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<v Speaker 1>Imagine a patient comes into your clinic, right, their jaw

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<v Speaker 1>is just it's swollen to the size of a grapefruit.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we've all seen it, right, It's inflamed, incredibly painful.

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<v Speaker 1>So you admit them, You hook them up to an

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<v Speaker 1>IV of the strongest, broadest spectrum antibiotics you have, and

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<v Speaker 1>you wait for the swelling.

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<v Speaker 2>To go down, and then it does absolutely nothing exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>The infection just continues to rage. And why is that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because the most potent drug in the world is

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<v Speaker 1>completely useless if the physical terrain like actually prevents it

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<v Speaker 1>from reaching the bacteria.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're hitting on honestly, one of the most frustrating

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<v Speaker 2>realities in clinical practice. I mean, we train so hard

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<v Speaker 2>to memorize which drug kills which.

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<v Speaker 3>Bug, right, the classic matching gig exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But we often completely overlook the mechanical delivery system. We

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<v Speaker 2>aren't treating a static, plastic model of a job. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a living thing, right, It's a dynamic, highly compartmentalized

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<v Speaker 2>biological system, and the rules of engagement they change entirely

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<v Speaker 2>depending on the micro environment of that specific tissue, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is exactly why today's deep dive is custom tailored for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So whether you're a dental student you know, prepping for clinicals,

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<v Speaker 1>a young professional refining your habits, or just a self

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<v Speaker 1>learner who wants to understand the why behind the protocols.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the mechanical why is so important.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is. We are working through a massive stack

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<v Speaker 1>of notes today from the fourteenth edition of Antibiotic.

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<v Speaker 2>Essentials, edited by doctor Burke A. Kuna.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one and the mission today isn't just to

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<v Speaker 1>like rattle off guideline lists.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what textbooks are for, right.

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<v Speaker 1>We are extracting the core foundational tenets of rational antibiotic

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<v Speaker 1>prescribing and mapping them directly onto head, neck, and oral infections.

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<v Speaker 2>We're getting into the pharmacokinetics, the physiological barriers, and the

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<v Speaker 2>really specific drug quirks that basically dictate success or failure

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<v Speaker 2>in dentistry.

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<v Speaker 1>So to understand those protocols, I mean, we really have

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<v Speaker 1>to start with tissue penetration.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, absolutely. The textbook emphasizes this r and over,

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<v Speaker 2>and antibiotics efficacy is strictly governed by its ability to

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<v Speaker 2>literally physically achieve a therapeutic concentration at the side of

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<v Speaker 2>the infection. It has to get there first, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>in an acute infection like a rapidly spreading facial cellulitis,

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<v Speaker 2>the body actually does a lot of the heavy lifting

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<v Speaker 2>for the drug.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the acute inflammatory response alters the vascular permeability precisely.

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<v Speaker 2>You have this localized release of cytokine's histamines, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all those inflammatory mediators, and they cause vasodilation exactly, and

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<v Speaker 2>the tight junctions between the endothelial cells that line the

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<v Speaker 2>blood vessels they literally pull apart. Oh wow, Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>vessels become leaky. And this increased microvascular permeability it allows

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<v Speaker 2>the antibiotics circulating in the serum to just effortlessly pour

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<v Speaker 2>into the interstitial fluid of the infected soft tissue.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but the textbook draws a pretty hard line. When

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<v Speaker 1>that acute cellulitis like organizes into a chronic, walled off abscess.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's a completely different ball game.

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<v Speaker 1>The rules of tissue penetration completely invert.

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<v Speaker 2>They do, because the anatomy of an abscess is fundamentally

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<v Speaker 2>different from just inflamed tissue, and abscess is a highly

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<v Speaker 2>organized capsule. It's full of necrotic tissue, fibrine, white blood cells,

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<v Speaker 2>and just a massive bacterial.

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<v Speaker 1>Load, just nasty mix.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But crucially, the interior of that capsule is a vascular

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<v Speaker 2>meaning no blood flow exactly. There is zero capillary network

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<v Speaker 2>feeding the center of that pus cavity.

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<v Speaker 1>So, okay, trying to resolve a mature abscess with a

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<v Speaker 1>systemic oral antibiotic, it's essentially like trying to deliver mail

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<v Speaker 1>to a house in a neighborhood with no roads.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great way to put it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, it doesn't matter if you have the fastest mail

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<v Speaker 1>truck or you know, a million letters, there's no physical

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<v Speaker 1>path to the house. That delivery fails. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>pave a rate first.

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<v Speaker 2>That captures the mechanical reality perfectly. The text states definitively,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean definitively, that antibiotics cannot eradicate organisms from

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<v Speaker 2>areas with impaired blood supply.

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<v Speaker 3>This is just circulated right past it, right past the capsule.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is why surgical intervention, you know, incision and

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<v Speaker 2>drainage or I and D is an absolute, non negotiable

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<v Speaker 2>prerequisite for a cure.

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<v Speaker 1>You literally have to drain it.

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<v Speaker 2>You must physically decompress the cavity and establish a drainage route.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to alter the physical terrain before the systemic

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<v Speaker 2>chemical therapy can even begin to do its job on

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<v Speaker 2>the surrounding inflamed tissue.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so that mechanical reality, it leads right into another

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<v Speaker 1>trap the textbook highlights, which is this huge discrepancy between

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<v Speaker 1>in vitro and in vivos susceptibility.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, this trips up so many people, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Because a clinician sends a pulent sample from say, a

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<v Speaker 1>periodontal pocket, to the microbiology lab, and the report comes

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<v Speaker 1>back saying the bugs are susceptible to a specific.

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<v Speaker 2>Antibiotic, and the immediate temptation is to just write the

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<v Speaker 2>prescription exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You see, susceptible, You write the script.

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<v Speaker 2>But relying surely on that lab report ignores everything we

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<v Speaker 2>just talked about regarding tissue penetration.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the lab isn't the human body.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. In vitro testing, it happens in this highly controlled,

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<v Speaker 2>standardized broth or aggar in a Petrie dish. The lab

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<v Speaker 2>is simulating standard serum concentrations of the drug and the blood.

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<v Speaker 2>But in vivo, you know, inside the living, breathing patient,

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<v Speaker 2>the drug concentration in the serum almost never matches the

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<v Speaker 2>concentration deep in the bone matrix or the cerebro spinal

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<v Speaker 2>fluid or a necrotic periodontal pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>So the lab just assumes a perfect delivery system it does.

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<v Speaker 2>A drug might look like an absolute targeted missile strike

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<v Speaker 2>in the Petrie dish, but if its molecular size, or

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<v Speaker 2>its protein binding affinity or lipid solubility prevents it from

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<v Speaker 2>penetrating the actual tissue you're targeting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to fail.

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<v Speaker 2>Clinically, it will completely fail. You always have to cross

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<v Speaker 2>reference the lab susceptibility report with the known pharmacokinetic profile

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<v Speaker 2>of the drug for that specific anatomical site.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, that's wild. Well, let's talk about the actual mechanism

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<v Speaker 1>of action once the drug does manage to reach the site. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>the text compares bactericidal drugs right, which actively induce bacterial

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<v Speaker 1>cell death, with bacteriostatic drugs, which just inhibit replication processes

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<v Speaker 1>like protein synthesis.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, the killers versus the pausers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And instinctively, as a patient or a doctor, it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like we should always reach for the bacteriicityl you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the actively destroying agent.

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<v Speaker 2>Most clinicians have that exact instinct. But doctor Kuna's textbook

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<v Speaker 2>clarifies that for the vast majority of routine infections, bactericidal

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<v Speaker 2>and bacteriostatic antibiotics achieve clinical cure at the exact same rate.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, really, how does simply pausing bacterial replication achieve the

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<v Speaker 1>same timeline as actively exploding.

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<v Speaker 2>The cell wall Because the antibiotic isn't operating in a

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<v Speaker 2>vacuum you know, ok, a bacteriostatic agent, it halts the

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<v Speaker 2>exponential growth phase of the pathogen. It pins the bacteria

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<v Speaker 2>down so they can't overwhelm the local tissue.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, I see, And at.

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<v Speaker 2>That point, the host's own immune system, the neutrophils, the macrophages,

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<v Speaker 2>they sweep through and figositize the static bacteria, clean up

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<v Speaker 2>the mess exactly, they clear the infection. You are heavily

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<v Speaker 2>relying on the patient's endogenous immune response, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Means you only strictly require a bactericidal drug when the

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<v Speaker 1>immune system, for whatever reason, cannot perform that sweep.

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<v Speaker 2>You hit the nail on the head. The textbook lists

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<v Speaker 2>very specific, very critical exceptions where bactericidal action is mandatory.

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<v Speaker 2>One is endocarditis, because the heart valves actually lack a

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<v Speaker 2>dedicated blood supply to deliver those white blood cells.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Another is meningitis due to the immune privileged nature of

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<v Speaker 2>the central nervous system. And finally, patients with profound febrel leukopenia.

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<v Speaker 1>So patients without an immune system.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, yeah, if a patient doesn't have a functional white

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<v Speaker 2>blood cell count, a bacteriostatic drug will just stall the

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<v Speaker 2>infection until the pill bottle is empty, and then and

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<v Speaker 2>the bacteria will simply resume replicating.

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<v Speaker 1>For a standard dental infection in a healthy host, the

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<v Speaker 1>distinction between cytyl and static is clinically.

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<v Speaker 2>Irrelevant, completely irrelevant.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Okay, knowing that opens up our options, which really

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<v Speaker 1>brings us to the broader strategy of antibiotic selection and

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<v Speaker 1>the looming threat of resistance.

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<v Speaker 2>The big scary superbugs.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The text introduces this concept called resistance potential, and we

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<v Speaker 1>tend to assume that writing any antibiotic prescription contributes equally

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<v Speaker 1>to the global rise of superbugs.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people think that, but the data actually

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<v Speaker 2>shows that acquired resistance is highly drug specific.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh interesting, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a critical distinction. Certain molecular structures inherently drive rapid

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<v Speaker 2>resistance like which ones. Well, the book highlights a zittomycin,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when used against Streptococcus pneumonia, as having a notoriously

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<v Speaker 2>high resistance potential.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, even if you don't overprescribe it.

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<v Speaker 2>Even with conservative use, the bacteria rapidly acquire or upregulate

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<v Speaker 2>these e flex pumps to literally just spit the drug

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<v Speaker 2>back out of their cells, or they alter their ribosomal

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<v Speaker 1>So the drug just trains the bacteria to defeat it

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<v Speaker 1>very quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Contrast that with something like doxycycline, which the TEFT categorizes

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<v Speaker 1>having a low resistance potential.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I mean, despite decades of heavy widespread use and

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<v Speaker 2>everything from acne to respiratory infections, bacteria really struggle to

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<v Speaker 2>mount widespread systemic resistance to doxycycline.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that the.

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<v Speaker 2>Structural hurdles required for the pathogen to bypass tenttracyclin inhibition

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<v Speaker 2>are simply much much higher?

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<v Speaker 1>Got it?

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<v Speaker 2>So the clinical takeaway here is that when you're designing

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<v Speaker 2>an empiric therapy regimen and two drugs offer equivalent coverage

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<v Speaker 2>for your suspected bug, you always default to the one

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<v Speaker 2>with the intrinsically lower resistance potential.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that makes sense, But I want to push back

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<v Speaker 1>on another strategic paradigm in the text.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's hear.

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<v Speaker 1>Mono therapy versus common therapy.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the book takes this.

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<v Speaker 1>Aggressive stance that monotherapy is almost always preferred. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if we are facing a severe mixed flora oral infection,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't throwing two or three different mechanisms of action at

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<v Speaker 1>the site guaranteed better coverage.

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<v Speaker 2>It definitely seems logical, right, Yeah, but it actually creates

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<v Speaker 2>more problems than it solves. Outside of highly specific protocol

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<v Speaker 2>driven exceptions like tuberculosis or HIV or certain crazy pseudomonal infections.

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<v Speaker 2>Blindly stacking antibiotics does not prevent resistance.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait really, what does it do then?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first, it drastically increases the risk of medication errors,

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<v Speaker 2>and it compounds the likelihood of adverse side effects.

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<v Speaker 1>Double the drugs, double the side.

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<v Speaker 2>Effects exactly, But more importantly, you risk competitive antagonism.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Imagine you prescribe a bacteria static drug that halts

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<v Speaker 2>cellular processes right right, and at the same time, you

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<v Speaker 2>prescribe a bactericidal beta lactum that relies on active cell

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<v Speaker 2>wall synthesis to cause the cell to lise and explode.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I see where this is going.

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<v Speaker 2>Monotherapy using a single, appropriately targeted, broad enough agent is cleaner,

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<v Speaker 1>Which ties perfectly into what the textbook calls the most

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<v Speaker 2>The intravenous to oral switch, right, and.

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<v Speaker 1>The data shows this switch saves roughly ten dollars per

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The IV two being the saline flushes the nursing

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<v Speaker 1>Like if a patient is admitted for a huge facial swelling,

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<v Speaker 1>stepping them down to a feels like a massive downgrade.

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<v Speaker 2>oral bioavailability break that down force. So bioavailability is the

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And an IVY drug is essentially one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 2>Correct because you bypass the gut and the liver entirely

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<v Speaker 2>you're mainlining it. But the textbook points out that several

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<v Speaker 2>highly relevant antibiotics in dentistry have exceptional oral bioavailability. Which

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<v Speaker 2>ones we are talking about clindamycin, matronodozol, amoxicillin, and doxycycline.

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<v Speaker 2>Their chemical structures allow them to absorb so efficiently across

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<v Speaker 1>Push seriously indistinguishable, pretty much identical.

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<v Speaker 2>So if a patient has a functioning gut, keeping them

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<v Speaker 3>Theater, medical feed or wax.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not medical science. The switch to oral therapy should

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Let's apply that specific strategy to the actual pathogens

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Kuna's text breaks down impyic therapy regimens for severe

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<v Speaker 3>The usual suspects here.

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<v Speaker 1>Are oral anaerobes which thrive in the deep oxygen depleted

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<v Speaker 1>periodental pockets, and oral stryptococcy right.

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<v Speaker 2>The classic dental dugs.

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<v Speaker 1>So if that patient is hospitalized with the severe facial

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<v Speaker 1>space infection, what is the initial IV therapy targeting those

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<v Speaker 2>The standard textbook recommendation is clindamycin at six hundred milligram

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<v Speaker 1>Let's focus on clindamycin for a second. Why is it

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<v Speaker 2>its mechanism of action. How so Well, clindamycin is highly.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it easily crosses lipid cell membranes, which allows it

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's perfect for dental abscesses.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, and once it's inside, it binds to the

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<v Speaker 2>fifty s ribosomal subunit of the anaerobic bacteria, rapidly shutting

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<v Speaker 2>down protein synthesis. It absolutely decimates the oral anaerobic populations

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<v Speaker 2>that drive those deep fascil space infections.

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<v Speaker 1>And when that hospitized patient stabilizes and we apply that

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<v Speaker 1>IV to PO switch, what is the step down therapy.

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<v Speaker 2>You utilize that near perfect bioavailability we talked about. They

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<v Speaker 2>step down to clindamycin three hundred milligrams orly every eight

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<v Speaker 2>was a beta lactam, they switched to a maxiicellin clavulin eate.

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<v Speaker 3>It's augmentin right at bugmenton and.

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<v Speaker 2>A dose of eight hundred and seven hundred five one

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<v Speaker 1>Nice, okay, But beyond the deep tissue bacterial infections, the

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<v Speaker 1>oral cavity is also a battleground for viral, fungal and

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<v Speaker 2>So definitely it's a jungle in there.

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<v Speaker 1>And the text differentiates treatment from mouth ulcers and vesicles

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<v Speaker 2>The differential diagnosis is critical here because the mechanisms of

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<v Speaker 2>the treatments are completely divergent. Like if the vesicles are

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<v Speaker 2>viral specifically herpie simplex virus or HSV, the textbook points

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<v Speaker 2>to a cyclover.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always wondered about this. How does a cyclover specifically

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<v Speaker 1>target the virus without destroying the host's own cellular replication?

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<v Speaker 2>A cyclover is honestly an incredibly elegant drug.

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<v Speaker 1>How does it work.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a nucleoside analog, but it is administered in an

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it only.

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<v Speaker 2>Becomes activation when it encounters thymidine kinase. And that's an

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly once the viral enzyme activates it, the drug incorporates

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<v Speaker 2>itself into the replicating viral DNA strand, and because it

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<v Speaker 1>So it breaks the chain.

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<v Speaker 2>The viral DNA polymerase literally cannot add the next link.

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<v Speaker 2>Viral replication halts completely and the healthy human cells are

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<v Speaker 1>That is fascinating, but I mean, if the oral ulcers

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<v Speaker 1>are bacterial, like the severe punched out lesions caused by

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<v Speaker 1>spirit shates in Vincent's angina, you know, trenchmouthl cycle over

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing, nothing at all. For spiro shades, the treatment of

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<v Speaker 2>choice remains penicillin G. The classic yep spara shavs have

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<v Speaker 2>a unique highly sensitive cell wall architecture. The beta lactum

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<v Speaker 2>ring of penicillin G aggressively binds to the penicillin binding

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<v Speaker 1>The spira shape and that breaks the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>It inhibits the cross linking of their peptidoglicin layer. The

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So that's viral and spira shase rounding out the

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<v Speaker 1>mucosal infections we have oropharyngeal candidiasis to rush. Right. Fungal overgrowth, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Driven by candida albicins. And this frequently occurs in immunocompromised

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<v Speaker 2>patients or in patients who have recently completed a course

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<v Speaker 2>of heavy broad spectrum antibiotics because.

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<v Speaker 1>The antibiotics wiped out their normal bacterial.

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<v Speaker 2>Flora exactly, eliminating a competition for the yeast. So the

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<v Speaker 1>And the treatment options here are clotrimosoal troches which just

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<v Speaker 1>swish and swallow, or systemI fluconazole correct and these work

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you got it. Human cell membranes rely on cholesterol,

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<v Speaker 2>but fungal cell membranes rely on or gostol verstability.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, that's the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. These anti fingal agents either bind directly to ergostrol

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<v Speaker 1>So for anyone taking notes, you basically have three main

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<v Speaker 1>or spirashet ulcers, and the fungal overgrowths like thrush.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great way to categorize it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one more throat area condition we need to cover, though,

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<v Speaker 1>because it highlights a massive prescribing trap, pharyngitis right strep throat.

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<v Speaker 1>For true group A streptococcal pharyngitis, the textbook actually prefers

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<v Speaker 1>a moxocillin over standard penicillin just for better GI absorption.

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<v Speaker 2>It's much easier for the patient to tolerate.

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<v Speaker 1>But what happens if the clinician misdiagnoses the sore throat?

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<v Speaker 1>What if the patient actually has infectious mononucleosis caused by

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<v Speaker 1>the epstein bar virus and the clinician prescribes a moxacillin anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>You trigger a spectacular adverse event.

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<v Speaker 1>It's bad, right.

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<v Speaker 2>If you introduce a moxocillin into a system actively fighting

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety percent, And it looks exactly like a severe drug allergy. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The patient usually ends up in the er convinced they're

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<v Speaker 2>It perfectly mimics an allergy, but it's fundamentally different. This

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<v Speaker 3>What is it? Then?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a delayed immune complex mediated reaction. The epstein bar

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<v Speaker 2>virus basically hyperstimulates the patient's immune system, altering how it

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<v Speaker 2>recognizes the immoxicillin molecule, so it gets confused exactly. The

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<v Speaker 2>to widespread cutaneous inflammation. The patient isn't permanently allergic to ammoxicillin,

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<v Speaker 2>They're just experiencing a transient virus induced immune confusion.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. That epstein bar rash perfectly illustrates the danger of

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<v Speaker 1>treating a symptom or like a lab test rather than

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<v Speaker 1>understanding the underlying real of the microbiome, absolutely which brings

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<v Speaker 1>us directly to the textbook's golden rule. This is perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>Do not use antibiotics to treat colonization.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the bedrock of infectious disease stewardship, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is the human oral cavity, the gut, the skin.

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<v Speaker 2>They are not sterile environments lilion clothes. No, they are

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<v Speaker 2>healthy flora. These organisms are colonizers. They occupy physical space

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<v Speaker 2>mere presence, provide colonization resistance against highly virulent outside pathogens.

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<v Speaker 1>And a pathogen, conversely, is an organism that has breached

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<v Speaker 1>that meucastal barrier, evaded the immune system, and is actively

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<v Speaker 1>causing tissue destruction. Purrelens in inflammation.

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<v Speaker 2>Precisely so, if you swab a perfectly healthy patient's throat

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<v Speaker 2>and the lab culture's Staphylococcus aureus, that does not mean

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<v Speaker 2>the patient has a staff infection. It simply means s

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<v Speaker 2>ore is a transient colonizer in that specific biome. If

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<v Speaker 2>you aren't treating a disease.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just doing damage.

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<v Speaker 2>You are detonating a chemical bomb in a healthy ecosystem,

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<v Speaker 2>wiping out the beneficial flora and basically selecting for highly

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you treat the clinical signs of active infection, not

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<v Speaker 1>the piece of paper from the microbiology lab exactly. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's finish up by digging into the mechanical quirks of

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<v Speaker 1>the specific drugs we prescribe most often in dentistry, starting

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<v Speaker 2>The heavy hitter.

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<v Speaker 1>We mentioned amoxocillin clavulinate earlier as a great step down drug,

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<v Speaker 1>but it has a pre notorious reputation for causing severe

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very, very common complaint. The amoxiscillin component is

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<v Speaker 2>generally well tolerated, but the clavulinate, which is added to

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<v Speaker 2>protect the amoxicillin from being destroyed by bacterial enzymes, is

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<v Speaker 2>highly irritating to the gut. Why is this so irritating

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<v Speaker 2>Because clavulinate acts as a modalin receptor.

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<v Speaker 3>Agonist O key, what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>It chemically mimics the hormone modil in, which controls smooth

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<v Speaker 2>muscle contractions in your gastri intestinal tract.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, so it is actively stimulating hyperactive peristolysis in the

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<v Speaker 1>small intestine.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It forces the gut to become hypermodal, leading to intense

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<v Speaker 2>cramping and diarrhea.

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<v Speaker 3>So how do you stop that?

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<v Speaker 2>To mitigate this, patients must be strictly instructed to take

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<v Speaker 2>augmenton with a large meal, not just the snacks. A

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<v Speaker 2>large meal. The physical presence of food buffers the mucosall

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<v Speaker 2>lining slows gastric emptying and significantly reduces that modal in

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<v Speaker 2>agonizing effect. It allows the patient to actually finish the

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<v Speaker 2>prescribed course.

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<v Speaker 1>That is such a practical tip. Oh connext quirk clinomycin.

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<v Speaker 1>We praised its bone penetration and its affinity for anaerobes,

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<v Speaker 1>but its ability to clear out anaerobic bacteria is exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what triggers its dreaded black box warning right.

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<v Speaker 2>The risk of Claustridium difficile or sea diff colitis everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>worst truly. The lower intestine is a densely packed anaerobic ecosystem,

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<v Speaker 2>and because clintamycin is so incredibly efficient at destroying anaerobes,

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<v Speaker 2>it essentially clearcuts the healthy flora of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Colon and seedf is just waiting there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Seed dis is a spore forming bacterium that often exists

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<v Speaker 2>in the gut in very small suppressed numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kept in check by the competition for nutrients from

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<v Speaker 1>the good bacteria.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>But when clintamycin wipes out that competition, the seed diff

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<v Speaker 2>spores germinate into vegetative cells and rapidly overgrow in that

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<v Speaker 2>newly emptied ecological niche.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they release toxins.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, they begin secreting toxin A and toxin B, which

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<v Speaker 2>actively destroy the mucosal lining of the colon, leading to

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<v Speaker 2>severe watery, potentially life threatening pseudomembranous colitis.

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<v Speaker 1>So any patient prescribed clindamycin must be counseled to immediately

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<v Speaker 1>stop the drug and contact you if they experience persistent

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<v Speaker 1>watery diarrhea.

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<v Speaker 2>Immediate cessation is critical. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally, let's look at doxycycling. We love it for its

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<v Speaker 1>low resistance potential, but it has rigid, unforgiving rules regarding

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<v Speaker 1>how it interacts with the patient's diet and physiology.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, very unforgiving. Doxycyclin is a safety Category D drug

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<v Speaker 2>and pregnancy, and it is strictly contraindicated in young children.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of the calcium affinity.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, due to its intense molecular affinity for calcium, it

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<v Speaker 2>actively binds to developing calcium structures, leading to permanent gray

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<v Speaker 2>brown discoloration of erupting teeth and potentially inhibiting fetal skeletal development.

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<v Speaker 1>But that extreme affinity for calcium doesn't just apply to

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<v Speaker 1>teeth and bones. It applies to what the patient eats

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<v Speaker 1>while taking the pill. Right. Absolutely, it binds with calcium, magnesium,

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<v Speaker 1>and iron in the stomach through a chemical process called chalation.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, the doxycycline molecule physically latches onto these divalent and

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<v Speaker 2>trivalent metal ions in the gastrointestinal tract.

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<v Speaker 1>So if a patient takes it with a glass of milk.

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<v Speaker 2>Or the magnesium in an over the counter tacit, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it forms a massive and soluble molecultor complex.

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<v Speaker 1>The molecule literally becomes too large to physically cross the

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<v Speaker 1>intestinal epithelium into the bloodstream.

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<v Speaker 2>It neutralizes the therapy entirely. The Cholada drug complex simply

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<v Speaker 2>passes through the digestive tract unabsorbed. You can prescribe the

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<v Speaker 2>absolute perfect dose, but if the patient washes it down

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<v Speaker 2>with a dairy product or takes it alongside their mourning

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<v Speaker 2>iron supplement, their serum concentration of the antibiotic will literally

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<v Speaker 2>be zero.

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<v Speaker 1>So doxycycling must be taken on an empty stomach, empty.

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<v Speaker 2>Stomach or spaced at least two to three hours apart

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<v Speaker 2>from any interacting cass.

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<v Speaker 1>It is wild how much of infectious disease management boils

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<v Speaker 1>down to basic chemistry and physical plumbing.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is plumbing.

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<v Speaker 1>We have covered a tremendous amount of clinical ground today.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's distill the core tenets for you, the dental professionals listening.

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<v Speaker 2>From doctor Kuna's text. The foundational rules are pretty clear. First,

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<v Speaker 2>surgical drainage is non negotiable and a biotics cannot reach

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<v Speaker 2>in a vascular abscess.

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<v Speaker 3>Pay the road first exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Second, favor monotherapy to avoid competitive antagonism and adverse events. Third,

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<v Speaker 2>transition from IV to highly bioavailable oral drugs like clindamycin

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<v Speaker 2>or amoxicillin the exact moment the patient stabilizes, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally, respect the microbiome. Never prescribe antibiotics to eradicate transient colonizers.

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<v Speaker 3>Rules. So, if you are scribbling.

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<v Speaker 1>Notes for clinicals right now, let's test your recall on

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<v Speaker 1>the step down protocols we covered. Here's a little review

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<v Speaker 1>exercise for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see if they were paying attention.

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<v Speaker 1>You are treating a patient recovering from a severe deep

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<v Speaker 1>fascial space dental infection. They are hemodynamically stable, the swelling

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<v Speaker 1>is reducing, and they are ready to be discharged from

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital and switch from IV to oral therapy. According

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<v Speaker 1>to the pharmacokinetic principles we discussed, which two highly bioavailable

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<v Speaker 1>oral antibiotics are the preferred step down options to target

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<v Speaker 1>the oral anaerobes and streptococ We are.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking for the two drugs that offer in your one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent absorption to maintain those therapeutic serum levels.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll give you a second, got your answers.

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<v Speaker 1>If you charted clindamycin or amoxilin clavulanate augmentant, you are

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely cress.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the heavy hitters for oral step down therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>To wrap up, we want to leave you with something

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<v Speaker 1>to consider as you step back into the clinic tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>We spend so much time studying how to efficiently destroy bacteria,

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<v Speaker 1>But as our understanding of the human microbiome deepens, how

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<v Speaker 1>might our definition of what constitutes a dangerous pathogen versus

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<v Speaker 1>a protective colonizer shift in the coming decades.

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<v Speaker 2>It really forces us to reconsider the entire search and

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<v Speaker 2>destroy paradigm we were taught. Will the future of dental

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<v Speaker 2>medicine eventually move away from broad spectrum chemical warfare? Will

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<v Speaker 2>we one day utilized targeted bacteriophage therapy or prescribe highly

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<v Speaker 2>engineered probiotics to actively seed the oral cavity, shaping the

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<v Speaker 2>ecosystem through competitive exclusion rather than just trying to clear

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<v Speaker 2>cut it with antibiotics.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a profound shift in perspective, because an infection

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<v Speaker 1>isn't just a static X ray, is a chaotic, living ecosystem.

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<v Speaker 1>And the deeper our understanding of that physiological train becomes,

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<v Speaker 1>the better equipped you are to navigate it. That's all

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<v Speaker 1>for to day's deep dive. We'll catch it next time.
