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Now let's dive into today's episode. I like to welcome
back to the show returning champion a Seal from Evolution one.
My friend, how are you? Thank you? Alex. I'm well,
it's you text me all the time from your world travels.
You are arguably one of the more interesting people I
know for many for many reasons. I appreciate that. And
You're like, I'm in Turkey now, Oh, I'm over here
doing this. I'm in the jungles of the Amazon doing
ayahuasca or something like that. You're like, good, look hard man,
I'm exhausted and I'm not even doing this stuff. But
our last, our last conversations. People really love our conversations,
and people absolutely adore your series that's on Next Level
Sol TV, Sacred Earth Expeditions, which is one of our
most watched shows. People love it, they'd love your energy. Man.
But there's been some some stuff happening, not only in
the world, but within yourself and within me, which is
something We're going to kind of dig into in this
conversation because it's not something I've ever talked about publicly.
And there's certain things I'm sure that you haven't even
been talking about publicly yet, Oh for sure, not like this,
not this public. Maybe in a small group, but not
this public. So so so, first question, man, what you've
been up to? Bro? Where have you been? There's so
much to discuss. Obviously, it's a big question because how
long has it been since you've been here? Six months?
At least eight months, at least eight months? Ye, yes,
eight months last time. Yeah, it wasn't like six months ago.
It's like eight months ago or something like that, early
early part of last of this year, like January February
of this year. I think it was something something along
those lines, something along those or Ladies sem something like that.
But it's been around eight nine months something like that
since you've been here, So you've done a lot since then.
Speaker 2: A lot has been happening, you know. I feel like
my life started to take a turning point when first
time I had this connection with Emmanuel.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I told you about this, like in great detail or
somewhat detailed in our first first episode and it was
a turning point for my life where I opened up
to celestial realms, to a consciousness outside of mine, where
I would have conversations as clear as you and I
are having. Okay, So when something like this happens and
you're not used to it, and something else is moving
your body and your hands, then it is a bit
of a moment of concern to the standard human mind.
Speaker 1: So I have to I have to stop here for
a second, because when I watch you in Sacred Earth,
you have one of the most violent channel sessions I
feel for your for yourself.
Speaker 2: Those are specifically sessions at sacred sites where the energy
is stronger, and some of the beings that are present
at these very potent sites are also super super intense,
and my energetic body isn't like wasn't at that time?
You know, those are like many years ago, wasn't at
that time in the amount of capacity to hold something else.
It's almost like inviting a top Formula one driver to
drive a Volkswagen Passade on a Formula one track, right,
And in this case, in one of the sessions, it
was quetzal quattal, you know, being entering my body or
at some point in Mount Olympus, I had a channel
length through Zeus, and I had one with Apollo on
the island of d Loss and so on.
Speaker 1: I want to always want to ask you this. I
don't think I asked you this before. To my understanding,
Zeus and Apollo mythical. So what are those energies though?
So like I mean, there's a conversation about Thoth, you know,
who's the the Alantean and that you know that was
a person if you will. But Zeus and Apollo both
have been and that whole, that whole uh Rogues Gallery
of God, to my understanding, were always you know, mythical.
Were they based on something else or or these energies
coming through with those names because of where they're at.
I'm just curious. That's a very good question.
Speaker 2: It's definitely a bigger exploration because some people could say, well,
the only reason this type of consciousness exists because humanity
has made it into being, and they projected its existence
into being, and therefore it responds back maybe right. I
personally think the way they have been speaking, they even
shared with me their origins in our intergalactic existence, and
that they have been placed as you know, emissaries to
support humanity. Now, what humans do on things of great
power is project godhood onto them and project human qualities
onto them.
Speaker 1: So a lot of things.
Speaker 2: That happen, a lot of stories that are told, are
projections of humans that are looking at powerful beings and
they're like, oh, they are like humans. Let's make them
like humans. What qualities could be assigned to this one,
to this one, to this one, and they become part
of that reality, becomes part of myth and culture and
part of something that is then used to control society. Right,
But there is clearly very powerful energies. If you go
to a temple of Apollo, you feel a very particular energy.
You know, it's not just invented in my perspective, right.
Speaker 1: There's something there. It's a sacred spot.
Speaker 2: It's a sacred spot, and the consciousness of Apollo speaks,
and so it claims to be from the places in
my experiences. So that's one thing. And maybe we're diving
here too quickly into the matter. But so just backing
up in the time or since the time where Emmanuel
had this first conversation with me, my life changed, right,
it changed.
Speaker 1: In a manual explained to people who don't know what
this is.
Speaker 2: Immanuel is an angelic being. It is a being of
a celestial realm of beings that serve as intermediaries between
higher planes of consciousness or create a consciousness in all
of those forms that have been seeded, like on Earth,
to evolve.
Speaker 1: And to grow. And they are.
Speaker 2: Ambassadors, intermediaries, and occasionally they show up in human form,
which they have been reported to show up in human form,
and occasionally they speak to people, and occasionally they interfere
in subtle ways and sometimes in not so subtle ways,
to direct to course correct human affairs.
Speaker 1: That's why we haven't blown ourselves up. Yeah maybe yes,
I mean, for God's sakes, we've had the we've had
the many close calls, I mean, geez. And then these
stories pop up more and more lately as information acts
and things like that, like you see paper where you're like,
I'm sorry, what we almost went to worry? How many
times almost? You know a missile was sent out? Almost?
How makey that? Like it's it's insane. So I always
I have no fear of us doing that to ourselves
because I just feel that their guardrails up for us,
because we should have in the eighties, in the nineties,
in the two thousands, tens, who knows how, God knows
that Andy, but but well with the actual thing that
could actually destroy us, which is the bomb. You know,
from the moment that we dropped it on Hiroshima. From
that moment on, there's multiple times that we should have
destroyed ourselves, but we didn't. And I'm like, I know
it ain't human that stopped this. There's something else protecting us,
because if we do blow ourselves up, the game is over. Yes,
and that's not part of the game.
Speaker 2: The experiment is not complete yet.
Speaker 1: Correct. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: So, and they call it, like cautiously, a human experiment
because it is the seeding of a consciousness that is
then observed to evolve into a certain frequency and evolve
beyond this human realm. So that's what is when we
talk about the ascension process of humanity, Like we as
a collective are living this experience and eventually we're going
to finish this school of experience and we're going to
move on to a new form of school whatever that
looks like, right, And that's hard to imagine. It's it
breaks ahead, it breaks ahead. There's too many different versions
of how it's going to be and then what it's
going to look like, and so on and so forth.
But just sticking with your question about what I've been
up to, what I'm noticing is the moment I had
this initial conversation connection with Immanuel, with Angelic rams, and
they said, we want you to be an instrument of
our work and our support to humanity. I thought, well, okay,
that sounds like a very interesting job description and also
task or life purpose. And the moment I said yes,
everything in my life started to change. Relationships, perception of
who I am, what I am, how to live a
human life, and what I'm gonna do, what I'm not
gonna do. All of those things started to change. Now,
the mind freaks out a little bit because it wants
to have full sovereignty and full control over one's experience, right,
rather than thinking something else is controlling and directing my life,
no matter how benevolent it is.
Speaker 1: Right, Right, what's the ego?
Speaker 2: The ego wants full sovereignty and full authority of all choices.
But the truth is, most of our choices are made
choices by our old unprocessed traumas anyways, and the traumas
of our ancestral generations. Right, And we make more choices
unconsciously than we actually do conscious choices.
Speaker 1: And also we don't control what happens to us. All
we can do is control how we react to those
situations when they arrive.
Speaker 2: Some people say, the things that happen to us are
just the unconscious crews of our own being.
Speaker 1: That would be the whole concept of we create worre
co creators of our own reality. Correct. So as this expands, and.
Speaker 2: I go deeper and deeper into my service as an instrument,
as a vessel, and I continue channeling, I go to
sacred sides. I work with influences of this world to
really support the awakening of humanity, to support the strengthening
of individuals, the strengthening of the fabric of society, the
strengthening of the energetic grid of the earth, so that
the changes that are coming can be held in a
more graceful way. Now you're probably wondering, like, what does
that exactly mean? Because we are currently going through changes
or fluctuations ortility in human existence, and people are losing
their minds left and right, right.
Speaker 1: Very much.
Speaker 2: So there is definitely a lot of destabilization happening in
society and maybe even also in parts of our own being. Questions, doubts, concerns,
fears are more prevalent than ever.
Speaker 1: And I do think after twenty twenty we were kind
of forced to look in the mirror. Twenty twenty started
us all as a planet to look ourselves in the
mirror for a short period of time. It did shake
things up a little bit. But why do you think now?
I mean, look, we've all had these thoughts since we
were teenagers, you know, like we had thoughts about well
some do, but think thoughts about life, thoughts about what
am I going to do, thoughts about questioning my purpose,
why am I here, my occupation, my relationships. But now
they seem to be coming up more and more, and
they're really starting to get into people's faces. Where before
you could dismiss them, nowadays it's not as easy to dismiss.
Why do you think that's happening?
Speaker 2: I think it is a matter of becoming more conscious
and consciously aware as a species and also as individuals.
So somehow the energetic levels on this earthly plane are rising.
There is more energy for light and for dark, for
creative and destructive energies. And I'm not talking about good
or bad. I'm just talking about creative and destructive yin
and yang, everything in balance. If there is more fuel,
there is more happening on both ends, And we are
just the very thin layer between creation and destruction. We're
experiencing consistently creation destruction within ourselves every second, every second.
Speaker 1: Right, dye cells are dying, seals are being born, correct, exactly,
So we are the epitome of this creative, destructive dens
of creation.
Speaker 2: We are that manifestation, and so is everything else around us.
Everything is consistently being created and destroyed all the time.
Now we are in this very fine layer observing this
creative and destructive dance. If there is more energy, there
is more creation and more destruction. Potentially, our conscious awareness expands,
so we see more clearly all of these different mechanisms
that are creating and destroying, including the ones inside of ourselves.
So we see creative thoughts, we see destructive thoughts, we
see creative emotions, we see destructive emotions, and we see
our actions much more clearly. Right, it used to be
so much easier to go out and blame the world
for our experience. And the more clearly we see it's
becoming much more.
Speaker 1: Difficult col to do so, right because the outside world's
falling apart to now exactly where you're gonna blame, right,
who you're gonna blame, Exactly where you're gonna blame.
Speaker 2: It is a co creation after all. And and very
often you know, in many of the channelings that I've
been delivering that's been coming through me, the guides speak
about angelic beings, divine masters. They speak about the power
that we have as individuals. You are the key to
the transformation of humanity.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: That's one of the core mission statements of my organization
of what we are doing. That means there is an
inherent belief that you and with you, I mean you,
everybody holds a key to the evolution of humanity. Of course, yes,
of course, But then people might be sitting at home
and being like, well, who really sees what I do
what I don't do? If I hold a grudge in
my heart, does that really going to prevent humanity from evolving?
Speaker 1: Or if I you.
Speaker 2: Know, if I think negatively of that person, or if
I hold still you know, resentment over my last husband
or my last girlfriend. If I still haven't cried the
tears from my three heartbreaks ago, does that really affect humanity?
Is that the reason why the world is falling apart?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: These are good questions to have. And the truth is
everything is energy and frequency. So what energy are you
holding within yourself? And what frequency is your entire being
operating at?
Speaker 1: So I want to dig into this a little bit
because it's it's something that's really important. The whole universe
is based frequency. Everything. Everything has a hum, everything has
a tone. You know those gongs that you in sound
healing gongs like this is Saturn's frequency, this is Uraneus
is frequency. There is scientific proof not these these celestial
bodies have frequency. And I'm using that as a larger
example of frequency. But anyone listening right now, when they
walk into a room there was an argument that just happened,
and they feel they'll fill the room, they'll know, they'll
go what just what just happened here? Or like for me,
I walked on I was in New York and I
went to ground zero and about five years ago and
the second I walked off the off the street onto
I felt it like it was yesterday. Onto the sidewalk,
A wave of just hit me from all of that
energy of that horrible that event was there. And then
as I kind of try to protect myself is I
literally did a meditation there and tried to protect myself
because it was just like I'm walking underneath I'm in
the museum. You can just feel it. People do have
visceral feelings to these kind of energies, but that's frequency.
That is the frequency that's left when a ghost quote
unquote ghosts you know, are in a building, or a
spirit is in a building. We'll be right back after
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My understanding of that is that it's an echo of
that spirit, meaning that there's a loop that that spirit
has been caught in. So like I've heard stories of
people walking into a room and at two o'clock in
the morning, that's when the nurses and the wounded soldiers
from the Civil War that were in that room. That
energy just stays there, and it's kind of in this loop.
It's not like that soul is locked there. It's the
higher se it's already having other lives. But there's an
aspect of it that is kind of caught. And does
that make sense to you? Yeah? Absolutely, so energetically everyone,
I'm trying to I'm using these examples as a way
to teach, just to show everybody that everything is made
out of energy and we all feel it in our
everyday lives. To answer your question, if you hold a
grudge against somebody, the only person you're hurting is you.
That's true, and that energy is in you, and that's
where a lot of disease comes from. A lot of
things happen like that that you just don't let go
and it just literally eats you alive. Is that makes sense? Absolutely?
Speaker 2: And the energy that is coming off of you, even
if it's unconscious, right, it is impacting all elements of
your life. So you're not just hurting yourself, You're hurting
really everyone else around you because you're holding, naturally a
lower frequency, a lower vibration, a lower presence in your being.
And even though you don't want to, even though you
have the best intentions, and even though you truly love
your loved ones, the energy you hold is affecting them.
And sometimes we say things that we don't mean. Sometimes
we do things that we don't want to do, we
didn't intend to do, but somehow it came out of
us a certain vicious or poisonous energy, toxic energy.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And it's never about the dish. And it's
never about the dish.
Speaker 2: It's never about the dish. It's never about it's rarely
about what happened in the moment. It's something about much
much older holding on to and had to come out, right,
It had to come out because the cup is full. Right,
So how many humans are in this world where the
cups are pretty full, and how many societies, how many
subgroups within societies are full, and the cups are full,
tensions are strong, and there is constantly as an energy
that is coming out of these full cups that is
toxic and destructive, right, because these energies have not moved
for generations, both in the individuals but also in the
societal matrix that we are holding, the field of consciousness
that we are carrying around with us. So if we
are in a city, there is a field of consciousness
that we're holding at a certain frequency, just the way
you have a field of consciousness you're holding at home,
right that operates at a certain frequency. You can change it.
Occasionally it's higher, occasionally it's a little lower. But there
is an average frequency you're holding at home, right, and
so this average frequency that we're holding within ourselves can
be changed.
Speaker 1: How do you do that? Well?
Speaker 2: There is a million different practices that have been developed
in hundreds of different lineages for thousands of years, for
thousands of years. It is never for a lack of
possibilities and tools and techniques.
Speaker 1: They exist. What I find fascinating a seal is that
the more I do this work and the more research
I do on my own journey, I find exactly what
you just said. There's a thousand ways to skin the cat.
I mean, it's the say you have to do a job.
Sorry about Oh I have a cat. I don't mean
to skin the cat, but it's the same. Please please
don't skin the cat, and please with the comments of
the cat. But there's a million different ways to do
the same task. And let's say, oh I want to
do X thing. Well, I tried the Chinese way. I
didn't like it. Oh wait, I tried the Indian wedding
like oh I went down the Muslim path. Oh I
like that one. Maybe it's a little too off here.
Maybe I did the indigenous path there's but they all
go to the same exact place. And that's what I
found with my work in general. All of these masters
on the wall, all the guests that I have on
the show, they're all walking different paths, but we're all
going to the same place.
Speaker 2: Which is, how do we raise our frequency, How do
we find liberation within our being? How do we stabilize
ourselves create more capacity for love, for compassion, for presence,
for life itself mhm. And so that is a deeper
and closer connection with both the earth and the divine,
so that we can ultimately live life freely with grace
and in love, hopefully in purpose and maybe even in service.
So this is where it gets interesting, because once you
start doing this type of work and you start cleaning
up your life, you start cleaning up your emotional states,
you start cleaning up your your thoughts, the way your
mind operates, the wiring or the behavior doing the work
you're doing the work, you start cleaning up your your
relationships or the things you're doing that you never really
wanted to do, or.
Speaker 1: Life is changing.
Speaker 2: The way you operate in life is changing, right slowly,
but surely, and you start questioning, wait, why am I
doing what I'm doing in terms of work, right, because
there is such a thing as work that was invented, right,
And well.
Speaker 1: Work is part of this all. To survive on this game,
you've got to work in one way, shape form, correct,
no matter what.
Speaker 2: But but work is a creation of industrialism, right.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean in the way that career a career, yeah, correct, Yeah,
But if you're out in the in the outback, you're
gonna work to get a meal, You're gonna work to
have you know. But there it's part of life. Right.
So it's like I'm talking with you.
Speaker 2: It's not like a nine to five, right, you wake up,
You're not clocking and clocking at you. Just well, if
I'm not tending to the farm, there's gonna be no food.
So there's a different type of co creative.
Speaker 1: It's a career. It's like a career occupation as a poet.
But many people are in these loops or hamster wheels.
And I'm talking also about myself, right, I've been in
that hamster wheel of doing things and then coming to
a moment of awakening and looking at myself and thinking.
Speaker 2: What am I doing with my life? What am I
doing with this gift that I've been given? This wholly exists,
this incredibly mystical and mysterious and beautiful life. Where is
this energy that's coming through me and going out of me?
Where is it being applied to? And what's the meaning
of that?
Speaker 1: Anyways? And so I think a lot of people are
coming to that place.
Speaker 2: And what we do is we create more and more
creative stories of what that meaning is and what that
purpose is. And so the more we apply meaning to
what we are doing, we are justifying something that may
or may not be aligned. And truly, when we are
in alignment and we are doing the things that are
just coming out of this alignment where action is aligned
to thought and emotional state, and the souls are energetic,
our energetic spiritual vibration, everything is aligned, all our actions
are aligned to So what we are doing then requires
no justification at all, not even to ourselves.
Speaker 1: We just do it because we.
Speaker 2: Can, because it feels good, and aligned action delivers a
win win win always.
Speaker 1: So in your journeys A Zeal, recently you've been doing
some grading, upgrading my favorite word. Can you explain to
us what you've been going through because you are you
are without your doctor strange Go Teh, which I love
by the way, Hey I love go Tea. Yes, but
you've taken You could still be doctor Strong. I could
still be doctor Stranger. I need anyway. But yeah, so
you've there's been a change in you, even in the
times that we've spent together. You know, you've been here
twice already in person, and we talk a lot here
and there, but everybody's seen the difference in you. I
feel the difference. So can you explain to people what
you've been going through and how that mirrors what everyone's
kind of going through. We'll be right back after a
word from our sponsor, and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: You know, in my experience, when an individual says I
am in service and your service is required more than ever,
you will be taken to a higher level of capacity
in your service because the world needs individuals in places
of service in alignment more than ever. So it's not
just you and me who are decidedly moving through life
in service that are being upgraded, but everyone else that's
like going through awakening processes, that's also a form of upgrading. Now,
people with already that are already on spiritual pathways or
that already are in a form of service. I've noticed
a lot of individuals that I know that are friends,
that are in the industry doing different types of forms
of service, are going through some of the most intense upgrades,
especially in the last year or in the last couple years.
It feels like something is like rocket fuel has been
poured into whatever these upgrade engines are that are running
through individuals that already open or that are in form
of service. What that does is it brings individuals to
capacity or like beyond the limits or to the limits
that we can hold and then passing through those limits.
And that can be excruciating, It could be terrifying, It
could be incredibly challenging or bring up the most difficult thoughts,
emotions and pains that we hold. But they are designed
to be that way. Should you got to clear that
the junk out? Yes, And some people say, well, I
know gentler ways to do that. Fair, there might be
gentler ways to go through cleaning and clearings and alignments.
Speaker 1: And takes time.
Speaker 2: It takes longer time, right, And somehow these accelerated ones
can also operate to a certain degree without necessarily you
having to feel, yell every pain that you're holding, because
it might not be realistic for you to feel everything
in order to get to the next stage.
Speaker 1: But at least.
Speaker 2: You becoming aware of these things is already a step
forward in this upgrading, in this healing process. And I
sometimes use healing and upgrading synonymously, but healing is a
part of upgrading. And another part of upgrading is we
have this physical.
Speaker 1: Body, right.
Speaker 2: The cleaner, the clearer, the more optimally this physical body operates,
the better. And if you're in service, a lot of
energy moves potentially through you, and this physical body needs
to be able to hold it, sustain it without burning up,
without burning up exactly.
Speaker 1: Well, it's like what happens with the channel. You have
to you have to upgrade your nervous system to be
able to handle the energy. If not the fried you
just can't. Literally kind of like what happened to you
in those episodes of Sacred Earth expeditions where I just
see you convulsing like you've been possessed by by the
extra sistors. I mean, I mean literally it felt like
you were just like yeah, and it was and you
could I could hear your it felt like I heard
your bones cracking. They do sometimes. I mean you were like,
I was like, what, my God? Is he okay? But
now you could probably go to those spots and much easier.
You'd be chilled, much easier because my capacity has changed now,
So there is energetic spiritual.
Speaker 2: Capacity away half right, And the greater the capacity, the
more energy can move through you. So when you are
doing healing, when you are doing presentations, when you are
a vessel of divine energies moving through you, the more
capacity you have, the easier it can move without draining you.
The better of a vessel you are.
Speaker 1: I said, let me ask you, because something just popped
into my head when you were talking about this. The
concept of capacity is very interesting because we're talking about
energetic capacity, but there's also other forms of capacity in
your mind and in your reality. So what I find
I've years ago, I was doing a documentary series for
ad Agency for lottery winners in Florida, people who won
the lottery, interviewing them and seeing what happened to them afterwards.
And the people I saw were pretty interesting. From someone
who literally won about ten or fifteen million dollars, doesn't
touch it. Lives his life exactly, nothing changed. So someone
who went completely like I'm just there and he's I
never forgot this, Like if my wife. If my wife
walks by a still or window and sees a dress
that she likes, we buy it. That's the extent of
his splurging house is the same. He didn't quit his job.
He's like, no, no, I don't want to lose my pension.
It was fascinating. The other side of that spectrum is
someone who went all in and you could I literally
saw themselves destructing. I mean they were just there were ago.
You got a year before that relationship that they were in.
It was a couple. They just were. They didn't have
the capacity. So what I found interesting about this lottery
idea is that when you win a lottery, most winners,
I think they say it's like eighty five percent will
lose it all within five years. Many of them won't
even make it, meaning that they die for one way
to scape or form. They don't have the capacity to
handle the energy that that kind of wealth brings in.
So someone like Elon you know, or Jeff Bezos, all
these guys who worked their way up, they weren't born
into it. They worked their way up to this massive capacity.
Some say a little too much capacity for wealth, but
they can understand it, deal with it, and know how
to play with it very easily. You know, give you
give the average person one hundred million dollars, they'll self implode,
They'll destroy themselves and people around them because they just
don't have the capacity. So that's on the grander scale,
But on the smaller scale, people who don't have the
capacity for relationships because they haven't done their work. People
don't have capacity for growth in their career or even
financial growth because they've they've set up blocks for themselves.
Does that all kind of make all of it comes together? Right?
Speaker 2: So when I talk about capacity, it really also is
about mental, emotional, physical, and energetic spiritual capacity. If any
of your bodies, any parts of your being is not
coming along on the capacity gain, that's the first one
that will break. Which so physical well, whichever is not
coming along in terms of capacity building.
Speaker 1: So you could be like perfectly in great shape, but
your mind correct is you know, it's not balanced, or
you do a lot of mental work but your emotional
system is fragile, or you're doing so much mental and
even sometimes spiritual work that you're neglecting the body and
the bloody. Correct, it has to be a balance.
Speaker 2: Whichever part is not being developed in capacity will break first.
That's the breaking point, that's the break, the weak link,
the weak link.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 2: And so in order to really have a balanced approach
to all parts, spiritual work has to include all aspects
of the human being. Right, So spiritual upgrading cannot just
be the energetic spiritual body or energetic spiritual construct. It
has to be all parts of your being, including your mental,
your emotional and your physical body. And only then when
all of these are upgrading together can you truly hold
a balance or a new balance, which also goes through
its tests and through its.
Speaker 1: You know, ups and.
Speaker 2: Downs, right until you reach a point where all of
these capacities are anchored in in a new station of being.
Are you familiar with the concept of the state of being. Yes,
we reach different states of being if we do psychedelics,
if we go into meditative states, if we you know,
having a great conversation, we can change states of being. Well,
the flow state too, that's another Clow state. So we
can change into different states of being. But if we
anchor a certain state of being into our consciousness or
into our being, in the totality of our being. Then
we can hold that state of being as a station
of being.
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and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: So it's no longer a thing that we need to
reach to, that we need to climb a mountain for
exactly what you're ready that we need to push to
reach here there now, because you are there now, you
can switch it on very quickly and with ease, because
it's now a station imprinted and ingrained in your being in.
Speaker 1: A certain state. In a different kind of analogy, it
means basically like you've been able to bench press five
hundred pounds, and now you can get to four hundred easily,
three hundred easily because your capacity has reached a certain point,
and if you need to get back to five hundred
you can get there pretty quickly. Normally you're only lifting
one hundred on your day to day. Your capacity has changed.
Speaker 2: Capacity has changed. So I feel that a lot of
individuals in service, what they used to have, which was
enough for what they used to do on a day
to day basis, is no longer perceived to be what
will be needed in the coming years. So what is
coming is so intense that everyone has to upgrade their
capacity to ten or even one hundredfold of what they
have been able to do in order to hold the
societal transformation and the field that is consistently going through
its ebbs and flows.
Speaker 1: So is that why when Buddha, or when Saint Germain
or Yeshua Yogananda was walking around this earth, they have
obviously capacities beyond people in today's world. I can only
imagine what Buddha went through walking around in that time
period capacity wise. It just you know, he was trying
to lift all of them. We're trying to lift everyone
around them up to try to upgrade. But it seems
now that all the legwork that the masters did in
the past has been basically trying to prepare us for
this moment in history where humanity is going to do
this massive awakening upgrade all these things that we've been
talking about forever, and we're all seeing it. Hence, the
old systems are coming crumbling down. All the things that
we thought were rock solid are now on shaky ground,
and religion that used to give us answers do not anymore.
Now they're searching for other things. The capacity is changing.
So are all being forced in many ways to upgrade,
because just it's basically, we're all sitting in a pool,
and when we walked in it was a three foot pool.
And now the pool there's been someone's been putting water
in it, and it just keeps going up, and now
we're in six foot water. If you don't learn how
to swim, you might be in trouble. You have to
raise with the water. If not, it's not, it's going
to be much more difficult for you. The pool now
has waves too, and there's on top of it. If
it wasn't just a steady stream, now we got a
little wing.
Speaker 2: Doesn't tell you when the waves are coming, when they
come here and there, and the lifeguard may be there
and may not be there.
Speaker 1: Very true.
Speaker 2: Right, So there's a lot to this analogy obviously, but
I feel that anyone who is in service, anyone who
is chosen alive to you know, find themselves in service,
is going through some form of an upgrade. The other
thing that I'm noticing is that the general society, general public,
every individual is being challenged in in ways that we
may not have been challenged before mentally, emotionally, but also energetically. Right, So,
what we are experiencing in society, what we see in
the news, the amount of information and misinformation that we see.
Speaker 1: The amount of.
Speaker 2: Contradicting and also controversial and opposing opinions we see, the
spectrum that is widening is to me feels like unprecedented.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, I've never I mean in the in the
eighties and the nineties, and the left and the right
didn't always agree obviously, but they still work together. I mean,
as we're recording this right now, the US government is
shut down and it's been that way for almost a month.
I think it's going to be the longest shutdown in history.
That is an example of what's happening right now. There's
not even a conversation.
Speaker 2: I don't know if our viewers here also, you know,
hearing the other news around the world were there is
oh no, it's everywhere, coops, there is government changes.
Speaker 1: It's everywhere. It's everywhere. There is civil.
Speaker 2: Wars happening in so many countries. This volatility is not
just here, it's everywhere.
Speaker 1: Right, And so when we talk about the waves, these
are some of those waves. So everyone is feeling the
waves of change, the winds of change, whatever you want
to call it. And the question is what is it
that you hold on too? If everything is volatile, if
things are so challenging, they challenge the core of your being,
They challenge the core of the things that you believe in,
the core of your humanity is being challenged. What is
it that you hold onto? What's there, what's.
Speaker 2: The last resort in your being?
Speaker 1: That's the light, It's obviously the kingdom within yourself. Yes,
that's what Jesus said.
Speaker 2: It's the love. It's the love of creation if you
can really touch it. But there is many layers between
our conscious way of operating and our ego.
Speaker 1: To that place.
Speaker 2: There's many layers of unprocessed. There is many layers of unfelt.
There is many layers of unexpressed. There is many layers
of pain and heard of my lifetime, of past life,
lifetimes of the generations before me. There is many layers
to overcome. The question is how do we overcome them,
and how do we look at them in a way
that is kind, compassionate, compassionate in a way that is vulnerable,
in a way that is supportive to one's growth and
evolution because easy, it won't be.
Speaker 1: Tell me about it. Let me tell you something this please.
So I've been doing this show for a long time now,
about four years. I've been podcasting for over a decade now.
As of this recording, we have six hundred and fifty
forty episodes of the show. And you know, I have
a lot of capacity, I believe, for the energies that
I interact with on a daily basis, channelers, psychic mediums, mystics. Recently,
there has been a shift in me, and it's been
a public shift because people have been seeing it publicly.
There's been multiple episodes that have happened. Now that I'm
physically I'm feeling what's happening in the channeling, in the conversation.
I'm upgrading in a sense that I've just don't understand you.
And I've talked a little bit about that before we
came on, and I'll be honest with you, you haven't
even started channeling yet and having a conversation. I'm already
feeling those things that I've been feeling in those other
episodes you and I've had. We've sat down and talked
for hours. We've had sessions together we've done no problem,
no problem. But now I'm starting to feel things at
a very different level. I don't know why. Like I
just had a cup of coffee and you're Cuban coffee
is not going to do anything. No, No, I understand,
I understand, sir, I understand. I understand. But generally speaking,
caffeine does have a little something that is. But you
and I were talking in the hall and everything was fine. No,
you saw me jumping around, bumping around that in the studio,
showing you all the cool stuff that we're going to
do and everything. And as of this converse, as this
conversation has been going and going, I've been getting more.
I'm trying to hold myself up there. So what are
you feeling? So what I'm feeling is not sleepy, but
I could take a nap. Yeah, okay, I have certain
pains that are coming up on my body in places.
Pressure here, yeah, forehead, forehead, a third eye, a little
bit on the side here. Headache, not headache, subtle, subtle, subtle,
because these are I feel the the they're the pre
shocks of what's to come when you start to channel.
But it's so fascinating because when you and I started talking,
I was like, and you said it now, it's like
people who do work of service are starting to feel up.
They're starting to feel the difference. They're being upgrade because
of what they're trying to do in the world. And
obviously we reach a lot of people. We'll be right
back after a word from our sponsor, and now back
to the show. And there's a whole lot of stuff
going on with me lately. All good, but just well,
not all good, some struggling, some things have to struggle with,
and energetic things and not anything exterior. My family's great,
you know, all that stuff's good. It's this, it's my journey.
It's all personal, not like relationships or people, none of that. No,
it's like my own personal journey, trying to get through things,
trying to figure things out in myself, trying to understand
my own blocks. But this is it's not even a
conscious thing. This is happening to me. I'm being forced
to look at these things. The more I reject it
or the more I put it off, the stronger it gets.
And there's something. So when you said all the things
that you said to me before we started talking in
the interview. I'm starting to think, like, Okay, this all
starts to make a lot more sense. This is starting
to make a lot more sense for me. But right now,
like I'm like, you know, and I'm engaged in this conversation,
but I'm already starting to And this happened before, where
like I started talking to Nikki Dudah who's on the
show before and she I was the first hour of
our conversation, I was just like yawning even and I'm
like I felt I'm like, oh my god, I feel
so bad. I don't and she's and then after I
told her that, She's like, it's fine. It's part of
what you were going through. You were feeling the energies
that were coming through. And I'm like, what is happening?
And I feel like that's the T shirt for this
entire planet right now. F is happening, you know. So
I'm putting this out there because I think a lot
of people watching are going through something similar. You've gone
through something similar, You're going through something similar as well.
Your capacity is growing. My capacity is growing in the
work that I'm doing. We're starting to do more things.
We're starting to grow, We're starting to be of more
service out in the world more than just doing a show.
It's now growing into next levels sol TV and our
mastery courses that we've put out and all the things
in the stuff that you and I are working on
together and things. It's just it's overwhelming. Is there any
advice you have not only for me, but for anybody
else going through this right now? Like, as I'm talking,
my head starting to get like it's it's left up, man.
I don't know how I'm not saying, it's just like,
what is what is going on? So it's very interesting
what advice do you have for all of us?
Speaker 2: Are so in general, when physical pains are coming up,
when things are becoming more aware of, like the physical
body in sessions like this or in conversations like this,
where energy is moving through it is normally the areas
where energy channels are a little bit more sagnant or
narrow because they have either accumulated energy or haven't been
like completely cleared or expanded enough. So it's almost like
the iridians or the energy lines specific to all the
energy centers are being pushed with a lot of energy,
and that's where you're feeling it the most. And it
could be, you know, a physical misalignment, could be energetic thing,
and so on and so forth. Sometimes even emotional things
are in the body as well, and they're resting in
certain areas. But over time, as you expose yourself more
and more to these kind of energy levels, the more
that energy move story, eventually will clear these pathways and
it will feel like it's moving much more smoothly through
your system.
Speaker 1: So it's a clog.
Speaker 2: It's a clog, and it will be cleared right. And
it may be uncomfortable at certain times, and it may
feel at awkward and weird and may be something that
you don't want to do in general because it doesn't
feel natural, and so on and so forth. But it
is really like going to the gym for the first
time after not having done for a long time, and
you feel like, oh, my muscles are hurting. This is
not a good thing. I shouldn't be doing this right.
But truly common sense is you'll be fine. Just allow
yourself and your body to get used to these new
things that you're doing, these new exercises, in this case,
energetic exercises, because the energy levels on this earth are rising,
so I'm not the only one that is able to
channel more energy. Everyone else is going to be able
to channel more energy too, both in a generative in
a creative, but also in a destructive way.
Speaker 1: What do you mean by them?
Speaker 2: So energy can be used for anything, right, Energy can
be generative and energy can be destructive. It's not good
or bad. It's just as we talked about it earlier.
Creation and destruction happens all the time everywhere.
Speaker 1: Forest fires need to happen in order for more life
to grow.
Speaker 2: So Yin and Yang are in great balance. Yeah, So,
as in vessel, I can use the energy that's moving
through me in a creative, in a generative way. Also
I can use that energy in a destructive way because
I can act this energy out. Therefore, the energy, the emotion,
the thoughts, even the actions that I express towards you
could be generative and could really feel like it is
lifting you up and it is creating more energy within you.
It's like expanding you, uplifting you, amplifying. Or it could
be an energy that moves through in a way that
is destructive and you would feel that destructive energy. Does
that make sense? So we are all vessels for energy,
and through our conscious awareness, we choose how to use
and extend that energy. Now, if you are going through
these kind of upgrades, and a lot of other people
around the world are going through awakening processes or upgrading processes,
the most important thing is to know that this is
an evolutionary process that is necessary, inevitable, and will be
so much easier if you create space for it and
if you allow it vulnerably to move through you. It's
like when you're tired, you're going to go to sleep, hopefully,
or you're going to push not to sleep, and eventually
it's going to catch.
Speaker 1: Up with you.
Speaker 2: Right, this is a similar thing. This is not for debate.
Everyone is going to go through these energy changes. Everyone's
going to feel something is changing, something is moving through me.
How do I deal with this? Are you going to
be able to create space and time for it? And
if you do, then your upgrades or your evolutionary processes
are going to be a little bit more graceful, or
at least they're going to go faster, more easier through
your system. Be it the tears never try a crid,
be it the emotions never felt, be it the thoughts
that you had but have been suppressed in some sort
of basement of all the bodies.
Speaker 1: That you have buried.
Speaker 2: Right, So eventually these energies will make themselves visible and
they will move through you.
Speaker 1: Like you are the.
Speaker 2: Observer watching water move as you are standing on a bridge,
and that water that is moving as the energy is increasing,
will be first muddy and maybe dirty, ikey water from blackwater. Yeah,
it's like water that's accumulated for generations or lifetimes, or sludge. Right, yeah,
let it move, let it clean. But know that the
energy that's moving through is limitless. So eventually a lot
of that, all of that sludge that you have accumulated,
will be cleared out. Eventually you will be seeing free
and clear energy moving through you as an observer. It's
not forever. When it gets tricky is when you're watching
that sludgy water and that dirty water, and you're judging
yourself on top of it, and you are in a
process of emotionalizing and mentalizing what is happening, Oh, my god,
and this and that, Oh this must be someone else's fault.
And this is from my mother, from my father, you know,
and this is why am I experiencing this? And so
on and so forth. This is when it gets tiring
and difficult.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show. But when you are
a pure, neutral observer, when you know that you are
love and you are deserving of being a human being
that is free and liberated, that is deserving of love
and worthy of a great purpose, whatever that may be,
and you can observe yourself in the clearing of your being,
then it's going to be so much easier. But it
is easier said than none. Oh, this is my friend.
This is why we.
Speaker 2: Tried to do these things together. When we do it
in community, easier, It's easier. Yeah, when we do it
in common practice, when we put certain level of discipline, dedication,
a little bit of devotion into our conscious evolution, right,
it is easier.
Speaker 1: It is easier. I'll tell you when I was when
we had the Ascension Conference earlier this year, being in
the room. The energy that was in the room with
these two hundred and plus amazing souls that decided to
come down to Austin and join us live, it was
everyone felt it. Everybody was high. It was fascinating to
see I was high. The speakers there were high. You
could feel the energy, and everybody was started like people
were crying, people were making break through because of the
collective energy. It was so much more powerful when you
did it collectively, and it doesn't have to be in person. Online,
you could do something similar. It's pretty powerful.
Speaker 2: It is these type of collective fields that we generate
that are then synchronized for one particular intention, that is
the group's evolution or healing. And then what we do
is once we synchronize everyone in the field in the room,
then we start to lift that energy higher and higher
and higher and higher until we are consistently operating and
vibrating at a high frequency and we are consistently being
in that receptive energy. And then we start directing that
energy too situations or places around the world that require
that kind of frequency, that kind of transformative energy. So
it's like a laser pointer of hundreds or thousands of
people at the same time being directed just without wanting
to change anything.
Speaker 1: This is very important.
Speaker 2: By the way, We're not going in there to say, oh,
I'm right, this is the way I would like things
to be, and it's not like this or we want
to change it to this. That's not what we're doing Okay,
it's important to stay neutral as a vessel because we
don't know what's right and what's wrong. All we do
is things are happening, and we put judgment on top
of it because the way we have been educated, the
way we have been conditioned. Okay, so all of these
things are judgment calls. We don't do that in this
type of work. When we come to a place and
an energy is moving through us that we consider to
be a very high frequency or loving energy, and I
direct this energy to a person or to a place
or to a situation, then I'm in just pure observation
of that energy moving through me to that place. And
that is a generative energy, and it is intelligent. It
knows what to do and how to be delivered over there,
and how it's then absorbed and how it's then received
will be seen.
Speaker 1: But that's not for.
Speaker 2: Us to judge either, right, right, We're just pure vessels
to be providing something of great love and compassion.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's what the masters did. That's what the masters did. Yeah.
They never try to change a person. They try to
awaken something within.
Speaker 2: Them, provide the fuel in a space that this person
can receive, and then watch them or their system open
up in vulnerability to receive that energy and let it
move through them for a clearing, for an evolution, for
an upgrade.
Speaker 1: There are these masters that even living ones today that
are able to take on your karma, grab your karma,
or help you process things, force this energy through you
to kind of do things. Because there's these legendary stories
of people walking in the room with a yogi a
master and they just intoxicated by the energy that they're
putting out things like that. Does that work from your understanding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it happens even in our sessions where
when we have a strong enough energetic field and I'm
deep enough in the transmissions, people have incredible experiences from
you know, transformative from energies that bring people to tears,
from hard openings that they've never experienced before, from energetic
surgeries or healing processes that they never thought possible. Right, So,
I think a lot of individuals are being made into
these kind of vessels where we can hold a space
and energetic field for other people to feel and go
through their form of transformation and healing.
Speaker 1: So Seel, we're talking about all this channeling and energy
and stuff. Can you bring in. Can you do a
little channeling for us? I think so? Oh okay, maybe,
I mean I think you can as well. How has
it been since? Well? Are you as as before like
in Sacred Earth where you were moving around a whole lot?
Because last time you were here it wasn't nothing like that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, it's getting significantly chilled, easier to enter into these states.
And because I'm holding different stations in my being.
Speaker 1: Remember when I mentioned that.
Speaker 2: So the energetic, the frequency and the potency of energy,
for lack.
Speaker 1: Of better words, i'll call it voltage.
Speaker 2: Right, the voltage at which my system is already operating
is very close to the channel state that I am
getting into. So therefore the gap, the delta between going
from here to here is much less.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: So therefore I don't have to climb a mountain to
get into a channel state, go into it much much faster.
Speaker 1: Got it? Now?
Speaker 2: Some people don't have what I have in terms of
the way I channel, sure, and that's perfectly fine. I
don't fully understand the full spectrum of technologies that are
out there in terms of channeling. What I know is
there is individuals that are also energy transmission vehicles like myself,
and some individuals are purely for information connection, right, and
some individuals are for both.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So in my work, I've been from the beginning developed
to be an energy transmission vessel, and the information is
five to ten percent of its being delivered.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's bring let's be and who
are you bringing in?
Speaker 2: Well, it's generally either Immanuel or the Elohem in terms
of what is being channeled. And you know, I can
call upon many different consciousness, but these are.
Speaker 1: My Those are your boys and girls might go to
all right, all right, yeah, let them know that they
are free too, because I have no questions. So this
is going to be very free flowing, so I'm open
to whatever they bring in.
Speaker 2: Greetings, we are Elohim. You have recognized by now that you,
as an individual in human form, are not restricted to
this one single individual personality that you are, even though
the illusion is persistent. You have lived many lives and
you will live other incarnations. The concept of one singular
life that is separate from the rest of the collective
and the experiences of the collective is merely an illusion.
Speaker 1: Will be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: A temporary and necessary illusion for these experiences to truly
feel impactful and full of potential learning. Consciousness within the
collective evolves through each individual's learnings. Every evolution that consciousness
as a collective goes through uplifts the frequently see at
which the collective operates. Therefore, all of your learnings, per lifetime,
per moment in your life truly affect your individual growth
as well as the evolution.
Speaker 1: Of the collective.
Speaker 2: Every challenge, every unprocessed past, every trauma, every experience of love,
connection and separation, every emotion, every mental state, every physical experience,
even the most insignificant one, therefore is a gem of
potential learning, of potential growth. Some of these learnings and
realizations occur on a conscious level, many occur in an
unconscious way. Some of these realizations and learnings are distributed
among the family, among a group of individuals, a group
of souls, or a group of society. Therefore, certain learnings
are individual and some learnings are societal or collective learnings.
Yet every learning impacts every being. You learn as a
collective together, every creative and every destructive act therefore impacts
every individual. In this dance between creation and destruction. There
is truly no judgment of good and bad, only the
potential for learning and evolution. The sooner you realize that
these realizations can be had without the acting upon, without
the unconscious creating and manifesting of those to complete these
cycles of learning is when you have evolved to be
a consciously aware soul in an evolutionary end, in an
ascension process. Every realization therefore serves your evolution, and you
start to be become a conscious creator of your life.
The thoughts that emerge, the emotions that emerge, the actions
that follow are consciously induced based on a scaffolding and
a foundation of a realized soul. You have come to
this place as a result of many generations living, as
a result of many incarnations that you have had, as
a result of many learnings that you have participated in,
and the methodology the mechanisms of learning areting. Significant learnings
can be had in short moments of perceived time. Learnings
that used to take many generations to complete, many lifetimes
to complete, can truly occur within moments. In this accelerated
form of learning, an open mind and open heart and
true presence is required. Your energetic capacity increases, and the
higher the energy that moves through you, the more fuel
there is for the transformations within your being mental, emotional, energetic, spiritual,
and physical. You will recognize that your mind, your heart,
your body heals faster, that cycles complete, that even though
pains emerge, they will resolve. Bringing yourself into these states
of silence, these states of observation, will allow for this
unconditional love to be present within your being. A state
of peace, a state of compassion, the state of kindness,
no desire, no wants, nothing to achieve, nothing to complete,
no objectives, no adgendus, no judgments, and no opinions, pure presence.
And the more you find yourself in these states of being,
the more you are fueled to become the greatest, most
aligned version of yourself, a bright and shining example of
who you have always been, yet buried under the conditions
and the unrealized potential of life itself. You are being
supported in this way by many pathways, many openings, many
vessels in service, most importantly your conscious choice. Most importantly,
you opening yourself up to receive this transformational potential. The
changes in the human experience, the changes in human society,
will only accelerate further. The unknown, the unknowable, the unpredictable
will come closer. As the probability fields expand into definite possibilities.
The expectations of a certain future dissipate in a grander
space of unknown, unpredictable, unknowable. Who are you? How do
you find your stability? How do you find your strength?
How do you rely on? Who you are in this creation?
Where do you receive the energy, the love, the support,
the strength of being the most aligned being that you
can be. This is a challenge for all humans, a
challenge to become present, a challenge to become a li mind,
a challenge to hold a strong foundation within your being.
Speaker 1: Will be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: And within this alignment that you hold is an emergent strength,
an emergent capacity for love, a love that encompasses all
of you, a love that moves from you to others,
a love that takes.
Speaker 1: Over the world.
Speaker 2: Yet only when you recognize the potential within yourself will
this potential be true, truly embodied within you. The limitations
established by your mind, the limitations established by the conditionings
of society, the limitations established by the heart, and the
generations of pain will dismantle these limitations, will expand. The
process of expansion will cause pain for some, will cause
concern or potential fear for others. Yet, allow yourself to
be transformed, allow yourself to be expanded, and trust life,
Trust creation as it has kept you alive, and this
creation operational. Greater forces than you can imagine, greater forces
than your mind and the control that you believe you have,
are at work to keep this reality consistently operational. Therefore,
it is not by coincidence that you are alive and
humanity is experiencing what it is experiencing. This human experience
is yours, and in this experience, the potential to awaken,
the potential to go through an ascension as a collective
is given. Is closer than it has ever been for
humanity as a collective consciousness. Yet it requires for all
of you individually to participate, to partake in a conscious way.
Choose yourself, choose your healing, choose your evolution, choose love,
and see in which way is your life will change
in the lives of those around you. Thank you for
listening to our words. We will now provide an energetic
adjustment to serve your process of evolution. This transmission is complete.
Speaker 1: How are you doing, sir? I'm good. How are you?
It was a wild ride for me. Yeah, I was
kind of drunk, though I've never drank, so I really
don't know what drunk feels like.
Speaker 2: But so you were in a state between awakened.
Speaker 1: Or yeah. I actually I closed my eyes through a
lot of it because I was just kind of just
like sitting there and it was very I'm still kind
of out of it from being in it, but it
felt like drunk is the best word I can use.
So it's kind of like this weird in between vibe.
I closed my eyes through some of it because I
was just like I drank too much. Like I'm like
when you drink too much of your like you're super
sleepy and you're super trying to go down. That's how
kind of I felt, and I still kind of feel. Now.
There are certain pains and sensations that happened in my
body here and.
Speaker 2: There didn't flow warmth or heat through your body.
Speaker 1: I did not feel any heat. I felt energy though electricity, Yeah, yeah,
I felt electricity in certain areas, little little jolts kind
of the voltage if you will. But yeah, I think
people watching will full feel it. When they started to
do the transmission, I can barely talk. When when they
started doing the the energytic adjustments that my energy started
to come back up a little bit. But then I
went back to where it was where I am now,
But it came up. I just was I was very
very hyper focused or hyper aware of what was happening
to my body. So I was like, Okay, let me
just see what's happening. We'll be right back after a
word from our sponsor, and now back to the show.
So I started to feel my energy go back up.
But like the second the second you were done, when
again I'm I'm I can't talk.
Speaker 2: I can't talk an altered state.
Speaker 1: I'm literally a podcaster and I can't talk right now.
I'm just like Jeb Shoush job shoes. Ah. But yeah,
like that's how I feel. That's basically what it's happening
to me right now. It's the funniest thing. Like I
feel like I'm like i feel like I'm not even here.
I feel like I'm somewhere else right now, and this
is just like me gibberish coming out. So it's interesting
because we've done two other sessions together here and nothing
I mean and I don't mean that in a bad way.
I just I didn't feel it, or maybe I did.
And one thing I have noticed is that there are
sometimes that I'm with channelers or intuitives that are in
the room and for whatever reason, I start to go
like get a little sleepy, yeah, And I always associated
I'm like, that's wrong with you, Alex, wake up. I'd
be like, what like, And that's why sometimes I have
coffee year I'm like trying to wake myself up. But
it doesn't do anything. No, it's not it's not that.
It's not that.
Speaker 2: It's like your mind is literally going into a different
state of operation. You know, there is like different phases,
gamma different and now when you do this type of
spiritual your brain is able to operate both in the
awake state in this three dimensional as well as in
the altered states of different dimensional states of consciousness. And
when you expand into both states, then it's almost like
you're being stretched, like a part of you is awaken,
a part of you is going into just before passing
out or becoming unconscious so that you could perceive what
is happening. And it gets easier, right, it gets easier,
And sometimes it's also okay to get to become unconscious
during these processes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough for being a podcasts to do that.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't be going unconscious or I was half to
just be.
Speaker 1: I felt like lying on the floor and just going
and just going going somewhere else. That's what I felt
like doing, but obviously I can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and for some of the people that are watching,
I would recommend to don't do this while you're driving,
don't well, don't do it while you're driving, or just
know that will not.
Speaker 1: Upbraid every machinery. Well, you're listening her watching the next
Level song. That's funny. That should be a warning do
not drive heavy. It's very true though. I mean I
had had like our editors on some of these episodes,
like what's happening to me? I can't finish the edit
like I had, like you know, or or I had
a friend of mine she was listening to this specific
interview that I was talking about that was really mind
like energetically mind blowing, and she's like, I was cleaning
the kitchen. I had to stop and I had to
lie down to listen to the rest of this because
it was just too it was too much for her.
So it's interesting to me that this is starting to
happen more and more often now, where it was very
more subtle, and it's now I'm not so supple anymore. Yeah,
it was very subtle before. When I had a yogi
come in. His name is Gurunath from India. He's a
walking master. He's eighty two years old. And when he
walked into the studio, there's this there's presence about him,
and he sat in that chair and we had our thing,
and during that whole time, I was just like it
was a lot. It was one of the first times
I really kind of started to feel a lot in it.
And then I recently did another one, which I think
by this time might have been released or might not be.
I don't know when this we're going to release that
other episode he did while he was here in the States,
But I have another one ready if it hasn't been
released already. That one, he actually did a meditation five
minutes in three five minutes for the audience, a transmission
if you will, and I literally felt waves of energy
hitting my third eye. I was like visceral. Afterwards, after
he was done, he goes, what did you feel? And
I said I felt this. I was like, yeah, I
was sending you that energy. It sounds bad. It sounds
kind of warlocky, very doctor strange kind of thing that
we're talking about here, but from someone like myself who's
in the room when these things are happening, and now
even on Zoom is happening. Which is in the room
is one thing, but on Zoom now it's starting to happen.
I'm becoming more sensitive to this kind of stuff. And
it's see I'm talking now a little clear, and I
think I'm I'm coming back. I'm coming back, so I'm
having a more but this energy that I'm talking to
you right now, I could. I was not here twenty
minutes ago. I was just like kind of like just
hold on. And now I'm a little bit. I'm not
one hundred percent back, but I'm enough to have a
conversation again. But I'm not as nearly as energetically tired
as I was thirty minutes ago. Forty minutes.
Speaker 2: It is a form of spiritual anesthesia.
Speaker 1: Oh that's good. I like that. Okay, okay.
Speaker 2: So you when we are when they're delivering a message, right,
and you have the ego mind too strongly in the
forefront of your being. It filters and judges a lot
of the things that are being said and energies that
are you know, coming in to support.
Speaker 1: But when that ego mind is subdued, even if it's
just a little bit, the mind is much more open
to greater possibilities and to greater truths. And that is
when people are more receptive energetically but also mentally and emotionally. Now,
the energetic adjustment that the guides are delivering are in
some ways adjusting the energetic field that we are creating.
Speaker 2: Here with all of those that are watching past, present,
and future. Like, it's beyond space and time, that energetic field,
and as these adjustments are being done in this energetic field,
it impacts every single individual.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So most of my work is delivered through online means,
and people are having incredible experiences at home without being
in physical proximity. That is because the work is delivered
beyond space and time. It is delivered through you know,
lack of better words, through a quantum mechanism. That's beyond
space and time. And for someone watching this, it's just
like a key to a pocket of energy or to
a pocket of experience that has happened, no matter if
it has had happened in the past, but they're accessing
the energy of that which happened. And that is similar
to when you read a book, a spiritual book that
is supercharged, but it was written thousands of years ago,
you open it, you read the words, and the energy
hits you.
Speaker 1: Autobiography of video game, for yes, So.
Speaker 2: Those books or these words are a key to the
pocket of energy that was opened at that moment when
it was written. Does that make sense, Similar to the
same thing as these recordings. So what you're creating is
an archive of keys into pockets of energy of transformation.
Speaker 1: That's what the show is. What the show is, and
it's getting more intense, and it's getting more intense because
the world needs this kind of energy on this kind
of potential right now, this kind of potency right And
I don't think that I'm going through upgrades or you're
going through upgrades, or you're going through.
Speaker 2: Upgrades without reason. We're going through it because it's needed
right now, and it's not something that we can just say, oh,
I'm gonna do it next year, let me just finish
this project that I have, or when I have more
money or more time or more space.
Speaker 1: Is always something. There's always something I can rationalize why
I can't go. But spirit or your soul or the
universe or God, they're like, sorry, buddy, you've had time.
Now it's the time, and I think it is that time.
It's basically kind of putting the universe is essentially stacking
weight on your back to carry, essentially, or weight on
your arms to lift, because you have to. There's there's
a lot more coming and you're going to have to
be stronger, right, So you're going. You're being tested now
in every aspect, not just spiritually, but mentally, spiritually, emotionally, physically.
Speaker 2: I used to joke that the guides are my personal trainers.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show. I used to joke
in that way.
Speaker 2: But the more space and time I gave them to
be my personal trainers, the more they would work me.
Speaker 1: Right, So the more I.
Speaker 2: Would offer, I would say, like, Okay, here's a pocket
of time I'm assigning to this type of upgrade process.
They will say, Okay, we'll take every minute of it,
but hold on tight. It might be a little intense. Okay,
so I'll go through my process. I'm like, okay, this
is good. I need to now integrate this. And they
would say, you know, eat well, sleep enough, and these
are the things we recommend, and whenever you're.
Speaker 1: Free, ready, we'll do more. Right. I feel like that's.
Speaker 2: What's happening to a lot of individuals now. Some don't
have it as clear cut the way I do right.
For me, it's always been very in communication, in collaboration.
Some people just get hit. They wake up at three in.
Speaker 1: The morning and there's like energy is moving and they're
flapping around and like, what is going on? Right? But
that's also okay. It's just it's so built up. The
backlock is so much that it is now by through
the rising of these energies or the potentiation of these energies,
it's just moving in so strongly. We're all feeling it,
and we're all feeling it. But those that are a
little bit more sensitive, more sensitive, they feel it more,
maybe faster, and depending on what you're doing in the world.
Even those that are resistant. They're feeling it too, and
they don't understand it.
Speaker 2: They don't understand it, or they might even be, you know,
resisting it as much as they can.
Speaker 1: The thing is, these are really really.
Speaker 2: Powerful forces that are at play something that we cannot control.
And if energy moves that you're trying to control and
it is very very strong, you're going to weigh yourself
out or you're going to injure yourself trying.
Speaker 1: To resist it. Does that make sense? And in more
ways than you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so my recommendation to everyone is really create
more time for practice, whatever that looks like, and find
a good teacher, find a good guide, someone that you
feel resonant with, someone that you trust or your heart says, oh,
this is my frequency, this is my training body. And
I'm not consciously saying master or guru or teacher, because
I don't personally see myself that way.
Speaker 1: I'm just like a guide along the way.
Speaker 2: I'm just an instrument that was made into being an
instrument to support others, just to weigh power them themselves, exactly,
because the last thing I want to do is have
people be dependent on me to achieve these states of being.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely not but you're there to open doors. You're
there to crak people through doors. You're there to guide.
But that's what a mentor does. Correct in every aspect
of the word. You know, you know, Yoda did not
give Luke the power to defeat Darth Vader. No, he
opened the door. Even if you remember, I'm going to
geek out, sorry, but even if you remember, Empire strikes back.
When he's training with Luke, he's explaining things, he's opening
doors for him. When Luke goes into the cave and
faces Darth Vader, which at the end is facing himself.
I can't believe things like that got through in a
mass media kind of way. It's amazing. You go back
to those films and you look at some of the
things that George was talking about, then he's pretty powerful.
Speaker 2: It's very interesting because that explanation of the force right
is very similar to the creative force of the un energy.
It's it's basically that, and it's very similar to the
way I was talking about it earlier. How energy that
we channel can be utilized for creative, generative or for
destructive Jedi or Sith in this case. Yeah, but the
world is not black and white. It lives in the
gray exactly. It's like ninety nine percent some day shades
of gray. Some days you're the Sith, some days you're
the Jedi.
Speaker 1: It all the past, or.
Speaker 2: You're a little bit of both, operating some of it
in the shadows.
Speaker 1: But you have to but one thing. People have to
understand that all of us in this incarnation have the
capacity for both. Yes, every single one of us, yes,
has the capacity for both, and both live within us.
And that's okay. There's a shadow side and a light side.
One cannot live with the other, okay. And the shadow
side is what tests you, what pushes you, because without
it there's no contrast. We need contrast, We need duality
in many ways to be able to understand. What if
you didn't know there was a Darth Vader, there would
be no need for a look. If there were no Sith,
there would be no need for jedis correct, because there's
there has to be a counterbalance to everything, and that
includes ourselves, the ying and the yang. It is ancient,
this idea. People are always talking about trying to snuff
out the ego or you know, destroy there's love this,
destroy the dark side within them, or destroy the shadow
sides within them, and it's not the key.
Speaker 2: I think it's really about becoming aware and understanding it.
Speaker 1: Because the.
Speaker 2: So we have all kinds of experiences incomplete, right, trauma
us that we have had, you know, in this lifetime,
past lifetimes, past generations and so on and so forth,
societal things. And when we have all of these unprocessed things,
what happens is they will at some point want to
manifest themselves into this reality. The reason is because they
want to be understood and realized into completed learnings. Okay,
so if they're incomplete, they can only hang out for
so long, but eventually, through unconscious means, they will start.
Speaker 1: To manifest themselves into life. So what I mean with
that is your next relationship, your.
Speaker 2: Next work struggle, your next life struggle, your next health
struggle might manifest itself because it's an unprocessed element of
the past. And so we then talk about oh, darkness
and the shadows.
Speaker 1: And all of that.
Speaker 2: But these energies are necessary in order for you to
come to a realization and learning. But what if you
could come to these realizations and learnings without manifesting them
into being, without having these destructive energies lead your life
in an unconscious way. What if you spend conscious space
and time to complete these learnings and to become more
aware of this unprocessed before darkness comes in and starts
to force fully manifest it, because it's time to learn
and complete this right, So, in that sense, darkness is
not bad or evil. It's a mechanism to complete learnings.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's a mechanism to complete learnings. Is it painful, yeah?
Speaker 2: Is it comfortable, No, absolutely not, But it is part
of the design of this creation. It's but there are
hacks that you don't have to go through. Yes, there
are ways to overcome and to accelerate learning. And this
is what we talk about when we say conscious choice
or conscious evolution. I am choosing to evolve and I'm
creating space for healing. I'm creating space to become more aware,
and then I become more of a conscious creator rather
than someone whose life is just dictated by my unprocessed past.
Speaker 1: And most of us are working that and that that programming,
most of us, most of us are working in that
programming of the that things happen to us. And yeah, yeah,
it's it's been fascinating again a seal, because as we've
been going through this conversation, after you get out of
the channel, I was I was down here again very
and then i went back up, and then I've been
going back. It's been this kind of wave during this
conversation afterwards, like there's moments where I'm very lucid and
other moments where I'm just like, you know, and I'm
starting to get sensations again in my you know, It's
it's constant. It's going all the time now. And obviously
everybody you interact with doesn't react this way because it
all depends on the antenna.
Speaker 2: It depends also the energy with which intention I'm delivering
the words that I'm delivering. So sometimes it's more a seal,
and sometimes it's more the channel. Even if I'm in
a just conversation right right, so I'm going and leaning
into channeled states without visibly going into channel with closed
eyes and so on, so the energy is already a
channeled energy. The words are not my chosen words, but
the actual words that are just coming through.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: And it's a really fascinating life experience because I'm observing
it happening through me.
Speaker 1: All right, So you're here not only to do this
amazing conversation the interview, but we're also working on a
couple of the projects together while you're here for Next
Level Soul TV. But specifically you're here to do a
course for a mastery course for Next Level Soul with
our new series of Mastery courses that we're doing with
exceptional teachers and from around the world. And we're I
think we're haven't shot it yet. I'm still a little
bit out of it. Damn you as I'm still drunk.
Stop getting me intoxicated with this energy we are. We're
going to be doing a course on how to raise
your frequency, which is something that is absolutely necessary, as
this conversation has really illustrated. Can you talk to people
about what the intention is behind this course, why you're
doing this course in general, what's the purpose of it
for you?
Speaker 2: So you know, a disclaimer, it's going to take more
than just a quick course course to raise your frequency
sustainably and long term. Right, So this is really a
teaser and some of the steps on how to touch
upon deeper states of presence and silence and deeper states
of observation, like neutral observation, and through this observation realizations
that complete so that I can have a stronger alignment.
When I have a stronger alignment, my frequency starts to upgrade,
and so I deliver.
Speaker 1: A greater sense of life force that moves through the
Earth and through the universe through me with greater ease.
Speaker 2: So that is when my frequency rises. And you know,
some people talk about greater sense of happiness, or some
people talk about peace and passion and bliss and all
of that. I believe that those are you know, synonyms
for a higher frequency that we hold sustainably.
Speaker 1: So that's why you say, there's certain people who are
happy all the time, and there's certain people who are
miserable all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And also I think happy and exactly. So if
we associate happiness with a certain frequency, we hold the
average frequency, and the average frequency of miserable we hold
over time, some people are more often in the lower
end of frequencies, and some people are more often in
the higher end, or they get easier into happy frequencies.
Does that makes sense? So ultimately what we want is
we want everyone to be much more quicker content doesn't
mean you're not going to feel fluctuations. It just means
you're quicker realigned. Your recovery time is faster.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: You find yourself much quicker into states of love and
open heartedness rather than preservation and closing.
Speaker 1: And that is the gift that I want to convey
in this master of course. Master course. Yeah, so it's
not only going to be a course that is instructional
on a verbal standpoint. You're going to learn techniques and
things you can do, but they'll be transmissions correct in
the course that will, just like we've been doing here
in this conversation, will wake you up a bit more.
So they'll be the educational part of it, but also
the transmission part of it that will energetically raise people up.
Speaker 2: You know, the truth is the mind's ability to observe something,
believe it, and then implement it is soon limited, and
it's not as fast as some of these energetic transmissions
can bring change and transformation. So I could teach you
all life long mental things that you didn't have to
understand and interpret and believe and test and imagine and
integrate and live out, and it could take forever, right
and I'm not saying that that's a bad way to
learn or to evolve. I've just seen evolution on an
energetic level quicker, much quicker. So the words that come
along with it is really just give the mind something
to hold on to, to hold on to, to reference
it to.
Speaker 1: Oh what's happening. Okay, this is what's happening. And that's
why we do both things.
Speaker 2: Something for the mind, something hopefully for the heart as well,
something for the energetic and physical body as well. So
all of it together is the energetic transformational package.
Speaker 1: And not only are we going to do a course,
but we're also going to do a new series as well,
which we will talk about in another time soon. But yes,
we have another series that we're going to be working
on together, and I'm excited. I don't know if I'll
be able to survive the week with you energetically. This
was any education of what I'm in for. We prepare
a nice bed for you to lie. I'm just delivering this.
I'll be like action and I'm out because it's going
to be It's going to be intense.
Speaker 2: And nothing makes me more happy to see you also
receive it, right, and you're doing a service by holding
space and holding a container for everyone that's watching and
also for everyone that's coming.
Speaker 1: But I think.
Speaker 2: For you to be able to receive it, it's as
equally important as for you to be able to provide it, right,
And I think that's I include myself in it. I
need my times where I receive it, while where I
allow myself to be on purely the receiving end for
these divine energies to work on me as they need to.
Speaker 1: Now, one other thing that I want people to understand
about you and your organization evolution one is that you
guys are nonprofit. You guys are nonprofit and you're really
just trying to help humanity in many ways. So can
you talk a little bit about your organization and what
you're looking for in the world and the help that
you need to help your organization? Thank you. You know.
Speaker 2: It's interesting. I come from a for profit background. I
used to run companies and my you know, co founders,
and that's nonprofit. Equally, they're also all for profit entrepreneurs.
And so when we started to do this work, and
Emmanuel said, we want you to deliver this work as
freely and as without barriers as possible, to humanity as like,
oh man, this is going to be a nonprofit right,
and this is going to be a feel that we
have no idea in, Like how do you raise money
for you know, channeling energies and transmitting energy for people
to emerge and evolve and work on the energetic grade
of the world. I mean, it's as crazy as it sounds.
Speaker 1: Right one hundred years from now won't sound crazy, but
right now, right now, it sounds like a turn. So
that hasn't been an easy task I can imagine. And
but what's amazing is we are a public charity. So
that means for anyone from within the US that is
interested and aligned with this mission that we're on in
the collective evolution of humanity. By assisting the individual in
their evolution, and by also working on the energetic grid,
and by also developing pillars of light individuals that are
in service and so on trainings, we are changing the
fabric of society. We are bringing humanity to the next level.
And anyone who is mission aligned and wants to have
a tax break in the United States, we are a
proper public charity and we are meant to receive the
majority of our funds through fundraises so that we can
offer our programs as affordably as possible with as many
scholarships as possible. Well, where can they go if they
want to help with you and they find out more
about what you guys are doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Evolution dot one is our official and public site
and there is all the possible abilities to donate, but
also to reach out to us to understand our mission,
especially for major donors that want to be truly part
of a global transformational plan.
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very excited about that, and we're here to support you
in any way we can in your mission because you know,
not only do we love you, Zeal, but you know
what you're trying to do for the world. We need
more people like you out there, and we need more
people like you trying to shift humanity, energetically, spiritually, mentally,
and you're one of many warriors, spiritual light warriors out there,
you know, battling, battling to get not battling, struggling to
get everybody up and to find the power within themselves.
And that's the very big key there is to find
the power within themselves. That everyone listening right now has
the power within themselves to change their lives in a
moment and to upgrade themselves and to awaken themselves. And
if you're listening to this, you have been brought here
for a reason. You've been guided here to listen to
this specific conversation so you can upgrade and you can
go to the next level if you will. So, my friend,
my brother, I appreciate you being here. As always. I
look forward to all the cool things we're going to
be doing later this week as well, and everything we'll
be doing hopefully in the future as well, my friends,
So I appreciate you and everything you and everyone at
Evolution one is doing to awaken this planet. So thank you,
Thank you, Alex. I look forward to it as well.
Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.
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