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<v Speaker 1>What's up everybody? It is time for rose Pricks. It's

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<v Speaker 1>me Stephanie. I'm here with Cecily. We're fired up. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you why, no reason. No, we're fired up

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<v Speaker 1>because we have a real Housewives of the OC ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go, ready to record that we didn't get to

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<v Speaker 1>last week. And we feel really proud of ourselves that

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't just say. We're not the kind of people

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<v Speaker 1>that just go, you know what, we didn't get to

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<v Speaker 1>it last week, so we're just not going to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's not who we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Who are we It's not who we are are people

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<v Speaker 2>that take the OC very seriously. We know you take

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<v Speaker 2>it seriously. That's why you're here. So we're just up

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<v Speaker 2>a little from last week. I was in Texas Peak

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<v Speaker 2>behind a curtain, so we just got a little behind.

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<v Speaker 2>But here we are to start right away. We didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want you to miss a moment of Shannon cooking. It's

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<v Speaker 2>very important that we just start away right away with

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<v Speaker 2>Shannon frantically maniacally cooking, with a kind of a split

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<v Speaker 2>screen almost of Alex Sexy Lexi also maniacally cooking, because

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<v Speaker 2>they're really the same, y'all, Their love of John Jansen.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't the only thing they have in common?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>They want us to know? Can I can I make

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<v Speaker 3>a macro note? Please? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Here here's the problem that I'm having. I do read

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<v Speaker 1>the reddit about the OC, I read you know what's

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<v Speaker 1>in the news. I guess, and I feel that my

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<v Speaker 1>opinion about this whole thing is so different than everyone else's.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm I'm upset with myself for am I just

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<v Speaker 1>is this? Do I just have a bad read? Do

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<v Speaker 1>I have you know, a bad tape? Do I not

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>Is there? Am I just judgment I don't know. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yes, I am judgmental, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. But I'm trying really hard to see

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<v Speaker 1>things from Shannon's point of view. I'm really trying hard

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<v Speaker 1>to drum up some a lot of sympathy for her,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just hard. And it's I think for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because she's always been this. This isn't like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, they're all acting like this is brand new

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<v Speaker 1>behavior and this just has to do with John Jansen.

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<v Speaker 3>So awful. Okay, it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think there's two things happening here with Hanna,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think you're you're kind of seeing like this

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<v Speaker 2>pattern and it's frustrating. But I think what people are

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<v Speaker 2>responding to is the the ruthlessness with which especially Tamra

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<v Speaker 2>really only Tamra, it's gone beyond I mean, it's abusive. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like yelling at someone who is sick. I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's it's one thing to say, you know, have

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of tough love, but she's doing it

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<v Speaker 2>in a way way. First of all, Tamara is a couz.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a horrendous human being. Oh Shannon is not really

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<v Speaker 2>a cause she's just annoying as fuck and can be,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not great, but she wouldn't necessarily take you

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<v Speaker 2>out your lowest moment or take your I mean she

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't come back at Tamara, which she could and say

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<v Speaker 2>like your own fucking daughter won't talk to you, like

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<v Speaker 2>fuck off, Like that's what someone should say back to Tamara,

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<v Speaker 2>like as though she's suck and Tamra's wasted half the time,

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<v Speaker 2>So she is deflecting I think half of her shit

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<v Speaker 2>onto Shannon, who is also awful. So I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>where you're getting confused, because people are protecting Shannon because like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's too much. Now you're yelling at someone who's like sick.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess though, that I don't know that I that

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon is sick. In my estimation, I think that Shannon

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<v Speaker 1>is very entitled. Yeah, here's the thing I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't stand Tamra. So this isn't a matter of like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on Tamra's side. I'm not on Tamor's side. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Tamra's her I don't at all enjoy her coming

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<v Speaker 1>for people. I think it's all uh manipulative and plotted

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<v Speaker 1>and for a storyline. And she's mad that she was

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<v Speaker 1>ever off the show before, and she's like, I'll show them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be the you know, inserting herself into everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think she's terrible, right, I could also at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, I mean, Shannon was horrible to Gina

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<v Speaker 1>when Gina got her DUI.

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<v Speaker 3>Shannon is not nice. Shannon is not nice. She's judgmental.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, remember all her things about how she was

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<v Speaker 1>just like I start charities like she she just is

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm better than everybody. And now that she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give a fuck if she quits drinking or not,

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<v Speaker 1>it has nothing to do with that. It's none of

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<v Speaker 1>my business. If she wants to drink, that's fine. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think the Tamar should be has It's none of

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<v Speaker 1>Tamer's business what Shannon's doing with her sobriety. It's more

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<v Speaker 1>just like the you know, it's more irritating all of

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<v Speaker 1>her talk about I.

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<v Speaker 3>Shouldn't have to pay one dollar to John Jansen, he's

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<v Speaker 3>a monster.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, let's hope that comes out in discovery, because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that because you paid for a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of dates means that he owes you seventy five thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>And every time they show those scenes, I'm like, there

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<v Speaker 1>is something missing here and she has to be a

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<v Speaker 1>massive victim totally. What I mean, it doesn't matter that

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<v Speaker 1>you paid for everything. That doesn't mean he owes you

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<v Speaker 1>all the money that you paid, and if so, you

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<v Speaker 1>better show all the receipts and they better equal seventy

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. Right, Yeah, you're so mad that he's ruining

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<v Speaker 1>your reputation. You're trying to ruin his ru You're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to ruin somebody who's not even famous and didn't put

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<v Speaker 1>themselves on a show. Now, that doesn't mean I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he's a thirsty motherfucker who's horrible, that he's Brooks.

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<v Speaker 2>He's Brooksy. I mean, he didn't fake cancer, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>not far. He's bad dude. So, like, everybody's back again.

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<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, there's no heroes, but but one of the

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<v Speaker 1>heroes is not Shannon. And that's where I agreed. Feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm being gas lipped by the world. Who's like

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<v Speaker 1>poor Shannon. It's like, so poor Shannon for the last

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<v Speaker 1>ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm, because this whole thing was just one big

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<v Speaker 2>Truman show just to see if we could get you

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<v Speaker 2>to like Shannon when obviously she's terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole thing's been orchestrated for years and years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they do, though you're the only one who's saying, thank

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<v Speaker 3>you for being sane. You're welcome. Okay, we can get it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm done. Okay. Group A.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're back there in their groups. We have the

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<v Speaker 2>A team and the B team. The A team is

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<v Speaker 2>obviously Heather and Gina. You know, I am so the

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<v Speaker 2>more I spend time with Gina, and I know you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to disagree with me on this the more I

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<v Speaker 2>love her, I love I love her.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what it is, but I just love her.

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<v Speaker 1>That's actually it's so amanzy because the more I spend

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<v Speaker 1>time with Gina, the less I like her.

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<v Speaker 3>But then I but.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I'm I'm reminded of why I stopped watching this

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<v Speaker 1>show for a while. I'm like, yeah, it's I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I do enjoy it because I enjoy getting riled up

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<v Speaker 1>and having opinions about these things.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also I don't enjoy these people. I just don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't think any of them deserve to be

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<v Speaker 3>on TV. I want to just live with Gina for

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<v Speaker 3>a while. Is that weird? Do you think that's odd?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm dating?

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<v Speaker 2>If my texted her, if I am d MdeR just said,

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to live together for a while?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why. Treavis is mad at me, and

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<v Speaker 3>she's mad at me, and you're mad at me, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's just mad at me, And now I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to play pickleball. John jans is mad at me. You're

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<v Speaker 2>like Gina. John Janssen doesn't even know you.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not mad.

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<v Speaker 2>He's suing me for seventy five thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he's nice. What are you talking about? Oh? I

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<v Speaker 3>thought he was. I'm sorry I made a big deal,

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<v Speaker 3>but he was. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm from New York. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 2>know that, but I'm from Long Islands.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know from law suits. I'm just so,

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<v Speaker 3>I just started doing real estate. What do I know?

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<v Speaker 3>I love her.

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<v Speaker 2>But so they're having this conversation about John Jansen. You

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<v Speaker 2>can tell Heather does not believe Shannon. I will give

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<v Speaker 2>you that. She has this like this isn't making sense

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<v Speaker 2>kind of Look, Shannon's totally full of shit, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she gives the example of why she doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>owe John Jansen money because she paid for a ten

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars hotel excursion for his daughter's birthday or something,

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<v Speaker 2>which is probably true. I mean, that might be true,

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<v Speaker 2>but that doesn't mean that she didn't take a loan

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<v Speaker 2>for seventy five thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying. That's exactly what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Is her whole thing is like, this is horrible and

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<v Speaker 1>it's absolutely not true. And then she says, oh, so

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<v Speaker 1>he was just paying you back for all the things

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<v Speaker 1>you paid for and she goes, well, that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>was led to believe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we were led to believe. Mind in your delusion,

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<v Speaker 3>you decided that show me the proof.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are your receipts? Where's Where's one text message where

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, you know what, I feel really bad

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<v Speaker 1>that you paid for everything for so long. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to pay you this amount of money, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And only by the way, she kind of I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>this let I liked her. She's what I like about Emily.

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<v Speaker 2>She's smart, she's smart. She is kind of the voice

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<v Speaker 2>of reason. She can be annoying to me, but I

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<v Speaker 2>like that. She's like, why don't you just send him

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll have your lawyers send an offer of thirty thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, before you go to court, like you.

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<v Speaker 3>Shouldn't have to.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not paid, right, You didn't feel bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Bad, but they all felt bad. I know, so nobody

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<v Speaker 3>can I feel bad? I feel bad?

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<v Speaker 2>No one cares, You're right, sheh Hannah never asked fucking

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<v Speaker 2>Gina about like, how are you doing now that you're

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<v Speaker 2>along with your love moved out?

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<v Speaker 3>No? Are you with the kids. She doesn't care about

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<v Speaker 3>anybody else but herself, and what and she's I just

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<v Speaker 3>don't like that intense victim.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, I agree. I agree that they're all terrible

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<v Speaker 2>to except Gina and maybe Heather, who I would also

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<v Speaker 2>spend time with.

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<v Speaker 3>And I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, I do under I understand why they're not all

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<v Speaker 1>calling her on the carpet because they're nice people. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not all of them, but you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, Okay, we get it. It's not a good

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<v Speaker 1>look for us to be just constantly haranguing her. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not helping her. And they all get that. And Tama

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't understand that, Like, oh, Tamra understands she's just a cunt.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she really is a bad well just Tamra's

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<v Speaker 1>only interested in like proving a point and thinking that

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<v Speaker 1>the audience is going to be on her side.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think she's going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Very surprised to find out that everybody hates her now.

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<v Speaker 3>What they always did.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you look at like whispering and read

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<v Speaker 2>at some of the stuff, everyone's like, why did we

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<v Speaker 2>reminder she was put on pause. They got her, she

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<v Speaker 2>snuck herself back in. How does she not see that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I love in the previews for next week when

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<v Speaker 2>they were doing some weird ass thing and they were like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, oh Sears, you know Real Housewives and Vicky

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<v Speaker 2>Vicky got so much. Yeah, so Sitch love love that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not even this episode, but we'll get there, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So it goes to the B team, which is in

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<v Speaker 2>Big Bear, and they're just such a nightmare group of

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<v Speaker 2>people and they're so wasted, Tamra especially, but they're all

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<v Speaker 2>just have so much judgment. They're all just like they're

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<v Speaker 2>the word. They're the reason you stopped watching OC. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the group.

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<v Speaker 3>That kind of mentality of like where are.

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<v Speaker 2>The OC blondes were so wasted, so like they're fucked up.

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<v Speaker 2>They would have been a nightmare in our twenties. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we found out did we remember Jen has

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<v Speaker 2>nine kids? They're having some conversation. It comes out like

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<v Speaker 2>Jen's feeling bad about her ex husband Will.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. This is another one where I do not and

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<v Speaker 1>And this is where I feel crazy. I I have

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<v Speaker 1>zero sympathy for Jen. You too, don't get it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't her whole I don't like her demeanor where She's.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like, I'm just a girl. I just love blonde

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<v Speaker 2>Why is everybody I don't understand me? You do want

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<v Speaker 2>do I should do the only fans?

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<v Speaker 3>You want me to do the only fans. It always

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<v Speaker 3>becomes you.

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<v Speaker 2>Said out that you really think I should for my freezies.

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<v Speaker 2>You want me to put my toesies on the only friends.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel awkward. I don't know if I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I got down to why.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's going to be mad, which is not really mad?

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<v Speaker 2>And isn't it funny? Did you notice that it was

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<v Speaker 2>Tamra that had She's like, oh, I'm blocked, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>see my ex'es stuff. And Tamer's like, well I can't

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<v Speaker 2>here to show like she.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like she she's terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>She loves her friends, her quote unquote friends to suffer.

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<v Speaker 2>She loves watching them suffer. Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's terrible. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go look, let's look, let's go the flashback of

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<v Speaker 2>Alexis making it totally about her. Flashback to her praying

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<v Speaker 2>for Tamar, when Tamar's crying about her daughter, She's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>may the Lord bless you. They're like doing like they're

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<v Speaker 2>speaking in tongues. They're just drunk. That's just drunk tongues.

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<v Speaker 3>Drunk tongues. I love your drunk tongues. The Lord made Jesus.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I mean, I'm like, I'm surprised they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>dunk her in something. Oh they have Remember when Tamara

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<v Speaker 3>got baptized?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh yeah, these people are the fakest religious people ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Alexis is the worst of them. But then it

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<v Speaker 2>goes back and forth. So now we're on the pickleball

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<v Speaker 2>court with Emily and Gina, we already yeah, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I just oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because they go back and forth. So I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>skipped Shannon stupid eyelash situation, and I don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>It felt it felt very junior high. At first, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, what is this like? It felt like Emily

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't Emily was saying Gene couldn't be friends with someone

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<v Speaker 2>because she wasn't good enough friends with her.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you get that vibe? Remember in junior high? Would

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<v Speaker 3>you'd be.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you said you hated Elaine and now you like Elaine? Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a very much interesting thing. Also, they start though

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<v Speaker 2>where Gina has to see. This is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>reasons I don't really like Gina. Gina can be really

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<v Speaker 2>bitchy and in her in her confessional, she's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I guess all the hours that Emily spent

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<v Speaker 2>at the gym didn't translate into athleticism.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't mind that. I think that's cute. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's cute.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she would say I think she would say

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<v Speaker 2>that to Emily. I think they rib each other. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think Emily thinks that she's athletic. She doesn't like

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<v Speaker 2>to play tennis and stuff. So I don't think she

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't saying she was like heavy or something. She was

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<v Speaker 2>just saying like she's not good at ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I thought it was. I was like, Gina,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not either. Both of you guys look terrible out there,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't there is it really cause for slamming?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, she's at this point too though. Yeah, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't pick up. I hear you.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't feel that. But just because Gina is my

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<v Speaker 2>heart and I am her.

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<v Speaker 3>Heart, right, that's what it. Yeah, Now I get that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I also liked it.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're yelling at each other, and I like that

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<v Speaker 2>Gina kind of started fighting back.

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<v Speaker 3>She didn't used to fight back.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a pleaser, and I like that she yelled back

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<v Speaker 2>to Emily, like, you know, you're kind of a grand bitch,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't like it, don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what this little character is that you're playing.

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<v Speaker 1>But like stop, yeah, but you know it's just funny

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<v Speaker 1>because I and I do not like Emily either. See

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm just having all the bad takes people. People

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be like unfollowed this show. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>bad takes. No one likes any of these people except

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<v Speaker 1>me and Gina. Okay, Well, honestly, I kind of felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I kind of understood where Emily was coming from,

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<v Speaker 1>because Gina does to me, Gina does seem like whoever's

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<v Speaker 1>like in charge, whoever she deems to be like in

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<v Speaker 1>charge and can help her.

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<v Speaker 3>She cowtows too, And I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think Emily was just like what I don't understand, Like

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<v Speaker 1>Katie was your friend, You love, love, love Katie so

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<v Speaker 1>much you brought her onto the show, and the second

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<v Speaker 1>Heather had a problem with her, you were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>who's that?

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<v Speaker 3>Who's Katie? Fuck Katie hater? And I did if I'm Emily,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, well, that's just weird. Why are you doing that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but Emily kind of, you know, became friends with Tamra.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Emily's always on the wrong side. She's

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<v Speaker 2>married to that troll. She makes a lot of bad choices.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't like they showed the flashback of her

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<v Speaker 2>yelling at everybody constantly, Oh jes.

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<v Speaker 3>Channel, this is what I'm saying. I'm not. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>sticking up for her.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I understand her questioning of of Gina's loyalties.

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<v Speaker 1>Gina's loyalties shifts really fascinating. I don't I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>what Gina did with the whole, with that whole situation,

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<v Speaker 1>with trying to get Katie to bring it up, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get Katie to start a fight, and then being.

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<v Speaker 3>Like what I didn't I told her to minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Later and I told it, don't bring it up. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>don't bring it up. I think people misheard my words.

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<v Speaker 1>They twisted my words, and they thought I said bring

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<v Speaker 1>it up. I said don't. They just didn't. I buried

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<v Speaker 1>the don't. But I don't trust Katie.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't trust I mean, I just don't trust I

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<v Speaker 2>think I think Gina and Emily are real friends. I

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<v Speaker 2>think this fight was very real, which I liked because

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<v Speaker 2>you don't get a lot of real moments on these shows. True,

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<v Speaker 2>So when she throws her thing and she's pissed and

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<v Speaker 2>then they cry and there's a moment they're hugging and

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<v Speaker 2>crying and they're like, we just And I like the

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<v Speaker 2>way that Emily was like, we just were good. We

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<v Speaker 2>just needed to do that. It built up and we

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<v Speaker 2>needed to do it right. And then, you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're fine. Don't worry Stephanie. Okay, don't worry

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<v Speaker 2>about them. It sounds like you're very worried about Gina,

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<v Speaker 2>are you.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I am, I'm a little worried about it. I

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<v Speaker 3>just feel like, because of Kiris, what if Tvis breaks

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<v Speaker 3>up with her? What will she do? Then? Okay, so

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<v Speaker 3>then this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is like that's a nightmare in and of itself, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we have to go back to Jen and Tamar

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<v Speaker 2>and these idiots. When I was like why why is

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<v Speaker 2>also there's.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody why is Katie in that group? Even? Why did

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<v Speaker 3>she choose that group?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Because she doesn't like Heather, right, That's what it

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<v Speaker 2>is right right.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't like Heather, and she's also here's enough. I

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<v Speaker 1>do not like Katie at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Me neither.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like her.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's fake as fuck. She can't play golf

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<v Speaker 1>mm hmm, and her whole thing is about golf. Even

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<v Speaker 1>her tagline is golf and she's admittedly terrible at golf.

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<v Speaker 3>It all feels so fake.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, then it was interesting that Jen pops up to

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<v Speaker 2>tell tam Rat, which I think we should be calling

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<v Speaker 2>her more of Tamar to calm down with the Heather thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Even Jen is like she's been yelled out of this group.

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<v Speaker 2>She's been on the other side of it. She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you need to have a little grace. Although with yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>with she said it with the Heather with no, with

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<v Speaker 2>the not Heather with Shannon. That was the conversation, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But then Alexis said that they need to stop their

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<v Speaker 2>fake the fake fight with Heather. She didn't call it

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<v Speaker 2>a fake fight, but there was a little They were

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<v Speaker 2>just back and forth telling Tamar to calm down.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, first, Kate, they're all talking about each other because

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<v Speaker 1>Katie's like, you know what, like, if Heather apologizes to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>But I am the innocent one here. I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>you're You're not Katie, You're really not. Yeah. And then

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<v Speaker 3>Jen is like, hi, damn that. I'm so happy with

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<v Speaker 3>our friendship, with where we are, and I see what

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<v Speaker 3>you're doing with Shannon. I really get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. And then Tama's like, what what am

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<v Speaker 1>I doing? I'm not attacking her? And then they flash

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<v Speaker 1>They do a flashback of her attacking Shannon, and Jen goes.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe if you care about her, maybe you call ohe

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<v Speaker 3>her like that hard conversation. It's like, but Jen, she's already.

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<v Speaker 1>Had hard conversations with her. She's a whole horrible bitch

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<v Speaker 1>and yells at her, don't end this on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, of course she's You're right, she's egging it

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<v Speaker 2>on because she doesn't want it on her. For a second,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not on her. But I think she's trying to

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<v Speaker 2>say that she should be a little gentler. That was

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<v Speaker 2>the vibe I was getting from Jen.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh see, I thought she was telling her you should

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<v Speaker 1>meet with her and tell her how you feel.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, no, you she shouldn't, right, But they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do it anyway. It's already scheduled. Of course, it's

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<v Speaker 2>meet for her as in the production on our OC calendar.

417
00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:28.559
<v Speaker 2>But let's take a look at the production calendar. It

418
00:20:28.559 --> 00:20:30.400
<v Speaker 2>looks like you're meeting with her on Friday. You should

419
00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:31.759
<v Speaker 2>go ahead and keep that appointment.

420
00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:36.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, so stupid. So then so then John Jansen

421
00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:42.279
<v Speaker 3>calls Alexis, oh my god, oh my god, and she's

422
00:20:42.359 --> 00:20:47.640
<v Speaker 3>and yeah, and she's so I'm literally I can't do

423
00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:52.640
<v Speaker 3>Alexis's place. Guys. I'm literally gonna lose it. I'm losing

424
00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:53.200
<v Speaker 3>at you, guys.

425
00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:55.240
<v Speaker 2>And I love that this whole episode too, they've been

426
00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:58.480
<v Speaker 2>showing Alexis is not coked out, but she seems like it.

427
00:20:58.559 --> 00:21:02.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they're all just offering her. I mean, she's

428
00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:05.839
<v Speaker 2>just horrendous. As they make fun of her, They're just

429
00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:08.359
<v Speaker 2>like she's a dingbat, Like is this the part have

430
00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:10.559
<v Speaker 2>they done the thing where maybe maybe I skipped this

431
00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:13.000
<v Speaker 2>where they asked her to like, do you prefer coffee

432
00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:14.559
<v Speaker 2>or red Bull in the morning? And she goes off

433
00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:15.599
<v Speaker 2>on like a tangent.

434
00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:18.119
<v Speaker 1>First scene that was in the very first scene, and

435
00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:22.640
<v Speaker 1>then Katie Katie goes, yeah, that's what I love about Alexis,

436
00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:25.039
<v Speaker 1>Like you don't really even have to be in the conversation.

437
00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:27.599
<v Speaker 1>You could just like say something and she'll go off

438
00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:30.480
<v Speaker 1>on a crazy tangent. Did you catch the production did

439
00:21:30.519 --> 00:21:33.039
<v Speaker 1>like a close up on the coffee or whatever, and

440
00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:35.480
<v Speaker 1>there was a bunch of pills there. No, I'm sure

441
00:21:35.480 --> 00:21:37.960
<v Speaker 1>they were like menopause pill. They were probably VIE supplements

442
00:21:38.039 --> 00:21:38.279
<v Speaker 1>or something.

443
00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:40.839
<v Speaker 2>But they didn't close about these pills when she's talking,

444
00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, crazy. So yeah, she's very upset, she's

445
00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:47.720
<v Speaker 2>super fired up. I feel she's fake crying in the scene.

446
00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:51.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, what is she crying about about? She gloves

447
00:21:51.279 --> 00:21:52.839
<v Speaker 2>are off, gloves are off.

448
00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:53.920
<v Speaker 3>But you can't know what.

449
00:21:54.079 --> 00:21:56.359
<v Speaker 1>How does any of this affect her? That's the thing, Like,

450
00:21:56.400 --> 00:22:00.000
<v Speaker 1>how does her whole thing is? She's so fucking cod

451
00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:03.400
<v Speaker 1>pendant already with her boyfriend of like a few months

452
00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:07.279
<v Speaker 1>that anything that he says about Shannon Alexis is like

453
00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:10.039
<v Speaker 1>work gonna dost dry.

454
00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Which she used to do with Jim, the worst man

455
00:22:13.720 --> 00:22:17.119
<v Speaker 2>in the world somehow, like even worse than Brooks. He

456
00:22:17.319 --> 00:22:21.519
<v Speaker 2>was my least favorite guy to ever Tamara show terrible, horrible,

457
00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:23.680
<v Speaker 2>And I like that that comes up later when Tamara

458
00:22:23.720 --> 00:22:26.440
<v Speaker 2>finally has an AHA moment, even though it's ridiculous because

459
00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:28.559
<v Speaker 2>it's with Shannon. It's like all that, well, we'll get

460
00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:31.079
<v Speaker 2>to that, but all the memories come flooding back. They're like, oh, yeah,

461
00:22:31.119 --> 00:22:34.200
<v Speaker 2>Alexis was suing us, and yeah that is kind of hard,

462
00:22:34.319 --> 00:22:37.640
<v Speaker 2>like what the fuck this is your and Tamara and

463
00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:40.559
<v Speaker 2>Alexis are like their besties in this house, all drunk together,

464
00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:44.519
<v Speaker 2>holding each other, baptizing each other. Mm hmm. And she

465
00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:47.359
<v Speaker 2>hated John Jansen. Everyone hated John Jansen, but now they

466
00:22:47.440 --> 00:22:50.200
<v Speaker 2>like now and now Tama's like, you know, I like,

467
00:22:50.279 --> 00:22:53.039
<v Speaker 2>you've never been mean to me, You've always been nice.

468
00:22:52.839 --> 00:22:57.680
<v Speaker 3>To Tamra's not smart, like, she's not strategic. She's just

469
00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:00.759
<v Speaker 3>throwing shit against the wall and it's none of it's

470
00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:03.839
<v Speaker 3>gonna stick, and it's gonna look bad for her and

471
00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:06.279
<v Speaker 3>just her. She's so there's so much meanness that's just

472
00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:07.400
<v Speaker 3>like in her face.

473
00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, could you imagine ding her daughter? Like no,

474
00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:12.359
<v Speaker 1>wonder her kids don't speak to her.

475
00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:14.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's probably some video that we don't know about.

476
00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:17.839
<v Speaker 2>So the video comes up, but they can't say I can't.

477
00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:20.200
<v Speaker 2>I'll let John Jansen speak for it. But it's gonna

478
00:23:20.279 --> 00:23:22.680
<v Speaker 2>ruin Shannon's life and We're like, what is it, Well,

479
00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:25.039
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna find episodes. Yeah, we do find out from

480
00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:29.119
<v Speaker 2>Katie later. So then all the dumb recaps they all

481
00:23:29.160 --> 00:23:31.720
<v Speaker 2>come back, and the dumb recaps with the dogs.

482
00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:35.839
<v Speaker 1>But that also remember, uh because I just was like,

483
00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:40.559
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I I rolled so hard. Alexis is

484
00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:45.400
<v Speaker 1>so upset that she lays on in the bed crying, go.

485
00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:49.799
<v Speaker 3>Like she's a month. Sure, Oh my god, what did

486
00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:50.640
<v Speaker 3>she do to you?

487
00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:54.160
<v Speaker 1>You're with her boyfriend? Right, it's not if you stole

488
00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:59.039
<v Speaker 1>the boyfriend. You're with him. He's suing her. How how

489
00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:01.240
<v Speaker 1>is Shennon a month? Mm hm.

490
00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:06.599
<v Speaker 2>So then so that she's like me okay. So then

491
00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:08.720
<v Speaker 2>it's like we're done. We're done with these little scenes.

492
00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:11.279
<v Speaker 2>So they have their dumb like recaps with dogs to

493
00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:13.759
<v Speaker 2>show that men are stupid and only the ladies know

494
00:24:13.799 --> 00:24:15.359
<v Speaker 2>how to take care of the dogs, which actually is

495
00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:18.119
<v Speaker 2>kind of true right in some ways. Uh So, then

496
00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:20.759
<v Speaker 2>Tamra goes over to Gina's house, where we find out

497
00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:22.880
<v Speaker 2>that all the kids are sleeping in one bedroom.

498
00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:28.119
<v Speaker 3>I feel like Gina has some management issues. Does I'm

499
00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:31.559
<v Speaker 3>doing some construction.

500
00:24:31.240 --> 00:24:33.839
<v Speaker 2>And they're writing on the walls because they know we're

501
00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:37.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna paint and Tarma even here, Tamra's aelesto. She's like, oh, okay,

502
00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:40.880
<v Speaker 2>so where are they sleeping? All in my bedroom? So

503
00:24:40.920 --> 00:24:42.119
<v Speaker 2>min I'm on the couch.

504
00:24:43.240 --> 00:24:47.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I didn't think about how much toyme it might take.

505
00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:51.839
<v Speaker 3>And also Travis doesn't live here, so he can't help me.

506
00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:55.720
<v Speaker 3>It's a lot, although he might break up with me.

507
00:24:55.799 --> 00:24:57.720
<v Speaker 3>And I'm really skewed about that.

508
00:24:58.319 --> 00:25:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Skew it, like, I'm like she was, well, we I

509
00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:02.319
<v Speaker 2>lived in a casita.

510
00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:04.440
<v Speaker 3>Kept yelling that to Shannon.

511
00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:07.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I understood her point that you downsize when

512
00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:09.000
<v Speaker 2>you have to, but like, okay, maybe you're not.

513
00:25:09.160 --> 00:25:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Maybe you're going too far. So I moved all of

514
00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:13.240
<v Speaker 3>my three kids into.

515
00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:15.799
<v Speaker 2>A studio apartment and we just eat soup off the floor.

516
00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:18.640
<v Speaker 2>We don't even have bulls because we don't leave the bull.

517
00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Travis took our bulls. And it's okay.

518
00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:24.519
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't buy those.

519
00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Spoons, but I'm not going to because I'm not because

520
00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:28.680
<v Speaker 1>like I don't.

521
00:25:28.920 --> 00:25:31.880
<v Speaker 3>It's like buying a Rolex. I don't need spoons. It's

522
00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:33.119
<v Speaker 3>a luxury them.

523
00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Because I drank one time and then I got in trouble,

524
00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:39.319
<v Speaker 2>so I don't use spoons. Okay, Gina, I do still

525
00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:41.039
<v Speaker 2>love you if you're listening, and I know she does

526
00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:41.920
<v Speaker 2>listen to the show.

527
00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

528
00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:46.759
<v Speaker 2>Now they go to a candy store. Uh yeah, they

529
00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:51.759
<v Speaker 2>go to em and Katie. Yeah, and they're recapping again,

530
00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:56.160
<v Speaker 2>recapping everything that we've already just seen and like last

531
00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:59.200
<v Speaker 2>episodes and just just.

532
00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Gossiping about each other to the point that like I

533
00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:03.640
<v Speaker 1>almost want to be like pencils down.

534
00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:05.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know anymore. I don't know.

535
00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Or care who's fighting with her. They're just trying to

536
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:12.359
<v Speaker 1>bring shit up. They're like, yeah, Katie's Like I thought

537
00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:16.519
<v Speaker 1>Gina was a girl's girl for me, but now I'm

538
00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:18.519
<v Speaker 1>realizing she's a girl's girl for Heather.

539
00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:23.200
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, yeah, say, I would be too. Heather's fun.

540
00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:24.440
<v Speaker 2>She's gonna take you to New York.

541
00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:25.240
<v Speaker 3>It's the blast.

542
00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Heather's probably the only saying. I mean, she's a snob

543
00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:30.519
<v Speaker 2>and she's a suffer, but she's all the things right.

544
00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:32.079
<v Speaker 2>But she's still I could see what you'd want to

545
00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:32.759
<v Speaker 2>hang out with her.

546
00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I can too, but again, as so that I don't

547
00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:37.640
<v Speaker 1>come off as a hypocrite.

548
00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:38.359
<v Speaker 2>Hmm.

549
00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:43.079
<v Speaker 1>I do think that she jumped ship pretty fast after

550
00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:45.720
<v Speaker 1>trying I do if I'm Katie, and I'm like, this

551
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:49.079
<v Speaker 1>bitch brought me on the show and then told me

552
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:51.599
<v Speaker 1>to bring this thing. First of all, I'm not on

553
00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:55.839
<v Speaker 1>Katie's side with this stupid she called the paparazzi. And look,

554
00:26:55.880 --> 00:27:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I have proof because some guy named Scott is on

555
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:02.839
<v Speaker 1>my text saying yeah, she did call paparazzi.

556
00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:04.319
<v Speaker 3>So I have the proof, I have the receipts.

557
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:07.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not on her site either, but I do think

558
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:11.200
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting that Gina was like, Yeah, you've got to

559
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:12.880
<v Speaker 1>bring it up. You've got to bring it up. If

560
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you don't bring it up, well I'm gonna bring it up.

561
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:16.200
<v Speaker 1>You've got to bring it up. And then was like,

562
00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:18.400
<v Speaker 1>what I didn't tell her to bring it up, and

563
00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:18.799
<v Speaker 1>it's just.

564
00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Like a dead dumb story that no one cared about

565
00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:23.480
<v Speaker 2>hers oppression. Finally was like, we should let this one go.

566
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:26.440
<v Speaker 2>There's not going to let this happen, right, So okay,

567
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:29.319
<v Speaker 2>so Gina back to Gina and Tarma. It's going back

568
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:31.920
<v Speaker 2>and forth and they that's when they're talking about so Tamara,

569
00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:34.799
<v Speaker 2>who needs to go to alan on and also probably

570
00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:38.359
<v Speaker 2>AA for herself, like she's got some shit Tamra, she's

571
00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:41.319
<v Speaker 2>got some problems, but she's asking all She's like, oh, okay,

572
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:43.880
<v Speaker 2>so how is your time with Shannon? Did she drink?

573
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:46.759
<v Speaker 2>And she was like yeah, I mean you know, she drank.

574
00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:50.920
<v Speaker 2>She wasn't wasted, but she drank, which is not Tamora's place.

575
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh she drank. Okay, now writing that down.

576
00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Like, worry about yourself, girl.

577
00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:03.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's funny because of course Tamar is super

578
00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:07.880
<v Speaker 1>triggered by Shannon drinking, because I think Tamara just feels

579
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:10.880
<v Speaker 1>like this is something now she has over Shannon, and

580
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:14.799
<v Speaker 1>she needs to be angry, and she really wants everybody

581
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:17.680
<v Speaker 1>else to be angry about it, and she cannot believe

582
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.680
<v Speaker 1>that anybody would be tolerant and be like, well, Shannon's

583
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:25.839
<v Speaker 1>going to get it when she gets it right, So

584
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:28.839
<v Speaker 1>she just has to keep picking at it. And the

585
00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:33.839
<v Speaker 1>thing is, yeah, Shannon, it's sad Shannon is still drinking.

586
00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:38.799
<v Speaker 1>It's not great like she did she did, you know,

587
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:42.640
<v Speaker 1>cause a lot of destruction. But and she is in denial.

588
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:45.359
<v Speaker 1>But it's not going to help her for Tamara to

589
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:50.000
<v Speaker 1>keep going Hell, that's never helped anybody ammers up about

590
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:53.000
<v Speaker 1>the tape. Finally, there's some information that at some point

591
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:55.079
<v Speaker 1>is being released. They're like, Okay, what is WEP with.

592
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:58.160
<v Speaker 2>This tape And it turns out that it's that there's

593
00:28:58.319 --> 00:28:59.119
<v Speaker 2>ring footage.

594
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:03.039
<v Speaker 1>Well she hold on, hold on, but I have I

595
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:05.119
<v Speaker 1>thought this was kind of an important scene, so I

596
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:08.960
<v Speaker 1>just had a little bit more about it. So after uh,

597
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Tamar's like, was she drinking? And then she goes yeah,

598
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>And then Tamer goes, yeah, she loves to drink. She's

599
00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>an alcoholic. And then she goes like like when you

600
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:20.759
<v Speaker 1>got a dui. Uh, She's like, you got a dui,

601
00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:23.960
<v Speaker 1>but you weren't even an alcohol you weren't an alcoholic. Now,

602
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:26.759
<v Speaker 1>so now Tamra's actually, no, that's.

603
00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:27.200
<v Speaker 3>Not what she said.

604
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.839
<v Speaker 2>She said you didn't have a problem drinking, and Gina said,

605
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:32.680
<v Speaker 2>yes I did, right, So distinguishing between being an alcoholic

606
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:35.960
<v Speaker 2>or being a problem drinker, which can be two different things.

607
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:39.359
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so but yes, but Gina, but Tamar is so

608
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>like what are you a psychiatrist? Like how are you

609
00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>So you're going to diagnose Gina and diagnose Tamar? And

610
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was really important that Gina's like, uh,

611
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>that's not true.

612
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:51.440
<v Speaker 3>I do have a drinking problem.

613
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>And then Tamar's like, oh really, and then Gina tells us,

614
00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>which I thought was a really important story point. She's like, yeah,

615
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>when I got my duy. She goes, when I got

616
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:06.079
<v Speaker 1>my d y, I kept drinking because I felt like

617
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:10.240
<v Speaker 1>a loser. You know, I was ready to take responsibility

618
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:13.240
<v Speaker 1>for my actions, but I wasn't ready to quit drinking.

619
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:16.839
<v Speaker 1>I thought this was really important because I do think

620
00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:19.839
<v Speaker 1>that this is what's happening with Shannon. And then Tarama

621
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:24.039
<v Speaker 1>tries to go, yeah, but but she it's an asshole,

622
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:29.799
<v Speaker 1>and Gina is She's like, okay, listen, she's not ready

623
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:33.279
<v Speaker 1>to quit, and you can't make somebody be ready, right,

624
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>And then Tara is like, well, yeah, I guess I

625
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:38.759
<v Speaker 1>need to talk to her. But I think tough love

626
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:40.720
<v Speaker 1>is the best thing for her. And I wanted to

627
00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>be like, how is that working?

628
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:42.839
<v Speaker 3>Right?

629
00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:47.000
<v Speaker 1>It's making it so much worse and everybody's telling you

630
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>to stop doing it, And Tamra's like, no, I'm going

631
00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:50.359
<v Speaker 1>to keep doing it.

632
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Yes, that is an important thing, and I love

633
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:56.200
<v Speaker 2>That's another reason I love Gina.

634
00:30:56.359 --> 00:30:59.119
<v Speaker 1>She's just like she's solid. I did like Gina at

635
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:02.039
<v Speaker 1>that point. She's being really honest. It's hard to admit

636
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:05.119
<v Speaker 1>she's talking about her duy and she's admitting, which she

637
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:07.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't have to do, that she continued drinking. I'm sure

638
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:10.039
<v Speaker 1>she got the dui, and that is a lot of people's.

639
00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:13.279
<v Speaker 3>Path I don't know that she totally doesn't drink. Now.

640
00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:16.319
<v Speaker 3>I don't think she's one hundred percent sober. She's sober,

641
00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:18.400
<v Speaker 3>but she she's California sober.

642
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, she smokes a little yep meth hm, that's you

643
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:22.880
<v Speaker 2>guys who A lot of people don't know.

644
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:25.640
<v Speaker 3>That's California sober. It's just heroin shooting up Harolin. Just

645
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:27.720
<v Speaker 3>a heroin. But that's Los Angela's sober.

646
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, la a sober so specific Baker's field sober is the.

647
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:33.960
<v Speaker 3>Mouth, yes, yeah.

648
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:36.079
<v Speaker 2>So it's just ridiculous that Tamara needs to be told

649
00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:37.920
<v Speaker 2>to be nicer, but that's not going to work for

650
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:38.359
<v Speaker 2>her either.

651
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:38.960
<v Speaker 3>She's Tamra.

652
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>She needs to be told to stop fucking yelling about

653
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:44.839
<v Speaker 1>Channing about her drinking, which is like, come on you,

654
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:48.079
<v Speaker 1>how do you need to be told to stop harassing

655
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.799
<v Speaker 1>somebody and being abusive over somebody's drinking, right, which is

656
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:52.960
<v Speaker 1>insane of her business.

657
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:56.920
<v Speaker 2>So then we go back to the Katie conversation about it.

658
00:31:57.119 --> 00:31:59.319
<v Speaker 2>Finally this big news we've been waiting for. And I

659
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:01.799
<v Speaker 2>don't know why, Why does Katie have this information?

660
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:02.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

661
00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:05.279
<v Speaker 2>It's so weird and they didn't explain it.

662
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:06.440
<v Speaker 3>It's like, what is this tape thing?

663
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:10.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's ring footage of Shannon almost running over John

664
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Jansen's daughter. Okay, that is terrible. That may be true,

665
00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:15.319
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, why is what the fuck?

666
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:20.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh you sorry? Sorry? But how is that going to

667
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:23.119
<v Speaker 3>ruin her life? How is that going to ruin her She.

668
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:27.119
<v Speaker 1>Already got the DUI, it's already on. We've already seen

669
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the footage of her. She hit a house, she had

670
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>killed her Yeah, she had her dog in the car

671
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>like almost doing something else like it was obviously in

672
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:37.839
<v Speaker 1>the same incident.

673
00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:40.279
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm. Yeah, unless she was.

674
00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Trying to do it on purpose exactly exactly, but I didn't.

675
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I think if she was that they would have said it.

676
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I guess, unless they're holding on to that to get

677
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:55.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's like blackmailing her, right, oh my god, horrendous.

678
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:59.519
<v Speaker 3>So maybe that maybe that's why he's trying to get money. Maybe.

679
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think he did give her money for

680
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:04.720
<v Speaker 2>a facelift. That is obviously she's not even denying that.

681
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:07.359
<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure it was not for free. I'm sure

682
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:09.440
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't like, let me buy you a facelift, but

683
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.240
<v Speaker 2>maybe he did. Who knows it's John Jansen.

684
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:14.960
<v Speaker 1>What if he's trying to get what if he is black?

685
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>But what if he has footage and she knows it

686
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:19.759
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, you need to pay me money or

687
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to release this footage.

688
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:22.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

689
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:24.519
<v Speaker 2>Then I like the way she's handling it, just like

690
00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:27.920
<v Speaker 2>fuck it, come at me. Then let's go. Just let's

691
00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:29.599
<v Speaker 2>deal with it and go and don't pay that guy

692
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:30.119
<v Speaker 2>any money.

693
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:32.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this could be a piece of shit.

694
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:34.799
<v Speaker 2>Like I hate him so much. I'm sorry, I'm cursing

695
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:37.920
<v Speaker 2>so much. I'm really wearing a lot.

696
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:40.599
<v Speaker 1>I really wish you weren't doing that because I just

697
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>feel like this is a not a podcast where we well.

698
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:47.519
<v Speaker 2>It's a family show. It's g rated, it's very family.

699
00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:51.400
<v Speaker 2>So speaking of families and nine kids, can we kind

700
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:53.480
<v Speaker 2>of skip over we'll talk about it. But the Jen

701
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Ryan getting a pedicure thing, Oh maybe me sick a

702
00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:00.640
<v Speaker 2>little bit, care at all? I mean, he's just and

703
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:03.160
<v Speaker 2>then he's always so cool, always so weird, what a

704
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:06.200
<v Speaker 2>weirdo always getting this tote was painted. Nobody cares about you,

705
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:08.960
<v Speaker 2>nobody cares about Jen, No one wants either of them

706
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:09.480
<v Speaker 2>on the show.

707
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:11.519
<v Speaker 3>And then it's just more recaps.

708
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:16.039
<v Speaker 1>Also and here here's here's something that's super judgmental of me,

709
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:19.639
<v Speaker 1>uh because I just felt like really judging through this

710
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:23.480
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. So Jen in this scene is trying to

711
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:26.840
<v Speaker 1>garner sympathy for how she's coddled her kids because out

712
00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:29.599
<v Speaker 1>of guilt, and you know, maybe it was the wrong thing,

713
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:31.760
<v Speaker 1>and you know, maybe her kids are going to be

714
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:33.960
<v Speaker 1>a little like handicapped in the world because she's done

715
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:38.039
<v Speaker 1>everything for them. Here's here's here's a bigger way that

716
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:41.679
<v Speaker 1>you fucked up. You moved your kids in with some

717
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:44.159
<v Speaker 1>guy that you don't even know what he that you

718
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>fully admit you don't even really know what he does

719
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:49.280
<v Speaker 1>for a living, Like there's some shadiest fuck stuff about

720
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:51.800
<v Speaker 1>this guy, but you felt that you were too broke,

721
00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:55.480
<v Speaker 1>so you yet again depended on another guy and moved

722
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:57.880
<v Speaker 1>your kids into a situation to live with a guy

723
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:01.639
<v Speaker 1>that they don't know. That's way worse than like, oh,

724
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:06.559
<v Speaker 1>I do too much stuff for my kids, right, Yes, agreed, agreed.

725
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:09.679
<v Speaker 1>I just love my kids too much. I just like

726
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:11.719
<v Speaker 1>I do everything for them, and like I could be

727
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:15.159
<v Speaker 1>doing them a disservice. No, moving in with another fucking

728
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>strange guy is a bigger dist.

729
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:19.840
<v Speaker 3>Like how do you not? I'm just like, do you

730
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:21.920
<v Speaker 3>do you eat here yourself? Well?

731
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:24.800
<v Speaker 2>And they're making like kids part of production where it's like,

732
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:27.519
<v Speaker 2>obviously that was planned that the kid his her son

733
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:29.559
<v Speaker 2>calls and is like, I don't have enough TP to

734
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:32.159
<v Speaker 2>tpee this house. And she's like, oh okay, wait, you

735
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:35.559
<v Speaker 2>can't tpee during the day, Like she's just permissive mom,

736
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:38.920
<v Speaker 2>like bat mom. But now this kid has to act.

737
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:41.079
<v Speaker 2>He's literally it's like on House Hunters when they have

738
00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:43.519
<v Speaker 2>to pretend that they haven't already bought one of those houses, right,

739
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:45.960
<v Speaker 2>they have to like, hmmm, the closets are a little

740
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:49.800
<v Speaker 2>small where you're gonna put your shoes hunting right every

741
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:52.920
<v Speaker 2>single freaking time, and they're just they're bad actors, right.

742
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:55.760
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I get really mad about House Hunters.

743
00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:57.960
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, yes, it was a whole scene so

744
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:01.719
<v Speaker 1>that she could be like so that Rye in Oh

745
00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:04.400
<v Speaker 1>my god, mind your own fucking business, is like you

746
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:06.800
<v Speaker 1>do too much for those kids. You don't have to

747
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>say us to everything. You you're allowed to just like

748
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:10.800
<v Speaker 1>say no to stuff. She should have said no to

749
00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:13.719
<v Speaker 1>moving in with your stupid ass. Yeah, and nothing worse,

750
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:15.719
<v Speaker 1>like these kids are being bounced around. They already have

751
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:18.639
<v Speaker 1>other issues with their dad and all that. Nothing worse

752
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:20.639
<v Speaker 1>than some creepy step dad. Community's like, you don't have

753
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:22.440
<v Speaker 1>to buy him a car, You don't have to make

754
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:24.440
<v Speaker 1>them dinner. Look to make their own dinner. He's five

755
00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:25.559
<v Speaker 1>years old. You can make his dinner.

756
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:29.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know. Doctor Phil has whole episodes about that

757
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.920
<v Speaker 3>are used to. Yeah, now you're not your business. That

758
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:36.480
<v Speaker 3>is their relationship. That's like again yeah and then but

759
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:39.320
<v Speaker 3>the fact is she even says that she's even like.

760
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:41.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't even really know what he does for

761
00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:44.719
<v Speaker 1>a living, right, Okay, but yet you felt good about

762
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:45.800
<v Speaker 1>moving your kids in there.

763
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:46.599
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

764
00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Is that stuff makes me irritating. I don't like them either. Okay,

765
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:52.639
<v Speaker 2>So now's the big scene. So Tamra's gonna meet with Shannon.

766
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:54.480
<v Speaker 2>But first, of course, they have to have their two

767
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:57.360
<v Speaker 2>phone calls to their friends to set this up. So

768
00:36:57.559 --> 00:37:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Tamra calls Alexis, who's doing it in the middle of

769
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:04.760
<v Speaker 2>doing a confessional in this moment.

770
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:09.320
<v Speaker 3>No Jen camera calls Jena, Oh that was Jen? Are

771
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:12.840
<v Speaker 3>you I swear to you it wasn't Alexis. It was Jen.

772
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:15.559
<v Speaker 2>The amount of makeup they have on, I cannot tell

773
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:17.719
<v Speaker 2>the difference. You can't tell the difference, but it was Jen.

774
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:19.719
<v Speaker 2>She's like, what are you doing? And she goes, oh,

775
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.679
<v Speaker 2>just sitting in my living room? Are you sitting in?

776
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:24.719
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent? Sure that wasn't Alexis?

777
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:28.159
<v Speaker 3>Was Jen? Okay? Wow, that's crazy? All right?

778
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:31.480
<v Speaker 2>So she calls her for no reason. Tamra's all riled up. Well,

779
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Heather and Shannon have a little talk and Heather has

780
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:35.920
<v Speaker 2>nothing else to say except like, well you look good.

781
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Good luck money mm hmm. So they meet at this

782
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:43.639
<v Speaker 2>restaurant and at first I thought Tamara was drinking. I

783
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:45.159
<v Speaker 2>thought she had a glass of wine and I was like,

784
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:46.960
<v Speaker 2>you are not going to order a glass of wine

785
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:50.440
<v Speaker 2>for this conversation. She's like, I'm gonna need a drink

786
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:53.239
<v Speaker 2>for this, all right, I'm gonna need a lot to drink. Tekyla,

787
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:56.159
<v Speaker 2>not for you, bitch. But I think it was just water.

788
00:37:56.239 --> 00:37:58.960
<v Speaker 2>So Shannon gets water, which we're all focusing on.

789
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Shannon is like so mad, and again like she has

790
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:08.800
<v Speaker 1>a reason to be mad because Tama's horrible, but also

791
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:14.199
<v Speaker 1>she's just it's just so like, Okay, everybody's coming for me.

792
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I you know, it's just so hard for me. Everybody's

793
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:21.760
<v Speaker 1>so mean to me. But I know everybody, no one's

794
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:22.800
<v Speaker 1>going to agree with me on this.

795
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:26.159
<v Speaker 2>So well, now I think people will don't be you know, listen,

796
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:28.800
<v Speaker 2>I think you're right. I think it's just Tama is

797
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:33.679
<v Speaker 2>not the messenger, no terrible messenger. It starts right away, immediately,

798
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:36.800
<v Speaker 2>right away, they're like such a bady. Yeah, because she's

799
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:38.840
<v Speaker 2>like immediately de Channon, like I was thinking you would

800
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:41.199
<v Speaker 2>reach out to me? What and she I was one

801
00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:42.800
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent of Chanon said and I was like, oh

802
00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:44.559
<v Speaker 2>my god, you've just been yelling at me in public

803
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:47.000
<v Speaker 2>non stop. I'm not going to reach out to you.

804
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:48.679
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want anything to do with you. I'm trying

805
00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:50.400
<v Speaker 2>to like survive.

806
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:53.519
<v Speaker 1>Right, Shannon's like, you've been doing nothing but defaming me,

807
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:54.559
<v Speaker 1>and Tammar goes.

808
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:57.039
<v Speaker 3>Defaming you, defaming you.

809
00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:59.280
<v Speaker 2>At that point I would have walked out, yeah, and

810
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:05.920
<v Speaker 2>which she kind of did and at this point too. Yeah, yeah,

811
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:09.599
<v Speaker 2>Shannon goes, you called me an alcoholic, and then.

812
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:15.599
<v Speaker 1>Tamar's like, but you still dank again, same thing, and

813
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:16.199
<v Speaker 1>then yeah.

814
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:16.960
<v Speaker 3>Such a sad mumble.

815
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:18.840
<v Speaker 2>She is like, I have two at most, but you know,

816
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:23.519
<v Speaker 2>probably not, I mean for sure, not right it is.

817
00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:26.880
<v Speaker 1>But again, as everyone keeps pointing out, and I agree,

818
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:31.239
<v Speaker 1>none of our business. It's none of anybody's business what

819
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:34.960
<v Speaker 1>she drinks, if she's not crashing her car or whatever.

820
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:38.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know it's it's not for Tamra. You

821
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:40.280
<v Speaker 1>know what, are you going to get a camera and

822
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:42.480
<v Speaker 1>put it in Shannon's house and like call her out

823
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:48.119
<v Speaker 1>on it. What Tamra's responding to, though, is the fact

824
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:52.920
<v Speaker 1>that Shannon is lying about it and then telling everybody

825
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:55.920
<v Speaker 1>like in this innocent like what, no, I really don't drink.

826
00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:57.679
<v Speaker 1>I really don't have a problem. I have two drinks

827
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:01.800
<v Speaker 1>if it becomes a problem. And tam like you, feels

828
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:05.079
<v Speaker 1>a little gas lit by this because she's had a

829
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:09.079
<v Speaker 1>couple of times and she says it where she's witnessed

830
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Shannon sneaking, remember at their live show.

831
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<v Speaker 3>It's the reason she doesn't want to do the live

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<v Speaker 3>show with her anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny to me because they all drink a lot.

834
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<v Speaker 2>They all drink, and then Shannon was the one who

835
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<v Speaker 2>got the duo. You know, Shannon got Maybe it's a

836
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<v Speaker 2>little worse, but they all do it, so it's like, Okay,

837
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<v Speaker 2>you did it the worst. Now I don't have to

838
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<v Speaker 2>focus on my own issues because you've got your issues.

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<v Speaker 1>True, I agree, I agree, But I'm just saying what

840
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<v Speaker 1>Tamra thinks she's responding to is how Shannon keeps going,

841
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<v Speaker 1>I'm totally fine, I'm totally fine, But then why are

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<v Speaker 1>you sneaking over to a bartender and asking it and

843
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:45.800
<v Speaker 1>then saying what, I only have two drinks?

844
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<v Speaker 3>Right?

845
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:50.360
<v Speaker 1>But maybe Shannon feels like she wants to still drink.

846
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<v Speaker 1>She needs to still drink whatever drinking problem, none of

847
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:56.440
<v Speaker 1>my business. But maybe she feels like now she can't

848
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<v Speaker 1>because everybody's watching her. So that's why she's being sneaky. Right,

849
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Either way, it's not really Tamar's business.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So Shannon takes a break, comes back for Tamar

851
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:10.360
<v Speaker 2>again to just kind of be a cuse. But then

852
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:13.480
<v Speaker 2>it all comes up we talked about before the Alexis

853
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:15.280
<v Speaker 2>John conversation comes up.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, because that's what Shannon's go to. She's now

855
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:21.880
<v Speaker 1>she's done this to this whole episode. This is why

856
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:25.119
<v Speaker 1>I had this macro note at the beginning. Whatever anybody

857
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:30.079
<v Speaker 1>brings up to Shannon, She's like, but John Jadson' suing.

858
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:31.960
<v Speaker 3>Me and I didn't even do anything. I was the

859
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:34.960
<v Speaker 3>nicest girlfriend in the whole world. They paid for everything,

860
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:36.400
<v Speaker 3>and now he's suing.

861
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Me, right, And the weird thing here is that Tamar's like, wait,

862
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:42.159
<v Speaker 2>he is, as though Tamar didn't already know that that

863
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:44.920
<v Speaker 2>was already weird too, That's been discussed a million times.

864
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:47.719
<v Speaker 2>She knows, so she's like, wait, he's suing you, And

865
00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:49.719
<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden she flips because, like I said,

866
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<v Speaker 2>ding ding ding, Oh yeah, that's right, Like he's terrible,

867
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Alexis is terrible, Jim is terrible. They didn't even Tamer's like,

868
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<v Speaker 2>we didn't even know if we were going to be

869
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:01.320
<v Speaker 2>like wiped clean of all our money. At certain points,

870
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:03.920
<v Speaker 2>it was very stressful to be sued by these fucking

871
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:06.000
<v Speaker 2>nightmare of people. And so now all of a sudden

872
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:09.559
<v Speaker 2>she's like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, and hugs are which

873
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:12.519
<v Speaker 2>now Shannon's been so beaten down by this woman that

874
00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:15.440
<v Speaker 2>a hug from her is like, oh, thank God, I

875
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:16.440
<v Speaker 2>love you.

876
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:19.280
<v Speaker 3>No, you should never love Tamra. She's a terrible person.

877
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:20.400
<v Speaker 2>But do you know what I mean? It was like

878
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:23.039
<v Speaker 2>the thing, the bullying thing that like a Trump would do.

879
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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I felt I felt like I didn't even

880
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<v Speaker 1>know if Tama actually had empathy because Tamar had gone

881
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>through it. I felt like Tama took stock of the

882
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:37.199
<v Speaker 1>situation really quickly and was like, hmm, am I going

883
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:39.719
<v Speaker 1>to keep going hard at her. She's sitting here crying,

884
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:42.159
<v Speaker 1>like how's this going to look for me? I better

885
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:43.719
<v Speaker 1>turn a little bit chat it around so.

886
00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Fast, there might been a little I think it was

887
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:48.159
<v Speaker 2>just a memory of like, oh yeah, that does suck.

888
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh gosh, I'm sorry, And then like hey, I'm having

889
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:53.199
<v Speaker 2>a party, will you come to my party? And Shannon's

890
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:58.519
<v Speaker 2>like really, I'm just watching this like most emotionally abusive situation.

891
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:02.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if if I were Shannon, I would just

892
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<v Speaker 2>say no, thanks. But you don't want someone like camera

893
00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:08.559
<v Speaker 2>on your other side of you, right, so you can't.

894
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:11.440
<v Speaker 2>And then she's been so beaten down like you can't

895
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<v Speaker 2>be like.

896
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:13.960
<v Speaker 1>No, you've been such a bitch. Of course I don't

897
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:16.159
<v Speaker 1>want to go to your party. Then Tamra's good.

898
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:16.760
<v Speaker 3>She can't.

899
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:22.880
<v Speaker 1>She's just trying to like protect her peace a little bit. Yes, yes, Oh,

900
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:26.639
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing made me want to take a shower,

901
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:27.400
<v Speaker 1>I know.

902
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:29.800
<v Speaker 3>Like a silkwood shower.

903
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:31.679
<v Speaker 2>Do you have the chemicals at your house?

904
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<v Speaker 3>If you.

905
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<v Speaker 2>You have, I mean, I can bring them over if

906
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:39.519
<v Speaker 2>you want. We could shower together. I don't mean that

907
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:42.400
<v Speaker 2>like that. I hope you're not reading me like I'm not.

908
00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:44.320
<v Speaker 2>I know, I said I was in love with Genas sexually,

909
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:46.840
<v Speaker 2>and I am. I've never been with a woman, and

910
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:49.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm not Stephanie. I don't want to shower with.

911
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:50.760
<v Speaker 3>You've never been with a woman.

912
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I never have.

913
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:55.760
<v Speaker 3>Actually, I mean I've been with them for lunch and stuff.

914
00:43:56.480 --> 00:44:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, that's what I meant. I was like, that's

915
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:02.920
<v Speaker 1>so weird, Like I feel like I've always known you

916
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:05.239
<v Speaker 1>to have like at least a few women friends.

917
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<v Speaker 2>I've never been around. I'm not allowed in my religion

918
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:11.119
<v Speaker 2>to be around females right right. I don't know why,

919
00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:13.559
<v Speaker 2>but but I will shower with you because I have

920
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:14.840
<v Speaker 2>the chemicals and I think we should do at the

921
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:15.239
<v Speaker 2>same time.

922
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<v Speaker 3>We need to.

923
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:18.679
<v Speaker 2>Scrub it down, scrub it down each other. I just

924
00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:21.639
<v Speaker 2>give me all right this show, it was not our

925
00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:24.280
<v Speaker 2>favorite episode. We do realize we're behind, so we will

926
00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:27.239
<v Speaker 2>be caught up this week, as we always are. We

927
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<v Speaker 2>will give you know, this week's hopefully some shit goes down.

928
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and also we'll post this today and then we'll

929
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:39.320
<v Speaker 1>have The Bachelor. You guys, go go listen to our

930
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Bachelor recap from last night. And also what we're gonna.

931
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, such a market have Bachelor Part two and ninety days,

932
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:51.079
<v Speaker 2>so stay with us. We've got lots coming at you.

933
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:53.760
<v Speaker 2>So today you're listening to this now you know what's happening.

934
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Also The Bachelor, And let me just throw this in

935
00:44:57.320 --> 00:44:59.800
<v Speaker 2>there if you're not on Patreon Rose Picks, that's where

936
00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:02.239
<v Speaker 2>we're doing Golden Bachelor, which is going to be off

937
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:04.519
<v Speaker 2>the rails this year, and we've already started.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just tell you that I every time I

939
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:08.760
<v Speaker 1>see a commercial for it, when I'm watching The Bachelor,

940
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I get like full body excitement.

941
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean actually cried. I cried one of the like

942
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:21.480
<v Speaker 2>for the trailer. Very into it. Mark me too, love him,

943
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:26.239
<v Speaker 2>He's so cute, he seems great, there's a lot of

944
00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:30.440
<v Speaker 2>real cuties. I'm into it. I'm actually very envious. I

945
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:31.960
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be the Golden Bachelorette.

946
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Not yet.

947
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:35.320
<v Speaker 2>It's too soon, but you mark my words, I'll be that.

948
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to make it to that. Give it six months,

949
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:42.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, no, you give it six months. I still

950
00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:45.760
<v Speaker 2>have like a decade, but you could do it. Listen,

951
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll marry John. Okay, my voice is so cracky right now.

952
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry you guys. Should we just start this whole

953
00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:54.280
<v Speaker 2>oc one over? Start over, start over?

954
00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:56.559
<v Speaker 3>Okay, just kidding you. Guys. We love you. We'll see

955
00:45:56.559 --> 00:46:00.559
<v Speaker 3>you tomorrow or later today for the Bachelor. Thank you, guys. Bye,