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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Thursday. That means it's Pop and Bravo Thursday. I've

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<v Speaker 2>got my friend here. It's the beautiful Kate Casey Hillory. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing this episode a day before, but it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to come out on September eleventh. And yeah, September eleventh.

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<v Speaker 2>I lived in DC at the time. Yeah, i'd been

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<v Speaker 2>married less than a year. No, I lived I lived

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<v Speaker 2>in Virginia Beach, but I just moved from there. But

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<v Speaker 2>I had several friends that were there. One that was

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<v Speaker 2>a first responder at the Pentagon, and then my sister

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<v Speaker 2>was in World Trade Center seven, which is the Umbrella building,

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<v Speaker 2>so that one was partly destroyed. So and then I

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<v Speaker 2>was married at the time to somebody in the military

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<v Speaker 2>who was on deployment in a military town.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have many connections to nine to eleven. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a subject i'm deeply still fascinated by.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, me too, just because you know my story is

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<v Speaker 2>I was maybe if you've been listening for a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>you've heard it. I just was driving to work and

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<v Speaker 2>went right by the Pentagon, maybe less than twenty minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>right where it got hit. So when I to the

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<v Speaker 2>city or I was going, well, I was going from

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<v Speaker 2>Alexandria to Arlington. So I was still just like on

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<v Speaker 2>the roundabouts of Virginia there and like heading towards the

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<v Speaker 2>fourteenth Street bridge right got it, yea by the Pentagon

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<v Speaker 2>that you have to veer off, and then you go

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<v Speaker 2>into Arlington that way. The office was right there on

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<v Speaker 2>the water right by the Key Bridge going over into Georgetown,

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<v Speaker 2>That's where the office was. And so I'm just driving.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I was listening to Elliott in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just still a show on DC whe I won,

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<v Speaker 2>and he had been.

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<v Speaker 1>Folds ben Folds five.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I love that band.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love ben Folds, And so he was on

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<v Speaker 2>and he was literally singing a song and Elliott interrupted him,

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<v Speaker 2>was like, hey, I don't want to interrupt you, man,

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<v Speaker 2>but like some terrible news just happened. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>the whole the World Trade Center, you know, those buildings

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<v Speaker 2>have been hit. Oh, it's so crazy, And the interrupted

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<v Speaker 2>been Folds while he was singing. I remember thinking like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 2>We're not going to do that. I remember thinking like wow,

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<v Speaker 2>I get to my office park in the garage, go

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<v Speaker 2>up and all the TVs you know, of course, are

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<v Speaker 2>all on CNBC and blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah, and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>The ball starts rolling now maybe within twenty thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>The head of the firm came on on.

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<v Speaker 2>The last speakers. Everybody, get out, get only your personal belongings.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't worry about your computers. Everybody, just get out of

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<v Speaker 2>the building. Because we were I mean, you could see

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<v Speaker 2>the Pentagon on fire from our building. So of course

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<v Speaker 2>where our building was right there on the water across

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<v Speaker 2>you know, from Georgetown, we're right there on that on

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<v Speaker 2>the flight path, So I mean, helicopters would fly by

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<v Speaker 2>the window and you'd be like, holy shit, like you

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<v Speaker 2>always saw they were going to come right in. So

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<v Speaker 2>we all just left. And but then I couldn't go

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<v Speaker 2>home the correct way that I normally go home, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so bad with directions. There's no GPS or anything then,

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<v Speaker 2>so I ended up routing myself back into DC. Couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>get like I was like, I just need to get

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<v Speaker 2>to like three ninety five, four ninety five, the GW

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<v Speaker 2>Parkway is something to get back to Alexandria. And I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't figure it out, and you couldn't call anybody. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it was the only call that got through was my

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<v Speaker 2>boss to be like hey, Like I was on the

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<v Speaker 2>metro and like I heard that, like the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've got an appointment and so you and I go,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to your appointment, like something terrible has happened.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, well, you need to call over to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>uh Sterling Brown and Rubble to tell them I'm not coming.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm not doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember. I was like I'm not no.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I couldn't get another call cut, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>from anybody, for hours, and got home and like did

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<v Speaker 2>my computer and like emailed my family. Dave's mom. Her

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<v Speaker 2>story was that she she was in Oklahoma. She was

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<v Speaker 2>working in the yard, and she just left the house

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<v Speaker 2>and went to get her haircut. And when she was

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<v Speaker 2>getting your haircut, somebody said, oh my god, your son

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<v Speaker 2>lives in DC. Is he okay? And she goes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>why it had been hours. She didn't know anything. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 2>because she'd just been in the yard and they'd got

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<v Speaker 2>in her car and like she never it's just not

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty four hour news cycle. I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a twenty four hour news cycle then but we weren't

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<v Speaker 2>so attuned to it now then as we are now.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So for everybody out there, you know, whether you're

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<v Speaker 2>personally infected by or not, you know, all of us

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<v Speaker 2>have stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if you're like in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Middle of the country and nothing. You know, everybody has

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<v Speaker 2>a story. Everybody knows somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>It was such a.

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<v Speaker 2>Such a terrible thing, such a terrible thing. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>Dave when I I started washing the cars. Once we

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<v Speaker 2>both got home, What are you doing? He's like, what

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<v Speaker 2>else am I going to do? Sit here and watch TV.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, that's what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just like in a fog. At my house.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever since my kids were born, we go to the

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<v Speaker 3>fire and the police station and we bring them donuts

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<v Speaker 3>or bagels with cars.

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<v Speaker 1>You can do that. You're you gonna do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we always do that. And I'm rerunning tomorrow in

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<v Speaker 3>my episode in interview with Alison Crother, she's the mother

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<v Speaker 3>of Wells Brother, and I tell the story of Wells Brother,

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<v Speaker 3>who was a young guy actually just a few years

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<v Speaker 3>out of college. You went to Boston College. He was

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<v Speaker 3>a little cross team and he took a job in

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<v Speaker 3>finance and he worked in one of the one of

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<v Speaker 3>the firms in the South Tower, and so long story short,

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<v Speaker 3>Alison Crother's son does not come home after September eleventh,

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<v Speaker 3>works in one of the buildings, and she tells the story.

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<v Speaker 3>About six months later, she's reading the newspaper of an

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<v Speaker 3>account of the South Tower, and she screams out to

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<v Speaker 3>her husband, I found Wells. Well Wells's father had been

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<v Speaker 3>a fireman, and he had taught him since he was

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<v Speaker 3>a young boy to carry two handkerchiefs in his back pocket,

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<v Speaker 3>a red one and a white one. And after the attacks,

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<v Speaker 3>he had put a red bandana around his mouth and

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<v Speaker 3>had been going up and down the South Tower to

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<v Speaker 3>get people like out, and he was They found his

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<v Speaker 3>body months months later when he was with all the

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<v Speaker 3>firemen at the bottom of the building. And so in

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<v Speaker 3>the when she's reading the article, it's all these people

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<v Speaker 3>that have this recollection of this man with a red bandana,

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<v Speaker 3>And so they made a documentary about it, and there's

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<v Speaker 3>a children's book that people come buy to. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>a must have a few of kids. It's a great

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<v Speaker 3>story of heroism. And anyway, so I interviewed her a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of twenty twenty, and what I found what was

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<v Speaker 3>interesting was her going through how in a few days

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<v Speaker 3>before September eleventh, Wills was feeling very melancholy and she

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<v Speaker 3>found him in the living room and he was looking

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<v Speaker 3>at his old photo of like his I guess his

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<v Speaker 3>college picture or high school picture, and he was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of looking at it, and she's like, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>And he said, I just don't think I want to

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<v Speaker 3>work in finance anymore. I think I want to be

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<v Speaker 3>a firefighter. And then he would just sort of pause,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm forgetting the exact phrasing, but something along the

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<v Speaker 3>lines of I just feel like something's going to happen

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<v Speaker 3>in my life and it's going to be really big,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm going to find my purpose or something along

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<v Speaker 3>those lines.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>And then September eleventh happens. She keeps calling, she can't

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<v Speaker 3>get through, and I think it was after she read

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<v Speaker 3>that article. Maybe she says she talks about going into

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<v Speaker 3>the bathroom and there was like a gold plate thing

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<v Speaker 3>over the toilet paper, and she just sits in the

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<v Speaker 3>bathroom and for whatever is she starts counting, for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 3>just to kind of calm herself. And when she got

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<v Speaker 3>to this specific number, which happened to be the same

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<v Speaker 3>number his lacrosse jersey. The gold thing on top of

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<v Speaker 3>the toilet paper popped off, and she was like, that

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<v Speaker 3>has to be him. Also, h she felt a sense

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<v Speaker 3>of doom. It was like that morning or maybe the

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<v Speaker 3>day before, she just had this horrible feeling of doom.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's just like just going through all the premonitions

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<v Speaker 3>and the things in retrospect and also his legacy. So

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<v Speaker 3>at Boston College they have a special event for him

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<v Speaker 3>every year, and he's just become this like mythical figure

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<v Speaker 3>almost but a young man who had realized that maybe

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<v Speaker 3>he hadn't been in the right vocation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah and.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, anyway, that straight really stays with me. So I

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<v Speaker 3>like found his mom and I interviewed her and it

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<v Speaker 3>was very meaningful. So I replayed that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so that'll be out on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but if somebody is listening to this and they're like,

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to kind of take a moment and

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<v Speaker 3>go back and kind of think about those victims. One

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<v Speaker 3>thing I can recommend is I ended up interviewing the author.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an excellent book. It's called but the Only Plane

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<v Speaker 3>in the Sky, The Oral History of nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>It's by Gareth Graf Grff and the book goes through

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<v Speaker 3>beginning from the beginning of the day, and it's just

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<v Speaker 3>an oral history of people that were involved in nine

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<v Speaker 3>to eleven, everybody from investigations to family members. And they

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<v Speaker 3>include a lot of the transcripts of the people that

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<v Speaker 3>called from the planes or on voicemails. And so I

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<v Speaker 3>think for younger people they're kind of like, why is

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<v Speaker 3>this such a big deal. It's a big deal because

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of things. The way that we saw ourselves

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<v Speaker 3>and our own safety totally changed totally. And another thing

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<v Speaker 3>is like the rest of the world was completely on

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<v Speaker 3>our side, like with us standing in grief. You saw

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<v Speaker 3>memorials all across the entire globe. And it was this

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<v Speaker 3>weird moment in time where for a couple of days

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<v Speaker 3>is everyone was quiet and and and thoughtful about their

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<v Speaker 3>neighbor and we were all coming together for a collective movement.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just I can't imagine young people now even

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<v Speaker 3>imagining that because of the way that we are all

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<v Speaker 3>now in this very divisive spot in our in our world,

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<v Speaker 3>in our time. But that was really and like a

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<v Speaker 3>moment in time where everyone was just so shocked and

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<v Speaker 3>saddened and felt unmoored.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the whole country and in other countries as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You just felt unity.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know where we lived, right in Old Town, right,

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<v Speaker 2>not too far from the airport at all. At the time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there were no planes for months. Our neighborhood

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<v Speaker 2>was so quiet and there was no boats and there

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<v Speaker 2>was no We lived right about the train would it

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<v Speaker 1>No sounds? It was so quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>it was eerie for a long time. But but you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>our sense of just walking through the airport or whatnot,

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<v Speaker 2>all of that changed. And it's interesting you're saying all this,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm like, no, I'll never read that book, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, Like, I just I don't need to.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Okay, I know myself well enough, like when I

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<v Speaker 2>the nine to eleven stuff, because I you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean. Right. My sister who was

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<v Speaker 3>time where there were a lot of families that I

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<v Speaker 3>loved ones in fact, so weird. My niece is working

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<v Speaker 3>at Fox Sports and she's got a coworker and she said, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, his step father died on nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course my heart broke and he never met him

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<v Speaker 3>because his mom found out she was pregnant a week

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of stories like that, yeah, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>stories like that. And so I think that for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Read this book.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's very interesting what you're saying about younger

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<v Speaker 2>people not getting it, and you're right, like they.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't really know the details of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they don't know the details, and they don't and

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<v Speaker 2>they a lot of kids, and I'm just speaking for

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<v Speaker 2>the ones I know are all about the conspiracy theory

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<v Speaker 2>about it didn't happen or you know, I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I watched it on the news for weeks and weeks

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<v Speaker 2>and weeks, and it sure shit happened. And I surely

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<v Speaker 2>knew people that walked by and saw dead bodies on

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<v Speaker 2>the street, so it definitely happened.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was what our parents felt about case

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<v Speaker 3>assassination in Martin Luther King's assassination. It's it is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and uh yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so interesting because you don't think about how my

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<v Speaker 2>to walk into the airport just go on your plane,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what I mean? Like you just check

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<v Speaker 2>in and get your ticket and walk to your gate.

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<v Speaker 2>There was none of this metal detectors and take your

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<v Speaker 2>shoes off and that, you know all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually follow two different nine to eleven accounts, and

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<v Speaker 3>every day I it's like someone who died's birthday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And they do a wonderful job of kind of giving

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<v Speaker 3>the history of that person. And then sometimes I find

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<v Speaker 3>myself because I'm myself chasing who that person was, like

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<v Speaker 3>I want to find out more. And there have been

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<v Speaker 3>people that my sister has said, oh, so and so

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<v Speaker 3>from town and they lost someone in nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, I know who that person is because

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<v Speaker 3>I I read about them once.

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<v Speaker 2>do you have a photographic memory?

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<v Speaker 3>How do yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You actually do?

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<v Speaker 2>I do yeah, Because some of the things that you

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<v Speaker 2>come up with, I'm like, how on earth do you

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<v Speaker 2>pull that out? Like it's something that you remember from

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<v Speaker 2>like ten years ago, and do you remember sovividly? I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>how would you remember that so vividly?

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<v Speaker 3>I know. My friend Gina always laughs because she's like,

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<v Speaker 3>we hadn't talked for a little while, and you were like,

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<v Speaker 3>remember when you were when you were in elementary school

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<v Speaker 3>and you can never listen to the sound of music

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<v Speaker 3>to the part of adel Weis because that was the

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<v Speaker 3>song your grandmother used to sing to you when you

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<v Speaker 3>were a baby. She's like, you are so weird, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just can't. I can't turn it. I just cannot

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<v Speaker 3>turn it off. I can't turn it off, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>But I've said this before. I don't know if I've

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<v Speaker 3>said this to you, but it memory, my specific one

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<v Speaker 3>is called superior recall. And I was told by a

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<v Speaker 3>professor who works at the Memory Center at a University

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<v Speaker 3>of California orr VIE that it's often hereditary. There's no

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<v Speaker 3>correlation to intellect. It's just sort of sort of like

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<v Speaker 3>there's this area of your brain which is like there's

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<v Speaker 3>a bigger space, but it's yeah, hereditary, and it shows

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<v Speaker 3>up in different generations in a different way. So my grandmother,

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<v Speaker 3>my dad's mother, was a musician and she could see

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<v Speaker 3>a sheet of music and then remember it forever. And

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<v Speaker 3>then my dad can remember stuff about history, like if

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<v Speaker 3>you could ask him like when did Mary, Queen of

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<v Speaker 3>Scott's die or what he and he can tell you

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<v Speaker 3>the exact date. Mine is like specific details about people.

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<v Speaker 3>Trust me, I wish it was like for numbers or something.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like details about people, and so I'm always

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<v Speaker 3>kind of paying attention. I think two of my kids

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<v Speaker 3>have good memories, but I don't know if they have it.

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<v Speaker 3>But my mom also has. On my other side, my

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<v Speaker 3>mom is a really good memory too, But it's just

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<v Speaker 3>something you have or you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Like.

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<v Speaker 3>People often will say like you're like Mary Lou Henter,

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<v Speaker 3>she has she can remember every single day of her life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't. I don't have that. I think they are

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<v Speaker 3>only I thought that I read somewhere figure maybe like

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<v Speaker 3>forty five people in the country that have that specific thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy. My my friend Mary has a crazy memory

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<v Speaker 2>of dates, and you can. I will ask her sometimes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, how old is my nephew Thompson?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, is he thirty? Is he thirty two? She'll well, okay, well.

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<v Speaker 2>Sanford was born in nineteen ninety one, and so that

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<v Speaker 2>was two years later. So he was born in ninety three,

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<v Speaker 2>and so he was born on like what June fifth?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, so, like, she will know the birthdays

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<v Speaker 2>of all my nieces and nephews, like having heard it once.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>So she have kids? Do her kids have that too?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you not? Probably in a different way, I'll ask.

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<v Speaker 2>Her her one daughter got her master's recently at UVA,

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<v Speaker 2>and then her other daughter plays lacrosse at Dennison.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's great, so I'll have to ask her. She's

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<v Speaker 1>coming here tomorrow. I'm at the beach again. Everybody, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's really interesting. Every time I talk to you,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, how do you remember? I think the same

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<v Speaker 2>about Mary. She'll say, no, no, no, no, that didn't

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<v Speaker 2>happen because in nineteen seventy four this happened, and you

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<v Speaker 2>were born in sixty eight, so you definitely done, Dada.

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<v Speaker 2>You will only six, and I'm like, no, I remember it.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched that movie shows there's no way you watched

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<v Speaker 2>that movie because blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, you don't know. My parents will watch anything.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't care I think even know you. And then

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<v Speaker 3>you say that way, it's probably why I there's some

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<v Speaker 3>like docs that I really like find my like a vichy.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a music person. I don't really care about it,

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<v Speaker 3>but I feel like he had. I refer to it

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<v Speaker 3>as like a little like a mad genius. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't make any sense, but it's someone's specific thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel like he had that, like anybody that

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<v Speaker 3>has like something that's just so bizarre, but it's like different.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of feel like I I'm really into.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's sort of like.

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<v Speaker 2>Eddie Vedder, Billie Eilish, John Mayer all have that synesthesia.

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<v Speaker 1>Or whatever it is. Yeah, they hear.

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<v Speaker 2>Music as John Mayer hears music as shapes and colors,

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<v Speaker 2>and Eddie Vedder has said mostly his shapes, and Billie

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<v Speaker 2>Eilish says she really like when she sees a person,

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<v Speaker 2>she'll be like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, brown square, you know, but her dad has it too.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a little bit different, but I remember her.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I've heard her talk about it a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>But one time she said on Jimmy Kimmel and he goes, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what am I?

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<v Speaker 1>And no, sorry, Jimmy Fallon. He goes what.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes, No, you're you know you're yellow circle and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes why she goes, I don't know. That's when

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<v Speaker 2>I think of you. I think yellow circle. My dad

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<v Speaker 2>said brown square. So I don't know, you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's when they hear music. So John Mayer always looks

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<v Speaker 2>so orgasmic all the time because he closes his eyes

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<v Speaker 2>and all he sees his colors and shapes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think he has an album called Shapes

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<v Speaker 1>and Colors, Colors and Shapes.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, he realized it when he was young, and

424
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<v Speaker 2>Eddie Vedder has said he has that too. He closed

425
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<v Speaker 2>his eyes and the music all just appears to him

426
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<v Speaker 2>in shapes in his brain.

427
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<v Speaker 3>Well, like Jonathan Mark is like really close to me,

428
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<v Speaker 3>and he's a medium. It's like that's another thing. It's

429
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<v Speaker 3>like it's just the it is what it is, like,

430
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<v Speaker 3>that's he grew.

431
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<v Speaker 2>Up with that, he has that he has a Yeah,

432
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<v Speaker 2>it's icy dead people that's a good movie. If nobody

433
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<v Speaker 2>ever saw that, it's a great movie.

434
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<v Speaker 3>You know. He also made The Village. That was a

435
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<v Speaker 3>good one too.

436
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<v Speaker 2>I saw The Village m Night Shamalan and he made

437
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<v Speaker 2>another movie that scared the shit out of me. I

438
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<v Speaker 2>can't remember what it was then that was. That was

439
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<v Speaker 2>back when I probably watched scary movies. I don't watch

440
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<v Speaker 2>them anymore.

441
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<v Speaker 3>I know it's hard to watch scary movies. All of

442
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<v Speaker 3>his movies are made in the Philadelphia area. God bless God, Buss.

443
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<v Speaker 2>Oh thank you, shout out Philly. Well, we're not here

444
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<v Speaker 2>to talk about any of that now. First of all,

445
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<v Speaker 2>we have to announce everybody. Kate and I have a

446
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<v Speaker 2>side project. I'm gonna make a little note here. We

447
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<v Speaker 2>have a side project coming out together, and it's gonna

448
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<v Speaker 2>be we've semi fleshed it out, but it is coming

449
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<v Speaker 2>out next month.

450
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<v Speaker 1>So when Ingery is back in town, we'll have it

451
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<v Speaker 1>fully done.

452
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<v Speaker 2>But it's gonna be called tell Me Everything with Kate

453
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<v Speaker 2>and Mary Payne, because I'll call Kate and I'll go,

454
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<v Speaker 2>let me tell you this.

455
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<v Speaker 1>She'll go tell me everything.

456
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<v Speaker 2>Or she called me yesterday and she said, oh my god,

457
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<v Speaker 2>let me tell you about this thing in my neighborhood.

458
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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, tell me, tell me, tell me everything.

459
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<v Speaker 3>So, oh, that was the mom, the mom that got arrested.

460
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<v Speaker 1>Your that was your story. That was good.

461
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<v Speaker 2>So when my sister was recently in town and my

462
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<v Speaker 2>other friend we sat around and kind of talked about

463
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of these stories. I was like, oh my god,

464
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<v Speaker 2>I've got like six stories I could tell Kate already.

465
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<v Speaker 2>The first one I've been fleshing out because I am

466
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<v Speaker 2>changing the names and the places and you know, and

467
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<v Speaker 2>nobody's going to go and look these people up or anything.

468
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<v Speaker 2>But I wouldn't want anybody to get their feelings hurt.

469
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<v Speaker 2>But some of the stories and that you haven't heard them,

470
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<v Speaker 2>that's the point. I'm going to tell you a story

471
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<v Speaker 2>that you don't know, and you're going to tell me

472
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<v Speaker 2>a story I don't know. And it could be from

473
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<v Speaker 2>the news and the way I came up.

474
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<v Speaker 1>With this idea.

475
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<v Speaker 2>Kate did a show on her Patreon where she just

476
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<v Speaker 2>talked about, No, you haven't told me that one. No,

477
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<v Speaker 2>this was about the r Gina guy who owned the bowling.

478
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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's right, so written here and.

479
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<v Speaker 2>I heard you tell that story on your Patreon, and

480
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<v Speaker 2>I go, oh my god, I just want Kate to

481
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<v Speaker 2>tell me stories I don't know, and I also don't

482
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<v Speaker 2>want to have to research it and read a twenty

483
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<v Speaker 2>page Vanity far artle.

484
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because there are crazy people, and you're a crazy

485
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<v Speaker 3>person at times too, where you just like rabbit hole

486
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<v Speaker 3>it and I you have somebny that's done the rabbit

487
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<v Speaker 3>hole for me.

488
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, And so this is going to be on

489
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<v Speaker 2>both of our Patreon feeds, whatever, Patrions, super gass, Apple,

490
00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:36.759
<v Speaker 2>you know all the places. It's going to be on

491
00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:39.960
<v Speaker 2>the ten dollars level for me. You're going to add

492
00:23:39.960 --> 00:23:43.000
<v Speaker 2>a ten dollars level for you, so it will be equal.

493
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<v Speaker 2>But guys, it'll be every other week. So it'll be

494
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<v Speaker 2>the first week will be on Kate show because it's

495
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<v Speaker 2>going to be me telling her a story. The next

496
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<v Speaker 2>week will be Kate on my show. She's going to

497
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<v Speaker 2>tell me a story. So if you want to hear

498
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<v Speaker 2>all of it, you've got to subscribe to both. That's

499
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<v Speaker 2>how we get you. But it's going to be worth it.

500
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<v Speaker 3>I think the first one I'm going to tell you

501
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<v Speaker 3>about it is my cousin story about my cousin.

502
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, are you, But do you have to pretend

503
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<v Speaker 2>that it's not your cousin or you're going to say

504
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<v Speaker 2>it's your cousin.

505
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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm going to say it. Yeah, I have nothing

506
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<v Speaker 3>to hide.

507
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<v Speaker 2>Some of my stories I am going to have to

508
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<v Speaker 2>change the names to protect that guilty and innocent.

509
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<v Speaker 1>And I could tell you also the detailed story of

510
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<v Speaker 1>my family murder.

511
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<v Speaker 2>That's a good Yeah, that's a good one. But I

512
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<v Speaker 2>think but I think you already know it. So I

513
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<v Speaker 2>want to tell you a story that you don't know

514
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<v Speaker 2>so that you have a questions. So that's the premise guys,

515
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<v Speaker 2>when Inger gets back and really gonna flesh out. Look,

516
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<v Speaker 2>all we have is a title and a logo, and

517
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<v Speaker 2>I've written out a few notes. But it is going

518
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<v Speaker 2>to happen in October, so be on the lookout for that.

519
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<v Speaker 3>Somebody should start a podcast and call it Stories for Days. Okay, well,

520
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<v Speaker 3>it's not gonna I have another idea. Brian Howie and I.

521
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<v Speaker 3>You know my friend Brian who's going through cancer treatments.

522
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<v Speaker 3>He is owns a podcast company. We with his help, like,

523
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<v Speaker 3>we've come up with the concept of a podcast. We

524
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<v Speaker 3>just need the two people who would be willing to

525
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<v Speaker 3>be the host of it, okay. So it so it's

526
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<v Speaker 3>basically off of an idea that he did where he

527
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<v Speaker 3>was going to make a podcast where he gave parenting

528
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<v Speaker 3>advice although he does not have any children okay. And

529
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<v Speaker 3>he took a picture for the for the you know,

530
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<v Speaker 3>the the art art thank you, and it was him

531
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<v Speaker 3>with all my five kids on a couch okay. And

532
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<v Speaker 3>I was like, you know what would be really funny

533
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<v Speaker 3>if you had a person who has zero children giving

534
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<v Speaker 3>parent advice co hosting a show with a person who

535
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<v Speaker 3>like is a CEO with the and okay. So it's

536
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<v Speaker 3>like this, there's a person who's a CEO who doesn't

537
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<v Speaker 3>have any children okay, and they're giving somebody who has

538
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<v Speaker 3>children advice on parenting okay. And the parent who is

539
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<v Speaker 3>not a working person is giving the CEO business advice.

540
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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

541
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<v Speaker 3>So each episod So they come up with a scenario

542
00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:05.119
<v Speaker 3>in each of their pockets of lives. But the person

543
00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:09.240
<v Speaker 3>who is not with children or without like a company

544
00:26:09.720 --> 00:26:12.119
<v Speaker 3>that they're in charge of, has to give the other

545
00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:14.799
<v Speaker 3>person advice because I have to believe that there's some

546
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<v Speaker 3>nugget in the madness of someone who doesn't have your

547
00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:22.839
<v Speaker 3>same life experience that you can take away. Yeah. Absolutely,

548
00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:24.920
<v Speaker 3>we need to find the people who would be the

549
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<v Speaker 3>perfect host for that.

550
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, nobody steal this idea. It's Kate Casey's idea. It's

551
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<v Speaker 2>TM patented and trademark. Do not steal this idea. If

552
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<v Speaker 2>you do, we have this weak back on. Yeah, it's

553
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<v Speaker 2>a great idea.

554
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

555
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<v Speaker 3>Got to find the right people though, So it has

556
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<v Speaker 3>to the CEO without children and then a parent who

557
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<v Speaker 3>has children who does not work.

558
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<v Speaker 2>I was just gonna say it could be that CEO

559
00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:50.279
<v Speaker 2>that got called at the Coldplay concert, but he's out

560
00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:51.720
<v Speaker 2>of a job and he does have kids, and he

561
00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:54.759
<v Speaker 2>does have children, and also he makes bad choices.

562
00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:58.079
<v Speaker 3>He makes terrible choices. But that's kind of the funny

563
00:26:58.119 --> 00:27:00.839
<v Speaker 3>thing is like some of the You're Gonna go you

564
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:03.799
<v Speaker 3>were an absolute moron, because Brian and we came up

565
00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:05.279
<v Speaker 3>with him and he would like, try to give me

566
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:07.880
<v Speaker 3>advice on something, and I'd like, you have no fucking

567
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:10.319
<v Speaker 3>idea what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, and you're laughing

568
00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:14.680
<v Speaker 3>because you're like, that is pretty funny. Yeah, what they

569
00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:17.880
<v Speaker 3>think parenting might be like. But then sometimes you're like well,

570
00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:20.000
<v Speaker 3>because you're not in the thick of it. That actually

571
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<v Speaker 3>kind of is a genius idea.

572
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:24.200
<v Speaker 1>To step back and be like, oh, actually maybe that

573
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<v Speaker 1>might work.

574
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because children, they've got high organizational skills, they deal

575
00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:32.319
<v Speaker 3>with stress all the time. They might actually have some

576
00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:35.480
<v Speaker 3>really great insight for a situation in a company.

577
00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've got people management skills for sure, especially if

578
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<v Speaker 2>they've got you know, five kids like you do.

579
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and you know, I don't know how you

580
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<v Speaker 1>do it all, But that's day.

581
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<v Speaker 3>The funniest thing is when people ask me for parenting advice.

582
00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:51.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, why would you ask me? I mean, I

583
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:56.200
<v Speaker 3>five is but I'm halfway halfway okay with my own kids,

584
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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. So your kids are your

585
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:02.039
<v Speaker 3>own and they have their own personalities. I remember I

586
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:04.680
<v Speaker 3>interviewed the super nanny and I was so annoyed before

587
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:07.119
<v Speaker 3>this whole thing. I was like, she doesn't even have kids,

588
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:09.839
<v Speaker 3>what does she know? And then she said something like, well,

589
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:15.559
<v Speaker 3>you know your kids, but you don't know other people's kids.

590
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<v Speaker 3>I thought, you know what, You're right, I don't know,

591
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:21.079
<v Speaker 3>right I give advice to another parent when I don't

592
00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:22.839
<v Speaker 3>know their I don't know the ins and outs of

593
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:24.440
<v Speaker 3>their kids and how they work and everything.

594
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, that's a lot of times when you have

595
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:28.200
<v Speaker 2>to go to your close friend to be like, okay,

596
00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:30.079
<v Speaker 2>you know how I get operates, you know what this

597
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:31.720
<v Speaker 2>is like in my house? Like what do you think

598
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<v Speaker 2>you know? Yeah, ook, that's a great idea. Okay, well

599
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:41.400
<v Speaker 2>you know TM, nobody steal it. Okay, you guys, let's

600
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:44.720
<v Speaker 2>talk about Real Housewives of Miami. Are you enjoying this season?

601
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:48.400
<v Speaker 3>I always love that show. I think the thing that

602
00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:50.799
<v Speaker 3>really stands out to me. And I asked Matt about this,

603
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<v Speaker 3>Why does your show look so much better aesthetically than

604
00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:59.480
<v Speaker 3>other shows? And he said it's because they spend so

605
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<v Speaker 3>much time I'm in post edit with the colors on

606
00:29:02.240 --> 00:29:05.079
<v Speaker 3>the screen, like to make it pop, because Miami is

607
00:29:05.119 --> 00:29:10.119
<v Speaker 3>such like a colorful it has its own specific look. Yeah,

608
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:13.839
<v Speaker 3>and he said they just it's really important to them

609
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<v Speaker 3>the way the colors pop on screen, and it's such

610
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:20.000
<v Speaker 3>like a specific small thing that really does make a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I love I just love Marisol. I want

612
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<v Speaker 1>her to be my friend.

613
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<v Speaker 3>No, and she's the best clothes she and Kiki, I

614
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:29.720
<v Speaker 3>think at the best clothes of all housewives.

615
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I loved.

616
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<v Speaker 2>I loved the episode this week with Kiki talking to

617
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<v Speaker 2>her dad and saying, like, you kicked me out when

618
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I was fifteen. He's like, oh, well, you know that's

619
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:43.160
<v Speaker 2>what happened. She's like, uh fifteen mm.

620
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<v Speaker 3>She's like, well, I remember, that's yeah, that's what it

621
00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:48.400
<v Speaker 3>was is I remember I interviewed her about that. She

622
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:51.640
<v Speaker 3>said the wife didn't like her awful and by the way,

623
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:53.799
<v Speaker 3>she where did she go? She didn't have any money.

624
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:57.160
<v Speaker 3>She got to Miami and they were like, you're like,

625
00:29:57.240 --> 00:29:59.240
<v Speaker 3>you're out of here, and she had to figure out

626
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:02.000
<v Speaker 3>a way to like eat, like have food. I mean,

627
00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:03.519
<v Speaker 3>just really out on her own.

628
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<v Speaker 2>That's awful. Well, anyway, I loved that. Seeing with her dad.

629
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<v Speaker 2>I have to assume he's not with that woman anymore.

630
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<v Speaker 3>But oh he's like a lithario, Like he bounces. He's

631
00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:15.400
<v Speaker 3>got kids from a couple of different women, and he

632
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<v Speaker 3>gets bored easily. Okay, well, all right, y'all.

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636
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645
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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I loved this week being on the Virgin Vote. Now

664
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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tell you something interesting. And I hope

665
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:52.960
<v Speaker 2>that you cannot hear my messages dinging, because I talked

666
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:54.759
<v Speaker 2>about this all the time on the show. I have

667
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:57.799
<v Speaker 2>it on Do not Disturb. But what I've discovered a

668
00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:01.039
<v Speaker 2>monkey told me if somebody's in your emergency content, even

669
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:03.359
<v Speaker 2>if it's a do not disturb, it will still come through.

670
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:04.519
<v Speaker 2>And that really bothers me.

671
00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh, who is it? Anna?

672
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:08.279
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's all three, it's everybody in my family.

673
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:11.759
<v Speaker 2>They're talking about the guy that Charlie Kirk shooting.

674
00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>That's what they're talking about.

675
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:15.200
<v Speaker 2>So now they're just going back and forth about violence.

676
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:17.559
<v Speaker 2>It's not the answer, and I'm like, yeah, quit texting.

677
00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:20.680
<v Speaker 2>So and then a message I got from another from

678
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Dave while we've been sitting.

679
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Here is what is violence? Birthday the dog.

680
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:29.079
<v Speaker 3>But he's BRILLIANTO. Those dogs, it's really astounding.

681
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Loves the dogs.

682
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:32.480
<v Speaker 3>He really loves your dogs.

683
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Really. Yeah, we had a landscape or come here, he's

684
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>a house today to get.

685
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:37.839
<v Speaker 3>Very concerned about them all the time.

686
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:39.640
<v Speaker 1>To get a place. Yeah, so they have a good

687
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:40.440
<v Speaker 1>place to go potty.

688
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, sure, anyway, okay, I forgot Marisol, and now forgot

689
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:47.400
<v Speaker 2>what I was saying.

690
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh, the Virgin the Virgin boat. So here's something interesting.

691
00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:56.119
<v Speaker 2>I since I don't cover any housewived shows turn by turn,

692
00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:59.400
<v Speaker 2>I love to listen to our friends Ben and Ronnie.

693
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, so they're coming uh, they're coming on together

694
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:03.160
<v Speaker 2>in a couple.

695
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Of weeks here. So I was listening to their show

696
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:06.759
<v Speaker 1>before I came on with you.

697
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:11.440
<v Speaker 2>And at the beginning, and I listened on Wondery Boo Wondery,

698
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:15.920
<v Speaker 2>I listened mad at Wondering. I listened to Wondery the

699
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:19.200
<v Speaker 2>app and it's supposed to be add free, but it

700
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<v Speaker 2>was a full three minutes and them talking about the

701
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:24.559
<v Speaker 2>Virgin Cruise and how great the Virgin Cruise was. And

702
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:27.880
<v Speaker 2>this show is sponsored by Virgin Cruises. Oh so Ben

703
00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:30.279
<v Speaker 2>and Ronnie got an ad for Virgin.

704
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Cruises to go with that. Episode.

705
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:33.079
<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

706
00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:33.799
<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

707
00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh my god, can you imagine Ben and

708
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.359
<v Speaker 2>Ronnie in that rock star suite?

709
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:43.759
<v Speaker 3>You know? Can I tell you my Richard Branson story?

710
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:48.759
<v Speaker 3>Of course, my husband went to his island on a

711
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:52.559
<v Speaker 3>trip with like a business trip with and I rich.

712
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Was he there was Richard Branson there.

713
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. They played tennis together every morning. And Dan, my

714
00:33:56.559 --> 00:34:00.240
<v Speaker 3>husband's a really good tennis player, like, yeah, we have

715
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:02.319
<v Speaker 3>tennis channel on in my house. So like he's obsessed.

716
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:07.599
<v Speaker 3>And he was like kind of not putting his health.

717
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:10.880
<v Speaker 3>Physical health is a priority at this time that he

718
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:13.159
<v Speaker 3>went to visit. It was not too long ago. You

719
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:17.800
<v Speaker 3>mean your husband or your husband? Okay, yeah, so wait

720
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:20.880
<v Speaker 3>I should tell you, like no for that. He the

721
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:23.800
<v Speaker 3>guy works seven days a week. Like he works, he

722
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:25.840
<v Speaker 3>comes home. He doesn't like, he doesn't have a lot

723
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:27.679
<v Speaker 3>of time for other stuff. He does play tennis, that's it.

724
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:31.880
<v Speaker 3>So Richard says to him, He's like, what's going on, Dan,

725
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:34.360
<v Speaker 3>And so like they sit at the tennis court and

726
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:37.280
<v Speaker 3>he's like, you know, I'm really overwhelmed with work. And

727
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:40.320
<v Speaker 3>Richard Branson was like, your health has to pre a

728
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:42.079
<v Speaker 3>priority and this is what you have to do. And

729
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:43.599
<v Speaker 3>he came back from that trip and he went to

730
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<v Speaker 3>every he got a colin oscoby, he went here, he

731
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:48.800
<v Speaker 3>went here, he went to all the kinds of doctors

732
00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:53.960
<v Speaker 3>that one needs to make sure and like it was

733
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<v Speaker 3>a couple of weeks ago. Dan said, I really got

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<v Speaker 3>handed to him, Like he made a huge difference in

735
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:00.360
<v Speaker 3>my life. Like I really like he It was like,

736
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:05.320
<v Speaker 3>your children need you to be at your peak health. Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at Richard Branson and he said, he is totally

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<v Speaker 3>devoted to his wife and kids. They have a property there.

739
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:14.960
<v Speaker 3>He spends a lot of his time there, but like

740
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<v Speaker 3>crazy about his wife. And if you watch the documentary

741
00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:21.519
<v Speaker 3>The Disruptors, if anybody in your life has ADHD as

742
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:25.639
<v Speaker 3>as I do, he's he's in it and he talks

743
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:28.159
<v Speaker 3>about how he had eight well he has ADHD and

744
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:31.320
<v Speaker 3>dyslexia and his experience in school and he's like a

745
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:35.960
<v Speaker 3>really good example of someone who on paper would not

746
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:41.239
<v Speaker 3>have done well in school. However, has used his focused

747
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:46.679
<v Speaker 3>disorder to kind of create his own lane and has

748
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:50.239
<v Speaker 3>become massively successful. But is also very charitable.

749
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that is one thing to hear about him, that

750
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:53.440
<v Speaker 1>he's charitable.

751
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:55.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, he was charitable enough to give Vin and Ronnie

752
00:35:55.599 --> 00:36:00.599
<v Speaker 2>some money for their show and not us, and God

753
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:06.480
<v Speaker 2>bless and let these ladies onto the boat. And I listen,

754
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:09.719
<v Speaker 2>I've thought a lot. I love every so often just

755
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:10.960
<v Speaker 2>hop on a little cruise, I.

756
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:13.639
<v Speaker 3>Do, and never going on a cruise ever again.

757
00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm telling you, Disney Cruise way to go. You know,

758
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:20.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't even like Disney. Nope, it was the best

759
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:21.199
<v Speaker 1>thing we ever did.

760
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:24.760
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, cases really ruined the cruise industry.

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00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, oh okay, well okay, So the Virgin Cruise, you know,

762
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:32.480
<v Speaker 1>it's adults.

763
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Only, and so in my mind, I'm like, oh my god,

764
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:36.360
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be like going to hedonism or something like.

765
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:37.119
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be gross.

766
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<v Speaker 2>But people, you know, like it's just going to be

767
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:40.880
<v Speaker 2>like necking people in the hot tub swingers part.

768
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:43.000
<v Speaker 1>But people that have been on those cruises.

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00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Virgin Cruises, SAD is very different and very nice, and

770
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:50.119
<v Speaker 2>it's not super expensive. It does literally go like Miami

771
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:52.480
<v Speaker 2>to Biminy and then like back. It only has like

772
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:54.760
<v Speaker 2>three stops, so it really is like if you're just

773
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:57.119
<v Speaker 2>trying to like go for four days with some girlfriends,

774
00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:59.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't. They may have some boats now that do

775
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:02.079
<v Speaker 2>other things, but it's interesting in the cruise industry that

776
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:04.519
<v Speaker 2>somebody could put out like new boats, a new brand

777
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:08.480
<v Speaker 2>and have it be successful. Yeah, definitely, and it looks

778
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:12.079
<v Speaker 2>nice and what do you okay the arguments that we

779
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:14.719
<v Speaker 2>have now, I can't quite remember who's mad at who,

780
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.880
<v Speaker 2>because but I did like all sitting down with Stephanie

781
00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:20.559
<v Speaker 2>and saying, you don't need to talk about how much

782
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:22.000
<v Speaker 2>everything costs all the time.

783
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:26.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, well, that's an archetype. Usually of the tropes

784
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:30.719
<v Speaker 3>of the Housewives, the newcomer tends to be so insecure

785
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:33.280
<v Speaker 3>they overdo it and they like get over the top

786
00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:35.039
<v Speaker 3>closed or they have to talk about their money all

787
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:38.280
<v Speaker 3>the time. That's definitely like a first season kind of mistake.

788
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:41.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure she'll chill out. I also have some concerns

789
00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:50.000
<v Speaker 3>because she's so chatty about income. That's to me like karmic.

790
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:53.800
<v Speaker 3>The karmic reality is you're probably going to be involved

791
00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:56.199
<v Speaker 3>in some sort of financial fallout.

792
00:37:56.599 --> 00:37:59.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, a listener wrote me and said that the house

793
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<v Speaker 2>that she showed that they were you know where she

794
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:02.800
<v Speaker 2>showed lars of the closet with this walls for the

795
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Burkins and all that was already in foreclosure, and that

796
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:07.079
<v Speaker 2>hadn't even moved in.

797
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:09.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a problem.

798
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:09.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

799
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So anytime somebody talks about like their wealth and

800
00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:16.719
<v Speaker 3>their things, I'm always win sying. I'm like, this is

801
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:17.920
<v Speaker 3>going to come back and don't haunt you.

802
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I did, like a Marasol set her down.

803
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:24.920
<v Speaker 2>I love every time they show Marasol's cute, little tiny

804
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:25.880
<v Speaker 2>perfect I love that.

805
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:27.679
<v Speaker 3>That's probably one of my favorite houses and all of

806
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:31.239
<v Speaker 3>us wives. It's like so adorable and clean and clean

807
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:35.000
<v Speaker 3>lines and just the spacial landscaping. I love it. I

808
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:40.320
<v Speaker 3>also asked Matt Anderson, the executive producer, about each of

809
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:43.360
<v Speaker 3>the women and what's something when we don't know, we

810
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:49.360
<v Speaker 3>don't get okay, And he said Marisol's step kids adore her. Yeah,

811
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:53.000
<v Speaker 3>like I love love hanging out with her, And I

812
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:53.760
<v Speaker 3>thought that was cool.

813
00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>What did you have to say about Adriana because she

814
00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:56.719
<v Speaker 1>just bugs.

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<v Speaker 3>She's really really smart. She's like very cultured art history, piano.

816
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:06.920
<v Speaker 3>She's very cultured, and it's like a really fun person

817
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:11.039
<v Speaker 3>to talk to because she knows a lot of different things.

818
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:15.880
<v Speaker 2>What did he say that would be interested to know

819
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:18.440
<v Speaker 2>about Gerdy Because I feel like we know everything about Gerty.

820
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.079
<v Speaker 3>That her husband is. I don't know. It wasn't really

821
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:24.480
<v Speaker 3>about Gerty, but it was about her. Her husband's like

822
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:28.280
<v Speaker 3>a huge star wars nerd and that they're like the

823
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:31.599
<v Speaker 3>whole family's really close. Like I mean, you kind of

824
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:33.599
<v Speaker 3>get a sense of that, but he's just reiterating like

825
00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:34.840
<v Speaker 3>they're very, very close.

826
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<v Speaker 1>Gerty Is.

827
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<v Speaker 3>I've got a soft spot for her because I think

828
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:44.599
<v Speaker 3>that she's probably somebody who's got like a focused disorder.

829
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:47.159
<v Speaker 3>She's like super super creative, and when she's in a

830
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:52.239
<v Speaker 3>zone for work, it's like magic. But then outside of

831
00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:54.719
<v Speaker 3>work she's sign of like in a couple different places,

832
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:59.960
<v Speaker 3>and I don't know, I never get the sense for

833
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:03.719
<v Speaker 3>her that she wants that she's cunning or manipulative. I

834
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<v Speaker 3>think she's like, at her heart, like a girl, a

835
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<v Speaker 3>girl's girl, and like a good person.

836
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<v Speaker 2>So speaking to tennis, you know us opened was just

837
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<v Speaker 2>on and so we watched a lot of it, and

838
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<v Speaker 2>we watched the final match with Alcoraz and.

839
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<v Speaker 1>Cinner. I always want to say Skinner but at center and.

840
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<v Speaker 3>Dan went there by the way, Oh he did, Yeah,

841
00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:29.480
<v Speaker 3>he thought for a day so he could go. I'm

842
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:30.400
<v Speaker 3>telling you he's like a dork.

843
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:32.639
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but that's great. I love it so we I

844
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:34.760
<v Speaker 2>would love to do that too. So we were watching

845
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:39.000
<v Speaker 2>it and something they showed a clip of something, you know,

846
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:41.639
<v Speaker 2>something from the past and Martina Navatrola and they were

847
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:44.800
<v Speaker 2>talking about, oh, Yvonne Lindall is here when he was

848
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:47.159
<v Speaker 2>presenting the thing, and got my husband and I talking

849
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:49.800
<v Speaker 2>and I said, oh, you know earlier they showed Martina

850
00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:51.239
<v Speaker 2>and Naviatrola. I said, you know, she's on the Real

851
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Housewise in Miami. He's like what, He's still so upset

852
00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:59.400
<v Speaker 2>about Charles Oakley being on Real Housewives of Atlanta.

853
00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh, He's like what.

854
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:04.199
<v Speaker 2>I said, Yeah, she's married to this woman, Julia, and

855
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:06.480
<v Speaker 2>they actually just had their anniversary because she posted about

856
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:08.320
<v Speaker 2>the US Open is so special dust, It's where we

857
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:12.280
<v Speaker 2>got engaged. And Dave's like, god, I mean to him,

858
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:14.400
<v Speaker 2>that is like the lowest of the love of the

859
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:15.840
<v Speaker 2>trashiest of the trash.

860
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:18.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, not Miami, not, but just to be on

861
00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:19.159
<v Speaker 1>a real housewive show.

862
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:22.199
<v Speaker 3>There was a clip too where there was a couple

863
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:24.119
<v Speaker 3>that got engaged to the US Open, and they showed

864
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:26.119
<v Speaker 3>a clip of it and Martina was on the panel.

865
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:29.400
<v Speaker 3>It was like four people. Yeah, and this gulp this

866
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:32.119
<v Speaker 3>stranger is getting engaged, and the one woman on the

867
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:36.800
<v Speaker 3>panel goes, that is the definition of like like cheesiness,

868
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:39.159
<v Speaker 3>like the fact that something she's like that is an

869
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:41.719
<v Speaker 3>absolute cheese move or whatever she said, I forget the

870
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:44.840
<v Speaker 3>exact freezing. And then Martina goes, well, you know, I

871
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:48.280
<v Speaker 3>proposed to Julia like eleven years ago and she was like,

872
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:51.199
<v Speaker 3>my bad. And I was like everyone has had that

873
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:53.679
<v Speaker 3>moment in life where you're like, oh please, blah blah blah,

874
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:56.679
<v Speaker 3>and then you're like, oh, I'm horrible.

875
00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:59.360
<v Speaker 2>But this way they were calling her Marty. I was like, Oh,

876
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:01.559
<v Speaker 2>now she's like, what are we doing? Are we trying

877
00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:04.679
<v Speaker 2>to lighten up Martina to feel like she's fun and light.

878
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't find her fun and light. I find her

879
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:10.039
<v Speaker 2>to be like stunned at the position she's found herself.

880
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:13.840
<v Speaker 3>I've always wanted to interview her though, because I like

881
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:17.360
<v Speaker 3>her escape out of Checkolslovakia. I feel I've very interesting.

882
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I think that's interesting.

883
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:22.360
<v Speaker 2>But I think she is like, how do you think

884
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.079
<v Speaker 2>Martina and Abertilova is getting paid by this show?

885
00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:28.960
<v Speaker 3>Uh? No, I think she really loves Julia and wants

886
00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:30.800
<v Speaker 3>her to have something for herself.

887
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:33.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I mean, like you can't imagine that, like

888
00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Lenny was getting paid when he was with Lisa, like

889
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:38.159
<v Speaker 2>the spouse is don't get paid. He wanted her to

890
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:40.519
<v Speaker 2>be on the show because it helped him get away

891
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:45.039
<v Speaker 2>from her. No, I helped his business, surgery business. But

892
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:49.119
<v Speaker 2>I think so he had an agenda, and I think

893
00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:51.519
<v Speaker 2>Terry Dubrow had an agenda. I think the Heather being

894
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:54.679
<v Speaker 2>on the show helped his business immensely.

895
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:56.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure. I think she has said it too, like

896
00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:57.599
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to be on the show, but he

897
00:42:57.639 --> 00:42:58.679
<v Speaker 3>wanted to be on the show.

898
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:01.079
<v Speaker 2>Did you like on the the episode with the light

899
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:04.320
<v Speaker 2>detector where she admitted she'd rather be on the Rouse Beverly.

900
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:06.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think it was like, okay, yeah, we all

901
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:09.079
<v Speaker 3>know that she doesn't live here. She lives she does

902
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:11.480
<v Speaker 3>not own a home in the County of Orange.

903
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:14.599
<v Speaker 1>So crazy, it's hilarious. And she goes, what I live

904
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:17.840
<v Speaker 1>closer to them Sti's just let her do it. Just

905
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:19.719
<v Speaker 1>let her go over there, just do it.

906
00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:23.079
<v Speaker 3>Also, let her go her you know, it's really hard

907
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:28.119
<v Speaker 3>when you have like a bunch of kids, when you

908
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:30.480
<v Speaker 3>kind of are in the mindset or in the social

909
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:34.159
<v Speaker 3>groups of your older kids. And as your kids get older,

910
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:37.559
<v Speaker 3>I mean I find this with like my my kids

911
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:40.960
<v Speaker 3>range from junior in high school to first grade. So

912
00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:44.000
<v Speaker 3>the first grade parents like they're this is these that

913
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:46.440
<v Speaker 3>child is their oldest. They've got little kids at home,

914
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:50.679
<v Speaker 3>and there is like this, yes, disconnect and you're kind

915
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:52.880
<v Speaker 3>of I feel like going through life with your oldest

916
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.639
<v Speaker 3>kids like tribe. And so I think a lot of

917
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:59.119
<v Speaker 3>what Heather and Terry face is like their tribe of friends.

918
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:02.039
<v Speaker 3>Their kids are off in college. There's don't even come

919
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:05.400
<v Speaker 3>back to it. So they're physically and mentally not in

920
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:09.440
<v Speaker 3>Orange County anymore. Right, even though they have their youngest

921
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:12.679
<v Speaker 3>one is in the eighth grade, so they do have

922
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:14.679
<v Speaker 3>and ones going off clubs or the youngest one still

923
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:17.360
<v Speaker 3>has you know five you know, five more years here.

924
00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:20.960
<v Speaker 3>But they're in their heads, they're they're not there.

925
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Their youngest one is the youngest one ace yes.

926
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:29.480
<v Speaker 3>Eighth grader, okay, eighth and keighth grade ye in l A.

927
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:34.039
<v Speaker 3>No wait, maybe they're in seventh. They're not, you know what,

928
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:35.599
<v Speaker 3>I think they're in seventh.

929
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:39.920
<v Speaker 1>But in the OC are in la in l A, Okay.

930
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:43.000
<v Speaker 3>So now their kids still and and Katerina. She went

931
00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:46.639
<v Speaker 3>to high school senior year in l A too, So

932
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:48.360
<v Speaker 3>they don't go to I'm telling you, they don't have

933
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:50.079
<v Speaker 3>a property year. There's no reason to be here. Their

934
00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:53.360
<v Speaker 3>kids go to school in lad Well.

935
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay's speaking of oz. Okay, let's try to let's try

936
00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:58.880
<v Speaker 2>to figure out if we can break this down. Okay,

937
00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:02.920
<v Speaker 2>because I have heard lots of you know, podcasters and

938
00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:05.960
<v Speaker 2>stuff explain it, which is helpful because even though I

939
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:10.039
<v Speaker 2>watch every episode, I'm still like, wait, huh so, and

940
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:12.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't even understand how Kiki Monique, who we both

941
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:15.880
<v Speaker 2>know and it's a completely normal, nice person, how she

942
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:17.000
<v Speaker 2>got dragged into this?

943
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:20.880
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So all you need to know is Kiki went

944
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:23.519
<v Speaker 3>out with Katie. Katie like met with a bunch of

945
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:25.840
<v Speaker 3>different people in the off season, like, oh, you know

946
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:29.480
<v Speaker 3>you're you're a blogger, You're like just I think to

947
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:31.800
<v Speaker 3>kind of No, No, I think she went out to

948
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:33.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of meet people in the space, kind of the

949
00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:38.320
<v Speaker 3>way somebody who starts a job you're gonna meet the

950
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:42.639
<v Speaker 3>vendors you're gonna meet, Like, I don't think that's that unusual.

951
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but can I ask you a question? Yeah, we

952
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:47.320
<v Speaker 2>can cut this out if you.

953
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Don't want it.

954
00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Are you gonna ever say that you went out to

955
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:53.119
<v Speaker 2>lunch with Katie? I, well, okay, you can talk, you

956
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:54.639
<v Speaker 2>can talk about it, Okay, go ahead.

957
00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:57.800
<v Speaker 3>So it's not that unusual. I am a year ago

958
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:01.159
<v Speaker 3>I met with her. I want to lunch. I was like, oh,

959
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:04.280
<v Speaker 3>you know you live. You live in a neighborhood or by.

960
00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:06.880
<v Speaker 3>So went out to lunch. And I saw her several

961
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:09.719
<v Speaker 3>times over a weekend and I had scheduled to interview her,

962
00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:12.760
<v Speaker 3>and then it was delayed for some reason, and I

963
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:15.119
<v Speaker 3>tried to follow up with it to schedule it, and

964
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:18.119
<v Speaker 3>it was like crickets. I never got a text back,

965
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:22.599
<v Speaker 3>and I was just nothing. And then I look on

966
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:27.320
<v Speaker 3>Instagram and she's unfollowed me, and I was like okay, Now,

967
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:31.400
<v Speaker 3>for those of us that have schedule podcast interviews, you

968
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:32.960
<v Speaker 3>can imagine how annoying that is.

969
00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you're like, okay, next week, I'm gonna slot

970
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:37.880
<v Speaker 2>this in. Let me just nail the time down. Yeah,

971
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:40.119
<v Speaker 2>And now I'm like what. So I go back to

972
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Bravo and I'm like, so, I guess you know. I

973
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:44.400
<v Speaker 2>was like, well, well, I'm not doing the interview with

974
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:46.880
<v Speaker 2>her because so can I have Emily and they were like, wait,

975
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:48.880
<v Speaker 2>are you sure don't you still want to do Katie?

976
00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:51.880
<v Speaker 2>And I went, well, no, like I've moved on. I'm annoying,

977
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Like I like, I'm not going to wait around for

978
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:57.559
<v Speaker 2>weeks for so it is cod But do you think.

979
00:46:57.400 --> 00:46:57.880
<v Speaker 1>This was this?

980
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:00.599
<v Speaker 2>Was this the same time they were filming, she was

981
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:01.800
<v Speaker 2>getting in trouble.

982
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:02.400
<v Speaker 1>For all this stuff.

983
00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I met her as last weekend of August

984
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:11.519
<v Speaker 3>of last year, and that this probably went on several

985
00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:15.960
<v Speaker 3>weeks where we were trying to coordinate. So maybe, but

986
00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:20.039
<v Speaker 3>I've had other people ask me when you got to

987
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:23.480
<v Speaker 3>because what people are saying is that when Katie met

988
00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:25.679
<v Speaker 3>with other people, she was just like talking about each

989
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:28.920
<v Speaker 3>cast member like this is what they have alleged, like, oh,

990
00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:30.719
<v Speaker 3>like I met with her and she's like, here's why

991
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:33.000
<v Speaker 3>this person's horrible, this is their deep a secret. I

992
00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:36.360
<v Speaker 3>did not have that experience at all. I feel like

993
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:38.840
<v Speaker 3>we talked a lot about her life. So that's why

994
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:42.119
<v Speaker 3>I have said the whole season, like why are we

995
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:44.519
<v Speaker 3>not getting to her story? Which I think if you

996
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:47.559
<v Speaker 3>know the origin story, some of this kind of makes sense.

997
00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:51.199
<v Speaker 3>We never get to it. But of course you know

998
00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:54.599
<v Speaker 3>me I'm prone to ask people lots of questions, so

999
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:57.320
<v Speaker 3>maybe that's why that didn't happen. But I did not

1000
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.559
<v Speaker 3>have that experience with her. I thought her story was

1001
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:04.280
<v Speaker 3>very interesting, and again I don't know why it doesn't

1002
00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:08.760
<v Speaker 3>come up. I think that So do I think it's

1003
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:10.719
<v Speaker 3>normal that she met with people? Yeah?

1004
00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:12.159
<v Speaker 1>What's abnormal?

1005
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:16.760
<v Speaker 3>I think in the whole equation, if true, would be

1006
00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:22.679
<v Speaker 3>sharing a story that someone told you that blurs the

1007
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:26.480
<v Speaker 3>line of legality. So if you were in your normal

1008
00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:29.880
<v Speaker 3>life and we're together and you say to me, so

1009
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:34.000
<v Speaker 3>someone that we know, Sarah, make up a name, Sarah

1010
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:36.400
<v Speaker 3>was at a party at John's house, and she says

1011
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:39.679
<v Speaker 3>she got drug while she was there. And then I

1012
00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:42.440
<v Speaker 3>go and I tell somebody who has a public platform

1013
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:45.760
<v Speaker 3>and says, Mary Paine told me that when Sarah was

1014
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:48.840
<v Speaker 3>at John's house that he drugged her. Now, in the

1015
00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:51.760
<v Speaker 3>regular world that we live, and we'd be like, wait,

1016
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:54.800
<v Speaker 3>what like this is and then Sarah and John would

1017
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:57.159
<v Speaker 3>be like why would you spread that rumor? Like there's

1018
00:48:57.199 --> 00:49:00.440
<v Speaker 3>no proof of it. That could totally harm my business,

1019
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:04.719
<v Speaker 3>my job, my life. That's where it's a problem. So

1020
00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:12.800
<v Speaker 3>I do believe Gretchen probably said something because I don't

1021
00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:16.760
<v Speaker 3>think Katie totally pulled that out of nowhere. To what degree,

1022
00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:21.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. But it begins there the planting the seed,

1023
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:24.079
<v Speaker 3>and then then it seed.

1024
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:27.400
<v Speaker 1>But then we saw Gretchen say it on camera. She said,

1025
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:30.840
<v Speaker 1>go to the hospital. She whispered it. She said, I was.

1026
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:33.760
<v Speaker 3>So so she said something that planted the seed.

1027
00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Right, She's probably said something.

1028
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:39.320
<v Speaker 3>But then because now then she says, well, I misspoke.

1029
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:42.320
<v Speaker 3>So it's just like what So she clearly planted the seed.

1030
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:46.280
<v Speaker 3>That's a problem. And the second problem is carrying that

1031
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:49.760
<v Speaker 3>seed to somebody who has access to a public platform.

1032
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:53.960
<v Speaker 3>And because of that, Kiki then goes to two other

1033
00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:57.440
<v Speaker 3>people and says, hey, I went out with Katie and

1034
00:49:57.480 --> 00:50:01.280
<v Speaker 3>she says this thing that's like deeply troubling and blurs

1035
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:05.320
<v Speaker 3>the line of legality. Have you heard this too? Now?

1036
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:09.639
<v Speaker 3>That person then calls Tamra. Now tamar is about the

1037
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:11.920
<v Speaker 3>film or is starting a film, and then she brings

1038
00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:15.639
<v Speaker 3>it on camera. The shocker to me is that they

1039
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:18.599
<v Speaker 3>would actually include this in filming because to me, I'm

1040
00:50:18.639 --> 00:50:22.360
<v Speaker 3>going back to this is a legal issue, right right,

1041
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:27.320
<v Speaker 3>I think everybody's involved in this to some degree. There's

1042
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:32.039
<v Speaker 3>all culpability and the other problem is, you know everyone

1043
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:34.840
<v Speaker 3>is lying in some way about some part of the story.

1044
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:38.679
<v Speaker 3>You just can't pinpoint to what degree. And that sucks

1045
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:40.880
<v Speaker 3>because you want to feel like there's at least one

1046
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:44.559
<v Speaker 3>narrator in this thing that we're watching, and I know one.

1047
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:46.719
<v Speaker 3>I can't. You don't know what anyone's truth is.

1048
00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:50.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, how does Sheiina get involved? Because people are like, oh,

1049
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:52.039
<v Speaker 2>so Kiki said it.

1050
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:53.760
<v Speaker 1>To Shina and she knows, like, don't bring my own.

1051
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Teddy interviewed Katie and Teddy Okay Okay on her podcast,

1052
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:02.440
<v Speaker 3>and Teddy said, I was asking her about this and

1053
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:04.880
<v Speaker 3>she's like, well, I heard this rumor, so again, it's

1054
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:07.519
<v Speaker 3>the game of telephone. I don't know. Somebody somewhere along

1055
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:11.039
<v Speaker 3>the lines goes, well, probably they were probably like, well,

1056
00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:16.559
<v Speaker 3>Gretchen is friends with Kiki and Sheena, so maybe there's

1057
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:20.480
<v Speaker 3>some connection, not based on any proof or anything. So

1058
00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:23.199
<v Speaker 3>Teddy says that in Katie's reaction is sort of like

1059
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:28.079
<v Speaker 3>not denying that, and then Sheena and Kiki they record

1060
00:51:28.119 --> 00:51:30.880
<v Speaker 3>together and they're like, this is absolutely not true. So

1061
00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:35.559
<v Speaker 3>I think it's just it's we're all sort of lost

1062
00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:39.320
<v Speaker 3>in all of us, like passing the seed. Yeah, yeah,

1063
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:42.159
<v Speaker 3>that it's just it's really frustrating.

1064
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:46.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's so interesting because I was trying to figure out, like,

1065
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:51.079
<v Speaker 2>at this time when Katie was meeting with various people,

1066
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:54.159
<v Speaker 2>which is in her right to do whatever, and you

1067
00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:56.639
<v Speaker 2>have lunch with her, and I was like, and ghost

1068
00:51:56.639 --> 00:51:56.880
<v Speaker 2>did you?

1069
00:51:57.079 --> 00:51:57.719
<v Speaker 1>Is what happened?

1070
00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:01.719
<v Speaker 3>She goes to me. I found her to be lovely

1071
00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:04.400
<v Speaker 3>and yeah, you in your story. I sent it everybody.

1072
00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:06.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, I think she's really interesting. Then I

1073
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:09.280
<v Speaker 3>got mad when I got ghosted, of course, because I

1074
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:12.480
<v Speaker 3>was like, I got to schedule my show. Yeah.

1075
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:15.800
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<v Speaker 2>all of it, but now that we're seeing it on TV,

1109
00:53:56.360 --> 00:53:59.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering if around the same time which she goes

1110
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:01.880
<v Speaker 2>at you completely, she was like, oh, I can't talk

1111
00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:02.719
<v Speaker 2>to anybody anymore.

1112
00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:05.280
<v Speaker 3>I think it was before that.

1113
00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:10.639
<v Speaker 1>Because then after, because then she did. She did.

1114
00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:14.039
<v Speaker 2>She did refollow you and swing back around like six

1115
00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:16.039
<v Speaker 2>months later, and you were like, girls, get out of here.

1116
00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:19.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I don't remember if she did. I know her

1117
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.599
<v Speaker 3>husband did. Did she I don't remember. I don't remember anymore.

1118
00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Was like, listen, I just told you I have a

1119
00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:29.440
<v Speaker 3>photographic memory, but I don't that part. I don't remember.

1120
00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:32.119
<v Speaker 3>Maybe she did. I remember being very annoyed, though.

1121
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:34.559
<v Speaker 2>You were very annoyed, okay, but she reached back out,

1122
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:37.519
<v Speaker 2>but it was like months after she had un followed you,

1123
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:38.119
<v Speaker 2>and you're like no.

1124
00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:42.079
<v Speaker 3>I was like that because once someone has like screwed

1125
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:46.719
<v Speaker 3>you over, you're like fuck off, We're I think everybody

1126
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:48.480
<v Speaker 3>can kind of understand that. I was like, I don't

1127
00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:52.760
<v Speaker 3>you know what what? And then also, you when you

1128
00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:56.559
<v Speaker 3>spend time trying to get to know someone and you

1129
00:54:56.599 --> 00:55:00.760
<v Speaker 3>feel like your time was not valued. It annoys, well,

1130
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:04.480
<v Speaker 3>it annoys me, like, yes, I spent a lot of

1131
00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:09.039
<v Speaker 3>time getting to know her and and really was a

1132
00:55:09.039 --> 00:55:11.719
<v Speaker 3>great listener, and then felt like I was sort of

1133
00:55:11.800 --> 00:55:15.039
<v Speaker 3>like disposable and I didn't like that feeling. That's how

1134
00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:17.519
<v Speaker 3>I felt. If that was her intention, I don't know,

1135
00:55:17.599 --> 00:55:19.199
<v Speaker 3>but I but at the time that's how I felt.

1136
00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:20.639
<v Speaker 3>And I remember I called you and I was like,

1137
00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:22.239
<v Speaker 3>I am so annoyed.

1138
00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:23.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very annoyed.

1139
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:26.480
<v Speaker 2>And also it has like you know, in our world,

1140
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:29.880
<v Speaker 2>it's always annoying when you count on somebody and they

1141
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:33.239
<v Speaker 2>cancel that day the day before. I've definitely had people chancel,

1142
00:55:33.679 --> 00:55:34.800
<v Speaker 2>which is even hard.

1143
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:37.000
<v Speaker 3>For people to get. They it's hard. If you're not

1144
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:38.719
<v Speaker 3>a podcaster, you're not going to get it and you're

1145
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:40.440
<v Speaker 3>going to go, well, this is but it is a

1146
00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:45.599
<v Speaker 3>massively stressful thing, especially when you have five children and

1147
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:49.559
<v Speaker 3>you're trying to coordinate around their schedules. And then I'm like, Okay,

1148
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:52.239
<v Speaker 3>now I have to come up with another plan, and.

1149
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I have advertisers and the episode has to go out.

1150
00:55:54.800 --> 00:55:58.519
<v Speaker 2>At midnight and it's four PM, and I got no show,

1151
00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:01.639
<v Speaker 2>and I've got a two hour window to do it because.

1152
00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:03.079
<v Speaker 1>I've got a babysitter, I've got a dead I've got

1153
00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:04.039
<v Speaker 1>the whatever, you know.

1154
00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:07.440
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I remember all of that, but I was

1155
00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:09.519
<v Speaker 2>just trying to put it together in my brain if

1156
00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:11.760
<v Speaker 2>they were filming or if something happened in that time

1157
00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:13.559
<v Speaker 2>where she not just goested you k.

1158
00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:15.519
<v Speaker 1>Casey because she's like, fuck that bitch.

1159
00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:18.360
<v Speaker 2>It was more like I gotta I can't speak to

1160
00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:22.719
<v Speaker 2>anybody that's in the podcasting, the news, the blogger business

1161
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:24.239
<v Speaker 2>because I don't want to get in trouble because I

1162
00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:25.480
<v Speaker 2>did something and now I'm in trouble.

1163
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:28.800
<v Speaker 3>So I think it was I think it was before

1164
00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:31.719
<v Speaker 3>because I think all of this stuff was happening in March.

1165
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:35.679
<v Speaker 2>They filmed all this in March, I think, so of

1166
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:40.239
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five, No.

1167
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:40.079
<v Speaker 3>No, I think, so, yeah, look it up.

1168
00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Don't they filmed me year? But I don't know when

1169
00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:42.280
<v Speaker 1>they filmed.

1170
00:56:42.519 --> 00:56:45.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. No, Well, we're already in September, So

1171
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:48.320
<v Speaker 3>I think it was back then because so that's when

1172
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:50.360
<v Speaker 3>I think they went to New Orleans, was like February

1173
00:56:50.480 --> 00:56:51.119
<v Speaker 3>March or something.

1174
00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I remember that in Tamer being like everybody's

1175
00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Tamer quit again, Like okayl Well that is an interesting story,

1176
00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:02.360
<v Speaker 2>and we'll see what happens. And you know, I've heard

1177
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:05.079
<v Speaker 2>the rumors as you have of there's gonna be this big,

1178
00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:06.920
<v Speaker 2>terrible thing that happens at the end of the season

1179
00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:09.159
<v Speaker 2>regarding Gretchen, and.

1180
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:11.840
<v Speaker 3>You know, I do know, I do know what happens at.

1181
00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:16.800
<v Speaker 2>The end, and and homophobia and of course Heather.

1182
00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:20.119
<v Speaker 3>I just think three, if you were already feeling totally

1183
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:25.000
<v Speaker 3>yucky for lack of a better term, ick, if you've

1184
00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:27.760
<v Speaker 3>been feeling ick about this season, it's gonna get worse.

1185
00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:30.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's my thought. That's my thought.

1186
00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:32.400
<v Speaker 2>And you know, sort of like at the end of

1187
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:35.239
<v Speaker 2>New Jersey where you're just like that one, we were

1188
00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:37.480
<v Speaker 2>already feeling so bad and now it's made it worse

1189
00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:40.840
<v Speaker 2>at the end, Like why can't everybody.

1190
00:57:40.440 --> 00:57:42.360
<v Speaker 3>Just get I do feel like the New Jersey and

1191
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:44.400
<v Speaker 3>the OC is just like it's very similar.

1192
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:45.840
<v Speaker 1>The toxicity.

1193
00:57:47.079 --> 00:57:50.480
<v Speaker 3>It's not fun to watch. There's no fun in that

1194
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:51.119
<v Speaker 3>show at all.

1195
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's sort of like people said about The Valley

1196
00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:56.039
<v Speaker 2>that they really like hated how toxic it was, and

1197
00:57:56.079 --> 00:58:01.719
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I loved every minute of it. Something

1198
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:06.639
<v Speaker 2>wrong with me or what what? Somebody sent me a

1199
00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:11.159
<v Speaker 2>reel the other day and listener, and it was Jax

1200
00:58:11.320 --> 00:58:13.320
<v Speaker 2>like being crazy. It's like, you know, him with his

1201
00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:15.639
<v Speaker 2>nose bandage and him with this blood and the punching

1202
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:18.440
<v Speaker 2>and all, you know, all like the scared Jax memes

1203
00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:20.239
<v Speaker 2>in that. And it ended with when he like threw

1204
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:22.000
<v Speaker 2>that chunky sweater off and went to beat up that

1205
00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:24.920
<v Speaker 2>guy in the parking lot that Oussi he was dating

1206
00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:27.800
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, and I was like, God, he was hot.

1207
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:34.239
<v Speaker 3>That was my first Oh my god, wait did you

1208
00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:36.719
<v Speaker 3>watch You didn't watch it? It just came out today. First, Trap,

1209
00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:38.400
<v Speaker 3>the documentary on William White.

1210
00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:40.960
<v Speaker 1>No, tell me who's William White?

1211
00:58:41.000 --> 00:58:44.039
<v Speaker 3>Okay that your listeners are going to be fired up

1212
00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:45.119
<v Speaker 3>about this one. I got my pen.

1213
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm writing it down.

1214
00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:49.199
<v Speaker 3>There are two episodes came out today, Paramount Plus. Okay, okay,

1215
00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:51.719
<v Speaker 3>but wait first, wait how many episodes will then? Because

1216
00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:53.960
<v Speaker 3>you know I've got all my diffriend's coming this weekend. Oh,

1217
00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:55.519
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna watch this is the one you're gonna watch

1218
00:58:55.559 --> 00:58:58.800
<v Speaker 3>with them? You're gonna yeah? Okay, that and Charlie Sheen documentary.

1219
00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:01.159
<v Speaker 2>I was going to get them to watch if they

1220
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:03.679
<v Speaker 2>hadn't seen Unknown Caller and tell them nothing about it

1221
00:59:03.719 --> 00:59:04.480
<v Speaker 2>and have them watch that.

1222
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:06.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a good one too. But okay, let me

1223
00:59:06.519 --> 00:59:09.079
<v Speaker 3>explain thirstrap because you may have different opinions. But okay,

1224
00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:13.920
<v Speaker 3>so imagine and Heather interviewed him during COVID twenty one

1225
00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:17.880
<v Speaker 3>year old landscaper from Canada makes these TikTok videos where

1226
00:59:17.880 --> 00:59:19.239
<v Speaker 3>he's lip syncing to bearing.

1227
00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:22.679
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I remember when Heather interviewed him. Okay, yeah, this way,

1228
00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:26.639
<v Speaker 2>he's just dim dumber than a box of rocks. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1229
00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:30.920
<v Speaker 2>as my mother would say, criminally stupid. Oh and big

1230
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:34.039
<v Speaker 2>blue eyes, wide smile, dimous, gorgeous.

1231
00:59:34.199 --> 00:59:36.360
<v Speaker 3>You would kind of look like like like a young

1232
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:39.639
<v Speaker 3>version of like John Mellencamp and the Jack and Diane

1233
00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:43.519
<v Speaker 3>video kind of like a like a just like a

1234
00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:49.840
<v Speaker 3>Indiana Canada, kind of like Canada, you know, like like

1235
00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:50.800
<v Speaker 3>not a city guy.

1236
00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:52.079
<v Speaker 1>Right, Okay, I got it.

1237
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:56.039
<v Speaker 3>Makes these videos and surprisingly the women that made him

1238
00:59:56.079 --> 01:00:00.199
<v Speaker 3>go viral the audience was like women over fifty, and

1239
01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:04.320
<v Speaker 3>it was, you know, strategic on his part. He's choosing

1240
01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:06.400
<v Speaker 3>songs that were right up their alley. They were going

1241
01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:08.199
<v Speaker 3>back to the roller skating days of their lives. I

1242
01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:10.199
<v Speaker 3>don't know, and they're like, he is so hot, and

1243
01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:12.760
<v Speaker 3>that's when you could start sending people money on TikTok.

1244
01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:16.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah and yeah, Like one woman's on there, she's probably

1245
01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:18.480
<v Speaker 3>in her sixties now, and she's like, I've sent I

1246
01:00:18.559 --> 01:00:22.440
<v Speaker 3>sent him like two hundred thousand dollars. They are all

1247
01:00:23.519 --> 01:00:25.559
<v Speaker 3>dying over him, and he would do TikTok lives and

1248
01:00:25.559 --> 01:00:27.159
<v Speaker 3>they would some of them were like I would wake

1249
01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:29.840
<v Speaker 3>up at five o'clock just to see him during his live.

1250
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:33.559
<v Speaker 3>Then they started going to Canada to his hometown and

1251
01:00:33.639 --> 01:00:36.960
<v Speaker 3>hopes to see him. Like so really harkens back to

1252
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:39.639
<v Speaker 3>like the teen bop days, right, but in this case

1253
01:00:39.679 --> 01:00:41.519
<v Speaker 3>it's a twenty one year old and the women and

1254
01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:42.880
<v Speaker 3>the people that love him are in their.

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01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Fifties and sixties, okay.

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01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:46.639
<v Speaker 3>And it was like he would go on TikTok Live

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01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:48.760
<v Speaker 3>and be like, I'm going to go to Kelsey's restaurant,

1258
01:00:48.760 --> 01:00:52.119
<v Speaker 3>which is like their local state or burger place, and

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01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:53.639
<v Speaker 3>then he'd go to pay and then be like, somebody's

1260
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:57.400
<v Speaker 3>already taken care of it. He like he was. So

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01:00:57.480 --> 01:01:00.239
<v Speaker 3>he's at first seems kind of sweet and dopey, and

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01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:03.239
<v Speaker 3>then you see he's getting money and he's like these

1263
01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:06.039
<v Speaker 3>broad these idiots and he's like, they're giving me what

1264
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:09.280
<v Speaker 3>I want, right, and then they start getting possessive of him.

1265
01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:11.679
<v Speaker 3>And when one of those groups went to visit him,

1266
01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:14.679
<v Speaker 3>this one woman they called the Disney Mom. I don't know,

1267
01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:17.360
<v Speaker 3>she was like because of her like Instagram handle or something.

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01:01:18.159 --> 01:01:19.559
<v Speaker 3>They go up into her room and they get it

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01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:23.320
<v Speaker 3>on William White and the woman and she's like talking

1270
01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:25.719
<v Speaker 3>about the experience and how all of these women went

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01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:30.239
<v Speaker 3>insane on her. Afterward, they were like bitter and angry.

1272
01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:33.039
<v Speaker 1>Now I see a single guy or I live with

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01:01:33.079 --> 01:01:35.440
<v Speaker 1>his mother, Like yeah.

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01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:37.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, he lives with his mother. Same. Yeah, she's

1275
01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:39.320
<v Speaker 3>the same age as these women, okay. And they're all

1276
01:01:39.320 --> 01:01:40.960
<v Speaker 3>trying to be friends with the mom, and then the

1277
01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:43.679
<v Speaker 3>mom gets upset because then she starts getting things sent

1278
01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:45.840
<v Speaker 3>to her house and she's like, now we've crossed the line.

1279
01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:48.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh wait, now we've crossed the line. Okay.

1280
01:01:48.840 --> 01:01:52.800
<v Speaker 3>So there are women who are like they're duets, you know.

1281
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:55.239
<v Speaker 3>And TikTok were side by side videos where they're like

1282
01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:58.840
<v Speaker 3>lustfully looking look after the sky's like joy and then

1283
01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:00.920
<v Speaker 3>he was like get a girlfriend or something, and then

1284
01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:04.800
<v Speaker 3>they would be angry. It was like parasocial behavior on

1285
01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:07.519
<v Speaker 3>crack Yeah okay, and then it kind of ends with

1286
01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:11.400
<v Speaker 3>like the fallout where he starts like resenting these people

1287
01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:15.239
<v Speaker 3>and like talking smack to them, and then they hate him,

1288
01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:17.800
<v Speaker 3>and they're two factions. There's like a positive group that

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01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:20.079
<v Speaker 3>love everything he does, and then there's the negative group

1290
01:02:20.119 --> 01:02:21.800
<v Speaker 3>that like trolls the positive people.

1291
01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:23.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah okay.

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01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:26.320
<v Speaker 3>And then like his relationship with the internet, like wanting

1293
01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:27.719
<v Speaker 3>to be on it but wanting to be off it,

1294
01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:31.880
<v Speaker 3>and the amount of money people were sending him is insane.

1295
01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:34.360
<v Speaker 3>And so I made Heather McDonald watch it last night.

1296
01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:36.159
<v Speaker 3>She watched it with Drake, and she texts me she's like,

1297
01:02:36.679 --> 01:02:39.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm embarrassed right now to be a woman or something

1298
01:02:39.119 --> 01:02:44.199
<v Speaker 3>because she's like it's like Drake's age person. She's like

1299
01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:46.880
<v Speaker 3>of the fan group, and she's like, this is so

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01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:50.000
<v Speaker 3>crazy that these women like went crazy for him. And

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01:02:50.119 --> 01:02:52.239
<v Speaker 3>she's like, he's not as hot as he was in

1302
01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:54.800
<v Speaker 3>the video. I'm like, yeah, because he was getting older,

1303
01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:57.119
<v Speaker 3>and like I don't I feel like, well, he had

1304
01:02:57.159 --> 01:02:59.360
<v Speaker 3>some addiction issues, and I feel like the addiction issues

1305
01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:00.880
<v Speaker 3>went strach was face. Do you know what I mean?

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01:03:01.079 --> 01:03:03.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, it's funny that you say this, So Anna

1307
01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:07.159
<v Speaker 2>had a friend that was a high school friend and

1308
01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:09.119
<v Speaker 2>maybe it was no, it must have been high school

1309
01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:11.719
<v Speaker 2>was before she went to the other school. And she

1310
01:03:12.119 --> 01:03:16.159
<v Speaker 2>had this guy and he dated her friend Fiona, and

1311
01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:18.480
<v Speaker 2>he came to our house. He was I mean, like

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01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:20.840
<v Speaker 2>the guy that played Elvis.

1313
01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:24.320
<v Speaker 3>In the movie. Was his name, Oh, Austin Austin Smith.

1314
01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, I'm talking like look like that.

1315
01:03:26.760 --> 01:03:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Like just as an adult woman, You're like, that's

1316
01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:32.840
<v Speaker 2>a good looking kid, Like, whoa, he should be a

1317
01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:35.639
<v Speaker 2>model like that, you know, just like, okay, dated her

1318
01:03:35.679 --> 01:03:38.159
<v Speaker 2>friend Fiona. Good for you, Fiona, whatever, he's hot. But

1319
01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:40.039
<v Speaker 2>then Anna tells me, oh, you know, he's got this

1320
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:42.960
<v Speaker 2>viral tiktoka and.

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01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:45.519
<v Speaker 1>I go, no, I don't know about it. Why would

1322
01:03:45.559 --> 01:03:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I know? It doesn't come up.

1323
01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:49.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for like Amazon fndes and like what to

1324
01:03:49.360 --> 01:03:53.559
<v Speaker 2>buy from Target, you know, and sometimes cute dog memes

1325
01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:55.679
<v Speaker 2>is what comes up for me. And she goes, oh

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01:03:55.760 --> 01:03:58.360
<v Speaker 2>my god, no, he's got like two million I mean,

1327
01:03:58.440 --> 01:04:02.400
<v Speaker 2>something crazy on tikto. This was way back and it

1328
01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:05.719
<v Speaker 2>popped off during COVID, same thing, same idea, and he

1329
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:07.519
<v Speaker 2>was singing like Elvis songs.

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01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:11.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh god, oh yeah. So it was like the same idea,

1331
01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:13.440
<v Speaker 3>you're in the sixty year old ye because.

1332
01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:15.199
<v Speaker 2>Somebody said you kind of look like a young Elvis

1333
01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:17.599
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. And I said, and I go, why is

1334
01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:19.800
<v Speaker 2>he's always in like these mom jeans?

1335
01:04:19.880 --> 01:04:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Like why you know? And that's why I'm not this.

1336
01:04:23.519 --> 01:04:25.400
<v Speaker 1>It's not relating to me that people will be like, whoa,

1337
01:04:25.440 --> 01:04:27.440
<v Speaker 1>we's so hot because it is like such.

1338
01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:30.320
<v Speaker 2>A nerd, you know, and she goes, mom, I don't know.

1339
01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:34.519
<v Speaker 2>People just love him. But he just went to college

1340
01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:36.559
<v Speaker 2>and lived his life. But I remember talking to him

1341
01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:38.719
<v Speaker 2>one time. Whatever his name was, it'll never come back

1342
01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:40.719
<v Speaker 2>to me. I'll have to ask hnma. But I remember

1343
01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:42.679
<v Speaker 2>asking him one time like, how do you make money

1344
01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:45.519
<v Speaker 2>on TikTok? If you like have such a I don't like,

1345
01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. And he goes, oh, well, people like

1346
01:04:48.119 --> 01:04:49.519
<v Speaker 2>buy you things or they send.

1347
01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:51.800
<v Speaker 1>You roses or whatever. And I go and then you

1348
01:04:52.119 --> 01:04:53.159
<v Speaker 1>cash it out.

1349
01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:55.559
<v Speaker 2>Like it goes into an account, and he goes, yeah,

1350
01:04:55.719 --> 01:04:57.480
<v Speaker 2>you have like a TikTok account and you're going to

1351
01:04:57.559 --> 01:04:59.920
<v Speaker 2>cash it out like if you sell purses on po

1352
01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:00.840
<v Speaker 2>or something.

1353
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:04.159
<v Speaker 3>I was like, what, yeah, a lot of money. Some

1354
01:05:04.280 --> 01:05:07.639
<v Speaker 3>of those women basically said that watching his videos gave

1355
01:05:07.760 --> 01:05:11.760
<v Speaker 3>them this sexual awakening like it had been dormant, you know,

1356
01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:14.039
<v Speaker 3>maybe because of a divorce or raising kids, and then

1357
01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:17.639
<v Speaker 3>suddenly they were like having the feelings. And then for

1358
01:05:17.800 --> 01:05:21.079
<v Speaker 3>somebody their child's age, yes, and then they were having

1359
01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:24.679
<v Speaker 3>these feelings of like maybe we could be together. It's

1360
01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:25.559
<v Speaker 3>like delusion.

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01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm writing this down thirst Trap, and I'm going

1362
01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:30.280
<v Speaker 2>to ask my friends because when we was.

1363
01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:32.239
<v Speaker 3>Weird because someone were like, oh, I just think of

1364
01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:33.840
<v Speaker 3>him as my friend. I'm like, why would you have

1365
01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:36.440
<v Speaker 3>a friend who's a twenty one year old landscaper from Canada?

1366
01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:40.519
<v Speaker 2>You should be like speaking of at a landscape or

1367
01:05:40.519 --> 01:05:42.039
<v Speaker 2>come over here today. The one that I talked about,

1368
01:05:42.079 --> 01:05:44.079
<v Speaker 2>like it's got to do something for the dogs.

1369
01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:49.639
<v Speaker 1>Dogs. She's really cute, real cute.

1370
01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:53.480
<v Speaker 3>I got real nervous, you know, like, hey, I knew

1371
01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:55.599
<v Speaker 3>someone who had an affair with the landscaper.

1372
01:05:55.920 --> 01:05:58.320
<v Speaker 2>No, it's not happening here. But I'll tell you that

1373
01:05:58.400 --> 01:06:00.199
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people that work here. This is in

1374
01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:02.400
<v Speaker 2>North Carolina, and that's the word area.

1375
01:06:02.519 --> 01:06:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, but the people.

1376
01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:06.199
<v Speaker 2>Come from the tiny towns that do all the work

1377
01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:08.679
<v Speaker 2>on nobody lives here. They all, you know, come over

1378
01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:11.000
<v Speaker 2>on the ferry and I guess this guy does too,

1379
01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:13.679
<v Speaker 2>but they have work trucks that that stay here or whatever.

1380
01:06:14.320 --> 01:06:16.360
<v Speaker 2>But a lot of people are just like local, small

1381
01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:20.920
<v Speaker 2>town North Carolina, just real, like real salt of the earth. Yeah,

1382
01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:24.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, missing some teeth, gonna drink a Budweiser and

1383
01:06:24.679 --> 01:06:25.719
<v Speaker 2>go fishing on the weekend.

1384
01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:28.199
<v Speaker 1>Like just just nice, good for the regular regular folk.

1385
01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:32.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this guy shows up and I was like, whoaah, Yeah,

1386
01:06:32.960 --> 01:06:33.280
<v Speaker 3>good for.

1387
01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:38.400
<v Speaker 2>You, Good for you, hot landscaper. Yeah, anyway, that's just

1388
01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:39.000
<v Speaker 2>a sidebar.

1389
01:06:40.039 --> 01:06:42.079
<v Speaker 3>One time I had an Uber driver and I said,

1390
01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:44.880
<v Speaker 3>you look like I don't know, I like, why is this?

1391
01:06:45.159 --> 01:06:47.599
<v Speaker 3>I said, you look like you could be a professional

1392
01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:51.320
<v Speaker 3>soccer player from Dubai. And he goes, looks like me

1393
01:06:51.400 --> 01:06:54.000
<v Speaker 3>crazy and I was like, oh sorry, and then he goes,

1394
01:06:54.519 --> 01:06:57.320
<v Speaker 3>my brother is a professional soccer player in Dubai.

1395
01:06:57.800 --> 01:06:58.159
<v Speaker 1>No way.

1396
01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:00.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he showed me on his phone. I was like, wow,

1397
01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:03.039
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Well it was weird.

1398
01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Last story, and this is what we do and this

1399
01:07:05.519 --> 01:07:08.039
<v Speaker 2>is why you're going to enjoy our new side quest

1400
01:07:08.639 --> 01:07:12.320
<v Speaker 2>is I had the driver yesterday. So you when you

1401
01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:14.320
<v Speaker 2>land to come to the beach, you land at the

1402
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Willington airport and you have to have an Uber. But

1403
01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:19.519
<v Speaker 2>if you call an Uber, it's literally going to be

1404
01:07:19.559 --> 01:07:21.599
<v Speaker 2>the same guy that you hire as the driver, and

1405
01:07:21.639 --> 01:07:23.880
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be the same price. There's like four

1406
01:07:24.039 --> 01:07:26.719
<v Speaker 2>Uber drivers and then they also do like private car

1407
01:07:26.840 --> 01:07:28.599
<v Speaker 2>service in their van or whatever. So this is this

1408
01:07:28.679 --> 01:07:31.199
<v Speaker 2>guy that I know, so he you know, you text him,

1409
01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:32.920
<v Speaker 2>here's when I'm landing, and he drives you, drives you

1410
01:07:32.960 --> 01:07:34.559
<v Speaker 2>over to the ferry, and then you take the ferry.

1411
01:07:34.559 --> 01:07:37.199
<v Speaker 2>It's plane trains and automobiles. So anyway, I was in

1412
01:07:37.239 --> 01:07:39.159
<v Speaker 2>the car with him and he started talking about something

1413
01:07:39.159 --> 01:07:39.920
<v Speaker 2>about true crime.

1414
01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like ooh.

1415
01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:42.559
<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, I love a true crime story

1416
01:07:42.679 --> 01:07:44.760
<v Speaker 2>or something, and he goes, yeah, I kind of got

1417
01:07:44.840 --> 01:07:48.440
<v Speaker 2>into that. He goes something about tell me about that

1418
01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:50.079
<v Speaker 2>that story about the Murdos.

1419
01:07:50.119 --> 01:07:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Can you tell me about that?

1420
01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:54.119
<v Speaker 2>I go, well, it's only a forty five minute ride, Like,

1421
01:07:54.159 --> 01:07:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, how much time do you? So I went

1422
01:07:56.880 --> 01:07:58.760
<v Speaker 2>through kind of what I can even remember, you know,

1423
01:07:58.840 --> 01:08:01.239
<v Speaker 2>specifically about it. And so then I said, but let

1424
01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:02.559
<v Speaker 2>me tell you what you do need to be following

1425
01:08:02.599 --> 01:08:04.920
<v Speaker 2>as the Donna Adelson situation, because.

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01:08:04.719 --> 01:08:07.159
<v Speaker 3>You're like, oh good, oh yeah, I have something to this, okay.

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01:08:07.400 --> 01:08:10.280
<v Speaker 2>I gave him the whole story, and then I kept

1428
01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:13.480
<v Speaker 2>going and then and I kept like remembering shit, you know,

1429
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:15.880
<v Speaker 2>I was like, and then he sampled the money, and

1430
01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:19.000
<v Speaker 2>then you know, I kept remembering like so many things,

1431
01:08:19.399 --> 01:08:22.439
<v Speaker 2>and I completely have forgotten the part about them going

1432
01:08:22.439 --> 01:08:25.119
<v Speaker 2>to Vietnam. And then halfway through he goes next, I go,

1433
01:08:25.199 --> 01:08:27.000
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I totally forgot. They were trying to

1434
01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:28.000
<v Speaker 2>go one way to Vietnam.

1435
01:08:28.039 --> 01:08:29.199
<v Speaker 3>He goes, well, that's a red flag.

1436
01:08:29.199 --> 01:08:30.359
<v Speaker 1>I go, well, exactly.

1437
01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:32.399
<v Speaker 2>I go, well, they've been to Vietnam before and their

1438
01:08:32.439 --> 01:08:34.079
<v Speaker 2>friend came over and told him to buy one way

1439
01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:34.760
<v Speaker 2>because it was cheaper.

1440
01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:37.359
<v Speaker 3>He's like, oh, well, no, bullshit, yeah totally.

1441
01:08:37.479 --> 01:08:39.279
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to give him both sides. So anyway,

1442
01:08:39.319 --> 01:08:40.720
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what to watch for is.

1443
01:08:40.720 --> 01:08:43.600
<v Speaker 2>What's going to happen with, you know, Wendy and Harvey.

1444
01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:46.319
<v Speaker 2>So he's like, okay, Wendy's the wife, Harvey's the dad.

1445
01:08:46.439 --> 01:08:49.960
<v Speaker 2>So he wrote me last night and said, okay, great,

1446
01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:51.600
<v Speaker 2>now I've gone down a rabbit hole. I wrote me this,

1447
01:08:52.039 --> 01:08:54.159
<v Speaker 2>He wrote me this morning. The driver wrote me this

1448
01:08:54.279 --> 01:08:56.960
<v Speaker 2>morning and goes thanks again. I literally stayed up till

1449
01:08:57.000 --> 01:08:59.079
<v Speaker 2>midnight and I've got more research to do today.

1450
01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:02.720
<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay, I appreciate that. I was talking

1451
01:09:02.840 --> 01:09:06.640
<v Speaker 3>to a consultant that I hadn't talked to and like

1452
01:09:07.039 --> 01:09:09.399
<v Speaker 3>we haven't worked together in maybe six years or something.

1453
01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:12.399
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, oh, I was thinking about you

1454
01:09:12.439 --> 01:09:14.359
<v Speaker 3>and all the true crime stuff that you're working on.

1455
01:09:14.479 --> 01:09:16.960
<v Speaker 3>He goes, are you following the Adolson case? I go, am,

1456
01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:20.319
<v Speaker 3>I following the Adolesen case. I just interviewed an attorney

1457
01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:23.880
<v Speaker 3>from Tallahassee about it. And he goes, Wendy Adelson was

1458
01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:28.359
<v Speaker 3>my old girlfriend when uh huh school or something, no,

1459
01:09:28.520 --> 01:09:31.880
<v Speaker 3>in college. I go, what before she married? Does it

1460
01:09:31.960 --> 01:09:32.760
<v Speaker 3>tell me everything?

1461
01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:34.079
<v Speaker 1>What is going on?

1462
01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:37.039
<v Speaker 3>And he said she was the person that I dated

1463
01:09:37.079 --> 01:09:38.800
<v Speaker 3>before I met my wife that I ended up marrying.

1464
01:09:39.119 --> 01:09:42.039
<v Speaker 3>And he said, I go, was the family weird? And

1465
01:09:42.119 --> 01:09:43.640
<v Speaker 3>he said, oh no, I go, well, what do you

1466
01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:47.560
<v Speaker 3>think happened? He goes, absolutely, she knew about the whole plan.

1467
01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:51.279
<v Speaker 3>There's no doubt about it. That family, it was totally weird.

1468
01:09:51.960 --> 01:09:54.920
<v Speaker 3>And he said they she talked to her mom constantly,

1469
01:09:55.119 --> 01:09:57.920
<v Speaker 3>like all day long. And he said I never met

1470
01:09:57.960 --> 01:10:01.000
<v Speaker 3>the older brother because he seemingly, even then like wanted

1471
01:10:01.039 --> 01:10:03.239
<v Speaker 3>nothing to do with the family. I mean he's been

1472
01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:05.079
<v Speaker 3>married to his wife for like this guy, he's been

1473
01:10:05.119 --> 01:10:08.039
<v Speaker 3>married for like nineteen years or something, but he said

1474
01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:14.079
<v Speaker 3>he remembered this one Thanksgiving she canceled. She was like, remember, yeah,

1475
01:10:14.119 --> 01:10:15.960
<v Speaker 3>how I wanted you to come. Like, we're not gonna

1476
01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:17.399
<v Speaker 3>do that anymore. We're just gonna keep it just the

1477
01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:21.439
<v Speaker 3>family cold and told the boyfriend, I know you were

1478
01:10:21.479 --> 01:10:23.279
<v Speaker 3>going to come visit me for Thanksgiving to spend it

1479
01:10:23.359 --> 01:10:25.319
<v Speaker 3>with your family, but now because we just wanted to

1480
01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:27.920
<v Speaker 3>be family. He's like, of course they all knew the plan,

1481
01:10:28.359 --> 01:10:28.840
<v Speaker 3>all of them.

1482
01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:32.199
<v Speaker 1>I they're so amastring.

1483
01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:33.560
<v Speaker 2>When I was talking to the driver last night, I

1484
01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:35.520
<v Speaker 2>was like, there's so many things that point that she

1485
01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:39.840
<v Speaker 2>did know, and then there's so many things that are

1486
01:10:39.960 --> 01:10:42.319
<v Speaker 2>like ran that's just circumstantially. You have to look at

1487
01:10:42.359 --> 01:10:44.800
<v Speaker 2>it from what a jury has to look at it. Circumstantially,

1488
01:10:44.960 --> 01:10:48.880
<v Speaker 2>like there's no concrete email or anything that she knew.

1489
01:10:49.119 --> 01:10:51.560
<v Speaker 2>It's just so I was like, I don't know until

1490
01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:56.319
<v Speaker 2>they get something concrete on her. But they said stay tuned,

1491
01:10:56.439 --> 01:11:01.119
<v Speaker 2>So we're staying tuned, Stay tuned, stay tuned. So just

1492
01:11:01.359 --> 01:11:05.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean the dad Markell, the dad when he got

1493
01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:08.720
<v Speaker 2>up and he listed all the people that now don't

1494
01:11:08.760 --> 01:11:12.159
<v Speaker 2>have parents, and all the people that are affected, don't

1495
01:11:12.199 --> 01:11:13.800
<v Speaker 2>have a sister, don't have a mother, don't have these

1496
01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:16.079
<v Speaker 2>people don't have any parents, these people don't have grandparents

1497
01:11:16.359 --> 01:11:18.760
<v Speaker 2>because of what you've done, Like anyone.

1498
01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:19.199
<v Speaker 3>Wasn't worth it.

1499
01:11:20.119 --> 01:11:22.880
<v Speaker 2>That was so powerful when he listed out you know,

1500
01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Katherine mcmanawa's children have no parents. Now, you know, all

1501
01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:31.119
<v Speaker 2>these these Lincoln in whatever the other one's name is,

1502
01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:36.600
<v Speaker 2>don't have probably eventually won't have parents either, And then

1503
01:11:36.680 --> 01:11:37.279
<v Speaker 2>what's in place?

1504
01:11:37.279 --> 01:11:38.479
<v Speaker 1>Who's going to take care of them?

1505
01:11:39.079 --> 01:11:41.840
<v Speaker 3>You know, did you bro the way watch any of

1506
01:11:41.880 --> 01:11:46.239
<v Speaker 3>the Chrislies stuff. No, Kate's getting better. I just have

1507
01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:48.039
<v Speaker 3>such a hard time with it, I know, but it's

1508
01:11:48.079 --> 01:11:51.319
<v Speaker 3>getting better and better. The family is so honest about

1509
01:11:51.399 --> 01:11:53.880
<v Speaker 3>how messed up they are. I just I like them

1510
01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:57.000
<v Speaker 3>even more. I mean I would watch it back in

1511
01:11:57.039 --> 01:11:58.840
<v Speaker 3>the day, like early earlier, and I was like, yeah,

1512
01:11:58.880 --> 01:12:00.520
<v Speaker 3>they seems funny, And then I just took a long,

1513
01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:01.359
<v Speaker 3>long break.

1514
01:12:01.439 --> 01:12:04.239
<v Speaker 2>Because it was so like, here comes Grandma. Isn't she

1515
01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:07.039
<v Speaker 2>crazy in the kitchen? Like it was so fake scripted.

1516
01:12:07.279 --> 01:12:11.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So the opposite now where Chase is clearly still

1517
01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:13.399
<v Speaker 3>on drugs. He's engaged to a girl, and Julie wants

1518
01:12:13.560 --> 01:12:15.439
<v Speaker 3>nothing to do with this girl. She's like, I'm not

1519
01:12:15.479 --> 01:12:17.079
<v Speaker 3>going to meet her. I don't want anything to do

1520
01:12:17.159 --> 01:12:20.760
<v Speaker 3>with her. And she's got a mom who is definitely

1521
01:12:20.880 --> 01:12:23.000
<v Speaker 3>invested in this relationship so she can be like a

1522
01:12:23.079 --> 01:12:26.199
<v Speaker 3>TikTok star. Then you have Grace and the youngest one,

1523
01:12:26.279 --> 01:12:31.319
<v Speaker 3>he's the voice of reason. And oh the grandparents Julie's parents.

1524
01:12:31.399 --> 01:12:34.800
<v Speaker 3>The father I think his name's Harvey two. He and

1525
01:12:34.960 --> 01:12:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Savannah despise each other and they have this like bolt

1526
01:12:40.079 --> 01:12:43.520
<v Speaker 3>like rip each other apart conversation on camera where you're like,

1527
01:12:44.239 --> 01:12:46.159
<v Speaker 3>you're like holding your head. You're like, oh my god,

1528
01:12:46.199 --> 01:12:48.000
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe they went through with this on camera.

1529
01:12:48.920 --> 01:12:52.000
<v Speaker 3>It is like the most complicated family and it is

1530
01:12:52.319 --> 01:12:55.439
<v Speaker 3>nothing that you thought from the original version of the show.

1531
01:12:55.840 --> 01:12:58.479
<v Speaker 3>That one was like package with a nice bow, yeah,

1532
01:12:58.520 --> 01:13:02.800
<v Speaker 3>and this one you're like, oh my god. Julie's parents

1533
01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:06.199
<v Speaker 3>hate Todd, and then Julie's parents crossed a son, and

1534
01:13:06.359 --> 01:13:11.039
<v Speaker 3>now they basically have transferred their feelings about their deceased

1535
01:13:11.159 --> 01:13:14.000
<v Speaker 3>son onto Chase. So Chase gets away with everything, but

1536
01:13:14.079 --> 01:13:16.760
<v Speaker 3>it's actually probably led him into a deeper addiction.

1537
01:13:17.159 --> 01:13:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know Chase had addiction problems.

1538
01:13:19.760 --> 01:13:21.680
<v Speaker 3>No, I didn't either, And it's heartbreaking because he's like

1539
01:13:21.800 --> 01:13:23.760
<v Speaker 3>sitting on the couch and he's such a he's got

1540
01:13:23.840 --> 01:13:26.079
<v Speaker 3>funny he's like his dad. He's got like funny one liners.

1541
01:13:26.439 --> 01:13:29.159
<v Speaker 3>But he's got the sensitivity of his mom. But his

1542
01:13:29.520 --> 01:13:31.800
<v Speaker 3>arms or I don't know anything about that much about

1543
01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:35.439
<v Speaker 3>like certain addictions, but like you know, when like he

1544
01:13:35.560 --> 01:13:37.680
<v Speaker 3>has no muscle on his body, it's just like these

1545
01:13:37.800 --> 01:13:40.880
<v Speaker 3>thin arms where it just looks like he never exercises

1546
01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:44.319
<v Speaker 3>or eats healthier. And You're like, I'm worried about him,

1547
01:13:44.439 --> 01:13:46.640
<v Speaker 3>and I'm worried about Julie. I'm worried about Julie. I'm

1548
01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:49.239
<v Speaker 3>getting better about it because I've been like listening to

1549
01:13:49.319 --> 01:13:52.479
<v Speaker 3>that podcast to just check in on her. I would

1550
01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:56.439
<v Speaker 3>love to interview her. I think she's getting When she

1551
01:13:56.600 --> 01:13:59.479
<v Speaker 3>first came out of prison, I was really worried about her.

1552
01:13:59.520 --> 01:14:02.119
<v Speaker 3>But then and the last episode, someone who was in

1553
01:14:02.199 --> 01:14:04.840
<v Speaker 3>prison with her, this really cool lady, I think her

1554
01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:08.600
<v Speaker 3>name is Sharita. She came on and talked to Savannah.

1555
01:14:08.640 --> 01:14:12.079
<v Speaker 3>They were in prison together, and she reads this letter

1556
01:14:12.239 --> 01:14:17.079
<v Speaker 3>that Julie wrote to Sharita and basically said, I prayed

1557
01:14:17.119 --> 01:14:19.319
<v Speaker 3>that God would send me a strong black woman who

1558
01:14:19.399 --> 01:14:22.000
<v Speaker 3>could be a great influence for my granddaughter Chloe. And

1559
01:14:22.239 --> 01:14:24.760
<v Speaker 3>he gave me. He gave you to me, and we

1560
01:14:24.840 --> 01:14:26.319
<v Speaker 3>were going to be we're gonna be friends for the

1561
01:14:26.359 --> 01:14:29.239
<v Speaker 3>rest of our lives. And you're I don't know. I like,

1562
01:14:29.359 --> 01:14:32.279
<v Speaker 3>there's so many layers to it. I find endlessly fascinating.

1563
01:14:33.239 --> 01:14:36.640
<v Speaker 3>It is not what people would think it is. Right.

1564
01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm just just you know, Oh God at that

1565
01:14:40.079 --> 01:14:42.560
<v Speaker 2>other show just irritated me to no end.

1566
01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:45.319
<v Speaker 1>Kate, Yeah, and he irritates me to no end. But

1567
01:14:45.439 --> 01:14:46.720
<v Speaker 1>I do feel for Julie.

1568
01:14:47.760 --> 01:14:50.000
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't bother me as much anymore because on the

1569
01:14:50.039 --> 01:14:52.560
<v Speaker 3>podcast he said, I absolutely hated doing my show. It

1570
01:14:52.640 --> 01:14:54.479
<v Speaker 3>was like so over it. I didn't really want to

1571
01:14:54.520 --> 01:14:56.039
<v Speaker 3>do it. I was doing it for the kids. That

1572
01:14:56.239 --> 01:14:59.840
<v Speaker 3>level of transparency I really appreciate because we talked to

1573
01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:03.560
<v Speaker 3>these reality stars. That's why I like to interview people

1574
01:15:03.560 --> 01:15:05.840
<v Speaker 3>that are off the show for a while, because then

1575
01:15:05.880 --> 01:15:08.319
<v Speaker 3>you get the real authenticity. When they're in it, they

1576
01:15:08.479 --> 01:15:11.399
<v Speaker 3>will will say and do anything to keep their job. Yes,

1577
01:15:11.680 --> 01:15:14.359
<v Speaker 3>and there's a level of transparency that's happening even with

1578
01:15:14.439 --> 01:15:17.439
<v Speaker 3>the parents that I'm like, Okay, now this is really

1579
01:15:17.520 --> 01:15:18.279
<v Speaker 3>what was going on.

1580
01:15:20.039 --> 01:15:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of that, next week, I'm talking to Olivia Plath again.

1581
01:15:24.359 --> 01:15:26.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh see, that's that's another one. I think she's really

1582
01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:27.920
<v Speaker 3>pretty transparent.

1583
01:15:28.600 --> 01:15:31.479
<v Speaker 2>It's great because she really she either did or has

1584
01:15:31.560 --> 01:15:33.479
<v Speaker 2>broken her contract with the TLC. She didn't give a

1585
01:15:33.479 --> 01:15:35.279
<v Speaker 2>shit before, and she really doesn't.

1586
01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:35.399
<v Speaker 1>Give a shit.

1587
01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:37.840
<v Speaker 3>She don't give a shit now she didn't give a shit,

1588
01:15:37.920 --> 01:15:38.800
<v Speaker 3>then save a shit now.

1589
01:15:39.119 --> 01:15:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Like I've had actual you know, speaking of like having

1590
01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:43.600
<v Speaker 2>lets the way, I've had actual lunch with Olivia. And

1591
01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:46.880
<v Speaker 2>she couldn't be more easy to talk to, a normal

1592
01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:50.880
<v Speaker 2>and so beyond wise for her years, you know.

1593
01:15:51.880 --> 01:15:54.119
<v Speaker 3>Especially coming from that family system where it's like you

1594
01:15:54.319 --> 01:15:55.439
<v Speaker 3>have all those kids.

1595
01:15:55.279 --> 01:15:58.439
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, her own family and then that family.

1596
01:15:58.600 --> 01:15:58.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1597
01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:01.560
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, they talk about her a lot and welcome to

1598
01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:04.079
<v Speaker 2>Pathhil and I'm like, she is a not bothered, she's out.

1599
01:16:04.119 --> 01:16:05.800
<v Speaker 2>She was like in France and she was in Croatia,

1600
01:16:05.920 --> 01:16:06.520
<v Speaker 2>she was in Italy.

1601
01:16:06.640 --> 01:16:07.239
<v Speaker 1>She's like, oh.

1602
01:16:08.920 --> 01:16:12.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Sometimes sometimes I use the crayon box to explain things,

1603
01:16:12.920 --> 01:16:16.880
<v Speaker 3>situations and people. The Plath family are a box of

1604
01:16:17.079 --> 01:16:22.359
<v Speaker 3>eight thick dollar store crayons. She is a box of

1605
01:16:22.439 --> 01:16:25.000
<v Speaker 3>one sixty four, one sixty fours. Can't hang out with

1606
01:16:25.039 --> 01:16:30.039
<v Speaker 3>boxes of eight, you know what I mean, that's so weird.

1607
01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:35.359
<v Speaker 1>But yes, that's where you came up with that. That's

1608
01:16:35.399 --> 01:16:36.520
<v Speaker 1>actually your brain.

1609
01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:39.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Some people are just so basic. They don't see

1610
01:16:39.319 --> 01:16:41.600
<v Speaker 3>beyond that, and they're you know, and they and theirs

1611
01:16:41.640 --> 01:16:43.800
<v Speaker 3>are thick because they're they're troubled and they have not

1612
01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:46.039
<v Speaker 3>read a book in fourteen years, so they don't really

1613
01:16:46.119 --> 01:16:50.039
<v Speaker 3>know basic things. And you know, she's been to Croatia

1614
01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:53.199
<v Speaker 3>in France, but her life is much more full of

1615
01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:54.640
<v Speaker 3>different colors. Yeah.

1616
01:16:55.199 --> 01:16:58.000
<v Speaker 1>And Michael almost escaped, but he suck got sucked again.

1617
01:16:58.399 --> 01:17:00.520
<v Speaker 3>Because he's a He's as my mother I would say,

1618
01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:02.079
<v Speaker 3>criminally stupid.

1619
01:17:02.479 --> 01:17:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Bless him, bless his heart. It's so cute. Listen, everybody,

1620
01:17:08.399 --> 01:17:09.560
<v Speaker 1>you know where to find k Casey.

1621
01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:12.159
<v Speaker 3>You know what, though, I would love for people to

1622
01:17:12.359 --> 01:17:15.119
<v Speaker 3>go and do two things for me. The Bonus podcasts

1623
01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:18.880
<v Speaker 3>on Patreon but also on Apple podcasts. And also to

1624
01:17:19.119 --> 01:17:22.199
<v Speaker 3>follow or to subscribe to my what to watch list.

1625
01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:25.760
<v Speaker 3>You have substack dot com because I want you guys

1626
01:17:25.800 --> 01:17:27.239
<v Speaker 3>to get the list of what to watch each week,

1627
01:17:27.279 --> 01:17:29.239
<v Speaker 3>because you would have missed thirst trap if I had

1628
01:17:29.279 --> 01:17:30.640
<v Speaker 3>not even mentioned that, you know what I mean.

1629
01:17:31.239 --> 01:17:37.000
<v Speaker 2>And then I constantly constantly look at your Oh that's awesome.

1630
01:17:37.359 --> 01:17:40.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's Kksey dot substack dot com and that's what

1631
01:17:40.199 --> 01:17:40.920
<v Speaker 1>to watch and that's free.

1632
01:17:41.640 --> 01:17:44.199
<v Speaker 3>Free comes right to your email box. God bless, and

1633
01:17:44.319 --> 01:17:46.760
<v Speaker 3>you look at it, you go, ah, shit, you might

1634
01:17:46.840 --> 01:17:50.720
<v Speaker 3>not know God, God bless from Chris Farah used to

1635
01:17:50.720 --> 01:17:52.399
<v Speaker 3>say God Bless, and I got that from her.

1636
01:17:53.119 --> 01:17:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I feel like she says it.

1637
01:17:54.760 --> 01:17:57.520
<v Speaker 3>She says it all the time hers, but she says

1638
01:17:57.520 --> 01:17:59.359
<v Speaker 3>it like fifteen more times than we do. But it

1639
01:17:59.479 --> 01:18:02.840
<v Speaker 3>definitely Wade weighs on me and I enjoy it. It's

1640
01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:04.039
<v Speaker 3>a good way to She.

1641
01:18:04.119 --> 01:18:08.079
<v Speaker 2>Says it in a frantic way like I don't know. Yeah,

1642
01:18:08.640 --> 01:18:10.399
<v Speaker 2>it's like I mean, you know, like who's who amonks?

1643
01:18:10.439 --> 01:18:10.960
<v Speaker 1>But God bless.

1644
01:18:11.680 --> 01:18:13.000
<v Speaker 3>You know what she is like if you go to

1645
01:18:13.239 --> 01:18:15.439
<v Speaker 3>lunch with her or dinner with her, she'll talk to

1646
01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:18.560
<v Speaker 3>the waiter and she'll find out everything about the waiter,

1647
01:18:18.800 --> 01:18:20.960
<v Speaker 3>and then the waiter will mess up something and then

1648
01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:23.800
<v Speaker 3>she'll apologize to the waiter as if she was the waiter,

1649
01:18:24.119 --> 01:18:26.000
<v Speaker 3>and then talk to the manager about how the waiter

1650
01:18:26.079 --> 01:18:26.960
<v Speaker 3>should not be fired.

1651
01:18:27.520 --> 01:18:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Does that make Yeah, I'm gonna tell you that going

1652
01:18:29.960 --> 01:18:32.600
<v Speaker 2>out to a meal with Chris and Matt is rough

1653
01:18:34.039 --> 01:18:35.159
<v Speaker 2>because Matt also.

1654
01:18:36.640 --> 01:18:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I love your tattoos. That's color looks so good to you.

1655
01:18:41.079 --> 01:18:43.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, we don't know her. We are here to

1656
01:18:43.319 --> 01:18:44.039
<v Speaker 1>talk to each other.

1657
01:18:44.239 --> 01:18:46.640
<v Speaker 3>Yea, yeah, Matt and be like how's your mom? Yeah?

1658
01:18:46.840 --> 01:18:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh you're so pretty. I bet you have Italian background.

1659
01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:50.399
<v Speaker 1>We don't care.

1660
01:18:51.159 --> 01:18:54.439
<v Speaker 3>Just tell me about your first boyfriend. You know he

1661
01:18:54.560 --> 01:18:57.159
<v Speaker 3>did that to you. Get out of here. God.

1662
01:18:58.079 --> 01:19:00.000
<v Speaker 2>The two of them just went to dinner or something

1663
01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:01.399
<v Speaker 2>the other day and he wrote me. He's like, oh

1664
01:19:01.439 --> 01:19:03.760
<v Speaker 2>I just saw Chris. I was like, oh god, y'all

1665
01:19:03.800 --> 01:19:05.439
<v Speaker 2>even have a conversation. Did you only just talk to

1666
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<v Speaker 2>the people around you?

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01:19:06.680 --> 01:19:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:08.239
<v Speaker 1>He was like, yeah, we do do that.

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01:19:08.359 --> 01:19:10.000
<v Speaker 3>Well. I have the opposite problem. I was leaving a

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01:19:10.039 --> 01:19:12.359
<v Speaker 3>restaurant on Sunday and I saw Shannon Badoor sitting with

1671
01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:13.960
<v Speaker 3>her dad and I said hi to her, and then

1672
01:19:14.000 --> 01:19:16.079
<v Speaker 3>my husband came over and was like, the car is

1673
01:19:16.159 --> 01:19:18.479
<v Speaker 3>pulled up or leaving you? Like he has to rip

1674
01:19:18.560 --> 01:19:21.039
<v Speaker 3>me away because then I would just because I want

1675
01:19:21.079 --> 01:19:22.920
<v Speaker 3>to ask her everything about OC. But like she used

1676
01:19:22.920 --> 01:19:24.079
<v Speaker 3>to talk to her dad. You know what I mean,

1677
01:19:25.039 --> 01:19:28.039
<v Speaker 3>what's the same da same Jean Jean. She said to Dan,

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01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:31.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, my dad is ninety six years old, and

1679
01:19:31.239 --> 01:19:34.119
<v Speaker 3>Dan said, you look really good for ninety six. Yeah,

1680
01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:36.119
<v Speaker 3>but you could tell the dad was like, I really

1681
01:19:36.239 --> 01:19:38.600
<v Speaker 3>just want to sit with my daughter. And that's when

1682
01:19:38.920 --> 01:19:40.399
<v Speaker 3>and I'm glad Dance said that's me. I got in

1683
01:19:40.399 --> 01:19:41.520
<v Speaker 3>the car and I was like, you're right. He was

1684
01:19:41.600 --> 01:19:44.800
<v Speaker 3>just sort of like, I, you know what, that's all fun,

1685
01:19:44.920 --> 01:19:46.920
<v Speaker 3>great show, blah blah blah, like I want to be

1686
01:19:46.960 --> 01:19:47.439
<v Speaker 3>with my daughter.

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01:19:48.399 --> 01:19:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Did you get any information out of her before your

1688
01:19:50.760 --> 01:19:51.560
<v Speaker 2>husband pulled you away?

1689
01:19:52.239 --> 01:19:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Uh, not too much, but she just was like, you know,

1690
01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:57.560
<v Speaker 3>it's been it's been a it's a been a heck

1691
01:19:57.600 --> 01:19:59.560
<v Speaker 3>of a week or two or three or four. Yeah.

1692
01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Luckily she's not in the middle of it, so

1693
01:20:01.760 --> 01:20:02.359
<v Speaker 1>that's good for her.

1694
01:20:02.479 --> 01:20:04.439
<v Speaker 3>I did say, was I like that part of the

1695
01:20:04.760 --> 01:20:07.399
<v Speaker 3>last episode where her daughter was back on camera. She

1696
01:20:07.520 --> 01:20:12.159
<v Speaker 3>looks super happy her daughter. And you know what, you

1697
01:20:12.239 --> 01:20:14.000
<v Speaker 3>could say whatever you want about these women, but I

1698
01:20:14.119 --> 01:20:16.119
<v Speaker 3>do think when they have kids, you kind of get

1699
01:20:16.119 --> 01:20:19.199
<v Speaker 3>a sense of like their parenting when you see the

1700
01:20:19.720 --> 01:20:23.159
<v Speaker 3>adult kids, and it seems like her kids really enjoy

1701
01:20:23.319 --> 01:20:25.760
<v Speaker 3>nice relationship with her, and they're all kind of independent

1702
01:20:25.920 --> 01:20:27.079
<v Speaker 3>and happy people.

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01:20:27.680 --> 01:20:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I agree, not because the David Badoura will just say

1704
01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:31.399
<v Speaker 1>that allegedly.

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01:20:31.880 --> 01:20:35.279
<v Speaker 3>I would not think so. Okay, kay, I'll love I've

1706
01:20:35.319 --> 01:20:37.840
<v Speaker 3>always heard that though with Shannon's kids, because I live

1707
01:20:37.880 --> 01:20:39.600
<v Speaker 3>in the same town. The people have always said her

1708
01:20:39.680 --> 01:20:44.039
<v Speaker 3>kids are really nice kids. Okay, listen, this is not

1709
01:20:44.119 --> 01:20:48.000
<v Speaker 3>a shann Badoura podcast. Okay, I'll talk to you later,

1710
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<v Speaker 3>but