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<v Speaker 1>You know that feeling right when your phone seems just

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<v Speaker 1>a little too smart.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you mentioned something out loud.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly like needing new running shoes, and bam, suddenly every

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<v Speaker 1>ad you see is for sneakers.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes you really stop and think.

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<v Speaker 1>It really does. Just how much of these things tracking us?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a totally legitimate concern. I mean, our phones, they're

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<v Speaker 2>basically pocket sized data collection machines, always sending out info

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<v Speaker 2>about where we are, what apps.

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<v Speaker 1>We use, our web activity, all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the big tech companies they use this stuff extensively.

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<v Speaker 1>Which brings us right to today's deep dive. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>extreme privacy for mobile devices. We're going to really get

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<v Speaker 1>into the strategies to lock down your phone, drawing heavily

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<v Speaker 1>on Michael Bizell's work, specifically a document he put together on.

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<v Speaker 2>This, and Bizell, well, he knows his stuff comes from

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<v Speaker 2>years working cybercrime with the FBI. Plus he's huge in

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<v Speaker 2>the ocent world, open source intelligence and just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>building really solid privacy plans.

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<v Speaker 1>You might know his book Extreme Privacy, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>the bible for this stuff, or maybe even from mister Robot.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a tech advisor for the first season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he helped make that show feel really authentic about

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<v Speaker 2>tech anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>So this document we're looking at today, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a focused add on to his main work, just for

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<v Speaker 1>phones exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So our goal here is to pull out Bizell's key

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<v Speaker 2>advice for setting up a mobile device that's well truly

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<v Speaker 2>private and secure.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll look at cutting down location tracking, limiting what Apple

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<v Speaker 1>and Google scoop.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, and just generally reducing how exposed you might be.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but let's set the stage here. Bizell is super

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<v Speaker 1>clear this level of privacy it's not about convenience.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, definitely not. There are trade offs. This is for

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<v Speaker 2>people who are really serious about shrinking their digital footprint

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<v Speaker 2>on mobile.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not your average user setup.

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<v Speaker 2>Not at all. Yeah. But even if you don't think

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<v Speaker 2>you're like a high risk target or anything, understanding these methods,

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<v Speaker 2>it gives you incredible insight into just how much data

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<v Speaker 2>these devices.

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<v Speaker 1>Handle and what's actually possible if you want to take

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<v Speaker 1>back some control exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's valuable knowledge either way.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's dive in then, extreme mobile privacy. Where does

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<v Speaker 1>Bizell say we start? It feels like it has to

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<v Speaker 1>begin with the phone itself right, getting it privately.

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<v Speaker 2>That's precisely it. The absolute foundation is breaking any link

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<v Speaker 2>between the new device and you right from the get go.

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<v Speaker 1>So how do we do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Bezell's main recommendation buy it new, pay with cash at

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<v Speaker 2>an actual store, a physical retail store, ah okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Avoids the credit card trail, the online order history.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, no digital breadcrumbs.

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<v Speaker 1>He even talks about using a nominee someone else to

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<v Speaker 1>buy it for you. That sounds intense.

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<v Speaker 2>It really does show the level some people might need

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<v Speaker 2>to go to, you know, if they're in a really

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<v Speaker 2>high risk situation.

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<v Speaker 1>But for most people, just trying to up their privacy game,

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<v Speaker 1>cash in person is a huge first step, the huge step.

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<v Speaker 2>And Bazill also warns pretty strongly against buying used phones.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the thinking there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess the obvious stuff could be stolen, could

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<v Speaker 1>be locked to an old account, or.

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<v Speaker 2>Still have data from the last person on there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Plus that phone already has a history tied to someone.

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<v Speaker 1>Else, right, Factory reset doesn't just wipe its.

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<v Speaker 2>Past life, not entirely, And Bazill points out even if

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<v Speaker 2>you try buying online with like fake names.

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<v Speaker 1>Or whatever, still leaves cracks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's still a shipping address, some kind of payment,

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<v Speaker 2>unique device ideas the seller locks a face to face

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<v Speaker 2>cash purchase. That's the cleanest break you can get.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So we've got our anonymously bought brand new phone.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the next big layer for privacy. It's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be the operating.

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<v Speaker 2>System, absolutely critical. And the key thing to grasp here

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<v Speaker 2>is that both major players iOS and standard Android, they

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<v Speaker 2>collect a ton of user data.

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<v Speaker 1>People often say iOS is more private out of the box.

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<v Speaker 2>And in some ways maybe it's default security settings are

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<v Speaker 2>tighter than some Android versions. But bizeld point is when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to data collection, both Apple and Google are

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<v Speaker 2>doing it a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It. He actually says he thinks Apple's constant data transmissions

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<v Speaker 1>are just as bad as Google's.

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<v Speaker 2>That's quite a statement, it is, and it's why he

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<v Speaker 2>pushes hard for using a custom ungoogled Android version as

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<v Speaker 2>the way to go for serious privacy.

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<v Speaker 1>And his top pick is Graffinios.

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<v Speaker 2>Raffinius.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, So for people maybe not familiar, what is Graphenios?

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<v Speaker 1>What makes it different?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so the main idea behind Graphenius is just stripping

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<v Speaker 2>things down, cutting out potential ways it could be attacked or.

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<v Speaker 1>Leak your data, minimizing the attack surface and data leakage.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's open source, built on Android, but really redesigned with

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<v Speaker 2>privacy and security baked in from the start. Bizelle flags

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<v Speaker 2>a few key things like what well it enforces a

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<v Speaker 2>locked bootloader. That's a big security win. Stops people messing

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<v Speaker 2>with the core system easily.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And it gives you the option. It's optional to run

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<v Speaker 2>Google Play services, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Sandboxed sandboxed, what does that mean? In practice?

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<v Speaker 2>It means they're walled off. They have very limited access

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<v Speaker 2>to the to your phone in data.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah. Okay, so you could still get notifications maybe from

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<v Speaker 1>apps that need Google stuff exactly, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's contained and crucially, Graphenios doesn't need things like MicroG

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<v Speaker 2>to handle those notifications.

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<v Speaker 1>That sandbox Google Services thing sounds like a pretty big

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<v Speaker 1>deal for usability.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a major feature. It dramatically cuts down what data

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<v Speaker 2>Google Services can actually see and Phone Home about.

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<v Speaker 1>So it limits Google's view right.

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<v Speaker 2>And Bazell also notes, look, while he focuses on Graphenios,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of these privacy ideas apply to other custom

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<v Speaker 2>de googled Android ROMs to and he.

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<v Speaker 1>Mentions buying unlocked phones. Why is that so crucial here?

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<v Speaker 2>Freedom? Simple as that an unlocked phone means you can

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<v Speaker 2>use any cell carrier you want, all right, And as

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get into later, Bizell's strategies for private cell service

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<v Speaker 2>often involve switching carriers or using specific plan types. You

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<v Speaker 2>need an unlocked phone for that flexibility.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, unlocked new phone acquired privately. Now the slightly skilled

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<v Speaker 1>part for some Yeah, installing Graphenios. This isn't like just

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<v Speaker 1>downloading an app.

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<v Speaker 2>No, definitely not. You're basically replacing the phone's entire original

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<v Speaker 2>brain with Graphenio.

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<v Speaker 1>As to how's it done, Bizell walks through it for

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<v Speaker 1>Pixel phones.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, He focuses on compatible Google Pixel devices. First, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to prep the phone, unlock the OEM setting, and

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<v Speaker 2>turn on USB debugging. He mentions he's covered this before elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>And he gives a couple of ways to do the

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<v Speaker 1>actual install starting with a web based method.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, the web installer that's designed to make it easier,

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<v Speaker 2>more accessible.

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<v Speaker 1>How does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>You use a web browser? He suggests a chromium based

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<v Speaker 2>one like Brave, which is more private than chrome itself,

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<v Speaker 2>connect the phone to your computer, and the Graphenis website

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<v Speaker 2>basically walks you through it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what are the steps?

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<v Speaker 2>Roughly, you boot the phone into what's called bootloader mode,

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<v Speaker 2>plug it into the computer. On the website, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>button click that it unlocks the bootloader. Temporarily confirm it

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<v Speaker 2>on the phone. Right Then the installer downloads graphingios, flashes

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<v Speaker 2>it onto the phone. That's the install part, and then

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<v Speaker 2>crucially use the web tool again to relock the bootloader.

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<v Speaker 1>Relocking is important for security.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely essential. Then the phone reboots and boom, you're running

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<v Speaker 2>Graphy in THEOS.

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<v Speaker 1>He also mentions doing it via command line Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>For the more technically adventurous, yeah, gives you more control,

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<v Speaker 2>but you need to be comfortable with Android command line

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<v Speaker 2>tools like fast boots. The web installer is way easier

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<v Speaker 2>for most people.

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<v Speaker 1>And once Graphius is up and running, any immediate next

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<v Speaker 1>steps for security?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, definitely go straight into settings and turn off OEM

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<v Speaker 2>unlocking and developer options. You needed them for the install,

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<v Speaker 2>but leaving them on is a security risk.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it Okay? Fresh GRAFANIOS install. He says it's private

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<v Speaker 1>by default, but are there things we should tweak right away.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a great starting point, but Bizell does point

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<v Speaker 2>out some useful adjustments. One really neat feature is the

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<v Speaker 2>quick settings toggles for the microphone and camera.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh like quick kill switches exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Software kill switches lets you instantly block access.

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<v Speaker 1>Super handy day to day, but it's software, not a

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<v Speaker 1>physical block.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, important distinction. Good for everyday use, but maybe not

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<v Speaker 2>fool proof if you need absolute certainty. He also suggests

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<v Speaker 2>doing the initial device setup while you're on Wi Fi.

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<v Speaker 1>Wi Fi not cellular data.

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<v Speaker 2>Why well, during setup, the phone's doing a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>initial communication checking for updates. Connecting to servers using a

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<v Speaker 2>trusted Wi Fi network is just a more controlled environment.

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<v Speaker 1>And ideally behind a VPN, even.

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<v Speaker 2>On Wi Fi, that's the extreme measure. Yeah, it masks

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<v Speaker 2>your IP and encrypts everything during that sensitive phase, but

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<v Speaker 2>he concedes for some just using your home Wi Fi

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<v Speaker 2>might be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>He also mentions a couple of other optional things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like setting the screen to grayscale if you want

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<v Speaker 2>fewer distractions, or switching back to the old three button

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<v Speaker 2>navigation if you prefer it. A little usability tweaks.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Browsing that's a big one for privacy. Graffinios comes

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<v Speaker 1>with its own browser, Vanadium.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Vanadium, it's built on chromium but hardened for privacy.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we need to know about using it privately?

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<v Speaker 2>The main thing Bazell points out is, unlike some other

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<v Speaker 2>privacy browsers, Vanadium doesn't automatically wipe your history in cookies

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<v Speaker 2>when you close it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, so you need to clean up after yourself manually exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>He advises going into settings periodically and clearing browsing data

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<v Speaker 2>to help minimize what it keeps. You can turn on

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<v Speaker 2>settings like closed tabs on exit and maybe open external

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, makes sense, Keep it tidy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. He also gives a quick nod to checking the

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<v Speaker 2>camera app settings, just making sure they're figured how you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Contacts another big data source usually sync straight to Google

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<v Speaker 1>or Apple. What's the Bizell way to handle contacts on

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<v Speaker 1>Grafinios without the cloud?

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<v Speaker 2>The whole idea is just keep your contacts off those

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<v Speaker 2>big cloud servers, completely under your control.

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<v Speaker 1>So no sinking. How does it work?

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<v Speaker 2>Then it's a manual process. He suggests keeping your master

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<v Speaker 1>Bit more involved than automatic sinco.

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<v Speaker 2>never touches Googles or Apple servers.

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<v Speaker 1>And you could get that vcfile from other places too,

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, device is set up, contacts are handled locally. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk network level stuff. Zell recommends next DNS. What is

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<v Speaker 2>So think of DNS as the Internet's phone book. It

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<v Speaker 2>your device can connect to. Right Normally, your internet provider

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<v Speaker 2>or mobile carrier handles those lookups and they can log everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Next dns is a private DNS service you can tell

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<v Speaker 1>So you bypass your ISPSDNS. What's the advantage to.

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<v Speaker 2>Ones First, next DNS can log all the connections your

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<v Speaker 1>Visibility, see where your data's going exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And second, even better, you can set up blocklists. Tell

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<v Speaker 2>these tracking domains, these malware sites.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoh okay. So it's like a filter for the whole

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<v Speaker 2>Precisely, he specifically suggests enabling the main next DNS ads

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<v Speaker 2>and trackers blocklist. It stops a lot of unwonded stuff

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<v Speaker 1>What if it blocks something I actually need, like a

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<v Speaker 2>Good question. It can happen occasionally. Bazell's advice is simple,

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<v Speaker 2>If the app works again, you know next DNS was

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<v Speaker 2>Or if you see an app constantly calling home to

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<v Speaker 2>Very granular control.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can turn off a logging in next DNS

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<v Speaker 2>Right, once you get your blockless dialed, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>Next DNS notifications. They seem harmless, but they mean constant

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<v Speaker 1>pings back to app servers. Right. What's the extreme privacy

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<v Speaker 1>take here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that classic privacy versus convenience trade off turning off

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<v Speaker 2>push notifications. Definitely more private apps aren't constantly checking in.

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<v Speaker 2>You only get updates when you actively open the app.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus better battery life probably often.

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<v Speaker 1>He mentioned. Some apps like Totonota and Signal have their

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Some privacy focus apps try to handle notifications themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>avoiding Google system to to Noda Signal do this, but

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<v Speaker 2>as Bazell notes, sometimes that can actually drain more battery

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<v Speaker 1>Open, and some VIP apps only work when they're open.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, things like Sypnetic or my Pseudo might only ring

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<v Speaker 2>for incoming calls that the app is actually running in

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<v Speaker 2>the foreground. So a totally Google free setup might mean

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like you really have to want that level

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<v Speaker 2>You do, which leads to the compromise. Bizelle discusses Graffinius

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<v Speaker 2>is sandboxed Google Play services for push.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, the sandboxed option again, how does that help with notifications?

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<v Speaker 2>It lets you get notifications from apps that depend on

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<v Speaker 2>Google system, but without needing a full Google account logged

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<v Speaker 2>in on your phone, and it restricts what Google can see.

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<v Speaker 1>How restricted?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Google might know that an app is sending a

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<v Speaker 2>of the notification. It's encrypted, and since you're not logged in,

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<v Speaker 2>it's harder for them to tie that activity directly back

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it's a middle ground exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Bazel himself prefers no Push services for ultimate privacy, but

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<v Speaker 2>he admits most Graphinios users enable the sandboxed version because frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>it makes the phone much more practical for daily use.

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<v Speaker 1>If you do want to use it, should you install

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<v Speaker 1>it before your apps?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's the recommendation install the sandbox play services first,

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<v Speaker 2>then install the apps that need it. He walks through

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<v Speaker 2>can always uninstall them later if you change your mind,

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<v Speaker 2>Plus how to manage notification permissions per app?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, right, Okay, os is set up, network is filtered,

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<v Speaker 1>notifications handled. We need apps. The regular Google play store

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<v Speaker 1>is out. If we're avoiding Google, how do we install

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is a key challenge. The goal is to

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<v Speaker 2>the playstore. Bizell mentions Aurora Store first.

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<v Speaker 1>Aurorer Store. That's like an anonymous front end for the

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<v Speaker 1>playstore exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It tries to fetch you apps anonymously, but he notes

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<v Speaker 2>lays out a kind of highhierarchy of methods from best

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<v Speaker 2>to worst privacy wise. What's the order best option? First?

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<v Speaker 2>F droid that's a repository specifically for free and open

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<v Speaker 2>source software FOSS. If the app you want is on

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<v Speaker 2>f droid, get.

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<v Speaker 1>It there, Okay, f droid first.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's not there, then try Aurora Store first. Attempt

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<v Speaker 1>See if that works, and if the anonymous login fails.

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<v Speaker 2>Then reluctantly you might need to log into Aurora Store

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<v Speaker 2>using a burner Google account when you created just for

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<v Speaker 2>the apps you need, then log out of the burner

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<v Speaker 2>account and Aurora immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Still better than using your main Google account.

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<v Speaker 2>Much better, And the absolute last resort if none of

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<v Speaker 2>that works is manually finding and downloading the APK file

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<v Speaker 2>for the app from a trusted third party source like

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<v Speaker 2>APK miror or APK Pure, but that requires careful vetting

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<v Speaker 1>So the preference is clearly f Droid, then Aurora anonymous,

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<v Speaker 1>then Aurora Burner, then manual APKs.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the flow, and he stresses keep froid and Aurora

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<v Speaker 2>store themselves updated, preferably manually checking for updates rather than

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<v Speaker 1>He acknowledges there's some debate about fdroid and Aurora.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, within the privacy community. There are always discussions about

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<v Speaker 2>trust and potential risks, but Bizell's take is basically they're flawed,

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<v Speaker 2>but still vastly better privacy wise than using the official

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<v Speaker 2>Google Play Store logged in with your real account. His

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<v Speaker 2>advice is simple, only install apps you really need and trust.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay apps are installed. We talked about next DNS blocking domains.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we use that to block trackers within specific apps?

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<v Speaker 1>He mentioned Blockingbrais dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. Absolutely, This is where next DNS becomes really powerful

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<v Speaker 2>for app privacy. You use the next DNS logs to

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<v Speaker 2>watch what connections your apps are making in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Background, like spying on your own apps kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So you install an app, use it a bit,

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<v Speaker 2>then check your next DNS logs if you see it

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<v Speaker 2>constantly talking to domains like Braise dot com or appash

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<v Speaker 1>Or whatever, which are known tracker domains.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you can just copy that domain name and added

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<v Speaker 2>straight to your next DNS denihilist blocked.

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<v Speaker 1>He gave another example with the privacy dot Com app.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, showing that you might see connections from a legitimate

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<v Speaker 2>app you do want to use, but maybe you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want it talking to certain third party services it uses.

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<v Speaker 2>You can review those connections in the logs and decide, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll allow the main app function, but I'll block this

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<v Speaker 1>That's powerful. Okay, navigation. Google Maps is obviously the default

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<v Speaker 1>for most, but it's a privacy nightmare. What are the

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<v Speaker 2>He points to a few solid privacy respecting options, mostly

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<v Speaker 2>based on openstreet map data, Organic Maps, os Man plus

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<v Speaker 2>often written osman, and Magic Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the big advantage of these offline maps?

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<v Speaker 2>All of them let you download map data for entire

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<v Speaker 2>regions or countries directly to your phone, so you.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't need a data connection while navigating, and you're not

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, huge privacy win. Magic Earth also tries to do

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<v Speaker 2>live traffic, but Bizill finds it less reliable than Google's.

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<v Speaker 1>Which one does he lean towards currently.

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<v Speaker 2>He mentions preferring Magic Earth finds it a good balance

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<v Speaker 2>of features and usability. He downloads maps for whole country,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's covered offline, and if.

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<v Speaker 1>You absolutely positively need Google Maps for something specific.

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<v Speaker 2>His suggestion is maybe install it in a secondary user

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<v Speaker 2>We'll touch on profiles later, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 1>He also brings up adding extra pins to specific apps.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, another layer of security. Some apps lete you set

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<v Speaker 1>In, so even if someone gets past your phone lock,

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<v Speaker 1>they hit another wall trying to open that specific app.

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<v Speaker 2>Precisely. He lists examples like standard notes, my pseudo privacy

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<v Speaker 2>dot Com wire off for this. Unfortunately, some big ones

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<v Speaker 2>like Signal and tooted Noda don't. They just rely on

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, devices locked down apps are chosen carefully. Now connecting

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<v Speaker 1>to the outside world cellular service, this feels like a

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<v Speaker 1>major tracking point. What's the approach, especially thinking about the

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<v Speaker 2>The absolute core principle here is break the link between

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<v Speaker 2>all cell phones track location period. You can't stop that entirely.

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<v Speaker 2>The goal is to make the service account pseudonymous.

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<v Speaker 1>Not tied to your real name and address.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. He briefly mentions the hard core option just don't

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<v Speaker 2>rare but.

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<v Speaker 1>Possible for most people needing cellular. What's the plan?

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<v Speaker 2>Prepaid SIM cards bought with cash using alias information for

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<v Speaker 2>any activation details required here you get them retail stores. Ideally,

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<v Speaker 2>an Amazon locker using a temporary address like a hotel

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<v Speaker 2>you're not actually staying at. Always pay with cash or

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<v Speaker 1>Physical SIM versus AESIM any privacy difference.

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<v Speaker 2>cash and easier to swap between phones. eSIMs are convenient

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<v Speaker 2>for activation, often done online. He gives a detailed example

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<v Speaker 2>of activating a Mint Mobile free trial eSIM using alias

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<v Speaker 2>info over public Wi Fi, notes that renewing those trials

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<v Speaker 2>anonymously is tricky.

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<v Speaker 1>Though what about Tello, He mentions them too.

436
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Tello's another T mobile reseller, often has more flexible plans,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe cheaper data only options. Crucially, he says, you can

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<v Speaker 2>often buy a plan and get the ESIMQR code right

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<v Speaker 2>from their website, making the anonymous set up potentially easier

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<v Speaker 2>if done carefully with alias info and masked payment.

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<v Speaker 1>What if you use Wi Fi calling, does that hide

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<v Speaker 1>you from the carrier?

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<v Speaker 2>Not really, Bizell says, even over Wi Fi, your calls

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<v Speaker 2>and texts using the carrier number are still logged by

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<v Speaker 2>the provider. Minimal privacy gain there. Maybe useful for making

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<v Speaker 2>a quick call in your carrier number while you're on

447
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<v Speaker 2>secure WiFi, but that's about it.

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<v Speaker 1>He advises not disabling SMS entirely right.

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<v Speaker 2>Because carriers sometimes send important alerts via SMS, like warning

450
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<v Speaker 2>about potential simswaps. Better to leave it functional, just don't

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<v Speaker 2>use it for personal communication. His own setup, he mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>using a Mint physical sim for testing some data only

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<v Speaker 2>e sims, and then heavily relying on.

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<v Speaker 1>VoIP Okay VoIP Voice over Internet protocol. This seems key

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<v Speaker 1>to his strategy for calls and texts. Why move away

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<v Speaker 1>from the regular cell number.

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<v Speaker 2>Several big reasons. One, your carrier logs all calls and

458
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<v Speaker 2>texts on that number permanently. That cell number is a

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<v Speaker 2>huge identifier links back to you, used for data breaches boxing. Three,

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<v Speaker 2>simswapping is a massive threat tied directly to your carrier number. Four,

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<v Speaker 2>you just don't control who gets where shares your main

462
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<v Speaker 2>cell number, so.

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<v Speaker 1>VoIP offers more anonymity and control.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly the goal Bezelle lays out is setting up your

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<v Speaker 2>own personal VoIP system on your secure Graphenios phone, making

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<v Speaker 2>and receiving calls without needing Google services or exposing your

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<v Speaker 2>real cell number.

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<v Speaker 1>Before picking a VoIP provider, he recommends getting your own

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<v Speaker 1>domain name. Why.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about having a stable, controllable identity for signing up

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<v Speaker 2>for services. Lots of free or anonymous email services get

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<v Speaker 2>blocked these days. If you own my dash private dash

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<v Speaker 2>domain dot com, you can create unlimited email addresses like

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<v Speaker 2>voipe sign up at my dashprivate dash domain dot com

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes you less dependent on throwaway emails that might get flagged, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And it looks more legitimate to services like VoIP providers,

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<v Speaker 2>potentially helping bypass their fraud filters.

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<v Speaker 1>He suggests cloud Flare for this. How does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Create a free cloud Flare account using maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>proton mail address, register a domain name through them. Costs

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<v Speaker 2>about nine dollars a year. Pay with the masked card

483
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<v Speaker 2>like privacy dot com, and then set of cloud Flares

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<v Speaker 2>free email forwarding. You can forward emails send to any

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<v Speaker 2>address at your domain to your secure proton mail inbox.

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<v Speaker 1>Super flexible, so not strictly required, but a good foundation.

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<v Speaker 2>Recommend it, Yeah, especially for dealing with telephony providers.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, domain ready, let's set up a VoIP number. He

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<v Speaker 1>uses Twilio as the main example. How do you set

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<v Speaker 1>up Twilio privately?

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<v Speaker 2>Key is avoiding your real identity. He suggests creating the

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<v Speaker 2>account without a VPN if possible. They sometimes block vpn ips.

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<v Speaker 2>Use an existing VoIP or maybe even a landline number

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<v Speaker 2>for verification if you have one separate from your main

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<v Speaker 2>mobile And when Twilio inaffably asks what are you using

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<v Speaker 2>this for give a plausible, maybe slightly business sounding reason,

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<v Speaker 2>don't you say anonymous calls?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Account created? Then you buy a number yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Purchase a phone number from Twilio and the area code

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<v Speaker 2>you want. Then comes the slightly tricky part. Configuring twmml

501
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<v Speaker 2>bins sounds technical, it's Twilia's simple code language. You create

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<v Speaker 2>little snippets of code called twmlbins that tell Twilio what

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<v Speaker 2>to do with incoming calls, like connect them to your

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<v Speaker 2>LSIP client, and outgoing calls roll them through Twilio. You

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<v Speaker 2>link your purchase number to these bins.

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<v Speaker 1>He mentions nine one one calls.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Twilio warns about emergency call fees and reliability. Bezell's

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<v Speaker 2>advice for nine to one one always use your phone's

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<v Speaker 2>native cellular dialer, not the VoIP app.

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<v Speaker 1>Got it. So Twilio handles the number and the routing logic.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you actually make or receive a call on

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<v Speaker 1>the Graphinus phone.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where a sepubowl client app comes in. He recommends Sypnetic.

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<v Speaker 1>Sypnetic.

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<v Speaker 2>You install Sypnetic from f troid or aroor store granted permissions,

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<v Speaker 2>and then manually add an account. You'll put in your

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<v Speaker 2>Twiliophone number the Torio server address, your number dot SIP

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<v Speaker 2>dot us one, dot Twilio dot com or similar, and

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<v Speaker 2>then use your main Twilio account SID as the user

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<v Speaker 2>name and your off token as the password within sypnetic.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so sybnetic connects to Twilio using those credentials exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Then Sybnetic acts like your phone dialer for that Twilio number.

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<v Speaker 2>He notes, you can pour numbers into Twilio two and

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<v Speaker 2>make international calls. Just remember standard VoIP calls usually aren't

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<v Speaker 2>end to end encrypted. The win here is control and

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<v Speaker 2>anonymity of the number itself on your ungoogled phone.

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<v Speaker 1>What about SMS texts? Can we get those on the

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<v Speaker 1>Twilio number?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, similar process, create another twemlbin, this one specifically for

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<v Speaker 2>incoming SA. The code basically says, when a text comes in,

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<v Speaker 2>forward the message body and the sender's number to this

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<v Speaker 2>other phone number I specify. Then you can figure your

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<v Speaker 2>Twilio number to use that twinm mail bin for messaging.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so texts get forwarded somewhere else. What about voicemail?

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<v Speaker 2>Same idea. Another twemmel bin, This one tells Twilio, if

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<v Speaker 2>a call isn't answered, play a greading record a message,

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<v Speaker 2>and then email a link to the recording to this

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<v Speaker 2>email address.

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<v Speaker 1>So voicemails end up as audio links in your email.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. You then set your Twilio number to use that

541
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<v Speaker 2>voicemail bin when calls timeout or are busy. Big caveat.

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<v Speaker 2>Though those voicemail recordings are stored on Twilio servers, not.

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<v Speaker 1>Private ah, so you need to manage that definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Bizell advises going into your Twilio dashboard regularly and deleting

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<v Speaker 2>the recordings and transcripts. He also suggests disabling a setting

546
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<v Speaker 2>in Twilio called Daily Calls log Archives for better hygiene,

547
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<v Speaker 2>and remember each extra Twilio number costs extra money per month.

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<v Speaker 1>He also gives tel Nix as a Twilio alternative. Quicker

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<v Speaker 1>setup maybe ye, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It mentions Telnickx briefly says monthly number costs might be

551
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<v Speaker 2>slightly lower. Set up maybe a bit easier, but big drawbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>No built in voicemail. You apparently can't delete call text

553
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<v Speaker 2>logs from their system, and their fraud detection might be stricter,

554
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<v Speaker 2>potentially leading to account freezes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He gives a referral link if people want to try it.

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<v Speaker 2>Set up with Sypnetic is similar, but uses Tellnik's credentials

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<v Speaker 2>and servers, and they don't have native SMS forwarding. You'd

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<v Speaker 2>have to build your own forwarder.

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<v Speaker 1>And my Pseudo that's another VIP option he uses, right.

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<v Speaker 2>My Pseudo is different. It's an app that gives you

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<v Speaker 2>multiple pseudos, basically profiles, each with its own private phone number, email,

563
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<v Speaker 2>and contacts, all managed within the app.

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<v Speaker 1>Can it run on Graphenius, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>He says. It installs via Aurora Store. He personally uses it,

566
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<v Speaker 2>finds outgoing calls texts reliable, but because he disables push notifications,

567
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<v Speaker 2>he often misses incoming calls texts unless the app is open.

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<v Speaker 1>But for someone who enables the sandboxed push notifications.

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<v Speaker 2>Then my pseudo should work normally for incoming alerts too.

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<v Speaker 2>He does. He's an advisor and shareholder for a nonimal labs,

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<v Speaker 2>the company behind my pseudo.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, lots of yp options, but what about the phone number?

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<v Speaker 1>Most of us already have our main cell number. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't just ditch it. Usually, how do we handle that?

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00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Good question? He lays out the options. One, cancel it,

576
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<v Speaker 2>lose the number forever. Two, keep the old plan on

577
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:25.000
<v Speaker 2>an old phone inconvenient expensive. Three port the number to

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<v Speaker 2>a VoIP service usually the best option if.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to keep it porting like moving the number.

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00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:34.359
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and the crucial thing, do not cancel your old

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<v Speaker 2>cell service before the port is complete. The porting process

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<v Speaker 2>itself cancels the old service automatically once it succeeds.

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<v Speaker 1>Where should you port it to? He mentions Google Voice.

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00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. He gives detailed steps for porting your old cell

585
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.599
<v Speaker 2>number to Google Voice recommends using a VPN. For setup.

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<v Speaker 2>You basically sign up to Google Voice, get a temporary

587
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:54.720
<v Speaker 2>gv number, then initiate the porting process for your old

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<v Speaker 2>cell number, which replaces the temporary one, pay the porting fee,

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<v Speaker 2>wait for it to finish.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you use the number. Once it's on Google Voice.

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<v Speaker 2>You can make receive calls and texts via the Google

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<v Speaker 2>Voice website or app. But the goal here isn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>to use Google Voice daily, but to park the number securely.

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<v Speaker 1>He also mentioned porting to Twilio as an example.

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00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Right shared his own experience porting a Mint Mobile number

596
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<v Speaker 2>to Twilio took a few days. An interesting side effect

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<v Speaker 2>was that, at least initially, many online services still saw

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<v Speaker 2>the number as a regular mobile number, not VoIP, which

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<v Speaker 2>helped for things like bank verification codes. But that might

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<v Speaker 2>not last forever as databases update.

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<v Speaker 1>What about that weird idea of LINKINGIP back to Google

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<v Speaker 1>Voice forwarding calls.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds counterintuitive, yeah, but it's a strategy. If you

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<v Speaker 2>want to receive communications set to your old number now

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<v Speaker 2>parked on Google Voice without actively using Google services. You

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<v Speaker 2>could say, forward calls from your Twilio number to your

607
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<v Speaker 2>Google Voice number, then say Google Voice to forward voicemails

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<v Speaker 2>and texts to your encrypted email like proton mail, so.

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<v Speaker 1>You get notified via email about stuff sent to your

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<v Speaker 1>old number without needing the Google Voice app installed or

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<v Speaker 1>constantly checking the website exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an indirect way to keep tabs on the old

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<v Speaker 2>number while minimizing direct interaction with Google. He details steff

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<v Speaker 2>to further disconnect Google Voice from other devices too.

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<v Speaker 1>Data only cellular plans. Why would someone want just data

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<v Speaker 1>no voice text plan?

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00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Primarily to dodge risks associated with a traditional phone number

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<v Speaker 2>like simswapping and tracking link to that number. It's for

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<v Speaker 2>people who mostly communicate oversecure encrypted data apps like signal

620
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<v Speaker 2>Wire or VoIP and just need the Internet connection that

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<v Speaker 2>it benefits often shorter commitments. Sometimes you can access multiple

622
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:46.279
<v Speaker 2>carriers via resellers, potentially more anonymity from the carrier itself

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<v Speaker 2>since there's no voice number tied to you in the

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<v Speaker 2>same way.

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<v Speaker 1>What providers offer this He.

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00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Mentions basic options from Tello and US Mobile. Again also

627
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<v Speaker 2>touches on international data sims often run out of places

628
00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:59.680
<v Speaker 2>like Hong Kong. They offer global coverage but can have

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<v Speaker 2>issue is like data expiring quickly or limited private payment options.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep Go's mention is maybe more flexible, bit pricier.

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<v Speaker 1>So data only is maybe a niche thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, valuable, Maybe is a secondary SIM for travel or

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<v Speaker 2>for really high target folks who manage all their comms

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<v Speaker 2>over data and are good at managing data usage less

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<v Speaker 2>practical for the average person.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we have secure devices, private numbers, careful app installs.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the actual communication, end to end encryption is paramount, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Says, absolutely critical. E two E ensures only you and

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<v Speaker 2>the person you're talking to can see the message here

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<v Speaker 2>the call, etc. Not the provider, not anyone in the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>Applies to email, voice, video messaging standard SMS.

642
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:43.039
<v Speaker 1>Text messages are out.

643
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Then definitely not encrypted. Carriers can see content. Metadata is

644
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:50.240
<v Speaker 2>logged risky. You want apps that offer E to EE

645
00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:53.759
<v Speaker 2>ideally zero knowledge, meaning the provider can't decrypt even if

646
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:55.880
<v Speaker 2>they wanted to, and ephemeral messages.

647
00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:59.319
<v Speaker 1>Auto deleting signal comes up first, widely used. What's the

648
00:30:59.359 --> 00:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>privacy A.

649
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.119
<v Speaker 2>Signals encryption is top notch. The main privacy wrinkle, Basil

650
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:04.920
<v Speaker 2>points out, is needing a phone number to register.

651
00:31:05.079 --> 00:31:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Ah, so don't use your real cell number.

652
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:11.799
<v Speaker 2>Never use one of your VoIP numbers, Twilio, my pseudo,

653
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:15.359
<v Speaker 2>maybe the number you ported to Google Voice register's signal.

654
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:19.279
<v Speaker 2>With that, he walks through installing signal via Aurora, verifying

655
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:22.720
<v Speaker 2>with the VoIP number, and basic privacy settings inside signal,

656
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:25.880
<v Speaker 2>like hiding the typing indicator, deciding if anyone can contact you.

657
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:29.759
<v Speaker 2>He admits Signal isn't perfect, but its wide adoption is

658
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:32.480
<v Speaker 2>a huge plus for actually communicating securely with people.

659
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:34.559
<v Speaker 1>Wire is the second option he likes.

660
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:37.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Wire big advantage. You can sign up with just

661
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:37.880
<v Speaker 2>an email.

662
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:39.799
<v Speaker 1>Address, no phone number needed, right use a.

663
00:31:39.759 --> 00:31:43.359
<v Speaker 2>Proton mail address. It does E two EE for text, audio,

664
00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:47.200
<v Speaker 2>video works, cross platform free for personal use. You can

665
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:50.039
<v Speaker 2>even have multiple wire accounts easily. He notes a minor

666
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:53.319
<v Speaker 2>occasional glitch where messages might not sink instantly across all

667
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:55.400
<v Speaker 2>your devices, but still recommends it highly.

668
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>VPNs virtual private networks? How do they fit into the

669
00:31:58.960 --> 00:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>mobile picture?

670
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:03.839
<v Speaker 2>Main benefits on mobile? According to the zell hiding your

671
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:06.640
<v Speaker 2>activity from your cell carrier they see you connecting to

672
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:09.799
<v Speaker 2>the VPN server or not the final websites, and masking

673
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:12.440
<v Speaker 2>your phone's IP address from the websites and services you visit.

674
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Which VPN does he recommend.

675
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:18.480
<v Speaker 2>His primary recommendation is Proton VPN. He also uses PIA

676
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:23.559
<v Speaker 2>Private Internet Access, sometimes specifically for their dedicated IP address feature,

677
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:26.359
<v Speaker 2>which can help get around sites or services that block

678
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:30.680
<v Speaker 2>known VPN ips. He explicitly says he doesn't use or

679
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:33.440
<v Speaker 2>recommend MOLVAD due to bad experiences.

680
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:35.839
<v Speaker 1>Does he keep the VPN on all the time on mobile?

681
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Not necessarily always on for his computers. Yes, on mobile,

682
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:41.720
<v Speaker 2>he uses it when he feels it's needed. He's realistic.

683
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Your carrier and email provider can still often see which

684
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:48.359
<v Speaker 2>domains or IPS you connect to, even with a VPN.

685
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Depends on your threat model.

686
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:54.000
<v Speaker 1>So Proton for general, use PIA for dedicated IPS if

687
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<v Speaker 1>needed for tricky sites like.

688
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:58.559
<v Speaker 2>Banks, that's his setup. Yeah, he trusts Proton's business model

689
00:32:58.640 --> 00:32:59.640
<v Speaker 2>and Swiss jurisdiction.

690
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:02.359
<v Speaker 1>Custom Simizing the look and feel launchers, he mentions lawn

691
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Chair two.

692
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, launchers change how your home screen looks and functions.

693
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:09.559
<v Speaker 2>Nova is popular, but Bizell prefers lawn Chair two, the

694
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:13.160
<v Speaker 2>version on Aurora Store, not the old Defroid one simple customizable.

695
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:16.119
<v Speaker 2>He walks through setting it as default, changing icon grids,

696
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:17.200
<v Speaker 2>hiding docs, et cetera.

697
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Isn't Launcher two kind of old, not updated anymore?

698
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:23.000
<v Speaker 2>It is. Yeah. He acknowledges that, but still likes its

699
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:26.839
<v Speaker 2>stability and simplicity for his needs. His workaround for potential

700
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:30.640
<v Speaker 2>security concerns is to install it, configure it, and then

701
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:33.599
<v Speaker 2>immediately block its network access in the graffinios settings.

702
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what about other essential apps? Notes, music, podcasts.

703
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:41.640
<v Speaker 2>For notes, standard notes, encrypted sinks or simple notes local

704
00:33:41.720 --> 00:33:45.640
<v Speaker 2>good for widgets music, simple music player, froid, basic MP

705
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:50.519
<v Speaker 2>three's or power ramp or features Equalizer podcasts and tenepod

706
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:53.440
<v Speaker 2>f droid. If you need to track stocks, maybe stock widget,

707
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:56.119
<v Speaker 2>Arora store. All privacy focused alternatives.

708
00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Managing all these different phone numbers, YP, signal etc. Gets

709
00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:01.480
<v Speaker 1>confus using. He suggested a widget.

710
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:04.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a cheat cheat widget. Simple idea. Create a note

711
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.200
<v Speaker 2>in simple notes pro afteroid version listing all your different

712
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:11.039
<v Speaker 2>numbers example Twoliot five FI five one two three four signal.

713
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Then put the simple notes widget displaying that note right

714
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:14.719
<v Speaker 2>on your home screen for quick reference.

715
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:18.599
<v Speaker 1>Handy. Now, Graphenemus has multiple user profiles, how can we

716
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:20.320
<v Speaker 1>use that for privacy isolation.

717
00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:22.760
<v Speaker 2>That's the key benefit. You can create a completely separate

718
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:25.719
<v Speaker 2>space in your phone for certain apps or activities.

719
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Like as Google Maps.

720
00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Example, exactly, create a secondary profile called travel or whatever.

721
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:34.679
<v Speaker 2>Install only Google Maps and maybe Sandbox play services if

722
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:38.599
<v Speaker 2>needed for Maps features. Inside that profile, your main profile

723
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:40.159
<v Speaker 2>stays completely Google free.

724
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Are these profiles totally separate, like anonymous from each other?

725
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Not completely. Bazell is clear. They share the same hardware,

726
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:50.960
<v Speaker 2>same Wi Fi connection, same cellular radio, same GPS, so

727
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:55.280
<v Speaker 2>it's not true anonymity between profiles and apps running at

728
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:57.880
<v Speaker 2>a background profile can still use RAM and battery, so.

729
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Good for isolating apps, but not a magic bullet for anonymity, right.

730
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:05.480
<v Speaker 2>He recommends rebooting the phone after using a secondary profile,

731
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:08.000
<v Speaker 2>or at least using the n session feature for that profile,

732
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:10.519
<v Speaker 2>and probably don't create more than one extra profile due

733
00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:11.519
<v Speaker 2>to storage and hassle.

734
00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Two factor authentication two FA crucial for security. What's the

735
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:16.599
<v Speaker 1>best approach here?

736
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Software authenticator apps? First? If starting fresh, he suggests paid

737
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:24.239
<v Speaker 2>standard Notes, which has a built in authenticator, or free Bitwarden,

738
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:27.559
<v Speaker 2>which also does. Hardware keys like ubikey are even better

739
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:30.079
<v Speaker 2>if the service supports them. Standard notes does.

740
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:33.159
<v Speaker 1>What about sites that only allow SMS two FA.

741
00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Ugh Yeah, annoying but common. Try the Google Voice number first,

742
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:40.159
<v Speaker 2>the one you ported. It's generally more reliable for SMS

743
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:43.719
<v Speaker 2>verification than PUREVOIP and can sometimes work with hardware keys

744
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:46.719
<v Speaker 2>linked to your Google account for extra security. If that

745
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:49.480
<v Speaker 2>fails and you must use a real cellular number like

746
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:51.199
<v Speaker 2>for some banks, you'd have to fall back to the

747
00:35:51.239 --> 00:35:54.159
<v Speaker 2>strategies for getting a private prepaid SIM we discussed earlier.

748
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:56.599
<v Speaker 1>Keeping this all running smoothly maintenance.

749
00:35:56.760 --> 00:36:00.599
<v Speaker 2>What's key updates and backups? Graphinios is great with frequent

750
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:05.440
<v Speaker 2>direct security updates. Keep those installed for backups, especially photos doo.

751
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Not rely on Google Photos.

752
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Or iCloud manual backups.

753
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:12.599
<v Speaker 2>Then, yes, weekly routine. He suggests. Plug in the USBC

754
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.880
<v Speaker 2>drive format at FA thirty two. Use the files app

755
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:18.400
<v Speaker 2>on the phone to move not copy photos from the

756
00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:22.199
<v Speaker 2>camera folder bcim camera to the USB drive. Eject the drive,

757
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.559
<v Speaker 2>plug it into your secure encrypted computer, copy the photos there,

758
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:27.960
<v Speaker 2>then erase the photos from the USB drive. Long term

759
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:30.719
<v Speaker 2>storage is only on the encrypted computer, which itself should

760
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:31.360
<v Speaker 2>have backups.

761
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, daily use, How do we live with this thing?

762
00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Day to day? Home strategies Faraday bags, blocking mics, cameras right.

763
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Big consideration risk of the phone constantly connecting to cell

764
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:45.000
<v Speaker 2>towers near your home, revealing patterns. Some extreme users never

765
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:47.360
<v Speaker 2>bring their primary phone home or connect near home.

766
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Wow, what's a more moderate approach?

767
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Maybe use a secondary Wi Fi only device at home

768
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:56.679
<v Speaker 2>for secure comms Those signal only allows one mobile device.

769
00:36:57.159 --> 00:37:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Bezel's current strategy one Graphios phone Wi Fi only at home,

770
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:05.519
<v Speaker 2>airplane mode plus my camera blocked went away. Maybe even

771
00:37:05.559 --> 00:37:08.559
<v Speaker 2>remove the SIM disabled eSIM when at home for extra paranoia.

772
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Faraday bags for blocking all signals YEP.

773
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:14.719
<v Speaker 2>Essential if you need total radio silence. He recommends the

774
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:18.679
<v Speaker 2>output bag from Silent Pocket, gives a discount. Link stresses

775
00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:21.800
<v Speaker 2>you must test your bag thoroughly. Try calling it, check

776
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Wi Fi, Bluetooth while it's inside, don't just assume it works.

777
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:28.760
<v Speaker 1>And blocking mics and cameras software toggles plus physical.

778
00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Both use a graphin US quick settings toggles daily, but

779
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:34.280
<v Speaker 2>also use physical blockers for the camera, simple tape or

780
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:37.760
<v Speaker 2>a slider for the microphone. He recommends USBC microphone plugs.

781
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:39.119
<v Speaker 1>How do those plugs work?

782
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:41.960
<v Speaker 2>They trick the phone into thinking and external microphone. Like

783
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:45.559
<v Speaker 2>on headphones, it's plugged in, so it disables the internal mics.

784
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:48.760
<v Speaker 2>He warns against the tiny flush mount plugs, easy to lose,

785
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:51.840
<v Speaker 2>might accidentally trigger voice assistance. Get ones with a little tab.

786
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Physical blockers prevent accidental hot mic situations.

787
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Headphones and transferring files. Anything special there.

788
00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Since most phones lack headphone jack, now use wired earbuds

789
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:04.400
<v Speaker 2>with an inline mic for calls. Don't use speaker phone.

790
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:07.519
<v Speaker 2>Get a USBC to three point five millimeters dapter if needed.

791
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Apples is cheap maybe low volume for transferring files like

792
00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:16.199
<v Speaker 2>those VCF contacts or photos. Use a dedicated USBC flash

793
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:19.119
<v Speaker 2>drive like the sand Dis Ultra duel drive he likes

794
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.800
<v Speaker 2>instead of plugging phone directly into a computer. More liable,

795
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:25.480
<v Speaker 2>less potential driver hassle or emergencies.

796
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:27.039
<v Speaker 1>Calling nine one one that.

797
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Will reveal your true cellular number if you have an

798
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:32.039
<v Speaker 2>active SIMSIM no way around it. So I have a plan.

799
00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Bizell keeps an old deactivated flip phone in his car,

800
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:38.079
<v Speaker 2>the nine to one one phone. Any cell phone even

801
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:40.119
<v Speaker 2>without service can call nine one one in the US.

802
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Just in case you need to revert all this flashing

803
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>back to stock Android.

804
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he briefly covers using the command line fastboot tool

805
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:50.280
<v Speaker 2>to flash the original Google Pixel firmware back onto the device.

806
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:52.639
<v Speaker 2>Useful if you need to return it, sell it, or

807
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:54.000
<v Speaker 2>just go back to stock for some reason.

808
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, last big section Apple iOS. He prefers Graphenios. But

809
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:01.159
<v Speaker 1>some people want or need an I phone. What's the

810
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:01.880
<v Speaker 1>advice for them?

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00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:07.119
<v Speaker 2>Right? Acknowledging reality first, same purchase advice, buy new with

812
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:10.639
<v Speaker 2>cash in person at an Apple Store if possible. Then

813
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:15.719
<v Speaker 2>it's all about tweaking iOS settings, meticulous kinds of settings

814
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:18.360
<v Speaker 2>a ton of them, turning off Wi Fi Bluetooth when

815
00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:22.239
<v Speaker 2>not needed, limiting cellular data for specific apps, disabling tons

816
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:26.920
<v Speaker 2>of notification options, previews, lockscreen access, turning off location services

817
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:31.320
<v Speaker 2>entirely or per app, disabling motion, fitness tracking, analytics, sharing,

818
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:36.039
<v Speaker 2>personalized ads, appstore AutoPlay readings prompts, password security alerts, turning

819
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:40.039
<v Speaker 2>off imssage FaceTime if not used, disabling Safari suggestions, pre

820
00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:45.360
<v Speaker 2>load autofill, enabling website tracking prevention, disabling fraudulent website warnings,

821
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:49.519
<v Speaker 2>privacy trade off there disabling privacy preserving ad measurement, Apple paychecks,

822
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:52.840
<v Speaker 2>limiting safaris, access to camera and up the location, tweaking

823
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:56.840
<v Speaker 2>map settings, checking shortcuts, music, camera defaults, removing unused stock

824
00:39:56.840 --> 00:39:59.000
<v Speaker 2>apps and widgets. It's a long list.

825
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:02.239
<v Speaker 1>Wow, go through every single setting and turn off anything

826
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:04.360
<v Speaker 1>related to tracking, syncing, or phoning home.

827
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Pretty much. The goal is to neuter iOS's default data

828
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:08.519
<v Speaker 2>collection as much as possible.

829
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:11.320
<v Speaker 1>What about the Apple ID? Can you make that anonymous?

830
00:40:11.559 --> 00:40:15.400
<v Speaker 2>That's crucial too. His method get a new prepaid cellular

831
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:19.119
<v Speaker 2>number first activate it carefully, maybe needing carrier support initially,

832
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:22.599
<v Speaker 2>like with Mint. Then create a new Apple ID using

833
00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:25.719
<v Speaker 2>that prepaid number for verification. Don't use your real name

834
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:27.320
<v Speaker 2>or primary email.

835
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:29.639
<v Speaker 1>Use the burner phone number for the Apple ID right.

836
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Then lockdown settings within the Apple ID itself, disable recommendations iCloud,

837
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:38.280
<v Speaker 2>find my sharing, and configure privacy settings within apps like

838
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:42.559
<v Speaker 2>my Pseudo proton Mail Signal and iOS. Keep password manager

839
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:43.639
<v Speaker 2>apps read only on the.

840
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Phone backups for iPhone iCloud is out.

841
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:49.199
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely no iCloud for backups. If you're serious about privacy,

842
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:51.679
<v Speaker 2>use a USB cable to back up to a computer.

843
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:56.000
<v Speaker 2>On newer macOS, use Finder, or even better for just

844
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:58.679
<v Speaker 2>photos videos, use the built in image capture app. He

845
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:01.920
<v Speaker 2>prefers that it's less likely to pay Apple servers. Imazing

846
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:03.920
<v Speaker 2>is a paid tool that can help transfer music code

847
00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:06.079
<v Speaker 2>or data without iTunes Finder hassles.

848
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:08.719
<v Speaker 1>So the key is manual backups zero iCloud sync.

849
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:12.960
<v Speaker 2>That's the mantra for extreme privacy on iOS, disable iCloud completely.

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<v Speaker 1>What's his final take on iOS privacy?

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<v Speaker 2>Then, basically Apple collects a lot by default, but you

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<v Speaker 2>can make it significantly more private by changing all those settings.

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<v Speaker 2>Disabling iCloud, using an anonymous Apple ID tied to a

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<v Speaker 2>prepaid number, and being careful. It takes effort, but improvement

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<v Speaker 2>is possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, that was comprehensive. We've gone from buying the phone

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<v Speaker 1>with cash to configuring VoIP Twimmel bins and navigating the

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<v Speaker 1>labyrinth of iOS settings.

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<v Speaker 2>It really covers the spectrum of extreme mobile privacy, as

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<v Speaker 2>Mozille lays it out, and like he says, it's definitely

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<v Speaker 2>a journey. You don't have to do everything at.

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<v Speaker 1>Once, absolutely pick and choose what makes sense for your situation,

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<v Speaker 1>but even just understanding what's possible what goes into this

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<v Speaker 1>level of privacy is really valuable.

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<v Speaker 2>I think definitely. It makes you much more aware of

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<v Speaker 2>the defaults and the dataflow on any device you use.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you start with NEXDNAS, or try a privacy browser,

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<v Speaker 2>or get a voy a p number for signups. Small

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<v Speaker 2>steps add up.

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<v Speaker 1>So the thought to leave everyone with in this world

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<v Speaker 1>where we're always connected, always tracked in some way, what

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<v Speaker 1>does reclaiming your own digital space actually look like for you?

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<v Speaker 1>And what's one step, maybe inspired by this deep dive,

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<v Speaker 1>you could take to start creating that space
