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on Cougar Sports. What's happening in Cougar Country?

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Speaker 1: Now? I know it's basketball.

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Speaker 3: Season, and I know we just finished up a fantastic

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NFL season. The Super Bowl was lackluster though. It was

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maybe one of the more boring super Bowls in recent history.

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Now there's been plenty of boring super Bowls in in history,

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there's no doubt, but in just recent history it's it's

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been pretty good. We've had some great games, we've had

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the underlations, the back and forth. This game was a

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defensive struggle, and we all know defensive struggles. No one

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likes the pitchers DoLS in baseball, notrely that like the

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pitchers duels, the defensive duels in foot ball. But so

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you know what happened last night. It was unfortunate, right,

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it was unfortunate on many levels. The true Super Bowl

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actually occurred. You know when the Rams were playing, and

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Puka Nakula was going off and Stafford the MVP was

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going off.

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Speaker 1: That was the true Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: But kudos to New England, gritty, tenacious. Just a shout

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out to Kiris Tona. He had himself a day as well.

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Thought he played well. The defense for New England looked good.

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And so the season is done and you know, we

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can move on to I guess the college basketball world

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and college basketball season.

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Speaker 1: But let's talk some Cougar football.

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Speaker 3: We have about a few weeks prior to springball. What

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will the storylines be in the twenty twenty six Camp

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Koalani springball?

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Speaker 1: Do you think Ronald three man we.

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Speaker 3: What are some of the key question marks we need

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to have answered in springball?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I think the biggest one being a couple of them.

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on a diet track because we'll be talking about in

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probably three weeks, but I think the biggest one.

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Speaker 1: Turn yourself up. Just just a hair of Ronnie?

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Speaker 4: Is that better now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Just yeah, just a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Okay. I think the biggest thing, the biggest storyline is

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gonna be obviously running back number two l J. Martin

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who's behind him Ben? I think that's the biggest thing.

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Devon Ekka, how has he looked? Because Baron LJ were

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running Ben and that's the biggest thing. But they can't

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take that type of beating like they did. I know

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Lj's the running big Toeve offensive player of the year.

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Everyone wants to know who RB two is ISONI MO

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gonna be healthy, like everyone wants to know that. I

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think that's the biggest storyline. And I know people are

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gonna say, Ronnie, but what about Bear? And you know

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here two we know that the development is gonna come.

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additions of you know, Walker Lyons, how is that with

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losing Carson round we saw what he was able to do.

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Robert Telly a pot of a second like how does

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he look as well? So the tight end room, I

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think is gonna be another storyline that people want to

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look at. And in another storyline that I'm going to

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be looking at, how to the three offensive line? And

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look how the the you know the additions that you

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brought in because you lost guys to whether that be

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the nfl A graduation. How do those guys look so

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pretty much summering up overall this running back depth RB

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two obviously you know it's going to be the tight

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ends and the new editions of transfers, the offensive line

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and being then QB two. I think that's going to

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we know we see with Byu with Bear, but what

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does Boyu have behind Bear? Is it going to be

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tracing borget is k Enan Watson pushed for time? I

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think those are going to be the top four storylines

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Speaker 3: One of the intriguing storylines for me, and I know

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BAU fans hate talking about it, but we have been

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have been really good on special teams since I would

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Shatake era, which I believe is at I think he's

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probably the second best era in BAU football history. I

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think it's right there with that five to twenty eleven era.

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Speaker 1: It's right there head to head.

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Speaker 3: One of the key components to this that the winning

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ways of Brigham in twenty twenty and through twenty twenty

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five has been special teams. We have been really good

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as a special teams unit. Remember Jake Oldroyd is the

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all time leading score in BYU football history.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: We've had great punters as well, remember Ryan Rico. Okay,

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NFL punter Sam vander Hart has been good. Will Farren,

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you're replacing him. I think many times in football you

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take for granted the long snap, the place kick, the punt,

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the years with are you know since twenty twenty in

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Speaker 1: It's been it's been kind of insane. Okay.

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Speaker 3: And we've been really good on kick cover as well.

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one of the few guys, okay, one of the few players,

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one of two players in fact, that got invited to

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the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Do you realize that, like, do you realize how special

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Speaker 3: If you're a Senior Ball invite, you are an elite

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college football player. It is very difficult to, I believe,

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replace elite.

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Speaker 1: Specialists.

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Speaker 3: And that's what Will Farron was during his career at BYU.

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Now did he have a few misshaps yea, as all do.

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vander Harr also was very consistent the last couple of

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years the transfer from PITT. Remember he was a P

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four starter at PITT before coming to BYU and being

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a multi year starter at BYU. Punter, unique punting style,

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OSTI style. Right, he was good. So you're looking to

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replace Will Farren and Sam Vanderharr right now, okay? And

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and maybe vanderhr gets another year. He very well could,

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but it looks like his eligibility could be up. But

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place the waiver. See if the NC double A is

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feeling gracious, is feeling a little bit generous, that could happen.

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Speaker 1: It very well could.

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Speaker 3: Full of shirts. Was the player that he's the backup

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punter right now? Okay, so he would be replacing Sam

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vander Harr. He did get a look did not look good.

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if you guys remember, but he dropped the football and

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didn't kick it.

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Speaker 1: He was on the ground. I can't remember what game

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it was, Yeah, it.

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Speaker 3: Was actually the TCU game. I think it was the

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TCU game in fact. So he did have one punt

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for like forty one yards and then on this second

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attempt kind of muffed it. So look like he's young,

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he's talented, and as you recall those that tune into

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the show consistently, he's the reason why land and Rico

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ended up at Utah State in my opinion, Now this

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is just my opinion. Okay, Landon Rico was a pretty

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good kicker for BYU. He ended up at Utah State,

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the younger brother of Ryan Rico, six foot, one hundred

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and seventy five pounds, sophomore out of Veradell, Washington. He

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had sixty eight punts for Utah State, averaged forty two

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point nine yards per punt along of sixty three.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good. So they must have really liked, you know,

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full of shirts.

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Speaker 3: Now, granted, some people can say, well he left so

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he could be punter number one, and there's probably some

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credence to that as well. But you know, you know,

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he's still young, he's an underclassman, didn't have to go elsewhere,

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you know, to go and punt. He probably could have

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got some looks this year because Sam Vannero had his

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Speaker 1: Downs at any rate.

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Speaker 3: So I'm looking at this and I'm like, Okay, what's

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the situation in the punting room. Okay, in the punt category,

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and are we going to see a drop in punting

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capabilities and.

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Speaker 1: Flipping the field? Okay?

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Speaker 3: Field position battle is something that BYU has won consistently

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over the last few years. From twenty twenty, you know

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to present day. I think we've been pretty guys staying good.

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Now the placekicking, what's going on with the place kicking.

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Matthia's done. He's gonna be the number one placekicker in

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spring ball. Matthia's done, has been on the team now

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for a few seasons, has been the backup.

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Speaker 1: Now, remember.

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Speaker 3: Just a couple of seasons ago during spring Will Fair

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and Matthia's number.

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Speaker 1: Going head to head.

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Speaker 3: Okay, they were going head to heead and it was

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a close one. Will Farann ultimately ended up winning the battle.

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He's got a huge leg. This is a solid leg

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as well. Uh, and they were able to, uh, you know,

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solidify that Will was going to be the guy for

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the future.

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Speaker 1: But Matthias has been good, easy as good.

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Speaker 3: As Jake Oldroyd was in his prime and Will Farron

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was when he was at his best. To be determined,

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but Ian Sanchez freshman number two kicker in spring camp,

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someone to keep an eye on. And then also Brody

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Laga has returned home from a mission.

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Speaker 1: I believe or will be to returning home from a mission.

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Speaker 3: He'll he'll be He'll be back soon. Brodie Laga, big kicker,

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big time leg. He'll be a scholarship kicker for the

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twenty twenty four class. Watch out for Brody Laga. Now,

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I'm always a little bit concerned, you know, young bucks,

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young pups, you know, coming in and becoming the starting kicker.

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Speaker 1: This is this is high level football, This is Big

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twelve football.

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Speaker 3: This is this is all eyes on you, the stars

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and the lights are right okay, and it is uh is,

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it's very intense. So I'm I'm always a little bit

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concerned about, you know, the young true freshman coming in

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and earned the job. But he's definitely got the talent,

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no if answer butts about it. So also along with

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these uh these kicker competitions that are occurring, the punching

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competition that occurring, we're also replacing a long snapper. Okay,

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we're replacing a long snapper. So you got a you

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got a couple of situations here. Raydon Heinz was just

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acquired from Snow College. Uh and so can't wait to

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see what he can do. I mean, he's been down

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there as a snow College badgel. I have to get

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Zach Erickson maybe online. Tell us what Raydon Heinz brings

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long snapper. But it is I always I have a

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he's he's coaching only the special teams. All eyes on

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the entire team with Justin Ena there at the special

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teams coordinating. Help, let's go to break, guys, please don't

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Talking to super Bowl, how Cairostonga played and uh what

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ultimately happened in this game?

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Speaker 1: It was, It was ugly.

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Speaker 3: It was not a fun game to watch us unless

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you love pitchers news, unless you love defensive execution. All

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of the the individuals that I was watching the game

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with were bored out of their mind. I'm a defensive

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player and even I was bored at times. But there's

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the Super Bowl, it was a picture's tool, There's no

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doubt about it. Essentially, the Seahawks are dominated the game

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in many ways, dominated the line of scrimmage, and they

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were able to I think impose their will for more

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to the game.

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Speaker 1: Now, that did not necessarily turn into touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: That turned into a plethora of place kicking opportunities, right,

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and so the Seahawks they did it through special teams

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and defense. In their offense look solid. They look solid.

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Let's be honesty. Now, New England's defense is one of

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the best in the NFL as well. This was a

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defensive battle. That's why the over under was so low,

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and I think it stayed on the under. One of

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the things that I would say I was disappointed in

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regarding the Super Bowl, Okay, and I understand Drake May

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did not make us Hay did not lead the Patriots

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to a seventeen win season by running the football. I

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was disappointed though that in the second half, with how

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they struggled throwing the ball and running the ball, why

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they didn't include Drake May in the run game. I

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think there was one step one lack of foresight. It

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was that Drake May, in order to win a Super Bowl,

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had to be utilized in the QB run game. Up

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to that point, right up to this this season, Drake

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May was tremendous. He threw for a ridiculous amount of

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yards ninety four eight point nine yards per throw or

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per reception, thirty one touchdowns and only eight ironts.

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Speaker 1: So it's very difficult, Okay, this is constructive criticism.

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Speaker 3: Very difficult to go away from what you've done so well.

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But the Seahawks defense, the depth, the talent and the

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scheme that they employ they have they make you change

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your ways.

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Speaker 4: That defense is elite.

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Speaker 3: The only thing that I would say constructive lead to

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the New England Patriers is that Drake May should have

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been more involved in the run game and if they did,

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if he was, they probably would have been in this

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game late into the fourth quarter with a chance to

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win the game. Drake May remember versus Denver in order

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to win it. Do you know how many times he

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ran the ball? Okay, in the postseason, when Drake May

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is running the ball, they were a better football team

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in my opinion. Versus the Chargers he ran ten times

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for sixty six yards versus Denver ten times sixty five yards.

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times for thirty seven yards everything seven point four yards

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per carry. Now, many of these are scrambles. Some of

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them are tucking runs with the pocket collapsing. If you

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pepper in a few QB design runs, Seattle will have

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to account for the run game.

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Speaker 1: And remember, Drake May's a big body.

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Speaker 3: It's not like he's you know, six foot one, two

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hundred and five pounds. That man is six four five

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and he can run like Drake is not the ultimate

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dual threat quarterback by any means. But I want to

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say he was fairly impressive at his combine.

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Speaker 1: Did he run the forty?

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you know, I felt like they underutilized him there and so,

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uh it is what it is, Seattle congratulations.

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Speaker 1: I will say I have seen an uptick.

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Speaker 3: Of individuals in the National Football I always said that

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the National Football League is much more Christian centered, even

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like you know, from a from a religiosity standpoint, and

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you know they it probably leans more conservative as well

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the NFL does from a player standpoint. You have a

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lot of players stepping up to the mic and coaches

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preaching of Christ, speaking of Christ. And you know what,

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Kyris Tonga, former BYU defensive tackle, was one of those

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guys leading up to the Super Bowl. So I will say, like,

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I don't know if you saw this, there's a special

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I sent you. I sent you a sound bite as well.

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Maybe we're going to play that here in the Cougar byte.

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We'll get that in. It's testimonies of Christ of all

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these players. Okay, they came together pregame, testifying and essentially saying,

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look like, I'm more than just a football player. I'm

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more than just the guy that you see on the

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grid iron.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen in.

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Speaker 4: We're in here.

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Speaker 1: You'll spread the word knowing that that's bigger than football.

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Speaker 6: By I'm here on this stage today and be able

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to shine line on others and get them to follow

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Jesus Christ is what your gop.

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Speaker 1: I'm here to do.

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Speaker 4: Having Jesus to rely on is why I am who

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I am today.

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Speaker 1: Jesus has given me the ability to just stay levelheaded.

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Speaker 4: My faith that Jesus has meant everything to me. It's

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really my foundation. It's my rock that keeps me steady.

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Keeping my eyes on the Lord helped me flock out

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of the noise and in trust in Him. And you

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know his way is the best way. And you know

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Jesus loved that. Wouldn't be where I am Without God,

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I wouldn't be in this position.

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Speaker 1: I'm grateful. I give him all the glory. I know

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I wouldn't be anywhere without God.

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Speaker 4: No matter what happens in my career, I know I'll

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be all right because of this. It's the only thing

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that can truly fulfill us.

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Speaker 1: To Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 4: It's not the money, it's not my accomplishment, it's it's

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not anything else but only Jesus.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm seeing a and I've talked about this a

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lot over the last year. Or two in college football

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and the National Football League, players wearing their faith on

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their chest. They go to the mic postgame and they

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give glory to the man of bone. They give glory

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to God and.

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Speaker 1: Their Lord, savor Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 3: I think it's it's refreshing because for how long, for

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how long has it been somewhat of a hiss sin

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a by word? You know, you couldn't speak about faith,

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You couldn't speak about religion, couldn't speak about Christ. I

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love to see this and and.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Kiris Tonga.

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Speaker 3: Also, Kiris caught up with Brandon Jutta the Desrat News

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in preparation for the Super Bowl, and Kirius commented on

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his role and the role that the LDS faith plays

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in his life. Check out the full story there at

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the Deserrat News, but here's some comments from Kiris Tona.

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Speaker 4: There's everything to me.

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Speaker 6: I think that's who I am, and that's hopefully that's

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hopefully something that I can be like when someone looks

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at me, it's not just a football player. For Christian

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man and a good man, and my faith is everything

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to me. Has taught me a lot and I'm still

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learning but still growing Uh, the fact that I have

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and knowledge that I do have, it's very comforting to.

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Speaker 4: Know, especially a time like this.

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Speaker 6: So but yeah, I love my faith and uh yeah.

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Speaker 3: Big part of his life obviously, Kiris Toga buring his

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testimony prior to kicking off the Super Bowl. He had

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a couple of nice players in the Super Bowl walking

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back offensive lineman, creating disruption getting into the backfield.

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Speaker 1: Uh. He's a huge part of the success and he's

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a big part of that success.

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Speaker 3: Of that New England Patriots defensive front. And they are talented.

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That is a good defense.

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Speaker 1: Uh, they just fell a little bit short versus the

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best defense.

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Speaker 3: Uh the I guess this team, Patriots team fell a

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little bit short versus the best defense in the National

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get into a few nuggets regarding this Cougar football team,

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shall we. I know BYU basketball is, and I'll give

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you a little nugget as well as it pertains to

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basketball here momentarily. But let's start off with a little

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bit of football insider knowledge. What will this Cougar football

494
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team look like in twenty twelve, six and beyond? Many

495
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BYU fans Okay, as we've pulled them over the last

496
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two years, seeing the investment, seeing the resource allocation and

497
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it being somewhat lopsided. Let's be honest, over the last

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two years with basketball being seemingly the priority. Okay, why

499
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getting a big ray or getting a big h You know,

500
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I would say dollar amount allocated to him, and it

501
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was merited. I mean, he was one of the highest

502
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paid assistant coaches in the NBA, one of the best

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in the business.

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Speaker 1: Know his answer butts about it.

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Speaker 3: But I've pulled the fans and in time and time again,

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BYU fans have stated to me, I'm more optimistic about

507
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the future of BYU basketball than I am of b

508
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YU football. All of a sudden, okay, with a four

509
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game losing streak, I've had those same conversations, and I

510
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know recency bias is big, but what they're realizing, what

511
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BA fans are realizing, is this culture, cohesion, continuity. Many times, okay,

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in college sports can outplay and win against talent. That's

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what I think football in particular. Right You wonder, does

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be why you need more talent in football to get

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over the hump? Some people believe that, but I think

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that tenure, that buy in, that cohesion and culture, the

517
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buy into the culture and the buy into development, is

518
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going to be able to supersede the acquisition of mercenaries,

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the acquisitions of talent, and the dollar bills that you

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spend in basketball.

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering what.

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Speaker 3: The next step is for BYU basketball, right, Like who

523
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did you lose? Your lost Dallent b Why you got

524
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Dallen Hall probably should be on the roster, right, would

525
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have been beneficial to have them?

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Speaker 1: Who else did you lose? Foos? He's a guy that

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was tenured.

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Speaker 3: A BYU guy, a BYU dude, bought in from the beginning,

529
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developed and was a fantastic basketball player for BYU, an

530
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all timer in my opinion as a big You lost Trevin,

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now you lost Trey Stewart. These are all BYU guys, right,

532
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Guys that got old stay old. They were in the

533
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system for a long time, the BYU system. It doesn't

534
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necessarily have to be the same coach. They just have

535
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to be bought into the Brigham way. So when I

536
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asked you this question, Ronald, what are you more optimistic about?

537
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And what does the next step right? Once AJ's a

538
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one and done, right, you wonder if Canard comes back?

539
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You wonder if some of these guys that have eligibility

540
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they come back or is it another rebuild, reload, the

541
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mercenario type of approach to the portal in basketball, Because

542
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I'm not seeing a whole lot of the BYU guys.

543
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They did retain Brody. He's got to get healthy. You know,

544
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Dawson's trying to get another He's trying to get a waiver,

545
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he's trying to come back.

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Speaker 4: I understand that he's already approved to come back for

547
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next He's approved.

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Speaker 3: He's approved, So that's official. So Dawson's gonna come back.

549
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Hopefully he's healthy. Remember he's gone through his fair share

550
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of injuries. Hopefully he gets back he's hundred percent. But

551
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are you more optism about about football? Seeing them retain everybody, right,

552
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the stability, the coaching staff, the buy in from the

553
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coaching staff. Uh and and you're yeah, you're allocatting more

554
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nil to them, but they're not necessarily the highest bidders

555
00:29:42,599 --> 00:29:45,359
in the NIL world, in the NFL, in the nil

556
00:29:46,079 --> 00:29:52,079
college football world. They retain and they acquired various strategic acquisitions.

557
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Which one are you more optimistic about right now?

558
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Speaker 4: This is a tough question because I mean, the short

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answer right now is obviously football with what they retained, right,

560
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with their coaching staff and what they did. But they're

561
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gonna lose a lot of talent going into the twenty

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twenty seven to twenty eight season. And you know, you

563
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don't know what guys, you're even gonna get back after

564
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this season. So the short answer right now is football,

565
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I think, and what they have. And I know a

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lot of people are gonna say, well, killine is a

567
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long term extension. You just you don't know. I mean,

568
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you don't know if with Ryder coming back, if that's

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gonna be a for sure thing. You have no idea,

570
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right Ben. So I think short answer like the next

571
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like five years, if I had to bank on it,

572
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I would take football. I think long term basketball just

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because of the shorter games. Eventually these as long as

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you know, I think, as long as both head coaches

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football and basketball, that they have a chance. But basketball

576
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is just it's less to like manage and it's less

577
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guys like not every year, you're right, But when's the

578
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next time there's gonna be a deep draft class, Ben,

579
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next year's not gonna be a deep draft class like this,

580
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Like that's one of the reasons why BYU I think

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is struggling, not just with this debt, but look at

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all the freshmen they're playing against. I mean, Kingston Fleman's

583
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NAC junior, Darren Peterson, the kid at Iowa State, you

584
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turn everywhere in the Big twelve and it's a top team. Honestly,

585
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it's it's it's ridiculous. Arizona would coed Pete Brayden, Burris H.

586
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Bradley like, I mean there's draft picks up the Wazoo,

587
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beIN up and down the Big twelve, and this draft

588
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class is phenomenal. But I mean, you have a chance

589
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to get Tyrin Soolks. I don't think he'll come to BYU,

590
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but you have a chance to get top pick in

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top talent. But I think for basketball, they're gonna have to,

592
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you know, get guys like Dawson Baker, the Brody's, the

593
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Dean Rukers, the will Open Charles. You're gonna have to

594
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keep around the local products to mix in because it's

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not gonna work the one and done. They just it

596
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doesn't work that way. Why did Houston go to the

597
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national championship. They had a six year senior and Juwan

598
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Roberts Like, you have to have guys like that, And

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you know, I think Kevin Young is a smart man

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to figure it out, and he's accomplished so much in

601
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just two years of being the head coach. But I

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think right now with the next five years of football

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because I think they have they have the most momentum.

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I know people are gonna say I'm crazy in saying it,

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but I just think the retention, Like, if you can

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do that with what you have with this roster band

607
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and coming back, what can you do with the years

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to come? That has to give you confidence? Now you

609
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have to do it. But I mean with what their

610
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recruiting band, with what they're bringing back, and then the

611
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kids that are on missions that are gonna come back

612
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and play the bron Harris is the Rhyiners Swanson's. I mean,

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I really like what Kolani has in place. So I

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think right now the next five years, I would say

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football because of the culture, but I think long term

616
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basketball as long as Kevin Young's dead coach. Now if

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he leaves, that's off the table. I just think it's

618
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less to managing basketball, and it's easier to catch that

619
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on a given day than football because you're still gonna

620
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have Texas Tech and you're still gonna have to meet

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other teams, come to college football playoffs or in basketball,

622
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,599
you get a top you know three seeding band, you

623
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go on a good run, you know you're there. But football.

624
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I mean, you're always gonna meet the Alabama's, the Georgia's.

625
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You can outrun that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you wonder.

627
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Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm looking at the bou basketball roster, and

628
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this team very well could be a Sweet sixteen team

629
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or even beyond that. I really hope that it's the case,

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even though in the last four games it doesn't seem

631
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like they're trending in that direction. Rob writes a sophomore.

632
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Is Rob Wright coming back next year?

633
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Speaker 1: Right? Is he?

634
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Speaker 4: Is? He just discussion?

635
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Speaker 1: Is he coming back? You know what I mean?

636
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Speaker 3: Like, I wonder. Obviously, Bertie coaslasts he's probably coming back.

637
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Tyler Morass he's he's got to come back, and list

638
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be always gonna push him out. Aj is Donehilo is

639
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a senior, he's done.

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Speaker 1: Alexi Costick do they like him? I actually like Alexi.

641
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I think he gets like.

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Speaker 4: I like Tyler too, I like Dominique. I like all

643
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those guys.

644
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I like Hadeem. Obviously, it's like.

645
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Speaker 3: Nate Pickens, Uh, he'll redshirt. I guess is in medical

646
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,160
redsher He'll be back. keV is a senior, he's out.

647
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Richie's out. Dominique Diamonde Richard freshman, he's coming back. Dawson

648
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Baker's approved to come back. Canard Davis Junior is a junior,

649
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,240
so he should hopefully come back, right, you hope so?

650
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Zavian Stayton freshman, abdul Achmedy. I wonder how many of

651
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these guys get pushed out.

652
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be something I'm getting at.

653
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Speaker 4: At least three to four. I think we have to

654
00:34:08,119 --> 00:34:10,119
be realistic, right, Ben. I think we can't sit here

655
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and say, oh, yeah, they're gonna keep all these guys

656
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,239
like No, I think Dawson's a lock. I think Nate

657
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Pickens is a lock. Right. I think if you're looking

658
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whether Rob stays or goes, Ben, I think Kevin Young

659
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has learned this lesson of you need dep at the

660
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ball handler position. So I'm gonna say, based on that,

661
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whether you keep Rob or not, Dawson and Nate will stay.

662
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I think they'll go get another person. So I'm gonna

663
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say those guys are both the locks. They have kept

664
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their spot. I think you'll keep Kadeen right because he's

665
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been on the roster, but I mean out of Dominique

666
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Tyler Alexi. Look, I'm being real I'm not even trying

667
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to be rude. I think even Canard. I would hope

668
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Canard would stay, but I think just the way he

669
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shot Ben, I think that I think all of those

670
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guys are gonna be a due to do they get

671
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pushed out, you know, even Xavion. Like I'm being honest

672
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when I said no, people don't think that's crazy of me.

673
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But you have to show up in your minutes, any

674
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of your time. I think I could see them keeping Alexi,

675
00:34:57,039 --> 00:34:58,760
you know, because they want garb deb and he hits

676
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,199
some shots. But Ty on the chopping block, you know,

677
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Dominikis is a bunch of guys been, I think, and

678
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I hope I'm wrong. I hope all these guys stay.

679
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But I think Kevin Young is realizing you need by

680
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you guys. That's why I think Brody's safe, Dawson safe,

681
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,239
uh Nate safe, and I think kadeem safe. I think

682
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those are the only four people you can for sure

683
00:35:16,519 --> 00:35:17,920
say that are safe because I and you don't know

684
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what it's up in there with Rob. I don't know

685
00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:21,920
if Rob stays or goes, but those five I think stay,

686
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and I think on top of that, they're gonna go

687
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and figure out the rest with everybody MB do. Of course,

688
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I think they're gonna keep the shot blocker at the six,

689
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and then kJ Perry there's your seven been so I

690
00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:33,000
think those are the seven that stay, and then outside

691
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of that, I think you're gonna have four guys that

692
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are gonna do. The future will be decided by the portal.

693
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I do believe that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really wonder how patient we are in developing

695
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basketball players and getting them to buy in to the

696
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ky b YU way, right, Like, I really wonder that because,

697
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,199
like Dallen hall Is is kind of an interesting study

698
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,960
for me. It is Dallen wanted probably more, maybe more

699
00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:04,039
playing time, want to spot, I think, yeah, And so

700
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I understand that he ends up at Virginia and thus

701
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,679
far this season, I think he's had a solid year.

702
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He's played in twenty three games and he started twenty

703
00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:15,440
three games, twenty eight minutes per game.

704
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Speaker 1: He's shooting. It's not like his numbers any better than

705
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what they were at Buing.

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Speaker 4: Fact, just wasn't going to get that time. He wasn't

707
00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:22,480
gonna get that time on the cordio Ben.

708
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,079
Speaker 3: Well, Yeah, I mean he got twenty five minutes per game.

709
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:27,440
So he's getting three more minutes per game and he

710
00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:33,079
has the starter role. Yeah, he's shooting four percent from

711
00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:35,960
the field, thirty one point three percent from the three

712
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,559
point line. So a little bit of a dip there

713
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:40,039
because he's probably having to be the primary ball handler,

714
00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:44,000
which he is in Virginia, right, And he's not necessarily

715
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,639
necessarily a I mean, he's okay in is in his

716
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:54,280
shot I think development, but he's not a great off

717
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,639
the bounce score in my opinion, you know, create his

718
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:58,320
own shots.

719
00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's more of a catch and shoot guy.

720
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 3: And that's probably why he's at thirty one point three

721
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,880
percent from the three point line if he's not getting

722
00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:09,960
set set three point shots. Now he has improved from

723
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,559
the charity stripe eighty percent there, he's got, yeah, he's

724
00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:18,920
got Yeah, he's got three point seven rebounds per game,

725
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:21,719
four point two assists, are still distributing and rebounding wealth.

726
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,679
At six foot four hundred and ninety seven pound frame,

727
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:26,719
he's got a good body, uh, body composition, et cetera.

728
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:31,440
But you know who would help BYU more this year

729
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:33,719
is what I'm getting at. That's a b YU type

730
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,480
of guy. Would it have been Dallen Hall? Jake Wahlleen

731
00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:40,280
who's currently with Clemson, Or would it be a guy

732
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,880
like Tanner Toulsen at TCU. You know what I mean,

733
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,280
because these are all guys that we're at BYU at

734
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:51,760
one point that could be role players there, starters or

735
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,280
role players at their respective school.

736
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: I think actually all of them are.

737
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,639
Speaker 3: Actually Tanner's coming off the bas six man though, Yeah,

738
00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:03,960
y six man. I believe he is the starter. Yeah,

739
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,320
he started in twenty three games. So they're starters for

740
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:14,239
their respective schools at Clemson and at Virginia and and look,

741
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,760
they probably want to be starters.

742
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 1: But do you think Bay you could have acquired.

743
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 3: Them with the vision of doing something special too right

744
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,280
and and and also allocating proper resources to them.

745
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 4: No, because of the roles. I'm gonna straight up say that.

746
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,239
And I think that's why all of them didn't.

747
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 3: That's why they had to go That's why basketball had

748
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,639
to go out and find because players that were willing

749
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,199
to be role players.

750
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 4: Yes, because Dallan's getting paid more, Jakes getting paid more,

751
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,960
you know, and Tanner's getting paid more, all for their roles. Now,

752
00:38:50,199 --> 00:38:52,800
Tanner Tilson's probably the only argument you could pay that

753
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,519
guy to be in a six man row. That's it.

754
00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:57,039
But here's the thing, and and look, you have to

755
00:38:57,119 --> 00:38:58,800
maybe say that it's an and I'll go this far

756
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,800
Ben right now until at this point in time February ninth.

757
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,440
I'm not saying for the season because it's not done,

758
00:39:03,679 --> 00:39:05,280
but at this moment in time, Ben, as we speak

759
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,400
on this family home edition of Cougar Sports, it was

760
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,679
a mistake to let the Plain City native go. It

761
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,159
was because guess what those numbers would help, because Kanar

762
00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:16,519
could go to the bench, and then that would help

763
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,119
this offense move because you'd have a guy that can

764
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:21,280
attack the basket to rob and you have a pass

765
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,280
guy that would help you'd be able to do that,

766
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,760
and they don't have that. And it's just the fact

767
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,239
of the matter. I don't care what no one says.

768
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,400
When I look at the tape, that's what they lack.

769
00:39:29,559 --> 00:39:32,079
They miss and we are having I look at Twitter, Ban,

770
00:39:32,159 --> 00:39:34,920
I trust the fran for Shillis, I trust you know,

771
00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:37,920
the Jeff Borzell. I trust these guys, the Myronmtcalfs that

772
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,039
are seeing this, that have been riding for a long time,

773
00:39:40,119 --> 00:39:42,760
and these coaches that break down the game, that see this.

774
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,400
They've been saying it, and they're saying it, and Byu

775
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:48,039
was struggling with that, and I think, I don't think

776
00:39:48,039 --> 00:39:49,880
you need both in Yegor's balling in the NBA, so

777
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,320
he had to go Ben. But Dallen Hall could help

778
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,800
this team tremendously, and I think he was on the team.

779
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,599
I even stand, I'll stand. I stand by my take.

780
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,440
I'm not saying that they would have bench Raw, but

781
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,239
in that Oklahoma State game, when the young guy, the

782
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,480
young guard who's talented can't get it done, you've been

783
00:40:04,519 --> 00:40:06,679
able to maybe sub him out, who's having not necessarily

784
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,119
a bad game, but struggling with the ball. You bring

785
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,519
in the guy that's been around a little bit, that

786
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,519
understands the moment, that's a senior that isn't gonna be

787
00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:16,320
the moment won't be too big for him, and he's

788
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,039
gonna be able to slow the offense down, get the

789
00:40:18,119 --> 00:40:20,639
ball to AJ and move guys and go do what

790
00:40:20,679 --> 00:40:22,599
they do. I think they're missing two pieces. I think

791
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:24,159
they could use Fus and they could use Dallan.

792
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,679
Speaker 3: I think if you had two graduated though, these are

793
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,320
guys that saw at eligibility that you.

794
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 4: You don't know. Jack has a game though that FUS doesn't,

795
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:36,119
we might have to have that question. But do they

796
00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:39,199
are they missing a back to the basket big like

797
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,960
that might be a question. I know FOS is gradual,

798
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,719
but I'm just thinking of how it worked with that

799
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,400
second unit, a Dallan and a guy that could put

800
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,079
his back, that has a postgame, I think is what

801
00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:49,800
they're missing. But from what we have, Dallan Hall is

802
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,000
I think the bigger piece out of all of them,

803
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:54,719
But Tanner is probably their best get because of maybe

804
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,559
an Il allocations and roll. I thought that probably that

805
00:40:57,639 --> 00:40:59,239
probably is who they probably could have added to the right.

806
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,039
Speaker 3: I mean, like my favorite out of these three, with

807
00:41:02,199 --> 00:41:04,639
knowing what we had coming back, it was actually Jake

808
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,199
Qualeen because he's sixty ten, two hundred and fifteen pounds

809
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,760
and he's a stretch four with Is Jake Waaleen better

810
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:12,920
than Mihilo bucket bitch?

811
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,039
Speaker 1: Yes at this moment, you know what I mean?

812
00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:21,079
Speaker 3: So like know what you have and and I think

813
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:26,519
a strategic acquisition of Jake Quaaleen uh this offseason would

814
00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:28,639
have been extremely beneficial.

815
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: That's my personal opinion.

816
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,039
Speaker 4: So Who's my question is who are we going to?

817
00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:33,320
Who is b are you going to do out of

818
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,519
the starting lineup to put him in?

819
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 6: No?

820
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 3: No, no, I don't know if Jake would would necessarily.

821
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:40,440
I don't think you have to tell him, hey, you're there,

822
00:41:40,519 --> 00:41:42,360
you're you're a starter.

823
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 4: But is he going to take that and come off

824
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:44,800
the bettle?

825
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,599
Speaker 3: No? I think so it depends on how you want

826
00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:52,199
to go about your your starting lineup, right, Like, do

827
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:53,239
you want shooters?

828
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:59,679
Speaker 1: Do you want scores? You know, there's obviously uh an issue.

829
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:02,599
Speaker 3: With that with scoring as well as defense right now

830
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,960
versus high level teams out Granted, we're going to get

831
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,400
his high level teams here, we're going to get.

832
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: Some of the best in the Big Twelve and the

833
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,039
best in college basketball.

834
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 3: As Brett Hammer brought up, it's like b Will's played

835
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,280
the top three of the top six of the eight

836
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,400
pe pole and if you look at Ken Palm, it's

837
00:42:18,639 --> 00:42:22,320
pretty similar to that as well. So you're playing elite

838
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:28,119
teams and and it's you begin to nitpick.

839
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,639
Speaker 4: A little bit, Well, that's what we're doing. We're nitpicking

840
00:42:29,679 --> 00:42:31,840
right now, We're totally we're totally nitpicking. We're not We're

841
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,920
doing nitpicking because that's what it is. And look, maybe

842
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,880
Jake does fit and I'd ask you a question because

843
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,079
it's one of your thoughts. But like its positionless basketball,

844
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,320
Hadem is six y nine and Kevin all likes to

845
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,239
being big. Who's to say Jake couldn't be in the

846
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:47,280
start lineup right? He very well could. It's tough because

847
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,119
I'm gonna say this, all three of those guys could

848
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:51,480
be utilized on this roster right now and whatever the

849
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:53,719
role is, and it would help. And that is the

850
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,519
type of depth that you need. And that's the question

851
00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:57,920
for the offseason is do you go get guys like that?

852
00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:00,360
Do you go load up on you know, and maybe

853
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,320
instead of you know, paying between three guys, do you

854
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,840
pay two and then you allocate between two other Like

855
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,480
I hate to go Oklahoma City thunder status been, but

856
00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:10,400
look at the depth they have. I mean, Shay Gill

857
00:43:10,519 --> 00:43:12,719
just doesn't play the other night and they Isaiah Joe,

858
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,480
they got the body after body. You might have to

859
00:43:15,519 --> 00:43:17,360
go there. And I think that's why Houston's been so great.

860
00:43:17,559 --> 00:43:20,199
You have to have multitudes of guys that can come

861
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,559
off and do the same thing. And right now I

862
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:22,800
think they're searching for that. Still.

863
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess how much better would this team be

864
00:43:26,119 --> 00:43:30,559
if Dawson bakerus was healthy? Right, Like, it's hard to

865
00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:34,280
account for injuries. You really much better are we with

866
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,840
Nate Pickens? And did you actually go out and buy

867
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,320
damage goods. I don't know about his injury, but I

868
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,559
don't know if it was sustained prior or during or

869
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,880
you know, after the acquisition, et cetera.

870
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,039
Speaker 4: But it was after the acquisition. I think it was

871
00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:52,320
a couple of weeks before the season. Yeah, so it's unfortunate.

872
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:55,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to account for those things. You feel

873
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,920
for this basketball team, there's no doubt they're knocking on

874
00:43:58,079 --> 00:44:00,880
the door. They have to put two halves together. You

875
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,000
can't go down seventeen to twenty points in the first

876
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,559
first half consistently like this, Can.

877
00:44:05,559 --> 00:44:07,039
Speaker 4: I be honest? I think they're two and three in

878
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:09,519
this stretch, Ben, I I still give them the loss

879
00:44:09,519 --> 00:44:11,679
of the Yukon because Dawson Baker was still there. But

880
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,480
at home when you're searching, Ben, they've gone in the

881
00:44:14,599 --> 00:44:16,920
mud the last five minutes with no scoring. And we

882
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,760
can say this too the game that went into overtime

883
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,639
against Utah, who did they give the ball to the tie?

884
00:44:21,679 --> 00:44:25,079
It same with Baylor, Dawson, Baker, they're missing that production.

885
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,840
They are. You can say what you want, even with

886
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,800
Nate on the floor, one of those two guys, and

887
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,519
defensively it helps to Ben. I don't think they go

888
00:44:32,679 --> 00:44:34,559
perfect undefeated, but I think they'd been able to get

889
00:44:34,559 --> 00:44:36,920
Arizona and I think they'd been able to come with

890
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,199
that Oklahoma State game. And Ben, if you do that

891
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,199
and you lose the Kansas on the road, and you

892
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,360
lose the Texas Tech and you lose to Houston, no

893
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,639
one cares because you beat the number one team in

894
00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:49,039
the country on your home floor in a very close ballgame,

895
00:44:49,079 --> 00:44:51,119
you had a great comeback and need to beat Oklahoma State.

896
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,000
And you're not having this discussion. You're like, all right,

897
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,480
you just got to go get right against Baylor and

898
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,199
went out. But that's not the case. But I firmly

899
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,440
believe that in that stretch of games with a BYU,

900
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,159
they'd have been like two and three or two and four.

901
00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:05,480
And I think that's where veteran guards because Nate's and

902
00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:07,480
older guard right been a lot of college experienced a

903
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,719
lot of minutes. Dawson, a lot of minutes you missed

904
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,239
those minutes you missed that experience. So you're asking a

905
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,719
young guy and Rob Wright to play thirty seven minutes

906
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,559
a night and go get it done, and he's doing

907
00:45:16,599 --> 00:45:18,159
the best he can. In my opinion.

908
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: Jeff Goodman, I want to say this last week called

909
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,519
b YU fraudulent BYU Basketball.

910
00:45:27,199 --> 00:45:31,199
Speaker 1: Are they fraudulent? That's pretty strong verbiage.

911
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, we actually played this sound last week. And what

912
00:45:33,159 --> 00:45:36,920
he's talking about is in reference to them being Final four. Yeah,

913
00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:40,920
and I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with that, that that rhetoric.

914
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,440
I say yes in regards to Final Four, but you

915
00:45:43,559 --> 00:45:47,440
also have to take into perspective. They didn't expect to

916
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,480
have these injuries. They expected to have their full roster.

917
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,559
Every other team even with Darren Ben Peterson going in

918
00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:54,480
and out, they have their full line. A lot of

919
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:57,880
teams have their full lineup Houston, everybody's locked and loaded.

920
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,880
I think b AU might be one of the only

921
00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:03,679
teams been playing right now that had Final four aspirations

922
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,320
that does this hurt? This bad like that has this

923
00:46:06,519 --> 00:46:09,880
many injuries and it's unfortunate, but that's basketball. Everybody goes

924
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,039
through their fresh air. Maybe that's why people keep talking

925
00:46:12,039 --> 00:46:14,559
about depth, but it's a lesson, But yeah, I think

926
00:46:14,599 --> 00:46:19,159
this might be the most injured Final four aspirations team

927
00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:21,159
that I've seen in a little bit been in my opinion.

928
00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 3: Didn't Rostein also say when he came out and evaluated

929
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,199
BYU in the offseason, his biggest question mark was he

930
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,400
said this, When I went to practice in Provo in

931
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,280
the summer, the biggest thing I took away after watching

932
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,800
practice was I did not know if BYU had enough

933
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,760
depth and enough option outside of its primary three guys.

934
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,960
And I think now what we're seeing is that come

935
00:46:46,039 --> 00:46:51,199
to fruition. So you still need a team, guys, not

936
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,519
just three guys, not just the brig three. If you

937
00:46:53,639 --> 00:46:56,639
want to get to get past the Sweet sixteen, get

938
00:46:56,679 --> 00:47:01,119
into an Elite eight and maybe possitively hopefully fingers crossed

939
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,079
a Final four. Get that monkey off our back.

940
00:47:04,639 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: Guys.

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Do it best you get some additional value. As we've

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been giving away for repeats on the air. I think

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we got some other deals as well. Ask about him.

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IP service, Vppy discounts and oh final thing here, my

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guy Keith said, big issue, okay, when we're talking about

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doallon hall, big issue was money. I'm told Haull got

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a lot of money, a lot of money, maybe above

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a millie AJ got optionally the money Richie got money.

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Speaker 1: Rob got money. Question is is would we.

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Speaker 3: Be better getting four guys at at a little less

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than what we paid maybe Rob, because you knew Richie

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was gonna get paid. You had to pay Richie. He's

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a guy, he's a dude, and he's earned it. AJ's

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obviously gonna get his. The question is are you better off, uh,

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you know, paying you know two guys maybe or three

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guys maybe with rather than giving it all to Rob.

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Speaker 4: That's what I just mentioned Ben. Thank you Keith for listening.

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Appreciate them, always tuned into the program. I said, maybe

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don't pay that third guy. You split between two, and

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you said four guys, And look, I think that might

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be the way next year. I'm gonna be honest. And yeah,

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look and we said that been all these guys that

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are starting at these other places are getting paid. Wallen's

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getting paid, Dallan's getting paid. You're not gonna pay a

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guy like that to come off the bench is just logic,

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but he might be a factor. The guy that Japan

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is the third guy, should that he had been paid

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or should you split that up? It's the same thing

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that NFL teams deal with all the time, being NBA guys,

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should you have gone gotten gone? God more depth, I

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don't know, but right now it's not working out. They

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still got eight games. We'll see what they do. But

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where it's leaning to right now is that you need

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to maybe have your two guys, you know, and then

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you go pay, you go split it between kind of

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like Houston doing. You got Kingston Fleming, you got Snack

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Junior