WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.839 AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:08.839 on the iHeartRadio app. Well, Trump has kind of floated 4 00:00:08.880 --> 00:00:12.519 the idea of maybe backing out of the ABC News debate. 5 00:00:12.560 --> 00:00:14.839 On September tenth is where we kick off Swamp Watch. 6 00:00:15.519 --> 00:00:17.359 Swamp is horrible. 7 00:00:17.120 --> 00:00:18.440 The government doesn't work. 8 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:23.839 Mann, make this like a reality TV show, A bad noos. 9 00:00:23.879 --> 00:00:26.320 Always a pleasure to be anywhere from Washington, DC. 10 00:00:26.600 --> 00:00:30.519 Hey, Joey, A town all too clearly built on a 11 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:33.200 swamp and in so many ways still a swamp. 12 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:34.880 I have a watch of Malarkey. 13 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:35.600 Boy, he said, Drained the Swamp. 14 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:38.520 I said, oh that's so he keeppph. 15 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:42.320 You know the thing, we can't have another dummy as 16 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:42.880 a president. 17 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:45.880 Okay, if we can't have another dummy as a president, 18 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:50.719 all right. He was asked if he wants these microphones muted. 19 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:53.399 If you remember during the CNN debate with Joe Biden 20 00:00:53.479 --> 00:00:58.679 back in June, when the candidate that wasn't speaking it 21 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:03.479 wasn't his turn, the candidate's microphone would be turned off. 22 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:07.680 That's what and this is the weird math in my head, 23 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:11.319 but that's what the Trunk campaign wants in the September 24 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:14.760 tenth debate is microphones that get turned off. 25 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:17.319 Would you want the microphone muted in the debate whenever 26 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:18.040 you're out speaking? 27 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:20.079 We agree to the same rules. 28 00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:20.480 I don't know. 29 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:21.480 It doesn't matter to me. 30 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:24.799 I'd rather have it probably on. But the agreement was 31 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:27.200 that it would be the same as it. 32 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:27.799 Was last time. 33 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:31.560 In that case, it was muted. I didn't like it 34 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:34.239 the last time, but it worked out fine. When asked 35 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:37.319 Biden how it worked out, it was fine. And I 36 00:01:37.319 --> 00:01:39.400 think it should be the same. We agreed to the 37 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:44.120 same rules, same rules, the same specifications, and I. 38 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:46.760 Think that's probably what it should be. But they're trying 39 00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:47.359 to change it. 40 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:49.200 The truth is they're trying to get out of it 41 00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:52.159 because she doesn't want a debate. She's not a good debater, 42 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:55.239 she's not a smart person. She doesn't want a debate. 43 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:59.719 You said this morning that you think that the Harris 44 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:02.480 camp Pain wants the mic to stay unmuted so that 45 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:07.480 they catch him losing it, being unhinged off the cuff, 46 00:02:07.519 --> 00:02:09.639 and it's not going to be good for him. That's 47 00:02:09.719 --> 00:02:11.680 kind of what his people love, but this isn't really 48 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:12.319 for his people. 49 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:12.560 Is it. 50 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:15.840 It's for the swing states and the still undecided voters. 51 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:17.879 Well, I think her. 52 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:22.439 Listen, she didn't get any votes for president, and her 53 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:28.159 best debate moment was when she said to Joe Biden, 54 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:30.719 who would eventually choose her to be his running mate, 55 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:34.000 that she was that little girl. You remember that the 56 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:38.400 whole thing about bussing, and basically she was insinuating that 57 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:41.560 Joe Biden was racist because of his support for bussing 58 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:45.680 or it was an It was a moment. It didn't 59 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:48.400 help her in her presidential run back then, but it 60 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:53.000 was a moment that made its way into the sort 61 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:57.039 of the viral sphere of what is presidential politics. I 62 00:02:57.080 --> 00:02:59.199 think that's the only thing I can think is that 63 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:02.599 they would want another moment like that where where Trump 64 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:06.680 kind of gets flustered. He's saying things like she's lying, 65 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:09.800 she's lying in the middle of her answer, so that 66 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:12.520 she can have that moment where she puts her finger 67 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:15.840 up and says, excuse me, I'm speaking now. 68 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:20.919 Are you familiar with the Angus Reid Institute? Never heard it, 69 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:24.879 nor have I. It's a nonprofit research organization. It conducted 70 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:28.960 a survey as the DNC formally nominated her as the 71 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:32.919 presidential candidate, and the Angus Reid Institute found that she 72 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:37.800 has extended her lead over former President Trump. They say 73 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:41.639 that the national poll reveals a growing generational and demographic 74 00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:45.879 divide in voter preferences. She holds a substantial lead among 75 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:49.039 thirteen eighteen to thirty four year olds, fifty nine percent 76 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:52.840 favor Harris compared to thirty percent for Trump. It's even 77 00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:56.599 more pronounced among Black voters, she leads sixty seven percent 78 00:03:56.680 --> 00:04:00.280 to sixteen percent. And Hispanic voters she's really he'd been 79 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:03.719 able to claw back some of the voters that abandon Biden, 80 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:07.199 some of the Hispanic voting block. She maintains a fifty 81 00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:12.439 seven percent edge over his thirty three percent the poll. 82 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:13.360 There was another poll. 83 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:17.519 Fairleigh Dickinson University came out their relatively. 84 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:20.160 Well regarded poll, the sixteen seat exactly. I only know 85 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:21.079 them from basketball. 86 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:24.800 They came out with a poll that suggested it was 87 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:27.480 released on Friday, that said that Harris has a seven 88 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:32.480 point lead nationally. Again, a nationwide pole like that isn't 89 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:34.360 going to be what decides this. This is going to 90 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:36.040 be state by state and we're going to get into 91 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:39.639 more battleground issues. But you've got to throw in the 92 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:42.319 RFK Junior if it makes an impact. We'll see in 93 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:45.879 the next few days the RFK Junior suspending his campaign, 94 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:49.839 throwing his weight behind Donald Trump. He is speaking of 95 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:54.360 President former President Trump is speaking before the National Guard 96 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:59.800 right now, and he just called up former Democratic Congress 97 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:01.519 Will and Tulci Gabbard. 98 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:02.959 Up to the stage. Two. 99 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:03.519 Uh. 100 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:05.319 I don't know if she's officially endorsed him. 101 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:07.920 I don't know what the exact relationship is, but I 102 00:05:07.959 --> 00:05:11.800 know that she's been much more supportive of him than 103 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:14.199 she was of Kamala Harris or Joe Biden. 104 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:16.319 All right, coming up next, let's get down to dollars 105 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:20.199 and cents. How much is the Harris campaign raised in 106 00:05:20.560 --> 00:05:22.839 the post coming out party. We'll tell you about it. 107 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:26.399 And Gavin Newsom on a podcast, uh oh said the 108 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:27.720 quiet part out loud. 109 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:31.920 Yeah, look at you your hip quiet part out loud. 110 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:34.040 Well, he was very de muorus, very mindful. 111 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:35.920 Oh my goodness, who are you? 112 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:40.560 I'm a TikToker now sorry, I'll take that back. 113 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:44.199 Jen wrote to us if Kamala wanted the mics unmuted, 114 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:47.199 it would be so she will be interrupted. Because the 115 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:50.759 more she's being interrupted, the less she's speaking, A major 116 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:54.360 win for someone who notoriously can't speak clearly or effectively. 117 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:57.240 That's an interesting take, I do. It's weird to me 118 00:05:57.360 --> 00:05:59.759 that that's even an issue. I mean, the idea of 119 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:04.000 turning on and off the microphones, because we saw this 120 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:07.199 leading up to the debate at the end of June's 121 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:11.920 comparisons to previous debates where you know, like Mitt Romney 122 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:17.079 and Barack Obama were very gentlemanly, you know, nice to 123 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:20.160 each other. Disagreed, but were nice to each other. And 124 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:26.240 how different that is. Gavin Newsom was in Chicago last week. 125 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:28.639 He of course, was the one who made the announcement 126 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:31.319 for the California delegates to push Kamala Harris over the 127 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:34.920 top that she needed to secure the nomination. Looked like 128 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:39.399 he was giving that speech through gritted teeth. He has 129 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:42.199 been caught, I think that might be the right word, 130 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:46.839 caught joking about the process by which Kamala Harris was 131 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:50.879 chosen to take over. It seemed logical, right, It seemed 132 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:54.480 like a logical choice that the vice presidential candidate would 133 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:56.600 be the one who took over for the president on 134 00:06:56.639 --> 00:06:57.360 the campaign. 135 00:06:57.720 --> 00:06:58.560 But she was not. 136 00:06:59.079 --> 00:07:03.439 I mean remember in say February, March April, we were 137 00:07:03.480 --> 00:07:07.560 talking about her not even being a likable candidate, and 138 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:10.959 then when it happens where Biden steps down and she's chosen. 139 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:15.639 It's weird how everybody coalesced behind her so quickly. Well, 140 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:18.879 Gavin Newsom was on a podcast called Pod Save America 141 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:23.240 last week and when he was they asked jokingly about 142 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:30.360 this very compact switch process whereby Biden steps down, Kamala 143 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:32.079 Harris has chosen as the anointed one. 144 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:33.480 There's an intangible it's different. 145 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:34.879 How are you feeling about the switch? 146 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:37.120 I mean this switch. 147 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:41.040 Now, we went through a very open process, very inclusive process. 148 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:42.600 It was bottom up. 149 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:43.879 I don't know if you know that. 150 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:45.040 Yes, that's what I've been told. 151 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:48.120 Yes, the primary. 152 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:49.839 Very very fast. 153 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:56.879 It was a primary that thirty minutes convention between tweets 154 00:07:56.879 --> 00:07:58.319 and amazing. 155 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:00.759 Yeah, it's been amazing, But it is What is amazing 156 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:02.319 is how unified everybody is. 157 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:05.079 The facade is crumbling. 158 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:08.800 It is so weird. That whole exchange was very weird. 159 00:08:08.920 --> 00:08:11.279 Yes, Well, and I got to point out the fact 160 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:14.120 that we were talking to some people at the convention 161 00:08:14.279 --> 00:08:17.680 who off the air were telling us, how thin skinned 162 00:08:17.720 --> 00:08:21.480 he is, and how this is not going over well, 163 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:23.879 and he is pissed off, and the fact that he 164 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:27.519 was left out and that he got that stupid assignment to, 165 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:29.600 you know, be the face. 166 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:33.799 Of the delegation. Oh man, he's mad. What's interesting is 167 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:36.279 the way that that is being written up. One of 168 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:40.559 the Newsweek articles said that he was simply joking about 169 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:43.600 how Vice President Kamala Harris was chosen to be the nominee, 170 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:46.600 but it didn't mention anything about the line where he says, 171 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:50.000 that's what I've been told to say. Newsweek doesn't mention 172 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:52.360 that at all. A couple other different writeups of it 173 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:56.759 do include that line where that's what he was told 174 00:08:56.799 --> 00:09:00.320 to say. Kamala Harris did see that polling boot. She 175 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:04.919 also saw a fundraising boost. The Harris campaign says it 176 00:09:04.919 --> 00:09:08.480 has raised five hundred and forty million dollars for its 177 00:09:08.480 --> 00:09:12.639 election fight, no problems getting supporters to open their wallets 178 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:15.159 since July twenty first, of course, which was when Biden 179 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:18.480 said that he was going to step down. Campaign chair 180 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:21.440 Jen O'Malley Dylan wrote in a memo that was released 181 00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:24.240 by the campaign just before the acceptance speech Thursday night, 182 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:29.200 they officially crossed the five hundred million dollar mark, and 183 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:32.320 immediately after the speech, she says, we saw our best 184 00:09:32.320 --> 00:09:39.000 fundraising hour since launch day, which is expected, right. I mean, 185 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:43.000 that kind of momentum, that kind of honeymoon period is 186 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:46.440 exactly what we were expecting going into or I should say, 187 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:48.200 coming out of. Now that we're at the end of it, 188 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:51.320 coming out of that convention, when is. 189 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:53.639 The interview happening? When is that going to happen? 190 00:09:53.720 --> 00:09:53.799 So? 191 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:55.080 I don't know. 192 00:09:57.519 --> 00:10:00.039 Maybe a rumor that it's NBC, but I don't I 193 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:02.279 have seen anything specific on that. 194 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:06.399 Charlemagne the God joins us. Now, we were hoping to 195 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:09.120 hook up with you when we were in Chicago, but 196 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:11.559 I guess we just missed each other. Not like anyone 197 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:13.120 was busy or anything all week. 198 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:17.159 Right, Yeah, it was a pretty I came in Wednesday 199 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:19.720 and Thursday THO it was a pretty hectic forty eight out. 200 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:22.840 So let me ask you this, what are the odds 201 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:26.639 that you are the first interview that Kamala Harris agrees 202 00:10:26.679 --> 00:10:27.519 to sit down for. 203 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:31.200 Oh, I think we all already lost that. Bet. 204 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:34.879 I think, well, if if I saw correctly, Herrington Walls 205 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:38.080 are sitting down with NBC News this week, So I'm 206 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:40.639 not mistaken. But if you mean like a one on 207 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:42.320 one with me and Kamala, I don't know. 208 00:10:42.639 --> 00:10:46.320 I couldn't even tell you what those odds are. 209 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:49.279 You were one of the people who was advocating make 210 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:51.159 sure she did get out there and do one of 211 00:10:51.159 --> 00:10:53.559 these long form, long form interviews. 212 00:10:53.559 --> 00:10:55.240 Why why was that so important? 213 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:59.159 Do you think? Well, I think what she. 214 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:01.879 Did the first three weeks was incredible, you know, as 215 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:04.320 far as her ground game, Like you know, I think 216 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:07.440 I think going and doing that first made a lot 217 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:07.919 of sense. 218 00:11:08.879 --> 00:11:10.480 I thought it was important just because that. 219 00:11:10.519 --> 00:11:13.639 Was literally the only thing they were they were using 220 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:16.360 against her. But I mean it made sense to wait 221 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:19.559 until after the Democratic National Convention because you know, you 222 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:21.799 go to the DNC, you do your speech, you know, 223 00:11:21.919 --> 00:11:25.240 you lay out your you know, agenda. What she hadn't 224 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:27.639 been doing at those pepperalities even paying attention like you know, 225 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:30.080 just her wanting to rebuild the middle class and you know, 226 00:11:30.159 --> 00:11:32.000 having every everybody have the opportunity to own the home, 227 00:11:32.120 --> 00:11:33.799 everybody had the opportunity to own a small. 228 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:35.279 Business, putting more money into working class. So she had 229 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:37.240 she had been saying those things at the rallies. 230 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:40.039 But you know, saying that at the DNC it hit different. 231 00:11:40.440 --> 00:11:43.440 You know, everybody gets to hear it. They know that's 232 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:45.759 what she stands for. So now when she's going out 233 00:11:45.759 --> 00:11:50.919 doing her interviews, is just about her explaining those those positions. 234 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:53.519 I think if she would have probably did interviews over 235 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:55.799 the last three weeks, everybody would have been asking her 236 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:57.679 about President Biden. 237 00:11:57.440 --> 00:11:59.840 And you know, why didn't you speak up? 238 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:03.799 You know in regards to President Biden condition how long 239 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:06.240 did y'all you know, know or think that he wasn't 240 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:08.399 able to you know, carry on. 241 00:12:08.519 --> 00:12:09.639 I think it would have been a lot of that. 242 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:11.639 Now is really more so about. 243 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:13.799 Her, her and her agenda when she when she goes 244 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:15.039 out there and does it her interviews. 245 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:17.840 Yeah, I don't think I heard your take on when 246 00:12:17.919 --> 00:12:21.000 Biden stepped down. What was your reaction to that? 247 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:24.440 Oh? My take was about time I had. 248 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:26.399 I've been saying this for the past year and a half, 249 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:29.120 Like I've been saying this on every platform I've been on, 250 00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:32.200 whether it was Brekdays Club, whether it was The Daily Show, 251 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:33.960 and I was catching a lot of flag for it. 252 00:12:34.120 --> 00:12:36.679 I said it back in December, I said that, you know, 253 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:40.039 President Biden not getting no younger, you know, he's not 254 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:42.000 getting a new running mate, you know, because that was 255 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:44.919 another criticism. They wanted him to potentially cook or pick 256 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:47.039 a new running mate, which I never agreed with. But 257 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:48.480 I was just like, Yo, he's not getting no younger 258 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:49.240 and he's not getting. 259 00:12:49.000 --> 00:12:49.840 A new running mate. 260 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:51.679 So it's just like, yo, do us all the biggest 261 00:12:51.679 --> 00:12:54.360 favor and step down. Because another question that I was 262 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:57.240 asking for the past year some change, is the Biden 263 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:02.919 Harris ticket a winnable ticket. November twenty twenty four, I just. 264 00:13:02.840 --> 00:13:03.799 Felt like it wasn't. 265 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:06.240 I felt like all the polls and everything was pointing 266 00:13:06.679 --> 00:13:10.399 to you know, President Biden getting his ass kicked, you know, 267 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:13.879 come November. And so I think that they absolutely positively 268 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:15.720 made the right decision. I did an interview with John 269 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:19.120 Carl on This Week ABC earlier this year, and I said, 270 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:21.840 he needs to be leaning on the Vice President Moore, 271 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:24.759 he needs to be leaning on hysterrogates like Governor Joshapiro 272 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:27.519 and Governor Whitmerton and Governor Wes Moore and more. 273 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:29.240 I set that back in February. 274 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:32.600 So when he stepped down, I was just like, finally 275 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:36.600 about time, because I'm not a political pundit in no way, 276 00:13:36.639 --> 00:13:40.000 shape or form, nor of my political political strategists. I'm 277 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:41.879 just the person who has some eyes and some ears. 278 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:44.279 So I can see that. 279 00:13:45.799 --> 00:13:48.120 Come that he wasn't the person that should be running. 280 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:49.919 I don't know why people are way smarter than me 281 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:51.399 who get paid to do that couldn't see it. So 282 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:52.759 I was glad that he probably said that. 283 00:13:52.799 --> 00:13:54.639 We're talking with Charlottage and the God of course, host 284 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:57.120 of the radio show The Breakfast Club, author of a 285 00:13:57.159 --> 00:13:59.799 new book, by the way, coming out, Get Honest or Die, Lion, 286 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:01.960 small talk socks, and we'll talk about that coming up 287 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:03.840 in a little bit. But I wanted to ask you 288 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:06.720 more about this Joe Biden thing, so we had talked 289 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:08.879 about it too. We talked about, hey, wait a minute, 290 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:12.080 this guy's showing signs of decline. Whether it's cognitive, whether 291 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:15.600 it's physical, whatever it is, it's declined, and no one 292 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:19.240 seems to be acknowledging it. Do you feel like the 293 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:23.519 party or the White House was deceptive in the way 294 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:25.519 they talked about the condition of the president. 295 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:30.559 I'm not gonna say it was deceptive. I just thought 296 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.639 that they were pretty delusional, and I really think they 297 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:38.559 were underestimating Donald Trump yet again, same way the underestimated 298 00:14:38.559 --> 00:14:42.440 Donald Trump and twenty sixteen, same way, you know, they 299 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:44.720 underestimated them slightly in twenty. 300 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:46.759 Twenty, even though Biden President Biden did win. 301 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:49.720 I just felt like they were underestimating again, especially even 302 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:51.799 more so now because they're looking like, oh, this guy's 303 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:54.200 got you know, all of these criminal charges, he's been 304 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:58.399 in peached twice, Like there's no way the American people whatever, 305 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:01.720 you know, they're vote for him again. The poles were 306 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:05.399 saying otherwise. So I think that you know, even if 307 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:08.480 you know President Biden was showing slight signs of decline, 308 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:10.759 can't sit here and act like he wasn't doing some 309 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:13.679 good things, you know, while he was in office. And 310 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:15.519 I think that they thought that that was going to 311 00:15:15.559 --> 00:15:19.039 carry them over until they realized that, hey, no, it's not. 312 00:15:19.399 --> 00:15:22.159 Seventy percent of Americans said they did not want a 313 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:23.840 Biden Trump rematch. 314 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:24.759 One in four. 315 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:28.159 Americans said they had unfavorable views of both Biden and Trump. 316 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:31.159 Nicki Haley was absolutely correct when she said the first 317 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:34.679 party to get rid of their eighty year old candidate 318 00:15:34.919 --> 00:15:36.480 is going to be the party that winted this election. 319 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:38.879 I don't know if that's going to necessarily be the case, 320 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:40.399 but if you look at it, you know, the way 321 00:15:40.440 --> 00:15:43.759 it's trending right now, Poles say it will be, you know, 322 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:46.919 so so we'll see, you know. But I don't know 323 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:49.240 if they were deceptive as much as they were just 324 00:15:49.960 --> 00:15:56.519 you know, delusional and more so just underestimating underestimating Donald Trump. 325 00:15:56.759 --> 00:15:59.399 That's that's that's what I really believe. That's un estimating Trump. 326 00:15:59.480 --> 00:16:01.759 How did you I think the convention went. I mean, 327 00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:03.840 we've talked about how it was kind of like a scripted, 328 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:06.759 choreographed movie that they put on, right, and that there's 329 00:16:06.759 --> 00:16:09.080 not a lot of surprises this day and age when 330 00:16:09.080 --> 00:16:13.000 you get to those conventions. But there is some knock 331 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:17.559 on the DNC for focusing on celebrities and not everyday 332 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:21.279 Americans that need the Democrats to win. 333 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:27.799 I don't know if that's the case. They didn't have 334 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:30.720 any more celebrities than the RNC had. They might have 335 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:36.600 had more popular celebrities. I mean, the RNC had Hulk Hogan. 336 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:39.440 Yeah, but that L. Holgan's from like nineteen eighty five. 337 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:43.879 Yeah, but I mean it's the same. I mean, no, 338 00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:47.399 I love Oprah, but Oprah's from the eighties nineties as well. Like, 339 00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:51.080 I mean, it's just it's the same type of energy. 340 00:16:51.159 --> 00:16:53.679 Who do they have on the stage, Like Keenan Thompson 341 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:56.399 was out there right, who else? 342 00:16:57.679 --> 00:16:58.519 Kerry Washington. 343 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:00.759 I don't think it was a celebrit really driven is 344 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:02.440 people are making. 345 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:02.639 It out to be. 346 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:04.559 And I mean, you know, people like Carry Washington, They've 347 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:06.920 been at every DNC convention that as far as far 348 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:08.640 as I can remember. I mean, just be sitting at home, 349 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:11.359 Washington on television. This is the first convention I have 350 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:13.680 actually went to. But I don't, I don't. I don't 351 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:16.359 think it was celebrity driven. And it just sounds kind 352 00:17:16.359 --> 00:17:19.519 of crazy for anybody, you know. That's that's that's part 353 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:21.920 of the GOP to be talking about folks being celebrity 354 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:25.200 driven when the executive producer of Celebrity Apprentice. 355 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:28.039 Is the nominee. 356 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:33.359 Donald Trump is an actual celebrity, actual reality show star. 357 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:35.839 So it just seems kind of scrange to say that 358 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:38.119 the DNC is focused on celebrity. Uh. 359 00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:40.880 You can order Charlemagne's book called Get Honest or Die Lion, 360 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:42.160 Why Small Talk Sucks? 361 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:43.119 What's this book about? 362 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:45.279 Man? Exactly? 363 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:48.240 What the title says, you know, you know, I went 364 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:48.720 away on a. 365 00:17:48.720 --> 00:17:50.799 Spiritual retreat earlier this year, and you. 366 00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:52.279 Know, one of the things that came up from me 367 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:53.680 because it's just the way that I try to live 368 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:55.480 my life, and it was just kind of like a 369 00:17:55.559 --> 00:17:57.759 reinforcement of a value that I have. And it's like, 370 00:17:57.799 --> 00:18:00.440 stop lying to yourself and stop volunteer you're in those 371 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:02.200 lives to other people. Because when I was young, my 372 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:03.519 dad would always tell me, you're not. 373 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:05.480 Lying to yourself. You're not lying to me. When you lie, 374 00:18:05.480 --> 00:18:06.519 you're lying to yourself. 375 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:10.160 And I just think, like that's like the ultimate form. 376 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:12.960 Of delusion, Like, you know, there's no bigger lack of 377 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:16.079 self awareness and look in the mirror every day and you. 378 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:19.920 Know, tell yourself a complete and total lie. So I'm 379 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:22.599 just challenging people to, you know, wake up and be 380 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:26.440 the most honest versions of themselves. You know, don't lie 381 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:29.079 to yourself. When you can do that, then it'll be 382 00:18:29.160 --> 00:18:31.839 easy to not lie to other the other people. And 383 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:34.079 then you know, the why Small talks up is exactly that. 384 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:35.799 Why what if someone what if. 385 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:38.400 Someone's an a hole? Though, don't don't you should? They 386 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:41.200 should lie to themselves in the mirror and talk themselves 387 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:42.359 into not being an ahole. 388 00:18:43.559 --> 00:18:46.039 No, they gotta they should tell themselves they're ahole. First, 389 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:48.000 you gotta look in the mirror and say, I'm an 390 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:48.400 a hole. 391 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:51.440 I'm a complete douche. You know, this is why nobody 392 00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:54.559 likes me. Things aren't working out for me because it's me. 393 00:18:54.839 --> 00:18:56.599 I am the problem, Teller Swift. 394 00:18:56.400 --> 00:19:02.400 It's me the problem. Literally, you have to be completely 395 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:05.240 honest with yourself and then you'll you'll be able to 396 00:19:05.240 --> 00:19:05.960 correct some things. 397 00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:07.640 That's actually, you know, a great point. 398 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:09.480 Like you know, you you have to look in the 399 00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:10.920 mirror and see what's. 400 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:11.920 Wrong with you, like the mirror. 401 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:14.240