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Speaker 4: Welcome back here now re number three of ot B.
Speaker 5: Jake Flynn, Alandra Tata here with you four another hour.
We got Devin Snow joining us in about fifteen minutes
from now. We're gonna keep the good vibes going. We're
gonna talk about some of the other big wins, some
weekend winners, maybe even some more losers. Here as we
lead into dev I do want to give a shout
out to Vandy. Vandy wins seventy to twenty one over
Georgia State. Why does that matter? Georgia State beat Vanderbilt
last year. This is Vanderbilt showing that, hey, you know what,
we can actually go and take care of business now
because last year they were good, but now they're doing
things they are supposed to do. Or last year is
like they would have a game like that and then
they go beat Alabama, then they have a bad game,
then they go almost beat Texas, So big win for
Clark Lee and Vandy, and that game looks completely different
for your LSU Tigers here coming up in a couple weeks.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we were just talking about it, like, looking at
LSU's schedule for the rest of the season, who do
we think, Like the biggest hurdle is who do we
think the best team as of right now? Where are
we sitting in this chair today, Who do we think
the best team that LSU is going to face the
rest of the season. I know, you know, we have
the benefit of not having to think of like one
week at a time. We can think of the whole thing.
We don't have to go one to know this week.
We can think of every single game. So, like, what
do y'all think?
Speaker 7: Yeah, last game of the year, that was was kind
of the Oklahoma.
Speaker 6: I think after this past weekend, I'm not as high
on Oklahoma. Maybe they just maybe they just played a
little bit of a stinker of a game, but they gotta,
they gotta.
Speaker 7: It was just it wasn't very Yeah is way better
than yeah.
Speaker 8: To be fair, I didn't watch that game, so I
don't know what they looked like. Against Auburn. I do
know that they won, but I don't know how resounding
of a win it was or anything like that. And
like you said, Auburn does look better than all of
us thought they were gonna look.
Speaker 7: But Oklahoma is just so physical. They are really good.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they're playing really weird on both sides.
Speaker 9: Fall Yeah, you watched that game, right, Matt. Yeah, I
kind of thought Auburn should have won that game at times,
like I thought should.
Speaker 7: Which was all.
Speaker 5: Player, Well, the fake player going to the sidelines, which
is which is.
Speaker 9: Illegal to that gave Oklahoma a touchdown. Then the obvious
catch fumble. I thought it was obvious they returned that
for a touchdown, gets overturned.
Speaker 7: Oklahoma goes and kicks a field goal in that drive.
Speaker 9: So that's ten points for Oklahoma. You took away seven
for our Auburn. Like I kind of thought Auburn should
have won the game.
Speaker 6: Auburn should have won the game. I mean it could have.
It could have gone either way, but those were two
blown calls. Yes, like the trick play, you can't do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, obvious to the office.
Speaker 5: Which almost makes me more man when somebody comes back. So, yeah,
we screwed that up. Okay, what can we do about it?
Speaker 7: Nothing? Gotcha got it?
Speaker 5: And they came out they're like, yeah, this should not
have been allowed, right, how about you just I don't
know we had this technology, Like, hey, guys, you can't
do that, so throw a flag.
Speaker 6: Right if you could clear an obvious situation like that
on a on a like you can I know, you
can't review palnds you don't want. You don't want get
a situation where or you're reviewing past interference like the
NFL try to do and reviewing different things like that.
Speaker 7: But like on a.
Speaker 6: Clear break of a rule, yeah, procedural thing, have an
illegal play, Yeah, there should be something that's like a
clear and obvious something like that. And then the fumble,
I give it was so clear and obvious that it
was a fumble. I think most most times head coaches
are pretty mum during the game. They did a live
interview a few freeze during the game. He's like, yeah,
that was clearly a fumble that should have been a
touchdown for us. Usually the coaches are going to like
downplay it a little bit, but yeah, and the catch
that wasn't really a catch.
Speaker 5: If if Breyon Brown's catch against Clemson's not a catch.
Speaker 4: That's sure as hell.
Speaker 9: Was not a cat right, Well, and then okay, you
were saying, like, that's a clear fumble. I agree, Why
was Bower sharp taking one step against Clemson rule of fumble?
This guy here takes three and cuts upfield and it's
not a fumble.
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. That's such a judgment.
Speaker 6: That's the It is a judgementcallin it shouldn't be like
if you take why is one step and a strip
of fumble and two steps and then a drop?
Speaker 7: A drop?
Speaker 6: I don't know, but anyway, I think we got to
that by saying Oklahoma's pretty Yeah. I think they looked
a little flappable. John Mattier didn't look I mean, he
looked fine, looked good, but he didn't look like the
guy that can destroy somebody single handedly.
Speaker 4: So like, that's the question I'm starting to ask myself.
Speaker 5: I'm looking at that hurt that hurts you, that hurts
you there and the most sort you got on too.
Speaker 4: There was nothing to protect him.
Speaker 7: Well, see, I got your old chair over here.
Speaker 4: Oh they upgraded me and gave you the ald chair.
Speaker 8: Yeah, how much of a big deal a chair is here?
Speaker 4: In this building.
Speaker 8: That has been an issue for years, and I do
not understand it.
Speaker 7: It has been he got a new one over there.
Speaker 6: There was a new one here last week with like
a little arm thing, which was pretty good, pretty decent.
Speaker 8: Michelle bought three different chairs for everybody to try out
to see which one they liked best.
Speaker 7: How's that one?
Speaker 4: It's pretty good.
Speaker 7: That's the one that was go down.
Speaker 4: It's pretty good.
Speaker 7: Does it go down?
Speaker 5: Not too bad? Not too bad. But I can't say
it for three hours. I got to stand up every
once in a while.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I really honestly think we should just make every
host stand for three hours.
Speaker 7: No one couldn't do it be a good exercise.
Speaker 4: Do you think? I mean you just sat down for
the first time.
Speaker 8: I would be down to stand. If I could like
not be hunched over the entire time here, this could
lift up a little more so true.
Speaker 5: So guess going back to the exercise, Well, the question
that we were asking was like of the like for
me at least, like of the quarterbacks that you face
off against, like which one do we think?
Speaker 3: Maybe?
Speaker 5: Well yeah for me, but I wanted to look at
it from that aspect of it. Okay, which one do
you think could face LSU's defense and get his team
in the right play and continue to make plays because
you're kind of playing a lot of dual threat quarterbacks
coming up. Really, I mean, until you get to Alabama,
you're facing some dull threat guys. Okay, so is Alabama
going in with Tys Simpson. He's looked really good, been
highly efficient. Is that the guy that maybe you change
up a little bit of your game plan because then
you go right back into dual threat against Arkansas and Oklahoma.
Like I'm talking about like true dull threat guys that
can do it multiple ways. Now, those guys aren't the same, right,
I mean, like Texas A and M is going to
have different Q runs than Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt will have some
like design Q runs, but really they're running game from
Diego Pavia comes from improvising and a play breaking down.
Speaker 4: So it's it's a little bit different there.
Speaker 5: But I actually think lashu's defense right now has shown
that they can play well against dual threat quarterbacks.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're trying to I'm trying to look through the
schedule and you know we're about to get into the meet.
We got all miss South Carolina, Vanderbilt, Texas A named Alabama.
So like you're you're about to go to this slew
of really good quarterback play. I think, from top to bottom,
the the best team that we're going to face that
I've seen so far, that I've watched so far is
Texas A and M. Right now, there said a nine,
but that we do get to benefit of them come
into our house. Now, Marcel Rey's has to prove to
me that he's still grown as a pocket passer enough,
because the confusion that LSU and Blake Baker is going
to create for him might give him some serious issues.
Now he can create with his legs, but with this defense,
the way we fly around, how are you using harr
Perkins in that beautiful star mindset. I'm not like that
worried about that aspect A and M might have a
problem when they come into Death Valley because of that confusion.
Speaker 7: How far has Marcel come?
Speaker 6: Like, I know, he's playing really well, and he made
some big plays and he made the plays with his
arm to beat a good Notre Dame football team.
Speaker 5: So he's only completing fifty eight percent of his passes,
which now in college football it's really love We.
Speaker 6: Think that like LSU's unless you are a very seasoned
pocket passer that understands how to read sideline to sideline,
understands the weakness and strengths of defenses and what they're
trying to do and how, and you have receivers that
have a high football IQ. LSU's defense is gonna put
your head in a blender. Yeah, they're just gonna But
then they make themselves vulnerable, but too like they understand
their their vulnerabilities. They get that, and they're okay with
that because they're saying, I can create chaos with guys
that are flying around and given one hundred percent effort
and trying to bite kneecaps to get to the quarterback,
and I understand that somebody might be open for a
split second at least, and I think I can get
to your guy create that. So for the majority time,
he might get lucky every now and then, but for
the majority of the time, we're gonna get you before
you get us.
Speaker 7: What about this coming weekend?
Speaker 9: Like Trinidad, Shambliss has looked a lot better than Austin
Simmons in my opinion, Hey, yes, have a ton of
film on I mean got about a game and a half.
Speaker 4: I mean you got you got a lot of film
just not ill miss him.
Speaker 5: He played at like he played like a ton of
football Division two. But like it's pretty impressive of like
what he's been able to do. And then I mean,
you gotta go back and you got to watch some
of that.
Speaker 9: You got Kaden Lee Harrison Wallace has stepped up, Like
Kawan Lacy's a pretty good running back, like it might
be this weekend went on the road, first road sec.
Speaker 5: I mean, look, this weekend counts. Sure what we're talking about?
Mm hmm, Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's one of the better play callers in the country.
Speaker 6: Oh dude, what a great clip of Lane Kiffin this
past weekend.
Speaker 7: Did y'all see it?
Speaker 6: They have the they have the basketball goal. Yeah, and
so they can they slam Duncan they do all that?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 6: The guy's about I don't know if it was a
defender that got an interception. I don't know what like
the rules are for the basketball goal when you get
to dunk it. I don't know if it's every touchdown
or if it's like a turnover chain situation. But he
comes over there, you know parts the Red Sea gets
in between all the guys and calls for the ball
and gives them a bounce off the ground alleyup situation.
Good for him. Wait to be aware, Lane, Wait to
be a player's coach. I think we all like Lane
Kiffin not this week, of course I do. But it
wasn't really. It was a good clip of the head
coach during the middle of the game. Yeah, yeah, no,
going over there understanding that his guy was about to
slam dunk the funk in the game of little Alley.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Look, and and Weiss and Giffing. They're gonna have They're
gonna have a tough assignment. Bla Baker is too though, right,
I mean I think you understand.
Speaker 7: Here we go, Here we go.
Speaker 4: There's the clip and then.
Speaker 6: The little sixty with a helmet on his shoulder pads
underrated athleticism right there.
Speaker 7: Look out for that guy this weekend.
Speaker 4: There's probably a lot of guys. I like how it's like, no, no, no, no,
give me give me the basketball.
Speaker 7: They practiced that. How many fans are in the stands?
Speaker 4: Well they they had already left.
Speaker 5: The Green Wave had already been defeated. Basically at that point.
A very impressive win, though by Old Miss. That's a
good two lane football team that had beaten Northwestern, that
had beaten Duke. Those teams aren't world beaters, but two
lane beat them soundly.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 5: And so it's a nice win by Old Mess. They
come in with a lot of momentum.
Speaker 4: But so do you.
Speaker 5: No matter what Flynn wants to tell you, you got some
momentimum of the weekend from beating Southeastern and hopefully you
can have your full arsenal with West weeks, hopefully coming
back trade As Green, who went through warm ups in
this game and did not play.
Speaker 4: That's a great sign. And I talked about on the
broadcast Matt.
Speaker 5: It's like when you know during in the NFL, like
if you were very very close to coming back.
Speaker 4: But maybe they're like, hey, let's give it one more week.
Speaker 5: They would put you through a simulated game before the game,
like you you still were going to get your work in,
you just weren't ready to maybe go full sixty minutes.
And so that's what they did with trade As Green
this weekend. So all signs point to him being available.
Speaker 6: Yeah, let me tell you when you're when you're injured,
like the week is worse than if you're playing, it's
like all conditioning and it's it's on the treadmill, it's
run and it's doing the arm bicycle. If you have
a lower it's doing stuff. They put you through the ringers.
So it's not a conditioning problem. When you're out for
a couple of weeks or whatever. It is like you're
probably in better shape when you come back. But yeah,
we we were just talking about bring this up briefly.
The you know two lane, I know is very hopeful
going into this game, a good team. The schedule kind
of lined up well. The team that kind of jumped
ahead of you in that whole group of five. Talk
Memphis with a big win against Arkansas, take like the
the bull by the Horns for getting that playoff spot
in the group of five. So I know Memphis of
tu Lane will match up a little bit later in
the season. But that was one of my kind of
my deep dive weekend winners was Memphis.
Speaker 5: Does any athletic program know how to blow a lead
like the Arkansas Razorbacks and lose in dramatic fashion? John Gruden,
come any sport baseball as well? True, Arkansas loves to
blow a lead and lose in a bad way. They
really do. It's just it is. It is something that
is almost an absolute.
Speaker 7: Good for them though at least they're good enough to
take leads. Not bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that means nothing.
Speaker 6: I think the Saints would take a blown lead every
now and them.
Speaker 7: What fair enough?
Speaker 5: All right, let's go ahead and take a break, and
when we come back, our guy Devin snow aka hold
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So we had to push DEAF back about ten fifteen
minutes because we now know the permanent opponent for each
SEC team. And this was by Chris Low, who moved
from ESPN to ON three. So typically if Celo has
something in the SEC, it's in absolute and we were
going to maybe find out tomorrow. The SEC has got
the big reveal show, but Chris Low, again, on top
of everything, SEC has leaked the opponents for every team
and so for your LSU Tigers, Arkansas, Ole, miss In
Texas A and m Yeah, thank you, Landra, well done.
There might be some people that are excited by this.
There might be some people that are like, oh my gosh,
thank goodness, we don't have Team A, B or C.
That's not going to be my stance. I don't think
it's going to be Matt stance either. I hate that
you're not going to play Florida every year. You've played
them every year since nineteen seventy one. It's really become
a rivalry that when you go into Tiger Stadium and
that team is in Tiger Stadium, I see more excitement
from LSU fans. I see more hatred towards your opponent
from LSU fans during that game. I wish you had
some other teams. I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm
really surprised that the SEC is not going to have
the cash cow that is Alabama and LSU every single year.
Now with the schedule rotation, you'll see these teams more often.
It's not going to be like a decade before, actually
a decade plus between trips like to Lexington. For LSU,
for instance, it was what two thousand and seven, and
you didn't plan them to get into what twenty twenty
one in Lexington, right, So there's not going to be
that gap anymore, which I do like that part of it.
Speaker 4: But Arkansas ole Miss in Texas.
Speaker 5: A and M the three permanent opponents, and they are
going to remember, in this new nineteen league schedule, each
school will have three annual opponents that will be reevaluated
every four years, and six rotational opponents, meaning each school
will play every other SEC school at least once every
two years, and every opponent home and away in a
four year span. And remember Herb Benson joined us when
this broke that that's how they were going to do it,
the reevaluation process, but at least for the next four years,
starting next year, for LSU, it's Arkansas, it's Ole Miss,
and it's Texas A and M.
Speaker 6: I read I was reading that when we passed the
link to ourselves here over the break. I read it,
and I immediately my blood started boiling.
Speaker 3: I what a.
Speaker 6: Letdown of a every year opponent, because whether they are
or not, the team that you play every single year
becomes a rival, whether it is a traditional rival, whatever
it is, Golden boot whatever. Nobody cares about that ever
except for Arkansas, and I get it. There's gonna be
more SEC games, so you are going to play more
teams every single year, so you might play a couple
more times. You still might play Florida a little bit,
you still might play Alabama a little bit.
Speaker 7: I'm sure we will. But how dare you take away.
Speaker 6: LSU Florida game, who's been a common opponent every single years,
one of the most beautiful weeks of the year during
the season because we hate each other. It's a beautiful rivalry.
It's a game that brings juice to the fan base,
both fan bases. It brings juice to college football. It's
something that's a great lead up. And how dare you
take the LSU Alabama game away for the same reasons? Now,
I don't think there's as much quite as much hatred.
Are you talking about a money bell cow for both cities?
For the SEC for college football? Like, I get it,
you had to make a decision on three and you
want to do things like try to make everything as
equal as possible and geographically wise and all these different things.
But you can't take both of those games away. If
you're going to take one leave the other, you can't
take both them. Okay, I get old missed traditional rival.
I get maybe an argument for A and M from
a geographical standpoint, and they've played for a long time,
and blah blah blah, Arkansas nobody there. Please don't let
every one LSU fan is happy about that one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Arkansas fans are probably happy, but for LSU fans, like,
does Arkansas do anything for anybody? And I'm not trying
to be disrespectful to the Hogs, That's just what it is.
Speaker 6: I just don't see how an LSU think and look
at that and be excited about it.
Speaker 4: Daniel Bashlam said, first Saints talking out this, Oh, I'm
with you guy.
Speaker 5: We were trying like we're doing a good job keeping
the vibes up and then this breaks.
Speaker 10: No.
Speaker 5: I mean, and again I realize that there's some people.
There's gonna be people that do shows here in this
studio that are the champion this and they're gonna be exciting.
Speaker 4: That's that they can have that opinion.
Speaker 7: That's great.
Speaker 5: But we talked about this whenever the news broke that
this was going to change. It's like, okay, yeah, but
like these games don't create any emotion, Like I mean,
old miss traditional rival Shore like A and m NL.
She's been forced upon on us as much as anything
that the league's done over.
Speaker 4: The last decade plus. Uh And again just the Arkansas.
Speaker 5: It means a lot to them, But does it mean
a lot to any LSU fan?
Speaker 7: No, I don't think it does.
Speaker 5: Now, maybe my mead heead brain when I said Florida,
Auburn and Alabama. Maybe that's not Maybe that doesn't work, okay,
but that creates way more emotion for me than it
does for any of these three games.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it and not trying to like get on a soapbox.
And like you know, when we did that before a
couple of weeks ago, when this whole you know, three
common opponents, like we talked just like you said, we
want the best. We want the biggest, the baddest, the best,
the thing that brings a juice to the fan base
that think that pumps the players up. The reason why
you come and sign on the dotted line as a
recruit out of high school or recruit coming from California
at some other school that wants to come play these
like the big games are what you come for. And
I'm not saying the big games are going to be eliminated,
but when you talk about your common three opponents every
single year, you are, by the scheduling creating rivalries. So
why try to build something like Arkansas. Okay, if you
want to put Arkansas in there, because you've got to
even everybody out. You don't want LSU to have three
top dogs, fine, make room for Alabama or Florida somewhere
in that list. Throw the fan base some sort of bone. Yeah, Okay,
Ole Miss is arrival going back into the fifties or
whenever it goes back to. I don't know, but the
game doesn't bring as much juice like the game last
year was electric, But I'm talking about just the build
up to everything. Yeah, it's not the same. So to be,
how dare you take Florida away from us? So I
don't think I'll ever forgive them for that, And I
guess there is a caveat Well, don't be two pissed
because in four years, we're going to reevaluate. What are
you going to reevaluate? You just evaluate. You're going to
reevaluate based on who's good at the time. Is that
why Tennessee got Vanderbilt.
Speaker 7: Who they get?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Alabama.
Speaker 7: Yeah they got Kentucky and Vanderbilt. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Four years is Vanderbilt going to be back to where
they were? And that's their reevaluation process.
Speaker 7: I don't know, so.
Speaker 5: Real quick here, we'll go over it, and you know,
throughout obviously next couple days we'll talk about it. But
for Alabama, it's Auburn, Tennessee and Mississippi State. For Arkansas,
it's Missouri, Texas and LSU. For Auburn, it's Georgia, Alabama
and Vanderbilt, oh I can't have that Vanderbilt Auburn game
go away. For Florida, it's Georgia, South Carolina and Kentucky.
For Georgia, it is Auburn, Florida, South Carolina. For Kentucky,
it's South Carolina, Tennessee and Florida for LSU, Arkansas, Old Miss,
Texas A and M. For Mississippi State, it's Old Miss,
Alabama and Vanderbilt. For Missouri, it's Arkansas, Texas A, and
M Oklahoma. For Oklahoma, it's Texas, Old Miss Missouri. For
Old Miss, it's Mississippi State, LSU and Oklahoma for South Carolina, Georgia,
Kentucky and Florida for Tennessee, Alabama, Vanderbilt, Kentucky for Texas,
Texas A and M Arkansas and Oklahoma. For Texas A
and M Texas LSU and Missouri for Vanderbilt, Tennessee, Mississippi
State and Auburn. That is your three permanent opponents for
the next four seasons starting next season.
Speaker 4: Alabama, Mississippi State. Yeah, I can't go with them that one.
Speaker 5: All right, let's put us in a bad mood. We've
done everything we could. Bring the vibes up.
Speaker 4: It's okay. Let's see you.
Speaker 6: Don't even like pissed about like the st stuff or anything.
I'm pissed about this. Yeah, not very happy.
Speaker 5: Let's see if Dev can help us out when we
come back. Our guy, Devin Snow aka Holding Mail, will
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Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 4: Welcome back in ot B.
Speaker 5: It is now time for our guy, Devin Snow aka
hold the Mayo. I don't even want to know the
phone calls that this man received his spread quarters yesterday.
Speaker 4: Dev what's going on? Brother? How we doing? How we living?
Speaker 10: At least were alive, you know, It's like when your
parents got you growing up. You know, life, life's gonna
be aality check, you know, and you kind of just
stay hopeful that you know that it won't be tough.
And then you see it and it's like Bell's taxes,
gotta buy a new washing machine, my cholesterol high, you know,
all this dumb stuff. And you know when they had
the Saints ranked dead last going into the season, it
was like, what plus four thousand or whatever to make
the playoff worst team the division, worst team in the conference.
And I'm just sitting there. I kept thinking, I'm like, maybe.
Speaker 4: They could just be wrong, you know, yeah, maybe or
maybe not.
Speaker 10: Yeah. Then you're Owen too and you're playing in Seattle
the homeless Starbucks, and you see the team go up
twenty eight thirty five points fast and a barista could
make an expresso machiado. It was it was the pain
that everybody predicted. Yeah, you know, and it's just you
hate to see it, but that's how you want to
see it play out in real time in front of TV.
Is nothing of breathtaking. Yesterday was breathing. And I ain't
talking about like, yeah, we had chimes and I just
saw a ten walk through. You know it's not right. No,
this was like give me all your breath and go
make some new breath, find some new breath. We're gonna
take your breath, put it in a bag, and you're
gonna watch this whooping and deal with and the Saints.
Saints checked a big bag of I don't know reality
onto the plane going home or a buffalo or whatever
they going. They either go to Montana or sit on
a mountain, and just you know, think about how embarrassing
that was to players, fans, coaches, the Gulf Coast. It
was absolutely embarrassing.
Speaker 6: I think that's why it's it was so embarrassing and
bad because at least we all knew the limitations. But
at least the first two weeks you could look at
and be like, all right, not bad, we were in it.
They made some mistakes, but the way they came out
on this game, I guess you kind of answered it.
But my question for you was like, as a Saints fan,
would you rather lose like gonna blowout like this or
lose like a heartbreaking, close, close game.
Speaker 10: Well, I mean, all you got to do is look
at how people were feeling the first two weeks after
losing and there was still losses, but you know, people
were somewhat optimistic. They you know, you got the people
even like on the big TV talking about it is
watch out these Saints. They're going to be scrappy. You know.
The only thing scrappy about the Saints yesterday was that
they didn't want no problems. Little scrappy. That was about it.
They didn't want nothing to do with that game.
Speaker 5: You're right about the first two weeks to have It's like, okay,
you lost the game, but we could point to individual
plays that get you maybe a win in those games,
and you were efficient and you didn't You didn't do
a lot of things to like lose a game, right,
you just didn't make the play to go win again,
which is still troublesome, but it's not the same situation
that we saw in Seattle yesterday. I mean, you got
punched in the face and you never got back up
off the mat and you allowed a ninety five yard
punp return touchdown, Like that should be impossible, Like he
shouldn't even catch that, but like he said after the game,
like he's got the green light to be able to
go and make that play, and he certainly did, and
then you get a punt blocked and it's just man,
it never got in in sync and you never really
allowed it to because when you get down like that,
like offensively, then you just have to go two minute
offense the entire game. And the thing, for me, the
biggest thing is when you got punched, you never really
got back up.
Speaker 10: Yeah, And I'm sitting there thinking, I'm like, dude, how
did you go down twenty one? Not in the first
nine minutes? Well, I could tell you how six. I
don't know what a record is for penalties in amount
of minutes or nothing like that, dude, six penalties in
the first nine minute six Yeah, it's like, dude, I
mean so many penalties, Like beginning a fourth quarter they
had eleven. You know it was the the Brian Bridge
personal file and third in the head butt, right, yep.
You have to know whether they hey, they call this
on everybody or they don't. Whatever. You gotta know that
we already got a problem with penalties. Just don't do
the headbut don't twist, don't twist some dudes, nipple not,
don't don't do none of them, right because they're gonna
call it. And what happens the next play the Seahawks school.
Speaker 8: Mm hmm.
Speaker 6: The mistakes that they're making to me are so or
at least the mistakes they made yesterday so elementary. You're
talking about that formations, you to pre snap penalties. At
some point you got to get past like the preseason
game mentality and clean up the bs and from. These
guys are professional football players, so they don't they shouldn't
need motivation from coaches other players, But at some point
on any team sport, like, somebody's got to step up
and say enough is enough. And we were trying to
talk earlier in the show, like I don't know if
that's any of the offensive coach's personality, but somebody has
got to step up and be an a hole right
and say enough is enough. But we're trying to figure
out who's got that personality. I think Rattler has it
a little bit. I just don't know if he's got
the notches on his belt to be able to do that.
So who do you think is there anybody out there
that can step up?
Speaker 10: Yeah? I don't think that there's veteranstead of stepping up
and showing fire. I mean, I'm just going off of yesterday, right,
I mean what veterans stepped up and showed the fire,
so you know, none of them? I mean what, I
don't mean to call it. What did Cam Jordan do you?
I mean, dude, it was over in nine minutes? It
was over? And En Mess, what can you do? You know? Who?
Who in the NFL? I've never played in the NFL, right,
but like who in the NFL would start to the
game that be over in nine minutes?
Speaker 11: I mean, well you allowed it to be over nine
minutes to be fair, right, I mean, like you think
about like the way a game plays out.
Speaker 4: And I've been in this situation, Matt's been in it.
Speaker 5: I mean, it doesn't matter what level of football you've
played in, You've been in this situation. Like Alvin Kamara,
like in that first series you have and Spencer Ratler
like avoids the rush and throws it down there and
AK kind of got stuck and do I you know,
is the ball going to get here? Do I turn
and run? Do I backpedal? Which you should never do?
But he does he back pedals and the ball hits
the ground. Like It's like, okay, well what if you
complete that pass? Well then you're gonna score points, right,
You're gonna be in the red zone. You're gonna have
a great opportunity. And then like one play like that.
For this Saints team, they do not have room for error.
So when you miss a play like that and it
spirals on you right now, you can't stop the bleeding.
You're not good enough to stop the bleeding. And unfortunately
that's just where the Saints are.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and then it's just the corners, you know, bad dude.
There was one play the rookie y way he went
to Colorado, I think, okay, yeah, yeah, And so he
was running down the field three three players on him.
Not one of the guys jumps does anything, does anything
at all other than just let him catch the ball
with three guys on I'm just like, dude, this is crazy,
Like like what did you see in kool aid mechanistry
at Alabama? Because I mean, we all remember this guy.
What did you see to signal that this guy is
a lockdown corner?
Speaker 4: I didn't see it out I mean, like crystal light yesterday.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think I don't know. There's so many avenues
you could bring up with the Saints have went wrong.
The draft. One of them. You're not drug keep passing
on Like, dude, I watched this guy at BOOKA for
Tampa Day. Yeah the ninety Yeah. Yeah, you think we
couldn't use.
Speaker 7: It's so good.
Speaker 10: Oh, dude, it's just so many.
Speaker 7: It's just.
Speaker 6: A positive note though. We got the bills this week. Yeah,
sixteen and a half point dog? Yeah, are you pretty
excited about that?
Speaker 7: Hook? And do you think sixteen and a half is
too high or too low?
Speaker 10: Too low? I figured it'd be twenty seven. You know,
what are the things doing right now? They're coming back
home and then going to Buffalo, Like, dude, just don't
even come back home, go straight to Buffalo and adapt.
You know, these are the type of games too. Man.
It's just like I know, it's the NFL. I til
you never know, I guess, But man, you gotta know
what's about to happen here, dude. It's about to be
a throttling man like Seattle kind of took it easy
in the second half, right, I mean you saw mill
Row in the game and stuff, you know, but this
is about to get real real ugly. Man. And when
do y'all think that the Saints could win the game?
I mean you're about to play Buffalo. You know, maybe
somehow you could pull out a win against the Giants.
I don't know. I mean, I'll watched that game last night.
Russell Wilson. He must have been in Pensacola, because that
guy was throwing. He threw the ball to the tunnel,
the cotton candy man and the field goal posts when
they had a chance to actually, you know, maybe score
may a stop and then potentially win the game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's gonna be an ass off when the Saints
and Giants play each other.
Speaker 10: So I don't know, man, I don't know when the
Saints are gonna win. I don't think it really matters
at this point. I think we can finally see you know,
you hear about it and then you finally get to
see it, and it's like, okay, well we definitely see
where we're at. For sure the.
Speaker 6: Elementary stakes, if they clean it up, it'll be look
a little bit more like the first two weeks. We're like,
all right, we didn't win, but like, at least it
looked respectable. Not having eleven penalties in a game. It's
not getting punts blocked in ninety five yard pub returns.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you remember Sean Payton's You know, in the beginning
of most of the seasons with Sean Payton, the penalties
were an issue the first couple of games, right, and
then they would they would clean them up. I don't know, man,
I just I don't know when these guys are going
to clean up these penalties, you know what I'm saying.
And like Jay said, you don't have the fortune to
be able to like win with this stuff. Yeah, these
things cannot be that. You know. If anything, you could
be mid and be disciplined, right, and you might have
a chance. But you can't be mid and undisciplined.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 5: Dev Sorry, we had to bring you down here on
this Monday, man. At least maybe you have some RV
and R situation planned out, or maybe you find your
way and we know you're not big into planning, and
maybe that helps you out on this Monday. Because the
Saints they're not gonna help us, and I don't think
they're gonna help us all year long. So hopefully on
these Mondays you can find some really good spots maybe
you've never been to for our our being our day.
Speaker 10: Yeah no, I can't wait. By the way, when for
yesterday on the NFL. Dude, I'm sure if I go
try to turn my key on my truck right now,
the battery's dead.
Speaker 5: You know, you probably miss putting the garbage out today too,
like one of those type of days, you know.
Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely, It's just it's just how it is, hey, man.
At least we got the uh, well, at least we
got l Shoe first of all. Yeah, big for them.
And then I guess I could start saying things like,
at least we got the Pelicans to look forward to.
Speaker 5: Let's don't do that just yet. Let's don't do that
just Yeah, we'll have to see. But I mean, they
can't be worse than the Saints.
Speaker 3: Nah, it just.
Speaker 10: Doesn't get worse than us. Man.
Speaker 5: Sorry, dev Well, we appreciate you, and I hope that
you find some good red beans and rice.
Speaker 10: Thank you, appreciate it. Brother, y'all take.
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Speaker 4: Probably not talk about the Saints.
Speaker 5: Probably not talk about the three Pooh opponents that we
just got for Reelshue. And I'm sun about Pooh like
they're bad football teams. I'm just talking about like, no Alabama,
no Florida, no Auburn.
Speaker 6: Vibes are pretty high during weekend winners. That was yeah,
that was fun. Maybe we need to go around the
country a little bit more.
Speaker 9: We talk about the Falcons losing thirty to nothing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah to the Panthers. Members came in. He's like, Dad,
Panthers are winning. I said, yeah, yeah, he goes, no, No,
they're winning by a lots like. Yeah, it was like,
it can't happen. You put one more of those together.
That's called a winning streak. It has happened before. There's
not a lot to the Panthers.
Speaker 6: My vibes aren't really up there because I'm holding a
lot of pretty good Michael. I got some Bryce. You
got some Bryce, though, I got some Bryce. But he
didn't really do any Actually, he really didn't do A.
Speaker 5: Big card is a price, that's true. So see, I'm
helping you out right now, asked the Vinch. Can you
believe the worst day of the weekest tomorrow?
Speaker 12: I know, no, go now you're going to bring that up.
Those Tuesday you stink Last Tuesday we had better vibes.
Speaker 4: Oh, we did like that Tuesday didn't sun.
Speaker 7: We don't have to talk Saints tomorrow. I know we
had to today. You know.
Speaker 4: Yes, it is hard to be a basketball fan around
here right now. That is is very true for me.
Speaker 8: Spurs go building a dynasty out there?
Speaker 7: Are we talking basketball right now?
Speaker 4: Well, have said the Pelicans and then so like the
Pelicans bad Ls was bad last year.
Speaker 5: We'll see if the Tigers can right the ship. I
have no faith in the Pelicans. Because they're running by
the same people. So I was a Knicks fan for
a long time and let Danny and t Bob talk
me into following the Fells, and it turned out to
be a great decision because now the Knicks are good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, Taylor, do you are you petty when it
comes to your non cowboy fan of now?
Speaker 7: Are you excited that they lost?
Speaker 9: I'm not excited or happy, I mean or sad show
some emotion.
Speaker 7: I'm sad with the franchise has become.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, that's that's exactly kind of the reason
I moved on, Like it's the Chicago Bears and you
got balloon out.
Speaker 6: Usually after a breakup, you want the worst for that
person that you broke up with.
Speaker 7: I don't want the worst for him.
Speaker 9: It's not the player's fault. It's Dack's fault a little,
but it's not the player's fault, Jerry Jones's fault.
Speaker 8: I always pray on the downfall of.
Speaker 7: The who doesn't matter whose fault it is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, me too, win looks better.
Speaker 7: Everybody's petty.
Speaker 4: I was hoping Florida will lose to Long Eyeld.
Speaker 7: Give me some juice here.
Speaker 4: Excited that Tuesday tomorrow, all right
Speaker 2: Off the bench,