Speaker 1: I don't think this is going to work today. It
Speaker 1: is a Bill Cunningham show. That's his theme, bad to
Speaker 1: the bone, which he is, of course, But Bill isn't
Speaker 1: here today. It's two days before Christmas and a day
Speaker 1: after a special event in my life. Belated birthday party
Speaker 1: begins now on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: And I got older, losing my head many years from now,
Speaker 2: will he still be sending me follow time birthday greetings,
Speaker 2: bottle of wine. It let me down till quarter to three?
Speaker 2: Would you lock the door?
Speaker 3: Will you you'll need me? Will you'll feed me?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 4: I'm sixty four?
Speaker 1: Gary Jeb Walker in for Willy on this December twenty third,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. A big show between now and three
Speaker 1: o'clock will include the music professor Jim Levarbara, who shares
Speaker 1: that special day with me December twenty second, and along
Speaker 1: the way, doctor John Hubert, Dave Tech, Guy Hatterer, Rick Robinson,
Speaker 1: some of my favorites, I mean, my favorite people to
Speaker 1: talk to on the radio, not named you, because I
Speaker 1: love talking to you on the radio.
Speaker 4: A long way from nineteen sixty.
Speaker 1: Here we are, and our first guest on this special
Speaker 1: belated birthday show is the one and only, well not
Speaker 1: the one and only, but my favorite.
Speaker 4: Hey, well done. It's like Breakfast with the Beatles all
Speaker 4: over again. Yeah, the Beatle Thing.
Speaker 1: Circa two thousand and eight.
Speaker 4: Peter Brownson.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show and the belated birthday
Speaker 1: show for Gary, Jeff, Jim, Lebarbara and anybody else who's
Speaker 1: a winter solstice baby.
Speaker 4: It's great to have you in the studio again. Yay,
Speaker 4: glad to be here with you.
Speaker 5: You know, I was listening to that classic when I'm
Speaker 5: sixty four. You know how you can be absolutely sure
Speaker 5: that was written by somebody in their twenties, because he says,
Speaker 5: when I've been out till quarter to three, nobody who's
Speaker 5: sixty four?
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, that's maybe quarter to three in the afternoon.
Speaker 4: I will listen. I'm late for the Early Bird special.
Speaker 4: It's two forty five. I'm going to lock the door.
Speaker 1: At a quarter to three, locking the door. They're talking
Speaker 1: about the buffet. Yeah, Malden Crown, make sure lunch ins
Speaker 1: at two forty five. You better be here beforehand, mister,
Speaker 1: And you give me this wonderful book Happy from New
Speaker 1: York Times bestselling author Timothy Keller I guess with his
Speaker 1: wife Kathy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, wow, Timothy is he's really Tim Keller is just
Speaker 5: one of my favorite guys for really great.
Speaker 4: It's your wife, Kathy, Yes she is? Yes, yes, all right.
Speaker 1: So that's another A year of daily devotions in the
Speaker 1: in the Book of Proverbs, God's wisdom for navigating life.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a little daily devotional, as you
Speaker 1: were saying, yeah, and I just randomly turned pages, but
Speaker 1: there's one for every day.
Speaker 4: Proverbs are so rich, they're just fantastic and psalms.
Speaker 1: But a kind hearted woman gains honor, but ruthless men
Speaker 1: gain only wealth eleven sixteen. Wow, Well I don't have
Speaker 1: I have not accumulated much wealth, So I guess I'm
Speaker 1: not that ruthless. I do have a kind hearted woman.
Speaker 1: But who is here as well? Christ To two point
Speaker 1: zero is sitting back in the Cincinnati Harambe's chair. She
Speaker 1: is she is our door person, our door woman. She
Speaker 1: is going to make sure that there's proper crowd control.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know that none of the riffrafft come in.
Speaker 4: Kind of the van of white sure, the Gary Jeff
Speaker 4: Walker show.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I've got specially selected riffraff on this
Speaker 1: show against It's gonna be fun. The phone lines are open.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you want to talk about, and personally,
Speaker 1: I don't know. My wife is still very concerned about
Speaker 1: possibly losing Frish's Tartar sauce. She told me this morning
Speaker 1: that she's got to go get a big Boy while
Speaker 1: they're still open. Oh yeah, And I would stock up
Speaker 1: on the tartar sauce.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Somebody needs to get on that and pick it up
Speaker 5: as a product, absolutely and make it as like something
Speaker 5: you can order online with all their other like their
Speaker 5: pumpkin pie. Sure wouldn't people, or their strawberry pie. Wouldn't
Speaker 5: that be like just a Frishes catering service. Here's the
Speaker 5: thing you swing by and pick it up on the holidays.
Speaker 1: And they sell frozen white castles in the box. I
Speaker 1: don't know how good they are. I've always been a
Speaker 1: little afraid of white castle in general. But a bullet burger. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they could sell fishes, big boys and frozen well.
Speaker 5: I think they really do well with the pumpkin pie
Speaker 5: because it freezes pretty well from what I've seen. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and same with the tartar sauce, wouldn't it. I mean
Speaker 5: that be a nice frozen product, and the strawberry pie.
Speaker 1: So think about it. You become a regular around here.
Speaker 1: You were on the Stooge Report last Friday.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if I hang around here to get accused of loitering, well, no,
Speaker 5: be careful, they might put you on the payroll.
Speaker 4: And you don't want that.
Speaker 1: Oh, if you do not want that, because there are
Speaker 1: certain things that come along with it, certain strings.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the ties that bind.
Speaker 1: And so I haven't been on anybody's payroll in a
Speaker 1: very long I was going to say, see, you're not used.
Speaker 5: Obligations to come with it are just not my game anymore.
Speaker 1: So think about it. Well, we've got these few minutes
Speaker 1: together here in this half hour. What do you think
Speaker 1: who do you think was the person of the year?
Speaker 1: Do you think time finally got it right with Donald
Speaker 1: Trump being named Man of the Year. If you're going
Speaker 1: to have an award such as that in the first place.
Speaker 4: No doubt, no doubt. Yeah, there's just nothing like this.
Speaker 5: What's happened We've I mean I I've lived a little
Speaker 5: bit longer than you, Gary, Jeff, and in my lifetime,
Speaker 5: if I think back to all the things that have
Speaker 5: happened in politics and presidential races, There's never been anything
Speaker 5: like this. I mean, we can go back to Watergate.
Speaker 5: I was around for that as in my teens. That
Speaker 5: was pretty spectacular. But to see this kind of comeback,
Speaker 5: that was Nixon's big comeback, of course, and then Watery followed.
Speaker 5: But to see this kind of comeback and the attempt
Speaker 5: at assassinations and they threw everything at this guy, I
Speaker 5: mean everything, and now we're beginning.
Speaker 4: To try to put him in jail exactly.
Speaker 5: And now we're beginning to find out for doing his
Speaker 5: job and dishonest. Those January six hearings were with Liz
Speaker 5: Cheney and Adam Kinsinger and all those clowns. They were
Speaker 5: hiding evidence, shredding papers, destroying videotapes of testimony, unbelievable pollit
Speaker 5: bureau style star chamber stuff. They use a polite word,
Speaker 5: you held back, I saw you kind of bite your tongue.
Speaker 4: Stuff. No, But.
Speaker 1: The other thing and part of this comeback, I mean
Speaker 1: they they impeached him for actually doing his job.
Speaker 4: Yes, for speaking to a foreign leader, uh huh, yeah.
Speaker 1: About any corruption that may come in between relations between
Speaker 1: two countries and the United.
Speaker 5: Perfectly reasonable question for a US president when he's dealing
Speaker 5: with the most corrupt oligarchy on the planet, perhaps next
Speaker 5: to the sort.
Speaker 1: But they wanted to make sure that they got their
Speaker 1: puppet elected, no matter what they had to do to
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 4: Yep, yep. And then you're compare pluding.
Speaker 1: Stuffing ballot boxes, including massive voter fraud in twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: taking advantage of a scared public during the pandemic doing
Speaker 1: you know, don't let a crisis go to waste, the
Speaker 1: old rama manual. And they're bringing RAM back because they're
Speaker 1: in such disarray right now. They may never recover there
Speaker 1: at this point're in trouble, but they'll bounce back.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: They're like the people, the scary guys in the Halloween movies.
Speaker 5: They're always popping back up somewhere around in a closet
Speaker 5: or something, and they'll jump out and try and cause
Speaker 5: as much chaos again as they can. But what the
Speaker 5: other reason, just going back to the pick for Man
Speaker 5: of the Year is the profound change This is already
Speaker 5: working in our culture, in our entertainment, in our daily life,
Speaker 5: in our national and international affairs.
Speaker 1: Donald John Trump is the president right now, he just
Speaker 1: does not have the power of the executive order, which
Speaker 1: he will exercise in full on January twentieth, to negate
Speaker 1: to reverse all of the terrible policies that were enacted
Speaker 1: under the Biden administration. And people are just seeing them
Speaker 1: walk around, just wondering, where's the president, Where's Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: They could have been asking that question four years ago
Speaker 1: and been valid in asking that question, because he's never
Speaker 1: been in charge of anything. It's all been Susan Rice
Speaker 1: or some other unseen powers that be in the hierarchy
Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party. But now we have a fighter,
Speaker 1: a true fighter, not just for himself but for all
Speaker 1: of us, you know, as signified by that iconic fight
Speaker 1: fight would blood trickling down his face?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: And I don't know if you saw it, but the
Speaker 5: Wall Street Journal did a blockbuster investigative story the other
Speaker 5: day that said, Joe Hiden really wasn't confident as president
Speaker 5: for the past four years.
Speaker 4: And it's like, really, now, you tell us, I mean,
Speaker 4: we were watching it.
Speaker 5: We kind of noticed this if we were watching, And
Speaker 5: I wrote in the comment section, I said, so what's
Speaker 5: your next breaking news? Going to Dallas was probably a mistake.
Speaker 5: For John Kennedy. Really now we can.
Speaker 1: Tell you jeez. So if I can ask how old
Speaker 1: a man are you?
Speaker 5: Seventy one and I will be seventy two on January tewod,
Speaker 5: so you're getting there. I'm also right around Christmas birthday,
Speaker 5: which is less and less important.
Speaker 1: Well, plus and there's a lot less physical exertion once
Speaker 1: you get into your seventies because you're no longer a
Speaker 1: sex juagenarian.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to touch that one.
Speaker 1: No, no, Peter, the book promised land is I guess
Speaker 1: doing well.
Speaker 5: Oh, it's doing great. Yeah, and all the others as well.
Speaker 1: The only person I know who actually bought airtime on
Speaker 1: this station to promote your book. You don't know any
Speaker 1: other author that I've interviewed who actually buys airtime. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. And when you got all this free airtime,
Speaker 1: well it works.
Speaker 5: It works to get the word out for people and
Speaker 5: help them understand that there's something new on the market
Speaker 5: there for Chris Shore.
Speaker 4: But also I like to do that because, as you know,
Speaker 4: but many of your listeners may not.
Speaker 5: I'm also a publisher and I do about fifteen titles
Speaker 5: a year for other authors, So I like to do
Speaker 5: these advertising kind of test drives so that when my
Speaker 5: other authors come to me and they say, what can
Speaker 5: I do to promote my book? I can tell them
Speaker 5: this works, that doesn't. I can tell you some things
Speaker 5: really work and some things do not work at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Promised Land, how the Midwest was one about?
Speaker 1: You know, you think you got it tough today with
Speaker 1: your first world problems. You have no idea what it's
Speaker 1: like to come into a totally literally foreign land to you, Yes,
Speaker 1: to start a new life, to make your family a
Speaker 1: home in this vast wilderness that was the United States
Speaker 1: in the late seventeen hundreds, early eighteen hundreds, the mid
Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds. The Miami Valley and the Miami Valley, beautiful
Speaker 1: place and clean water. You're encountering. You're encountering for your
Speaker 1: struggles of people who were very, very warlike.
Speaker 4: Oh no kidding, The Miami and the shawn and so fearsome.
Speaker 5: Even the other Indian tribes would not mess with the
Speaker 5: Miami and the Shawnee.
Speaker 4: And they were they were evil to each other before
Speaker 4: white men ever got here.
Speaker 5: Yes, they had perfected the arts of torture, of brutality.
Speaker 5: Look at they're a stone age people. They don't have
Speaker 5: the wheel. I mean, they've mastered fire pretty well, and
Speaker 5: they're really good at using that to torture people. But
Speaker 5: you know, for example, it would take hundreds and hundreds
Speaker 5: of acres to sustain a Shawnee, a small group of
Speaker 5: Shawnee people, because they would hunt all of the wildlife
Speaker 5: out of that area. And then that's why they were
Speaker 5: so nomadic. They had to move to a new area
Speaker 5: where the wild wildlife wasn't aware of them, so they
Speaker 5: could again.
Speaker 4: But they took.
Speaker 5: Thousands of acres to support a Shawnee village, whereas when
Speaker 5: the first settlers came, ten or fifteen acres could support
Speaker 5: their family, forty acres could support a whole village, one
Speaker 5: d two hundred acres could support a town.
Speaker 1: It's too late for Christmas shopping on December twenty third,
Speaker 1: but if you're interested and haven't checked it out yet,
Speaker 1: Promised Land the latest by Peter Bronson available. You can
Speaker 1: go to your website, yes and order that as well.
Speaker 1: Right chilidog press dot com. I had some specials going.
Speaker 5: I'm still doing that, so free shipping and up till
Speaker 5: Christmas we are running two day shipping. But now that's
Speaker 5: not as important because it's really too late to shoot
Speaker 5: them for the two day shipping.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, and you can buy the book for
Speaker 1: Peter's birthday, which is January twod probably have it in
Speaker 1: time for Pete's birthday.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being with me this afternoon and.
Speaker 5: My party of the later birthday to you, and Merry
Speaker 5: Christmas to you and Christa, and hope you guys have
Speaker 5: a great twenty twenty five. Jim Lebarbara will be here
Speaker 5: a little bit later on just past one o'clock, and
Speaker 5: my friend doctor John Hubert, forensic psychologists based out of Austin, Texas,
Speaker 5: is coming up after the news. A shout out to
Speaker 5: Nicole at Humberts. You just made our day. We're busting
Speaker 5: our bud at Humberts and I just heard you on
Speaker 5: the radio. It's a great We love you. And also
Speaker 5: former Saturday Morning producer Grant Happy belated miss you and
Speaker 5: still listening and thank you my brother.
Speaker 4: We'll take a break and come back.
Speaker 1: Happy birthday to me seven hundred w l wid.
Speaker 6: Happy holiday holiday, Happy holiday, while the merry bells keep
Speaker 6: ringing Happy holiday.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't really mind people saying happy holidays.
Speaker 4: Because they want to be inclusive.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's fine, and that's very much a Christmas
Speaker 1: spirit kind of added to.
Speaker 4: But I say Merry Christmas. No, it's wide on the ground.
Speaker 4: What do you say Merry Christmas exactly?
Speaker 1: You can speak into the mic, it's the holid Well,
Speaker 1: no you can't, because she took the mic down, Kenzie.
Speaker 1: Just for future reference, please keep all microphones up. The
Speaker 1: entire show great because you never know there's going to
Speaker 1: be more people in this studio here. Look, it's a
Speaker 1: belated birthday party on the Bill Cunningham Show for me, Gary,
Speaker 1: Jeff Walker, Jim Larbarbara and anybody else lucky enough to
Speaker 1: have been born on the Winter Solstice, shortest day of
Speaker 1: the year, but a lot a long nights my birth
Speaker 1: history and joining us now is my friend, forensic psychologist
Speaker 1: based out of Austin, Texas, a long time radio guest
Speaker 1: of mine and an even longer time well.
Speaker 4: He's a mess.
Speaker 1: Doctor John Huber is here as we approach Christmas, and
Speaker 1: doctor Huber, first and foremost, welcome to my belated birthday party.
Speaker 4: How are you?
Speaker 7: I am amazing and happy the amazing birthdays to you too, Thank.
Speaker 4: You, thank you.
Speaker 8: Very much.
Speaker 1: Christ is here, She said, I want to hear doctor Hubert.
Speaker 1: So she slapped on a pair of headphones and.
Speaker 7: And said, hello, get afternoon Christ.
Speaker 1: All right, So, uh, what's going on? They're around the
Speaker 1: Hubert Hacienda as we lead up to Christmas Day on Wednesday?
Speaker 1: Oh well, you know.
Speaker 7: The whip crackers got everybody vacuum in and and mowing
Speaker 7: the lawn and getting everything nice and ready for all
Speaker 7: the guests that we have coming in the next couple
Speaker 7: of days. And uh, you know, just just preparing. We
Speaker 7: decided no turkey or hand we did that for thanks
Speaker 7: and we were doing faidas for Christmas dinner.
Speaker 4: Now what what kind of fidas?
Speaker 8: Though?
Speaker 9: B bce.
Speaker 7: That's all That's all there really is. Everything else is,
Speaker 7: you know, just a cheap imitation of the original.
Speaker 1: Now do you spice him up Texas style? How do
Speaker 1: you do your fadas?
Speaker 7: He definitely marinate with jalapenos and beer.
Speaker 4: And uh yeah good.
Speaker 1: My wife has rolling her eyes because she can't have
Speaker 1: anything spicy in her mouth. Uh she'll start coughing like
Speaker 1: like she's choking.
Speaker 4: Literally, No, yeah, I see.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not either. But but the thing is, if
Speaker 7: you do it right. You can actually flavor them with
Speaker 7: the jlapenos and not add spice to it. So you
Speaker 7: need to know your audience. And sometimes usually what we
Speaker 7: do is we make some that are spicy and some
Speaker 7: that are not spicy. You know, any of the white
Speaker 7: membrane on the inside of the pepper or the seed,
Speaker 7: you scrape all of that out.
Speaker 1: See I know that, but that's still she she thinks
Speaker 1: the meat of a jalapeno is too spicy. No, if
Speaker 1: I ribon seed it, you should be good. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: Uh So, doctor, this is a tough time of year
Speaker 1: for a lot of people. Maybe somebody who's listening right now,
Speaker 1: But do you have any recommendations as someone who who
Speaker 1: practices psychology for people who are struggling with maybe a
Speaker 1: loss of a family member or perhaps who knows. Corporations
Speaker 1: really don't care much most of the time about what
Speaker 1: time of the year they let people go. People struggling
Speaker 1: with job loss, And it's just it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: such a joyous team. It's the holidays season, so hoopedie
Speaker 1: do and hickory doc and you.
Speaker 4: Find a word that rhymes with doc, and you you
Speaker 4: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's just one of those things that I've had some
Speaker 1: low points around the holidays, around Christmas before once or
Speaker 1: twice in my life, but mostly I've been blessed by
Speaker 1: God with a great family and enough bounty to at
Speaker 1: least sustain myself and sustain my joy. But what's a
Speaker 1: recommendation from a doctor John Huber for people who are
Speaker 1: I mean, are there any are there any quick fixes
Speaker 1: at all?
Speaker 7: Well, one thing I say is do your best to
Speaker 7: not be alone. I know it's hard sometimes when you're
Speaker 7: away from family or you know, the bottoms dropped out,
Speaker 7: but you're not the only one who's going through that.
Speaker 7: And the fact that you're alive and breathing, you know,
Speaker 7: I can testify to this gives you an opportunity to
Speaker 7: make your world a better day tomorrow. Just make everything
Speaker 7: a little bit better, even if it's just one inch better,
Speaker 7: that means it was better than the day before, and
Speaker 7: you're moving in the right direction. And you know it's
Speaker 7: a struggle. I mean, people who suffer from depression, you
Speaker 7: know it's not like, oh, just snap out of it. Well,
Speaker 7: if you could just snap out of it, it wouldn't be
Speaker 7: clinical depression. And you have to realize though that some
Speaker 7: of the some of the habits, you know, they told
Speaker 7: us to do during COVID Stay in your house, don't
Speaker 7: be around friends, don't talk to people all that those
Speaker 7: are the worst things you can do for anxiety and depression.
Speaker 7: Get out there, talk to people, and just be around
Speaker 7: other human beings. You don't have to be the life
Speaker 7: of the party, you know, just be out there and
Speaker 7: realize that, you know, there are people who want want
Speaker 7: other people around them just like you, even though you
Speaker 7: don't feel like it. Sometimes.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, ken Brew had a guest on earlier
Speaker 1: before I came on the air talking about and you
Speaker 1: mentioned the COVID lockdowns and the mandates and everything else
Speaker 1: that occurred for a numbingly long time in our country
Speaker 1: and in our world and in our lives, and how
Speaker 1: much that isolation hurt, especially kids who need socialization. They
Speaker 1: need to attend a classroom in person, They need to
Speaker 1: have interaction with other people, They need to see people's faces, yes,
Speaker 1: and show their own faces and emotions. And we're still
Speaker 1: dealing with that to a great extent in this country.
Speaker 1: The the hangover from what I called the scamdemic is
Speaker 1: really one of the worst morning afters that I've ever
Speaker 1: seen in my life.
Speaker 7: You, oh, absolutely, And you know it's crazy. You know,
Speaker 7: we've known for a very long time. We're talking like
Speaker 7: thousands of years that covering one's face makes you less
Speaker 7: likely to stand up for yourself and significantly less likely
Speaker 7: to stand up and help or protect other people. So
Speaker 7: putting on this mask that Fauchi's own research from two
Speaker 7: thousand and four showed that it's ineffective at stopping the
Speaker 7: virus pandemic or any type of a pandemic like that.
Speaker 7: All it did was make you less likely psychologically to
Speaker 7: stand up for what you know is wrong. So you know,
Speaker 7: one of the things I recommend for people is, you know,
Speaker 7: if you're sick and you don't want to give somebody
Speaker 7: you know, because you might sneeze. That's a perfect reason
Speaker 7: to wear the mask to keep from sneaks on people
Speaker 7: and passing it that way, because even if the virus
Speaker 7: does get through the mask, which we know it can,
Speaker 7: but when you sneeze like it, it limits how far
Speaker 7: it goes and it stops how far it's out there.
Speaker 4: The other thing I want to.
Speaker 7: Tell you to do is get outside. Sunlight is an
Speaker 7: amazing anti viral. So get get outside. Plus it's also
Speaker 7: an amazing antidepressant. When sunlight hits your skin, your body,
Speaker 7: you know, starts making vitamin D and the byproducts that
Speaker 7: your body makes vitamin D out of will go into
Speaker 7: the blood brain barrier into your brain, and your brain
Speaker 7: then can make those neurotransmitters like dopamine, nor upenephrin serotonin
Speaker 7: and balance out your normal hormonal and neural transmit mission.
Speaker 7: Uh homeostasis the balance that you need to have. So
Speaker 7: get outside and do it at least a half an hour,
Speaker 7: maybe an hour or so. If you're worried about, you know,
Speaker 7: getting sunburn or something like that, it can be indirect sunlight,
Speaker 7: you know, get under a tree, pull up a chair,
Speaker 7: sit back. If it's like here, you know, it's it's
Speaker 7: nice and comfortable outside right now, and you can get
Speaker 7: under a tree or in the direct sunlight. And man,
Speaker 7: that's some of the best things you can do for
Speaker 7: yourself this time of year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, during during the lockdowns, when the governor of Kentucky
Speaker 1: where we live, Andy Basheer, was telling people if they
Speaker 1: attended a church service that was open, they they might
Speaker 1: and they actually sent agents to church parking lots to
Speaker 1: get license plate numbers of people so they could track
Speaker 1: and trace them who had been disobeying the governor's directive
Speaker 1: not to attend church. You're not to be gathering with
Speaker 1: other people during this And you know, we dealt with
Speaker 1: that in the Commonwealth, and the Commonwealth wasn't even one
Speaker 1: of the big or crackdown states. But I called the
Speaker 1: man the boy dictator, and I still called him that.
Speaker 1: And people have forgotten sadly about the things that he did,
Speaker 1: the violations of our constitutional rights, as are human rights,
Speaker 1: all in the wake of fearmning and.
Speaker 7: Oh absolutely absolutely, And it was a big social experiment experiment.
Speaker 7: I mean, they were able to control and shut down
Speaker 7: close to one hundred and eighty countries and nobody raised
Speaker 7: the gun, nobody pointed a barrel at anybody. They just hey,
Speaker 7: it's a pandemic. Listen to me. I know better than you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and they admitted that the six foot rule was
Speaker 1: just something they made up.
Speaker 4: They were just, well, what should we call it? Twelve feet?
Speaker 1: No, that's that's that's no, that's too much, six feet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go with six feet. And there was no scientific
Speaker 1: basis for any of it. And they have admitted that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what else will they ever admit?
Speaker 4: Doctor? That's the other thing.
Speaker 7: Is, well, let's see, the six foot rule is something
Speaker 7: they did at during the Spanish fluid epidemics that happened
Speaker 7: in nineteen hundred early early nineteen hundred.
Speaker 4: Yea, it was like nineteen seventeen, wasn't it something?
Speaker 7: Yeah, something like that, And it's kind of crazy we
Speaker 7: go back to there and just because they did it
Speaker 7: then it's like, wellsbout you when they hadn't did it again.
Speaker 7: It's like n because he even said on his way
Speaker 7: out that he just kind of pulled that out of
Speaker 7: the air somewhere. And there's the history lesson is where
Speaker 7: he pulled it out of what eventually stopped. Believe it
Speaker 7: or not, the Spanish flop pandemic is when they finally
Speaker 7: told everybody to forget it, just get outside. Everybody go outside.
Speaker 7: And it was during the summer, and it virtually shut
Speaker 7: the whole shut the whole pandemic down, the Spanish flu pandemic.
Speaker 1: What I was saying, doctor, is that during these lockdowns
Speaker 1: when we weren't supposed and they closed businesses and the
Speaker 1: whole thing and the economy collapsed and people were you know,
Speaker 1: driven to suicide in many sad, terrible cases. My wife
Speaker 1: and my wife and I purposely we called it asphalt therapy.
Speaker 1: We would get outside, we'd go for a ride in
Speaker 1: the car. We go fifty sixty miles. We'd interact with
Speaker 1: anybody we saw. We purposely broke their non laws just
Speaker 1: for our own sanity. I called it asphalt therapy, and
Speaker 1: it really helped. It helped us get through it.
Speaker 7: It is amazing how that can do it. You know,
Speaker 7: getting outside, getting away. You know, if you start feeling
Speaker 7: better and your attitude gets picked up and you start
Speaker 7: having a positive attitude because you feel better and not
Speaker 7: feeling depressed, it actually boost your immune system. You know,
Speaker 7: this time of year, you know, we're not having a big,
Speaker 7: you know, pandemic thing we do have. Like here we're
Speaker 7: getting ourselves beat up overseat fever here in Central Texas.
Speaker 7: This is the start of it. And it's just everything
Speaker 7: is coated in a yellow powder. Your car every morning,
Speaker 7: no matter how many times you wash it, you're gonna
Speaker 7: get up and it's gonna be yellow. Uh. And we
Speaker 7: just have to deal with it. But staying inside is
Speaker 7: not a healthy thing for you. You still need to
Speaker 7: get outside, and you need to be in that environment
Speaker 7: and with the sunlight and go out and be with
Speaker 7: people without animals.
Speaker 1: Nobody ever saying I'm dreaming of a yellow Christmas. Sound
Speaker 1: like Snoopy got busy in the snow or something. And
Speaker 1: by the way, watch out, watch out where the huskies go.
Speaker 1: Don't you eat that yellow snow? That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Uh, Well, Doc, I treasure you as a friend and
Speaker 1: as a guest. Do you have any advice for people
Speaker 1: going into the new year?
Speaker 7: Don't make resolutions there? They're a way to beat yourself
Speaker 7: up because the whole you know, doing that kind of
Speaker 7: a resolution, uh, is kind of a setup for yourself
Speaker 7: because we tend to pick huge, huge goals and we
Speaker 7: never meet them, and then again we beat ourselves up
Speaker 7: and we start spiraling down that I'm worthless kind of mentality.
Speaker 7: And what you need to do is make a plan
Speaker 7: to make small changes. And if you make one little
Speaker 7: change every day for a year, by the end of
Speaker 7: the year, you'll be a different person.
Speaker 1: It's that's excellent advice. One little change a day. And
Speaker 1: now I got to I got to remember to remember
Speaker 1: that every day now, which will probably keep my mind
Speaker 1: active and will benefit me positively in that way. Well
Speaker 1: and may or maybe I'm just talking, maybe I'm just
Speaker 1: making stuff up.
Speaker 7: What Yeah, after talking with Chris, I would say, you know,
Speaker 7: if you would just say one nice thing a day,
Speaker 7: it would change you one hundred percent. By the end
Speaker 7: of the.
Speaker 1: Year, you're not allowed to provide your own rim shot.
Speaker 1: Oh that's great. Well listen. Merry Christmas to you and
Speaker 1: happy New Year.
Speaker 10: Doctor.
Speaker 1: I know we will be in communicado very very soon again,
Speaker 1: as we usually are. And uh, my wife really appreciates
Speaker 1: the memes and the really bizarre things you send her
Speaker 1: via face about. I know, I know, and I'm not
Speaker 1: going to go through it right now. It wouldn't be appropriate,
Speaker 1: uh doctor, And Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas to you, doctor
Speaker 1: John Huber, who is currently coughing, and.
Speaker 7: Uh, yes, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: And you were, as always amazing. Thank you for being
Speaker 1: a part of the Bladed Birthday show.
Speaker 7: Doc, Thank you, my friend, have an amazing holiday. I'll
Speaker 7: talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: All right, Doctor Hubert there and coming into the studio
Speaker 1: moments ago. The other birthday boy, Jim Lebarbara, how are you,
Speaker 1: my friend?
Speaker 8: Happy birthday, Happy birthday, Happy birthday. Yeah, good, really good,
Speaker 8: feel good today.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna we're gonna in the next hour, you
Speaker 1: and I are going to spend some time talking about that.
Speaker 1: Our friend Dave, Dave Hatter is coming up right after
Speaker 1: the news here in a few months. I thought it
Speaker 1: was terrific. Oh, Peter, I'm listening. Does he write like
Speaker 1: a book a week?
Speaker 8: Then?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 8: And then they looked at he's got chilli, he's got
Speaker 8: his own press. He's been very prolific late. And what
Speaker 8: happened to inquire He leaves in selling. It's a whole
Speaker 8: different direction.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 1: I think the Inquirer's problem is way bigger than just
Speaker 1: the lack of Peter Bronson. But you're right, it didn't
Speaker 1: It didn't help at all. All right, More with Jim Lebarba,
Speaker 1: the Music Professor, Dave Hatter and the belated Birthday Show
Speaker 1: on the Bill Cunningham Show continues Gary Jeffan for Willie
Speaker 1: and It's our birthday.
Speaker 4: When do you like to listen to Scott's Sloan?
Speaker 1: I love to listen to Sloaney when I'm at my
Speaker 1: cubicle because I couldn't care less about my job if
Speaker 1: I see someone smiling at work, I instantly know they're
Speaker 1: listening to Sloaney as everyone else looks like they're on
Speaker 1: prison work details.
Speaker 4: I listened to Sloney when I was in prison.
Speaker 1: Did you really a bunch of us would drink the
Speaker 1: hoochs we made in our toilets and have a slony party?
Speaker 4: Sloney and toilet booze might be fun. Scott's loan Clony Yes,
Speaker 4: toilet drinks.
Speaker 11: No Tomorrow morning at nine on seven hundred WLW, and
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Speaker 1: and well, a water heater problem is what you've got.
Speaker 4: We can fix that.
Speaker 1: Twenty third, twenty twenty four The Bill Cunningham Show, which
Speaker 1: today is being pre emptied for the belated Birthday Show Gary,
Speaker 1: Jeff Walker, Jim Lebarbara celebrating our birthdays yesterday and again
Speaker 1: today because we just can't get.
Speaker 3: It up and got the losing my head only in.
Speaker 1: Your case Jim, it would be when I'm eighty three.
Speaker 8: I was thinking, are we born on the scene? We're
Speaker 8: born on the same day? Was it the same year
Speaker 8: you and I have were in the same year too,
Speaker 8: is that? No, Oh, not exactly you wish.
Speaker 1: So you're born in December twenty second, nineteen forty one,
Speaker 1: that's right, Yeah, just fifteen days after the attack on
Speaker 1: Pearl Harbor. And my dad went out that day and
Speaker 1: bought me a Lineell electric train. I still have it.
Speaker 1: That same day. But I was born when happened bought
Speaker 1: his son of electric train. I still have that train.
Speaker 1: So that is so cool.
Speaker 8: That was cool. That's great. You know, I was thinking
Speaker 8: back on birthday gifts that I remember the birthday gifts,
Speaker 8: and you know what, I don't remember, and I don't
Speaker 8: remember it. Did it ever happen to you? I don't
Speaker 8: remember ever in school, all through school, they never sang
Speaker 8: Happy Birthday to me because we were always on Christmas.
Speaker 4: Break well, hold hold on just a second. Never happened.
Speaker 1: Somebody may want to sing Happy birthday, Dave had or
Speaker 1: please stand by just for a moment. It's Mametry, who's
Speaker 1: a regular caller on this Saturday morning edition, who was
Speaker 1: called in today and real quickly, Mametree, this is your
Speaker 1: moment in the spotlight. Give us what you got.
Speaker 12: Baby ady, birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy
Speaker 12: birthday professor and Gary Jeff.
Speaker 9: And I.
Speaker 4: Thank you very nice.
Speaker 1: The lovely lady Lynnette also known as Mamme Tree from
Speaker 1: Florence Park here.
Speaker 4: Now, uh, what what's Christmas going to be like? At
Speaker 4: at uh at the place? Mamme Tree?
Speaker 13: Right, I thought, say, cause brought me and I got
Speaker 13: some new.
Speaker 4: Hair today, new hair.
Speaker 13: And it was my secret Sannah and they're my age.
Speaker 13: And the other age said, did you get your hair? Oh,
Speaker 13: you're wearing it. I said, yeah, I guess Santa brought
Speaker 13: it because I thought, Christine, you know one give me
Speaker 13: my wheelchair for my birthday. She said I have been
Speaker 13: over there. I said, okay, must be my secret ten
Speaker 13: and it was. And I said to this lady that
Speaker 13: told me, I said, you know I have a white boyfriend.
Speaker 13: She said, I'm sawing child.
Speaker 12: He's a hunk.
Speaker 13: Said oh, I those a little breath hair bat white man.
Speaker 4: Mama Tree.
Speaker 13: Well, he's signing blonde and brown hair and he's a hunk.
Speaker 13: Out do I have to sign autographs?
Speaker 1: Mama Tree. We got to go because we got other guests.
Speaker 1: But thank you so much for being a part of
Speaker 1: our belated birthday show.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it so much. You both by buying I
Speaker 4: love you too, all right?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 4: Dave had or how in the world do you follow that?
Speaker 9: Oh? You literally took the words right out of my mouth.
Speaker 9: Skairs chest. I'm like, really, you're gonna put me on
Speaker 9: after that? Come on, that's malurkey, my god. But a
Speaker 9: happy birthday to you, I mean, two radio legends.
Speaker 1: Well, it's just amazing. I was talking with somebody else
Speaker 1: about this. What's amazing is we're born nineteen years apart
Speaker 1: on the same day. Both of us had a long,
Speaker 1: extended radio careers, and it's all we pretty much have
Speaker 1: ever done, the both of us, and I didn't even
Speaker 1: know that we shared the same birthday until like a
Speaker 1: year or two after we met and did stuff and
Speaker 1: and but when I found that out, it was like
Speaker 1: mind blown time warp, you know, a mirrored a mirrored
Speaker 1: kind of existence within it with another generation.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, you know.
Speaker 9: For I was just going to say, for a Cincinnati
Speaker 9: area native like me, I mean, you guys are birth legends.
Speaker 9: I listened to a lot of talk radio. I think
Speaker 9: that's pretty cool. And again, happy birthday to both of you.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: As we are approaching Christmas, you sent me something at
Speaker 1: Gary Jeff Walker at seven hundred WLW dot com about well,
Speaker 1: it was about scams and especially around this time of year.
Speaker 1: The twelve cyber Scams of Christmas twenty twenty four a
Speaker 1: holiday cyber survival guide.
Speaker 4: Can you give me some of those days? Well, carry Jeff.
Speaker 9: You know, sadly it's hard to get it down to twelve.
Speaker 9: But I put this article together hopefully. I was probably
Speaker 9: a little late to the game. I should have got
Speaker 9: it out earlier, but you know, hopefully for those folks
Speaker 9: that are out there doing some last minute shopping, maybe
Speaker 9: it'll do some good. And you know, the intent before
Speaker 9: I dive into some of these is really just to
Speaker 9: help raise awareness, because the best offense you as an
Speaker 9: individual have against most of the scams that are prevalent
Speaker 9: out there is a awareness and be skepticism. You know,
Speaker 9: so much of this stuff relies on spoofing and social engineering,
Speaker 9: copying legitimate things, things that look real to the naked
Speaker 9: eye because you don't really understand how to dig down
Speaker 9: into them, and then usually either some deal that's too
Speaker 9: good to be true my first item when I'll delve
Speaker 9: into it out of a bit or be you know,
Speaker 9: some sort of urgency. So yeah, the first one on
Speaker 9: my list deals to be true. It's so easy, Garrit.
Speaker 9: Yet it is so easy to set up a server
Speaker 9: somewhere in the world, probably for free. And when I
Speaker 9: say server, I'm using that term loosely. They have access
Speaker 9: to compute resources where in the past you might have
Speaker 9: had to buy something, Right, get access to something that's
Speaker 9: dirt cheap or free, and then send out hundreds of
Speaker 9: millions of emails or texts. It's easy for me to
Speaker 9: go to Walmart's website or Amazon or pick anyone you want,
Speaker 9: copy the stuff off of it, see what deals they're running,
Speaker 9: and then send out hundreds of millions of emails to
Speaker 9: the naked eye. Look just like that, right, except now
Speaker 9: when you click that link, you're going to a website
Speaker 9: where they have spoofed it. Again. Spooping is just sort
Speaker 9: of the nerd terminologies where I've copied or cloned something,
Speaker 9: and if I'm good at it, if I know what
Speaker 9: I'm doing and I take my time, I can make
Speaker 9: something that, for all intentsive purposes, is going to look
Speaker 9: exactly like the real thing. So I send out texts
Speaker 9: or your package is delayed, you know, that's another big
Speaker 9: one on the list this time of year. They know
Speaker 9: people are shopping online. They know people are looking for
Speaker 9: those killer deals. They know if you're a guy like me,
Speaker 9: you've waited till the last minute to get your Wifely's
Speaker 9: not listening, and you know you're well, so you're you're
Speaker 9: looking for that great deal. You're at the last minute.
Speaker 9: You're probably kind of at your witsin and it's easy
Speaker 9: to catch folks off guard, you know, And that's that's
Speaker 9: what so much of this stuff is about. So if
Speaker 9: the deal seems too good to be true, it probably
Speaker 9: is right. The digital doesn't mean all these these old
Speaker 9: adages and the wisdom that we've learned over the years
Speaker 9: is true. These people are just digital comment for the
Speaker 9: most part, and they're leveraging these tools to steal your
Speaker 9: money and steal your data or both if they can. So.
Speaker 1: A healthy amount of skepticism should be exercised at all
Speaker 1: times when you're dealing with somebody online, especially if you
Speaker 1: don't know who they are really, and the only way
Speaker 1: and the only way to know who they are really
Speaker 1: is maybe to go to the actual site yourself. If
Speaker 1: they're spoofing a site, go to the actual site and
Speaker 1: see what they say and see what is on the
Speaker 1: actual site. You don't want to be fooled by some
Speaker 1: The one that I've seen most prevalently in the last
Speaker 1: probably six months, and it applies to both emails and
Speaker 1: texts to my phone, is your package cannot make it
Speaker 1: through customs or your package your parcel has been held
Speaker 1: up by USPS and you need to do such and
Speaker 1: such before you can have it delivered. And I'm going
Speaker 1: I didn't order a package, so I knew right away
Speaker 1: that there was no package waiting for me. I mean,
Speaker 1: how's that scam work, Dave?
Speaker 9: Yeah, you're exactly right there, Jess. And these scams won't
Speaker 9: all year around, but they become extremely prevalent between Thanksgiving
Speaker 9: and Christmas because they then more people are shopping online.
Speaker 9: You have these days like Cyber Monday and Black Friday
Speaker 9: where you're going to have an enormous amount of online shopping.
Speaker 9: Some recent stats I saw and they're they're in a different,
Speaker 9: actually different article I wrote about Tamu and why you
Speaker 9: should not be using these Chinese shopping sites. We can
Speaker 9: get into that if you want. That's another topic that
Speaker 9: kind of makes my head explode.
Speaker 4: But you know, let's not do that right before Christmas,
Speaker 4: your head.
Speaker 9: I keep my Gary Jeff Walker authorized duct tape nearby
Speaker 9: just in case my head explodes while listening to the radio. Yeah,
Speaker 9: but on on that front, On that front, you know,
Speaker 9: they know people are doing more shopping than ever. Again,
Speaker 9: any objective measure shows you that, and they know again
Speaker 9: it's it's really easy to send a text that looks
Speaker 9: like it came from any phone number. It's really easy
Speaker 9: to send an email that looks like it came from
Speaker 9: any address. And I think texts are even more nefarious
Speaker 9: because it's so much harder on to the naked eyes
Speaker 9: determined is a text legitimate? And you know again that
Speaker 9: healthy does of skepticism. Did I actually order something? And
Speaker 9: then if I did, do exactly what you just said. Okay,
Speaker 9: I know I owner something from let's just say Target,
Speaker 9: and I got this notification that it's delayed. I can't
Speaker 9: tell from looking at it if it's legitimate or not.
Speaker 9: My advice is, assume it's not legitimate. Go to Target,
Speaker 9: get the shipping, get the tracking number for from them
Speaker 9: that's shipping you. Goot Target dot com. Don't click any links,
Speaker 9: don't call any numbers they provide. You know, this whole
Speaker 9: boiler room operations operating in other countries where they're waiting
Speaker 9: for you to call that number and they're going to
Speaker 9: con you and tell you whatever they need to say
Speaker 9: to figure out how to steal your data and or
Speaker 9: your money. So you go to Target, you log into
Speaker 9: your account, you get the tracking number from whatever you bought,
Speaker 9: and then you know, so we ship the UPS or
Speaker 9: FedEx or whatever. You go to the ups dot com
Speaker 9: website and type in that tracking number. That's the only
Speaker 9: way you can guarantee you're not getting scammed. I'm not
Speaker 9: saying and you might not get some kind of email
Speaker 9: or text message that is legit from one of these organizations,
Speaker 9: but I am saying this type of attack is so prevalent,
Speaker 9: especially this time of year. Unless you're a nerd like me,
Speaker 9: you're running an enormous amount of risk. Just don't do it.
Speaker 9: Go out of band, go to the site you bought
Speaker 9: the thing from, get the tracking number, look it up
Speaker 9: on your own, and then you won't have to worry
Speaker 9: about getting conns right before Christmas.
Speaker 1: Now, Dave Patter, you said, unless you're a nerd like me,
Speaker 1: do even nerds like you have a possibility of being scammed.
Speaker 9: Well, absolutely, Gary Jeff, because you know, sometimes you get
Speaker 9: in a hurry, sometimes they do catch off guard. One
Speaker 9: of the favorites, you know, I do a lot of
Speaker 9: public speaking on these topics, and one of my favorite
Speaker 9: things to show, as you know, Gary jeffs on my
Speaker 9: spare time, I'm the mayor of Fort Wright and begetting
Speaker 9: enormous amount of spam and so forth there. And one
Speaker 9: of these funny emails I got was supposedly from a
Speaker 9: law firm and appeared to be divorce papers from my wife. Now,
Speaker 9: if you know me really well, you would know that
Speaker 9: email could land while we're on the phone today, especially since,
Speaker 9: like I just said, still try to figure out that
Speaker 9: Christmas gift thing. Yeah, but you know, that's the kind
Speaker 9: of thing where you know, if you don't just stop
Speaker 9: and take a breath and go wait a minute, you know,
Speaker 9: anything that's trying to create a sense of urgency, strong
Speaker 9: possibility if there's a scam there, So you know, and
Speaker 9: then I don't know if you happen to catch that
Speaker 9: other article I send you, the one about how one
Speaker 9: click can basically make you lose all your money if
Speaker 9: you read to that at the headline how I lost
Speaker 9: the fortune of just one bad click. I encourage all
Speaker 9: your listeners to go look this up. It's some crabs
Speaker 9: on security. He's a well known, internationally renowned cybersecurity expert,
Speaker 9: and he walks through a very recent scam that is
Speaker 9: very elaborate. It's kind of complex, and I don't know
Speaker 9: that you're going to want to get into it too
Speaker 9: deep in the air here, but I will just say this.
Speaker 9: They are leveraging free tools from Google. Now this is
Speaker 9: not a slam on Google per se, be Microsoft or
Speaker 9: anyone else, but they're using free tools available from Google
Speaker 9: to send messages that appear to come from Google. So
Speaker 9: it's covering their tracks. It's making it easier for these
Speaker 9: messages to slide through your email defenses and so forth.
Speaker 9: And several people have lost hundreds of thousands to millions
Speaker 9: of dollars in crypto. These are not necessarily nerds like me,
Speaker 9: but you know, fairly technical people because they let their
Speaker 9: guard down, and you know, Google says in there, And
Speaker 9: I'll just tell everyone listening to you, guess who is
Speaker 9: not going to call you and tell you that your
Speaker 9: account has been hacked? Google or Microsoft or any of
Speaker 9: these giant companies. If you don't believe me, call them
Speaker 9: and see if they take your call, see if you
Speaker 9: can get any help from Google or Microsoft. You won't
Speaker 9: be able to. They are not going to call you
Speaker 9: and tell you there's fraw on your account. So you know,
Speaker 9: if you get a call quote unquote, remember it's easy
Speaker 9: to spoof a phone number. You don't have to be
Speaker 9: a technical expert to do it. And he gets into
Speaker 9: that a little bit in this scam because one of
Speaker 9: the people who lost about a half million dollars in cryptocurrency,
Speaker 9: it was an email telling him there was strawt on
Speaker 9: his alert. Then there was a phone call through a
Speaker 9: Google provided service. So these people are smart, and they're
Speaker 9: devis and they're creative, as we talk about almost every
Speaker 9: week carry Jeff, and you know, so yes, even smart
Speaker 9: technical people can get sucked in by these things. If
Speaker 9: you don't step back, take a breath and go wait
Speaker 9: a minute, you know, what's the likelihood of this and
Speaker 9: why is this so urgent? And even if you do
Speaker 9: feel like you have to act on something, it's always
Speaker 9: best to them don't click those links, don't use those
Speaker 9: phone numbers, don't send a text back to that or
Speaker 9: anything like that. Go to the source that purports to
Speaker 9: be from on your own, and you initiate whatever comes
Speaker 9: next to yourself from the verifiable source.
Speaker 1: And you've told me many many times, if at all possible,
Speaker 1: stay as far away as possible from Google and anything
Speaker 1: Google related.
Speaker 9: I am not a Google, and I would encourage people
Speaker 9: to find other more privacy and suddenly oriented products, platforms, service.
Speaker 4: I've got a Safari on my iPhone.
Speaker 10: Safari okay, yeah, that's Apple's native browser. And Apple while
Speaker 10: every one of these big tech companies hance their problems
Speaker 10: scary Jet, none of them are without sin. It's just
Speaker 10: a question of which one is or which ones are
Speaker 10: the most privacy and security friendly. And when you look
Speaker 10: at the big players out there, you've got to understand
Speaker 10: companies like.
Speaker 9: Google or their parents' company, Alphabet, you are not the customer,
Speaker 9: You are their product.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 9: The whole model of surveillance capitalism is based on collecting
Speaker 9: and monetizing your data. There's very few things they can
Speaker 9: actually sell you, right versus Apple or Microsoft. Now I'm
Speaker 9: not saying they don't collect your data, but that's not
Speaker 9: the fundamental part of the business model. Right. Apple is
Speaker 9: selling your hardware and software. Microsoft is selling you software,
Speaker 9: so they generally tend to be more privacy and security
Speaker 9: friendly because they're in sin are different. Does that makes sense?
Speaker 4: It makes perfect sense.
Speaker 1: They've they've got a business model that is not based
Speaker 1: on just feeding off of you. Dave Hatter, I wish
Speaker 1: you a very blessed merry Christmas, you and your family,
Speaker 1: and thank you so much for being a part of
Speaker 1: our belated birthday party.
Speaker 4: Jim, you had one question, and I'll get the answer
Speaker 4: from Dave.
Speaker 8: I have Google, and all of a sudden, like four
Speaker 8: or five months ago, I have all these things come
Speaker 8: on from security, things that I need to upgrade my security,
Speaker 8: and all of a sudden, all these things are on
Speaker 8: my on my computer screen and I can't get you.
Speaker 8: I slide them off, they can write back on and
Speaker 8: it's all from some security system. You're you're you're being hacked.
Speaker 8: You've been you know, you're compromised, and I'm not. You know,
Speaker 8: it's fine checking in, everything's fine, but it just takes
Speaker 8: over my screen, my main screen, all right, Dave.
Speaker 4: Real quick sary.
Speaker 9: Jeff gives him my contact information. We haven't contact me
Speaker 9: off Wine we'll talk about it.
Speaker 4: I will absolutely Dave had her with us on seven
Speaker 4: hundred W l W.
Speaker 11: It's the most wonderful time of the year now through
Speaker 11: December twenty fifth.
Speaker 4: Jeff Ruby, It's.
Speaker 14: Dominic the Donkey Jing Jing, the Atalant Christmas donkey.
Speaker 10: La.
Speaker 1: La La La La, Dominic the donkey.
Speaker 4: Santa's got a little friend.
Speaker 14: His name is Dominic, the cuteously little donkey.
Speaker 15: You'll never see him kick when.
Speaker 14: Santa visits his paisons. He'll be because the rain decan
Speaker 14: I climb the hills of it.
Speaker 4: The lead hey king of the Jing.
Speaker 14: It's Dominic the Donkey King, the Italian Christmas Donkey La Crop.
Speaker 1: You were of telling me this past Saturday morning about
Speaker 1: this song. We had it featured on our Rock and
Speaker 1: Roll Archaeology segment, and how did it come to be?
Speaker 8: Well, nineteen sixties when it came out, but you know
Speaker 8: a lot of radio stations didn't play this, uh for
Speaker 8: whatever reason, maybe because the Italian language in the song,
Speaker 8: so it kind of just sat around and then and
Speaker 8: then later started being played on radio stations. Monty Lou
Speaker 8: Monty had a penis.
Speaker 1: A few Italians didn't have Potty Mouse. It wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been an issue.
Speaker 8: Well, that's the thing they didn't understand.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 8: The tella is a dance, littellantella and Nicole is saying
Speaker 8: Nick and Paisan is your your neighbor, your your friend? Yeah,
Speaker 8: and the cure is the little donkey, the little ass.
Speaker 8: So that's you know, and that's what the song's about.
Speaker 8: This and it's kind of confusing because he's in Brooklyn.
Speaker 8: He's making all the toys in Brooklyn. And then the
Speaker 8: reindeer you would.
Speaker 1: Did you just say that lou Monty is singing about
Speaker 1: a little ass for Chris, a little donkey, a little donkey, okay,
Speaker 1: and it's in the.
Speaker 8: Yeah, right, and the deer would fly, but for some
Speaker 8: reason they couldn't get.
Speaker 4: Up the hills of Italy.
Speaker 8: So you needed the I don't know.
Speaker 1: We have a we have a special guest in studio
Speaker 1: and Kenzie, all Mike's up, please, all Mike's.
Speaker 4: Up, including that one. All right.
Speaker 1: This is a gentleman who has been I don't know
Speaker 1: how many years he's been doing it. We'll find that
Speaker 1: out in just a moment. But he's called mister Birthday Tuba.
Speaker 1: Mister Birthday Tuba's mission in life is calling apparently from
Speaker 1: God Almighty is to call people on their birthdays and
Speaker 1: play Happy Birthday on his tuba. And today, mister Birthday
Speaker 1: Tuba also known as j C. Hartsja, Yes, is going
Speaker 1: to grace us Jim with a rendition here live in
Speaker 1: the studio on the blated birthday party for Gary, Jeff
Speaker 1: and the prof. Do your best, sir.
Speaker 6: M h uh uh uh h.
Speaker 9: M hmmm.
Speaker 6: Uh uh uh uh uh uh uhm m.
Speaker 1: H m hm h Yeah, well boo boo, that's exceptional.
Speaker 1: That is exceptional. And have you do it live? Is
Speaker 1: even better? Now if you can maybe this is going
Speaker 1: to sound awful. Maybe Christa or I can hold your
Speaker 1: horn and you can screwed up to the mic a
Speaker 1: little bit more and just set your set your piece
Speaker 1: down there, JC, all right and into the microphone. How
Speaker 1: long have you been playing the tube of JC? That's
Speaker 1: quite interesting.
Speaker 16: I trained as a trumpet player and still do that,
Speaker 16: And that goes back to June of nineteen sixty two.
Speaker 4: Oh very long time. I was a year and a
Speaker 4: half old, Yes.
Speaker 12: And.
Speaker 16: Somehow I sort of slithered into doubling on low brass.
Speaker 1: Well, low brass is better than no brass at all.
Speaker 1: I've always say, very good line, Gary, Jeff. And I've
Speaker 1: been doing the birthday tuba since at least two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven, and it's at approximately four hundred tuba ings
Speaker 1: per year.
Speaker 4: Tuba ings is at the actual official term. That's the
Speaker 4: term that I have invented.
Speaker 16: And since I'm the birthday Tube, I can invent the
Speaker 16: terms gramerion something like that, or like me a cunning linguist.
Speaker 4: Oh by it? Okay? Yeah, so you you play tuba,
Speaker 4: you still play trumpet? Right? Still play trumpet? What else
Speaker 4: do you play? Okay?
Speaker 16: And this is a meaningless statistic, but I think I
Speaker 16: have played more notes on bass trumpet than anyone else
Speaker 16: in Cincinnati. Really it's a it's an obscure instrument anyway,
Speaker 16: but it does what a trombone will do, but it's
Speaker 16: physically compact.
Speaker 4: Now, do you also play a trombone? Have you ever
Speaker 4: played a trombone?
Speaker 8: And I have not recently?
Speaker 4: What about a flugelhorn? I play that a lot, awful lot.
Speaker 1: Right, yes, So what's your What you're saying, in essence,
Speaker 1: is even a man of a certain age you can
Speaker 1: still be a very horny fellow.
Speaker 4: Oh by it?
Speaker 8: Okay, okay, well I liked about that. It wasn't just
Speaker 8: a happy birth, it was a virtue also.
Speaker 4: Oh no, a special arrangement courtesy.
Speaker 1: And then when I'm sixty four, very good also in
Speaker 1: the studio for this half art no Stooge Report. But
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Speaker 1: I've got these these guests in here. We have Paul Pisqually. Hello, Paul, Hi,
Speaker 1: Gary Jeff, and your brothers Rick and Ron Pisqually.
Speaker 4: Hello fellas.
Speaker 3: Hi Gary Jeff, your birthday, Gary Jeff.
Speaker 1: They're twins and you're the younger brother, Paul way younger. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well not that much younger. Yes, you're about you're you're
Speaker 1: my age, aren't.
Speaker 3: You little older than you?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So, so he's to make sense old.
Speaker 3: He's a couple of months older than you.
Speaker 1: So and and your brothers are twins. They are almost
Speaker 1: identical twins. I can tell the difference, though, but I've
Speaker 1: known him for a while.
Speaker 3: Gary Jeff. He'll look just like me in ten minutes.
Speaker 4: He will was He's going to start drinking. Rick was
Speaker 4: born first.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so uh you guys are what tipping
Speaker 1: at seventy one?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, next week.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of your bird Day party in advance.
Speaker 1: This is wonderful. Rick Robinson is here and he will
Speaker 1: be joining us in the full half hour the two o'clock.
Speaker 4: But it's great to have you Rick, as always. Thanks.
Speaker 1: We all want up a pleasure to be here, Gary Jeff,
Speaker 1: and especially to be in the presence of all these
Speaker 1: fine gentlemen, especially good professor Jim.
Speaker 4: What was the town you were born in?
Speaker 8: Pittsburgh? Pittsburgh?
Speaker 4: You were actually born in Pittsburgh, Okay, and grew up.
Speaker 8: I grew up in excuse Brentwood very young, and then
Speaker 8: slow Township McKee's Rock seven miles west of Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: So what was it like growing up in the U.
Speaker 1: I guess fifties, since you you know, you came into
Speaker 1: puberty in the fifties.
Speaker 8: And I was wonderful, wonderful. Holiday season was special because no,
Speaker 8: we had no television. There was no television. We all
Speaker 8: go to Grandma's house and we all sang. Our entertainment
Speaker 8: was around the piano and my grandpa played the mandolin,
Speaker 8: and I had a little mandolin that he gave me
Speaker 8: and which drama and play. And my cousin Joe would
Speaker 8: be home from college and he'd have a tuxedo on
Speaker 8: and he'd played the violin. And my aunt Dora was
Speaker 8: a classical piano player. She'd played the piano.
Speaker 4: Was just like a movie. And then it was like crazy.
Speaker 8: We had the seven course Italian dinner, which was absolutely magnificent.
Speaker 8: So that went on during the day.
Speaker 4: Seven course Italian dinner.
Speaker 8: Had the fish and the meat too. You had the
Speaker 8: fish and meat and of course the pasta of the
Speaker 8: pasta and then red wine. We had red wine when
Speaker 8: I was a kid.
Speaker 1: But what were the other courses besides you had.
Speaker 8: A salad everything, you know, the salad and the pasta,
Speaker 8: all the stuff just met up to the meat and
Speaker 8: then the you know, the fish to the fish. And
Speaker 8: then Grandpa would be at the head of the table
Speaker 8: and the youngest would be the person who would hand
Speaker 8: at The youngest child would hang on. They hand out
Speaker 8: the gifts, and Grandpa's gift was always wrapped with newspaper
Speaker 8: and uh and a rope, so we knew it was
Speaker 8: Grandpa's gift. There was always something sensible, you know, like
Speaker 8: underwear or something like that, or a staple or something something.
Speaker 1: You know, there's nothing better for Christmas than sensible underwear.
Speaker 8: And Grandpa will always shake hands with you. My grandpa
Speaker 8: shake hands with you, and you get a silver dollar,
Speaker 8: silver dollar, and think about them all the time, silver dollar,
Speaker 8: and you know, you'd get back and he would catch
Speaker 8: on the third time, you know, and give you a quarter.
Speaker 8: But that was great. That was a wonderful time. And
Speaker 8: then as I got older, my dad worked for Harris
Speaker 8: Brother's floor So starting on my birthday, you know, i'd
Speaker 8: help my dad out when I was like twelve years
Speaker 8: old on on and we'd deliver flowers. He was a
Speaker 8: delivery boy for a floorist. We'd be on the truck
Speaker 8: delivering flowers. And that was when I really learned about
Speaker 8: people because we could go to the Mount Lebanon section
Speaker 8: of Pittsburgh, very wealthy, like an Indian hill here. And
Speaker 8: I can remember Christmas Eve, you know, we're there Christmas
Speaker 8: Eve and the lady yelling at the door, after going
Speaker 8: through three feet of snow to get to the door,
Speaker 8: yelling at me to go around the back door the
Speaker 8: servants entrance. I have to walk round the back and
Speaker 8: yet in the north side of Pittsburgh with a poor,
Speaker 8: poor neighborhood, you know, the lady was, oh, oh, give
Speaker 8: you some prooki or fifty cents or whatever, and all
Speaker 8: you walked was three or four steps, you know. And
Speaker 8: so I learned a lot about people during that time.
Speaker 8: And Dad would always every Christmas we did that, you know,
Speaker 8: with my dad.
Speaker 1: By the way, I want to do a shout out
Speaker 1: to Tony Rosiello, who is our friend from Frittita.
Speaker 8: For telling you need it Italian brothers.
Speaker 1: And I missed the breakfast last Friday. I wasn't feeling good.
Speaker 1: I know, Marty was there and who else Jansen? Denny
Speaker 1: Jansen was a keynote speaker. It was terrific. Buddy lo
Speaker 1: Rose is still there.
Speaker 8: I sat next to Mark and Mike Michaelrose, and Mark
Speaker 8: was there and Buddy was there. And then there was
Speaker 8: a guy forgetting his name. He's ninety eight years old
Speaker 8: and Buddy's ninety five. And somebody said let's do this
Speaker 8: Senior Olympics and had the two because they boxed together
Speaker 8: when they were younger. They boxed together, and they said,
Speaker 8: let's have a Senior Olympics and get you guys together.
Speaker 8: We'll charge money and go go to charity.
Speaker 4: Well that's kind of tough.
Speaker 12: I me.
Speaker 1: You know, they're still in obviously decent shape to be
Speaker 1: that age. Unbelievable, this guy, but but you know, past ninety,
Speaker 1: past ninety, you can break a hip just getting out
Speaker 1: of your chair.
Speaker 8: He watched. I was sitting next to Marty Brennan and
Speaker 8: I said, watch this guy. I said, when he comes in.
Speaker 8: You got to see him as he walked straight, doesn't
Speaker 8: hence over Just incredible, absolutely incredible. Yeah, Buddy, buddies, he
Speaker 8: probably could ride a bike too. Buddy's very impressive. You
Speaker 8: watch you watch him. He's got like twenty pounds of
Speaker 8: gold hangings. Yeah, he's got that gold hanging.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 17: We nobody I've got ance, Jim, since you brought out
Speaker 17: the Italian and the wine. Uh our mom and dad
Speaker 17: Italian also, and that we we grew up, they had
Speaker 17: a glass of wine every night. Yep, the Paisano and
Speaker 17: uh their entire life, our entire life. And uh so
Speaker 17: Ron and I had to we had a surgical thing
Speaker 17: done and we were like in the second grade.
Speaker 3: Since one of us had to do it, the other
Speaker 3: one did too.
Speaker 17: And and uh so in the hospital they asked us
Speaker 17: what we wanted to drink, and we said all wine.
Speaker 3: And uh so.
Speaker 17: When mom and that came in, they said, hey, your
Speaker 17: kids want wine and you know, eight years old and
Speaker 17: they go, oh, we drink wine every night, but we
Speaker 17: give them grape juice. And so you thought we thought
Speaker 17: we were drinking wine, you know, as we were growing up.
Speaker 1: And that was the first time that you met the
Speaker 1: people from child Services.
Speaker 8: Well, you gotta get you guys to for Telly. You've
Speaker 8: never been to the Fertelli. Yeah they are Italian. Okay,
Speaker 8: you've been for Tellian. You've never been there. We're gonna
Speaker 8: get you guys.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's a special invite thing just for pithons
Speaker 1: and the occasional uh non pithon like me. Uh they
Speaker 1: they let me in somehow.
Speaker 3: Is this down on River Road?
Speaker 8: No, it's on the Western Hills Country Club.
Speaker 4: Usually the weekend before Christmas. Usually.
Speaker 1: Uh so, fellas, just your last thoughts here in a
Speaker 1: couple of minutes, and you can stay as long as
Speaker 1: you want you guys, I don't care. I just I
Speaker 1: know you didn't bring any cocktails and I don't want
Speaker 1: to deprive you of your your usual repertee. Uh but uh,
Speaker 1: Frishes in the news today the freshest Commissary is closing.
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on losing Frishes.
Speaker 4: Guys.
Speaker 17: We have a fort Wright Frishes, and I believe that's
Speaker 17: still open.
Speaker 4: I want that one is under a different ownership.
Speaker 3: I am told, what are they going to do when
Speaker 3: the commissary closes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody's got to make the food.
Speaker 3: Somebody. The pumpkin pie guy is the Tartar sauce.
Speaker 8: The Tartar sauce is a license to a company in
Speaker 8: your park. I understand that's going to continue. Ah, so
Speaker 8: you'll be able to that's the sauce earlier. Yeah, you
Speaker 8: can still, You'll still get that one.
Speaker 17: The Bridgetown Fishes closed but I went there when I
Speaker 17: heard it was closed, I went there and got a
Speaker 17: big boy platter.
Speaker 3: H you know that's you can't beat that.
Speaker 1: That's what that's My wife, Chris the two point zero
Speaker 1: said she wants to get a big boy before they're
Speaker 1: all gone. I think the one in Bellevue, Kentucky is
Speaker 1: still open.
Speaker 17: So when maybe I saved the container, the French fry
Speaker 17: container and the big boy platter or the big boy
Speaker 17: you know, the cardboard box, the box, it's a good
Speaker 17: they're nice looking and they're going to go on the
Speaker 17: wall down at the river trailer.
Speaker 3: How many save my receipt?
Speaker 1: How many years before you put post him online as quality?
Speaker 4: It could be a collectible. It could be a.
Speaker 17: Collectible behind a chain ling fence down there at the commissary,
Speaker 17: I believe.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, didn't Willy want to buy one?
Speaker 1: Willy had his turn at the restaurant business. Ask him
Speaker 1: how it went. Listen, fellas, we're up for this half hour.
Speaker 1: We've got to break. We got a bigals update and
Speaker 1: more as we continue on the Bill Cunningham Show, The
Speaker 1: belated birthday show for Gary Jeff and the music professor
Speaker 1: jimber Barbara Happy birthday to you brother, you.
Speaker 4: An improved free iHeartRadio Apple.
Speaker 1: This Bill Cunningham Show on December twenty third, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: I'm Gary Jeff Walker in for Will and it is
Speaker 1: a Bill Cunningham show, of course, first and always, but
Speaker 1: then again it's also.
Speaker 4: Our birthday show.
Speaker 1: Belated birthday anyone born on the winter solstice December twenty
Speaker 1: second or twenty third. We are talking to you today specifically.
Speaker 2: And I got all the losing my head many years
Speaker 2: and myself individually because I officially yesterday became the title.
Speaker 4: Of a Beatles song.
Speaker 2: Birthday.
Speaker 1: Had no idea that I was going to live this
Speaker 1: long number one, would you? Thanks to our friend Ken Carly,
Speaker 1: who has come into the studio with a card that says,
Speaker 1: cranky cat hurt it's your birthday.
Speaker 4: Cranky cat, don't give a damn, but we do. Thank
Speaker 4: you very much. Ken, appreciate that. Rick Robinson here for
Speaker 4: the balance of the hour. But what's that I'll say
Speaker 4: for you?
Speaker 1: Go out there here, I have something for you here
Speaker 1: here if your pardon from from the president from President
Speaker 1: President Biden, he has agreed to commute your sentence. I
Speaker 1: didn't times spent with Willie, I didn't do anything that
Speaker 1: egregious to get pardoned by Biden. Well, he did want
Speaker 1: to commute your sentence to the time you've already spent
Speaker 1: with Willie, and you don't.
Speaker 8: You don't have to.
Speaker 4: You don't have to spend any more time in purgatory.
Speaker 9: And J. C.
Speaker 1: Hartsjay, mister Birthday Tube was also with us today. You
Speaker 1: may have heard him last hour, uh, regaling the music
Speaker 1: professor Jim Lebarbara and I with a version of Happy
Speaker 1: Birthday and his tuba and a little bit of when
Speaker 1: I'm sixty four? Can I hire him to just follow
Speaker 1: me around? Wouldn't it be great? I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you know you you know, you walk up to somebody,
Speaker 1: you know, you you tell a bad joke or you pass.
Speaker 1: When did you need somebody to come back? I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, if you know, if you got to I
Speaker 1: thought he was get to get the tubau for him,
Speaker 1: and he's getting me a card. Yeah so that so,
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. If you have a mister Birthday too,
Speaker 1: but following you around and you mentioned it, you pass gash,
Speaker 1: you can just blow blame it on him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it's my friend. The two but that
Speaker 4: wasn't me.
Speaker 1: So along with you, there are other people actually celebrating
Speaker 1: birthdays today.
Speaker 4: I have a name of a Cooper Collins. Does that
Speaker 4: ring a bell?
Speaker 1: No? But but how about t j Oshi with the
Speaker 1: with the Washington Capitals, one of my favorite hockey players. Okay,
Speaker 1: uh Ken's Ken Carly is a big hockeyed Eddie Vedder
Speaker 1: birthday him. Hell Now, now the guy from Pearl Jam
Speaker 1: who you can't understand the word he sings. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is one. This is one that's going to test your
Speaker 1: musical abilities. Tim Harden. Tim Harden sounds very familiar. The
Speaker 1: folky who wrote if I were a carpenter.
Speaker 4: Oh how about that?
Speaker 1: Uh? I wish Dave Hatter were actually here right now
Speaker 1: because he and I both being from Ludlow. It's also
Speaker 1: the birthday of a famous Bloodlodion, not lobronud Lidion, Not
Speaker 1: not Bob Bron, no Adrian Blue. Oh. And that's today, right,
Speaker 1: that is today, that celebrated birthday day, Norman McLean's birthday today.
Speaker 1: I River runs through it, one of the great short
Speaker 1: stories of all time. And from Louisville the Golden Boy
Speaker 1: Paul Horny. So all celebrating birthdays today? Do you say
Speaker 1: Louisville Louisville or Lovelle, Louisville, Losville, Louisville, Louisville, Lousville, I love.
Speaker 4: I love people who aren't from this part of the country.
Speaker 1: Only louis Vale, Louisville, Lewisville, Louisville.
Speaker 4: No, it's Lobville Louisville. That's that's the you know, the
Speaker 4: joke to play on.
Speaker 1: Everybody's pronounced the capital of Kentucky Louisville or Louisville, Frankfurt.
Speaker 1: There you go anyway. So the thing about Louivillians is
Speaker 1: that there are some parts of people who've lived in
Speaker 1: that city all their life, and it's almost one syllable
Speaker 1: when they said, oh yeah, Loo Yeah, that's what I
Speaker 1: when when there are people that come to town from
Speaker 1: from out of town, that's exactly what I tell them.
Speaker 1: Pronounce it as if you were saying one syllable.
Speaker 4: No, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: We mentioned hockey and the player's birthday from the Washington
Speaker 1: Capitals Ken Carly, how are you, my friend?
Speaker 18: I am marvelous.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 18: It's also my nephew's sixtieth birthday today. Oh really, young Piker. Yeah,
Speaker 18: he I was ten.
Speaker 4: I was when he was born, So all right, been
Speaker 4: around a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. Will happy days to him
Speaker 1: as well. H you do work with the Cincinnati Cyclones.
Speaker 18: I actually work for the league. We get paid by
Speaker 18: the Cyclones, but we worked for the league. We're what
Speaker 18: they call off ice officials. So we we do the stats,
Speaker 18: we do the penalty box, we do the gold judges,
Speaker 18: run the clock, things like that.
Speaker 4: This is a big money position with the EHL.
Speaker 18: Right, it used to be a volunteer position until somebody
Speaker 18: got struck in the eye up and I think it
Speaker 18: was Fort Wayne or something, and then they decided when
Speaker 18: that guy sued the league, they decided they better make
Speaker 18: us all employees so they'd have workmen's comp then. So,
Speaker 18: but yeah, we're technically employees of the league.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I wouldn't claim to be employees of the
Speaker 1: Cyclone side. Well, so how far do you go back
Speaker 1: on that? Do you go back to the Stingers days
Speaker 1: or are you do you just just cyclones?
Speaker 18: Just the Cyclones actually got involved with them when they
Speaker 18: moved from the gardens downtown. I grew up and didn't
Speaker 18: grow up on the east side of town, but we
Speaker 18: moved to the east side of town and that was
Speaker 18: when it was closer to go to the game. Just
Speaker 18: down what was you know, Riverfront Coliseum, the Crown, what
Speaker 18: else has it been? First Star Center?
Speaker 4: Yeah, all of that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, people people sometimes forget some of the great
Speaker 1: players that played on those old Cyclones teams.
Speaker 4: Bring it up.
Speaker 18: I mean he was he actually won a Stanley Cup
Speaker 18: first year in his in the league when he was
Speaker 18: a rookie.
Speaker 4: With and our gardener was there, Uh a lot of guys.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they were.
Speaker 18: When they had the i h L, they were more
Speaker 18: of a league where the the players that were in
Speaker 18: the NHL came down and played for the Cyclones for.
Speaker 4: A while just to rehab or to their career.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was when it was the International and now
Speaker 1: it's more up and coming players. Yeah, it's that are
Speaker 1: aspiring to be in the big time. What the what
Speaker 1: it is is the Double A Hockey League. Okay, so
Speaker 1: there's a there's one step above up to the majors.
Speaker 1: Completely off topic, my friend shar confirmed what we'd already
Speaker 1: found out. It looks like fishes, don't it doesn't own
Speaker 1: the tartar sauce recipe. It sounds like food Specialties will
Speaker 1: continue to make it. It will be a merry Christmas
Speaker 1: for two point h she says. And I love you guys,
Speaker 1: so thank you for that. Shar So people were really
Speaker 1: concerned about. It's amazed how concerned people are with fishes
Speaker 1: and losing frishes. I understand it's been a part of
Speaker 1: their lives, but restaurants and chains do come and go,
Speaker 1: and I guess there's always hope maybe somebody could buy
Speaker 1: the name and bring Fishes back as an entity at
Speaker 1: some point or another. I mean, chee Cheese is on
Speaker 1: the on the cheeses coming back, and and you know
Speaker 1: the other The other night, we just TGI Fridays maybe
Speaker 1: no more very soon? Will You're sitting around Saturday night
Speaker 1: with some friends from DC and they were talking about
Speaker 1: how they were needing some nice sculpture for the back
Speaker 1: of the woods there, and I said, you know, well,
Speaker 1: let's all get drunked up and go steal a big boy,
Speaker 1: which which he's got the picture. He's got pictures inside
Speaker 1: the fence of the Commissary with all of the Fish's
Speaker 1: big boys there. And I'm surprised that. I mean, we
Speaker 1: do not want to inspire anyone to commit a criminal act.
Speaker 1: But I mean it could happen. I mean they're just
Speaker 1: out there in the open, aren't they. Yeah, well they
Speaker 1: do have a fence around them, but it looks like
Speaker 1: a scalable fence. I wouldn't put up any barboire until
Speaker 1: after three days from now, because I'm going out there again.
Speaker 18: If you're a TV buff, there was an episode of
Speaker 18: Murphy Brown a long time ago where they actually went
Speaker 18: and stole a.
Speaker 4: Big boy type.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see big boys all over the country. They
Speaker 1: were I don't know what they were. They were Bob's
Speaker 1: big boy in California.
Speaker 4: Was in the South.
Speaker 1: In Tennessee when I was growing up there, and they
Speaker 1: are no more either, the Shawnees and a lot of those.
Speaker 18: They're still show neees, but they're not the big boy type.
Speaker 18: I think they're independent how well.
Speaker 1: And I know that they took the Shonees down in
Speaker 1: my hometown a long long time ago. But yeah, they
Speaker 1: tore down the show neees and they put up a
Speaker 1: parking lot. Don't it always seem to go You don't
Speaker 1: know what you got till it's go on. Rick, So
Speaker 1: you were commenting on the news the report on Matt
Speaker 1: Gas the ethics report. Now, the report says that he
Speaker 1: was guilty of all these things paying people for sex,
Speaker 1: statutory rape under Florida law because allegedly he had sex
Speaker 1: was a woman who was seventeen and Matt Gates clearly
Speaker 1: is not seventeen, and then all these other allegations, but
Speaker 1: nothing that has been proven. No, it's an ethics report.
Speaker 1: I mean it's from the Ethics Committee. It's not a
Speaker 1: court of law. It's not something of that hr. I
Speaker 1: will tell you that the mild Boss, Jim Bunning, served
Speaker 1: on the Ethics Committee, and served on the Ethics Committee
Speaker 1: during some pretty serious hearings, including the one that resulted
Speaker 1: from the House bank scandal where people were bouncing checks
Speaker 1: on the internal bank of the House of Representatives. I
Speaker 1: will tell you the people on the Ethics Committee, I
Speaker 1: don't see them as a part of some one side
Speaker 1: or the other. I know the type of people that
Speaker 1: work there. They're people that are charged with getting to
Speaker 1: the bottom of it. Now, whether that I don't suspect
Speaker 1: that Matcath's if he would have stayed, would have survived
Speaker 1: a motion for some sort of a sanction. Here's the thing,
Speaker 1: why did we not hear about any of this until
Speaker 1: he was nominated by President Trump. I mean in mainstream
Speaker 1: news blasting out all these allegations. Oh, I think we
Speaker 1: have Garret Jeff. I think it was a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago that it came out, and that's when I
Speaker 1: referred to the Ethics Committee and the Ethics Committee, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: So the other question begs is why would Donald Trump
Speaker 1: recommend someone for this job with all this hanging over
Speaker 1: his head? Because whatever is there, whether it's true or not,
Speaker 1: is obviously going to come out when you're trying to
Speaker 1: vet a nominee for a cabinet position. Well, apparently the president,
Speaker 1: the President elect lost his blothering mind when he found
Speaker 1: out that the ethics report was to be released the
Speaker 1: next day. Well, here, here's a parallel. But Jenny Gates
Speaker 1: was just trying to cover himself before. Here's a parallel
Speaker 1: point of two nominations by by President Trump. Because he
Speaker 1: may be technically the president elect, but believe me, he's
Speaker 1: president by all measures right now worldwide and in the country.
Speaker 1: Trust me, it's it's not gonna it's the only The
Speaker 1: only thing that's keeping Donald Trump from full presidential power
Speaker 1: is the ability to use the executive pen, which he
Speaker 1: will and hopefully he does. It's a great, great detriment
Speaker 1: of the bureaucracy in Washington, d C. When he takes office.
Speaker 1: But here's a parallel. All the allegations gets peaked. Pete hegseth.
Speaker 1: You know what, apparently there's there really is nothing there
Speaker 1: Matt Gates. Obviously there very well could be something there. Well,
Speaker 1: part of it is. And we've talked about this before, Gary, Jeff,
Speaker 1: you and I just bannered around stuff. It's when you
Speaker 1: start tossing out names without doing any vetting. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: going to happen.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 1: I mean it's not like it hasn't happened to presidents before.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at John Tower when John Tower was
Speaker 1: nominated to be to be the Secretary of Defense and
Speaker 1: turns out he just really really enjoyed drinking and lumonizing,
Speaker 1: and that would be the time for the tuba by
Speaker 1: the way. So you know, I mean there's a you know,
Speaker 1: if you do this stuff without doing a full vetting first,
Speaker 1: you're going to end up with some Matt Gates on
Speaker 1: the Gates is on the floor. Yeah yeah, Well, I
Speaker 1: mean and I'm sure Matt Gates is not the only
Speaker 1: one in Washington who has alleged skeleton like that in
Speaker 1: their closet.
Speaker 4: That's a town of freaks. And I tell you what.
Speaker 1: And the longer they are there as elected officials, the
Speaker 1: freakier they get. I can't wait for Jeffrey Epstein's files
Speaker 1: to come out and we find out about who all
Speaker 1: went to the island and who flew on the Lolita Express.
Speaker 1: I took a boat over. I wasn't on the plane.
Speaker 1: Rick Robinson, the way that we came to actually connect
Speaker 1: was he published this book nineteen sixty eight, and we
Speaker 1: scheduled for an interview for that, and I just founded
Speaker 1: a fascinating book, and we found out that we had
Speaker 1: pretty good chemistry talking together on the radio. So I'm
Speaker 1: glad that you could show up today, on our special
Speaker 1: day after day, and on this day in nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 4: What was America doing this day? December? This day, second, this.
Speaker 1: Day, eighteen sixty eight, Tell me this day in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty eight. The year of nineteen sixty eight was saved
Speaker 1: by Apollo eight astronauts as they circled the moon, sent
Speaker 1: back pictures and forever made Madeline Murial Hare pissed off
Speaker 1: because they read from the Book of Genesis on Christmas
Speaker 1: Eve as they circled the earth with a full Earth
Speaker 1: in the background. I think Madeline Murio Hare got her
Speaker 1: due anymore?
Speaker 4: Oh she did. She ended up suing over it.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I mean because he took a Bible on board,
Speaker 1: ultimately got her due and she found out that she
Speaker 1: was wrong all those years. We'll break for news and
Speaker 1: come back with more on the belated Birthday show on
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Speaker 1: Jeff Walker with some more special guests. In fact, I've
Speaker 1: known this next guy on the phone for years and
Speaker 1: I forgot his birthday on December twelfth, so I had
Speaker 1: to include him in the show to day if he
Speaker 1: had time for me, and he's gracious enough to do that.
Speaker 1: West Side Jim Kiefer, A happy belated birthday to you
Speaker 1: now eleven days on.
Speaker 4: And it's great to have you.
Speaker 20: Saying back to you, Gary Jeff, and it's always good
Speaker 20: to listen to you. I got a little bit of
Speaker 20: a list here, if you don't mind, I can.
Speaker 9: Go through it real quick, Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 20: Mister Tuba called me at home and played it over
Speaker 20: the over the telephone, which in the morning that kind
Speaker 20: of wakes you up. The Pasqually's I remember growing up
Speaker 20: in Fairmount and the original Pasqualis on Fairmount Avenue, who
Speaker 20: the Grimali's and the Robertos are next to your other
Speaker 20: job position over in the airport, right, And I used
Speaker 20: to love the garlic Bred. It's never changed. And that's
Speaker 20: a nice establishment.
Speaker 4: And this is the thing.
Speaker 1: The Pasqually brothers have nothing to do with the restaurant.
Speaker 1: They're not part of the families that did the Pasqually
Speaker 1: from Pasqually's Pizza was a was a first name, Theresqually's
Speaker 1: last name. But they are Italian, no doubt, and right,
Speaker 1: I mean they all smell like olive oil exactly and
Speaker 1: last Italian, as we say in Ludlow Italian.
Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead, dude.
Speaker 20: Like Lewisville the United for Telly United? Do you hit
Speaker 20: your card on you?
Speaker 1: By the way, I do as a matter of fact.
Speaker 1: I owe you a drink, You owe me a drink.
Speaker 1: I've got my FU card right here in my wallet.
Speaker 4: That's what it is.
Speaker 8: It says.
Speaker 20: I was one of the outsiders along with Dan Saint Charles,
Speaker 20: and we were in charge of handing out name tags
Speaker 20: when the when they came in and all the the
Speaker 20: limos and this the secret guys that were with them
Speaker 20: for this bodyguards. But what was funny about the whole
Speaker 20: thing is when you hand out these name tags it
Speaker 20: looked like I was in a Good Fellows movie. I mean,
Speaker 20: I mean tim Lebarbara, I mean, I can go on
Speaker 20: along with the list of p and besides Danny Jansen,
Speaker 20: I think we were the only ones in there that
Speaker 20: warn't a Taiano, you're.
Speaker 1: You're you're waiting for like Joe Pesci or or what's
Speaker 1: his name, Rayleiota to come in at any moment and
Speaker 1: start shooting the.
Speaker 9: Place that was.
Speaker 20: I think there was a lot of guys that looked
Speaker 20: like Joe Pesci who came in there.
Speaker 4: To be quite honest with you, well, we can't hide
Speaker 4: our jeans.
Speaker 20: We can lot take time about one hundred and twenty
Speaker 20: five to one hundred and fifty, I would, he had
Speaker 20: to guess.
Speaker 9: And it was a super time.
Speaker 20: Tony Rosiello and Joe Cita a couple more tally on
Speaker 20: those They put on a heck of a show. You've
Speaker 20: been to it many times and we did miss you.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I couldn't be there last Friday, but listen,
Speaker 1: happy belated birthday, Jimmy.
Speaker 4: Thanks for calling.
Speaker 1: It's always good to talk to you, and we will
Speaker 1: we will speak again, all right.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Next up on the list is a guy I talked
Speaker 1: to quite often on my night show whenever that airs
Speaker 1: the Nightcap and we we do sport for the out
Speaker 1: of Sorts along with his good buddy Andy Furman. But
Speaker 1: today we've got the wild Man, wild Man Walker. Good afternoon,
Speaker 1: and welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 4: Well, good afternoon.
Speaker 19: That happy belated birthday, Gary, Jeff and belated birthday. Be
Speaker 19: still there, Jim Barbara.
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, And the prof was here a little bit earlier.
Speaker 1: He had to go and do some radio because well,
Speaker 1: what he's eighty three and he told radio.
Speaker 4: What Yeah, but what what is the secret for him?
Speaker 19: I mean, that guy is so spry, he's got you know,
Speaker 19: he's still got it upstairs. What's the secret that he's
Speaker 19: been able to be like eighty three and he's like
Speaker 19: thirty eight.
Speaker 1: I give all the credit to his bride, Sally's that's where, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just going to give the woman the credit because
Speaker 1: they they'll take the credit regardless. My wife is here
Speaker 1: and she's the only reason that I'm still here. So
Speaker 1: I'm going to give the credit where credit is due
Speaker 1: to our respective wife. Sally and Chris to two point
Speaker 1: all right, and I'm surprised you're still here because you
Speaker 1: don't have a great woman like that.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 1: No, I don't have one right now, and I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I don't need one, and I don't need one right now. Well,
Speaker 1: somebody sent me this wild man. Uh the perks of
Speaker 1: being over sixty and heading towards seventy and beyond. I'm
Speaker 1: going to read a couple of these if you don't mind.
Speaker 1: All right, kidnappers are not very interested in you. Correct
Speaker 1: in a hostage situation, you're likely to be released first.
Speaker 4: No, this is probably true. No one expects you to
Speaker 4: run anywhere, and I know that's true for you.
Speaker 3: Oh that's one.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 1: People call it nine pm or nine am and ask
Speaker 1: did I wake you? Because it's always a possibility.
Speaker 19: Well nine am, don't call nine pm.
Speaker 8: I'm up.
Speaker 1: People no longer view you as a hypochondriac. They know
Speaker 1: you're telling the truth. There is nothing left to learn
Speaker 1: the hard way. You've already done all that heavy lifting. Oh,
Speaker 1: been there, done that?
Speaker 9: So have you?
Speaker 1: Yepin things that you buy now will never wear out
Speaker 1: Here to that point, this is the last one of
Speaker 1: these I'm ever gonna have to buy. You no longer
Speaker 1: think of speed limits as a challenge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. You get into heated arguments about pension plans.
Speaker 1: And here's one you can live without sex, but not
Speaker 1: your glasses. Well I don't wear glasses. Well obviously the
Speaker 1: other is not a problem. So you know, you're always
Speaker 1: out there swinging. So talk to me real quick about
Speaker 1: Bengals Browns yesterday and where we go from here, wild Man.
Speaker 19: Well, it was a nice win by the Bengals. They
Speaker 19: had to win that game. The defense, you know, made.
Speaker 1: A big play there in the first quarter. That brother
Speaker 1: was almost like a fourteen point swing. Bob Bell punching
Speaker 1: out the ball, Benal's recovering and going down the field,
Speaker 1: and after the guy ruined sixty six yards from scrimmage
Speaker 1: on the first play of the game.
Speaker 4: You had to do something at that point. Well, they
Speaker 4: had to and that was that was huge.
Speaker 18: That was really huge.
Speaker 19: It's a fourteen point swing right there, and then he
Speaker 19: went down and scored.
Speaker 4: Joe Barrow had another good day.
Speaker 19: Uh, Jamar Jamar Chase is going to probably win that
Speaker 19: triple crowd of receiving the defense. Like I said, they
Speaker 19: had what three I think three picks yesterday or is
Speaker 19: it two pick two picks or maybe I mean it
Speaker 19: was two or three, doesn't matter. But they beat the Browns.
Speaker 19: They won two games in the division, but they have
Speaker 19: yet to beat a team with the winning record. And
Speaker 19: here comes on Saturday, the Denver Broncos. It's the last
Speaker 19: game of.
Speaker 21: The year period.
Speaker 19: If the Bengals make the playoffs, they're not playing any
Speaker 19: home games.
Speaker 8: It'll be on the road.
Speaker 9: This is the last game.
Speaker 19: The plays is going to be going crazy, and the
Speaker 19: Bengals with a chance still as slim as it is
Speaker 19: because the needle didn't move much yesterday because the Colts
Speaker 19: won and so the the Dolphins. And you know what
Speaker 19: the scenario is, the Bengals beat the Browns. I mean,
Speaker 19: the Bengals beat the Broncos. And if that's going to
Speaker 19: beat the Steelers, well we'll worry about that later.
Speaker 4: But let's say they win.
Speaker 1: They're next to They've got the hope that the Colts
Speaker 1: of the Dolphins lose a game and the Broncos lose out,
Speaker 1: which they could because they're gonna play the Chiefs. But
Speaker 1: the Colts, Gary, Jeff, the Colts are going to play.
Speaker 1: Listen to this now that this is sad. They're going
Speaker 1: to play the Jags and that and the uh let's see,
Speaker 1: what are the giants down here? The Giant Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: good luck and the Giants.
Speaker 4: Good luck, Bengles, good luck to two.
Speaker 1: Lousy teams, and then the and then the Dolphins are
Speaker 1: going to put the Browns yet, I mean.
Speaker 4: Well, Aaron Rodgers has made a resurgence.
Speaker 3: You never know, you never know.
Speaker 19: I just don't, like I said, the needles didn't move
Speaker 19: yesterday much at all. It's still slim and none, and
Speaker 19: I think Slim has left town. But it would be
Speaker 19: great for the Bengals to finish the season at home,
Speaker 19: beat and a team with the winning record, and Denver
Speaker 19: can be beat. I'm sure Zach Taylor watched that game
Speaker 19: last week when the Chargers I played the Broncos.
Speaker 4: We'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 7: We'll see.
Speaker 1: On that, wild man, I have a guest in here
Speaker 1: who says you made his son's day at certain point
Speaker 1: in the past. Rick, what's the story. Oh, it was
Speaker 1: a good I am sure, wild man. You will not
Speaker 1: remember this, but it was in the old days down
Speaker 1: at Riverfront Stadium, when when when Queen Marge used to
Speaker 1: sit down in her chair, I go down there with
Speaker 1: my son to watch a game. He has a baseball.
Speaker 1: He wants to make sure it's autographed by somebody. He
Speaker 1: tries to go down and get marched to sign it,
Speaker 1: and the security runs him away. He comes up to
Speaker 1: the top of the stairs and tears in his eyes.
Speaker 1: There you are, with all the crew that you used
Speaker 1: to have the rail the rail gund Yeah, hag you
Speaker 1: behind And I looked over and I said, son, you
Speaker 1: don't want her autograph anyway. You know who this guy is.
Speaker 1: This guy's the wild Man. You took the baseball, you
Speaker 1: signed it. I think other guy's on the rail crew
Speaker 1: signed it. He thought it was the greatest thing in
Speaker 1: the world. Uh still still to this day.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 4: He even now has his own kids.
Speaker 1: He talked about going to that ball game and uh,
Speaker 1: wild Man Walker signing the baseball for him.
Speaker 20: Oh.
Speaker 1: I was always willing to sign anything for kids, and
Speaker 1: especially March's turned him down or got chased off by
Speaker 1: one of that Gestapo security.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's chased off by the Gestapo.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Does he still have the baseball?
Speaker 1: That's a good question. That's a good question. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to dig through his next time I go over.
Speaker 1: He should still have it. You know in his possession,
Speaker 1: you would think wild man, any anything that you would
Speaker 1: like to say about Christmas or my birthday or anything
Speaker 1: else on your mind, anything else on your mind.
Speaker 19: Well, I mean, I thought you were going to ask
Speaker 19: me maybe about the college football playoff games, and you
Speaker 19: know all of them really were routes. I'm sure up
Speaker 19: in Columbus the monkey is off the back of right
Speaker 19: now Ryan Dave where everybody was, you know, saying that
Speaker 19: he was going to be be fired, that he didn't
Speaker 19: win this game.
Speaker 4: Ryan Day is going nowhere.
Speaker 19: Well, Ryan Day is going to stay at Ohio State.
Speaker 19: I do have a major case of the goo about
Speaker 19: how the game ended the other night with the Xavier,
Speaker 19: with Xavier and Marquette, when that was a deliberate tripping
Speaker 19: foul and the referee was following the play and he
Speaker 19: didn't have the guts to call a foul which would
Speaker 19: have been a two shot foul to force the game
Speaker 19: in the overtime.
Speaker 4: It was blatant.
Speaker 1: It was a blatant tripping penalty, and of course Sean
Speaker 1: Miller doesn't come out and bitch about it, none of
Speaker 1: the players come out and bitch about it. I'm sick
Speaker 1: and tired of the officials screwing Cincinnati teams.
Speaker 19: I mean, we constantly get it it. We get it
Speaker 19: screwed by the and then in the NFL we get
Speaker 19: screwed in college basketball. If you watch that game, that
Speaker 19: guy stuck his foot out and deliberately tripped up that kid.
Speaker 1: Well, Mike Tomlin's still coaching the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's a
Speaker 1: respected coach. And he tripped a player from the other
Speaker 1: team on this when he was running down the sideline.
Speaker 9: You know, yes he did, Yes he did.
Speaker 1: I mean Woody Hayes gets in trouble for one punch,
Speaker 1: and you know, Mike Tomlin is allowed. Mike Tomlin's allowed
Speaker 1: to trip players on the other team when they're racing
Speaker 1: towards a touchdown.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't care. Once once a cheater, all
Speaker 4: was a cheater.
Speaker 1: They are the they are the Pittsburgh cheaters, and they
Speaker 1: will get their come up and they will not win
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl this year.
Speaker 4: I am standing on that ground firmly right now, Mike.
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs just continue to win regardless of the situation.
Speaker 1: And they got a twelfth man on the field wearing stripes,
Speaker 1: for God's sake, they got their first holding penalty and
Speaker 1: the whole season.
Speaker 21: Three three pete three peas City Chief's gonna gonna lay
Speaker 21: down when they play their last game, or they're gonna
Speaker 21: go out and you know, give a full effort.
Speaker 1: And let's say the Bengals chances need a live or
Speaker 1: the Chiefs to beat the Broncos. Well, you know, the
Speaker 1: Chiefs is gonna play hard, They're gonna lay down. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs are my team.