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much for your support. Some pretty big developments in the
Russia Gate scandal. And there was a really powerful interview
that I watched. It was on the Megan Kelly Show.
She interviewed Aaron Matte who is an independent journalist and
does some work for Gray Zone. The Gray Zone with
Mike Ben's and he has been he's of the left,
he's like a Bernie Sanders guy, but he he sniffed
out something wrong on the whole Russia Gate thing years ago.
And despite the utter lack of coverage in the legacy
media outlets about the recent developments that we have learned
of because of the declassification of more documents from inside
the intelligence community, you know, the CIA director John Ratcliffe
d and I Tolci gabbered cash Betel that the FBI,
So you have this declassification occurring. Ratcliffe is the CIA director.
So you got these documents that are now being reviewed,
stuff gets redacted that are you know, protected stuff. But
then they're releasing this information and every new declassified document
dump that we're seeing is putting the final pieces together
to illus straight the obvious hoax. This was a scam
that was run starting in the summer even really late
spring of twenty sixteen, in order to smear Donald Trump
as a Russian proxy when he was not, and when
the people that were orchestrating the smear knew this was
not true. The stuff that they were promoting as high
confidence in the Intel speak high confidence was actually not
high confidence. It was low confidence. They were lying about it.
Then they lied about the inclusion of the Steele dossier.
And when you piece this stuff together, it's clear it
goes all the way to the top with Obama's meeting
with his Intel chiefs and stuff and redoing the intelligence
community assessment in order to get the Steele dossier inserted
into the president's daily briefing, which Trump would have had
access to because he had already won the election. But
even before that, even before that, now we learn that
Russia hacked the election. That was also a lie, and
they knew it, but they lied and said that Russia
helped to elect Donald Trump. The lie stems from the
hack and leak operation that was run against the DNC
and Hillary Clinton's campaign. The hack and leak operation. We
were told by the intelligence community that that was Russia,
and then they passed it off to WikiLeaks, DC leaks
and what was the guy, Gucchieffer I think was his
nom de plume, some hacker guy, and they said this
was the Russians. Turns out they didn't have any evidence
of that, so they just lied about it. How did
this happen and how did it stay buried for nine years?
Aaron mate reporting. Oh and by the way, today this
morning one of the annexes, so they call this, I
don't know why they use this term annex It's basically
like an appendage or it's like a source. It's like
a footnote source kind of thing where you've got some
intelligence assessment that's drawn up and then they'll link in
the back of the document the annexes or an annex
where it'll be some other report that they're referring to,
and the Durham annex, John Durham, that was the second
investigation into all of this. Mueller was the first, right,
Robert Mueller was the first, and then John Durham was
the second. And the Durham annex, the Durham report annex
just dropped from Chuck Grassley's office, Senator Chuck Grassley, and
it ties to George Soros's Open Society Foundation. They and
they talk about that the FBI was going to help
them pour oil on the fire. They were working with
the Clinton campaign to spread this opposition hit piece, this
smear job, the Steele dossier, but the entire narrative of that,
you know, Russia helped Trump win. And why why would
they do this to draw attention away from Hillary Clinton's
server scandal, the Homebrew server that she had set up
and was conducting business on that. James Comey came out
and said, all of these things she did wrong and
violations probably got hacked. Yes, yes, yes, but no reasonable
prosecutor would bring a case. They buried all evidence or
all analysis that was contrary to that narrative. And now
with these declassifications, now we know you had the declassification
of the Intelligence Assessments annex. That ICA annex that had
that was the Steele dossier, so that was used. They
claimed it wasn't. John Brennan testified under oath that that
was not used, and that was a lie. He perjured himself.
The next one we had was the Hipsey Report. This
is the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence or House
Intelligence Committee. They put together a report in twenty twenty
and that was suppressed. They classified that thing and you know,
locked it away in a safe so nobody could ever
get at it. And now there's the Durham Annex. It's
now been published. I have not had a chance to
read it. It's dozens of pages long. It just dropped
before the show began. But I do have it pulled up,
so I'll be reading some of it during the breaks.
But actually, yeah, well i'll start right. I'll start here, because.
Speaker 2: Here we go.
Speaker 1: Two of the apparently hacked emails appear to have originated
from the Open Society Foundations. The purported author of these
emails was Leonard Bernardo, who was the Regional director for
Eurasia at the Open Society Foundations. In that capacity, Bernardo
oversaw efforts relating to Russia and the former Soviet republics
and other countries. Beginning in twenty sixteen, the FBI received
information from this confidential source relating to the US presidential election,
including reports written by redacted. These reports referenced purported communications
of Bernardo and others, and in particular, the source provided
the US government with two memos that described confidential conversations
between then Democratic National Committee chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz and
two individuals at the Open Source Foundations, Bernardo and Jeffrey Goldstein.
In that memo, which was written in Russian because it
came from a Russian source, it says on January twelfth
of this year, during a confidential discussion with Jeffrey Goldstein
of the list the title there, Democrat National Committeechairwoman Debbie
Wasserman Schultz characterized the situation in her party in light
of the growing scandals surrounding Hillary Clinton as follows. Information
released to the media in the last few days about
FBI investigating possible relating to Department of State under Clinton
preferential treatment of donors of the Clinton Foundation caused a
significant negative reaction inside the party. At the same time,
the leadership of the Democrat Party had known about the
information since June of twenty fifteen. According to Wasserman Schultz,
FBI so far does not have persuasive evidence against Hillary
Clinton because of the timely deletion of relevant data from
mail servers. Obama has no intention to darken the final
part of his presidency and legacy by the scandal surrounding
the main contender from the Democrat Party. To solve the problem,
the President puts pressure on FBI Director James Colemy through
Attorney General Lynch. However, so far, without concrete results, Comy
gravitates towards Republicans and apparently intends to prolong the investigation
so that the scandal would keep going until the presidential
election to jeopardize chances of the Democrat Party to win
the presidential race. Then, from a memo from Bernardo, Hillary
Clinton approved Julia's idea about Trump and Russian hackers hampering
US elections that should distract people from her own missing email,
especially if the affair goes to the Olympic level. This
point is making the Russian play a US domestic issue,
say something like a critical infrastructure threat for the election
to feel menace. Since both Potus and Vice Potus have
acknowledged the fact that the intelligence community would speed up
searching for evidence that is regrettably still unavailable. However, there
seems to be signs GRU that's the Russian FBI basically penetration.
They appear hardly, they appear hardly skilled, incompetent, bumbling idiots
as somebody called them. In absence of direct evidence, CrowdStrike
and threat Connect will supply the media and GRU will
hopefully carry on to get more facts. What are they
outlining here? What is he out What is Bernardo from
Open Society Foundation? What is he outlining? How to plant
the stories in order to distract away from Hillary Clinton's scandals?
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So here's this is a standard line that I get from,
and this is the the defense of the Democrats. And
this is the same line that you're seeing in media
legacy media outlets as well. So I'll read just some
of these text spam here that is coming in from
probably someone on the left. They don't give their name.
It's a seven oh four number, says Pete. You do
realize today is July thirty one, twenty twenty five, right,
I do. My last name is Calener. I always know
what day it is. Boom but how about focusing on
issues that impact our lives today, or at least declare
that you are an operative for the Trump loyalist party,
which says a lot about you. Well, the fact that
you wrote alot as one word says a lot about you,
Anonymous Texter, I'm not sure how you still have a
show on the air, you and me both. I'm as
baffled by it as you. Okay, you may want to
deny the importance of this story, but let me boil
it down for you. We now have the proof that
the intelligence agencies led a scam, they orchestrated and participated
in a deception of the American public to undermine the
duly elected president of the United States. That should scare
the hell out of you. And the fact that no
media outlet dug anywhere into this story to try to
get the proof that now we have that should scare
the hell out of you too. This isn't about Trump.
This is about the intelligence agencies manufacturing a story. And
if they could do it to Trump, they can do
it to anybody. And if you don't have a media
that investigates this stuff and looks at the claims and says,
where's the evidence for this. We are in dangerous territory.
I would say this if it were a Democrat that
this was done to as well. That's the importance of
the story. And you may want to bury your head
in the sand because Obama's fingerprints are on this, and
God forbid that the Savior have this, his fingerprints on
any kind of a scandal besides wearing a tan suit
like this is a big deal. According to newly declassified documents,
US intelligence leaders concealed high level doubts about one of
Russia gates, foundational allegations that Russia stole and ea Democratic
Party material to help Trump defeat Hillary Clinton. Okay, that's
the key here. They buried it from everybody except those
that were orchestrating the smear. Half of the Democrats in
America still believe that Russia got Trump elected, and it
was never true. Never, it wasn't true. And in fact,
the intelligence community, the FBI specifically knew that the Clinton
campaign was going to do it before they did it,
or before they got to the crossfire hurricane. Rather, they
knew that the Hillary Clinton campaign was running this opposition
smear against Trump in order to distract away from her scandals.
Even with that knowledge, they still opened Crossfire Hurricane and
relied on two things, the Steel dossier, which has been
completely debunked, and the DNC hack. And that was always
the hack, was that one has always sort of been
propped up as you know, that's the proof that Russia
was meddling. And now it turns out that neither the
FBI nor the NSA had confidence in that assessment. Why
because the DNC hired crowd Strike to figure out, you know,
what got compromised and who made the intrusions and all
of that, and they refused to let the FBI investigate
the servers. They just said, here's crowdstrikes report, and we
blame the Russians, and rather than ask for evidence to
support that, the FBI just agreed to it. Why would
they have done that. That's what we have now have
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Megan Kelly Show lays out the new information declassified by
Tulci Gabbard.
Speaker 3: The core allegation at the heart of Russia Gay even
before collusion became a public thing. It was a Russia
hack the DNC and gave the emails to wiki Leaks
that basically broke out in June twenty sixteen, followed by
the release of the Wiki leagues emails in July twenty sixteen,
and at that point, the Clinton campaign, through its contractor CrowdStrike,
was the first entity to say that the Russians did it,
and a lot of people in the media just ran
with it because that's what they were saying. And for
some reason, if you accuse a foreign actor of something,
then we just have to take it on faith. That's
sort of an established playbook going back to the Iraqi
War and many other similar propaganda campaigns. And then the
Intelligence community assessment that you talked about that was leased
in January that formerly endorsed that said with high confidence
Russia hacked the DNC gave the emails to wiki leaks,
and along with collusion, that Russian email hacking allegation was
the core plank of Russia Gate. Now we all know
by another collusion was a complete scam laundered through the
Clan campaign through Christopher. Still nobody even in corporate media
that was all about it, even defends that anymore. Eve
Adam Schiff, I think, has stopped defending the collusion allegation,
even though he was claiming for yours he had seen
secret evidence of it. But as you said, they have
clung to the Russian email hacking allegation. And what we
get now from Tulsea Gabbard's declassification is that in September
of twenty sixteen, less than two months before the election,
the FBI and the NSA, which are the two premier
intelligence agencies that would be able to investigate this hacking
leak allegation, the FBI taking the lead in investigating the
hacking of the DNC, and the NSA is we all know,
like the premier surveillance agency in the world. They can
see anything that comes in and out over cyber warfare.
Speaker 2: So they'd be in the best position to assess whether or.
Speaker 3: Not Russia hacked the DNC and gave the emails to
Wikilix and what they said. And we're only learning this
now nearly nine years later, is that they had low
confidence in the Russia hack and leak allegation that was suppressed.
Instead of the public hearing about that, the Obama administration
put out a report through Clapper, who was then heading
the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and Jay Johnson,
who was heading Department of Hollland Security, on October seventh,
and they said, in the name of the intelligence community,
they have high confidence that Russia was behind the hacking
of the DNC, suppressing what the FBI in the NSA
had said, and that remains the same. After the election,
there was another assessment circulated that we learned about through
Tulsa Gabbard that said the picture of the attribution of
doubting the attribution to Russia had not changed at all.
And the reason was is the FBI and the NSA
said we didn't have the technical evidence for it. And
that was the point that people like myself had been making,
is like, yes, intelligence officials worth telling us Russia did it,
but where's the evidence. We were never told it, And
now we know the reason why is because they had none.
So that gets suppressed. And as you said, then Obama
orders the production of a new intelligence community assessment that
gets released in January twenty seventeen, and the low confidence
assessment of the FBI in the NSA gets buried, and
someone might argue, Okay, we'll find what if the US
got new intelligence after the FBI and the NSA first
made that low confidence assessment. Well, now we know from
the declassified Hipsie report that you mentioned that just came out,
that basically House intelligence report from twenty twenty that was
in the vault.
Speaker 2: Keep going exactly now.
Speaker 3: We learned from them that basically no new intelligence was
collected after the election, That most of the intelligence that
went into the ICA was collected before the election, which
means at the time that the FBI in the NSA
made their low confidence assessment that Russia hacked at DNC,
no new evidence was collected after that to change their
minds and think about it.
Speaker 2: This makes sense.
Speaker 3: At the same time, as the Clinton campaign was framing
Trump as a Russian asset, they were also hiring a firm, CrowdStrike,
which first accus Russia.
Speaker 2: Of hacking the DNC.
Speaker 3: And when the FBI went to CrowdStrike and said can
we investigate the DNC servers for ourselves, CrowdStrike said no.
And for some reason the FBI agreed to that. This
would be as if you know, I accused someone of
robbing my house, and then when the police came, I said, yeah,
I think that person did it. But you can't investigate yourself.
You have to rely on my own internal investigation.
Speaker 1: So something to keep in mind here. The FBI and
the NSA said low confidence that this was true, that
Russia was involved in this, and they when the administration
came out in October, as he said there, they this
changed then to a high confidence rating, and they claimed
to speak for the entire intelligence community. However, it was
only well, I should say, it excluded various other intel agencies,
including the Pentagon and the State Department's Intel Service, which
would be right there at the nexus of some sort
of a Russian hacking scheme, right, he said, the intelligence
community knew that Clinton was trying to frame Trump in
the summer of twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: Well, we do know that John Brennan briefed Obama right
before the Trump Russian investigation was open on July thirty first,
that he had picked up intelligence that Russia was aware
of a plot in which Hillary was going to frame
Trump as a Russian asset. And tie that to alleged
Russian interference. And Brennan got that and briefed it to Obama.
And now we learn actually what Brennan was concerned about
was not the Hillary was framing Trump as a Russian asset,
but that Russia was aware of it. That's what allies
of Brennan have said. And that's why even when Brennan
sent a referral to the FBI and making sure that
they're aware of this in early September, James Comy later
that he couldn't remember it.
Speaker 2: It didn't ring any bells. That was his testimony to Congress.
Speaker 3: You're not aware that the CIA told you that a
major presidential candidate was framing her rival as a Russian asset,
which you happened to be investigating on. And look, just
based on what we know already, the FBI claims that
Steele Dosia had nothing to do with decision to open
up Crossfire Hurricane.
Speaker 2: But yet we'll which is the investigation by the FBI,
and did Donald Trump and whether he colluded with Russia
to win? Correct?
Speaker 3: But we also know that weeks before the FBI opened
up its investigation, Victoria Neuland, who was then a senior
State Department official and a very hawkish bureaucrat when it
comes to Russia, and was really alarmed by Trump's rhetoric
on the campaign trail where he was criticizing foreign interventions
and even talking about getting along with Russia, even saying
we don't want to have World War three over Ukraine.
Victoria Neuland approves the deployment of an FBI agent to
go to Rome and meet with Christopher Steele.
Speaker 2: And receive as dossier.
Speaker 3: And THISBA agent received the dus this is early July
twenty sixteen, and gives it to his colleagues. And then
three weeks later, the FBI opens up the Trump Russian investigation,
immediately uses Steele's dossier as source material, including for surveillance
warrants on carter page. And they want us to believe
that this had nothing to do that the FBI receiving
the steel Dosia weeks earlier, had nothing to do with
opening up Crossfire Hurricane, And they want us to love
the official pretext is a ridiculous official predicate of George Popadopolis,
a low level Trump campaign volunteer, receiving quote a suggestion
of a suggestion of someone specified Russian help, it doesn't
make any sense. So if this Fox News is if
this Fox News report is correct that there's new evidence
that the FBI was in on this, it just attracts
exactly with what we already know.
Speaker 1: So the DNC hack and leak was low confidence that
it was done by Russia. According to the FBI and NSA.
They also said there was no technical evidence to support
this allegation that Russia did this, and that Russia did
it to help Trump. There's no evidence of that. And
then they suppressed that they buried that. And that's the
new information is that they knew from the very beginning
that there wasn't any evidence. The FBI in the NSA
said this isn't we have low confidence that any of
this is true, but it got changed and there wasn't
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Russia collusion hoax perpetrated by what is now clear perpetrated
by the Clinton campaign and the Obama administration and leaders
in the intelligence community in order to smear Trump as
a proxy of Putin. That Putin and Russia hacked the
election in order to help Trump win. And now we
have the declassified docum Humanen's showingness tracing it back the
DNC was hacked their emails were published on d c leaks.
The website and the Intelligence Community Assessment accused Russian President
Vladimir Putin of ordering an influenced campaign to denigrate Democratic
candidate Clinton and to help Trump win the twenty sixteen election.
Some of this effort involved propaganda on Russian media outlets
and messaging on social media. The larger component hinged on
the allegation that the GRU, Russia's main intelligence agency, stole
emails and documents from the Democrat Party and released that
material to two online entities, d C Leaks and Gutcheffer
two point zero, as well as the whistleblower organization WikiLeaks.
Julian Assange, by the way, the founder of WikiLeaks, has
long denied that Russia or any other state actor was
his source. Nevertheless, in twenty seventeen January twenty seven, the
ICA stated that the US had high confidence that Russia
engineered the hack, and this was apparently based on CrowdStrike. CrowdStrike,
the owner or the president of which used to work
with these intel leaders, claimed that they did a review
and they figured out it went back to Russia. But no,
we're not going to give you any evidence of that.
Speaker 3: What the public also wasn't told until a year after
Muller shut down was that CrowdStrike In December twenty seventeen,
their president Sean Henry, who by the way, used to
work with James Comy and Robert Muller at the FBI,
he testified before Congress in December twenty seventeen that CrowdStrike,
which had first accused Russia of hacking the DNC, actually
had no evidence. That's a quote, no evidence that these
alleged Russian hackers actually took anything from the DNC. And
that's a pretty big admission. You're accusing Russia of hacking
and leaking these emails, but you have no evidence that
they actually anything from your servers, So how can you
possibly make this allegation. Well, the public wasn't allowed to
ask this question because that was buried for almost three
years and only got released a year after the Muller
probe shutdown. So that's just another example of countervailing evidence
that comes out years after the fact that undermines this
explosive allegation that at the time, if you recall this,
it seems so silly now, like hacking leaking emails, it's
you know, people were comparing this to Pearl.
Speaker 2: Harbor in nine to eleven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which was absurd. But I remember this frenzy like
it was. It was constant. It was on every single
news station, it was in every paper, on all the websites.
Russia hacked the election. Trump is putin stooge, and the
intelligence community says hi confidence, high confidence, but there was
never any evidence for it. In fact, it was low confidence.
They did not they said they had no technical evidence. Everything. Well,
the only thing I'll say that was documented to be
true of what Russia did was that they had some
troll farms out there that did some memes like that's
that's what they were doing to try to sow chaos.
Speaker 3: There were academic studies trying to argue that Russian trolls
swung the election. It's an insult to everybody's intelligence, and
it was a way to cover up for the Democratic
Party's own failures in that elections and their refusal to
come to grips with that. So blaming Russia was a
convenient foil. But the hysteria around this was just it
was unbelievable. So I don't know if you remember this,
but when Trump gave his joint press conference with Putin
in July twenty eighteen, and you know, Trump next to
Putin said that Putin had denied interfering, and Trump said,
you know, I have no reason to doubt him.
Speaker 2: That the freak out was unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Like the way this was described, this was like the
worst thing a president has ever done. John Brennan described
Trump as quote nothing short of treasoness. When John Brennan
must have known that the FBI in the NSA actually
shared Trump's inclusions, certainly they had the low confidence assessment
that had been buried. And by the way, we also
learned now from the House Intelligence Support that they were
aware of Putin's view on the election, and people close
to Putin were saying that Putin didn't care because no
matter who won, in Putin's view, it wouldn't really matter.
Speaker 2: Policy towards Russia wouldn't change.
Speaker 3: And of course that's one of many pieces of critical
information that got suppressed in order to put out this
narrative that Russia was back in Trump.
Speaker 1: It was all lies. Now, there was this conflation also,
a conflation of hacking voting machines, which did not happen.
Russia did not hack the voting machines they may have tried,
but they did not. And hacking the DNC, He says.
Speaker 3: We learned from Tulsi's declassification something really important, which is
that the intelligence on the email hacking, forget the vote
hacking that was suppressed, and the two premier US intelligence
agencies who would be best placed to assess who hacked.
Speaker 2: The DNC and gave the emails to wiki leaks.
Speaker 3: They had low confidence in the allegation that it was Russia.
That's the bottom line here. So even if there was
a conflation made between vote machine hacking and DNC server hacking,
it doesn't matter because the intelligence on the email hacking
said that we don't have any evidence that Russia did it,
and that was kept from the public. That's a major
scandal because for years we were told this was the intelligence,
this was the intelligence consensus. If you question this, you're
a Russian propagandist. Your treasiness, as John Brennan said of
Donald Trump when he questioned this, and that is the
scandal here, the suppression of intelligence to manufacture a lie.
Speaker 1: To manufacture a lie. There's one more clip on this from.
Speaker 2: It, and even on the issue of voting machines. Yes,
it's true.
Speaker 3: You know, the bottoministration never said that Russia hacked voting machines.
But if you look at the media clips, like what
was the common talking point from Hillary Clinton on down.
Speaker 2: Russia hacked the election.
Speaker 3: Russia hacked the election, and it did create an impression
among many people, especially Democratic voters if you look at polls,
that Russia.
Speaker 2: Had changed the votes.
Speaker 3: And that's what happens when you have these propaganda campaigns
that you're not allowed to question, and if you do,
your called names, your marginalized, your kicked out of media spaces.
Speaker 2: They just create consensus.
Speaker 3: Like no one issued an edict saying you all have
to believe that Russia hacked a DNC. But just this, this,
this sort of group mania allowed for this to be pervasive.
And even now when evidence comes out showing that the
intelligence wasn't there to support it. Has any mainstream outlet
reported on this? Have they reported at the NSA and
the FBI had low confidence in the Russia hacking League allegation.
Speaker 2: Has anyone ever.
Speaker 1: Ye, It's not on any of their websites. This is
a massive scandal that now we have the proof of
how this thing began and who was involved, and nobody
cares why because at best y'all got scammed. At best,
at worst you were part of it in the media.
And they cannot admit this now, right, this requires some
level of accountability. And we've already heard that they are pursuing.
The doj is looking at charges to file against people.
You could do conspiracy charges, perjury charges, that sort of thing.
And remember there were people that were arrested, raided Roger
Stone right for perjury. People were put in jail regarding
this stuff. And as he called it, the mania was
also weaponized against Americans here. Many times, I've been accused
of being some Putin puppet because I'm not a Trump hater.
I don't even like I didn't even vote for Trumpet.
Of course, to the left, it doesn't matter. It was like,
you know, you're a Trumpist in all this, and I
was accused of being some puppet for Putin too, and
that was all a lie. All right, that'll do it
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