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Speaker 4: It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WAZ Boston's New Radio.
Speaker 5: Are going to change topics here, and this is one
Speaker 5: that is real interest to me, and I hope it's
Speaker 5: of interest to you. For those of you who were
Speaker 5: alive when President Kennedy was assassinated on November twenty second,
Speaker 5: nineteen sixty three, at about twelve thirty in the afternoon
Speaker 5: in Dallas, Texas. That has been I think the defining
Speaker 5: moment of the Baby Boom generation. I think that the
Speaker 5: world for all of us change that day in ways
Speaker 5: which we could never have anticipated. Shortly after President Kennedy
Speaker 5: was assassinated, his brother was assassinated in nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 5: He had just won the California Democratic primary. He was
Speaker 5: probably on the way to becoming the DEMOCRATICEE. Lyndon Johnson
Speaker 5: had dropped out of the race as president. Lyndon Johnson
Speaker 5: had been John Kennedy's vice president and went on to
Speaker 5: a big victory in nineteen sixty four, largely on the
Speaker 5: I think the fact that the people hoped that the
Speaker 5: Kennedy that Johnson would finish the agenda of the Kennedy.
Speaker 5: Johnson campaign ticket, if you will, and then if that
Speaker 5: wasn't enough to shock the nation in the middle of
Speaker 5: all the tumult of the Vietnam War and civil rights experience,
Speaker 5: Martin Luther King in April of nineteen sixty eight. Actually,
Speaker 5: you know, before Bobby Kennedy a couple of months before,
Speaker 5: was shot to death in Memphis, Tennessee. He was down
Speaker 5: there demonstrating in favor of trash collectors sanitation workers who
Speaker 5: were on strike in Memphis, Tennessee. So, Donald Trump, amongst
Speaker 5: his executive orders, the one that I'm most interested in, frankly,
Speaker 5: and one that I would hope everyone would be interested in.
Speaker 5: He signed that order earlier last week. Rob. This is
Speaker 5: cut twenty seven. This is President Trump in the Oval
Speaker 5: Office signing the order to declassify the JFK, RFK and
Speaker 5: MLK assassination files.
Speaker 3: Lastly, sir, we have an executive order ordering the declassification
Speaker 3: of files relating to the assassinations the President John F. Kennedy,
Speaker 3: Senator Robert F. Kennedy, and the Reverend doctor Martin Luther
Speaker 3: King Junior.
Speaker 5: It's a big one, huh. Other people are waiting for
Speaker 5: this for along, for years, for decades, and everything will
Speaker 5: be revealed. Okay, lastly, sir, we have well, we would
Speaker 5: hope that everything would be revealed. But I want to
Speaker 5: give credit to Donald Trump. First of all, he would
Speaker 5: have been in nineteen sixty three, I think seventeen years old,
Speaker 5: so he's of that baby boomer generation that had an
Speaker 5: imprint on their lives. And this is the whole question
Speaker 5: of the Lee Harvey Oswald. And again, some of you,
Speaker 5: I'm sure who were not baby boomers might be listening tonight.
Speaker 5: I'd be happy to answer questions because this is something
Speaker 5: that I have studied. I went to Dallas, Texas on
Speaker 5: the fifteenth anniversary of the Kennedy assassination in nineteen seventy
Speaker 5: eight as a television reporter. I returned to nineteen eighty
Speaker 5: three on the twentieth anniversary of the Kennedy assassination. I
Speaker 5: had a chance to talk to many of the people
Speaker 5: who were involved, not in the assassination, but in the
Speaker 5: aftermath of the assassination. Nurses from Parkland Hospital, the sheriff
Speaker 5: who was literally hooked with the had Lee Harvey Oswald's
Speaker 5: arm hook. He was holding Oswald when Oswald was shot
Speaker 5: by Jack Ruby. I have beliefs I did never believed
Speaker 5: the Warren Commission. Mark Lane wrote a book called Rush
Speaker 5: to Judgment, which I think stands up pretty well to
Speaker 5: this day. Oliver Stone, the movie producer, did the movie JFK.
Speaker 5: It has been an issue of obviously the world changed,
Speaker 5: the world changed for entire nation that one moment in time,
Speaker 5: and we still don't know. The Warren Commission I think
Speaker 5: was a whitewashed. The assassination occurred in November of sixty three.
Speaker 5: The Warren Commission came out with their results in nineteen
Speaker 5: in September of nineteen sixty four, saying that Oswald was
Speaker 5: clearly the single only assassin. I mean, his background had
Speaker 5: been a US Marine defected to the then Soviet Union.
Speaker 5: Questions about whether he visited the Cuban embassy in September
Speaker 5: of that year in Mexico City, then he was supposedly
Speaker 5: demonstrating in New Orleans. I mean it was the stuff
Speaker 5: of a spy novel. Robert F. Kennedy assassinated by sea
Speaker 5: him Pisa Han. He was happened to be in the kitchen,
Speaker 5: working in the kitchen of the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles,
Speaker 5: and Bobby Kennedy was walked through the kitchen of that
Speaker 5: hotel by secret service. I'm not implying anything, but it
Speaker 5: just so happened that he was walked through a kitchen
Speaker 5: than five years after his brother had been assassinated four
Speaker 5: and a half years. Wasn't even four and a half
Speaker 5: years that his brother had well, I guess it was
Speaker 5: four and a half years that his brother had been assassinated,
Speaker 5: and this guy had a gun and shot him. The
Speaker 5: gun was pride from his hands by Rayful Johnson Great
Speaker 5: the Great Olympian and Roosevelt, who have been an offensive
Speaker 5: lineman for the New York Football Giants back in the
Speaker 5: in the early sixties. You know two friends of Bobby
Speaker 5: Kennedy who in effect were his bodyguards. I'm not even
Speaker 5: sure if he had secret service. I'd have to go
Speaker 5: back and check that. And then Martin Luther King shot
Speaker 5: to death in the balcony of a Memphis hotel. How
Speaker 5: did the shooter know where to be, what room King
Speaker 5: would be in, when King would come out on the balcony.
Speaker 5: There's all sorts of information that I had read. I'm
Speaker 5: not sure how much of it is true or not
Speaker 5: that before the assassination James Earl Ray had traveled in Europe.
Speaker 5: Who did he meet with? Was this an assassination that
Speaker 5: was designed by a foreign power to cause, you know,
Speaker 5: disruption and riots in America? So you bet? I want
Speaker 5: all that. So I want to hear from you. How
Speaker 5: much credit do you want to give Donald Trump for
Speaker 5: signing this executive order. I have no idea if documents
Speaker 5: have been destroyed, I have no idea what new we're
Speaker 5: going to learn. But I want to see and I
Speaker 5: want people who can study this honestly look at it
Speaker 5: and whatever it shows, the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Speaker 5: And there's probably not much good that's going to come
Speaker 5: out of this other than obviously the truth. Hopefully there's
Speaker 5: a lot going to be a lot of bad, and
Speaker 5: maybe some of it be ugly. Let's find out. There
Speaker 5: have been all sorts of rumors and speculations, all of
Speaker 5: which have simply divided the country. The people said, well,
Speaker 5: Linda Johnson had to be involved in it. I'm not
Speaker 5: sure Lindon Johnson was involved in it. I don't know,
Speaker 5: but he stood to. He became president that afternoon, sworn
Speaker 5: in by the federal Judge Sarah Hughes. On the plane
Speaker 5: flying back to Washington, with the president's body in the casket.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's unimaginable for people who were not alive
Speaker 5: and of the age of ten at that time to
Speaker 5: understand the trauma in the country. I say hats off
Speaker 5: to Donald Trump, and I'm hoping that I'm going to
Speaker 5: hear from some Democrats on this one. I don't know
Speaker 5: that I will, but I really hope that we can
Speaker 5: get a consensus that it will be good for this country.
Speaker 5: And when we come back, I'm going to talk about
Speaker 5: what I have found to be a complete irony, complete irony.
Speaker 5: I will explain what I'm talking about, and I'll bet
Speaker 5: you many of you will agree with me. Six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 5: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three, one ten thirty.
Speaker 5: Hats off to Donald Trump. Some of the stuff he's
Speaker 5: done has been controversial. I know that Democrats are going
Speaker 5: to be driven crazy in the next four years, uh
Speaker 5: and I'm sure that that there'll be lots of criticism
Speaker 5: leveled at him. I criticized him the other night wanting
Speaker 5: to see more transparency on the ice rays around the country.
Speaker 5: I welcome this transparency in the assassinations. I hope you
Speaker 5: do as well. If you have a brain. You have
Speaker 5: to welcome this. This stuff has remained hidden far too
Speaker 5: long in a country that prides itself on being an
Speaker 5: open democracy. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty
Speaker 5: six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. I could
Speaker 5: talk about this till midnight. Don't let me join the conversation.
Speaker 4: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 4: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 5: I will expanded this later, but because I want to
Speaker 5: go to phone calls, but very quickly. Back in the
Speaker 5: nineteen sixties, it was the American left, the liberals who
Speaker 5: were suspicious of government, and rightfully so. They didn't trust Dixon. Uh,
Speaker 5: they didn't trust the Supreme Court, they didn't trust the
Speaker 5: and you had it. I mean Mark Lane rushed to
Speaker 5: Judge Oliverstone JFK. The Conservatives back then, Oh, Jay go
Speaker 5: Hoover was a wonderful man. Uh, Cia, they were the best.
Speaker 5: They were the best. The fact that they were overthrowing
Speaker 5: other countries around the world and screwing things up. There
Speaker 5: was no no conservatives, no criticism of the right. Now
Speaker 5: it's just the opposite. The people who don't trust the
Speaker 5: government are the Trump conservatives or the mega Republicans and
Speaker 5: it's the Democrats. I don't think a lot of Democrats
Speaker 5: want these files to be opened up. I think their
Speaker 5: attitude is I was talking with someone the other day
Speaker 5: who said, well, why are they opening up these files?
Speaker 5: Is it because we want to know the truth? The
Speaker 5: truth will set us free? Do any does anyone else
Speaker 5: understand that irony? I hope so Joe is in Boston.
Speaker 5: I know Joe probably understands that irony.
Speaker 6: How are you, Joe, really that I'm loving every second
Speaker 6: of it, Thank you.
Speaker 5: I want to know who was involved, and I don't
Speaker 5: care if they're alive or dead.
Speaker 6: I want to know who they were exactly.
Speaker 7: I don't care.
Speaker 6: I mean, they might want to protect promedies that are
Speaker 6: you know, alive and well doing this. You know, they
Speaker 6: hear one another their grandfather or their uncle did the
Speaker 6: things or was involving it. Let it out, Let it out.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm loving every minute of Donald Trump.
Speaker 7: I gotta tell you, well, the truth set us free.
Speaker 5: The tril set us free.
Speaker 8: Here.
Speaker 5: You know, there were a lot of presidents who said
Speaker 5: we need to get I remember when the set when
Speaker 5: the warrant commission was filed, Joe, they said well, we'll
Speaker 5: never know the full story for seventy five years. And
Speaker 5: the argument was at that time, and I stand to
Speaker 5: be corrected, but I know I'm not. I know I'm correct.
Speaker 5: They said, well, we don't want to We want to
Speaker 5: spare the Kennedy family the details. And we want to
Speaker 5: spare Jackie Kennedy, she's not dead, and we want to
Speaker 5: spare his children the details.
Speaker 7: Okay, they all did.
Speaker 6: I just saw the daughter jack and Kennedy's even going
Speaker 6: nuts up to her cousin.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she called him a predator, but that's a that's
Speaker 5: a strange word. That's a strange word. She could call
Speaker 5: him a nut job, she could call him, but a predator,
Speaker 5: that's a weird word phrase.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that he has that he takes, you know, animals
Speaker 6: and put him on a blender for his animals, you know.
Speaker 9: And about going through the basement with drugs. I mean, okay, okay,
Speaker 9: we're counting them even second join this guy has I
Speaker 9: probably trust him more than anybody else because he's been
Speaker 9: through things, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know what.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 5: He obviously is the black what did we know? He's
Speaker 5: the black sheep of the family.
Speaker 6: That help me here. Uh, Joe Kennedy, the patriarch. He
Speaker 6: was the first person in charge of the FCC.
Speaker 5: Right, I'm sorry, you said Joe Kennedy, who was President
Speaker 5: Kennedy's father and whose name sake son, his namesake son,
Speaker 5: Joseph Kennedy if it was killed during World War Two.
Speaker 5: He was an Air Force pilot.
Speaker 6: Yeah, or their father was in charge, the first one
Speaker 6: in charge of the FCC, right.
Speaker 7: Or the freend.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 5: He was an ambassador to the to the Court of
Speaker 5: Saint James, to England. But I never knew, and you
Speaker 5: might be right, maybe he don't.
Speaker 10: I know who was the president at the time, Rose,
Speaker 10: president of the Titan, named him to that position because
Speaker 10: he said that in order to protect you know, you
Speaker 10: have to get somebody who already who already knows about
Speaker 10: the tree on the back doors. Because he was a
Speaker 10: boot lagger, and that's why he was food in charge
Speaker 10: of Dad.
Speaker 11: Okay, I'm looking it.
Speaker 5: Up right, I'm looking at up right now. And and
Speaker 5: you think he was in charge of the f CEC,
Speaker 5: the Federal Communications Commission.
Speaker 12: Yes, let me see the the one that overseas stuck exchange,
Speaker 12: the EC.
Speaker 5: Okay of the stockulary SEC. I'm sorry, okay, right, Security
Speaker 5: and Exchange Commission SEC. Okay, let me you know again,
Speaker 5: you might be right on that because he was a businessman.
Speaker 6: There wasn't saying you know that in order to know
Speaker 6: what the thief does, you have to put a thief
Speaker 6: that knows going ready, you know, the tricks of the
Speaker 6: trade in order.
Speaker 7: To know what's going on.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, you know, I've been going to put.
Speaker 6: A little while on this call. But however, I'm loving
Speaker 6: all of these Trump stuff. I mean with the immigrants
Speaker 6: by the way.
Speaker 5: By the way, my friend, Joe, you are absolutely correct.
Speaker 5: He was the SEC chairman from nineteen thirty four to
Speaker 5: nineteen thirty five.
Speaker 6: Hey, who wasn't president at the time, Dan that.
Speaker 5: Franklin Roosevelt him, Franklin Roosevelt Roosevelt.
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he was a very powerful guy. In nineteen
Speaker 5: thirty four, Congress established he was the first head of
Speaker 5: the SEC to end irresponsible market manipulations and dissemination of
Speaker 5: false information about securities. Yeah, you do that, We got Joe.
Speaker 5: You're the best man, You're the best.
Speaker 11: Loved this.
Speaker 6: No, there's another another team man that I mean, I'm
Speaker 6: enjoying this so much because Trump got nothing to loose
Speaker 6: right now. He's not looking for really let his hair down,
Speaker 6: and he's delivering everything that he says that he was
Speaker 6: going to do. It's not that he said something else.
Speaker 6: And you know he's coming with well he say is
Speaker 6: his stuff that he's trying to deliver. And I love
Speaker 6: that he's putting young people like on every place, you know,
Speaker 6: all these people on their.
Speaker 5: Much His cabinet is much younger in many respects than
Speaker 5: any other Republican cabinet that that we could imagine. But
Speaker 5: let's let's keep did like come in whatever seem like
Speaker 5: is the greatest disinfected with you and I know that
Speaker 5: so well, Thank you, my friend. We will talk to you. Okay,
Speaker 5: I gotta scoot.
Speaker 6: I got a little one for you. You're gonna hear
Speaker 6: on February eleven.
Speaker 12: You're gonna hear a lot about patholes in the Washington
Speaker 12: when uh Michelle Will goes in front of the.
Speaker 6: Senate, those words about pot holes. They got to bring
Speaker 6: it to her. Carmer and Kennedy, those those congressmen, they're
Speaker 6: going to bring that out to her watch.
Speaker 5: I don't know what I'm not familiar Joe, I'm not
Speaker 5: familiar with the word. You're you're pronouncing what is the
Speaker 5: word again?
Speaker 6: Pot holes? That Michelle Willi said, you know that, we
Speaker 6: know when we filled the potholes for the feather potholes.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, potholes. Okay, fine, you
Speaker 5: got it right. Okay, that's yeah, Okay, I'll look forward
Speaker 5: to it.
Speaker 6: Thanks, call you all right, Thank you having that night.
Speaker 5: Thanks Joe, talk to you later. Bye bye, Okay, let's
Speaker 5: keep going. Bethany is in Gloucester. Bethany, want to get
Speaker 5: you in here before the news at the bottom of
Speaker 5: the hour. Thanks for calling, Bethany.
Speaker 13: Yes, Hi, thank you for taking my call. So you
Speaker 13: are wondering if it's like kudos to President Trump, and
Speaker 13: I will say that you and I I think kind
Speaker 13: of have the same feeling about this. You know, I'm
Speaker 13: the big Irish Catholic family girl. You know, we had
Speaker 13: you know, Jesus, the Pope and Kennedy and hanging on
Speaker 13: our walls a whole bit. So I think for you
Speaker 13: and I and people like us, maybe it's it's sensational
Speaker 13: for us to know this because he was a part
Speaker 13: of our life. But I feel like for Trump this
Speaker 13: is just you know, he was a reality TV star.
Speaker 13: That's kind of the way I look at it. He wants,
Speaker 13: he wants to get the credit for this, and I think,
Speaker 13: and that's not a bad thing, to be honest with you.
Speaker 13: I mean, good can come out of it. I don't
Speaker 13: say that's the negative thing. I just think that he's
Speaker 13: not doing it for sort of a patriotic kind of Oh,
Speaker 13: let's let's get the history on this and let's I
Speaker 13: don't think I think he's doing it just to be
Speaker 13: the guy that got the news.
Speaker 5: I don't really care why he's doing it. I just
Speaker 5: think that it's great that someone's doing it. I wish that,
Speaker 5: you know, Ronald Reagan had done it. I wish Bill
Speaker 5: Clinton had done it. You know Bill Clinton when he
Speaker 5: was president. Uh is that famous photograph that he he
Speaker 5: actually met President Kennedy on the White House lawn as
Speaker 5: a young boy, as a teenager before Kennedy was assassinated.
Speaker 5: And I thought that, well, maybe Clinton would would do it.
Speaker 5: I didn't think the Bushes would do it, because you know,
Speaker 5: they were all tied in with the C I A
Speaker 5: and all of that. And I think Trump is just
Speaker 5: a different sort of breed of cat. And I want
Speaker 5: to know. I want to know when you killed Kennedy
Speaker 5: and why was he killed? Who killed doctor King? Why
Speaker 5: was he?
Speaker 13: You and I I think we're going to benefit from
Speaker 13: it because you know, it's kids, you know, I mean,
Speaker 13: because it didn't change our world. You said it it
Speaker 13: rocked our world. It changed our world, and it did
Speaker 13: you know, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, But and you're right,
Speaker 13: and I and I do often wonder, and I have
Speaker 13: wondered over the years why you know, the truth, if
Speaker 13: you will hasn't come out. And I, you know, honestly,
Speaker 13: I think, you know, I was just thought, well, let
Speaker 13: sleeping dogs lie, you know, for whatever reason it maybe
Speaker 13: it's maybe we don't need to know this. So I
Speaker 13: do think it's going to be perhaps something special to
Speaker 13: know about if there is any any stories at all,
Speaker 13: we don't even really know. But I feel like, again,
Speaker 13: like you said, you don't care why he's doing it,
Speaker 13: which is which is a good point, that's very fair.
Speaker 13: But I think he's just doing it because, let's face it,
Speaker 13: you know, he's you know, he just wants to be
Speaker 13: the guy that does everything first and then back.
Speaker 5: Let me let me ask you this since since we're
Speaker 5: of the same vintage, do you agree with me that
Speaker 5: back in the day, when you and I were really young,
Speaker 5: in our twenties whatever, that it was the left who
Speaker 5: was suspicious of government. It was the left who had
Speaker 5: the you know, bumper strips, don't trust anyone over forty
Speaker 5: and all of that sort of stuff. And it was
Speaker 5: the right back in the day, the Conservatives, the Republicans
Speaker 5: who were saying, oh Jae Go Hoover, what a great man,
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, this I a they can do no wrong.
Speaker 5: And now it's switched completely. It's the mega Republicans who
Speaker 5: don't trust the government, and it's the Democrats who are
Speaker 5: trying to hold on Trump. It's just I love irony.
Speaker 5: It just as if the whole world has flipped.
Speaker 13: Oh it's it's flipped, it certainly. But I don't know,
Speaker 13: I mean, do you really think that that Do you
Speaker 13: think that sort of the mega party is Do you
Speaker 13: think there's a suspicious ones or do you think I
Speaker 13: don't know. I almost feel like that could be.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 13: They just want to see things go back to the way.
Speaker 5: No, well, no, I think when they talk about the
Speaker 5: deep state and all of that, you don't have to
Speaker 5: buy into that. But when you look at a lot
Speaker 5: of the people who were working for the FBI. I
Speaker 5: dealt with the FBI in the Salvadi LOLONEI case back
Speaker 5: in the nineties, and that sure changed my view of
Speaker 5: of law enforcement and law enforcement that that was corrupt.
Speaker 5: And I mean that seriously. I'm bearing my soul.
Speaker 13: To you, and I tell you, yes, sure you know,
Speaker 13: and that doesn't mean that all.
Speaker 5: Most FBI agents, like most police officers, try to do
Speaker 5: the right thing. They make mistakes, but they try to
Speaker 5: do the right thing. But there were Look, you know
Speaker 5: the cop, the cop in Minneapolis who who kept his
Speaker 5: his knee on the neck of George Floyd for eleven minutes.
Speaker 5: I don't want that guy ever to see the light
Speaker 5: of day. Okay, I know, And yeah, So all I'm
Speaker 5: just saying is I want to know the truth. I
Speaker 5: want to know the truth because guess what, I'm old enough.
Speaker 5: I don't want to die not knowing the truth.
Speaker 13: I know well, and to be honest with you, I
Speaker 13: do too good for you. I think I wish my
Speaker 13: parents were alied, because I'm sure they probably wanted to
Speaker 13: know too. But it's just, you know, It's just what
Speaker 13: I'm answering to is, you know, how do you feel
Speaker 13: about Trump? And I'm thinking, well, I get Trump.
Speaker 5: I don't care if it was I don't care if
Speaker 5: it was Bill Clinton or Barack Obama. They all said
Speaker 5: they were going to try to do something. He's the
Speaker 5: first one that's done it.
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, Well, you know what, and that's probably the
Speaker 13: very reason that you know that he chose who he
Speaker 13: chose who, you know, who wanted Another note, and I
Speaker 13: won't get into it. I certainly don't think he should,
Speaker 13: but you know, because but but you know what, he
Speaker 13: he does have ideas, that's for sure.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 5: The the other thing, too is I don't know if
Speaker 5: you saw the movie Hoover with Leonardo DiCaprio, but I
Speaker 5: knew this a long time ago. Hoover was totally corrupt
Speaker 5: and Hoover the FBI.
Speaker 13: Yes, I'm sorry, yes.
Speaker 5: Okay, Jaco Hoover. He had information on every member of Congress.
Speaker 5: He blackmailed members of Congress. So some member of Congress
Speaker 5: was having a dalliance with his secretary, Hoover knew about it,
Speaker 5: and and therefore he would keep that. He would hang
Speaker 5: that over the head of that members of Congress, and
Speaker 5: in those days, there was a lot of that was
Speaker 5: going on. It's probably still going on these days. But
Speaker 5: Trump has survived all of this. They've they've indicted him,
Speaker 5: they've impeached him. His attitude probably is, they can't do
Speaker 5: anything more to me. So I wonder if they were
Speaker 5: past presidents who maybe wanted to get the JFK, the
Speaker 5: r f K, and the m l K stuff out
Speaker 5: and and someone said, you know, mister president, the FBI
Speaker 5: is aware that that ten years ago you did this
Speaker 5: or you did that, and you wouldn't want that to
Speaker 5: come out publicly, would you, mister president?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: And maybe some presidents, and I don't know which ones,
Speaker 5: might have said, well, on second thought, I think you
Speaker 5: may have a point, right, but Trump, what are they
Speaker 5: gonna what are they gonna hit? What are they gonna play?
Speaker 13: Make a point?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 11: Yeah, Bethany, I love.
Speaker 5: I loved your call. I hope you continue to call
Speaker 5: this program. Have you called before?
Speaker 13: I did I before?
Speaker 14: Yes, we'll do me a favor, come on back more often.
Speaker 14: You were a great I sure you weren't a good
Speaker 14: call so much, you were a great caller. And if
Speaker 14: I ever met you, I think that we would be
Speaker 14: able to share stories. Uh, and I think that we
Speaker 14: see the world in a in a very similar way,
Speaker 14: even though we do too.
Speaker 13: I love listening to you, so thank you for your program.
Speaker 5: Thanks Bethany, I appreciate it so much. We'll talk again.
Speaker 13: A good night, Thanks, good night.
Speaker 5: We'll take a break. Here's the news. We're on fire
Speaker 5: right now. Let's keep it rolling. Six one, seven thirty.
Speaker 5: Do you want to know the truth? Can you handle
Speaker 5: the truth? I can handle the truth. I want the truth.
Speaker 4: It's Night with Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 5: We're going right back to the phone. It's gonna go
Speaker 5: to Eileen and Cambridge. Eileen, do you want the truth
Speaker 5: or do you want to or not?
Speaker 15: I absolutely want the truth. And I think we should
Speaker 15: have had the truth many many many years ago.
Speaker 5: Decades and yeah, yes.
Speaker 13: Decades ago, and I am.
Speaker 15: I have to give credit to Donald Trump for initiating this.
Speaker 15: I think a lot of us have had questions, questions, questions.
Speaker 15: My husband used to have a big bumper sticker on
Speaker 15: the back of our VW van question authority.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I remember those absolutely. And guess what now
Speaker 5: it's the Republicans, the conservatives are questioning authority. Well, the
Speaker 5: other thing too, that I forgot to mention to Bethany,
Speaker 5: I'd love to know what you think about this. Trump
Speaker 5: survived an assassination attempt, actually two. I wonder if that
Speaker 5: has has has given him the backbone to say it
Speaker 5: could have happened to me. I mean, if his head
Speaker 5: was six inches in another direction, he wouldn't have he
Speaker 5: wouldn't have survived the campaign.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 15: It's still very worrisome to me because I I hope
Speaker 15: that Donald Trump is very very well protected.
Speaker 5: Because we do, we always want all of our presidents
Speaker 5: to be protected. But look, Ronald Reagan was shot, you know,
Speaker 5: President Kennedy was killed. Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King. They
Speaker 5: weren't presidents, Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King weren't. But
Speaker 5: they were people in this country who were who were
Speaker 5: loyal to them. And when they were killed, they were
Speaker 5: taken away, they were they were eliminated. Hopes and dreams
Speaker 5: and aspirations of people died along with them. The pe
Speaker 5: was changed, and not necessarily for the better. Let's get
Speaker 5: the the whole truth.
Speaker 13: The country truth.
Speaker 15: Thank you, thank you, thank.
Speaker 5: You than reminding me of the bumper strips question. Authority.
Speaker 13: It definitely be well, be well.
Speaker 5: Okay, we'll talk soon.
Speaker 15: Thanks Sam, yep bye, Thanks so much.
Speaker 5: Steve is in Merrimack, New Hampshire. Steve, do you want
Speaker 5: the truth? Can you handle the truth?
Speaker 7: I can always handle the truth. I think that you
Speaker 7: know a couple of things that I was while you
Speaker 7: were speaking with other callers that you know memory Well.
Speaker 7: First of all, I was eight years old. I was
Speaker 7: in third grade hand over in elementary school, so I
Speaker 7: wasn't quite that old, but I remember, however, how serious
Speaker 7: everybody was. But there were events that occurred before the
Speaker 7: assassination that probably people would question, including the Cuban missile crisis,
Speaker 7: as you recall in October of nineteen sixty two, that
Speaker 7: really got the Russians really mad. And obviously Oswald he
Speaker 7: went over to Russia, he married a Russian. There's a
Speaker 7: lot of questions at that point that I thought made
Speaker 7: you know, there were a lot of questions on you know,
Speaker 7: who is, how loyalties.
Speaker 5: Were at well, you know, I actually at that time
Speaker 5: and I was just a little older than you. But
Speaker 5: as I got older, I thought to myself, well, maybe
Speaker 5: I looked at at Oswald and I thought, okay, well,
Speaker 5: maybe he was the one shooter, and maybe they were
Speaker 5: afraid that if they let it out that the Russians
Speaker 5: had killed Kennedy, that it would have started World War three.
Speaker 7: But I don't believe. I don't believe that I would
Speaker 7: have caused a big problem. I'll tell you that, because
Speaker 7: you know, there was in the heart of the Cold War.
Speaker 7: Everybody was at each other's throats at that time, and
Speaker 7: it only took one little spark to ye.
Speaker 5: But here's the thing. Here's the thing about that historically,
Speaker 5: and I'm not a historian, if I'm in an amateur historian.
Speaker 5: Do you know that the Russians took the missiles out
Speaker 5: of Cuba? Do you know that we took our missiles
Speaker 5: out of Turkey?
Speaker 7: Yeah? That was the deal.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the deal. So so basically, the Russians
Speaker 5: might have looked at that and said, hey, look, you
Speaker 5: know we had these Russia the same issue today by
Speaker 5: the way, with Russia, of course it was the Soviet Union.
Speaker 5: Then is that Putin is saying, look, you people box
Speaker 5: us in here. You know, you took over you know,
Speaker 5: we used to run eastern Europe and that was our buffer,
Speaker 5: and now all those countries are fit are members of NATO.
Speaker 5: So it's the same argument today that probably was in
Speaker 5: place in Krushchev's mind in sixty two, that Okay, what
Speaker 5: can we do to get those missiles, those US missiles
Speaker 5: out of Turkey? So maybe maybe Khrushchev was happy with
Speaker 5: the results. I still think it was organized crime that
Speaker 5: got Kennedy.
Speaker 7: Else, you know, things as far as what happened during
Speaker 7: the assassination. You know, how many in this day and
Speaker 7: age in the you know, in twenty twenty five, how
Speaker 7: many roots of the presidential you know, mortarcade would you
Speaker 7: ever publish if in this day and age it will
Speaker 7: never happen again. You never have an open car, uh,
Speaker 7: and you'd never have a guy that could buy a
Speaker 7: gun with a mail order for fourteen I think it
Speaker 7: was like fourteen dollars or something he spent from that
Speaker 7: gun he ordered the gun mail order that killed the
Speaker 7: president of the United States.
Speaker 5: Assuming, assuming that that was the gun that that that
Speaker 5: delivered the kill shot. I still think there was someone
Speaker 5: up on the Grassy noise.
Speaker 7: See, well, there was a lot of questions about the
Speaker 7: Grassy noise.
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this, Dave. You ever been a
Speaker 5: daily plaza no, But I read about it. I've been
Speaker 5: there twice. I was there in seventy eight and I
Speaker 5: was there in eighty three. I talked to people. I
Speaker 5: talked to John Connolly. I talked to the other senator. Oh,
Speaker 5: what the heck was his name, Ralph Yarborough. I talked
Speaker 5: to Secret Service agents. I talked to all sorts of people.
Speaker 5: I sat in the window that.
Speaker 7: The Texas Depository, Yes, sir.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that in seventy eight and in eighty three you
Speaker 5: could walk into the Texas Book Depository and you could
Speaker 5: sit in the window. You can't do that today. The
Speaker 5: window is blocked off. You can stand and look through
Speaker 5: glass at the window. I sat in the window where
Speaker 5: Oswald sat, my forearm in my elbow.
Speaker 7: It was the sixth floor, right, I think it was
Speaker 7: the fifth floor.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to double check on that. I know
Speaker 5: it was the fifth of the sixth floor. I remember
Speaker 5: having my elbow on the window sill where Oswald, you know,
Speaker 5: used to steady his shots. You know what, you know?
Speaker 7: I love Trump. I voted him three times. I do
Speaker 7: think he's making the right decision on this thing. But
Speaker 7: you know, going back to what the repercussions were for
Speaker 7: this assassination. I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Speaker 7: If JFK hadn't been assassinated, one would make the point
Speaker 7: that we probably wouldn't have gotten into the Vietnam War
Speaker 7: and cost fifty eight thousand lives. And that's the way
Speaker 7: I look at it.
Speaker 5: Well, let me just let me share one thing with
Speaker 5: you on that, which I know a little bit about.
Speaker 5: When Eisenhower left the office, we had about eight hundred
Speaker 5: US advisors in Vietnam, in South Vietnam. When John Kennedy
Speaker 5: was killed in November twenty second, we had sixteen thousand
Speaker 5: US troops in Vietnam.
Speaker 7: Now, but Johnson was the one that had you know,
Speaker 7: mega troops going over there.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh no, no, no question about that. But
Speaker 5: still there was an increase between you know, during Kennedy's term,
Speaker 5: just historically, do I think it was increased? Do I
Speaker 5: think it wasn't on the scale of the half a
Speaker 5: million troops that were there.
Speaker 8: It was.
Speaker 5: The Gulf of Tonkin resolution was in August of sixty four,
Speaker 5: which obviously was a setup to get US involved. But
Speaker 5: you know, so I just I really know a lot
Speaker 5: about this era. I have some strong feelings, but I
Speaker 5: want to hear what people think, because that's what.
Speaker 7: I think that Trump's making the point that you made originally.
Speaker 7: You know, do you want transparency? Do you want the truth? YEP?
Speaker 8: I do.
Speaker 7: And I really think that Trump's making the right decision.
Speaker 7: Anything earth shattering that may occur as a result of
Speaker 7: it is yet to be determined. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And by the way, I think you're correct. It is
Speaker 5: the sixth floor. I remember walking up. There was an
Speaker 5: elevator and we went up and then you were and
Speaker 5: the window was you could just sit there. You could
Speaker 5: just sit there and imagine by the way, you looked
Speaker 5: at the road where the car down and it had
Speaker 5: to make kind of a hairpin turn and it had
Speaker 5: to slow down.
Speaker 7: It was like shooting, which is which is a time
Speaker 7: that he needed to pull off the shots if he
Speaker 7: if he was the one that killed Kennedy, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's find let's let's find out. Hey, I hate
Speaker 5: to do this, Steve, and I'm way past my friend.
Speaker 5: I gotta keep rolling. Thank you so much.
Speaker 7: Starting to you and you have a great night and
Speaker 7: enjoy the snow.
Speaker 5: If you two, okay, you're gotta get more of it
Speaker 5: than we will. Thanks much. All right, we got Paul
Speaker 5: and Plymouth, Doreen and Chelsea, Jeanie, Janine and Hyena'sport coming up,
Speaker 5: and we're gonna go into the next hour with this.
Speaker 5: The only lines open right now, six one, seven nine.
Speaker 5: Do you want the truth? Can you handle the truth
Speaker 5: about the Kennedy, President Kennedy, Robert Kennedy and MLK assassinations.
Speaker 5: I want the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but
Speaker 5: the truth. And if there are people alive today whose
Speaker 5: whose names are going to be destroyed by what they
Speaker 5: did in any of those cases, they deserve it.
Speaker 4: We'll be back on night Side now, back to Dan
Speaker 4: Ray live from the Window World night Side Studios on
Speaker 4: WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 5: Okay, let's try to get everybody in if we can,
Speaker 5: if we probably won't, and we'll get you up right
Speaker 5: after the news. Let me go next to Paul and Plymouth.
Speaker 5: PAULI are ready for the truth.
Speaker 11: Yes, sir, Hi Dan, listen, Dan. I think the truths
Speaker 11: came out and I hate you know, probably people are
Speaker 11: gonna say this guy's nuts, but I think the truth
Speaker 11: came out in the Warren Commission. I think that Oswald
Speaker 11: was just a nut. He was a rogue nut, they
Speaker 11: found a fingerprint, they found a gun, and he was
Speaker 11: a rogue nut and he shot the president. And and
Speaker 11: then you had another guy Ruby, who was an uptight
Speaker 11: nut who just blew up at the shot the thought
Speaker 11: that the president of the United States was was murdered,
Speaker 11: and so he went down there and uh, did what
Speaker 11: he had to do.
Speaker 7: I mean, that's yeah, that's what the.
Speaker 5: One you know, if you buy the war and commissioned report.
Speaker 5: I gotta be honest with you. I've got a bridge
Speaker 5: in Brooklyn. I'd love to show you.
Speaker 11: One other thing, What about the Statue of Limitations. If
Speaker 11: there was indeed a rogue murderer out there someplace, wouldn't
Speaker 11: wouldn't they have you know, one of the presidents between
Speaker 11: that time and now probably knew of anything that anything
Speaker 11: else that might have gone on because they would have
Speaker 11: had access to that information. Don't you think they would
Speaker 11: have gone after whoever this other murder was or a
Speaker 11: group of murderers that you know, took down the president
Speaker 11: of the United States.
Speaker 5: So anyway, to be honest with you, look, they play hardball, okay.
Speaker 5: You know, if if it was people who were in
Speaker 5: all you know, if you watch JFK and I think
Speaker 5: Oliver Price thought that maybe the CIA was involved. You
Speaker 5: got some people. I don't know. I really don't know.
Speaker 5: I want the truth. I don't think we've been told
Speaker 5: the truth. You think we got the truth in the
Speaker 5: Warren Commission report. Warren Commission Report came out in September,
Speaker 5: about eight months after the assassination. Much too fast was
Speaker 5: thrown together too quickly in my opinion. But we'll see,
Speaker 5: we'll see. And by the way, if someone was involved
Speaker 5: in a conspiracy to murder the president of the United States,
Speaker 5: there's no statutal limitations on that murder. There's no statutal limitations, right, So.
Speaker 11: If that's gonna come out now all of a sudden,
Speaker 11: I mean, the list of the person is dead. You know,
Speaker 11: someone could be going to jail very quickly here.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean I think after what is it,
Speaker 5: it's almost sixty five Doing the math in my head,
Speaker 5: thirty seven plus twenty four you're talking about, you know
Speaker 5: it spent it's sixty one years since the assassination.
Speaker 7: Uh so, well, I'll tell you what I think.
Speaker 11: You know what you're gonna find in those reports, You're
Speaker 11: gonna find probably a lot of screw ups, and things
Speaker 11: like that that would have embarrassed the government. So that's
Speaker 11: probably well.
Speaker 5: Then let's get it out there, because if there were
Speaker 5: screw ups and there were people that screwed up, weren't
Speaker 5: they screw ups in Butler, Pennsylvania when when Trump got up,
Speaker 5: got up to speak, and the kid is there one
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty yards away and came within about ten
Speaker 5: you know, a foot of killing Donald Trump.
Speaker 11: So absolutely so let's the truth will.
Speaker 5: Sent us free? Okay, thank you, ball, Thanks man. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna get Dorian and Chelsea in here real quickly. Hey, Dorian,
Speaker 5: I got about a minute and a half for you.
Speaker 5: I can hold you over if you want, go right ahead.
Speaker 8: It was from the beginning. I was a little girl.
Speaker 8: I have a good memory.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 6: I got the book.
Speaker 8: My father bought me four days. I don't know where
Speaker 8: it is. I kept on studying all the pitches.
Speaker 11: My brother read the book, a big book.
Speaker 8: On and he says there's only one killer, and it
Speaker 8: was Oswald. What I thought was it was a conspiracy
Speaker 8: right from the stat plus jealousy. Now no one won
Speaker 8: because who would put American flag through a capital window?
Speaker 13: That's not right?
Speaker 8: You know what?
Speaker 7: I mean, and I don't know, but I agree with you.
Speaker 5: No one should put an American flag through a capital window.
Speaker 5: I agree with your point.
Speaker 8: An American, that's an American.
Speaker 5: How does that connect to the Kennedy assassination or the
Speaker 5: Robert Kennedy or the NBA.
Speaker 8: Well, I've seen Ruby get shot on TV live, and
Speaker 8: I've seen Robert, his brother, get shot live on TV.
Speaker 13: I have one of those.
Speaker 8: Minds you call a photographic memory of something.
Speaker 11: Photographic memory.
Speaker 5: I remember all those days I do the we.
Speaker 8: Right, and I'm telling you everybody has an opinion, farms
Speaker 8: their wrong opinion. But I thought it was a conspiracy,
Speaker 8: plush jealousy right from the stat.
Speaker 5: No part of it. Doreen, I'm flat out of time.
Speaker 5: I got you in before the news. Let's keep listening
Speaker 5: and we'll talk again real soon. Okay, all right, thanks Dorean,
Speaker 5: appreciate you calling, coming back on night's side right after
Speaker 5: the eleven o'clock news. I want the truth, uh, and
Speaker 5: I wanted the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Speaker 5: It's been too long