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<v Speaker 1>Uh. Oh, guess what day it is?

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what day it is? Huh anybody?

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<v Speaker 3>It's hump Day. Yes, it is hump Day. Dick Abriel

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<v Speaker 3>with you on a Wednesday, and it puts us one

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<v Speaker 3>step closer, one giant stride closer to college football four

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<v Speaker 3>days away, less than four days away. As you hear this,

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of minutes after six o'clock. So it's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to be long now before the wild kids suit

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<v Speaker 3>up and take on those Southern Miss Golden Eagles. People

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<v Speaker 3>cannot wait. And I've talked a little bit over the

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<v Speaker 3>last couple of weeks about whether there is the same

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<v Speaker 3>the representative amount of excitement with their quotes when it

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<v Speaker 3>comes to Kentucky football that we've seen in the past.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that I have felt it as much,

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<v Speaker 3>but you all have come through with your wallets, your

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<v Speaker 3>check books, your your Vimeo accounts, whatever. Because season tickets

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<v Speaker 3>are sold out. Man, I remember years when they they

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<v Speaker 3>were lucky to get twenty five thousand sold. Now forty thousand,

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<v Speaker 3>eight hundred season ticket packages have been sold. That's up

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<v Speaker 3>six hundred from last year, new record for the Mark

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<v Speaker 3>Stoops era going back to twenty thirteen. Also going back

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<v Speaker 3>through the current configuration of Kroger Field, which was renovated

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<v Speaker 3>first in twenty fifteen. And by the way, in case

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<v Speaker 3>you're wondering about the student's sixty five hundred student season

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<v Speaker 3>passes also sold out. That's all of them. So students

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<v Speaker 3>sellout regular ticket buyers they buy them all. So right now,

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<v Speaker 3>apparently there is excitement for Kentucky football, possibly beyond what

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<v Speaker 3>I thought. I guess maybe when I hear people talk

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<v Speaker 3>about it, they're still a little bit cautious, the old

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<v Speaker 3>cliche cautiously optimistic. I think that holds true simply because

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<v Speaker 3>Kentucky failed last year to win a couple of games

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<v Speaker 3>it should have won. And now you might have a

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<v Speaker 3>team it's even better, but you've got a much tougher schedule.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say this, though, for a team that has

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<v Speaker 3>not made anybody's preseason top twenty five, Kentucky finally made

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<v Speaker 3>not just a top twenty five, but a top five.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's what I'm talking about. The Action Sports Network Brett

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<v Speaker 3>McMurphy used to write for ESPN dot com, tweeting this

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<v Speaker 3>morning that they have put together both an overrated Top

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five and an underrated Top twenty five based on

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<v Speaker 3>preseason and final polls, and this dates back to twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, I'm gonna give you a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>suspense here because the most overrated in the last ten years,

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<v Speaker 3>most overrated Division one team based on preseason rankings, happens

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<v Speaker 3>to be on Kentucky's schedule this year. Auburn. Auburn has

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<v Speaker 3>performed poorly when it comes to preseason rankings versus final polls.

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<v Speaker 3>Number two Southern col you better believe it, Number three, Wisconsin,

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<v Speaker 3>number four, Texas A and m. That's got to go

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<v Speaker 3>back to a couple of years ago and everybody picked

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<v Speaker 3>him and they flopped LSU number five overrated. The rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the top ten Texas, Oregon, Oklahoma, Miami, and Florida State. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>Georgia's fourteenth on the overrated in the last ten years.

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<v Speaker 3>So that tells you just how overrated Georgia was prior

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<v Speaker 3>to the last two or three years when the Bulldogs

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<v Speaker 3>became one of the powerhouses. In case you're wondering, South

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<v Speaker 3>Carolina sixteenth on that list, Alabama seventeenth on the overrated list. Michigan,

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<v Speaker 3>which won the national title last year, ranked twenty fifth. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>what is the most underrated team according to the Action

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<v Speaker 3>Network math based on preseason rankings versus postseason rankings. May

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<v Speaker 3>surprise you, Northwestern, Yeah, those Wildcats ranked number one underrated,

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<v Speaker 3>Cincinnati second, TCU is third, Missouri fourth at that huge

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<v Speaker 3>year last year, and Kentucky is number five. You could

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<v Speaker 3>see that because for the longest time Kentucky wasn't in

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<v Speaker 3>anybody's top twenty five, but would end up, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>eighteenth or twenty second or something like that. Last couple

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<v Speaker 3>of years not so much, but Kentucky ranked fifth among

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<v Speaker 3>Insea Division one teams underrated based on preseason rankings and

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<v Speaker 3>postseason polls. After them, after the Wildcats, Central Florida, then

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<v Speaker 3>four teams tied for seven, Arizona, Houston, Louisiana and oklahom

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<v Speaker 3>So I really found that fascinating that somebody, first of all,

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<v Speaker 3>took the time to do the math and the Wildcats

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<v Speaker 3>fared well in this particular top twenty five. How will

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<v Speaker 3>Kentucky do against Southern miss Well, we're all going to

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<v Speaker 3>find out together, but we're going to see bush Hamden's offense.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll tell you a guy I expect to have

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<v Speaker 3>a really good year is Jimury Macklin. You know, we

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<v Speaker 3>talked so much about Barrion Brown, we talked so much

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<v Speaker 3>about Dante Kean a good reason. But remember Jamurry Macklin

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<v Speaker 3>is coming off two big seasons as a receiver at

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't do much there, didn't get to play much, no

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<v Speaker 3>stats to speak of, but he played under Bush Hamden

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<v Speaker 3>at Missouri. That means with everybody learning this new offense,

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<v Speaker 3>Macklin had a bit of a leg up. He's the

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<v Speaker 3>new guy, but he was able to help the veterans.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody's on the fresh slate man, and I kind of

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<v Speaker 4>came from this type of offense. I've, you know, played with

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<v Speaker 4>Bush my first year of the Malus, so everything that

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<v Speaker 4>I know he expects, like I already know what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm just trying to help those guys out. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know we all started fresho.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Macklin, you got Fred Ferrier along with Key and

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<v Speaker 3>Barry and Brown. Of course, Harley Gilmore's out for most

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<v Speaker 3>of the season with that broken collar bone. But still

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of talent in that wide receiver room

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<v Speaker 3>and Macklin's a big part of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Dogs Man, we got a bunch of dogs in that room.

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<v Speaker 4>We got a lot of different players. Man, We've got

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<v Speaker 4>a speed guy, barry On. We got a taller guy, Danny.

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<v Speaker 4>You got like a more versatile, shorter guy in me.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got a bunch of other guys that can step

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<v Speaker 4>up as well. Ab Harley Fred like just we all

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<v Speaker 4>just push each other every day to be better. And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm excited and.

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<v Speaker 3>By all accounts, Brock Vandergriffkin get them the football and

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to be doing it with an uptempo style,

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<v Speaker 3>thanks in large part to Bush ham Dan and his

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<v Speaker 3>new offense. So it's going to be fun on Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a catch stick on So and Miss Coming up

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<v Speaker 3>in a few minutes, we're going to talk more about

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<v Speaker 3>the Kentucky volleyball team. Wildcats lost last night over in

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<v Speaker 3>Louisville towo Nebraska, three to one. Kentucky took a fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>to ten leave fifteen to eleven in the first set

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<v Speaker 3>and was having its way with Nebraska, but out of

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<v Speaker 3>the media timeout, Nebraska really flexed and took the first set.

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<v Speaker 3>So I thought, oh, here we go. Because Nebraska really big,

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<v Speaker 3>really talented, but Kentucky fell down eight to three in

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<v Speaker 3>the second set and came back to win it, which

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<v Speaker 3>was really impressive to me. And then Nebraska really found

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<v Speaker 3>a rhythm and beat Kentucky the next two sets. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>for the match, Nebraska hit two fifty eight Kentucky hit

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<v Speaker 3>just one thirty nine. Again, think of it as batting

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<v Speaker 3>average Wildcats with fifty one kills to forty seven for Nebraska,

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<v Speaker 3>but Kentucky thirty errors to only sixteen Nebraska and sixteen

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<v Speaker 3>service errors for the Wildcats. So good learning experience. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>hear from Kentucky's Craig Skinner and one of the Wildcats

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<v Speaker 3>coming up in our next segment. But not a bad

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<v Speaker 3>showing for Kentucky and a great showing for the AVCA event.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of interesting stories over in the NFL. We've

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<v Speaker 3>heard so much about the technology they're going to use

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<v Speaker 3>to measure first downs and everyone's so excited to do

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<v Speaker 3>it with the chain Gangs. Apparently, during the preseason games,

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<v Speaker 3>mixed results mean the NFL will shelve the automated first

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<v Speaker 3>down system for the upcoming season. They're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>use it. It's a multi gazillion dollar prospect, but apparently

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<v Speaker 3>it's way too primitive right now to trust it in

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<v Speaker 3>regular season games, they say that it took way too

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<v Speaker 3>long to operate, slowed the game down even more, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's something that is disappointing because so many people were

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<v Speaker 3>looking forward to doing a way for the Chain Gang,

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<v Speaker 3>but the technology just not there yet. Speaking of last night,

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<v Speaker 3>in the volleyball match, they did not have line judges.

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<v Speaker 3>They used cameras and computers and they had two or

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<v Speaker 3>three challenges. They took about the same amount of time,

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<v Speaker 3>but they didn't have as many challenges, So I think

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<v Speaker 3>that was the bright spot. If you listen to the

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<v Speaker 3>Kelsey Brothers podcasts and they also have it on video,

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<v Speaker 3>you may really enjoy it, and you may enjoy the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that they are trying to cut a deal. I

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<v Speaker 3>think they've done it with Amazon, and I saw this

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<v Speaker 3>reported on Awful Announcings website. The headline says the deal

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<v Speaker 3>is worth one hundred million dollars. I dove into the

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<v Speaker 3>story and I read the story four times, and nowhere

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<v Speaker 3>in the story does it say one hundred million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's in there somewhere. He's out there somewhere. Show's

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<v Speaker 3>been on hiatus since July third. But Jason Kelsey has

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<v Speaker 3>become popular with his commercials, and of course Travis still

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<v Speaker 3>playing at a high level and dating a fairly high

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<v Speaker 3>profile singer. So they are the hottest thing in podcast

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<v Speaker 3>right now. And if indeed they have signed that check,

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<v Speaker 3>they got paid, all right. Coming up next, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 3>more Kentucky volleyball. Bottom of the hour, Tom Leach. Coming

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<v Speaker 3>up in hour number two, Sean Woods, the Unforgettable Guard

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<v Speaker 3>will join us as well as West End Bureau chief

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<v Speaker 3>Gary Moore. That's our Wednesday lineup and it's all ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>You're on a Big Blue Insider six point thirty waap.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider. Dick Gabrielle with

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<v Speaker 3>you coming up in just a few minuteses the voice

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<v Speaker 3>of the Wildcats, Tom Leech. He'll call the action when

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<v Speaker 3>Kentucky opens up with Southern Miss on Saturday. But as

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a couple of sports already in action so

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<v Speaker 3>far on the UK campus and all over the country,

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<v Speaker 3>really men's and women's soccer and volleyball, which opened its season,

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<v Speaker 3>the regular season last night with that loss. As we

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<v Speaker 3>said to Nebraska, it was a great atmosphere. It was

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<v Speaker 3>the American Volleyball Coaches Association Classic, a double header matching

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<v Speaker 3>two of the locals, Kentucky and Louisville against Nebraska and Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you don't know women's volleyball, and you should

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<v Speaker 3>by now living in Lexington, if you follow UK at all,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, those are two of the absolute powerhouse

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<v Speaker 3>programs in all of women's volleyball. And it was a

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<v Speaker 3>great night, both Kentucky and Louisville losing, but there was

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<v Speaker 3>a really great exhibition although the games counted for real,

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<v Speaker 3>but just great examples I guess I should say of

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<v Speaker 3>athleticism and great plays. If you watch Kentucky win the

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<v Speaker 3>national title and you haven't watched much volleyball before or since,

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<v Speaker 3>similar action. I mean, these kids are just throwing themselves

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<v Speaker 3>on the floor, making incredible plays. And it was well

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<v Speaker 3>worth staying up late last night if you were watching

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<v Speaker 3>U of L or if you were at that match,

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<v Speaker 3>because that one didn't start till about nine o'clock. And

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<v Speaker 3>there were some grumbling I heard from some media people

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<v Speaker 3>believe it or not, like I don't know why they're

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<v Speaker 3>starting this game so late. Well, our friends on TV,

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<v Speaker 3>this thing was on ESPN two. That's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything's on ESPN now, we say, but for women's volleyball

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<v Speaker 3>in a regular season situation like this to play and

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<v Speaker 3>of course, what do you have going on otherwise baseball? Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>no disrespect to baseball, but college football isn't playing on

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<v Speaker 3>a Tuesday night. The NFL isn't playing on a Tuesday night.

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<v Speaker 3>So for women's volleyball to grab Tuesday night and work

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<v Speaker 3>this out with ESPN two, that was huge. And then

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<v Speaker 3>to put these high profile programs on the air equally huge.

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<v Speaker 3>And for Kentucky to be a part of it, for

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<v Speaker 3>UL to be a part part of it that UK

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<v Speaker 3>used to regularly trounce u of L. Now u of

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<v Speaker 3>things are really really soaring right now for women's volleyball.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm telling you, I know I sound like a show,

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<v Speaker 3>like women's basketball, that's great. This is a different kind

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<v Speaker 3>match Kentucky against preferably a good team, so it's you know, contentious.

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<v Speaker 3>But even if it's Kentucky, you know, sweeping somebody in

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<v Speaker 3>course coming up on Friday night, it's the Wildcats and

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<v Speaker 3>Northern Kentucky. But Kentucky's going to be all over ESPN

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<v Speaker 3>this year, all over the SEC new worked this year,

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<v Speaker 3>because that's how good it is. One of the interesting

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<v Speaker 3>side notes to this match last night Kentucky and Nebraska

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<v Speaker 3>was Craig Skinner, you may know, was an assistant in Nebraska.

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<v Speaker 3>I talked about this last night. That's where Mitch Barnard

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<v Speaker 3>Cook said he hired Craig twice at Wisconsin and again

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<v Speaker 3>but so it was a real gathering of athletes and

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<v Speaker 3>of the first things Cook talked about was just how

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<v Speaker 3>to see the kind of atmosphere at the Young Center.

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<v Speaker 5>Great atmosphe Kentucky does some really nice things. Brooklyn and

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<v Speaker 5>that cet are really good players. It took us a

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<v Speaker 5>we started finally offensively. Games three and four started clicking.

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<v Speaker 5>We got our middles going, and I mean there's some

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<v Speaker 3>He's referring to Brooklyn Delay, who was a tremendous freshman

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<v Speaker 3>last year and got off to a good start this season.

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<v Speaker 3>With nineteen kills last night led Kentucky, although she had

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<v Speaker 3>eight errors, so she only hit one ninety think of

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<v Speaker 3>it as batting average. It was great when it came

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<v Speaker 3>to the kills, but way too many errors. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>Kentucky had more kills than Nebraska, just had way too

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<v Speaker 3>many errors. Had sixteen service errors. You talked about the center,

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<v Speaker 3>that's Emma Gron, probably the best setter in the country.

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<v Speaker 3>She had forty two assists last night. It was a

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<v Speaker 3>learning experience, obviously for the Wildcats, and that's how Craig

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<v Speaker 6>We've always scheduled tough. It wasn't in the initial plan

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<v Speaker 6>Hear showcase, but when Jamie offered, I was like, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, our players love these situations, and you know

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<v Speaker 6>continued learning through November.

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<v Speaker 3>So his great, great mass for us in that regard.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the bright spots for Kentucky was the return

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<v Speaker 3>of Brooke Boltimo, but she didn't exactly have a great match.

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<v Speaker 3>She had what four kills and five errors, so she

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<v Speaker 3>hit in the negatives, but she played. That's the big thing.

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<v Speaker 3>She was supposed to be a contributor last year, coming

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<v Speaker 3>out of Cincinnati, one of the best players in Ohio,

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<v Speaker 3>but she injured her ankle severely in the preseason. I

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<v Speaker 3>had to red shirt last year. But healthy and able

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<v Speaker 3>to contribute this season and just happy to be back.

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<v Speaker 7>It's kind of like gripping a band aid off. It

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<v Speaker 7>felt like, you know, just getting out there for the

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<v Speaker 7>first time, you know, training for so long in practice

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<v Speaker 7>and then coming out here and applying that they learned

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<v Speaker 7>a lot from this MAC. We have a great opportunity

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<v Speaker 7>apply what we learned and continue to carry with that.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, I just I think I'm learning to trust

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<v Speaker 3>Brook also congratulated the AVCA for putting on such an

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<v Speaker 3>event and also said she loved the atmosphere. There were

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<v Speaker 3>so many kids in that arena, a lot of little

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<v Speaker 3>girls as you might expect, but just that's what I

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<v Speaker 3>love seeing. I love seeing the kids come to these events.

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<v Speaker 3>And back to John Cooked and Nebraska coach, he took

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<v Speaker 3>notice of the fact that there were a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>I'm glad those kids are out there because i know

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<v Speaker 5>it's Tuesday night and school's in so so but you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the AVCA is in Jamie's doing a great job of

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<v Speaker 5>trying to build events to continue to build on the

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<v Speaker 5>momentum that I think really started with the Stadium match

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<v Speaker 5>last year and then the Final four and it's and

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<v Speaker 5>then in the Big Ten Conference I mean almost every

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<v Speaker 5>arena is selling out and it's hard to get tickets.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I've read we have seven thousand people on

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<v Speaker 5>the waiting list. So it's happening. And volleyball is a

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<v Speaker 5>great sport and there's a lot of great players that

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<v Speaker 5>are great role models for these kids as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And you got to think some of those kids will

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<v Speaker 3>be back in that building at the end of the

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<v Speaker 3>season coming up in December at the Final Four. That

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<v Speaker 3>was one of the great things about this event. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a preview to what we'll see in terms of the

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<v Speaker 3>facility and the crowds. The crowds will be much bigger

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<v Speaker 3>of course for the Final Four in December in Louisville.

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<v Speaker 3>So what an advantage of if UK or U of

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<v Speaker 3>l are both can make it at the Final Four

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<v Speaker 3>at the Young Center when it comes to women's volleyball.

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<v Speaker 3>One other personal note, got a chance to sit with

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<v Speaker 3>and talk and hug Kathy to Borr, my former broadcast

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<v Speaker 3>partner on the SEC Network. Work with Kathy for several years,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, a tremendous coach at UK administrator and has

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<v Speaker 3>retired now after a long stint as the executive director

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<v Speaker 3>of the Coaches Association. Had to step down a little

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<v Speaker 3>early because of health issues. But she's doing great and

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<v Speaker 3>she is loving what she saw in Louisville. Wanted a

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<v Speaker 3>bigger crowd, but hey, of course you think she's going

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<v Speaker 3>to say that, right, But it was good to see

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<v Speaker 3>Kathy last night. Up next, Tom Leach, the Voice of

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<v Speaker 3>the Wildcats here on six point thirty WLAP. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 3>to the Big Bluing Sider, joining us on our celebrity

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<v Speaker 3>hotline as my buddy, my teammate, longtime voice of the Wildcats,

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Leech. Hear him on this very radio station every

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<v Speaker 3>morning at eight o'clock on the Leech Report. And Tom,

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<v Speaker 3>you're like every other talk show host in Kentucky. You're

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<v Speaker 3>dying to talk about something new when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>Kentucky football. But you're the only guy who is preparing

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<v Speaker 3>to broadcast the game on the radio for the UK Network.

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<v Speaker 3>So let me ask you. Have you done anything different

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<v Speaker 3>in game prep or is there anything in particular you're

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing different in in game prep is a little Every

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<v Speaker 2>few years, I'll kind of figure out some way to

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<v Speaker 2>make my spotting bord a little more efficient, or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>something will change in the way you have, like over

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<v Speaker 2>the years, I've had to put more wide receiver slots

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<v Speaker 2>on there, things like that, But that's about the only tweaking.

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<v Speaker 2>But just eager to especially to see adds a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good that they're going about what we'll see on defensebo

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky and how good they will be on that side

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<v Speaker 2>of the ball. Eager to see what the offense is

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<v Speaker 2>going to look like. And I think you know it's

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<v Speaker 2>a new coordinator, new system. You know, the running back

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<v Speaker 2>positions of question mark because you get the number one

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<v Speaker 2>guy to that chart injured, and then not much to

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<v Speaker 2>go on for the guys who will be in that spot.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you've got a new quarterback. You've got NFL

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<v Speaker 2>caliber talent among the tight ends and wide receivers, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>one or two in the offensive line depending on how

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<v Speaker 2>things go. So just eager to see how it kind

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<v Speaker 2>of all gets put together and plays out offensively. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying that I don't know that we'll you know,

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<v Speaker 2>depends on how good Southern this is as to how

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<v Speaker 2>much we really learn until they play an SEC team

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<v Speaker 2>in Week two. So they missed three nine last year,

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<v Speaker 2>but they flipped over the whole defensive staff and these days,

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<v Speaker 2>you can change the look at your team a lot

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<v Speaker 2>quicker than you used to be able to.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Stoop's talked about that with you on the

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<v Speaker 3>air last night and at his news conference. And the offense,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, the tempo is going to be different, and

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<v Speaker 3>Stoop's very pleased by all early reports from what he

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<v Speaker 3>has seen in the spring and in summer camp. You

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<v Speaker 3>and you and mister Bracoro are going to find a

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<v Speaker 3>new rhythm. You might not be throwing it down to

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<v Speaker 3>your sidelines reporter as much because things should by by

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<v Speaker 3>design be clicking a lot faster.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, that's the plan I think is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think at times they'll be at more up tempo

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<v Speaker 2>than at others. I mean, I think ideally the way

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<v Speaker 2>a lead, and when they've been at their best, they've

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<v Speaker 2>been good at protecting leads in the fourth quarter and

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<v Speaker 2>so then you know, you'll play a little slower and

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<v Speaker 2>U I think his main thing is to getting more

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<v Speaker 2>back to being more physical in the run game. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know that's the area when you look at you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when when this program started to ascend really in the

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen season when they got to the first ball game

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<v Speaker 2>or stoops. It was with that building that identity of

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Blue Wall and by John Flarman, and then

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<v Speaker 2>as John passed and they've gone through a different guys

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<v Speaker 2>coach of the old line, and it had some you know,

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<v Speaker 2>bad luck with guys that they recruited. They were promising

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<v Speaker 2>prospects that got injured they ever got on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Nick Hall pushing one example, guys like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, they now seemed to be several guys back.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a couple of transfers, one from Florida, one

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<v Speaker 2>from Tennessee that look like they'll start on the right side.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they can get back to recapturing that identity

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<v Speaker 2>of just being you know, the two the program that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to have always have an outstanding offensive line and

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be physical, then I think they're moving

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<v Speaker 2>back in the right direction that they can pull that off.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when you think back to when things fell

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<v Speaker 3>is when Drake Jackson finally got to start at center.

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<v Speaker 3>Bunch of Stallings was the center. It didn't work out

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<v Speaker 3>as snaps were erratic, so they slide him over to

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<v Speaker 3>guard and all he does is become an All American.

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<v Speaker 3>And Drake drops into the starting job, which we all

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<v Speaker 3>kind of thought he might have earned in the preseason,

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<v Speaker 3>but no, but then he starts to win the job

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<v Speaker 3>and he becomes an All Conference center and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Darian Card is there, Big George a south of a

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<v Speaker 3>j H. So my point is everything falls into place.

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<v Speaker 3>But they had really good players. It was recruit and developed,

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<v Speaker 3>not all paid off. That was the lynch pin for

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<v Speaker 3>about coaching all you want, but they got to have

417
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<v Speaker 3>guys like Fortner who came out of nowhere and now

418
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<v Speaker 3>as an NFL starter, So you know, everybody's going to

419
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<v Speaker 3>get a shot. But if you got to have a

420
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<v Speaker 3>talent to begin with, don't you you do?

421
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<v Speaker 2>And it doesn't always want an on line work. Do

422
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<v Speaker 2>you think something is going to look good on paper,

423
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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't always work as well on the field, and

424
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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it does. So fort is a good example, was

425
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<v Speaker 2>a guard and then moved over to center and became

426
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<v Speaker 2>tremendous you know, they tried this group going into I

427
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<v Speaker 2>guess it was last season with Jagger Bert playing center,

428
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<v Speaker 2>thinking they could make use of his athleticism in the

429
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<v Speaker 2>mold of like a you know, an athletic center, like

430
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<v Speaker 2>a DERMANI Dawson was. You want to compare everybody to

431
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<v Speaker 2>Hall of Paper, but I mean that kind of you know,

432
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<v Speaker 2>athletic center that could use his speed to get out

433
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<v Speaker 2>on the edge maybe, And you know, it's it's turned

434
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<v Speaker 2>out that that wasn't the best spot for Jagger. And

435
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<v Speaker 2>now I look at him and he looks bigger and

436
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<v Speaker 2>that should help him be better at the guard position.

437
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<v Speaker 2>Eli Cox has really talked him up the spring. Eli

438
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<v Speaker 2>is now, you know, he kind of went into the

439
00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:38.839
<v Speaker 2>last season having to make a change, and then now

440
00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:41.319
<v Speaker 2>he's been locked in there. He got you know, eight

441
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<v Speaker 2>year older Marcus Cox on the outside and the two

442
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<v Speaker 2>big guys from Florida and Tennessee respectively on the right side.

443
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<v Speaker 2>They had Dylan Ray. They can play multiple positions. They've

444
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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of experience last year promising you know

445
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<v Speaker 2>young guy and Zalm from the Norda Kentucky. So uh,

446
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<v Speaker 2>I think they've got you know, seven eight guys that

447
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<v Speaker 2>they probably will be able to trust to play. Malachi

448
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<v Speaker 2>Wood is coming. He's probably My guess is maybe, you know,

449
00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:12.680
<v Speaker 2>another season before we see him at his best. But

450
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<v Speaker 2>he's really come on strong from Madison Central, and you know,

451
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<v Speaker 2>they keep that group healthy. I really expect that it'll

452
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<v Speaker 2>be a very solid offensive line, if not more than solid.

453
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<v Speaker 3>Malck high Wood is the guy who catches your eye.

454
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<v Speaker 3>Six foot eight and three twenty. But it's not one

455
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<v Speaker 3>of these situations where his ways hanging over his belt.

456
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<v Speaker 3>He looks a little bit. He reminds you of Dion

457
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<v Speaker 3>Walker when you look at him and he's so big,

458
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<v Speaker 3>but you can see that he's athletic, you know what

459
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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

460
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think he's going to maybe be a guy

461
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<v Speaker 2>like a Calvin Taylor, remember sixty nine defensive lineman, and

462
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<v Speaker 2>you know it was kind of an interesting prospect that started,

463
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<v Speaker 2>you know, the size, and he made himself into an

464
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<v Speaker 2>All SEC player yep, yep, and.

465
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<v Speaker 3>Ended up in the NFL. Talking to Tom Lee, it's

466
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<v Speaker 3>the voice of the Wildcats. He'll be behind the mic

467
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<v Speaker 3>when the Wildcats open up their season this Saturday night

468
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<v Speaker 3>against Suttern Miss. You know, one of the names that

469
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<v Speaker 3>popped up the other day. It came from one of

470
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<v Speaker 3>the coaches, It came well, it came from Stoops as well.

471
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<v Speaker 3>It came from the players. Fred Ferrier. I'm really really

472
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<v Speaker 3>curious to see what this young man can do because

473
00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:25.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, he came in from UAB, he is a

474
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<v Speaker 3>Kentucky and played his high school ball at Franklin County

475
00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:32.680
<v Speaker 3>High School. But Tom, when the other players talk about

476
00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:35.559
<v Speaker 3>a guy like this, it really piques your curiosity, doesn't it.

477
00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>It does.

478
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<v Speaker 2>Bushamon and those talked about how consistent Fred has been

479
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<v Speaker 2>as a competitor from the day.

480
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<v Speaker 8>Training camp started.

481
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<v Speaker 2>And you know, look the Kentucky guy that went off

482
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:52.519
<v Speaker 2>to UAB, now he's back here. And I think, you know,

483
00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:56.519
<v Speaker 2>their best position group is either the tight ends or

484
00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:59.000
<v Speaker 2>the wide receivers. You know, the wide receivers led by

485
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<v Speaker 2>Key and Brown. They've got good depths there. And again

486
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<v Speaker 2>that's where I'm kind of really intrigued to see how

487
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Bush him and utilizes all those guys, because you know,

488
00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:14.720
<v Speaker 2>Key and Brown are the main two guys, but Ferrier, Brown,

489
00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Stevens Macklin. We haven't mentioned that Elsa's coming in with

490
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:22.920
<v Speaker 2>an profressive record of production. So yeah, Key and Brown

491
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:24.640
<v Speaker 2>are going to command a lot of attention. That could

492
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<v Speaker 2>open up opportunity for somebody else to make a big

493
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<v Speaker 2>play here and there.

494
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<v Speaker 3>I know you can't be incredibly frank with everything you've

495
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<v Speaker 3>seen because when you go to scrimmages you're kind of

496
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<v Speaker 3>sworn to secrecy. But do you have any feel for

497
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<v Speaker 3>how they're going to use Gavin Wimsit? I know it's

498
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<v Speaker 3>in some running situations, but you know, I'm just really

499
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<v Speaker 3>curious as to how often we see him and how

500
00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:50.200
<v Speaker 3>they roll him in there.

501
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't you're probably I don't know for sure.

502
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<v Speaker 2>And even though it was wouldn't talk too much about it,

503
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:01.920
<v Speaker 2>but we can talk about the things that have been

504
00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:05.480
<v Speaker 2>said publicly. You know, push Handon said that the might

505
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:07.359
<v Speaker 2>be their best ball carrier, best guy you know, with

506
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:10.759
<v Speaker 2>the ball in his hands. So if that's the case,

507
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:14.519
<v Speaker 2>you can see why they would want to make use

508
00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:18.200
<v Speaker 2>of that. And you know, the quarterback run game certainly

509
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:20.799
<v Speaker 2>is going to seemingly be a lot bigger part of

510
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:24.160
<v Speaker 2>the offense. It wasn't will Levis's first year. Then they

511
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<v Speaker 2>changed coordinators to Stanierello. He didn't want him running, wanted

512
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<v Speaker 2>to protect him, I guess, and then last year wasn't

513
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<v Speaker 2>the forte of Devi A. Leary to do much of that.

514
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:38.680
<v Speaker 2>So now they have you know, Brock I think can

515
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:43.640
<v Speaker 2>certainly run. Whimst certainly can and so you have guys

516
00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:46.759
<v Speaker 2>that and you have questions at running back. So it

517
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:50.839
<v Speaker 2>certainly it would seem logical that you could make use of,

518
00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:56.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, a guy like Gavin in some capacity. You know,

519
00:29:57.319 --> 00:30:01.279
<v Speaker 2>there's short yardage situations, you know, if you don't have

520
00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:03.119
<v Speaker 2>that Anny Snell to turn an hand to to, or

521
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:07.559
<v Speaker 2>Chris Rodrigo or you know, in goal line situations. I

522
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<v Speaker 2>I think I've told true before. The most wasted opportunity.

523
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<v Speaker 2>I always thought maybe the history of Entuckey's football was

524
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<v Speaker 2>when they had Shane Boyd and Jared Lorenzeny and split

525
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<v Speaker 2>Jared out. You run the wildcat type formation with Shane

526
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:26.079
<v Speaker 2>taking the direct snap and split Jared out wide, and

527
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:28.640
<v Speaker 2>somebody had to go out and cover him. Well, he

528
00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:32.599
<v Speaker 2>could catch anything, he was athletics, So Shane let Shane

529
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:35.160
<v Speaker 2>throw it out to him, and you either dare a

530
00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:38.720
<v Speaker 2>small defensive back to tackling, which wasn't gonna happen, or

531
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<v Speaker 2>they have to put somebody bigger out there that Jared would.

532
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<v Speaker 8>Be you know, nimble enough to get around and I

533
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<v Speaker 8>just thought.

534
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<v Speaker 2>There couldn't have been a more effective kind of two

535
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:50.920
<v Speaker 2>point play or you know, the deep red zone play

536
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<v Speaker 2>than something like that.

537
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<v Speaker 3>But absolutely throw him a bubble screen, yes, and then

538
00:30:57.240 --> 00:30:59.599
<v Speaker 3>let a defensive back try to take him down. That

539
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:05.119
<v Speaker 3>would be Derek Ramsey situation, wouldn't it. Yes, Well, they

540
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:07.279
<v Speaker 3>need to put us in charge every once in a while, Tom,

541
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:08.240
<v Speaker 3>it'd be a lot more fun.

542
00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:10.960
<v Speaker 2>But you know, with damn if they're using him at

543
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:13.640
<v Speaker 2>if they use him in some Wildcat stuff, yeah, well

544
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:14.680
<v Speaker 2>we'll see.

545
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<v Speaker 1>That be effective.

546
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:18.400
<v Speaker 2>And I know it's frustrated some fans, but when it works, well,

547
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:21.599
<v Speaker 2>it's a very effective play. South Carolina knows that with

548
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Jojo Kemp for that twenty fourteen age. But they've never

549
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:27.839
<v Speaker 2>really had a situation where they had a guy there

550
00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:31.200
<v Speaker 2>they you know, were confident putting the ball in the air,

551
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:34.400
<v Speaker 2>even with Bowden. And you know if you had a

552
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:37.559
<v Speaker 2>a guy who's actually a quarterback that is maybe doing

553
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:39.559
<v Speaker 2>some of that kind of stuff, well you would think

554
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:40.440
<v Speaker 2>that could be interesting.

555
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<v Speaker 3>Tom Leach is a voice of the Wildcats. We'll come

556
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:45.000
<v Speaker 3>back and talk more football with Tom in just a minute.

557
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<v Speaker 3>You're on a big bloom Sider six thirty wlap. Welcome

558
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:50.480
<v Speaker 3>back for chatting with Tom Leach. He is the radio

559
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.599
<v Speaker 3>voice of the Wildcats, and of course he'll be behind

560
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.039
<v Speaker 3>the mic when Kentucky opens up against Souttern Miss on

561
00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:59.720
<v Speaker 3>Saturday Night and Southern Miss. It just prompts a lot

562
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:02.519
<v Speaker 3>of for me, Tom, with of course the comeback win

563
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:06.720
<v Speaker 3>by the Golden Eagles here Kentucky grinds out that when

564
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:09.559
<v Speaker 3>I heard you talking on your show about Josh Pascal

565
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:11.680
<v Speaker 3>having a big game down there, the big hit on

566
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:16.160
<v Speaker 3>Edo down there, that basically signaled Josh's entrance to the

567
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:21.559
<v Speaker 3>Kentucky defense. I'll never forget that. But it also reminds

568
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:27.039
<v Speaker 3>me of how the Drew Barker injury. Still, the ramifications

569
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:30.119
<v Speaker 3>are being felt, the ripple effect of when they couldn't

570
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:33.799
<v Speaker 3>develop him as their QB for three years and Juco

571
00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:36.680
<v Speaker 3>guy started to have to roll in, and you know,

572
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:38.960
<v Speaker 3>the quarterback positions kind of been up in the air

573
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:42.799
<v Speaker 3>ever since. I don't know if it ends eventually with

574
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:46.440
<v Speaker 3>Cutter Bowley being a three year starter, even a two

575
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:49.319
<v Speaker 3>year starter, but it's just funny how that's worked out,

576
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:49.759
<v Speaker 3>hasn't it.

577
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:53.359
<v Speaker 2>It is, and you think back to that twenty sixteen

578
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:59.480
<v Speaker 2>game and the idea of the phrase historical hypotheticals. If

579
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:02.680
<v Speaker 2>something different had happened, how my history, the course of

580
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:07.039
<v Speaker 2>history had shaped. In that game against Southern Mez, Drew

581
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Barker threw four touchdown passes in the first half. Eddie

582
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:13.839
<v Speaker 2>Grant was a new offensive coordinator and came in with

583
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:17.920
<v Speaker 2>a rep of running a high powered passing attack at Cincinnati,

584
00:33:18.359 --> 00:33:20.119
<v Speaker 2>and it looked like that was going to was going

585
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:23.839
<v Speaker 2>to build on that with this exciting quarterback prospect in Barker,

586
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:28.319
<v Speaker 2>and then Drew ends up getting hurt and they become

587
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.079
<v Speaker 2>basically kind of like the They had to go to

588
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:34.839
<v Speaker 2>Steven Johnson, a quarterback who turned out to be wonderful

589
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:38.200
<v Speaker 2>in that role. But they became kind of like a

590
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:45.079
<v Speaker 2>seventies Oakland Raiders team in that they were physical running

591
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:45.960
<v Speaker 2>team that hits.

592
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:47.119
<v Speaker 8>You with a deep bomb.

593
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:49.680
<v Speaker 2>You know those old day the going the way back

594
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:52.359
<v Speaker 2>there to Warren Wells or Fred Mellinko. But you know

595
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.119
<v Speaker 2>that they had, you know, big bombs to Bedet and

596
00:33:56.160 --> 00:33:56.839
<v Speaker 2>Jus Johnson.

597
00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:02.279
<v Speaker 8>And then as it then evolved to where so the.

598
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky develops this rep as a physical running team and

599
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:09.000
<v Speaker 2>then you lose two quarterbacks in nineteen and it becomes

600
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:11.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, an amazing job that Eddie did building that

601
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:14.960
<v Speaker 2>team around Lynn Bowden. But it got to the point

602
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:17.480
<v Speaker 2>where Kentucky got this rep that made it hard to

603
00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:21.039
<v Speaker 2>recruit quarterbacks and receivers. And you know how that might

604
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:23.760
<v Speaker 2>have been different if Drew Barker had stayed healthy and

605
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:24.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, things had.

606
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:26.639
<v Speaker 8>Gone differently in that first name against Southern myth.

607
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<v Speaker 2>Just an interesting kind of historical hypothetical.

608
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:33.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's still being felt, but maybe it pays off.

609
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<v Speaker 3>On Saturday with Rock Vandergriff, we talked a lot of offense, Tom,

610
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<v Speaker 3>but I'm really curious to see how Jamon Dumas Johnson

611
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<v Speaker 3>makes himself known as a Kentucky Wilkat a guy. I mean,

612
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:49.559
<v Speaker 3>you never hear about all Americans transferring, but when you're Georgia,

613
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:52.960
<v Speaker 3>you can recruit over an injured linebacker with another five

614
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:56.280
<v Speaker 3>star and that's what they did. This could work out well,

615
00:34:57.679 --> 00:34:58.079
<v Speaker 3>very well.

616
00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:01.960
<v Speaker 2>It could be a big piece of good fortune for Kentucky.

617
00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:05.199
<v Speaker 2>Got an experienced guy inside there and Derek Jackson that thought,

618
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not playing Alexafaris something inside yep. Rayner gives him

619
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:13.599
<v Speaker 2>depth there too, so you know with Eon Walker and

620
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:16.840
<v Speaker 2>then those linebackers, you know and Keyshon Silver, these guys

621
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<v Speaker 2>up front and the guys in the middle of that

622
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:21.679
<v Speaker 2>linebacker line. You know, one would think it would be

623
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:24.800
<v Speaker 2>difficult to run on Kentucky and you can, you know,

624
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:27.199
<v Speaker 2>start with controlling the running game and then you've got

625
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:29.440
<v Speaker 2>an all SEC corner on one side of the field

626
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<v Speaker 2>to get their best receiver. Baby, you can see why

627
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:36.079
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of reason to be optimistic about the death.

628
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:36.559
<v Speaker 1>At the time.

629
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<v Speaker 3>Before I let you go, we haven't talked much special

630
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:44.719
<v Speaker 3>teams and Stoops is really happy with his placekickers. I'm

631
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:48.360
<v Speaker 3>hearing the Wilson Barry won the punting job and he

632
00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:50.960
<v Speaker 3>came here of course the Australian style. We thought he'd

633
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:54.320
<v Speaker 3>be the next if not Max Duffy's something similar, but

634
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:59.119
<v Speaker 3>they haven't really let him use the Rugby style of punting,

635
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:02.960
<v Speaker 3>which I find puzzling. But he does have a good leg, doesn't.

636
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:06.079
<v Speaker 2>He He does the biggest leg. I think it's a

637
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:10.119
<v Speaker 2>transfer for mute Martin la Ross, but I think he

638
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:13.480
<v Speaker 2>was expected to win the job and sounds like he hasn't.

639
00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:19.159
<v Speaker 2>So either you know Barry it has improved, or he's

640
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:21.119
<v Speaker 2>just simply been more consistent.

641
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:23.519
<v Speaker 8>You know, if la Ross has got.

642
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:26.480
<v Speaker 2>The biggest leg, then there'll probably be you know, you know,

643
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:29.440
<v Speaker 2>he'll keep the heat on Barry at that position, which

644
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:33.920
<v Speaker 2>ought to you know, build improved performance if you've got

645
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:37.400
<v Speaker 2>somebody pushing you hard for your job. I can't remember

646
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:39.440
<v Speaker 2>all the details, but Kach Buller was on the Sunday

647
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Morning Show earlier this summer and he gave a good

648
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:46.119
<v Speaker 2>explanation about his approach and why they didn't want to

649
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:48.840
<v Speaker 2>use the Australian style hunting. And I can't remember all

650
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:51.559
<v Speaker 2>the details. One of us can get him on the

651
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:53.519
<v Speaker 2>air again and get him to talk about it again.

652
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:56.800
<v Speaker 2>But it was just I thought an excellent explanation. Even

653
00:36:56.800 --> 00:36:58.800
<v Speaker 2>if he didn't agree with it, you understood his thinking

654
00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:03.280
<v Speaker 2>on and so you know it's the bottom line is

655
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:07.840
<v Speaker 2>they have to be better at the punting game, and

656
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:12.159
<v Speaker 2>they with Loross and then the freshman Colway, they should

657
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:15.280
<v Speaker 2>be better at kickoffs. And last year I had a

658
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:18.000
<v Speaker 2>chance Pour a little hurt at the end and then

659
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:20.199
<v Speaker 2>Rainer had to kick and he just didn't have as

660
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:22.599
<v Speaker 2>big a leg for kickoffs, and so that hurt them

661
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:27.119
<v Speaker 2>in the bowl game tremendously right, and that kickoff part

662
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:29.400
<v Speaker 2>of it should be much improved. They've got a great

663
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:33.800
<v Speaker 2>return game. They just need to really solidify the punting

664
00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:36.119
<v Speaker 2>and you know, it sounds like it's going to be

665
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:36.880
<v Speaker 2>bare to start.

666
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:38.880
<v Speaker 8>And if he can hold on to the.

667
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:40.679
<v Speaker 2>Job, I know the other guy's got a big leg.

668
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:43.960
<v Speaker 2>So Ferry can hold onto the job through his performance

669
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:46.559
<v Speaker 2>that dought to lead to improvement, yep.

670
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:49.000
<v Speaker 3>And if he can place it the way Max Stuffy

671
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.599
<v Speaker 3>did and maybe occasionally break went off and run it

672
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:55.199
<v Speaker 3>the way Max did. Fun when when he won the

673
00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:58.360
<v Speaker 3>Ray Guy Award, the one highlight they showed Max was

674
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:01.039
<v Speaker 3>him running for a first down again Missouri in the rain,

675
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:04.280
<v Speaker 3>So he still laughs about that. Tom Leach is the

676
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.000
<v Speaker 3>radio voice of the Wildcats. How many years now? For football?

677
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:09.000
<v Speaker 3>I know you did football before you did basketball.

678
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:12.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I started football in ninety seven, So what would

679
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:16.800
<v Speaker 2>this would be? The twenty seventh year, the twenty eighth a.

680
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:21.599
<v Speaker 3>Then and for Pacoro the twenty fifth year, and for

681
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:22.400
<v Speaker 3>me the thing.

682
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:26.400
<v Speaker 2>He started pick started in two thousands. He're the dean,

683
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:29.199
<v Speaker 2>you're the dean of Mark Stewts is the dean of coaches.

684
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:30.840
<v Speaker 2>He're the dean of Sideline Report.

685
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Nineteen eighty nine. About that all right, Well, we can't

686
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:36.679
<v Speaker 3>wait to get started. Tom Leach listen to him every

687
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:39.119
<v Speaker 3>morning on this very radio station on the Leach Report,

688
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:42.360
<v Speaker 3>and of course on Saturday night. Thank you, Sarah. We'll

689
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:43.440
<v Speaker 3>see you at the Ballyard.

690
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:44.679
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I can't wait.

691
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:49.159
<v Speaker 3>Unforgettable Guard Shawn Woods is up next in our number two.

692
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:51.519
<v Speaker 3>Then it's West End Bureau Chief Gary Moore here on

693
00:38:51.559 --> 00:39:28.960
<v Speaker 3>the Big Blue Siders six thirty wlap. Welcome back to

694
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:30.920
<v Speaker 3>the Big Blue Insider and joining us as he does

695
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:33.840
<v Speaker 3>each and every Wednesday, is the Unforgettable Guard. Sean Woods,

696
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:37.480
<v Speaker 3>a Jersey hangs in the rafters of rupp, a veteran

697
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:40.920
<v Speaker 3>of the coaching wars, and of course a wildcat who

698
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:45.719
<v Speaker 3>played under Rick Patino back in the day. And you, guys, coach,

699
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:49.920
<v Speaker 3>you played some tough games under Patino. He believed in

700
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:53.079
<v Speaker 3>scheduling tough, I know. And you had to, didn't you

701
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:55.599
<v Speaker 3>as a head coach, because you were at schools that

702
00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:59.840
<v Speaker 3>needed to play those tough road games for budgetary reasons.

703
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm refraying, of course, to Kentucky and Nebraska playing last

704
00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:05.599
<v Speaker 3>night in the volleyball event. But tell me a little

705
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:08.480
<v Speaker 3>bit about helping your teams learn even though they're taking

706
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:09.079
<v Speaker 3>their lumps.

707
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:12.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, like you said that, you know, the

708
00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:15.280
<v Speaker 1>schools I coached that we had to because we had

709
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:20.719
<v Speaker 1>to bring in so much money from a budgetary standpoint.

710
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:24.639
<v Speaker 1>So what I did was I used it to my advantage,

711
00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:29.920
<v Speaker 1>and most schools at my level did it, especially in

712
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:33.280
<v Speaker 1>the Southwestern Athletic Conference, where you want it if you

713
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:35.760
<v Speaker 1>got to make the money. To you, you know, all

714
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:38.719
<v Speaker 1>those schools that you have to play are pretty much

715
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:43.079
<v Speaker 1>better than you, having more resources than you probably got,

716
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:46.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, from a recruiting standpoint, got higher rated players

717
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:48.079
<v Speaker 1>than you. But you wanted to go out there and

718
00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:51.000
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to test to get you ready for conference.

719
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:53.920
<v Speaker 1>And what better way to do that is to go

720
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:56.360
<v Speaker 1>out and play the best in Kentucky And most of

721
00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:59.599
<v Speaker 1>the when I played Shooes, we played Notre Dame, we

722
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:07.079
<v Speaker 1>played North Carolina, we played Kansas. You know, so there's

723
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:12.480
<v Speaker 1>always fining. If everybody wants to play the toughest teams

724
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:14.599
<v Speaker 1>to get them ready for the league and also to

725
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:19.079
<v Speaker 1>see where they are. And you know you're talking about volleyball.

726
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:21.760
<v Speaker 1>We were talking about that earlier. It's just a true

727
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:24.920
<v Speaker 1>test whether for protect you wildcast to gauge whether you

728
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:27.280
<v Speaker 1>are right now, and then also what they need to

729
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:30.400
<v Speaker 1>work on as they go throughout the season, because they're

730
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:32.360
<v Speaker 1>going to make these type of people again to have

731
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:34.480
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to go to the NC Double A tournament.

732
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:36.440
<v Speaker 1>We won an NC Double A championship.

733
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 3>I remember when you guys went down to North Carolina

734
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:43.320
<v Speaker 3>and everybody thought you'd get blown out and if not

735
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:46.679
<v Speaker 3>for some funky calls, you might pull an upset down

736
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:49.639
<v Speaker 3>there in Chapel Hill, and the other things I remember

737
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:52.400
<v Speaker 3>about that was I think it might have been John Pelfrey,

738
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:55.119
<v Speaker 3>maybe it was. You told me that coming out of

739
00:41:55.159 --> 00:41:58.519
<v Speaker 3>that game gave you guys so much confidence that you

740
00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:00.840
<v Speaker 3>could go down and having a good Nor Carolina team

741
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:04.199
<v Speaker 3>in a tough spot, but playing them that tough gave

742
00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:08.199
<v Speaker 3>you all so much confidence moving forward. And yet Patino

743
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:11.800
<v Speaker 3>decided to cancel that series, which you know, for better

744
00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:13.679
<v Speaker 3>or worse, it just kind of tick some people off.

745
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:15.639
<v Speaker 3>But what do you recall about that, and hell, it

746
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:16.880
<v Speaker 3>helped build your ball club.

747
00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:20.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, you got to remember, now, no one wanted to

748
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:22.159
<v Speaker 1>come into rough right, you know, that's the only thing

749
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I questioned was why we had to go to Why

750
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:26.519
<v Speaker 1>do we have to go to all these places and

751
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:29.400
<v Speaker 1>play them? We played Carolina in the Dean Dome, but

752
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:33.039
<v Speaker 1>then we had to play Carolina and Freedom Hall. You know,

753
00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:36.920
<v Speaker 1>we play Indiana in Assembly Hall, but then we had

754
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:39.840
<v Speaker 1>to play them in either Louisville or a neutral site

755
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:44.039
<v Speaker 1>like the Hoosier Don't Yeah, you know, so it really

756
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't fair. And I understood coach at that particular time, like,

757
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:50.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, who's doing these deals, you know, who's scheduling

758
00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:53.599
<v Speaker 1>this to where we have to play at their home site.

759
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:56.280
<v Speaker 1>But then they don't want to come playing rough. And

760
00:42:56.440 --> 00:42:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I heard grumblings that, you know, Bob Knight never like

761
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.039
<v Speaker 1>could come playing rough, so on and so forth, But

762
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:04.920
<v Speaker 1>we came and played in the Assembly Hall. You know,

763
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I just didn't buy that. But nowadays, these Power five

764
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:14.760
<v Speaker 1>schools are playing in classics because of money, so on

765
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and so forth. You know, they're playing in the uh

766
00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:21.480
<v Speaker 1>in in places like you know Mark, I mean of

767
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Madison Madison Square Guards. Yeah, so it's kind of changed

768
00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:31.880
<v Speaker 1>because TV is taken over, but it's still you go

769
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:35.760
<v Speaker 1>up against the nation's best, and you know, the Blue

770
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:37.400
<v Speaker 1>blush need to go against each other. I think the

771
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Kansas and Kentucky's, Indiana's, you know, the North Carolina's, the

772
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:46.440
<v Speaker 1>dude you know, and whoever else is hot at that

773
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:52.440
<v Speaker 1>time need to clash like they have been doing, just

774
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:56.159
<v Speaker 1>for competitive nature, you know what I'm saying, tradition, pride,

775
00:43:56.800 --> 00:44:00.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, not trying to schedule cupcake games, you know,

776
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:05.079
<v Speaker 1>to statue your win loss record. But if you were

777
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:07.440
<v Speaker 1>one of those schools, why not want to play against

778
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:10.320
<v Speaker 1>the kids? I always wanted to play against the top

779
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:12.239
<v Speaker 1>schools when I was in college. The only teams that

780
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:15.039
<v Speaker 1>we did not play were the teams out West. We

781
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:18.440
<v Speaker 1>never went out West. We never played UCLA, you know,

782
00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:22.159
<v Speaker 1>we never played those teams for whatever reason. But everybody

783
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:24.760
<v Speaker 1>else we played. You know who was really really good.

784
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:28.079
<v Speaker 3>Well, you were never short on confidence. I know that

785
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:31.679
<v Speaker 3>about you. But I will tell you I know this

786
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:34.079
<v Speaker 3>for a fact because he told me when it came

787
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:37.880
<v Speaker 3>to scheduling North Carolina that was Sam Newton's doing, because

788
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:41.039
<v Speaker 3>you know, he took over after the insane investigation, and

789
00:44:41.480 --> 00:44:44.320
<v Speaker 3>there were schools that just didn't want to play you guys,

790
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:47.760
<v Speaker 3>just because of uh, you know, the fallout from the

791
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:51.159
<v Speaker 3>investigation and see him went to Dean Smith and said, look,

792
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:53.679
<v Speaker 3>it would merely help our credibility, believe it or not,

793
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:58.039
<v Speaker 3>if you would play us. And and Dean Smith said, okay,

794
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:00.960
<v Speaker 3>but you know the caveat obviously was I don't want

795
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:03.599
<v Speaker 3>to come to Rupperena. So he had the bargaining power there,

796
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:08.239
<v Speaker 3>and I'm certain that's probably what happened with Indiana as well.

797
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:10.440
<v Speaker 3>But you guys still made to work for you, didn't you.

798
00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:14.360
<v Speaker 1>We did, you know? And you know we went to

799
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:17.599
<v Speaker 1>Kansas at one year. We get beat fifty five the

800
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:21.039
<v Speaker 1>first year, but Kansas did come the rupt, you know,

801
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:22.079
<v Speaker 1>and we got him.

802
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:24.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh you got him good, didn't you?

803
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:28.840
<v Speaker 1>We got him good? And uh, I just think, you know,

804
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:32.119
<v Speaker 1>even now, you know, if I'm playing, if I'm coaching

805
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:35.119
<v Speaker 1>at a mid major, I still want to play two

806
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:39.760
<v Speaker 1>three high major schools. One recruiting too, I want to

807
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:41.760
<v Speaker 1>see where I'm at, and three as a coach, I

808
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:44.760
<v Speaker 1>want to see how well I can do if fair

809
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:48.239
<v Speaker 1>with the guy who's who's you know, been coaching twenty

810
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:48.719
<v Speaker 1>thirty years.

811
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:49.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

812
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:52.760
<v Speaker 1>When I was at Missipi Valley, you know, I wanted

813
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:54.599
<v Speaker 1>to go plag it because I had to so I

814
00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:58.599
<v Speaker 1>chose the toughest schools in America too, that was gonna

815
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:00.559
<v Speaker 1>pay the most money. So the people paid the most

816
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:05.239
<v Speaker 1>money were the bigger, the best teams, and I wanted

817
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:08.559
<v Speaker 1>to fare. Maybe we want to win the game, but

818
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:11.239
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to see from a percentage wise, you know,

819
00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:13.119
<v Speaker 1>how many times can I come out of a time

820
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:15.280
<v Speaker 1>out of score? You know, how many times can I

821
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:18.199
<v Speaker 1>come out out and and and stop them from scoring?

822
00:46:19.239 --> 00:46:22.760
<v Speaker 1>How can I you know, the rebounding margin, the turnover

823
00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:29.559
<v Speaker 1>the sister turnover ratio, rebound offensive rebounds, how many can

824
00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:33.719
<v Speaker 1>can we get against this high power team? How many

825
00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:35.119
<v Speaker 1>times can we turn them over?

826
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:35.960
<v Speaker 2>You know?

827
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:39.760
<v Speaker 1>So there were little nuggets and a little small points

828
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:43.400
<v Speaker 1>that I wanted to do to go when I'm going

829
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:46.840
<v Speaker 1>against these teams, to challenge myself and see where I

830
00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:51.920
<v Speaker 1>was even though we weren't there from a physical standpoint

831
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:53.880
<v Speaker 1>or or a player standpoint.

832
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:57.320
<v Speaker 3>Before I hit the break. Looking back, you took Mississippi

833
00:46:57.400 --> 00:46:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Valley State. That was one of three teams you took

834
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:02.639
<v Speaker 3>the post play. You got them in the nca Tournament,

835
00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:04.320
<v Speaker 3>which I know was a huge deal. He had an

836
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:07.760
<v Speaker 3>incredible season, seventeen to one in the conference. You win

837
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:09.840
<v Speaker 3>your conference tournament, which is the only way you're going

838
00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:12.159
<v Speaker 3>to get in, and you're playing the first four and

839
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:15.920
<v Speaker 3>you lose by a point to Western Kentucky, which just

840
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:19.199
<v Speaker 3>had to be heartbreaking because I believe the way it

841
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:22.519
<v Speaker 3>played out was next up, you guys would have played Kentucky.

842
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yes, yeah, yes, how tough was that? I was

843
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:31.199
<v Speaker 1>so devastated. You know, we were winning the whole game,

844
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:35.480
<v Speaker 1>and but foul trouble kind of plagued us a little bit.

845
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:39.559
<v Speaker 1>I was only playing seven guys, oh really, and two

846
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:42.400
<v Speaker 1>of them filed out, well, actually three of them, and

847
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:44.519
<v Speaker 1>I had to play another kid that really hadn't played

848
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:47.519
<v Speaker 1>all year, and one of them was my point guard.

849
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:50.639
<v Speaker 1>So you know, you struggled down the stretch just holding

850
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:51.320
<v Speaker 1>on to the ball.

851
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:56.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, wow, well what it's always would have should have,

852
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:58.880
<v Speaker 3>could have? But that was that was about quite a

853
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:02.039
<v Speaker 3>year when Kentucky he wins the national title. That and

854
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:04.760
<v Speaker 3>by the way, you would have played UK in Louisville,

855
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:07.760
<v Speaker 3>which would have been another bonus for you, not too

856
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:09.960
<v Speaker 3>far from home, and you had played in Louisville before.

857
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:14.360
<v Speaker 3>And that particular season, there were two different occasions that

858
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:18.119
<v Speaker 3>saw a fifteen upset A two, which, as you know,

859
00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:21.760
<v Speaker 3>just doesn't happen very often. So anyhow, another walk down

860
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:23.199
<v Speaker 3>memory lane too.

861
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:26.039
<v Speaker 1>We were that we had the second longest running streak

862
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:31.159
<v Speaker 1>behind Kentucky. Kentucky had the longest winning streak, and us

863
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:34.400
<v Speaker 1>in Missippi Valley had the second longest. Winn Street seventeenth Street.

864
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:39.960
<v Speaker 3>No kidding, that's oh see, I didn't even know that. Man. Well, well,

865
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:42.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, you live and learn, all right, We'll take

866
00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:43.960
<v Speaker 3>a break, come back, talk a little more football with

867
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:49.280
<v Speaker 3>Sean Woods of the Unforgettable Fame. His jersey hangs in

868
00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:51.480
<v Speaker 3>the rafters of are up. Back in a minute on

869
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:55.079
<v Speaker 3>six thirty wlap. Welcome back to the big lum Sider.

870
00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:57.840
<v Speaker 3>We're talking with Sean Woods, the Unforgettable Guard, of course,

871
00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:01.880
<v Speaker 3>played at Kentucky late eighties, early nineties. Sean football was

872
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:05.880
<v Speaker 3>struggling back then, making the change from Jerry Clayburn to

873
00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Bill Curry, not like it is now with bowl games

874
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:13.400
<v Speaker 3>and everything. How did football figure into your life as

875
00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:15.840
<v Speaker 3>a college student? Did you guys come to games? Did

876
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:19.480
<v Speaker 3>you know many of the football players I was coach to?

877
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:21.559
<v Speaker 1>Mostly all of them? You know, we mel met at

878
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:24.920
<v Speaker 1>cat which was a you know, study hall, and we

879
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:29.440
<v Speaker 1>all became friends and we hung out, party have fun

880
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:36.159
<v Speaker 1>with each other. You know, I'll tell you what. It was,

881
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:41.360
<v Speaker 1>just a great friendship between us. Even though they were solid,

882
00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:44.920
<v Speaker 1>they weren't bad, were solid. You know, they went to

883
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:51.480
<v Speaker 1>bowl games. I can't remember ninety three, I think, you

884
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:57.280
<v Speaker 1>know Poopy Jones and those guys, you know, the Affarrals,

885
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:04.320
<v Speaker 1>the so the John Bowters, the Phil Logan's, the Ron Robinson.

886
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, those guys were good guys. I just loved

887
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:10.719
<v Speaker 1>hanging with him and we had a great time. We

888
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:15.000
<v Speaker 1>had great memories just being college athletes and also not

889
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:18.159
<v Speaker 1>liking school, but we had to do school and go

890
00:50:18.280 --> 00:50:20.239
<v Speaker 1>on to cat so we you know, a lot of

891
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:23.079
<v Speaker 1>us major and the same thing. You know, the Sterling

892
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Wards of the world. You know, it was a really

893
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:28.519
<v Speaker 1>good friend of mine, so you know, there was a

894
00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:31.199
<v Speaker 1>close bond with us. We worked out with them sometimes,

895
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:33.840
<v Speaker 1>especially in the off season. You know, we all shared

896
00:50:33.960 --> 00:50:37.039
<v Speaker 1>at your Berry a little bit, so you know, it

897
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:38.800
<v Speaker 1>was it was It was a fun time. It was

898
00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:41.599
<v Speaker 1>a tough time. But when Rock Oliver came in and

899
00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:44.760
<v Speaker 1>those guys were seeing us work out, they tried Rock

900
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:48.960
<v Speaker 1>but but but they couldn't handle Rock really, so that

901
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:51.920
<v Speaker 1>while we were really good and they weren't so far

902
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:56.000
<v Speaker 1>because mentally and physically they weren't ready for Rock Oliver.

903
00:50:56.159 --> 00:50:59.840
<v Speaker 1>We had to endure Rock Oliver. They didn't have to endure.

904
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:03.119
<v Speaker 1>They could, they could walk away whenever they wanted to,

905
00:51:03.239 --> 00:51:04.559
<v Speaker 1>and by god they did.

906
00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:09.039
<v Speaker 3>I remember Pat Etcherberry and obviously Rock still around. I

907
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:12.440
<v Speaker 3>did not know that that they dip their toe into

908
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:15.639
<v Speaker 3>the rock water. That's interesting. As we talked to Sean Woods.

909
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:17.000
<v Speaker 1>A couple of them, not all of them.

910
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:24.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I understand that completely. NFL season is nearby,

911
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:28.519
<v Speaker 3>and you grew up in Indianapolis. Are you a coach

912
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:30.679
<v Speaker 3>fan or where are your loyalties Lye? In the NFL?

913
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I am a coach fan, but I am a great

914
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:41.519
<v Speaker 1>organization fan. I am a fan of coaches that still

915
00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:47.920
<v Speaker 1>continue to stress discipline and professionalism. And I'll tell you

916
00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:50.400
<v Speaker 1>what the Pittsburgh Stielers were at the top, New England

917
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:56.519
<v Speaker 1>Patriots or the Epitome at one time, but right now

918
00:51:56.639 --> 00:52:03.000
<v Speaker 1>it's the Pittsburgh still is because he's been so consistent, Yes,

919
00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:07.320
<v Speaker 1>and his message is the same. Unfortunately, you know, it's

920
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:11.079
<v Speaker 1>a player's game, and he hasn't had a great quarterback

921
00:52:11.159 --> 00:52:15.760
<v Speaker 1>since Roethlisberger when he was younger, and why not feel

922
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:18.760
<v Speaker 1>so sorry for him? But man, he stays competitive no

923
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:21.679
<v Speaker 1>matter who's on his team, who he's got, and they're

924
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:27.880
<v Speaker 1>always in the playoffs. So that's great sustainability and the

925
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:30.559
<v Speaker 1>less you know what type of guy he is, and

926
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:33.599
<v Speaker 1>he has the longest tenure of any head coach in

927
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:34.079
<v Speaker 1>the NFL.

928
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:37.719
<v Speaker 3>That's right. Yeah, before I shift you over a well,

929
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:40.440
<v Speaker 3>let me put it this way. Before I let you go,

930
00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:44.119
<v Speaker 3>I got to ask you about this nonsense with Anthony

931
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:47.679
<v Speaker 3>Edwards and now the other veteran NBA players are chiming in.

932
00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:50.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you saw his comments saying that

933
00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:55.079
<v Speaker 3>players from back in the nineties couldn't I don't know

934
00:52:55.519 --> 00:53:00.280
<v Speaker 3>his exact comments, but wouldn't prosper in today's game, We haven't,

935
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:02.760
<v Speaker 3>Garnett and a lot of guys clap back at him, saying,

936
00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:07.239
<v Speaker 3>guys today couldn't handle what we did back in the nineties.

937
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:10.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you're familiar with all this stuff,

938
00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:13.360
<v Speaker 3>but that seems pretty absurd. And I know Edwards is

939
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:15.079
<v Speaker 3>maybe the best player in the game and a Gold

940
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:18.119
<v Speaker 3>medal player, but come on, man, you can't say that,

941
00:53:18.320 --> 00:53:18.599
<v Speaker 3>can you?

942
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:23.039
<v Speaker 1>I have a son who's in this era. Okay, he's

943
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:30.599
<v Speaker 1>twenty three years and I coached him and he has

944
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:35.320
<v Speaker 1>pretty much all these young young guys have the same mentality. Okay,

945
00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:38.880
<v Speaker 1>because I'm just gonna be honest with you. They never

946
00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:41.679
<v Speaker 1>went through anything. They don't know what a virtuity is.

947
00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:45.679
<v Speaker 1>Look at college basketball right now, you can transfer. You

948
00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:49.719
<v Speaker 1>don't have to sit and wait by your time and

949
00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:53.239
<v Speaker 1>wait for that senior who's been there four years to leave,

950
00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:55.519
<v Speaker 1>so you can, you know, you can have an opportunity

951
00:53:55.519 --> 00:54:02.159
<v Speaker 1>to play. You know, it's so much of a microwave society.

952
00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:05.119
<v Speaker 1>These kids don't know nothing and whatever. You and I

953
00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:09.159
<v Speaker 1>had had this conversation and we've been talking about it

954
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:12.719
<v Speaker 1>is these guys don't know the past. They don't know history,

955
00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:17.039
<v Speaker 1>so they have no clue. And if you don't have

956
00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:24.039
<v Speaker 1>any clue, you don't have any respect for what has

957
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:28.159
<v Speaker 1>come before you. And how can we blame them? How

958
00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:30.400
<v Speaker 1>can we get on them when they really don't know?

959
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:33.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, we didn't have all this social media. We

960
00:54:33.880 --> 00:54:39.519
<v Speaker 1>had TV, okay, and we watched what our parents watched.

961
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:42.239
<v Speaker 1>So if you had a dad, or you went over

962
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:44.039
<v Speaker 1>your friend's house and they had a dad and they

963
00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:48.360
<v Speaker 1>were watching sports. You were watching Doctor J. You were

964
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:52.719
<v Speaker 1>watching David Thompson, you were watching Moses Malone, you were

965
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:58.760
<v Speaker 1>watching Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Jamal Wilson, Gus Williams. These guys,

966
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:01.199
<v Speaker 1>these guys don't be. These kids right now haven't even

967
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:06.440
<v Speaker 1>heard of. So there's no respect. Okay, the game has

968
00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:10.920
<v Speaker 1>changed because there's this's freedom of movement. There's not a

969
00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:13.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of contact, there's not a lot of physicality. There's

970
00:55:14.039 --> 00:55:17.840
<v Speaker 1>no fear of going inside on a hard drive and

971
00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:21.480
<v Speaker 1>getting knocked on your behind by a seven foot, three

972
00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:26.599
<v Speaker 1>hundred pounder. Okay, these guys don't know who Artist Gilmore is,

973
00:55:26.599 --> 00:55:29.239
<v Speaker 1>who will knock your blocks off. They don't know the

974
00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:32.639
<v Speaker 1>Jack Sigmals, They don't know the Bill Lambert's, you know,

975
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:34.960
<v Speaker 1>the cheam Elijah was. They probably hurt them, but never

976
00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:38.559
<v Speaker 1>watched them. So that stuff that Anthony Evers is saying

977
00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:42.800
<v Speaker 1>is just a proud He's just a product of today's society.

978
00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:46.599
<v Speaker 1>He don't know. He can't even tell you, you know,

979
00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:50.159
<v Speaker 1>like he said he didn't know how good Magic Johnson was.

980
00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:53.679
<v Speaker 1>He don't even know who Magic is. You know, these

981
00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:56.360
<v Speaker 1>guys don't even know who Isaiah Thomas is how tough

982
00:55:56.719 --> 00:56:00.559
<v Speaker 1>he was as a little guy that had to, you know,

983
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:05.800
<v Speaker 1>play and find his niche between Magic Johnson and Larry Bird.

984
00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:10.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, oh, they don't. They don't understand that. You know,

985
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:13.280
<v Speaker 1>they don't even know the college that they go to.

986
00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:15.559
<v Speaker 1>They don't even know the best players that went to

987
00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:19.519
<v Speaker 1>that college. I guarantee you right now, you can go

988
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:25.920
<v Speaker 1>to Duke University, Okay, and probably eight out of the thirteen,

989
00:56:26.199 --> 00:56:28.880
<v Speaker 1>probably nine or ten out of the thirteen scholarship players

990
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:32.360
<v Speaker 1>couldn't tell you about Bobby Hurley or Christian Lightner.

991
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:35.280
<v Speaker 3>Maybe so yeah, I'm sure they've heard the names, but

992
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:36.039
<v Speaker 3>that's all they know.

993
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:39.840
<v Speaker 1>That's all they know. You go to Kentucky right now

994
00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:41.880
<v Speaker 1>and go overad and watch them right now, and you

995
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:46.599
<v Speaker 1>can have fifteen of the greatest Kentucky basketball players ever

996
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:49.199
<v Speaker 1>played the game at the University Kentucky and they wouldn't

997
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:50.719
<v Speaker 1>know what they would know that one of them.

998
00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, we have talked about that, and Edwards took it

999
00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:57.719
<v Speaker 3>a step further, saying, you know, guys from that generation

1000
00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:00.800
<v Speaker 3>couldn't hang now, and Garnett came back, he said, I

1001
00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:04.519
<v Speaker 3>don't think anybody in this generation could have played twenty

1002
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:07.320
<v Speaker 3>years ago, so you're exactly to your point. It was

1003
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:10.960
<v Speaker 3>so much more physical. But Edwards, I think, just just

1004
00:57:11.039 --> 00:57:13.079
<v Speaker 3>trying to read between the lines, were saying because of

1005
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:17.199
<v Speaker 3>that style of ball, they couldn't hang with this generation

1006
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:20.199
<v Speaker 3>because this generation is more about the quick moves and

1007
00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:22.480
<v Speaker 3>three pointers, you know. And he made it sound like

1008
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:24.599
<v Speaker 3>it's better now, but it's not. I don't think.

1009
00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:28.559
<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine doctor j playing in a freedom of movement?

1010
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:28.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

1011
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:34.079
<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine that now? Can you imagine Michael Jordan

1012
00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:35.440
<v Speaker 1>playing the freedom of movement?

1013
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:40.000
<v Speaker 3>Edwards did say, with the exception of Michael Jordan, didn't

1014
00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:40.960
<v Speaker 3>even mention Coby.

1015
00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:44.000
<v Speaker 1>You know why, because he's the only person he knows.

1016
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:46.639
<v Speaker 1>That's true, because Michael Jordan is still relevant with his

1017
00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:49.559
<v Speaker 1>shoes and everybody's saying he's still the goat. That's the

1018
00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:52.159
<v Speaker 1>only thing he knows about Michael Jordan. He knows nothing

1019
00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:54.199
<v Speaker 1>else about Michael Jordan. Nobody else does.

1020
00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:56.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to keep an eye on this one because

1021
00:57:56.400 --> 00:58:01.679
<v Speaker 3>I love getting you riled up. You gotta that that

1022
00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:03.960
<v Speaker 3>cherubic face that you look like you're still in your

1023
00:58:04.039 --> 00:58:07.039
<v Speaker 3>thirties but you're not, but your old school man. That's

1024
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:08.400
<v Speaker 3>why I like getting you riled up.

1025
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, you know it's it's we're we're trying

1026
00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:21.159
<v Speaker 1>to cater to young people, so there's no guidance, there's

1027
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:25.440
<v Speaker 1>no setting examples anymore. You know, you got to walk

1028
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:27.800
<v Speaker 1>on eggshells with kids now, right now to even save

1029
00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:32.360
<v Speaker 1>your job. It's not it's you know, it's not the

1030
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:35.280
<v Speaker 1>parents anymore. It's the kids who's ruined the roost. And

1031
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:38.519
<v Speaker 1>even parents want to become friends with their kids instead

1032
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:42.119
<v Speaker 1>of being parents to them because of you know, these

1033
00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:45.880
<v Speaker 1>kids can't handle adversity. You know, they always go to

1034
00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:51.360
<v Speaker 1>uh mental states, to where they're they're mentally disturbed, and

1035
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:57.400
<v Speaker 1>soon somebody mentions that we back off. Well, we went

1036
00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:00.880
<v Speaker 1>through the same thing even worse, and yeah we have

1037
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:03.480
<v Speaker 1>sometimes we go sit in our room and cry and

1038
00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:06.519
<v Speaker 1>beat down and things like that. Yeah, but we came

1039
00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:09.880
<v Speaker 1>out of that room fighting, clawing and scratching to make

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00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:13.199
<v Speaker 1>our way in this world. Now, we gotta hold these

1041
00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:16.320
<v Speaker 1>kids' hands. As soon as they get depressed. We want

1042
00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:18.440
<v Speaker 1>to put them on medicine. We got to. We want

1043
00:59:18.440 --> 00:59:20.800
<v Speaker 1>to put them on watch to see if they're suicidal,

1044
00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:25.159
<v Speaker 1>if they have parents, Their parents are calling saying that

1045
00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you're not you're too tough on them, you know, verbal abuse,

1046
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:35.119
<v Speaker 1>so on and so forth. Well, where's the world being

1047
00:59:35.199 --> 00:59:38.360
<v Speaker 1>ready to come to? If that's the case, and this

1048
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:40.320
<v Speaker 1>is how we're raising young people anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Seanas is the unforgettable guard. We have him on each

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00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:46.480
<v Speaker 3>and every week. Coach, thank you so much. We'll talk

1051
00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:49.239
<v Speaker 3>to you again, all right, Dack. Western Buera Chief Gary

1052
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Moore is next here on six thirty wlap. Welcome back

1053
00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:55.480
<v Speaker 3>to the Big Bloma Cider. It is Wednesday, and that means,

1054
00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:59.159
<v Speaker 3>of course Western Bureau Chief Gary Moore joined us, how

1055
00:59:59.199 --> 01:00:03.440
<v Speaker 3>do you? And he has been spying on the world

1056
01:00:03.519 --> 01:00:06.480
<v Speaker 3>of sports, as he always does, and he's ready with

1057
01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:09.800
<v Speaker 3>a long list of observations.

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<v Speaker 9>Well at least six for our two guys in a

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01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:13.760
<v Speaker 9>six pack. And by the way, before we forget.

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01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Here, I'll be.

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01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:19.159
<v Speaker 9>Making one of my rare public appearances outside captivity a week.

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01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:23.519
<v Speaker 3>From today in your garage. How about that thing over there?

1063
01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:25.679
<v Speaker 3>I can't wait it in color? That's right.

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01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:30.239
<v Speaker 9>Well, I hope your Week zero wasn't a complete zero,

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01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:34.400
<v Speaker 9>because here we go Week one. Did Gabriel College football

1066
01:00:34.679 --> 01:00:36.679
<v Speaker 9>for you over there in the lex and over here

1067
01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:39.360
<v Speaker 9>for us in the Ville of First Saturday high noon

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01:00:40.280 --> 01:00:44.559
<v Speaker 9>U of L and FCSFO Austin p out of Clarksville, Tennessee.

1069
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:47.280
<v Speaker 9>It'll be on the ACC network. And then seven hours

1070
01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:49.719
<v Speaker 9>and forty five minutes later you'll be down there on

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01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:53.320
<v Speaker 9>the sideline when UK hosts Southern miss that's on the

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01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:57.599
<v Speaker 9>SEC network at seven forty five Saturday night. And if

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01:00:57.639 --> 01:00:59.599
<v Speaker 9>you were to ask me how I think the Cards

1074
01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:02.280
<v Speaker 9>and the Cab will do this season, I will quote

1075
01:01:02.320 --> 01:01:05.159
<v Speaker 9>a line from the uber eloquent Schultz from Hogan's Heroes.

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01:01:05.199 --> 01:01:08.159
<v Speaker 3>I know nothing. Yeah, thank you for not asking.

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01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:10.159
<v Speaker 9>I mean last year, did I think UK would have

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01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:13.199
<v Speaker 9>their second seven and six season in a row?

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<v Speaker 2>Nope?

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01:01:14.159 --> 01:01:16.000
<v Speaker 9>And did I think that UFL would be ten and

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01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:18.280
<v Speaker 9>one going into the Kentucky game?

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<v Speaker 3>Double Nope?

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01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:22.719
<v Speaker 9>But is Bill Parcells once worn? Comparing this year to

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01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:24.760
<v Speaker 9>last year in football is a fools game?

1085
01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Hey?

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01:01:26.079 --> 01:01:31.079
<v Speaker 9>Just ask Florida State, right, Well, I predict Louisville will

1087
01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:36.119
<v Speaker 9>be about seven and four, possibly eight and three when

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01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:38.679
<v Speaker 9>they come to Lexington November thirtieth, And I'm thinking UK.

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01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:40.719
<v Speaker 9>I was going down the list last night, who knows

1090
01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:44.559
<v Speaker 9>six and five? Maybe seven four as well?

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01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:47.719
<v Speaker 3>I've got them potentially eight. I don't know if they

1092
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:51.000
<v Speaker 3>can get to nine, but they can't. Kentucky just can't

1093
01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:54.599
<v Speaker 3>stumble through games it's supposed to win, which is what

1094
01:01:54.719 --> 01:01:57.519
<v Speaker 3>happened two or three times last year. Last year's team

1095
01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:00.760
<v Speaker 3>could have one, you know, you would have won eight,

1096
01:02:01.159 --> 01:02:03.079
<v Speaker 3>could have won nine or ten, that kind of thing.

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01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Louisville is a mystery to me simply because of the quarterback. Yeah,

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01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:11.360
<v Speaker 3>played for an ACC title last year, has some talent. Back,

1099
01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:15.960
<v Speaker 3>has a huge transfer class, but a quarterback, that's what

1100
01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:19.360
<v Speaker 3>in the seventh year and he's been injured every year. Yeah, yeah,

1101
01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:21.559
<v Speaker 3>so what do we know. We don't know anything. But

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01:02:21.880 --> 01:02:25.079
<v Speaker 3>last year Kentucky out played Louisville. You're a those home turf,

1103
01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:27.159
<v Speaker 3>but you got to throw that out the window because

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01:02:27.199 --> 01:02:30.400
<v Speaker 3>these are well, Louisville's entirely different and UK's got some

1105
01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:34.199
<v Speaker 3>new faces. Parsales was right. Yeah, a lot of football

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01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:35.320
<v Speaker 3>between now and then, though.

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<v Speaker 9>Absolutely our second swig speaking of that. Even before the

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01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:41.719
<v Speaker 9>Cats and the Cards kick off their seasons tomorrow night,

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01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:46.400
<v Speaker 9>my hometown Murray State Racers visit number eleven Missouri. Yeah,

1110
01:02:46.559 --> 01:02:50.320
<v Speaker 9>eight pm, SEC Network And at last glans Dick Missoo's

1111
01:02:50.400 --> 01:02:52.679
<v Speaker 9>a forty six and a half point favorite.

1112
01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:54.679
<v Speaker 3>It was forty eight.

1113
01:02:55.679 --> 01:02:59.559
<v Speaker 9>ESPN is giving the Tigers a ninety nine percent probability

1114
01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:03.440
<v Speaker 9>of a win over Murray, so they're saying there's As

1115
01:03:03.599 --> 01:03:08.039
<v Speaker 9>for other Kentucky programs, Morehead in Central State at six

1116
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<v Speaker 9>Tomorrow night up at the Jane Stadium. On Saturday, you

1117
01:03:11.800 --> 01:03:15.800
<v Speaker 9>got EKU at six o'clock visiting Mississippi State on ESPN Plus,

1118
01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:19.559
<v Speaker 9>and my alma mater, Western Kentucky gets to be the

1119
01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:23.280
<v Speaker 9>sacrificial feast for the Kaitlin Debor era era beginning at

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01:03:23.320 --> 01:03:27.880
<v Speaker 9>the seven o'clock Saturday night against Alabama on the ESPN mothership.

1121
01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:30.800
<v Speaker 9>It's on the main one National TV. Bama is a

1122
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:35.480
<v Speaker 9>thirty two point favorite and only a ninety seven percent probability,

1123
01:03:36.239 --> 01:03:38.639
<v Speaker 9>so they're saying there's a well, they're saying, there's one

1124
01:03:38.679 --> 01:03:40.559
<v Speaker 9>hundred percent chance that Western's going to get a one

1125
01:03:40.599 --> 01:03:41.960
<v Speaker 9>point nine million payout.

1126
01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:43.400
<v Speaker 3>That's for sure.

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01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:46.000
<v Speaker 9>I'm going to practice switching back and forth from the

1128
01:03:46.159 --> 01:03:50.360
<v Speaker 9>UK and WKU games on Saturday by Tomorrow night, switching

1129
01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:53.239
<v Speaker 9>back and forth between Murray and Missoo and the North

1130
01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:58.800
<v Speaker 9>Dakota State Bison at the Colorado Buffaloes game on ESPN,

1131
01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:01.320
<v Speaker 9>also at eight tomorrow night. Fun fact to know, Intel, Dick,

1132
01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:04.639
<v Speaker 9>did you know Colorado's mascot is in fact a bison

1133
01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:05.960
<v Speaker 9>and not a true buffalo?

1134
01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:08.800
<v Speaker 3>Wow? Did you know their coach is also.

1135
01:04:08.639 --> 01:04:11.920
<v Speaker 9>A man, a very small man who can't handle unflattering

1136
01:04:12.039 --> 01:04:15.960
<v Speaker 9>words about him since, as the athletics Jim Trotter says,

1137
01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:20.079
<v Speaker 9>Dion has the skin as thin as one ply toilet paper.

1138
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:25.239
<v Speaker 3>Go North Dakota State, And this guy was a world

1139
01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:28.159
<v Speaker 3>class defensive back. You're supposed to have a short memory,

1140
01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:31.760
<v Speaker 3>be able to get over problems and failures quickly, and

1141
01:04:31.880 --> 01:04:34.599
<v Speaker 3>things like that. Yeah, he's refused to talk to a

1142
01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:39.280
<v Speaker 3>columnists from the Denver newspaper. And you know he had

1143
01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:43.199
<v Speaker 3>problems with the local CBS affiliate because he didn't understand

1144
01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:46.920
<v Speaker 3>the difference between network and local affiliates. So yeah, Dion

1145
01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:49.519
<v Speaker 3>is he's making things tougher than he needs to.

1146
01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:51.880
<v Speaker 9>Well, the more you think these guys are tough guys,

1147
01:04:51.960 --> 01:04:54.000
<v Speaker 9>they're not. And we'll have another example of that later

1148
01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:57.599
<v Speaker 9>on our third twig in the six pack. Besides all

1149
01:04:57.679 --> 01:05:01.079
<v Speaker 9>those games, there's some huge matchups hitting two ranked teams

1150
01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:03.679
<v Speaker 9>against each other all week in Long Roll in that

1151
01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:06.679
<v Speaker 9>early season, Dice on noon Saturday, ABC.

1152
01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:07.440
<v Speaker 3>Are you ready?

1153
01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:11.599
<v Speaker 9>Number fourteen Clemson at number one Georgia. Well it's at Atlanta,

1154
01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:15.119
<v Speaker 9>so same deal. Georgia a thirteen and a half point favorite.

1155
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:19.039
<v Speaker 9>Last Check Saturday Night seven thirty. Also in ABC number

1156
01:05:19.079 --> 01:05:21.559
<v Speaker 9>seven Notre Dame at number twenty Texas A and M

1157
01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:23.719
<v Speaker 9>A and M is a three point favorite. Last check

1158
01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:26.480
<v Speaker 9>and another Saturday noon game. I know you're going to

1159
01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:30.199
<v Speaker 9>be especially interested in number eight Penn State at West Virginia. Yep,

1160
01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:34.039
<v Speaker 9>that'll be a barn burner on Sunday Night. Sunday Night

1161
01:05:34.559 --> 01:05:37.159
<v Speaker 9>seven thirty and ABC the lone college game. Number twenty

1162
01:05:37.199 --> 01:05:40.639
<v Speaker 9>three USC and number thirteen LSU not in La not

1163
01:05:40.760 --> 01:05:44.840
<v Speaker 9>in Baton Rouge, but in Vegas at that Allegiance Stadium

1164
01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:47.599
<v Speaker 9>dome thinging. LSU is currently a four and a half

1165
01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:52.039
<v Speaker 9>point favorite. And on Monday Night ESPN seven thirty, it's

1166
01:05:52.119 --> 01:05:56.519
<v Speaker 9>the road to either redemption or irrelevance as number ten

1167
01:05:56.960 --> 01:06:00.639
<v Speaker 9>until next week's first poll, Florida State hosting Boston College.

1168
01:06:01.159 --> 01:06:02.519
<v Speaker 9>And of course, by the way, you've heard the joke

1169
01:06:02.599 --> 01:06:05.280
<v Speaker 9>going around about Florida State suing the ACC to get

1170
01:06:05.320 --> 01:06:07.639
<v Speaker 9>out of the conference. Hey, after the Georgia Tech game,

1171
01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:10.400
<v Speaker 9>the ACC should be suing Florida State.

1172
01:06:10.599 --> 01:06:12.519
<v Speaker 3>Huh yeah, how about that?

1173
01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:17.960
<v Speaker 9>Uh? Out of Clemson, Uh, Georgia, Notre Dame A, and

1174
01:06:18.159 --> 01:06:21.719
<v Speaker 9>m USC at LSU. Which ranked team do you think

1175
01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:24.239
<v Speaker 9>has the most at stake? I would say Clemson maybe

1176
01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:25.360
<v Speaker 9>at this point I.

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01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:28.119
<v Speaker 3>Would say so, But you know what, the more I

1178
01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:33.400
<v Speaker 3>think about Georgia's situation, because Michigan's got a new head coach,

1179
01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:36.039
<v Speaker 3>the quarterback moved on, and all that. So how much

1180
01:06:36.119 --> 01:06:39.079
<v Speaker 3>pressure could there be on Michigan. There's always pressure, but

1181
01:06:39.239 --> 01:06:42.039
<v Speaker 3>to follow up as a national champ I doubt it.

1182
01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:47.920
<v Speaker 3>But Georgia was the team that failed put air quotes

1183
01:06:48.519 --> 01:06:51.840
<v Speaker 3>in the playoff last year, and now the question is

1184
01:06:51.880 --> 01:06:56.280
<v Speaker 3>can Georgia get back? So, minus Michigan's presence in the

1185
01:06:56.440 --> 01:06:59.920
<v Speaker 3>in the big pressure picture, I honestly think Georgia has

1186
01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:03.199
<v Speaker 3>got the most pressure, even more than Alabama for the

1187
01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:07.800
<v Speaker 3>same reason new QB new head coach Kirby Smart's coming back.

1188
01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:10.599
<v Speaker 3>Can he do it again? You mentioned the West Virginia

1189
01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:14.800
<v Speaker 3>Penn State game. That'll be great because there are adjacent states.

1190
01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:18.360
<v Speaker 3>For you geography majors, you know this, but it's not

1191
01:07:18.519 --> 01:07:21.119
<v Speaker 3>going to be like the Pittsburgh West Virginia game, which

1192
01:07:21.199 --> 01:07:25.119
<v Speaker 3>is a bitter rivalry, but West Virginia likes to prove

1193
01:07:25.199 --> 01:07:29.079
<v Speaker 3>itself against the likes of Penn State, so that could

1194
01:07:29.119 --> 01:07:33.079
<v Speaker 3>be that will be an incredibly intense game. There may

1195
01:07:33.159 --> 01:07:35.920
<v Speaker 3>be some smoking couches by the end of the weekend.

1196
01:07:37.119 --> 01:07:38.519
<v Speaker 3>Our fourth swig and the six pack.

1197
01:07:38.760 --> 01:07:41.440
<v Speaker 9>With the return of college football also comes to pregame shows,

1198
01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:44.760
<v Speaker 9>and this year you've already seen. The Worldwide Leader has

1199
01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:47.920
<v Speaker 9>added arguably the greatest college football coach of all time,

1200
01:07:48.280 --> 01:07:51.840
<v Speaker 9>Nick Saban, a guy who often bitched at and about

1201
01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:54.639
<v Speaker 9>the media on a regular basis, and now he's a

1202
01:07:54.679 --> 01:07:58.559
<v Speaker 9>purveyor of so called rat poison himself. And I'm okay

1203
01:07:58.840 --> 01:08:00.679
<v Speaker 9>for the most part with ESPN adding him, it's kind

1204
01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:02.239
<v Speaker 9>of a no brainer. And of course I got to

1205
01:08:02.239 --> 01:08:05.280
<v Speaker 9>bring back coach Corso when he's able, But you know,

1206
01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:08.000
<v Speaker 9>Dick Is, as much as I like his namesake show

1207
01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:12.039
<v Speaker 9>on the network, I can honestly do without Pat McAfee

1208
01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:15.559
<v Speaker 9>and his WWE whoops and hollers and cartoony carrying on

1209
01:08:15.719 --> 01:08:18.119
<v Speaker 9>no offense, Pat, wherever you are, it just needs that

1210
01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:21.359
<v Speaker 9>there's one too many seats at their football feast now,

1211
01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:24.439
<v Speaker 9>and that's even without their celebrity picker. I have no

1212
01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:27.319
<v Speaker 9>idea who Fox still has or have added to their

1213
01:08:27.359 --> 01:08:29.960
<v Speaker 9>pregame Yakfest, nor do I care. I never watched them anyway,

1214
01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:33.800
<v Speaker 9>especially Urban Myers around. But you see that's the problem

1215
01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:36.840
<v Speaker 9>for me anyway. Too many at the table, too many

1216
01:08:36.880 --> 01:08:41.239
<v Speaker 9>opinions and predictions and ex players posturing the process. It's exhausting.

1217
01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:44.039
<v Speaker 9>And that goes for the NFL shows too. We don't

1218
01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:48.399
<v Speaker 9>need five or six or sometimes seven four at the max. Okay,

1219
01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:49.039
<v Speaker 9>I'll sit down now.

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01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:52.399
<v Speaker 3>No, I couldn't agree more. And it was interesting to me.

1221
01:08:52.520 --> 01:08:56.159
<v Speaker 3>I wondered when this was gonna happen the NFL today

1222
01:08:56.239 --> 01:09:02.920
<v Speaker 3>on CBS axes Louisville native Phil Simms and Boomerasiacen the

1223
01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:06.359
<v Speaker 3>former Bengals QB in the off season. That was a

1224
01:09:06.600 --> 01:09:11.079
<v Speaker 3>table that was an anchor desk. It was way overcrowded, Yeah,

1225
01:09:11.119 --> 01:09:13.399
<v Speaker 3>because you got really smart people on there. But with

1226
01:09:13.960 --> 01:09:16.399
<v Speaker 3>you know, four, five, six, seven, A how them every

1227
01:09:16.479 --> 01:09:19.520
<v Speaker 3>many who gets a chance to talk? You know, how'd

1228
01:09:19.560 --> 01:09:23.399
<v Speaker 3>you like to be the producer trying to direct traffic

1229
01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:26.600
<v Speaker 3>on that show and make your director understand this guy,

1230
01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:28.640
<v Speaker 3>then that guy, then this guy than that guy. I

1231
01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:33.039
<v Speaker 3>mean after a while. My head was spinning with those egos.

1232
01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:34.800
<v Speaker 9>Welcome, he got to go first.

1233
01:09:35.119 --> 01:09:38.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got more yards than he did. They better

1234
01:09:38.159 --> 01:09:40.920
<v Speaker 3>not be complaining for the rings you got. How many

1235
01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:41.520
<v Speaker 3>rings you got?

1236
01:09:41.640 --> 01:09:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Huh?

1237
01:09:42.399 --> 01:09:44.680
<v Speaker 3>For the money they were making, you shouldn't even if

1238
01:09:44.720 --> 01:09:47.159
<v Speaker 3>you only get to talk for fifteen seconds. But back

1239
01:09:47.199 --> 01:09:49.960
<v Speaker 3>to your point about ESPN. Yeah, I'm not a huge

1240
01:09:50.039 --> 01:09:53.840
<v Speaker 3>MacAfee fan. I've listened to his podcast. I like it

1241
01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:57.880
<v Speaker 3>from time to time. It's overwhelming. At times, it's like, Buddy,

1242
01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:02.119
<v Speaker 3>I got another podcast to get to. But again, maybe

1243
01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:04.640
<v Speaker 3>if there weren't as many people on that anchor desk,

1244
01:10:05.520 --> 01:10:07.680
<v Speaker 3>he might have might be able to contribute more. But

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01:10:07.720 --> 01:10:08.399
<v Speaker 3>who will never know?

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01:10:10.119 --> 01:10:11.840
<v Speaker 9>Fifth swig and the six packs. So we got all

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01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:14.039
<v Speaker 9>that stuff in the coming days. But what about tonight?

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01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:14.840
<v Speaker 9>What about tonight?

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01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:16.000
<v Speaker 3>In sports? We're gonna do well.

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01:10:16.479 --> 01:10:18.840
<v Speaker 9>There's Game two of three between the Dodgers, who are

1251
01:10:18.920 --> 01:10:20.720
<v Speaker 9>tied with the Phillies with the best record in the

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01:10:20.760 --> 01:10:23.800
<v Speaker 9>Majors and the Orioles, who got the third best, and

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01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:26.680
<v Speaker 9>the Orioles won last night. Lexington's Walker Buehler starts for

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01:10:26.760 --> 01:10:29.359
<v Speaker 9>the Dodgers tonight, and how he does is going to

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01:10:29.439 --> 01:10:31.600
<v Speaker 9>decide if he gets any further starts since he's one

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01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:33.560
<v Speaker 9>to four on the season with a six point zho

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01:10:33.640 --> 01:10:35.439
<v Speaker 9>nine ERA, or maybe he's gonna go to the pen.

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01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:35.960
<v Speaker 3>Who knows.

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<v Speaker 9>That's a ten to ten pm start on MLB TV.

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01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:42.319
<v Speaker 9>I'm telling you watch out the Padres keep playing Mike

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01:10:42.399 --> 01:10:45.560
<v Speaker 9>Shilt or mc Cardinals. Manager's got him looking good now.

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01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:48.119
<v Speaker 9>Before that game, though, you got a chance to see

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01:10:48.159 --> 01:10:51.399
<v Speaker 9>Caitlin Clark and the Fever their next to last regular

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01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:53.880
<v Speaker 9>season game, their last home game before the playoffs, and

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01:10:53.880 --> 01:10:57.319
<v Speaker 9>against the number two team and the WNBA the Connecticut

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01:10:57.439 --> 01:11:00.439
<v Speaker 9>Son that's on NBA TV at s and I'm going

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01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:03.479
<v Speaker 9>to say it here and now, Caitlin Clark should be

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01:11:03.680 --> 01:11:06.920
<v Speaker 9>not only the Rookie of the Year. I say she

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01:11:06.960 --> 01:11:11.279
<v Speaker 9>should also be the WNBA MVP. And that twin win

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01:11:11.399 --> 01:11:14.319
<v Speaker 9>has only happened once before two thousand and eight, Cannas

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01:11:14.359 --> 01:11:17.199
<v Speaker 9>Parker got both Rookie of the Year at MVP. I

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01:11:17.319 --> 01:11:19.960
<v Speaker 9>ask you who is not only more valuable to their team,

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01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:23.680
<v Speaker 9>but to the league overall and to a fan base

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01:11:24.399 --> 01:11:27.840
<v Speaker 9>that has instantly grown, as have the TV ratings like

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01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:31.680
<v Speaker 9>never before. For example, ESPN says they're averaging one point

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01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:36.399
<v Speaker 9>two million viewers a game. They've increased viewership by one

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01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:40.199
<v Speaker 9>hundred and seventy seven percent from last year. Gee, what's

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01:11:40.239 --> 01:11:42.399
<v Speaker 9>the difference in that she should get both?

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01:11:42.439 --> 01:11:46.760
<v Speaker 3>In my opinion, Yeah, I'm not sure that at tendance

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01:11:46.800 --> 01:11:49.680
<v Speaker 3>figures and dollars signs should help lead to the MVP

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01:11:50.119 --> 01:11:53.880
<v Speaker 3>award more so than her performance on the court. But

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01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:57.159
<v Speaker 3>you can make an argument for both. Because when we

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01:11:57.319 --> 01:11:59.880
<v Speaker 3>were beginning to discuss Caitlin Clark early in the year,

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01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:03.479
<v Speaker 3>was you know what is happening to her? Is she

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01:12:03.640 --> 01:12:05.520
<v Speaker 3>not going to make the Olympic team. No, she did

1286
01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:07.800
<v Speaker 3>not wait and know that kind of thing. But since then,

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01:12:08.439 --> 01:12:10.600
<v Speaker 3>she has amped up her game to a level I

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01:12:10.640 --> 01:12:13.399
<v Speaker 3>didn't think would be possible her rookie year. I thought

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01:12:13.479 --> 01:12:15.880
<v Speaker 3>she'd get there in a couple three years when she

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01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:20.000
<v Speaker 3>put on some muscle. But she has adapted and adjusted

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01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:24.399
<v Speaker 3>like great players do. And people always wanted to make

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01:12:24.439 --> 01:12:27.720
<v Speaker 3>that comparison between her and Marriviag when it came to scoring. No,

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01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:31.439
<v Speaker 3>make the comparison between her and Marriviag when it comes

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01:12:31.479 --> 01:12:35.279
<v Speaker 3>to passing, right, because that is just a joy to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>So I can't argue too strongly against MVP rookie the year. Yeah,

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01:12:41.680 --> 01:12:45.199
<v Speaker 3>I think she has raised her level play and no

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01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:46.119
<v Speaker 3>question about that.

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<v Speaker 9>Sixth and final swig in the six pack. Dick, is

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01:12:50.119 --> 01:12:52.159
<v Speaker 9>not just the first week of college football. It's the

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01:12:52.319 --> 01:12:54.640
<v Speaker 9>first week of college for a lot of people. College

1301
01:12:55.239 --> 01:12:58.159
<v Speaker 9>the best fourteen years of my life. And our friends

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01:12:58.199 --> 01:13:01.479
<v Speaker 9>at niche dot com have comed ale the top party

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01:13:01.560 --> 01:13:04.920
<v Speaker 9>schools in America because they have that kind of time

1304
01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:07.800
<v Speaker 9>and apparently that kind of research, which I'm extremely envious of.

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01:13:07.960 --> 01:13:11.119
<v Speaker 9>So here we go, Top five, number five University of

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01:13:11.239 --> 01:13:16.079
<v Speaker 9>Southern California coming into five, Number four U mass at Amherst. Yeah,

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01:13:16.319 --> 01:13:20.079
<v Speaker 9>number three up I seventy five University of Cincinnati, Number

1308
01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:23.199
<v Speaker 9>two party school in the nation, Oklahoma where the SuDS

1309
01:13:23.239 --> 01:13:26.479
<v Speaker 9>come sweeping down the plane, and number one, the number

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01:13:26.520 --> 01:13:29.039
<v Speaker 9>one party school. I think they've been there before. You

1311
01:13:29.239 --> 01:13:32.720
<v Speaker 9>see Santa Barbara, which has rich kids from LA who

1312
01:13:32.760 --> 01:13:35.800
<v Speaker 9>couldn't get into UCLA or a Ford USC. But wait,

1313
01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:38.800
<v Speaker 9>what about us back here in the Bluegrass State, Dick,

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01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:41.960
<v Speaker 9>your alma mater is the highest ranking college in the

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01:13:42.159 --> 01:13:45.760
<v Speaker 9>in the survey. UK's number thirty six with an A

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01:13:46.039 --> 01:13:50.359
<v Speaker 9>plus rated party scene. UK has ranked lower this year

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01:13:50.399 --> 01:13:52.439
<v Speaker 9>since it's been on what ten years, since a sofa

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01:13:52.600 --> 01:13:54.039
<v Speaker 9>was sacrificed, I believe out there.

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01:13:54.119 --> 01:13:55.079
<v Speaker 3>So they got to work on that.

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<v Speaker 9>U of L is number seventy within just an a

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01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:03.279
<v Speaker 9>rated party scene in may Almah WKU number one eighty,

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01:14:04.279 --> 01:14:09.560
<v Speaker 9>apparently placing academics now over alcohol. Sad Because I don't

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01:14:09.560 --> 01:14:12.119
<v Speaker 9>know if you heard this, the urban legend had it

1324
01:14:12.319 --> 01:14:15.319
<v Speaker 9>years ago that Western was voted by Playboy magazine right

1325
01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:17.760
<v Speaker 9>as the number one you've heard this, but the number

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01:14:17.800 --> 01:14:20.439
<v Speaker 9>one party school in the nation somewhere around sixty nine

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01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:23.640
<v Speaker 9>seventy somewhere around there. And now look at us number

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01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:24.119
<v Speaker 9>one eighty.

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01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh, how the mighty have fallen. Gotta work harder, gotta

1330
01:14:28.600 --> 01:14:31.359
<v Speaker 3>play harder. We'll come back with it, Gary and some

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01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:33.399
<v Speaker 3>hot regions. Just a minute here on the big boom

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01:14:33.479 --> 01:14:38.159
<v Speaker 3>side or six thirty wlap. All right, we'll have about

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01:14:39.039 --> 01:14:41.720
<v Speaker 3>three and a half minutes. All right, welcome back with

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01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:43.920
<v Speaker 3>with the Western beer Chief Gary. More time for some

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01:14:44.079 --> 01:14:47.600
<v Speaker 3>hot reedson. Gary, you alluded to a coach with thin

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01:14:47.760 --> 01:14:52.199
<v Speaker 3>skin earlier. That would be Dabo Swiney. He took some

1337
01:14:52.399 --> 01:14:56.560
<v Speaker 3>flak on his radio show last year. Now, producers and

1338
01:14:56.600 --> 01:15:01.039
<v Speaker 3>whoever handles the show, they say only text questions for

1339
01:15:01.239 --> 01:15:04.279
<v Speaker 3>dabbo a guy who wants to stay in the kitchen

1340
01:15:04.319 --> 01:15:06.840
<v Speaker 3>where all the money is but still can't stand the heat.

1341
01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:09.199
<v Speaker 3>You ever faced something like that?

1342
01:15:09.760 --> 01:15:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1343
01:15:10.760 --> 01:15:14.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they things were getting tough on I can't remember.

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01:15:14.319 --> 01:15:18.079
<v Speaker 3>I might have been Tubby Smith here and one of

1345
01:15:18.119 --> 01:15:21.680
<v Speaker 3>the lower level network execs said, we just need to

1346
01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:24.600
<v Speaker 3>protect him, and the guy in charge, Tom Still said,

1347
01:15:24.880 --> 01:15:26.640
<v Speaker 3>we pay him a lot of money to take calls.

1348
01:15:26.680 --> 01:15:27.520
<v Speaker 3>That's what he's going to do.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, exact well, and he dabbles and dabbles, making what

1350
01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:34.000
<v Speaker 9>four point four million? And you can't sit there and

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01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:36.640
<v Speaker 9>listen to people and respond back.

1352
01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:39.000
<v Speaker 3>To that, you know what, You can screen calls anyway,

1353
01:15:39.079 --> 01:15:41.000
<v Speaker 3>But that's right. I mean, who wants to hear every

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01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:43.520
<v Speaker 3>week even after as coach you're doing a great job.

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01:15:43.880 --> 01:15:46.119
<v Speaker 9>You know, I did not know that Clemson had an

1356
01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:49.199
<v Speaker 9>invertebrate for a coach is brand new and mean, wow,

1357
01:15:49.840 --> 01:15:50.279
<v Speaker 9>who knew?

1358
01:15:50.720 --> 01:15:54.760
<v Speaker 3>There's just so many reasons to dislike him. But again,

1359
01:15:54.840 --> 01:15:56.399
<v Speaker 3>we talked about it last year. The guy who called

1360
01:15:56.479 --> 01:15:58.960
<v Speaker 3>him and ripped him missed the opportunity to say, coach,

1361
01:15:59.159 --> 01:16:02.640
<v Speaker 3>you're not taking transfers. You're far so far behind. So

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01:16:03.399 --> 01:16:06.039
<v Speaker 3>our second hot read is about a team that wants

1363
01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:10.960
<v Speaker 3>to change conferences apparently and might not be able to. Surprisingly,

1364
01:16:11.439 --> 01:16:14.439
<v Speaker 3>it's a powerful school at least right now, Yukon wants

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01:16:14.479 --> 01:16:19.000
<v Speaker 3>to be in a Big twelve. Fox TV says, I

1366
01:16:19.079 --> 01:16:22.359
<v Speaker 3>don't think so. Now. We keep hearing the network say,

1367
01:16:22.640 --> 01:16:25.600
<v Speaker 3>oh no, this stuff is not up to us. But

1368
01:16:25.800 --> 01:16:28.199
<v Speaker 3>Fox says, we just cut a big deal with the

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01:16:28.279 --> 01:16:32.119
<v Speaker 3>Big East. We don't want to lose Yukon men or women.

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<v Speaker 3>That's Gary. That's good business right there. It's great business.

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<v Speaker 9>And also you've got you know a lot of well

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01:16:38.600 --> 01:16:43.680
<v Speaker 9>where it's ESPN located in Connecticut, right, so that's in play.

1373
01:16:44.319 --> 01:16:47.800
<v Speaker 9>And also they share ESPN and Fox share Big twelve

1374
01:16:47.920 --> 01:16:51.479
<v Speaker 9>television rights as I understand it. So there's going to

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01:16:51.520 --> 01:16:53.600
<v Speaker 9>be some money involved somewhere, but it's not going to

1376
01:16:53.640 --> 01:16:55.319
<v Speaker 9>be up to athletic rate. It's up to the presidents

1377
01:16:55.359 --> 01:16:57.920
<v Speaker 9>of the schools. They run everything with the TV networks,

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01:16:58.279 --> 01:17:03.279
<v Speaker 9>So it depends on who the presidents are lounging around

1379
01:17:03.319 --> 01:17:03.920
<v Speaker 9>with these days.

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01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:05.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that'll happen or not. I hope

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01:17:05.399 --> 01:17:08.039
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't. The Big twelve, what do they have now?

1382
01:17:08.079 --> 01:17:11.239
<v Speaker 3>Eighteen teams, sixteen whatever it is you wonder about a

1383
01:17:11.319 --> 01:17:15.000
<v Speaker 3>boardroom with a Fox exec and a university president arm

1384
01:17:15.079 --> 01:17:18.840
<v Speaker 3>wrestling to see who goes where and what money goes where.

1385
01:17:18.880 --> 01:17:21.760
<v Speaker 3>But imagine being in the Big East right now without Yukon.

1386
01:17:22.600 --> 01:17:23.279
<v Speaker 3>That would be tough.

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01:17:24.079 --> 01:17:26.600
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and well, this is what it was, the university

1388
01:17:26.680 --> 01:17:30.880
<v Speaker 9>presidents that got USC and UCLA into the Big Ten.

1389
01:17:31.319 --> 01:17:33.880
<v Speaker 9>And we're talking with the networks about all the money

1390
01:17:34.319 --> 01:17:35.880
<v Speaker 9>we get into some of that if we come into

1391
01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:36.359
<v Speaker 9>the Big ten.

1392
01:17:36.399 --> 01:17:39.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, well we talked about it before Big Ten

1393
01:17:39.479 --> 01:17:41.880
<v Speaker 3>came to the rescue of SC and UCLA, which were

1394
01:17:42.239 --> 01:17:44.640
<v Speaker 3>hemorrhaging money. I don't think Yukon is, but I know

1395
01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:50.279
<v Speaker 3>that Danny Hurley would probably like a broader platform. Gary

1396
01:17:50.359 --> 01:17:53.119
<v Speaker 3>mars Our, West m Bureau Chief joins us every week.

1397
01:17:53.159 --> 01:17:56.359
<v Speaker 3>You can follow him on Twitter at at nine to

1398
01:17:56.439 --> 01:17:59.319
<v Speaker 3>five five. Gary, you're also there at the Blue Insider

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01:17:59.399 --> 01:18:02.079
<v Speaker 3>one next week here in the garage. I'll be there

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01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:04.640
<v Speaker 3>that I'll do it for now thanks to my guest

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01:18:04.720 --> 01:18:08.760
<v Speaker 3>Sean Woods, Tom Leech and Gary Moore. And remember Kentucky

1402
01:18:08.880 --> 01:18:12.920
<v Speaker 3>football coming up Saturday, five thirty airtime, seven forty five

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01:18:13.199 --> 01:18:16.159
<v Speaker 3>kickoff for the Cats and the Golden Eagles. That's it.

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01:18:16.279 --> 01:18:19.479
<v Speaker 3>Good night from the garage in Lexington. So am I

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01:18:19.560 --> 01:18:22.359
<v Speaker 3>to understand that you men completed your training on your own.

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01:18:22.680 --> 01:18:23.479
<v Speaker 1>That's the fact
