Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI
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Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. Well, Trump has kind of floated
Speaker 1: the idea of maybe backing out of the ABC News debate.
Speaker 1: On September tenth is where we kick off Swamp Watch.
Speaker 2: Swamp is horrible.
Speaker 3: The government doesn't work.
Speaker 4: Mann, make this like a reality TV show, A bad noos.
Speaker 3: Always a pleasure to be anywhere from Washington, DC.
Speaker 4: Hey, Joey, A town all too clearly built on a
Speaker 4: swamp and in so many ways still a swamp.
Speaker 3: I have a watch of Malarkey.
Speaker 1: Boy, he said, Drained the Swamp.
Speaker 3: I said, oh that's so he keeppph.
Speaker 5: You know the thing, we can't have another dummy as
Speaker 5: a president.
Speaker 4: Okay, if we can't have another dummy as a president,
Speaker 4: all right. He was asked if he wants these microphones muted.
Speaker 4: If you remember during the CNN debate with Joe Biden
Speaker 4: back in June, when the candidate that wasn't speaking it
Speaker 4: wasn't his turn, the candidate's microphone would be turned off.
Speaker 4: That's what and this is the weird math in my head,
Speaker 4: but that's what the Trunk campaign wants in the September
Speaker 4: tenth debate is microphones that get turned off.
Speaker 6: Would you want the microphone muted in the debate whenever
Speaker 6: you're out speaking?
Speaker 5: We agree to the same rules.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter to me.
Speaker 5: I'd rather have it probably on. But the agreement was
Speaker 5: that it would be the same as it.
Speaker 2: Was last time.
Speaker 5: In that case, it was muted. I didn't like it
Speaker 5: the last time, but it worked out fine. When asked
Speaker 5: Biden how it worked out, it was fine. And I
Speaker 5: think it should be the same. We agreed to the
Speaker 5: same rules, same rules, the same specifications, and I.
Speaker 3: Think that's probably what it should be. But they're trying
Speaker 3: to change it.
Speaker 5: The truth is they're trying to get out of it
Speaker 5: because she doesn't want a debate. She's not a good debater,
Speaker 5: she's not a smart person. She doesn't want a debate.
Speaker 1: You said this morning that you think that the Harris
Speaker 1: camp Pain wants the mic to stay unmuted so that
Speaker 1: they catch him losing it, being unhinged off the cuff,
Speaker 1: and it's not going to be good for him. That's
Speaker 1: kind of what his people love, but this isn't really
Speaker 1: for his people.
Speaker 3: Is it.
Speaker 1: It's for the swing states and the still undecided voters.
Speaker 3: Well, I think her.
Speaker 4: Listen, she didn't get any votes for president, and her
Speaker 4: best debate moment was when she said to Joe Biden,
Speaker 4: who would eventually choose her to be his running mate,
Speaker 4: that she was that little girl. You remember that the
Speaker 4: whole thing about bussing, and basically she was insinuating that
Speaker 4: Joe Biden was racist because of his support for bussing
Speaker 4: or it was an It was a moment. It didn't
Speaker 4: help her in her presidential run back then, but it
Speaker 4: was a moment that made its way into the sort
Speaker 4: of the viral sphere of what is presidential politics. I
Speaker 4: think that's the only thing I can think is that
Speaker 4: they would want another moment like that where where Trump
Speaker 4: kind of gets flustered. He's saying things like she's lying,
Speaker 4: she's lying in the middle of her answer, so that
Speaker 4: she can have that moment where she puts her finger
Speaker 4: up and says, excuse me, I'm speaking now.
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the Angus Reid Institute? Never heard it,
Speaker 1: nor have I. It's a nonprofit research organization. It conducted
Speaker 1: a survey as the DNC formally nominated her as the
Speaker 1: presidential candidate, and the Angus Reid Institute found that she
Speaker 1: has extended her lead over former President Trump. They say
Speaker 1: that the national poll reveals a growing generational and demographic
Speaker 1: divide in voter preferences. She holds a substantial lead among
Speaker 1: thirteen eighteen to thirty four year olds, fifty nine percent
Speaker 1: favor Harris compared to thirty percent for Trump. It's even
Speaker 1: more pronounced among Black voters, she leads sixty seven percent
Speaker 1: to sixteen percent. And Hispanic voters she's really he'd been
Speaker 1: able to claw back some of the voters that abandon Biden,
Speaker 1: some of the Hispanic voting block. She maintains a fifty
Speaker 1: seven percent edge over his thirty three percent the poll.
Speaker 3: There was another poll.
Speaker 4: Fairleigh Dickinson University came out their relatively.
Speaker 1: Well regarded poll, the sixteen seat exactly. I only know
Speaker 1: them from basketball.
Speaker 4: They came out with a poll that suggested it was
Speaker 4: released on Friday, that said that Harris has a seven
Speaker 4: point lead nationally. Again, a nationwide pole like that isn't
Speaker 4: going to be what decides this. This is going to
Speaker 4: be state by state and we're going to get into
Speaker 4: more battleground issues. But you've got to throw in the
Speaker 4: RFK Junior if it makes an impact. We'll see in
Speaker 4: the next few days the RFK Junior suspending his campaign,
Speaker 4: throwing his weight behind Donald Trump. He is speaking of
Speaker 4: President former President Trump is speaking before the National Guard
Speaker 4: right now, and he just called up former Democratic Congress
Speaker 4: Will and Tulci Gabbard.
Speaker 3: Up to the stage. Two.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: I don't know if she's officially endorsed him.
Speaker 4: I don't know what the exact relationship is, but I
Speaker 4: know that she's been much more supportive of him than
Speaker 4: she was of Kamala Harris or Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: All right, coming up next, let's get down to dollars
Speaker 1: and cents. How much is the Harris campaign raised in
Speaker 1: the post coming out party. We'll tell you about it.
Speaker 4: And Gavin Newsom on a podcast, uh oh said the
Speaker 4: quiet part out loud.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at you your hip quiet part out loud.
Speaker 3: Well, he was very de muorus, very mindful.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, who are you?
Speaker 3: I'm a TikToker now sorry, I'll take that back.
Speaker 1: Jen wrote to us if Kamala wanted the mics unmuted,
Speaker 1: it would be so she will be interrupted. Because the
Speaker 1: more she's being interrupted, the less she's speaking, A major
Speaker 1: win for someone who notoriously can't speak clearly or effectively.
Speaker 4: That's an interesting take, I do. It's weird to me
Speaker 4: that that's even an issue. I mean, the idea of
Speaker 4: turning on and off the microphones, because we saw this
Speaker 4: leading up to the debate at the end of June's
Speaker 4: comparisons to previous debates where you know, like Mitt Romney
Speaker 4: and Barack Obama were very gentlemanly, you know, nice to
Speaker 4: each other. Disagreed, but were nice to each other. And
Speaker 4: how different that is. Gavin Newsom was in Chicago last week.
Speaker 4: He of course, was the one who made the announcement
Speaker 4: for the California delegates to push Kamala Harris over the
Speaker 4: top that she needed to secure the nomination. Looked like
Speaker 4: he was giving that speech through gritted teeth. He has
Speaker 4: been caught, I think that might be the right word,
Speaker 4: caught joking about the process by which Kamala Harris was
Speaker 4: chosen to take over. It seemed logical, right, It seemed
Speaker 4: like a logical choice that the vice presidential candidate would
Speaker 4: be the one who took over for the president on
Speaker 4: the campaign.
Speaker 2: But she was not.
Speaker 4: I mean remember in say February, March April, we were
Speaker 4: talking about her not even being a likable candidate, and
Speaker 4: then when it happens where Biden steps down and she's chosen.
Speaker 4: It's weird how everybody coalesced behind her so quickly. Well,
Speaker 4: Gavin Newsom was on a podcast called Pod Save America
Speaker 4: last week and when he was they asked jokingly about
Speaker 4: this very compact switch process whereby Biden steps down, Kamala
Speaker 4: Harris has chosen as the anointed one.
Speaker 1: There's an intangible it's different.
Speaker 3: How are you feeling about the switch?
Speaker 2: I mean this switch.
Speaker 6: Now, we went through a very open process, very inclusive process.
Speaker 2: It was bottom up.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I've been told.
Speaker 3: Yes, the primary.
Speaker 2: Very very fast.
Speaker 1: It was a primary that thirty minutes convention between tweets
Speaker 1: and amazing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been amazing, But it is What is amazing
Speaker 6: is how unified everybody is.
Speaker 1: The facade is crumbling.
Speaker 3: It is so weird. That whole exchange was very weird.
Speaker 1: Yes, Well, and I got to point out the fact
Speaker 1: that we were talking to some people at the convention
Speaker 1: who off the air were telling us, how thin skinned
Speaker 1: he is, and how this is not going over well,
Speaker 1: and he is pissed off, and the fact that he
Speaker 1: was left out and that he got that stupid assignment to,
Speaker 1: you know, be the face.
Speaker 4: Of the delegation. Oh man, he's mad. What's interesting is
Speaker 4: the way that that is being written up. One of
Speaker 4: the Newsweek articles said that he was simply joking about
Speaker 4: how Vice President Kamala Harris was chosen to be the nominee,
Speaker 4: but it didn't mention anything about the line where he says,
Speaker 4: that's what I've been told to say. Newsweek doesn't mention
Speaker 4: that at all. A couple other different writeups of it
Speaker 4: do include that line where that's what he was told
Speaker 4: to say. Kamala Harris did see that polling boot. She
Speaker 4: also saw a fundraising boost. The Harris campaign says it
Speaker 4: has raised five hundred and forty million dollars for its
Speaker 4: election fight, no problems getting supporters to open their wallets
Speaker 4: since July twenty first, of course, which was when Biden
Speaker 4: said that he was going to step down. Campaign chair
Speaker 4: Jen O'Malley Dylan wrote in a memo that was released
Speaker 4: by the campaign just before the acceptance speech Thursday night,
Speaker 4: they officially crossed the five hundred million dollar mark, and
Speaker 4: immediately after the speech, she says, we saw our best
Speaker 4: fundraising hour since launch day, which is expected, right. I mean,
Speaker 4: that kind of momentum, that kind of honeymoon period is
Speaker 4: exactly what we were expecting going into or I should say,
Speaker 4: coming out of. Now that we're at the end of it,
Speaker 4: coming out of that convention, when is.
Speaker 1: The interview happening? When is that going to happen?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe a rumor that it's NBC, but I don't I
Speaker 4: have seen anything specific on that.
Speaker 1: Charlemagne the God joins us. Now, we were hoping to
Speaker 1: hook up with you when we were in Chicago, but
Speaker 1: I guess we just missed each other. Not like anyone
Speaker 1: was busy or anything all week.
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, it was a pretty I came in Wednesday
Speaker 6: and Thursday THO it was a pretty hectic forty eight out.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, what are the odds
Speaker 1: that you are the first interview that Kamala Harris agrees
Speaker 1: to sit down for.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think we all already lost that. Bet.
Speaker 6: I think, well, if if I saw correctly, Herrington Walls
Speaker 6: are sitting down with NBC News this week, So I'm
Speaker 6: not mistaken. But if you mean like a one on
Speaker 6: one with me and Kamala, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I couldn't even tell you what those odds are.
Speaker 4: You were one of the people who was advocating make
Speaker 4: sure she did get out there and do one of
Speaker 4: these long form, long form interviews.
Speaker 3: Why why was that so important?
Speaker 2: Do you think? Well, I think what she.
Speaker 6: Did the first three weeks was incredible, you know, as
Speaker 6: far as her ground game, Like you know, I think
Speaker 6: I think going and doing that first made a lot
Speaker 6: of sense.
Speaker 2: I thought it was important just because that.
Speaker 6: Was literally the only thing they were they were using
Speaker 6: against her. But I mean it made sense to wait
Speaker 6: until after the Democratic National Convention because you know, you
Speaker 6: go to the DNC, you do your speech, you know,
Speaker 6: you lay out your you know, agenda. What she hadn't
Speaker 6: been doing at those pepperalities even paying attention like you know,
Speaker 6: just her wanting to rebuild the middle class and you know,
Speaker 6: having every everybody have the opportunity to own the home,
Speaker 6: everybody had the opportunity to own a small.
Speaker 2: Business, putting more money into working class. So she had
Speaker 2: she had been saying those things at the rallies.
Speaker 6: But you know, saying that at the DNC it hit different.
Speaker 6: You know, everybody gets to hear it. They know that's
Speaker 6: what she stands for. So now when she's going out
Speaker 6: doing her interviews, is just about her explaining those those positions.
Speaker 6: I think if she would have probably did interviews over
Speaker 6: the last three weeks, everybody would have been asking her
Speaker 6: about President Biden.
Speaker 2: And you know, why didn't you speak up?
Speaker 6: You know in regards to President Biden condition how long
Speaker 6: did y'all you know, know or think that he wasn't
Speaker 6: able to you know, carry on.
Speaker 2: I think it would have been a lot of that.
Speaker 2: Now is really more so about.
Speaker 6: Her, her and her agenda when she when she goes
Speaker 6: out there and does it her interviews.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I heard your take on when
Speaker 1: Biden stepped down. What was your reaction to that?
Speaker 2: Oh? My take was about time I had.
Speaker 6: I've been saying this for the past year and a half,
Speaker 6: Like I've been saying this on every platform I've been on,
Speaker 6: whether it was Brekdays Club, whether it was The Daily Show,
Speaker 6: and I was catching a lot of flag for it.
Speaker 6: I said it back in December, I said that, you know,
Speaker 6: President Biden not getting no younger, you know, he's not
Speaker 6: getting a new running mate, you know, because that was
Speaker 6: another criticism. They wanted him to potentially cook or pick
Speaker 6: a new running mate, which I never agreed with. But
Speaker 6: I was just like, Yo, he's not getting no younger
Speaker 6: and he's not getting.
Speaker 2: A new running mate.
Speaker 6: So it's just like, yo, do us all the biggest
Speaker 6: favor and step down. Because another question that I was
Speaker 6: asking for the past year some change, is the Biden
Speaker 6: Harris ticket a winnable ticket. November twenty twenty four, I just.
Speaker 2: Felt like it wasn't.
Speaker 6: I felt like all the polls and everything was pointing
Speaker 6: to you know, President Biden getting his ass kicked, you know,
Speaker 6: come November. And so I think that they absolutely positively
Speaker 6: made the right decision. I did an interview with John
Speaker 6: Carl on This Week ABC earlier this year, and I said,
Speaker 6: he needs to be leaning on the Vice President Moore,
Speaker 6: he needs to be leaning on hysterrogates like Governor Joshapiro
Speaker 6: and Governor Whitmerton and Governor Wes Moore and more.
Speaker 2: I set that back in February.
Speaker 6: So when he stepped down, I was just like, finally
Speaker 6: about time, because I'm not a political pundit in no way,
Speaker 6: shape or form, nor of my political political strategists. I'm
Speaker 6: just the person who has some eyes and some ears.
Speaker 2: So I can see that.
Speaker 6: Come that he wasn't the person that should be running.
Speaker 6: I don't know why people are way smarter than me
Speaker 6: who get paid to do that couldn't see it. So
Speaker 6: I was glad that he probably said that.
Speaker 4: We're talking with Charlottage and the God of course, host
Speaker 4: of the radio show The Breakfast Club, author of a
Speaker 4: new book, by the way, coming out, Get Honest or Die, Lion,
Speaker 4: small talk socks, and we'll talk about that coming up
Speaker 4: in a little bit. But I wanted to ask you
Speaker 4: more about this Joe Biden thing, so we had talked
Speaker 4: about it too. We talked about, hey, wait a minute,
Speaker 4: this guy's showing signs of decline. Whether it's cognitive, whether
Speaker 4: it's physical, whatever it is, it's declined, and no one
Speaker 4: seems to be acknowledging it. Do you feel like the
Speaker 4: party or the White House was deceptive in the way
Speaker 4: they talked about the condition of the president.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna say it was deceptive. I just thought
Speaker 6: that they were pretty delusional, and I really think they
Speaker 6: were underestimating Donald Trump yet again, same way the underestimated
Speaker 6: Donald Trump and twenty sixteen, same way, you know, they
Speaker 6: underestimated them slightly in twenty.
Speaker 2: Twenty, even though Biden President Biden did win.
Speaker 6: I just felt like they were underestimating again, especially even
Speaker 6: more so now because they're looking like, oh, this guy's
Speaker 6: got you know, all of these criminal charges, he's been
Speaker 6: in peached twice, Like there's no way the American people whatever,
Speaker 6: you know, they're vote for him again. The poles were
Speaker 6: saying otherwise. So I think that you know, even if
Speaker 6: you know President Biden was showing slight signs of decline,
Speaker 6: can't sit here and act like he wasn't doing some
Speaker 6: good things, you know, while he was in office. And
Speaker 6: I think that they thought that that was going to
Speaker 6: carry them over until they realized that, hey, no, it's not.
Speaker 6: Seventy percent of Americans said they did not want a
Speaker 6: Biden Trump rematch.
Speaker 2: One in four.
Speaker 6: Americans said they had unfavorable views of both Biden and Trump.
Speaker 6: Nicki Haley was absolutely correct when she said the first
Speaker 6: party to get rid of their eighty year old candidate
Speaker 6: is going to be the party that winted this election.
Speaker 6: I don't know if that's going to necessarily be the case,
Speaker 6: but if you look at it, you know, the way
Speaker 6: it's trending right now, Poles say it will be, you know,
Speaker 6: so so we'll see, you know. But I don't know
Speaker 6: if they were deceptive as much as they were just
Speaker 6: you know, delusional and more so just underestimating underestimating Donald Trump.
Speaker 6: That's that's that's what I really believe. That's un estimating Trump.
Speaker 1: How did you I think the convention went. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've talked about how it was kind of like a scripted,
Speaker 1: choreographed movie that they put on, right, and that there's
Speaker 1: not a lot of surprises this day and age when
Speaker 1: you get to those conventions. But there is some knock
Speaker 1: on the DNC for focusing on celebrities and not everyday
Speaker 1: Americans that need the Democrats to win.
Speaker 6: I don't know if that's the case. They didn't have
Speaker 6: any more celebrities than the RNC had. They might have
Speaker 6: had more popular celebrities. I mean, the RNC had Hulk Hogan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that L. Holgan's from like nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I mean it's the same. I mean, no,
Speaker 6: I love Oprah, but Oprah's from the eighties nineties as well. Like,
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just it's the same type of energy.
Speaker 6: Who do they have on the stage, Like Keenan Thompson
Speaker 6: was out there right, who else?
Speaker 2: Kerry Washington.
Speaker 6: I don't think it was a celebrit really driven is
Speaker 6: people are making.
Speaker 2: It out to be.
Speaker 6: And I mean, you know, people like Carry Washington, They've
Speaker 6: been at every DNC convention that as far as far
Speaker 6: as I can remember. I mean, just be sitting at home,
Speaker 6: Washington on television. This is the first convention I have
Speaker 6: actually went to. But I don't, I don't. I don't
Speaker 6: think it was celebrity driven. And it just sounds kind
Speaker 6: of crazy for anybody, you know. That's that's that's part
Speaker 6: of the GOP to be talking about folks being celebrity
Speaker 6: driven when the executive producer of Celebrity Apprentice.
Speaker 2: Is the nominee.
Speaker 6: Donald Trump is an actual celebrity, actual reality show star.
Speaker 6: So it just seems kind of scrange to say that
Speaker 6: the DNC is focused on celebrity. Uh.
Speaker 4: You can order Charlemagne's book called Get Honest or Die Lion,
Speaker 4: Why Small Talk Sucks?
Speaker 3: What's this book about?
Speaker 2: Man? Exactly?
Speaker 6: What the title says, you know, you know, I went
Speaker 6: away on a.
Speaker 2: Spiritual retreat earlier this year, and you.
Speaker 6: Know, one of the things that came up from me
Speaker 6: because it's just the way that I try to live
Speaker 6: my life, and it was just kind of like a
Speaker 6: reinforcement of a value that I have. And it's like,
Speaker 6: stop lying to yourself and stop volunteer you're in those
Speaker 6: lives to other people. Because when I was young, my
Speaker 6: dad would always tell me, you're not.
Speaker 2: Lying to yourself. You're not lying to me. When you lie,
Speaker 2: you're lying to yourself.
Speaker 6: And I just think, like that's like the ultimate form.
Speaker 2: Of delusion, Like, you know, there's no bigger lack of
Speaker 2: self awareness and look in the mirror every day and you.
Speaker 6: Know, tell yourself a complete and total lie. So I'm
Speaker 6: just challenging people to, you know, wake up and be
Speaker 6: the most honest versions of themselves. You know, don't lie
Speaker 6: to yourself. When you can do that, then it'll be
Speaker 6: easy to not lie to other the other people. And
Speaker 6: then you know, the why Small talks up is exactly that.
Speaker 3: Why what if someone what if.
Speaker 1: Someone's an a hole? Though, don't don't you should? They
Speaker 1: should lie to themselves in the mirror and talk themselves
Speaker 1: into not being an ahole.
Speaker 6: No, they gotta they should tell themselves they're ahole. First,
Speaker 6: you gotta look in the mirror and say, I'm an
Speaker 6: a hole.
Speaker 2: I'm a complete douche. You know, this is why nobody
Speaker 2: likes me. Things aren't working out for me because it's me.
Speaker 2: I am the problem, Teller Swift.
Speaker 6: It's me the problem. Literally, you have to be completely
Speaker 6: honest with yourself and then you'll you'll be able to
Speaker 6: correct some things.
Speaker 2: That's actually, you know, a great point.
Speaker 6: Like you know, you you have to look in the
Speaker 6: mirror and see what's.
Speaker 2: Wrong with you, like the mirror.
Speaker 6: We tend to make it work one way, right, Like
Speaker 6: we can look in the mirror and check on.
Speaker 2: Everything that's absolutely correct.
Speaker 6: But can you look in the mirror and see what's wrong,
Speaker 6: like you've seen it. There's somebody walking around right now
Speaker 6: with an outfit that they had no business leaving the house,
Speaker 6: and they looked in the mirror and saw it. But
Speaker 6: they convinced themselves and looked good. But everybody else is
Speaker 6: seeing them and they're like, why would you leave the house.
Speaker 2: Dressed like that? They could have just been honest with
Speaker 2: themselves before they left out.
Speaker 6: No nobody else would have to tell them.
Speaker 1: Now, I'm going to be self conscious for the rest
Speaker 1: of the week.
Speaker 4: We missed it. We sure would have loved to have
Speaker 4: met you in Chicago. But thanks for taking time for
Speaker 4: us today.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 4: History was made just a short time ago in baseball.
Speaker 4: Danny Jansen became the first player in Major League Baseball
Speaker 4: history to play for.
Speaker 3: Both teams in one game.
Speaker 4: Boston Red Sox and Toronto Blue Jays started a game
Speaker 4: back on June twenty sixth, and it got interrupted because
Speaker 4: of rain. Danny Jansen was at bat for the Blue
Speaker 4: Jays when the game was suspended. About a month later,
Speaker 4: he was traded to the Red Sox, so he started well,
Speaker 4: started the continuation of the game behind the plate as
Speaker 4: the catcher for the Blue Jay or for the Red Sox,
Speaker 4: and then the Blue Jays had to have a pinch
Speaker 4: hitter come in and finish his at back.
Speaker 1: Walmart is recalling almost ten thousand cases of apple juice.
Speaker 1: The batch of Great Value brand apple juice was found
Speaker 1: to have potentially dangerous levels of arsenic.
Speaker 3: It could cost supposed to put that in apple juice.
Speaker 1: I thought no you're not could cause minor health issues temporarily,
Speaker 1: not likely to cause serious problems. Huh. That's something you
Speaker 1: don't hear every day. Yeah, you got arsenic in your juice,
Speaker 1: but you should be fine.
Speaker 3: It's just minor. It's just minor.
Speaker 4: And then finally, the two astronauts stranded at the International
Speaker 4: Space Station will come back aboard a SpaceX capsule in February.
Speaker 4: NASA made the official announcement yesterday. A Boeing Starliner took
Speaker 4: them up in June. Took the two astronauts in June
Speaker 4: for what was supposed to be an eight day mission.
Speaker 4: There were some helium leaks malfunctioning thrusters, so instead of
Speaker 4: an eight day mission, it goes to eight months.
Speaker 1: Dale Wilcox is a guy who lives in Alesian Heights
Speaker 1: and he enjoys goats. Recently, two of his goats were
Speaker 1: taken by authorities who claim that Dale is allowing the
Speaker 1: aggressive animals to roam untethered and near other residences and
Speaker 1: that is a breach of the law. I also did
Speaker 1: not know that if goats are seized that they are
Speaker 1: then put up for adoption by the Department of Animal Services.
Speaker 1: Now that's something I could get on board with which
Speaker 1: part the adoption of the goats. Knew that was the
Speaker 1: part they're lovely creatures.
Speaker 3: Dale says that this was goat napping.
Speaker 1: He sued the city over it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he said it was all brought on because
Speaker 4: his neighbors are unhappy that he's got goats, and they
Speaker 4: do things. They do goat things like, oh, I don't know,
Speaker 4: eat the plants, climb on cars, bleat all the time.
Speaker 1: He says that they're helpful clearing the land of unwanted brush, branches, grass,
Speaker 1: things like that frosty chunky goat the color of a
Speaker 1: softly toasted marshmallow is from northern California. And then he
Speaker 1: moved to Riverside with Frosty and Frosty's new friend, Pepe.
Speaker 1: He expanded his herd further that year, adding Beatrice and Benito.
Speaker 4: And they had a baby and they named that baby
Speaker 4: a baby goat is named a kid, right, sure.
Speaker 1: I don't know why does Dale Wilcox's story receive six
Speaker 1: pages in the La Times. I guess what I do?
Speaker 3: I guess it's.
Speaker 4: Because it's a neighborhood war. I mean, he but they
Speaker 4: didn't have to do.
Speaker 3: A whole profile.
Speaker 1: You know, that's like his love of animals began. When
Speaker 1: can we have some music please? His love of animals
Speaker 1: began when he was young. He grew up with dogs, cats,
Speaker 1: a parakeet, and a parrot that lived to sixty chose
Speaker 1: a close childhood friend had a goat, and Dale learned
Speaker 1: to milk the animal. When he was at Pacific Union
Speaker 1: College in the eighties, he liked to visit a Russian
Speaker 1: great uncle who owned goats. He would drink the goat milk.
Speaker 1: I could have done without that paragraph, right, the milk part.
Speaker 1: I don't picture young Dale milking goats and drinking the milk.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 4: Dale says he brings those goats in from Riverside to
Speaker 4: LA to work for his business, which is like a
Speaker 4: landscaping goat scaping LA. They keep down the tall grasses
Speaker 4: and weeds. They just eat it. They just eat constantly.
Speaker 4: It's a great business plan, especially here in California when
Speaker 4: you need to make sure that you keep your weeds
Speaker 4: down around your house. He keeps a goat shed in
Speaker 4: Alleesian Heights. Does that smell like some supplies for his
Speaker 4: b rescue business? And despite the fact that he has
Speaker 4: an address in Allegian Heights. He says he lives he
Speaker 4: and the goats live in Riverside, and it's not clear
Speaker 4: how much time the animals actually spend in la but
Speaker 4: a bunch of neighbors in that Allsian Park area say,
Speaker 4: oh no, no, he's always here, as are the goats.
Speaker 4: The goats have gotten loose a half a dozen times,
Speaker 4: according to neighbor Andrew pez Terco, and Pasterco's family has
Speaker 4: had to help him round up the goats using brooms.
Speaker 4: They've also attacked the neighbors. They've climbed on top of
Speaker 4: a car and a shared driveway to eat the leaves
Speaker 4: off of an overhanging tree.
Speaker 1: Goats will get after it man, they said.
Speaker 4: The most shocking incident came one night when the neighbors
Speaker 4: were about to go to sleep. Daughter and grandhok grandkids
Speaker 4: were visiting and five goats walked into their living room.
Speaker 4: That's pretty cool. I would like that for me, he
Speaker 4: called to his wife. He was frozen in the chair.
Speaker 4: Goats were in the living room, walking slowly around, smelling things.
Speaker 4: After that, I had to clean the house because they
Speaker 4: pooped everywhere.
Speaker 1: How long were they there for?
Speaker 4: In just a couple of minutes, I suppose, but interesting
Speaker 4: maybe they felt like that was the appropriate place.
Speaker 3: You can't really housebreak a goat. I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 3: you could if you tell.
Speaker 1: You to keep it outside in some sort of you know,
Speaker 1: goat are goats shed a goat. A pen. A pen
Speaker 1: for goats and for.
Speaker 3: Goats is a good one.
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