WEBVTT

1
00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:09.640
<v Speaker 1>By Billy Cunningham, the Great America and there's a new

2
00:00:09.800 --> 00:00:11.320
<v Speaker 1>aircraft carrier in town.

3
00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:14.439
<v Speaker 2>His name is Terry Francona. He played for the Reds

4
00:00:14.439 --> 00:00:16.320
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighty seven. He's been a.

5
00:00:16.359 --> 00:00:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Manager of the Year three times. He also has two

6
00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:24.120
<v Speaker 1>World Series rings, three pennants, eleven playoff appearances. He's managed

7
00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:27.760
<v Speaker 1>about three thousand, six hundred games, and for some reason

8
00:00:27.879 --> 00:00:29.960
<v Speaker 1>he wants again to come out more or less of

9
00:00:30.039 --> 00:00:34.359
<v Speaker 1>retirement and coach Baseball's I think best town for baseball

10
00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:38.000
<v Speaker 1>and its oldest team that is the Cincinnati Resident Terry Francona.

11
00:00:38.119 --> 00:00:40.679
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show, and Terry, can you

12
00:00:40.759 --> 00:00:41.880
<v Speaker 1>tell the American people?

13
00:00:41.920 --> 00:00:44.439
<v Speaker 2>First of all, why are you doing this?

14
00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:49.399
<v Speaker 3>Well? Thanks for having me. That's kind of a loaded question.

15
00:00:50.640 --> 00:00:53.280
<v Speaker 3>You know. I needed to take a step away from

16
00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:56.159
<v Speaker 3>baseball because I was just so beat up and I

17
00:00:56.200 --> 00:00:59.439
<v Speaker 3>really thought I was retiring. I didn't have the intent

18
00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:02.399
<v Speaker 3>to come back, and it was a really good year

19
00:01:02.439 --> 00:01:07.120
<v Speaker 3>away from baseball. But as I got healthy and then

20
00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:09.439
<v Speaker 3>Nick and Brad came out to Tucson to talk to me,

21
00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:13.079
<v Speaker 3>it just felt right, and I think I made a

22
00:01:13.079 --> 00:01:15.599
<v Speaker 3>really good decision. But there's a way I think you

23
00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:18.000
<v Speaker 3>do this job, and to do it right, you got

24
00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:20.200
<v Speaker 3>to have a certain amount of energy, and I didn't

25
00:01:20.280 --> 00:01:24.159
<v Speaker 3>have that before. And these guys have been good for

26
00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:28.480
<v Speaker 3>me this spring. I've felt pretty reinvigorated and I'm having

27
00:01:28.519 --> 00:01:29.200
<v Speaker 3>a good time.

28
00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:32.519
<v Speaker 1>You know, when I look at your medical history, it's unbelievable.

29
00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:36.000
<v Speaker 1>At least fifty surgeries, you have two new knees, two

30
00:01:36.040 --> 00:01:39.359
<v Speaker 1>new hips, other difficulties, all of which now is short.

31
00:01:39.719 --> 00:01:42.760
<v Speaker 1>You're like the bionic man. You're the six million dollar manager.

32
00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:46.640
<v Speaker 1>It's unbelievable that you're doing this. And I harken back

33
00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:48.640
<v Speaker 1>to other times in the Red's history. I know you've

34
00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:50.799
<v Speaker 1>managed the Phillies and the Red Sox and the Indians,

35
00:01:50.840 --> 00:01:53.879
<v Speaker 1>the Guardians and now the Reds. But in nineteen seventy

36
00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:57.359
<v Speaker 1>there was a manager named Dave Bristol and Red's management

37
00:01:57.439 --> 00:01:59.400
<v Speaker 1>management decided to get a new guy in town, and

38
00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:01.599
<v Speaker 1>that guy with Sparky Anderson and went to the World

39
00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Series that year. About twenty years later, we went through

40
00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:07.760
<v Speaker 1>the Pete Rose situation, and we all love Pete Rose

41
00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:11.159
<v Speaker 1>in this town, and you played for him in nineteen

42
00:02:11.479 --> 00:02:15.199
<v Speaker 1>eighty seven, and after that we got a new manager,

43
00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Lou Panella went to the World Series and won it.

44
00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:21.360
<v Speaker 1>So here's history repeating itself. New Manager World Series, New

45
00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:24.879
<v Speaker 1>Manager World Series Champion, New Manager World Series Champion.

46
00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:26.000
<v Speaker 2>What is the goal?

47
00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:28.280
<v Speaker 1>If somebody would tap you on the shoulder, Terry frank

48
00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Cone and say what is the goal for the twenty

49
00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:32.360
<v Speaker 1>twenty five Reds, what would Terry say?

50
00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:36.400
<v Speaker 3>I think it's always the same is show up every

51
00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:39.680
<v Speaker 3>day ready to compete your ass off. That's how I

52
00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:41.400
<v Speaker 3>always feel, because you don't know what's going to happen

53
00:02:41.840 --> 00:02:44.439
<v Speaker 3>with guys going down. But if we show up and

54
00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:46.879
<v Speaker 3>we play the game the way you're supposed to, I

55
00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:48.919
<v Speaker 3>always feel like we'll end up what we're supposed to.

56
00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:52.879
<v Speaker 3>And we obviously have high expectations we're supposed to, but

57
00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:55.159
<v Speaker 3>I don't ever put the card to ahead of the horse.

58
00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:57.400
<v Speaker 3>I just try to, you know, we stay in a moment,

59
00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:00.439
<v Speaker 3>play as good as we can today, and then show

60
00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:02.199
<v Speaker 3>up tomorrow and see what we can play a little better.

61
00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:04.599
<v Speaker 1>Are you an analytics kind of a guy? At one

62
00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:08.280
<v Speaker 1>point I couldn't spell analytics. And right now, if the

63
00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Reds are pitching and there's a batter up and there's

64
00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:12.680
<v Speaker 1>two to one, if it counts two and one he

65
00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:15.919
<v Speaker 1>hits two ten against the curveball, three ten against the fastball,

66
00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:19.080
<v Speaker 1>and you got the nine quadrants of a home play.

67
00:03:19.120 --> 00:03:21.919
<v Speaker 1>Are you, as Terry Francona analytics or do you do

68
00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:23.360
<v Speaker 1>by the seat of your pants.

69
00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:25.319
<v Speaker 3>I don't do it by the seat of my pants.

70
00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:28.919
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's fair to anybody. But the way

71
00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:31.280
<v Speaker 3>I like to say it is, I feel an obligation

72
00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:34.520
<v Speaker 3>to know stuff because I don't want to guess. But

73
00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:38.120
<v Speaker 3>you're dealing with people and you never can forget that.

74
00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:40.520
<v Speaker 3>And I feel like I, you know, I've been in

75
00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:42.759
<v Speaker 3>the game, I think forty six years. I feel like

76
00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:46.960
<v Speaker 3>I know what I'm watching. And again, it helps to

77
00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:49.960
<v Speaker 3>get information. I think you can get bogged down with

78
00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:52.719
<v Speaker 3>information if you lay yourself as.

79
00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:58.039
<v Speaker 1>Far as one thing, Michael Jordan. You managed Michael Jordan,

80
00:03:58.080 --> 00:04:01.360
<v Speaker 1>the greatest of all time in basketball in nineteen ninety

81
00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:04.120
<v Speaker 1>four with the Birmingham Barons, and then you were managed

82
00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:07.840
<v Speaker 1>by Pete Rose. And when I think about basketball, I

83
00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:10.759
<v Speaker 1>think about the passion, the perseverance of Michael Jordan. Then

84
00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:13.439
<v Speaker 1>I think about Pete Rose, I beloved character. Is there

85
00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:17.560
<v Speaker 1>some connection in your mind between Michael Jordan and Pete Rose?

86
00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:19.160
<v Speaker 2>How they're conducted themselves.

87
00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:22.399
<v Speaker 3>I've told a lot of people that the very similar

88
00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:25.879
<v Speaker 3>personalities where if you tell them no, they're going to

89
00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:27.600
<v Speaker 3>find the They're going to find a way to make

90
00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:30.360
<v Speaker 3>the answer be yes. You know, they're just so driven.

91
00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:33.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean, most people that get to this level are driven.

92
00:04:33.399 --> 00:04:36.040
<v Speaker 3>But then there's a few and you just named two

93
00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:39.079
<v Speaker 3>of them that take it to the anth degree and

94
00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:40.759
<v Speaker 3>that is Michael and Pete both.

95
00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, how did you handle Michael Jordan?

96
00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Because I saw some of the thirty by thirty stuff

97
00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:50.800
<v Speaker 1>and you're in it. You if he stuck with baseball,

98
00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:53.360
<v Speaker 1>would he have made to the major leagues? Of course,

99
00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:55.600
<v Speaker 1>the owner of the White Sox wanted him to go

100
00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:58.399
<v Speaker 1>and playing Comiskey Park. Can you imagine Michael Jordan in

101
00:04:58.399 --> 00:04:59.959
<v Speaker 1>a White Sox uniform and chmisky?

102
00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:03.319
<v Speaker 2>What was he? A major league baseball talent? Michael Jordan.

103
00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:06.759
<v Speaker 3>What I've told people is it wasn't fair to judge

104
00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:09.720
<v Speaker 3>until he got about a thousand at bats. But he

105
00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:12.279
<v Speaker 3>could do some things. Now, I mean he stole thirty bases,

106
00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:15.639
<v Speaker 3>you know, he he could do some things that a

107
00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:17.480
<v Speaker 3>lot of prospects, you know, you need to do. He

108
00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:20.600
<v Speaker 3>just hadn't played in so long. But I also, like

109
00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:23.040
<v Speaker 3>I said, I found out if you told him no,

110
00:05:23.800 --> 00:05:25.920
<v Speaker 3>he'd find a way to make the answer be yes.

111
00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:27.879
<v Speaker 3>So do I think he'd have found his way to

112
00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:30.040
<v Speaker 3>major leagues? Yeah? I do. What do you have been

113
00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:32.480
<v Speaker 3>an everyday player? I don't know he had more developing

114
00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:36.959
<v Speaker 3>to do, but I knew he was so respectful to

115
00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:39.439
<v Speaker 3>the game of baseball. He made it really easy to

116
00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:42.480
<v Speaker 3>be patient with him, and that was what I appreciated.

117
00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:44.839
<v Speaker 1>As far as your year with the Reds in nineteen

118
00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:47.079
<v Speaker 1>eighty seven, your manager was Pete Rose.

119
00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:49.800
<v Speaker 2>What did you learn about baseball from Pete Rose?

120
00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, I played with Pete and eighty four in Montreal,

121
00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:55.439
<v Speaker 3>and I tell a lot of people I've probably learned

122
00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:57.800
<v Speaker 3>more playing cards with Pete about baseball than I did

123
00:05:57.879 --> 00:05:59.959
<v Speaker 3>from a lot of other people. He just, you know,

124
00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:02.600
<v Speaker 3>the game was in slow motion for him. And I

125
00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:05.120
<v Speaker 3>know Pete brought me over here in eighty seven and

126
00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:07.319
<v Speaker 3>I felt like I really let him down because I

127
00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:10.240
<v Speaker 3>just I just didn't hit. I mean, I got some

128
00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:13.480
<v Speaker 3>hits opening day and then it just went south, and

129
00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:16.120
<v Speaker 3>I felt like I let him down and that killed me.

130
00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:18.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh, you bat it two twenty seven for the Reds.

131
00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:21.800
<v Speaker 1>You were twenty eight years old, pretty good team, and

132
00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:25.519
<v Speaker 1>I think largely that same team three years later with

133
00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Lou Penella won. What was the difference between the eighty

134
00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:32.399
<v Speaker 1>seven eighty eighty nine Reds with Pete Rose that didn't

135
00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:35.160
<v Speaker 1>win and then a new a breath of fresh air arrived.

136
00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:38.240
<v Speaker 1>I saw this interview that Barry Larkin conducted about you,

137
00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:41.680
<v Speaker 1>the great number eleven Hall of Famer. You're going to

138
00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:43.439
<v Speaker 1>be a Hall of Famer. I pray to God Lou

139
00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Panella becomes a Hall of Famer. But Barry Larkin said,

140
00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:50.920
<v Speaker 1>after the Pete Rose situation in August September of eighty

141
00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:54.240
<v Speaker 1>nine was resolved and spring training started, he said, there

142
00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:56.480
<v Speaker 1>was a breath of fresh air that we needed that

143
00:06:56.560 --> 00:06:59.560
<v Speaker 1>we thought we were better than our record indicated. In fact,

144
00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:01.399
<v Speaker 1>in eighty one the Reds had a losing record. The

145
00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:04.079
<v Speaker 1>next year they went to the World Series. And so

146
00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:06.240
<v Speaker 1>how do you relate to the Reds team and Reds

147
00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:08.879
<v Speaker 1>fans now saying this is a team that can win,

148
00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:11.879
<v Speaker 1>it should win. It hasn't won. We can't go why

149
00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:13.959
<v Speaker 1>it hasn't won in the past, but why will it

150
00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:16.240
<v Speaker 1>win this year? And are you the breath of fresh air,

151
00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:19.079
<v Speaker 1>the Reds and the baseball's oldest franchise, knees. I'm so

152
00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:21.079
<v Speaker 1>excited about this, I can't stand it. Are you the

153
00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:22.000
<v Speaker 1>breath of fresh air?

154
00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:25.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I've ever been called that. You know,

155
00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:29.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm not here to try to piss anybody off. I

156
00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:31.160
<v Speaker 3>think we all like to feel like we can make

157
00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:33.920
<v Speaker 3>a difference, and we're certainly going to try. But I

158
00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:36.360
<v Speaker 3>don't think I need to go make any proclamations. Like

159
00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:38.639
<v Speaker 3>I said, I want us to show up and play

160
00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:42.439
<v Speaker 3>our rear ends off every day, and if we do that,

161
00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:46.120
<v Speaker 3>I always feel like we're going to figure it out.

162
00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:48.759
<v Speaker 3>That's how I've always felt and I will continue to

163
00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:50.319
<v Speaker 3>do that. And this is a good group. This is

164
00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:52.519
<v Speaker 3>a fun group, and it's a group that's going to

165
00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:55.079
<v Speaker 3>get better. We're not the finished product. That doesn't mean

166
00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:57.639
<v Speaker 3>we can't win, but I think it means we'll get better.

167
00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:01.279
<v Speaker 1>Let's say it's about seven pm on opening Day and

168
00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:04.600
<v Speaker 1>the Reds are winning two to one. You look down

169
00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:06.560
<v Speaker 1>to the look out to the bullpen. Used to be

170
00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:08.279
<v Speaker 1>down to the bullman. You look out to the bullpen,

171
00:08:08.759 --> 00:08:11.759
<v Speaker 1>and you got Rogers, you got Barlow. You don't have

172
00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Alexis Das. Who does Terry Francona come in to nail

173
00:08:17.079 --> 00:08:19.839
<v Speaker 1>down to win two to one victory and the ninth

174
00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:21.920
<v Speaker 1>ending about seven o'clock on opening day, who do you

175
00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:22.360
<v Speaker 1>bring in?

176
00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:26.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, I hope we're in that situation. It's a lot

177
00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:27.839
<v Speaker 3>of it's going to depend on how we get there.

178
00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:29.240
<v Speaker 3>You know, we're gonna have to mix the match a

179
00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:31.639
<v Speaker 3>little bit. And I've already talked to the bullpen guys

180
00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:34.879
<v Speaker 3>and I've talked a little bit more. But you know,

181
00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:39.600
<v Speaker 3>we'll see again. It depends on how long our starter goes,

182
00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:43.039
<v Speaker 3>how many guys who went through, But we'll figure it out.

183
00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:45.960
<v Speaker 3>And I guarantee you somebody to be out there. And

184
00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:48.679
<v Speaker 3>like I said, though, it just depends who we use.

185
00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:50.120
<v Speaker 3>Leading up to that, how.

186
00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Would you say, Ladella Cruz, you're catching him in a

187
00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:54.039
<v Speaker 1>second full year.

188
00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:55.639
<v Speaker 2>We're just so excited about him.

189
00:08:55.679 --> 00:08:58.440
<v Speaker 1>He could become the face of baseball and you now

190
00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:01.759
<v Speaker 1>spent about twenty five thirty games. So with the Elladella Cruz,

191
00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:04.600
<v Speaker 1>what kind of character is he and what does he

192
00:09:04.639 --> 00:09:06.519
<v Speaker 1>bring to the table for the Reds in twenty.

193
00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:09.120
<v Speaker 3>Twenty five, Well, it brings everything to the table. I

194
00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:11.320
<v Speaker 3>think that's why everybody you know likes him so much.

195
00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:13.320
<v Speaker 3>Everybody wants to get a piece ofthing. And he's a

196
00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:15.440
<v Speaker 3>great kid to boot. He plays the game right, he

197
00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:18.440
<v Speaker 3>plays with passion, and he's only going to get better

198
00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:21.879
<v Speaker 3>because he wants to. And you know that we're getting

199
00:09:21.919 --> 00:09:23.440
<v Speaker 3>him in it. We're getting a lot of our guys

200
00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:25.440
<v Speaker 3>at a good time where they've got a year or

201
00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:28.200
<v Speaker 3>two under their belt. You know, they start to understand

202
00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:31.000
<v Speaker 3>they don't just belong, but maybe they can thrive and

203
00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:33.840
<v Speaker 3>compete because there's a difference, and I hope we'll get

204
00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:34.559
<v Speaker 3>them at that time.

205
00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:36.960
<v Speaker 1>In fact, you've been in baseball. I mean, your dad

206
00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:39.960
<v Speaker 1>was in baseball fifteen years. You grew up in major

207
00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:42.679
<v Speaker 1>league locker rooms. You've been there. You talk about in

208
00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:45.360
<v Speaker 1>baseball forty some years. You've probably been in baseball sixty

209
00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:48.320
<v Speaker 1>some years. If you take your time in various locker

210
00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:51.360
<v Speaker 1>rooms and from that, give me the one or two

211
00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:55.000
<v Speaker 1>big changes you've seen in baseball just inside the locker

212
00:09:55.080 --> 00:09:56.759
<v Speaker 1>room in the past thirty or forty years. Used to

213
00:09:56.799 --> 00:09:59.480
<v Speaker 1>be you had a player and you knew they had him.

214
00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:01.519
<v Speaker 1>But now little bit of romance has to go on.

215
00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:03.879
<v Speaker 1>You have to make sure the players want to stay in.

216
00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:06.759
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati's a fabulous place to play because you're gonna you're

217
00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:08.919
<v Speaker 1>gonna learn an opening day how important this is. But

218
00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:11.440
<v Speaker 1>how's baseball changed the last thirty or forty years?

219
00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:15.440
<v Speaker 3>Uh? In your mind, well, there's been a lot of changes.

220
00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:17.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean one of the things, like you said in

221
00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:20.480
<v Speaker 3>the locker room is we used to sit after games

222
00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:22.519
<v Speaker 3>and you know, we played cards and drink beer, and

223
00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:25.360
<v Speaker 3>now you can't do that. You know, life times have changed,

224
00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:27.960
<v Speaker 3>and I get it, but it takes some of the

225
00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:31.399
<v Speaker 3>some of the fun away. The game, though, is still baseball,

226
00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:34.039
<v Speaker 3>and I firmly believe, regardless of how much money you

227
00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:37.039
<v Speaker 3>guys are making or free agency, if you can get

228
00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:39.360
<v Speaker 3>your players to play baseball, you got a chance. And

229
00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:40.399
<v Speaker 3>that's what we're going to try to do.

230
00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Terry Farrek Kona. Do you feel like you're born again?

231
00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:46.519
<v Speaker 1>Because the article is written about you, and uh, it

232
00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:49.120
<v Speaker 1>feels like after you went through your health difficulties now

233
00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:51.559
<v Speaker 1>came out the other side. And the involvement Marty Brownman

234
00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:53.840
<v Speaker 1>was key to this. Do you feel like You're born again?

235
00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:57.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I'd go that far. I am excited,

236
00:10:58.600 --> 00:10:59.919
<v Speaker 3>you know, I gonna have to keep an eye on

237
00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:02.120
<v Speaker 3>myself because I'm not a young pupp and you know,

238
00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:05.320
<v Speaker 3>I've had a lot going on, but I get up

239
00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:06.960
<v Speaker 3>and swim every day because I want to be a

240
00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:09.399
<v Speaker 3>good manager. I want to have, you know, energy for

241
00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:12.279
<v Speaker 3>these guys, and I try to keep my button on

242
00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:15.120
<v Speaker 3>all day and then when I go home, I just collapse.

243
00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, Terry, you're the best.

244
00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I think you walk in the shoes of Sparky Anderson

245
00:11:21.600 --> 00:11:24.279
<v Speaker 1>and Louke Panela in the sense that you're a lifer

246
00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:26.919
<v Speaker 1>in baseball and you've come here and we're just honored

247
00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:29.320
<v Speaker 1>to have you in Cincinnati after the year off. When

248
00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:31.799
<v Speaker 1>this thing when Marty the story about Marty Brenneman just

249
00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:34.399
<v Speaker 1>briefly tell me that Marty brennan connection that you had

250
00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:35.399
<v Speaker 1>to get this job.

251
00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:38.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean when I was here as a player,

252
00:11:38.519 --> 00:11:42.360
<v Speaker 3>Marty and Nuxy, Joey, they were so good to be

253
00:11:42.399 --> 00:11:44.919
<v Speaker 3>and some people in this game he just remain friends with,

254
00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:48.759
<v Speaker 3>and me and Marty have have been friends ever since.

255
00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:52.279
<v Speaker 3>And he reached out to me earlier this year, and

256
00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:54.759
<v Speaker 3>next thing, you know, Nick and Brad are find out

257
00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:58.000
<v Speaker 3>the Tucson and like I said, it just felt right.

258
00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:01.559
<v Speaker 3>And I mean I know what kind of baseball town

259
00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:04.320
<v Speaker 3>this can be. You know, I saw it firsthand and

260
00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:08.000
<v Speaker 3>we got it. We got we got some baseball to play.

261
00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:10.799
<v Speaker 3>But if we do, these people will be excited.

262
00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Lastly, would you like to enter the Hall of Fame

263
00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:15.159
<v Speaker 1>in a few years with Pete Rose?

264
00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:16.480
<v Speaker 2>In memory of Pete?

265
00:12:17.679 --> 00:12:21.559
<v Speaker 3>I'll never I can talk about Pete. I'll never talk

266
00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:25.000
<v Speaker 3>about myself in that vein. I don't think that's healthy

267
00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:28.440
<v Speaker 3>for any for a manager. With a manager, it's got

268
00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.399
<v Speaker 3>to be about the players. It can never be about yourself.

269
00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:34.919
<v Speaker 3>And when it becomes about you, I get really uncomfortable.

270
00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:37.559
<v Speaker 1>May fourteenth is Pete Rose Day. Whether there'll be a

271
00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:40.320
<v Speaker 1>tear in your eye for Pete, I don't know.

272
00:12:40.360 --> 00:12:42.840
<v Speaker 3>If I'll cry, I'll be touched. I mean I love

273
00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:45.360
<v Speaker 3>the guy. Like I said, I played with him and

274
00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:48.399
<v Speaker 3>for him, and I loved him to death. And I

275
00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:50.360
<v Speaker 3>will be one of the proudest people out there. I

276
00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:50.960
<v Speaker 3>guarantee it.

277
00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:53.799
<v Speaker 1>Terry frank ConA, may you live long and prosper when

278
00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:55.600
<v Speaker 1>about a hundred games and take the Reds of the

279
00:12:55.639 --> 00:12:58.799
<v Speaker 1>World Series where they belong. Between nineteen seventy five and

280
00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:01.840
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety, the Reds were champions in the World Series

281
00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:04.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty percent of the time, think of twenty percent of

282
00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:07.039
<v Speaker 1>the time. Between nineteen seventy five and nineteen ninety the

283
00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Reds were the World Series champion. Since then, the last

284
00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:12.159
<v Speaker 1>thirty five years have been more difficult. And I think

285
00:13:12.200 --> 00:13:14.840
<v Speaker 1>you're the Moses that may lead us into the Promised Land.

286
00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:17.679
<v Speaker 1>And Terry Francona, once again, thank you for coming on

287
00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:18.759
<v Speaker 1>the Bill Cunningham Show.

288
00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:19.399
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Terry.

289
00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:20.919
<v Speaker 3>All right, Bill and Joy Man.

290
00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Thanks God bless America. Let's continue with more. That's Terry

291
00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Francona Unplugged on News Radio seven hundred WLW