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Speaker 1: Friggin' Terreman grazes us with this presence this morning. What's up, Dylan,
Speaker 1: Paul so.
Speaker 2: Happy to be on. I appreciate it. I love the
Speaker 2: salute to Glenn given the line about our forums on
Speaker 2: jetnation dot com, which you should become a part of
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Speaker 2: So happy to be on. Usually these pods I do
Speaker 2: are seven thirty pm, so adjusting, and I got the
Speaker 2: coffee set up, but I'm ready to go. It's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Fun, beautiful. I see that you got the fresh Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl hat on. He got the Senior Bowl merchandise back
Speaker 1: there with your media credentials. It's great to see your
Speaker 1: well equipped.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah, year four, so I got four lanyard sticking
Speaker 2: up there. The Swiss cheese one is the most recent one,
Speaker 2: but yeah, year four. I feel like I'm a grizzled
Speaker 2: vet down in Mobile now and it's only a matter
Speaker 2: of time before they call me up to ask for
Speaker 2: my scouting reports.
Speaker 1: Right, That's what I'm talking about. Baby. We'll definitely pick
Speaker 1: your brain about that in a moment. But the most
Speaker 1: pressing question since Aaron Rodgers parting of ways again I
Speaker 1: guess it will be officially official once we get to
Speaker 1: the new league year, is what the hell does that
Speaker 1: do for the Jets cap situation and what's going to
Speaker 1: be happening there And for people who don't know, the
Speaker 1: early reporting is that the Jets are likely to release
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers that with a post June one designation, and
Speaker 1: to do that, they must carry him on the roster
Speaker 1: until March twelfth. Then they will cut him and then
Speaker 1: he will be released and can sign with any team.
Speaker 1: He's allowed to talk to any team right now because
Speaker 1: the Jets officially announced it their intention to part ways
Speaker 1: with him, so he's allowed to talk to teams right now,
Speaker 1: but just can't sign until he is officially released on
Speaker 1: March twelfth. So they're going to have to if they
Speaker 1: choose to do that at post June one, they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to split the remaining dead cap of forty nine
Speaker 1: million dollars over two years. It would be fourteen million
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five thirty five million in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: In that scenario, his current cap number of twenty three
Speaker 1: and a half million will be on the Jets books
Speaker 1: until June second it drops to fourteen million, which will
Speaker 1: give them a savings of nine and a half million
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five. I'm not sure what the hell
Speaker 1: is going to be available in mid June to use
Speaker 1: that money on, but that's a different coverisation for a
Speaker 1: different day. Like I said, he will be free to
Speaker 1: sign with teams on March thirteenth. He is allowed to
Speaker 1: speak with teams immediately. The other option is they could
Speaker 1: release him right now, and that would mean they absorb
Speaker 1: the forty nine million in dead cap all right now
Speaker 1: and the same accounts if they were to trade at
Speaker 1: which again appears unlikely. Let me start there, Dylan, with
Speaker 1: your opinion here. Would you eat it all right now
Speaker 1: or would just split it if it was up to
Speaker 1: you on the dead cap charges that exist with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was asked this question by Glenn on Thursday,
Speaker 2: and my opinion at the time was that it didn't
Speaker 2: really matter. I think either way, you have to find
Speaker 2: a cost effective quarterback to offset the heavy dead cap,
Speaker 2: regardless if you're taking the forty nine now or fourteen
Speaker 2: this year and thirty five next year. Since then, the
Speaker 2: next last couple of days, I've kind of sat on
Speaker 2: it and thought about it. I'd prefer them to split
Speaker 2: it up only because you take the fourteen this year
Speaker 2: and it allows you to have a quarterback, probably a veteran,
Speaker 2: on your books for twenty twenty five without exploding the
Speaker 2: percentage of cap that you're using at the quarterback position.
Speaker 2: I look at guys like Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, the
Speaker 2: fifty five and up group, you know, the fifty million group.
Speaker 2: Their percentage of cap is like thirty percent. I don't
Speaker 2: want the Jets to be paying thirty percent of cap
Speaker 2: space for quarterbacks that aren't here or aren't going to produce.
Speaker 2: So you take the fourteen for Aaron Rodgers, you bring
Speaker 2: in an eight to twelve million dollar veteran, you could
Speaker 2: still sign a guy in the draft. You're looking at
Speaker 2: a room that doesn't cost a ton. It's probably gonna
Speaker 2: be about twenty four percent of your cap space, which
Speaker 2: obviously keeps going up every year. So I think I've
Speaker 2: kind of changed my tune and said, let's take it
Speaker 2: on the back end instead, because next year you would
Speaker 2: assume that the Jets have their starting quarterback in place
Speaker 2: on a costly, cost effective deal, and that would kind
Speaker 2: of mitigate the thirty five. So I would take the
Speaker 2: fourteen now instead of forty five up front. Because we've
Speaker 2: saw the Broncos do it, but they hit on their
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame coach and quarterback. So unless you think
Speaker 2: the Jets can replicate that to a t, I'd say
Speaker 2: split it up and take fourteen and then thirty five.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then the other factor that I think agrees
Speaker 1: with your stance of splitting it up is the cap
Speaker 1: goes up for every year. Shit, let's say the cap
Speaker 1: goes up twenty million. You're pushing this, Aaron Rodgers can
Speaker 1: down the road of the thirty five million that we
Speaker 1: talked about. The cap goes up twenty million, then in
Speaker 1: theory to you, it's only a fifteen million dollars of
Speaker 1: what you had, and you're like, oh, okay, it's a
Speaker 1: little bit more reasonable. Yeah. I was the advocate of
Speaker 1: let's just let's just take our medicine now like a goodbye,
Speaker 1: and sit in the corner and take all the dead down.
Speaker 1: But you know, the same thing, the more marination I
Speaker 1: do that obviously behooves and benefits the jets immediately for
Speaker 1: contending and competing. Again, sometimes you get lucky and get
Speaker 1: a talented rookie that just blows up and you just
Speaker 1: eat the dead cap and that it all works out.
Speaker 1: But you know, that's easier said than done, I suppose
Speaker 1: as far as that's concerned. And also, where did you
Speaker 1: stand on Aaron Rodgers staying or going what It's a
Speaker 1: very divisive topic among Jet Nation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've already seen the comments blasting people one
Speaker 2: way or the other. This morning, I was very much
Speaker 2: in the we should probably bring him back. It's not
Speaker 2: a surprise. I'm a huge Rogers fan since before he
Speaker 2: came to the Jets. So like, it's the guy that
Speaker 2: i've like, you know, looked up to as a quarterback,
Speaker 2: because the Jets don't have quarterbacks to look up too,
Speaker 2: quite frankly, so I would say I was in the
Speaker 2: camp of keep him, although when Saul was fired, I
Speaker 2: immediately came out and said, nobody's safe. Joe's not safe,
Speaker 2: Aaron's not. A lot of the young core might not
Speaker 2: even be safe. And obviously we're seeing those arguments take
Speaker 2: place currently about the young core. But yeah, I was
Speaker 2: very much in the mindset, especially watching the last five
Speaker 2: six games. Obviously I know Buffalo and Seattle was grouped
Speaker 2: into those five or six games, but I was very
Speaker 2: much of he looks healthy, let's bring him back. Second
Speaker 2: year off the Achilles to me sounds a lot better
Speaker 2: than you know, first year off an Achilles. I understand
Speaker 2: the age ramifications, but I also have some of these
Speaker 2: same people telling me that Kirk Cousins is gonna be
Speaker 2: better on a second year removed from his acl and
Speaker 2: I understand there's seven years Achilles. Yeah, I understand there's
Speaker 2: seven years apart. But Kirk Cousins is just as washed
Speaker 2: up as people who said Aaron Rodgers has washed up.
Speaker 2: So to me, I was very much, let's keep Rogers
Speaker 2: for one more year. It kind of relieves the onus
Speaker 2: to find your quarterback right away. I think Aaron Glenn
Speaker 2: now has you know, started, he turned over the hourglass
Speaker 2: and now the sand is falling on his time to
Speaker 2: find a quarterback. Not to say he can't do it
Speaker 2: or you know, but we know what happens when coaches
Speaker 2: fail to find their quarterback. It usually doesn't go well.
Speaker 2: So I was very much of let's run it back
Speaker 2: one more year, try to you know, retool instead of rebuild.
Speaker 2: But obviously they had different plans. I'm not gonna, you know,
Speaker 2: say fire Aaron Glenn, fire Moojie just because I disagree,
Speaker 2: but I think until we know the quarterback in place
Speaker 2: to replace him, it's hard to reserve all of my judgment.
Speaker 2: But I disagreed with it. For sure.
Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you a quicker side here.
Speaker 1: Are you trying to take the Jets' best beard game
Speaker 1: among Jets podcast as you've been how long have you
Speaker 1: been growing that thing? It's like, yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: quite threatened. You know, I've got like it's a great
Speaker 1: girth going on here, great great volume. But you know,
Speaker 1: I've noticed that you've sort of been, you know, manifesting
Speaker 1: that for a while. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, when when this is all you can grow,
Speaker 2: you gotta kind of take care of what you can.
Speaker 2: I don't there there's nothing coming in over here. My
Speaker 2: mustache is so small. So yeah, you got to take
Speaker 2: care of what you can, right, You got to water
Speaker 2: the grass in the yard that you have, regardless of
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, blessed be he there's no question about it. Again,
Speaker 1: we got yeah, yeah, you damn straight I do. How
Speaker 1: can you miss that puppy? Again? We got Dylan Gash
Speaker 1: darn Tarreman, maybe the co host of Jet Nation Radio
Speaker 1: here on the program. Make sure you, guys again be
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Speaker 1: so feel free to do that, baby, keep those questions
Speaker 1: and comments flowing. Maybe any super chats for Dylan and myself,
Speaker 1: we'll make sure we answer those. Will also open up
Speaker 1: the phone lines here in just a little bit. So, okay,
Speaker 1: everyone says, hey, fire this guy, fire this guy, fire
Speaker 1: this guy. The follow up is, well, who the hell's
Speaker 1: gonna replace him? And hey, we got Tyrod Taylor, you
Speaker 1: know ty God, we got Jordan Travits, We've got former
Speaker 1: UFL MVP Adrian Martinez. So maybe we're all set, baby,
Speaker 1: Maybe we don't need anything, but Dylan, who is your
Speaker 1: most optimal whether the one you're rooting for, the one
Speaker 1: that you're banging the table for, should be the starting
Speaker 1: quarterback for the New York JITs the twenty twenty five is.
Speaker 2: Oom starting quarterback. I'm gonna have to give you two
Speaker 2: names because I do genuinely think two people will start
Speaker 2: for the Jets next year. I think it would be
Speaker 2: Tyrod and Justin Fields. I would love a room of Fields.
Speaker 2: I guess I shouldn't say love, but I would accept
Speaker 2: a room of fields. Tyrod. And I'm a big rookie
Speaker 2: advocate for Will Howard, so I know everybody's gonna say,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, Ohio State Buckeyes, they don't know how to,
Speaker 2: you know, have quarterbacks come into the NFL. I obviously
Speaker 2: would argue with CJ. Stroud, But if you get two
Speaker 2: Buckeye quarterbacks Justin Fields and Will Howard to mix with
Speaker 2: Tyrod Taylor, maybe they all three end up starting a
Speaker 2: game in twenty twenty five, which isn't really you know, ideal,
Speaker 2: but other than last year, we've seen this, especially since
Speaker 2: I has been hired, three quarterbacks start every year, So
Speaker 2: it looks like we're kind of trending back into that path.
Speaker 2: But I would say right now the one that would
Speaker 2: tickle my fancy the most would be Justin Fields Tyrod Taylor.
Speaker 2: And then you go get yourself like Will Howard at
Speaker 2: pick ninety.
Speaker 3: Two or something like that.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you real quick, because you just mentioned
Speaker 1: something that I love bringing up every draft season. My
Speaker 1: good buddy Jordan Reed, he's now and he has been
Speaker 1: at a draft does he's a big wag now and
Speaker 1: we'll have him on the show, I'm sure at the
Speaker 1: some point before the draft. But he always said to
Speaker 1: scout the player, not the side of the helmet. About
Speaker 1: and to your very point, right Ohio State quarterback, there's
Speaker 1: all these stereotypes with certain colleges and certain positions and
Speaker 1: all that. How do you look into that because right
Speaker 1: outside of C. J. Stroud, you know, unless you're a
Speaker 1: big Troy Smith fan, I guess where do you stand
Speaker 1: on those evaluations? Because they come up every single year.
Speaker 1: It's Ohio State quarterbacks is a very prevalent one. But
Speaker 1: there's all kinds of things like certain colleges and offensive linemen,
Speaker 1: and some of them could be good. It isn't always bad.
Speaker 1: Some are good too. But what do you make when
Speaker 1: that comes up? Is that all hogwash? When fans bring
Speaker 1: that up?
Speaker 2: I think so? I mean, to me, people only say
Speaker 2: scout the helmet, not the player when they're talking about
Speaker 2: somebody who they view as bad, and they're just gonna
Speaker 2: push the narrative of oh, this school doesn't produce quarterbacks
Speaker 2: or wide receivers. All it takes is one to reverse
Speaker 2: the trend. You know, I can't think of the example
Speaker 2: of like a smaller or unknown school guy that like
Speaker 2: made it and everybody's like, oh that school doesn't produce,
Speaker 2: But all it takes is one guy to come out
Speaker 2: and change the entire narrative about things. I thought CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud was going to do that coming out of Ohio State.
Speaker 2: So to me, that's one of the very first things
Speaker 2: I write on my prospect database is gather as many
Speaker 2: names as possible, scout the name, not the helmet, and
Speaker 2: then you know from there. It's like injuries, transfers, captain awards,
Speaker 2: off season opt outs, things like that. So it's very
Speaker 2: important on the list of things because you catch yourself
Speaker 2: doing this. It's like, oh, I watched an Ohio State
Speaker 2: quarterback last year, or I watched this wide receiver from
Speaker 2: this school last year. I already have a bad taste
Speaker 2: in my mouth because of that. So this wide receiver
Speaker 2: is gonna get knocked. I think it's easy to just
Speaker 2: wipe everything clean. I don't even look unless it's like
Speaker 2: late into the film. I don't look at time distance,
Speaker 2: certain situations when you know, I'll go back and look
Speaker 2: at Okay, was that a third down, was that a
Speaker 2: first down? Whatever? But there's a lot of times I
Speaker 2: take so much context out of the film just so
Speaker 2: I can watch the player himself, and a lot of
Speaker 2: times you just you don't even you look right through
Speaker 2: the helmet. So I think it's important for people who
Speaker 2: are trying to get into this stuff to not take
Speaker 2: a bias one way or the other, because you can
Speaker 2: have a happy bias and say Lsu produces wide receivers
Speaker 2: at such an insane rate, like I don't care that
Speaker 2: Kyraen Lacy just killed somebody in a car accident. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna take him anyway. So like there's negatives and positives
Speaker 2: to it all. I think it's very important to scout
Speaker 2: the player, not the helmet, because people fall into that
Speaker 2: quite often.
Speaker 1: So with that being said, why the hell are you
Speaker 1: on Will Howard? Oh, Willy Well? Why you're on Willy
Speaker 1: Big Willy.
Speaker 2: So this week I've done a ton of studying on Will.
Speaker 2: I just got access to more film that I wasn't
Speaker 2: aware of that was out there in the world. So
Speaker 2: I've found thirteen games of Will Howard film. I've watched six,
Speaker 2: I have seven left to go to me. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's just they're all in that cluster of like third Round.
Speaker 1: Who if they are?
Speaker 2: Jackson Dart from Ole Miss, Kyle McCord from Sarah Hughes,
Speaker 2: Will Howard from Ohio State, Jaln Milroe even from Alabama,
Speaker 2: and specifically with Darton Milroe. When I was in a mobile,
Speaker 2: I was really coming away with, Okay, one of these
Speaker 2: guys is going to be the trade up target on
Speaker 2: day one. They're probably second round talent right now, but
Speaker 2: they can improve their stock. To me, I don't think
Speaker 2: either one did, and if anything, it made me solidified
Speaker 2: in my stance of two quarterbacks go at the top
Speaker 2: Sha Duran Ward, and then you have a drop off
Speaker 2: until probably pick sixty five, which is the first pick
Speaker 2: in the third round, and that's where I feel the
Speaker 2: most comfortable taking that group of guys Dart, milrow Ward, McCord.
Speaker 2: That's funny Howard and McCord. So I would say they're
Speaker 2: all lumped into that group. But Will Howard, to me,
Speaker 2: maybe it's just a recency bias if I've been watching
Speaker 2: him all week, but his mechanics, his processing, the size element.
Speaker 2: He's six five, two thirty five. This is gonna get
Speaker 2: absolutely blown up in all the worst ways. But it's
Speaker 2: okay because it's seven thirty in the morning. I like
Speaker 2: in the way that he plays football to a very
Speaker 2: very light version of Jalen Hurts, the way that he
Speaker 2: can maneuver with his mobility, it's not great, but we've
Speaker 2: saw Jalen can run. We've I've seen too many plays
Speaker 2: where Will Howard turned a four yard gain into like
Speaker 2: a seven to eight yard gain and it didn't need
Speaker 2: to be you know, he put his shoulder down. I
Speaker 2: think he can throw the ball all over the field,
Speaker 2: except his deep accuracy and his deep past strength. I
Speaker 2: think those are his two weaknesses for me. But the
Speaker 2: mechanics and the poise and the calm in the pocket,
Speaker 2: that's something to me where even Alabama mill Jalen Hurts
Speaker 2: excuse me showing that, but then Oklahoma Jalen Hurts really
Speaker 2: showed it to me when he was able to link
Speaker 2: up with Ceed Lamb. And then you just see that
Speaker 2: poise and that maturity grow into the NFL. And I'm
Speaker 2: not saying Howard is gonna mirror Jalen Hurts his career
Speaker 2: to a t. Obviously, Jalen Hurts is a special talent.
Speaker 2: But Will Howard to me, has those traits where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: on third, fourth and one, you need a tush push guy.
Speaker 2: I've seen Will Howard do it six times now already,
Speaker 2: and he's gained probably about four yards on every tush
Speaker 2: push and they're not really pushing him. I don't know
Speaker 2: if the college rules are a little different, but it's
Speaker 2: a lot of him generating that yardage. It's not the
Speaker 2: running backs pushing him from behind. So to me, if
Speaker 2: you want to mirror what the Eagles do, I would say,
Speaker 2: grab a guy like Will Howard because Jalen six to one.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, Howard six 's four. But the way that
Speaker 2: they run, the way that they play football, to me,
Speaker 2: it just kind of speaks the same. So I'm a
Speaker 2: huge fan of Hurts and I think that that would
Speaker 2: be a great third round option. Obviously, Hurts was not
Speaker 2: a first round pick. He was picked fifty one. I
Speaker 2: don't think you know, you take Howard high. But if
Speaker 2: you really think that, if you agree and say that
Speaker 2: you can see some Jalen Hurts in his game, I
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe it is worth a late two, but
Speaker 2: I still think early three for that entire cluster of quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: So as Will Howard on the board at ninety two
Speaker 1: when the Jets are picking late in the third round,
Speaker 1: which is the Detroit Lions third round pick from the
Speaker 1: draft trade last.
Speaker 2: Year, Yeah, probably, depending on what the other quarterbacks look like.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe if Dart is there, I would consider it.
Speaker 2: I'm just not a big fan of his mechanics. I
Speaker 2: think he throws off his back foot a little too much.
Speaker 2: There's plays that are being clipped out on Twitter that, oh,
Speaker 2: look at this great NFL Sunday throw, and it's him
Speaker 2: standing in the pocket delivering while taking a shot, and
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, in the NFL, though half a second
Speaker 2: less time he's taking that hit, he's throwing wobbly, he's
Speaker 2: probably getting picked off. So there's things to like about Dart.
Speaker 2: I have to fully dive in. I've only done two
Speaker 2: games of Dart, and now that I have the new film,
Speaker 2: I have ten more games. So it's a long process.
Speaker 2: I wish I didn't have. I have to spend so
Speaker 2: much time on quarterbacks, but this is the most important
Speaker 2: position of football, of all of sports. So I'm gonna
Speaker 2: take my time on these two guys, specifically because I
Speaker 2: think at the end of the day, the Jets are
Speaker 2: very likely to grab one of the two.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into some of your senior ball
Speaker 1: action here before we open up the phone lines, and
Speaker 1: all you guys could yell at Dylan too. His face,
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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I can't wait to tell June
Speaker 2: my actual age because he told me I'm nine and
Speaker 2: look like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that, So I'm very much looking forward
Speaker 1: to that big reveal that TJ. I saw that from June.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, June's very passionate, so I'm looking forward.
Speaker 2: I love June.
Speaker 1: Yeah that should that should be uh yeah.
Speaker 2: Random sidebar. I saw I was watching content one day
Speaker 2: and June called into all the shows and every time
Speaker 2: he had a different Jets hat on, and I swear
Speaker 2: every hat got cooler and cooler. So shout out to June. Okay,
Speaker 2: you're dedicated. I like it. I like the merch too.
Speaker 1: I've seen him do this before, so like June, even
Speaker 1: on this show is one more for hat. So he's
Speaker 1: won a hat one time and then he you know,
Speaker 1: normally callers calling once and then they leave, and you
Speaker 1: know that's fine, give everyone an opportunity to share. But
Speaker 1: for some reason someone wanted to then call out June.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh boy, June, wherever you are in the universe.
Speaker 1: Sometimes he's he hangs out in the green room, but
Speaker 1: sometimes he'll call and then just leave. And yeah, someone
Speaker 1: called him out, so wherever he was in his house,
Speaker 1: he must have heard a way and then like ran
Speaker 1: to his computer but had a different jets hat on.
Speaker 1: I never said anything. I heard just but I just
Speaker 1: went ahead. No, I'm like, okay, He's like, hey man,
Speaker 1: you know it's a different appearance, a different op.
Speaker 2: So a GM to wear different hats sometimes.
Speaker 1: Apparently, and that he has that he had and bags.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that episode, but the
Speaker 1: bag at June GM lasted a little bit after that
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers incident. So yeah, yeah, oh boy, yeah it
Speaker 1: it went south pretty quick. I'm going to be honest.
Speaker 1: But any who, let's get some senior ball action in.
Speaker 1: So you got to go down a mobile. You said
Speaker 1: you've been there this year fourth the whack at the
Speaker 1: Mobile Alabama Pinata. What the by the way, what the
Speaker 1: hell's going on in Mobile? Okay, obviously we got the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, but like outside of the Ceder Bowl, like
Speaker 1: you know, Cedier Bowl practices aren't all day and night.
Speaker 1: What are you doing when Senior Bowl action isn't happening,
Speaker 1: Dylan derrim.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the the whole week is Monday to Saturday,
Speaker 2: but I only go Tuesday through Thursday, so I only
Speaker 2: go for the practices. I don't go for the games.
Speaker 2: And that's not to say you can't take anything from
Speaker 2: the games. I just I prefer to, you know, expedite
Speaker 2: the trip back and get back for Monday to get
Speaker 2: back to my normal job. But Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, you
Speaker 2: got practice to to practice sessions, you're able to do
Speaker 2: interviews in between on field, which is always a madhouse.
Speaker 2: But shout out to our buddies dom C and Jet's
Speaker 2: Chaos because they get in line super fast. They get
Speaker 2: down on the field and they pump out those interviews.
Speaker 2: So you get the interviews between practices. And then the
Speaker 2: night life. I mean, you could really do whatever you want.
Speaker 2: You could stay in and do con. You could go
Speaker 2: in you know, downtown and go to the bar. I
Speaker 2: chose to go to this bar called a Habit Dasher
Speaker 2: on I believe Tuesday night after the first set of practices,
Speaker 2: and I'm sitting there eating my steak, just enjoying my
Speaker 2: drink and talking to some guys that was their first
Speaker 2: year there, and they're leaving the bar and they turn
Speaker 2: around and their eyes are wide like they just saw
Speaker 2: a ghost. And they come running back. They're like, hey,
Speaker 2: Ian Rappaport and Tom Pelsero are coming in right now.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, like I've seen these guys. It's
Speaker 2: not a big deal. It wasn't just them. It was
Speaker 2: it was Ian, it was Tom, it was Jeremy Fowler,
Speaker 2: Lindsay Rhodes, Mike Mayock, all the ESPN guys, Matt Miller,
Speaker 2: Matt Bowen, there was another Idzich was there, Dimitrov was there.
Speaker 2: Like all these guys just started flooding and women, excuse me,
Speaker 2: He started flooding the bar and I'm sitting there eating
Speaker 2: my steak and I'm like, oh, okay, let me just
Speaker 2: push this to the side and joined in on the conversation.
Speaker 2: And I've met Matt Miller before in years past at
Speaker 2: mobile events, so nice guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was choking with him a little bit. He remembered
Speaker 2: me from the meetup too, which is cool. Cool, But
Speaker 2: it's just is that random Inmobile where you could just
Speaker 2: be sitting alone and then all of a sudden you're
Speaker 2: flooded with some of the most you know, famous, I
Speaker 2: guess media outlets and in the sport, and I'd spent
Speaker 2: spent another forty five minutes in the bar, and I
Speaker 2: didn't have another drink, but I just sat there and
Speaker 2: listened and talked and just enjoyed the conversation. And then
Speaker 2: that's kind of the my favorite part of it, to
Speaker 2: be honest, Like you walk past like general managers that
Speaker 2: aren't getting access to the bars because they're so full,
Speaker 2: but the bouncer doesn't know that that's Quasia Davo Mensa
Speaker 2: from the Minnesota Vikings that he just said, sorry, we're
Speaker 2: at capacity. So it's just so funny that like the
Speaker 2: and then the former GM group of like Demitrov Izick,
Speaker 2: all those guys kind of like clustered walking around together
Speaker 2: in mobile and we were calling them the formers. We
Speaker 2: were joking around. So it's funny because like, these guys
Speaker 2: want jobs back. And obviously Demitrov interviewed for and then
Speaker 2: we hired Rick Spielman, so he is technically another former.
Speaker 2: So you just never know who you're going to run
Speaker 2: into in the night life. And I think that that
Speaker 2: that interactions and those engagements are probably like you know,
Speaker 2: second to none like I would do that over going
Speaker 2: to practice most days if I could just sit there
Speaker 2: and pick the brain of a lot of these people.
Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you, because I think it
Speaker 1: was who did I just have on? I can't remember anyway,
Speaker 1: I guess we do a show every day. But uh,
Speaker 1: there were some of that frequents the Senior Bowl a lot.
Speaker 1: Oh it was Russell Brown who frequents the Senior Bowl
Speaker 1: a lot. And I asked him about what you just
Speaker 1: talked about. Right, You're you're at the bar. You know,
Speaker 1: you're at this bar and you're enjoying your stake and
Speaker 1: there's all these friggin famous people. I'm sure you'd love
Speaker 1: to talk to all of them, like, hey, rap for
Speaker 1: you want to come over here and share some jets,
Speaker 1: titbits and stuff. So what is the proper social etiquette
Speaker 1: for that event? You've been there four times, so I'm
Speaker 1: sure from the first time of Hubba to Hubba to
Speaker 1: Hubba at the you know, time number four of being
Speaker 1: there at the bar? What what's a lot? Are you
Speaker 1: just around to walk up to EDDYGM and start rubbing
Speaker 1: elbows and talking it up? Is there like a hey Man?
Speaker 1: At certain points you're allowed to talk certain points, you're not.
Speaker 1: What's the social etiquette there, Dylan Tarreman. But you have
Speaker 1: all these big ass famous people currently in the NFL, players,
Speaker 1: all this other stuff.
Speaker 2: So my anxiety doesn't allow for this to take place.
Speaker 2: But yes, formerly, formerly, that's what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to go up, say hey, Jeremy Fowler, it's
Speaker 2: really I really follow your work. My name is Dylan Tarreman.
Speaker 2: It's great to meet you. And then he'll say hey, Dylan,
Speaker 2: nice to meet you, and then he'll probably forget my
Speaker 2: name in five minutes. But I'm I'm so like nervous
Speaker 2: in crowds of people, especially people that I've been following
Speaker 2: on Twitter for almost a decade now that I just
Speaker 2: I happen to follow find uh Will Parkinson inmobile and
Speaker 2: he's very, very good at the I'm just gonna go
Speaker 2: say my name and introduce and he's talked to a
Speaker 2: lot of these people before, so I've kind of found
Speaker 2: myself weaseling into his conversation, inputting Hey, I'm Dylan, nice
Speaker 2: to meet you as well. So I'm not good at
Speaker 2: introducing myself. So how it happened at the bar was
Speaker 2: the ESPN guy. It was either Matt. It was either
Speaker 2: Matt or Jeremy Fowler came up and said, Hey, are
Speaker 2: these two seats taken? And they weren't. And I said, yeah,
Speaker 2: to everybody but Matt, they're taken. And I met Matt Miller.
Speaker 2: But Matt Bowen, and I don't know if you've ever
Speaker 2: seen him, he's a bit taller. He's got like that
Speaker 2: like head coach look on his face, like he's gonna
Speaker 2: scream at you. And I was like, whoa, Matt, I'm
Speaker 2: sorry I met Matt Miller because he looked like he
Speaker 2: was getting getting ready to like chew me out for
Speaker 2: saying he couldn't sit there. So that was how I
Speaker 2: broke the ice with them, and then it was just
Speaker 2: kind of easy to talk. Didn't get a laugh, Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: Matt got a laugh. Bowen kind of smirked at me
Speaker 2: until he realized that I was talking about Matt Miller,
Speaker 2: but at first he was not laughing, and I was like,
Speaker 2: oh shit. I was like, I gotta I gotta be
Speaker 2: careful of who the Matts are in this group. So
Speaker 2: that was kind of my icebreaker with them because I
Speaker 2: knew Matt. But other than that, Yeah, you have to
Speaker 2: go and break the ice. Like I walk up to
Speaker 2: you know, I say hi to Connor and Trevor from
Speaker 2: Stock Exchange. I joke with Connor action I'm like, dude,
Speaker 2: it's not like I can't say I went to the
Speaker 2: Senior Bowl until I had a discussion with you at
Speaker 2: practice and then I check it off my list. So
Speaker 2: it's always cool to see those guys, But yeah, you
Speaker 2: have to have the them to go say hi to them,
Speaker 2: because even if they recognize you, they're not going to
Speaker 2: come up to you. Of course, even like maybe somebody
Speaker 2: like you, because you are recognizable. You've had these people
Speaker 2: on your pods. Maybe if Connor saw you, and Connor
Speaker 2: is such a nice guy, he would say, oh, hey,
Speaker 2: what's up, Paul, and you know, recognize you. But for
Speaker 2: the most part they have this happened to them all week.
Speaker 2: That you have to go and find something to joke
Speaker 2: about or say or try to stand out in a way.
Speaker 2: So that's the tough part for me is trying to
Speaker 2: break through that barrier of I have to go introduce
Speaker 2: myself and and just not care.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, let's just let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: You can feel Rita pods Onne this if you want,
Speaker 1: but I hope you don't. I hope you go for it.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, come on, Dylan, Okay, who who is
Speaker 1: the person that you're not?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: Again? Draft a lot of people at Trever sick of
Speaker 1: as Connor Rogers, some of the ESPN people, NFL that worked.
Speaker 1: But what have you that you in your head? Right?
Speaker 1: We all put these people on a pedestal, right, we
Speaker 1: follow him on Twitter for information everything, and you're.
Speaker 6: Like, oh my god, look at this guy.
Speaker 1: And then you meet him, You're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: what a dick? Like, oh boy, this was nothing when
Speaker 1: I set it up to be, which is sort of
Speaker 1: horrible because now forever you're gonna have that memory and
Speaker 1: grained in your head. You're like, man, after that encounter,
Speaker 1: I wish I would have never met you. So I
Speaker 1: just pretended that you were still this whatever thing. I
Speaker 1: put you on the pedestal. Who is someone that you
Speaker 1: had pretty high up there? And then you met him
Speaker 1: at the Senior Boy, You're like, what a dick.
Speaker 2: H That's a tough one because everybody is like overly polite.
Speaker 2: Oh that's nice to be, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like I feel like they almost have to be because but.
Speaker 1: You can tell if it's fake.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if I want to say
Speaker 2: the name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just kid. You can tell me out there, but.
Speaker 2: I can tell you off air. But yeah, in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two, there was a moment with somebody related to
Speaker 2: a team in Green and White that I wasn't really
Speaker 2: enthused by the you know, the reaction I got. He
Speaker 2: was nice, but I felt like he was being a
Speaker 2: lot nicer to the other people in the group than
Speaker 2: me specifically. Maybe that's just a me thing, but yeah,
Speaker 2: there was one guy specifically that I felt And this
Speaker 2: was four years ago now, but I saw him again
Speaker 2: and I said hello, and everything was more cordial this time.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't a full conversation. But yeah, I think
Speaker 2: there's one person specifically that I can tell you all.
Speaker 1: Fair okay, So yeah, make sure you remind me of
Speaker 1: that after. But also just in general, can you tell
Speaker 1: when people like have like because I haven't been there,
Speaker 1: so it's on my bucket list. I hoped to do
Speaker 1: it one day. That would be amazing.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see you down there.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's gonna be so cool, Like for instance,
Speaker 1: I Conna Rogers and like some of these people I've
Speaker 1: known over like ten fifteen years, but like I've never
Speaker 1: met them before. It's only been these virtual interactions. That's
Speaker 1: that to me is gonna be wild. So I can't wait.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like an uncaged animal down there in Mobile, Alabama.
Speaker 1: So watch out everybody whenever I show up. Can you
Speaker 1: tell when people like don't give a shit and they
Speaker 1: just do not want to have a conversation with you again,
Speaker 1: you're over polited? Yeah, yeah, thanks, Josh, it's Paul, yeah, whatever,
Speaker 1: and then just like you know, yeah, they said yeah.
Speaker 2: And a lot of that is timing. I think a
Speaker 2: lot of have to understand when the practices are going on,
Speaker 2: it's not the best time to try to pick somebody's
Speaker 2: brain because they're trying to just watch the game. So
Speaker 2: in that ten minute of interviews on the field with players,
Speaker 2: that's what I kind of walk around and try to
Speaker 2: have my conversations of Hey, who stuck out to you
Speaker 2: at practice? And even on like lower levels, I won't
Speaker 2: go up to like another content creator and start having
Speaker 2: a conversation mid practice. So there's times where I've walked
Speaker 2: up to a guy at the wrong time, and you
Speaker 2: could just tell he wasn't that interested in any conversation
Speaker 2: at that time. But then you know, you get him
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes later when there's a down period
Speaker 2: or special teams is going on, and he's more willing
Speaker 2: to talk to you. So yeah, it's it's a lot
Speaker 2: of timing, but you could definitely tell the people, especially
Speaker 2: some of the higher up media guys, like they don't
Speaker 2: care what your name is or what outlet you work for.
Speaker 2: They don't care that you're about to ask them to
Speaker 2: come on your podcast. They just want to enjoy their practice.
Speaker 1: I see, and then give us a good one. This
Speaker 1: is a fun one that I'm sure is easy to
Speaker 1: tell here on the show. What's an interaction that It
Speaker 1: could either be you held them in high regard and
Speaker 1: they delivered when you met them they're the senior Bowl,
Speaker 1: or maybe you had like little to no regard you
Speaker 1: like whoever, and then they over delivered, Like whoa, that
Speaker 1: was actually a nice guy. How did give us one
Speaker 1: of those for the senior before you open up the
Speaker 1: phone lines?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'll go back to twenty twenty two
Speaker 2: when the entire Jets group was there. That's when the
Speaker 2: Jets line Lions and the Jets were the stabs there
Speaker 2: and I was walking up the stairs and I noticed
Speaker 2: Rich Sumini walking across the top of the staircase and
Speaker 2: I let him go and he was, you know, we're
Speaker 2: doing the whole you go no, you go first, No,
Speaker 2: you go first. So I was just surprised that Rich
Speaker 2: was even willing to play that game with somebody. Maybe
Speaker 2: it's because I was wearing a Jets shirt at the time,
Speaker 2: but he was very polite and he was like, no,
Speaker 2: you go first, and I was like, sir, you go first.
Speaker 2: Like I know who you are, you go first. And
Speaker 2: then I didn't say go ahead, Rich, No, I don't like,
Speaker 2: you know, calling everybody out by their name, but like
Speaker 2: I'll be respectful and say, hey, I you know, I
Speaker 2: obviously recognize who you are. And then I look to
Speaker 2: the left do The entire Jets beat was there, and
Speaker 2: they were all just looking at this interaction go on
Speaker 2: with me and Rich and I'm like, hey, guys, how's
Speaker 2: it going. Like I'm not gonna call everybody out by name,
Speaker 2: but it was like, you know, Hughes and I don't
Speaker 2: even remember all the people at the time, there was
Speaker 2: Jenny Coakley was there nice like there was just so
Speaker 2: many like every single because the whole beat was there.
Speaker 2: But it was nice to see Rich in that you know, manner,
Speaker 2: because normally people will probably see Rich and think, oh,
Speaker 2: he's just an old stick in the mud. He doesn't
Speaker 2: really want to talk to anybody. But he was very
Speaker 2: friendly just in that small interaction. Maybe again because I
Speaker 2: was wearing the Jets shirt, but Rich definitely surprised me.
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. I love it. People keep liking
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Speaker 1: We got a lot of callers calling into the show,
Speaker 1: but let's start with there the guest. We've all been
Speaker 1: waiting for for Dylan and this guest to be on
Speaker 1: the show together, and I'm looking forward to the information
Speaker 1: that's about to be spilled. June the GM is here
Speaker 1: on the show. What's up, Jim?
Speaker 4: What's going on? Mister Paul? Hey, listen. Just for you
Speaker 4: Met fans, I'm from the Bronx New York. Baby, I'm
Speaker 4: a Yankee fan. This is a Knicks hat.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay, thanks for the clarity there. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: I have to make sure that so Dylan, first of all,
Speaker 4: I'm impressed you look like you're nine years old.
Speaker 8: It's crazy, Okay, dude, you must have been covering Jets
Speaker 8: stuff since you were like two and a half, which
Speaker 8: is impressive.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to ask you.
Speaker 8: There's a couple of things I wanted to address, but
Speaker 8: one thing is how did you start covering the Jets?
Speaker 4: Because you look extremely young. I like to know that.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I turned thirty next month, So wow, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I've definitely benefited from the looking young, for sure. I
Speaker 2: get I did everywhere I go for anything, really, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I just started. I moved down to South Carolina from
Speaker 2: New Jersey in twenty nineteen, and I was looking for
Speaker 2: a new full time job, and in between, I said, hey,
Speaker 2: I love the Jets. I love, you know, talking ball.
Speaker 2: My friend and I like, we talk just on our
Speaker 2: headsets on Xbox like every day about football. So I
Speaker 2: was like, dude, why can't we do this about our teams.
Speaker 2: He's a Packers fan. I'm a Jets fan. So when
Speaker 2: I moved to South Carolina, I was looking for full
Speaker 2: time work and I just emailed I think it was
Speaker 2: like jet Press, jet Nation, all those top outlets at
Speaker 2: the time, five years ago, and I said, hey, I
Speaker 2: don't have, you know, college writing experience. I was like,
Speaker 2: I did okay in high school English classes. I can write.
Speaker 2: I was like, but I feel like my knowledge of
Speaker 2: football is you know, at a level where I could
Speaker 2: benefit and you guys could benefit from having me on
Speaker 2: the pod. And Jet Nation just said, hey, we will
Speaker 2: take you with your experience. It's a volunteer position, but
Speaker 2: we'd love to have you come right. And it started
Speaker 2: just you know, small writing, Like the first article I
Speaker 2: wrote was the Adam Gase hiring article. I had to
Speaker 2: edit in a paragraph about Adam Gase getting an interview
Speaker 2: with the Jets, and I was so excited to do
Speaker 2: my research on Todd Monkin and Aaron Glenn and Cliff
Speaker 2: Kingsbury and then editing that, you know, Adam Gay's paragraph
Speaker 2: in sucked. But then you know, fast forward another year
Speaker 2: later and they needed a fill in on the pod
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, I was like, hey, I'll
Speaker 2: come on the pod tonight, Like I don't, I have
Speaker 2: nothing going on. And back then we used to call
Speaker 2: in on our phones to blog talk we did. We
Speaker 2: weren't on YouTube or anything like that. So I was
Speaker 2: just sitting on my phone for like two hours like this.
Speaker 4: And then we.
Speaker 2: Upgraded to the YouTube space in twenty twenty two. So
Speaker 2: I've been with them for about five or six years now,
Speaker 2: I guess it's twenty twenty five, so almost six years.
Speaker 2: And it was all just because I randomly said, hey,
Speaker 2: I want to, you know, write and make content for
Speaker 2: your website, and they took me on. So I'm super
Speaker 2: appreciative of Jet Nation everything they've done for me. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it was it was all about just you know, trying
Speaker 2: to put my foot into the door and keep it open.
Speaker 8: Was one of those things that I, like I tell you,
Speaker 8: called my favorite saying from my Patino is a risk,
Speaker 8: not taking risk.
Speaker 4: You took the risk. You took the East Coast hustle
Speaker 4: with you up there to South Carolina and the rest
Speaker 4: is history.
Speaker 8: Much respect with that about Will Howard, he does still
Speaker 8: a pretty ball. We can't forget that Jalen Hurst actually
Speaker 8: developed his quarterback ability under the great Lincoln Riley when
Speaker 8: he was with my Sooners.
Speaker 4: I'm a Sooner fan. He betrayed us. Yeah, I'm still hurting.
Speaker 8: You know, for me, for any quarterback in this class
Speaker 8: and even next year's class, because all this can't miss stuff.
Speaker 4: Triva Norvins was also a can't miss prospect.
Speaker 8: How he was the the Greek god of Donnis with
Speaker 8: the long golden hair, you know, and he's he's all
Speaker 8: right for me.
Speaker 4: More than anything, it's who's going to develop the quarterback?
Speaker 8: I'm I'm wondering it's Tanner a developer of the quarterback
Speaker 8: position or just a play quarner.
Speaker 4: That's interesting. What do you think about that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right now, I would have to just lean that
Speaker 2: none of these guys have done it before. Engstrand, Scott Turner,
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks coach who is a former running back. Yeah, London,
Speaker 2: Charles London, Yep. I don't think that there's a history
Speaker 2: of any of these guys developing a quarterback. Yes. With
Speaker 2: that being said, though, I think Angstrand, with everything he's
Speaker 2: seen in Detroit, could potentially be that guy that could
Speaker 2: key in on a quarterback and say, hey, I like
Speaker 2: Xyz traits, I can work with that and let's roll again.
Speaker 2: That's putting a lot of faith in a first time
Speaker 2: developer of a quarterback. But I think if you're gonna
Speaker 2: look at a guy who's going to be the developer,
Speaker 2: it would be Engstrand, and then maybe even Scott Turner
Speaker 2: because his experience as an OC it's kind of helpful,
Speaker 2: but he hasn't worked directly with quarterbacks. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: would say you're putting a lot of hope into it.
Speaker 2: But Angstrand would be the guy that you would look
Speaker 2: to to be the developer.
Speaker 1: And real quick, I'm just gonna throw this question because
Speaker 1: I see it in here. Moods was a quarter requests
Speaker 1: Tanner also, Yeah, they were all in the quarterback room.
Speaker 1: There's Tanner, Angstrand, it was a Darren Moojie, and it
Speaker 1: was our boy Kevin O'Connell. All three of those were
Speaker 1: in the San Diego State quarterback room for a period
Speaker 1: of time. So all former quarterbacks. Yes, back to you, Jude.
Speaker 8: No, that's that's interesting right there, because we do know
Speaker 8: that that's an interesting quarterback room.
Speaker 4: So they know it literally something about quarterbacks.
Speaker 8: See, for me, my late round flyer will be mill
Speaker 8: Roll and only because I like the fact that he
Speaker 8: went through a lot of pain in Alabama. Right, it
Speaker 8: wasn't the Nick Saban ran Alabama. It turned the shit
Speaker 8: really quick down there. I understand he's not a pass
Speaker 8: off the ball, but neither was Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4: Neither was Jalen Hurst.
Speaker 8: Coming out of college, there was a look at for
Speaker 8: the cannon and the accuracy of an all. But Milroe
Speaker 8: has the one trait that no other quarterback in this
Speaker 8: draft class has a side from cam Ward, which is
Speaker 8: natural gifted athletic ability. I feel like it would be
Speaker 8: a threat to hand off the ball, because whatever quarterback
Speaker 8: we got, we don't need to.
Speaker 4: Don't get fancy. Hand the damn ball off the hall.
Speaker 4: That's what you need to do. Turn around, hand the
Speaker 4: ball off, make a play with his legs.
Speaker 8: Milroe can do that, and then as time comes on,
Speaker 8: hopefully he can progress it to a nice passer. I'd
Speaker 8: rather have a young mill Row than an older what's
Speaker 8: the kid's name, I'm just in fee.
Speaker 4: Yeah, similar games, but give me the younger legs. I
Speaker 4: take the younger legs and I feel a little bit
Speaker 4: more explosive. What you guys think about Milrow?
Speaker 2: Yeah, as you were talking, I pulled up my scouting
Speaker 2: report on Milroe. Right now I have him, and this
Speaker 2: was pre Combine. I have a low second round grade
Speaker 2: on him. I was ready to be impressed in Mobile.
Speaker 2: Obviously I didn't. I wasn't impressed with any of the quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: That being said, I do think there's a lot of
Speaker 2: things to hang your hat on with Jalen Milroe. If
Speaker 2: you want a guy with traits, I mean, the speed
Speaker 2: is uncoachable. The decision making I think got better as
Speaker 2: the season went on. I know the Michigan game happened,
Speaker 2: and that was probably I think that was his last
Speaker 2: game of the year. So it's kind of hard to
Speaker 2: end on such a sour note, but I thought decision
Speaker 2: making got better. His poise was okay in the pocket. Obviously,
Speaker 2: his escapability out of the pocket was a plus to
Speaker 2: me because of his athleticism, where a guy like Shdur
Speaker 2: Sanders he has the athleticism to escape the pocket, but
Speaker 2: he usually waits a half a second too long and
Speaker 2: then he can't get out of the pocket. So Milroe
Speaker 2: does a good job of getting out and actually like
Speaker 2: looking for the pass, although I do think when he
Speaker 2: scrambles he doesn't keep his head up downfield to throw.
Speaker 2: He more becomes a just takeoff runner, whereas Will Howard
Speaker 2: he'll keep his head up and look for the pass downfield.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot to like about Jalen Milroe, a
Speaker 2: lot to dislike. But going back to the coaching point,
Speaker 2: we haven't had a guy develop a quarterback, so that's
Speaker 2: probably a negative for Milroe. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: you have a former running back as a quarterback coach.
Speaker 2: So if you can tap into that run first mentality
Speaker 2: and then bring along the passing upside of Milroe, then yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: I think you could convince the Jets to be the
Speaker 2: team for him. I think you need to have a
Speaker 2: really solid plan place for Milroe, and the environment needs
Speaker 2: to be probably a B plus or better talking about
Speaker 2: your supporting cast, wide receivers, offensive line, run game, which
Speaker 2: all need to be improved. So I think Milroe is
Speaker 2: a fun prospect and I wouldn't mind it, but there's
Speaker 2: just too many variables where you have to rely on
Speaker 2: a good coaching staff and a good environment where I'm
Speaker 2: not necessarily sure the Jets can put all those things
Speaker 2: in place for him.
Speaker 1: And real quick, just don't you said a low second
Speaker 1: round pick, just to clarifor you mean that Jet late yes,
Speaker 1: late second round pick? Okay, yeah, I just want to clarify,
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 8: The master question didn't So I brought up this name
Speaker 8: a couple I want to say, maybe around three four
Speaker 8: weeks ago.
Speaker 4: Everybody thought I was crazy.
Speaker 8: Has naming coming off the top of my head right
Speaker 8: now because the caffeine hasn't kicked in just yet.
Speaker 4: I'm a little older naturally.
Speaker 8: But what did you think about the quarterback that came
Speaker 8: down from Canada? The six to six GUNRK.
Speaker 2: Right, No, no, no, Tanner el Gerzma from.
Speaker 4: Opinion on what'd you think about?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: He was he was okay at the Senior Bowl. There
Speaker 2: was seven quarterbacks at the Senior Bowl, and I don't
Speaker 2: think any of them really stood out to me. Tyler
Speaker 2: Shuck from Louisville stood out. Al Gerizma, I mean he
Speaker 2: did okay for playing quarterback for six years, and most
Speaker 2: of it was at the Canadian level. He'd never really
Speaker 2: played American football, so dom C brought this up to me.
Speaker 2: But he's used to his wide receivers getting a head
Speaker 2: start and calling hike as they're running past the line
Speaker 2: as how Canada works, right, So his timing was completely
Speaker 2: off the first few days, and that makes sense. He's
Speaker 2: just not used to a wide receiver starting at zero
Speaker 2: miles per hour and then getting into his route, so
Speaker 2: there was timing issues with him. I thought he threw
Speaker 2: the ball okay. I mean he has an over the
Speaker 2: top release. He's not more of a side arm guy.
Speaker 2: So he had the arm angles, but I like his
Speaker 2: natural rule arm the bullet. See that's the thing. It
Speaker 2: didn't pop to me, none of the none of the
Speaker 2: guys really had pop in their throw except for Tyler Shuck,
Speaker 2: and I think he's like a twenty six year old aspects,
Speaker 2: so like he's more of a grown man again amongst
Speaker 2: boys and that growth. Yes, and none of them really
Speaker 2: had that. I need to separate myself mentality, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go do that. So Algerzma kind of just like fell
Speaker 2: into the mix of the rest of them and there
Speaker 2: was no real like positives or negatives. He's probably an
Speaker 2: undrafted guy, if I had to be be fair, just
Speaker 2: because he's so green six years at the position he is,
Speaker 2: I think a little bit older. I think he's twenty
Speaker 2: three already, so like there's negatives to work against him.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, Unfortunately, no quarterback really solidified themselves to
Speaker 2: me at Mobile.
Speaker 8: And being that you've been at Mobile, you said, this
Speaker 8: is but a second or third year, a straight fourth year. Okay,
Speaker 8: so it's a safe to say, let's say your quarterback
Speaker 8: prospect that might get getting drafted. Do you think that,
Speaker 8: because I've heard this before, you think that mobile is
Speaker 8: a good look because it seems like there's.
Speaker 4: So much going on, so much pressure.
Speaker 8: You're playing with receiver was a running back and I
Speaker 8: used to play with if you're a top prospect, would
Speaker 8: you even skip that and just focus on a combine it?
Speaker 8: Would you still go down? Because it seems like people
Speaker 8: heard that.
Speaker 1: Drafts and I would just add, I think the combine
Speaker 1: is the same thing. Those are a lot of guys
Speaker 1: that you haven't played with either, and that's just gonna
Speaker 1: be bigger. There's gonna be more people there, But go
Speaker 1: ahead doing Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think if you're speaking specifically from a guy like
Speaker 2: cam Ward who's already looked at in the top five,
Speaker 2: it probably doesn't help to go there. And I know
Speaker 2: there was a lot of Miami guys Aroro the tight end, Ristrepo,
Speaker 2: the wide receiver, they had a couple a linemen, and
Speaker 2: then Damien Martinez, their running back, was there. And I
Speaker 2: feel like a lot of those guys accepted on the
Speaker 2: belief that cam Ward would actually be there and then
Speaker 2: he ended up not going. So a guy like him
Speaker 2: who has his stock already solidified, I'd say it'd probably hurt.
Speaker 2: But then you look at a guy like I like
Speaker 2: Will Howard. He came off the National Championship a week before.
Speaker 2: I understand he's probably banged up. He had the this
Speaker 2: weird thing on his left hand that they pointed out
Speaker 2: at the National Championship game, So there's probably an injury,
Speaker 2: you know, status to him on that one. But he
Speaker 2: was a guy who I thought could have came in
Speaker 2: and been that eighth quarterback. To light it up. Riley
Speaker 2: Leonard was there, the loser of the National Championship. Obviously, Sorry,
Speaker 2: I don't mean to pull up stuff like that, but
Speaker 2: but you know, Riley Leonard was there, and he lost
Speaker 2: the National Championship, and he had the same amount of
Speaker 2: time off as Will Howard and he didn't look great.
Speaker 2: But that's not to say Will Howard was gonna look
Speaker 2: bad too. So if Will went in and had a
Speaker 2: good week at Mobile, I think he could have been
Speaker 2: like that early second round, maybe even back endo first round.
Speaker 2: Guy like Jackson Dart is being talked about, because I
Speaker 2: really wasn't impressed with Dart, and I think the Charlie
Speaker 2: Weiss tweet is going a little bit further with Dart
Speaker 2: than most people think. So I wasn't impressed with him,
Speaker 2: But yeah, there was a there was room for any
Speaker 2: quarterback really to come in and impress. But I guess
Speaker 2: it depends on what your pre drafts processed grade is. Like,
Speaker 2: if you're getting a high one, you probably don't need
Speaker 2: to go. But bo Nicks he became a mid one
Speaker 2: because he went and he performed and he did okay
Speaker 2: compared to the group. So I guess it would all
Speaker 2: depend on where your pre draft grade goes.
Speaker 8: And last question, Paul, ifview don't mind, sir, every guy
Speaker 8: you know solo from Mobile, I want to pick his
Speaker 8: brain as much as possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all enjoying it.
Speaker 8: Yes, it's a safe to say that the defensive lineman
Speaker 8: that in terms of draft, this is the deepest position
Speaker 8: in the draft, the defensive line, because for me, I
Speaker 8: just need the most help there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, this is definitely the deepest. I don't remember
Speaker 2: who said it, but they compared the number of defensive
Speaker 2: linemen last year to this year and it was like
Speaker 2: twenty something last year and it's just over forty defensive
Speaker 2: linemen this year invited to the combine. So the NFL
Speaker 2: is viewing this also as a very defensive line. Rich group.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm in the camp of go seven and forty
Speaker 2: two defensive line, defensive line. If you want to get
Speaker 2: an edge at seven, or if Mason Graham falls to seven,
Speaker 2: you grab that guy and then you just go the
Speaker 2: inverse in forty two, so you get your interior guy,
Speaker 2: then you go get your edge in round two. I'm
Speaker 2: very much an advocate of that. I think this is
Speaker 2: the draft class. You got interior guys like Darius Alexand
Speaker 2: from Toledo. He's probably in that second round grouping. Let's
Speaker 2: keep scrolling down. Abdul Carter obviously would be the preferred
Speaker 2: name if you'd dropped to seven, but I like interior
Speaker 2: guys like Alfred Collins from Texas. Uh, excuse me, Donovan
Speaker 2: as AAKU from Boston College. He was an edge rusher
Speaker 2: down in Senior Bowl who had a good week.
Speaker 4: And then.
Speaker 2: Oh, Mike Green. So if Mike Green would be a
Speaker 2: guy where seven, yeah, sure the value might not say
Speaker 2: it's the pick. It's probably reach there. But if you
Speaker 2: want to get cute and drop down three four picks
Speaker 2: to pick ten to eleven, twelve and then go get
Speaker 2: Mike Green, that's probably dead on where his value is.
Speaker 2: But if you're going to try to get cute for
Speaker 2: four picks, you might as well just take your guy there.
Speaker 2: And dude, Mike Green is a special prospect. I know
Speaker 2: the clip of him versus Josh Conerly is going viral,
Speaker 2: But Conory was playing out a position that day, that's
Speaker 2: right tackle. He normally plays left tackles, so they put
Speaker 2: the offensive lineman in a bad position in those drills.
Speaker 2: But Mike Green's most If you match that up with
Speaker 2: a Will McDonald and a Jermaine Johnson, that's truly a
Speaker 2: scary trio. So yeah, I'm all for d line in
Speaker 2: rounds one and two, to be completely honest.
Speaker 1: Wow, nice June, Thanks for all the conversation.
Speaker 2: I appreciate.
Speaker 1: There, there we go, and we found out Dylan's age.
Speaker 1: There we go, check that off the bucket. Let's all right,
Speaker 1: let's go back ten years older than he thought. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest, it's at least thirty years older than
Speaker 1: I thought. That's that's neither here nor there, I suppose.
Speaker 1: Any who, let's go back to the fella outeer got indeed,
Speaker 1: jets joining us next? What's updy?
Speaker 9: Good morning, gentlemen, Good morning. I hear you're from South Carolina.
Speaker 2: What part I'm not from? But I lived in Spartanburg
Speaker 2: for abo and a half years and then in five
Speaker 2: more weeks I'm actually moving back down to Spartanburg. So
Speaker 2: I've been kind of bouncing back and forth between New
Speaker 2: Jersey and Spartanburg the last like eight years.
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, I'm I'm near the rock Hill area, so
Speaker 9: you know that's the north side yet.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, So you know, I really like that the Will
Speaker 9: Howard pick. I think that's that's where we need to go.
Speaker 9: But tell me what you think of bringing in at
Speaker 9: Daniel Jones and pairing him with Will Howard.
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones specifically scares the crap out of me.
Speaker 9: That is that's a Jets move right there.
Speaker 2: Yes, No, that would definitely scream we don't learn from
Speaker 2: our mistakes and we're just gonna watch the Crosstown team
Speaker 2: screw it up and then think we can be the
Speaker 2: ones to save it. I think his best option was
Speaker 2: to probably be in Minnesota to finish out the year,
Speaker 2: be around a competent coaching staff. Daniel Jones is probably
Speaker 2: done in the NFL for me, Like, I don't see
Speaker 2: him being a real starter in the league. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: done as a starter. It's just wanted to not enough.
Speaker 2: They Jets wanted to bring him in and say, compete
Speaker 2: with Tyrod as the backup behind somebody. Sure, but now,
Speaker 2: how many quarterbacks are you adding to the room. You
Speaker 2: can't add justin fields. Daniel Jones and Rookie have four
Speaker 2: quarterbacks with Tarad and all compete with each other. I
Speaker 2: still think somebody will give him a try, maybe just
Speaker 2: a camp, you know, try out and at least compete
Speaker 2: for the second spot. But I would hope it's not
Speaker 2: the Jets, to be honest, We've just seen too much
Speaker 2: of a sample size where he's not gonna be our
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold well, you know.
Speaker 9: And and they kind of said that about Baker for
Speaker 9: you know, a few years ago too, though, And so
Speaker 9: I mean, I wouldn't be I would laugh if they
Speaker 9: did it, but I'd also understand too.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think there's there's reasons to feel better about
Speaker 2: it than like a complete unknown like Hendon Hooker.
Speaker 9: Or something like that that would absolutely be a waste, yeah,
Speaker 9: or or even a damas Winston. I would think I
Speaker 9: would take Daniel Jones over Winston. Other than the entertainment
Speaker 9: factor of you know, we could probably throw from thirty
Speaker 9: thirty touchdowns and thirty interceptions.
Speaker 2: Again, yeah, do you want thirty interceptions to come with
Speaker 2: funny postgame press conferences or do you want thirty interceptions
Speaker 2: to come with disgruntled Daniel Jones? So, yeah, I can
Speaker 2: see it.
Speaker 1: I can see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: So my next question is, Okay, so we have a
Speaker 9: defensive minded coach again, and I hear you say, you
Speaker 9: know you you would like to go for a defensive
Speaker 9: lineman and and a and an end for the first
Speaker 9: first round or two. And my thought is is the
Speaker 9: exact opposite, because I think I Aaron Glenn did some
Speaker 9: amazing things with all the injuries that he had up
Speaker 9: in Detroit, So I think that he could take a
Speaker 9: third round prospect, defensive defensive lineman, the big guy from Kentucky.
Speaker 9: I think he's like three forty.
Speaker 2: Oh Dion Walker.
Speaker 9: Yeah, John Walker, you know you might be able to
Speaker 9: get him in a later round and a guy like
Speaker 9: Aaron Glenn and his staff could turn him into a.
Speaker 1: Yes, so you don't need to high pick. So that's
Speaker 1: what you're saying.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And and and let's focus on what we've always
Speaker 9: lacked over the years some offensive weapons and continue to
Speaker 9: you know, we don't We don't necessarily need the defensive
Speaker 9: the high talent guys in the first round because we've
Speaker 9: got the high you know, the coaches can can bring
Speaker 9: out the best at them, just like solid did you know,
Speaker 9: but we never get we didn't have the offensive talent.
Speaker 9: And so why do you think about, you know, focusing
Speaker 9: that first round, second round on on a wide receiver combination,
Speaker 9: a wide receiver tight end. We go tight end and
Speaker 9: wide receiver vice versa, and bring some more talent in
Speaker 9: and go Okay, Now the offense has got some talent,
Speaker 9: the high end talent, and the defensive coaches bring up
Speaker 9: some of the other guys and and and and and
Speaker 9: get the best out of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's fair. I think Aaron Glenn shouldn't
Speaker 2: need eleven blue chip talents on defense to make this
Speaker 2: thing go. So, yes, I can agree going offense to
Speaker 2: a degree. My thinking with this draft class specifically is
Speaker 2: you I have to look at where the blue chip
Speaker 2: talent is and then decide where can I marry that
Speaker 2: up with my needs. So if you want to go
Speaker 2: wide receiver or tight end, I would assume you're looking
Speaker 2: at like a Teturoa McMillan or a Tyler Warren at
Speaker 2: the first round pick.
Speaker 9: I'm okay.
Speaker 2: I'm okay with McMillan at seven. I think it's a
Speaker 2: little bit of a reach, but not by much. Warren
Speaker 2: I'd probably be out on just due to positional value.
Speaker 2: My thinking is, can you find eighty percent of a
Speaker 2: prospect in rounds two or three that you're considering in
Speaker 2: round one? So to go, like to use your argument
Speaker 2: if I'm looking at Mason Graham at pick seven, but
Speaker 2: I think there's a defensive tackle in rounds two that
Speaker 2: I can get eighty percent of the production for, I
Speaker 2: would probably lean towards going defense in the second round
Speaker 2: and then change my stance in the first round. Now,
Speaker 2: you can't get cute and do that for every position,
Speaker 2: because you would talk yourself into the eighty percent version
Speaker 2: of Teturoa McMillan in the second round if that existed
Speaker 2: as well. So you have to look at where the
Speaker 2: boardlines blue chip wise versus where the Jets are picking,
Speaker 2: and to me, there's just too many blue chip defensive
Speaker 2: players in the top of this draft where you probably
Speaker 2: have to take one if they're sitting there instead of
Speaker 2: reaching for an offensive need. But in another past classes,
Speaker 2: the wide receiver position has been stacked, So I would
Speaker 2: one hundred percent agree with this if the draft class
Speaker 2: was aligned that way. I just think there's too much
Speaker 2: talent on the defensive end at the top where the
Speaker 2: Jets are picking to go against that. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: agree your your original point is absolutely true. We should
Speaker 2: be attacking blue chip offense talent and then supplementing with
Speaker 2: mid round defensive talent because that's where we know the
Speaker 2: strength of our head coaching and just defensive coaching staff is.
Speaker 9: And what do you think about an offensive lineman in
Speaker 9: that first round or two and just solidifying the right
Speaker 9: tackle right from the very beginning.
Speaker 2: I'm okay with it. I like Will Campbell a lot.
Speaker 2: Some people think he's going to be more of a
Speaker 2: guard at the next level, so it's a bit of
Speaker 2: a tough one. Again, where the board lines up with
Speaker 2: the position and the Jets needs, you're probably looking at
Speaker 2: a bigger gap between him and like the ariante urseries
Speaker 2: of the world, So maybe you'd have to trade down
Speaker 2: to feel like you're in a good slot to get
Speaker 2: an offensive lineman. I just want the new regime to
Speaker 2: do what Joe Douglas hasn't done and find an offensive
Speaker 2: lineman outside of rounds one or the early parts of
Speaker 2: round two. Maybe find that third or fourth round tackle
Speaker 2: who can be your swing guy with developmental upside to
Speaker 2: be a starter in two years or one year when
Speaker 2: Morgan Moses leaves. So I'm okay with offensive tackle at seven.
Speaker 2: But if it's not Will Campbell, it's probably a reach.
Speaker 2: So I would again probably look elsewhere and attack that
Speaker 2: position a little bit later.
Speaker 9: All right, on the spot, are we trading up? Are
Speaker 9: we trading down? Are we staying at seven?
Speaker 2: I think they stay at seven. But if it's me,
Speaker 2: I trade up for cam Ward before I trade up
Speaker 2: for a late round guy like the Jackson dart rumor
Speaker 2: at the one, I would prefer to trade up from
Speaker 2: seven to like three to get cam Ward, then trade
Speaker 2: from forty two to thirty one to get Jackson Dark.
Speaker 2: So I would trade up for a quarterback. I think
Speaker 2: the Jets state put and then trading back for I mean,
Speaker 2: you could trade back all day. I just don't think
Speaker 2: that the Jets will find a partner.
Speaker 9: Right right, All right, appreciate you guys, good tav Absolutely.
Speaker 1: All right, thanks Cindy, I appreciate you. All right, let's
Speaker 1: go to a super chat here. We get this from
Speaker 1: Phil every time we get a super chat, Babe, we're
Speaker 1: here for my daughter's a ryludah damn straight, so Zoe,
Speaker 1: all right, let's get here, Phil ass. Thanks Phil, And
Speaker 1: by the way, we put this towards your total for
Speaker 1: a raffle ticket, so appreciate it. Where does cam Ward
Speaker 1: go in the twenty twenty sixth draft? Is he the
Speaker 1: fourth best? And I would also add in this additional
Speaker 1: question because I guess you sort of just talked about
Speaker 1: it here. But before we even get to Phil's question,
Speaker 1: cam Ward, what's your prediction of where he goes to
Speaker 1: this draft?
Speaker 2: Three to the Giants? I think is probably fair. I
Speaker 2: think shouldure Is that a floor?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 2: No, I think that's fair. I think it's fair.
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm just asking additional question. Think he goes
Speaker 1: no further like like where's the point of no? Like, okay,
Speaker 1: who go number one overall? But he won't fall further
Speaker 1: than three or something that's kind of.
Speaker 2: I hope he doesn't fall further than seven. I would
Speaker 2: say that I don't think he falls further than six,
Speaker 2: just because I think Vegas is so starved for a quarterback.
Speaker 2: Obviously things could change, they could sign Darnold, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I would say the floor for the quarterbacks at the
Speaker 2: top would hopefully be seven because if one of them
Speaker 2: staring you in the face and you have the chance,
Speaker 2: you got to just do it at this point, take
Speaker 2: the swing without having to pay for it. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I would say the ceiling is one, as floor is
Speaker 2: probably six or seven.
Speaker 1: Okay, and then let's answer Phil's question specifically. A lot
Speaker 1: of people have hyped up and we'll get there eventually.
Speaker 1: Jet fancy a sick bastards. But you know a lot
Speaker 1: of people have hyped up this future twenty twenty sixth classes.
Speaker 1: Oh baby, that's where you need to get a quarterback.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what work you've already done looking
Speaker 1: ahead to that class or what you know, but where
Speaker 1: we're cam woard go there.
Speaker 2: It's so tough. You don't know how this is gonna go.
Speaker 2: Everybody seems to already assume that arch Manning is gonna
Speaker 2: be the number one pick next year. I don't think
Speaker 2: that's anywhere close. Like Trevor Lawrence, we knew for five
Speaker 2: years that he was going to be the number one
Speaker 2: pick in his draft class whenever he finally came out
Speaker 2: of Clemson, and that was the case. I don't think
Speaker 2: that's the case with Arch Manning. And I don't know
Speaker 2: if there's other quarterbacks that are supposed to do this,
Speaker 2: Like I don't, I don't know, man, like the.
Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go this one then short, because like
Speaker 1: I think, to your point, that's incredibly difficult to say.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they're saying, oh, like Carson Beck's gonna be the
Speaker 1: number one overall pick this year, and now what are
Speaker 1: we talking about? You know, obviously he went back to college.
Speaker 1: So let's go this draft class had just happened, where
Speaker 1: six quarterbacks went in the top twelve. Where would Cam
Speaker 1: Woard have gone in this draft class that just happened.
Speaker 1: We just had Bo Nicks and all these other you know,
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears kid, Caleb Williams, Jane Danners all that.
Speaker 1: Where would Cam have gone in that class?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think that's probably the easier question. And
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Phil, I mean, it's just so hard to guess,
Speaker 2: like the unknown, but I would say that he would
Speaker 2: probably be fourth in twenty twenty four, you have Caleb Williams,
Speaker 2: Jaydeon Daniels, Drake May, whatever order you want to put
Speaker 2: him in. I know some people were Drake May was
Speaker 2: number one for them, so I would say fourth. I
Speaker 2: think he's probably gonna be looked at a little bit
Speaker 2: better than JJ McCarthy and a little bit better than
Speaker 2: Bo Nicks. It seemed like Sean Payton just loved bo
Speaker 2: Nicks and he wasn't gonna take no for an answer,
Speaker 2: so it seemed like that was the cliche it only
Speaker 2: takes one team with Bo Knicks, and that that seemed
Speaker 2: to obviously be a hit for them so far. So
Speaker 2: I would have to say QB four would maybe be
Speaker 2: where his consensus ranking is. Of course, that is, you know,
Speaker 2: so team dependent that the Jets could have him six
Speaker 2: so or the Patriots could have him two or whatever.
Speaker 2: So I would say comfortably four. But now that I'm
Speaker 2: looking at the names for next year, dude, he might
Speaker 2: even be one like Drew Holler to me, like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, if Drew Aller he could have a good year,
Speaker 2: we could have a down year. Kid Klubnik from Clemson,
Speaker 2: I don't really love Moss Miller usc LSU's Garrett Nussmeyer.
Speaker 2: Like they're okay quarterbacks, but like it's so hard to project,
Speaker 2: and any of these guys could have like the Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow type year in Oh, you were sure he went
Speaker 2: from a third round pick to the first overall.
Speaker 1: Jade Daniels, Right, yeah, exactly, So.
Speaker 2: You just never know. So it's too early to tell,
Speaker 2: but I'd say he's probably I mean, he's in the
Speaker 2: top tier of next year's group, but last year's group,
Speaker 2: I think he would probably be the first one of
Speaker 2: that second tier for sure.
Speaker 1: All Right, I see Taylor Sterling said, I just dropped
Speaker 1: in and y'all are talking about upstate South Carolina, my
Speaker 1: neck of the winch. And we had three former South
Speaker 1: Carolinians or current on the show. I lived in South
Speaker 1: Carolina for a long time, in Goose Creek and Somerville,
Speaker 1: Baby AJ Green wherever you are go, green Wave there
Speaker 1: we go for AJ Green being in my town at Somerville.
Speaker 2: I talked about I talked about moving down into twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: So the first two guys that I scouted that year
Speaker 2: were Quinn Williams, because I knew the Jets were in
Speaker 2: range to take him. And then the second player I
Speaker 2: scouted was Deebo Samuel, who was literally from the eight
Speaker 2: six four Spartanburg.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's thought.
Speaker 2: It was so cool, and then I immediately just fell
Speaker 2: in love because he was a great player.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing. All right, Dylan, I know we've well
Speaker 1: went the pastor timer. We have more callers. Do you
Speaker 1: want to dimp or do you want to stick around?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do one more?
Speaker 1: Okay, well, one more all right, Philly, because you've been
Speaker 1: waiting the longest cup of Philly noodles. You're up.
Speaker 9: What's going on?
Speaker 5: Man, Dylan?
Speaker 1: You look like my white cousin.
Speaker 2: That's a good point.
Speaker 1: Look at this. What the hell.
Speaker 5: I'm in North Carolina, Charlotte right now, so it's almost fitting.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Charlotte.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna need that. We're going to need some
Speaker 1: sort of a DNA test. Happened here.
Speaker 5: We know.
Speaker 2: The difference is he didn't want Rogers and I did.
Speaker 2: So it sounds very brotherly though, to have one polar opposite.
Speaker 5: Right, so I related it has to be you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. All Right, just a few things are
Speaker 5: good across Tannet k string or extreme. I think a
Speaker 5: lot of the nuance of what's going on with him
Speaker 5: is that it looked like the Lions weren't ready to
Speaker 5: keep him after Ben Johnson left, so it makes people
Speaker 5: weary about him. But he's been around QB since two
Speaker 5: thousand and nine in his entire career, so I'm not
Speaker 5: worried about that. What I'd like to know over, like
Speaker 5: the nuggets that we don't get is the war room stuff.
Speaker 5: Where could him and that staff could have been with
Speaker 5: QBS ranked over these few years recently?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: We know they took Hooker as a project because he
Speaker 5: has a cannon, so they valued the arms still the
Speaker 5: arm talent. He is mobile, but the arm talent is
Speaker 5: what I think stood out. And he was on a
Speaker 5: run for Heisman during that year, so to me, they
Speaker 5: got a value, right, So I want to know who
Speaker 5: did they valuate the last two years? We don't know, right,
Speaker 5: So those are things like if you get those nuggets
Speaker 5: out of these guys, you'll figure out what they like,
Speaker 5: kind of like like bo Nicks, Sean Payton, Tempayne married
Speaker 5: himself to him, right, But Muji would have you know,
Speaker 5: Moojie in that whole staff would have never been like
Speaker 5: whatever you want, Sean Payne, or maybe they did, but
Speaker 5: it worked out. So you know what I mean, I
Speaker 5: think I've been saying it. I think Mujie's got the
Speaker 5: he's got the cohones, he's got the grapefruits. And he
Speaker 5: put him out there and he said, Aron, you're not
Speaker 5: that belt guy no more. You're not flashing the belt.
Speaker 5: You're not in those commercials. Patrick took that from him.
Speaker 5: We were sorry, you gotta go keep it packing and
Speaker 5: we're gonna go trade up.
Speaker 2: That's what I think. In that press conference, it was
Speaker 2: like a statement.
Speaker 5: He kept looking at those cameras saying, Wood, he has
Speaker 5: said what he wants, and we know what we all
Speaker 5: want in a common goal is to win, you know, win,
Speaker 5: And it didn't look like win in five years. It
Speaker 5: meant win now and sustain that shit, keep it running.
Speaker 5: So to me, it means dropping the hammer, going up
Speaker 5: if you can't get up. To me, I feel that's
Speaker 5: where you gotta draft a d lineman at that first
Speaker 5: that first round. Then like if Mason Graham falls, snatch him.
Speaker 5: If I do a card fall, snatch him. But then
Speaker 5: to me it gets a little weird because Walker keeps
Speaker 5: falling down on draft boards.
Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone noticed that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he keeps dropping down.
Speaker 2: If he drops down, like, if you listen, he's gonna drop.
Speaker 5: I feel like the Jets should come back out, let
Speaker 5: him drop, snatch him up and see if they can
Speaker 5: use some type of movement of picks, and then come
Speaker 5: back in and grab something else. You know that you
Speaker 5: see a safety corner, you know, because the safety room
Speaker 5: is atrocious. I don't think people are realizing how bad
Speaker 5: it is. And I don't think Glenn is just gonna
Speaker 5: sit there and be like, I'll make do with with what.
Speaker 5: There's nothing there, man, Ashton Davis, Let's be honest with himself.
Speaker 5: You know, that's not that's not that's not a leader
Speaker 5: on that side of the ball.
Speaker 1: So I kind of weary.
Speaker 5: I'm kind of weary about what's going to happen one
Speaker 5: hundred percent. What they feel together in that war room now.
Speaker 5: The only thing I want to know from you, one
Speaker 5: hundred percent. From the Senior Bowl two positions, How deep
Speaker 5: does that tight end class really look that we just
Speaker 5: say forget warn because it's too too heavy of a
Speaker 5: draft pick and wide receivers, did anybody stand out at all.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, so I'll go tight ends first. That
Speaker 2: was definitely the deeper class. At the Senior Bowl. You
Speaker 2: had guys like Elijah Royo who just showed off his
Speaker 2: ability to catch strong hands, especially in the like the
Speaker 2: team red zone period. He had a play where he
Speaker 2: snatched it over the DB's head and then he turned
Speaker 2: around and punted the ball into the practice stands. So
Speaker 2: I thought that was all.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, although it's not the blocking type tight end that
Speaker 2: I know we absolutely need, I think Elijah Royo is
Speaker 2: a fun one to watch. Bowling Green's Harold another guy
Speaker 2: where you could probably get in the third or fourth
Speaker 2: round who just a special talent. Again, he's six four
Speaker 2: or six three two thirty eight. Excuse me. These guys
Speaker 2: probably aren't gonna be your blocking types. But if you
Speaker 2: wanted the blocking type, you go get a Jackson Hawes
Speaker 2: from Georgia Tech. And that's, you know, everything that we
Speaker 2: were promised with Rucker and then some I think, you know,
Speaker 2: you're not gonna get much of an upside in the
Speaker 2: past game, but this guy's gonna dog you out in
Speaker 2: the run game. He's gonna kick you out of the club.
Speaker 2: Be An extension of their offensive line. I know the
Speaker 2: the Lions used Dan Skipper as our sixth offensive lineman,
Speaker 2: but we have a we have their tight ends coach
Speaker 2: now is our offensive line coach, So maybe they put
Speaker 2: emphasis on blocking tight ends so that we can use
Speaker 2: eligibles to block instead. So I like Jackson Hawes a
Speaker 2: little bit. And then a sneaky guy who I think
Speaker 2: is a bit of a tweener at six five, two
Speaker 2: sixty five is Maliki Matavo from UCLA. I think he
Speaker 2: could do a little bit of both. So there's definitely
Speaker 2: some options just from the Senior Bowl that I like. Now,
Speaker 2: a wide receiver gets a little bit trickier. This is,
Speaker 2: I guess, considered a down year comparatively to the you know,
Speaker 2: massive wide receiver classes we've seen in history. But the
Speaker 2: top guy to me is Jack besh Uh six' one
Speaker 2: two twelve. He just had a monster year. A week
Speaker 2: excuse me, down immobile. He caught a touchdown in almost
Speaker 2: every day of team period. He ended up catching the
Speaker 2: game winning touchdown at the end of the game for
Speaker 2: the American team, and I think just his story goes
Speaker 2: a long way because his brother was tragically killed in
Speaker 2: New Orleans during the terror attack right before, so everybody
Speaker 2: was like, you know, they had the seven patch on
Speaker 2: the back for his brother. I think his name was Tiger,
Speaker 2: and it was just a cool moment for him to
Speaker 2: like celebrate with his family after the game because it
Speaker 2: was like exactly a month since his brother passed. So
Speaker 2: Jack Besh is one who is a big riser. I
Speaker 2: had no idea who he was going down and he
Speaker 2: just put himself on the map and now he's like
Speaker 2: a top forty five pick, So like, I think he's
Speaker 2: well in that range. Jaden Higgins uh six three, two
Speaker 2: seventeen from Iowa State. He's the to me, one of
Speaker 2: the perfect compliments to Garrett Wilson just from a size profile,
Speaker 2: but he's also a smooth mover. He had an inside
Speaker 2: slot route where he cooked the dB on a free release,
Speaker 2: just a little stutter step and got out and he
Speaker 2: had like four yards of separation in the one on
Speaker 2: one period. So I like Jayden Higgins from Iowa State.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to give taller profiles of widers I can.
Speaker 2: I can give you Jalen Royals from Utah State who's
Speaker 2: five eleven two ten and just say, oh, this is
Speaker 2: the the Deebo Samuel type of the draft. I don't
Speaker 2: think that way, but everybody loves to cling to those,
Speaker 2: and I just don't think the Jets are gonna covet
Speaker 2: that having Malachi Corley. So another uh, I guess bigger
Speaker 2: body wide receiver Horace bru McCoy from Tennessee six two
Speaker 2: two fifteen. He didn't really do anything like exceptionally well
Speaker 2: at Senior Bowl, but he did everything to an okay
Speaker 2: level in my opinions. So it's not the star studded
Speaker 2: blue chip five deep at the top of wide receiver.
Speaker 2: You're probably going to have to get cute in rounds
Speaker 2: two through four. But I definitely think that there is
Speaker 2: potential to pair a free agent wide receiver with a
Speaker 2: draft wide receiver.
Speaker 5: Now in your opinion, this will be the last question
Speaker 5: I asked you, and I've had backlast year against this
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers when he you know, he seen Corley in
Speaker 5: camp a little bit, saw him on the you know,
Speaker 5: practice squad. Then he saw him on the field, dropped
Speaker 5: up ball for that touchdown. They had him. I think
Speaker 5: maybe two other games, run a couple of routes. Do
Speaker 5: you think he was a victim partially of the Rogers.
Speaker 5: We can't have this guy in the field. Just give
Speaker 5: me Gibson because he doesn't you know, he won't do
Speaker 5: that full of shit that he did. Excuse my language,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like because in my mind,
Speaker 5: I want to know it looks like Coraley. Then if
Speaker 5: you understand what you just went through, Coraley stands out
Speaker 5: as a higher prospect still than these guys that are
Speaker 5: coming out this year.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Yeah, I think I
Speaker 2: think Joe Douglass would definitely say that maybe Malchai Cora
Speaker 2: would be wide receiver one in this class based on
Speaker 2: where we have last year. I think, yeah, I think
Speaker 2: Malachi Coral was like the perfect storm of bad circumstances
Speaker 2: for him. I mean, you have a coaching staff that's
Speaker 2: just completely incompetent, that can't use you properly. And I'm
Speaker 2: not saying he needs to do the Elijah More orbit
Speaker 2: motion under Mike Lafleur eighty seven percent of the time,
Speaker 2: even if he never touches the ball. But if I
Speaker 2: saw that play happened five times a game and Malchai
Speaker 2: got the ball one or two times out of those
Speaker 2: live I wouldn't mind it, right. I think a lot
Speaker 2: of stock was put into him fumbling the ball at
Speaker 2: the goal line. And then we heard the maturity quotes
Speaker 2: from the coaches, which you never want to hear. But
Speaker 2: I just think everybody in the building last year was
Speaker 2: to be candid, immature, like coaching staff, players, front office,
Speaker 2: clearly if you were moping. So I think it was
Speaker 2: just a set of poor circumstances. And now you have
Speaker 2: a guy like Engstrand who used I'm on raw and
Speaker 2: Jamison Williams and all their their their two running backs
Speaker 2: excuse me, gibbson Montgomery. So I think there's a chance
Speaker 2: that Mali Corley is still special. I loved him in
Speaker 2: the draft, so I'm not gonna, you know, throw my
Speaker 2: bias into this so it's more weight and see. But
Speaker 2: I would definitely not, you know, count him as wide
Speaker 2: receiver two. But I definitely wouldn't say, Okay, he's gonna
Speaker 2: get cut by camp and somebody off the street is
Speaker 2: going to take his job. I think he could be
Speaker 2: a wide receiver three for this team, competent.
Speaker 1: And Philly real quick. Like, we can't just blame that
Speaker 1: being the problem that Texans game that Jets texts gamp
Speaker 1: was on Halloween. What happened the first insert amount of
Speaker 1: weeks of the season. We're mal poor, which m I A,
Speaker 1: So I can't. I don't think that could solely be
Speaker 1: to blame.
Speaker 2: For the And we're talking about we're talking about coaching.
Speaker 2: We're talking about coaching staff that didn't use Garrett Wilson
Speaker 2: properly for the first two or three weeks of his career.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I bought my young daughter at the time, who's who's
Speaker 1: much old and and I'm like, let's go to the
Speaker 1: Jets Raven season opener. I'm going to show you Garrett
Speaker 1: Wilson in person. I brought my family there. It was
Speaker 1: raining to all hell, I did the tickets wrong where
Speaker 1: we're right in front of the rain, so just as
Speaker 1: the rain was coming down, it was pouring on our
Speaker 1: heads and the layover water was coming over, and the
Speaker 1: seat right behind us was bone dry, and some my
Speaker 1: fiantas just looking at me like and then Garret Wilson
Speaker 1: didn't even start the game. I'm like, what the hell?
Speaker 1: So you had that one?
Speaker 5: That was it? How about how about does do you think?
Speaker 5: Oh man, I will love it. You think we go
Speaker 5: and get a Debo or Cup and get rid of
Speaker 5: Corley in a pick.
Speaker 2: I would hope not. I don't think you want to
Speaker 2: get rid of to Richard. I think so, But you
Speaker 2: don't want to get seven years older at the position
Speaker 2: when you're giving away an unknown commodity like Malcolm Corley
Speaker 2: could easily have a really good career and maybe even
Speaker 2: a potentially better career than those two. I mean, Cooper
Speaker 2: Cup had the one thousand yard season and then struggled
Speaker 2: to stay healthy. Deebo kind of the same thing. He
Speaker 2: had that one I was in yard season, and then
Speaker 2: ever since they put the running back stuff into his contract,
Speaker 2: they'd stopped using him like that. So like you used
Speaker 2: your guy how he should be used, got the best results,
Speaker 2: and then decided to say Nan never mind. So they're
Speaker 2: both over thirty, they both had injuries. I would just
Speaker 2: keep the young guy and save the picks come for
Speaker 2: Thank you, gentlemen, Thank you Jill.
Speaker 1: For joining us. Dylan. Thanks, there's more callers. I'll answer
Speaker 1: all those, but I'll let you get away. Remember I'm
Speaker 1: gonna still need that intel. Either call me later or
Speaker 1: I'll give you a smoke signal. Something. I got to
Speaker 1: hear that senior bull story. Who the hell were you
Speaker 1: talking about?
Speaker 2: So private chat? People can see it? Correct?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah they can't. Yeah, so do not put it
Speaker 1: in there. Yeah right now, I just say, please do
Speaker 1: not put there that people can see that. Yes, uh yeah,
Speaker 1: people that called to the show and go, oh, that's
Speaker 1: what he was talking about. So I appreciate that. Oh yes,
Speaker 1: real quick, before we get you out of here. A
Speaker 1: lot of people asking where can we follow Dylan? So Dylan,
Speaker 1: give all the plug shut out June and thank you
Speaker 1: for that. Deil. Where can everyone follow you on social
Speaker 1: media to hear more of your great takes? We really
Speaker 1: enjoyed you on the show today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, follow me at Dylan at Deterament excuse me down
Speaker 2: the bottom of the screen there under my name, or
Speaker 2: you can just follow us at jet Nation on all
Speaker 2: social media platforms Twitter, Instagram, YouTube. We probably still have
Speaker 2: our MySpace up and running because we've been around.
Speaker 4: For so long.
Speaker 2: So get nation dot com, get in the forums. It's
Speaker 2: kind of a wild place to be. You'll see any
Speaker 2: take that you could find under the sun about this team, good,
Speaker 2: bad and different. And yeah, just keep following me on
Speaker 2: Twitter and I'll be putting out draft profiles probably once
Speaker 2: the combine is done. I got the Will Howard video
Speaker 2: ready to upload once I get the combine stats, because
Speaker 2: I need to know full measurables before I can commit.
Speaker 2: Because if his hand size is like eight and a
Speaker 2: half inches and he's well under the threshold, I got
Speaker 2: to change a lot of my evaluations. So yeah, at
Speaker 2: determent and I'm happy to engage with most jests fans.
Speaker 1: And last one, Jet Nation Radio. Again, you are a
Speaker 1: coached of that as well. Well. When is Jet Nation Radio?
Speaker 1: When during the week, what days, what times? Give us
Speaker 1: all the details.
Speaker 2: So Glenn will put out a solo video randomly whenever
Speaker 2: he feels. But our normal weekly show is Thursdays at
Speaker 2: eight pm on our YouTube channel. So check us out
Speaker 2: at Jet Nation. We're we're not quite up to the
Speaker 2: caller level yet because let's just say we we we
Speaker 2: keep our opinions in house. We don't like to always
Speaker 2: have outside opinions, but we love interacting with the group chat.
Speaker 2: We had a we had a bad interaction with a
Speaker 2: caller once before.
Speaker 1: Twitter DM.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be left a bad taste in Jet Nation's mouth.
Speaker 2: So we're a little restrictive, but we will interact with
Speaker 2: anybody that chats in the in the live chats, so
Speaker 2: check us out Jet Nation eight pm Live, Glenn Naughton
Speaker 2: and myself.
Speaker 1: All right, beautiful Dylan, thank you so much for taking
Speaker 1: the time, and I imagine this will be your last
Speaker 1: appearance on Boy Green Daily.
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Paul, all right, there he is Dylan terror Man. Make
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Speaker 6: So Johnny by James going on broad good morning.
Speaker 1: Hey, good to see you first and foremost.
Speaker 6: Oh you already know it. Man, Hey, you shout out
Speaker 6: to my space, bro my man. Throwback on that.
Speaker 1: That brought memories. That brought a lot of memories there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I hope he's your hope you're on his uh
Speaker 6: top five list.
Speaker 1: That's what I was about to say. That's what I
Speaker 1: was just about to say. You know, especially with this age,
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that he knew what my Space was.
Speaker 1: But yeah, there you go for Dylan Tairman. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that I was in the top five. I
Speaker 1: was the featured five of his profile pitch. That's what
Speaker 1: it was opened. Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 10: Major throwback on that now. I was calling because I
Speaker 10: wanted to pick his brain on you know, pieces that
Speaker 10: I think that are very needed in the for the
Speaker 10: football team itself that we're not talking really much about,
Speaker 10: because I think it's just.
Speaker 6: You know, QB QB, qb, qb QB and D.
Speaker 10: But the linebacking, like, what are the what are the
Speaker 10: players that are out there? What about the safety? Philly
Speaker 10: kind of hit on it a little bit, right because
Speaker 10: I think that's a big need and that and then
Speaker 10: the corners, Like I've been doing a little bit more
Speaker 10: in regards to that. You know a name that I
Speaker 10: like a lot that nobody and I think he's a
Speaker 10: he's a linebacker that there's a the potential be something.
Speaker 10: The kid out of out of Dame Jack Kisser, he
Speaker 10: was one of the finalists for the Campbell Award and whatnot.
Speaker 10: You know, a lot of those players are very smart
Speaker 10: up here. So that's a player that I would like
Speaker 10: is nice. I can never pronounce the name bro Allay
Speaker 10: something or the Dago or whatever it is. But Jalen
Speaker 10: Reid as a safety, I don't know if you guys
Speaker 10: have done any research in regards to him. He's another
Speaker 10: player that I believe we should try to look at
Speaker 10: what you get in the later rounds. But I wanted
Speaker 10: to get your thoughts beg like he there are some
Speaker 10: things that are out there that you think that's a
Speaker 10: potential look for US safeties linebacking corps as well in corner.
Speaker 6: I mean just want to get your thoughts or not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would just say wrap the top linebacker something
Speaker 1: we're not talking about at all. So Jamien sure with
Speaker 1: your free agent, so obviously got to circle him. Quincy
Speaker 1: Williams is heading into the last year of his deal.
Speaker 1: He's gonna want Buco bucks the Jets. It just worked
Speaker 1: out perfectly. They give him this deal for three years
Speaker 1: eighteen million. Everyone goes, oh, man, what an overpay on Quincy,
Speaker 1: and Quincy's immediately awesome and they were like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: what is steal? Because the top of the inside linebacker
Speaker 1: marker right now is making between twenty and nineteen million
Speaker 1: per year. That's Fred Warner and Roquan Smith. So it's
Speaker 1: twenty and nineteen million per year. Think about that for
Speaker 1: a second. So let's just call it the WATERMARKUS twenty million.
Speaker 1: Quincy Win is making six million a year, the highest
Speaker 1: pay is making twenty million a year. So Quincy's gonna
Speaker 1: want a bag. Are the Jets going to pay him? Oh?
Speaker 1: I got no freaking clue whether they're gonna pay him.
Speaker 1: What about CJ. Moseley. He's probably gonna retire or maybe
Speaker 1: even get released, and if he gets cut, he might
Speaker 1: be a June one post cut. If they did that,
Speaker 1: the Jets would say four million dollars, but they eat
Speaker 1: eight point seven eight million in dead cap. You're only
Speaker 1: allowed to designate two players as post June one cut,
Speaker 1: so if they pick Rogers's one, CJ. Moses the other,
Speaker 1: they'd run out of post June one designations. Another possibility
Speaker 1: for that is al Onlazart. So one hundred percent you
Speaker 1: need linebacker. No one's talking about Johnny That one hundred
Speaker 1: percent is a need because again, you have to have
Speaker 1: foresight you're not. That's also a communistconception of the draft.
Speaker 1: It's not like like, obviously quarterback, we need a quarterback,
Speaker 1: but like running back like Breece Hall, what are you
Speaker 1: doing with him? Whether he's coming back or not a
Speaker 1: year from now, determines what you're needing for that. So
Speaker 1: you're not just drafting for twenty twenty five, you're drafting
Speaker 1: for the future. The GM is thinking multiple steps ahead
Speaker 1: of roster construction, and linebacker is a massive one that
Speaker 1: they one hundred percent need. I'll be curious if they
Speaker 1: try to bring Jamian back. Obviously there's no more ties
Speaker 1: to his coaching staff, but he's a young player with
Speaker 1: a lot of upside who is top three in tackles
Speaker 1: this year. Linebackers super interesting. Obviously mentioned safety in that
Speaker 1: entire room is being burned down to the ground. I
Speaker 1: mean they were Chuck Clark, Ashton Davis, Tony Adams is
Speaker 1: restricted free agent. We'll see if the Jets end up
Speaker 1: bringing him back. By the way, salute to real O'Connor
Speaker 1: long that's out there in the comments section just joining
Speaker 1: us this morning. Appreciates you. Salute to Connor. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so the safety and linebacker rum or two positions, the
Speaker 1: safety and particular is gonna get lit on fire and
Speaker 1: corner to your point, you have sauce is Brandon Echole's
Speaker 1: coming back? DJ Reach guy, you got sauce in Michael
Speaker 1: Carter the second the rest room is blown up. And
Speaker 1: then it depends on what you feel about Quante Sticker. So,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, there's a lot more holes on that defense,
Speaker 1: and people are talking about exactly exactly.
Speaker 10: So those are like the stuff that I kind of
Speaker 10: want to at least for myself, that I want to
Speaker 10: hear in regards to that.
Speaker 6: So that's what I wanted to ask Dylan in regards
Speaker 6: to that.
Speaker 10: The other thing too, you kind of hit it the
Speaker 10: running back, right, Bro, I would love to take a
Speaker 10: swing at a scat and bow from.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah the Arizona Kid.
Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, yeah, like if it is with the whole
Speaker 10: bree stuff and maybe he doesn't get signed back up
Speaker 10: or I don't know whatever, right, I mean, I think
Speaker 10: we're good with the RB. I really like Braylon Allen
Speaker 10: a lot, you know, the big type of bruising type
Speaker 10: of running back in regards I love Breeze, don't get
Speaker 10: it twisted, but that I don't know. Man, that dude
Speaker 10: puts another dynamic into that running back corps with him
Speaker 10: and Isaiah Davis as well.
Speaker 6: So appreciate you beg as always. Man wanted to come through,
Speaker 6: show some love.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Dylan was killing it man real tall. So yeah, man,
Speaker 6: keep doing anything, Bro.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you. There you go, Johnny boy, I appreciate you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dylan's still in the chat. Yeah, I will say for me,
Speaker 1: this is Dylan's first time on Boy Green Daily. Awesome
Speaker 1: to have him. I thought he was super insightful. Brought
Speaker 1: a lot to the table. I'd love to have doing
Speaker 1: on more often, schedule, pending for doing, and all the
Speaker 1: other work and things that he has going on. So
Speaker 1: that was wonderful. So, like I said, we'll go back
Speaker 1: and I'll talk to Dylan. I'll see all the dirty
Speaker 1: secrets you could say on Aaron tell me privately, and
Speaker 1: I will never share those with you people, but I
Speaker 1: will get a good smile out of it, and then
Speaker 1: we'll see if we can have doing back on the show.
Speaker 1: Because that was that was That was a real treat.
Speaker 1: Dylan was amazing. All right, let's go back to the phone,
Speaker 1: n y jets fl here on the show. What's up? Ten?
Speaker 3: All, good morning.
Speaker 7: I thought about you this morning when I came into
Speaker 7: my firework trailer, and I'll show you what I mean.
Speaker 5: You can see this.
Speaker 1: Okay wait, wait uh wait oz I see oz Rock.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, a little you can see the picture on
Speaker 3: the box.
Speaker 1: Oh wright, scroll down a little or not scroll down,
Speaker 1: just move your phone down a little bit. Oh there
Speaker 1: you go. Look at that guy. Eh.
Speaker 3: I think they stuck. I think they stole your image
Speaker 3: on that firework boxes.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have to do a trademark appeal there,
Speaker 1: but we'll have that conversation off there with our lawyers.
Speaker 3: Firstly, shout out to June and GM June.
Speaker 7: When you start your channel, which it sounds like you
Speaker 7: do in the legwork for that, I will I will
Speaker 7: sub to it.
Speaker 4: Paul.
Speaker 7: We're gonna have a very uncomfortable conversation about Wilson being.
Speaker 3: Traded and I'm not advocating for it.
Speaker 7: I'm not advocating for it, but he unfortunately, he came
Speaker 7: he came in at the wrong time, and now we're
Speaker 7: kind of in a state of fluck and I'm not
Speaker 7: sure where that puts Garrett, especially if Garrett's gonna play
Speaker 7: with Jameis Winston. I don't know how happy it's gonna
Speaker 7: be about that and playing behind it developmental quart up,
Speaker 7: you know, with a developmental developed, developmental quarterback.
Speaker 3: That's the only thing I'm really concerned with. I'm seeing a.
Speaker 7: Lot of chatter about Carolina trying to use number eight
Speaker 7: to get Garrett and possibly didn't have to sweeten that
Speaker 7: with a second or a third. Like I said, I'm
Speaker 7: not advocating for it. This is a business, but unfortunately
Speaker 7: Garrett was drafted and kind of the wrong ear for us,
Speaker 7: you know or not.
Speaker 3: It didn't work out, so I wanted your opinion on that.
Speaker 3: Let's start with that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so as intriguing as a top ten pick and
Speaker 1: whatever else would come in, Garrett is a special time.
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. With the quarterback uncertainty and
Speaker 1: everything that we've had for Garrett coming in, you know,
Speaker 1: it would it have been perfect if we had I
Speaker 1: don't know, insert your favorite Jets quarterback in history and
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson being paired with so his talents and everything
Speaker 1: are maximized. Of course, to me, I want to keep
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson at all costs. Ritz Siman he just had
Speaker 1: a piece that dropped this morning that Garrett Wilson's chances
Speaker 1: of sticking around with the team have dramatically increased with
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers gone, And I thought that was fascinating that
Speaker 1: he put that in there. So that which again obviously
Speaker 1: means the exodus of DeVante Adams and things of that nature.
Speaker 1: I'll be curious because I think Garrett Wilson should be
Speaker 1: a part of the quarterback conversation in terms of, like
Speaker 1: when we're kind of Vet and I don't think ag
Speaker 1: is going to do this obviously, with he's cracking the whip.
Speaker 1: I don't think this is going to be a factor.
Speaker 1: But I just hope that we get a quarterback that
Speaker 1: gives Garrett Wilson chances. That's why Jameis Winston is a
Speaker 1: crazy bastard. But boy, he takes vertical shots, which I
Speaker 1: would love to see. We haven't seen a lot of
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson eighty yard bombs to the house. I got
Speaker 1: to see being in Dallas. I got to see the
Speaker 1: Jets Cowboys game where Garrett Wilson took a slant and
Speaker 1: booked it to the his on his own ability, not
Speaker 1: some great design where he was wide open. Garrett just
Speaker 1: made a play. But I would love to see more
Speaker 1: shots where we're able to see that part of his game.
Speaker 1: We see it for all the other top receivers in
Speaker 1: football to get these bomb touchdowns. Garrett doesn't get those
Speaker 1: ops very often. So I wonder if Jameis Winston would
Speaker 1: be exciting to him because he's got a rocket arm.
Speaker 1: He's going to turn it all over God's Earth. But
Speaker 1: you know, it would be interesting to see that because
Speaker 1: I just don't like Tyrod takes shots. But again, it's
Speaker 1: hard to really have a good judgment on Tyrod. We
Speaker 1: haven't seen him in full flower in like seven years,
Speaker 1: so what kind of quarterback is he still?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 1: It's really impossible to say what we're going to see.
Speaker 1: I just hope we get a quarterback that gives Garrett opportunities.
Speaker 1: And obviously it's going to be the clear wide receiver one.
Speaker 1: This room is about to blow up. DeVante is going
Speaker 1: to be gone, Lazard's going to be gone. You know,
Speaker 1: top three receivers are about to be Xavior Gibson, Malachi Corley,
Speaker 1: and Garrett Wilson. God help us all. So we need
Speaker 1: some more happening in that room. But again, intriguing offer
Speaker 1: that you present from Carolina, And why wouldn't I agree
Speaker 1: with you? Carolina would be it would be desperate enough
Speaker 1: to give all kinds of things because they want to
Speaker 1: surround Brightce Young with as much tone as possible, and
Speaker 1: they probably regret slapping Dj Moore on the trade to
Speaker 1: the Bear, so I'm sure they'd be willing to pay
Speaker 1: the iron price. But to me, there is no iron
Speaker 1: price that exists. I would want to get rid of
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, and maybe that's where it comes. Right, I say,
Speaker 1: there's no package available, and then someone goes like three
Speaker 1: first round picks or something crazy. I go, okay, well,
Speaker 1: let's check. Everybody's got a price million dollar man. Ha,
Speaker 1: you know every man has a price. Maybe that's it.
Speaker 1: I just haven't heard that price.
Speaker 3: True, I understand. I like I said, I'm really advocating
Speaker 3: for it. It is still a business. But you're right.
Speaker 3: I just.
Speaker 7: I don't want to foresee guy right getting a thousand
Speaker 7: yards next year and be disgruntled, you know, with Jameis Winston,
Speaker 7: say he gets a thousand yards again.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm giving you a theoretical right.
Speaker 7: You know, he may get fifteen hundred, right, I would
Speaker 7: love it if he got fifteen hundred or eighteen hundred.
Speaker 3: But if he goes out and gets a thousand yards
Speaker 3: and you know, his values going down and you see
Speaker 3: what talent he's got, I don't. I don't know how
Speaker 3: happy he's going to be. It's not a reason to
Speaker 3: trade him.
Speaker 7: It's just a reason to consider that he got drafted on,
Speaker 7: unfortunately on a bad franchise in the in the tough
Speaker 7: year for us. It was supposed to be Zach Wilson
Speaker 7: and him, you know, riding off to the sunset.
Speaker 3: So all right, Paul, Well that's all I got. I
Speaker 3: just wanted to show you my fireworkbox.
Speaker 7: So like I'm agreeing with your with your host about
Speaker 7: the drafting two defensive players in the in the in
Speaker 7: the early in the draft, I'm down with that.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 7: Oh, by the way, Carlton Davis, Carlton Davis from the
Speaker 7: Lions is a corner that as a ring is coming
Speaker 7: up a broken jaw. He played for the Bucks, got
Speaker 7: a ring, he was on the Lions staff. He's only
Speaker 7: twenty eight.
Speaker 3: That's the kind of guy I would grant immediately.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he would be an intriguing guy. I appreciate it. Yes,
Speaker 1: Carlton Davis is going to be out there. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be some rich money. Those corners are gonna get a
Speaker 1: lot of bag. So it'll be curious he's basically DJ
Speaker 1: Reid's age. That'll be curious to see if the Jets.
Speaker 1: So the Jets have a whole corner. Obviously dijer Read
Speaker 1: is leaving. Do they fill with the veteran? Do they
Speaker 1: give it a chance with a rookie? Does quantest diggers
Speaker 1: seize that role. Uh do they go after an IV
Speaker 1: two Melifano who has both corner and safety versatility. I'll
Speaker 1: be super curious to see what happens. Uh there, Uh, Walter,
Speaker 1: I see this comment coming in on the Heavy on
Speaker 1: Jets facebook page, ask about what about Jordan Travis Connor Hughes.
Speaker 1: I just saw I mentioned this a couple of days
Speaker 1: ago on a late SNYTV hit. They called them an
Speaker 1: intriguing possibility, but not someone you could consider at all
Speaker 1: in the quarterback conversation because of his injuries and the
Speaker 1: setbacks to injuries, so that one's sort of up in
Speaker 1: the air. Walter, it'd be a great random mystery, right
Speaker 1: if Jordan Travis ends up being a factor in this
Speaker 1: quarterback competition, we'll see again. Here's how the quarterback room
Speaker 1: I view it going to be in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: in some form or fashion. It's gonna be Tyron Taylor
Speaker 1: in no particular order. It's gonna be Tyron Taylor, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be Jordan Travis. There's gonna be a rookie somewhere
Speaker 1: in there. Again, it doesn't have to be someventh overall,
Speaker 1: but it will be somewhere in there. And then it's
Speaker 1: gonna wrap up with a veteran that would be competing
Speaker 1: with Tyron and maybe Jordan Travis. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: that will all be competing for that starting job. Again,
Speaker 1: it's hard to envision it for Travis. It's hard. Hell,
Speaker 1: Jordan Travis might get cut and be on the practice squad.
Speaker 1: It's all gonna depend on the development. But again, this
Speaker 1: current staff and regime has no ties to him whatsoever.
Speaker 1: From that perspective, you gonna want to give a shout
Speaker 1: out to the five hundred people in the room, like
Speaker 1: the video hit subscribe. I think we've got one more caller.
Speaker 1: Let me try this BG, Yes, sir, Oh, hey, what's up? Brother?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: I just want to why does everybody want to training
Speaker 3: Garret Wilson. I'm not trading Garret Wilson.
Speaker 1: No, We've got a lot of the fronts about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of ideas about that.
Speaker 9: Well, I'm gonna take up his fifth year often and
Speaker 9: then I'm gonna tag him, and then I'm gonna tag
Speaker 9: him again. So he is not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing I don't think, and not on Ted.
Speaker 1: He just was bringing it up. But like, the Jets
Speaker 1: are going to pick up his fifth year option in
Speaker 1: early May or sooner, so that means they would have
Speaker 1: two years left of team control minimum twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Then after that you could franchise tag
Speaker 1: him three times so the Jets could hold his rights
Speaker 1: for the next five years. So like even and again,
Speaker 1: even if Garrett Wilson were to request the trade, we
Speaker 1: have no idea if that's going to happen. But even
Speaker 1: if he did, the Jets wouldn't have to reciprocate. Say, okay, Garrett,
Speaker 1: you're the boss. We'll tend you wherever you want. Like,
Speaker 1: I hope it never reaches that point. I would give
Speaker 1: him seismic money. He's the best Jets receiver we've had
Speaker 1: production wise in his first three years of his career. Man,
Speaker 1: I want Garrett to retire a Jet. I want him
Speaker 1: to be here for his entire career. And I don't
Speaker 1: care what packages or offers come, whether we're a good team,
Speaker 1: bad team, or anything. I want Garrett Wilson on it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 9: Well who are you looking forward to in the draft.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of different visions. I'm very much looking
Speaker 1: forward to the NFL Combine. That's an event I really enjoy. Actually,
Speaker 1: I'm going to have the house alone during the combine
Speaker 1: that my family, my family in the house, my fiance
Speaker 1: and children are all going to a trip to Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to be all alone at the house
Speaker 1: doing Boy Green daily shows and combine coverage. So I'm
Speaker 1: very much looking forward to just kind of hunkering down
Speaker 1: and taking it as much intel as possible. The NFL
Speaker 1: Combine is great with Rich Eyesland, Daniel Jeremiah, they have coaches,
Speaker 1: gms and everything else. In studios you're talking about the prospects,
Speaker 1: so there should be a ton of information coming out
Speaker 1: of that. So I'm really excited. There's a bunch of
Speaker 1: Syracuse guys. I think there's that are going to be
Speaker 1: an indie. But I'm looking forward to everybody down there.
Speaker 2: Oh glad to hear it.
Speaker 3: What your wife said, you're not invited.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's exactly I should go with the in laws.
Speaker 1: So you know, hey, if I'm not invited, but you
Speaker 1: know that's that's that's the gods.
Speaker 6: So there you go, there go, there you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I was also thinking everybody wants to take the defensive
Speaker 7: tackle up at the top of the draft.
Speaker 3: It's deep, you gotta I'm one of that Stark's character.
Speaker 3: That's safety.
Speaker 1: Oh, Mal sure, yeah, Georgia, Oh, I think.
Speaker 3: I think we just we just need to run stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I love it, thanks for the call. Beg
Speaker 1: good stuff, man, I appreciate it. Yeah. I think to
Speaker 1: be honest, just to go back to Indie's point, I
Speaker 1: think you can make a strong argument both ways. Okay,
Speaker 1: So he in case you guys missed that call. So
Speaker 1: Dylan Tarreman and several others have said, hey, let's go defense.
Speaker 1: Seven and forty two. Those are the just first two picks,
Speaker 1: first round, secon round. Let's go defense and get the
Speaker 1: best players available, basically blue chip players, and then add
Speaker 1: them in. So you add those to the table. Indy
Speaker 1: called in and said, hey, man, Aaron Glenn's a defense
Speaker 1: a coach. I'm going to paraph this a little bit.
Speaker 1: He made chicken sound out of chicken shit last year
Speaker 1: and all these randos playing and the defense wasn't half bad.
Speaker 1: He doesn't need elite level talent to work. And plus,
Speaker 1: by the way, he already has it. You got saus Gardner,
Speaker 1: you got Quincy Williams. You got Quinn Williams got Well
Speaker 1: McDonald got, Jermaine Johnson got all kinds of fun talent.
Speaker 1: Michael Carter the Second got all kinds of talent on defense.
Speaker 1: He doesn't need the top picks, the top assets, the
Speaker 1: top resource to invest. Let's go in different directions and
Speaker 1: allow Aaron Glenn just to make of what he will
Speaker 1: with the roster, which, by the way, it's a compelling case, Indy,
Speaker 1: So salute to Indy for that. June the GM said,
Speaker 1: no sweet love for you that week, Paul. That's for
Speaker 1: damn sure, June. That's gonna be a lot of a
Speaker 1: loane time with BG, with all of you guys, but
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