Speaker 1: What's up everybody? It is time for rose Pricks. It's
Speaker 1: me Stephanie. I'm here with Cecily. We're fired up. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you why, no reason. No, we're fired up
Speaker 1: because we have a real Housewives of the OC ready
Speaker 1: to go, ready to record that we didn't get to
Speaker 1: last week. And we feel really proud of ourselves that
Speaker 1: we didn't just say. We're not the kind of people
Speaker 1: that just go, you know what, we didn't get to
Speaker 1: it last week, so we're just not going to do it.
Speaker 3: No, that's not who we are.
Speaker 2: Who are we It's not who we are are people
Speaker 2: that take the OC very seriously. We know you take
Speaker 2: it seriously. That's why you're here. So we're just up
Speaker 2: a little from last week. I was in Texas Peak
Speaker 2: behind a curtain, so we just got a little behind.
Speaker 2: But here we are to start right away. We didn't
Speaker 2: want you to miss a moment of Shannon cooking. It's
Speaker 2: very important that we just start away right away with
Speaker 2: Shannon frantically maniacally cooking, with a kind of a split
Speaker 2: screen almost of Alex Sexy Lexi also maniacally cooking, because
Speaker 2: they're really the same, y'all, Their love of John Jansen.
Speaker 3: Isn't the only thing they have in common?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: They want us to know? Can I can I make
Speaker 3: a macro note? Please? All right?
Speaker 1: Here here's the problem that I'm having. I do read
Speaker 1: the reddit about the OC, I read you know what's
Speaker 1: in the news. I guess, and I feel that my
Speaker 1: opinion about this whole thing is so different than everyone else's.
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm upset with myself for am I just
Speaker 1: is this? Do I just have a bad read? Do
Speaker 1: I have you know, a bad tape? Do I not
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3: Is there? Am I just judgment I don't know. I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I am judgmental, but I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is. But I'm trying really hard to see
Speaker 1: things from Shannon's point of view. I'm really trying hard
Speaker 1: to drum up some a lot of sympathy for her,
Speaker 1: and it's just hard. And it's I think for me,
Speaker 1: it's because she's always been this. This isn't like I
Speaker 1: don't know, they're all acting like this is brand new
Speaker 1: behavior and this just has to do with John Jansen.
Speaker 3: So awful. Okay, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's two things happening here with Hanna,
Speaker 2: and I think you're you're kind of seeing like this
Speaker 2: pattern and it's frustrating. But I think what people are
Speaker 2: responding to is the the ruthlessness with which especially Tamra
Speaker 2: really only Tamra, it's gone beyond I mean, it's abusive. Now,
Speaker 2: it's like yelling at someone who is sick. I you know,
Speaker 2: like it's it's one thing to say, you know, have
Speaker 2: a little bit of tough love, but she's doing it
Speaker 2: in a way way. First of all, Tamara is a couz.
Speaker 2: She's a horrendous human being. Oh Shannon is not really
Speaker 2: a cause she's just annoying as fuck and can be,
Speaker 2: you know, not great, but she wouldn't necessarily take you
Speaker 2: out your lowest moment or take your I mean she
Speaker 2: doesn't come back at Tamara, which she could and say
Speaker 2: like your own fucking daughter won't talk to you, like
Speaker 2: fuck off, Like that's what someone should say back to Tamara,
Speaker 2: like as though she's suck and Tamra's wasted half the time,
Speaker 2: So she is deflecting I think half of her shit
Speaker 2: onto Shannon, who is also awful. So I think that's
Speaker 2: where you're getting confused, because people are protecting Shannon because like, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's too much. Now you're yelling at someone who's like sick.
Speaker 1: I guess though, that I don't know that I that
Speaker 1: Shannon is sick. In my estimation, I think that Shannon
Speaker 1: is very entitled. Yeah, here's the thing I don't. I
Speaker 1: can't stand Tamra. So this isn't a matter of like
Speaker 1: I'm on Tamra's side. I'm not on Tamor's side. I
Speaker 1: think Tamra's her I don't at all enjoy her coming
Speaker 1: for people. I think it's all uh manipulative and plotted
Speaker 1: and for a storyline. And she's mad that she was
Speaker 1: ever off the show before, and she's like, I'll show them.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be the you know, inserting herself into everything.
Speaker 1: And I think she's terrible, right, I could also at
Speaker 1: the same time, I mean, Shannon was horrible to Gina
Speaker 1: when Gina got her DUI.
Speaker 3: Shannon is not nice. Shannon is not nice. She's judgmental.
Speaker 1: I mean, remember all her things about how she was
Speaker 1: just like I start charities like she she just is
Speaker 1: so I'm better than everybody. And now that she's like,
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck if she quits drinking or not,
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with that. It's none of
Speaker 1: my business. If she wants to drink, that's fine. I
Speaker 1: don't think the Tamar should be has It's none of
Speaker 1: Tamer's business what Shannon's doing with her sobriety. It's more
Speaker 1: just like the you know, it's more irritating all of
Speaker 1: her talk about I.
Speaker 3: Shouldn't have to pay one dollar to John Jansen, he's
Speaker 3: a monster.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, let's hope that comes out in discovery, because
Speaker 1: I don't think that because you paid for a bunch
Speaker 1: of dates means that he owes you seventy five thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: And every time they show those scenes, I'm like, there
Speaker 1: is something missing here and she has to be a
Speaker 1: massive victim totally. What I mean, it doesn't matter that
Speaker 1: you paid for everything. That doesn't mean he owes you
Speaker 1: all the money that you paid, and if so, you
Speaker 1: better show all the receipts and they better equal seventy
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Right, Yeah, you're so mad that he's ruining
Speaker 1: your reputation. You're trying to ruin his ru You're trying
Speaker 1: to ruin somebody who's not even famous and didn't put
Speaker 1: themselves on a show. Now, that doesn't mean I don't
Speaker 1: think he's a thirsty motherfucker who's horrible, that he's Brooks.
Speaker 2: He's Brooksy. I mean, he didn't fake cancer, but he's
Speaker 2: not far. He's bad dude. So, like, everybody's back again.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, there's no heroes, but but one of the
Speaker 1: heroes is not Shannon. And that's where I agreed. Feel
Speaker 1: like I'm being gas lipped by the world. Who's like
Speaker 1: poor Shannon. It's like, so poor Shannon for the last
Speaker 1: ten years.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, because this whole thing was just one big
Speaker 2: Truman show just to see if we could get you
Speaker 2: to like Shannon when obviously she's terrible.
Speaker 3: The whole thing's been orchestrated for years and years. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they do, though you're the only one who's saying, thank
Speaker 3: you for being sane. You're welcome. Okay, we can get it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm done. Okay. Group A.
Speaker 2: So they're back there in their groups. We have the
Speaker 2: A team and the B team. The A team is
Speaker 2: obviously Heather and Gina. You know, I am so the
Speaker 2: more I spend time with Gina, and I know you're
Speaker 2: going to disagree with me on this the more I
Speaker 2: love her, I love I love her.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, but I just love her.
Speaker 1: That's actually it's so amanzy because the more I spend
Speaker 1: time with Gina, the less I like her.
Speaker 3: But then I but.
Speaker 1: Then I'm I'm reminded of why I stopped watching this
Speaker 1: show for a while. I'm like, yeah, it's I don't.
Speaker 1: I do enjoy it because I enjoy getting riled up
Speaker 1: and having opinions about these things.
Speaker 3: But I also I don't enjoy these people. I just don't.
Speaker 3: I just don't think any of them deserve to be
Speaker 3: on TV. I want to just live with Gina for
Speaker 3: a while. Is that weird? Do you think that's odd?
Speaker 3: I'm dating?
Speaker 2: If my texted her, if I am d MdeR just said,
Speaker 2: do you want to live together for a while?
Speaker 3: I don't know why. Treavis is mad at me, and
Speaker 3: she's mad at me, and you're mad at me, and.
Speaker 2: Everybody's just mad at me, And now I don't want
Speaker 2: to play pickleball. John jans is mad at me. You're
Speaker 2: like Gina. John Janssen doesn't even know you.
Speaker 3: He's not mad.
Speaker 2: He's suing me for seventy five thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: No, he's nice. What are you talking about? Oh? I
Speaker 3: thought he was. I'm sorry I made a big deal,
Speaker 3: but he was. Okay.
Speaker 2: So I'm from New York. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: know that, but I'm from Long Islands.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know from law suits. I'm just so,
Speaker 3: I just started doing real estate. What do I know?
Speaker 3: I love her.
Speaker 2: But so they're having this conversation about John Jansen. You
Speaker 2: can tell Heather does not believe Shannon. I will give
Speaker 2: you that. She has this like this isn't making sense
Speaker 2: kind of Look, Shannon's totally full of shit, that's true.
Speaker 2: And then she gives the example of why she doesn't
Speaker 2: owe John Jansen money because she paid for a ten
Speaker 2: thousand dollars hotel excursion for his daughter's birthday or something,
Speaker 2: which is probably true. I mean, that might be true,
Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean that she didn't take a loan
Speaker 2: for seventy five thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That's exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Is her whole thing is like, this is horrible and
Speaker 1: it's absolutely not true. And then she says, oh, so
Speaker 1: he was just paying you back for all the things
Speaker 1: you paid for and she goes, well, that's what I
Speaker 1: was led to believe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were led to believe. Mind in your delusion,
Speaker 3: you decided that show me the proof.
Speaker 1: Where are your receipts? Where's Where's one text message where
Speaker 1: he was like, you know what, I feel really bad
Speaker 1: that you paid for everything for so long. I'm going
Speaker 1: to pay you this amount of money, right.
Speaker 2: And only by the way, she kind of I didn't
Speaker 2: this let I liked her. She's what I like about Emily.
Speaker 2: She's smart, she's smart. She is kind of the voice
Speaker 2: of reason. She can be annoying to me, but I
Speaker 2: like that. She's like, why don't you just send him
Speaker 2: and I'll have your lawyers send an offer of thirty thousand,
Speaker 2: you know, before you go to court, like you.
Speaker 3: Shouldn't have to.
Speaker 2: I am not paid, right, You didn't feel bad.
Speaker 3: Bad, but they all felt bad. I know, so nobody
Speaker 3: can I feel bad? I feel bad?
Speaker 2: No one cares, You're right, sheh Hannah never asked fucking
Speaker 2: Gina about like, how are you doing now that you're
Speaker 2: along with your love moved out?
Speaker 3: No? Are you with the kids. She doesn't care about
Speaker 3: anybody else but herself, and what and she's I just
Speaker 3: don't like that intense victim.
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree. I agree that they're all terrible
Speaker 2: to except Gina and maybe Heather, who I would also
Speaker 2: spend time with.
Speaker 3: And I understand.
Speaker 1: Listen, I do under I understand why they're not all
Speaker 1: calling her on the carpet because they're nice people. They're
Speaker 1: not all of them, but you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: they're like, Okay, we get it. It's not a good
Speaker 1: look for us to be just constantly haranguing her. It's
Speaker 1: not helping her. And they all get that. And Tama
Speaker 1: doesn't understand that, Like, oh, Tamra understands she's just a cunt.
Speaker 1: I mean, she really is a bad well just Tamra's
Speaker 1: only interested in like proving a point and thinking that
Speaker 1: the audience is going to be on her side.
Speaker 3: And I think she's going to be.
Speaker 1: Very surprised to find out that everybody hates her now.
Speaker 3: What they always did.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at like whispering and read
Speaker 2: at some of the stuff, everyone's like, why did we
Speaker 2: bring her back? They should put her because there's a
Speaker 2: reminder she was put on pause. They got her, she
Speaker 2: snuck herself back in. How does she not see that.
Speaker 2: But I love in the previews for next week when
Speaker 2: they were doing some weird ass thing and they were like,
Speaker 2: all right, oh Sears, you know Real Housewives and Vicky
Speaker 2: Vicky got so much. Yeah, so Sitch love love that moment.
Speaker 2: That's not even this episode, but we'll get there, right.
Speaker 2: So it goes to the B team, which is in
Speaker 2: Big Bear, and they're just such a nightmare group of
Speaker 2: people and they're so wasted, Tamra especially, but they're all
Speaker 2: just have so much judgment. They're all just like they're
Speaker 2: the word. They're the reason you stopped watching OC. That's
Speaker 2: the group.
Speaker 3: That kind of mentality of like where are.
Speaker 2: The OC blondes were so wasted, so like they're fucked up.
Speaker 2: They would have been a nightmare in our twenties. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and then we found out did we remember Jen has
Speaker 2: nine kids? They're having some conversation. It comes out like
Speaker 2: Jen's feeling bad about her ex husband Will.
Speaker 3: Yeah. This is another one where I do not and
Speaker 3: people a lot of people do.
Speaker 1: And this is where I feel crazy. I I have
Speaker 1: zero sympathy for Jen. You too, don't get it. I
Speaker 1: don't her whole I don't like her demeanor where She's.
Speaker 3: Just like, I'm just a girl. I just love blonde
Speaker 3: hair and I wear a broken rolex And.
Speaker 2: Why is everybody I don't understand me? You do want
Speaker 2: do I should do the only fans?
Speaker 3: You want me to do the only fans. It always
Speaker 3: becomes you.
Speaker 2: Said out that you really think I should for my freezies.
Speaker 2: You want me to put my toesies on the only friends.
Speaker 3: I feel awkward. I don't know if I like it.
Speaker 2: I got down to why.
Speaker 3: And he's going to be mad, which is not really mad?
Speaker 2: And isn't it funny? Did you notice that it was
Speaker 2: Tamra that had She's like, oh, I'm blocked, I can't
Speaker 2: see my ex'es stuff. And Tamer's like, well I can't
Speaker 2: here to show like she.
Speaker 3: It's like she she's terrible.
Speaker 2: She loves her friends, her quote unquote friends to suffer.
Speaker 2: She loves watching them suffer. Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's terrible. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's go look, let's look, let's go the flashback of
Speaker 2: Alexis making it totally about her. Flashback to her praying
Speaker 2: for Tamar, when Tamar's crying about her daughter, She's like, oh,
Speaker 2: may the Lord bless you. They're like doing like they're
Speaker 2: speaking in tongues. They're just drunk. That's just drunk tongues.
Speaker 3: Drunk tongues. I love your drunk tongues. The Lord made Jesus.
Speaker 3: And then I mean, I'm like, I'm surprised they didn't
Speaker 3: dunk her in something. Oh they have Remember when Tamara
Speaker 3: got baptized?
Speaker 1: Yes, oh yeah, these people are the fakest religious people ever.
Speaker 2: Oh, Alexis is the worst of them. But then it
Speaker 2: goes back and forth. So now we're on the pickleball
Speaker 2: court with Emily and Gina, we already yeah, well, I
Speaker 2: mean I just oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, okay,
Speaker 2: because they go back and forth. So I kind of
Speaker 2: skipped Shannon stupid eyelash situation, and I don't care.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: It felt it felt very junior high. At first, I
Speaker 2: was like, what is this like? It felt like Emily
Speaker 2: couldn't Emily was saying Gene couldn't be friends with someone
Speaker 2: because she wasn't good enough friends with her.
Speaker 3: Did you get that vibe? Remember in junior high? Would
Speaker 3: you'd be.
Speaker 2: Like you said you hated Elaine and now you like Elaine? Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: it's a very much interesting thing. Also, they start though
Speaker 2: where Gina has to see. This is one of the
Speaker 2: reasons I don't really like Gina. Gina can be really
Speaker 2: bitchy and in her in her confessional, she's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I guess all the hours that Emily spent
Speaker 2: at the gym didn't translate into athleticism.
Speaker 3: I didn't mind that. I think that's cute. I think
Speaker 3: that's cute.
Speaker 2: I think she would say I think she would say
Speaker 2: that to Emily. I think they rib each other. I
Speaker 2: don't think Emily thinks that she's athletic. She doesn't like
Speaker 2: to play tennis and stuff. So I don't think she
Speaker 2: wasn't saying she was like heavy or something. She was
Speaker 2: just saying like she's not good at ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I thought it was. I was like, Gina,
Speaker 1: you're not either. Both of you guys look terrible out there,
Speaker 1: Like I don't there is it really cause for slamming?
Speaker 3: Well, she's at this point too though. Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't pick up. I hear you.
Speaker 2: I didn't feel that. But just because Gina is my
Speaker 2: heart and I am her.
Speaker 3: Heart, right, that's what it. Yeah, Now I get that,
Speaker 3: and I also liked it.
Speaker 2: So they're yelling at each other, and I like that
Speaker 2: Gina kind of started fighting back.
Speaker 3: She didn't used to fight back.
Speaker 2: She's a pleaser, and I like that she yelled back
Speaker 2: to Emily, like, you know, you're kind of a grand bitch,
Speaker 2: and I don't like it, don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know what this little character is that you're playing.
Speaker 1: But like stop, yeah, but you know it's just funny
Speaker 1: because I and I do not like Emily either. See
Speaker 1: now I'm just having all the bad takes people. People
Speaker 1: are going to be like unfollowed this show. There's no
Speaker 1: bad takes. No one likes any of these people except
Speaker 1: me and Gina. Okay, Well, honestly, I kind of felt
Speaker 1: like I kind of understood where Emily was coming from,
Speaker 1: because Gina does to me, Gina does seem like whoever's
Speaker 1: like in charge, whoever she deems to be like in
Speaker 1: charge and can help her.
Speaker 3: She cowtows too, And I.
Speaker 1: Think Emily was just like what I don't understand, Like
Speaker 1: Katie was your friend, You love, love, love Katie so
Speaker 1: much you brought her onto the show, and the second
Speaker 1: Heather had a problem with her, you were like, oh,
Speaker 1: who's that?
Speaker 3: Who's Katie? Fuck Katie hater? And I did if I'm Emily,
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, that's just weird. Why are you doing that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Emily kind of, you know, became friends with Tamra.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Emily's always on the wrong side. She's
Speaker 2: married to that troll. She makes a lot of bad choices.
Speaker 2: And I didn't like they showed the flashback of her
Speaker 2: yelling at everybody constantly, Oh jes.
Speaker 3: Channel, this is what I'm saying. I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 3: sticking up for her.
Speaker 1: I just I understand her questioning of of Gina's loyalties.
Speaker 1: Gina's loyalties shifts really fascinating. I don't I don't like
Speaker 1: what Gina did with the whole, with that whole situation,
Speaker 1: with trying to get Katie to bring it up, trying
Speaker 1: to get Katie to start a fight, and then being.
Speaker 3: Like what I didn't I told her to minutes.
Speaker 1: Later and I told it, don't bring it up. I said,
Speaker 1: don't bring it up. I think people misheard my words.
Speaker 1: They twisted my words, and they thought I said bring
Speaker 1: it up. I said don't. They just didn't. I buried
Speaker 1: the don't. But I don't trust Katie.
Speaker 2: I don't trust I mean, I just don't trust I
Speaker 2: think I think Gina and Emily are real friends. I
Speaker 2: think this fight was very real, which I liked because
Speaker 2: you don't get a lot of real moments on these shows. True,
Speaker 2: So when she throws her thing and she's pissed and
Speaker 2: then they cry and there's a moment they're hugging and
Speaker 2: crying and they're like, we just And I like the
Speaker 2: way that Emily was like, we just were good. We
Speaker 2: just needed to do that. It built up and we
Speaker 2: needed to do it right. And then, you know whatever,
Speaker 2: I think they're fine. Don't worry Stephanie. Okay, don't worry
Speaker 2: about them. It sounds like you're very worried about Gina,
Speaker 2: are you.
Speaker 3: Well, I am, I'm a little worried about it. I
Speaker 3: just feel like, because of Kiris, what if Tvis breaks
Speaker 3: up with her? What will she do? Then? Okay, so
Speaker 3: then this.
Speaker 2: Is like that's a nightmare in and of itself, and
Speaker 2: then we have to go back to Jen and Tamar
Speaker 2: and these idiots. When I was like why why is
Speaker 2: also there's.
Speaker 3: Somebody why is Katie in that group? Even? Why did
Speaker 3: she choose that group?
Speaker 2: Oh? Because she doesn't like Heather, right, That's what it
Speaker 2: is right right.
Speaker 1: She doesn't like Heather, and she's also here's enough. I
Speaker 1: do not like Katie at all.
Speaker 2: Me neither.
Speaker 3: I don't like her.
Speaker 1: I think she's fake as fuck. She can't play golf
Speaker 1: mm hmm, and her whole thing is about golf. Even
Speaker 1: her tagline is golf and she's admittedly terrible at golf.
Speaker 3: It all feels so fake.
Speaker 2: Also, then it was interesting that Jen pops up to
Speaker 2: tell tam Rat, which I think we should be calling
Speaker 2: her more of Tamar to calm down with the Heather thing.
Speaker 2: Even Jen is like she's been yelled out of this group.
Speaker 2: She's been on the other side of it. She's like,
Speaker 2: maybe you need to have a little grace. Although with yeah,
Speaker 2: with she said it with the Heather with no, with
Speaker 2: the not Heather with Shannon. That was the conversation, right,
Speaker 2: But then Alexis said that they need to stop their
Speaker 2: fake the fake fight with Heather. She didn't call it
Speaker 2: a fake fight, but there was a little They were
Speaker 2: just back and forth telling Tamar to calm down.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Well, first, Kate, they're all talking about each other because
Speaker 1: Katie's like, you know what, like, if Heather apologizes to me,
Speaker 1: that's fine.
Speaker 3: But I am the innocent one here. I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: you're You're not Katie, You're really not. Yeah. And then
Speaker 3: Jen is like, hi, damn that. I'm so happy with
Speaker 3: our friendship, with where we are, and I see what
Speaker 3: you're doing with Shannon. I really get it.
Speaker 1: I love it. And then Tama's like, what what am
Speaker 1: I doing? I'm not attacking her? And then they flash
Speaker 1: They do a flashback of her attacking Shannon, and Jen goes.
Speaker 3: Maybe if you care about her, maybe you call ohe
Speaker 3: her like that hard conversation. It's like, but Jen, she's already.
Speaker 1: Had hard conversations with her. She's a whole horrible bitch
Speaker 1: and yells at her, don't end this on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of course she's You're right, she's egging it
Speaker 2: on because she doesn't want it on her. For a second,
Speaker 2: it's not on her. But I think she's trying to
Speaker 2: say that she should be a little gentler. That was
Speaker 2: the vibe I was getting from Jen.
Speaker 1: Oh see, I thought she was telling her you should
Speaker 1: meet with her and tell her how you feel.
Speaker 2: And it's like, no, you she shouldn't, right, But they're
Speaker 2: gonna do it anyway. It's already scheduled. Of course, it's
Speaker 2: meet for her as in the production on our OC calendar.
Speaker 2: But let's take a look at the production calendar. It
Speaker 2: looks like you're meeting with her on Friday. You should
Speaker 2: go ahead and keep that appointment.
Speaker 3: I mean, so stupid. So then so then John Jansen
Speaker 3: calls Alexis, oh my god, oh my god, and she's
Speaker 3: and yeah, and she's so I'm literally I can't do
Speaker 3: Alexis's place. Guys. I'm literally gonna lose it. I'm losing
Speaker 3: at you, guys.
Speaker 2: And I love that this whole episode too, they've been
Speaker 2: showing Alexis is not coked out, but she seems like it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're all just offering her. I mean, she's
Speaker 2: just horrendous. As they make fun of her, They're just
Speaker 2: like she's a dingbat, Like is this the part have
Speaker 2: they done the thing where maybe maybe I skipped this
Speaker 2: where they asked her to like, do you prefer coffee
Speaker 2: or red Bull in the morning? And she goes off
Speaker 2: on like a tangent.
Speaker 1: First scene that was in the very first scene, and
Speaker 1: then Katie Katie goes, yeah, that's what I love about Alexis,
Speaker 1: Like you don't really even have to be in the conversation.
Speaker 1: You could just like say something and she'll go off
Speaker 1: on a crazy tangent. Did you catch the production did
Speaker 1: like a close up on the coffee or whatever, and
Speaker 1: there was a bunch of pills there. No, I'm sure
Speaker 1: they were like menopause pill. They were probably VIE supplements
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 2: But they didn't close about these pills when she's talking,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, crazy. So yeah, she's very upset, she's
Speaker 2: super fired up. I feel she's fake crying in the scene.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what is she crying about about? She gloves
Speaker 2: are off, gloves are off.
Speaker 3: But you can't know what.
Speaker 1: How does any of this affect her? That's the thing, Like,
Speaker 1: how does her whole thing is? She's so fucking cod
Speaker 1: pendant already with her boyfriend of like a few months
Speaker 1: that anything that he says about Shannon Alexis is like
Speaker 1: work gonna dost dry.
Speaker 2: Which she used to do with Jim, the worst man
Speaker 2: in the world somehow, like even worse than Brooks. He
Speaker 2: was my least favorite guy to ever Tamara show terrible, horrible,
Speaker 2: And I like that that comes up later when Tamara
Speaker 2: finally has an AHA moment, even though it's ridiculous because
Speaker 2: it's with Shannon. It's like all that, well, we'll get
Speaker 2: to that, but all the memories come flooding back. They're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: Alexis was suing us, and yeah that is kind of hard,
Speaker 2: like what the fuck this is your and Tamara and
Speaker 2: Alexis are like their besties in this house, all drunk together,
Speaker 2: holding each other, baptizing each other. Mm hmm. And she
Speaker 2: hated John Jansen. Everyone hated John Jansen, but now they
Speaker 2: like now and now Tama's like, you know, I like,
Speaker 2: you've never been mean to me, You've always been nice.
Speaker 3: To Tamra's not smart, like, she's not strategic. She's just
Speaker 3: throwing shit against the wall and it's none of it's
Speaker 3: gonna stick, and it's gonna look bad for her and
Speaker 3: just her. She's so there's so much meanness that's just
Speaker 3: like in her face.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, could you imagine ding her daughter? Like no,
Speaker 1: wonder her kids don't speak to her.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's probably some video that we don't know about.
Speaker 2: So the video comes up, but they can't say I can't.
Speaker 2: I'll let John Jansen speak for it. But it's gonna
Speaker 2: ruin Shannon's life and We're like, what is it, Well,
Speaker 2: we're gonna find episodes. Yeah, we do find out from
Speaker 2: Katie later. So then all the dumb recaps they all
Speaker 2: come back, and the dumb recaps with the dogs.
Speaker 1: But that also remember, uh because I just was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I I rolled so hard. Alexis is
Speaker 1: so upset that she lays on in the bed crying, go.
Speaker 3: Like she's a month. Sure, Oh my god, what did
Speaker 3: she do to you?
Speaker 1: You're with her boyfriend? Right, it's not if you stole
Speaker 1: the boyfriend. You're with him. He's suing her. How how
Speaker 1: is Shennon a month? Mm hm.
Speaker 2: So then so that she's like me okay. So then
Speaker 2: it's like we're done. We're done with these little scenes.
Speaker 2: So they have their dumb like recaps with dogs to
Speaker 2: show that men are stupid and only the ladies know
Speaker 2: how to take care of the dogs, which actually is
Speaker 2: kind of true right in some ways. Uh So, then
Speaker 2: Tamra goes over to Gina's house, where we find out
Speaker 2: that all the kids are sleeping in one bedroom.
Speaker 3: I feel like Gina has some management issues. Does I'm
Speaker 3: doing some construction.
Speaker 2: And they're writing on the walls because they know we're
Speaker 2: gonna paint and Tarma even here, Tamra's aelesto. She's like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: so where are they sleeping? All in my bedroom? So
Speaker 2: min I'm on the couch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't think about how much toyme it might take.
Speaker 3: And also Travis doesn't live here, so he can't help me.
Speaker 3: It's a lot, although he might break up with me.
Speaker 3: And I'm really skewed about that.
Speaker 2: Skew it, like, I'm like she was, well, we I
Speaker 2: lived in a casita.
Speaker 3: Kept yelling that to Shannon.
Speaker 2: I mean, I understood her point that you downsize when
Speaker 2: you have to, but like, okay, maybe you're not.
Speaker 3: Maybe you're going too far. So I moved all of
Speaker 3: my three kids into.
Speaker 2: A studio apartment and we just eat soup off the floor.
Speaker 2: We don't even have bulls because we don't leave the bull.
Speaker 2: Travis took our bulls. And it's okay.
Speaker 3: I couldn't buy those.
Speaker 1: Spoons, but I'm not going to because I'm not because
Speaker 1: like I don't.
Speaker 3: It's like buying a Rolex. I don't need spoons. It's
Speaker 3: a luxury them.
Speaker 2: Because I drank one time and then I got in trouble,
Speaker 2: so I don't use spoons. Okay, Gina, I do still
Speaker 2: love you if you're listening, and I know she does
Speaker 2: listen to the show.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Now they go to a candy store. Uh yeah, they
Speaker 2: go to em and Katie. Yeah, and they're recapping again,
Speaker 2: recapping everything that we've already just seen and like last
Speaker 2: episodes and just just.
Speaker 1: Gossiping about each other to the point that like I
Speaker 1: almost want to be like pencils down.
Speaker 3: I don't know anymore. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Or care who's fighting with her. They're just trying to
Speaker 1: bring shit up. They're like, yeah, Katie's Like I thought
Speaker 1: Gina was a girl's girl for me, but now I'm
Speaker 1: realizing she's a girl's girl for Heather.
Speaker 2: And it's like, yeah, say, I would be too. Heather's fun.
Speaker 2: She's gonna take you to New York.
Speaker 3: It's the blast.
Speaker 2: Heather's probably the only saying. I mean, she's a snob
Speaker 2: and she's a suffer, but she's all the things right.
Speaker 2: But she's still I could see what you'd want to
Speaker 2: hang out with her.
Speaker 1: I can too, but again, as so that I don't
Speaker 1: come off as a hypocrite.
Speaker 2: Hmm.
Speaker 1: I do think that she jumped ship pretty fast after
Speaker 1: trying I do if I'm Katie, and I'm like, this
Speaker 1: bitch brought me on the show and then told me
Speaker 1: to bring this thing. First of all, I'm not on
Speaker 1: Katie's side with this stupid she called the paparazzi. And look,
Speaker 1: I have proof because some guy named Scott is on
Speaker 1: my text saying yeah, she did call paparazzi.
Speaker 3: So I have the proof, I have the receipts.
Speaker 1: I'm not on her site either, but I do think
Speaker 1: it's interesting that Gina was like, Yeah, you've got to
Speaker 1: bring it up. You've got to bring it up. If
Speaker 1: you don't bring it up, well I'm gonna bring it up.
Speaker 1: You've got to bring it up. And then was like,
Speaker 1: what I didn't tell her to bring it up, and
Speaker 1: it's just.
Speaker 2: Like a dead dumb story that no one cared about
Speaker 2: hers oppression. Finally was like, we should let this one go.
Speaker 2: There's not going to let this happen, right, So okay,
Speaker 2: so Gina back to Gina and Tarma. It's going back
Speaker 2: and forth and they that's when they're talking about so Tamara,
Speaker 2: who needs to go to alan on and also probably
Speaker 2: AA for herself, like she's got some shit Tamra, she's
Speaker 2: got some problems, but she's asking all She's like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: so how is your time with Shannon? Did she drink?
Speaker 2: And she was like yeah, I mean you know, she drank.
Speaker 2: She wasn't wasted, but she drank, which is not Tamora's place.
Speaker 2: Oh she drank. Okay, now writing that down.
Speaker 3: Like, worry about yourself, girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's funny because of course Tamar is super
Speaker 1: triggered by Shannon drinking, because I think Tamara just feels
Speaker 1: like this is something now she has over Shannon, and
Speaker 1: she needs to be angry, and she really wants everybody
Speaker 1: else to be angry about it, and she cannot believe
Speaker 1: that anybody would be tolerant and be like, well, Shannon's
Speaker 1: going to get it when she gets it right, So
Speaker 1: she just has to keep picking at it. And the
Speaker 1: thing is, yeah, Shannon, it's sad Shannon is still drinking.
Speaker 1: It's not great like she did she did, you know,
Speaker 1: cause a lot of destruction. But and she is in denial.
Speaker 1: But it's not going to help her for Tamara to
Speaker 1: keep going Hell, that's never helped anybody ammers up about
Speaker 1: the tape. Finally, there's some information that at some point
Speaker 1: is being released. They're like, Okay, what is WEP with.
Speaker 2: This tape And it turns out that it's that there's
Speaker 2: ring footage.
Speaker 1: Well she hold on, hold on, but I have I
Speaker 1: thought this was kind of an important scene, so I
Speaker 1: just had a little bit more about it. So after uh,
Speaker 1: Tamar's like, was she drinking? And then she goes yeah,
Speaker 1: And then Tamer goes, yeah, she loves to drink. She's
Speaker 1: an alcoholic. And then she goes like like when you
Speaker 1: got a dui. Uh, She's like, you got a dui,
Speaker 1: but you weren't even an alcohol you weren't an alcoholic. Now,
Speaker 1: so now Tamra's actually, no, that's.
Speaker 3: Not what she said.
Speaker 2: She said you didn't have a problem drinking, and Gina said,
Speaker 2: yes I did, right, So distinguishing between being an alcoholic
Speaker 2: or being a problem drinker, which can be two different things.
Speaker 1: Yes, so but yes, but Gina, but Tamar is so
Speaker 1: like what are you a psychiatrist? Like how are you
Speaker 1: So you're going to diagnose Gina and diagnose Tamar? And
Speaker 1: I thought it was really important that Gina's like, uh,
Speaker 1: that's not true.
Speaker 3: I do have a drinking problem.
Speaker 1: And then Tamar's like, oh really, and then Gina tells us,
Speaker 1: which I thought was a really important story point. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: when I got my duy. She goes, when I got
Speaker 1: my d y, I kept drinking because I felt like
Speaker 1: a loser. You know, I was ready to take responsibility
Speaker 1: for my actions, but I wasn't ready to quit drinking.
Speaker 1: I thought this was really important because I do think
Speaker 1: that this is what's happening with Shannon. And then Tarama
Speaker 1: tries to go, yeah, but but she it's an asshole,
Speaker 1: and Gina is She's like, okay, listen, she's not ready
Speaker 1: to quit, and you can't make somebody be ready, right,
Speaker 1: And then Tara is like, well, yeah, I guess I
Speaker 1: need to talk to her. But I think tough love
Speaker 1: is the best thing for her. And I wanted to
Speaker 1: be like, how is that working?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: It's making it so much worse and everybody's telling you
Speaker 1: to stop doing it, And Tamra's like, no, I'm going
Speaker 1: to keep doing it.
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, that is an important thing, and I love
Speaker 2: That's another reason I love Gina.
Speaker 1: She's just like she's solid. I did like Gina at
Speaker 1: that point. She's being really honest. It's hard to admit
Speaker 1: she's talking about her duy and she's admitting, which she
Speaker 1: didn't have to do, that she continued drinking. I'm sure
Speaker 1: she got the dui, and that is a lot of people's.
Speaker 3: Path I don't know that she totally doesn't drink. Now.
Speaker 3: I don't think she's one hundred percent sober. She's sober,
Speaker 3: but she she's California sober.
Speaker 2: Okay, she smokes a little yep meth hm, that's you
Speaker 2: guys who A lot of people don't know.
Speaker 3: That's California sober. It's just heroin shooting up Harolin. Just
Speaker 3: a heroin. But that's Los Angela's sober.
Speaker 2: Yeah, la a sober so specific Baker's field sober is the.
Speaker 3: Mouth, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's just ridiculous that Tamara needs to be told
Speaker 2: to be nicer, but that's not going to work for
Speaker 2: her either.
Speaker 3: She's Tamra.
Speaker 1: She needs to be told to stop fucking yelling about
Speaker 1: Channing about her drinking, which is like, come on you,
Speaker 1: how do you need to be told to stop harassing
Speaker 1: somebody and being abusive over somebody's drinking, right, which is
Speaker 1: insane of her business.
Speaker 2: So then we go back to the Katie conversation about it.
Speaker 2: Finally this big news we've been waiting for. And I
Speaker 2: don't know why, Why does Katie have this information?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's so weird and they didn't explain it.
Speaker 3: It's like, what is this tape thing?
Speaker 2: Oh, there's ring footage of Shannon almost running over John
Speaker 2: Jansen's daughter. Okay, that is terrible. That may be true,
Speaker 2: but yeah, why is what the fuck?
Speaker 3: Oh you sorry? Sorry? But how is that going to
Speaker 3: ruin her life? How is that going to ruin her She.
Speaker 1: Already got the DUI, it's already on. We've already seen
Speaker 1: the footage of her. She hit a house, she had
Speaker 1: killed her Yeah, she had her dog in the car
Speaker 1: like almost doing something else like it was obviously in
Speaker 1: the same incident.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah, unless she was.
Speaker 1: Trying to do it on purpose exactly exactly, but I didn't.
Speaker 1: I think if she was that they would have said it.
Speaker 2: I guess, unless they're holding on to that to get
Speaker 2: you know, he's like blackmailing her, right, oh my god, horrendous.
Speaker 3: So maybe that maybe that's why he's trying to get money. Maybe.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he did give her money for
Speaker 2: a facelift. That is obviously she's not even denying that.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure it was not for free. I'm sure
Speaker 2: he wasn't like, let me buy you a facelift, but
Speaker 2: maybe he did. Who knows it's John Jansen.
Speaker 1: What if he's trying to get what if he is black?
Speaker 1: But what if he has footage and she knows it
Speaker 1: and he's like, you need to pay me money or
Speaker 1: I'm going to release this footage.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Then I like the way she's handling it, just like
Speaker 2: fuck it, come at me. Then let's go. Just let's
Speaker 2: deal with it and go and don't pay that guy
Speaker 2: any money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this could be a piece of shit.
Speaker 2: Like I hate him so much. I'm sorry, I'm cursing
Speaker 2: so much. I'm really wearing a lot.
Speaker 1: I really wish you weren't doing that because I just
Speaker 1: feel like this is a not a podcast where we well.
Speaker 2: It's a family show. It's g rated, it's very family.
Speaker 2: So speaking of families and nine kids, can we kind
Speaker 2: of skip over we'll talk about it. But the Jen
Speaker 2: Ryan getting a pedicure thing, Oh maybe me sick a
Speaker 2: little bit, care at all? I mean, he's just and
Speaker 2: then he's always so cool, always so weird, what a
Speaker 2: weirdo always getting this tote was painted. Nobody cares about you,
Speaker 2: nobody cares about Jen, No one wants either of them
Speaker 2: on the show.
Speaker 3: And then it's just more recaps.
Speaker 1: Also and here here's here's something that's super judgmental of me,
Speaker 1: uh because I just felt like really judging through this
Speaker 1: whole thing. So Jen in this scene is trying to
Speaker 1: garner sympathy for how she's coddled her kids because out
Speaker 1: of guilt, and you know, maybe it was the wrong thing,
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe her kids are going to be
Speaker 1: a little like handicapped in the world because she's done
Speaker 1: everything for them. Here's here's here's a bigger way that
Speaker 1: you fucked up. You moved your kids in with some
Speaker 1: guy that you don't even know what he that you
Speaker 1: fully admit you don't even really know what he does
Speaker 1: for a living, Like there's some shadiest fuck stuff about
Speaker 1: this guy, but you felt that you were too broke,
Speaker 1: so you yet again depended on another guy and moved
Speaker 1: your kids into a situation to live with a guy
Speaker 1: that they don't know. That's way worse than like, oh,
Speaker 1: I do too much stuff for my kids, right, Yes, agreed, agreed.
Speaker 1: I just love my kids too much. I just like
Speaker 1: I do everything for them, and like I could be
Speaker 1: doing them a disservice. No, moving in with another fucking
Speaker 1: strange guy is a bigger dist.
Speaker 3: Like how do you not? I'm just like, do you
Speaker 3: do you eat here yourself? Well?
Speaker 2: And they're making like kids part of production where it's like,
Speaker 2: obviously that was planned that the kid his her son
Speaker 2: calls and is like, I don't have enough TP to
Speaker 2: tpee this house. And she's like, oh okay, wait, you
Speaker 2: can't tpee during the day, Like she's just permissive mom,
Speaker 2: like bat mom. But now this kid has to act.
Speaker 2: He's literally it's like on House Hunters when they have
Speaker 2: to pretend that they haven't already bought one of those houses, right,
Speaker 2: they have to like, hmmm, the closets are a little
Speaker 2: small where you're gonna put your shoes hunting right every
Speaker 2: single freaking time, and they're just they're bad actors, right.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I get really mad about House Hunters.
Speaker 1: So I mean, yes, it was a whole scene so
Speaker 1: that she could be like so that Rye in Oh
Speaker 1: my god, mind your own fucking business, is like you
Speaker 1: do too much for those kids. You don't have to
Speaker 1: say us to everything. You you're allowed to just like
Speaker 1: say no to stuff. She should have said no to
Speaker 1: moving in with your stupid ass. Yeah, and nothing worse,
Speaker 1: like these kids are being bounced around. They already have
Speaker 1: other issues with their dad and all that. Nothing worse
Speaker 1: than some creepy step dad. Community's like, you don't have
Speaker 1: to buy him a car, You don't have to make
Speaker 1: them dinner. Look to make their own dinner. He's five
Speaker 1: years old. You can make his dinner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. Doctor Phil has whole episodes about that
Speaker 3: are used to. Yeah, now you're not your business. That
Speaker 3: is their relationship. That's like again yeah and then but
Speaker 3: the fact is she even says that she's even like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even really know what he does for
Speaker 1: a living, right, Okay, but yet you felt good about
Speaker 1: moving your kids in there.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Is that stuff makes me irritating. I don't like them either. Okay,
Speaker 2: So now's the big scene. So Tamra's gonna meet with Shannon.
Speaker 2: But first, of course, they have to have their two
Speaker 2: phone calls to their friends to set this up. So
Speaker 2: Tamra calls Alexis, who's doing it in the middle of
Speaker 2: doing a confessional in this moment.
Speaker 3: No Jen camera calls Jena, Oh that was Jen? Are
Speaker 3: you I swear to you it wasn't Alexis. It was Jen.
Speaker 2: The amount of makeup they have on, I cannot tell
Speaker 2: the difference. You can't tell the difference, but it was Jen.
Speaker 2: She's like, what are you doing? And she goes, oh,
Speaker 2: just sitting in my living room? Are you sitting in?
Speaker 2: One hundred percent? Sure that wasn't Alexis?
Speaker 3: Was Jen? Okay? Wow, that's crazy? All right?
Speaker 2: So she calls her for no reason. Tamra's all riled up. Well,
Speaker 2: Heather and Shannon have a little talk and Heather has
Speaker 2: nothing else to say except like, well you look good.
Speaker 2: Good luck money mm hmm. So they meet at this
Speaker 2: restaurant and at first I thought Tamara was drinking. I
Speaker 2: thought she had a glass of wine and I was like,
Speaker 2: you are not going to order a glass of wine
Speaker 2: for this conversation. She's like, I'm gonna need a drink
Speaker 2: for this, all right, I'm gonna need a lot to drink. Tekyla,
Speaker 2: not for you, bitch. But I think it was just water.
Speaker 2: So Shannon gets water, which we're all focusing on.
Speaker 1: Shannon is like so mad, and again like she has
Speaker 1: a reason to be mad because Tama's horrible, but also
Speaker 1: she's just it's just so like, Okay, everybody's coming for me.
Speaker 1: I you know, it's just so hard for me. Everybody's
Speaker 1: so mean to me. But I know everybody, no one's
Speaker 1: going to agree with me on this.
Speaker 2: So well, now I think people will don't be you know, listen,
Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think it's just Tama is
Speaker 2: not the messenger, no terrible messenger. It starts right away, immediately,
Speaker 2: right away, they're like such a bady. Yeah, because she's
Speaker 2: like immediately de Channon, like I was thinking you would
Speaker 2: reach out to me? What and she I was one
Speaker 2: hundred percent of Chanon said and I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, you've just been yelling at me in public
Speaker 2: non stop. I'm not going to reach out to you.
Speaker 2: I didn't want anything to do with you. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to like survive.
Speaker 1: Right, Shannon's like, you've been doing nothing but defaming me,
Speaker 1: and Tammar goes.
Speaker 3: Defaming you, defaming you.
Speaker 2: At that point I would have walked out, yeah, and
Speaker 2: which she kind of did and at this point too. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Shannon goes, you called me an alcoholic, and then.
Speaker 1: Tamar's like, but you still dank again, same thing, and
Speaker 1: then yeah.
Speaker 3: Such a sad mumble.
Speaker 2: She is like, I have two at most, but you know,
Speaker 2: probably not, I mean for sure, not right it is.
Speaker 1: But again, as everyone keeps pointing out, and I agree,
Speaker 1: none of our business. It's none of anybody's business what
Speaker 1: she drinks, if she's not crashing her car or whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know it's it's not for Tamra. You
Speaker 1: know what, are you going to get a camera and
Speaker 1: put it in Shannon's house and like call her out
Speaker 1: on it. What Tamra's responding to, though, is the fact
Speaker 1: that Shannon is lying about it and then telling everybody
Speaker 1: like in this innocent like what, no, I really don't drink.
Speaker 1: I really don't have a problem. I have two drinks
Speaker 1: if it becomes a problem. And tam like you, feels
Speaker 1: a little gas lit by this because she's had a
Speaker 1: couple of times and she says it where she's witnessed
Speaker 1: Shannon sneaking, remember at their live show.
Speaker 3: It's the reason she doesn't want to do the live
Speaker 3: show with her anymore.
Speaker 2: That's funny to me because they all drink a lot.
Speaker 2: They all drink, and then Shannon was the one who
Speaker 2: got the duo. You know, Shannon got Maybe it's a
Speaker 2: little worse, but they all do it, so it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: you did it the worst. Now I don't have to
Speaker 2: focus on my own issues because you've got your issues.
Speaker 1: True, I agree, I agree, But I'm just saying what
Speaker 1: Tamra thinks she's responding to is how Shannon keeps going,
Speaker 1: I'm totally fine, I'm totally fine, But then why are
Speaker 1: you sneaking over to a bartender and asking it and
Speaker 1: then saying what, I only have two drinks?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: But maybe Shannon feels like she wants to still drink.
Speaker 1: She needs to still drink whatever drinking problem, none of
Speaker 1: my business. But maybe she feels like now she can't
Speaker 1: because everybody's watching her. So that's why she's being sneaky. Right,
Speaker 1: Either way, it's not really Tamar's business.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Shannon takes a break, comes back for Tamar
Speaker 2: again to just kind of be a cuse. But then
Speaker 2: it all comes up we talked about before the Alexis
Speaker 2: John conversation comes up.
Speaker 1: Of course, because that's what Shannon's go to. She's now
Speaker 1: she's done this to this whole episode. This is why
Speaker 1: I had this macro note at the beginning. Whatever anybody
Speaker 1: brings up to Shannon, She's like, but John Jadson' suing.
Speaker 3: Me and I didn't even do anything. I was the
Speaker 3: nicest girlfriend in the whole world. They paid for everything,
Speaker 3: and now he's suing.
Speaker 2: Me, right, And the weird thing here is that Tamar's like, wait,
Speaker 2: he is, as though Tamar didn't already know that that
Speaker 2: was already weird too, That's been discussed a million times.
Speaker 2: She knows, so she's like, wait, he's suing you, And
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden she flips because, like I said,
Speaker 2: ding ding ding, Oh yeah, that's right, Like he's terrible,
Speaker 2: Alexis is terrible, Jim is terrible. They didn't even Tamer's like,
Speaker 2: we didn't even know if we were going to be
Speaker 2: like wiped clean of all our money. At certain points,
Speaker 2: it was very stressful to be sued by these fucking
Speaker 2: nightmare of people. And so now all of a sudden
Speaker 2: she's like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, and hugs are which
Speaker 2: now Shannon's been so beaten down by this woman that
Speaker 2: a hug from her is like, oh, thank God, I
Speaker 2: love you.
Speaker 3: No, you should never love Tamra. She's a terrible person.
Speaker 2: But do you know what I mean? It was like
Speaker 2: the thing, the bullying thing that like a Trump would do.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I felt I felt like I didn't even
Speaker 1: know if Tama actually had empathy because Tamar had gone
Speaker 1: through it. I felt like Tama took stock of the
Speaker 1: situation really quickly and was like, hmm, am I going
Speaker 1: to keep going hard at her. She's sitting here crying,
Speaker 1: like how's this going to look for me? I better
Speaker 1: turn a little bit chat it around so.
Speaker 2: Fast, there might been a little I think it was
Speaker 2: just a memory of like, oh yeah, that does suck.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I'm sorry, And then like hey, I'm having
Speaker 2: a party, will you come to my party? And Shannon's
Speaker 2: like really, I'm just watching this like most emotionally abusive situation.
Speaker 2: I mean, if if I were Shannon, I would just
Speaker 2: say no, thanks. But you don't want someone like camera
Speaker 2: on your other side of you, right, so you can't.
Speaker 2: And then she's been so beaten down like you can't
Speaker 2: be like.
Speaker 1: No, you've been such a bitch. Of course I don't
Speaker 1: want to go to your party. Then Tamra's good.
Speaker 3: She can't.
Speaker 1: She's just trying to like protect her peace a little bit. Yes, yes, Oh,
Speaker 1: the whole thing made me want to take a shower,
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: Like a silkwood shower.
Speaker 2: Do you have the chemicals at your house?
Speaker 3: If you.
Speaker 2: You have, I mean, I can bring them over if
Speaker 2: you want. We could shower together. I don't mean that
Speaker 2: like that. I hope you're not reading me like I'm not.
Speaker 2: I know, I said I was in love with Genas sexually,
Speaker 2: and I am. I've never been with a woman, and
Speaker 2: I'm not Stephanie. I don't want to shower with.
Speaker 3: You've never been with a woman.
Speaker 2: I never have.
Speaker 3: Actually, I mean I've been with them for lunch and stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, that's what I meant. I was like, that's
Speaker 1: so weird, Like I feel like I've always known you
Speaker 1: to have like at least a few women friends.
Speaker 2: I've never been around. I'm not allowed in my religion
Speaker 2: to be around females right right. I don't know why,
Speaker 2: but but I will shower with you because I have
Speaker 2: the chemicals and I think we should do at the
Speaker 2: same time.
Speaker 3: We need to.
Speaker 2: Scrub it down, scrub it down each other. I just
Speaker 2: give me all right this show, it was not our
Speaker 2: favorite episode. We do realize we're behind, so we will
Speaker 2: be caught up this week, as we always are. We
Speaker 2: will give you know, this week's hopefully some shit goes down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also we'll post this today and then we'll
Speaker 1: have The Bachelor. You guys, go go listen to our
Speaker 1: Bachelor recap from last night. And also what we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Yeah, such a market have Bachelor Part two and ninety days,
Speaker 2: so stay with us. We've got lots coming at you.
Speaker 2: So today you're listening to this now you know what's happening.
Speaker 2: Also The Bachelor, And let me just throw this in
Speaker 2: there if you're not on Patreon Rose Picks, that's where
Speaker 2: we're doing Golden Bachelor, which is going to be off
Speaker 2: the rails this year, and we've already started.
Speaker 1: Can I just tell you that I every time I
Speaker 1: see a commercial for it, when I'm watching The Bachelor,
Speaker 1: I get like full body excitement.
Speaker 2: I mean actually cried. I cried one of the like
Speaker 2: for the trailer. Very into it. Mark me too, love him,
Speaker 2: He's so cute, he seems great, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: real cuties. I'm into it. I'm actually very envious. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't be the Golden Bachelorette.
Speaker 1: Not yet.
Speaker 2: It's too soon, but you mark my words, I'll be that.
Speaker 2: I'm going to make it to that. Give it six months,
Speaker 2: you know, no, you give it six months. I still
Speaker 2: have like a decade, but you could do it. Listen,
Speaker 2: I'll marry John. Okay, my voice is so cracky right now.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you guys. Should we just start this whole
Speaker 2: oc one over? Start over, start over?
Speaker 3: Okay, just kidding you. Guys. We love you. We'll see
Speaker 3: you tomorrow or later today for the Bachelor. Thank you, guys. Bye,