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<v Speaker 1>As the Fox thirty one chief meteorologist. We just call

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<v Speaker 1>him Dave. Dave Frasier. It's a dark and gloomy day

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<v Speaker 1>here in the Denver metro. When will the horrible weather break?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's let it go for a little while longer.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm actually enjoying this and it has been beneficial, there's

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<v Speaker 3>no question about that.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, we're going to continue.

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<v Speaker 3>With the showers.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll probably take until later this evening to finally dry up.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a few of them out there on radar still,

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<v Speaker 3>especially at just south of downtown.

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<v Speaker 2>Foothills are still seeing wet weather.

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<v Speaker 3>Northern Front Range has some showers up near Fort Collins,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're seeing a few on the south side down

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<v Speaker 3>towards Castle Rock.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's been it's been exactly what we needed, Maddie.

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<v Speaker 2>I I nobody knows that and was ready for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. I told people earlier that when you come into

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado the first time, they make you sign a document

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<v Speaker 1>that says if you complain about the rain, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to end it by saying, but we need the moisture.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where we are. But we need the moisture,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're getting a lot of snow in the high country.

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<v Speaker 1>How much of an impact will this have because our

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<v Speaker 1>right now, our average snowpack levels are not great.

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<v Speaker 3>They aren't, but you know, we've been talking about that.

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<v Speaker 3>So you basically load the mountains through about April seventh,

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<v Speaker 3>and then after April seventh you start the melting process.

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<v Speaker 3>So any additional snow beyond April seventh is helpful. What

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<v Speaker 3>we're seeing is snowpack numbers that are below where we

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<v Speaker 3>should be for the melting curve, being we've melted it

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<v Speaker 3>off pretty quickly. And I think the reason we've melted

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<v Speaker 3>it off sooner than maybe we should have is because

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<v Speaker 3>March and April were so dry, and we did have

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<v Speaker 3>periods of warm stretches.

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<v Speaker 2>We weren't you know, we weren't.

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<v Speaker 3>Breaking records left and right for high temperatures, but we

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<v Speaker 3>did have above normal temperatures with sunny days and that

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<v Speaker 3>went into getting the melting process starting sooner. And so

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<v Speaker 3>your bell curve, if you will, for where we should

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<v Speaker 3>be in the melting process is definitely lower than where

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<v Speaker 3>we should because we've melted owner.

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<v Speaker 2>So this moisture certainly will help a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Does it push the.

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<v Speaker 2>Snow melt pack back up one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably not, but consider it a cherry on top if

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<v Speaker 3>you will. It's a bonus and it's been melting. Fortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>there have not been a lot of travel problems, even

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<v Speaker 3>though advisories were issued in the mountains. Most of the

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<v Speaker 3>issues were leigh up high past nine thousand feet. We

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<v Speaker 3>were in the mountains last night with our pimploy weather

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<v Speaker 3>bees and the roads were just basically wet. So it

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of a win win, right, You're getting the moisture.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting the snow.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's still skiing.

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<v Speaker 2>Available in the mountains.

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<v Speaker 3>This will you know, go to that people running up,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe late this week to do a couple

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<v Speaker 3>more turns. But I think this storm has been exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what we needed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me ask you about snow melt in general,

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<v Speaker 1>because I still don't quite understand what conditions exist to

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<v Speaker 1>create the flash flood scenes that we've seen, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in the last decade on occasion, not very often. So

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<v Speaker 1>if we've already had some melt, is that for river

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<v Speaker 1>conditions for rafting and things like that, or are we

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<v Speaker 1>taking too soon?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of asking what is the perfect melt cycle?

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<v Speaker 1>What does that look like? Compared to where we are now.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the worst case scenario for rivers and streams

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<v Speaker 3>and the mountains to come up would be a heavy

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<v Speaker 3>kind of warm rain on top of the snow. So

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<v Speaker 3>you've got the heavy water equivalent of the rain and

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<v Speaker 3>you're melting the snow at the same time, and that

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<v Speaker 3>would increase stream flow. Generally, if we get a really

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<v Speaker 3>big spike, you can get a lot of melting and

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<v Speaker 3>streams and rivers will come up very quickly. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>there's still though, even though we're below where we should

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<v Speaker 3>be for the path. I think even you know, just

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<v Speaker 3>a layman can look at the mountains and know there's

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<v Speaker 3>still a lot of snow up there in the right,

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<v Speaker 3>so we can melt it away.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean, you don't want to put the

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want to take a magnifying glass in the

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<v Speaker 3>sun and point it at the Colorado Mountains and melt

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<v Speaker 3>everything off at once. That would be that would be

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<v Speaker 3>horrible and you would have problems and stuff. And obviously

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<v Speaker 3>the bigger concerns are the streams and the creeks and

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<v Speaker 3>the rivers that run through you know, narrow narrow corridors,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, where the water can't really fan out.

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<v Speaker 3>It has to go up because of the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the steep terrain around it, So.

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<v Speaker 2>You know those I think the worst.

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<v Speaker 3>Case scenario would be a heavy rain event on top

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<v Speaker 3>of melting snow.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I got a question from a texture or are

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<v Speaker 1>they texted the Commons Burial of checks line at five

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six nine? Oh hey, Mandy, I live on top

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<v Speaker 1>of Monument Hill, which I always consider to be the

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<v Speaker 1>Palmer Divide. What does Dave consider to be the Palmer Divide?

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<v Speaker 2>The Palmer Divide is? I consider it Monument Hill as well.

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<v Speaker 2>They actually call it the Black Forest Divide.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people do down there, so if you know where

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<v Speaker 3>black Forest is, they kind of call it basically Monument

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<v Speaker 3>Hill is the peak.

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<v Speaker 2>It's marked right on the highway.

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<v Speaker 3>The elevation, I believe it's seventy three fifty three and

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<v Speaker 3>it's highest point there.

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<v Speaker 2>So for me, when I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the Palmer.

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<v Speaker 2>Divide, there is a rise in elevation.

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<v Speaker 3>If you look at a three dimensional map of Colorado,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll see this little terrain feature that we call the

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<v Speaker 3>Palmer Divide that comes east west from the foothills and.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of rises up.

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<v Speaker 3>So the spine of it would be Monument Hill, and

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<v Speaker 3>then it stands all the way out to the Lineman

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<v Speaker 3>on the eastern plains. And so you have a rise

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<v Speaker 3>in elevation that starts as you depart Denver, certainly as

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<v Speaker 3>you start to go over Surrey Ridge, so you're passing

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<v Speaker 3>Lincoln Avenue, you're climbing up to the Castle Pines Parkway exit.

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<v Speaker 3>You dip a little bit into Castle Rock, but even

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<v Speaker 3>there you're up in elevation. And then as you turn

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<v Speaker 3>the corner and head towards the larksbur and Greenland, you

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<v Speaker 3>start to make that next line as you pass County

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<v Speaker 3>Line Road and go from Douglas County and continue.

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<v Speaker 2>South, and then you hit the big up.

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<v Speaker 3>All of that is arise and it goes off to

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<v Speaker 3>the east and it kind of stands away. So instead

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<v Speaker 3>of being a north south oriented foothills Hogback mountains, you've

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<v Speaker 3>got this east west feature that is also a rides

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<v Speaker 3>and elevation kind of like a mini mountain, if you will,

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<v Speaker 3>and the top of that is Monument Hill. There we go.

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<v Speaker 1>That is an excellent answer to that question, very thorough.

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<v Speaker 1>I have another question when we're like we are right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and you could I mean ifeasibly, there are definitely. We

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<v Speaker 1>just got a text earlier from someone in Woodland Park

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<v Speaker 1>who said it's snowing like the dickens down there. When

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<v Speaker 1>you're in that range where you could easily switch from

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<v Speaker 1>snow to rain. This is, as I'm about to ask

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<v Speaker 1>this question, I realize how stupid it is. You're still

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the same amount of moisture though, right if

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<v Speaker 1>it's snow, if it's rain, it's the same water. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just temperature that has changed things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so let me I'll just answer this business.

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<v Speaker 3>It literally can be a few feet different. You can

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<v Speaker 3>literally drive along a rise in elevation and watch the

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<v Speaker 3>snow line come in your direction where it's grass, and

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<v Speaker 3>then all of a sudden, a couple of feet away

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<v Speaker 3>at snow, and then as it goes up in elevation,

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<v Speaker 3>the snow is there. We call it a QPS, a

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<v Speaker 3>quantitative precipitation. Forecat, we're dealing with liquid all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>The question becomes when you're factoring your snow. As you

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<v Speaker 3>take that liquid, you've heard this before, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>have to extrapolate it out to if a tenth of

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<v Speaker 3>an inch was to become snow, how much snow could

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<v Speaker 3>it become. And generally you do a ten to one ratio.

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<v Speaker 3>If it's cold, it could be a twenty to one ratio.

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<v Speaker 3>So the liquid amount is what we're always dealing with

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<v Speaker 3>where it's the toughest part in any of a forecast.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, QPF forecast the liquid amount. Here's the difference.

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<v Speaker 3>If you miss the forecast by let's say a tenth

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<v Speaker 3>of an inch on a rainy day, you're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to know it unless you go out and shut your

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<v Speaker 3>rain gage because it's just going to run down the street.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you miss that.

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<v Speaker 3>Tenth of an inch forecast, and that can be another

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<v Speaker 3>inch or ten inches of snow.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big because you go outside and.

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<v Speaker 3>You're expecting four inches and you're shoveling a foot. So

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<v Speaker 3>we're dealing with the same tough forecast. It's just a

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<v Speaker 3>matter of is it running down and soaking in or

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<v Speaker 3>is it stacking up?

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<v Speaker 2>And I got to shovel. It doesn't matter rain or snow.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a QPF liquid forecast.

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<v Speaker 1>As I saw Chad, now we're leaving yesterday and I

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<v Speaker 1>said it's a gloomy day chat and he said, better

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<v Speaker 1>this than snow. And he was absolutely right. Fox News,

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<v Speaker 1>You've now Fox News, Fox thirty one chief meteorologist Dave

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<v Speaker 1>Frasier joys always. We'll talk to you again next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthwley, I'm off next week, but I'll talk to New

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<v Speaker 2>week after.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you have a lovely vacation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's my vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to go get a kid out of college

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<v Speaker 2>who's graduating. It's a big yay. Hey, let's get her done.

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<v Speaker 3>Exact about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You almost got that one off the payroll that has

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<v Speaker 1>caused for celebration no matter how you look at it.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, Dave, have a great time. We'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you in a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Alight.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, That my friends is Dave Fraser will be

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<v Speaker 1>right back.
