1 00:00:06,599 --> 00:00:11,439 Speaker 1: Hellllo, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to back. I don't 2 00:00:11,439 --> 00:00:12,839 know if it's dressed told you, I don't know what 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,239 it is, but it is a Stranger Things Season five, 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:21,440 The final season review. I I'm trusted, so I don't 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,280 really have a nickname. I feel like I haven't done them. 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,879 I guess. I think I even had done like clown 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,559 Prints of Crime in a very long time. But I'm here. 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,640 It is Boxing Day, ladies and gentlemen. Hope everybody yesterday 9 00:00:33,799 --> 00:00:36,640 or today whenever, because who knows. I feel like people do. 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,399 I had a friend that did Christmas like a week early, 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,679 just because the way family thing was. Some people do 12 00:00:41,799 --> 00:00:44,000 Christmas Eve, some people do it Christmas. I do it 13 00:00:44,079 --> 00:00:47,240 later today Box Day with my family. So, uh, whatever's 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,679 going on, I hope everybody's having a good Christmas. Big 15 00:00:49,679 --> 00:00:51,520 shoutut to my mother in law for doing an early 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,799 to dinner, not because of Stranger Things. We want to 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,799 get back because man getting back with it. Like whenever 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,880 you get back from Christmas, it's like, Okay, you don't 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,920 settle down until two hours hours after you get back, right, 20 00:01:02,159 --> 00:01:05,159 and usually you know the brosts. My mother in law 21 00:01:05,719 --> 00:01:09,239 lover love the family, you know, love my love. There's 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,519 some I call bros time and it works in mysterious ways. 23 00:01:12,599 --> 00:01:14,959 And if dinner is at five or six, it's really 24 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,719 at seven or eight. So luckily we got back. Everyone 25 00:01:18,799 --> 00:01:21,120 was pretty tired. So I, like I said before, I 26 00:01:21,159 --> 00:01:23,760 didn't know when this review was gonna happen, but got time. 27 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,000 The kids right now are Bill and Lego playing stuff. 28 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,239 Babies are chilling, so if you hear babies cry, that's 29 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,040 why it's one of the times. Usually try to pair 30 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,040 it with a nap or something like that. But I'm 31 00:01:32,079 --> 00:01:34,239 getting this done because then the weekend I'm just gonna 32 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,200 chill the family and hang out. So yeah, plugs down below. 33 00:01:37,239 --> 00:01:38,920 There's not too much left. I'll see done. Has a 34 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,159 Game in the Year cast coming out this Monday. Sook 35 00:01:41,159 --> 00:01:42,599 go out for that, and then I will do a 36 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,480 traps told you the Monday or Tuesday, I'll say the 37 00:01:45,519 --> 00:01:48,799 Monday right now. We'll cover the AFTAR box office and 38 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,519 anything other news going on, and yeah, it should just 39 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,519 be a fun show. So a up more casts left 40 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,200 for the twenty twenty five edition. But yeah, today everything 41 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,319 is just about stranger things as usual. Yeah, to do 42 00:02:00,359 --> 00:02:03,000 a non spoilers review, and then I will give you 43 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,799 a break because obviously you know, questionable time to release it. 44 00:02:05,879 --> 00:02:07,120 You're in the holiday. So if you want to just 45 00:02:07,159 --> 00:02:10,000 listen to my overalls and they're not be spoiling anything, 46 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,159 you will get that. I'll say, hey, we're going to spoilers. 47 00:02:12,199 --> 00:02:15,240 We'll go there quick plugs just everybody. If you would, 48 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,680 if you like what we do, or you'd like to 49 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,000 support us, please go and support us on Patreon. That's 50 00:02:20,039 --> 00:02:22,879 the best way to get the episodes because they're all 51 00:02:22,879 --> 00:02:26,319 ad free. You get the entire backlog on there. There's 52 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,240 all tons of different benefits and tiers and whatnot. We 53 00:02:29,319 --> 00:02:32,560 got four tiers. I always recommend doing the Producer tier 54 00:02:32,599 --> 00:02:34,560 because not only to get to pick the content, but 55 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,960 next year you're gonna get the most episodes ever. That 56 00:02:37,039 --> 00:02:39,280 tier for the first time ever is getting an episode, 57 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,960 and yeah, you get I think it's we said thirty episodes. 58 00:02:44,199 --> 00:02:47,000 Stay tuned for the movie perview. We have announcement. We're 59 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,159 fucking crazy. We're adding another retro. We will announce that 60 00:02:51,599 --> 00:02:53,759 in twenty twenty six, so look up for that. But 61 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,680 we're hard, So yeah, you're gonna be getting thirty plus episodes. 62 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,319 If you're on the producer tier, each tear has a 63 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,039 different amount, but yeah, if you want ad free episodes, 64 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,240 backstage phase two is usually the best. But yeah, a 65 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,280 big thank you. It is our biggest year there. We 66 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,080 got lots of other stats go over, but lots of 67 00:03:08,159 --> 00:03:10,759 multiple feeds. Was our biggest year, not the main feed. 68 00:03:10,759 --> 00:03:13,000 Twenty twenty two is still king because that was a 69 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,400 massive year, but other records broken. I'm very happy and 70 00:03:16,439 --> 00:03:18,080 I very much thank you, and I think everyone listened 71 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,439 last episode and then everyone listened to this episodes. Yeah, 72 00:03:20,479 --> 00:03:23,599 down below is everything you need to know. Joining the Discord, 73 00:03:23,599 --> 00:03:25,960 we got Stranger Things channel that to talk all that 74 00:03:26,159 --> 00:03:31,039 good jazz. So let's talk about this. So it's funny 75 00:03:31,039 --> 00:03:35,199 because last time we you know, reviewed this years ago 76 00:03:35,599 --> 00:03:37,840 was obviously when they did the split of the two right, 77 00:03:38,159 --> 00:03:40,240 And it's very tough because I've been trying not to 78 00:03:40,439 --> 00:03:42,919 other than in long form term we talk about the Discord, 79 00:03:42,919 --> 00:03:44,560 But it's one of these things of like, how do 80 00:03:44,639 --> 00:03:48,159 I feel about the season all overall? Well, excuse me, 81 00:03:48,199 --> 00:03:51,560 I couldn't like we're getting it in thirds right, So 82 00:03:51,599 --> 00:03:54,120 I just couldn't really put down as far as what 83 00:03:54,159 --> 00:03:56,520 I was feeling to me, it was a good start. 84 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,319 I'm very excited next week to update everybody that you 85 00:04:00,319 --> 00:04:02,479 were on pins and needles. But last time we got 86 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,039 no screenings whatsoever. We got screenings for The Stranger Things finale. 87 00:04:06,439 --> 00:04:09,599 Very excited. I checked this morning. Theear is completely packed. 88 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:12,120 There's one seat in the front row that's not sold yet. 89 00:04:12,159 --> 00:04:14,280 I can't remember the last time I saw a movie 90 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:16,920 that's a different cast, but I can remember last time 91 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:18,920 I saw me it was completely sold out. Like there's 92 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,959 stuff where it's like, okay, when I saw Topgun Maverick, 93 00:04:21,319 --> 00:04:25,600 very full, right, but like completely sold out. It's been 94 00:04:25,639 --> 00:04:28,199 a minute, so I'm very excited. I like a good 95 00:04:28,319 --> 00:04:30,079 sold out crowd. If it's a bunch of assholes, a 96 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,519 bunch of people that suck, then no, of course, because 97 00:04:32,519 --> 00:04:34,680 i've heard people, oh lots of people. I don't like that. 98 00:04:34,879 --> 00:04:36,600 But if you got a fun movie going crowd, like 99 00:04:36,639 --> 00:04:39,720 I always say my Endgame crowd, that was a MCU, 100 00:04:39,959 --> 00:04:43,000 super respectful crowd. People are hood and hauling at the 101 00:04:43,079 --> 00:04:45,000 right times, having a good time. So I'm very excited. 102 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,600 I should get that review up for next week. It'll 103 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,800 be probably right after that night of so look up 104 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,920 for that and less barring anything else. Right, But so 105 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,920 for this, how do I feel on Stranger Things Season five, 106 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:03,480 Volume two nonspores, Oh jeez, I feel torn. So I 107 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,040 will preference this and say I don't think it's luck. 108 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,759 I don't think we're on the way to like a 109 00:05:08,199 --> 00:05:10,240 game of thrown in scenario right where. I know there 110 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,639 are defenders of that last season, but I'm definitely someone 111 00:05:12,639 --> 00:05:15,360 in that camp where for the majority of it, it's 112 00:05:15,399 --> 00:05:17,920 mostly the last two episodes, but for the majority of it, 113 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,600 I don't think it ruined the show because I rewatch it, 114 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,160 but it was such a massive step down, right, I 115 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,959 would say this is a massive step down. But for me, 116 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,759 I have to see how the finale goes because this 117 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,839 could be slotted in the last season stuff. I think 118 00:05:33,879 --> 00:05:37,079 there's something that happens with a lot of these shows, 119 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,199 and luckily this is the last season. But there's about 120 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,040 three to four beats, and I hope I remember them. 121 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,639 I should have wrote them down because last time there 122 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,879 was a big thing that I was fucking right about 123 00:05:45,959 --> 00:05:48,120 I called months ago and I didn't get to do 124 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,879 a victory lap. I will today because it's a big 125 00:05:49,879 --> 00:05:54,279 block point. But there's just a few beats that are 126 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,959 very similar to things we've done before, right, And I 127 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,480 think there's a fine line between echoes and repeating, and 128 00:06:02,519 --> 00:06:06,240 I think there somewhere right on that, but leaning towards 129 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,279 it's feeling a little repetitive. Hey eleven, can you do this? Okay, 130 00:06:10,319 --> 00:06:12,199 we're doing this the third time. Hey, we're getting this 131 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,680 the montage. Okay, this is kind of the third time, 132 00:06:14,759 --> 00:06:17,920 especially one very specifically. We're doing this again, right, Hey, 133 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,240 character does this? Can we trust this character? Well, it's 134 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,680 been four years, I would hope so. Right. So, there's 135 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,360 a few beats that just feel and there's one that 136 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,800 they kind of flipped on their heads. So right now, 137 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,560 I'm still enjoying it. Overall, these characters are still great. Overall. 138 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,120 Writing is good for the most part. I think there's 139 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,160 a couple things with the Will character. That man, they 140 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,160 are giving them tons of monologues this season. Some are hitting. 141 00:06:43,199 --> 00:06:45,199 Some are to the point where it's just like things 142 00:06:45,199 --> 00:06:48,199 are going on, like hey, guys, let's talk, or just 143 00:06:48,199 --> 00:06:49,800 like hey, mom, I really need to tell you something, 144 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,399 like we are going into the final episode, We're going 145 00:06:53,439 --> 00:06:55,079 in the final that we're going to stuff. I really 146 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,240 need to tell you something, and there's like a Vinyl 147 00:06:57,319 --> 00:06:58,720 plot point with him that I was waiting for the 148 00:06:58,759 --> 00:07:01,160 whole time from the talk about kind of does but 149 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,360 it's like take some like twenty minutes to get there. 150 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,199 But it's like, hey, dude, like I get it, you 151 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,720 got stuff you gotta talk about. But we like the 152 00:07:09,759 --> 00:07:11,920 game is online, the clock is running out. So there's 153 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,920 a few things that way that it's like, ah, I 154 00:07:13,959 --> 00:07:16,439 don't know. The pacing feels like a little bit off, 155 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,399 and there's just a few story beats for me that 156 00:07:18,439 --> 00:07:21,680 I just haven't really enjoyed. I talk about that last 157 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,319 episode where it's like all the military stuff. Some of 158 00:07:24,319 --> 00:07:27,279 that continues not too much luckily, but then there's another 159 00:07:27,279 --> 00:07:29,720 beat that I was liking before that kind of evolved 160 00:07:29,759 --> 00:07:31,839 in something else. I go, you know, for the final season, 161 00:07:31,839 --> 00:07:34,319 I don't know if we need this here. So again, 162 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,560 like the last thoughts the volume one really enjoyed, like, hey, 163 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,800 we're on a too good start. This is not so 164 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,720 much rocky, but definitely kind of wavering where i'd rank 165 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,079 the season. It's about the finale and what's gonna happen, right. 166 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:47,920 I think there's a lot of plot armour going on 167 00:07:47,959 --> 00:07:50,279 with some more characters. There's still some great moments here. 168 00:07:50,839 --> 00:07:54,959 I think there's some fun kind of steaks putting up fun, 169 00:07:54,959 --> 00:07:56,959 I guess, but just stakes that I don't know which 170 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,000 way they're gonna go, and luckily even something with this 171 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,920 one they answered to me, I don't think they answered 172 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,639 in a clear enough way. I did talk to someone 173 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,000 that did feel that way. We'll get into spoilers. I'll say, 174 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,839 just a relationship dynamic that I was okay, didn't know 175 00:08:09,879 --> 00:08:11,480 which way I was gonna go when they picked a route, 176 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,120 and I did not think that was about they showed me. 177 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,160 You know. I thought it was maybe not the best 178 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,199 written and directed. But even then Emily was like, oh, 179 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,759 that's completely what I took from the scene. So that's 180 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,399 why different strokes for different folks, right, Art hits people 181 00:08:23,439 --> 00:08:26,920 in different ways. So yeah, right now, I enjoyed this. 182 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,560 I do think this is It does feel because Mike 183 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,639 sits and the discord for all this kind of hoopla 184 00:08:32,639 --> 00:08:35,799 about how long the episodes were and whatnot. I think 185 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,080 it's coming in season like short than season four, and 186 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,799 it feels like that a little bit. I think that's 187 00:08:40,799 --> 00:08:42,759 the one thing where there's just a moment where lots 188 00:08:42,759 --> 00:08:45,519 of the characters are back together and it is the 189 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,639 thing of man, we got a lot of people. Even 190 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,720 this season, they add I might be forgetting somebody, but 191 00:08:51,759 --> 00:08:53,519 they add like two more now to the group that 192 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,559 know everything that's going on, and I was like, we're gonna 193 00:08:55,559 --> 00:09:00,639 help you out, and it's just like all right when 194 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,919 they showing I got my snow here, when they show 195 00:09:03,039 --> 00:09:05,480 the whole group of people, it is a lot of 196 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,120 people we're getting, like not the end game portal levels, 197 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,519 but there is quite a few people that I don't know. 198 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,279 If they're gonna kill it for the can fodder, I 199 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,279 don't know. As I've said before, I don't need a 200 00:09:14,279 --> 00:09:16,879 bunch of heroes to die. I think they've done a 201 00:09:16,879 --> 00:09:19,360 few things that have made me think that certain people 202 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,000 won't die. They maybe choreographed it, but we'll see. So yeah, 203 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:28,320 right now. Enjoyed Volume two, but I didn't absolutely love it. 204 00:09:28,639 --> 00:09:30,720 Have to see also later on like a kind of 205 00:09:30,759 --> 00:09:32,840 like a rewatch, you know, because I not that I 206 00:09:32,879 --> 00:09:35,120 never thought this thing, but when I rewatched the entire show, 207 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,039 I was like, man, this is still to me, like, 208 00:09:37,159 --> 00:09:38,720 as of right now, one of the greatest shows of 209 00:09:38,759 --> 00:09:40,240 all time. I don't care what people say about the 210 00:09:40,279 --> 00:09:44,240 length of this and that there's a little questionable CGI here. 211 00:09:44,919 --> 00:09:47,279 I feel like we haven't had much questionable CGI of 212 00:09:47,399 --> 00:09:51,480 Stranger Things since the first season. But there's a sequence 213 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,039 I'll just say, with some melting it was a it's 214 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,600 looking a little rough, you know, looking at the greatest 215 00:09:57,639 --> 00:10:03,440 So yeah, I I think so far. It really just 216 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,200 comes down how they sticked landing here and they did 217 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,559 the same thing. There is like a huge like I 218 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,039 it's funny like minors spoilers here. But they even said 219 00:10:13,039 --> 00:10:15,000 this in interviews, right, but they said, Okay, this season 220 00:10:15,039 --> 00:10:17,600 we're explaining what the upside down was. I was with 221 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,440 people where I thought they did a good enough job 222 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,120 in season four to give us like a rough idea 223 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,399 that I didn't need the full on here's exactly what 224 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,320 it is. They do exactly what it is, they break 225 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,120 it down. It's kind of like Midichlorians in a sense. Right, 226 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,399 It's like you're getting to the very true point origin 227 00:10:31,519 --> 00:10:35,960 of the upside down. I don't mind it, per se. 228 00:10:36,039 --> 00:10:38,519 I think they added kind of a some sort of 229 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,440 stakes to it that was a very big deal, and 230 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,320 then it felt like it went away very quickly. So 231 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,360 it's like, I don't know if we need this going on. 232 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,440 I feel it between this the military and VECNA itself 233 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,440 and Demo dogs all this stuff, I feel like they've 234 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,799 added a lot of threats for the final episode. They 235 00:10:52,799 --> 00:10:54,519 don't think it's needed. I think you still could just 236 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,519 have the bare bones of the crew versus Vecna. So 237 00:10:57,919 --> 00:10:59,240 I don't know that's where Again, I think some of 238 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:00,879 the PAC things a little bit. And there's definitely some 239 00:11:00,919 --> 00:11:04,360 things where because it's the final season, other than us 240 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,399 knowing that and going towards this beginning, there's stuff that 241 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,159 does not feel like that. There's stuff that still feels 242 00:11:09,159 --> 00:11:11,559 like it's mid Stranger Things where it's setting up stuff 243 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,519 down the line, And I just don't know how a 244 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,720 final season are we gonna feel like, Hey, we did 245 00:11:15,759 --> 00:11:17,639 not spend enough time with these characters, we didn't spend 246 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,919 enough time with this plot line. I really don't know. 247 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,679 I don't know how I'm gonna feel about it. It's 248 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,559 gonna come to a Strang Things but or the finale. 249 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,720 But we'll talk about this portion. So if you've not 250 00:11:25,799 --> 00:11:28,360 seen it, we are going to get into spoilers right 251 00:11:28,399 --> 00:11:31,720 after this ad break look at this nice backscratcher. So 252 00:11:31,759 --> 00:11:33,279 we're gonna do that. So if you've not seen it, 253 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,279 my overall thoughts are still enjoying it. But I did 254 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,960 not love it, and I think there's a few things 255 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,759 that are just just some pacing and writing and some 256 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,279 choices that I just I don't know how to feel 257 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,080 about them. And I don't know if there's certain choices 258 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,720 that for sure, a few choices that aren't going to 259 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,080 be Oh, the finale will make it better. There's definitely 260 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,080 some things that know they've chosen this route, and I 261 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,840 didn't love it. So gonna take our first ad break. 262 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,600 I'm gonna take a drink of water, and when we're back, 263 00:11:57,639 --> 00:12:05,200 we'm full of spoil so we'll be right back. And 264 00:12:05,279 --> 00:12:09,360 we are back, Okay, So thank you to everybody joining 265 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,399 the live chat. I'm not on time. I won't say so. 266 00:12:11,399 --> 00:12:13,240 If anyone has a question or some of the stranger 267 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,960 things to go ahead, throw it in. We're in the 268 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,000 full spoilers now, so if you want to throw something in, 269 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,639 go ahead. Usually the main show it's either patrons or 270 00:12:19,639 --> 00:12:22,519 super chats today, know, like our limit or anything like that. 271 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,399 So I'm not going on for multipl Hoers just saying, 272 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,679 you know, we can spread the load a little bit. 273 00:12:28,879 --> 00:12:34,960 Will Steve and Will interact before the show's over. I 274 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,320 don't know. There's a lot of characters that it's very 275 00:12:37,399 --> 00:12:39,240 that gonna happen, though, right, I think there's something where 276 00:12:39,279 --> 00:12:41,879 it's again Avengers, the Or and Black Widow never interacted. 277 00:12:42,279 --> 00:12:44,679 That just happens where there's so many characters. If it 278 00:12:44,759 --> 00:12:50,159 was the core group, I'd say yes, but I'll say no. 279 00:12:50,759 --> 00:12:52,279 I'll say other than being in the same room, I 280 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,039 don't think so. Ray, And that's the thing where there's 281 00:12:54,159 --> 00:12:56,960 a lot of characters now going into a finale, I 282 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,519 will start where I should have started, or at least 283 00:12:59,519 --> 00:13:02,440 should have fits with last time. Is Mike Wheeler going 284 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,120 to have a major part in volume three? I think so, right, 285 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:10,080 because I feel like either way, if if Eleven dies, 286 00:13:10,279 --> 00:13:13,120 that's a big thing for him, right, and even then 287 00:13:13,159 --> 00:13:15,399 this will get to but that moment with Will telling 288 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,039 everybody that he's gay, I felt like him and Mike 289 00:13:19,039 --> 00:13:23,320 should have had a particular moment because they were best friends. 290 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,240 They had a little tension last season because he didn't 291 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,039 know what was going on with Will, and that was 292 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,519 Will said like, oh, You're my Tammy, right, Like I 293 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,080 liked you, not because it's necessarily, but you just I 294 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,039 made myself realize, oh, in liking you, I like boys, 295 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,759 even if I don't. You know you don't like me back, 296 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,120 you were my gateway to that. Right. They just kind 297 00:13:41,159 --> 00:13:43,039 of did the group hug, and I thought that they 298 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,919 should have more of a moment. I'm not sure if 299 00:13:44,919 --> 00:13:46,279 that was the right. I'm not sure if that's just 300 00:13:46,279 --> 00:13:49,000 because the schedules and so many people. So I think 301 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,159 I'm hoping for a little bit more with Mike and Will. 302 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,879 And either way, what ever happens with Eleven, I would 303 00:13:53,919 --> 00:13:57,840 imagine a kara ak akari. I think that's how I 304 00:13:57,879 --> 00:14:00,200 was saying your name. If not, I'm sorry, but I 305 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,080 think that, like if Eleven dies, big dramatic emotional stuff 306 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,679 for Will to do right. If Eleven lives, they get 307 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,559 to run off, be in love, go somewhere else. So 308 00:14:09,879 --> 00:14:12,799 I think Will, especially because like I feel like or 309 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,799 sorry not Will, Mike was the main character season one. 310 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,879 It's kind of always flipped around. It isn't ensemble, but 311 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,039 and especially this season, I feel like they're bringing back 312 00:14:21,039 --> 00:14:22,559 to Will lot. I feel like Mike will have a 313 00:14:22,559 --> 00:14:24,039 big role in the two hour thing. I don't think 314 00:14:24,039 --> 00:14:25,799 he's dying or anything like that. So do we know 315 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,720 if Steve is in the cartoon spinoff? I did not 316 00:14:27,759 --> 00:14:31,240 know those cartoons. Oh, the cartoon spin off. I could 317 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:32,879 be wrong. Are you talking about the one that's a 318 00:14:32,879 --> 00:14:35,840 prequel that? Cause I think that's a prequel. If that's 319 00:14:35,879 --> 00:14:38,039 a prequel, then I imagine so because it is just 320 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,799 like between season two and three or something like, I 321 00:14:40,799 --> 00:14:43,840 imagine you can see a Steve. Uh. Maybe we might 322 00:14:43,919 --> 00:14:45,919 have that one on one last Sisoe because can be 323 00:14:45,919 --> 00:14:47,279 too long. That's what I'm thinking, and that's what I'm 324 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,159 kind of hoping because it's just and that was my 325 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,679 thing where I guess we'll start there. I don't want 326 00:14:50,679 --> 00:14:52,039 to forget what I want to start with. But so 327 00:14:52,159 --> 00:14:57,559 the speech, right, I find it very odd where Vekna 328 00:14:57,759 --> 00:15:00,840 gets Will again very scarce. See, I like Vecna. All 329 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,440 this stuff they're doing the kids very gross. It's very 330 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,679 close to like assault stuff. They're making a big bad right, 331 00:15:06,799 --> 00:15:09,200 So he gets Will one last time in your spy 332 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,879 for me. I just found it, and I think he 333 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,440 kind of used him as a poor or. I don't 334 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,559 think he did. I think Will used his eyes to 335 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,399 see through Vecna that they were going after Max. Right, 336 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,159 I think for me, is you for seeing the finale 337 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,480 in the theaters. Yeah, if you missus spoiler non spoils, 338 00:15:23,519 --> 00:15:25,440 I'm seeing it in the theaters next week. I'm very 339 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:30,240 excited for that. So but anyways, Will sees the Max 340 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,720 thing and then whatever. But Vecna catch catches them sins 341 00:15:33,759 --> 00:15:37,120 like one last time, I'm gonna use you again. You're 342 00:15:37,159 --> 00:15:40,840 gonna be my spy or whatever Ram paraphrasing Will. And 343 00:15:40,879 --> 00:15:42,320 I don't think he ever really did. I think he 344 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,960 kind of at the end, I get what's gonna happen. 345 00:15:45,039 --> 00:15:49,919 I'll explain a second. But for everything that's happened in 346 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,879 these I think they've I don't know how many years 347 00:15:51,919 --> 00:15:54,240 has been. Let's just say four seasons, right, for these 348 00:15:54,279 --> 00:15:57,159 four seasons, for everything that happen, everything to go down 349 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,360 for Will not to tell anybody right away, and he's 350 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,000 out like, hey, Vecna plans to use me as why 351 00:16:03,159 --> 00:16:04,799 even if they go, oh, we figured out you're not 352 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,360 the spy, or oh we'll play this fucking song, or oh, 353 00:16:07,399 --> 00:16:08,799 now that they've told us, we can figure a way 354 00:16:08,799 --> 00:16:12,200 to beat that. The fact that he told nobody was unbelievable. 355 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,000 It's just like this moment too, when they're making this 356 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,240 plan and they talk about the kids, and Hopper's like, well, 357 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:21,039 why would he want the kids? What where have you 358 00:16:21,159 --> 00:16:23,759 been for four years? Make that the nurse, Make that 359 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,360 the teacher, Make that a character's not been around. Clearly 360 00:16:26,399 --> 00:16:28,639 you didn't figure out that, oh they cannot will to 361 00:16:28,799 --> 00:16:31,159 like help them get some powers or with the time 362 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,039 like you would just he was there in the like 363 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,879 the hospital in season two. So it felt like there's 364 00:16:34,879 --> 00:16:37,080 a few things in this show when the character says it, 365 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,279 when like what do you think he wants with kids? 366 00:16:39,519 --> 00:16:41,320 He says in a way where like, oh, we shouldn't 367 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,039 concern some of the kids because that's really a big man. 368 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,559 It was just very odd. It's like who knows what 369 00:16:45,639 --> 00:16:46,840 he wants? But you know he has part of his 370 00:16:46,879 --> 00:16:49,639 fucking evil plan. Hopper like, come on, wake up here, right, 371 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,159 but he is. They make this plan, and I liked 372 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,600 that they made Steve be the one giving the plan finally, 373 00:16:56,679 --> 00:16:58,639 right because like all these scientists people are trying to 374 00:16:58,639 --> 00:17:00,320 figure out all these army people and Steve it's just 375 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,360 like you know, the jog turned good cool guy can't 376 00:17:03,399 --> 00:17:05,640 get the girl best friends with a you know, a kid, 377 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,720 which we'll get there. I liked that they gave this 378 00:17:07,799 --> 00:17:09,519 moment where he get to do the whole Oh, here's 379 00:17:09,519 --> 00:17:10,960 a science. They gave her on that a little bit 380 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,960 earlier too, But I just feel like Steve, they made 381 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,559 him a bit more airheaded in a in a fun way, right, 382 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:17,640 in a likable way. But it was great for him 383 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,079 to get the slinky and the flash that hey, instead 384 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,960 of us going up, what if we wait till it 385 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,039 comes to us and you know, Jack the bean stock. 386 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:25,720 So I thought it was great, great moment him and 387 00:17:25,759 --> 00:17:29,640 Dustin figured out, great, they make this plan, everyone's packed up, 388 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,200 everyone's ready to go, and like I said to me, 389 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,400 it is a critique that Will never talks about. Hey, 390 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,680 unless I missed it, but there's a couple of stuff 391 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,599 we would rewind, just to be like, did they say this? 392 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,720 Unless I missed it. I don't think he ever said, like, hey, 393 00:17:43,799 --> 00:17:45,559 Vegna said this to me. We should be careful because 394 00:17:45,559 --> 00:17:48,519 what if there is a situation where they're watching this 395 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:53,079 and like this plan's going down, Will's watching this and 396 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,640 then the being like Vecna channels in his mind, he 397 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,519 sees the beanstuck thing, and Vecna's like, oh, let's just 398 00:17:58,519 --> 00:18:00,759 take out that town and the upside down gone. You know. 399 00:18:00,839 --> 00:18:02,599 So it fell a little risky for him not to 400 00:18:02,599 --> 00:18:05,240 share anything in this age. I understand in season two, 401 00:18:05,519 --> 00:18:08,119 hell maybe in season three why he might not, But 402 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,039 at this point, especially when you've realized how powerful Vecna 403 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,920 is and what they can do, maybe share. Listen, he 404 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,839 said he's gonna use me as a spy, and I 405 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,880 swear because to me, when he revealed the end of 406 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,799 this episode should cut that off in the finale. If 407 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,519 Vecna uses Will somehow in the spying sort of way, 408 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,359 that's gonna be major points off for me, because like 409 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,839 Will as a character, you should understand that, right. But 410 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,920 I think what they're trying to get is okay because 411 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:36,559 he has a fear, and the big fear was rejection 412 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,839 because he even said like, oh, I showed like I 413 00:18:39,279 --> 00:18:40,799 had his vision and it's just vec to put it 414 00:18:40,799 --> 00:18:42,079 in there. That was the other thing too. It's kind 415 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,799 of odd where you know he's like, oh, well, you know, 416 00:18:45,079 --> 00:18:47,240 she showed me these things about the future, and I'm 417 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,720 scared of it anywhy know, right, I was like, he's 418 00:18:49,759 --> 00:18:54,519 playing he plays tricks and it's like yeah, like like Max, 419 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,599 like even what's uh god, I can't remember Nancy, Like 420 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,400 they've seen things that didn't come true, right, So it 421 00:19:01,559 --> 00:19:04,039 just I get it to be scared. But for him 422 00:19:04,079 --> 00:19:05,480 to kind of take this as like, oh, I'm gonna 423 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,599 tell people I'm game, They're gonna turn against me, I 424 00:19:07,759 --> 00:19:09,079 was like, I don't know if you have to be 425 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,599 really scared about that, dude, Like I like, again, these 426 00:19:11,599 --> 00:19:13,880 are their kids, but at the same time, they've aged 427 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,039 up so much because of their life experiences. It's hard 428 00:19:16,079 --> 00:19:18,519 for me to go with the all their kids same thing. 429 00:19:18,599 --> 00:19:20,680 Once we got the season three that all their kids 430 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:23,279 kind of out of their out of their own possibility. 431 00:19:23,279 --> 00:19:25,960 Everything they did in season one, season two, they've aged, 432 00:19:26,079 --> 00:19:28,680 they've matured, they've been through the thick of it. I 433 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,480 can't buy the you know, I don't know. Uh. Acry says, 434 00:19:32,519 --> 00:19:33,880 how many deaths we're gonna get too, We'll get you 435 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,480 at the end. Senec says, not gonna lie. I feel 436 00:19:36,519 --> 00:19:39,359 disapointing with how things went. I feel like, other than 437 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,200 a one person I talked to, I think that's kind 438 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,480 of the vibe right now. Most people are underwhelmed but 439 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,920 we'll see, right, we got the finale. But so I 440 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,480 think the or what the idea is with Will telling 441 00:19:49,519 --> 00:19:53,200 everybody that he's gay. That cuts off the fear because Vecna, 442 00:19:53,279 --> 00:19:56,960 you know, they got Robert England last season. They even 443 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,359 said he was inspired by They got to show Nightmare 444 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,279 on Elm Street three three uh. In this volume, clearly 445 00:20:03,319 --> 00:20:05,400 they're big fans of Freddy Couger Knight right Nelle Street. 446 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,000 And that's a big thing Freddy would do, right, He'd 447 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,240 find your fear, tackle it and you get rid of 448 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,359 that fear, and you kind of break off from Freddy. Right. 449 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,200 So my hope is what they're kind of insinuating is 450 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,720 that Will telling in the group his sexuality and then 451 00:20:17,759 --> 00:20:20,240 embrace him cuts off that fear that Vecna would take 452 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,880 advantage of and then he were a backscratcher. These I 453 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,680 got these nice new pj's start. We get new pgs 454 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,119 every year for Christmas, Star Wars pjs. We got match 455 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,160 Ones a little hitchy though, I'm not gonna lie anyways. 456 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,160 My hope is him telling that cuts the thing off 457 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,799 and you can't spy. Vecna can't enter him that way. 458 00:20:39,039 --> 00:20:41,319 I'm fine, I Will can enter Vecna because it's that 459 00:20:41,319 --> 00:20:43,359 thing they talk about right now, Vecna thought he was 460 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,079 weaker than he actually was. I'm fine with it the 461 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,759 reverse way, but Vecna using you know, Vena using his 462 00:20:50,799 --> 00:20:55,799 fear feels gone. And I will say, though it's tough. Right, 463 00:20:57,039 --> 00:20:59,720 everyone's getting ready to go. They're packing up, they're gonna 464 00:20:59,759 --> 00:21:02,440 the left weapons. It is down a Nutcrauching town. Obviously 465 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,319 they still need to wait till the thing fully loads, 466 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,640 but they don't know the timing of how is the 467 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,240 abyss and the real work will come together? Right, They 468 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,279 don't know the timing. They think Lucas is right, they 469 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,599 kind of have till midnight of November six, sure, but 470 00:21:13,759 --> 00:21:17,519 still it's like you don't absolutely know. It's the fact 471 00:21:17,559 --> 00:21:20,839 that they all get together, they rally up, they get 472 00:21:20,839 --> 00:21:23,680 their weapons where I go and very at the last 473 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,960 one was like, hey, I got to tell you guys something. 474 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,960 And like I said, non spoilers. They've given him a 475 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,000 lot of monologues, and I just feel like maybe that's 476 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,519 why another reason it's like another monologue from Will, like 477 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,480 all right, like I get he's one of these main 478 00:21:38,559 --> 00:21:40,359 characters because he was adducted, but it's like They've given 479 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:41,839 him a lot in these and I don't think all 480 00:21:41,839 --> 00:21:44,279 of them have hit. Like I've said before, it feels like, hey, 481 00:21:44,319 --> 00:21:45,720 I gotta tell you something the momp and then it's 482 00:21:45,759 --> 00:21:47,880 like a fifteen minute it's like, hey, like get to 483 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,799 the point a little bit, quicker man. And that's where 484 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,200 this was. So I'm up two minds of this. I 485 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,839 fully support this being a big plot point, right. I 486 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,119 have no problem to all those geek First, I have 487 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,279 friends that are gay, I have friends that are trans. 488 00:22:01,599 --> 00:22:04,240 I don't care as long as you are friendly and 489 00:22:04,279 --> 00:22:06,880 good to people. I don't care who you're loving, who 490 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,480 you're sleeping with, as long as it's mutual. As long 491 00:22:09,519 --> 00:22:12,039 as there's love, great. I don't care if you're green, 492 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,119 don't care what color you are, sexual rrotation does not matter. 493 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,079 So any negativity I have towards the scene is not 494 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,519 because like, oh will it okay? No, fine, they've been 495 00:22:21,519 --> 00:22:24,359 building that. That's great. I have no issue whatsoever. And 496 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,440 I think that is great for kids that are and 497 00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:30,279 younger kids teenagers that do feel different, that watch such 498 00:22:30,279 --> 00:22:32,880 a big thing like Stranger Things. To see a character 499 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,240 like Will and the whole group embrace them. That's great 500 00:22:35,279 --> 00:22:39,279 because even people in places that have gay marriage in 501 00:22:39,319 --> 00:22:42,359 there have you know, people more accepted. There's tons of 502 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,200 people that still don't accept people. Right, there's tons of 503 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,880 people that they are gay and whether it's how they 504 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,720 live their religion, their church will disown from their kids. 505 00:22:50,079 --> 00:22:52,480 And if you do that, don't understand you. I think 506 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,279 you're one of the first fucking people about that. Right. 507 00:22:55,519 --> 00:22:57,839 So that's the thing where I don't care awesome and 508 00:22:57,839 --> 00:22:59,599 I think this is great. I think it was the 509 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,240 place and the timing, and also I just never bought 510 00:23:02,279 --> 00:23:06,079 that's where it's like, we already have Robin, who's a 511 00:23:06,079 --> 00:23:08,119 gay character in the group. It just felt like the 512 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,759 stakes of him sitting everybody down for a long scene 513 00:23:11,759 --> 00:23:13,079 and they said they film this for twelve hours for 514 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,400 a long scene to get to him being gay. I 515 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,880 just had never any point thought like someone's be like, well, well, 516 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,640 this is where I draw the line. I feel like 517 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:27,279 this storyline was maybe like something like obviously the interrow 518 00:23:27,319 --> 00:23:29,359 of season four, so it's tough. I just feel like 519 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,559 this is something maybe earlier on when they're still very 520 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,319 kiddy and they're not as close together and been through this, 521 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,000 or even like season last season when him and Will 522 00:23:37,079 --> 00:23:39,200 were kind of at each other's throats, like this season 523 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,240 they've kind of have meakopos to come back together. So 524 00:23:41,759 --> 00:23:43,559 it just felt odd going in the finale where they're 525 00:23:43,559 --> 00:23:46,559 gonna have this long scene and that's the thing where hey, guys, 526 00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:48,279 I got something really big to tell you, and I 527 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,559 thought it was gonna be a combo of you know, 528 00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:52,680 he could committed his gay but also that that Na 529 00:23:52,839 --> 00:23:55,160 used me this spy. I don't like, this plan could 530 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,960 be fucked, like and even though I don't like this, 531 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,640 this plan could be fucked, you know, like they saw 532 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,960 this or maybe you can't bring me because that's gonna 533 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,519 screw me up, and they'd give this whole pep talk 534 00:24:03,559 --> 00:24:05,880 of you know whatever Vecna's gonna do well batt against that, 535 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,319 we need you there, your you're a final piece. It 536 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,200 just felt all that like the final thing, like, guys, 537 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,400 I need to tell you something really important and I 538 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,839 get that is right, then maybe that's what they'll specify 539 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,640 in the next episode. I just feel like they did 540 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,079 not hit home of if him telling his sexuality everybody 541 00:24:20,079 --> 00:24:22,960 cuts off the ties of Vecna. They didn't really he 542 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,160 like talked around that a little bit but it just 543 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,839 again felt like where it was in the pacing of 544 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,519 the scene in the story, I don't know, felt a 545 00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:32,440 little off, and the moment didn't feel as big as 546 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,400 I told about before, like him and Mike not having 547 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,920 like a separate moment, like I don't know. And there's 548 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,960 just little stuff like the Happer thing when he was 549 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,880 talking rob and like, well, who did you tell you 550 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,000 know you were gaining He's like, well, at one point 551 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,200 she said the audience and I was like, oh, fuck 552 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,119 are they are? We last two episodes like breaking the 553 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,279 Fourth Wall? I was like, don't do that. Luckily it 554 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,240 was just a general audience, right, but that thing was 555 00:24:54,279 --> 00:24:56,480 like oh, but she said, oh Steve, and he's like 556 00:24:56,559 --> 00:25:00,720 Steve really. Two things. One, Steve has coltiple times now 557 00:25:00,759 --> 00:25:02,720 proven he's a good guy. I think sometimes again they 558 00:25:02,759 --> 00:25:06,119 act like these characters are their season one archetypes. He's 559 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,440 been in the thick of it last season. He was there, 560 00:25:08,599 --> 00:25:11,240 fucking badass, killing all these things, helping you guys out. 561 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,880 He's proven he's a good guy. And two, him and 562 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,000 Robin are together all the fucking time, so out of 563 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,480 anybody the guy that clearly she's with him, not dating right, 564 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,759 So guys, she's clearly with and he's seeing that she's 565 00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:26,720 kissing another girl, clearly her girlfriend, and really Steve, it's 566 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,440 the same way as Hopper being like, what's he gonna 567 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,359 do with the kids. There's just some things where I 568 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,759 don't know if there's so many moving pieces or just 569 00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:35,519 so much content where they've been like, hey, this line 570 00:25:35,599 --> 00:25:38,119 doesn't make sense, like why would he not think she 571 00:25:38,279 --> 00:25:41,359 told He's told Steve? Like Steve is genuinely a good 572 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,519 guy now, right, he's one of the best guys. So 573 00:25:43,799 --> 00:25:46,119 there's just a few things that just especially maybe it 574 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,920 doesn't line up if you haven't watched the show again, 575 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,839 but I watched the whole show again right up to 576 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,200 the season, and it just feels like we have evolved. 577 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,200 These characters at the point of these friends are easily 578 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,960 gonna accept this. People would understand Steve Hopper would know 579 00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:02,079 what's going on. So sometimes it feels like that or 580 00:26:02,079 --> 00:26:04,839 the plot arm or same thing with Vecna, right, Vecna's 581 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,079 super powerful unless our main characters around. I talked about 582 00:26:08,079 --> 00:26:10,880 that last episode with Will and Joyce. It's like he's 583 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,599 killing all these guards, but he wouldn't even kill Joyce, right, 584 00:26:13,599 --> 00:26:15,880 I've said this before. Why wouldn't Vecna try to kill 585 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,319 Joyce if for some reason he's a sorcer or a wizard. 586 00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:21,279 He stops him. Great, But in this moment where Will 587 00:26:21,319 --> 00:26:24,400 hadn't unlocked his powers yet or that usage. Even if 588 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,519 it's just like Joyce's no threat, it's like that weakens 589 00:26:27,559 --> 00:26:30,079 the group if you want Will to be scared and 590 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,279 on the back foot, it's like kills mom. Right, And 591 00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:38,079 same thing when Holly was running Vecna. Great situation where 592 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,480 Vecna has a huge heartbeat. He's up there getting all 593 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,759 the kid's spirits or whatever. Right, Holly throws up. Looks 594 00:26:44,759 --> 00:26:46,640 like a terrible way to throw up. This dust comes 595 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,720 out of you. She's running. I know it had a 596 00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:52,640 broken leg, but multiple times Vecna is we saw it, 597 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,240 Like in the next scene where she jumps down and 598 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,599 Vecna like force sketches her and pulls her back up. 599 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,559 Why he slow Jason or he's walking towards Holly for 600 00:27:01,559 --> 00:27:03,319 her to get into the upside out. Just so we 601 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,920 can get a pretty much a cliffanger from one episode 602 00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:10,839 whatever it was, the episode six to seven, right, just 603 00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:14,319 so you'll tune in, it's like that happens with some 604 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,319 of these characters with yeah, I'm curious, says there's a 605 00:27:17,319 --> 00:27:19,039 lot of missing pieces and emotions. I hope they fill 606 00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:21,000 in the last episode. And I agree with you and 607 00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:23,759 I hope. But that's a tough thing where when we 608 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,240 have the military, the abyss now Vekna, there's so many 609 00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:31,039 threats that that's where I worry that the Like I 610 00:27:31,079 --> 00:27:34,400 could see an hour fifteen of it being action, big 611 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,559 stuff going on, and then like the forty five being like, 612 00:27:36,599 --> 00:27:39,240 here's the emotional stuff. And you might think, oh, that's 613 00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:41,720 a lot of time forty five minutes, it's not. When 614 00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:44,000 you have all these characters. Also they could kill them off, 615 00:27:44,039 --> 00:27:47,200 but forty five minutes. Like, there's a reason Endgame was 616 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,599 three hours because like you needed that first full hour. 617 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,799 To me, that's why I always will defend Endgame. I 618 00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:53,480 love the first out of that movie when people are 619 00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:55,680 just depressed and sit around doing nothing. You know why, 620 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,400 because they get to talk and show their emotions. Where 621 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,920 this is a multiple hour shows, you know. So I 622 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,799 don't know. So it's just there's certain things that just 623 00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:07,880 happened that I scratch my head, that just happened before the plot. 624 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,200 So I love the idea of it, of him coming 625 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,880 out of it. I think that's a great character moment, 626 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,359 great for people watching the show. I understood it. I 627 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,039 just think two things of his fear was a little unfound. 628 00:28:17,079 --> 00:28:18,839 I get it's in the eighties. I get it's way 629 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,160 more or less accepted than it is now. Right. I 630 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,440 think it's just tough when these characters have been together 631 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,240 so long. I would not buy that being the reason 632 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,480 they turn against them. They've not shown any signs of being, 633 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,160 you know, against any sexuality, and you already have a 634 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,400 gay character in the group, so it's like they've accepted her, 635 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,920 and she's newer to the group, so I feel like 636 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,799 they're gonna accept you. Like, maybe I'm wrong, but I 637 00:28:40,839 --> 00:28:42,920 feel like you're okay, right, So I think it's just 638 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,960 a situation. I just think they should have hit more 639 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,279 in the head that it was it was more of 640 00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:50,920 internal fear. But it's also too cut off the spy thing. 641 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,599 And again, if the spy thing gets brought up in 642 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,640 the finale and back, can you use that against him? 643 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,559 That's a massive con for me because like, at any point, 644 00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:01,880 why didn't you really specify, Hey, this dude literally said 645 00:29:02,039 --> 00:29:04,759 I'm gonna use you as a spy like I, you're 646 00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:06,880 in my eyes and ears there, so we'll see what's 647 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,559 going on. What's gonna happen there. Let's a couple of 648 00:29:09,559 --> 00:29:14,599 people in the chat here. Let's see here's I have 649 00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:16,920 a big doubt about the upside down turning a hole 650 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,319 U or sorry uput it down during the hole in 651 00:29:19,359 --> 00:29:22,079 the wall the bridge. Why did it cause larger damage? 652 00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:24,000 Like it'll become a balloon. Open the edge and all 653 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,319 the air comes out. That's one of my things where 654 00:29:26,319 --> 00:29:30,440 I talk about the threats too to me in that 655 00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:32,799 moment they find this thing and this way, I told hum, 656 00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:35,839 I didn't mind that because they for they have this 657 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,160 whole thing with him and Steve and they're like Dustin, 658 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,920 you right, Dustin's right all the fuck time? And I 659 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,079 like that he wasn't this time. Right. I didn't need 660 00:29:43,079 --> 00:29:44,759 the character's question, but I liked that he wasn't. He 661 00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:46,640 thought it was a generator in this building found with 662 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,759 all these vecna vines and all this stuff. They thought 663 00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:50,640 it was a generator, and it was the reverse. It 664 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,000 was holding back something larger. When Nancy shoots the thing, 665 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,480 that's where the melting sequence. Some questionable CGI going on 666 00:29:57,559 --> 00:29:58,799 like when it was coming out of the walls, it 667 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,480 was like, okay, this is maybe like should have brought 668 00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:04,359 down a little bit or darkened it even a little bit. 669 00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:06,839 I don't like scenes being so dark you can't see right, 670 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,240 but it was just looking very Star Wars Prequelly in 671 00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:15,599 that moment. So this happens, and when she shoots this, 672 00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:18,640 it felt like an immediate threat, even to the point 673 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,440 where I can't remember her name. But Eleven, her sister, 674 00:30:21,519 --> 00:30:24,680 and Hopper they're down. They're in the upside down. This 675 00:30:24,799 --> 00:30:27,960 portal opens like a vacuum sucking everything in right, it's 676 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,079 literally ripping tree roots out of the ground and metal. 677 00:30:31,319 --> 00:30:34,240 But Hopper's just like standing there like this is crazy, 678 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,960 like he'd be gone. I can believe the girls. Maybe 679 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,920 they got some powers they push themselves, or even if 680 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,240 Hopper gets pulled and Eleven catches, I'm sure, but there's 681 00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:47,519 stuff being pulled, like if they can pull massive tree 682 00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:50,119 root out of the ground, Happer's going right, So that's 683 00:30:50,119 --> 00:30:53,440 where that whole thing, and so far, I'm fine with 684 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:58,119 the explanation of Okay, the technically there's three locations, right, 685 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,640 there's Earth, there's the upside down, and then there's the 686 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,880 abyss where Vecna's hanging out. That's that like serpotone, like 687 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,039 Tanny Brown place, right, And the idea is I can't 688 00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:11,559 remember the full explanation, but pretty much, it's two universes 689 00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:14,480 or two planets something like that clashing together. And that's 690 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,039 what the upside down is. It was a wormhole in 691 00:31:16,039 --> 00:31:17,759 the upside down. It's just kind of like an amalgamation 692 00:31:17,839 --> 00:31:20,319 of those things, and it's like a dark version of that, right, 693 00:31:20,359 --> 00:31:22,799 And if they get to November six, it's gonna crash 694 00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:25,759 together and Vecna is gonna make his abyss the real war, right. 695 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,839 I like all that. I just don't think I needed 696 00:31:27,839 --> 00:31:30,119 that there's a tear and things are getting ripped through 697 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,480 it because it felt like it was this big threat 698 00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:34,759 and then not much happened with it. I think it 699 00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:37,359 kind of closed up or something. But and good thing 700 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,599 because there was that one shot where there's like a 701 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,400 big stream of like a white beam. Everybody I saw 702 00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:44,359 THEORI was like, oh, that's eleven dying. So at least 703 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,079 we've seen that shot wing Okay, een of eleven dines, 704 00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:50,079 which I don't think so anymore. Uh, that's not it, right, 705 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,599 So I just I'm fine with the explanation of Okay, 706 00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:55,920 the two universes. I was still fine with just the 707 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,960 upside down, being like these people got some powers. He 708 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,039 got put through like it am alternate dimension and created this, right. 709 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,839 I was fine with that scenario. But that's okay, where 710 00:32:04,839 --> 00:32:07,160 technically the abyss is where he is and he's been trying, 711 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,759 and I like the whole way of oh how come 712 00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:10,759 we couldn't get to Vecna and him being like I 713 00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:12,599 couldn't find him, like it didn't make any sense. I 714 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,400 liked that there's kind of like a third spot that 715 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,640 they didn't know about, So I was fine with that. 716 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,319 I just didn't need the big It's very much like 717 00:32:18,359 --> 00:32:20,480 a superhero movie where it's like and now there's a 718 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,559 big beam in the sky. It's like, yeah, okay, Like 719 00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:26,599 it just feels like a lot of this stuff now 720 00:32:26,599 --> 00:32:29,720 would be being torn apart, or same thing this Nancy 721 00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:32,759 and jonathing moment, which is like, oh, crazy shit, it's 722 00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:35,079 gonna go down. It just stops and everything solidifies, right, 723 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,680 So I'm not sure I felt about that. The other 724 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,559 thing this is where and chat you can let me 725 00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:42,799 know and I'll read the other chats here that I 726 00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:46,119 missed here in a second. But I just don't want 727 00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:49,759 to forget because the Duffer brothers confirmed that Jonathan Nancy 728 00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:52,119 are broken up. Now that was a popular theory, right, 729 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,599 that you'd end up with none of them, neither Steve 730 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,319 nor Jonathan. I just did not take this as a 731 00:32:58,359 --> 00:33:01,480 breakup scene. Now. Funny enough, Like I talked in the discord, 732 00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:04,960 people said same thing. No, I've looked online because I 733 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,480 got to know I vacation of when the accounts I fall, 734 00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:09,240 and then I clicked on so I wanted to read 735 00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:11,119 It's like, okay, did I misread this? Was I tired? 736 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,799 Like it was like eleven midnight, Christmas Long Day? And 737 00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:16,559 all the comments are like, I didn't take it that way, 738 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,720 and Emily did as far as I said, because I said, hey, 739 00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:22,240 when you watched the scene last night, how did you tay? 740 00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:23,839 I'm like, oh, yeah, they're broken up. I didn't even 741 00:33:23,839 --> 00:33:25,400 feel like, dude, you take it their breaking up? I 742 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,759 just like, how did you take the they oh they're 743 00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:29,079 broken up. I didn't take that at all, that they 744 00:33:29,079 --> 00:33:31,920 were broken up. I understood that they threw the ring. 745 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,440 I thought it was a situation where they were finally 746 00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:37,240 honest with each other, and to me, I thought, he 747 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,359 just said, I got you this to fix the issues. 748 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,759 But the point of the scene was them explaining to 749 00:33:41,839 --> 00:33:44,240 each other what they've been lying to you about to 750 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,559 one another. That fixed the issues. It wasn't a ring, 751 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,279 it wasn't a marriage or a proposal. It wasn't a 752 00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:53,720 actual just like you know, superficial thing. It was them 753 00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:55,240 they don't need to be married. It's the same way 754 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,960 like me and m we call each other husband and wife, 755 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,039 but maybe offishally get married at some point, but we 756 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,720 just it's a piece of paper. Once the kids are 757 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,400 more important and now we're calm law so it's like, 758 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,440 we don't need that stuff, right, And I thought that 759 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,799 was kind of that moment of hey, we could just 760 00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:11,239 be together, and especially because they embrace right after, and 761 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,360 I just felt like, whether it was the way it 762 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,079 was directed or the way it was acted, for myself personally, 763 00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:19,840 and I was happy to Okay, Emily, you got what 764 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,800 the creators did right. And I said that before we're 765 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,239 like season two, that episode which we'll talk about with 766 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,840 Eleven and all her brothers and sisters. Me and Kyle 767 00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:28,920 liked that we were we were good with it. Where 768 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,039 everybody else was like, fuck that, you know, fuck that episode, 769 00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:34,400 that story that me was stupid. I'm happy we brought back, 770 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,119 but for me, sometimes that happens with creators, Right, this 771 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,559 just rung. It's not as bad, but this just rung. 772 00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:44,480 Like in Rise of Skywalker when Ray and Kylo kiss, 773 00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:47,679 it's this big embrace romantic music. You can fucking see 774 00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:49,800 like it's an open mouth kiss or there's tongue and 775 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,880 then for a couple of weeks later to be jj bick, Well, 776 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,079 that was a kiss of friendship. I've never kissed any 777 00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:56,880 friends that way. If I kiss any friends that way, 778 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,960 I wasn't want them to be friends. You know. That's 779 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,039 the thing where that scene does not go with what 780 00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:04,440 they said to me that I did not feel like 781 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,840 a breakup scene. I'm completely fine with her not picking 782 00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:09,559 both of them because I liked that moment where because 783 00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:12,039 it was last season where he wouldn't Steve and nance 784 00:35:12,119 --> 00:35:15,280 is like, hey, I picture a van and six kids, 785 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,239 and I'm like, in this episode, she's like, he wants 786 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,559 six kids, Like, I don't know if I want all that. 787 00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:22,360 Like I like that she was because that's what's happened, right, 788 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,039 I don't know when she started meeting Steve or Dancy 789 00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:27,440 but still pretty young like high school sweetheart, and then 790 00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:30,280 after she didn't have a break she dumped him and 791 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:35,039 then right away hooked up with hereiting right, I'm completely no, Jonathan, 792 00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:38,920 I'm completely fine. That's the route where you know, Steve's 793 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,440 just kind of gleaming on to like his high school sweetart, 794 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,639 the one that got away, but he still needs to 795 00:35:43,679 --> 00:35:46,280 go find someone else. Jonathan's just kind of gleaming onto 796 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,679 the girl that he always had a big crush on, 797 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,519 and now they were going in different routes, even though 798 00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:51,639 I felt like him omitting these things, so like he 799 00:35:51,679 --> 00:35:53,480 was trying to get back to Nancy. That's how I 800 00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:56,280 took it. But and I'm fine with her being like, hey, 801 00:35:56,519 --> 00:35:58,760 I've never been alone. I've never been given a chance 802 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,519 to find myself because one, I've dated, you know, two 803 00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:04,559 guys for almost my whole like teenhood, adulthood life, right, 804 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,159 and two the times where there's downtime, we're fucking finding 805 00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:10,400 demo dogs or demo Gordons and all that stuff. Right, 806 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,840 So it's just like, like I personally did not read it 807 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,199 as a breakup scene, and you know, hobviously like I 808 00:36:17,199 --> 00:36:18,840 said Emily did, so I guess it worked for her. 809 00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:22,000 I thought that many it was either not acted the 810 00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:24,920 right way or directed the right way. People might push back. 811 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,519 I just feel like that scene did not and I 812 00:36:26,559 --> 00:36:28,920 get from the dialogue how that could go down. I 813 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,159 just think emotion, even after the fact, it did not 814 00:36:31,519 --> 00:36:34,119 play like that in my opinion, So that to me, 815 00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:38,719 I'm not upset about the result. I think I'm just 816 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,079 upset with the execution of it. I don't think that 817 00:36:41,519 --> 00:36:43,559 worked for me. That left me underwhelmed. Then when I 818 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,559 woke up with that, to me, I just read that 819 00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:49,039 as either there together or it's like a let's like 820 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,760 not seeing each other, but like, let's get through this 821 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,440 like we are like. I just didn't take it as 822 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,480 like a breakup. Now they could do an epilogue and 823 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,079 jump twenty years and maybe they're together, right, But I 824 00:36:58,119 --> 00:36:59,920 didn't take that as like a full on breakup. I 825 00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:01,599 just took that as like, we've been lying to each 826 00:37:01,639 --> 00:37:03,840 other a lot, here's everything, and we just love each other. 827 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,320 Let's go And maybe that's what they will define as 828 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,920 a breakup. But I don't know that that did not 829 00:37:09,039 --> 00:37:12,800 read for me, So let's see it. He says, but 830 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,119 the lab doesn't seem to have that any damage. Felt 831 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,360 like a small bull, but the lab doesn't seem to 832 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,840 be harmed. I can't remember I was saying, but no, Lab, 833 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,760 everything's finally the upside down. Even at one point when 834 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,079 they're talking about the plan and they're like, well, how 835 00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:26,519 are you up there? And Hopper's like, well, luckily, and 836 00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:29,480 he like draws a picture there's a chopper at this base, like, yeah, 837 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,639 of course there's of course is chopper that Hopper just 838 00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:35,480 knows about. Right, let's see. Not even anything felt by 839 00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:39,679 Dustin from the group, or sorry, not even anything felt 840 00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:43,159 by the Dustin group from the vacuum section. Yeah, absolutely right. 841 00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:47,639 It just felt very that felt very easy. So uh, 842 00:37:48,119 --> 00:37:50,840 let's see, will you unmarry me? So they are married? 843 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,320 Broken up or done confuse altogether? Yeah, I that's what 844 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,920 they say. That's what the creators say to me. They 845 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,639 not to me, but that's what they send. An interview 846 00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:01,440 today that came out that they are broken up, and 847 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:06,960 I thought, all right, I guess so, so we'll see. 848 00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:08,519 I don't know if there's an epilogue, but to me 849 00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:13,440 didn't ring true what I was gonna say. I want 850 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,280 to touch upon this. We'll take another ad break and 851 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,360 then I'll be right back and we're back. So yeah, 852 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,079 I want to touch upon this because I brought this 853 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,760 up and we were talking about predictions right in the 854 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,760 discord bout changing things. So I never did this on there, 855 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,880 but the predictions where I said, I think they're gonna 856 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,159 bring back that the storyline with the episode two everyone 857 00:38:35,199 --> 00:38:37,119 doesn't like, right, the other numbers, I'll just call them. 858 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,000 I just thought that's a big hanging piece, and especially 859 00:38:41,039 --> 00:38:43,360 because when the show started, it was like, oh, well, 860 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,440 there's an earthquake and we're back to normal life for everybody. Right. 861 00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:48,159 It wasn't like a bit. It was a quarantine, but 862 00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:50,480 it didn't feel like the whole town knew there's monsters 863 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,199 where the first like the ending of season four felt 864 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,559 like there's monsters come from the fucking sky. Right, But 865 00:38:55,679 --> 00:38:58,199 I felt, Okay, with this going on, you kind of 866 00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:02,159 have to address that, right. I know they were doing 867 00:39:02,199 --> 00:39:05,000 their own thing, but when we met those kids, they 868 00:39:05,039 --> 00:39:07,360 were nice enough and heroic enough that I just don't 869 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,519 think they'd see this stuff going on and be like, man, 870 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,199 we're just gonna sit back and not do anything. So 871 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,000 I felt like they had to play a part in it. 872 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,920 They gotta come back, or I felt, And they kind 873 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,280 of did this, but in a different way. I felt, Oh, 874 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,360 maybe they're gonna do something where Vecna knows about these 875 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,440 people and I gotta take them out and that can 876 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,880 make Eleven the strongest, right, ok Hey, I took them all, 877 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,119 but I couldn't get to you. Right. They kind of 878 00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:28,880 did this where they went on a weaker away where 879 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,159 they killed them all off. The military shot them down, 880 00:39:31,199 --> 00:39:36,280 which is like, yeah, okay, I guess like Eleven barely 881 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,360 gets caught and she just has like regular people around her. 882 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,440 You guys all have powers, but that's fine, other than 883 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,599 the main sister. They all got killed and they brought 884 00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:44,559 her back. And that's why I forgot's sake, because I 885 00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:46,079 brought that up and that was a prediction. I didn't 886 00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:47,679 see many people talking about that. And the end of 887 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,559 episode whatever the three, when they were four and they 888 00:39:50,559 --> 00:39:52,679 showed her, I was like, I got it and they 889 00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:55,760 brought her in, and yeah, I to me, this storyline 890 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,079 makes sense. I think I have to wait to the 891 00:39:58,119 --> 00:40:00,719 finale because I've always said that I felt Eleven was 892 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,039 gonna die. I don't want her to die. I want 893 00:40:03,039 --> 00:40:05,920 her to have a happy ending. I felt like that 894 00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:08,599 up until the big speech, and I'll say maybe that 895 00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:11,280 could be a negative where that speech should have came 896 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,599 a little later on where and forgive me because they 897 00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:15,360 don't know her name but her sister pretty much they 898 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,679 go into like an upside down whatever that black you 899 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,400 know space is right and just says like, hey, they 900 00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:24,000 they explained that they're trying to create a new eleven 901 00:40:24,039 --> 00:40:27,039 because they revealed that Henry's blood was funnel out of 902 00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:30,039 him to create these kids. Eleven took the like was 903 00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:32,840 the strongest, took it the most. They're trying that again, 904 00:40:33,039 --> 00:40:34,519 I think it's the one that took right. They're saying 905 00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:37,239 they're trying to get with multiple pregnant lady. They're pumping 906 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,159 eights blood and it's not working the exact same way, 907 00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:43,519 so they want eleven for the blood. So her point was, Okay, cool, 908 00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:46,679 we're gonna kill that. Now, we're gonna kill Henry. We're 909 00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:50,760 gonna stop that, right, and then after what's gonna happen, Well, 910 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,599 they're gonna come after you. And then you know, Eleven's like, 911 00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:56,159 well we'll kill Lynna Hamilton. Well, there's gonna be someone new, 912 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,880 just like with Papa. She came in right and it's like, well, 913 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,760 we're gonna run, and then he goes, well, what they're 914 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,840 gonna find you and kill Mike? Like this this road 915 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,480 is gonna go down a bad one, right, And my 916 00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:09,840 problem is it's the penultimate episode where she is giving 917 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:15,079 the whole you got we gotta sacrifice to do this right, 918 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,199 And when Eleven stands up to answer her, it's not 919 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,440 a I'll find a way. I'm not doing that, I'm 920 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,320 not leaving Mike. It's well, what should we how do 921 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,400 we do this? And then she explains like, hey, we'll 922 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,079 kill Vecna and we close it all down. We'll stay back, 923 00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:32,159 and it seems like she's kind of considering it in 924 00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:34,400 a way. So that's where I feel like, and maybe 925 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,960 I'm wrong, maybe they will kill her, but I just 926 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,639 feel like they should have done this in the finale 927 00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:40,840 where it's in the moment where they defeat everything and 928 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,400 this girl's like, hey, we gotta do this, and then 929 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,039 whether the portal closes and Eleven's dead, or whether the 930 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,320 portal closes and Eleven walks out, there's be that moment 931 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,079 of what she gonna do? Where now it feels like 932 00:41:51,199 --> 00:41:55,840 kind of a choreographed to, like a Red Herring, right, like, Oh, 933 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,679 she's gotta kill herself and uh not really, she's not 934 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,559 gonna do it, and we'll see because I'm I don't 935 00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:02,199 need that to happen. I'm not rooting for we talk 936 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,800 about the possible deaths. I really don't think anybody big 937 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,039 is gonna die now, like I, I think they've choreographed 938 00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:12,719 it too much, Like I, I really don't know, Like 939 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,400 I could see the fucking guy that's like friends with 940 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,679 Joyce and Hawp right, like the other scientists or journalist guy. 941 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,679 I can see some of the characters like that, But 942 00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:22,880 I feel like they wanna give most of these people 943 00:42:23,199 --> 00:42:25,840 a happy ending. I feel like Jonathan and Nancy be 944 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,159 odd to like, well, we're gonna try this new thing out. 945 00:42:28,159 --> 00:42:29,840 We're broken up, so we're gonna live our lives and 946 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,119 kill them. Steve and Dustin they got back together, which 947 00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:33,960 we'll talk about, and they said, like, oh, don't be 948 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,199 like Eddie, like I just I don't think so. And 949 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,079 I'm possibly fine, not possible. I am fine with that. 950 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,000 I'm fine with I've said this before, Fellowship the Ring. 951 00:42:43,079 --> 00:42:45,800 We only lost born here and that's okay. Some people 952 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,480 might go, oh, it's unbelievable. You guys go on this 953 00:42:47,559 --> 00:42:50,639 big adventure, multi year venture, none you die. That's okay 954 00:42:50,679 --> 00:42:52,679 because I'm sure that's happened in real life, right, So 955 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,119 I don't think there's gonna be any big possible or 956 00:42:55,159 --> 00:42:58,199 any big deaths happening. So we'll see. I like that 957 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,159 character putting that out because that's a right thing to 958 00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:03,960 put out. It's been four to five years of VECNA government, 959 00:43:04,039 --> 00:43:06,880 VECNIC government, so it's like, it's not unbelievable, like people 960 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,519 will come after you and something's gonna happen, right, So 961 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,800 I don't think it's gonna happen. I don't know how 962 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,960 they're gonna explain that. I don't know why she didn't 963 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,400 kill Linde Hamilton when Eleven and her had that face off. 964 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,559 As I said, all this bring up the military and 965 00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:21,760 the army. I don't need any of that VECNA and 966 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,000 now like a fucking wormhole, that's a big enough threat. 967 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,079 We don't also need other army guys. But I feel 968 00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:28,639 like they just put them in there because it's like, well, 969 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,440 what are Steven Hawpark or like, yes, Steve Hopper, Nancy 970 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,239 what are they gonna shoot at? Well, they can fight 971 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,960 the military. It's like all right, Like I feel like 972 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,639 this should be the time where the military goes man, 973 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,079 they see this wormhon't go. We fucked up. Everything's wrong 974 00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:45,400 because especially little Hamilton at the beginning, I know why 975 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,000 they need her now, but at the beginning felt like 976 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,400 they need the girl and trying to make her somewhat sympathetic. 977 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,000 So I would have been fine if they're like, you 978 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,400 know what, the last military screwed up. They closed the 979 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,239 portal and at the end when there were and maybe 980 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,639 this will still happen. But at the end when they're 981 00:43:58,679 --> 00:44:01,360 worried about are they gonna take a that person's just 982 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,920 gonna be like, hey, you know you die. This is over. 983 00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:07,519 We're out of here, Like go live your fucking life 984 00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:10,239 or get out of Hawkins. But we're not doing this anymore. 985 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,639 We almost had a fucking apocalypse happened to us, right, 986 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,599 So I digress. Uh, so we'll see. I like this 987 00:44:17,639 --> 00:44:19,639 stuff going on. We're sister, not sure what's gonna happen, 988 00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:23,800 if she's gonna sacrifice herself or if she's gonna turn 989 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,639 and like try and make a live and sacrifice herself. 990 00:44:25,679 --> 00:44:28,159 I could see her taking a villainous turn. I hope 991 00:44:28,159 --> 00:44:30,159 it's that. I hope it's nothing like working with Eckner 992 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,280 or something, so we'll see. Uh. Hopper was just more 993 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,559 of that where he's just, you know, afraid Levin's gonna die, 994 00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:39,119 usual good stuff with him and Joyce, the Dustin and 995 00:44:39,159 --> 00:44:43,320 Steve stuff. I don't mind there being tention. I don't 996 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,440 think they actually needed a whole like fistfight going on. 997 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,639 In my opinion, it's one of those things where it's like, well, 998 00:44:48,639 --> 00:44:51,000 I see when it's over. But like for the final season, 999 00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:54,119 these last time these characters together, did I need three 1000 00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:57,199 episodes of them not getting along? I don't know. I 1001 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,320 was fine with Dustin having a dark edge. I was 1002 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,800 fine with him not being the lovable Oh gosh, guys, 1003 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,559 we're gonna figure it out. I like that, and I 1004 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,239 didn't mind some of the arguments going on. But and 1005 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,039 even then too, when it was just weird stuff, when 1006 00:45:10,039 --> 00:45:11,960 see's like well Eddie didn't wasn't here, it's like, well 1007 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,199 he saved Dustin, and Dustin's multiple times save you guys, 1008 00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:17,159 so it's like, yeah, he was like like it just 1009 00:45:17,199 --> 00:45:21,119 felt like very childlike arguments from both Steve and Dustin, 1010 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,440 and to me, Steve's older so shouldn't be doing that. 1011 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,360 But also Dustin, as I said, they've been through the shit, 1012 00:45:25,519 --> 00:45:27,840 so it just felt like the same thing. I was like, well, 1013 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,519 speech about being gay. It's like, this is not the time, 1014 00:45:30,639 --> 00:45:34,719 you guys. The desk door is right there, the clock 1015 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,599 is ticking. You guys gotta find this generator. Shit could 1016 00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:40,159 go down and you guys are like, well, we're gonna 1017 00:45:40,199 --> 00:45:42,559 duke get out. It just didn't It didn't feel believable 1018 00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:44,920 for me, even the same way of like, to me, 1019 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,320 this feels fan seriously, but when Dustin and him were like, 1020 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,280 you know, I really missed my best friend. I missed 1021 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,719 my best friend too. Don't get me wrong. They've established 1022 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,039 that they're good friends their buddy. To me, it felt 1023 00:45:55,079 --> 00:45:59,639 like a like younger brother, older brother. Because I also 1024 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,800 don't see everything that happens on screen, right, so it 1025 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,800 could have happened. But if like every time these characters 1026 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,039 are together, it's in a group setting or they're forced 1027 00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:11,000 to be together, where Dustin and Eddie before they're before 1028 00:46:11,079 --> 00:46:13,519 the shit happened, they're playing D and D together, hanging out, 1029 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,239 it did not ever feel like Dustin and Steve were 1030 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,440 hanging out, so I can believe they're friends, I can 1031 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,079 believe they love one another. To say they're best friends, 1032 00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:24,360 it's like, I don't think so. Like I think like 1033 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,400 Robin is your best friend, Steve, and then one of 1034 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,360 the other boys is your best friend Dustin? Like it 1035 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,320 just all as you're doing, like the multiple best friends. 1036 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,480 That's fine, right, But they didn't say one of They 1037 00:46:32,519 --> 00:46:34,880 just made it seem like it was very singular. Steve's 1038 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,039 looking very cool and the jack again of the hair, 1039 00:46:37,159 --> 00:46:39,119 the hat. They're getting ready to have those swords that 1040 00:46:39,199 --> 00:46:41,559 Kim and Eddie had, and you know, he apologize for anything, 1041 00:46:41,559 --> 00:46:43,920 which I was good. All acting here was great. Nothing 1042 00:46:44,039 --> 00:46:46,880 on the acting, even the dialogue of them, you know, 1043 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,280 some of the shots they're taking. Still I think I'll 1044 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,599 say this, the delivery of the dialogue work. They did 1045 00:46:53,639 --> 00:46:55,719 their best to sell me. It was nothing with the 1046 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,840 actors for some of the actors to show maybe not 1047 00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,679 the grace, but nothing with the actors. Just some of 1048 00:46:59,679 --> 00:47:02,599 the just was like time and place and I just 1049 00:47:02,599 --> 00:47:04,760 don't know if we should get this level right now right, 1050 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,320 So we'll see and then what else to h and 1051 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,440 then we had Sadie Sinca with Max and Hally. She 1052 00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:14,639 finally got back. There's a few moments there too where 1053 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,079 they're getting back in Sadie sinks Caesar post okay, well 1054 00:47:18,639 --> 00:47:22,280 good luck out there. She does give a speech and 1055 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,199 she helps Hally, like, well you go here, that's how 1056 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,280 you can help. Even she got out there, I should 1057 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,400 have left her. It was like, yeah, that was kind 1058 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,079 of bold to leave her, right, you know what's gonna happen, 1059 00:47:31,159 --> 00:47:35,320 But like, it's fine, I get it. That's where there's 1060 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,000 something else I forgot happened. We had this moment where 1061 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,400 Joyce goes in love. I'm like, can you find my son? 1062 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,679 And she gets in the bath. It's like, I feel 1063 00:47:42,679 --> 00:47:44,079 like this is the fourth time we've done this in 1064 00:47:44,119 --> 00:47:46,679 the show of something's happening Will and Elevin's getting in 1065 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,519 a dark room or a bath. So it's just again 1066 00:47:48,559 --> 00:47:50,639 where it feels like a little repetition. When we have 1067 00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:55,440 Sadie sinc running to h what is it to kay 1068 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:56,960 Bush and then at the end when she wakes up, 1069 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,679 they play the exact same song that she went to 1070 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:03,320 the coma from. It's like again there's illusions, there's tribute. 1071 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,079 There's echoes and there sometimes where just feel like, you 1072 00:48:05,079 --> 00:48:07,880 know what, this is a little too Samesy and Sadie 1073 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:13,519 Sink running in the upside down, slow motion, dark stuff 1074 00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:16,719 going on, lightning with Kate Bush round the hill going, 1075 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,280 It's like, we already did this, we already did a montage, 1076 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,480 Like I just I don't know if we need this 1077 00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:23,880 here right. That's where I think there's a few things 1078 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,519 where it's like I feel like it's good randing here 1079 00:48:25,559 --> 00:48:27,280 because four to five seasons, I think is usually the 1080 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,360 perfect point and we're doing a little repetition. But I 1081 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,320 liked all these moments. I forgot and learned in between 1082 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,719 seasons that that Holy kid is the girl from Evil 1083 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,360 Dead Rise, which she was great, especially some of the 1084 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,360 stuff that had to put her in, all the blood 1085 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,880 and everything. It crazy amount of stuff going on there. 1086 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,119 So she's been great. All stuff with her kids been good. 1087 00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:49,400 I'm wondering to see what Derek does because it feels 1088 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:50,719 like he had a big role and then kind of 1089 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,320 just tapped out here like I thought he's gonna really 1090 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,639 help Hally. I still like that hero moment's coming, but 1091 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,800 I could be wrong, but I like the actress. I 1092 00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,920 like him and Max together. I like the scenes that 1093 00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:02,400 had with Henry, all the stuff with Vecna and him 1094 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,239 being Henry. I think that works. That was a great 1095 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,679 reveal of Will take it over, Vecna breaking his leg 1096 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,519 and like Max ron like like that stuff that was good. 1097 00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:12,440 She didn't know who it was. There was a weird 1098 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,000 moment where the first time they see each other, they 1099 00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:17,079 hug and then when Will says I'm gay, She's like, Oh, 1100 00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:18,559 You're gonna have to hug me. It's like, you guys 1101 00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:19,920 already did that. That's where I went, like, do you 1102 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,079 guys forget sometimes? What's you guys have ridden? Like they hugged, 1103 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,079 It's not a big deal. They're already hugging again. But 1104 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,000 I digress. So No, all that stuff was good, all 1105 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,119 that stuff of Max getting out, fucking Kleb whatever his 1106 00:49:33,199 --> 00:49:35,400 last name is, acting his ass off. I think he's 1107 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,079 gonna have a really good career. I think he's up 1108 00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:39,639 won the better ones and act as ass when Max 1109 00:49:39,679 --> 00:49:41,360 come back again. I still think City Think is like 1110 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,480 the best one of the young bunch and just great 1111 00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:47,199 in the whatever Henry's world. Great when she's waking up 1112 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,199 and how she can't feel stuff. All that stuff worked 1113 00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:54,880 out very well. Yeah, and then we got Robin and 1114 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,880 the nurse. We kind of done this before where we 1115 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,880 tell character this is happening, I don't believe you, and 1116 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,639 then the monsters show up. I believe you, and we're 1117 00:50:00,679 --> 00:50:03,159 in it. Fine, that's a right. I don't know if 1118 00:50:03,159 --> 00:50:05,719 I need the whole storyline where she gets the security restaurant, 1119 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,400 she thinks her girlfriend's a junkie. I know that's fine. 1120 00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:11,719 Just do you give rob something to do? Cool? Nah, 1121 00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:15,000 missus Wheeler came out and killed some demo dogs with 1122 00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:17,599 a gas tank and a dryer, which I thought was 1123 00:50:17,679 --> 00:50:20,440 very risky. Other kids are here, you could kill them, 1124 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,519 but like okay, and I just like that. They're already 1125 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,119 had too many characters because she's like, I gotta find 1126 00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:27,840 my dog, Like, well, you're sick, you got this. If 1127 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,559 you come out, you'd be even worse. And Mike's like, 1128 00:50:29,559 --> 00:50:31,000 you know what all those other people that you know, 1129 00:50:31,039 --> 00:50:32,840 all those times that the world was saved, that was us. 1130 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,239 So we got mom and most like all right, Like 1131 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,559 I still don't believe she would sit in her bed 1132 00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:39,280 while our daughter's out there, like if I'm a parent, 1133 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,199 even like I would give my life to make sure 1134 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,360 my parents my child's okay. So it felt really just 1135 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,440 like we got too many people in the scene. All right, 1136 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,639 there's like fourteen of us, so you sit here. I 1137 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,280 just didn't believe missus Wheeler would stay back. Don't know 1138 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,719 what's going on with mister Wheeler. So yeah, I'm trying 1139 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,679 to think there's anything else, but I don't think so 1140 00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:03,639 says Eleven, try to sacrifice herself but somehow survives and reunites. 1141 00:51:03,639 --> 00:51:06,199 It's actually crazy as health theory, I've heard, but I'm 1142 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,159 not sure of it. I miss Max is running. Let's see, 1143 00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:11,119 where's miss Wheeler hight after throwing that thing in the 1144 00:51:11,199 --> 00:51:14,119 washing machine out being noticed and getting in, I think 1145 00:51:14,119 --> 00:51:16,079 she literally just walks back to her bed and sits 1146 00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:18,360 down and they don't know what's her. And it's that simple. 1147 00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:21,480 I don't think the cameras work like they do nowadays, 1148 00:51:21,559 --> 00:51:24,039 so I think they wouldn't see her. So yeah, I 1149 00:51:24,039 --> 00:51:25,920 think she just goes back to sleep and like, I 1150 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,880 hope my kids are okay. But yeah, because that's the 1151 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,239 thing where Eleven, it's we talked about this in the 1152 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,800 discord Hopper sacrifice himself and dying. They did that at 1153 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,719 the end of season three, right, so rerunning that Eleven 1154 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,039 like closing a porter sacrifice herself. True, this would be 1155 00:51:42,039 --> 00:51:44,480 like the final time, but like that was season one, 1156 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,000 so it's just like they've kind of done the fake 1157 00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:48,599 deaths and you can't do them. It's just the actors 1158 00:51:48,679 --> 00:51:52,320 redoing things, right, So I could see that where it 1159 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,480 is she sacrifices heself but gets to live, even if 1160 00:51:55,519 --> 00:51:57,519 there was a way for the sister to make her live. 1161 00:51:57,559 --> 00:51:59,559 I don't know, but I just I don't know, but 1162 00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:01,400 I think it's that. I think they definitely do a 1163 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,880 fake out, but I think Eleven will survive. I don't 1164 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,719 think she'll perish. So yeah, we'll see. I'll be back 1165 00:52:08,119 --> 00:52:13,480 next week. I will be back next week, like I said, 1166 00:52:13,559 --> 00:52:16,199 I because New Year's Eve got some family plans, but 1167 00:52:16,199 --> 00:52:18,559 I just don't know when they are. So see that five. 1168 00:52:18,639 --> 00:52:20,559 That's about two hours, so we'll see. I will either 1169 00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:24,440 have a review New Year's Eve night or New Year's Day. 1170 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:25,760 We'll see them off for both of them. So just 1171 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,159 look out on those feeds. If you like that, subscribe 1172 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,400 you get to see on YouTube when the episode goes 1173 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,480 live or when we record it live and you can 1174 00:52:32,519 --> 00:52:34,519 subscribe as I said down below, hit spreaker and that's 1175 00:52:34,519 --> 00:52:37,559 where all our links are on Spotify, Apple and find 1176 00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:39,800 out what we're doing. And when that episode goes live 1177 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,159 right in the morning, it's there and if you want 1178 00:52:41,159 --> 00:52:43,599 to add free on Patreon. So thank you everyone that 1179 00:52:43,679 --> 00:52:45,360 watched the live I thank you. I couldn't or sorry, 1180 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:46,760 I couldn't get to all of them because obviously I 1181 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,639 would transition and they went somewhere else and I didn't 1182 00:52:48,639 --> 00:52:50,480 know which part you're referring to, But thank you for 1183 00:52:50,519 --> 00:52:52,320 watching on a box to day. I hope everyone that 1184 00:52:52,679 --> 00:52:55,199 listening had a good Christmas. Everyone's watching it had a 1185 00:52:55,199 --> 00:52:58,800 good Christmas. Hope everyone, and same thing in join our discord. 1186 00:52:59,159 --> 00:53:01,639 We're down below. So if there's something I missed, something 1187 00:53:01,679 --> 00:53:04,000 out wrong, please tell me because you know why, especially 1188 00:53:04,039 --> 00:53:06,039 if it's something was wrong about as far as non opinion, 1189 00:53:06,119 --> 00:53:07,599 just like oh they did say this or it's this 1190 00:53:08,159 --> 00:53:10,480 thing happened. That's great for being wrong, you know why, 1191 00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:11,920 because it means I get to like the show more 1192 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,559 if I go, ah, I didn't know if this really 1193 00:53:13,679 --> 00:53:16,679 tracked for me, So yeah, let me know. Let me 1194 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,599 know your thoughts on it. Join the discord Ram Fund 1195 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,280 conversation there, and I promise me here from next which 1196 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,800 will be next week, it'll not be boring. Merry Christmas,