Speaker 1: Happy Memorial Day, almost to say Memorial Day.
Speaker 2: We are we're taking a break on Memorial Day and
Speaker 2: we're gonna.
Speaker 1: We're taking a point break, a point break this Memorial Day,
Speaker 1: and we.
Speaker 2: Are gonna re release an old episode. I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 2: gonna re edit it because now sometimes when I look
Speaker 2: back at the old episodes, I hear mistakes Erica, and
Speaker 2: they make me crazy.
Speaker 1: I bet they do. I bet they do.
Speaker 2: They make me crazy. So this is a new edit
Speaker 2: on the point, not new material, but it's a new
Speaker 2: edit of old material.
Speaker 1: Oh cool, Okay, thank you for doing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, It's a little.
Speaker 1: Summer treat for you all. I just all I remember,
Speaker 1: really is how much fun we had recording this episode.
Speaker 1: I don't really remember the episode itself very well.
Speaker 2: I remember, I believe. I'm not one hundred percent sure,
Speaker 2: but I think this is the first movie that we
Speaker 2: ever proclaimed to have everything.
Speaker 1: It has everything. I think is this also my first ten?
Speaker 2: Uh? No? I don't know, do you remember. I don't
Speaker 2: remember what I gave it.
Speaker 1: I definitely gave it a ten. I remember giving it
Speaker 1: a ten.
Speaker 2: See that I thought, I thought that we would have
Speaker 2: rated it really high. But then I was like, but
Speaker 2: it's a it's a basically all white sausage fest. Like,
Speaker 2: I'm guessing we've tried to make hay out of the
Speaker 2: fact that is fractionally Asian.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that count fault. I don't care. In awesomeness,
Speaker 1: it's a thousand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm guessing we gave it like a seven. And
Speaker 2: then but we're like, but guys, it's a twelve for enjoyment.
Speaker 1: I think I gave it a ten.
Speaker 2: You think you gave it a ten.
Speaker 1: I think I gave it. You probably gave it a seven.
Speaker 2: Okay, I remember, I'm I'm that's what I'm thinking. I said,
Speaker 2: like a seven, and then with caveats how awesome it is.
Speaker 2: But Eric, I do have a treat for you, because
Speaker 2: back in those days, we didn't talk about the movie's tagline.
Speaker 2: So would you like to know what the tagline for
Speaker 2: point Break was?
Speaker 1: Via condio?
Speaker 2: Sadly it was not, Ah, the tagline for point Break
Speaker 2: was twenty seven banks in three years, anything to catch
Speaker 2: the perfect wave.
Speaker 1: No, that's dumb.
Speaker 2: It's dumb. Now.
Speaker 1: Also, if you haven't already seen the movie, you're like, huh,
Speaker 1: huh huh. Although that is the energy you want to
Speaker 1: go into this movie with If I'm being honest, you
Speaker 1: want to come in with what what? Okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Sure, Wow. They couldn't possibly do more than one drop
Speaker 1: from an airplane.
Speaker 2: He's doing two.
Speaker 1: Here's two skydiving scenes.
Speaker 2: All right, everyone, Happy Memorial Day, enjoy point break.
Speaker 1: I am a summer FBI agent for psychic still a thing.
Speaker 2: I would love an explanation.
Speaker 1: I was walking down Bleeker the other day in the
Speaker 1: West Village and there is a psychic storefront on Bleeker
Speaker 1: in the West Vilag? Like, how who who pays these people?
Speaker 1: How much money do you have to make to maintain
Speaker 1: a business on Bleeker in the West Like the fucking
Speaker 1: gap had to close.
Speaker 2: You know what, because grifters get the job done.
Speaker 1: I guess. I mean a grift is a grift that
Speaker 1: is at to me that there are still like several
Speaker 1: high end locations in this city where there are fucking psychics.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will peer into your future.
Speaker 1: For one thousand dollars an hour.
Speaker 2: Have you ever had a psychic reading?
Speaker 1: Once? Yes, I was in New Orleans and like doing
Speaker 1: the touristy thing where like you pass someone who like
Speaker 1: does tarot card reading and I don't remember the reading.
Speaker 1: What I remember is the man who was doing the
Speaker 1: reading had all these like marks on his knuckles, like.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait wait wait wait, hang on, hang hang on,
Speaker 2: hang on, hang on, hang on. Hand a man was
Speaker 2: doing your tarot card reading. That is automatic disqualification.
Speaker 1: No, Paul, this is the twentieth first century. Men can
Speaker 1: do things. Now.
Speaker 2: I have never had my tarot cards read. But if
Speaker 2: I did and I walked into a tarot card shop
Speaker 2: and a man came out with a deck of cards,
Speaker 2: I would leave.
Speaker 1: You are disgusting. Men can do things to Paul. That's
Speaker 1: why we had the women's mark.
Speaker 2: I have never met people more obtuse and unable to
Speaker 2: view the future than men.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. The guy had these like tattoos on
Speaker 1: his knuckles, and like, while he's shuffling the cards or whatever,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's the what are those tattoos? And he's like,
Speaker 1: that's one for every year I was in prison.
Speaker 3: Oh hey, I'm Paul America, and this is that aged.
Speaker 1: Well, yesterday's pop culture today.
Speaker 2: Tonight after a glass of wine would be more accurate
Speaker 2: for this one.
Speaker 1: That's right, it is nighttime.
Speaker 2: In Brooklyn, and we have both had some wine.
Speaker 1: And this is the greatest movie we have ever discussed,
Speaker 1: so it's perfect, Paul, what film are we covering today?
Speaker 1: Point Break nineteen ninety one's point fucking Break.
Speaker 2: An American action film directed by.
Speaker 1: Hi Catherine big Ala.
Speaker 2: Future Oscar Award winner for Best Director, the only woman
Speaker 2: to ever win that award. Hey, listeners, future Paul here again.
Speaker 2: This was recorded in twenty nineteen. What I just said
Speaker 2: was accurate at the time, but you know since then.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the club, Chloe Ja Chloe Joao. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure to say her last name. Welcome to the club,
Speaker 2: Jane Campion. Love that Catherine Bigelow was not alone here
Speaker 2: any longer. And place your bets on how many of
Speaker 2: these I'm gonna have to do in the course of
Speaker 2: this episode. All right, back to the show, Catherine Bigelow.
Speaker 1: However, air horns sound, I can't do them.
Speaker 2: I was making a fireworks out.
Speaker 1: I was doing the air hoorn, but that's not right.
Speaker 2: Point Break was written by W. Peter Eiliff. It stars
Speaker 2: Patrick Swayzee, Keanu Reeves, Lori Petty, and Gary Busey.
Speaker 1: I mean, has a better trio, has a better quartet
Speaker 1: of actors ever? Been listening. I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: This is this is a true for the ages.
Speaker 2: I love Patrick Swayze, but when he is the best
Speaker 2: actor in your movie, that might not be the best thing.
Speaker 1: No, or is it? Is it the best thing?
Speaker 2: Because he is significantly better than these other reactors?
Speaker 1: Shut your dirty face, Shut up, Gary Busey is perfect.
Speaker 1: There was a remake Up Point Break, released in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: I didn't see it, did you?
Speaker 2: I didn't, but I read up on it. It got some
Speaker 2: very negative reviews. Oh it has a ten percent critical
Speaker 2: rating and a twenty nine percent audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's bad.
Speaker 1: I mean, this movie doesn't need a remake. No, No,
Speaker 1: movie is already it. It doesn't need to reach you
Speaker 1: know what.
Speaker 2: This movie needs a re release in theaters. I would
Speaker 2: go see this movie in.
Speaker 1: IMAX one hundred percent. Yeah, okay. The film was nearly
Speaker 1: produced in nineteen eighty six, with Ridley Scott directing. Actually,
Speaker 1: that could have been really good too. Matthew broad Rick, No,
Speaker 1: Johnny Depp, Val Kilmer, and Charlie Sheen were all reportedly
Speaker 1: considered for Johnny Utah. Val Kilmer actually Kilmer could play
Speaker 1: the Patrick swayzey role.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he could do either one.
Speaker 1: He could do either one. He's actually excellent. Other potential
Speaker 1: titles for the film include Johnny Utah and Writers on
Speaker 1: the Storm, both excellent.
Speaker 2: I would have watched both.
Speaker 1: This movie should have been called point break colon Writers
Speaker 1: on the Storm colin exclamation point.
Speaker 2: The film was nominated for three MTV Movie Awards is prestigious,
Speaker 2: including Best Action Sequence for the second jump out of
Speaker 2: the Plane and Most Desirable Male for both Keanu Reeves
Speaker 2: and Patrick Swayzee, which Reeves won.
Speaker 1: Okay, I have to admit I haven't seen an MTV
Speaker 1: Movie Award in quite some time. Is there still a
Speaker 1: Most Desirable Male?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: That seems old timing to me.
Speaker 2: But I mean, we did Cruel Intentions and they won
Speaker 2: Best Kiss, so that.
Speaker 1: Was that I get though. Yeah, most desirable it's.
Speaker 2: It's not like it's also mail. Not man, it's.
Speaker 1: Also just the way it's it's most desirable mail sounds
Speaker 1: like something your grandmother would say to you about, like, oh, I.
Speaker 2: Signed most desirable mail in your great.
Speaker 1: Hi, I find him the most desirable.
Speaker 2: Okay, listeners, it's me again. Future Paul here. I can't
Speaker 2: believe we didn't do a deeper dive into this when
Speaker 2: we had the chance the MTV Movie Award for Most
Speaker 2: Desirable Mail just to teaser, we're going to get into
Speaker 2: this in the next Patreon episode. Everyone, if you want
Speaker 2: to hear about it, sign up for the Patreon. This
Speaker 2: is excellent stuff. Okay, back to the show.
Speaker 1: In two thousand and three, a theatrical production called Point
Speaker 1: Break Live premiered. Each performance features an audience member in
Speaker 1: the role of Johnny Utah, who reads his or her
Speaker 1: lines off of laminated cards and is led around by
Speaker 1: a stage crew member. Paul, guess what, Yeah, I saw
Speaker 1: you did? I did oh at a theater in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2: How was it?
Speaker 1: It was hilarious?
Speaker 2: Was it because it's a spoof?
Speaker 1: The dude, the dude who did Gary Busey was like, perfect, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's all I really remember. It's a spoof. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like it's one of those silly Yeah, it's actually I
Speaker 1: saw it before I saw the movie, okay, which was
Speaker 1: but still fucking funny as hell.
Speaker 2: Point Break has a sixty nine percent critical rating on
Speaker 2: Rotten Tomatoes and a seventy nine percent audience.
Speaker 1: Audience score should be one hundred.
Speaker 2: One hundred and ten hundred. They should have broken the meter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they should have broken the internet. Come the fuck on.
Speaker 1: Sixty nine is perfect?
Speaker 2: Sixty nine is perfect. I am not as in love
Speaker 2: with the movie as you.
Speaker 1: You're wrong.
Speaker 2: I love it. I've actually think this might be one
Speaker 2: where I wind up loving it more at the end
Speaker 2: of this than I do right now. But I would say,
Speaker 2: like a solid ninety percent on the audience score is
Speaker 2: correct a hundred.
Speaker 1: Name a more entertaining movie than this one. You can't
Speaker 1: You fucking can't.
Speaker 2: The Lost Boys no answer to everything.
Speaker 1: This is better, This is more. This is a more
Speaker 1: entertaining film than The Lost Boys. I stand by.
Speaker 2: That podcast over there.
Speaker 1: It's also very gay.
Speaker 2: Paul, Well, you don't have to tell me that it
Speaker 2: could have been gayer, and we're gonna get into how
Speaker 2: it could have.
Speaker 1: Been it could have been gayer, all right, Paul, When
Speaker 1: did you first see the genius at his point break?
Speaker 2: I first saw this movie twenty four hours ago.
Speaker 1: And have you have you been changed forever? Has your
Speaker 1: molecular structure been totally altered by the experience?
Speaker 2: You know what? My biggest takeaway from it was was
Speaker 2: a I love Patrick Swaythey but b Keanu Reeves has
Speaker 2: had this like keynnaissance over the laste last like a
Speaker 2: year or so. And he's just like truly one of
Speaker 2: the most beloved performers in Hollywood. Like no one has
Speaker 2: a bad thing to say about him. He's apparently just
Speaker 2: a really truly wonderful person. Gee but love Yeah, and
Speaker 2: I forgot how bad of an actor he is. She is.
Speaker 2: I mean, you should do a double header with this
Speaker 2: in Showgirls like that. It's that level of like what
Speaker 2: the fuck is going on at certain points. We're gonna
Speaker 2: get to the synopsis soon, and the synopsis is perfect.
Speaker 1: I can't fucking wait. We'll talk more about Cannu later.
Speaker 2: When did you first see the movie?
Speaker 1: So weirdly, not when it came out, not even when
Speaker 1: I was a teenager, not even when I was I
Speaker 1: think I was like thirty.
Speaker 2: I think that maybe actually been the perfect time for
Speaker 2: you to have seen it.
Speaker 1: Because what happened was a friend was visiting from out
Speaker 1: of town. She was staying at my house. I was
Speaker 1: in the shower, I came out of the shower. She
Speaker 1: is watching Point Break on my TV, and I'm like
Speaker 1: is this that movie about the surfers? And she was like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, have you never seen Point Break? And I
Speaker 1: was like no, and She's like, you would fucking love
Speaker 1: this movie. And I like recorded her to something and
Speaker 1: I watched it by myself on like a Sunday afternoon,
Speaker 1: and by the end, I was standing up from the
Speaker 1: couch like yelling at the TV and I was.
Speaker 2: Like, I love this movie. It inspired you, it lifted
Speaker 2: you to your feet.
Speaker 1: It is cardiovascular activity for me watching this movie.
Speaker 2: It is a true standing ovation.
Speaker 1: Truly, I feel like Stefan when I'm talking about this movie.
Speaker 1: This movie has everything. We'll get into that later, but
Speaker 1: like she, I bless that friend, because she's right, this
Speaker 1: is my kind of movie. And so I saw at
Speaker 1: that time. I hadn't seen it again though since yesterday,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I watched it second time yesterday. Paul
Speaker 1: I was the one who did the like synopsis breakdown
Speaker 1: for us this time. Normally I can watch the movie
Speaker 1: and just type as I'm watching it. It took me
Speaker 1: three hours to watch this movie because I refuse to
Speaker 1: look down from the screen. I had to pause it
Speaker 1: to like write my notes and write what's happening and
Speaker 1: then like start up again. And then at one point
Speaker 1: my roommate walks in and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you have to watch this movie. Guys. Watch point break. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, this is a really short episode. Just
Speaker 1: watch a point break ten out of ten?
Speaker 2: Bye? Oh? Do you have an actual synopsis for the movie?
Speaker 1: I do? Actual synopsis? Is this movie is perfect?
Speaker 2: You guys? I think Erica likes the movie. Listeners, I
Speaker 2: have a spoiler. Erica likes the movie.
Speaker 1: What's the synopsis? What's the actual iTunes synopsis?
Speaker 2: Oh right, Oh, I forgot to read that part. Okay,
Speaker 2: iTunes synopsis. Keanu Reeves and Patrick Swayze Star and the
Speaker 2: NonStop action thriller about an FBI agent lured by the
Speaker 2: Rush when he goes undercover to unmask a band of
Speaker 2: thrill seeking surfers who rob banks to fund their addiction
Speaker 2: to pulling off the most daring score, surviving the greatest danger,
Speaker 2: and riding the biggest wave. Point break, mic drop. That
Speaker 2: is one sentence.
Speaker 1: You're right, it is. That's how the movie feels, though.
Speaker 1: It is like someone took a deep breath and just
Speaker 1: started talking and didn't stop for two hours.
Speaker 2: This is the best synopsis we have ever encountered, because
Speaker 2: it's also just bad English, which also works at the movie.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, yep, yep, yep, yep. It's got everything. It's
Speaker 1: got FBI agents, it's got undercover, undercover cops.
Speaker 2: Thrill seeking surfers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Rob Banks, Banks, addiction to pulling off.
Speaker 2: Scores, surviving great dangers.
Speaker 1: I'd love it. This movie is perfect. All right, stick around.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about point fucking.
Speaker 2: Break and we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back. We're gonna talk point break.
Speaker 2: We sure are. I think I might be. I might
Speaker 2: be more of an audience member of this one. Erica
Speaker 2: can't sit still. She's like wiggling in her seat like
Speaker 2: someone is tickling her.
Speaker 1: It's the memory of the movie tickling me.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So this movie opens on a slow motion shot of
Speaker 1: people surfing at dawn. It's ecstatic, it's almost spiritual.
Speaker 2: Sounds like you're joking, but it really is. The shots
Speaker 2: of people surfing in the ocean in this movie are
Speaker 2: genuinely stunning.
Speaker 1: Genuinely so. Catherine Bigelow is a legit director. Yeah, she's
Speaker 1: She's made some silly movies, this this being the pinnacle of.
Speaker 2: Her sing one of them, but like she.
Speaker 1: Still brings her a game. She's like, I know how
Speaker 1: to tell a story. I know good structure. I know
Speaker 1: how to get you to like all the characters, even
Speaker 1: the bad ones. I know about a charismatic villain. I
Speaker 1: know about cinematography, like the movie's beautiful top to bottom.
Speaker 1: So juxtaposed with those like slow motion shots of like
Speaker 1: surfers are like images of Keanu Reeves in the rain
Speaker 1: at Quantico.
Speaker 2: Not in the rain in a downpour any months suit.
Speaker 1: So we're getting at here is Keanu Reeves in a
Speaker 1: wet T shirt and like slicked back hair looking hot
Speaker 1: as fuck? Yeah he really does at Quantico. At like
Speaker 1: marksmanship training the FBI, he gets one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: But the marksmanship training he has to shoot these like
Speaker 2: cardboard cutouts that they look like like characters in a carnival.
Speaker 2: Like this can't be what Quantico training looks like?
Speaker 1: What if it is?
Speaker 2: It looks like he's shooting character from the children's game
Speaker 2: Guess who.
Speaker 1: They're all bad guys. You all deserve to get shot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he gets on.
Speaker 2: So we know that Johnny Utah is a good marksman.
Speaker 1: We do know that, and we also show his name
Speaker 1: is Johnny Utah.
Speaker 2: Not John Utah, not Jonathan.
Speaker 1: Utah, not Jonathan Taylor Utah, Johnny Utah. This is a
Speaker 1: movie with a character who's a main character is unronically
Speaker 1: named Johnny Utah, who is ironically from Ohio and who
Speaker 1: is a quarterback, like a star athlete from college football,
Speaker 1: and all the other characters recognize him when they see
Speaker 1: him because he was like what was his name, Johnny
Speaker 1: Manziel or whatever.
Speaker 2: Like like Johnny unitas college quarterbacks. Yeah, hey, listeners, me again,
Speaker 2: Future Paul. I think this is the last one in
Speaker 2: this episode. I was just thinking about the fact that
Speaker 2: we have Johnny Utah who is canonically a football quarterback,
Speaker 2: and that relates to bo both Charlie Baltimore from Long Kiss,
Speaker 2: good Night for the naming convention and also Flash Gordon
Speaker 2: of Flash Gordon for the quarterbacking. And what an amazing
Speaker 2: movie we would have if Charlie Baltimore and Johnny Utah
Speaker 2: and Flash Gordon teamed up to save the world. Okay,
Speaker 2: back to the show, all right.
Speaker 1: Then we next joined Johnny on his first day at
Speaker 1: the FBI's la Field office. We meet his director, Ben Harp, played.
Speaker 2: By John C.
Speaker 1: Mcinley, who you might know from Scrubs. He was the
Speaker 1: I can't remember the character's name, the mean doctor on Scrubs.
Speaker 2: Dude, doctor Cox.
Speaker 1: Well done, my friend, thank you. Harp is showing him around.
Speaker 1: He's warning him that he doesn't care for guff. He
Speaker 1: doesn't care for people going off on their own, no
Speaker 1: renegades in his field. He likes data, he likes good
Speaker 1: investigative work. They run the Bank Robbery Division. La County
Speaker 1: has the most bank robberies of anywhere in the world,
Speaker 1: over thirteen hundred and last year alone.
Speaker 2: Go big or go home is what you say.
Speaker 1: And for some reason, he immediately hates Johnny. Everyone hates
Speaker 1: him the second they meet.
Speaker 2: Him, and like you've given a hint that he's kind
Speaker 2: of like an arrogant dick, but like he's actually not
Speaker 2: acting like that to anybody. It's like when they walk away,
Speaker 2: he makes like an Erican comment. But why does everyone
Speaker 2: hate this guy? He looks like Keanu Reeves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they keep calling him a blue flame, a blue
Speaker 1: flame from Quantico. Listen, kid, I don't care about your
Speaker 1: hot shot Quantico Quantico training here, You're just nobody. You're
Speaker 1: lower than low at the investigative office in La so
Speaker 1: Harp is a total dick. This will come back later
Speaker 1: in the film. It will also his dickishness makes him
Speaker 1: the worst FBI agent. We're gonna talk about that later.
Speaker 2: So we meet Johnny's partner, Angelo Pappis now Erica. When
Speaker 2: you hear the name Angelo Pappis, yep, do you perhaps
Speaker 2: picture someone Mediterranean and.
Speaker 1: Al Pacino perhaps, Yeah, Joe Peshi.
Speaker 2: Something like that, A DeNiro, A Paul Sorvino, Yes.
Speaker 1: Paul who plays Angelo Pappus in this film. Gary Busey,
Speaker 1: Gary fucking Bucy.
Speaker 2: This is another And so now we're at another FBI
Speaker 2: training session. Although this is not a quantico. This is
Speaker 2: just training that the agents have to do. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: they have to dive into a pool blindfolded and retrieve
Speaker 2: bricks from the bottom of the pool.
Speaker 1: Yep, what is the purpose? What's funny is even the
Speaker 1: character in the movie is like, well, I do bank robberies.
Speaker 2: Why the fuck do I have to do this?
Speaker 1: I understand why I have to learn this at all.
Speaker 1: Is it an excuse to have Gary Busey and in
Speaker 1: his bathing suit because I don't need it. I'm fine
Speaker 1: with that. I don't need that either. So, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: introduced to Johnny. He doesn't realize Johnny is his partner
Speaker 1: yet and he's like, Ah, I'm getting some new shit
Speaker 1: fucking ar blah blah blah blahah partner, some asshole from Quantico.
Speaker 1: And Johnny's like, yeah, that sounds terrible. And then someone's like, oh, hey, Papas,
Speaker 1: I see you met your new partner Johnny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he takes off the blindfold e man. So we
Speaker 2: cut to a bank robbery. It's midday and it's four
Speaker 2: men and they're all wearing suits and the masks of
Speaker 2: ex presidents. They're Reagan, Nixon, Johnson, and Carter.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this because if they in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: when they remade the movie where they, I guess it
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been in this one yet, but like it
Speaker 1: would have been like Trump, Obama, George W. Bush and
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, which just makes the whole thing a lot
Speaker 1: weirder and sadder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so these guys are pros. They're in and out,
Speaker 2: they avoid all the traps. The guy playing Nixon takes
Speaker 2: the time to actually do a Nixon impersonation.
Speaker 1: Yes, that shows a professional. Yeah, that's shows someone who
Speaker 1: cares about the character.
Speaker 2: Development, takes his job seriously.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of the character he's portraying. Yeah, they're in and
Speaker 1: out in ninety seconds. They know to avoid the die packs.
Speaker 1: They never hit the vault. They only hit the cash
Speaker 1: registers because they're not greedy. They're just trying to get
Speaker 1: in and out. So these robbers have been foiling the
Speaker 1: FBI for three years. They've hit twenty seven banks in
Speaker 1: three years. There's no leads, No one has any idea
Speaker 1: who these four are.
Speaker 2: Is there any example in modern times of like a
Speaker 2: crew of bank robbers being this successful.
Speaker 1: Not that I don't even know of bank robberies.
Speaker 2: No, me either.
Speaker 1: I feel like they don't even make the news if
Speaker 1: they even happen anymore. Has there been a bank robbery
Speaker 1: in the last decade.
Speaker 2: There must have been, I just haven't heard of it
Speaker 2: me either.
Speaker 1: It's not even like on my top one hundred fears.
Speaker 1: I guess it is over ATMs now caught in a
Speaker 1: bank robbery.
Speaker 2: So as they're leaving, Nixon bends over moons the hostages
Speaker 2: thank you on each thanking you on his cheeks. Yes,
Speaker 2: butt report, Uh huh, it's a good butt.
Speaker 1: It's a fine butt.
Speaker 2: Good spring back, yep, spring back. The clapping gets a
Speaker 2: nice ripple going.
Speaker 1: Also, they do have a close up of it later
Speaker 1: because it's a freeze frame at the FBI office.
Speaker 2: As I'm looking at the footage and you can't not
Speaker 2: see his butthole.
Speaker 1: This movie has everything. It even has Buttholes, has Gary Busey,
Speaker 1: it has Keanu Reeves, it has Buttholes, It has Jimmy
Speaker 1: Carter masks. All right. So, so after the robbery. Post robbery,
Speaker 1: we're at the bank, Papas is downloading Johnny on like
Speaker 1: who who this gang is and the fact that they've
Speaker 1: been foiling the FBI for three years, and the other
Speaker 1: FBI agents that are there are kind of like ribbing
Speaker 1: Pappis because he apparently has some theory as to who
Speaker 1: these people are. And they're like, you're such a fucking
Speaker 1: idiot for having a theory and being a cup I
Speaker 1: hate you. He suck everyone in this movie because he
Speaker 1: hates everyone on contact. It's so ridiculous. He's like, how
Speaker 1: dare you try to do your job, you asshole. So
Speaker 1: after they hit the bank, they dumped the car, the
Speaker 1: getaway car on Mulholland Drive, and Johnny volunteers him and
Speaker 1: Papas to go look at the getaway car. Papas is
Speaker 1: annoyed as fuck. He's like, I just want to go home,
Speaker 1: Like we're never gonna catch these guys. Their ghosts. Don't
Speaker 1: forget about it. Man, it's Chinatown. And Ken's like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I know you're dead inside, but I'm not. I'm Keanu Reeves.
Speaker 1: I'm wide eyed and hopeful about the world right and
Speaker 1: I would actually like to do my fucking job. And
Speaker 1: he kind of riles up Papus. He calls him like
Speaker 1: a washed up Vietnam vet, which I forgot was a
Speaker 1: thing you could say to someone in the eighties, which
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like it's okay to say that, but they
Speaker 1: want to.
Speaker 2: They start screaming at each other, like this is a
Speaker 2: full dick swinging contest. And we are seven minutes into
Speaker 2: this movie. We've already had a butthole, We've already in
Speaker 2: bead of robbery. This movie is throwing everything at the
Speaker 2: wall to see what stick.
Speaker 1: But also like they've known each other for four hours
Speaker 1: at this point, like and they're just already fucking screaming
Speaker 1: at each other. It's like the FBI office is run
Speaker 1: by prison rules. You just beat someone up on the
Speaker 1: first day.
Speaker 2: If one of them was a woman, they would fuck
Speaker 2: by the end of this movie.
Speaker 1: A hundred percent. By the end of the scene, perhaps ye.
Speaker 1: So Johnny riles up Papus enough to get him to
Speaker 1: like him. Suddenly he's like, all right, can't I see
Speaker 1: what you're doing? And I like your moxie. So they
Speaker 1: become friendly and he's like, all right, so tell me
Speaker 1: your theory. I know the other cops are dismissive of
Speaker 1: your theory, but what is your theory? And Pappus is
Speaker 1: like their surfers. And at first Johnny's like, Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: you're stupid and old, and he's like, no, no, listen
Speaker 1: to listen to the facts. And there are this compelling
Speaker 1: evidence there was surf wax found in one of the
Speaker 1: crime scenes. There's tan lines on the met you can
Speaker 1: see through the masks enough to see some tan lines
Speaker 1: also on the butt cheeks.
Speaker 2: On the butt cheeks, that's what the tandline he's referring to.
Speaker 2: That's that's when we get the butthole. Look at this
Speaker 2: tan line. I'm like, how can I look at the
Speaker 2: tan line when that thing is winking at me?
Speaker 1: Like giving me the old brown wink. Yeah, and these
Speaker 1: robberies follow like a geographical pattern that surfers follow, like
Speaker 1: itinerant surfers that go up and down the coast depending
Speaker 1: on where like the good surf is.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So that's why he has a theory that these are
Speaker 1: surfers like a gang. And Johnny's like, you know what compelling,
Speaker 1: let's do this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So they decide they're going to send Johnny undercover.
Speaker 2: We know he's an ex quarterback, he's very athletic. They
Speaker 2: figure he'll be able to learn how to.
Speaker 1: Surf twenty five years old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he goes and he buys a surfboard from
Speaker 2: an insufferable child.
Speaker 1: It's baby Kristin Stewart, right, that is, that's actually not
Speaker 1: actually but that kid looks so much like baby Christin Stewart.
Speaker 2: I saw a Kulkin, but I can see Kristin stew like.
Speaker 1: Like a Stuart Culkin hybrid. Yeah, created in the lab
Speaker 1: out on the paramount lot.
Speaker 2: PAPIs just tells him about their surf tribe. So like
Speaker 2: basically there are groups of guys who surf together and
Speaker 2: they kind of stick to their own group.
Speaker 1: Yes, and they all have like different, like almost gangs,
Speaker 1: Like they have different personalities. You can't just walk up
Speaker 1: to the beach and like try to be friends with them.
Speaker 1: You have to break into the crowd. So a couple
Speaker 1: of exchanges at the surf shop, the little kid is like,
Speaker 1: it is so nice that you're trying something new at
Speaker 1: your age, at your advanced age, and Keanu Reyes is like,
Speaker 1: I'm twenty five, and then he starts to surf and
Speaker 1: he's terrible at it. He's like almost breaks his neck.
Speaker 1: When I was twenty five, Paul, what did you try surfing?
Speaker 2: Did you really?
Speaker 1: And it's so hard?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so so hard.
Speaker 1: I never felt more seen by a movie. I was like, no,
Speaker 1: get out of the water.
Speaker 2: You really are too old for this.
Speaker 1: You if you haven't learned it by now, it's too late.
Speaker 1: Have you ever tried surfing?
Speaker 2: I haven't. Every every summer my nephews go and they
Speaker 2: take lessons and they see if I want to go,
Speaker 2: and I'm always like no, it's so very difficult.
Speaker 1: The boards are heavy, oh yeah, and so like your
Speaker 1: arms get tired and then you have to it's like
Speaker 1: skateboarding on water. You have to have enough balance to
Speaker 1: stay out. I found it to be impossible, so I
Speaker 1: was like, yes, I understand this movie on another level.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So he's trying to surf. He basically almost drowns
Speaker 2: because he's just trying. He doesn't get any lessons or anything.
Speaker 2: He just goes out there to try to do it,
Speaker 2: and he's saved by Tyler played by Lori Petty.
Speaker 1: Yep, the romantic interest in this film is Lori Petty.
Speaker 2: Lori Petty has this weird energy that really works for
Speaker 2: some things and really doesn't work in others. And I
Speaker 2: can't tell if it works in this or not.
Speaker 1: I kind of think it does.
Speaker 2: I'm leaning towards it does, because the whole movie is
Speaker 2: so bizarre that the fact that she's like always on
Speaker 2: the upbeat rather than the downbeat, it kind of works. Yes, Like,
Speaker 2: and she also from a certain angle, she has her
Speaker 2: hair chopped really short and it's dyed black and it
Speaker 2: makes her eyes pop. And from a certain angle she
Speaker 2: looks just like Courton Cox.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. She's also it's a quirky choice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I like it, Like they could have gone with
Speaker 1: like a blonde bombshell or like a beach bunny or
Speaker 1: and she.
Speaker 2: Does look strong which is nice.
Speaker 1: She looks like a tomboy. Yeah, and I think she
Speaker 1: does an excellent job in the movie. I think she's
Speaker 1: very convincing. Yeah, but you're right, her energy is weird.
Speaker 1: Kanu reeves also energy. It's like a whole group of
Speaker 1: actors who have weird fucking energy, and none of them
Speaker 1: are on the same wavelength the whole movie.
Speaker 2: Everyone's going off in their own direction, being like I
Speaker 2: got this, follow me, guys, guys, hey, hey, where's everyone? All?
Speaker 1: Read one one word of the script and they're like done.
Speaker 2: I got it, surfing them in. So she yells at
Speaker 2: in for being a reckless newbie. She leaves him on
Speaker 2: the shore, but he gets her license plate and he
Speaker 2: tracks her and he's trying to figure out a way
Speaker 2: to get in with her. Basically, yes, and he finds
Speaker 2: out that both of her parents died in a plane
Speaker 2: crash when she was twenty.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: His reaction to this is got it, got it.
Speaker 1: I know, it's very cop like.
Speaker 2: It is real weird.
Speaker 1: It's very like he's a cop, right, and so he's
Speaker 1: like just doing what he has to do to get
Speaker 1: get shit done. It's intense and like cutthroat. Also here
Speaker 1: quick I'm gonna do it with a quick thank you
Speaker 1: to the actress who plays the FBI data analyst in
Speaker 1: the scene, because she's very She's given like two lines,
Speaker 1: but she has decided to make this character sexually, voracious
Speaker 1: and queer. She's like obsessed with Lori Petty. As soon
Speaker 1: as she hears about her, she's like, ooh, she's got
Speaker 1: black hair and blue eyes. Good choice, Utah, And she's like,
Speaker 1: she's like trying to pal around with him being one
Speaker 1: of the guys. I fucking love this actress and this character.
Speaker 1: It's this is it. You won't see her again, but
Speaker 1: envy fucking pay of the movie.
Speaker 2: So Johnny tracks Tyler down. He gives her a story
Speaker 2: about how both of his parents died and how he
Speaker 2: realized he was living out the goals that they had
Speaker 2: set for him and now he has to live his
Speaker 2: own life and he has this calling to be a.
Speaker 1: Surfer, right Like, he decided to move to the West
Speaker 1: Coast and he's never seen the ocean in his life
Speaker 1: and suddenly he can't get enough of the ocean. It's
Speaker 1: just dumb enough that it works on her because she's like, again,
Speaker 1: it's Keanu Reeves but also it's smart because he peppers
Speaker 1: in like real information about himself, so that if anyone
Speaker 1: did any type of searching on him, they'd be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: Johnny Utah used to play football, went to law school,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Of course, he leaves out the part
Speaker 1: about being an FBI agent, so she agrees to help him.
Speaker 1: She's like, I'll give you one surf lesson because she's
Speaker 1: like he's like broken through her like tough girl exterior.
Speaker 1: She's like, be here at six am tomorrow. If you're
Speaker 1: even a minute late, I'm out. This is why I
Speaker 1: could never be a surfer, Paul, aside from the fact
Speaker 1: that it's really hard and I'm very lazy. You have
Speaker 1: to do it early in.
Speaker 2: The morning, and apparently it's time sensitive. You can't be late.
Speaker 1: Gross gross ew ew. Any sport that you have to
Speaker 1: do before the sun comes up pass, hard, pass.
Speaker 2: So this montage is fairly extended, And at this point
Speaker 2: in the movie, I am thinking, where the fuck is
Speaker 2: my Patrick Swayzey.
Speaker 1: Because we kind of have blown past it, like really
Speaker 1: quick through the beginning of the movie, but we're like
Speaker 1: thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where is Patrick? I know he's in the movie,
Speaker 2: where is he give him to me?
Speaker 1: Now, every time we say there is a montage, it
Speaker 1: is an eight minute montage. So that first montage of
Speaker 1: Canner reeves like almost dying surfing, and again now this one,
Speaker 1: they're like a full five minutes each.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all beautifully shot.
Speaker 1: There's something really like hypnotic about the movie. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love I love this movie. So Paul who should appear
Speaker 1: as they're gliding through the water and Johnny looks into
Speaker 1: the ocean. My Patrick, Patrick Swayze is this peak Patrick Swayze.
Speaker 2: No, Johnny Castle is peak Patrick Swazey.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna disagree with you.
Speaker 2: I'm not going indeed be hearing arguments. You are allowed
Speaker 2: to express an incorrect opinion.
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to disagree with you because there's something
Speaker 1: about beech bum Patrick swayzey that is so appealing. The tan,
Speaker 1: the like stubble, the longer hair, the fact that he
Speaker 1: wears literally the dumbest outfits of anyone in the whole
Speaker 1: movie but makes them work.
Speaker 2: Make them sexiest.
Speaker 1: Holy shit. Yeah, he wears like Palazzo pants at one point,
Speaker 1: and I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, would do.
Speaker 1: He wears one of those dumb sweatshirts that like all
Speaker 1: the kids who thinks they're they're white kids who think
Speaker 1: they're Rostafarians where and he makes it look hot Yep, impossible,
Speaker 1: Patrick Swayzey. It looks like he's doing his own stunts.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. When I was doing research for the movie,
Speaker 2: they all three of them learned how to surf. And
Speaker 2: Patrick Swayze, I think extra said wind up breaking like
Speaker 2: four ribs doing it oo like he was doing. I
Speaker 2: don't know that he's doing all like the super difficult stuff.
Speaker 2: But like most of the shots of them surfing in
Speaker 2: the movie are the actual actors surfing.
Speaker 1: Wow? Yet because there's a scene is Gore just shot
Speaker 1: of him like with the water kind of cascading over
Speaker 1: him as he's gliding through like a tunnel and you
Speaker 1: can see clearly it's Patrick Swayze's face.
Speaker 2: It is beautiful, I.
Speaker 1: Mean stunning, and like he's a dancer, right, so he
Speaker 1: knows how to move his body to maximum effect to
Speaker 1: like create a look and damn.
Speaker 2: So he runs up and he just plants one on
Speaker 2: Tyler right in front of Johnny.
Speaker 1: But first before let's talk about like he sees body
Speaker 1: but his name is body. Patrick Swayzey. Johnny sees Body
Speaker 1: and immediately is like, yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my pants are tight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he is into Body, right.
Speaker 2: Like I'm talking about his erection.
Speaker 1: He's like entranced, and which as we all should be, because
Speaker 1: Body is stunningly he's a surf of God. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: like I just want to mention that because from the jump,
Speaker 1: these two are obsessed with each other.
Speaker 2: Continue, So Body runs up, He kisses Tyler right in
Speaker 2: front of right in front of Johnny says, oh, are
Speaker 2: you replacing me? And she asks, well, where have you been?
Speaker 2: And he brushes it off. And so clearly they have
Speaker 2: a history, but doesn't seem like they're actually currently dating.
Speaker 2: They maybe used to sleep together or something. Yeah, this
Speaker 2: is not like, oh I've been caught cheating situation. Yeah.
Speaker 1: She says at one point, oh, yeah, I know him,
Speaker 1: that's Body, and then she talks about him and how
Speaker 1: he's like a she doesn't say surf junkie. She says
Speaker 1: something like he's looking for the ultimate ride.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's intense, he'll do anything to get the perfect wave.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so she knows about him. So, but the
Speaker 1: two men start sizing each other up, kind of like hmm, okay,
Speaker 1: hmm okay, and then Johnny catches a football that someone
Speaker 1: throws and there's no like, hey, do you want to
Speaker 1: play with us? They just cut to a scene of
Speaker 1: all of them playing football on the beat.
Speaker 2: They also cut to a scene that's clearly hours later,
Speaker 2: because it goes to a full night with a bonfire.
Speaker 2: I can only assume that Body and Johnny fucked in
Speaker 2: the sand during that time.
Speaker 1: Let's say, yes, behind the dunes on top of their surfboards.
Speaker 2: So they're playing, and at a certain point, Johnny winds
Speaker 2: up tackling Body into the surf.
Speaker 1: It's so funny because Johnny is so clearly better than
Speaker 1: everyone else, but in like a hilariously like they are
Speaker 1: way overmatched the whole team. He tackles like seven guys
Speaker 1: to get to Body, who has the ball, and then
Speaker 1: like tackles him in the in the ocean. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they all get They wind up all wet and tangled
Speaker 1: with each other. Yeah, And some of the other guys
Speaker 1: are like, yo, man's that wasn't cool, And Body's like, no,
Speaker 1: it's fine. Don't you guys recognize him? That's Johnny Utah.
Speaker 1: As soon as he says that, all the other guys
Speaker 1: are like, oh, dude, from the Rose Bowl two years ago.
Speaker 2: We find out he had to sustained a career ending
Speaker 2: injury on his knee, which is the only reason he
Speaker 2: didn't go to the NFL. Yeah, just the idea that
Speaker 2: these beach bums would care enough about college football.
Speaker 1: That is true. That's not two cultures that I feel
Speaker 1: like mixed.
Speaker 2: We don't see these guys watch TV the entire movie.
Speaker 1: Or give a fuck about any.
Speaker 2: Sort I think other than surfing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's so. That is weird. But maybe that's
Speaker 1: like their winter thing because they can't surf in the winter,
Speaker 1: so they watch college football. Sure, let's do that.
Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah, so they kind of accept Johnny into their
Speaker 2: tribe at that point. Cut to the FBI office. Johnny
Speaker 2: springs his surfboard. By the way, you should mention is magenta.
Speaker 1: It iss. It is commented on by every real surfer
Speaker 1: in the movie. They're all like, well, that's that's quite
Speaker 1: a board you have there. He bought like the dumbest gurliest.
Speaker 1: It's like magenta and has like a sun sunrise on
Speaker 1: it or something. It's not good. No, he brings his
Speaker 1: board to the office. There's a scene where harp. The
Speaker 1: director like reams him and pop Us out for wasting
Speaker 1: their time on surfers when like, apparently two weeks have
Speaker 1: passed and these guys have already hit two more banks,
Speaker 1: so they're getting nowhere with these like spending their days
Speaker 1: at the beach. And he's just like, he's such an asshole.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love when a character is just an unredeemable asshole
Speaker 1: for no reason. McGinley plays it so perfectly.
Speaker 2: Oh, he is one of our great assholes on film.
Speaker 2: Not as great as the asshole we saw earlier, but
Speaker 2: close close.
Speaker 1: All right. So he reams them out. So basically they're
Speaker 1: they're in hot water with the FBI, but they get
Speaker 1: a break in the case. One of the guards at
Speaker 1: one of the banks that these guys hit in the
Speaker 1: last two weeks got some hair off of one of
Speaker 1: the guys, off of one of the bank robbers, and
Speaker 1: the hare has traces of certain toxins that you find
Speaker 1: it like chemical spills. So this actually does enhance the
Speaker 1: theory that these are surfers, because these are people who
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time in the water. So now
Speaker 1: he hit a scene where Johnny and Papus go up
Speaker 1: and down the coast to like beaches that have been
Speaker 1: closed because of chemical spills. Yeah, and the steel hair
Speaker 1: from surfers.
Speaker 2: Papus does it by literally just clipping the hair off
Speaker 2: their heads.
Speaker 1: Like he finds two guys on the beach that are
Speaker 1: smoking weed, I think, and he's like, I'm a cop
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh fuck, we're in trouble. He's like, nope,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna need your hair, and he literally just
Speaker 1: cuts the hair and walks away.
Speaker 2: And Johnny like pretends this other guy has like a
Speaker 2: bug on him and he just rips some hair out
Speaker 2: of his head. He's like, oh, I got the bug?
Speaker 2: What is happening.
Speaker 1: Also, Johnny his undercover undercover Personona here is Ted from
Speaker 1: Bill and Ted. He's like, dude, I got the bug.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god. I needed to
Speaker 1: hear that voice so badly in this movie. I'm so
Speaker 1: glad he did it. He doesn't do it again, which
Speaker 1: is unfortun Yeah, but we do get a littlettle taste
Speaker 1: of Bill Yeah from Bill and Dead.
Speaker 2: So Johnny starts surfing at the beach, Pappus does the
Speaker 2: steak out, So Papas is like the guy his backup, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and Johnny pisses off a local surf group that we
Speaker 2: later find out are surf Nazis. Yeah, do you know
Speaker 2: where else we saw surf Nazis?
Speaker 1: The Lost Boys? Are these twin films?
Speaker 2: They are?
Speaker 1: Is this the Romulus and Remiss for movies? Should we
Speaker 1: end the podcast after this?
Speaker 2: We've peaked When they said surf Nazis, I just about
Speaker 2: fell off the couch from a seated position. These are
Speaker 2: the people who get killed by the Lost Boys and
Speaker 2: the Lost Boys.
Speaker 1: Yes, so this is a tribe of asshole surf like
Speaker 1: meth head surfers.
Speaker 2: Did you catch who one of them is?
Speaker 1: Anthony Ketis from the Red Hot Chili Peppers. This movie
Speaker 1: has everything. It has chemical spills, it has surfboards, it
Speaker 1: has the lead singer to the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Speaker 1: And you know what, he's not bad, No, he's fine.
Speaker 1: It's one of the better like musical musical.
Speaker 2: I mean he's asked to do very little.
Speaker 1: Like when a musician is like in a movie sometimes
Speaker 1: they're just they stick out, and he actually fits in beautifully.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So there's a weird scene where so Johnny goes to
Speaker 1: surf at this beach that they have now determined is
Speaker 1: the beach where these guys hang out, and he's like
Speaker 1: accosted by all the locals. They're they're like, there's one
Speaker 1: guy that actually punches him in the face and says
Speaker 1: politeness is key man. And he's punching him in the
Speaker 1: face because I guess Johnny got in his way while
Speaker 1: they were surfing. Then Johnny goes to have We're treated
Speaker 1: to an amazing shot of Cannon Reeves under like a
Speaker 1: water as he's like washing himself.
Speaker 2: On the beach, sadly still in a wet suit, still.
Speaker 1: In a wetsuit, but that's okay because we're about to
Speaker 1: get a shirtless Patrick sways and four of the surf
Speaker 1: Nazis like circle him and they're like, we don't like
Speaker 1: outsiders in our in our on our little beach, and
Speaker 1: he's like, fuck off, I'm not afraid of you. They
Speaker 1: don't know they're talking to an FBI agent, and they
Speaker 1: just start to kick the shit out of him, and
Speaker 1: he fights back pretty hard in his defense. But then
Speaker 1: body comes in like a angel.
Speaker 2: Again. We have karate, we have like kicks. It's not
Speaker 2: like a it's not like a It.
Speaker 1: Felt like the heat had just done the movie Roadhouse
Speaker 1: and like Patrick Swayzey and like the and like Catherine
Speaker 1: Bigelow was like, can you still remember those Roadhouse moves?
Speaker 1: Because I don't want to have to get into a choreographer.
Speaker 2: Yeah for this, you.
Speaker 1: Want to just do it yourself. And he's like fuck
Speaker 1: yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: I also like, I wouldn't recommend kicking someone with a
Speaker 2: bare foot unless you really know what you're doing. I mean,
Speaker 2: easy way to break a toe.
Speaker 1: Patrick Swayzey knows what he's doing.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So shirtless sex god Patrick Swayzey comes in and
Speaker 1: the two of them take on the entire surf Nazi
Speaker 1: game and win and win. So then they're leaving the
Speaker 1: beach and as they're leaving the beach, Pappas comes in.
Speaker 1: He's Undercover two and he's like, hey, have you guys
Speaker 1: seen my dog or whatever? And Patrick Swayzey's like, oh not.
Speaker 1: Patrick Swayzey Canneryves is like no, but you might want
Speaker 1: to ask those four guys on the beach there like
Speaker 1: signaling to his partner, I think we found our crew
Speaker 1: of bank robbers. And then we're treated to like another
Speaker 1: like scene of body and Johnny falling in love as
Speaker 1: they walked to the car, and Body starts to talk
Speaker 1: about his like his spiritual quest and that's why he surfs,
Speaker 1: and how like guys like that don't understand it. They
Speaker 1: might enjoy the sport of surfing, but they'll all they
Speaker 1: want to do is get radical, which I love early
Speaker 1: nineties lingo. All they care about is getting radical, man,
Speaker 1: and they don't understand that, like surfing is about being
Speaker 1: one with the earth. Blah blah blah blah. I could
Speaker 1: barely listen to it. Like if he did not look
Speaker 1: like Patrick Swayzey, I'd be like, fuck off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But they're also kind of setting him up to
Speaker 2: be this cult of personality like that that he's supposed
Speaker 2: to have this charisma that is almost irresistible. Yes, And
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: I think Patrick's rale.
Speaker 2: Pulls it off pretty well.
Speaker 1: He's like a guru. He's like, he's like a shitty
Speaker 1: Charles Manson guru.
Speaker 2: Right. So Body invites Johnny over to his house that
Speaker 2: night because he's having a party in his pants. Before that,
Speaker 2: Johnny and Pappus are tailing the surf Nazis. They find
Speaker 2: out they have a history of violent crime and.
Speaker 1: They're lots of drug offenses.
Speaker 2: Yeap. So they put a detail on their house and
Speaker 2: they get a warrant to raid the house. Yeah, next morning.
Speaker 1: The plan is to by by morning the warrant should
Speaker 1: come through and the FBI is going to raid the house.
Speaker 2: This is incredibly shoddy detective work.
Speaker 1: I know literally, like they're kind of dicks. So they're
Speaker 1: probably are bank robbers, yeah, forget the fact that these
Speaker 1: guys are clearly like all mentally ill, yeah, and probably
Speaker 1: couldn't pull off a complicated bank run.
Speaker 2: Don't even check the whereabouts, like, come on a little more.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a theme in this film. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of real shoddy police work.
Speaker 2: So Johnny goes to the party Tyler's with him. There
Speaker 2: are fire eaters at this party.
Speaker 1: There are fire This movie has everything. It has fire eaters,
Speaker 1: it has it has Lori Petty in a really really
Speaker 1: cute velvet dress. It has Patrick Swayzey eating a line
Speaker 1: out of a woman's mouth.
Speaker 2: Its everyone's talking about riding the big Wave. Body tells
Speaker 2: Johnny that once every fifty years is a winter storm
Speaker 2: off of Antarctica that creates the largest surf man has
Speaker 2: ever seen off of Bell's beach in Australia and that
Speaker 2: he intends to ride and possibly die in it next year.
Speaker 1: That's like the greatest, the greatest way to die.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What's so funny too, is I love this movie, but
Speaker 1: if I met any of these characters in real life,
Speaker 1: I'd hate them on site.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I pushed them into traffic immediately immediately.
Speaker 1: Who's the one character you think you could be friends
Speaker 1: with in this movie? I'm gonna go with the FBI
Speaker 1: analyst lady.
Speaker 2: I think I could be friends with Tyler.
Speaker 1: She's a lot.
Speaker 2: She's a lot, but at least is holding down a
Speaker 2: job and like, I mean, she likes surfing. We wouldn't
Speaker 2: have a lot in common, but she seems like to
Speaker 2: generally basically have her shit together.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough. Also, she's the aside from Johnny,
Speaker 1: she's the only person in this tribe that doesn't have
Speaker 1: like a weird, dumb, fake made name. Literally, everyone's like,
Speaker 1: my name's Roach, my name's I don't know, win, Romit,
Speaker 1: wind Hammer, I don't know what would your surf name be?
Speaker 2: Oh oh well, my first thought is maybe, like, because
Speaker 2: everyone would know that I'm scared of sharks, they would
Speaker 2: just call me shark. So when they the people just
Speaker 2: keep yelling shark at me while I was in the ocean.
Speaker 1: Wow, you're you're anticipating your friends being dicks.
Speaker 2: Or maybe they'd call me because Glee famously said that
Speaker 2: dolphins are gay sharks, So maybe I would be dolphins.
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. I like that.
Speaker 2: What would yours be?
Speaker 1: Mine would be hump back because I would rule the ocean.
Speaker 1: And also I have a terrible hump on my back.
Speaker 1: That would be fine. Okay, so you okay, So Tyler,
Speaker 1: I like the only two like people we could that
Speaker 1: are not insufferable, or the only two women.
Speaker 2: In the movie. Only two.
Speaker 1: This movie does not pass the Bechtel test.
Speaker 2: Oh it doesn't even try to.
Speaker 1: No, there's literally one female character with a name. And
Speaker 1: then we have the data analyst lady who's just given
Speaker 1: me life.
Speaker 2: And the surf not yetes.
Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah, they're coming up. Tyler's bored with all
Speaker 1: their casual attitudes about dying in the ocean, because remember
Speaker 1: she's someone who's experienced death, and she's like, you know what, guys,
Speaker 1: it's not so cool. So she goes in the house
Speaker 1: and Johnny comes after her. They're just kind of like
Speaker 1: chatting about about Body and about how like intense this all,
Speaker 1: this whole situation is. And Body comes in and he's like,
Speaker 1: I have an idea. You guys follow me, and he
Speaker 1: takes them out for a midnight surf and Johnny is
Speaker 1: very smartly terrified. He's like, oh, I can't even surf
Speaker 1: in the day during daylight, Like I'm gonna die out here.
Speaker 1: He keeps saying, I'm gonna die out here. I don't
Speaker 1: want to do this Lori. Petty's character kind of is
Speaker 1: like it's fine, you'll be okay. Body like swims up
Speaker 1: next to him and in his sexy Patrick's swayzy voice
Speaker 1: is like just listen to the water Man and Johnny's
Speaker 1: like okay, and then they surf together, and that's I
Speaker 1: think the moment Johnny falls in love with surfing, right,
Speaker 1: and well, he's already been in love with Body. He'd
Speaker 1: been Johnny ben Body that made no sense. But he's
Speaker 1: like now fully in love with surfing. He's like ecstatic.
Speaker 1: He has this like amazing like like new Lisa on
Speaker 1: life because he's found surfing. Look, I gets if you're
Speaker 1: into surfing, cool, yeah, cool cool cool, But like they
Speaker 1: treat surfing in this movie like Heroin.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Johnny comes back to the beach and Lori Petty
Speaker 1: is like, Wow, you look like a totally different person.
Speaker 1: You look so happy. She's like, normally you have a
Speaker 1: scowl on your face, like you're doing some kind of
Speaker 1: class projects, which is excellent writing because he really is
Speaker 1: doing a class project. The other surfers kind of leave
Speaker 1: the exaus they realize that, like there's something happening between
Speaker 1: Tyler and Johnny, and they leave, and Tyler and Johnny
Speaker 1: stay and bone on the beach.
Speaker 2: Yep. Wake up the next morning and Johnny realizes he's
Speaker 2: late for the raid that he set up.
Speaker 1: There's a very sexy moment where he knows he's late,
Speaker 1: but he can't stop kissing her anyway.
Speaker 2: Even though they just slept on the beach in morning breath.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't care. It's Cannon Reeves, Canna Reeves being sexy.
Speaker 1: This is the first time, honestly that I've gotten Kennu Reeves.
Speaker 1: I've always loved him as an actor. I think he's
Speaker 1: so entertaining. I've never understood the sexiness this time yesterday,
Speaker 1: yesterday night, watching this movie, I was like, yes, I
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 2: He's very sexy in this movie. Yeah, So he gets
Speaker 2: to the raid. As the raid progresses, we realize that
Speaker 2: the surf Nazis have like a full arsenal of guns
Speaker 2: in their house. The raid goes south very quickly, immediately
Speaker 2: immediately that there is a lot of gunfire. Surf Nazis
Speaker 2: are getting killed. One of the surf Nazi yats, their
Speaker 2: girlfriend is in the shower and she starts beating up
Speaker 2: Johnny fully nude.
Speaker 1: Yes, also one of the At one point, one of
Speaker 1: the surf Nazis like takes his own girlfriend hostage because
Speaker 1: he's trying to get the fuck out of the house
Speaker 1: and there's FBI agents everywhere, and he's like, I'll kill
Speaker 1: the bitch, you swear. Yeah, And that's the one Papa
Speaker 1: shoots in the head. Yeah, it goes south because Johnny
Speaker 1: is trying to signal the other FBI agents to that,
Speaker 1: like there's an arsenal in the house, get like ab abort, abort,
Speaker 1: But the guy next door is mowing his.
Speaker 2: Lawn Chekhov's loannemower, like the lawnmower.
Speaker 1: So loud that an FBI agent is incapable of telling
Speaker 1: his crew to like abhor mission on a very dangerous raid,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I think the FBI should maybe have
Speaker 1: some better equipment or perhaps tell the gentleman to not
Speaker 1: mow his lawn. Yeah, at quite this moment.
Speaker 2: There's gonna have to be a lot of gunfire.
Speaker 1: I feel like no one did any research on the
Speaker 1: FBI before they wrote.
Speaker 2: This movie terribly planned raid.
Speaker 1: They just were like, yeah, whatever, they're in the FBI.
Speaker 1: This all makes sense. Shut up, don't ask questions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they managed to get out of the out
Speaker 2: of the surf Nazi raid unscathed. Yeah.
Speaker 1: At one point, Johnny's head is being held right up
Speaker 1: against the lawnmower. It's the coolest fuck shot.
Speaker 2: I actually watched through my fingers because I thought I
Speaker 2: didn't think he was going to get going to lawnmower,
Speaker 2: but I thought the guy fighting it was yeah, and
Speaker 2: I didn't want to see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair, that would have been gnarly. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: cool shot. And like, of course Papa saves him and
Speaker 1: like gets the guy. So some of the surf Nazis die.
Speaker 1: All the FBI agents survive, but they can't celebrate because
Speaker 1: they find no evidence that these are their bank robbers.
Speaker 1: No masks anywhere and a special Agent D of the
Speaker 1: DEA played uncredited by Tom Sizemore, is.
Speaker 2: That Tom Sizemore, Tom size Moore. I did not recognize him.
Speaker 1: He shows up and he reams them out because he
Speaker 1: has been undercover with the surf Nazis for fucking months
Speaker 1: because they are meth traffickers and he was trying to
Speaker 1: get to the main meth trafficker through them, And now
Speaker 1: the fucking raide is ruined. And this this is the thing.
Speaker 1: Another thing about like TV shows about cops and movies
Speaker 1: about cops is like when they don't work together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there's always that scene where they're like, just because
Speaker 1: you tried to arrest these guys, you ruined my case.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, why don't you guys talk to each other.
Speaker 2: This movie has everything. It has meth traffickers, It has lawnmowers,
Speaker 2: It has surf nazi ets fully naked beating the shit
Speaker 2: at FBI he.
Speaker 1: It has Tom Sizemore, It has Anthony keat Is getting
Speaker 1: shot in the foot and a closeup of him screaming.
Speaker 2: So we cut to Johnny in bed with Tyler. It's
Speaker 2: one of those shots where it's an air shot and
Speaker 2: he's she's kind of croll up sleeping next to him,
Speaker 2: and he's just staring at the ceiling. He's very upset.
Speaker 2: His confidence has clearly been shaken.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the first person he saw who was like
Speaker 1: those are the bank robbers turned out and didn't do
Speaker 1: any further research and not be the bank robbers. Who
Speaker 1: could have seen that coming Paul.
Speaker 2: So the buzzer rings and it's Body and the crew
Speaker 2: and they all go surfing, and Johnny sees how Body
Speaker 2: and all of his friends are like a team. They're
Speaker 2: like a well oiled machine. And then while surfing, one
Speaker 2: of the guys pulls down his pants and moons his friends.
Speaker 1: And Johnny suddenly like it all clicks yep, and he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: this group works really well together and they have a charismatic,
Speaker 1: smart leader and.
Speaker 2: Holy shit, I've seen that butthole.
Speaker 1: So he puts eight and eight together and comes up
Speaker 1: with sixteen because he had the answer in front of him. All.
Speaker 1: It's like the OZ sometimes the answers in front of
Speaker 1: you the whole time.
Speaker 2: It's inside you.
Speaker 1: It's inside you.
Speaker 2: So he tells Papus his theory. Body and the guys,
Speaker 2: the ex presidents he's been tailing Body. So we have
Speaker 2: a time jump here because it goes right from that
Speaker 2: to like a scene with him and Papas and he
Speaker 2: is telling him he's been telling body, body's been going
Speaker 2: to this bank. He thinks he's casing the bank. He's
Speaker 2: sure this is the next hit.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also Body is ready to like move on
Speaker 1: for the summer because he's cleaned out his house. So
Speaker 1: they've really got to get to them at this next
Speaker 1: robbery or else they're going to lose them for like
Speaker 1: a year. So we cut to them sticking out the bank.
Speaker 1: It's it's ten thirty in the morning. Man, this is
Speaker 1: Keanu as Papa's is like, I'm starving.
Speaker 2: It sets him to get two full sized meatball subs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not one for each of them.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine the heartburn?
Speaker 1: Two for just you at ten to thirty in the morning.
Speaker 2: Oh God.
Speaker 1: So he's like, go, hey, Nuby, go get me a sandwich.
Speaker 1: And he's fine. So Keanu Reeves goes to like the
Speaker 1: sandwich Kiosk to get this enormous amount of food at
Speaker 1: ten thirty in the morning. He's ordering a ton of food.
Speaker 1: As he's ordering, it.
Speaker 2: Comes to seven dollars and forty eight cents.
Speaker 1: Oh I miss that. Oh my god, does it really?
Speaker 1: Oh I got tacos earlier today they were ten dollars.
Speaker 1: So while he's ordering the food, in the background, we
Speaker 1: can see the car pulling up to the bank and
Speaker 1: the four bank robbers getting out right and going into
Speaker 1: the bank real quietly. By the time he returns to
Speaker 1: the car, they're still in the bank. They see them
Speaker 1: leaving the bank, so now they're like, oh shit, chase, Chase, Chase.
Speaker 1: So they give chase. So there's a car chase through
Speaker 1: the streets of La with the bank robbers, the ex
Speaker 1: presidents in one car and Papa's and Johnny Utah.
Speaker 2: And the other.
Speaker 1: This is my favorite part of a whole movie. This
Speaker 1: top to bottom of everything that's about to happen is
Speaker 1: fucking awesome. Okay, So they start in a car chase.
Speaker 1: Papa's is shooting at their car and like they're shooting
Speaker 1: back at them. Then they both accidentally run over those
Speaker 1: like spikes in the road like they're trying to they're
Speaker 1: trying to jump into like a parking area, and all
Speaker 1: their tires are blown out on both cars. They're still driving.
Speaker 1: They're driving on like naked tires to like a local
Speaker 1: gas station where they steal a car and they get
Speaker 1: in the car and they're like, come on, body man,
Speaker 1: get in the car. We gotta hurry.
Speaker 2: They don't say body.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's right. They don't say body, right, because the
Speaker 1: audience is not supposed to know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't know who it is. Could be anyone, could.
Speaker 1: Be anyone with Patrick Swayzey's voice in that Reagan mask, Yeah,
Speaker 1: who's the ringleader of this gang?
Speaker 2: And body excuse me? Reagan?
Speaker 1: Reagan.
Speaker 2: Reagan wants to destroy the car, so he douses it
Speaker 2: in gasoline.
Speaker 1: And then he takes the gas pump and creates a
Speaker 1: flamethrower out of the gas pump and it is awesome.
Speaker 2: He lights the car on fire, and then from over
Speaker 2: the flaming car appears a leaping Keanu reeves. Yes, the
Speaker 2: other car takes off. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They're like, well, so we can't save him. So they
Speaker 1: take off in their car and now Reagan is being
Speaker 1: chased by Johnny on foot. What proceeds to happen is
Speaker 1: this amazing chase scene that takes like five minutes. It's long,
Speaker 1: and they're going through like a neighborhood in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: and they're going in and out of people's backyards. And
Speaker 1: my favorite moment of the whole movie comes when at
Speaker 1: one point there's like a pit bull on a porch
Speaker 1: and and Reagan picks it up and throws it and
Speaker 1: Johnny utah.
Speaker 2: He's actually like waiting for him to appear, and then
Speaker 2: just like tosses the dog at.
Speaker 1: Him, tosses a pitbull at him. Paul, this movie has everything.
Speaker 1: It has flamethrowers, it has Reagan masks, it has someone
Speaker 1: throwing a pitbull at someone else. Johnny deflects the pitbull.
Speaker 1: There's there's an unfortunate like offscreen a sound effect when
Speaker 1: we hear it going where it's been hurt, which that's
Speaker 1: not great. Don't do that in movies. The pitple did
Speaker 1: get like a bite at Johnny's face, so he has
Speaker 1: some cuts on his face. Now the chase continues and
Speaker 1: they go to the La Aqueduct, which we've seen this
Speaker 1: before in Terminator Too.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: The director of that film was married to the director
Speaker 1: of this film.
Speaker 2: Du Dun du Dundun. Maybe they filmed on the same day,
Speaker 2: aren't they released the same year?
Speaker 1: Possibly oh Man what like, I love Terminator too. This
Speaker 1: is a far better.
Speaker 2: So Reagan slides down into the aqueduct. First, he's running across.
Speaker 2: Johnny follows in. He lands wrong. We've heard about his
Speaker 2: bum knee and he can't get up. Yeah, And he
Speaker 2: takes out his gun and he sees Reagan climbing the
Speaker 2: fence and he takes aim.
Speaker 1: There's a slow close up of Reagan's eye.
Speaker 2: A crystal blue eye through the mask, and he's looking
Speaker 2: at Johnny, and Johnny's looking at Reagan, and Johnny shouts
Speaker 2: his fury to the heavens and fires his gun into
Speaker 2: the sky. He can't shoot his friend, friend.
Speaker 1: He can't shoot his friend. He remember, he's an expert marksman.
Speaker 2: I know this.
Speaker 1: He could have taken him down, but he can't do it.
Speaker 1: We should have mentioned earlier in this far earlier at
Speaker 1: the bank when the when they first start chasing them,
Speaker 1: one of the other robbers almost shoots Johnny and body
Speaker 1: stops him Reagan, ha, and Reagan stops him so like,
Speaker 1: it's quid pro quo in a way. You saved my life,
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna save yours. That is an iconic moment.
Speaker 1: I love that moment. With Keanu Reeves screaming at the
Speaker 1: sky and just like unloading his gun at the sky.
Speaker 2: It's also something this will come up later in the
Speaker 2: movie too, but like to have these enormous, almost Greek
Speaker 2: tragedy like moments of like emotion in a movie, you
Speaker 2: have to have an actor that can pull it off.
Speaker 1: And Keanu Reeves can't pull it off.
Speaker 2: He cannot. It is just it is funny for the
Speaker 2: wrong reasons, but it's wonderful for the right ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, it's so good, all right. So cut to
Speaker 1: the FBI office. He's his knees banged up, his banged up,
Speaker 1: His knee is all like bandaged up. Papus is like,
Speaker 1: so curious that you unloaded your entire weapon and managed
Speaker 1: not to hit this guy once, even though you're an
Speaker 1: expert marksman, I don't believe you. And he's like, look,
Speaker 1: you're getting too close. You can't treat these people as friends.
Speaker 1: Remember they are bank robbers, and he's like okay, And
Speaker 1: then he immediately goes to Tyler's.
Speaker 2: House, yes, and she's cleaning his wounds, and he almost
Speaker 2: confesses to her that he's an FBI agent, but she
Speaker 2: clearly thinks he's going to tell her that he's in
Speaker 2: love with her.
Speaker 1: She does that thing I love in movies when someone's
Speaker 1: about to confess something and she's like, sh you don't
Speaker 1: have to tell me anything.
Speaker 2: It's not time for this plot point to be revealed.
Speaker 1: Yet every time that happens in a movie, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe just to let him say whatever
Speaker 1: he's gonna say.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So we cut back to the beach to Body
Speaker 2: in the gang. This is Is this the first scene
Speaker 2: sons Keanu reeves in the entire movie? Yeah? Yes, every
Speaker 2: other he is in every other scene of this movie. Yeah. Wow,
Speaker 2: this is the confirmation we learned the secret. It actually
Speaker 2: was Body under the Ragan mass what it was Gramet
Speaker 2: and Nathaniel and Roach and the other.
Speaker 1: That's another thing, like and Rosie and Body and Roach
Speaker 1: and Daniel. I like to think that that is actually
Speaker 1: still a fake name, Like he chose his surf name
Speaker 1: to be Nathaniel, but his real name is like Jonathan.
Speaker 2: So they all want to quit, They want to get
Speaker 2: out of dodge or kill Johnny. Body talks them down.
Speaker 2: He says, this is about more than money. They're showing
Speaker 2: the rest of the society that society they're dead inside
Speaker 2: and they're truly living. And he said, I know how
Speaker 2: to deal with Johnny.
Speaker 1: He has this line that actually struck a chord with
Speaker 1: me because I'm like now older than these characters and
Speaker 1: have a day job, like an office job, where he's like,
Speaker 1: we're just telling these people living in their in their
Speaker 1: in their metal coffins and they're they're they're tried out
Speaker 1: husks at their offices, but wow, dead they are. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: we're really living. And I'm like, okay, okay, body shut up.
Speaker 2: Man, Okay, So this scene, if just it's our job
Speaker 2: to critique this scene doesn't work for me.
Speaker 1: Paul, what what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Because I don't see I don't understand the philosophy that
Speaker 2: he's purporting, Like if they were stealing the money and
Speaker 2: then like giving.
Speaker 1: It to the poor, No, they're stealing it so they can, like.
Speaker 2: So they can support their lifestyle, so they can so
Speaker 2: they can follow the waves. Yeah, and he's trying to
Speaker 2: make it sound noble and it isn't. And I don't
Speaker 2: think the movie's doing the homework to be like make
Speaker 2: it seem that body knows that, or if he doesn't
Speaker 2: know that, what is his actual take on. It is
Speaker 2: my thing.
Speaker 1: I think he believes his bullshit.
Speaker 2: You think he believes bullshit?
Speaker 1: I do because I think he thinks his life is
Speaker 1: more noble. It's very matrixy actually if you think about it,
Speaker 1: like he took the other pill, and he sees like
Speaker 1: he understands that the world is all fake, it's all insure.
Speaker 1: At one point when they're robbing those banks at the beginning,
Speaker 1: he's like, this is not worth dying for. When someone
Speaker 1: tries to be a hero, he's like, the insurance company
Speaker 1: will take care of you. So he thinks they're just
Speaker 1: like gaming the system. He's still a stone cold sociopath,
Speaker 1: as we are going to see later in the film,
Speaker 1: but at this point I'm still on the like all right,
Speaker 1: And also I think the movie is trying to him
Speaker 1: a little bit by like having him not want to
Speaker 1: kill Johnny. Although it takes a turn. It takes a
Speaker 1: little bit of a turn.
Speaker 2: It's in a minute. Yeah, it's it's very odd. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's keep going. So Tyler finds out john is an
Speaker 2: FBI agent. How does she confront him about that?
Speaker 1: She wakes him up from a dead sleep by shooting
Speaker 1: a gun next to his face.
Speaker 2: That is literally the start of a monologue in the
Speaker 2: Cell Block Tango from Chicago A.
Speaker 1: He had it coming, he had it. He was an
Speaker 1: FBI agent. He lied about his parents for some reason.
Speaker 1: Have Lori Petty wearing a shirt that's like open, like
Speaker 1: they had just had sex. Yeah, and she went through
Speaker 1: his They don't explain how she discovered he's an FBI agent.
Speaker 1: She just found his badge, I think in my mind. Also,
Speaker 1: though I'm sure body said something. He called her up
Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, girl, could you go through your
Speaker 1: boyfriend's back pocket for me? I think I love something
Speaker 1: in there.
Speaker 2: I mean that kind of makes sense because it cuts
Speaker 2: from Body saying I know how to deal with him
Speaker 2: to this scene. Yeah, so body is setting something in motion.
Speaker 1: It would seem that way. That's actually not what's happening.
Speaker 1: So this movie okay, fine, this movie might not be perfect.
Speaker 2: It's not structurally perfect, it's entertainingly perfect.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. So he apologizes. She's freaked out. She's like, are
Speaker 1: your parents even dead? Or was that a fucking line?
Speaker 1: And he's like, my parents are alive. They live in Ohio.
Speaker 1: I am one hundred percent on Tyler's side.
Speaker 2: He never speak to him me again.
Speaker 1: Yeah ever Ever, so she runs off. We get like
Speaker 1: a little bit of a scene where he keeps calling
Speaker 1: her over and over, and there's a great line here
Speaker 1: where Keanu's like, look, I'm really sorry, okay, but I
Speaker 1: care about you. And then he puts the phone down
Speaker 1: and he's like, why can't I ever say what I feel?
Speaker 1: It's so amazing. So he's trying to win Tyler back. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: like no one's concerned about the fact that, like body
Speaker 1: in the gang knows where he lives, right, he's not
Speaker 1: under any kind of protection. He doesn't go like into
Speaker 1: the office.
Speaker 2: He has a bum knee. He can't run, he can't
Speaker 2: run away.
Speaker 1: I can't protect himself really, And of course what should happen.
Speaker 1: Body and the gang show up to his door and
Speaker 1: they're like pretending they don't know it's him. They're like, uh,
Speaker 1: hey man, and of course he has to also pretend
Speaker 1: he doesn't know it's them. It's just very funny. And
Speaker 1: they're like, hey man, we want to try something with you.
Speaker 1: We want to do something extra special, and he's like,
Speaker 1: ummm no, maybe not.
Speaker 2: They're like good, I'm.
Speaker 1: Good, and he's like really quickly hiding his FBI badge
Speaker 1: and like trying to get to his gun, but he
Speaker 1: can't get he can't reach his gun in time, and
Speaker 1: they're like, no, no, it'll be great, it'll be totally amazing.
Speaker 1: He's like, look, I have a bum knee. I can't
Speaker 1: go surfing right now. And they're like, no, no, don't worry.
Speaker 1: You won't need your knee for this.
Speaker 2: Paul.
Speaker 1: Where do they take him?
Speaker 2: They take him to a plane and they're all going
Speaker 2: to go skydiving.
Speaker 1: Skydiving. Is this the only skydiving sequence?
Speaker 2: Certainly not in this film. This movie has everything. It
Speaker 2: has multiple skydiving sequences. It has bum knees, it has
Speaker 2: guns being emptied into pillows next to sleeping boyfriends.
Speaker 1: It has Keanu. He was talking about his feelings, so okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: they go skydiving. There's a funny scene in the I
Speaker 1: think it's funny in the airplane where like body pnds
Speaker 1: him like a parachute and he's like, I packed it myself,
Speaker 1: and Johnny's like, how good are you at packing parachutes?
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, do you want to trade? I
Speaker 1: thought of Vizzini from Princess Bride. He says, you want
Speaker 1: to trade. I'll give you mine, and he's like he's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I trust this one either. And
Speaker 1: then all the boys are like, you want to take
Speaker 1: my pack, you can use my pack, and they all
Speaker 1: do like Russian roulette with these parachutes. So Johnny's like,
Speaker 1: fuck it, okay, they must all legitimately be packed, So
Speaker 1: he decides to go for it, so he jumps out
Speaker 1: of an airplane with them. There is a like three
Speaker 1: minute scene of them like gliding through the air.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna make Patrick Swayze and Keanu Reeves and
Speaker 1: like all these other actors actually do this stunt, you're
Speaker 1: gonna use that footage, Yeah, because they really did this stunt.
Speaker 1: So they're just like gliding through the air. It's gorgeous.
Speaker 2: It is beautiful. It is The cinematography again, is just stunning.
Speaker 1: A former circle. They hold hands in the air and
Speaker 1: form a circle and then break apart and then they
Speaker 1: all pull their shoots. There's a funny moment between Body
Speaker 1: and Johnny where he's like.
Speaker 2: Well, they're hugging each other.
Speaker 1: They're hugging each other, and he's like, all right, you
Speaker 1: gotta pull your shoe He's like, I'll pull it when
Speaker 1: you pull yours. Which Hello. Finally they pull their shoots.
Speaker 1: They're all down on the ground. I'm like, where is
Speaker 1: this going? I'm like, are they going to adopt him
Speaker 1: anyway and try to lure him to the dark side?
Speaker 2: I thought they were That's where I thought it was going.
Speaker 1: That seemed to be where it was going. That is
Speaker 1: not where it is going.
Speaker 2: It surely is not.
Speaker 1: It takes a hard turn right now. What happens next?
Speaker 2: Paul so Body says, coming to the van, I have
Speaker 2: something I want to show you, and he plays in
Speaker 2: the video and on the video is Tyler tied up
Speaker 2: to a chair and next to her is Rosie with
Speaker 2: a knife. Rosie we haven't talked about yet. He's played
Speaker 2: by Lee turg Lee Turkison fantastic character actor.
Speaker 1: Also was in Wayne's World.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, playing a very different version of a very
Speaker 2: similar character.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like the Wayn's World characters meaner older brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rosie is kind of been hanging around the outskirts
Speaker 2: the movie, but he's not a surfer. He just hangs
Speaker 2: out with those guys, becausen't We don't ever see him
Speaker 2: surfing with them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like a little bit their muscle.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Patrick Swayze is basically like, you're gonna do what
Speaker 2: I tell you because if I don't show up where
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be at three pm, Rosie's gonna kill Tyler.
Speaker 1: So for the next six hours, you are my prisoner.
Speaker 1: You have to do everything I say.
Speaker 2: Escalates very quickly.
Speaker 1: And like Keanu Reeves is like like furious, and he's like,
Speaker 1: let her go, man, And then my favorite line in
Speaker 1: the entire movie comes up. Oh no, my second favorite line.
Speaker 1: So they're in the back of the van and they're
Speaker 1: about to do another bank robbery. They're like, you have
Speaker 1: to do it with us, man, and so they give
Speaker 1: him a kevlar vest and an empty gun, and he's like,
Speaker 1: I am an FBI agent. This movie has everything. It
Speaker 1: has Keanu Reeves saying I am an FBI agent. So
Speaker 1: they don't give him a president mask, which is I
Speaker 1: think shitty because I'm sure there's a JFK mask somewhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't give it. And also, no one got a
Speaker 1: Gerald Ford mask. Come on, poor Ford, No one remembers him,
Speaker 1: no one cares about Ford. They make him go into
Speaker 1: the bank, show his face to the cameras and everything
Speaker 1: with a loaded gun, very Patty Hurst. They start their
Speaker 1: normal robbery routine. Ninety seconds, hit the hit the drawers,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Body decides to go off script. Body's
Speaker 1: kind of losing it at this point.
Speaker 2: This was a point in the movie where I was like,
Speaker 2: why is he going off script? I wish the movie
Speaker 2: had done a little bit more work to be like,
Speaker 2: why is the reason he wants to go into the
Speaker 2: vault now? Because he's been very kind of cold and
Speaker 2: calculating up until up until now about this. So something
Speaker 2: is making him.
Speaker 1: Could it be his friend's betrayal?
Speaker 2: It's making him reckless?
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I think that's what it is. The movie.
Speaker 1: We're doing a lot of work for the movie. It
Speaker 1: hasn't really done enough, I think, to establish that these
Speaker 1: two are so still. It hasn't close that, Like the
Speaker 1: betrayal is like a thing for him, like you met
Speaker 1: him a month ago. But yeah, he's losing his mind
Speaker 1: because his friend betrayed him.
Speaker 2: I think, right, that's I think that's what it's positing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I think the movie could have spelled that out
Speaker 2: a little bit more. If you're not going to be
Speaker 2: able to show me it. Then you should have told me.
Speaker 1: It or made them lovers. I'm serious, just get them lovers.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I wouldn't be mad if I.
Speaker 2: Made the Remake's where it would be going.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah. So right, So suddenly he switches the script
Speaker 1: and he's like, go for the vault, and the other
Speaker 1: guys are like, whoa what are you talking about. He's like,
Speaker 1: go for the fucking vault. We have thirty seconds go.
Speaker 1: So they go for the vault. But now it's taking
Speaker 1: too long. Now they're getting reckless. Now there's not enough
Speaker 1: crowd control because Keanu's not about to fucking shoot the crowd.
Speaker 1: There's an off duty cop is one of the hostages.
Speaker 1: He takes out his gun and tries to be a hero.
Speaker 1: It starts a full fucking firefight. He shoots Keanu and
Speaker 1: he shoots Body, but both of them are wearing Kevlar
Speaker 1: vests so they survive. Then he shoots which one is
Speaker 1: that gram at the baby baby one? He shoots him
Speaker 1: in the neck, so he bleeds out and dies. And
Speaker 1: at that point, Body, who's never actually in the car.
Speaker 1: Right on the way here, Body was espousing another bullshit
Speaker 1: philosophy to Keanu about how like he never has to
Speaker 1: hurt anybody because he uses like his mental power over
Speaker 1: them to like not hurt them, blah blah blah, and
Speaker 1: Keanu is at this point, Johnny's like, I'm not buying
Speaker 1: any more of your bullshit, your guru bullshit. He loses
Speaker 1: his mind and shoots the cop and then he and
Speaker 1: the gang leave. They leave Johnny in the bank and
Speaker 1: they cold cock him on the way out.
Speaker 2: Yes, he's unconscious.
Speaker 1: Johnny comes to and he's being arrested by his boss
Speaker 1: for bank robbery and like expecsory to murder again wild
Speaker 1: why he is an undercover agent?
Speaker 2: The video would show that he didn't shoot anybody, and
Speaker 2: then the robbers hit him in the head on the
Speaker 2: way out, and that.
Speaker 1: He's being pretty much dragged in there against his will.
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't he cover his face?
Speaker 1: This makes no sense, but that's part of the term
Speaker 1: of the PHO, I think. And he's like, you're under arrest, utah,
Speaker 1: And at this point Papus is like, you know what,
Speaker 1: fuck you and he punches the director in the face.
Speaker 2: Knocks him out with one punch and is like, let's
Speaker 2: get out of here. Let's get those guys.
Speaker 1: Yes, So then they go off. Johnny knows where they're
Speaker 1: going because he heard their plan. They're heading to Santamana Airport,
Speaker 1: go to Santa Monica Airport. The only thing is Papa's
Speaker 1: we can't hurt them or arrest them because they have
Speaker 1: a hostage and we need to protect her. Papas is
Speaker 1: not happy about it, but he's gonna do it anyway.
Speaker 2: Right, it's gonna listen to listen to his young protege.
Speaker 1: So they get to the airport and it all escalates
Speaker 1: very quickly. Body and Johnny get into like a John
Speaker 1: dickswinging content. Johnny does this like Kennery's this is amazing,
Speaker 1: I'm not armed twirl Yeah. He's like, I'm not armed,
Speaker 1: and he does like a full like I don't know
Speaker 1: ballet enough, but like.
Speaker 2: A PK turn basically yes, and.
Speaker 1: He's like I'm not armed, and I'm like that was hot.
Speaker 1: Do that again. Body's gonna basically hijack this plane and
Speaker 1: take it to Mexico.
Speaker 2: The pilot pops out a couple times, be like I'm
Speaker 2: not doing it, and he's like, get back in there.
Speaker 2: You're taking us to Mexico. The Pilot's like, okay, ok
Speaker 2: So it all goes south very quickly, right, there's a standoff,
Speaker 2: firefight breaks out and essentially Papus kills Nathaniel and shoots
Speaker 2: Roach and he gets killed himself. Yes, okay. When Papas
Speaker 2: gets shot and kill, Keanu is asked to shout the
Speaker 2: word no. Yeah. It's another one of those Greek tragedy
Speaker 2: moments where you have to have like the engine behind
Speaker 2: it or else. It just sounds hollow, and it sounds
Speaker 2: so hollow. It just it just lands as a joke.
Speaker 2: It's just I laughed, yes, And I mean the body
Speaker 2: count on this movie is skyrocketing in the last five
Speaker 2: minutes and I'm laughing at like one of the main
Speaker 2: characters being murdered.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, so there's a there's like a scene where
Speaker 1: Nathaniel like kind of dies in Bodie's arms and body
Speaker 1: gets so angry and he basically forces Johnny onto the
Speaker 1: plane with him, which this decision I especially don't understand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he forces Johnny onto the plane. He gets Roach, he's wounded,
Speaker 1: who's deeply wounded and is bleeding out, and Johnny's like
Speaker 1: leave him. He's dying, like's if he stays at the airport,
Speaker 1: he'll get medical attention. Yeah, and he's they're like, fuck off, man.
Speaker 1: He puts a parachute on roach. Body does he puts
Speaker 1: a parachute on himself. He tells the pilot to fly
Speaker 1: them over Mexico. They jump out of the airplane and
Speaker 1: they leave Johnny there with a gun. For some I
Speaker 1: don't understand any of their motivation, any of body's motivation.
Speaker 2: And it's a big gun too. It's like one of
Speaker 2: those Western like a long.
Speaker 1: Nozzle three fifty seven magnum or whatever. It's like a dirty,
Speaker 1: hairy gun.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He like throws the gun at Johnny before he like
Speaker 1: jumps off the plane. Before that happens, Johnny is like, okay,
Speaker 1: they have Rosie like on the on the walkie talking
Speaker 1: and he's like, tell him to let Tyler go. You
Speaker 1: don't know that your parachute's going to open. At least
Speaker 1: let Tyler go before anything else. I'm already dead anyway.
Speaker 1: For some reason, Body's like fuck you, man, and he
Speaker 1: won't do it. My theory is Body is so in
Speaker 1: love with Johnny and he's now jealous that, like Johnny
Speaker 1: has this girlfriend.
Speaker 2: He kind of wants Tyler to die.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if I can't have him, No, one can't exactly.
Speaker 1: So he jumps out of the airplane and then, in
Speaker 1: the greatest moment in the movie, Keanner Reads jumps after
Speaker 1: him with no parachute. He takes the gun and he
Speaker 1: dives in the air, chasing after the criminal that He's like,
Speaker 1: it's like an FBI agent thing where he's like, no,
Speaker 1: I have to get my criminal. I have to make
Speaker 1: this arrest.
Speaker 2: He lands on the top of Body in midair and
Speaker 2: they're grappling in midair, face to face, centimeters from their
Speaker 2: lips meeting.
Speaker 1: A and Johnny's like, pull the cord, man, because they're
Speaker 1: getting close to the ground, and Body's like, Nope, you
Speaker 1: can't hold the gun and pull the cord. You drop
Speaker 1: the gun and you pull the cord. Basically, they're playing
Speaker 1: chicken again, and Johnny finally drops his gun, pulls the cord.
Speaker 1: They still land really hard because they waited too long
Speaker 1: to pull the cord. Johnny's ne goes out again. It's
Speaker 1: fucking me. Body makes a clean getaway. Roach is already
Speaker 1: dead before he hits the ground. Rosie is waiting for them.
Speaker 1: He lets Tyler go j lingerie. Tyler runs to Johnny.
Speaker 1: I will say, here's the caveat to the you lied
Speaker 1: to me about your dead parents thing. If the person
Speaker 1: then tracks you to Mexico to rescue you from your kidnapper,
Speaker 1: I might give him a second chance.
Speaker 2: Fair, that's fair.
Speaker 1: He can't fuck up again, but I'm gonna give him
Speaker 1: a second chance, which she seems to do.
Speaker 2: It's a two strike situation.
Speaker 1: So she hugs him. She's so thrilled, and the two
Speaker 1: and Body and Rosie drive off, leaving Tyler and Johnny
Speaker 1: in the Mexican desert.
Speaker 2: In the middle of the desert, no one knows where
Speaker 2: they are. Papus his dad, He's not even gonna be
Speaker 2: looking for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so sure, sure, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Months later we cut I think a year later even.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kannarooves. His hair is longer now, so you know,
Speaker 1: time is passed.
Speaker 2: He looks less attractive of the longer hair. He should
Speaker 2: have kept it. Disagree.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's that is an unfortunate opinion. All right, we'll
Speaker 1: just do with that what we have to.
Speaker 2: Yep, he's at Bell's Beach in Australia. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 2: massive storm there, just like Body said there would be
Speaker 2: it's the fifty year storm.
Speaker 1: A bunch of surfers are leaving the beach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're basically like, if you go out there, you're dead. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And he walks up and he finds body contemplating the ocean.
Speaker 2: His hair has been cut. This entire I don't feel
Speaker 2: like we've given enough attention to Patrick Swayzey's hair. This
Speaker 2: entire movie is.
Speaker 1: His glorious mane of sun kissed hair.
Speaker 2: Like a lion. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know who wears a sun tan very well,
Speaker 1: Paul Patrick. This movie has everything.
Speaker 2: So they get into a fight. They start literally beating
Speaker 2: the shit of each other on the speech during this
Speaker 2: very strong storm.
Speaker 1: It is like it is like King Lear. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: fighting in the water.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Kanu, by the way, is wearing like head to toe denim,
Speaker 1: so that has to be uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then Keanu and Body gets the better of him.
Speaker 2: Body's holding his head underwater. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Body's actually like about to kill Johnny, or at least
Speaker 1: some do Johnny. And then Johnny grabs his handcuffs and
Speaker 1: handcuffs himself to body, which I think was his intention
Speaker 1: the whole time.
Speaker 2: Yep, he just didn't want Body to get away again. No.
Speaker 1: There's even a line at one point where body's like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose your man this time. So body's like no.
Speaker 1: So just as Johnny handcuffs himself to body, a couple
Speaker 1: of helicopters arrived with a bunch of cops, Australian cops
Speaker 1: swarming the beach or coming down the beach, and Body's like,
Speaker 1: you can't do this to me, man, I'm never gonna
Speaker 1: survive if I have to be put in a cage.
Speaker 1: Let me ride one more wave, let me go out there,
Speaker 1: and then they cut to the ocean and it is
Speaker 1: a comically like it is a two hundred fIF fucking wave.
Speaker 1: It's a tsunami heading towards them, and he's like, let
Speaker 1: me go, man, let me ride this one more wave.
Speaker 1: I've got to do it. And like the cops are
Speaker 1: swarming this beach and they're both they're both drenched and
Speaker 1: they both look incredibly attractive, and Keanu goes via a kundos,
Speaker 1: which is my actual favorite line in the room.
Speaker 2: He says it with less inflection than what you used to.
Speaker 2: It's he says via con.
Speaker 1: He doesn't say dios correctly though, like he's good Dios
Speaker 1: manages to really really ring, ring all the Spanish out
Speaker 1: of that word.
Speaker 2: It's almost via con.
Speaker 1: Via condos dios, and he unhandcuffs Patrick Swayzey body goes
Speaker 1: off into the ocean. All the cops are like, what
Speaker 1: have you done? And then one cop says, well, we'll
Speaker 1: just get him when he comes back. And they're all
Speaker 1: watching him surf except for Keanu, who's turned away at
Speaker 1: this point. And he throws his FBI badge in the
Speaker 1: ocean and he goes He's not coming back from this one.
Speaker 2: End of movie.
Speaker 1: I love this movie.
Speaker 2: It's perfect stick around. We'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 2: We're back, and we're going to ring a little more
Speaker 2: love out of point break with some random observations Erica,
Speaker 2: what you got?
Speaker 1: One of my favorite Harp lines is, uh, I guess
Speaker 1: we must have ourselves an asshole shortage. Huh. This is
Speaker 1: his boss. You know what, when you start a new job,
Speaker 1: if in the first ten minutes your boss is like,
Speaker 1: you're an asshole, just leave, don't you know what. I
Speaker 1: don't need this.
Speaker 2: It's not worth it.
Speaker 1: It's not worth it.
Speaker 2: Something else is Harp says to him on his first days.
Speaker 2: I know you young, dumb and full of cumb is nice?
Speaker 2: Is something straight men say to each other.
Speaker 1: I feel like this movie was written by like, I
Speaker 1: don't know who the writer is, but this movie was
Speaker 1: like written as a gay allegory and he doesn't understand
Speaker 1: straight talk at all, and it's like just winging it.
Speaker 1: That line, by the way, that I was looking for
Speaker 1: h with body. At the end, when he's about to
Speaker 1: jump off the airplane, he goes, looks like, this time
Speaker 1: you won't be getting your man this game we both lose.
Speaker 1: I'm like, if that's not a confession of love, I
Speaker 1: don't know what the fuck is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is at one point Kean who has to say,
Speaker 2: the name's Johnny Utah.
Speaker 1: The name's Johnny Utah.
Speaker 2: Of course it is, dear.
Speaker 1: The fashion report isn't great. Keanu blessedly just really has
Speaker 1: to wear like a T shirt and jean the whole movies,
Speaker 1: he suit. He looks great. As discussed, Patrick Swayzey can
Speaker 1: make anything work. Poor Lori Petty does a lot of
Speaker 1: the heavy lifting with the nineties clothing, and at one
Speaker 1: point they have her wearing jean shorts with no underwear
Speaker 1: because she changes on the beach and jean shorts but
Speaker 1: with no underwear, and I'm like, oh her, her lady
Speaker 1: is getting get all toro. I don't care for this
Speaker 1: wet jean shorts.
Speaker 2: There's a part on the beach where they have to
Speaker 2: light up the campfire and they have like a bottle
Speaker 2: of kerosene or gasoline or something, and than just opening
Speaker 2: it and dumping the kerosene on the fire, they have
Speaker 2: to take a gigantic bowie knife and like cut it
Speaker 2: open and then pour it in. This movie has everything.
Speaker 1: It doesn't it feel like a fever dream like you're
Speaker 1: talking about. It's a stuff on sketch. This movie has
Speaker 1: every It has the guy from Scrubs. It has Gary Busey.
Speaker 2: The first skydive in a moment of perfect camp I
Speaker 2: don't know if you notice this. It goes by very quickly.
Speaker 2: Bodie is the first person to jump out of the
Speaker 2: plane and Patrick Swayzey does it in a perfect pike position.
Speaker 1: Yes he does, Yes, yes he does. Patrick Swayzey is
Speaker 1: so good. You're right, he is the best actor in
Speaker 1: the movie. But well, you know, I would actually argue
Speaker 1: that Gary Busey does an excellent job to get like
Speaker 1: he does the part he's meant to play, right, But
Speaker 1: Patrick Swayzey brings so much like joy to this character.
Speaker 1: He's great, He's really something. Other line that I I
Speaker 1: was like, what the fuck? It's same. It's in the
Speaker 1: FBI office when when Pappus is telling Johnny about the
Speaker 1: gang and he's like, then they're gone. They vanish like
Speaker 1: a virgin on prom night. I don't like that. Don't
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 2: When in the plane during the right before the last dive,
Speaker 2: when body is about to like load the dying roach
Speaker 2: out of the plane and his last words, his last
Speaker 2: line of the movie is I'll see you in hell, Johnny. Ah,
Speaker 2: these are not hippies. These surfers are not peace loving.
Speaker 1: That's right, because Johnny's like, I hope you enjoyed dying
Speaker 1: in midair roach, Fuck you man.
Speaker 2: I have one more. We didn't talk about the scene much,
Speaker 2: but the scene right before Johnny and Tyler sleep together
Speaker 2: on the beach. She must have been so comfortable. What
Speaker 2: a wonderful first night together. They have them like in
Speaker 2: the ocean on their surfboards and they start making out
Speaker 2: in the ocean. I swear there is a moment where
Speaker 2: you can actually see Lori Petty's lips trembling. If you
Speaker 2: think about how cold they must have been, sure, sitting in
Speaker 2: the ocean at night. The shot is beautiful, gorgeous, breathtaking,
Speaker 2: but they must have been freezing cold. Yeah, and they're
Speaker 2: going for the kiss and I swear you can see
Speaker 2: her lips just like trembling is just be like, I'm
Speaker 2: so fucking cold. This shot better be it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, this better looks so good? Paul, how are we
Speaker 1: going to rate.
Speaker 2: Point break one to ten?
Speaker 1: Buttholes one to ten via condiosis.
Speaker 2: One to ten. This movie has everything.
Speaker 1: This movie has everything, Paul. Would you like to go first?
Speaker 2: Or shall I? You know what? You go first? I
Speaker 2: want you to have this moment.
Speaker 1: Ten out of ten. This might be my first.
Speaker 2: Ten out of ten. It's not death becomes Her Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So here's the thing. Is it a good movie? No,
Speaker 1: here's a shit. It's directed by a woman, it stars
Speaker 1: an Asian man. There's not that many other people of color.
Speaker 1: But I'll give it. But that level of diversity for
Speaker 1: nineteen nine one was astounding. As it is, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It is so entertaining. Ten out of motherfucking tens, this
Speaker 1: movie has everything.
Speaker 2: This is a good time to point out that many
Speaker 2: people forget that Keanu Reeves is Asian of Asian descent.
Speaker 2: We should say everyone should be required to say Keanu
Speaker 2: Reeves is a person of color and Catherine Zida Jones
Speaker 2: is not. Keanu Reeves is a person of color and
Speaker 2: Katherine Zida Jones is not. Okay, I'm not quite as
Speaker 2: high as the movie as you are. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun. Everything you said, who cares?
Speaker 2: Is it a good movie? No, but it's a fun movie.
Speaker 1: It's the best. It's so fun, it's.
Speaker 2: So entertaining, it's it's what the phrase popcorn entertainment was
Speaker 2: created for. Like, it's dumb and Keanu Reeves is bad
Speaker 2: in it.
Speaker 1: It's young, dumb and full of cos.
Speaker 2: There it is. I'm gonna give it an eight. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna given an eight out of ten. This movie has everything.
Speaker 2: I think it goes really violent at the end, and
Speaker 2: I actually think if they had made Body believe in
Speaker 2: his own bullshit enough that he really didn't like, like
Speaker 2: if they turned him into a sociopath, and I think
Speaker 2: he would have been more interesting as a person of
Speaker 2: feeling who actually like bought his own shit a little
Speaker 2: bit more. Yeah, because in the beginning, when you think
Speaker 2: that's what he is, I find him more compelling. In
Speaker 2: the end, when they have him go full villain, I
Speaker 2: actually find him less compelling. And I should we should
Speaker 2: stop saying sociopath because like, like they have him not care.
Speaker 1: No, I think he's pretty much a sociopath, right.
Speaker 2: I just mean I don't know exactly what the diagnosis
Speaker 2: is and don't want to use the word incorrectly.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I mean he just he is very he's
Speaker 1: like a cult leader, right, so he's more interested in
Speaker 1: his own cult of personality than he is in anyone
Speaker 1: else's feeling. Well maybe I don't know. Maybe he loves Johnny, Yeah,
Speaker 1: who knows.
Speaker 2: Well, and he seems to love like his guys, like
Speaker 2: his his his followers.
Speaker 1: It's true.
Speaker 2: And now I'm just writing a different movie, so whatever.
Speaker 2: But like, I think it would have held together at
Speaker 2: the end more if like if they were going to
Speaker 2: kill all these guys, like have him start to go
Speaker 2: wrong because his followers are being killed. What if the
Speaker 2: first guy was killed before he told him to go
Speaker 2: for the vault. Let that amp up, so you see
Speaker 2: him start to lose control, as opposed to him just
Speaker 2: being like, I'm going to kill this girl, this woman
Speaker 2: that I used to sleep with.
Speaker 1: I don't think he ever had any intention of killing her.
Speaker 2: I think the movie wants you to believe he will, though, Well,
Speaker 2: he said I couldn't do it. That's why I have
Speaker 2: Rosie there. He'll cut her like a fish, that's true.
Speaker 2: So he's definitely putting her in danger, or he certainly
Speaker 2: wants Johnny to think he is. Yeah, so it kind
Speaker 2: of falls apart a little bit at the end. For me,
Speaker 2: this is structural shit on a movie that you should
Speaker 2: not think about. Structural shit.
Speaker 1: I was actually just thinking about this too, And there's
Speaker 1: so much toxic masculinity in the film that the silliness
Speaker 1: of it I think actually takes a lot of the
Speaker 1: edge off. Yeah, because it could have been really hard
Speaker 1: to watch with the like no female characters. All the
Speaker 1: guys are like these dick swinging like all the FBI
Speaker 1: agents are like insufferable. Of the surf Nazis are insufferable.
Speaker 1: This gang of ex Presidents is pretty insufferable most of
Speaker 1: the movie, except for Body. But the silliness really takes
Speaker 1: the edge off of all of that. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: like you're like, I don't, I like, like I could
Speaker 1: watch these FBI agents scream at each other all day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I don't take them seriously at all. So I
Speaker 1: know that's certainly not the intention, but that is the result,
Speaker 1: and I kind of love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, So I'm gonna stick like eight out
Speaker 2: of ten. This movie has everything. No palate cleanser.
Speaker 1: Do you need a palate cleanser?
Speaker 2: I don't think so. It's exactly what it is. It
Speaker 2: it doesn't try to be anything other than what it is.
Speaker 2: We have broken it down for you if it sounds
Speaker 2: like something you would like. It is streaming for free
Speaker 2: on Showtime right now. It's fun. It's a fun, fun movie.
Speaker 2: Watch it on a plane. Actually, don't watch it on
Speaker 2: a plane because you want to be able to see
Speaker 2: the shots of the ocean, which really are I think
Speaker 2: could have been award winning. Yeah, like they're gorgeous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no palate cleansers here either, surprise.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else that we have to say about
Speaker 2: this movie?
Speaker 1: This movie has everything. It has someone throwing a pit
Speaker 1: bull at someone else.
Speaker 2: It has Patrick Swayzey doing a full pike at eight
Speaker 2: thousand feet.
Speaker 1: It has Patrick Swayzey's glorious mane of sunkissed hair.
Speaker 2: It has Keanu Reeves yelling no.
Speaker 1: It has baby Kristen Stewart.
Speaker 2: It has a hot magenta surfboard.
Speaker 1: It has Keanu Reeves saying I am.
Speaker 2: An FBI agent, and it has buttles.
Speaker 1: Johnny Utah says to Tyler, what's he searching for? And
Speaker 1: she goes the ride, the ultimate ride.
Speaker 2: Johnny'll give him the Ultimate ride, Yes, he will,