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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's nick coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, let's get the four o'clock hours started here

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<v Speaker 2>on a Wednesday afternoon. It is coffee and Company fuel

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<v Speaker 2>by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. I'm gonna stick

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<v Speaker 2>with something I mentioned last week that I said I

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<v Speaker 2>would do before it's all over. And it's all over

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<v Speaker 2>for me here soon, so no better day to do

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<v Speaker 2>it than today. I'll do this in the second segment.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't want to act as if like this

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<v Speaker 2>is some big thing, because you know, it's just my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>But somebody did ask me last week if I could

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<v Speaker 2>give the top five Louisville football and basketball players of

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<v Speaker 2>all time, and I did, five best Louisville basketball players

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<v Speaker 2>of my lifetime that I can remember, because again, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't watch Griff play.

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<v Speaker 3>I know he was great. I mean you could.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure some people still believe he's the best brother

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<v Speaker 2>that ever played here. But and I wouldn't disagree with that,

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<v Speaker 2>I just you know, I didn't watch him, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just basing it off of what I witnessed, an experience

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<v Speaker 2>because again that that's what makes it my opinion. So

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<v Speaker 2>and again that's not to say that my opinion would

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<v Speaker 2>differ if I did live in the eighties and watched

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<v Speaker 2>griff in that group and all that. But anyways, because

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<v Speaker 2>football is such a tricky thing as far as like

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many different positions, there's so many people on

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<v Speaker 2>the field to where like best football player of all

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<v Speaker 2>time is rarely ever a conversation anybody has, right, it's

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<v Speaker 2>best quarterback of all time, best receiver of all time,

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<v Speaker 2>and quite literally, there's not only a lot of different

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<v Speaker 2>positions in football than there is basketball. But you can

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<v Speaker 2>be a gardener forward and nobody really notices depending upon

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<v Speaker 2>you can just identifies whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't see position, just like we don't see gender. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>but when it comes to football, like you know, imagine

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<v Speaker 2>comparing an offensive lineman and a safety. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be able to do it as far as well,

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<v Speaker 2>he's the best player of all time, No he's not.

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<v Speaker 2>This safety is not the offensive lineman. So what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do is give you my top I think I

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<v Speaker 2>want to do top four because top five seems like

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<v Speaker 2>too many. It'd be tough to do, but top three

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<v Speaker 2>didn't seem like enough. I'm gonna do my top four

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<v Speaker 2>running backs, receivers, quarterbacks, and also defensive players, and it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be just based off the same thing what I watched

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<v Speaker 2>and sort of my experience as a fan. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to make it seem like I'm doing this

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<v Speaker 2>to be so self serving, but it was a request

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<v Speaker 2>that I got last week and then I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>put it off, and then they bumped it and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>are you gonna do this or not? So for this person,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm hope hopefully others will be interested as well,

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<v Speaker 2>because I last week I learned a lot of you

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<v Speaker 2>guys didn't agree with my top five basketball players. But

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<v Speaker 2>again it's just my opinion. And also if you paid

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<v Speaker 2>attention or maybe you just didn't catch the entire segment,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was only doing guys that I watched play,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So anyways, we'll do that coming up here

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<v Speaker 2>before too long. But if you are just not joining us,

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<v Speaker 2>we are still awaiting a decision formally from.

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<v Speaker 3>The man of the hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Otega away Kentucky's top returning player unless he's not, meaning

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<v Speaker 2>he's not returning to Kentucky, which I guess to be fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, he's in the draft and he's got to

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<v Speaker 2>remove himself from the draft, and the process to do

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<v Speaker 2>that is by submitting paperwork by midnight tonight, And he

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<v Speaker 2>might have already done it, it just hasn't been made public.

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<v Speaker 2>He may have, like as far the formal process could

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<v Speaker 2>have already happened. He just may not be itching to

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<v Speaker 2>tell anybody anything until later tonight. Maybe he's somebody that

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<v Speaker 2>likes to leave people in suspense. Maybe he really doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>know what he wants to do. That's what I have

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<v Speaker 2>a hard time believing. I mean, Austin, you were much

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<v Speaker 2>more recently at that age than I was. I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of feel like, at this point, wouldn't you, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't you know what you're gonna do at this point?

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<v Speaker 2>Because there's not much information that's gonna change. It could

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<v Speaker 2>just simply come down to you knowing both options and

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<v Speaker 2>just not being able to decide which one you'll want

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<v Speaker 2>to do. Because I think he's got to have at

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<v Speaker 2>least a gut feeling right by now, even if he

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't actually filed anything as far as coming back, he

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't told anybody anything definitively. Even if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 2>he probably knows what he's gonna do. But then you

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<v Speaker 2>would have to ask, Okay, well, if he wants to,

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<v Speaker 2>if he knows he's coming back, why not say anything.

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<v Speaker 3>It could be two things.

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<v Speaker 2>He's really just looking for a reason to leave and

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<v Speaker 2>not come back to Kentucky, or he likes to play

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<v Speaker 2>this role.

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<v Speaker 3>In leaving people in suspense.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I just I really can't see a

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<v Speaker 2>scenario where he would say, yeah, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>go back to Kentucky unless he didn't like Kentucky. And

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<v Speaker 2>I just have a hard time seeing that. What would

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<v Speaker 2>you do if you were in this position and you

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<v Speaker 2>were viewed as a late second round PICKT best, But

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<v Speaker 2>you could come back to Kentucky, be the man and

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<v Speaker 2>make a lot of money. Just to me, it seems

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<v Speaker 2>like an easy decision. With all that said, I hope

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<v Speaker 2>he does go go to the NPA.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it probably has to be the latter.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, stay, be the BMOC, right, the big man

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<v Speaker 4>on campus.

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<v Speaker 3>Get your money.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, And that's a good thing that be that super

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<v Speaker 4>senior and that's a good position to have, even if

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<v Speaker 4>you're not getting paid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you're living a great lifestyle. You're the man,

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<v Speaker 2>and now you're getting paid to be the man. Like

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<v Speaker 2>to me, it just seems like it's Kentucky too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, see like these young kids, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>these kids these days, at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 4>like the goal is to get to the league. I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like probably for like ninety nine percent of every

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<v Speaker 4>college basketball player, the dream is to be in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 4>And even though, like you know, tomorrow's not promised, so

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<v Speaker 4>you could probably just be told that. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 4>you stay another year, you probably bump up to a

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<v Speaker 4>first round guaranteed. But at this point you're already so close,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, they just may have that mentality of

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<v Speaker 4>you know, tomorrow's not guaranteed, to go ahead, to give

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<v Speaker 4>it a shot while I'm here, because this is, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>everything he's probably dreamed of since he's you know, started

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<v Speaker 4>playing basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I somebody mentioned this on the text line. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the Ellen and Federal Credit Union text line if

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<v Speaker 2>you guys would like to text in FABO two four

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<v Speaker 2>three eight ninety seventy three. Uh And and I knew

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<v Speaker 2>he had a brother that played in the NFL. Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned though that like, maybe the money thing is not

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<v Speaker 2>as much of a factor for him as it would

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<v Speaker 2>be others because his you know, his brother's been in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL for a long time and he's already you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know. So his brother plays for

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<v Speaker 2>the Ravens. He went to Penn State and was there

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<v Speaker 2>for a few years, and he's been with the Ravens

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<v Speaker 2>since twenty twenty one, was a first round pick, and

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<v Speaker 2>it does look like, yeah, I don't think he's like

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<v Speaker 2>a star for them, but he's somebody that since being

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<v Speaker 2>drafted has been has been with them, and they picked

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<v Speaker 2>up the latest option on his contract. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's a factor to where the money is not

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<v Speaker 2>as big of a thing to him. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't imagine he gets all his brother's money. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm just trying to think of a scenario where

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<v Speaker 2>this turns out to where he doesn't come back to Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>And it could mean if he doesn't, it just means

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't want to. And people are entitled to decide

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<v Speaker 2>whatever they want to do something I would love to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he considered something that you would never want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's differ. But when you consider the scenario, I just

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<v Speaker 2>think if he didn't come back, it would be because

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<v Speaker 2>of reasons that I just can't quite believe are real,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning that he doesn't like playing at Kentucky, that he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't think the team's going to be good next year,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe his draft stock would suffer from that. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he just hates college. And but even if all that's

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<v Speaker 2>the case, the financial component is what would make it

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<v Speaker 2>all worth it. Now, maybe somebody's onto something on the

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<v Speaker 2>text line that his NFL brother has you know, been

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<v Speaker 2>generous to where he's I mean, look O take always

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<v Speaker 2>probably already made a lot of money playing college basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>Therefore another year of doing it would be great. But

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<v Speaker 2>he also couldn't get paid doing something in basketball next

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<v Speaker 2>year if he did not sign with a like if

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<v Speaker 2>he signed a two way deal after being a second

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<v Speaker 2>round pick, I mean, he would still make good money.

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<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't be the big an IL check he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to get from Kentucky, but it would still be a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of money to someone that age. And again, he's

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<v Speaker 2>probably already put away a lot of money because he

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<v Speaker 2>played at Kentucky last year and was arguably their best player.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there is the This is something that I hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>really considered. And I heard I heard KSR talking about

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit this morning and that and Chris Livingston

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Who is that his name?

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<v Speaker 2>There was a Livingston that played at Kentucky for one

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<v Speaker 2>year and went pro his Yes, yes, that's him. There's

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<v Speaker 2>so many guys Cali Perry put into the NBA.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that the year?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, this was much more recent. He went to

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA draft and yeah, he got drafted by the

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<v Speaker 2>Bucks in the twenty twenty three drafts. So he played.

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<v Speaker 2>So he played on I guess it was on. It

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<v Speaker 2>was on the team that lost to Kansas State in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the second round, and he was a five

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<v Speaker 2>star recruit and it didn't work out. He later signed

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<v Speaker 2>with Rich Paul, the agent for Lebron, and they blamed

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<v Speaker 2>Cali Perry, which I really don't think that Cal had

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<v Speaker 2>anything to do with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Not.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that got played and just wasn't quite as

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<v Speaker 2>good and as he was supposed to be. What I'm

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<v Speaker 2>getting at is this could be a potential scenario because

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<v Speaker 2>he left and nil was already a thing and his

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<v Speaker 2>draft stock was not great. He ended up being the

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<v Speaker 2>fifty eighth overall pick, so he became a second He

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<v Speaker 2>was the second to last pick in the draft. He

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<v Speaker 2>kind of knew that's where his draft stock was, but

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<v Speaker 2>he had an agent that told him, if somebody takes

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<v Speaker 2>you in these late rounds, we're going to get it

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<v Speaker 2>worked out to where your deal is multi year, to

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<v Speaker 2>where you know, we're not going to have them guarantee

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<v Speaker 2>as much upfront, but they'll guarantee it over time. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the exact arrangements of his contract, but

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<v Speaker 2>he got a rare second round contract to where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>financially it wasn't it wasn't viewed as such a big risk,

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<v Speaker 2>This is a guy who was so highly regarded coming

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<v Speaker 2>out of high school and it so clearly didn't work

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<v Speaker 2>out for him in college as far as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>living up to expectations, to where if he comes back

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<v Speaker 2>to college for another year and he's once again underwhelming,

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<v Speaker 2>at that point, the NBA, they don't forget about you,

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<v Speaker 2>but they feel as if you've proven you weren't, you

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<v Speaker 2>weren't the guy, so we'll see. But again tonight at

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<v Speaker 2>midnight is the deadline. And again, if I had to guess,

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<v Speaker 2>being official, but as far as an announcement and notification

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<v Speaker 2>and acknowledgment, nobody's entitled to that.

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<v Speaker 3>It just depends on if he wants to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>He could do it and.

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<v Speaker 2>Make BBN very happy today, and I'm sure he will,

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<v Speaker 3>All right, so let's see where do we want to

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't something that maybe you found interesting, but I did,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is really rare. The early, I guess, the

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<v Speaker 2>early stages of this new world of college athletics with

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<v Speaker 2>NIL the portal where you basically have pro sports.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what it is, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You got free agency with the portal, and you got

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<v Speaker 2>big money within IL and it's professional sports.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're just told that it's not when we know

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<v Speaker 3>that it in fact is.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the early, the early years here, there's been

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<v Speaker 2>a study put together by CBS Sports that says elite

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<v Speaker 2>recruits and NFL draft. Yah says basically, if you are

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that's an elite recruit, you have a better chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Like so far, are the guys who have been elite

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<v Speaker 2>recruits and stayed at the school they went to have

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<v Speaker 2>a much better chance of getting to the NBA or

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<v Speaker 2>play of the NFL. And guys who are big time

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<v Speaker 2>recruits that end up, as you know, at a top school,

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<v Speaker 2>they end up transferring and I guess they technically still

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<v Speaker 2>could end up going to the NFL, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if that. What I found interesting here is that

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<v Speaker 2>there's two ways to look at it. One, if you

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<v Speaker 2>are as good as they say, no matter where you go,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll show it, you'll play. You don't have any need

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<v Speaker 2>to transfer because if you are as good as you may,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you go to a school and the team stinks

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<v Speaker 2>and you want to leave because of that reason or

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<v Speaker 2>a coaching change. But if you are really really good

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<v Speaker 2>and you end up at one of the top five

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<v Speaker 2>schools Ohio State, Georgia, Alabama, still, I mean Oregon. Just

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<v Speaker 2>think of the teams that have been the best in

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<v Speaker 2>college football the last seven eight years consistently. If you

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<v Speaker 2>are as good as advertised and you end up at

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<v Speaker 2>those schools, it'll all work out to where one you're

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<v Speaker 2>playing for a really good program and you're making a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of money, and then when you're ready, you'll go

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<v Speaker 2>to the NFL. So there's that way of looking at it,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning if you were a five star and you get

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<v Speaker 2>there and you don't play, it might mean you're not

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<v Speaker 2>good enough, and then you end up leaving and just.

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<v Speaker 3>Trying to start over.

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<v Speaker 2>There'll be guys who, by the way, five star recruits

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<v Speaker 2>that played a different school every year and they never

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<v Speaker 2>really showed that they were ever worth the ranking they

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<v Speaker 2>got coming out of high school, but they're still living

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<v Speaker 2>off of that and getting opportunities because well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that nobody wanted. But anyways, there's the other side I'm

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<v Speaker 2>don't even have the chance to play right away if

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<v Speaker 2>you're really really good young.

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<v Speaker 3>Because a guy that's really really really.

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<v Speaker 2>Good but he's twenty two and he's a senior is

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<v Speaker 2>going to play over a guy who's really good and

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<v Speaker 2>has a lot of future, has a lot of upside,

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<v Speaker 2>big time future, but just not ready yet. Like you,

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<v Speaker 2>just because the portal makes it to where you can

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<v Speaker 2>load up with veterans every year. Now, guys stick around

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<v Speaker 2>in college more so because they can make money. Then

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<v Speaker 2>there's not the pressure to go to the NFL and

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<v Speaker 2>make money. They can make money in college. So because

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<v Speaker 2>of that, it's just much more difficult to get opportunities

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<v Speaker 2>early on at the bigger schools unless you are elite

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<v Speaker 2>of the elite of the elite. Like I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if Isaac Brown and Duke Watson chose Louisville specifically because

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<v Speaker 2>of this. Maybe it had nothing to do with it

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<v Speaker 2>at all, but those guys probably would have had a

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<v Speaker 2>harder time getting on the field right away at a

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<v Speaker 2>place like Texas, at a place like Georgia, at a

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<v Speaker 2>place like Alabama or Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 3>Now maybe not.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they would have shown how good they are and

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<v Speaker 2>it would have all played out. But I think there

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<v Speaker 2>are schools in that tier that Louisville's in right now.

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<v Speaker 2>You're certainly not a power program, you're certainly not flirting

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<v Speaker 2>with a national championship, but you're good and you've I

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<v Speaker 2>guess not for too long. But like but bram he

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<v Speaker 2>sustained success up to this point, and by all signs,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't look like it's going to stop. So you

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<v Speaker 2>could benefit from getting guys who look at a crowded

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<v Speaker 2>position spot at a bigger program. And if you've got

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<v Speaker 2>an il money and you've got still a power for

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<v Speaker 2>program to play in and you've got a bigger opportunity there,

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<v Speaker 2>I think kids would be foolish enough to take advantage

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<v Speaker 2>of that because going and sitting can work out as

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<v Speaker 2>far as development. But why would you do that when

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<v Speaker 2>you can go and play, get better, make money, and

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<v Speaker 2>then kind of restart your recruiting process all over again

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<v Speaker 2>once you've shown what you can do. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>would hope that you wouldn't do that if you end

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<v Speaker 2>up at a place like Louisville, because I'm a Louisville fan.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you did, I wouldn't be shocked because again,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's like the players have all the control now.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, this this study says that I'll read directly

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<v Speaker 2>here says the CBS Sports study, analyzing seven years of

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<v Speaker 2>INNSTAA transfer portal data twenty eighteen to twenty twenty three

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<v Speaker 2>for elite high school recruits, reveals that transferring schools may

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<v Speaker 2>reduce their NFL draft prospects.

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<v Speaker 3>So the draft rates.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, non transfers from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>that were top of the twenty four to seven sports

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<v Speaker 2>classes were drafted at fifty three point six percent compared

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<v Speaker 2>to eleven point four percent for transfers. So among the

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred and seven drafted the top players, only sixty

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<v Speaker 2>one were transferred. So and again, look, that's probably data

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<v Speaker 2>that would exist if the portal existed twenty years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>because let's be real, a lot of times these guys

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<v Speaker 2>who were built as five star recruits don't end up

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<v Speaker 2>being five star recruits. And I don't say that to

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<v Speaker 2>knock the people who are who are you know, evaluating

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<v Speaker 2>high school players, because hey, it's it's it's it's important.

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<v Speaker 2>Clearly there's a market for it. But I think you

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<v Speaker 2>can know as much as anybody's ever known about football

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<v Speaker 2>and still have a tough time determining, you know, who

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<v Speaker 2>the best four hundred players are in America. Like, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's impossible, if I'm being honest with you. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>there are certain people that you see that you just know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can just tell, but that there's not many of those.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, I think there's still always going to be

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<v Speaker 2>this intrigue and excitement from fans about a guy in

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<v Speaker 2>the portal that came from Georgia, that came from Florida,

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<v Speaker 2>that came from Michigan or usc.

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<v Speaker 3>And not.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I don't want to indicate that you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be excited. But if they have been there two years

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<v Speaker 2>and the best thing you can say is they were

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<v Speaker 2>at the school and they had a big time ranking

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<v Speaker 2>coming out of high school, the reality is this, you

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<v Speaker 2>have no clue what you're getting. You may get a

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<v Speaker 2>guy who just at your level is better fit to

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<v Speaker 2>have success, that it was too crowded his position, or

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<v Speaker 2>you could get a guy who wasn't nearly as good

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<v Speaker 2>as anybody thought he was, or maybe he got to

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<v Speaker 2>college and didn't have the resources around him that made

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<v Speaker 2>him work hard. I mean, you just never know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Louisville has in recent years landed both sides.

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<v Speaker 2>They've landed guys who have come from a bigger program

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<v Speaker 2>and man, they came in and balled out ja Corey

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<v Speaker 2>Brooks last year at receiver. They met some other guys

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<v Speaker 2>who came in that were coming from a bigger program

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<v Speaker 2>that they just couldn't get a lot of action because

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<v Speaker 2>it was too competitive and they weren't good and left.

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<v Speaker 3>I can think of the young man's name.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a kid who transfer from Georgia that was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a former I think he was like a

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<v Speaker 2>top twenty player overall, and in the end he ended

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<v Speaker 2>up transferring. Louisll couldn't get on the field and he's

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<v Speaker 2>already left.

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<v Speaker 3>You just never know.

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<v Speaker 2>Our quick break will come back on the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep this thing rolling along. It's coffee and company. Feel

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<v Speaker 2>about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven to nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Day or one thing to add to the conversation. We

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<v Speaker 2>were just having a moment ago about the I guess

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<v Speaker 2>the numbers here as far as guys who have been

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<v Speaker 2>able to transfer once or even twice and still get

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<v Speaker 2>to the NFL. It happens, but give a much better

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<v Speaker 2>chance of being drafted. And I don't think it's because

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL is looking at you as damaged goods or

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that has baggage because you've transferred. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't do that because nowadays guys are going to transfer

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<v Speaker 2>and look out for themselves, as they should. But there

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<v Speaker 2>are only two players in this era, meaning the early

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<v Speaker 2>era of the portal and nil, where players have transferred

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<v Speaker 2>more than twice and ended up still getting drafted.

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<v Speaker 3>One of those.

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<v Speaker 2>Players was Tyler Stock, who of course was a big

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<v Speaker 2>time recruit and ended up at Oregon, then at Texas Tech,

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<v Speaker 2>and then at Louisville. And then the other one was

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler Barron, who also ended up at Louisville. He was

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<v Speaker 2>at Tennessee, came to Louisville, and then I think he

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<v Speaker 2>transferred to Miami. I believe that's where he ended up

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<v Speaker 2>last year, and he was drafted pretty early in this

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<v Speaker 2>last draft. So he's one of those guys that came

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<v Speaker 2>in and was here for a semester and left, so

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't necessarily count. I guess Chuck would be Chuck

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<v Speaker 2>would I guess that would make Shuck the only player

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<v Speaker 2>in the portal era that has transferred more than twice

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe even more than once and ended up being drafted.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that doesn't sound like a thing, but I

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<v Speaker 2>trust CBS Sports as data, and again I'm not just

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not just looking for this. This was just an

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<v Speaker 2>article that broke down just the numbers, and they mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>those two guys, and I guess technically Tyler Baron counts,

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<v Speaker 2>but he you know, he didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's coffee and company. Feel about Thorton's on Sports Talk

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<v Speaker 2>seven ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with us. Let's get

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<v Speaker 2>to some basketball news. Because of this, I'm gonna put

427
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<v Speaker 2>off the whole top player thing until the five o'clock hour.

428
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<v Speaker 2>But the ACC just dropped the conference schedules on us,

429
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<v Speaker 2>which I guess they kind of did but kind of didn't.

430
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<v Speaker 2>We have now who Louisville is going to play, and

431
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<v Speaker 2>who they're going to play twice, which teams they're gonna

432
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<v Speaker 2>get only at home, which teams they're going to get

433
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<v Speaker 2>only away.

434
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<v Speaker 3>And I mean, I kind.

435
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<v Speaker 2>Of feel like this worked out really well, and as

436
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<v Speaker 2>as I was hoping, and as others reported, it will

437
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<v Speaker 2>in fact be Louisville and Duke being repeat opponents this year.

438
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<v Speaker 2>So the way in which they're doing it, if they

439
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<v Speaker 2>eliminated two conference games from the ACC schedule starting this year,

440
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<v Speaker 2>you will play sixteen team or you will play sixteen

441
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<v Speaker 2>games all right. Wait, wait a say, let me see

442
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<v Speaker 2>he let go we go one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.

443
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<v Speaker 2>You'll play fourteen games again, so seven and homes, seven

444
00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:07.200
<v Speaker 2>and away against different teams once, and then you'll play

445
00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:11.960
<v Speaker 2>annually one team twice. Louisville got SMU as their repeat opponent,

446
00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:14.640
<v Speaker 2>and then every year you're gonna get a random team

447
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<v Speaker 2>that you play twice to mix it up. And it

448
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<v Speaker 2>makes total sense for Duke and Louisville to be gifted

449
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<v Speaker 2>with one another on the schedule. And I say that

450
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<v Speaker 2>because you want the best conference schedule that you can.

451
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<v Speaker 2>And who knows if Louisville ends up being as good

452
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<v Speaker 2>as expected or even if Duke does. But these two

453
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<v Speaker 2>teams played in the conference championship last year, so I

454
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<v Speaker 2>like it. Clearly Duke was gonna get Carolina twice regardless

455
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<v Speaker 2>because they're always going to play twice. So I think,

456
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<v Speaker 2>all things considered, with the SEC being down, the fact

457
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<v Speaker 2>that you get Duke twice gives you, you know, it

458
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<v Speaker 2>could mean that you I mean, having the opportunity is

459
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<v Speaker 2>a good thing. You want the opportunity, but there's also

460
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<v Speaker 2>a huge challenge with set opportunity, right, Like you could

461
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<v Speaker 2>have like here's a scenario that could absolutely play out

462
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<v Speaker 2>next year. I'm not saying it will or even that

463
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<v Speaker 2>it's but it's realistic that Duke is by far the

464
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<v Speaker 2>only really good team in the country next year from

465
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<v Speaker 2>the ACC, and you played them twice and you lost

466
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<v Speaker 2>both times because they're just that good. And then Louisville

467
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<v Speaker 2>won a lot of games and they were good, but

468
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<v Speaker 2>they didn't have anybody on the schedule that was really

469
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<v Speaker 2>that challenging because the ACC isn't great, So that could

470
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<v Speaker 2>leave you sort of in a situation you were in

471
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<v Speaker 2>this past year. I mean, Clemson being your best win

472
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<v Speaker 2>twice was pretty telling for your resume. Doesn't mean you're

473
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<v Speaker 2>not great. It just you know, there was two ways

474
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<v Speaker 2>the committee could look at your resume last year, and

475
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<v Speaker 2>Louisville clearly did not get the benefit of the doubt,

476
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<v Speaker 2>and I believe it's because the conference they play in,

477
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<v Speaker 2>and the only real issue I have with that because

478
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<v Speaker 2>there was really nothing on Louisville's resume that gives you

479
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<v Speaker 2>real proof that they're a really good team, but there's

480
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<v Speaker 2>also really nothing that says they're not.

481
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<v Speaker 3>It was a pretty.

482
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<v Speaker 2>Open to interpretation resume, if that makes sense, Like it's

483
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<v Speaker 2>just however you want to look at it, whatever you

484
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<v Speaker 2>want to believe, you could convince yourself. So if you

485
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<v Speaker 2>end up just not being able to beat Duke and

486
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<v Speaker 2>there's not a whole lot of value elsewhere that would be,

487
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<v Speaker 2>that would be less than ideal. But I do believe

488
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<v Speaker 2>that the ACC is going to take a step forward

489
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<v Speaker 2>in basketball this year, mostly because there's no way it

490
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<v Speaker 2>can be.

491
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<v Speaker 3>As bad as it was a year ago.

492
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<v Speaker 2>But the issue is that if teams like Virginia, teams

493
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<v Speaker 2>like NC State, teams like Syracuse, even wake Forest, Miami Pitt,

494
00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:37.359
<v Speaker 2>if they take a step forward, I mean, that's better

495
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<v Speaker 2>than taking a step backwards. But are they good enough

496
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<v Speaker 2>to where you're going to really get value when it

497
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<v Speaker 2>comes to the metrics and of course just you know,

498
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<v Speaker 2>I think people know what truly is a good win

499
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<v Speaker 2>and what's not. And I took some heat last year

500
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<v Speaker 2>because I was so impressed with Louisville in the month

501
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<v Speaker 2>of January. I knew they weren't beating good teams. Though

502
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<v Speaker 2>didn't mean I didn't think they were good. I didn't

503
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<v Speaker 2>think the teams they played were very good, and clearly

504
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<v Speaker 2>the committee didn't either, and it played out that way.

505
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<v Speaker 2>So my point is, I think the ACC could be

506
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<v Speaker 2>a lot better next year, but the expectation that it's

507
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<v Speaker 2>just gonna show up for him on selection Sunday, I

508
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<v Speaker 2>really don't know. What I think is gonna be a

509
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<v Speaker 2>really really big opportunity early on in the ACC is

510
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<v Speaker 2>to compete with the SEC in the annual ACC SEC Challenge.

511
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<v Speaker 2>Because the SEC is going to take a step back,

512
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<v Speaker 2>it's not going to be as dominant as it was

513
00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:34.519
<v Speaker 2>last year, but it'll still be a really good league

514
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<v Speaker 2>and should be for years to come. I mean, Kentucky,

515
00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:41.759
<v Speaker 2>we know they're expected to be pretty damn good. Florida's

516
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<v Speaker 2>getting back Alex Condon and they got Boogie Flanned so

517
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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee and Rick Barnes, I mean, they're always good. And

518
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<v Speaker 2>maybe Nate what's his name? Nata meant maybe he ends

519
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<v Speaker 2>up being elite. You also have Calan Arkansas. I don't

520
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<v Speaker 2>know how great they're gonna be, but he's always gonna

521
00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:04.519
<v Speaker 2>have talent. How about Bruce Pearl and Auburn, They actually

522
00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I think will take a step back, but either way,

523
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<v Speaker 2>like that's gonna be even if the SEC is down

524
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<v Speaker 2>substantially from last year, meaning as far as getting the

525
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<v Speaker 2>amount of teams in the tournam let's just say they

526
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<v Speaker 2>don't have near the amount of teams in play for

527
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<v Speaker 2>the tournament, which again the amount of how many teams

528
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:24.359
<v Speaker 2>made the tournament last year from the SEC. I mean

529
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<v Speaker 2>it was a record clearly for them, and I believe

530
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<v Speaker 2>in college basketball. So let's say five of those teams

531
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<v Speaker 2>don't make the tournament, you'd still have a good number.

532
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<v Speaker 2>And if you are competitive, meaning not only were you

533
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<v Speaker 2>competitive in the series where the ACC held its own,

534
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<v Speaker 2>but let's say you actually went out and beat some

535
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<v Speaker 2>of the good teams that you played, meaning you didn't

536
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<v Speaker 2>just have a decent record because your bad teams beat

537
00:25:50.440 --> 00:25:52.799
<v Speaker 2>their bad teams like you actually like whoever ends up

538
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<v Speaker 2>getting matched up with the top six teams in the

539
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<v Speaker 2>SEC and the ACC SEC Challenge. If you can pete there,

540
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:02.799
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna go a long way for you when you

541
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<v Speaker 2>get to conference play, because when you beat up on

542
00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:07.920
<v Speaker 2>each other in league play, you just can decide whatever

543
00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:10.079
<v Speaker 2>you want as far as what it means, Oh, it

544
00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:12.079
<v Speaker 2>means this league's just so good, wins are just so

545
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:16.720
<v Speaker 2>tough to come by, or does it mean that everybody's average?

546
00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:19.200
<v Speaker 2>And if this team and that team are that special,

547
00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:21.079
<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't have slipped up and lost six or seven

548
00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:23.720
<v Speaker 2>league games. So what you do in the non conference

549
00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:27.799
<v Speaker 2>means a lot, and it always has and should. But

550
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<v Speaker 2>I know teams are different by the time you get

551
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<v Speaker 2>to January February than they are when you play non

552
00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:36.200
<v Speaker 2>conference games in November and December. But it doesn't matter.

553
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<v Speaker 2>It still counts. It's still a data point that will

554
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<v Speaker 2>either hurt you or help you, or I guess potentially

555
00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:47.960
<v Speaker 2>just leave you whatever. All right, So let's see, I

556
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<v Speaker 2>want to make sure I have this correct. So Louisville

557
00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:54.319
<v Speaker 2>schedule at home this year again, I'm liking what I see. Again,

558
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<v Speaker 2>Duke being a repeat opponent is exciting to me. But

559
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<v Speaker 2>the home games are going to be against you know,

560
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:02.440
<v Speaker 2>you have Duke Wants an SMU once at home and

561
00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:03.920
<v Speaker 2>then you played them at their place. But then the

562
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<v Speaker 2>home opponents are Syracuse, Boston College, Notre Dame, Virginia Tech, Virginia,

563
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<v Speaker 2>n C State.

564
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:13.440
<v Speaker 3>Georgia Tech.

565
00:27:13.480 --> 00:27:16.559
<v Speaker 2>That means you're going to play on the road Carolina,

566
00:27:16.599 --> 00:27:23.839
<v Speaker 2>Wake Forest, Clemson, Miami, Pittsburgh, Stanford, and col. So if

567
00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:26.160
<v Speaker 2>we were going to look at this and hope for

568
00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:31.240
<v Speaker 2>big opportunities at home to beat good teams, but also

569
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<v Speaker 2>you know, have an attractive matchup that'll bring a decent crowd.

570
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if Louisll keeps winning, there's gonna be good

571
00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:39.799
<v Speaker 2>crowds there. I mean, there were great crowds there towards

572
00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:42.160
<v Speaker 2>the end of the season, and they grew every week

573
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:43.880
<v Speaker 2>by the way, So I think louis was gonna do

574
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<v Speaker 2>their part. But to have an environment to where you

575
00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:48.480
<v Speaker 2>feel like it's a big game, it's tough to really

576
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<v Speaker 2>envision that because again, as we discussed, the SEC just

577
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<v Speaker 2>or the ACC just hasn't been great recently. But I

578
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<v Speaker 2>mean Syracuse that's a that's I mean, that's they're not

579
00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:58.680
<v Speaker 2>they've not been good lately. But like Syracuse, Notre Dame,

580
00:27:58.759 --> 00:28:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Virginia and NC State are teams that I feel like

581
00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:04.400
<v Speaker 2>they give you something. As far as them showing up now,

582
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<v Speaker 2>the likes of Stanford and Cal's that those wouldn't do it,

583
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<v Speaker 2>And that's why you're going out to the West to

584
00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:11.559
<v Speaker 2>play them this year. It would be nice to have

585
00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:13.599
<v Speaker 2>Carolina at home because they're a team that clearly is

586
00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:15.759
<v Speaker 2>going to bring some interest other than just Louisville fans.

587
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:19.799
<v Speaker 2>So I just can't wait to see you end up

588
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<v Speaker 2>with in the acc SEC Challenge because there's a good

589
00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:25.839
<v Speaker 2>chance it's gonna be somebody good because they like they

590
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:28.000
<v Speaker 2>pair you up pretty competitively. Right, It's not like you're

591
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<v Speaker 2>gonna I mean, Louisville getting South Carolina would be odd

592
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:35.119
<v Speaker 2>to me, or Vandy even even though Bandy actually was

593
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:40.759
<v Speaker 2>pretty decent last year. So right now you're you know,

594
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:44.240
<v Speaker 2>this isn't today's news. Is not anything regarding your conference schedule.

595
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:54.920
<v Speaker 2>But in the non conference, you've got Kentucky, Tennessee, Cincinnati, Memphis,

596
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<v Speaker 2>somebody in the acc SEC Challenge, which I think it

597
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:02.119
<v Speaker 2>was Bose that you reported that he believes it's going

598
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:04.480
<v Speaker 2>to be Duke. I'm sorry, he believes it's going to

599
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:05.920
<v Speaker 2>be Arkansas. Which if that's the case, then you go

600
00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:08.440
<v Speaker 2>down to Fayetteville. I mean, Cal will likely give you.

601
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:11.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, even if Cal and Arkansas end up being

602
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:14.279
<v Speaker 2>middle of the pack in the SEC because of the

603
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:17.000
<v Speaker 2>conference being so good, if you beat them at their place,

604
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:19.559
<v Speaker 2>even if they're not even a tournament team, it's probably

605
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:21.519
<v Speaker 2>going to qualify as at Quad one because they're going

606
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:23.400
<v Speaker 2>to probably be in the top seventy five just based

607
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:27.079
<v Speaker 2>off their schedule and then you throw Duke on there twice.

608
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:29.000
<v Speaker 2>So again, take away the conference non conference. I mean,

609
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:30.519
<v Speaker 2>maybe there ends up being some really good teams in

610
00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:34.359
<v Speaker 2>the ACC this year, but that's seven games against teams

611
00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:36.759
<v Speaker 2>that should give you some value. And I know Cincinnati

612
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:40.680
<v Speaker 2>and Memphis aren't great signature non conference opponents, but I

613
00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:43.559
<v Speaker 2>guess the hope is that they end up being. And

614
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:45.759
<v Speaker 2>I forgot to include Indiana, by the way, that's another

615
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:47.960
<v Speaker 2>team that I think Darian Devreez is a really good coach,

616
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:51.759
<v Speaker 2>and that should give you another chance. So last year

617
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:54.240
<v Speaker 2>you were competitive in some of the games, some of

618
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:57.640
<v Speaker 2>them not so much, but you were able to claim

619
00:29:57.720 --> 00:30:03.000
<v Speaker 2>for a good chunk of the year that the resume

620
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:06.200
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have a real blemish outside of the at the

621
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:10.720
<v Speaker 2>time the Georgia Tech loss. And yeah, you played some

622
00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:12.880
<v Speaker 2>of the teams competitively, some of them beat you really bad.

623
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<v Speaker 2>But what I'm getting at is I think a step

624
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:17.720
<v Speaker 2>next year would be, you know, beat these teams, which

625
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:19.240
<v Speaker 2>of course that's always the goal, and I'm sure the

626
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:21.319
<v Speaker 2>oolve is gonna have a roster that will put them

627
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:22.680
<v Speaker 2>in a position to where they can do it, but

628
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:26.440
<v Speaker 2>I think that had to be if it wasn't truly

629
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<v Speaker 2>just a mix up and a goof on the NCAA

630
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<v Speaker 2>Selection Committee's part where they just swapped Memphis in Louisville

631
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<v Speaker 2>on selection Sunday and didn't fix it in time, which

632
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<v Speaker 2>I say that tongue in cheek, but I also kind

633
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<v Speaker 2>of believe it kind of. But I think now that

634
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<v Speaker 2>more time has passed, I mean, Louisvill's resume left open

635
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:47.480
<v Speaker 2>the opportunity for the committee to do two different things.

636
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:48.599
<v Speaker 3>Could have given them a.

637
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:52.519
<v Speaker 2>Four or five, right, because well, they played in the

638
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:55.759
<v Speaker 2>ACC Championship. They went eighteen to two, and you know,

639
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:59.599
<v Speaker 2>they don't have any bad losses and they could give

640
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:01.759
<v Speaker 2>them a four, or they could give them an eight

641
00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:06.680
<v Speaker 2>or an eight like they did and claim, well it

642
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:08.799
<v Speaker 2>it was a great bounce back season for Louisvill or

643
00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:11.240
<v Speaker 2>whatever they said. I'm paraphrasing, but you know, there wasn't

644
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:14.960
<v Speaker 2>as much Quad one wins, so I didn't expect this.

645
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:16.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this was a known thing that

646
00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:18.400
<v Speaker 2>they were going to announce this, but seeing it certainly

647
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:23.400
<v Speaker 2>gets me excited for for basketball season, and again, n

648
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:25.400
<v Speaker 2>C State should be a lot better with Will Wade.

649
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:29.119
<v Speaker 2>I think Virginia is going to be good. But what

650
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I want, what I wonder are these teams that I

651
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:34.079
<v Speaker 2>think are going to be like I think you'll see

652
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:40.119
<v Speaker 2>a team like Virginia in C in C State Carolina,

653
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:44.359
<v Speaker 2>maybe even I don't know, maybe an SMU like. I

654
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:46.559
<v Speaker 2>think those are the kind of teams that we'll be.

655
00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:49.720
<v Speaker 2>We'll be able to hopefully avoid losing to the bottom

656
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:53.720
<v Speaker 2>of the league to where you know your your fifth

657
00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:56.519
<v Speaker 2>place team or your fourth place team's only got four

658
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:58.920
<v Speaker 2>or five losses. But what it's ultimately going to come

659
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:01.039
<v Speaker 2>down to, Okay, does the committee I view this as

660
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:05.319
<v Speaker 2>a one elite team league with just some others that

661
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:07.559
<v Speaker 2>are just you know, better than the Bombs, or do

662
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:09.839
<v Speaker 2>they view it as an actually strong league that's deserving

663
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:12.920
<v Speaker 2>of not only multiple bids, but decent seeds for the

664
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:15.160
<v Speaker 2>others that aren't the Dukes or maybe even the Louisvilles,

665
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:18.240
<v Speaker 2>and where they can really determine that outside of their metric,

666
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:21.240
<v Speaker 2>meaning the net is what you do in non conference play.

667
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:23.119
<v Speaker 2>That's why it's so important. And we've never been in

668
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:24.599
<v Speaker 2>this spot before as lois fans, at least that I

669
00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:27.319
<v Speaker 2>can think of, used to play in the Big East

670
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:32.240
<v Speaker 2>when it was loaded the ACC until recently, and you

671
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:34.440
<v Speaker 2>could do whatever in the non conference. I shouldn't say whatever,

672
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:36.599
<v Speaker 2>but you could be You could just expect to have

673
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.119
<v Speaker 2>so many opportunities to really boost your resume night in

674
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:41.160
<v Speaker 2>and night out in the ACC, and they just hadn't

675
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:43.240
<v Speaker 2>be in the case recently. Our quick break will go

676
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:44.680
<v Speaker 2>back and wrap up the four o'clock hour right here

677
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<v Speaker 2>on Sports Talk seven ninety.

678
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:50.039
<v Speaker 1>Now back to Coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's on

679
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine.

680
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:58.759
<v Speaker 2>Day, Another day in Paradise Coffee and Company, fueled by

681
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Thornton's also known I guess says paradise to maybe some

682
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:07.519
<v Speaker 2>of you, certainly me, hopefully hopefully Austin as well, and

683
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:11.720
<v Speaker 2>we'll we'll take advantage of the days that are left here.

684
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:15.839
<v Speaker 2>I had another morning where I well, I don't even

685
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:18.119
<v Speaker 2>consider it morning. If I wake up at three something,

686
00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:20.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's morning. I think it's middle of

687
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:22.960
<v Speaker 2>the night. But soon that'll be my reality to where

688
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:26.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm not getting up to use the restroom or get

689
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:28.480
<v Speaker 2>something to drink. I'm getting up to start the day.

690
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:32.200
<v Speaker 2>I've been trying to go to bed really early this week,

691
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:34.720
<v Speaker 2>but I can't do it.

692
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:38.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean it never works, never works for school because

693
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:39.720
<v Speaker 3>it's a mental thing, right.

694
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:41.640
<v Speaker 4>And then you're like, you're trying to go to bed

695
00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:43.880
<v Speaker 4>at like nine p thirty ten, and just the thought

696
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:46.880
<v Speaker 4>of like the world's still going on around you while

697
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:48.599
<v Speaker 4>you got to go to sleep, and that just that

698
00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:49.400
<v Speaker 4>bothers me.

699
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think for most, I'm sure there are

700
00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:57.319
<v Speaker 2>some that are really self disciplined and really can I

701
00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:01.640
<v Speaker 2>guess before the routine and schedule changes, you've made the

702
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:04.160
<v Speaker 2>adjustment already, and if so, props to you. But I

703
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.480
<v Speaker 2>think for most you end up paying the price early

704
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.760
<v Speaker 2>and then it evens itself out because you'll try to

705
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:13.400
<v Speaker 2>go to bed really early, just like you did back

706
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.079
<v Speaker 2>when you were young Austin to go to school because

707
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:16.440
<v Speaker 2>you knew you had to get up and you know,

708
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:17.119
<v Speaker 2>get on the.

709
00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:19.800
<v Speaker 3>Bus and go to school. But you're used to throughout the.

710
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Summer month staying up till like, you know, five am

711
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:23.599
<v Speaker 2>or something, which that may have been a rarity, but

712
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:24.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you.

713
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:25.599
<v Speaker 3>Did it a time or two. Right now, there's a

714
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:28.360
<v Speaker 3>lot of all nighters. Yeah, I mean high school Austin.

715
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:31.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh, dude, middle school, high school kids. I don't know

716
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:34.159
<v Speaker 2>if it's still a thing now. But if you're not

717
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:36.440
<v Speaker 2>careful as parents, sure kids will literally just live a

718
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:39.599
<v Speaker 2>third a third shift life. I'm not kidding, you know

719
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:41.440
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, Like they're up all day. I'm sorry,

720
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:44.039
<v Speaker 2>they're up all night, they sleep all day, and then

721
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:45.760
<v Speaker 2>it's just as that. That's if they don't have any

722
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:49.239
<v Speaker 2>responsibilities as far as like doing summer school or a

723
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:54.480
<v Speaker 2>job or playing sports or whatnot, then that's just I mean,

724
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:57.320
<v Speaker 2>that's and also I stayed up way late on summer

725
00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:00.159
<v Speaker 2>nights whenever we had early basketball, but I it was

726
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:02.679
<v Speaker 2>also sixteen or seventeen where it didn't. It never never

727
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:04.639
<v Speaker 2>felt different. You know, I could live off a few

728
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:05.400
<v Speaker 2>hours sleep.

729
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:05.800
<v Speaker 3>And be fine.

730
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:09.480
<v Speaker 2>But when you I mean, I just can see this happening.

731
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I'll try to go to bed as early as possible

732
00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:14.400
<v Speaker 2>over these next couple of weeks, and it won't be

733
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:17.000
<v Speaker 2>easy early, But then because I've been up so long,

734
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I'll just start naturally falling asleep a little bit earlier,

735
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:24.239
<v Speaker 2>and it'll it'll work itself out to an extent where

736
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:26.519
<v Speaker 2>it's routine. But again, I don't think they'll ever be

737
00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:30.079
<v Speaker 2>a moment where you see the alarm going off pre

738
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:33.480
<v Speaker 2>four am and think, here we go. I've been because

739
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:37.440
<v Speaker 2>like now I can sometimes. In fact, this morning, I

740
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:40.000
<v Speaker 2>mean this morning, because I knew once I got up

741
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:42.400
<v Speaker 2>at whatever that I'm gonna you know, the walk back

742
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:44.280
<v Speaker 2>to the bedroom wasn't okay, Nick, go ahead and get

743
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:45.679
<v Speaker 2>in the shower, get that day started.

744
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:48.239
<v Speaker 3>Change is coming soon, brother, you better get after it.

745
00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I was, okay, I'm gonna take advantage of the few

746
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:52.000
<v Speaker 2>days i have level where I can go lay back down.

747
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:54.760
<v Speaker 2>That's what I decided to do at about three point

748
00:35:54.760 --> 00:36:01.519
<v Speaker 2>thirty this morning. But you know, overall, I there's no way.

749
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:03.320
<v Speaker 3>It gets it gets it gets easy.

750
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:05.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there just can't be a scenario where you

751
00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:07.960
<v Speaker 2>ever see that time and you're thinking, okay, you know,

752
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:09.880
<v Speaker 2>here we here we go. I can already tell in

753
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:12.079
<v Speaker 2>my mind, I'm gonna be getting ready for you're gonna

754
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:13.559
<v Speaker 2>be getting ready in the morning, and like, oh man,

755
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:16.800
<v Speaker 2>i cannot wait till nine o'clock hits. I'm out of there.

756
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:21.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm coming home and I'm sleeping, and I probably won't.

757
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:24.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean I may sometimes, but I probably I probably won't.

758
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I meant to ask Cruiz this, and I guess I

759
00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:28.480
<v Speaker 2>can uh at some point. It's not like he's leaving.

760
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:30.800
<v Speaker 2>He's just retiring. He's still gonna be you know. I mean,

761
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:32.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm still gonna have access to him if I need him.

762
00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:36.800
<v Speaker 2>But I'm curious if if it was if it was

763
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:39.239
<v Speaker 2>ever like a situation where you've been up, you've been

764
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:41.400
<v Speaker 2>doing things, and you just decided to come here and

765
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:42.679
<v Speaker 2>sleep for the night. I mean, I don't even if

766
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:44.880
<v Speaker 2>they'd let you do that, I don't think they were before. Yeah,

767
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:47.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I I know people who've done it for

768
00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:50.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, just because of it was it didn't make

769
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:54.639
<v Speaker 2>a lot of sense to drive home and sleep for

770
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:57.639
<v Speaker 2>two hours and come right back in. And there's plenty

771
00:36:57.639 --> 00:36:59.239
<v Speaker 2>of hiding places in here where you could find a

772
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:01.519
<v Speaker 2>spot to sleep, and no, but he would notice that, You're.

773
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:03.519
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to think.

774
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Of where I could where I could hide out. Honestly,

775
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:07.920
<v Speaker 2>this studio is a studio, is a cave?

776
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:10.519
<v Speaker 3>Is it not? And is it is used in the

777
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:11.760
<v Speaker 3>morning by Shannon?

778
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it's the only studio that I feel like, Well,

779
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:19.119
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say it probably gets the least traffic

780
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.440
<v Speaker 2>compared to any others, but maybe that's the exact opposite

781
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:25.199
<v Speaker 2>because we are near the kitchen area. But you really

782
00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:27.440
<v Speaker 2>don't walk, you walk past it, but you kind of don't,

783
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:29.480
<v Speaker 2>if that makes sense, like if you're going to the

784
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:32.119
<v Speaker 2>bathroom or you're just walking down, like if you're coming

785
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:34.519
<v Speaker 2>from our area of all of where all the cubicles are,

786
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:36.639
<v Speaker 2>and I guess they're not really cubicles, but just our

787
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:39.760
<v Speaker 2>work area, the common area, if you will. You're walking

788
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:42.119
<v Speaker 2>past every studio really other than this one directly. So

789
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:43.719
<v Speaker 2>maybe this will be where I come and hang out.

790
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:46.480
<v Speaker 2>But hopefully I get on a routine and I because

791
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:49.440
<v Speaker 2>what I what I talk about all the time is

792
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:53.000
<v Speaker 2>being so crucial and important is something I sometimes really

793
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:56.119
<v Speaker 2>struggle with, and that is the you know, just not

794
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:59.239
<v Speaker 2>being a routine, not you know, not managed, not managing

795
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:01.360
<v Speaker 2>time as well as I need to, and that show

796
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:03.480
<v Speaker 2>that plays out every day on this show, for being

797
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:06.039
<v Speaker 2>honest with me, not taking breaks when I'm supposed to.

798
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:09.840
<v Speaker 2>But I think what's happened is that I don't get

799
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:15.079
<v Speaker 2>up now and like have to be anywhere other than

800
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:17.519
<v Speaker 2>my kids at school by eight thirty or nine o'clock.

801
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:20.360
<v Speaker 2>And that's pretty easy to do. So now that I

802
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:22.679
<v Speaker 2>gotta get up, I gotta make sure I'm out of

803
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:24.559
<v Speaker 2>bed by this time. And I got to get ready.

804
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully that'll kick me in gear, because the reality is this,

805
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I've had a lot of freedom in the last few

806
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.400
<v Speaker 2>years where I don't actually start my show until three,

807
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:34.519
<v Speaker 2>and then I can you know, I tell myself, oh,

808
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:36.079
<v Speaker 2>You've got plenty of time, and then I end up

809
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:38.719
<v Speaker 2>not taking advantage of said time. Hopefully this new change

810
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:40.519
<v Speaker 2>kicks me in gear to where I'm a little bit

811
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:41.800
<v Speaker 2>more productive. But what I was gonna say a moment

812
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:43.800
<v Speaker 2>ago before I had a brain fart, was that, like

813
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:48.800
<v Speaker 2>this morning, I woke up at like for the second time,

814
00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:51.360
<v Speaker 2>of course, but it was like, I don't know, sevent ten,

815
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:53.760
<v Speaker 2>and I knew that the kids didn't have to be

816
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:55.840
<v Speaker 2>at school in daycare for a little while, but like

817
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:57.559
<v Speaker 2>I was already awake, I didn't go back to sleep.

818
00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:00.360
<v Speaker 2>I'd slept enough that there's no way that happened at

819
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:02.679
<v Speaker 2>three something or four am. And that's kind of what

820
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:04.960
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm gonna miss. It's just, you know, I

821
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:07.920
<v Speaker 2>wake up whenever, because if I tried to sleep past

822
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:09.719
<v Speaker 2>the time to take them where they need to be

823
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:12.159
<v Speaker 2>in the mornings, I probably couldn't, just because you know,

824
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I just I mean, so.

825
00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:15.360
<v Speaker 4>What do you normally do just doom scroll and just

826
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:18.760
<v Speaker 4>like watching it up earlier. Yeah, or sneak into mooses room.

827
00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:20.280
<v Speaker 4>How do you know in the two K? How do

828
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:21.039
<v Speaker 4>you know me so well?

829
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:22.239
<v Speaker 3>Because I do the same thing.

830
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.199
<v Speaker 4>I was actually doing the same thing today at three

831
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:26.480
<v Speaker 4>thirty four because I fiance kicked me out of bed

832
00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:27.320
<v Speaker 4>because I was snoring.

833
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:29.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that'll that'll happen.

834
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:31.760
<v Speaker 4>I feel like women are very sensitive. Every guy that

835
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:34.039
<v Speaker 4>I've talked to was snored in there and their woman

836
00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:37.159
<v Speaker 4>hates it. I'm right there with you, and and I

837
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:39.800
<v Speaker 4>don't know. I guess it is we got two big

838
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:41.800
<v Speaker 4>fans going in there now to where it's not as loud.

839
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:42.760
<v Speaker 3>I guess, oh, there you go.

840
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:45.800
<v Speaker 2>But no, I mean I would get hit in my sleep,

841
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Like I wake up like is somebody breaking in?

842
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, No, you're snoring. Shut up. I'm like, what do

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<v Speaker 3>you want me to do?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm supposed to do? Yeah, it's always the roll over

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<v Speaker 4>to your side method. Yeah, that's just a fat guy thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, And she acts like I don't I think

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<v Speaker 2>because I have no defense, because I have no response,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to say. She

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<v Speaker 2>acts as if I don't believe her that I snore

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<v Speaker 2>to where she'll video me and show me and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I snore. You got me, Like, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not hiding it. You pull that video out on her,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a different story.

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<v Speaker 3>She rarely, ever, ever, ever snores. Oh that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>But if she does, it's like when she falls asleep,

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<v Speaker 2>like on the couch where she's like, you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>too comfortable. Yeah, dozen off, I guess, and just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, most of the time, if I snore,

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<v Speaker 2>it's when I'm on.

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<v Speaker 3>My back and I don't the best spot. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>no doubt. Now I'm tired.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get it. Let's get a break. We

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<v Speaker 2>got another hour to go before we're out of here,

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<v Speaker 2>so stick around. It's coffee and Company five o'clock hours

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<v Speaker 2>next on Sports Talk seven ninety
