that matter.
Speaker 1: You know, camping, hiking, all of that on the weekends
Speaker 1: is nearly impossible. You're a better bet going up to
Speaker 1: Wyoming then to stick around here. So yeah, between the
Speaker 1: crime rate, the traffic, the weekends, it is, it's not
Speaker 1: as much fun as it was twenty years ago, let's
Speaker 1: put it that way.
Speaker 2: But you know, there's still some good things. I will
Speaker 2: say this.
Speaker 1: As compared to the rest the Colorado of my youth.
Speaker 1: I don't know why my computer is malfunctioning here, sorry,
Speaker 1: little inside.
Speaker 2: We have better restaurants now, I mean, do you remember
Speaker 2: do you remember.
Speaker 1: Nineteen seventies, nineteen eighties Denver, Denver Metro you had like
Speaker 1: the Chinese restaurant, all of those diners maybe I remember,
Speaker 1: you know, I think it.
Speaker 2: Was Benny Hannah.
Speaker 1: You could go to White Fence Farm, which I think
Speaker 1: was good in theory.
Speaker 2: I think their food was terrible.
Speaker 1: Old Kasabanita which was fun, but the food was kind
Speaker 1: of in edible, I mean except for the soapo peas.
Speaker 2: So yeah, not the best food. Do you remember that.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you wanted to go somewhere interesting, you
Speaker 1: had to go downtown.
Speaker 2: Well, now you don't have to.
Speaker 1: Every little part of the metro area now has a
Speaker 1: cute little main street.
Speaker 2: I don't go downtown anymore.
Speaker 1: If I want to take friends that are out of
Speaker 1: town somewhere fun, go to Littleton's.
Speaker 2: Main street, go to Parker's main street.
Speaker 1: By the way, Parker's got a great, really great farmers
Speaker 1: market on Sundays.
Speaker 2: You should check it out. It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: But I mean, there's farmers' markets everywhere. There's cute little
Speaker 1: town centers everywhere. There's really no need to go downtown
Speaker 1: unless you want to see a play. But even there,
Speaker 1: Parker has a culture center, Littleton's got a cute little playhouse,
Speaker 1: or Vada Center's got some really great acts. So you
Speaker 1: don't even have to go downtown to go to the
Speaker 1: to go see a play. You could just go somewhere regionally.
Speaker 1: And that's better than in nineteen seventies and eighties.
Speaker 2: Growing up, growing up.
Speaker 1: I remember Littleton, which has got like the cutest main
Speaker 1: street ever. It was so seedy, all these empty storefronts.
Speaker 1: Now it's fantastic.
Speaker 2: Golden.
Speaker 1: Golden's got a great, you know, great little main street,
Speaker 1: a lot of fun stuff.
Speaker 2: So this person says, by the way.
Speaker 1: I will not go downtown unless I have my concealed
Speaker 1: carry on me.
Speaker 2: It's too dangerous. Hey, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2: You just don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, the chances of something happening are pretty low.
Speaker 1: I guess depending on when you're down there.
Speaker 2: Two am.
Speaker 1: Maybe problematic, but it is. It's sketchy. It's totally sketchy.
Speaker 1: It's totally sketchy. Let's see, Uh what else? AWE so
Speaker 1: nice to hear you, christer Richard the elk hunter. Yes,
Speaker 1: Richard brought me some elk. I made an announcement when
Speaker 1: I was on the air.
Speaker 2: Sometime last year.
Speaker 1: I was like, if anyone wants to give me, you know,
Speaker 1: anyone who hunts wants to give me something delicious, I
Speaker 1: will certainly take it off your hands. We're not in
Speaker 1: a hunting season yet, but you can even give me,
Speaker 1: like if you I love I love goose.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know I'm tangenting here.
Speaker 1: I love goose, And you can actually just drop off
Speaker 1: goose or ducks.
Speaker 2: You don't even have to they don't have to skin
Speaker 2: them or clean them.
Speaker 1: I'll do all that. It's fine. And somebody took me
Speaker 1: up on it. Richard did and he gave me some
Speaker 1: elk meat. Elk meat is like better than beef. It's
Speaker 1: thelish So thanks a lot. I definitely appreciate it. Other
Speaker 1: folks talking about the cost of living making it hard
Speaker 1: to live here, having to work two jobs, Yeah I
Speaker 1: get that.
Speaker 2: I think I worked like five jobs, this.
Speaker 1: Person said before COVID, I didn't need to work two
Speaker 1: jobs on top of my retirement pay. This person also
Speaker 1: loves the outdoor stuff, hunting, fishing, backpacking, and yeah, I
Speaker 1: get it. It is absolutely gorgeous. On the more important question.
Speaker 2: Than I asked, I asked the question of what do
Speaker 2: you like what do you don't like about the state?
Speaker 2: Which is turning? It's what are we turning?
Speaker 1: We're turning ninety nine? I guess today. State was founded
Speaker 1: in eighteen seventy six. Am, I, I'm not doing the
Speaker 1: math right on that. I think it's No.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm not doing the math right on that here?
Speaker 2: Do I actually think it is?
Speaker 1: Anyway, we were admitted by as the thirty eighth state
Speaker 1: in eighteen seventy six.
Speaker 2: And we're having a birthday.
Speaker 1: I asked what do you love about the state, what
Speaker 1: do you hate about the state?
Speaker 2: And some good answers on that. I also asked if
Speaker 2: you were.
Speaker 1: To flee the state in a stolen automobile, but what
Speaker 1: would it be And.
Speaker 2: This person said, if I had to split the state,
Speaker 2: it would be in a vintage white El Dorado convertible. Nice. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: I would have a fleet of old cars if I
Speaker 1: had the money, I would have like a true Mini,
Speaker 1: you know those little not the new Mini Mini, but
Speaker 1: the old Minis which were like the size of you know,
Speaker 1: not much bigger than you know, a human body, teeny
Speaker 1: tiny cars. I would have an El Camino because she's
Speaker 1: just so hideous.
Speaker 2: I love them, and.
Speaker 1: It would have to be like a really hideous shade
Speaker 1: of brown. I have an El Camino. I would have
Speaker 1: a Chevy Chevelle Malibu convertible. I'd have an old Ford truck. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's so many great old cars out there. I used
Speaker 1: to have a muscle car and I loved hearing that
Speaker 1: engine per it. H. There's nothing like a car that
Speaker 1: can do zero to sixty and six seconds. And I
Speaker 1: will say this for those electric cars. I do not
Speaker 1: have an electric car, mostly because I don't have what
Speaker 1: seventy thousand dollars to drop on a new vehicle, especially
Speaker 1: when that you know, when the battery dies, kind of
Speaker 1: the car's done.
Speaker 2: I don't need that.
Speaker 1: But I did get to try one of those teslas.
Speaker 2: And it was zero to sixty and three seconds. There's
Speaker 2: somebody who likes a little speed. It wasn't too bad. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it wasn't too bad. Hey, we're gonna take a break
Speaker 2: now when we.
Speaker 1: Get back, let's maybe switch subjects.
Speaker 2: I like this birthday subject. We may return to it
Speaker 2: later on in the show.
Speaker 1: But I also liked the idea of when was the
Speaker 1: last time you saw a funny movie? And are you
Speaker 1: thinking about going to see the reboot of Naked Gun?
Speaker 2: And I mentioned den royno. What was Denver like back
Speaker 2: in the nineteen seventies and eighties?
Speaker 1: It was it was not all that everybody littered, everybody
Speaker 1: smoked cigarettes. The only nice, you know, really nice restaurant
Speaker 1: downtown was the Magic Pan. There weren't nearly as many
Speaker 1: wonderful trails and great nature things as they are now,
Speaker 1: got nearly as many nice little main streets, but it
Speaker 1: also wasn't super expensive and.
Speaker 2: You know, riddled with crime either some good, some bad.
Speaker 1: But back in the eighties, when Naked Gun came out.
Speaker 1: It was truly one of the most hilarious movies. When
Speaker 1: you think about the last couple of years, when was
Speaker 1: the last time you saw a funny movie? I mean,
Speaker 1: and I'm not talking on one that was just a
Speaker 1: little bit witty, Like I mean, technically, Deadpool is not
Speaker 1: it's not a comedy.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a superhero movie. It's also wonderfully funny.
Speaker 2: Some of my favorite movies or Deadpool movies. But I'm
Speaker 2: talking to the movie.
Speaker 1: That is billed purely as a comedy, not a film
Speaker 1: that is like an action film with some funny stuff
Speaker 1: in it, like Logan Lucky or Nice Guys. Like they're
Speaker 1: primarily action movies with some The last time you went
Speaker 1: to an actual comedy didn't stream it went to the theater.
Speaker 2: Think back five, six, six, nine. Oh, we're gonna take
Speaker 2: a quick break. When we get.
Speaker 1: Back, let's talk about funny movies.
Speaker 2: This is Christy Kafer.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in for Mandy Connell and you're listening to
Speaker 1: eight fifty KOA. This is Christy Kafer filling in. You
Speaker 1: can check me out at Christa Kaefer.
Speaker 2: On Twitter or check out my sub stack.
Speaker 1: I actually reprint my columns, my Denver Post columns. There
Speaker 1: you can subscribe. I also, you know, I'll give you
Speaker 1: some stuff for free. So whatever whatever you need to do,
Speaker 1: appreciate appreciate the support either way. Somebody just texted and said, hey,
Speaker 1: when are you going to get to your next show?
Speaker 1: I used to have my own show, and tell you what,
Speaker 1: it was a lot of fun. But it is a
Speaker 1: privilege to sub in for Mandy times I saw and
Speaker 1: for Ross, both of whom are just fantastic human beings.
Speaker 1: So great to be here as what was the movie
Speaker 1: you last saw? The last funny, funny movie you saw
Speaker 1: in theaters? And not funny as an incidentally funny or
Speaker 1: like an action movie, but kind of humorous.
Speaker 2: I'll bring a Deadpool again.
Speaker 1: I love Deadpool, but it's technically a super movie, superhero movie.
Speaker 2: I love, you know. I love action movies that have.
Speaker 1: Some humor in them, but they're not comedies primarily, they're
Speaker 1: action movies. In fact, I right now I'm watching the
Speaker 1: movie Nobody, which is my favorite movie. I think I'm
Speaker 1: seeing it for the tenth time on Amazon. I'd love
Speaker 1: that movie. Not only is it funny, it's full of action,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just it's just a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't billed as a comedy.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: It's an action movie that is also kind of ironically funny.
Speaker 1: Last funny movie you saw in the theater. Also, if
Speaker 1: you were going to flee the state and a stolen car,
Speaker 1: what would be what would be that stolen car? I said,
Speaker 1: I flee the state in a Chevy Chavelle Malibu convertible with.
Speaker 2: The top down. Obviously.
Speaker 1: This person said they're going to escape Colorado in a
Speaker 1: shell a Shelby four to twenty seven corbaal No, sorry, Cobra,
Speaker 1: good grief, I gotta get glasses, Cobra. Yes, the Shelbury
Speaker 1: Cobra is a beautiful, beautiful car, so you, Lilia, that's
Speaker 1: a very very good choice there. Another person said they're
Speaker 1: going to flee in a in a loaded Brinks truck
Speaker 1: Jason very clever. Yes, I guess if you're going to
Speaker 1: flee the state in a stolen vehicle, running off with
Speaker 1: a couple of mill in the back of the truck
Speaker 1: is definitely.
Speaker 2: The way to go. As for funny movies, and you'll
Speaker 2: see where I'm going here.
Speaker 1: This person says, last movie they saw was the Austin
Speaker 1: Power movies. Those were absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 2: What is that? It's like twenty years ago?
Speaker 1: Right? Another person said the Monty Python.
Speaker 2: And the Holy Grail.
Speaker 1: I think we're looking at what nineteen seventy nine on that,
Speaker 1: and speaking of dates, I have to I will correct myself.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I said the state was one
Speaker 1: hundred years old. I think I'm having math atrophy, like
Speaker 1: I used to be able to do math, but not anymore.
Speaker 1: It's like I hit a certain age and lost the ability.
Speaker 1: It's slame. But a bunch of people texted and they
Speaker 1: were like, hey, for it's a we're one hundred and
Speaker 1: forty nine years old.
Speaker 2: Do the math? Yes, we are one hundred and forty
Speaker 2: nine years old.
Speaker 1: And well, I was like, I meant talking a little bit
Speaker 1: about what we liked and didn't like about the state.
Speaker 1: Moving on, although I am keeping the question as to
Speaker 1: what you would flee the state in?
Speaker 2: What stolen car would you flee the state in?
Speaker 1: And of course I am in no way advocating auto
Speaker 1: grand auto theft, although stealing Chevy Chavelle Malibu and fleeing
Speaker 1: the state is is kind of an attractive option. I
Speaker 1: also like a bitchin Camaro. It'd be nice, it'd be nice.
Speaker 1: This person says that black trans am stolen from the
Speaker 1: movie bannedit.
Speaker 2: Hey, good call. So the reason I bring up.
Speaker 1: The last funny movie is there was an interesting article
Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal and I read the Wall
Speaker 1: Street Journal every morning online talking about how comedies are
Speaker 1: actually a little bit of a risk. I know it
Speaker 1: sounds strange, but a little bit of a risk for
Speaker 1: these producers, Like they're pretty sure if they put out
Speaker 1: a big, you know, Jurassic Park style movie.
Speaker 2: Someone's gonna go see it.
Speaker 1: But comedy is you don't really know if they're funny
Speaker 1: until they're out. Like you could put a movie out
Speaker 1: there that's supposed to be hilarious and everyone's like, eh,
Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of funny. Like I just
Speaker 1: recently watched that South Park episode the new instead of
Speaker 1: reboot for the season, her debut for the season, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I thought it was a little cringey, actually,
Speaker 1: But if you produce comedy, you don't know, You don't
Speaker 1: know if a crowd's going to find it funny.
Speaker 2: You may think it's hilarious and the audience is.
Speaker 1: Like eh, So it's a big risk, especially nowadays when
Speaker 1: we all have kind of different ideas as to what's funny.
Speaker 2: Some people are easily offended.
Speaker 1: It takes a risk, and so they're putting out fewer
Speaker 1: and fewer comedies. They're doing, you know, they're putting humor
Speaker 1: into kids movies, they're putting humor into action movies, that
Speaker 1: kind of thing. But they're not releasing big comedies into
Speaker 1: the theater.
Speaker 2: You can catch them online. They go right to streaming.
Speaker 1: But the studios take a big risk when they go
Speaker 1: for a big comedy. And so we're talking about the
Speaker 1: newest it's the reboot of the Naked Gun movie. Of
Speaker 1: course they have to go see it. I absolutely love
Speaker 1: Liam Neeson and some are saying he's really the only
Speaker 1: guy that could do Leslie Nelson the original And why
Speaker 1: was Leslie Nelson's so good at it? Is he could
Speaker 1: play that character, Frank was it Drummond totally seriously and
Speaker 1: he could do it with a straight face. Well, it
Speaker 1: turns out Liam Neeson ken as well, he can play
Speaker 1: that character with a straight face.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go see it.
Speaker 1: As I thought about it, how many you know, when
Speaker 1: was the last time I saw a funny movie. I
Speaker 1: thought Game Night back in twenty eighteen was pretty funny.
Speaker 2: See if I could do the math now? Seven years
Speaker 2: ago I laughed.
Speaker 1: Uproariously at Bride'smaids, Bride'smaids.
Speaker 2: That that is a very very funny movie.
Speaker 1: But you know, I just there's not a lot of
Speaker 1: and we're talking, you know, laugh.
Speaker 2: Until you hurt kinds of movies.
Speaker 1: I really like Death of Stalin if you like a
Speaker 1: little like a little ironic humor, a little U that's
Speaker 1: really But I didn't see it in the theater, so
Speaker 1: it's streaming.
Speaker 2: And you don't take much of a.
Speaker 1: Risk when you watch a movie on your iPhone on
Speaker 1: your TV set.
Speaker 2: Did you get halfway through it?
Speaker 1: You're like meh, or maybe you're doing something else in
Speaker 1: cleaning the kitchen, whatever, it's not much of a risk.
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna pay what is it now, fifteen bucks,
Speaker 1: you know, another fifteen for the popcorn. If you're gonna
Speaker 1: do that, you want to make sure that it's pretty
Speaker 1: damn funny.
Speaker 2: What have you seen recently that you thought was funny?
Speaker 1: Let me know five six, six, nine, Oh, this person says,
Speaker 1: I'm hesitant to see Liam Neeson in comedy because I
Speaker 1: just I love him. But yeahl I'm sure it's good.
Speaker 1: I love him. You know what I love about him
Speaker 1: is that he hit.
Speaker 2: His stride in movies.
Speaker 1: I think in his late fifties early sixties, is probably
Speaker 1: in his early seventies now. And he's brilliant, funny. You know,
Speaker 1: he's badass. I think I've seen that movie taken like
Speaker 1: ten times because I love it so much. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I absolutely love it, and I love that he's doing this.
Speaker 1: I love that he can comedy because a lot of folks,
Speaker 1: a lot of folks can't. This person says, I love
Speaker 1: the bus scene and nobody they're fleeing the state in
Speaker 1: a BMW of Z four. Ooh, nice choice for I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not an old car, but it's a nice choice.
Speaker 1: This person's leaving in a Mercedes bus.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: You know, I think having a folks Way, and I
Speaker 1: think about the fleet of ANTIQ cars I would own.
Speaker 1: Volkswagen Bus would be in there. I don't know if
Speaker 1: i'd want to flee the state because uh yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure we'd actually make it out of the state.
Speaker 1: This person said the last really funny movie they saw
Speaker 1: was The banshees of in Shearion highly recommend we have
Speaker 1: to check that out. I guess Nobody Too comes out
Speaker 1: in two weeks. I hope it says good. I hope
Speaker 1: it's as good as the first one, because the first
Speaker 1: one is brilliant. Everything about it, like the direction, the acting,
Speaker 1: the chaos. It just now you kind of see what
Speaker 1: kind of movies I like. When people are like, oh, Christa,
Speaker 1: you need to go see this very serious drama about
Speaker 1: the family confronting cancer, I'm like, well, I already lived that,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna go with no. But I will go
Speaker 1: see action films. Love action films. They have a little
Speaker 1: humor in them.
Speaker 2: Even better. We're gonn take a break now. But before
Speaker 2: we hit that brake, I gotta say.
Speaker 1: This person's saying they're going to flee in a sixty
Speaker 1: nine Musting Cobra Jet four twenty nine. Yeah, anything Mustang
Speaker 1: is beautiful. I used to have a Mustang and but
Speaker 1: you know, here's the thing is, it has to be
Speaker 1: a stick shift. I'm a big fan of stick shifts anyway,
Speaker 1: but if you're gonna have a.
Speaker 2: Fast car, you have to have I guess got to
Speaker 2: be a stick shift.
Speaker 1: This person says, flee in a ranger side by side with.
Speaker 2: A beer in hand.
Speaker 1: Hey is, if you got to break the law, you
Speaker 1: gotta go big, Christakabeer. I'm sitting in for Mandy Connell.
Speaker 1: We are listening to eight fifty Kowa.
Speaker 2: I'll be back in a jiff.
Speaker 1: For I am sitting in for Mandy Connell and she's
Speaker 1: doing great. I just just got a little update. So anyway,
Speaker 1: it's great. It's great to be here, great to great
Speaker 1: to have you listening, thanks so much, and great to
Speaker 1: have Zach behind the glass helping out. I definitely appreciate it.
Speaker 1: This person says, I've been going to flee the state
Speaker 1: and the car is stolen. I would want it to
Speaker 1: be under the radar. So how about a two thousand
Speaker 1: super U who'd be looking for that?
Speaker 2: Hey man?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right leaving the state in a flashy convertible
Speaker 1: muscle car.
Speaker 2: You know, just a style?
Speaker 1: Right, Really isn't the wisest choice if you're going to
Speaker 1: flee in a stolen car, really should be like, you know,
Speaker 1: an old think is, can you get an old Subaru
Speaker 1: without like, you know, free Tibet sticker on it or
Speaker 1: coexists sticker?
Speaker 2: On it.
Speaker 1: I think, doesn't that come with the Subaru. It just
Speaker 1: seems to me that they all have that talking a
Speaker 1: little bit about you know, was the last time we
Speaker 1: saw a funny movie?
Speaker 2: And it's kind of a lighthearted subject.
Speaker 1: We'll get into something a little heavier in the next hour,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it takes a lot of risk for
Speaker 1: studio to produce.
Speaker 2: A big comedy.
Speaker 1: And that's why when you think back, you're getting people
Speaker 1: texting me right now at five six six and I
Speaker 1: know saying yeah, back in the seventies, I saw.
Speaker 2: This, it was hilarious. The eighties, I saw this, it
Speaker 2: was hilarious.
Speaker 1: But not a lot of folks saying, you know, last
Speaker 1: week I saw something, or even last year. And that's
Speaker 1: because the studios have been very reluctant to produce big
Speaker 1: comedies and put them into the movie theater.
Speaker 2: Most of the time they go straight to streaming.
Speaker 1: In fact, I think Happy Gilmour too went straight to streaming.
Speaker 1: And Adam Sandler is one of the most funny human
Speaker 1: beings live, but if his stuff is going right to streaming,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, there's a little bit of a
Speaker 1: risk for.
Speaker 2: Studios to put out big comedies.
Speaker 1: Especially in an age when people get should alway say
Speaker 1: a little offended, a little easily.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know why I don't get offended
Speaker 2: more easily. It looks like fun. You know.
Speaker 1: People who get offended, they always have something to be
Speaker 1: upset about. They always feel righteous, they always feel this,
Speaker 1: you know, righteous anger.
Speaker 2: Like I'm offended, super offended.
Speaker 1: I just feel like I'm missing out because I don't
Speaker 1: get offended very easily, so I'll try harder. I guess
Speaker 1: this person mentions Blazing Saddles. Yeah, Blazing Saddles is truly
Speaker 1: one of the funniest movies I've ever seen. In fact,
Speaker 1: every now and again, I just want to say, excuse
Speaker 1: me while I whip this out. Okay, if you're young
Speaker 1: and you're tuning in, you're like, I.
Speaker 2: Don't get it.
Speaker 1: You got to watch Blazing Saddles unless you're one of
Speaker 1: the easily offended, and then it's probably not a film
Speaker 1: for you because it's satire. It's actually making fun of racism.
Speaker 1: But if you go into it like looking for racism
Speaker 1: and you don't realize that it's satire, it may not
Speaker 1: be the movie for you.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing.
Speaker 1: About satire is satire is really only for people who
Speaker 1: get satire. You know, I mentioned Death of Stalin one
Speaker 1: being one of the funniest movies I've seen in a while.
Speaker 1: You gotta get satire. You gotta love satire to love
Speaker 1: that movie. Otherwise it's not the film for you. And
Speaker 1: I love all comedy satire. I love stupid, stupid movies.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna really like Naked Gun because I
Speaker 1: like if it's stupid, I like it.
Speaker 2: Watch plenty of that on my.
Speaker 1: Smartphone, plenty of stupid little videos with people doing stupid things.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I like all kinds of humor.
Speaker 1: But you know, I get why it is it is
Speaker 1: difficult for studios to contemplate a serious, high budget comedy.
Speaker 1: When we get back, we're going to take a break.
Speaker 1: Let's swim on over into the deep.
Speaker 2: Side of the pool and talk about a couple of
Speaker 2: things for the next hour.
Speaker 1: Why the left keeps the American majority leaning right, why
Speaker 1: we should give Congressman gave Evans a little break, and
Speaker 1: why NPR should be defunded. And I say, this is
Speaker 1: somebody who's like an NPR junkie. I love NPR, but
Speaker 1: there's no reason they or for that matter. Call around
Speaker 1: a public radio or any of these public websites. At websites,
Speaker 1: radio stations or television shows should really get a dime
Speaker 1: of taxpayer funding, and they're primarily funded through private donations.
Speaker 2: But let's go all private. I think that's a little
Speaker 2: bit better.
Speaker 1: I say, this is somebody who's working for a competitor
Speaker 1: that comes.
Speaker 2: Up with all of its own money, and that would
Speaker 2: be eight p fifty k away. This is Chris A. Gaper.
Speaker 1: I'm sebbing in for Mandy Connell and you're listening to
Speaker 1: the best station ever.
Speaker 2: I turned one hundred years old.
Speaker 1: I believe fantastic getting the nod from Zach. Let's take
Speaker 1: a break. I'll be back in a jiff, and you're like,
Speaker 1: who the heck is that? Normally I am seen but
Speaker 1: not heard. That's because I'm a Denver Post columnist, although
Speaker 1: I do occasionally do radio or television. You can check
Speaker 1: me out on Channel twelve here in Denver. I'm on
Speaker 1: Colorado inside Out usually once a month, and I've got
Speaker 1: a sub stack. I've also got you. Get to check
Speaker 1: me out on Twitter at CHRISTA Kaefer. I posted the
Speaker 1: cutest thing. It was a whole bunch of bunnies, wild
Speaker 1: bunnies that jumped up on a trampoline and they're like
Speaker 1: jumping away. It's just really cute. So I, you know,
Speaker 1: I do some cute stuff on there. I do some
Speaker 1: serious stuff. I do some some fun stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: let's do social media. Check me out five six six
Speaker 1: nine zero. Also check out Carl's Canine Crew. It's the
Speaker 1: organization that I foster my dog through, and I just
Speaker 1: think they're super And if you lived.
Speaker 2: Within an hour of Colorado Springs, you can foster a dog.
Speaker 2: You certainly check them out their.
Speaker 1: Adoption at the dogs they have available for adoption, including
Speaker 1: the wonderful little picnics that I'm fostering right now.
Speaker 2: Who would love to find a loving family.
Speaker 1: So I did promise that I would wait on over
Speaker 1: to the deeper end of the pool.
Speaker 2: As I've been, I've.
Speaker 1: Been kind of keeping it on a little light, lighter
Speaker 1: weight topics. I did ask the super important question, you
Speaker 1: could flee the state and a stolen automobile with that automobile,
Speaker 1: And you know, that question is just going to stay
Speaker 1: open for the rest of the show, regardless of what
Speaker 1: we're talking about.
Speaker 2: Because I've gotten some great, great answers.
Speaker 1: At the Larean a nineteen ninety eight astro van.
Speaker 2: Oh, let's see VW Bus.
Speaker 1: And oh, here's one I like in nineteen seventy Pontiac
Speaker 1: trans Am white was blue interior with you in the
Speaker 1: passenger seat.
Speaker 2: Oh, I do like that. I got admit. I like
Speaker 2: muscle cars, always have, always will. And also a.
Speaker 1: Sixty four T Bird, a long, sleek, classy look and automobile.
Speaker 1: This person's favorite car of all time. And it was
Speaker 1: the first model car kit I built when I was
Speaker 1: a kid. Oh that's that's a great story, Steve, thanks
Speaker 1: for mentioning it. I mentioned I am going to wade
Speaker 1: over to some serious topics. And you know, Trump and
Speaker 1: Trump administration got a lot of heat. Congress got a
Speaker 1: lot of heat, mainly from the left, on the decision
Speaker 1: to rescind funding that had been set aside for the
Speaker 1: Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which funds NPR National Public Radio.
Speaker 2: It's local affiliates.
Speaker 1: Here in the you know here it's called out a
Speaker 1: public radio, a lot of real stations as well, plus PBS,
Speaker 1: and you know, as somebody who really loves Colorado public
Speaker 1: radio listens, I've donated, I've been on the program a
Speaker 1: number of times, so different programs on Call Out a
Speaker 1: public radio. Back when I lived in DC, I was
Speaker 1: on NPR a couple of times, which really, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do my NPR voice. It's funny because when you get
Speaker 1: interviewed by these folks, you immediately go into the voice.
Speaker 1: It's it's uncanny. You're just sitting there in the interview room,
Speaker 1: You're you're normally, you know, like me, it's you know.
Speaker 2: Talking away.
Speaker 1: The mic goes on and they say and welcome back
Speaker 1: to NPR, and then all of a sudden you're talking
Speaker 1: in that same cadence.
Speaker 2: It's very eerie.
Speaker 1: But yes, I I could do the NPR voice.
Speaker 2: Like ookos to do BBC voice if I want to,
Speaker 2: But you know.
Speaker 1: We're gonna stick to the talk show host and talk
Speaker 1: show host voice. Here's why I think it should be
Speaker 1: no longer publicly funded. And you know, truth be told,
Speaker 1: it's not all public funding. In fact, it's only a
Speaker 1: small amount. It's a bit more in the rural areas.
Speaker 1: But they spend a lot of time and a lot
Speaker 1: of work raising money from private contributors, from foundations.
Speaker 2: From companies.
Speaker 1: They raise a lot of their own money but they
Speaker 1: don't raise all of their money the way we do
Speaker 1: here at a fifty KOA. They get a little bit
Speaker 1: of a handout, and that handout comes from taxpayers.
Speaker 2: The point of my column.
Speaker 1: Was this is it's not fair to stations that have
Speaker 1: to fund their fund everything like KOA to know that
Speaker 1: a competing station is getting a handout.
Speaker 2: That's not fair, and it's also not fair to.
Speaker 1: Taxpayers, of which roughly half are conservative and NPR, CPR
Speaker 1: the other affiliates i've ever heard they're left leaning. Now,
Speaker 1: they don't always know they're left leaning. They're not trying
Speaker 1: to be left leaning. I think it's their worldview. Don't
Speaker 1: think there's a whole lot of conservatives around to say,
Speaker 1: you know, you could have put this a little different,
Speaker 1: could have been a little more neutral.
Speaker 2: There's no one around to call them on it.
Speaker 1: And you know, if you're in a place where everyone's
Speaker 1: right wing, there's going to be no one there to
Speaker 1: call anyone out on being right wing and maybe not
Speaker 1: seeing the left's perspective. I think the reason that NPR
Speaker 1: and its local affiliates are left leaning is because everyone
Speaker 1: that works there is left leaning. Their audience is more
Speaker 1: left leaning than not, and so there's no one out
Speaker 1: there to say, hey, you know, you could have done
Speaker 1: things a little differently, and you know, just because I
Speaker 1: think it's important to have examples, I provided some examples
Speaker 1: in my column stories I had heard on as NPR,
Speaker 1: and I listened to NPR every week because I'm one
Speaker 1: of those people that, like I said, I don't get
Speaker 1: offended very easily, and I'm a big believer in what
Speaker 1: my old Mike partner used to say, which is, you
Speaker 1: eat the meat, you throw away the bones.
Speaker 2: I can listen to just about anything.
Speaker 1: Keep what I think is valuable, toss out what I
Speaker 1: think is unvaluable. I see the left leaning, but I
Speaker 1: still like the programming, still like the people who do it,
Speaker 1: still learn a lot, But you know, toss out the
Speaker 1: stuff I don't agree with, and that's fine, I hope
Speaker 1: if you're tuning in now, you're bigeing the same thing
Speaker 1: like I like kfer On some stuff, other stuff not
Speaker 1: so much.
Speaker 2: Just toss those bones out the window.
Speaker 1: But it's everything from the examples they provide to the
Speaker 1: language that they use that is left leaning and therefore
Speaker 1: not fair to taxpayers on the right that are having
Speaker 1: to fund it. I don't want taxpayers on the left
Speaker 1: to fund any of the conservative stations or a station
Speaker 1: that's kind of in the middle like this one. I
Speaker 1: think that when you have to raise your own money,
Speaker 1: you're not going to coerce money out of people that.
Speaker 2: Don't agree with you. It's just not fair.
Speaker 1: And one of the examples I provided there was a
Speaker 1: story about these Trump accounts. Therefore, I guess you had
Speaker 1: a child within the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: You can get this account. There's some money in it,
Speaker 2: you can add to it, and I oppose it.
Speaker 1: I think it's we're already what thirty seven trillion dollars
Speaker 1: in debt. We don't need new programs, we don't need
Speaker 1: to be spending anything beyond weriorty spending, and then that's
Speaker 1: too much. I don't support the Trump accounts. I did
Speaker 1: not support the so called Big Beautiful Bill, which I
Speaker 1: think is the stupidest name for a bill.
Speaker 2: I didn't support it.
Speaker 1: That said, when they did the story about these accounts,
Speaker 1: they had a whole bunch of people way in and
Speaker 1: give their comments, and I listened to every single commenter.
Speaker 1: These were just ordinary people commenting on the Trump accounts.
Speaker 1: Every single one of them opposed the accounts. Well, that's
Speaker 1: just not good journalism. You don't just pick one side
Speaker 1: and feature it. I learned that in high school journalism class.
Speaker 1: Ideally they should have had half of those examples, or
Speaker 1: even a third. I mean, just so some examples of
Speaker 1: people saying, yeah, I love these accounts.
Speaker 2: I think they're a great idea. Fare's fair.
Speaker 1: You can't just feature your own side. And then there's
Speaker 1: the fact that they always, uh, you know, they I
Speaker 1: don't know, they seem to mischaracterize what Republicans think mischaracterized.
Speaker 1: You know, I think about Terry Gross always just sort
Speaker 1: of laughing about you know, oh those Republicans or oh
Speaker 1: those evangelicals, like you don't make fun of people like
Speaker 1: a large group of people. I think that's called prejudice,
Speaker 1: and maybe you had to avoid it. But yeah, I've
Speaker 1: heard pro lifers mischaracterized. And you know, I'm sure people
Speaker 1: will say, well, hey, right wing radio consistently mischaracterizes the left.
Speaker 1: Fox News mischaracterizes the left. Sure, yeah, that's is true,
Speaker 1: that is true. But I'm not forcing taxpayers on the
Speaker 1: left side of the political spec from to subsidize the
Speaker 1: show that I'm on. Right now, If you don't like
Speaker 1: Fox News, you don't like conservative radio. You don't have
Speaker 1: to listen, and you don't have to pay a dime
Speaker 1: towards it. That's my feelings on NPR. Maybe you've got
Speaker 1: a feeling on it as well.
Speaker 3: My uh.
Speaker 2: Tax foone here is five six six nine.
Speaker 1: Oh, let's see this person says a nineteen ninety six
Speaker 1: Chevy Hm. Yeah, okay, I like it. I like it,
Speaker 1: good afternoon. I feel the same way about NPR. This
Speaker 1: person text in.
Speaker 2: And let's see.
Speaker 1: Uh person amos is not apparently a fan of the
Speaker 1: of Mandy, probably not a fan of me as well.
Speaker 1: That says, I happen to turn it here because I
Speaker 1: usually watch and listen to Tom Martino. But find your
Speaker 1: voice calming. So I'm just hanging out and listening to you.
Speaker 2: Well, good job. Well thanks, maybe I should have thanks
Speaker 2: for saying that. Maybe I ought to.
Speaker 1: Have a jazz show and welcome back to smooth Jazz.
Speaker 2: You're listening to Chris de Kaefer and.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be listening to a little riff by trombone player.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I could do that. I could do that.
Speaker 1: Maybe some jazz station out there is looking for a
Speaker 1: voice with a calming, sweet voice.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 1: Another person said I should said more often. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is a I love the love that's coming in. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I guess to me what it comes down to it is,
Speaker 1: I just don't want people to have to subsidize stuff
Speaker 1: that they disagree with.
Speaker 2: And I know there is there's always going to be
Speaker 2: some of that.
Speaker 1: I mean, right now, my dollars are going to all
Speaker 1: kinds of things I don't agree with, especially here in Colorado.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to news, there really shouldn't be
Speaker 1: a government news station. It should all be independent news
Speaker 1: and commentary. If you like it, listen you don't like it,
Speaker 1: don't listen you don't like it, don't fund it you
Speaker 1: like it, fund it, fund the uh, you know, patronize
Speaker 1: the different businesses that contribute to eight fifty k away,
Speaker 1: or to call it out of public radio. Patronize those
Speaker 1: businesses you can donate. I've donated to call her out
Speaker 1: of public radio, even though I'm you know, I'm a
Speaker 1: person decidedly of the right, but I learn a lot
Speaker 1: enjoy the programming.
Speaker 2: I've got a good classical station as well.
Speaker 1: So I definitely think though that it's time to pull
Speaker 1: the plug and make these stations genuinely independent. And here's
Speaker 1: the deal. I think about some of the PBS channels,
Speaker 1: I have no doubt they can also survive without public funding.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a little tougher for like a
Speaker 1: Channel twelve, but they do great work.
Speaker 2: I think they can raise the money.
Speaker 1: And Channel six, that's the one that has you know,
Speaker 1: Sesame Street, which is you know, merchandise alone, probably could
Speaker 1: fund the whole thing. How many you know you could
Speaker 1: buy all kinds of Sesame Street merchandise and that all
Speaker 1: goes to that can all go to the television station
Speaker 1: that produces it. So I'm not afraid these things are
Speaker 1: going to go away overnight. I am glad, however, that
Speaker 1: we're moving to a more fair system.
Speaker 2: All this is sweet.
Speaker 1: You could you could absolutely do jazz. Glad to hear
Speaker 1: that you're filling in for Mandy, rooting for you.
Speaker 2: Today, and happy belated birthday, thanks Angela. I am that's
Speaker 2: a friend of mine. Yes, friends are allowed to text
Speaker 2: in here at five six six.
Speaker 1: And I know we're talking a little bit about defunding
Speaker 1: public radio and why that was such a controversy, but
Speaker 1: also the question is still out there if you were
Speaker 1: to flee the state and steal in car.
Speaker 2: What would it be? I absolutely love this answer.
Speaker 1: I'd leave the state in and ask to Martin Vintage
Speaker 1: twelve at one hundred and ninety five miles per hour.
Speaker 2: That's fast, you know. I took my old Mustang up
Speaker 2: to one hundred once.
Speaker 1: I know, like cou could have got it, could have
Speaker 1: gone faster, but I would have felt so bad if
Speaker 1: I had hurt somebody, So I tended to maximize the
Speaker 1: speed at lower speeds, like I would head out from
Speaker 1: the stop light and.
Speaker 2: Hit sixty and six seconds.
Speaker 1: But I didn't have a tendency to take it over
Speaker 1: like ninety five, justly because I thought, h what if
Speaker 1: I what if I hurt somebody by having a little
Speaker 1: too much fun behind behind the wheel.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 1: This person says, can you do the NPR voice for
Speaker 1: the Christmas treat?
Speaker 2: Everybody knows that comedy Shwitty Falls? Is it Alec Baldwin?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I definitely. I don't think I could do
Speaker 1: that comedy piece, but I absolutely love.
Speaker 2: That little skit.
Speaker 1: It's a Saturday Night Live skit about public radio that
Speaker 1: is quite fun. This person says, you have to pay
Speaker 1: a dime if you have cable or satellite TV. I stream.
Speaker 1: I guess I do pay for Amazon for those television shows.
Speaker 1: But if you're going to watch it, you like it,
Speaker 1: that's awesome, you should be paying for it. If you
Speaker 1: don't want to pay for it, you shouldn't have to
Speaker 1: pay for it. And I think that's true for public radio,
Speaker 1: public television. This person says, I know it's not public money,
Speaker 1: but do you think customers should have to subsidize Fox
Speaker 1: in their cable and satellite bills?
Speaker 2: You know, it's a package deal.
Speaker 1: If you get Fox, you're also getting CNN, You're also
Speaker 1: getting MSNBC.
Speaker 2: You're getting all of those channels, and you're already agreeing
Speaker 2: to that.
Speaker 1: When you sign up for cable. There's a reason I
Speaker 1: don't have cable have I just stream? I stream Saddle,
Speaker 1: I stream Amazon. And when a new version of Stranger Things,
Speaker 1: when the news the new season for that pops up
Speaker 1: on Netflix, I will subscribe to Netflix for a while
Speaker 1: till I burn through the stuff I want to watch,
Speaker 1: then I'll stop. And I actually think that is kind
Speaker 1: of the direction that we're headed. We are you know,
Speaker 1: people are very individualized in their entertainment. They have those
Speaker 1: options through podcasts, through radio stations, through things that they
Speaker 1: subscribe to on television, and kind of getting away from.
Speaker 2: Kind of big.
Speaker 1: Public packages where everybody gets the same thing.
Speaker 2: And it's strange for those.
Speaker 1: Of us who have been around for a while because
Speaker 1: I remember, and I know a number of you do.
Speaker 2: Do you do as well? Do you remember? You know
Speaker 2: in the seventies and eighties.
Speaker 1: We'll finish out this segment and move to something a
Speaker 1: little different for the next one. But you turned on TV,
Speaker 1: you had, you know, the three stations four, seven, and nine,
Speaker 1: you had twelve and six and channel two.
Speaker 2: What is that? It's math again?
Speaker 1: Two four seven, nine, six and twelve seven stations And
Speaker 1: we didn't have a remote control, so like you would
Speaker 1: get up and change the channel yourself, and that was it.
Speaker 1: And when the president was on, I mean most of
Speaker 1: those stations were running the president and whatever you were
Speaker 1: going to watch, like Dukes of Hazzard you didn't.
Speaker 2: Get to watch because the President was on.
Speaker 1: It was really interesting, but it was a public that,
Speaker 1: even though there were differences and opinion, it was a
Speaker 1: public that was sort of served.
Speaker 2: By the same institutions.
Speaker 1: Everyone watched kind of the same movies, listen to the
Speaker 1: same radio programs, watched the same channels, and yeah, there
Speaker 1: was a lot of content that really wasn't that good.
Speaker 1: I'm looking up at a screen right now and it's
Speaker 1: a daytime drama, which I didn't even know there were
Speaker 1: any of those left, But yeah, soap opera's.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like there was a lot of great stuff on, but.
Speaker 1: It had a kind of cultural homogenizing effect on the population.
Speaker 1: Now that we're moving into very individualized entertainment, I think
Speaker 1: we're going to see a kind of continuous fracturing. I
Speaker 1: don't think that that's all bad or all good. Got
Speaker 1: a lot of great variety out there, a lot of
Speaker 1: great stuff. We don't all have to watch the same thing.
Speaker 1: You can just watch what you want to watch. But
Speaker 1: we also miss some of that homogenizing that made American culture,
Speaker 1: and I kind of miss that.
Speaker 2: I gotta admit. This is Christaker.
Speaker 1: I'm setting in for Mandy Connell, and you are listening
Speaker 1: to eight fifty kowa.
Speaker 2: Your comments when we get back, and.
Speaker 1: We're talking a little bit about a column I wrote
Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago about why NPR NCPR, another public station, should.
Speaker 2: Not get any more tax payer money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I say, this is somebody who really enjoys their programming.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just not fair.
Speaker 1: It's not fair that folks on the right should have
Speaker 1: to fund something that is decidedly left. Got an interesting
Speaker 1: text at five six six, and I know this person
Speaker 1: said they got a good laugh out of me saying
Speaker 1: that Kowa was middle of the road. Well, I would
Speaker 1: say it's middle of the road in the sense that
Speaker 1: our newscasts are pretty neutral. Our talk show hosts are
Speaker 1: to the right for sure. You know, Ross, Mandy Me
Speaker 1: were definitely to the right. But if you tune in
Speaker 1: to Marty len in the morning, he's pretty neutral. And
Speaker 1: the you know, the folks that come in and give
Speaker 1: the updates on the hour, they're they're pretty neutral. It's
Speaker 1: those of us that are commentators that are to the right.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing about being a commentator. I'm a columnist.
Speaker 1: I do opinion, that's all I do. I don't occasionally,
Speaker 1: I mean, I may end up going back to writing
Speaker 1: wine reviews for Westward those were not political. I guess
Speaker 1: that's the closest I've come in a long time to
Speaker 1: actually writing a news story.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not a journalist. I'm a commentator. I write commentary,
Speaker 1: and so I can be as far left, far right, farceentriest.
Speaker 1: People start calling myself a farceentriest. I am kind of
Speaker 1: a center right gal, but I get to be very
Speaker 1: obvious and very open with my opinion, which is kind
Speaker 1: of fun. I just wish the folks over at Colorado
Speaker 1: Public Radio and NPR, all of.
Speaker 2: Whom are you know.
Speaker 1: They're very solid journalists on one side. They do, they
Speaker 1: work hard, they do really good programming.
Speaker 2: But they need to stop. They need to stop being
Speaker 2: so lefty.
Speaker 1: It's pretty alienating to a lot of folks on the right,
Speaker 1: and it's not fair to taxpayers. I don't want taxpayers
Speaker 1: on the left to pay for stuff on the right either.
Speaker 1: I think these things can be privatized, raise all of
Speaker 1: their own money.
Speaker 2: They already raise a lot of their own money as is.
Speaker 2: They can raise the rest of it.
Speaker 1: For sure, And it looks like, based on the fact
Speaker 1: that the money's been rescinded, that's exactly what they're going
Speaker 1: to have to do. One of the things that I
Speaker 1: asked at the top of the hour, actually the beginning
Speaker 1: of the show, little aside from politics, is if you
Speaker 1: could flee the state in a stolen car, what would
Speaker 1: it be? And this person said, a nineteen twenty seven
Speaker 1: Ammial car amilcar G sorry CGSS convertible with me in
Speaker 1: the passenger seat. And I guess this is the game
Speaker 1: Cock doc is who this person goes by, And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to look up that kind of car. I love.
Speaker 1: I just love old cars. I think they are a
Speaker 1: lot of fun and it is I'm not a big
Speaker 1: fan of breaking the law, but if I was going
Speaker 1: to flee the state and is still in car, it
Speaker 1: would definitely have to be a Chevy Chavelle Malibu convertible
Speaker 1: blue with white interior, And.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just sounds like a fun thing to think about.
Speaker 1: Let's see, this person says Corrado of Morning News is
Speaker 1: very liberal, especially Marty can't tell with Gina.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't. I do know Marty a bit.
Speaker 1: I think he's a great he just does a great
Speaker 1: job on the air, and he's just a really neat
Speaker 1: guy too.
Speaker 2: But I've heard that allegation before.
Speaker 1: I do feel like it's it's still very much worth
Speaker 1: listening to, regardless of if you think whether these folks
Speaker 1: lean one way or the other. But I definitely learn
Speaker 1: a lot. When I tune in in the morning, I
Speaker 1: see this person says, I read your stuff all the time.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed even when I disagree with you, not too often.
Speaker 1: And you do have a great voice. That is a
Speaker 1: very nice thing to say.
Speaker 2: And it is fun. It's fun to be on the air.
Speaker 1: It's interesting. So I write for the Denver Post, which
Speaker 1: is a left leaning paper, and so most of the
Speaker 1: people that read me are to the left of me,
Speaker 1: not all. And the number one thing that people say
Speaker 1: when they recognize me in public is, hey, love your column.
Speaker 1: Don't always agree with you, or don't often agree with you,
Speaker 1: or almost never agree with you, but I love your column,
Speaker 1: and it's always it's always quite quite gratifying. This person
Speaker 1: said the government only funded NPR two to three percent.
Speaker 1: If donors want to give their money to support radio stations,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with that? I yeah, I think for the
Speaker 1: other ninety percent, it's great, and it is true.
Speaker 2: NPR is not it's only.
Speaker 1: It's just a relatively small percentage of their budget. I
Speaker 1: think all of their budget should be privately raised from businesses, foundations,
Speaker 1: and from and I've been one of those doners.
Speaker 2: On occasion. I think the quality, I love the quality.
Speaker 1: I learn a lot, but I also recognize that it
Speaker 1: is left leaning, and it's everything from the language that
Speaker 1: they use. I mean, if you're going to say undocumented immigrant, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have my passport on me right now,
Speaker 1: and I guess I'm undocumented. I mean, why not say
Speaker 1: person living in the country illegally. That's a neutral way
Speaker 1: to put it. You say undocumented, it sounds like a euphemism,
Speaker 1: like the only thing that.
Speaker 2: They just forgot their paperwork. They didn't. They didn't forget
Speaker 2: their paperwork.
Speaker 1: They came over the border and are staying here without authorization.
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that they can't be awesome people, great workers.
Speaker 1: I've known people working in this country illegally that was
Speaker 1: super people. I've known Americans who have gone abroad and
Speaker 1: worked illegally, super people, but what they did was illegal.
Speaker 1: So I think, why not just say person living in
Speaker 1: the USA illegally or working in the US illegally. It's
Speaker 1: neutral or by the worst euphemism I've heard yet, I'll.
Speaker 2: Just give two examples.
Speaker 1: Uh, sex assigned at birth, like it's some arbitrary thing.
Speaker 1: I saw my niece get born which is an awesome experience.
Speaker 1: And it's not like when she you know, came out,
Speaker 1: doctors picked her up and they were like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe we should go with girl boy. Flip a coin.
Speaker 1: Let's assign. Let's assign, assign this baby as sex. You know,
Speaker 1: what do you what do you think? No, it was
Speaker 1: pretty darn obvious she was a girl, and she got
Speaker 1: she was listed as a girl, not because some doctor
Speaker 1: arbitrarily picked one or the other, but because biologically she
Speaker 1: is female. And that is that is the case for
Speaker 1: the vast majority of births. It's not some arbitrary decision
Speaker 1: by parents and the doctor to be like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you want a boy, you want a girl?
Speaker 2: What do you want to do? Let's assign something.
Speaker 1: No, the person and the doctor, the parents looked at
Speaker 1: the baby, and in the vast majority of cases, it's
Speaker 1: pretty obvious boy or girl, right there are a hand
Speaker 1: you know, occasionally somebody is born intersex, which means that
Speaker 1: they have X Y chromosomes but may have been due
Speaker 1: to developmental issues born without male organs. Usually those babies
Speaker 1: are girls and will grow up to be women. It is,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's a genetic anomaly. At some
Speaker 1: point during development, baby gets hormones, baby developed parts. Some
Speaker 1: babies are resistant to their own hormones and they don't
Speaker 1: develop the parts. Those are the people for which there
Speaker 1: is some ambiguity, and you know, it's difficult.
Speaker 2: It's a difficult situation.
Speaker 1: But the vast majority of people are born male or female.
Speaker 2: They're not a sign find a sex at birth. That's absurd.
Speaker 1: The other euphemism I don't care for that I hear
Speaker 1: on public radio is reproductive rights. Everyone has quote unquote
Speaker 1: reproductive rights. You want to make a baby and you're
Speaker 1: a fertile age, you can make a baby.
Speaker 2: You don't want to make a baby, you can use
Speaker 2: birth control.
Speaker 1: I don't have reproductive freedom now because I'm in metopause.
Speaker 1: I'm not free to have a kid. I guess I
Speaker 1: could do. You know, some kind of hear much older
Speaker 1: women having babies because they do artificial insemination, and I
Speaker 1: guess it is technically possible, but I guess I lost
Speaker 1: my reproductive freedom when I turned forty five.
Speaker 2: But it's an absurd thing.
Speaker 1: What they're referring to is the so called right to
Speaker 1: take the life of an unborn child.
Speaker 2: That's not reproductive rights.
Speaker 1: That that's abortion, and you know you could be for it,
Speaker 1: you can be against it.
Speaker 2: But let's just leave the e amism's aside.
Speaker 1: And I guess if I were to advise public radio, Hey,
Speaker 1: you want to do a bit of job not alienating
Speaker 1: your funders your listeners. Pick some neutral language. Stop picking
Speaker 1: terms that only the left will love. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: a couple other awesome cars to feel to flee the
Speaker 1: state with. If you're thinking about fleeing the state in
Speaker 1: a stolen car, I would. I'm not recommending it, and
Speaker 1: I'm not recommending you steal a car. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I was going to leave the leave the state in
Speaker 1: a a in a still in vehicle. This person says
Speaker 1: they would flee the state on their own two thousand
Speaker 1: and six.
Speaker 2: Harley Davidson, Electra.
Speaker 1: Glide, M I like it, And uh yeah, we'll hit
Speaker 1: a couple of more of those when we get back
Speaker 1: from this break. Also, let's we might just milk this
Speaker 1: topick a little bit longer. But I'm also thinking, hey,
Speaker 1: why not talk about why we should give Congressman Gabe
Speaker 1: Evans a break.
Speaker 2: I'd like to give him a break. I'll see what
Speaker 2: you think this is Christa k Fir.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in for Ko, sitting in for Mandy Connell.
Speaker 1: You're listening to a fifty koa folks would flee with
Speaker 1: if they had a chance to steal.
Speaker 2: A car and flee the state.
Speaker 1: Not that I'm recommending it, but this person said, a
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty seven Chevy.
Speaker 2: Two door hardtop red with cream top. I like it.
Speaker 1: This person says, a Lamborghini or any car that goes
Speaker 1: five miles faster, five miles power faster than the state
Speaker 1: patrol practical, I like it. So a couple of folks
Speaker 1: that brought up an interesting story that just popped up
Speaker 1: on the Denver Post, and.
Speaker 2: Over the break, I was reading.
Speaker 1: Up about it just so I could give comment no doubt,
Speaker 1: like you, you may have been in the dark. Luckily,
Speaker 1: a person listener texted me a link was able to
Speaker 1: check it out, and then another person wrote in saying,
Speaker 1: what do you think of the Denver Post docsing do better, Denver,
Speaker 1: so do better, Denver's interests, do better?
Speaker 2: Denvers on Twitter do better? And then d NVR and
Speaker 2: what they do is.
Speaker 1: They post pictures of people just being nasty around Denver
Speaker 1: homeless camps, people doing drugs, fighting, you know, drugged out.
Speaker 2: They post these.
Speaker 1: Things also, I guess things that are critical of the mayor.
Speaker 1: Denver post Shelby Bradberry got a put together story kind
Speaker 1: of talking about who these folks are. I guess one
Speaker 1: of them is, let's see a mother in Arizona, former
Speaker 1: Colorado Coalition for the Homeless, employee who lives in New Mexico,
Speaker 1: and a local public school teacher among the people involved
Speaker 1: with Do Better Denver, a controversial social media account that
Speaker 1: stokes outrage online by featuring images of homeless people, public
Speaker 1: drug use, and crime in Denver. And it goes on
Speaker 1: to talk about why this isn't journalism, why it's just
Speaker 1: stoking outrage, why it's selective and doesn't have the accountability
Speaker 1: of a newspaper. And I would say to that, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a social media it's not billing itself as a newspaper.
Speaker 1: It is being influential in showing that there's some pretty
Speaker 1: lame things happening around Denver.
Speaker 2: And I think all of us have.
Speaker 1: Seen it, right, I remember I got to see I
Speaker 1: guess this person was having a pants free moment, A
Speaker 1: dude on drugs who just happened to emerge from his
Speaker 1: tent without any pants on, and yeah, I got to
Speaker 1: see that. I'm just I guess glad he didn't turn around,
Speaker 1: because I would have seen even more stuff I didn't
Speaker 1: want to see, and I don't appreciate that.
Speaker 2: I went to Starbucks the other day and went in.
Speaker 1: To get a to get a a frappuccino, and the
Speaker 1: door was locked, and somebody came and let me in. Well,
Speaker 1: it turns out it was because a vagrant. And I'm
Speaker 1: not going to use the NPR term unhoused. This guy's
Speaker 1: problems did not have to do with the fact that
Speaker 1: he couldn't afford mortgage. He was on drugs, he was
Speaker 1: attacking customers. He did not attack me. When I saw
Speaker 1: him sitting there. He was having a full on conversation
Speaker 1: with about five people who didn't exist. And when the
Speaker 1: Starbucks manager called the police and said there's a vagrant
Speaker 1: who was attacking customers, all the police could say because
Speaker 1: they're busy, and I get that, but they said, well,
Speaker 1: just lock the doors and try to keep your customers safe.
Speaker 1: We'll get there when we get there, and they didn't
Speaker 1: get there while I was there. Meanwhile, there is this
Speaker 1: person who is obviously on drugs, obviously dangerous. So I
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with people revealing this stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: this is a website revealing lawlessness, nobody's nobody has comments
Speaker 1: of different experts at journalism schools of why this isn't
Speaker 1: real journalism, it's not meant to be.
Speaker 2: It's an influential social.
Speaker 1: Media site revealing the dark side of Denver. I don't
Speaker 1: have a problem with it, Nor do I have a
Speaker 1: problem with the fact that the Denver Post investigated a
Speaker 1: popular social media site and went on to talk about
Speaker 1: some of the folks that administer it. Apparently they've all
Speaker 1: denied being the administrators of the anonymps account.
Speaker 2: So maybe they are, maybe they aren't. But you know,
Speaker 2: I guess I don't have a.
Speaker 1: Problem with what they do, and I don't have a
Speaker 1: problem with the Denver Post reporting about what they do.
Speaker 1: I will say that it is a problem that we
Speaker 1: have people using drugs publicly, people being naked publicly, people
Speaker 1: doing things like I sometimes have you had to see
Speaker 1: people either carnally involved, my poor sweet niece had to
Speaker 1: see that, or people in various states of undress. I've
Speaker 1: seen people peeing, I've seen people doing other things, and
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have to see that. Honestly, I think these folks,
Speaker 1: a lot of them, need to be in an institution.
Speaker 2: Where they can get better.
Speaker 1: And I definitely agree with the Trump administration's executive order
Speaker 1: encouraging that there are people who are mentally ill, people
Speaker 1: who are savagely addicted to substances, who are doing things
Speaker 1: in public that the rest of us.
Speaker 2: That what I have to deal with.
Speaker 1: And so no, I don't have a problem with a
Speaker 1: social media site that is.
Speaker 2: Revealing the dark side of Denver. When we get back,
Speaker 2: let's talk a little bit about the.
Speaker 1: Kind of hot water that Gabe Evans got in why think,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's not as hot as it was characterized,
Speaker 1: and also how the left keeps the American majority leaning right.
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, you're doing a great job. This is Christy
Speaker 1: Kaye for sitting in for Mandy Connell. You're listening to
Speaker 1: eight fifty k away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just if you're just tuning in, You're like,
Speaker 2: who the heck is that.
Speaker 1: I'm normally a Denver Post columnist, although I do sub
Speaker 1: here on the area there for Ross or Mandy, and then.
Speaker 2: I'm on Channel twelve Colorado Inside Out.
Speaker 1: It's a nice little like half hour program that comes
Speaker 1: on on Channel twelve Friday nights, So I guess, I
Speaker 1: guess that'd be today at eight o'clock and I'm not
Speaker 1: on this week.
Speaker 2: But it's just it's a nice program.
Speaker 1: It's different people in the media talking about current events.
Speaker 1: And yeah, Kyle Dyer, she's fantastic formerly with Channel nine,
Speaker 1: is the host and just a great gal. So you know,
Speaker 1: ten in check it out. You can also check it
Speaker 1: out online. Just watch it on your cell phone if
Speaker 1: you want to, which is usually the way. I don't
Speaker 1: even know if I could get Channel twelve on my television.
Speaker 2: I watched it on my cell phone, So there you go.
Speaker 2: I said, I was going to move to a different topic.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give a little tease, a little snippet
Speaker 1: of my column that you can check on Sunday, and
Speaker 1: then turn back to the issue we were talking about,
Speaker 1: just because over the break a lot of interesting texts
Speaker 1: came in and I thought, I can't leave this.
Speaker 2: I can't leave this particular topic.
Speaker 1: Talking about the do Better Denver doxing, which is kind
Speaker 1: of interesting. And then we'll talk about one of the
Speaker 1: dumbest things I think the far left has done recently
Speaker 1: and why their antics tend to make people want to
Speaker 1: move to the right.
Speaker 2: So we'll hit that, but fuzzle first a little little.
Speaker 1: Teas for my column on this Sunday, and that is
Speaker 1: the congressman gave. Evans caught a lot of heat earlier
Speaker 1: this week when it turns out that the story he'd
Speaker 1: been telling about his grandfather was not altogether true. Colorado
Speaker 1: news Line, a lefty website, found out that he had
Speaker 1: missed some things about his grandfather's story. So when he
Speaker 1: would talk about his grandfather coming to this country and
Speaker 1: doing it the right way, doing it legally, yes, he
Speaker 1: was legalized, but before he became a citizen, he actually
Speaker 1: crossed the border as a young child illegally, and you know.
Speaker 2: Just got the left with like, yeah, he's lying, he's lying.
Speaker 2: How do you know he just wasn't mistaken.
Speaker 1: And that is the whole point of my column, which is,
Speaker 1: sometimes we believe things about our families that simply aren't true.
Speaker 2: I was under the.
Speaker 1: Impression that my family, for example, had never owned slaves.
Speaker 2: My side of the family came here pretty recently.
Speaker 1: My mom's side of the family most of them emigrated
Speaker 1: to Pennsylvania, which is an early state to make slavery illegal.
Speaker 2: I had a.
Speaker 1: Particular relative, a great great great something grandpa that was captured,
Speaker 1: was fighting for the North, captured by the South, spent
Speaker 1: time in Andersonville, one of the worst prison camps of
Speaker 1: the South. And so it's just kind of under the
Speaker 1: impression that, yeah, we never owned slaves. Well, as it
Speaker 1: turned out, my cousin did a little research, and yeah,
Speaker 1: go back far enough, we have a both a slave
Speaker 1: owner and a slave in the family.
Speaker 2: Because the slave owner had a.
Speaker 1: Child with one of the slaves, and that would be
Speaker 1: my great great great great great grandpa.
Speaker 2: And so there you go. Something I didn't know, I
Speaker 2: now know.
Speaker 1: So you'll never hear me say the words my family
Speaker 1: never owned slaves. In fact, if you go back, probably
Speaker 1: all of our families did, because every society, every pre
Speaker 1: Christian society, had slavery in it. People were captured in war,
Speaker 1: they were kept as slaves. It is an abhorrent practice,
Speaker 1: something done through the ages. Very happy to say that
Speaker 1: it's not being done legally anywhere in the world today.
Speaker 1: And what made it particularly egregious here in this country
Speaker 1: is that we talked a lot about freedom, put a
Speaker 1: lot of it into our Declaration of Independence, into our constitution,
Speaker 1: and yet enslaved a large group of citizens. And well,
Speaker 1: they weren't given citizenship, they weren't considered citizens. But the
Speaker 1: treatment of other human beings of black Americans, both during
Speaker 1: the time of slavery and during the time of segregation
Speaker 1: is abhorrent, especially for a country that holds up as
Speaker 1: one of its founding values. Now that said, I'm circling
Speaker 1: back to Congressman Gabe Evans. I'm gonna give him the
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt that he didn't know and he
Speaker 1: hasn't actually said it since, so I think once he
Speaker 1: found out, he stopped saying it. And every single one
Speaker 1: of us he's probably thought one thing or another about
Speaker 1: our extended family, got it wrong, found up different, decided
Speaker 1: to you know, learn, you live and learn right, you
Speaker 1: live and learn. So that's that's what my Denver Post
Speaker 1: column is about this Sunday, and I recommend it, but
Speaker 1: of course why would I not recommend it.
Speaker 2: It's my column. I do want to return to the.
Speaker 1: Denver Post, though, and this do better Denver social media site.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a Twitter site, or if
Speaker 1: it is uh Instagram, maybe it's both. I'm not cool
Speaker 1: enough for Instagram safe to say.
Speaker 2: Somebody just texted in, said.
Speaker 1: The big uproar over the Shelley Bradberry Denver post piece
Speaker 1: is the quote unquote doxing of the three contributors to
Speaker 1: Do Better Denver, as originally warned by Do Better Denver.
Speaker 1: It looks like brad Bury did speak to the three, However,
Speaker 1: it is not clear whether those three gave permission to
Speaker 1: release their names if it is possible via the law
Speaker 1: to withhold names, since they filled CORER requests.
Speaker 2: Regardless of what's.
Speaker 1: Legal, was it the right thing to do to dox
Speaker 1: these three people? And one of the listeners did send
Speaker 1: over the article a link to the article the articles
Speaker 1: who is Do Better Denver?
Speaker 2: Meet?
Speaker 1: Three women feeding information to Denver's loudest social media critic.
Speaker 2: Two of the.
Speaker 1: People connected to Do Better Denver live outside Colorado. All
Speaker 1: three deny being administrators of the anonymous account. Goes on
Speaker 1: to describe the account as showing the dark side of Denver,
Speaker 1: people behaving badly, either in a drunken or drugs stupor
Speaker 1: vagrance camps with people passed out, trash here's something on fire.
Speaker 2: People just it is.
Speaker 1: It's the dark and sad side of Denver. The article
Speaker 1: goes on to say that it has something like one
Speaker 1: hundred and forty four thousand followers across Instagram and Twitter,
Speaker 1: and that it's, you know, violates the norms of what
Speaker 1: would be considered a good journalism. Well, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's actually trying. And here's where I would disagree with
Speaker 1: the writer of the article is that it's not trying
Speaker 1: to be journalistic. It's a social media influencer. It's showing
Speaker 1: the dark side of Denver. It's showing that we have
Speaker 1: to as hard working Denver rights or people who live
Speaker 1: in the Denver metro these are the kinds of things
Speaker 1: we have to contect with thanks to some of the
Speaker 1: policies that enable this behavior. As for do I think
Speaker 1: it's okay to reveal the names of the women behind
Speaker 1: Do Better Denver? I will save that answer. We've got
Speaker 1: a quick break. When we get back, I will I'll
Speaker 1: mention what I think and also hit your text at
Speaker 1: five six six. And I know this is Christa Kafer.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in for Mandy Connell.
Speaker 3: You're listening to eight fifty koa bru.
Speaker 1: I don't know about the do Better Denver piece in
Speaker 1: the Denver Post.
Speaker 2: Talking a little bit about.
Speaker 1: Journalism in general, I mentioned a story written by Colorado
Speaker 1: Newsline about Gabe Evans and the fact that he was
Speaker 1: wrong about some points or left out some points about
Speaker 1: his grandfather story. His grandfather emigrated here from Mexico, came
Speaker 1: as a young child, was later legalized. And this person says, hey,
Speaker 1: you know James Woodruff, He's the one that wrote the story.
Speaker 2: Did the Gabe Evans story with contempt?
Speaker 1: Well, of course it's the partisan press, right, So Colorado
Speaker 1: News Line is a left, pretty far left leaning investigative
Speaker 1: news outlet.
Speaker 2: That's what they do.
Speaker 1: They go after Republicans kind of like if you go
Speaker 1: over to Complete Colorado and look at some of the
Speaker 1: great journalism there, and very trustworthy, good journalism, but it's
Speaker 1: on the right.
Speaker 2: I happen to think that we need all of we
Speaker 2: need all of this.
Speaker 1: We actually, you know, politicians don't keep themselves accountable.
Speaker 2: You have to have.
Speaker 1: Different journalistic outlets who are able to look at things
Speaker 1: and investigate things.
Speaker 2: And yeah, do I think.
Speaker 1: They should have given Gabe Evans the benefit of the
Speaker 1: day out that he just didn't know.
Speaker 2: About his family's past.
Speaker 1: Yes, would I expect them to give him any grace?
Speaker 2: No, they're a far left newspaper.
Speaker 1: They do some fine investigative work, but don't expect any
Speaker 1: grace for Republicans in the same way. Pop on over
Speaker 1: to Fox News and see if you find any grace
Speaker 1: for Democrats.
Speaker 2: Don't think you're going to find any there.
Speaker 1: Still, they do some valuable investigatory work, and as somebody
Speaker 1: who reads both, I.
Speaker 2: Appreciate what I get there.
Speaker 1: That said, my Denver Post column this Sunday is about
Speaker 1: why we should cut gabevs and some slack. We don't
Speaker 1: always know everything about our families, and we find out
Speaker 1: and then it changes our personal narrative.
Speaker 2: It's just the way it is. This person says, no,
Speaker 2: wonder you defended the piece about do Better Denver. I
Speaker 2: support journalism. I support I don't.
Speaker 1: I just heard about Denver Better or do Better Denver.
Speaker 2: I just heard about it, and I guess I support
Speaker 2: what they do.
Speaker 1: They're revealing a dark side of Denver, side of Denver
Speaker 1: that should be revealed.
Speaker 2: A lot of us have seen it.
Speaker 1: We've had to see people in various states of undress,
Speaker 1: people who are clearly on drugs.
Speaker 2: And I got to say this, if.
Speaker 1: You're giving money to beggars on the side of the street,
Speaker 1: it's kind of your fault they're there.
Speaker 2: If they weren't.
Speaker 1: Getting that money, that free money, that free food, those
Speaker 1: folks would have.
Speaker 2: To go to a rehab center.
Speaker 1: And there are a number of places that'll take them
Speaker 1: in Denver Rescue with one of them, they'd have to
Speaker 1: go over there, get some help, get sober, get a job,
Speaker 1: And as long as they're getting your free pocket change,
Speaker 1: they're not going to have to do that. So you
Speaker 1: want someone to blame for the dark side of Denver,
Speaker 1: that's kind of who I blame people who give them money,
Speaker 1: you know. And the fact that they get some government
Speaker 1: handouts too, is it's not good. I appreciate the administration
Speaker 1: most recent executive order encouraging these folks, encouraging states to
Speaker 1: commit some of these folks to involuntary.
Speaker 2: Institute his institution. Can I say this word or not
Speaker 2: it is Friday.
Speaker 1: Commit these folks to institutions where they can get the
Speaker 1: help they need. I can guarantee the guy that was
Speaker 1: having a full on conversation with five people who weren't
Speaker 1: there that I saw at star that I saw at Starbucks,
Speaker 1: I can guarantee that guy's problem isn't that he's quote
Speaker 1: unquote unhoused. He was on drugs and probably as a
Speaker 1: mental illness and should be somewhere where he can get help.
Speaker 1: And simply putting these folks up in a free hotel
Speaker 1: room isn't getting them the.
Speaker 2: Help they need. And we have to.
Speaker 1: See these folks, you know, in a variety. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I had to see a guy that was having a
Speaker 1: pants free moment. I just thank my lucky stars he
Speaker 1: did not turn around.
Speaker 2: Last thing I.
Speaker 1: Need to see is the front side. It was bad enough,
Speaker 1: I got to see the back. Another person text in.
Speaker 1: I wonder if the mayor was involved in influencing the
Speaker 1: Denver Posts to do this. There are rumors he asked
Speaker 1: the Denver Posts to investigate. Do better, Denver. You know,
Speaker 1: I can't say one way or the other. I will
Speaker 1: say that Denver Post has every right to investigate an
Speaker 1: influential media influencer, and they did that investigation found that
Speaker 1: some of those folks don't live here in Colorado, and
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that either.
Speaker 2: Denver should do better.
Speaker 1: We have people with no pants on who are believing
Speaker 1: themselves in the middle of the street.
Speaker 2: As one text let me know that they had to
Speaker 2: see that.
Speaker 1: I don't consider it doxing, and I said, I would
Speaker 1: answer that question, is it fair to dox them?
Speaker 2: I don't think I wouldn't call it doxing.
Speaker 1: I would say that they gave their names, it didn't
Speaker 1: give their address. In my mind, doxing is the giving
Speaker 1: of addresses so that bad people can, you know, threaten them.
Speaker 2: I've gotten death threats. I know what that's like.
Speaker 1: I don't want anyone to know my address, and I
Speaker 1: would be very angry if a newspaper, website, et cetera
Speaker 1: let people know where I lived, as it would put
Speaker 1: me in harm's way. The Denver Post piece did not
Speaker 1: do that, simply commented on the people who are behind
Speaker 1: the anonymous social influencing social media accounts. I thinks that
Speaker 1: what they're doing is a service getting this information out.
Speaker 1: I also think the article from the Denver Post provides
Speaker 1: a service lets us know who these people are.
Speaker 2: So I guess you could say I support both.
Speaker 1: Let's see this person says, these newspapers sure like to
Speaker 1: dogs people unnecessarily a couple decades ago, the now defunct
Speaker 1: Rocky Mountain News published an online searchable database of state
Speaker 1: employee salaries. We knew our salaries were public knowledge, but
Speaker 1: that was uncalled for.
Speaker 2: It made our job as managers really tough.
Speaker 1: Explaining why certain employees were paid at different rates had
Speaker 1: to do with the timing of employment dates and years
Speaker 1: of service.
Speaker 2: What a nightmare.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see why that would be a nightmare. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's certain things that if you know them, they don't
Speaker 1: necessarily need to be public. If they are public, then
Speaker 1: people you know, whether it's salary information, whether it is
Speaker 1: people's home addresses.
Speaker 2: There are simply things that do not need to be
Speaker 2: made public. And I don't think we should know the
Speaker 2: addresses of people, but names. I think that that was
Speaker 2: probably okay.
Speaker 1: Disagree with me if you would like five six, six,
Speaker 1: and I know I'd.
Speaker 2: Love to hear what you think.
Speaker 1: Also, before we hit our next brave, we got a
Speaker 1: little longer segment here. Want to give little shout out
Speaker 1: to the left for helping the nation move right now
Speaker 1: and again the far left does something that makes me
Speaker 1: roll my eyes so hard I could actually get like
Speaker 1: an eye injury. And this week you know, I'm doing
Speaker 1: a little show prep this morning, and I thought, what
Speaker 1: what can I talk about that I can winge about
Speaker 1: that's not super heavy? Something something really stupid that somebody
Speaker 1: has done. And lo and behold, the Far Left reveals
Speaker 1: it and here's here it is. So there's an actress.
Speaker 1: I guess she was in a show called Euphoria. My
Speaker 1: sister really liked that show named Sidney Sweeney. She's she's pretty,
Speaker 1: She's a pretty gal. She's got a kind of a
Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe figure. And she did some commercials for American
Speaker 1: Eagle Jeans in which she jokes about having good genes
Speaker 1: good jeans as in jeans the clothing, but also good
Speaker 1: jeans in terms of her genetic makeup, which gives her
Speaker 1: the beautiful face and figure.
Speaker 2: That she has. It was cute. It was a little
Speaker 2: kind of.
Speaker 1: Riff on a word. It's just jeans, you know, things
Speaker 1: you wear. And I guess the Far Left went nuts.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, so I stubbed.
Speaker 2: Is it ever a break? Oh?
Speaker 1: I you know what I didn't realize I had. Huh,
Speaker 1: I had a break and then a break. Okay, forgive me.
Speaker 1: I am the fillin host after all. And it is Friday,
Speaker 1: and I didn't get a lot of sleep. There's my excuse.
Speaker 1: We'll talk a little more about that subject, plus continuing
Speaker 1: thoughts on do you Better Denver when we get back
Speaker 1: from this break. Hey, thanks for listening.
Speaker 2: I know it's you tune in to hear your host.
Speaker 1: And there's another voice so off, one about journalism. Gave
Speaker 1: Evans's story do Denver do better? Denver story? What the
Speaker 1: Denver Post did? Was it doxing?
Speaker 2: And I need to correct I misspoke.
Speaker 1: I was reading what a texture had put in about
Speaker 1: wondering if the mayor was involved in influencing the Denver
Speaker 1: Post to do it do this. Also said there there
Speaker 1: are rumors he asked the Denver Police Department, not the
Speaker 1: Denver Post, but DPD, not just dp Yes, Kayfer, put
Speaker 1: your glasses on to investigate.
Speaker 2: Do better Denver? I don't know. I can't speak to
Speaker 2: that rumor.
Speaker 1: Another person says, hey, it is doxing because they are
Speaker 1: non public figures.
Speaker 2: And another person said.
Speaker 1: Hey, once you know the names, you can certainly look
Speaker 1: up the addresses and that makes them a target.
Speaker 2: Hey, I think that's fair. I think that's fair.
Speaker 1: And there may be some who knows some kind of
Speaker 1: legal consequences, as another person predicts, you know what, I
Speaker 1: think looking at people who are behind a particular social
Speaker 1: media campaign is fair game for journalists. So I will
Speaker 1: defend both Do Better Denver, which highlights the dark side
Speaker 1: of Denver, as well as the Denver Post. We're talking
Speaker 1: about what, you know, who's behind it. I think that's
Speaker 1: that's all fair. But I I take the disagreements, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that's fair too. I'm also talking about what
Speaker 1: what sort of stupid thing? You know. I wanted to
Speaker 1: find at least one stupid thing to harp on something
Speaker 1: stupid that the left has done that you know, keeps
Speaker 1: the American public moving right and lo and behold, I
Speaker 1: did happen to find it.
Speaker 2: It's actually low hanging fruit, and that is.
Speaker 1: There was an ad This is for Eagle American Eagle genes.
Speaker 1: This very pretty actress, her name is Sydney Sweeney. She
Speaker 1: did a little kind of you know, a little riff
Speaker 1: in the commercial about having good jeans, good jeans as
Speaker 1: in the American Eagle jeens, the fabric, the the you know,
Speaker 1: the pants she was wearing, as well as having good jeans,
Speaker 1: which you know, she's quite beautiful, so clearly she has
Speaker 1: pretty good jeens. Well, so the far left decides that
Speaker 1: the ad is racist because it's saying that blonde, blue eyed, yeah,
Speaker 1: the blonde, blue eyed white woman. Somehow having her in
Speaker 1: the commercial quote sends a message that certain types of
Speaker 1: heritage are better than others.
Speaker 2: I don't see that. I think it was just a cute.
Speaker 1: Little ad about you know, pretty actress who says, yeah,
Speaker 1: can I say I've got good jeans, jeans that she's
Speaker 1: wearing jeans that make her beautiful. I don't think it
Speaker 1: means that other kinds of beauty are inferior, are less
Speaker 1: than the kind of beauty embodied by this particular actress. Well,
Speaker 1: when the left gets itself into a tizzy over something
Speaker 1: like this, starts pointing their finger and saying, oh, but.
Speaker 2: It's just so racist.
Speaker 1: You can't have a blonde actress advocating for genes and
Speaker 1: using a double entendre for genes. It causes the American
Speaker 1: public to go, say, what, really, it's a commercial about genes.
Speaker 1: And I tend to agree with somebody quoted in this
Speaker 1: article saying, well that when they flip out like that,
Speaker 1: it encourages people to vote for people like Trump, and
Speaker 1: I tend to think that that's true as well. When
Speaker 1: you overreact and say really silly things like calling everyone racist,
Speaker 1: it tends to make people will go, well, hey, if
Speaker 1: that's what you think, I am fine, here's how.
Speaker 2: I'm going to vote.
Speaker 1: And I have to say that I appreciate some of
Speaker 1: the cultural correction that has taken place under this administration.
Speaker 1: I have both good and bad things to say about
Speaker 1: the current administration.
Speaker 2: I'll spare you the bad and simply stick.
Speaker 1: With the good for the remaining a few minutes of
Speaker 1: the show, And one of them is I'm glad that
Speaker 1: we are making a cultural correction on a number of points. No,
Speaker 1: boys should not be using the girl's bathroom. No men
Speaker 1: should not be competing against women in women's sports.
Speaker 2: Thank you Trump administration.
Speaker 1: Administration, Thank you President Donald Trump for pushing away from
Speaker 1: this idea that biological sex does not matter. Yes, it matters,
Speaker 1: And if a man wants to live as a woman
Speaker 1: or a woman wants to live as a man, that's
Speaker 1: their life, their choice. But it doesn't change my right
Speaker 1: to associate with other women in sports, associate with other
Speaker 1: women when it comes to locker rooms and bathrooms, doesn't
Speaker 1: change the right of my niece to be in a
Speaker 1: high school where she has a bathroom and a locker
Speaker 1: room that is reserved only for biological girls. It doesn't
Speaker 1: change the rights of true biological women and girls. We
Speaker 1: still retain our rights even when someone decides they want
Speaker 1: to live as the opposite sex. And actually I have
Speaker 1: a friend that's done that. He is living as a woman.
Speaker 1: Still a really great economist, so I enjoy hearing his
Speaker 1: insights about the economy.
Speaker 2: But I am not going to call him a woman.
Speaker 2: If we don't see each other that often, so it's
Speaker 2: probably not going to come up.
Speaker 1: But I appreciate that cultural pushback.
Speaker 2: I appreciate the fact that there's a sense that.
Speaker 1: People who are living on the street who are clearly
Speaker 1: meant ill, that those people need to be in institutions.
Speaker 1: That's something that the Trump administration just put a directive
Speaker 1: out about. I appreciate that because I don't want to
Speaker 1: see somebody who's mentally ill, and yeah, the guy with
Speaker 1: no pants.
Speaker 2: On, there's a good chance there's some mental illness there.
Speaker 1: Not judging it, just saying that that person would be
Speaker 1: better served in an institution than on the streets. So
Speaker 1: there's there's some cultural pushback that I appreciate, and the.
Speaker 2: Idea that no, we do not live in.
Speaker 1: A horrible racist country where commercial with a blonde actress
Speaker 1: is somehow signifying that American eagle is racist, or jeans
Speaker 1: are racist, or advertising as racist.
Speaker 2: And you know, how about reserve.
Speaker 1: Comments about racist for like actual racist, which do exist
Speaker 1: and should be called out. But that commercial is not
Speaker 1: like that. And when the left winges over people's genes,
Speaker 1: it only causes the rest of the people to go, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: no thanks, no thanks.
Speaker 2: Getting a couple of comments on.
Speaker 1: Give me a couple of comments on this topic, I
Speaker 1: hit a few of them.
Speaker 2: Says.
Speaker 1: I was thinking that maybe the Sweeney commercial was the
Speaker 1: first of many, and wouldn't the left feel really bad
Speaker 1: if they put a beautiful black woman or a beautiful
Speaker 1: Hispanic woman in the later commercials. Yeah, if it was
Speaker 1: a series of commercials showing beautiful women saying yeah, I've
Speaker 1: got good jeans, you know, and who knows, for all
Speaker 1: we know the pushback they've gotten, they'll stop running these ads.
Speaker 2: The act is is that.
Speaker 1: All human beings are beautiful, all human beings are unique.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite things to watch I'll give them
Speaker 1: a little shout out every morning.
Speaker 2: I tried to watch a video. It's through Facebook.
Speaker 1: It's called Born Different, and it's people who are born
Speaker 1: with genetic anomalies that make their lives pretty tough, but
Speaker 1: it's about them overcoming. Maybe they were born without arms
Speaker 1: and legs, maybe they were born with.
Speaker 2: Bones that break really easily.
Speaker 1: Maybe they are born with you know, prigeria or a
Speaker 1: condition that will seriously shorten their life and the quality
Speaker 1: of that life. And I love watching how these beautiful
Speaker 1: people overcome those difficulties to live their lives. Some cases,
Speaker 1: get married, have children, go to school. And if you
Speaker 1: want to widen your definition of what is beautiful, of
Speaker 1: what is brave, of what is inspiring, I would highly
Speaker 1: recommend these videos. I watch them every morning because I
Speaker 1: want to get my own attitude straight. I have got
Speaker 1: a chronic health condition that's not a lot of fun
Speaker 1: and I want to have a good attitude about it,
Speaker 1: and these videos help me get a good attitude. I'm
Speaker 1: one of those people that just things, you know, human
Speaker 1: beings are beautiful, become in all different shades, all different sizes.
Speaker 1: Sometimes what is a great heartache to somebody being born
Speaker 1: with a disability is in fact what brings out the
Speaker 1: greatest beauty of that person through their strength, their endurance,
Speaker 1: their overcoming And it's quite inspirational to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, quite inspirational. A couple other comments.
Speaker 1: Let's see who went ultra woke about the Sweeney Jeans.
Speaker 2: Let's talk to them. You know, I don't know if
Speaker 2: it was a New York Times, I don't know who
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 1: I just I read about the backlash to the backlash
Speaker 1: and thought, who in the world complains about an actress
Speaker 1: in a gene commercial. Well, I guess you could say
Speaker 1: I'm complaining about the people who are comple about the
Speaker 1: people in the commercials. So I guess that makes me
Speaker 1: part of the conversation. This person says, I liked your
Speaker 1: show today. You make coaching points, and you don't scream
Speaker 1: at me. I don't know that I have the energy
Speaker 1: to scream.
Speaker 2: I think that's I'm.
Speaker 1: Trying to figure out when I lost my capacity for
Speaker 1: screaming and outrage. And I don't know if it's chronic
Speaker 1: pain that took it out of me, but I just
Speaker 1: don't have it in me to to scream, to be
Speaker 1: completely outraged.
Speaker 2: I you know, I'm.
Speaker 1: Obviously offended by human evil and the painful, horrible things
Speaker 1: that people inflict on one another, war, starvation, things like that.
Speaker 1: But I'm no longer as I never really was that capable.
Speaker 1: But I've lost what limited capacity I have to be outraged.
Speaker 1: And I don't even know that I can scream. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think about what would make it. I guess
Speaker 1: falling out of an airplane probably do it.
Speaker 2: I don't scream at spiders. Actually like spiders. I like snakes.
Speaker 1: I like dogs that other people find scary, you know,
Speaker 1: big german shepherds and pit bulls.
Speaker 2: I just don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't get fear easily either, not to say there
Speaker 1: aren't some things out there that are pretty scary.
Speaker 2: I just not much for screaming.
Speaker 1: So let's see, we had all of our subjects today.
Speaker 1: Let's see if I will say this. I hit it
Speaker 1: earlier in the show, and that was a happy birthday. Colorado.
Speaker 1: Colorado turns one hundred and forty nine. Obviously, the state
Speaker 1: goes back farther than that. It was a territory. Before
Speaker 1: that that it was the home to various native tribes,
Speaker 1: but as a state, it is now one hundred and
Speaker 1: forty nine years old, and there's still some things I
Speaker 1: absolutely love about that's the state, and I think I
Speaker 1: will end the show with thoughts on that. If you
Speaker 1: have thoughts on what you love about this about the state,
Speaker 1: or we want to go on a thing or two
Speaker 1: that you don't like about it, that's fine as well.
Speaker 2: But I will say this, having lived here almost my
Speaker 2: entire life.
Speaker 1: I was on the East Coast for nine years, but
Speaker 1: I was born and raised here. The things that I
Speaker 1: like about where we've gone as a state. Number one,
Speaker 1: we have better restaurants than we ever had back in
Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies. Back in the nineteen seventies, you know,
Speaker 1: there was Benny Hannah, there was I guess the Yum
Speaker 1: Yum Tree. As listener pointed out earlier, there was the
Speaker 1: Magic Pan, but a lot of it was just diners.
Speaker 1: And now there is every kind of delicious food, especially
Speaker 1: if you go out to Aurora, east of Denver. Aurora
Speaker 1: has some of the best ethnic food, different restaurants from
Speaker 1: around the world. It is really I've quite a soft
Speaker 1: space in my heart for Aurora and all of the
Speaker 1: delicious food that you can find there.
Speaker 2: So got better food, it's cleaner, Back in.
Speaker 1: The nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties, all of us littered.
Speaker 1: And it's not like we were littering and feeling bad
Speaker 1: about it. We were just littering and feeling good about it. Frankly,
Speaker 1: I remember as a teenager just tossing whole bags of
Speaker 1: McDonald's trash out the window, not to mention cigarette butts,
Speaker 1: not to mention, you know, I blow my nose, throw
Speaker 1: that out the window, and it doesn't even occur to
Speaker 1: me that it was a bad thing to do. Nowadays,
Speaker 1: I will chase a flying receipt that has come out
Speaker 1: of my purse. I will, you know, chase it around
Speaker 1: my car as the wind blows it so as not
Speaker 1: to litter. I do not litter. I don't like littering.
Speaker 1: I you know, on top of that at all, I compost.
Speaker 1: I'm just very sensitive about reusing and trash and recycling
Speaker 1: and definitely not into littering. So we have a cleaner city,
Speaker 1: which I appreciate. All of our you know, little main
Speaker 1: streets are really cute now. Used to be that a
Speaker 1: lot of these little main streets had kind of gone dark,
Speaker 1: you know, people moved out to the suburbs, left a
Speaker 1: lot of these main streets they at empty storefronts or
Speaker 1: you know ced bars now downtown Littleton, downtown, Parker, downtown,
Speaker 1: Golden there's all of these little great downtown's, little city centers.
Speaker 1: So even newer city centers like Southlands or Bellmar that
Speaker 1: are just fun, fun, community, fun, sense of community. A
Speaker 1: lot of regional theaters, just you know, good times.
Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of farmers' markets. You could
Speaker 2: make it out this weekend.
Speaker 1: There's a great farmers market at Parker on Sundays, a
Speaker 1: lot of other farmers'.
Speaker 2: Markets, great fresh food.
Speaker 1: Didn't have that as a kid. You wanted those fresh peaches.
Speaker 2: You made that.
Speaker 1: Drive to the Grand Junction, you picked up your beaches there.
Speaker 1: Now you can get them here. So these are good
Speaker 1: points about the city of my birth and now, of
Speaker 1: course we could talk about the homelessness. We could talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, the crime rate being quite a bit higher.
Speaker 1: We could talk about the fact that traffic is well,
Speaker 1: it's shortened my life.
Speaker 2: Put it that way. I was trying to get to
Speaker 2: my birthday dinner.
Speaker 1: I had a birthday, I turned forty five again earlier
Speaker 1: this week, and a train on a set of tracks
Speaker 1: I didn't even know we're operable. That just a train
Speaker 1: basically stuck on Santa fe Like, who thought that was smart?
Speaker 2: During rush hour? That is trained to sit there.
Speaker 1: But usually it's not trains, it's cars, it's accidents, it's
Speaker 1: people doing stupid things. It's just the fact that we
Speaker 1: don't have big enough ros. I don't know what is
Speaker 1: but the traffic is mind blowingly annoying.
Speaker 2: But I want to I want to leave on a
Speaker 2: positive point.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of a lot of good things,
Speaker 1: a lot of good people, a lot of good trails,
Speaker 1: a lot of good bike trails, hiking trails, you know,
Speaker 1: sports teams, restaurants for the most part, traffic aside, crime aside.
Speaker 1: I would say Denver is a better place than the
Speaker 1: city that I grew up in. See I said, I
Speaker 1: don't on a positive note, I got to do it.
Speaker 1: I also want to say thanks to Zach behind the glass.
Speaker 1: He did a great job today. Appreciate that. And also
Speaker 1: just thank you Mandy Connell for allowing me to sub
Speaker 1: It has been an absolute pleasure. And finally I want
Speaker 1: to say thank you to all of you listeners. I know,
Speaker 1: trust me,