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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dankplis Show. Please be sure to give

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<v Speaker 1>us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,

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<v Speaker 1>and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every

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<v Speaker 1>single day on your favorite podcast platform. American way is

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<v Speaker 1>peace through strength. Right you want to stop or prevent war,

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<v Speaker 1>never get in a war, then be strong enough nobody's

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<v Speaker 1>going to want to fight you. It's also prosperity through strength.

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan trademark that right now. I've never heard anybody say

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<v Speaker 1>that before, but it's true prosperity through strength. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you're getting right now with Trump. And yeah, hey

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a wild ride in the meantime, right but

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<v Speaker 1>nothing great ever came easy. So that's what we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>right now is prosperity through strength. And so, Ryan, as

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<v Speaker 1>we hear people say these tariffs they're going to devastate America,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got some prominent Republicans at this point to a

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<v Speaker 1>supporting legislation that would take that terrifability away from President Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what we have to keep in mind and

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<v Speaker 1>why I think it's so important to have trust in

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<v Speaker 1>Trump on this and to back this play is that

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<v Speaker 1>the key to any great deal. And remember, the book

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote was not the art of the tariff. The

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<v Speaker 1>book he wrote was the art of the deal. So

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<v Speaker 1>those who are assuming that he is not doing this

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<v Speaker 1>in order to gain leverage to get deals, I think

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<v Speaker 1>are mistaken, because that I believe, and I've said it

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<v Speaker 1>from the first moment he announced these tariffs, is what

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<v Speaker 1>his play is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not to sit around for two to three to

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<v Speaker 2>five to.

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<v Speaker 1>Six years while these tariffs take their full effect over

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<v Speaker 1>time in the American political process.

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<v Speaker 2>That just wouldn't be feasible. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be an ideal in certain ways, one could argue,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll never know because it wouldn't be feasible politically.

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<v Speaker 1>And even somebody like President Trump now, who's willing admirably

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<v Speaker 1>to do very painful things in order to reset this

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<v Speaker 1>country economically in a positive way, you know, his party

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<v Speaker 1>would not stand by and allow the kind of wipeouts

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<v Speaker 1>that would occur during the mid term, the twenty eighth cycle, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>While tariffs, you know, had their time to work. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he did this to gain leverage to do deals. And

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<v Speaker 1>that is what is happening right now. And yeah, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what's about to hit China overnight and where

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<v Speaker 1>we think all of that is going to end. But clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said from the first instant he announced this play,

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<v Speaker 1>it is to gain leverage to do deals. We all

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<v Speaker 1>know you can't do any meaningful deal, let alone a

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<v Speaker 1>good deal, unless you have leverage. I mean, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>practicing law for forty years.

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<v Speaker 2>I do big cases.

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<v Speaker 1>The only way you're going to get a maximum settlement

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<v Speaker 1>is if you have leverage. And the only way you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have leverage is if you've proven you'll go

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<v Speaker 1>to trial and you know how to win, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go to trial and you're going to win.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where you get the leverage to make them

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<v Speaker 1>pay fully. On the other side. You cannot get any

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<v Speaker 1>great deal without leverage, and talk is cheap, same thing

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<v Speaker 1>in my analogy. You can say all those things, but

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<v Speaker 1>unless you actually go into the courtroom and prove you'll

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<v Speaker 1>go into the courtman and spend all the money to

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<v Speaker 1>go into the courtman and spend all the time and

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<v Speaker 1>then be blessed to win, well, then the other side's

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<v Speaker 1>going to completely ignore it. So the only way Trump

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<v Speaker 1>could get this leverage is to do it is to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. The only way to it is through it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you got to do it, and he's doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's some disruption and there's some pain in the meantime.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think this is a play for leverage and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that he's carrying it out very well right now,

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<v Speaker 1>good deals and I think he's going to get him

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<v Speaker 1>pretty quickly. Obviously, the big kahuna is China, right the

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<v Speaker 1>big violator is the Communist Party of China and Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Ryan didn't he just go to one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>Percent tariffs on Chinese goods, and so I think that

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<v Speaker 1>kicks in maybe at midnight tonight. So yeah, there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be this international game of chicken going on, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>And I can't sit here and tell you whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I would betch my golf clubs and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's going to go on for six months.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not in that camp that thinks, okay, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>I think the issues are probably too big for that,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe it does. I mean, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>mutual respect. It appears between these two. On the one hand,

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<v Speaker 1>you have one of the most evil people in world

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<v Speaker 1>history in g on the other hand, you have somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who's been a hero for freedom in the world in Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>But they appear to have this mutual respect. And maybe

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<v Speaker 1>there's an opportunity for a quicker deal there.

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<v Speaker 2>Why because she knows now.

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<v Speaker 1>She knows Trump operates within the American system right where

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<v Speaker 1>where he's going to be subjected to many more political pressures.

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<v Speaker 1>And thank god we're in a system like this with

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<v Speaker 1>those competing pressures and not in a communist system.

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<v Speaker 2>She has some more leeway that way.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not like it's not like everybody in China

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<v Speaker 1>right now is driving a Bugatti, right. I mean, they've

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<v Speaker 1>got some economic problems of their own. So it's the

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<v Speaker 1>art of the deal, not the art of the tariffs.

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<v Speaker 1>The tariffs are a way to get leverage so President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump can get some deals, saying God love them for

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<v Speaker 1>us because the status quo has not been good is

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<v Speaker 1>not good. And Ryan and I come back to this

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<v Speaker 1>point then we'll open it up to calls and text.

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<v Speaker 1>Can anybody deny this profound truth, The underlying premise of

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<v Speaker 1>all of this that if we are going to have

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<v Speaker 1>the America that we want, that any sane person want,

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<v Speaker 1>any good person wants. If we're going to have that America,

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<v Speaker 1>something maddick has to be done to support, to boost,

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<v Speaker 1>to provide the opportunity, not guaranteed outcome, that's communist crap.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about equal opportunity for working people in America.

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<v Speaker 1>There has to be some really significant change, and I

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<v Speaker 1>believe what Trump's doing right now is part of that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then another I won't call it bombshell kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of overused and most often used in connection by Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>of course with his amazing fiance, but kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>bombshell revelation today that President Trump has confirmed that he's

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of some tax cuts on the pardon me, let

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<v Speaker 1>me take that back. The reason it's a bomb show

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<v Speaker 1>is because he's thinking of tax increases on.

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<v Speaker 2>The very wealthy, and so we'll talk about that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Three or three someone three eight two five five text

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<v Speaker 2>So we got a lot to do, and we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>even got to the Nuggets.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet Yeah, we're not a sports show, so we won't

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<v Speaker 1>devote the whole show to what A like to, which

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<v Speaker 1>is to talk about the firing of Nuggets coach Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Malone today. And I just want to say this on

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<v Speaker 1>that I've never met him, like him personally, like how

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<v Speaker 1>he handles himself, like overall, how he's approached the team.

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<v Speaker 1>But clearly this team was no longer responding to him.

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<v Speaker 1>And that can happen right through no fault of anybody's overtime.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just the.

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<v Speaker 1>Nature of relationships. It's been ten seasons, but not my marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been thirty seasons plus there, and it just keeps

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<v Speaker 1>getting better, and we just keep winning more and more

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<v Speaker 1>championships as we define them within the confines.

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<v Speaker 2>Of marital bliss.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I'm saying is I have so much respect

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<v Speaker 1>for the Kronkeys for pulling the trigger now because you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to send the message and the rest of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>it probably won't last that long, but the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the season is going to be so much more valuable,

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<v Speaker 1>so much more interesting, And it's so respectful to the fans,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, who pay a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to bias.

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<v Speaker 1>Our law firm is the official law firm partner of

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<v Speaker 1>the Nuggets in the Colorado wa Avalanche, So.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a bias there.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, we get some time with people in the

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<v Speaker 1>cron Key organization stuff like that, But but I just

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<v Speaker 1>have so much respect for them for doing this, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it shows tremendous respect to the fans. We know,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you don't pay a dime for tickets, you

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<v Speaker 1>pay with something more valuable than paper currency or plastic.

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<v Speaker 1>You pay with your time to watch this team. You

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<v Speaker 1>pay with your heart to support this team. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>respectful of fans to say, we're not putting up with

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<v Speaker 1>this garbage we're seeing on the court right now. We

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<v Speaker 1>got the best player in the world and we're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to sit back and voluntarily waste another minute of

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<v Speaker 1>his time. So I think a tremendous, tremendously respectful message

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<v Speaker 1>to the fans and an important message to the players

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<v Speaker 1>on the team. You want to be here next year,

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<v Speaker 1>Go play some defense, Go play some defense. Bryan Schulin

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<v Speaker 1>could go out there, and what do you think you'd shoot?

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<v Speaker 1>What would your shooting percentage be in my prime?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Off the bench able to three or a couple, but

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<v Speaker 4>just one thing, and I don't expect you to dovetail

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<v Speaker 4>out this dam But on behalf.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the fans. Did you watch that calamitous conclusion.

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<v Speaker 4>To the game the other night where Nikola Jokic had

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<v Speaker 4>sixty points and Russ Westbrook split his hair on fire

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<v Speaker 4>and lost the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, here's why I don't criticize Westbrook for that, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is he plays hard. Right, If you're gonna play hard,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be bold and dynamic. Then every now and

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<v Speaker 1>then there's gonna be a big, big mistake. That's just

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<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest mistakes people have seen in.

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<v Speaker 2>A long time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I don't fault Westbrook for that. But you're

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<v Speaker 1>right that end to that Minnesota game, what was beyond

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<v Speaker 1>a gut punch. What bothered me even more, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get off sports. What bothered me even more was

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the game Sunday night.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, where.

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<v Speaker 1>Jokic, as always is playing his heart out and then

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have the defensive effort and you give up

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<v Speaker 1>a late loss to the Pacers in a game you

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<v Speaker 1>had to win. So I just respect the Kronkeys for

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<v Speaker 1>pulling the trigger. When we come back, we'll get back

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<v Speaker 1>to financial armageddon. Say the panic porn folks, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think so. I think we're in the middle of a

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant not perfectly played and I'll tell you what I

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<v Speaker 1>mean about that, but a courageous and brilliant move by

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump that's going to pay enormous dividends pun intended.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on the Dan Caplas Show.

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<v Speaker 3>And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>Is trading higher today and we did see what was

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<v Speaker 5>welcomed yesterday, and that has a bounce from some of

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<v Speaker 5>the lows and even a higher close on the NASDAC.

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<v Speaker 5>One of our guests, the Secretary earlier mentioned the resumption

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<v Speaker 5>of the trade put and not coincidentally, it coincided with

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<v Speaker 1>Got a sense answer to that, Treasury Secretary, which I

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<v Speaker 2>Please.

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<v Speaker 6>how to come and negotiate. So, you know, I would

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is not a complicated formula.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, You've got to impose these tariffs to get the

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<v Speaker 1>China toughest not to crack. That may take longer, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's probably going to be more pain ahead, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>how to play it. You know, nobody's ever going to

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody's ever going to time that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you just have to decide, Okay, did you wait

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<v Speaker 2>Are they going to get back in at all? Personally?

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<v Speaker 1>For us, and again, do the opposite of whatever I do,

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<v Speaker 1>right Ryan, You never lose a dime.

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<v Speaker 2>Until you sell exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, some awful things can be happening right now, but

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I was so surprised, Dan, I found your

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<v Speaker 3>There isn't going to be a bottoming out here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but an experienced trader like Ross.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not an experienced trader, right, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>all that good stuff. Ross is an experienced professional trader,

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<v Speaker 2>Would not be right well, nor me.

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<v Speaker 1>I just try to find I just try to find

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<v Speaker 1>or at he's not doing bad things, you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>But that's why I don't have a fleet of bugattis

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<v Speaker 1>like one young Ryan Schuing. Yeah, right, are there any

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll get back to that in a second. I

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<v Speaker 2>I think the maneuver he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Making now is necessary pain and he's going to land

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<v Speaker 1>an Oval Office address in the beginning, just laying out

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<v Speaker 2>Be worth this short term pain.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that it would have been better for

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think he's been explaining all of that

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<v Speaker 1>a nice additional touch with that. Said, Hey, bro, whether

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<v Speaker 1>to be saying this is a really gutsy move. And

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<v Speaker 1>he won, and America won, and we're in a much

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<v Speaker 4>And it goes to what you said yesterday, Dan, that

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not just the confidence it's going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in control right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, say that the big koon of the deal

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that's going to be an overnight thing

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<v Speaker 1>of pressure on President Trump as we see the market go.

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<v Speaker 2>Up and down, et cetera. But he's in control in

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<v Speaker 1>He's in control in the end because in a worst

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<v Speaker 1>as any president can ever be in a scenario like this.

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<v Speaker 1>And Ryan, he goes into it in the perfect position,

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<v Speaker 1>right because talk is cheap. You know, you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>willingness to stand in there and fight like no other

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>The big question that a lot of people have here

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<v Speaker 1>is does the alien enemies that cannot be used at all?

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose they may never, although one would think it

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<v Speaker 7>No, although I am disturbed that they didn't at least

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<v Speaker 7>give us a hint that this may not be a

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<v Speaker 7>John by their failure to engage with the bad faith

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<v Speaker 7>of the administration here in rushing these people onto a plane,

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<v Speaker 7>in not releasing the proclamation publicly, and rushing them despite

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<v Speaker 1>Well, sure it does, I think this was an enormous

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Want to get to the phone lines. Continue

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about something that's probably very much on your mind,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you have any stocks or not in the retirement fund,

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<v Speaker 2>Midnight tonight, and we don't know if it'll go weeks, months, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>But we do know a deal is going to get

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<v Speaker 1>In America is going to be in a much better

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<v Speaker 2>Trump levied the tariffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I go to the phone lines, let's squeezing a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of texts. Dan, Ryan, maybe Ross sold before the tariffs.

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<v Speaker 1>I thoroughly enjoyed the battle of the talk show host yesterday. Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>great show on KOWA. We disagree on this issue. He's

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<v Speaker 1>that battle of ideas. It's one reason that Kapitalist and

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<v Speaker 1>we need more of that, right, We just need more

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<v Speaker 2>We're all consumers right all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan, I wish President Trump would have put the number

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<v Speaker 1>ninety two on China, meaning Trump forty five, Trump forty

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<v Speaker 1>seven equals ninety two percent tariffs.

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<v Speaker 2>That from Eric, Thank you, Eric.

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<v Speaker 1>We love a sense of humor often the very best

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<v Speaker 2>Dean in Arvada, Colorado. You're on the Dan Kaplo Show.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I want to get to the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I think President Trump could have done better here, even

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome Dean.

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<v Speaker 8>The reason I'm the reason I'm calling is because of

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<v Speaker 8>listening to Jesse Kelly a little bit. Uh you know him, right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>Well he.

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<v Speaker 9>He was just for informational purposes.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 8>He basically explained that her sister has been threatened. Uh,

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<v Speaker 8>you know they said bomb threats at the Barrett's house.

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<v Speaker 8>It looks like she it's either been threatened or because

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think she's on the take, I think, oh,

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<v Speaker 8>I think they did, and I just think they got

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<v Speaker 8>to her, uh, and they're sharing her. I think I

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<v Speaker 8>think Trump needs just started putting some massive security around.

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<v Speaker 9>All the judges, even if they're a liberal judge.

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<v Speaker 8>I think he out of security.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I'm so glad you called on this.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think you and I have different takes, my friend,

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<v Speaker 1>but thank you for coning on something really important and

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<v Speaker 1>for most folks.

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<v Speaker 2>With normal lives. You know, there've been a couple of.

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<v Speaker 1>Really big Supreme Court rulings in the last twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>to forty eight hours, and Justice Barrett went against the

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<v Speaker 1>administration on one of those, and had been, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the administration on a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of cases recently, and you know, in support of the

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<v Speaker 1>administration's position on some other big cases.

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<v Speaker 2>And so there's been this concern on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of some that Justice Barrett, you know, at this

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<v Speaker 1>point is really a justice suitor or some have said

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<v Speaker 1>that she's concerned for safety, et cetera. I respectfully disagree

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<v Speaker 1>on that Dean. From everything I've seen about her, I

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<v Speaker 1>think she is a person of utmost character and strength

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<v Speaker 1>and principle. And while I strongly degree disagree with some

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<v Speaker 1>of the positions she's taken, I think she's gotten there

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<v Speaker 1>honestly true to her own judicial philosophy. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>she's outcome driven in terms of I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>against the administration on this. I haven't seen anything that

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<v Speaker 1>suggests to me that there's some kind of overarching issue

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<v Speaker 1>with this president who obviously appointed her. So, yeah, do

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<v Speaker 1>I wish you would have come down differently in some

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<v Speaker 1>of these rulings, You bet, But I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 1>anything nefarious or any kind of intimidation going on there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh we losteing, Okay, well, hopefully you'll come back. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure he has a different take on that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously every word I just said to you. I think

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<v Speaker 1>what happens is that you know, you get you get people,

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<v Speaker 1>and the judge has such a different role, right because

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<v Speaker 1>when you take on that judicial role and you put

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<v Speaker 1>the robes on, it's it's supposed to mean at that point, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>your own policy preferences, opinions, et cetera. You know, those

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<v Speaker 1>don't matter anymore. Those don't matter anymore. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>have the RoboN. And so in turn terms of how

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<v Speaker 1>different judges and justices in this case approach their job,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe this is a person justice spart with this

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<v Speaker 1>judicial philosophy and she follows it strictly no matter what

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<v Speaker 1>outcome it leads to, and that she's never going to be,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like we see so many in Supreme Court history,

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<v Speaker 1>so many justices on the left to in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just become partisans and just become outcome driven.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's never going to be one of those justices.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's emerging as a key swing vote. But

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that tells me Ryan among many other things,

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<v Speaker 1>but one thing that tells me that she is absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>true to her judicial process and beliefs is where she

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<v Speaker 1>came down on roll because that, you know, Dobbs, the

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<v Speaker 1>overturning of role, that is the toughest thing any justice

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<v Speaker 1>in modern American history has had to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was the right thing, clearly, not even a

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<v Speaker 2>close call, but the toughest thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was absolutely rock solid on that, And that,

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<v Speaker 1>among other things, leaves me with no concern that she's.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to be one of those who go soft on.

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<v Speaker 1>What's really right because she wants to be liked, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>by the East Coast academic establishment or any of that garbage.

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<v Speaker 1>She was true on Dobbs, and that I think tells

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<v Speaker 1>you just about everything you need to know.

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<v Speaker 4>Jerry's still out and fun intended there on what she'll

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<v Speaker 4>be long term, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>But it just goes back to the conversation you and

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<v Speaker 3>I have had over these many years.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan.

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<v Speaker 4>You go back to John Paul Stevens appointed by Gerald R. Ford,

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<v Speaker 4>and he went wildly to the left. Then David Souter

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<v Speaker 4>on Herbert Walker Bush's watch. Then you had under Ronald

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<v Speaker 4>Reagan even Sander Dale O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy went to

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<v Speaker 4>the middle. Then you also had John Roberts the Chief Justice.

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<v Speaker 4>He's been unreliable. It never goes the other way. We're

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<v Speaker 4>a Carter, Bill Clinton, a Barack Obama, Joe Biden appointed

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<v Speaker 4>in Supreme Court justice and they drift to the right.

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<v Speaker 2>It never happens, No, And you're right, it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do think you know, justices are only humans,

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<v Speaker 1>some more susceptible to it than others. But obviously you

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<v Speaker 1>get that poll of the East Coast academic establishment, including

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<v Speaker 1>the Ivy League establishment, the media that's largely created by

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party, it's controlled. And then also just human nature,

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<v Speaker 1>right is so many people, you know, get consumed with

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<v Speaker 1>what their legacy is going to be, how they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be viewed by history. And guess who gets to

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<v Speaker 1>right history. It's the left normally through its control of

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<v Speaker 1>the media. And so I do think you see over

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<v Speaker 1>time some justices give in to that. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>she is giving into that one iota, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Dobbs decision is the best proof of that, but

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<v Speaker 1>that there are other examples. But you're right, it never

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<v Speaker 1>goes the other way, does it? And you look back

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<v Speaker 1>on Centa day O'Connor, and listen, I run old Reagan

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<v Speaker 1>was a gift to this country, and I'm grateful that

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<v Speaker 1>we had him as our president. But the books I

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<v Speaker 1>read and everything else, it doesn't appear to be in dispute.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Sandra day O'Connor, if I remember the stories correctly,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been a while, was supporting abortion pro abortion

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<v Speaker 1>legislation in Arizona and still got a Reagan appointment to

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<v Speaker 1>the US Supreme Court. You haven't had, in my humble opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>you have not had a Republican president of the United

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<v Speaker 1>States truly committed to pro life in including on the

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<v Speaker 1>US Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 2>And listen, it happens to be the correct outcome, but

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<v Speaker 2>constitutionally it's the only outcome is Dobbs.

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<v Speaker 1>The only constitutionally correct outcome is Dobbs. But Trump has

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<v Speaker 1>been by light years the most committed Republican president to.

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<v Speaker 2>The life issue.

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<v Speaker 3>Very true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, three h three someone three eight two five five

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<v Speaker 1>text d An five seven seven three nine.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back, we got.

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<v Speaker 1>An awful lot of ground to cover, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>we'll continue to overark it all with what's going on economically,

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<v Speaker 1>the related politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Why I'm convinced this is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Brilliant move by Trump which is going to work bigly.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on the Dan Caplass Show.

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<v Speaker 3>And now back to the Dankaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 10>The President is right when it comes to tariffs and

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<v Speaker 10>when it comes to trade. In fact, Democrats have long

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<v Speaker 10>said that the United States of America has been ripped

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<v Speaker 10>off by the countries around the world. They just don't

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<v Speaker 10>want to admit it now because it's President Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is saying that.

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<v Speaker 10>In June of nineteen ninety six, Nancy Pelosi spoke on

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<v Speaker 10>the House floor.

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<v Speaker 2>She urged her.

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<v Speaker 10>Colleagues at the time to fight against the status quo

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<v Speaker 10>trade policies that had contributed to America's.

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<v Speaker 2>Trade deficit with China.

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<v Speaker 10>In fact, Nancy Pelosi said, how far does China have

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<v Speaker 10>to go, how much more repression, how big a trade deficit?

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<v Speaker 10>How many jobs have to be lost for the American workers,

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<v Speaker 10>how much dangerous proliferation has to exist before members of

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<v Speaker 10>this House of Representatives will say I.

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<v Speaker 2>Will not endorse the status quo.

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<v Speaker 10>Those are the words of Nancy Pelosi in nineteen ninety six.

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<v Speaker 10>While President Trump is finally answering her call twenty seven

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<v Speaker 10>years later, Nancy Pelosi can thank President Trump today for

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<v Speaker 10>the one hundred and four percent retaliatory tariff that will

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<v Speaker 10>be going into effect on China.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, right on target. I love the fact they're

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<v Speaker 1>fighting on this. Three or three someone three eight two

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<v Speaker 1>five five texts d an five.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven seven three nine.

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<v Speaker 1>But as we go to calls, remember this, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the art of the tariffs.

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<v Speaker 2>That wasn't the name of his book. It's the art

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<v Speaker 2>of the what the art of the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can't make a deal without leverage, and the

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<v Speaker 1>way he gets leverage is through these tariffs. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>an end game unto themselves. There are a means to

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<v Speaker 1>a rapidly that might mean six months in the case

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<v Speaker 1>of China, but a rapidly much better landscape for the

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<v Speaker 1>US moving forward. Let's go too beautiful and it is

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<v Speaker 1>Frederick Color, I don't talk to Doug.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on the Dane Capitalist Show.

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<v Speaker 11>Welcome, Hey, Dan. Just you know, I've been thinking about

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<v Speaker 11>this from the working man's perspective, the average guy.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I think the average medium in.

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<v Speaker 11>Come in this in this country is.

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<v Speaker 9>Eighty thousand households somewhere in there.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, maybe it's one person working, their wife's staying

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<v Speaker 8>home with the kids.

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<v Speaker 11>Just think about what I'm getting at is what's good

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<v Speaker 11>for Wall Street?

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<v Speaker 9>Is that necessarily good.

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<v Speaker 2>For Main Street?

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<v Speaker 11>We haven't seen that in this country lately.

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<v Speaker 9>A lot of so many people.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't afford a home.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, a lot of people work so hard and

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<v Speaker 11>they just can't get ahead.

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<v Speaker 9>And what you have with these with a lot of

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<v Speaker 9>the trade policies, one we're dealing from a trade deficit.

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<v Speaker 11>But two, our very own flour along case are hurting

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<v Speaker 11>us in some sense because yes, we're putting away of

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<v Speaker 11>money for retirement, but that money going to retirement, yes

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<v Speaker 11>that's couldn't find. But if you have to borrow for

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<v Speaker 11>that to pay your mortgage, you can't even afford a house.

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<v Speaker 11>So what I'm getting at is, if you're set up

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<v Speaker 11>to where you're going to make the most money.

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<v Speaker 9>Three or four one k, maybe those companies.

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<v Speaker 11>Are all based in a foreign countries, how does that

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<v Speaker 11>help us as Americans.

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<v Speaker 9>We've got to get the jobs back here.

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<v Speaker 8>We've got to help Americans.

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<v Speaker 11>We got to help Main Street in order to help

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<v Speaker 11>help Wall Street.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what we need.

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<v Speaker 1>What we need, my friend, is we need a Manhattan

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<v Speaker 1>Project for the working class in America. We need a

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<v Speaker 1>Manhattan Project for the middle class in America. Because the

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<v Speaker 1>single greatest threat to the continuation of America as we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted is right now the many different ways that the

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<v Speaker 1>working class in America is being abused and is being

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<v Speaker 1>being deprived of equal opportunity and equal opportunity for their children.

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<v Speaker 1>And this crosses all lines of color. It's a big

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<v Speaker 1>reason why President Trump has gained so much among people

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<v Speaker 1>of color. Is because so many people of color are

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<v Speaker 1>hard working people who are part of the working class

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<v Speaker 1>that typically gets screwed in this country. So yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>need a lot, We need a lot more than just

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<v Speaker 1>the gains that are going to be made through this

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<v Speaker 1>this tariff leverage play of Trump, and they are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be important gains, but we need a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>than that. To Hey, appreciate the call, but you're one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent correct, And it's a matter of maths, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of fairness.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a matter of just coherence of our society. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't have.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything, you can't have anything stay together if the middle

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<v Speaker 1>is cut out. And that's what's happening in America is

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<v Speaker 1>this gap between the halves and the working class in

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<v Speaker 1>America is growing greater and greater and greater.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I don't need jerk blame the rich.

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<v Speaker 1>People, right because in America, part of the idea is

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<v Speaker 1>that people should have that opportunity to prosper, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if they have the ability to the great idea, the

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<v Speaker 1>great product, the great this, the great that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Encourage that, right because it benefits everybody and it's part

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<v Speaker 1>of our freedom. So My reaction is not to blame

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<v Speaker 1>as a whole, you know, the rich the halves for

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the working class is falling behind.

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<v Speaker 2>The working class is getting.

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<v Speaker 1>Screwed in America by the Democratic Party, which is now

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<v Speaker 1>owned by the left wing. And listen, the Republican Party

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been blameless, but the Democratic Party has built in

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<v Speaker 1>existential motivation to keep the working class down.

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<v Speaker 2>Because our last call.

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<v Speaker 1>To Ryan referred to median income being up around I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know sixty or seventy thousand. I know what the

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<v Speaker 1>median income is in America. What do you think it is? Ryan?

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<v Speaker 1>I time an individual or do a income husholds Well,

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<v Speaker 1>not individual individual? Medium income in America is is what

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<v Speaker 1>would you guess just under forty what you're right? When

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<v Speaker 1>you win and you ad you get some married people

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<v Speaker 1>both are working, it's a round eighty k. But my

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<v Speaker 1>point being this that the Democratic Party knows the math.

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<v Speaker 1>When individuals start making around seventy some aregu sixty five,

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<v Speaker 1>some aregu seventy five, but around seventy thousand a year

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<v Speaker 1>they vote Republican. So the Democratic Party has this is

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<v Speaker 1>built in existential incentive to keep working class people down.

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<v Speaker 1>Just proportionately people of color, but all working class people down.

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<v Speaker 1>And then beyond that you get into the politics of it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so there is a war on the working class

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<v Speaker 1>on multiple fronts, and President Trump is trying to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with it in a very tangible way here on the

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<v Speaker 1>terrorf side. But that's not going to be the silver

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<v Speaker 1>bullet fixed for everything. There's a lot more that has

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<v Speaker 1>to be done for the working class than that.

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<v Speaker 2>But finally, a president who's willing to suffer.

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<v Speaker 1>Some political pain to dive in and try to do

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<v Speaker 1>a reset three or three someone three eight two five

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<v Speaker 1>five textda in five seven seven three nine. Why is

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado Democrats at the legislature trying to protect child rapists?

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<v Speaker 2>Dge Brockler joins us, and that after the break on

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<v Speaker 2>the Dan Kapla Show,
