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Speaker 1: Thursday is the time of week I certainly look forward to.
Speaker 1: It's a discussion with iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Ratliffe. Welcome, back,
Speaker 1: my friend. Love having you on the show. Good morning.
Speaker 3: If I sound bummed, it's because the stock markets closed today,
Speaker 3: so I'm kind of lost.
Speaker 1: June teenth and a happy Juneteenth. All those folks out
Speaker 1: there that are celebrating the very important holiday can't discount
Speaker 1: the importance of it. Flipping over aviation is I want
Speaker 1: to start with the Air India plane crash. Obviously that
Speaker 1: this story broke last week when we were talking, and
Speaker 1: the timing couldn't have been better in light of the tragedy.
Speaker 1: Of course, we had very little information at the time,
Speaker 1: a lot of speculation, and I've seen swirling speculation since then.
Speaker 1: Have we learned anything specifically about the cause, the nature
Speaker 1: of the crash, or anything else along those lines, Jay Ratliff.
Speaker 3: We have a little bit more of brand, not much.
Speaker 3: The good news is both black boxes have been recorded.
Speaker 3: The we've been recovered the cockpit voice recorder is was
Speaker 3: the last one that they found. This was one that
Speaker 3: if it's not been damaged by the fire, the heat,
Speaker 3: the magnetic tapes that make up the black box, they're
Speaker 3: going to be able to hear the pilot's conversations back
Speaker 3: and forth. They're going to hear the alarms in the cockpit,
Speaker 3: they're going to hear the discussions on trying to solve
Speaker 3: the problem at hand. The first black box they found
Speaker 3: was the flight data recorder. That's going to give them
Speaker 3: all the instrument readings, all the headings when things were changed,
Speaker 3: what was operational, what was malfunctioning. Those black boxes are
Speaker 3: going to be critical given the fact that we don't
Speaker 3: have sadly the flight crew to interview to talk to
Speaker 3: that type of thing with everybody but one soul on
Speaker 3: board perishing, so that's important. The other thing that they
Speaker 3: were able to determine is apparently the RAM, the RAM
Speaker 3: air turbine was deployed. This is a little propeller thing
Speaker 3: that is designed on these aircraft that if there's a
Speaker 3: power loss, it drops down in this propeller speed that
Speaker 3: turns it almost the speed of sound, and it provides
Speaker 3: some basic electrical power to the flight deck. So that
Speaker 3: issue it is in essence, yeah, it was. It was
Speaker 3: deployed and from some of the pictures, apparently it was down.
Speaker 3: Now that's a critical piece of data because if we're
Speaker 3: interpreting that right, that would mean that they were experiencing
Speaker 3: some sort of a power issue and that would make
Speaker 3: sense from the standpoint that you and I remember we're
Speaker 3: talking about, why in the world was the landing gear down? Yeah,
Speaker 3: because typically as the airplane takes off within fifty feet,
Speaker 3: they rotate, they come off the ground the and the
Speaker 3: gear is immediately retracted because then it becomes more of
Speaker 3: an aerodynamic aircraft, easier to take off. All that, although
Speaker 3: the fact if it was down doesn't mean that it
Speaker 3: would cause the airplane to crash, But if there was
Speaker 3: a hydraulic problem where they had engine power issues, you
Speaker 3: would not have the power required to retract the gear,
Speaker 3: So that might explain the fact that the crew was
Speaker 3: fighting some sort of a lack of power issues. So
Speaker 3: right now, that's kind of some of the leading thoughts,
Speaker 3: And of course the investigation. Normally about a week to
Speaker 3: ten days after the black boxes are received, the investigated
Speaker 3: bodies will provide some sort of an initial update letting
Speaker 3: us know if the black boxes had any information, are
Speaker 3: they still going to be good to look at, And
Speaker 3: then about thirty days after we get another update, and
Speaker 3: then typically nothing until the final report eight to twelve
Speaker 3: months out. So with seventy nine airlines around the world
Speaker 3: using these Boeing Dreamliners a nearly twelve hundred of them
Speaker 3: flying around. If there's any sort of a mechanical concern,
Speaker 3: we need to find out what it is as quickly
Speaker 3: as we can, because you know you've got that. But
Speaker 3: you know, this isn't like a Boeing Max issue. This
Speaker 3: is not a new airplane that just rolled out with
Speaker 3: a lot of new upgrades and software packages. This is
Speaker 3: an airplane that's been flown five million times, more than
Speaker 3: a billion passengers over the last fourteen fifteen years with
Speaker 3: no serious issues like this. So it's a completely different
Speaker 3: than what we had before. But you know, obviously some
Speaker 3: big concerns and we got to find out what happened.
Speaker 1: Well, I have to ask, maybe it sounds like a
Speaker 1: stupid question to you, but if there was an electrical problem,
Speaker 1: and would that cause both engines to shut down completely?
Speaker 1: I mean that interconnected, that a complete electrical outage would
Speaker 1: prevent the engines from operating.
Speaker 3: You're talking about two independently operating systems. That's kind of
Speaker 3: what I was hoping failure. It's like a trillion to
Speaker 3: one possibility. The only reason typically that you'd have a
Speaker 3: dual engine failure would be if a you had a
Speaker 3: bird ingestion, which apparently did not happen, even though some
Speaker 3: people are still leaning to that like we did with
Speaker 3: the miracle on the Huston. But you know, one of
Speaker 3: the things you and I talked about last Thursday was
Speaker 3: when I first saw that video of the aircraft, there
Speaker 3: was no signs of aircraft to stress. There wasn't any
Speaker 3: smoke coming out of the engines, no sparks, no flames,
Speaker 3: the things you would typically see if there was an
Speaker 3: ingestion of any kind that would cause the aircraft engine
Speaker 3: to start to malfunction. The engines apparently had you know,
Speaker 3: no smoke or anything like that. And the other thing
Speaker 3: would be fuel contamination if you had water in the
Speaker 3: fuel or something like that that has happened before, that
Speaker 3: would cause the engines to not operate. But most of
Speaker 3: the time you wouldn't be able to take off, you
Speaker 3: wouldn't have the.
Speaker 1: Power to do right.
Speaker 3: So that's also kind of a well it's a theory,
Speaker 3: but and really, right now, that's all we have is
Speaker 3: a bunch of theories to try to explain this. Because
Speaker 3: this is the worst disaster we've had in two decades,
Speaker 3: and to have an airplane just fall out of the
Speaker 3: sky like that is horrific and it's also something that
Speaker 3: typically doesn't happen. And that's why the investigators are going
Speaker 3: to be you know, the Indian officials are going to
Speaker 3: be charge the National Transportation Safety Board and Boeing is
Speaker 3: going to be there to assist, and those investigators are
Speaker 3: going to try to do, like we say all the time,
Speaker 3: honor the lives of those that were lost by finding
Speaker 3: out what happened, and Brian, I'm confident they will and
Speaker 3: we'll learn from it make aviation safer as a result.
Speaker 3: But right now there's no clear cut indication of what
Speaker 3: caused those engines to simply not provide the thrust that's
Speaker 3: required to get that airplane off the ground.
Speaker 1: Hopefully were revealed by the black boxes. Will continue with
Speaker 1: Jay Rattleff after these brief words, if you can stick
Speaker 1: around fifty five the talk station open. Aye is a
Speaker 1: financial abomination. I heart media aviation expert. Yeah, Jay, I
Speaker 1: was just thinking about you. Normally I get some email
Speaker 1: from you after our conversation telling me how much money
Speaker 1: you made during our conversation trade and stocks and your
Speaker 1: stock method. Yeah, daytrade fund dot com, but not today.
Speaker 1: I know. Let's get ready to start off with that.
Speaker 1: It's like, wait a second, you already got that.
Speaker 3: Same But I'm sure to say TGI I am because
Speaker 3: you know our group, my students. I love Mondays because
Speaker 3: you can't trade stocks on the weekend. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't think TG I am is going to be a
Speaker 3: phrase it's going to catch on to too easily.
Speaker 1: You can sell them at daytrade fund dot com.
Speaker 3: You gotta yeah, I mean, but nobody's gonna love Mondays
Speaker 3: other than than those of us who use the market languages.
Speaker 1: Amen, brother, real quick here. You may have said this already.
Speaker 1: I know you said. The investigation of the Air India
Speaker 1: plash crashes, it's going to be a year before they
Speaker 1: reach final conclusions or something. How long do you think
Speaker 1: it's going to be before the general public has an
Speaker 1: understanding of what the black boxes suggest that the conversations
Speaker 1: are reporting on, you know, various components or information that's
Speaker 1: on those black boxes.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking within the next week. I'm hoping before you
Speaker 3: and I talk again next Thursday, there will be some
Speaker 3: sort of of an announcement because they've had the black
Speaker 3: boxes for several days and the first question is are
Speaker 3: we going to be able to use these for answers,
Speaker 3: and I think that's something that they're going to come
Speaker 3: out with in the next few days and say, hey,
Speaker 3: the good news is they're not damaged past the point
Speaker 3: of us being able to retrieve the data that we need,
Speaker 3: and that's certainly going to be good news. And of
Speaker 3: course the next question is going to be what are
Speaker 3: you finding out? And they may or may not give
Speaker 3: an indication of what the investigation is beginning to uncover.
Speaker 3: And that's the reason that the National Transfertation Safety for
Speaker 3: I call them an all star team here in the
Speaker 3: United States. They're so good at what they do, Briant
Speaker 3: that they allow the evidence to dictate the course of
Speaker 3: the investigation. None of the investigative teams is going to
Speaker 3: go into this thinking, well, this is what we think happened,
Speaker 3: and let's look for evidence to support that they've learned.
Speaker 3: Because of how good they are, we're going to allow
Speaker 3: the evidence to dictate what we look at and look
Speaker 3: for the sequence of events that could have led to
Speaker 3: this type of tragedy taking place. And you know, when
Speaker 3: you have so much video that captures this horrific event,
Speaker 3: it's a the mindset of so many people around the world,
Speaker 3: and you know, we want answers and we want him now,
Speaker 3: but that takes.
Speaker 1: Time, certainly. Well again, hopefully we'll have something sooner rather
Speaker 1: than later on that because we are all wildly curious
Speaker 1: a coffee spill. I mean, it's like the McDonald's case.
Speaker 1: Woman spills coffee on herself and ends up getting millions
Speaker 1: of dollars. And we got an airline flight attendants spilling
Speaker 1: coffee on a passenger and enter a lawsuit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this happened two years ago, and typically they have
Speaker 3: two years to.
Speaker 1: File the court the lawsuit.
Speaker 3: And yep, this happened on I think with Scandinavian Airlines
Speaker 3: or Sitting International Airline where the coffee was spilled, and
Speaker 3: the woman is suing for ten million dollars for all
Speaker 3: these things that have happened to her. And the ps
Speaker 3: to this is the husband is suing for one million
Speaker 3: dollars because he's lost the services of his wife. Now, Brian,
Speaker 3: I almost stopped reading at that point because I didn't
Speaker 3: want to know much more past at but yeah, he
Speaker 3: is also doing for a million dollars for those reasons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm guessing it landed in her lap.
Speaker 3: It did, and uh, she had she'd have some surgery
Speaker 3: and some other things. And you know the thought was
Speaker 3: that it was too and look, we all kind of chuckled,
Speaker 3: not chuckle, chuckle, but you know when the McDonald's lawsuit
Speaker 3: came out. But you know, we see where that went.
Speaker 3: So you never know where this is gonna gonna go.
Speaker 3: But I don't like drinking coffee on an airline because
Speaker 3: the water lines on the aircraft are not cleaned. And
Speaker 3: when you look at the making photos of these, yeah, bloods,
Speaker 3: its just no. Bring it on to yourself, please leave, leave,
Speaker 3: leave now. You don't see the flight of standing around
Speaker 3: sipping on coffee or drinking the water for a reason.
Speaker 3: And if you're not eating your bread, but you want
Speaker 3: to google some of these images, you can. But I'm
Speaker 3: I do not cherry, and I will bring our coffee
Speaker 3: on board because I will not. I'm sorry, I will
Speaker 3: not well that.
Speaker 1: You know valuable information. I do appreciate you passing along,
Speaker 1: but Lord Almighty, that has just got me completely grossed out.
Speaker 3: Give a zero for timing. I my apologies.
Speaker 1: No, no, listen, man, I made a comment about hotel
Speaker 1: rooms and how I'll never use a hotel room coffee maker,
Speaker 1: because I've seen online videos about perverts and weirdos out
Speaker 1: there and the kind of thing they do generally speaking
Speaker 1: in hotel rooms. You know, you don't want to hear
Speaker 1: about it. It grosses you out, but it's valuable information. Nonetheless,
Speaker 1: pause will.
Speaker 3: Bring you the criminal minds of you know, black lights. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll frick Jack Ratliff back for one more.
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Speaker 1: Eighty eight fifty five KRC detalk station closing out a
Speaker 1: Thursday on a positive note with iHeart need the aviation
Speaker 1: expert Jay rat left pivoting over Terry Bradshaw, apparently dealing
Speaker 1: with the TSA. What's the story all about? Jay Ratlift,
Speaker 1: who was going through.
Speaker 3: An airport, was selected for secondary screening, so they pulled
Speaker 3: him off to the side. He took his shoes off,
Speaker 3: went through all of his luggage item by item by item,
Speaker 3: and then did the enhanced pat down and then took
Speaker 3: him to another room, did another pat down, and he's like, look,
Speaker 3: I'm all for security, but this is ridiculous. He cooperated,
Speaker 3: he went along with it fine, but he just didn't
Speaker 3: understand why. You know, he was the one being he said,
Speaker 3: singled out and it's a random thing. At the security checkpoint.
Speaker 3: One of the things that they do to add an
Speaker 3: extra layer of security is to introduce a random element
Speaker 3: to the screening. Every so often a passengers pulled out
Speaker 3: for that additional screening, and there's a purpose for it,
Speaker 3: and when it happens to Terry Bradshaw becomes a viral moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and you know, as is so often the case,
Speaker 1: Not that I'm racially profiling or anything, but you know,
Speaker 1: the people that they randomly select quite often the other
Speaker 1: like eighty nine year old women in wheelchairs and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. It's like, are you serious You're gonna pull
Speaker 1: something like that out and subjected to a body cavity search.
Speaker 1: Does she look like a terrorist? Does she look like
Speaker 1: someone who represents a danger to society?
Speaker 3: I mean no, But but Brian, I will say this,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of times the elderly are used to
Speaker 3: smuggle things through.
Speaker 1: By other people.
Speaker 3: So many times we're not worried about them, We're worried
Speaker 3: about you know, especially some that may maybe from a
Speaker 3: memory standpoint.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I get that point. I'm glad you made it,
Speaker 1: because you know, it's easy to you know, dupe the
Speaker 1: senior population that tend to be far more trust thing.
Speaker 1: And of course you could handle me like a kilo
Speaker 1: of cocaine or stuff another purse or something like that
Speaker 1: they might not even be aware that they've got it.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, fair enough, exactly, all right. Now,
Speaker 1: Skytracks apparently looking into the airlines the best in the world.
Speaker 1: Who should we be flying with? According to Skytracks, Jay.
Speaker 3: Well, let's see Cutter Caman's first, Singapore second, Tata Pacific third.
Speaker 3: And if you're interested in a see where the you know,
Speaker 3: the top US airline came in in the top twenty, Well, scroll, baby, scroll,
Speaker 3: because you're not going to find it. Someone go one
Speaker 3: to twenty. Nobody's there from the US. Is that a shocker? No,
Speaker 3: Skytracks is one of They're called the oscars of the
Speaker 3: rankings because they're the ones that they do. It's such
Speaker 3: a comprehensive. They look at customer service, maintenance, the age
Speaker 3: of fleet, there's so many things that.
Speaker 1: They look at. The water lines, Jay, the plan that.
Speaker 3: I wish they would delta came in twenty second and
Speaker 3: the next US carrier was United at fifty first word, yeah,
Speaker 3: we should be embarrassed. But airlines do not care about service, period.
Speaker 3: They care about profits, and they treat us like crap,
Speaker 3: and we keep coming back. And as I say all
Speaker 3: the time, there is zero incentive for an airline to
Speaker 3: change how they treat us because we keep coming back,
Speaker 3: we keep building up the airplanes, they keep making a
Speaker 3: billion dollars a year, whatever it happens to be. You
Speaker 3: see Delta and American and I believe United, who have
Speaker 3: changed their upgrade procedures. I'm getting so many emails from
Speaker 3: people of Delta saying, Jay, I'm a freaking flyer. I
Speaker 3: normally can upgrade from coach to first class. I'm now
Speaker 3: boarding flights being told I can't be putting first and
Speaker 3: there's five empty seats in first class because now Delta
Speaker 3: and others are like, well, you either need to burn
Speaker 3: miles or pay for that seat. They're ticking off their
Speaker 3: frequent flyers and they do not care. And that's the
Speaker 3: reason that when you take a lot of these customer
Speaker 3: service rankings, that there's no US airline that ever ever
Speaker 3: makes the top twenty from the world standpoint, which you know,
Speaker 3: we should be in the top ten, we should be
Speaker 3: dominating some of these things, and we never are.
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more but your service. But let me
Speaker 1: ask you this. Your airlines in the business are making money.
Speaker 1: So are the top twenty on the list. They're in
Speaker 1: the bus some making money. That's how they exist as
Speaker 1: a transporting people via aircraft. So how is it that
Speaker 1: their business model allows them to provide such wonderful By contrast,
Speaker 1: customer service and a flight experience when we dealt or
Speaker 1: cant here.
Speaker 3: It's their focus. And when you have people that fly
Speaker 3: international airlines many times for the first time, I get
Speaker 3: emails from people around the country. Jay, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: I'd sitting and coach and I had more room, the
Speaker 3: food was good, that people are actually nice to me.
Speaker 3: It was a totally different experience. It's like they've been
Speaker 3: transported back forty years in time here in the United States.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good time.
Speaker 3: When you were you felt appreciated. But you know, these days,
Speaker 3: it's not it's a cattle call, it's Black Friday. It's
Speaker 3: they shove you on the airplane load factors. You know,
Speaker 3: thirty years ago, forty fifty percent of the airplane was full.
Speaker 3: Now that's eighty to ninety five percent of the plane's full.
Speaker 3: You've got people trying to carry on more bags than ever,
Speaker 3: and they swing them in the aisle to making out
Speaker 3: two or three passengers at a time. And it's it's
Speaker 3: so frustrating that some people say, Jay, I just don't
Speaker 3: want to fly anymore because of the hassle. We'll take
Speaker 3: extra time and we'll drive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be.
Speaker 3: Not as safe to drive. Then we'll share and I
Speaker 3: do a lot more driving than flying. We're tired of it.
Speaker 3: We instead of flying back and forth to Savannah, while
Speaker 3: we also carry a lot of stuff back and forth
Speaker 3: for some reason still, but you know, we load up
Speaker 3: the truck and away we go. H And I don't
Speaker 3: miss the flying because of the hassles that we have.
Speaker 3: And you know airlines be at Delta United, whoever. The
Speaker 3: focus on customer service has just never been there. And
Speaker 3: if it was, it was decades ago. And when I
Speaker 3: look at them now talking about how you know they
Speaker 3: want to provide the best service public, No, they don't.
Speaker 3: It's a profit oriented business. I understand that. And they're
Speaker 3: going to treat us anyway that they feel like.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, as we always end. Let's talk about hub delay.
Speaker 1: Is a good day to fly out there, Jay Ratliffe.
Speaker 3: You know Chicago's going to have some weather issues this morning,
Speaker 3: Atlanta this evening. Other than those two major hubs, which
Speaker 3: represents I don't know, seventy percent of the traffic that's
Speaker 3: going to be going through the airports today. It's going
Speaker 3: to be a pretty good day to fly across the country.
Speaker 3: But obviously if you're going to be going through either
Speaker 3: of those two hubs, get to the airport early just
Speaker 3: in case there are any problems with your high Tenori
Speaker 3: gives them, the agents a chance to address any problems
Speaker 3: and in stick them well in advance.
Speaker 1: I always enjoy our discussions, Jay Rattlff. Look for next
Speaker 1: Thursday with another round of the Aviation Report with our
Speaker 1: iHeartMedia aviation expert Jay Ratliffe. Love you brother and best
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