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<v Speaker 1>Coming to you from Studio A here at Proven Winters

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<v Speaker 1>Color Choice Shrubs. It's time for the Gardening Simplified Show

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<v Speaker 1>with Stacey Hervella me, Rick weisst and our engineer and

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<v Speaker 1>producer Adrianna Robinson. Well, Stacey, plants are like food, and well,

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<v Speaker 1>some food you like, some foods you don't. Same thing

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<v Speaker 1>with plants, as a matter of fact, some plants you

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<v Speaker 1>don't like. Some you even hate. Now I think about

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<v Speaker 1>that food analogy. As a kid. Once I got sick

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<v Speaker 1>on a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, and to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>the thought of it turns my stomach.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what. I don't like peanut butter and jelly either. Hey, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's a very weird thing not to like,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't get sick on it. But I've never

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<v Speaker 2>really cared for.

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<v Speaker 1>It, outstanding. So today we talk about plants we hate,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess I got to say this first before

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<v Speaker 1>we start. I've got to read a note from our

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<v Speaker 1>prestigious lawn firm of Trillium, Sage, gall and Ivy. The

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<v Speaker 1>opinions expressed on this show are solely those of Rick

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<v Speaker 1>and Stacey do not reflect the views of any employer, organization,

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<v Speaker 1>or sponsor. The product is provided as is and without

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<v Speaker 1>warranty of any kind, either express or implied, including, but

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<v Speaker 1>not limited to, our joint opinions.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, well, we have opinions and you will be

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<v Speaker 2>hearing them today. And our listeners have opinions too, and

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<v Speaker 2>they shared them last week on last week's episode on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 2>so we've got those as well.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to be fun. Now. Next year, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six, Stacy, I will have been in the garden

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<v Speaker 1>center industry for fifty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have to give a disclaimer here up front,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is a number of the plants that I

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<v Speaker 1>hate in the landscape are primarily due to the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that if you unload semi loads of these things over

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years, you're going to get sick of them too.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm yes, So it's plants you're sick of, not necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>that you don't like. Well, it's both, okay, it's both, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 1>It's both. So we'll dive into that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, what's for number one? You got a

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<v Speaker 2>number one that you can just like come right off

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<v Speaker 2>of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can tell you again, being in the garden

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<v Speaker 1>center industry, plastic flowers, silk flowers. I'm so sick of

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<v Speaker 1>having glitter on my nose and up my nose.

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<v Speaker 3>That's number one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not really a plant, but they look like plant.

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<v Speaker 1>The other day, I'm driving through a small town and

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<v Speaker 1>I see in the distance lavender in full bloom. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>here in early March in Michigan. I'm like, there's no way,

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<v Speaker 1>so I go up there, and of course they're plastic flowers,

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<v Speaker 1>so kind of makes the hair stand up on the

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<v Speaker 1>back of my neck. But you know, sometimes it's situational.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, plants that drive me crazy are people who

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<v Speaker 1>will plant a hedge like privet, and then every year

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<v Speaker 1>they just take a little off the top, so they've

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<v Speaker 1>got naked branches up to the top where it's full

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<v Speaker 1>and lush, it just looks awful. Or mailbox plantings where

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<v Speaker 1>they've gone bad. In other words, as opposed to dressing

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<v Speaker 1>up the male or trying to disguise the mailbox, they're

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<v Speaker 1>actually calling attention to it now, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the other thing that drives me nuts is

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<v Speaker 1>overgrown lilacs. Vulgaris lilacs. I love lilacs, but overgrown lilacs

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<v Speaker 1>take a pruning shares to them.

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<v Speaker 3>So sometimes it's the situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh interesting, I love a good overgrown lilac. I love

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<v Speaker 2>that like you know, like oh I just happened into

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<v Speaker 2>an enchanted place kind of vibe, like I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me see, this is the whole thing. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to say, plants that our listeners might actually like, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is perfectly okay, because these are just our opinions

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<v Speaker 2>and we hold them strongly. And for every plant we

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<v Speaker 2>say that someone likes, they may hate a plant that

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<v Speaker 2>you and I like, correct, and there's enough to go

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<v Speaker 2>around for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>So just send your notes, complaints, cards, letters to Gardening

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<v Speaker 1>simplified on air dot Com Today's Limerick. They may promote

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<v Speaker 1>you as being hardy, but I'm a Hordic cultural smarty,

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<v Speaker 1>not part of my landscape diagram. I do not like

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<v Speaker 1>green eggs and ham. You're not welcome to my garden party.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I just kind of threw that one together.

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<v Speaker 2>So who's not welcome? Obviously plastic flowers, but that's, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a non issue. So what one plant are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Just? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Not a snowballs? Chance is this thing going to enter

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<v Speaker 2>into my garden?

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<v Speaker 3>I'll give you a few of them, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Fragrance embeds in your memory. Okay, Yes, So calorie pears

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<v Speaker 1>or ornamental pears. They smell fishy, they smell like mothballs.

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<v Speaker 2>They smell horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they smell horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't like them, super invasive.

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<v Speaker 1>Also marrigold flowers. Of course, I handled thousands and thousands

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<v Speaker 1>and thousands of flats of marigolds.

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<v Speaker 3>I would go home.

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<v Speaker 1>My clothes smell like marigolds. That's why they drive me crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>They have this acrid, unpleasant taste and smell. They're they

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't like them, okay. And then stargazer lilies,

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<v Speaker 1>the smell of them, the aroma. I can give you

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<v Speaker 1>a description of what they smell like, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to come across as appearing.

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<v Speaker 3>Being gross, So I'm just that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course trees are a long term investment. I've

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<v Speaker 1>planted trees and personal landscapes before that I loved, and

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<v Speaker 1>neighbors and others hated. Like a camperdown elm or I

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<v Speaker 1>love cleeping beach. Love that plant. It's like a Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Seuss plant. Love it.

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<v Speaker 3>But no.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course blue is a highly desired color

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<v Speaker 1>in the landscape, and so from the mid nineteen hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>through nineteen eighty one of the most over planted plants

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<v Speaker 1>was Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>Bluesofful there and it's native to the southern Rocky Mountain area,

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<v Speaker 2>so you put it in an area that it doesn't like.

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<v Speaker 1>Over time, you're gonna start dealing with canker and needle

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<v Speaker 1>cast and then you start pruning out some of the

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<v Speaker 1>affected branches. And you know, of course, your house doesn't grow,

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<v Speaker 1>but that cute little Colorado spruce planted forty years ago

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<v Speaker 1>does and it overpowers the house.

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<v Speaker 3>So how am I doing here?

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<v Speaker 2>You're good? I do want to say my most number

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<v Speaker 2>one hated plants, okay, and why there's two reasons why. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>my number one most hated plant in the world. Well

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not in the world, but you know that we

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<v Speaker 2>grow in our gardens is egga podium po groarica Bishop's weed.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh oh yeah, it's on the list.

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<v Speaker 2>And I really hate this plant for two main reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one, it's just ugly, not an attractive plant. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I will say that the flowers are kind of pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I moved into my house and there was

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<v Speaker 2>some planted it flowered, and I actually quite enjoyed using

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<v Speaker 2>them in arrangements. Still not a reason to grow it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's an ugly planet. It's a groundcover. But I

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<v Speaker 2>also have a personal grudge against this plant. Oh really,

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<v Speaker 2>because it may not surprise you to find out that

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<v Speaker 2>my plant id skills are typically pretty great. And when

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<v Speaker 2>I was in a horticulture school, we had two major exams,

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<v Speaker 2>a horticultural technique exam and a plant id exam. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and Agapodium pol roarica is the one single plant that

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<v Speaker 2>I got wrong on my plant id exam.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't get a hundred on that.

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<v Speaker 2>So between those two things, it is my like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's certainly other plants that I strongly dislike and even hate,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, with that extra like grudge factor in

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<v Speaker 2>there for the Agapodium that is. And you know that

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<v Speaker 2>was actually one of the plants that came up on

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<v Speaker 2>our YouTube comments.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, and they marketed it as Snow on the Mountain.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, gave it.

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<v Speaker 1>A nice name because it's variegated. See I feel that

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<v Speaker 1>way about euphour.

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<v Speaker 3>Be a spurge.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I hate that too.

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<v Speaker 1>You Yeah, And there's a reason the deer don't eat.

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<v Speaker 2>It ch toxic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's just blue boy, oh boy, marigolds. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what really gets me ivy geraniums. I don't why stringy.

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<v Speaker 1>They break off thousands and thousands of hanging baskets that

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<v Speaker 1>I've hung up and taken down.

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<v Speaker 2>And oh well, I'll tell you this. Don't go to

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<v Speaker 2>any pubs in Ireland in the summer because they're all

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<v Speaker 2>decorated with beautiful window boxes full of ivy geraniums.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know I'm gonna get in trouble, I know that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I gotta be honest.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>The same applies to Calibricoa. I just think there's just

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<v Speaker 1>too many.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'll walk into a greenhouse in spring.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. Proven Winners does a great job with their calibri coas,

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<v Speaker 1>but it can be kind of unruly. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>bad hair day. I love many Vista supertunias and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>take that over a calibricoa any day. And the other

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<v Speaker 1>thing that drives me crazy about it is anytime I

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<v Speaker 1>see a bunch of them in a greenhouse or hanging up,

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<v Speaker 3>Of the day in my head.

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<v Speaker 1>Dick van Dijke and Julie Andrews super califragilistic expiala do.

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<v Speaker 1>It just sticks in my head because I sing that

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<v Speaker 1>song every time I see Calibri Coa's and so I

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<v Speaker 1>just forgive me send your notes, cards, letters. But Stacy,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like Calibri CoA baskets. Well, that is perfectly fair, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Vinca Minor, well, Vinca Major even worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, much worse. I just like them both.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I came from the generation where you go

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<v Speaker 1>into the garden center, every container was geranium, spikes, Vinca Major,

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<v Speaker 1>and Dusty Miller.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, and I remember those days.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't stand all four of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up with that combination in my backyards. I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I am also not a fan. I have never planted

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<v Speaker 2>a deranium like of my own accord. Okay, ever, so

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't you know there that's like for me,

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<v Speaker 2>It's like there's enough out there, like I don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to bring it into my life. The stuff that I

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<v Speaker 2>see out in the world is ample for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, and again honesty, okay. The reason I can't

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<v Speaker 1>handle is because, again in the seventies and eighties, I

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<v Speaker 1>handled hundreds of thousands of them, and I filled hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of thousands of pots with geranium spikes and vinca vines

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<v Speaker 1>that went directly to the cemetery. And so those flowers

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<v Speaker 1>make me think of the cemetery.

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<v Speaker 2>So can't help it, all right, you haven't listened any

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<v Speaker 2>perennials yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh we will in the speed Yes, I did you

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<v Speaker 1>four be a spurs?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yes, yeah, that is a crummy one with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll tell you what we're going to do, speed

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<v Speaker 1>round implants on trial.

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to the Gardening Simplified Show, where we are friendly,

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<v Speaker 2>but we are talking about plants that we hate and

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<v Speaker 2>also plants that you hate, which you shared with us

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<v Speaker 2>in I do want to clarify that these are just

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<v Speaker 2>our opinions, and you know, the more you get into gardening,

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<v Speaker 2>the more you're going to kind of develop these tastes.

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<v Speaker 2>Plants that you absolutely love, plants that you hate. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes it doesn't make any sense at all, and

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<v Speaker 1>And the other factor here is if somebody in a

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<v Speaker 2>plants that they hate, and we can share that list later.

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<v Speaker 2>But one thing that stuck out to me across this

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<v Speaker 2>entire list the number one plants that people hate aren't

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<v Speaker 2>really like so much like me and daylilies, where I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just like, I don't like the way that plant looks

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<v Speaker 2>or feels. The majority of plants that people hate are

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<v Speaker 2>actually invasive plants. The list is almost entirely invasive or

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<v Speaker 2>difficult to manage plants. And I'm not really clear whether

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<v Speaker 2>that is because those plants are maintenance issues for the

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<v Speaker 2>listeners who share that, and that is why they hate them,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with them in their yard. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for plants on trial today, we are going to do

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<v Speaker 2>do sell the shrub that I hate the most, and

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<v Speaker 2>it is barbary.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know there's no surprises here in the studio.

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you Rick and Adriana knew this well

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<v Speaker 2>about me. And you know the reason barbary is invasive,

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<v Speaker 2>not everywhere you know, you go out west and people

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<v Speaker 2>are growing barbary and it looks perfectly lovely. But here

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<v Speaker 2>in the Midwest and the East coast, barbary is actually

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<v Speaker 2>was just kind of like meh on it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly going back to my landscaping days, like you and

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<v Speaker 2>your truck unloading days. I didn't like planting it because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, mostly I feel like barbary just does not

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<v Speaker 2>do enough in the landscape to be to merit all

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<v Speaker 2>of the problems that it's causing. And the first time

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<v Speaker 2>you know, So we walk up to it and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a barbary. And so here I am trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>some peace and relaxation, enjoying the scenery, and there's a

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<v Speaker 2>barbary intruding on this beautiful natural site. And that was

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<v Speaker 2>like really you know, it really got me that affected you,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just again don't think that barbary has enough

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<v Speaker 2>aesthetic value for me to you know, merit all these

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<v Speaker 2>problems that it's causing. And other people on YouTube also said.

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<v Speaker 1>Barbary, well, send your notes, cardage letters to Gardening Simplified

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<v Speaker 2>So despite my dear issues in the fact that barbary

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<v Speaker 2>is very dear resistant, you will never ever, ever, ever

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<v Speaker 2>ever catch a barbary in my garden. So you rick

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<v Speaker 2>trub that you hate because of.

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<v Speaker 1>All the tr unloaded and Dora junipers and taxis, it's

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, Texas is also kind of a me a plant.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. When we talk about Texas a few weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about the ones in the UK and those

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<v Speaker 2>are truly spectacular. But here in the US, Texas is

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to write home about. As they say, tree you hate.

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<v Speaker 1>The mulberry tree was brought into the United States for

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<v Speaker 1>the silkworms, you know, to feed the silkworms in the

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<v Speaker 1>silk industry, and it of course got out and that

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<v Speaker 1>tree drives me nuts. Mulberry trees and calorie pears.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so Breadford pair definitely on my list and You know,

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<v Speaker 2>people love Breadford pear because it has white flowers in

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<v Speaker 2>spring and that super tidy you know shape that they

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<v Speaker 2>love and fall color. But bread for pear, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>take a drive through the south in the early spring

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<v Speaker 2>and see how it has spread, you know, into the woods,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is really just so so heartbreaking. But I

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<v Speaker 2>also have my most hated tree is a tie with

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<v Speaker 2>no maple.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I can see that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, And I will give I hate, especially Crimson

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<v Speaker 2>King Norway maple. But I will give Crimson King a

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<v Speaker 2>seasonal pass for when it flowers because it is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of cool how the yellow flowers and the purple emerging

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<v Speaker 2>leaves look. But that is still not worth planting Norway

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<v Speaker 2>maple because they just don't do enough. Yeah, great bulb

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<v Speaker 2>that you hate.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna get in trouble here. Cannot stand hyacinths. Ooh reason

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<v Speaker 1>I can't stand hyacinths. I think the bloom lasts such

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<v Speaker 1>a short time. I don't like the aroma of hyacinths.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, working in the garden center industry, if you

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<v Speaker 1>handle the bulbs, many people are allergic to them. They

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<v Speaker 1>will make you itch, they will make you go crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>You're itching yourself. I had one time in the winter time,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dealing with hyacinths. We force them. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>snowbank cave. I was itching so bad. Can't stand hyacinth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that happened to me too when I will not

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<v Speaker 2>quite like that. But when I was working at Martha

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<v Speaker 2>Stewart Living my very first photoshoot, I was so excited.

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<v Speaker 2>I was new on the job and it was an

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<v Speaker 2>Easter photo shoot and we were doing all this crazy

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<v Speaker 2>stuff with hyacinth flowers and I did not know about

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<v Speaker 2>the itching ye, and I was absolutely miserable for the

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<v Speaker 2>entire day because it's just like the sap and everything

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<v Speaker 2>gets everywhere, and it's really really terrible poison. Ivy did

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<v Speaker 2>come up on a number of YouTube comments, but this

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<v Speaker 2>is almost that bad. It just doesn't give you a

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<v Speaker 2>rash for me. Star of Bethel, Hamwich, we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>last week YEP, because a listener had it as a weed.

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<v Speaker 2>Very difficult to manage. You know. Also, like our listeners,

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<v Speaker 2>most of my most hated plants are also invasives perennial

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<v Speaker 2>that you hate.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies mantle, the al camilla moolus.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, because it looks like a weed to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, in the garden center industry, we'd set it

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<v Speaker 1>out in April on the benches, it'd still be there

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<v Speaker 1>in October.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's such like a gardener plant, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's like English gardens.

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<v Speaker 1>I vibes, I'm going to get.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm just a little surprised. That's all. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>mine is daily. As we have already discussed, not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people when our YouTube comments mentioned lilies, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think they they were mostly implying that they hate

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<v Speaker 2>the ditch lilies or you know, the ones that grow

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<v Speaker 2>wild in all of the ditches. And it's true that

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<v Speaker 2>orange is terrible, and I love orange, but the orange

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<v Speaker 2>of that plant is just ghastly. But I even hate

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<v Speaker 2>the ornamental daylilies, as I discussed. Their thick petals are

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<v Speaker 2>gross and absorbent and weird and look like diapers, and

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<v Speaker 2>I do not like to look at them or certainly

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<v Speaker 2>touch them. Groundcover, you hate ground cover?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, I could say Bishop Scout weed, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say a juga. Oh, a juga is not a

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<v Speaker 1>Caribbean island that you go to in winter to vacation. Rather,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a non native ground cut that tends

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<v Speaker 1>to get thrips and mites and just doesn't perform. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>I handled hundreds of thousands of pots of a juga.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also known as bugle wheat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you know, I've rarely seen is as much as

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<v Speaker 2>a juga is sold as a groundcover, I have rarely

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<v Speaker 2>seen like a really good, solid planting of a juga

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<v Speaker 2>as a groundcover.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, people will argue chocolate chip, you know, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the newer varieties in There are some good varieties out there,

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<v Speaker 1>But I can do without a juga.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Mine is going to be heetunia, Yeah, chameleon plant.

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked about it many times on the show because

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<v Speaker 2>people will write us in desperation, what do I do

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<v Speaker 2>about this horrible, smelly, weird looking plant, because yeah, not

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<v Speaker 2>only does it have a terrible weird fragrance, the foliage

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<v Speaker 2>does you know that variegation I really don't like. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's like yellow and green and red. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>the other thing about houtunia is any little piece of

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<v Speaker 2>this plant that is falls on the soil or remains

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<v Speaker 2>and the soil will grow and it is just very

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<v Speaker 2>difficult to manage and eradicate. And again it's just it's

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<v Speaker 2>too ugly to be that aggressive. I guess it's a problem. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now you've given us a lot of annuals that you hate,

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<v Speaker 2>But what's going to be your your go to here

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<v Speaker 2>in spect.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna leave it with ivy geraniums and say

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<v Speaker 1>no more because I'm in deep right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So mine is Salvius Blendins. Really yes, So now

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of wonderful salva's out there that I

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<v Speaker 2>do enjoy. But if you're not familiar with Sealvius Blendon's,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't really know that it has like another

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<v Speaker 2>common name that I'm not thinking of. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>like the old fashioned single stem salvia usually red, sometimes purple,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes white, that comes up and has the bracks and

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<v Speaker 2>then the little flowers that come out of it, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like yeah, like that, Yeah, so I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's yeah. So I really don't like that. Although Prooven

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<v Speaker 2>Winners did come out with some new cultivars that I

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<v Speaker 2>did trial last year and I didn't hate, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>a far cry from the ones that I'm talking about. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>M interesting. I would disagree with you there.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, oh so interesting, even like the ones

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<v Speaker 2>with the thin leaves are just the one. The newer

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<v Speaker 2>ones with the new.

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<v Speaker 1>Ones, like the Mohave series, they're incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I guess maybe when I'm retired, I will

424
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<v Speaker 2>also like Portulacca more. But for working people, it's not

425
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<v Speaker 2>a good plan because the flowers close up when you

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<v Speaker 2>get home.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel a little old now. Advan is cracking up

428
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<v Speaker 1>over there.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, listen, I have a few more speed round questions.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have to save those.

431
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we need to do those, because I'm looking at this.

432
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<v Speaker 3>This is gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So we will come back to that in segod form.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're going to take a break now and when

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<v Speaker 2>we come back to answer your garden questions. So stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 2>Color Choice dot com. Greetings gardening friends, and welcome back

445
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<v Speaker 2>to the Gardening Simplified Show, where we are talking about

446
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<v Speaker 2>plants we hate. But we're taking a little break from

447
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<v Speaker 2>that conversation to answer your gardening questions. And you know,

448
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<v Speaker 2>I picked these questions today because they were timely, but

449
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<v Speaker 2>I also realize just now that all of them do

450
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<v Speaker 2>actually include plants that I actually like, Yeah, not about

451
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<v Speaker 2>plants that I hate. So if you have a question,

452
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<v Speaker 2>whether even if it is rather about a plant that

453
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<v Speaker 2>Rick and I hate, we will still be happy to

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<v Speaker 2>help you. You can reach us at Gardening Simplified on

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<v Speaker 2>air dot com, or of course leave a comment on YouTube,

456
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<v Speaker 2>because we do look at all of those and appreciate

457
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<v Speaker 2>your engagement. So Rick, what we got in the mail

458
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<v Speaker 2>bag today?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Sue is writing to us. Hello, I love your show.

460
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<v Speaker 1>I'm in Zone five B, Northwest suburb of Chicago. I

461
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<v Speaker 1>ordered an El Nino che tulpa. Right is the plannxiation

462
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<v Speaker 1>for us? If you're keeping score at home, I'm taking

463
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<v Speaker 1>a chance because the plant is listed as zones six

464
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<v Speaker 1>through nine. But I really love the look while watching

465
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<v Speaker 1>others grow it in warmer zones. I'm going to plant

466
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<v Speaker 1>it in a protected sunny area of my property, plan

467
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<v Speaker 1>on mulching around it in late fall. But is there

468
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<v Speaker 1>something else I could do to increase my chances of survival?

469
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<v Speaker 1>I would also love to get a cryptomeria, which is

470
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<v Speaker 1>zone six'. Nine SHOULD i quit trying to push the

471
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<v Speaker 1>zones because it could get?

472
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<v Speaker 3>Expensive? Oh, No, sue push the zoncial.

473
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<v Speaker 2>Zones push the. Zones, yes it can get. Expensive and

474
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<v Speaker 2>that's something you. Know it's to me when when a

475
00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:53.440
<v Speaker 2>gardener is pushing the, zones it just becomes kind of

476
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<v Speaker 2>a ven diagram of like you know where the push

477
00:23:57.000 --> 00:23:58.480
<v Speaker 2>and pull, Is like how much are you willing to

478
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<v Speaker 2>invest in time and money versus you, know your expected

479
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<v Speaker 2>benefit of that? Plant BUT i wanted to answer who's question,

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<v Speaker 2>now especially because the number one piece of ADVICE i

481
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<v Speaker 2>can give to anyone who wants to push the hardiness

482
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<v Speaker 2>zone of a plant in their yard is to plant

483
00:24:16.240 --> 00:24:18.559
<v Speaker 2>it as early as possible in. Spring, now don't you?

484
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<v Speaker 2>Know plant it now and we're still going to get

485
00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:22.039
<v Speaker 2>lots of cold weather and the soil is not really

486
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<v Speaker 2>ready for planting. Anyway but as soon as planting opens

487
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<v Speaker 2>up for your, area sure that is when you want

488
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<v Speaker 2>to plant. That these are not plants that you want

489
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<v Speaker 2>to put in in. FALL i, mean of, course, again

490
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<v Speaker 2>as we've often, said if you get a good, deal

491
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<v Speaker 2>what the. Heck but you, know if you're paying full

492
00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:38.880
<v Speaker 2>price and you really want to make sure the plant

493
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<v Speaker 2>has the best possible opportunity to get established and withstand

494
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<v Speaker 2>the challenges of, winter early spring planting is so key

495
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<v Speaker 2>because that will give it the longest possible time to

496
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<v Speaker 2>get roots established and be able to withstand you, know those.

497
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<v Speaker 2>Conditions so that's especially IMPORTANT i think with evergreens like the.

498
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<v Speaker 2>CRYPTOMERIA i don't THINK i think That cryptomeria is believed

499
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<v Speaker 2>to be less hardy than it actually. Is we have

500
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<v Speaker 2>quite a few in our trial gardens here In West.

501
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<v Speaker 2>Michigan now we ARE Usda zone SIX b because we

502
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<v Speaker 2>have the benefit of the lake kind of making things

503
00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:16.319
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more mild in the winter and a

504
00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:19.279
<v Speaker 2>little bit nicer in the summer as. Well but we

505
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<v Speaker 2>get no winter damage at all on, cryptomeria and we've

506
00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:27.160
<v Speaker 2>had no real winter damage on The chittelpa either on Al. Nino,

507
00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:29.079
<v Speaker 2>now this is kind of a difficult plant because it's

508
00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:30.680
<v Speaker 2>the only one, around so it's not like we can

509
00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:34.279
<v Speaker 2>really take you, know what people are saying about this

510
00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:38.039
<v Speaker 2>species or this genus and, say, okay well you know

511
00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:40.279
<v Speaker 2>this one is like, this so we are kind of

512
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<v Speaker 2>blazing new. Ground BUT i would say so if as

513
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<v Speaker 2>long as you're planting it in a sunny, spot well,

514
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<v Speaker 2>drained which is also often very crucial for these plants

515
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<v Speaker 2>when we're trying to push the hardiness, OWN i would

516
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<v Speaker 2>say you have a very high likelihood of success With El.

517
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<v Speaker 2>Nino the only thing is that you want to be aware.

518
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<v Speaker 2>Of it may die back to the, ground especially if

519
00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:04.000
<v Speaker 2>you have a very harsh. Winter don't consider it. Dead

520
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:07.039
<v Speaker 2>don't just write it. Off give it some time to,

521
00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:10.440
<v Speaker 2>emerge because it can emerge from its roots much like

522
00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:14.200
<v Speaker 2>a butterfly bush or. Carryopteris so don't write it, off

523
00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:16.279
<v Speaker 2>be patient with. It and that's you, know very often

524
00:26:16.359 --> 00:26:18.759
<v Speaker 2>the case with these. Things so it can be. Done

525
00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:21.160
<v Speaker 2>just make sure that you're doing your work in early,

526
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<v Speaker 2>spring giving it the longest possible time to. Establish and of,

527
00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:27.440
<v Speaker 2>course as always welch is a very good friend for

528
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<v Speaker 2>getting these plants through.

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<v Speaker 1>Winter it, is AND i have nothing to, Add stacy

530
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<v Speaker 1>EXCEPT i did plant In El nino in my yard In.

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<v Speaker 3>October, okay so we'll see.

532
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<v Speaker 1>What, happens because your advice is really.

533
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<v Speaker 2>Good, WELL i actually overwintered some Al nino's in containers

534
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<v Speaker 2>in my, yard which of course you should never. Do

535
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<v Speaker 2>but AS i THINK i was talking about a few weeks,

536
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<v Speaker 2>ago you, know you get free plants in this, job

537
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<v Speaker 2>and you don't always get them in and THEY i.

538
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<v Speaker 2>Have obviously they haven't leaked out, yet but they seem

539
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<v Speaker 2>perfectly fine and completely unfazed by our. Winters.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome Cheryl innn, WRITES i have several new spilled wine

541
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<v Speaker 1>Wou jela in my. Yard this is a plant that

542
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<v Speaker 1>you featured last week in our groundcover. Show one of

543
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:09.640
<v Speaker 1>them seems to be struggling from the. Beginning instead of purplish,

544
00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:12.720
<v Speaker 1>leaves they seem to have been more on the brown

545
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<v Speaker 1>side and very little.

546
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<v Speaker 3>GROWTH i couldn't.

547
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:17.599
<v Speaker 1>Find a photo when it had, leaves But i'm sending

548
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<v Speaker 1>a current. One not sure if it will be helpful at.

549
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:24.319
<v Speaker 1>All can it be some sort of? SCALE i try

550
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<v Speaker 1>to stay organic as much as.

551
00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Possible, okay so we will Have cherylyn's photo of course

552
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<v Speaker 2>on the YouTube version and in the show. Notes And,

553
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<v Speaker 2>cherylyn know what you're actually seeing is it's a lentis.

554
00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:39.599
<v Speaker 2>Sills and it's a fun. Word, yeah, yeah. Yeah so

555
00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:44.359
<v Speaker 2>all plants have lentis, sills but not all lentisils are very.

556
00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Visible and so what a lentisill is is just kind

557
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:50.480
<v Speaker 2>of a raised bump on the stems of a. Plant

558
00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:53.559
<v Speaker 2>and when and so some plants will have a lot

559
00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:55.480
<v Speaker 2>of lentisils and make you, go oh, gosh there's something

560
00:27:55.519 --> 00:27:57.559
<v Speaker 2>wrong with. That and some we'll just have one here or,

561
00:27:57.599 --> 00:28:00.720
<v Speaker 2>there and why do you is one of those with

562
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:03.839
<v Speaker 2>a lot of. Lentisills and because they are little raised

563
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:06.720
<v Speaker 2>bumps on the, stems people tend to think it's some

564
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:10.319
<v Speaker 2>sort of you, know disease or insect. Infestation so, No,

565
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:12.720
<v Speaker 2>cherylyn don't. Worry you don't have to spray. Anything you

566
00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:15.440
<v Speaker 2>do not have. Scale you have your normal lentisils on the.

567
00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:19.279
<v Speaker 2>Plant if it has more lentiscills than its. Neighbors sometimes

568
00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:22.160
<v Speaker 2>that happens too due to cultural, conditions the fact that

569
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:24.799
<v Speaker 2>it hasn't grown and the foliage seems kind of brown

570
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:27.000
<v Speaker 2>suggests to me that it probably needs a little more.

571
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:32.119
<v Speaker 2>Water it's possible that your particular where this particular plant,

572
00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:34.519
<v Speaker 2>is there is perhaps some tree roots in the area

573
00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:37.039
<v Speaker 2>that are robbing water away from, it even if the

574
00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:40.839
<v Speaker 2>neighboring plants that you also planted are totally. Fine SO

575
00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:42.319
<v Speaker 2>i would keep an eye on. It and you, know

576
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:45.839
<v Speaker 2>don't forget that when a plant maybe isn't getting as much,

577
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:47.680
<v Speaker 2>water you can. Check you can take a shovel and

578
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:49.480
<v Speaker 2>just dig around a little bit and see what's going

579
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:51.960
<v Speaker 2>on under the. Surface BUT i have had, it you

580
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:55.200
<v Speaker 2>know where a tree root will take more water away from,

581
00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:59.119
<v Speaker 2>something even though it's neighbors are totally. Fine so between

582
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:02.039
<v Speaker 2>the brown foliage and the little, growth that definitely suggests

583
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.400
<v Speaker 2>to me a little more. Water don't worry about the

584
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:07.160
<v Speaker 2>lentisills and hopefully it should start to turn around this

585
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:07.960
<v Speaker 2>season and.

586
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:10.720
<v Speaker 1>We all learned something. New lentisylls is not a.

587
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:11.839
<v Speaker 2>Soup next.

588
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:13.839
<v Speaker 3>Two next, Question, terry is a great.

589
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<v Speaker 1>QUESTION i would like to know your recommendation for growing

590
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:19.039
<v Speaker 1>a basil that is both prolific and does not go

591
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:21.119
<v Speaker 1>to seed. Quickly that's a Great.

592
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:23.720
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that such a good, question because everybody loves. Basil,

593
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:26.200
<v Speaker 2>okay not everybody loves, basil but there are people out

594
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:31.480
<v Speaker 2>there who hate. BASIL i love basil as. Well and,

595
00:29:31.640 --> 00:29:33.559
<v Speaker 2>yeah so when, basil if you haven't grown it, before

596
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:37.160
<v Speaker 2>when basil goes to, seed its foliage tends to become quite,

597
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:39.720
<v Speaker 2>strong which may or may not be such a bad,

598
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:43.480
<v Speaker 2>thing but certainly not necessarily suitable to a delicate application

599
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:46.799
<v Speaker 2>like a cuprazy. Salad BUT i have great news for, You.

600
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Terry there is a basil that never, flowers and it

601
00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:54.599
<v Speaker 2>Is pesto perpetuo. Basil, now there was a long time

602
00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:57.359
<v Speaker 2>WHERE i could find this plant. Easily over the last

603
00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:00.240
<v Speaker 2>couple of, YEARS i have unfortunately had trouble finding. It

604
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:02.880
<v Speaker 2>but it's very easy to spot in the garden center

605
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:05.119
<v Speaker 2>if they carry. It because it is also a variegated,

606
00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:08.599
<v Speaker 2>basil so it's kind of like a mint green and white.

607
00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Variegation it naturally grows into a dense columnar. FORM i

608
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:16.160
<v Speaker 2>have grown this many. Years it never ever, flowers and

609
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:18.519
<v Speaker 2>in years Where i've had a lot of different types of,

610
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:21.160
<v Speaker 2>basil this is the one THAT i can continue to

611
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:25.079
<v Speaker 2>harvest on clear up until. Frost i've even brought it

612
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:27.519
<v Speaker 2>in it usually, defoliates but if you have bright sun

613
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:29.359
<v Speaker 2>and good air, circulation you might be able to get it.

614
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:32.079
<v Speaker 2>Through i've also found that the proven winners a masal

615
00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:35.920
<v Speaker 2>basil does pretty. Well, yeah so that one's. Great that

616
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:38.440
<v Speaker 2>one has been slow to bolt or flower for. Me

617
00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:42.400
<v Speaker 2>some people will say that the foliage is thicker and

618
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:45.319
<v Speaker 2>maybe a little bit less delicate than certain other culinary basil.

619
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:48.319
<v Speaker 2>Varieties BUT i would also, say so those are two

620
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:50.599
<v Speaker 2>varieties that you can check out if you can find.

621
00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:52.839
<v Speaker 2>Them BUT i would also say this is somewhat of

622
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:56.400
<v Speaker 2>a cultural issue as. Well, now there is a point,

623
00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:58.799
<v Speaker 2>where of, course you cannot possibly keep your basil from.

624
00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Flowering usually that comes somewhere around Early august and things

625
00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:05.880
<v Speaker 2>just like signs OUT i got a. Flower but there's

626
00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:08.000
<v Speaker 2>a couple of things you can. Do first of, all

627
00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:10.440
<v Speaker 2>instead of just harvesting what you need sort of like,

628
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:13.799
<v Speaker 2>midsummer maybe around like fourth Of july or a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>after just cut the whole thing back to get that

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00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:18.519
<v Speaker 2>fresh new growth out of, it and then that will

631
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.680
<v Speaker 2>really delay its. Flowering and the other thing that you

632
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:25.599
<v Speaker 2>can do or in combination with, that is succession. Sewing

633
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:29.079
<v Speaker 2>so don't just plant one crop of basil at the

634
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:32.160
<v Speaker 2>beginning of the season and call it. Done save some

635
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:36.039
<v Speaker 2>seed or take cuttings of your plants and continue to

636
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:39.480
<v Speaker 2>plant out fresh ones through the. Season and by staggering

637
00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:42.559
<v Speaker 2>those start, times you'll have a much longer harvest.

638
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Window, yeah that's, great great. Advice and, again the new

639
00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:51.559
<v Speaker 1>cultivars like a masal basil is just fantastic in that

640
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:55.720
<v Speaker 1>they're not going to easily, flower similar to how they've

641
00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:59.720
<v Speaker 1>developed colius in the landscape a foliage plant and keep

642
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:02.119
<v Speaker 1>it from. Bolting we used to always have to cut

643
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:03.359
<v Speaker 1>that back too and pinch. It.

644
00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:05.119
<v Speaker 2>YEAH i was actually kind of surprised you didn't have

645
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.559
<v Speaker 2>colius as one of your least. Favorites, NO i Like,

646
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:09.640
<v Speaker 2>NO i used to Like Wizard, Mix.

647
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:10.839
<v Speaker 3>Oh Wizard.

648
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:12.799
<v Speaker 2>Mix all, right on that.

649
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:18.319
<v Speaker 1>These are old fashioned varieties from the seventies and, eighties

650
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:21.759
<v Speaker 1>like Red Hot sally Or boyleboy marigolds and Boy O.

651
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<v Speaker 3>Boy we're going to talk about this further in the next. Segment,

652
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<v Speaker 3>yeah so stay.

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<v Speaker 1>Com welcome back to The Gardening Simplified. Show today for branching,

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<v Speaker 1>news we'll continue the speed round Because, STACY i gotta

660
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:55.079
<v Speaker 1>be honest with. YOU i find this fun and it's

661
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:56.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of cleansing for.

662
00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Me, yes you, have you, KNOW i feel like you

663
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:01.319
<v Speaker 2>really let your true sell show through one the fakio.

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00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:04.799
<v Speaker 2>Today it's been it's been, lovely it's been. Delightful vegetable

665
00:33:04.839 --> 00:33:07.599
<v Speaker 2>that you hate, growing not eating, necessarily because those could

666
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:08.519
<v Speaker 2>be two totally different.

667
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Things it's a kind of vegetable, asparagus fern or spring a.

668
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:15.200
<v Speaker 3>Eye cannot stand that.

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00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Stuff my arms just itch like crazy again handled thousands

670
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:20.759
<v Speaker 1>of those. Things spring a.

671
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:21.960
<v Speaker 2>EYE i also hate.

672
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:23.400
<v Speaker 3>Those why do people grow?

673
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>SPRING i don't know they.

674
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:27.920
<v Speaker 2>And yeah they just again they're Not they're not attractive

675
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:30.160
<v Speaker 2>enough to be worth their. Trouble BUT i do love

676
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.680
<v Speaker 2>actual asparagus, plants even THOUGH i Hate, OH i like the.

677
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Asparagus, OH i like eating. ASPARAGUS i love the.

678
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.440
<v Speaker 2>PLANT i don't like the. Vegetable but the vegetable THAT

679
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:40.720
<v Speaker 2>i hate growing in a. Way this was a tough

680
00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:43.440
<v Speaker 2>one for, me But i'm gonna put this one out

681
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:48.720
<v Speaker 2>there tomatillo because tomatillos are very easy to, grow you.

682
00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Know and WHAT i have found is you plant, them

683
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.640
<v Speaker 2>they start to self. Sew and for whatever REASON i

684
00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:57.480
<v Speaker 2>do not. Know And adrian is nodding because this has

685
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:00.200
<v Speaker 2>happened to her as, well for whatever REASON i don't don't.

686
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Know those subsequent generations the fruit never. Matures so you're

687
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:06.960
<v Speaker 2>sitting there, going, hey this is. COOL i got free

688
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:10.360
<v Speaker 2>tomatillos coming up from last. Year you wait all, Season

689
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:12.719
<v Speaker 2>august comes, around you, like go out there and you

690
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:15.960
<v Speaker 2>feel those, puffy little you, know. Puffs there's nothing in.

691
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:18.599
<v Speaker 2>There you're just, like what the heck just. Happened i've

692
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:23.039
<v Speaker 2>devoted space to this free tomatillo plant all season and

693
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:27.840
<v Speaker 2>it's not doing anything for. Me So i've had too

694
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:30.719
<v Speaker 2>much tomatio. Frustration so that's why it's going on as

695
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:34.159
<v Speaker 2>my vegetable THAT i hate growing but not. Eating that's.

696
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Great what weed do you hate the?

697
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Most it's a tie between broad, leaf, helleborine the weedy orchid.

698
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Ye and nuts. Edge, ooh nuts edge drives me. Crazy

699
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:49.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, What i'm gonna go a Little pollyanna on

700
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:51.079
<v Speaker 2>nutsedge and say that it's at least fun to.

701
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Pull it is fun to, pull, agreed agreed.

702
00:34:55.840 --> 00:35:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Therapeutic, yeah it's got like a, nice like. Satisfying now

703
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:02.039
<v Speaker 2>the problem, is of, course when you have a huge

704
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:03.280
<v Speaker 2>patch of it and then you're, Like i'm gonna be

705
00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:06.440
<v Speaker 2>here all. Day but, overall the weed THAT i hate

706
00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:09.360
<v Speaker 2>the most is just any grass, weed like any grass

707
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:11.519
<v Speaker 2>that's like from your lawn and coming into your. Beds,

708
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:14.800
<v Speaker 2>okay because you, know, really get back where you. Belong

709
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:17.159
<v Speaker 2>don't come in. Here this is for these plants that's

710
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:20.360
<v Speaker 2>for you stay, there especially runner. Grasses AND i don't

711
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:22.559
<v Speaker 2>know my grass is well enough to say which particular

712
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.079
<v Speaker 2>Culprit i'm thinking. OF i can picture, it because it's

713
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:25.840
<v Speaker 2>terrible one in my.

714
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:29.199
<v Speaker 1>GARDEN i think a lot of people would agree With bermuda,

715
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:32.599
<v Speaker 1>grass which has the above ground runners we Call stolen's,

716
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:35.599
<v Speaker 1>right and then of course quack, grass which has the.

717
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:37.239
<v Speaker 3>Underground rise a quack.

718
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Grass it's probably quack. Grass and by the, way programming,

719
00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:44.360
<v Speaker 1>note for, me a weed that really doesn't bother me

720
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:45.000
<v Speaker 1>is poison.

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00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:47.519
<v Speaker 3>Ivy oh, Really AND i think the fall color is.

722
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Spectacular it is quite a lovely fall, color BUT i

723
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:53.679
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't wish it on. ANYBODY i did almost put vine

724
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:57.320
<v Speaker 2>as a, category and partly because some of our listeners

725
00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:01.079
<v Speaker 2>did Say virginia creeper was a plant particularly, hate and

726
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:03.920
<v Speaker 2>trumpet vine also came. Up which, trumpetvine if you've had

727
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:06.239
<v Speaker 2>a good experience with, it you're probably, like how could

728
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:09.239
<v Speaker 2>someone say? That but if you've had a bad, experience you're,

729
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:11.199
<v Speaker 2>like mm, Hmm, YEAH i get, it because.

730
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:13.199
<v Speaker 1>You can like trumpet. Vine you just have to get

731
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:15.360
<v Speaker 1>rough with. It you have to show it it's who's.

732
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Boss you got to be willing to root print. It

733
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:19.599
<v Speaker 1>if you don't do, that, yeah it can kind of

734
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:20.159
<v Speaker 1>take over a.

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<v Speaker 2>House and, all speaking of, houses what is a tropical

736
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:25.760
<v Speaker 2>or houseplant that you? Hate?

737
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh for YEARS i was a tropical houseplant buyer for

738
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:31.679
<v Speaker 1>in the garden center, Industry so this one's easy for.

739
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Me cannot stand. Deefenbakia there's a reason they call it dumb.

740
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:41.039
<v Speaker 2>Cane, yes because if you bite, it it will make

741
00:36:41.079 --> 00:36:43.280
<v Speaker 2>your tongue. Swell and you can't make your tongue.

742
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Swell it doesn't ship, well it doesn't move.

743
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:48.679
<v Speaker 3>Well you put it near a.

744
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Window you even say cold weather near, it it will.

745
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:54.199
<v Speaker 1>WILT i don't like.

746
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:58.599
<v Speaker 2>Deefenbakia just you, know WHEN i was young and just

747
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:01.719
<v Speaker 2>getting into, PLANTS i pruned a different bakia to take

748
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:05.719
<v Speaker 2>cuttings and drop of sap splashed into my eye AND

749
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:08.280
<v Speaker 2>i had to go and have it irrigated in the

750
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:13.199
<v Speaker 2>in the. Er that was, fine but you, know so fun. Anyway, yeah, Uh,

751
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:15.639
<v Speaker 2>RICK i know you like this, plant BUT i am

752
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:19.960
<v Speaker 2>not a fan of. CROTON i love, crotons and you,

753
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:21.880
<v Speaker 2>KNOW i feel like WHEN i WHEN i was writing this,

754
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:25.679
<v Speaker 2>Down i'm thinking it goes back to my same distaste

755
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:29.360
<v Speaker 2>of whutunia because there is kind of some similarity in that,

756
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:31.679
<v Speaker 2>variegation like that red and yellow and dark.

757
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:32.719
<v Speaker 3>Green it's a mish.

758
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:34.920
<v Speaker 2>MASH i don't know it's it's just maybe it's like

759
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Too christmasy or something like. THAT i just not a.

760
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Fan but there's many different types of, croton so, yeah

761
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:43.159
<v Speaker 1>there Are i'm gonna work.

762
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:45.480
<v Speaker 2>On all, right all, RIGHT i, Mean I'm i'll keep

763
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:47.480
<v Speaker 2>an open. Mind i'll keep an open mind about almost

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<v Speaker 2>any of. This but barbary and agapodium mark not In

765
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Bradford paranora, maple no open mindedness happened in. There, okay,

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00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:57.360
<v Speaker 2>last but not, least a garden tool that you.

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00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Hate, NOW i know you expect me to say, ho

768
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:03.000
<v Speaker 1>BECAUSE i do not like. Hoses, HOWEVER i am going

769
00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:07.800
<v Speaker 1>to say riding. Lawnmowers they drive me. CRAZY i watch

770
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:11.800
<v Speaker 1>people on those things compacting their. Turf, NOW i, know

771
00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:14.760
<v Speaker 1>in some situations you have to have a riding, lawnmower

772
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:17.320
<v Speaker 1>but in some cases you see people out there spinning

773
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:20.320
<v Speaker 1>around the grass does not need to be cut because

774
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:23.679
<v Speaker 1>we need to raise the blade on the moor to get,

775
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:26.599
<v Speaker 1>good healthy, turf and they're out there scalping it with

776
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>a riding, lawnmower kicking up.

777
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:29.639
<v Speaker 3>All kinds of dust and.

778
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Debris i've got a neighbor that loves his riding. Lawnmower

779
00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:37.239
<v Speaker 1>he rides that thing twice a, day whether the lawn

780
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:37.880
<v Speaker 1>needs it or.

781
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:39.599
<v Speaker 3>Not and of course the lawn doesn't need.

782
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:42.559
<v Speaker 1>It And i'm trying to sit there peacefully at my

783
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:44.760
<v Speaker 1>house and boom that.

784
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Lawnmower, oh it drives me. Nuts So i'm going to

785
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:47.960
<v Speaker 3>say riding. Lawnmower.

786
00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Wow do people who love riding their riding lawnmowers know

787
00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.239
<v Speaker 2>that you usually can ride them without.

788
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Mowing you would think because when they turn.

789
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:03.039
<v Speaker 2>IT i get that it's fun for people like. That

790
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:05.800
<v Speaker 2>could see a lot of you, know grown ups being,

791
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:08.159
<v Speaker 2>like this is my childhood fantasy come true And i'm

792
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:10.480
<v Speaker 2>just going to like ride around on my you know.

793
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:13.039
<v Speaker 2>Toy but that doesn't mean that you have to mow

794
00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:14.960
<v Speaker 2>like you can just be out there with your headphones

795
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:18.119
<v Speaker 2>and your high school beverage and enjoying your investment in your.

796
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:19.079
<v Speaker 2>Writing well that's the.

797
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:21.920
<v Speaker 1>THING i have friends, who, yes have the cup, holder

798
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:25.800
<v Speaker 1>and they use that as the occasion to enjoy a nice.

799
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:29.159
<v Speaker 1>Beverage and, yeah but for me riding.

800
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:32.239
<v Speaker 2>All, Right, WELL i am going to say hoses because

801
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:35.440
<v Speaker 2>as important as they, are they're just. Frustrating AND i

802
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:37.960
<v Speaker 2>don't think there's a gardener alive who has just not

803
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:41.199
<v Speaker 2>had at least one negative experience with a hose where

804
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:43.679
<v Speaker 2>he just wanted to rip it out and throw it.

805
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Right oh, yeah we've all been.

806
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:49.559
<v Speaker 1>There, YEAH i use hoses in my comedy.

807
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Routine you're preaching to the.

808
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Choir so some of the listener least favorite hated plants

809
00:39:56.920 --> 00:39:59.800
<v Speaker 2>that we did not, Discuss it didn't come up for.

810
00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:03.639
<v Speaker 2>Us two that really stuck out to me very interestingly

811
00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:08.840
<v Speaker 2>are very regional, invasives because WHEN i read, THESE i was, like, oh,

812
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:13.559
<v Speaker 2>huh so one was creeping bellflower companila or, Punkiloides and,

813
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:16.480
<v Speaker 2>yeah that is super invasive in the Upper midwest Like,

814
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Minneapolis minnesota And. Wisconsin what a garbage looking. Plant it's just.

815
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Horrible so sorry for anyone who's contending with.

816
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:26.840
<v Speaker 3>That do you feel?

817
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.039
<v Speaker 2>WELL i was just, like, Ugh and THEN i do

818
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:31.760
<v Speaker 2>feel Like i've seen this and tried to pull up,

819
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:33.679
<v Speaker 2>before and it's just a horrible plant to try to.

820
00:40:33.719 --> 00:40:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Pull like you, know a plant that's easy to pull

821
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:38.559
<v Speaker 2>can kind, of you, know redeem itself a little bit

822
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:42.000
<v Speaker 2>by by being easy to. Pull the other One dier's woad.

823
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Yea AND i saw this and as someone who enjoys

824
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:48.719
<v Speaker 2>fiber arts and growing, HERBS i, thought, hm what's that all?

825
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:51.679
<v Speaker 2>About and this is a, horrible horrible invasive out. WEST

826
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:55.039
<v Speaker 2>I satus, tinctoria which was actually a very important plant

827
00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:59.920
<v Speaker 2>in dying but is now just a, tremendous tremendously noxious

828
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:03.199
<v Speaker 2>weed in The, southwest and it's out.

829
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:07.360
<v Speaker 1>West it's an awful weed and it has a, well

830
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:10.199
<v Speaker 1>a characteristic of many plants that we, hate and that

831
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:12.000
<v Speaker 1>is it's a lellopathic.

832
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Yep prevents other plants from growing.

833
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:17.159
<v Speaker 1>Around, yeah so it has the reputation like spotted napweed.

834
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<v Speaker 2>Yep so also burning bush came. Up not surprising, there

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<v Speaker 2>winter creeper, vine, Honeysuckle LIKE i, said trumpet, vine you

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<v Speaker 2>had a petunia's counterpart to your caliber CoA dislike, potentilla

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<v Speaker 2>which you, KNOW i get a lot of potentilla's are

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<v Speaker 2>very ho. Hum we try to do a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>better here at proven owner's color choice. Shrubs but you,

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<v Speaker 2>KNOW i get it you had a bad experience back

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<v Speaker 2>in the. Day you're just, Like i'm not planting that.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing another vote for a juga here Ye english ivy of,

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<v Speaker 2>Course and we talked about that a few weeks ago

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<v Speaker 2>and how some people here in The midwest are, like,

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh ivy's so elegant and we don't tend to have

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<v Speaker 2>a huge issue with, it whereas if you go out,

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<v Speaker 2>west it's just an absolute Night mari We.

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<v Speaker 1>JACE I i'm seeing hardy leadwart, plumbago and that's an,

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<v Speaker 1>aggressive non native.

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<v Speaker 3>GROUNDCOVER i would.

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<v Speaker 2>Agree, Yeah so it's interesting that so many of these

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<v Speaker 2>were are plants that are genuinely invasive and kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like the same experience THAT i had describing, barbary you

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<v Speaker 2>know way out At Moskiden State. Park just plants to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of ruin our experience of. Nature so whether we're

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<v Speaker 2>a gardener or a nature, lover when a plant disrupts that,

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<v Speaker 2>experience you can't can't blame you for adding it to

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<v Speaker 2>your hate.

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<v Speaker 1>List, yeah although with steria on this list, too and

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<v Speaker 1>of course bamboo with steria another one like trumpet, vine

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<v Speaker 1>you got to show it whose boss do a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of riot. Printing and Then, stacy your favorite Dwarf

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<v Speaker 1>alberta spruces are on here.

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<v Speaker 2>Too two thumbs. Down not going to get my hate,

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<v Speaker 2>list but certainly not ever going to be. Planted so

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<v Speaker 2>with that, note we hope you enjoyed our. Conversation we

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<v Speaker 2>hope we didn't offend, you but if we, did let

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<v Speaker 2>us know and tell us what plant we named that you,

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<v Speaker 2>hate because turnabout is fair. Play so thank you so, Much,

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<v Speaker 2>rick thank You, adriana and thanks so much to all

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<v Speaker 2>of you for listening and putting up with our rants at.

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<v Speaker 2>Raves we hope you have a wonderful week. Ahead