Speaker 1: Okay, b La Talk fifteen eighty Good morning, Good morning,
Speaker 1: and God bless I'm Dominique Daprima. This show is called
Speaker 1: First Things First, and my first thing every day is prayer, given, thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: praises and asking for blessings from God, asking for the
Speaker 1: blessings of the ancestors and the elders. And let's go.
Speaker 1: We got a lot going on right now and a
Speaker 1: lot to talk about the way we do things on
Speaker 1: a Monday. We call them mindful Mondays because we're getting
Speaker 1: it together, putting our mentality in place for the week
Speaker 1: to come. Our one we look local, Our two we
Speaker 1: go national, international, and beyond. But we kick off the
Speaker 1: hour with mindfulness with a guided meditation and affirmation and
Speaker 1: an astrological outlook at the hands of meditation instructor, yoga
Speaker 1: teacher and astrologer Sahara Ali. And then in the third
Speaker 1: hour we do a deep dive with a hot topic
Speaker 1: of person or person's of interest. We did our messy
Speaker 1: Monday early this month, but we're just going to keep
Speaker 1: it a little tiny bit messy. Dell Harrison joins me,
Speaker 1: or not or very very very unmessy. Comedian Del Harrison
Speaker 1: joins me. In studio and we're talking our topic, our
Speaker 1: three celibacy. A lot of people are choosing it, some
Speaker 1: are doing it involuntarily. We'll talk about it. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: as you know, every hour you are welcome in it
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Speaker 1: can find it on YouTube. You can find it wherever
Speaker 1: you get your pods. I want to say happy birthday
Speaker 1: to Marcus Garvey today is his birthday and joining me
Speaker 1: in our one. Who could it be?
Speaker 2: Some botifland all in nine, Miss Kathleen Best was Kevin
Speaker 2: thinking losing thirty nine was me? All of us were
Speaker 2: all of Nevins.
Speaker 1: The Bosh is doing at the back of the nine
Speaker 1: smile beneath her nose every single day that you had
Speaker 1: the bet. This is what she's saying, Stop this ship.
Speaker 1: She is the president of the International and Intergalactic Prince
Speaker 1: Fan Club. She's the director and co founder of Black
Speaker 1: Lives Matter Grassroots and the lead organizer of bl m LA.
Speaker 1: She's also a professor Cal State, LA, doctor Melina Abdullah.
Speaker 2: Yay, good morning, now I feel good. I hadn't played
Speaker 2: Wake Up sawing it, but Miles did.
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, and we didn't know he was talking about
Speaker 1: seven forty five in the morning. But happy Monday to you.
Speaker 1: And it is a pretty happy Monday, right, I mean
Speaker 1: from an organizing perspective, let's start off happy not just
Speaker 1: with starfish and coffee, but time, place and manner.
Speaker 2: Yes, time, place and manner as the terrible restrictions that
Speaker 2: Cal States and you see have been using for the
Speaker 2: last two years to discipline and prosecute not only students
Speaker 2: but mostly students, also faculty and community. So it essentially
Speaker 2: limits free speech on campuses. And I know you've had
Speaker 2: Angel Marie Taylor on Tiffany Willoughby herad at U see
Speaker 2: I they use time, place and manner restrictions to justify
Speaker 2: her disciplinary action, disciplinary action against her, and we're saying
Speaker 2: that shouldn't be. You know that the the ucs and
Speaker 2: csus and colleges throughout this country have always been spaces
Speaker 2: of free speech and protest, and that is often uncomfortable,
Speaker 2: but that's how we won black studies in the first place,
Speaker 2: That's how we won voting rights, that's how we advocated
Speaker 2: for the end of apartheid in the Vietnam War and
Speaker 2: the ushering in of Black power, and even Black History
Speaker 2: Month was founded as a result of activism on college campuses.
Speaker 2: And so AB twenty five fifty one is a step
Speaker 2: forward in advancing free speech on campus which is under threat.
Speaker 2: And so thank you to everybody who called in. We
Speaker 2: were able to get the bill advanced out of Senate
Speaker 2: appropriations and on the Senate floor, and so of course
Speaker 2: this is the bill that was authored by South Central representative,
Speaker 2: South Central assembly woman herself a former student actor is
Speaker 2: Shahd Alwarri. And we still have more fight ahead. We
Speaker 2: have to get it past the Senate and past the
Speaker 2: Assembly floor. How can we face some opposition.
Speaker 1: I mean, but they do say appropriations is where bills
Speaker 1: go to die. So the fact that they've made it
Speaker 1: out of appropriations is a big deal. I guess we
Speaker 1: still have to keep the pressure on. I mean, really,
Speaker 1: you know, for those of us who don't follow every
Speaker 1: bill and every committee, the fact of the matter is
Speaker 1: that somehow, over the past decade or more. We've allowed
Speaker 1: universities to modify the right to assemble, the right to protest,
Speaker 1: and that's unconstitutional. They have decided, yeah, you can protest,
Speaker 1: but only when, where and how. We say that's not protest,
Speaker 1: that's recess.
Speaker 2: That's right. So most campuses now have what they call
Speaker 2: a free speech area, and you're allowed to be only
Speaker 2: in that area. You're not allowed to use amplified sound
Speaker 2: like bullhorns in some We have cases on some campuses
Speaker 2: where someone handed out a flyer on the grass instead
Speaker 2: of on the pathway, and he was threatened. He was
Speaker 2: pulled and threatened with disenrollment for simply handing out a
Speaker 2: flyer on unpaved area. We have people who've been disciplined
Speaker 2: for putting flyers up on bulletin boards. We have a
Speaker 2: student at cal State Northridge who was convicted of felonies
Speaker 2: for protesting against the ice raids. And so this is
Speaker 2: stuff that we are not going to allow to happen,
Speaker 2: and we're going to advance free speech. Protest is not
Speaker 2: meant to make everybody comfortable.
Speaker 1: It's meant to challenge, no doubt, And I do want
Speaker 1: to say, I mean it's great that it's out a committee,
Speaker 1: and of course you'll let us know when you know,
Speaker 1: when the next wave of calls and emails are needed.
Speaker 1: I do want to say that it's really been wonderful
Speaker 1: to watch assembly Member Shadel Hawai. You know, when she
Speaker 1: was running, I you know, I wasn't one hundred percent sure,
Speaker 1: and then after talking to her for a number of
Speaker 1: different times, I went ahead and supported her. And I
Speaker 1: feel like she has something I'm no longer allowed to
Speaker 1: do apparently on the air. I can do it off
Speaker 1: the air, but she's really done an amazing job. So far,
Speaker 1: so good. I'd say, Well.
Speaker 2: Let me say this. I was not a fan. I
Speaker 2: didn't like Shadai a worry I'm gonna I didn't dislike her,
Speaker 2: but you know, I felt like Boba Keeley was running
Speaker 2: for that district initially, and you know, of course I'm
Speaker 2: going to rock with Baba Akilley and I'm going how
Speaker 2: dare anybody run against Baba Killey? Right? Didn't know?
Speaker 1: That's loyalty right there, That's yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't know her, but let me I have grown
Speaker 2: to really respect her, and she was recently elected. Last week,
Speaker 2: she was elected chair of the Progressive Caucus. She is
Speaker 2: one who is not backing down, and that's what we
Speaker 2: want in our elected to remember, our job is not
Speaker 2: even to I like her, So let me be straight.
Speaker 2: I like her now, I like her a whole lot.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I talked to her around these issues often. But we
Speaker 2: don't even have to like our elected If our electeds
Speaker 2: are willing to fight for us, that's what's important. And
Speaker 2: she has been willing to fight, and she's fighting on
Speaker 2: this in a bunch of other issues, and so I
Speaker 2: think that maybe at some point we could talk about
Speaker 2: what's happening inside the Democratic Party in California. We have
Speaker 2: a super majority, but it's a fight between the corporate
Speaker 2: own Dems, what they call the moderate Dems are the
Speaker 2: moderate caucus and the progressive Dems who are willing to fight.
Speaker 2: And so we have to say, I'm sometimes dismayed by
Speaker 2: the fact we have a super majority Democratic legislature in California,
Speaker 2: yet our legislature is very, very tentative to do anything
Speaker 2: that's actually progressive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, it's a fight that we're seeing
Speaker 1: really all over the country, but in a way it
Speaker 1: seems ridiculous in California because we do have that super majority.
Speaker 1: Like in other places where democratic socialist candidates or progressive
Speaker 1: Dems who are not dssay are challenging these long time
Speaker 1: calcified corporate Dems. You know, it seems more right even
Speaker 1: New York, even though New York is considered a blue state.
Speaker 1: But Kelly, we have a super majority, and so the super.
Speaker 2: Majority that's not changing. It's not gonna not be blue
Speaker 2: right right.
Speaker 1: And so the fact that the corporate dams or moderates
Speaker 1: here fights so hard to maintain their power and keep
Speaker 1: out the progressive aspects of the party, to me, it's
Speaker 1: just kind of baffling.
Speaker 2: It is baffling. It's baffling that you have Justin Pearson
Speaker 2: in Tennessee, justin uh, what is it, John? What's justin
Speaker 2: Justin Jones? Justin Jones and Justin Pearson out of Tennessee
Speaker 2: where they stay, physical assaults, they've been blocked from even
Speaker 2: taking their seats sometimes, and they're willing to fight in Tennessee, right,
Speaker 2: But we don't have that same level of fight or
Speaker 2: more fight in California. And so when we have fighters
Speaker 2: like Shahdee al Warri, we have to surround them and
Speaker 2: encourage them, and then we have to push the others
Speaker 2: along and say there's no reason that you have to
Speaker 2: be a moderate Democrat. In a state like California, we
Speaker 2: can pass everything we want. We can pass Medicare for
Speaker 2: all or medical for all here in California. Why are
Speaker 2: we not passing universal health care? Why are we not
Speaker 2: passing a billionaire's tax? Why are we allowing there to
Speaker 2: even be conversation about voter restrictions in California, which is
Speaker 2: something we have to be aware of, you know. So
Speaker 2: let's encourage the progressive Dems and really grateful to Shade
Speaker 2: all Warri for authoring AB twenty five point fifty one.
Speaker 2: And we'll all need to be called to action to
Speaker 2: get it through.
Speaker 1: No doubt. By encourage we mean push. Doctor Malina Abdullah's
Speaker 1: my guest. You're welcome in at eight hundred nine to
Speaker 1: fifteen eighty. I'm Dominique and this is KBLA Talk fifteen eighty.
Speaker 1: Now you're back to me, you're back to doctor Malina Abdulah.
Speaker 1: And before we run out of time, and I know
Speaker 1: that sounds crazy because it's only twenty minutes after the hour,
Speaker 1: but time flies on the radio as you well know,
Speaker 1: what do you guys going this week. I know Wednesday
Speaker 1: is the weekly protest at well, what do you call
Speaker 1: the Hall of Injustice, So talk about that and what
Speaker 1: else is up this week.
Speaker 2: Sure, we got a full week, and of course it's
Speaker 2: Black August. So we kick it out this morning and
Speaker 2: I hope everybody is plugging in as we do this
Speaker 2: YouTube study session with Black Power Media where we're going
Speaker 2: through Blood in My Eye, So I co host with
Speaker 2: Kalanji Changa. This week we'll have doctor Dylan Rodriguez from
Speaker 2: you see Riverside joining us to talk about Blood in
Speaker 2: My Eye by George Jackson. And that's every Monday on
Speaker 2: Black Power Media YouTube. Then on Tuesday morning at nine am,
Speaker 2: we will be at the Police Commission meeting that's one
Speaker 2: hundred West first Street. We have to remember when we
Speaker 2: talk about that whistleblower and you know you've never ever
Speaker 2: heard me shout out a cup, but Daniel Flores did
Speaker 2: the right thing and telling on the racism and sexism
Speaker 2: and homophobia inside LAPD. And what we're doing is showing
Speaker 2: up at Police Commission meeting and asking why Jim McDonald
Speaker 2: is allowing the rampant racism, sexism and homophobia to take
Speaker 2: place take hold inside the hiring practices of LAPD. We're
Speaker 2: also reminding the mayor that she has the power to
Speaker 2: fire this absolutely terrible police chief. People can sign that
Speaker 2: petition at TinyURL dot com slash fire McDonald donald. That's
Speaker 2: fire mcd NNLLL fire McDonald. And we're showing up Tuesday morning,
Speaker 2: nine am, one hundred West First Street to make that
Speaker 2: demand Wednesday, and Bob a Chey would go every Wednesday,
Speaker 2: but I won't do him. Every Wednesday. We protest outside
Speaker 2: the District Attorney's office and Nathan Houtman continues to prove
Speaker 2: himself to be the devil that he is, and again
Speaker 2: he is choosing to prosecute Daniel flor as the whistleblower
Speaker 2: inside LAPD who told on them for the racism, sexism,
Speaker 2: in homophobia. He's prosecuting him with sixteen felony counts up
Speaker 2: to thirteen years in prison. He is not prosecuting the racists,
Speaker 2: he's not prosecuting the sexist. He's not prosecuting people for
Speaker 2: the hiring practices. He's not prosecuting the cops who killed
Speaker 2: Christopher DeAndre Mitchell or the cops who killed Glynn. Are
Speaker 2: the cops who killed Nannie Finlayson, who he is prosecuting,
Speaker 2: is the whistleblower. So we'll be standing outside the Hall
Speaker 2: of Injustice his office every single Wednesday. Please join us.
Speaker 2: We're gonna stand this Wednesday with dignity and power now
Speaker 2: as we uplift Black August. It's still Black August, so
Speaker 2: we want folks to join us. We got drumming, we
Speaker 2: got donuts, and we got good people again. That's Wednesday
Speaker 2: at four pm. And then on Saturday at four pm
Speaker 2: we are getting on the bus for Jaque Raven And
Speaker 2: I don't know if I haven't talked about him on
Speaker 2: the show, but Jacque is a young artist who is
Speaker 2: killed on January twenty second of this year at a
Speaker 2: mall in Riverside, and San Bernardino County sheriffs came and
Speaker 2: shot this young man as he was running away from them,
Speaker 2: shot him in the back, shot him again after he
Speaker 2: was down, handcuffed him after they killed him, and then
Speaker 2: it's been trying to drag his name through the mud.
Speaker 2: Last week when his family was protesting, the sheriff through
Speaker 2: letters at them saying that they're going to be prosecuted
Speaker 2: for protesting and that they're gonna find out who they
Speaker 2: are and where they live because they have flot cameras
Speaker 2: and they're using the flat cameras to identify all the protesters.
Speaker 2: So LA is going right for jaque On Saturday, you
Speaker 2: can get on the bus with us, we'll feed you
Speaker 2: and we'll go out to Sam Bernardino and protest, or
Speaker 2: actually we're going to Riverside. We'll protest with the family
Speaker 2: for Jaquay. So we want everybody to do that. And
Speaker 2: then lastly, every Tuesday afternoon we protest for Brian Vostik
Speaker 2: at Inglewood City Council. So we want folks to come
Speaker 2: out to ingle Wood City Hall on Tuesday at two pm.
Speaker 2: So it's a busy week and we get purpose out
Speaker 2: of protesting, right, we don't have to let the world
Speaker 2: go the way it's going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a few follow ups here before we run
Speaker 1: out of time for this half of the hour. When
Speaker 1: you talk about when you talk about the meeting up
Speaker 1: to go and protest on behalf of Jaqua Raven, that's
Speaker 1: four pm. What time are people meeting?
Speaker 2: And yeah, we're getting on the bus at four pm
Speaker 2: at the one United parking lot. So but we want
Speaker 2: people to sign up because we're not just letting everybody
Speaker 2: on the bus.
Speaker 1: Right, I gotcha? So they sign it, don't want Where
Speaker 1: do they sign up?
Speaker 2: TinyURL dot com slash bus for jaque and jaque is
Speaker 2: j a q u e tiny u are com bus
Speaker 2: four all spelled out the us FO R jequa jaque.
Speaker 1: Imagine killing somebody's loved one and then throwing stuff at
Speaker 1: them because they're upset that you murdered their loved one.
Speaker 1: It's mind boggling that human beings can behave in that manner.
Speaker 1: Human beings who also have loved ones, you would imagine,
Speaker 1: would understand that people would be upset when their loved
Speaker 1: ones were murdered. Unfathomable. And just to be clear, when
Speaker 1: you talk about the whistleblower, you're referring to the case
Speaker 1: where an LAPD officer recorded other officers who are supposed
Speaker 1: to be in charge of recruitment hundreds of recordings of
Speaker 1: them saying racist, sexist, homophobic, misogynistic things. Turn them over
Speaker 1: in hopes that those folks would be prosecuted, and intad
Speaker 1: our district attorney decided to prosecute the cop. And to me,
Speaker 1: this is a perfect example people who think it's just
Speaker 1: bad apples, which I'm not one of I think, you know,
Speaker 1: the whole system is the problem. But nevertheless, if you
Speaker 1: think that, and we wonder why the so called good
Speaker 1: cops are not doing the right thing. Case in point,
Speaker 1: I mean, here you go. The guy tries to turn in,
Speaker 1: you know, the people in charge of recruitment who are racist,
Speaker 1: sexist and misogynists, and he's facing thirteen years in jail,
Speaker 1: in prison.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. And what Nathan Hockman, because we
Speaker 2: got to put it on who does the buck stop
Speaker 2: with the buck stops with Nathan Hokman and the police chief.
Speaker 2: The police chief knew this was happening. The police chief
Speaker 2: has absolutely fostered and created an environment where rampant racism, sexism,
Speaker 2: and homophobia are the norm inside LAPD. And so Jim
Speaker 2: McDonald must go. But Nathan Hawkman, we also have to
Speaker 2: remember what it is he's trying to do. He is
Speaker 2: trying to not only harm Daniel Flores, harm the cop
Speaker 2: who dare tell on other cops. But what he's saying
Speaker 2: is if any cop doesn't respect the so called blue
Speaker 2: wall of silence, then they will be imprisoned. That is crazy,
Speaker 2: and that is so dangerous to Angelino. So we have
Speaker 2: to say, nah, it's not gonna go down like that.
Speaker 2: And you know, again, I don't shout out cops ever,
Speaker 2: but Daniel Flores did the right thing and we are
Speaker 2: appreciative of that act, and we have to say, no,
Speaker 2: that's not the cop that needs to be prosecuted. The
Speaker 2: cops that need to be prosecuted are the ones that
Speaker 2: kill our people and the ones who are racist, sexist,
Speaker 2: and homophobic and caught on tape for sure.
Speaker 1: Jerry Anderson's seven seven seven two says LAPD goes to
Speaker 1: the map protecting their killers. But this one's different. Yes,
Speaker 1: indeed it is, and I think that difference is oh
Speaker 1: so telling doctor Malina Abdullah is my guest. We've got news, traffic,
Speaker 1: and sports here and then more. You're invited in at
Speaker 1: eight hundred and nine to oh fifteen eighty. I'm Dominique
Speaker 1: de Prima, and you know where you're at waking up
Speaker 1: with me. You're also waking up with doctor Malina Abdullah.
Speaker 1: If you got something to say, eight hundred and nine
Speaker 1: to oh fifteen eighty, or hop into the comments on
Speaker 1: YouTube at KBLA fifteen eighty. Quamel says, these police forces
Speaker 1: and unions want no serpicose, they want the double standard
Speaker 1: squad and you know, it's it's it's not surprising to
Speaker 1: me that this goes on, but it is surprising to
Speaker 1: me that DA Nathan Hawkman would want to be so
Speaker 1: blatant about it. And I have been pleasantly surprised at
Speaker 1: the pushback that I'm seeing, not just from black media
Speaker 1: in this case, but even from some in the mainstream media,
Speaker 1: going what the what you know? You decided to prosecute
Speaker 1: who for what? Has the chief commented on this, doctor
Speaker 1: Malina Abdulah, because I haven't heard and I haven't seen anything.
Speaker 2: No, he has not, and he's justified it when it
Speaker 2: was raised inside the LA Police Commission meeting, he justified it.
Speaker 2: And we got to remember Daniel Flores tried to sound
Speaker 2: the alarm before he even started doing the recordings. The
Speaker 2: recordings are because they were like, you have no proof,
Speaker 2: and so he recorded in order to give the proof
Speaker 2: to the higher ups, to internal affairs, to the police Commission,
Speaker 2: and then he was prosecuted for doing what needed to
Speaker 2: be done. We also question why is Nathan Hockman prosecuted
Speaker 2: even if he was going to prosecute he had the
Speaker 2: he has absolute discretion to one either not prosecute, which
Speaker 2: he shouldn't have. He should have been prosecuting the hiring practices,
Speaker 2: those that were engaging in racism, right, why is he
Speaker 2: prosecuting in the first place. But also, you know, if
Speaker 2: you were going to prosecute in this case, why would
Speaker 2: you prosecute as a felony if you're not simply trying
Speaker 2: to show whose side you're on and trying to silence
Speaker 2: anybody who dares to speak out against racism with it.
Speaker 1: And what to be clear, what he's being, what the
Speaker 1: cop is being, the whistleblower prosecuted for, is because it's
Speaker 1: illegal to record someone without their knowledge, so priorities, you know,
Speaker 1: and the DA has made a big to do of saying, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we just can't go around recording people without
Speaker 1: their knowledge. Oh but it's okay to go around making
Speaker 1: sex this racist homophobic comments when you're in charge of
Speaker 1: gets who gets to be on the police force. Make
Speaker 1: it make sense.
Speaker 2: Well, let me just add one quick thing too. It's questionable.
Speaker 2: I'm not an attorney, but it's questionable whether that would
Speaker 2: even apply because there is an exception to that two
Speaker 2: party consent policy or two party consent law. When you're
Speaker 2: conducting an investigation, right, you are allowed to record without consent?
Speaker 2: And was this not an investigation? So I would argue
Speaker 2: it's not even this should not even be prosecutable at all.
Speaker 2: And I think that's the direction the stance that Daniel
Speaker 2: Flores' attorneys are taking as well. But he was forced
Speaker 2: to record because he had to investigate this.
Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, that investigation, I think is only
Speaker 1: for law enforcement. I don't think you and I can
Speaker 1: just be well, well.
Speaker 2: I was investigating, I'm investigating. I'm investigating this man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you could do that. Oh y'all
Speaker 1: learn something really crazy this weekend, doctor Malina Abdullah. And
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure why I'm telling you this, except
Speaker 1: for that I think you're crazy enough to appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Do you know that you can order on Postmates? You
Speaker 1: can order raw rattlesnake or what rattlesnake or rabbit?
Speaker 2: Well, people, I've eaten so my family's from Boma, Texas.
Speaker 2: Rattlesnake is actually delicious, as is rabbit. Oh lord, But
Speaker 2: I'm mostly a vegetarian now, so I wouldn't actually ordered
Speaker 2: that on postmates.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I've had rabbit. Sorry, I thought it
Speaker 1: was nasty, but I mean, I just I mean, we
Speaker 1: call ourselves a big city. I keep telling y'all, this
Speaker 1: is the country. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go on
Speaker 1: door Dash and order me some rattlesnake. You can get
Speaker 1: it wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might not need to go.
Speaker 1: On door Just go up to kenneth home part with
Speaker 1: a hope and I mean it has a handle, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I don't know you could go hunting rattlesnakes right now. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I digress. The opening statements are today in the trial
Speaker 1: of who killed Tupac Shakor? I Guess is the I
Speaker 1: guess that's the tagline, and it does feel like a production.
Speaker 1: You knew him, I think, Well, I know you knew
Speaker 1: Tupac better than I knew him. People think that I
Speaker 1: knew him really, really well because he put my clip
Speaker 1: on the album and I didn't know him. But I
Speaker 1: think you knew him much better than I did. You
Speaker 1: guys were actually pretty good friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's He's one of my most important people in
Speaker 2: my young life. And you know, I don't talk about
Speaker 2: it much because I feel like his spirit tells me
Speaker 2: not to talk about it much. But people who know
Speaker 2: me from when I was young, they know how close
Speaker 2: we were.
Speaker 1: So how are you feeling with this trial happening? You
Speaker 1: know this? You know they're going after Keithy d Dwayne Davis,
Speaker 1: saying that he ordered the nineteen ninety six shooting. Of
Speaker 1: course he's been Davis has been talking in the press
Speaker 1: and in his own book and on social media, so
Speaker 1: they're going to use all of that stuff. His defense
Speaker 1: is saying he didn't write the book. I don't know.
Speaker 1: That doesn't seem like a good strategy. I don't mean
Speaker 1: to laugh at him, but you know, I didn't write
Speaker 1: the book that says by me. He says he's innocent,
Speaker 1: didn't kill him. And Miles and one other artist that
Speaker 1: we had on we're saying that it feels very suspicious
Speaker 1: because of the timing, right, the thirty year anniversary and
Speaker 1: all of this sort of stuff that has a promotional feeling.
Speaker 1: Is that accurate? Was that an accurate description of what
Speaker 1: you said? Miles?
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean we're coming up on
Speaker 3: the thirty year anniversary of his passing and what two weeks, so,
Speaker 3: you know, a two week trial. Let's see what polymarketer
Speaker 3: like how she says about you know, taking a side
Speaker 3: bed on when they wrapped his trial up. But it'll
Speaker 3: probably be right around the time they can, like you said, marketing,
Speaker 3: that's the promotion. That's the great way to look at it.
Speaker 3: Right around the time of his thirty year passing anniversary.
Speaker 3: Let's see if everything's wrapped up right around there.
Speaker 1: As a friend, how are you feeling about it, Helena, I.
Speaker 2: Think Miles is right. It feels like a production and
Speaker 2: nothing that happens will bring him back. And so you
Speaker 2: know that's where I am. I'm honoring his spirit and
Speaker 2: nothing that happens will bring him back. And my prayer
Speaker 2: we went to Costa Rica a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 2: you know there were my prayer is, yeah, I hope
Speaker 2: he is. I hope every conspiracy is true. And I
Speaker 2: think what I share with you, if he is alive
Speaker 2: in Costa Rica, then I'm mad, how come he hasn't
Speaker 2: called me? You did say that.
Speaker 1: I was like, how would he know we were here?
Speaker 1: And how? But yeah, I mean there's there's rumors that
Speaker 1: he's what in Africa, Costa Rica, Cuba, Cuba, right, And
Speaker 1: I did meet a guy in Senegal that looked a
Speaker 1: lot like Pac.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about, you know, trolling everybody and sending
Speaker 1: back pictures by that. No, that would be mean, that
Speaker 1: would be too park of me to do that to y'all.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I hope they are true, but I
Speaker 1: don't believe that they are true. And I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just I'm happy that he's still that his name
Speaker 1: is still in our mouth, not just for this trial,
Speaker 1: but for his music and his impact. I don't know
Speaker 1: that I would have predicted that, you know, thirty years ago,
Speaker 1: and it's international. I've seen topography and T shirts and
Speaker 1: such all over the Motherland.
Speaker 2: And the young you know, I was in just around,
Speaker 2: but I was in Atlanta last week and everybody had
Speaker 2: on Tupac shirts. And I love that. I love that
Speaker 2: the young ones know who he is. They haven't forgotten.
Speaker 2: I love that we won't forget, and we continue to
Speaker 2: say his name. They say, when you speak the name
Speaker 2: of he's now an ancestor. When you speak the name
Speaker 2: of an ancestor, they continue to live. So we do
Speaker 2: speak his name. We speak his name, Tupac Shakoria, and
Speaker 2: we have to remember what is it. We're uplifting. We
Speaker 2: are uplift the best in him. Right when we uplift
Speaker 2: the best and who he is and who he was,
Speaker 2: what he brought to art, but also what he brought
Speaker 2: to resistance and brings to resistance, let's continue to lift
Speaker 2: that up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's well said. I personally believe and I wonder
Speaker 1: what you think about this that when Tupac was murdered,
Speaker 1: I feel we know that he was leaving death row,
Speaker 1: We know that he was on his way back to
Speaker 1: the Bay Area, and I feel like he was doubling
Speaker 1: down on his roots from the Black Panther Party, and
Speaker 1: that he was really looking at building power, building black
Speaker 1: power with his own organization in his own business label,
Speaker 1: m Slash Empire. That's what I believe when when his
Speaker 1: life was cut short.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean absolutely, there's a you know, again, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to go into everything, but you know, we
Speaker 2: were very, very close, and we had lots of conversations
Speaker 2: about what his trajectory, what he saw for his own life,
Speaker 2: and his intent in how he moved. And I think
Speaker 2: he was scary to a lot of We got to
Speaker 2: remember that Tupac wasn't scared to fight what was his
Speaker 2: trial about in New York. Right, Tupac wasn't scared, And
Speaker 2: I think he inspired and was able to speak to
Speaker 2: us in ways that you can only do through art.
Speaker 2: And so art was something that he used to speak revolution,
Speaker 2: and we have to remember that that's that's a way
Speaker 2: to awaken folks to our own power. And I think
Speaker 2: he was very conscious. I know he was very conscious
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 1: Paul says both of his daughters wore Tupac shirts on
Speaker 1: the regular, and E. C. Courtney says, I love rabbit
Speaker 1: with bitskits and gravy. Well, maybe I just hadn't had
Speaker 1: the proper preparation. Okay, so far, no does not taste
Speaker 1: like chicken eight hundred nine two, fifteen eighty. If you
Speaker 1: got something to say when we come forward, doctor Malina Abdula,
Speaker 1: I wonder if you would mind putting on your professor
Speaker 1: hat and talking a little bit about Black August. It's
Speaker 1: KBLA talk fifteen eighty, and we do have a lot
Speaker 1: to talk about. Welcome back, indeed, and doctor Malina Abdulah,
Speaker 1: the request has come in a couple times for someone
Speaker 1: to speak on Black August. We probably should have a
Speaker 1: whole show about it, but I thought you could at
Speaker 1: least give us the cliffs Notes version of what Black
Speaker 1: August is all about.
Speaker 2: Sure, so we want to absolutely lift up the courageous
Speaker 2: brothers inside of our California prison system, inside of their
Speaker 2: California prison system, and know that California, our California folks.
Speaker 2: We always give credit to other places, but we got
Speaker 2: to remember what was founded here. The Black Power movement
Speaker 2: was founded in California. Black Lives Matter was founded in California,
Speaker 2: and the prisoner's movement took root in California. Were at
Speaker 2: George Jackson, who's also from California. Pasadena is where they settled.
Speaker 2: The Jackson family settled, and George Jackson was just sixteen
Speaker 2: years old when the eyes of the state were set
Speaker 2: upon him. And then finally, at eighteen years old, he
Speaker 2: was imprisoned for allegedly stealing seventy dollars from a gas station.
Speaker 2: They sentenced him one year to life in prison, and
Speaker 2: of course held him. After he became more politicized, he
Speaker 2: started reading Kwame Terray Black Power. He started reading France
Speaker 2: Fanan and Marx and Lenin and mal Say Tongue and
Speaker 2: became a member of the Black Panther Party inside and
Speaker 2: he was ultimately assassinated inside of San Quentin on August
Speaker 2: twenty first, nineteen seventy one. Well, it wasn't just him
Speaker 2: by himself who was politicized and political inside of prisons, right,
Speaker 2: there was a whole growing group of imprisoned folks who
Speaker 2: were standing up and organizing themselves. And we know about
Speaker 2: the Solidad Brothers, We know about the way in which
Speaker 2: they were pushing back against abuse inside the prisons. And
Speaker 2: Comrade g Tu Sidiki, who many in the KBLA delegation know,
Speaker 2: is our dear friend and comrade and past a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago, he was one of the founders of
Speaker 2: something called Black August, which is about fighting for our
Speaker 2: political prisoners, specifically using the month of August to fight
Speaker 2: for our political prisoners. And we do that by fasting
Speaker 2: in the way that you do a Ramadan fast, so
Speaker 2: no food or or water from sun up to some sundown,
Speaker 2: or some of us do modified fast, like being more
Speaker 2: conscious of what you take into your body and into
Speaker 2: your spirit. You fast, you study, we train, and we fight.
Speaker 2: We fast, we study, we train, and we fight. So
Speaker 2: study is feeding our minds, feeding our intellect and every
Speaker 2: year we do a Black August read of Blood in
Speaker 2: My Eye, which is the book that was authored by
Speaker 2: Comrade George Jackson just weeks before he was assassinated on
Speaker 2: the prison yard. And in that book he talks about
Speaker 2: how we fight back. He talks about the concept of
Speaker 2: gorilla warfare. How do we fight back against the state
Speaker 2: that's much more armed, much better equipped than we are,
Speaker 2: And it's really the will of the people. So everybody
Speaker 2: can read along with us Blood in My Eye. You
Speaker 2: can pick it up from any black owned bookstore. I
Speaker 2: know that Reparations Book Club on Jefferson and Victoria has copies,
Speaker 2: so you can go there pick up Blood in My Eye.
Speaker 2: It's a really important read and you can read along
Speaker 2: with Kalanji Changa and me every Monday, and that's up
Speaker 2: on YouTube on Black Power Media YouTube. And then we
Speaker 2: train by keeping our bodies strong, and we fight by
Speaker 2: refusing to submit to a system that wants to kill us.
Speaker 1: Well, well, well, speaking of the system that wants to
Speaker 1: kill us, I wondered if you want to make a
Speaker 1: comment about Jason our days. He was a scholar from
Speaker 1: Cambridge University, young man forty who pretty young to be
Speaker 1: at Cambridge. He resigned because they were saying that he
Speaker 1: did plagiarism and there were some questions about his credentials.
Speaker 1: The UK Press did what the UK Press does, of
Speaker 1: something like one hundred and forty nine articles about him
Speaker 1: within a couple of weeks, and it looks like he
Speaker 1: took his own life. A lot of people are, you know,
Speaker 1: calling this out and saying the penalty for even if
Speaker 1: he did plagiarism should not be, you know, being hounded
Speaker 1: to death. The writer is taking it as a symbol
Speaker 1: of anti DEI that he wasn't qualified for his position.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's tragic and we should also be outraged, right,
Speaker 2: not just for him, but when we look at how
Speaker 2: black folks inside of academia are treated. Who is a
Speaker 2: sister who also suicided. She was she was a DEI
Speaker 2: vice president and she was treated terribly and she suicided
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. I forgot her name. I'll
Speaker 2: have to look it up. But this was here in
Speaker 2: the US, right, and we see this happening all over.
Speaker 2: We see the ways in which people who are doing
Speaker 2: righteous worker dragged by their universities. And I want to
Speaker 2: lift up my friend. The case I know the best
Speaker 2: is Tiffany Willoughby, her art at UC Irvine, who we
Speaker 2: want to make sure the delegation doesn't forget her. When
Speaker 2: students were protesting for a free palace Stein and police
Speaker 2: came in to beat the students, she did what a
Speaker 2: righteous professor should do, and she put her body in
Speaker 2: the way and she was arrested, and she said to
Speaker 2: the reporters, how can I have a career when my
Speaker 2: students don't have a future. She was brutally beaten. And
Speaker 2: now the UC system and U see Irvine has chosen
Speaker 2: to suspend this single black mother without pay and without
Speaker 2: health care. Even though the system went through and said
Speaker 2: she didn't really do anything wrong, the administrators, the white administrators,
Speaker 2: said that she did. And so this is the way
Speaker 2: that university systems that are also white supremacists teaches treat,
Speaker 2: especially outspoken black faculty members, because when we get our students,
Speaker 2: we deepen their intellectual We explore with them so that
Speaker 2: we can equip them with intellectual tools that help them
Speaker 2: se revolutionary.
Speaker 1: I think you're talking about Antoinette Candia Bailey. Is that
Speaker 1: who you're talking about?
Speaker 2: That's her yea from Linkedia Bailey. Yeah yes, yes, yes
Speaker 2: yeah that was.
Speaker 1: At Lincoln University. So not anything new, just a minute here.
Speaker 1: Remind folks and time flies in the mornings on the radio,
Speaker 1: doctor Malinea Abdulla. Remind folks where to find you and
Speaker 1: the work you do and.
Speaker 2: Tap in sure BLM grass Roots on all social media.
Speaker 2: BLM Los Angeles on Instagram for local stuff and watch
Speaker 2: the free Carmelo hashtag. There are hearings for Carmelo Anthony
Speaker 2: on the nineteenth and twentieth in Texas, which we plan
Speaker 2: to be there for our young brother.
Speaker 1: Well so so much moving, Doctor Malina Abdullah. That same day,
Speaker 1: the nineteenth, I think there's something for Carmelo Anthony. They're
Speaker 1: also doing something for Erskine Jenkins, right, and they're there's
Speaker 1: also something for the young man from Mississippi who went
Speaker 1: out on a boat with his friends, Nolan Wells and
Speaker 1: so called friends and never came back. So a lot
Speaker 1: is happening on August nineteenth. Definitely not a day to
Speaker 1: be doing nothing, Doctor Malina Abdullah. Thank you for all
Speaker 1: the work that you do and thanks for joining this morning.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Sister Dominique, appreciate you.
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