Speaker 1: Welcome to the Big Blue and sider Dick Abriel with
Speaker 1: you on a Thursday edition of our program. Coming up tonight.
Speaker 1: We'll talk a lot of football, and we'll listen a
Speaker 1: lot to Jeremy Jarman of the UK Sports Network. He
Speaker 1: will join us at the bottom of our number one
Speaker 1: here and looking forward to hearing what Jeremy has to say,
Speaker 1: of course about the Georgia game and about the upcoming
Speaker 1: Ohio You game, which you will hear right here on
Speaker 1: six point thirty wlap Jeremy and Christy and Logan Stenberg,
Speaker 1: like the rest of us up early, they may have
Speaker 1: to get up a little earlier, although no one's going
Speaker 1: to get up earlier than the tailgaters because a lot
Speaker 1: of folks like the tailgate in the morning, and they
Speaker 1: will be doing just that at Kroger Field ten thirty
Speaker 1: Pregame Show twelve forty five kickoff for the Wildcats and
Speaker 1: the Bobcats, who will be playing Believe it or Not
Speaker 1: for only the seventh time, and believe it or not,
Speaker 1: the first time they played, Ohio You came down here
Speaker 1: and won. That's right back in nineteen seventy one. They
Speaker 1: came down and I guess it was an upset beat
Speaker 1: John Ray's Wildcats and then didn't come back for another
Speaker 1: sixteen years when Jerry Clayburn's team led by Dermani, Dawson
Speaker 1: and a lot of talented guys who ended up in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Of course, Dermani ended up in the Football
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, the Pro Football Hall of Fame. They
Speaker 1: avenged that loss with a first victory in that series.
Speaker 1: But you recall in the Rich Brooks are Ohio you
Speaker 1: came up and spoiled homecoming back in twenty oh four.
Speaker 1: Dermani remembers that game for us. We'll hear from him
Speaker 1: on the show tomorrow and he will actually open our
Speaker 1: broadcast with another one of our celebrity monologues that we
Speaker 1: have used this year to open the broadcasts. We of
Speaker 1: course did Rich Brooks last week, Jojo Kemp for the
Speaker 1: South Carolina game, Bill Ransdell for the open season opener
Speaker 1: with Southern Miss and by the way, congratulations to Bill
Speaker 1: and his lovely wife Deidre for a successful opening. Here
Speaker 1: is an unsolicited plug for two fisted Willies over on
Speaker 1: Woodland Avenue. It's where the Library Lounge used to be.
Speaker 1: Bill and Dedre getting back into the pub business is
Speaker 1: not really a pub, it's a bar. There's not food available,
Speaker 1: but it's a great spot. It's got a rooftop availability
Speaker 1: and it's a lot of fun and they did a
Speaker 1: great job of it. So go check it out. And
Speaker 1: again unsolicited, but went to their opening last night. We
Speaker 1: appreciate Cindy and I being invited. So anyhow, DERMANI Dawson
Speaker 1: will open up this broadcast and we'll hear his thoughts
Speaker 1: tomorrow on the Football wildcast, So you need to be there.
Speaker 1: Of course, it'll be on the SEC network, but have
Speaker 1: your radio handy for Tom Leech, Jeff Pecorrel and yours
Speaker 1: truly coming up. Also tonight, we're going to hear from
Speaker 1: dan Orlovski of the NFL Network talking hot dogs. That's
Speaker 1: all I'm gonna tell you. He has just really interesting
Speaker 1: takes and he has also been quoted as saying he
Speaker 1: likes how people lose their mind over the weird things
Speaker 1: he says, and he says a lot of weird stuff.
Speaker 1: But you may have seen him or heard him on
Speaker 1: the air. I think he's very good on the air
Speaker 1: and has had a longer NFL career than I thought
Speaker 1: he had. Most of you know him as the quarterback
Speaker 1: when he was with the Lions. Lost track of where
Speaker 1: he was, stepped out of bounds in the back of
Speaker 1: the end zone and cost his team a safety. But
Speaker 1: he's quite knowledgeable, opinionated, well spoken, which is why he's
Speaker 1: got a good TV career going. But he got into
Speaker 1: a discussion about hot dogs that I couldn't resist. So
Speaker 1: you hear that coming up in nour number two as
Speaker 1: well as West End Bureau chief Gary Moore. He will
Speaker 1: join us. He was not with us last night because
Speaker 1: of the UK volleyball broadcast, so we slide him over
Speaker 1: to Thursday. Volleyball didn't go as planned for the Wildcats.
Speaker 1: They lost to Louisville in Memorial Coliseum three to one.
Speaker 1: The final dropped the first two sets, then took the
Speaker 1: next one, and then dropped the third. Really, they weren't
Speaker 1: even in the third one after the early stages, so
Speaker 1: Ubill put to Kentucky on its own floor. So the
Speaker 1: Wildcats still learning lessons and they will learn another one
Speaker 1: good or bad. Well, they're all good if you take
Speaker 1: something away from them. But it's gonna be tough because Saturday, Man,
Speaker 1: what a schedule. The Wildcats play at Stanford, which is
Speaker 1: second ranked in the country right now, but is gonna
Speaker 1: be really steamed because last night lost at Nebraska three zip.
Speaker 1: So Stanford is gonna be ready. The Cardinal will have
Speaker 1: the coaches will have the complete attention of their players
Speaker 1: in practice for the rest of the week. So it's
Speaker 1: Kentucky and Stanford. I believe they'll be on the ACC
Speaker 1: network on Saturday night. It's a ten thirty start. She'll
Speaker 1: be well rested. After that Kentucky football game. The Wildcats
Speaker 1: will try to match what they did, of course against Georgia.
Speaker 1: What a great defensive effort for Kentucky starting up front.
Speaker 1: Somebody asks Brad Whiteley last night about the fact that
Speaker 1: even though Dion Walker is getting double and triple teamed,
Speaker 1: he seems to be producing well for the Cats because
Speaker 1: it frees up as we've said all year everybody else.
Speaker 1: And Brad white said, yeah, he's pleased with what Dion
Speaker 1: is doing and what the guys up front have been doing.
Speaker 2: You know, his versatility, you know his ability to play
Speaker 2: on third down and nickel and you know he makes
Speaker 2: two you know, knocks down the first third down, you know,
Speaker 2: tips the ball and then he was coming around that
Speaker 2: forced a bad ball in the third down in the
Speaker 2: red zone. You know that they weren't able to hit
Speaker 2: the check down, you know, so no, I think are
Speaker 2: all the defensive front right now they're playing good. They're
Speaker 2: playing good football. I think we're affecting the QB. You know,
Speaker 2: when it's time to get after the quarterback, and so
Speaker 2: we need to continue to keep that up.
Speaker 1: I thought it was great that Brad talked about his
Speaker 1: versatility and leaving him in on passing downs what doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily and he's going to drop back in coverage as
Speaker 1: he did last year when he begged to drop back
Speaker 1: in coverage and help force that crucial interception against the
Speaker 1: Florida Gators. But the fact that he is such a
Speaker 1: great athlete, is so quick and nimble that they can
Speaker 1: leave him in. They don't have to sub him out
Speaker 1: on passing downs. That, of course, is one of the
Speaker 1: reasons why the other teams have to account for him
Speaker 1: every time. So you gotta hope he can be as
Speaker 1: disruptive on Saturday against Ohio. You coming up will take
Speaker 1: a look at a milestone in TV history. The show
Speaker 1: didn't start out that way, but it turned out to
Speaker 1: be one of the all time greats in my opinion,
Speaker 1: and at the bottom of the hour, of course, Jeremy
Speaker 1: Jarman of the UK Radio Network. I re number two
Speaker 1: West End Bureau Chief Gary Moore here on the Big
Speaker 1: Bloom Sider six point thirty WLAP. Welcome back to Gabriel
Speaker 1: with you on a Thursday. Coming up in just a
Speaker 1: few minutes Jeremy Jarman or the UK Sports Network, we'll
Speaker 1: look back at the Georgia game and of course preview
Speaker 1: the upcoming contest with those Ohio Bobcats. A couple of
Speaker 1: notes off the interweb. John Gruden once back in. That's right,
Speaker 1: once back into football, which is not a surprise, but
Speaker 1: you might be surprised at how active he has been.
Speaker 1: And I don't just mean his YouTube channel. He does
Speaker 1: interviews there, breaks down video. But he talked to cbssports
Speaker 1: dot com the other day. Evidently he's been an advisor
Speaker 1: for the New Orleans Saints or are doing pretty well
Speaker 1: and apparently was a candidate for their offensive coordinator job
Speaker 1: that went to Clint Kubiak. Didn't get that job, so
Speaker 1: became an advisor to the Milano Semen of the European
Speaker 1: League of Football. I knew they played American style of
Speaker 1: football in Italy, but I did not know that there
Speaker 1: was a European League of football anyhow. He also worked
Speaker 1: with the Kansas City Chiefs coaching staff in training camp
Speaker 1: and says he would like to come back to college football.
Speaker 1: He has an ongoing legal battle with the NFL. He
Speaker 1: accused the Commissioner, Roger Goodell, of orchestrating the leak that
Speaker 1: tarnished his reputation. Of course, this was the deal where
Speaker 1: they during the investigation into the Washington Commander's workplace misconduct,
Speaker 1: it came to light his offensive emails, some racist things
Speaker 1: that he said, and he claims that the NFL leaked
Speaker 1: them in order to damage his reputation. NFL of course
Speaker 1: has denied it, but it's still tied up in legal machinations.
Speaker 1: But he said I am interested in coaching. He told
Speaker 1: that the cbssports dot Com reminded them that his dad
Speaker 1: was a college coach. He coached, of course at Pitts.
Speaker 1: And my wife was a cheerleader at Tennessee when I
Speaker 1: met her. That's why when Tennessee had some openings a
Speaker 1: few years ago, everybody kept saying, Oh, it's going to
Speaker 1: be Gruden, hands down done. Deal, done deal, It's going
Speaker 1: to be John Gruden. But a group of five athletic
Speaker 1: director told CBS Sports that in the current climate, this
Speaker 1: person said they would interview Gruden, but one SEC football
Speaker 1: administrator called him untouchable. But remember, now, Hugh Freeze made
Speaker 1: it come back. Bobby Petrino made it come back in
Speaker 1: the SEC. So we may yet see Gruden at some point.
Speaker 1: But I've not heard anything publicly about him, and I've
Speaker 1: not heard him say much about what took him out
Speaker 1: of football, except that the NFL is guilty of leaking it.
Speaker 1: Don't know that at all, one way or the other.
Speaker 1: But keep an eye on that. One. Also keep an
Speaker 1: eye on urban Meyer, but he said that's a waste
Speaker 1: of time. People are trying to link him, of course,
Speaker 1: to what may soon be an opening at Florida. Would
Speaker 1: they rehire urban Meyer? Would he be interested in coming
Speaker 1: back to college football? An absolute disaster with the Jacksonville Jaguars,
Speaker 1: but after a lot of success in Gainsville and in Columbus, Ohio,
Speaker 1: he is now on television making a lot of money,
Speaker 1: and he has said no. He has said in terms
Speaker 1: of him in college football, he said that ship has sailed.
Speaker 1: He said, I want that program, meaning Florida to do
Speaker 1: well so badly said, I know so many people there
Speaker 1: gave a big part of our life to that program,
Speaker 1: he said. But that ship has sailed. But that won't
Speaker 1: stop people from floading rumors now, will it. Interesting reaction
Speaker 1: to Adrian or Janowski's announcement that he is retiring from
Speaker 1: ESPN and the news industry. He is so well respected
Speaker 1: and this was a huge shock to the sports world,
Speaker 1: to ESPN, to sports journalists in general. He has been
Speaker 1: at it for nearly four decades and he's the man.
Speaker 1: But he has left. And to me, what's fascinating as
Speaker 1: well is where he's going. He's going back to his
Speaker 1: alma mater, St. Bonav Venture, which is in a tiny
Speaker 1: town in upstate New York, Olean, New York. I have
Speaker 1: never been there. Jeff Picorol has been there. He did
Speaker 1: a ballgame up there, a basketball game on television, and
Speaker 1: evidently and the woman who is in charge of sports
Speaker 1: information for UK basketball, Deb Moore, is in a lum
Speaker 1: of Saint Bonnie's, and people who have been there say
Speaker 1: it's just tremendous and apparently Woje as they call him,
Speaker 1: is really, really devoted to his alma mater so much
Speaker 1: though that he's leaving. Here's what he makes at ESPN,
Speaker 1: about twenty million a year walking away from that job
Speaker 1: covering the NBA. He is the top NBA insider, only
Speaker 1: fifty five years old, a lot of time left to
Speaker 1: make money. But he's leaving for a huge pay cut,
Speaker 1: and he's going to basically be the general manager for
Speaker 1: the athletic department at Saint Bonavit Sure, which of course
Speaker 1: does not play football, but he would be in charge
Speaker 1: of raising nil money at his alma mater. Now, if
Speaker 1: this guy's as smart as I think he is, he's
Speaker 1: got a lot of money socked away, so he'll be fine.
Speaker 1: And he's not going for cheap to Saint Bonnie's. But
Speaker 1: he ain't making no twenty million dollars. We know this,
Speaker 1: but boy, it is really kind of touching. I don't
Speaker 1: know the guy at all to see the reaction that
Speaker 1: people have had as he steps away from ESPN, and again,
Speaker 1: a reputation that is unmatched when it comes to covering
Speaker 1: the NBA. Quick note about an anniversary. First of all,
Speaker 1: belieated Happy birthday, Rick Patino. His birthday was yesterday, and
Speaker 1: also I think it was either yesterday or today, forty
Speaker 1: six years ago that a TV show that became more
Speaker 1: popular in reruns than it was when it was on
Speaker 1: the air first hit the airwaves. And it's something near
Speaker 1: and dear to the hearts of all of us who
Speaker 1: have made a living in and around commercial radio. If
Speaker 1: you have one Dude, one Dude game the air in Cincinnati, Cincinnati, WKR, yeah,
Speaker 1: those of us who have worked in the business. I
Speaker 1: found it and reruns like a lot of people when
Speaker 1: I was in radio. I don't think I watched it
Speaker 1: when it was first on, but yeah, anybody who's been
Speaker 1: in the business will tell you, sir, it's not entirely accurate.
Speaker 1: They don't wear headphones and all that. But the characters
Speaker 1: are basically representative of every kind of person, it seems
Speaker 1: who worked in AM radio. We all know somebody who
Speaker 1: was like at least one or more of those people
Speaker 1: who worked at the station at WKRP. And what's interesting
Speaker 1: is the opening credits of the first episode highlighted only
Speaker 1: Gary Sandy, who played the program director, and he was
Speaker 1: kind of the straight man in that show, and he
Speaker 1: had come from a soap opera that's where he was
Speaker 1: best known, and Gordon jumped the station manager, mister Carlson,
Speaker 1: who was in a lot of different things. He was
Speaker 1: always a supporting player, but he played his role in
Speaker 1: this show just wonderfully. But Herb Tarlk the sales guy.
Speaker 1: Everybody knew a salesperson who kind of came on like that,
Speaker 1: and he wore those horrible, horrible plaid jackets. And somebody
Speaker 1: once said to him, Herb, I didn't think they made
Speaker 1: jackets like that anymore, and he said, yeah, you can
Speaker 1: get him across the river on a pro shop in Kentucky,
Speaker 1: which I never forgot. Lonnie Anderson, the bombshell Blonde became
Speaker 1: a poster icon. It's just amazing how things took off.
Speaker 1: But doctor Johnny Fever, Howard Hessman, he had been in
Speaker 1: a lot of different things. He'd been a good guy,
Speaker 1: a bad guy, but whoever cast him got it right.
Speaker 1: And the backstory there was he was working at this
Speaker 1: small station in Cincinnati that was playing it was officially
Speaker 1: called beautiful music. We all knew it a was elevator music.
Speaker 1: And my experience with that was when I went to
Speaker 1: work at WVLK. Our competition now for the longest time,
Speaker 1: the FM station played beautiful music, elevator music, if you will,
Speaker 1: but it was extremely popular. They made lots of money advertising,
Speaker 1: but eventually the audience for that kind of music died out,
Speaker 1: literally and figuratively aged out. Basically people got older and
Speaker 1: older who liked that music, and the ratings showed that
Speaker 1: no new listeners were coming around. And that, my friends,
Speaker 1: is why they changed formats and went to country, and
Speaker 1: it became and again a competitor K ninety three, which
Speaker 1: gave rise to different country formats in this market. There
Speaker 1: was very little country music making an impact in this
Speaker 1: market until that happened. And now of course with our
Speaker 1: country station here ninety eight point one doing so well.
Speaker 1: But it goes back to that. But I remembered that
Speaker 1: because the very opening show, with the scene where they
Speaker 1: changed formats, they bring in Gary Sandy's character. He has
Speaker 1: brought into program Rock and Rolls. This is back, of
Speaker 1: course in the seventies on an AM station and Howard
Speaker 1: Hesman's character who was asleep literally at the switch, leaning
Speaker 1: on his arm, going by Johnny Caravello. And remember he
Speaker 1: had a coffee mug with all these different names he
Speaker 1: had used on the air throughout his career, and he
Speaker 1: wanted Gary Sandy's character wanted Johnny to be the rock
Speaker 1: and roll DJ, and they showed doctor Johnny Fever giving
Speaker 1: rise the scene where he switches from beautiful music to
Speaker 1: rock and roll, smashes one record, puts on another one,
Speaker 1: and at the last second comes up with the name
Speaker 1: doctor Johnny Fever. Is TV history, all right, Cincinnati, It
Speaker 1: is time for this time to get down.
Speaker 3: You Johnny, doctor john f Fever, and I am burning.
Speaker 1: Up in here.
Speaker 4: Look we all in critical condition, baby is.
Speaker 1: But you can tell me where it hurts because I
Speaker 1: got the healing prescription here from the.
Speaker 3: Big Karp Musical Medicine Cabinet.
Speaker 5: Now I am talking about your fifty thousand what intensive.
Speaker 1: Carry unit, babies, So just sit right.
Speaker 5: Down, relax, open your ears real wide, and say give
Speaker 5: it to me straight doctor.
Speaker 4: I can take it almost god though, babies.
Speaker 1: By the way, I left that part out. Johnny Fever
Speaker 1: had been relegated to the station in Cincinnati because he
Speaker 1: had accidentally said booger on the air at another station.
Speaker 1: So the next thing you know, he's doing overnights in Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: and the program director gave him permission to say booger.
Speaker 1: Which is why he said it when he played that
Speaker 1: first album, that first rock and roll album, and he
Speaker 1: was dancing around the news room having a big time.
Speaker 1: And of course the probably the most famous episode was
Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving episode that gave rise to as God Is
Speaker 1: My Witness. We thought turkeys could fly. That's the one
Speaker 1: everybody remembers. There are t shirts and you know Les
Speaker 1: Nessman describing how the turkeys were hitting the ground like
Speaker 1: sacks of wet cement. That was just brilliant, brilliant television.
Speaker 1: Hard to believe it was forty six years ago for
Speaker 1: WKRP in Cincinnati, but those of us in radio, Hugh Wilson,
Speaker 1: who created the show, we salute you, including the opening
Speaker 1: credits with all the scenes in and around downtown Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: was just tremendous and I do appreciate it all right.
Speaker 1: When we come back. Jeremy Jarman now a radio star,
Speaker 1: talking about the football Cats here on six thirty WLAP
Speaker 1: is double JS and three two one joining us on
Speaker 1: our Celebrity Hotline. One of our favorite guests, one of
Speaker 1: our favorite people, my pal, Jeremy Jarmon. You hear him
Speaker 1: on our pregame coverage with Christy Thomas and Logan Stenberg.
Speaker 1: How's that Stenberg guy working out? He's an old lineman, Jeremy.
Speaker 1: But you're you're carrying him along, aren't you.
Speaker 3: No, Stenny's holding his own, no pun intended their game.
Speaker 3: He's He's been so.
Speaker 4: Fun to work with and getting to meet him him
Speaker 4: and getting to know him a little bit. And he
Speaker 4: and I we have conversations throughout the week, a lot
Speaker 4: of text message extames between he, Christy and I just
Speaker 4: about what we're seeing, you know, film study and sharing
Speaker 4: clips and you know, exits and those stuff.
Speaker 3: So it's been fun. Man.
Speaker 1: Now he's doing a great job. He really is. Well,
Speaker 1: let us start with his position. That is old line.
Speaker 1: I thought, clearly against a team like Georgia, you run
Speaker 1: the ball the way Kentucky did that, that's a major
Speaker 1: jolt of confidence of nothing else right it.
Speaker 4: Is, and it just lets me know that those guys,
Speaker 4: in my opinion, gave They got back in the film room,
Speaker 4: and they got back in the playbook, and they got
Speaker 4: with Woolford, they got with Humden and they just played.
Speaker 4: In my opinion, they played a little faster, a little
Speaker 4: less thinking. And that was one of the things that
Speaker 4: Logan and I talked about on the pregame show, is
Speaker 4: that it just seemed like there was some play in
Speaker 4: the South Carolina game where the guys weren't as they
Speaker 4: they weren't moving as fast, not as efficient as as
Speaker 4: they were on some other plays. And as a former player,
Speaker 4: sometimes I feel like you can sense these things when
Speaker 4: the guys will be playing half a step too slow,
Speaker 4: and that's when you're doing a lot of thinking and
Speaker 4: uh and and and a little less reacting.
Speaker 1: You got to feel it, don't you. I don't care
Speaker 1: what sport you're playing, but if you have to think
Speaker 1: about putting one foot in front of the other, you're
Speaker 1: you're a step or two behind your opponent.
Speaker 4: Correct And football is a physical sport, but there's that
Speaker 4: mental piece, And the mental piece is is just understanding
Speaker 4: your scheme inside and out and being unfazed by any
Speaker 4: kind of stunts up front, by defensive lignment, any late shifts,
Speaker 4: and understanding what the core competency of this blocking scheme is.
Speaker 4: Because you know, that's the thing about offense is that
Speaker 4: every single play game, if blocked correctly, should be a touchdown.
Speaker 3: In the run game. You know people fail.
Speaker 4: To remember that, but yeah, if you block every person satisfactory.
Speaker 4: It's an explosive play at a minimum. And this offense
Speaker 4: is shown throughout the first three weeks that they're capable
Speaker 4: of being able to generate explosives in the run game.
Speaker 4: And it's not surprising to me because you have a
Speaker 4: veteran group of offensive linemen. You got some fifty year guys,
Speaker 4: six year guy you know at your left tackle position
Speaker 4: and cocks. We know that these guys are strong, we
Speaker 4: know that they're capable. So you know, where's the disconnect.
Speaker 4: Where the disconnect It has to be film room, It
Speaker 4: has to be understanding kind of that some of the
Speaker 4: blocking concepts, and that's to be expected when you have
Speaker 4: when you have your third offensive coordinator in the last
Speaker 4: three years, you got a new offensive line coach. It
Speaker 4: can't overcome all of these things in fall camp. You know,
Speaker 4: like camp creates that that element of adversity, It creates
Speaker 4: that simulation that's needed. But on game days, that's when
Speaker 4: offensive court or defensive coordinators are going to give our
Speaker 4: offensive line. They're going to give them new looks. They're
Speaker 4: going to give them stunts, they're going to give them shifts,
Speaker 4: they're going to give them different alignments. And man, it's
Speaker 4: you can't replicate, you can't simulate it all over the course.
Speaker 3: Of the week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can't really get to know the guy
Speaker 1: next day or the guy on either side, can.
Speaker 4: You you know? And and those are the things that
Speaker 4: those are the growing pains, but that you know, that's
Speaker 4: the that's the beauty of football is is that as
Speaker 4: you get to know and you get used to just
Speaker 4: kind of playing next to people and you talk about
Speaker 4: things in between series using the iPad on the sideline,
Speaker 4: that you're talking and you're learning okay about each other
Speaker 4: and what your capabilities are. You're talking, Hey, man, this
Speaker 4: guy's a little bit better than.
Speaker 3: I thought he was.
Speaker 4: Here's why this is what he's doing. Can you help
Speaker 4: a little bit longer? Can you help a little bit
Speaker 4: longer this time before you work up to the next level.
Speaker 4: These are the kind of intimate details that these guys
Speaker 4: are talking about on the sidelines in between series. After
Speaker 4: you know, a couple of run plays are unsuccessful, the.
Speaker 1: Question now is how much better can they get at
Speaker 1: passing blocking? Because they've sold me on their ability to
Speaker 1: run block. Really they block well in the run game
Speaker 1: against South Carolina, they just fell behind and had to
Speaker 1: go to the predictable passing. But you know, can they
Speaker 1: improve noticeably in pass blocking, which is obviously completely.
Speaker 4: Different, Dave, I'd like to think that we saw the
Speaker 4: best pass rushing team that we're going to see this season.
Speaker 3: You know I did.
Speaker 4: I hesitated to come out to say that, just because
Speaker 4: it's Week two. You hadn't had a chance to see
Speaker 4: everybody else. I know, Tennessee, they you know, they got
Speaker 4: a good pass rush. But the group of guys collectively,
Speaker 4: that South Carolina guy even there into your guy. Uh,
Speaker 4: you know, those guys are going to grade out extremely
Speaker 4: high and pass and pass rush defense this season. It
Speaker 4: will probably be the best pass rushing defensive line we
Speaker 4: will face. And if there is a better, if there
Speaker 4: is a team that's better than.
Speaker 3: Them, then than than Old Boy.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: But I think that, uh, I think that that gives
Speaker 4: us definitely gives us something to build on. And we
Speaker 4: saw South Carolina and what they were against you know
Speaker 4: LSU last week, l s U. You know, they started
Speaker 4: out well, but eventually uh, you know, the ship took
Speaker 4: on some started taking on some water there with that
Speaker 4: South Carolina pass rush.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again back to back. I mean you go
Speaker 1: from one to the other, you know, frying pan, meat fire. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: they've got to be learning, and it's it's not a
Speaker 1: bad thing if you're beaten on a play or if
Speaker 1: you're beating it anything any sports you're playing, if you're
Speaker 1: willing to learn from that. Right, Sometimes you learn more
Speaker 1: that way, don't you. I gotta think you do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes you definitely can learn learn more that way
Speaker 4: because everything's not learned in one place. You don't learn
Speaker 4: all your lessons on the field. Right when you get
Speaker 4: on the field and you start to think that you've
Speaker 4: seen at all the wrinkles. It's only through film study
Speaker 4: that you can anticipate things that maybe you haven't seen
Speaker 4: or things that you haven't practiced against, because you see
Speaker 4: how maybe another defense alignment or offensive alignment, how they
Speaker 4: how they dealt with something. So that that's the beauty
Speaker 4: of film studying us coming out and being able to
Speaker 4: being able to have a game plan. And I think
Speaker 4: that when you look on the defensive side of the
Speaker 4: ball gave when you look at some of the success
Speaker 4: that we had there, especially with our safeties in the
Speaker 4: past game, I mean, it just seemed like those guys
Speaker 4: had taken a step forward with just preparation.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, let us look back on that Georgia game
Speaker 1: a little bit before we talk about Dale. How are
Speaker 1: you game coming up? And let me get your take
Speaker 1: on the punt when Mark Stoops decided he would punt
Speaker 1: with three minutes to play, put the game in the
Speaker 1: hands of his defense. What was your reaction then, because
Speaker 1: a lot of people after the fact second guest him
Speaker 1: and then Stoop's second guesst himself obviously knowing what happened.
Speaker 1: But at the time, did you think that was the
Speaker 1: right move?
Speaker 4: I think I was frustrated like everyone else, But was
Speaker 4: it the right decision? I think that the data supports it,
Speaker 4: and not just the data, but I think that our
Speaker 4: defensive performance for that day supports that decision. So when
Speaker 4: and you know, you get a chance to possibly have
Speaker 4: them backed up with a return, you're looking at potentially
Speaker 4: given the offense, the ball somewhere close to midfield and
Speaker 4: you got to kick her. You got to kick her
Speaker 4: for that's four to four on the day, one of
Speaker 4: them being a fifty five yarder, and you know that
Speaker 4: you got to back up that. He's on record in
Speaker 4: practice of being able to kick somewhere between sixty and
Speaker 4: sixty five yards and all you need is three points.
Speaker 4: So you know, Mark played. He played the hot hand,
Speaker 4: which is, let's see if defense can get us a
Speaker 4: stop here and put us in position to kick a
Speaker 4: walk off field goal. And I can't I can't doubt
Speaker 4: him at all. I mean, you know, I mean the
Speaker 4: game plan that I guess, the productivity, and also you
Speaker 4: got to take into account that you know, offensively, we
Speaker 4: weren't moving them all the way that we would have liked.
Speaker 4: So you got to get the offense and opportunity, you know,
Speaker 4: based on the information that you have to be able
Speaker 4: to uh, you know, give yourself a chance there and
Speaker 4: all he felt that, uh that punting the ball and
Speaker 4: getting another stop was the best way.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Like I said, I always say, you know,
Speaker 1: second guests all you want, that's great, coach along. But
Speaker 1: if you second guess after the fact, and you had
Speaker 1: prior to the play, you haven't said to yourself, he
Speaker 1: should do extra y kind of makes it a little circumspect.
Speaker 1: But uh, it was that second down pass that made
Speaker 1: me scratch my head, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Now I will say this, if you go back
Speaker 4: and you look at the series, and I need to
Speaker 4: look at it again. If you know that this is
Speaker 4: likely that you're playing, that you're going to be playing
Speaker 4: for four downs, then we need to you know, then
Speaker 4: the offensive play calling, the offensive play calling should should
Speaker 4: try to reflect that. You know, are we trying to
Speaker 4: get you know, you know, first down, you want to
Speaker 4: try to stay ahead of the change. You don't want
Speaker 4: to be second and ten, So you try to pick
Speaker 4: up four or five yards, whether it's a run pass
Speaker 4: you know who cares, Yeah, And then second, you.
Speaker 3: Know, second down you're trying to you know, once.
Speaker 4: Again, second you know, two or three yards start down,
Speaker 4: and then fourth you should be standing at a fourth
Speaker 4: and one, fourth and two. That's a no brainer.
Speaker 1: Talking to Jeremy Jordan, go ahead now, I'm just.
Speaker 4: Going to say, you know, fourth to one and two,
Speaker 4: it's a no brainer. You're going for that, uh by
Speaker 4: fourtun seven? I mean, show show me where you know,
Speaker 4: show me where you feel confident about that based on
Speaker 4: the day with with the offensive productivity and just in
Speaker 4: general on film, a team moving the ball against George
Speaker 4: over the last few years that are successfully picking up
Speaker 4: fourth and sevens and fourth and eight.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a there's an old saying by a
Speaker 1: minute an Eastern philosopher, if you want to make the
Speaker 1: wrong decision, as everyone I think any coach in America,
Speaker 1: no matter what the sport, would would tack that up
Speaker 1: on the wall. Jeremy Jarman is my guest, the great
Speaker 1: former Kentucky defensive lineman. You hear him on our pregame covers.
Speaker 1: We'll come back and talk more football with Double Jays
Speaker 1: in just a minute here on the Big Blue Sider
Speaker 1: six thirty wlap. Welcome back. We're talking, of course Kentucky
Speaker 1: football with Jeremy Jarman, part of our pregame coverage with
Speaker 1: Christy Thomas and Logan Stenberg. Ohio. You coming up. And
Speaker 1: I know Tom Leech has probably used this term on
Speaker 1: his show this week, and I certainly have. It's a
Speaker 1: horse racing term where horses come off a great performance
Speaker 1: and don't race back to what they had shown the
Speaker 1: race prior. And that when you use the term bounce,
Speaker 1: there does a horse bounce the next race? I do wonder,
Speaker 1: and I worry, Jeremy, will Kentucky bounce going into this
Speaker 1: game because the emotional level of the fans clearly won't
Speaker 1: be the same, The stadium won't feel the same. How
Speaker 1: difficult is it? And you've been there to get yourself
Speaker 1: back up for a game after such a tough but
Speaker 1: disappointing game prior, it can be difficult.
Speaker 4: I think every situation that just can post the morale
Speaker 4: in the building right now. I haven't been over there
Speaker 4: yet this week, gave plan on getting over there tomorrow,
Speaker 4: and I get to know, like what that mood is like.
Speaker 4: And that's the job, you know, that's the job of
Speaker 4: a head coach. That's the job of the coaches is
Speaker 4: to gauge, you know, where the players are. Are they
Speaker 4: hungrier after a tough loss to Georgia or they or
Speaker 4: the demeanor a little bit more somber. And I think
Speaker 4: that you have to effectively evaluate what that is. I
Speaker 4: like what Mark said a field last week about going
Speaker 4: to the captains on the team, the leadership. I think
Speaker 4: you do that same thing in this situation. You know,
Speaker 4: historically this is a trap game, This is a huge
Speaker 4: opportunity for a letdown, and you gotta go right to
Speaker 4: your leaders again and you gotta say, guys, what kind
Speaker 4: of week is it going to be? This is your team,
Speaker 4: this is your football team. All right, every week you
Speaker 4: get the opportunity to generate, to generate history, and what.
Speaker 3: Are the stories. What are they gonna say about how.
Speaker 4: We responded after taking the number one team to the wire,
Speaker 4: having them backed into a corner. We saw new players
Speaker 4: elevate their play and play at just an extremely high level.
Speaker 4: You have to challenge those guys, you have to challenge
Speaker 4: love it to sustain this and take it to another level.
Speaker 4: You gotta look these guys in the eye, all of
Speaker 4: these position coaches, and they got to look at each
Speaker 4: other now and they got to say, defensively, this is
Speaker 4: what we said that we were going to be. We
Speaker 4: said collectively going into this season. I heard Brad, I've
Speaker 4: heard him talk with this team. I've heard their responses
Speaker 4: that they were going to be a championship caliber defense.
Speaker 3: Is that going to sustain? And we're going to know
Speaker 3: here in a few days.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's It's a great point because it's not always
Speaker 1: what you do against the Georgia's and in South Carolina
Speaker 1: is what do you do in a game like this
Speaker 1: when you got to dig a little deeper, right, You.
Speaker 4: Got to dig a little deeper, and a team like
Speaker 4: Ohio I don't. I haven't seen their film yet, Gabe,
Speaker 4: but I know what it is like to be able
Speaker 4: to you try to come in town at an opportunity
Speaker 4: like this and and essentially come in, get the check
Speaker 4: and anything that you can fit on the airplane. After
Speaker 4: you come in and you pull off an upset and
Speaker 4: you take it all back. And Kentucky's got to prevent
Speaker 4: them from coming in with this dragon slayer mindset that
Speaker 4: they're going to come in and they're gonna catch us
Speaker 4: off guard. Uh, and and and and and come out
Speaker 4: with a victory. And you know, and and on top
Speaker 4: of that, it's it's more so as well. You know,
Speaker 4: we we try to sometimes not talk about the stats
Speaker 4: and the statistics, but they matter. Uh. This is an
Speaker 4: elite group of talent on this football team, and they
Speaker 4: got to continue to put these guys in positions to
Speaker 4: make plays.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: There's a lot to play for this season, a lot
Speaker 4: of football left. Uh, and they gotta get you know,
Speaker 4: we've talked about the identity on the offense. This is
Speaker 4: one of those games it's critical for them to start
Speaker 4: to find what type of offense that this is going
Speaker 4: to be.
Speaker 1: You know, when you think about the mac There are
Speaker 1: any number of examples you could put, including this year
Speaker 1: with Toledo crushing Mississippi State in Starkville, whipping Notre Dame,
Speaker 1: biggest win in the history of that program, which you
Speaker 1: know what, I always think back to your tenure at
Speaker 1: Kentucky when you guys had to work your butts off
Speaker 1: to beat a team called Kent State with a quarterback
Speaker 1: named Julian Edelman. I know you remember that game, don't you.
Speaker 3: I remember that.
Speaker 4: I remember the game very well, Julian Edelman and Eugene Jarvis.
Speaker 4: And when I remember about that game going in, I
Speaker 4: remember the film study and I remember knowing who these
Speaker 4: guys were going into that game because I saw flash
Speaker 4: from those guys. And it wasn't until we got out
Speaker 4: there on the fields that I really realized, like I
Speaker 4: thought coming in that they were good players. But once
Speaker 4: once that whistle blew, I was like, oh boy. I
Speaker 4: mean we went in at halftime. I mean Julian Edelman,
Speaker 4: I mean he put on a clinic in the first half,
Speaker 4: and it was one of those things. It was one
Speaker 4: of those things where you know, I remember talking, you know,
Speaker 4: with our guys in the locker room, and I shared
Speaker 4: some of those experiences with our defensive lot. You know,
Speaker 4: I told those guys, you're in a different weight class.
Speaker 3: When you get a chance to catch.
Speaker 4: These guys, whether it's Julian Edelman, you get a chance
Speaker 4: to catch some of their playmakers out in space, you
Speaker 4: got to make them feel you. And that's exactly what
Speaker 4: happened against Kent State in the second half. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 4: we started to lay on Julian Edelman and Eugene Jarvis
Speaker 4: and the game flipped pretty quickly. We shut those guys down.
Speaker 4: I don't think they scored again gave in the second half,
Speaker 4: But it never should have gotten to that. We never
Speaker 4: should have allowed a guy a team like that to
Speaker 4: come in and basically have all the energy and the
Speaker 4: momentum in the first half to where we had to
Speaker 4: elevate our play in the second half to essentially put
Speaker 4: it out of reach.
Speaker 1: You told me once that Julian Edelman's name came up
Speaker 1: in one of your NFL interviews pre draft interviews. Didn't
Speaker 1: you talk about him.
Speaker 4: Obsolutely?
Speaker 5: Did?
Speaker 4: And you know, the Patriots are so thorough. I just
Speaker 4: you know, I just think that they take the time,
Speaker 4: they asked the questions that a lot of other teams
Speaker 4: didn't ask, and they did a deep dive and I
Speaker 4: shared with them. But I thought Julian Edelman could have
Speaker 4: played in the SEC and that he would have been
Speaker 4: a ballplayer like this guy could. He could have helped
Speaker 4: any team in the SEC win football games. And there
Speaker 4: was you know, and.
Speaker 1: Look at his pro career, not too shabby.
Speaker 4: Yeah, super Bowl MVP, a few Super Bowl rings, you know,
Speaker 4: arguably one of the better slots in the last twenty
Speaker 4: years in the NFL. Yeah, I mean, it definitely worked
Speaker 4: out for him.
Speaker 1: And he wasn't opposed to changing positions, did not go
Speaker 1: into the draftsu really saying I am a quarterback, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I get that work out. Jeremy Jarman as my guest.
Speaker 1: He is, of course one of our pregame analysts here
Speaker 1: on the UK Sports Network along with the Christy Thomas
Speaker 1: and Logan Stember. We'll come back and talk more to
Speaker 1: ball with Jeremy on the other side of the break
Speaker 1: here on six thirty WLAP. Welcome back. We're chatting with
Speaker 1: Jeremy Jarman, former Kentucky defensive end and one of my
Speaker 1: teammates on the UK Sports Network. Coming up at the
Speaker 1: bottom of the hour here in hour number two. West
Speaker 1: End Beera chief Gary Moore will join us today on
Speaker 1: a Thursday because what we had to wrap up early
Speaker 1: last night for Kentucky volleyball. But a little extra football
Speaker 1: chatter with Jeremy Jarman. We've talked quite a while without
Speaker 1: talking about Brock Vandergriff. We talked about the old line,
Speaker 1: of course, but I'm holding off on any kind of
Speaker 1: opinion on him, Jeremy, simply because of the nature of
Speaker 1: all three games. You know, the rain game South Carolina
Speaker 1: was a disaster, and then of course Georgia was a
Speaker 1: matter of survival and truly he had to manage the game.
Speaker 1: Made that one big mistake. But otherwise, what did you see,
Speaker 1: your learned eye, what did it tell you after the
Speaker 1: Georgia game.
Speaker 4: I see a quarterback that can make all the throws.
Speaker 4: He's a guy that excites me because because of his physical, mental,
Speaker 4: and spiritual toughness, three things that I think that you
Speaker 4: need to be an elite an elite player in this league,
Speaker 4: especially playing at a position like quarterback. With that being said,
Speaker 4: he's also a guy that has the experience of three
Speaker 4: career starts. Yeah, and I think that that's something that Yeah,
Speaker 4: the guy's a you know, former five star high school quarterback.
Speaker 4: But he's a guy that I see getting better every
Speaker 4: single week on film, dealing with a lot of adversity,
Speaker 4: continuing to rise tin in the battle through he's banged up,
Speaker 4: he's fighting through that, pushing through it. I see a
Speaker 4: guy that makes some good throws and then sometimes he
Speaker 4: hesitates because he's not quite sure if he can thread
Speaker 4: one in there. And some of that is the fact
Speaker 4: that you know, the guy played, you know, he's been
Speaker 4: the scout team quarterback for you know, the last two
Speaker 4: three seasons at Georgia, and he quite.
Speaker 3: Frankly knows there's some avatars.
Speaker 4: Running around out there on the back end, and he's
Speaker 4: just kind of hesitant maybe to put the you know,
Speaker 4: put the ball out there in some of those situations,
Speaker 4: just because he's seen these guys make incredible plays in
Speaker 4: practice and.
Speaker 3: In games on Saturdays. So, you know, it lets me
Speaker 3: know that.
Speaker 4: He's a guy that's smart enough to not overdo it, right.
Speaker 4: I could see where a younger quarterback playing against his
Speaker 4: former team could want to come out and try to
Speaker 4: do too much. And with Rocks, he may have showed
Speaker 4: just at.
Speaker 3: Times maybe just a tiny bit of restraint where you wish,
Speaker 3: hey man.
Speaker 4: Just let it go right, just let it go and
Speaker 4: just trust it. So I like what I'm seeing from Brock.
Speaker 4: He's a guy that just he's got a lot of upside.
Speaker 4: We've got to continue to build the play package around.
Speaker 3: Him and our strengths.
Speaker 4: I think that the quick passing game has to continue
Speaker 4: to evolve. I'd like to see coach Hompden I thought,
Speaker 4: I thought a game plan against Georgia was really good.
Speaker 4: I'd like to see us continue to diverse spint add
Speaker 4: to the screen package, running backstrings, tight end.
Speaker 3: Screens, jail break just just add to that.
Speaker 4: I think all of those things will be extremely valuaful
Speaker 4: to our offense because we have a lot of playmakers
Speaker 4: in my opinion, that can make plays. Different type of receivers,
Speaker 4: even our tight ends.
Speaker 3: Those stream packages, what a way to.
Speaker 4: Get the ball to guys and get them a chance
Speaker 4: with the football and open field.
Speaker 1: And speaking of I really thought that we would see
Speaker 1: Demi Zimo Karnbay catching the ball out of the backfield,
Speaker 1: skirting the edge. He did that, of course against Southern Miss,
Speaker 1: but both South Carolina and Georgia took that away from Kentucky.
Speaker 1: But what did he do? He slammed it up in
Speaker 1: there between tackles. When you talk about this entire team, Jeremy,
Speaker 1: that has surprised me the most in a good way.
Speaker 1: And I just wasn't certain that he'd be able to
Speaker 1: do that. Has it surprised you?
Speaker 3: It has surprised me because this isn't the ACC. And
Speaker 3: I've watched guys go.
Speaker 4: From ACC to SEC and you see them do some
Speaker 4: things in that league, and you wonder can they do
Speaker 4: it in the SEC?
Speaker 3: And Demmy, he was a guy that.
Speaker 4: I didn't know if he was going to be a
Speaker 4: running back here or a slot receiver. Yeah, and I've
Speaker 4: watched him embrace what j Bull where the running backs coach,
Speaker 4: what they've asked him to do. You know, he is
Speaker 4: what he is. You know, he's not a big throne.
Speaker 3: Everything that he had behind it.
Speaker 4: I think he could catch the ball extremely well out
Speaker 4: of the backfield. I think he I think his explosion.
Speaker 3: He doesn't hesitate when he gets the ball.
Speaker 4: I think our run game, in my opinion, it's it's
Speaker 4: so successful because he explodes once he gets the ball
Speaker 4: through the line. He's able to read, He's able to
Speaker 4: read it pre snap, he's able to read it at
Speaker 4: the snap, and he's just been tough and scrappy and
Speaker 4: he's done a good job of avoiding like the big
Speaker 4: collisions that can occur, you know, in that first four
Speaker 4: or five yards after the handoffh.
Speaker 3: And crows to him and you just want to see.
Speaker 4: Him just continue to just to just contribute to this
Speaker 4: offense because it has been made his role. His impact
Speaker 4: has just been tremendous.
Speaker 1: Oh man. Uh and and you know the freshman that
Speaker 1: they've slid in there behind him because trade them sir. Yes,
Speaker 1: they're fun to watch too, so and that's so vital
Speaker 1: in a mark S Tubes team. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you can sling it around all you want, but we
Speaker 1: all know at the end of the day, it's going
Speaker 1: to be who can run in between the tackles. And
Speaker 1: right now it looks like knocking on wood, they're in
Speaker 1: pretty good shape.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you just we know that we're getting closer
Speaker 4: to being able to get one to get our power
Speaker 4: back back again. Hope to hear soon with Chip training
Speaker 4: them getting him back into the mix. But uh but yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, will Cox, I'm happy with that group. I
Speaker 4: think areas for improvement past blocking shipping. I think those
Speaker 4: are things that those guys, Those are things that defensive
Speaker 4: ends they should feel running backs in the past blocking game.
Speaker 4: And I say that as you know, Alposer is a
Speaker 4: guy that used to come up the edge. I did
Speaker 4: not like seeing running backs leaning in the chip to
Speaker 4: help out on tackles because those guys had the ability
Speaker 4: to deplete you.
Speaker 3: With leverage because you're engaged on.
Speaker 4: A tackle and here he's coming, he's leaning in, he's
Speaker 4: getting a shoulder, he's getting a rib. Those type of
Speaker 4: things slow you down. And I think that we missed
Speaker 4: some opportunities in that South Carolina game to have our
Speaker 4: running to really lean in and get in the ribs
Speaker 4: of Knar and Dylan Stewart. And I promise you that
Speaker 4: those guys would have been a little step slower knowing
Speaker 4: that the running backs were capables and flipping harm on
Speaker 4: them in that pad of blocking game. They got to
Speaker 4: bring that fear. They got to bring that fear element
Speaker 4: to the past blocking game.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I always go back to what Jeff Mano
Speaker 1: told us, a great former Wildcat, and you spend eight
Speaker 1: teen years and a league snapping a ball because people
Speaker 1: I've heard through the years. You know, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you want to call it debate or opinions or whatever.
Speaker 1: What's tougher to do? Run block or pass block? And
Speaker 1: Note always said I would rather run block because it's
Speaker 1: easier to move forward fire off the ball, knowing where
Speaker 1: you're going to go, than to move backwards, you know,
Speaker 1: and try to manipulate a defensive or an un rushing
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. Uh so, yeah, I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you want to call it an art, but there's
Speaker 1: technique involved. Man, As you well know, Jeremy, you made
Speaker 1: your living going after quarterbacks and they got to learn.
Speaker 3: But I think they are, man, it's all of those things.
Speaker 4: It's an art, it's a skill. It's a science if
Speaker 4: you if you really want to be good at it, Yes,
Speaker 4: if you want to get in the film room and
Speaker 4: you want to study it, you know, to that degree,
Speaker 4: which any which anybody playing at this level should you know,
Speaker 4: should essentially want to do because you just don't show
Speaker 4: up on Saturdays and have success. It just doesn't work
Speaker 4: that way. League is just it evolves too fast. There's
Speaker 4: so many nuances and and and the players are just
Speaker 4: good and in my opinion, it's the film study that
Speaker 4: gives you something that kind of sometimes puts you over
Speaker 4: the top on game day to really be able to
Speaker 4: have the game that has an impact for your team.
Speaker 1: A few minutes left with Jeremy jermyan let me before
Speaker 1: I let you go, Uh, let me go, let me
Speaker 1: let you go with this. Uh, the ACC is trying
Speaker 1: to survive right now. And I think we all agree
Speaker 1: that the movement of the schools. Why while in some
Speaker 1: cases such as UCLA and USC there was they were
Speaker 1: just hamorrhaging money and the PAC twelve was so poorly
Speaker 1: managed they had to move. But Clemson in Florida State,
Speaker 1: they're so full of themselves right now. Uh, and it
Speaker 1: makes some interesting points. But uh, you know, they keep
Speaker 1: talking about leaving, and they're going to leave, and now
Speaker 1: the ACC is trying to come up with a new deal,
Speaker 1: a new proposal that might allow them to stay. And
Speaker 1: then you know, with TV ratings involved in all that.
Speaker 1: But as a guy who played the sport in the
Speaker 1: best league there is and probably ever will be in
Speaker 1: college athletics, how much do you fear for college athletics
Speaker 1: Because it's just a crazy time right now. I know,
Speaker 1: it's an open ended question.
Speaker 4: It is and and and I do fear it. I
Speaker 4: just think it's it's really unfortunate. I feel I feel
Speaker 4: really bad for the fan basis. Yeah, because we are
Speaker 4: seeing we are seeing the business side of it.
Speaker 3: Changed, uh, change the game, change.
Speaker 4: The conferences that at a at a at a rate
Speaker 4: that I don't know if it's ever happened.
Speaker 1: I don't think it has.
Speaker 4: Everybody's trying to find the answers. And yeah, in Florida
Speaker 4: State and Clemson Ultimate lead, you know, the A C C.
Speaker 4: Whatever deal they strike today, the landscape could be different
Speaker 4: in the year like so, I mean, how bad you know,
Speaker 4: you want to keep those teams right, but I mean
Speaker 4: you know how much of a cost uh, you know
Speaker 4: to the happiness of the other members.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know you're.
Speaker 4: Striking deals that that that affect the you know, the
Speaker 4: flow of dollars and the you know, the revenue and
Speaker 4: TV TV deals, et cetera. And you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 4: make the other members of the conference very disgruntled as well.
Speaker 4: And it's just a bad it's a bad situation to
Speaker 4: be trying to manage.
Speaker 1: I know that I'm glad that we got to their argument,
Speaker 1: we we got to worry about ourselves before we worry
Speaker 1: about anybody else. But there's a big picture involved. And
Speaker 1: I say this with my background of spending two years
Speaker 1: in the old Southwest Conference back when it was beginning
Speaker 1: to wobble a bit because there was cheating so much,
Speaker 1: and everybody except for TCU and Rice are on probation
Speaker 1: and stabbing each other in the back, and then you know,
Speaker 1: the Texas Network kind of uh toward that league apart.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's bad business. And I think, Jeremy, there
Speaker 1: are times and you got to look, you got to
Speaker 1: give into the business side of things, right.
Speaker 4: I guess, Gabe, I'm not so sure that there's not
Speaker 4: a that there's not a major coup that's happening right now.
Speaker 4: And we'll look back in a few years and and
Speaker 4: we'll kind of be able to analyze, you know, some
Speaker 4: of the moves and things like that that have been
Speaker 4: made over the years. But I think that I think
Speaker 4: that there's something far bigger at play that's going on
Speaker 4: in college sports right now, and it's not just the
Speaker 4: realignment of conferences.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're right, and we need we will
Speaker 1: revisit it. Constantly, but I'd love to know where we'll
Speaker 1: be in the next not just five years, but a
Speaker 1: couple of years. It just seems like something comes up
Speaker 1: each and every day. Jeremy Jarman is part of our
Speaker 1: pregame coverage of Kentucky football. He and Logan and Christy.
Speaker 1: You will have the countdown to kickoff coming up early.
Speaker 1: Hey you got to get up early brother Saturday? Do
Speaker 1: you like that ten thirty airtime?
Speaker 3: Ten?
Speaker 1: Are you just hearing that? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I guess I hadn't. I guess I just hadn't done
Speaker 3: the man game.
Speaker 1: Appreciate my Yeah, but your little man gets you up
Speaker 1: early every day, doesn't he?
Speaker 4: He does two early, two early games. So now I'm
Speaker 4: looking for it. I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: I think that I think they've done such a good job.
Speaker 4: We're always we're doing seems like more and more, you know,
Speaker 4: with the UK Sports Network has been fun. The addition
Speaker 4: of some new people in the digital space. There's a
Speaker 4: lot of projects that are going on currently across the
Speaker 4: entireju CA Athletics landscape. I'm super excited about our future,
Speaker 4: you know, with JMI UK Sports Network.
Speaker 1: Good glad to hear that. When you're happy. I'm happy,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Jarman, Thank you so much, buddy, and we'll see
Speaker 1: you Saturday.
Speaker 4: Hi brother, see you So.
Speaker 1: Coming up at the bottom of the hour, west End
Speaker 1: Bureau chief Gary Moore here on the Big Blue Sider
Speaker 1: six thirty eight WLAP. Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider.
Speaker 1: Coming up in just a few minutes, west End Bureau
Speaker 1: Chief Gary Moore joined us. Yeah, on a Thursday yesterday
Speaker 1: we were cut a little short by UK volleyball. So
Speaker 1: Gary joining us at the bottom of this hour a
Speaker 1: few minutes here to tell you about dan Orlovsky's latest
Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to call it a
Speaker 1: gaff or it's not controversial, but just some comments he
Speaker 1: made on the NFL network Orlovsky of course, I think
Speaker 1: he's a good analyst. I don't always agree with him,
Speaker 1: but he has said some interesting things through the years
Speaker 1: as an analyst for the NFL Network and a guy
Speaker 1: who played twelve years in the NFL. I was when
Speaker 1: I read that. I thought he was maybe a backup
Speaker 1: quarterback for three or four years, but he actually played
Speaker 1: twelve seasons primarily as a backup. Drafted out of Yukon
Speaker 1: by the Lions in twenty zero five. I had a
Speaker 1: good college career, turned down Michigan State produced schools like
Speaker 1: that to go to his home state Yukon because he
Speaker 1: said he wanted to elevate the Huskies in the Big East.
Speaker 1: And like I said, he got him to the Music
Speaker 1: City Bowl or MotorCity Bowl rather in twenty oh four
Speaker 1: as his last year. But he signs with the Lions.
Speaker 1: He's there for three or four years, then the Texans,
Speaker 1: the Colts, Buccaneers, back to the Lions where he was
Speaker 1: under practice squad and finished up with the Rams on
Speaker 1: their practice squad. But a good talker, a good interviewer,
Speaker 1: outspoken and winds up on ESPN and other networks. And
Speaker 1: now he's a regular. You hear him talking all the time.
Speaker 1: But apparently and I don't watch the show he's on much,
Speaker 1: but they talk about food now and then, and they
Speaker 1: were talking about hot dogs, and it kind of had
Speaker 1: on because my wife and I debate and argue about
Speaker 1: how to cook hot dogs. She likes them on the grill.
Speaker 1: I like them. I like to boil them and then
Speaker 1: finish them on the grill, whether it's a hot dog
Speaker 1: or and then she uses the impossible version as being
Speaker 1: a vegetarian of a brot or an Italian sausage or whatever.
Speaker 1: But to me, boiling brings out the flavors and then
Speaker 1: you finish them on the grill if you have that
Speaker 1: kind of patience. But apparently Orlowsky tweeted the question what
Speaker 1: is a Chicago style hot dog? Which a lot of
Speaker 1: people love, and tom Lee chipcorn I tape the Wildcat
Speaker 1: Whip at South of Wrigley where you can get yourself
Speaker 1: a Chicago style dog. They'll make it any way you want,
Speaker 1: but it's generally an all beef hot dog on a
Speaker 1: poppy seed bun, and you can have any of the
Speaker 1: following any or all yellow mustard, which I don't care for.
Speaker 4: I got.
Speaker 1: I like the brown mustard, sweet pickle relish. I like
Speaker 1: that chopped white onion. Yeah, dill pickle spear. I have
Speaker 1: never maybe once if I seen that, but it adds
Speaker 1: kind of a salty finish if you like it. Tomato
Speaker 1: slices or wedges, I've never seen it. I've seen some
Speaker 1: dice tomatoes on hot dogs. Not a fan like tomatoes,
Speaker 1: pickled sport peppers, whatever those are, but I do like
Speaker 1: pickled peppers, celery salt, no thank you. I hate celery
Speaker 1: and it's listed because it adds crunch as a finishing touch. No,
Speaker 1: thank you, but Orlavskia the other day kind of stunned
Speaker 1: as coworkers by saying this a couple things.
Speaker 5: Hot dogs are better on the grill than they are
Speaker 5: broiled or pie. They're actually at their best when they
Speaker 5: are cut into small pieces and added into macaroni and cheese.
Speaker 4: That's child.
Speaker 5: If you really want to have a great hot dogs,
Speaker 5: you grill it, but a piece of America and cheese
Speaker 5: on the roll, then that and catch up.
Speaker 4: Wow, I've never heard it.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of worst way to eat dog.
Speaker 5: But you never a hot dog you put it in
Speaker 5: mac and cheese.
Speaker 1: Buddynny, that sounds term.
Speaker 3: I don'd of it.
Speaker 1: Oh, I've heard of it. I may have even seen it.
Speaker 1: But no, that's the worst thing you can say about
Speaker 1: hot dogs is that they're made to be cut up
Speaker 1: and put in macaroni and cheese. Reminds me of The
Speaker 1: Big Bang Theory, where Sheldon's mother always delighted him when
Speaker 1: she would prepare spaghetti with little pieces of hot dog
Speaker 1: cut up and as she called it, that's real Italian eating. Now,
Speaker 1: that's it. It's not gross. I mean, you know, mac
Speaker 1: and cheese is fine. Hot dogs and f are fine.
Speaker 1: You can even put them together, but don't say that's
Speaker 1: the best way to present a hot dog. That's just wrong.
Speaker 1: Or the thing, you know, the bun with just the
Speaker 1: plain piece of yellow cheese at plastic cheese, no thank you,
Speaker 1: Orlafski knows his foot ball doesn't know as dogs. Gary
Speaker 1: Moore's next welcome back to Big Lewinsider. It is Thursday,
Speaker 1: not Wednesday. But last night we had to abbreviate a
Speaker 1: show because of volleyball. So our man Gary Moore, a
Speaker 1: west End bureau chief, slides over one night he of
Speaker 1: course with two guys in a six pack, And it's
Speaker 1: kind of an extra day to steep, doesn't it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's marinating for a whole twenty four hours now.
Speaker 6: So yeah, we got six topies that go over by
Speaker 6: the way, happy belated. I think I sent you a
Speaker 6: little message on Facebook. Mighty nice of your packers to
Speaker 6: win for you. How about that you are a shareholder
Speaker 6: as a home underdog, and I understand the game ball
Speaker 6: is on the way. With a little extra spittle from
Speaker 6: Josh Myers, I understand it could be.
Speaker 1: The center who threw up on the ball. Hey, who
Speaker 1: can we send this to?
Speaker 6: Who would appreciate this more than anybody?
Speaker 1: You know? I have seen Alignment lose his pregame meal
Speaker 1: right before snap. I've seen that it was a Kentucky
Speaker 1: Georgia game any many years ago. I think it was
Speaker 1: a Georgia player. Could have been anybody canon see that? Nope, Well,
Speaker 1: hopefully you're Trinity boys will do the same tomorrow night
Speaker 1: Mail and Trinity catch up. Yeah, well, we got six
Speaker 1: topics to go over here. And by the way, speaking
Speaker 1: of predictions, is it too late for me to get
Speaker 1: a mulligan on my Super Bowl pick of the Lions
Speaker 1: and the Bengals? And maybe do it do over?
Speaker 6: The Bengals were half as good at playing winning football
Speaker 6: as are at popping off with their mouths, they would
Speaker 6: be two and o by now. But we got a
Speaker 6: lot of these and two teams. Now, there's a point
Speaker 6: I wanted to bring up about this as we get
Speaker 6: into the NFL this weekend, is are these oh and
Speaker 6: two teams just rusty or are they going to be
Speaker 6: really crummy for the rest of the year. I'm talking
Speaker 6: about people like Baltimore, last year's AFC runners up, is
Speaker 6: lamar rusty or just regressing. You got the Giants, Rams, Titans, Colts, Jags, Panthers,
Speaker 6: Broncos and Falcons. Well, the Falcons were all about to
Speaker 6: go almost uh oh to three, but they rallied on
Speaker 6: Monday night, obviously, But fewer than here, this is from
Speaker 6: the athletic Fewer than eleven percent of NFL teams have
Speaker 6: ever made the playoffs after they started zero and two.
Speaker 6: Doesn't matter about the ratings. TV ratings are off to
Speaker 6: record starts again and tight. We've got the Patriots and
Speaker 6: the Jets on Amazon Thursday Night Football. But these slow
Speaker 6: starts for teams. Do you think it's just veterans who
Speaker 6: didn't play in the preseason kind of working through some
Speaker 6: things in the rest or do you think there's really
Speaker 6: some bad regression going on with some of these teams?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: I think it's both. You know, that's a cop out answer,
Speaker 1: I though, But some of the teams you mentioned are
Speaker 1: just woeful anyway, and some are supposed to be pretty good,
Speaker 1: like the Bengals. But the Bengals, it seems like, and
Speaker 1: this has been a pattern for the Bengals over the
Speaker 1: last four years. Uh, they got to take a good
Speaker 1: look at how they prepare for the upcoming season. So
Speaker 1: some of this has been borrough, dealing with injuries and
Speaker 1: that sort of thing, but it is a startling statistic.
Speaker 1: The one you mentioned about getting off to a slow
Speaker 1: start kind of ruins your season in the NFL, or
Speaker 1: at least getting the playoffs. But one of these years,
Speaker 1: and it may have already happened. I don't think it has.
Speaker 1: A team's going to start on too and win the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, but that doesn't matter. If you start off
Speaker 1: ohing two, that's a clear message that something ain't right.
Speaker 6: Second swig in the six packs for this week after
Speaker 6: the Jets Pats game tonight. Besides my Seahawks hosting the
Speaker 6: two of free Fish this week in five games are
Speaker 6: getting my attention. See what you think two and oh
Speaker 6: Chargers at the two and oh Steelers, one and one
Speaker 6: Lions at the one and one and suddenly surprising Cardinals.
Speaker 6: You got the two and o Texans at the definitely
Speaker 6: surprising two and oh Vikings. That'll be a great game, obviously,
Speaker 6: the one and one Eagles that should be two and
Speaker 6: oh at the hood. Adds at the Saints they're two
Speaker 6: and oh, why the Saints look like a machine all
Speaker 6: of a sudden. And then you got Lamar and the
Speaker 6: oh and two Ravens at the one and one Boys
Speaker 6: down in Dallas. One side is going to be bitching
Speaker 6: loud and long after that game. And then we got
Speaker 6: not one but two Monday night games, the O and
Speaker 6: two Jacks at the two and oh Bills, the first
Speaker 6: one in seven thirty, then eight to fifteen ABC one
Speaker 6: and one Washington up I seventy five against these aforementioned
Speaker 6: disappointing oh and two Cincinnati Bengals. Besides your Packers game
Speaker 6: with hopefully no on field vomiting episodes, which of those
Speaker 6: games would intrigue you the most?
Speaker 1: Actually, Well, much as I'd love to see Baltimore go
Speaker 1: down and beat Dallas, because I want to see everybody
Speaker 1: and anybody beat Dallas. And yeah, you're right, the Saints
Speaker 1: are really fascinating right now, and Philly definitely blew that game.
Speaker 1: I don't believe in Kyler Murray yet, so I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I think Detroit should be good there. But the one
Speaker 1: that I'm really curious about here, he is San Diego
Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh with Harball versus Tomlin. You know, San Diego's
Speaker 1: probably will It definitely is the Glossier team in terms
Speaker 1: of how they play, how they move to the football, how
Speaker 1: they score. But Pittsburgh, man, you talk about a team
Speaker 1: that reflects its fan base and it's city and it's
Speaker 1: head coach. So well, that's gonna be I think, a
Speaker 1: real fascinating match.
Speaker 6: And Herbert hasn't really practiced a lot this week too,
Speaker 6: quarterback chargers, so that factor intuitous.
Speaker 1: So we got to see how much time mister watts
Speaker 1: Men's in the backfield. Yeah, it's gonna be harassing Herbert.
Speaker 6: Good luck with that our third swig and the six pack.
Speaker 6: It's not college football, you know, Dick. Besides the B
Speaker 6: fifty two is one of my favorite bands from Athens, Georgia,
Speaker 6: band I Love playing on Klos rim Rim had a
Speaker 6: song off of their second album that was called second Guessing,
Speaker 6: and the line goes, why are you trying to second
Speaker 6: guess me? I'm tired of second guessing. I don't know
Speaker 6: if Mark Stoop's had this on a rotation this week
Speaker 6: or not, but obviously I bring this up because obviously
Speaker 6: that's been what's going on. I know you've covered it
Speaker 6: a lot this week on the show. All I will
Speaker 6: say is in terms of that going for the punt
Speaker 6: instead of going for it on fourth and eight is
Speaker 6: if you don't have a play in your back pocket
Speaker 6: like a lot of NFL teams do that nobody has
Speaker 6: seen yet. Maybe you stack up four receivers on one side.
Speaker 6: Maybe there's something on there that can get you five
Speaker 6: to ten yards. If you don't have one of those
Speaker 6: in your back pocket, maybe you should work on one
Speaker 6: of those in practice, or maybe get a new OC
Speaker 6: or something. Because it seems to me that was a
Speaker 6: game worth winning. I will say, hats off to the team,
Speaker 6: by the way, the whole team was fantastic. They deserve
Speaker 6: to win that game. They did not deserve the miss calls,
Speaker 6: like the mistargeting calls. They did not deserve to have
Speaker 6: the pick sixth.
Speaker 1: Return or overturn.
Speaker 6: It looked like it was a fine bounce off the
Speaker 6: guy's hand to me. But that's all I'm going to
Speaker 6: say here. As far as the rim song goes, there's
Speaker 6: the second line after that is what will be your
Speaker 6: look this season? So I ask you, wow, can they
Speaker 6: sustain this? You're the one on the sidelines. What difference
Speaker 6: is if any did you see on the sidelines from
Speaker 6: the players and the coaches during the Georgia game that
Speaker 6: you didn't see during Carolina And can they sustain this
Speaker 6: kind of a play that they had on Saturday night
Speaker 6: for the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: They showed up ready to play, They showed up focused,
Speaker 1: They showed up concentrating on the hand on a job
Speaker 1: at hand, and they better have because of how they
Speaker 1: get spanked by South Carolina. But I've talked about it
Speaker 1: you write this week. Talking to Zion Childress after the
Speaker 1: game as one of the leaders, he said, I had
Speaker 1: to show the young players that I wasn't going to
Speaker 1: let the South Carolina game affect the way I prepared
Speaker 1: for this game. They've got to have that in space
Speaker 1: the entire up and down the roster. This week. I'm
Speaker 1: guessing they will, but I've also been around the block
Speaker 1: a few times. You have no way. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: my humble opinion, I think they'll be ready to play.
Speaker 1: You cannot fake that kind of emotion, So I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to really grind this one out to
Speaker 1: win it, because Ohio use a good team. As for
Speaker 1: the second guessing, yeah, obviously that's been a topic all week.
Speaker 1: And man, when did they write that song, like right
Speaker 1: after the game. That's pretty amazing. Yeah, to your point
Speaker 1: about that play, yeah, I could see that, but I
Speaker 1: would have run that play on second or third down, Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: although I was not crazy about throwing on second down.
Speaker 1: To me, you play that like four down territory, you
Speaker 1: know you play that, And but we've hashed that up
Speaker 1: all week. But the other thing to do is do
Speaker 1: no matter what play you have with George's big uglyes
Speaker 1: rushing up field, chasing down your quarterback, the odds to
Speaker 1: him getting a chance to look for those four receivers
Speaker 1: were kind of slim port.
Speaker 6: Swigg in the six pack. So we got Ohio at
Speaker 6: UK there you'll be down there. Twelve forty five Saturday
Speaker 6: SEC Network Cats twenty point favorites at this point, three
Speaker 6: point thirty this Saturday afternoon on ESPN two, number nineteen,
Speaker 6: U OFL finally back in action after two weeks. They'll
Speaker 6: host Georgia Tech Cards are a ten point favorite as
Speaker 6: we speak. And how about my Hilltoppers? Did Gabriel have
Speaker 6: you heard about this weekend?
Speaker 1: By any chance?
Speaker 6: Well, let's go back to Saturday. First of all, when
Speaker 6: in the beatdown of Middle Tennessee local red shirt sophomore
Speaker 6: quarterback Hayden Veldt Camp South Warren High School and bowling,
Speaker 6: they wanted to make him a tight end at the
Speaker 6: end of last season, came out in the bowl game,
Speaker 6: did some great things. Still didn't start in this game,
Speaker 6: but he relieved injured transfer starting quarterback TJ. Finley when
Speaker 6: twenty seven for thirty passing ninety percent completion rate best
Speaker 6: ever in WKU history. Saturday night in bowling Greens seven
Speaker 6: o'clock Toppers and Toledo, which we know what happened with
Speaker 6: Toledo and in Mississippi State done in Stark, Vegas. Toppers
Speaker 6: are two and a half point underdog, but I'm going
Speaker 6: to take him to win and.
Speaker 1: Beat the spread.
Speaker 6: And of course I like U of L and UK
Speaker 6: in those games as well.
Speaker 1: Could be a bounce for Toledo. Yeah, so maybe the
Speaker 1: Toppers lying in wait and take them down. I think
Speaker 1: that spread of the Louisville Georgia Tech game is really interesting.
Speaker 1: Speaks well to the respect for U of L. But
Speaker 1: you know, Georgia Tech was the nation's darling after beating
Speaker 1: Florida state in Ireland, and that opener looked really good
Speaker 1: doing it. But since then, the value of that victory
Speaker 1: it keeps plumbing. With the fortunes of Florida State. You know,
Speaker 1: they beat did Georgia Tech last time at VMI from Lexington,
Speaker 1: Virginia beat them, I mean, yeah, hang on making edit
Speaker 1: there last week blew them out. Prior to that, they're
Speaker 1: lost to Syracuse. So I think some of that luster
Speaker 1: is off Georgia Tech. That's going to be a good one.
Speaker 1: I think Georgia Tech covers in that game. But I
Speaker 1: think loosvill wins Fifthswig and the six packs.
Speaker 6: So besides these these three games you mentioned of commonwealth concern,
Speaker 6: I got five other college games I'm going to check
Speaker 6: out starting tomorrow night. Friday night, number twenty four, Illinois
Speaker 6: at number twenty two, Nebraska, they're both three and zero.
Speaker 6: Then on Saturday, you got UCLA at number sixteen, LSU
Speaker 6: the Bayou Bengals by twenty three. After the Bruins, who
Speaker 6: got just absolutely beaten down at the Rose Bowl by Indiana,
Speaker 6: you got number eleven. Here's a big game of the
Speaker 6: Big House. Number eleven. USC at number eighteen. Michigan sc
Speaker 6: is a six point favorite. I want to watch that one.
Speaker 6: They ain't got that school down. I seventy five number
Speaker 6: six balls three and oh number fifteen Oklahoma at Oklahoma
Speaker 6: balls a seven point favorite. But you got x ok
Speaker 6: Josh Heipel going back to his former field of glory,
Speaker 6: he might want to run it up. I would not
Speaker 6: be surprised, you know. And then a couple other games too,
Speaker 6: Baylor two and one at Colorado also two and one.
Speaker 6: Buffs are point and have favorites. We know how we
Speaker 6: feel about coach Prime and his animosity toward the media.
Speaker 6: I say, go Bears. And by the way, you're talking
Speaker 6: about Florida State, Cal Berkeley. Now the acc Cal went
Speaker 6: into Auburn. We saw what they did to Auburn three
Speaker 6: and oh they're playing at FSU oh and three.
Speaker 1: What happens if SFU loses that game? Well, I think
Speaker 1: Mike Norvial, having taken Florida State through a thirteen and
Speaker 1: oh run last year, he's okay. His counterpart at Florida Billion, Aapier,
Speaker 1: not so much. But that's an entire that's a stink possibility.
Speaker 1: As you said, given what Cal did coming across the country,
Speaker 1: get used to it. Bears, to have to play acc
Speaker 1: games and vice versa. You know teams will have to
Speaker 1: go to Berkeley. But yeah, there are so many intriguing matchups,
Speaker 1: but I think Tennessee, Oklahoma tops the list. You mentioned animosity.
Speaker 1: It's an amazing story what Josh Hipel did. And yesterday
Speaker 1: I ran the story about how Mike Leach saw a
Speaker 1: video of the skinny as he as he put a
Speaker 1: pasty faced kid and said that's my quarterback because of
Speaker 1: how accurate he was throwing the football and he all
Speaker 1: all what he does is lead Oklahoma to national title,
Speaker 1: but as an oc gets fired by Mark Stoop's brother
Speaker 1: at one point. So yeah, this is a tremendous story.
Speaker 6: And you, as a Packer fan, should know who found
Speaker 6: Jordan Love and got him to Utah State. Josh Hipel,
Speaker 6: Now about that. There you go, guy knows his quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 6: Speaking of cal Berkeley, this enters into the last sip
Speaker 6: here Dick. Last week after our show, it was announced
Speaker 6: that the PAC twelve is adding more schools. Four of
Speaker 6: them have signed on to join Boise State, Fresno State,
Speaker 6: Colorado State, San Diego State from the Mountain West. Those
Speaker 6: four joining Oregon State and Washington State two schools. Of course,
Speaker 6: we're not invited to the Big ten and they got
Speaker 6: shunned by the Big twelve.
Speaker 1: So it's the Pack six for now.
Speaker 6: It needs to add two more schools by July twenty
Speaker 6: twenty six to stay in compliance with the NCAA. Might
Speaker 6: be looking at Memphis, might be looking at Tulane also,
Speaker 6: that's out of the AAC, and then you got UNLV
Speaker 6: still out of the Mountain West. They'd like Oregon State
Speaker 6: ad Scott Barnes has said, we're focused on rebuilding.
Speaker 1: The PAC twelve.
Speaker 6: So I ask you, could Stanford and col be part
Speaker 6: of that new pack in the next few years, both
Speaker 6: from the ridiculous cross country affiliation with the Atlantic Coast
Speaker 6: Conference and would it even be considered a Power five
Speaker 6: conference with or without Stanford and Cal joining.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know how the the laws are written,
Speaker 1: the contracts are worded. You know, that might allow them
Speaker 1: to back out of the deal they have now and
Speaker 1: return to the PAC twelve. But I will say I'm
Speaker 1: all for it because the PAC twelve did not deserve
Speaker 1: to die that miserable death that was mismanaged. As we've
Speaker 1: talked more than once and you covered that conference for
Speaker 1: a long time mismanaged into oblivion and never should have happened.
Speaker 1: I think college football's best college athletics when you got
Speaker 1: balance on each coast. So and again, everyone has beaten
Speaker 1: this to death about how unfair it is for the
Speaker 1: kids to have to travel like that, not just west
Speaker 1: to east, but east to west. So I'm hoping that works.
Speaker 1: But I got to tell you during March Troops's news conference,
Speaker 1: when he referred to how good Georgia was he said,
Speaker 1: he kind of muttered, it's not like we were playing
Speaker 1: some team from the mountain West.
Speaker 6: There we go, ooh an answer that, But he ain't wrong, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6: Well down the line, it'll see what happens. I think
Speaker 6: some of the stuff is going to sort it out eventually.
Speaker 6: But again, and this was all about mismanagement, like you say,
Speaker 6: and older adults who needed some money from certain schools
Speaker 6: in the pack that are no longer in the pack.
Speaker 1: Yep, that is two guys in a six pack. We'll
Speaker 1: come back with a couple of hot reads for Gary
Speaker 1: Moore in just a minute. Here on the Big one
Speaker 1: Sider six thirty WLAP. Welcome back. We're talking with our
Speaker 1: West end Bureau Chief Gary Moore. Yeah, it's Thursday, but
Speaker 1: we had a short show last night, so Gary with
Speaker 1: us tonight. We've gone through two guys in a six pack,
Speaker 1: couple of hot reads for mister Moore. Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: voting underway, and of course you've got a long list
Speaker 1: of candidate's sixteen going into the voting for the Pro
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. Marshawn Lynch I think is a lock.
Speaker 1: Adam Vinettieri the best kicker in the history of the
Speaker 1: game of foot ball, I think is as well. But
Speaker 1: to me, the juiciest story Gary is Eli Manning his
Speaker 1: career record one seventeen and one seventeen, never got an
Speaker 1: MVP vote, but two Super Bowl wins. Now, football is
Speaker 1: the ultimate team game. We know this unless that's how
Speaker 1: it bills itself. But individual accomplishments oftentimes send people to
Speaker 1: the Hall. Yep, does he go in? Would you vote?
Speaker 1: Let's put it to you that way. Uh. Yes.
Speaker 6: And and then when I saw him as Chad Powers,
Speaker 6: that sort of reaffirmed my confidence.
Speaker 1: In him. It's got two Super.
Speaker 6: Bowl rings and single hand well, I won't say single handley,
Speaker 6: but he was the quarterback in charge of of of
Speaker 6: leading the team to beat the best chance the best
Speaker 6: modern day team or you know since the seventy two Dolphins,
Speaker 6: to be undefeated. He you know, the Patriots were like
Speaker 6: rolling and rolling and rolling undefeated when they got to
Speaker 6: the Super Bowl. He was a quarterback that yeah, was
Speaker 6: at the helm when they beat him.
Speaker 1: He took him.
Speaker 6: In fact, he got two Super Bowl rings. So, uh,
Speaker 6: for my money, he's in the biggest margin.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't vote for him first ballot, but because I
Speaker 1: would reserve that for people like Lynch and Vinitari. But
Speaker 1: to me, what would carry him in as well as
Speaker 1: his two Super Bowl wins, this guy engineered twenty seven
Speaker 1: regular season fourth quarter comebacks in addition to what you
Speaker 1: just described in the Super Bowl, So twenty seven times
Speaker 1: during his career. He led his team thirteenth among qb
Speaker 1: since they started tracking this in nineteen sixty according to
Speaker 1: Pro Football Reference. Buddy, that's one more than Joe Montana
Speaker 1: and more than twice as many as Roger Staubach, who
Speaker 1: is known as Captain Comeback. I think that's important.
Speaker 6: Those are very important. Now he's got two Super Bowl rings.
Speaker 6: You know who also should have two Super Bowl rings
Speaker 6: Marshawn Lynch. Had they handed off the ball to him
Speaker 6: against the Patriots, you'd have another Super Bowl ring.
Speaker 1: But it's the worst play call ever ever in football.
Speaker 4: Ever.
Speaker 1: There will never be a second worst play. That's the
Speaker 1: worst ever. You feel strongly about that. Our second high
Speaker 1: to aid. Michael Jordan finally has found a buyer for
Speaker 1: his Chicago mega mansion. It's only been on the market
Speaker 1: for more than twelve years. This think seven acres gary
Speaker 1: built back in the nineties in the Highland Park suburb
Speaker 1: of Chicago. Back in twenty twelve, they were asking twenty
Speaker 1: nine million. Three years later the price had dropped a
Speaker 1: fourteen point eight million, and it was fourteen point eight
Speaker 1: five to five million. Those digits add up to twenty
Speaker 1: three by the way, and that's what the price has
Speaker 1: been ever since. Now Here, let me make the pitch
Speaker 1: to you. Thirty two thousand square feet. It has nineteen bathrooms,
Speaker 1: five fireplaces, a regulation sized basketball court, weight room, built
Speaker 1: in aquarium. Well worth the money at fourteen point eighty five.
Speaker 1: But who steps up and buys that. I don't know
Speaker 1: how many people need that of space?
Speaker 6: You say, nineteen bathrooms, yes, sir, I think of the
Speaker 6: Sharman bill. But I guess if you get the yacht,
Speaker 6: you can afford the oil, right you put.
Speaker 1: The charman in a good two or three, and then
Speaker 1: the other ones can use the paper from a big lots.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, if it went basically a half price,
Speaker 6: you know, they knocked it down twenty nine. If they
Speaker 6: would have knocked it down another fourteen million, I would
Speaker 6: have bid on it.
Speaker 1: Eight eighty five.
Speaker 6: Yeah, eight fifty five.
Speaker 1: I could probably find something on that. You know. Hey,
Speaker 1: here's another one. Think of the landscaping bill, the upkeep.
Speaker 1: Oh man, you got to be an NBA superstar to
Speaker 1: afford it.
Speaker 6: Tennis court putting green infinity pool, which you could probably
Speaker 6: use like how many you know, three months out of
Speaker 6: the year in Chicago because you have to better all
Speaker 6: the way up through until June.
Speaker 1: Oh I guarantee it's heated.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's a nice thing. Well, I'm glad he's
Speaker 6: gonna sell it. You know, he needs the dove. You know,
Speaker 6: he won't eat spam anymore if he sells this.
Speaker 1: So that's great for Michael. You don't have to water
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Speaker 6: X at at nine five five Gary, let's see you're
Speaker 6: at leave.
Speaker 1: It's still big blue in cider one. Thank you, sir.
Speaker 1: And that'll do it for now, thanks to Gary, thanks
Speaker 1: to Jeremy Jarman and Dermini Dawson has been an all
Speaker 1: star lineup today. That's it. Good night from the garage
Speaker 1: and Lexingdon.
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