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Speaker 1: Okay, b La Talk fifteen eighty Good morning, Good morning,

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and God bless I'm Dominique Daprima. This show is called

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First Things First, and my first thing every day is prayer, given, thanksgiving,

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praises and asking for blessings from God, asking for the

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blessings of the ancestors and the elders. And let's go.

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We got a lot going on right now and a

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lot to talk about the way we do things on

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a Monday. We call them mindful Mondays because we're getting

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it together, putting our mentality in place for the week

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to come. Our one we look local, Our two we

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go national, international, and beyond. But we kick off the

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hour with mindfulness with a guided meditation and affirmation and

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an astrological outlook at the hands of meditation instructor, yoga

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teacher and astrologer Sahara Ali. And then in the third

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hour we do a deep dive with a hot topic

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of person or person's of interest. We did our messy

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Monday early this month, but we're just going to keep

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it a little tiny bit messy. Dell Harrison joins me,

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or not or very very very unmessy. Comedian Del Harrison

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joins me. In studio and we're talking our topic, our

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three celibacy. A lot of people are choosing it, some

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are doing it involuntarily. We'll talk about it. Yeah, So

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as you know, every hour you are welcome in it

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eight hundred and nine two fifteen eighty, eight hundred nine,

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two fifteen eighty. You're always welcome in the YouTube chat

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we stream there. The comments section features some great commentary

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from our KBLA delegation. We stream on Facebook and so

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can find it on YouTube. You can find it wherever

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you get your pods. I want to say happy birthday

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to Marcus Garvey today is his birthday and joining me

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in our one. Who could it be?

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Speaker 2: Some botifland all in nine, Miss Kathleen Best was Kevin

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thinking losing thirty nine was me? All of us were

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all of Nevins.

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Speaker 1: The Bosh is doing at the back of the nine

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smile beneath her nose every single day that you had

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the bet. This is what she's saying, Stop this ship.

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She is the president of the International and Intergalactic Prince

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Fan Club. She's the director and co founder of Black

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Lives Matter Grassroots and the lead organizer of bl m LA.

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She's also a professor Cal State, LA, doctor Melina Abdullah.

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Speaker 2: Yay, good morning, now I feel good. I hadn't played

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Wake Up sawing it, but Miles did.

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Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, and we didn't know he was talking about

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seven forty five in the morning. But happy Monday to you.

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And it is a pretty happy Monday, right, I mean

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from an organizing perspective, let's start off happy not just

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with starfish and coffee, but time, place and manner.

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Speaker 2: Yes, time, place and manner as the terrible restrictions that

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Cal States and you see have been using for the

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last two years to discipline and prosecute not only students

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but mostly students, also faculty and community. So it essentially

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limits free speech on campuses. And I know you've had

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Angel Marie Taylor on Tiffany Willoughby herad at U see

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I they use time, place and manner restrictions to justify

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her disciplinary action, disciplinary action against her, and we're saying

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that shouldn't be. You know that the the ucs and

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csus and colleges throughout this country have always been spaces

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of free speech and protest, and that is often uncomfortable,

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but that's how we won black studies in the first place,

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That's how we won voting rights, that's how we advocated

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for the end of apartheid in the Vietnam War and

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the ushering in of Black power, and even Black History

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Month was founded as a result of activism on college campuses.

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And so AB twenty five fifty one is a step

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forward in advancing free speech on campus which is under threat.

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And so thank you to everybody who called in. We

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were able to get the bill advanced out of Senate

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appropriations and on the Senate floor, and so of course

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this is the bill that was authored by South Central representative,

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South Central assembly woman herself a former student actor is

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Shahd Alwarri. And we still have more fight ahead. We

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have to get it past the Senate and past the

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Assembly floor. How can we face some opposition.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but they do say appropriations is where bills

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go to die. So the fact that they've made it

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out of appropriations is a big deal. I guess we

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still have to keep the pressure on. I mean, really,

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you know, for those of us who don't follow every

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bill and every committee, the fact of the matter is

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that somehow, over the past decade or more. We've allowed

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universities to modify the right to assemble, the right to protest,

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and that's unconstitutional. They have decided, yeah, you can protest,

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but only when, where and how. We say that's not protest,

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Speaker 2: That's right. So most campuses now have what they call

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a free speech area, and you're allowed to be only

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in that area. You're not allowed to use amplified sound

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like bullhorns in some We have cases on some campuses

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where someone handed out a flyer on the grass instead

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of on the pathway, and he was threatened. He was

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pulled and threatened with disenrollment for simply handing out a

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flyer on unpaved area. We have people who've been disciplined

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for putting flyers up on bulletin boards. We have a

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student at cal State Northridge who was convicted of felonies

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for protesting against the ice raids. And so this is

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stuff that we are not going to allow to happen,

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and we're going to advance free speech. Protest is not

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meant to make everybody comfortable.

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Speaker 1: It's meant to challenge, no doubt, And I do want

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to say, I mean it's great that it's out a committee,

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and of course you'll let us know when you know,

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when the next wave of calls and emails are needed.

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I do want to say that it's really been wonderful

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to watch assembly Member Shadel Hawai. You know, when she

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was running, I you know, I wasn't one hundred percent sure,

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different times, I went ahead and supported her. And I

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feel like she has something I'm no longer allowed to

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do apparently on the air. I can do it off

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the air, but she's really done an amazing job. So far,

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so good. I'd say, Well.

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Speaker 2: Let me say this. I was not a fan. I

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didn't like Shadai a worry I'm gonna I didn't dislike her,

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but you know, I felt like Boba Keeley was running

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for that district initially, and you know, of course I'm

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going to rock with Baba Akilley and I'm going how

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dare anybody run against Baba Killey? Right? Didn't know?

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Speaker 1: That's loyalty right there, That's yeah.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know her, but let me I have grown

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to really respect her, and she was recently elected. Last week,

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she was elected chair of the Progressive Caucus. She is

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one who is not backing down, and that's what we

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want in our elected to remember, our job is not

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even to I like her, So let me be straight.

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I like her now, I like her a whole lot.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I talked to her around these issues often. But we

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don't even have to like our elected If our electeds

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are willing to fight for us, that's what's important. And

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she has been willing to fight, and she's fighting on

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this in a bunch of other issues, and so I

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think that maybe at some point we could talk about

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what's happening inside the Democratic Party in California. We have

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a super majority, but it's a fight between the corporate

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own Dems, what they call the moderate Dems are the

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moderate caucus and the progressive Dems who are willing to fight.

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the fact we have a super majority Democratic legislature in California,

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yet our legislature is very, very tentative to do anything

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that's actually progressive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, it's a fight that we're seeing

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really all over the country, but in a way it

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seems ridiculous in California because we do have that super majority.

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Like in other places where democratic socialist candidates or progressive

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Dems who are not dssay are challenging these long time

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calcified corporate Dems. You know, it seems more right even

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New York, even though New York is considered a blue state.

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Speaker 2: Majority that's not changing. It's not gonna not be blue

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Speaker 1: And so the fact that the corporate dams or moderates

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here fights so hard to maintain their power and keep

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out the progressive aspects of the party, to me, it's

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just kind of baffling.

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Speaker 2: It is baffling. It's baffling that you have Justin Pearson

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in Tennessee, justin uh, what is it, John? What's justin

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Justin Jones? Justin Jones and Justin Pearson out of Tennessee

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where they stay, physical assaults, they've been blocked from even

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taking their seats sometimes, and they're willing to fight in Tennessee, right,

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more fight in California. And so when we have fighters

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like Shahdee al Warri, we have to surround them and

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encourage them, and then we have to push the others

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along and say there's no reason that you have to

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be a moderate Democrat. In a state like California, we

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can pass everything we want. We can pass Medicare for

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all or medical for all here in California. Why are

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we not passing universal health care? Why are we not

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passing a billionaire's tax? Why are we allowing there to

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even be conversation about voter restrictions in California, which is

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something we have to be aware of, you know. So

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let's encourage the progressive Dems and really grateful to Shade

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all Warri for authoring AB twenty five point fifty one.

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And we'll all need to be called to action to

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get it through.

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Speaker 1: No doubt. By encourage we mean push. Doctor Malina Abdullah's

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my guest. You're welcome in at eight hundred nine to

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fifteen eighty. I'm Dominique and this is KBLA Talk fifteen eighty.

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Now you're back to me, you're back to doctor Malina Abdulah.

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And before we run out of time, and I know

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but time flies on the radio as you well know,

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what do you guys going this week. I know Wednesday

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is the weekly protest at well, what do you call

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the Hall of Injustice, So talk about that and what

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else is up this week.

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Speaker 2: Sure, we got a full week, and of course it's

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Black August. So we kick it out this morning and

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I hope everybody is plugging in as we do this

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YouTube study session with Black Power Media where we're going

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through Blood in My Eye, So I co host with

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Kalanji Changa. This week we'll have doctor Dylan Rodriguez from

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you see Riverside joining us to talk about Blood in

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My Eye by George Jackson. And that's every Monday on

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Black Power Media YouTube. Then on Tuesday morning at nine am,

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we will be at the Police Commission meeting that's one

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hundred West first Street. We have to remember when we

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talk about that whistleblower and you know you've never ever

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heard me shout out a cup, but Daniel Flores did

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the right thing and telling on the racism and sexism

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and homophobia inside LAPD. And what we're doing is showing

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up at Police Commission meeting and asking why Jim McDonald

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is allowing the rampant racism, sexism and homophobia to take

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place take hold inside the hiring practices of LAPD. We're

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also reminding the mayor that she has the power to

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fire this absolutely terrible police chief. People can sign that

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petition at TinyURL dot com slash fire McDonald donald. That's

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fire mcd NNLLL fire McDonald. And we're showing up Tuesday morning,

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nine am, one hundred West First Street to make that

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demand Wednesday, and Bob a Chey would go every Wednesday,

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but I won't do him. Every Wednesday. We protest outside

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the District Attorney's office and Nathan Houtman continues to prove

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himself to be the devil that he is, and again

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he is choosing to prosecute Daniel flor as the whistleblower

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inside LAPD who told on them for the racism, sexism,

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in homophobia. He's prosecuting him with sixteen felony counts up

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to thirteen years in prison. He is not prosecuting the racists,

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he's not prosecuting the sexist. He's not prosecuting people for

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the hiring practices. He's not prosecuting the cops who killed

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Christopher DeAndre Mitchell or the cops who killed Glynn. Are

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the cops who killed Nannie Finlayson, who he is prosecuting,

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is the whistleblower. So we'll be standing outside the Hall

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of Injustice his office every single Wednesday. Please join us.

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We're gonna stand this Wednesday with dignity and power now

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as we uplift Black August. It's still Black August, so

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we want folks to join us. We got drumming, we

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got donuts, and we got good people again. That's Wednesday

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at four pm. And then on Saturday at four pm

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we are getting on the bus for Jaque Raven And

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I don't know if I haven't talked about him on

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the show, but Jacque is a young artist who is

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killed on January twenty second of this year at a

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mall in Riverside, and San Bernardino County sheriffs came and

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shot this young man as he was running away from them,

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shot him in the back, shot him again after he

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was down, handcuffed him after they killed him, and then

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it's been trying to drag his name through the mud.

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letters at them saying that they're going to be prosecuted

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for protesting and that they're gonna find out who they

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are and where they live because they have flot cameras

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and they're using the flat cameras to identify all the protesters.

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So LA is going right for jaque On Saturday, you

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can get on the bus with us, we'll feed you

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and we'll go out to Sam Bernardino and protest, or

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actually we're going to Riverside. We'll protest with the family

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for Jaquay. So we want everybody to do that. And

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then lastly, every Tuesday afternoon we protest for Brian Vostik

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at Inglewood City Council. So we want folks to come

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out to ingle Wood City Hall on Tuesday at two pm.

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So it's a busy week and we get purpose out

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of protesting, right, we don't have to let the world

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just a few follow ups here before we run

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out of time for this half of the hour. When

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you talk about when you talk about the meeting up

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to go and protest on behalf of Jaqua Raven, that's

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four pm. What time are people meeting?

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Speaker 2: And yeah, we're getting on the bus at four pm

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at the one United parking lot. So but we want

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people to sign up because we're not just letting everybody

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Speaker 1: Right, I gotcha? So they sign it, don't want Where

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do they sign up?

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Speaker 2: TinyURL dot com slash bus for jaque and jaque is

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four all spelled out the us FO R jequa jaque.

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Speaker 1: Imagine killing somebody's loved one and then throwing stuff at

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them because they're upset that you murdered their loved one.

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It's mind boggling that human beings can behave in that manner.

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Human beings who also have loved ones, you would imagine,

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would understand that people would be upset when their loved

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ones were murdered. Unfathomable. And just to be clear, when

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you talk about the whistleblower, you're referring to the case

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where an LAPD officer recorded other officers who are supposed

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to be in charge of recruitment hundreds of recordings of

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them saying racist, sexist, homophobic, misogynistic things. Turn them over

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in hopes that those folks would be prosecuted, and intad

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our district attorney decided to prosecute the cop. And to me,

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this is a perfect example people who think it's just

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bad apples, which I'm not one of I think, you know,

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the whole system is the problem. But nevertheless, if you

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think that, and we wonder why the so called good

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cops are not doing the right thing. Case in point,

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I mean, here you go. The guy tries to turn in,

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you know, the people in charge of recruitment who are racist,

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sexist and misogynists, and he's facing thirteen years in jail,

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in prison.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. And what Nathan Hockman, because we

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got to put it on who does the buck stop

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with the buck stops with Nathan Hokman and the police chief.

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The police chief knew this was happening. The police chief

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has absolutely fostered and created an environment where rampant racism, sexism,

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and homophobia are the norm inside LAPD. And so Jim

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McDonald must go. But Nathan Hawkman, we also have to

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remember what it is he's trying to do. He is

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trying to not only harm Daniel Flores, harm the cop

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who dare tell on other cops. But what he's saying

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is if any cop doesn't respect the so called blue

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wall of silence, then they will be imprisoned. That is crazy,

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and that is so dangerous to Angelino. So we have

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to say, nah, it's not gonna go down like that.

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And you know, again, I don't shout out cops ever,

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but Daniel Flores did the right thing and we are

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appreciative of that act, and we have to say, no,

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that's not the cop that needs to be prosecuted. The

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cops that need to be prosecuted are the ones that

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kill our people and the ones who are racist, sexist,

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and homophobic and caught on tape for sure.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Anderson's seven seven seven two says LAPD goes to

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the map protecting their killers. But this one's different. Yes,

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indeed it is, and I think that difference is oh

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so telling doctor Malina Abdullah is my guest. We've got news, traffic,

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and sports here and then more. You're invited in at

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eight hundred and nine to oh fifteen eighty. I'm Dominique

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de Prima, and you know where you're at waking up

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with me. You're also waking up with doctor Malina Abdullah.

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If you got something to say, eight hundred and nine

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to oh fifteen eighty, or hop into the comments on

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YouTube at KBLA fifteen eighty. Quamel says, these police forces

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and unions want no serpicose, they want the double standard

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squad and you know, it's it's it's not surprising to

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me that this goes on, but it is surprising to

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me that DA Nathan Hawkman would want to be so

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blatant about it. And I have been pleasantly surprised at

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the pushback that I'm seeing, not just from black media

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in this case, but even from some in the mainstream media,

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going what the what you know? You decided to prosecute

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who for what? Has the chief commented on this, doctor

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Malina Abdulah, because I haven't heard and I haven't seen anything.

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Speaker 2: No, he has not, and he's justified it when it

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was raised inside the LA Police Commission meeting, he justified it.

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And we got to remember Daniel Flores tried to sound

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the alarm before he even started doing the recordings. The

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recordings are because they were like, you have no proof,

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and so he recorded in order to give the proof

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to the higher ups, to internal affairs, to the police Commission,

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and then he was prosecuted for doing what needed to

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be done. We also question why is Nathan Hockman prosecuted

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even if he was going to prosecute he had the

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he has absolute discretion to one either not prosecute, which

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he shouldn't have. He should have been prosecuting the hiring practices,

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those that were engaging in racism, right, why is he

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prosecuting in the first place. But also, you know, if

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you were going to prosecute in this case, why would

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you prosecute as a felony if you're not simply trying

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to show whose side you're on and trying to silence

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anybody who dares to speak out against racism with it.

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Speaker 1: And what to be clear, what he's being, what the

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cop is being, the whistleblower prosecuted for, is because it's

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illegal to record someone without their knowledge, so priorities, you know,

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and the DA has made a big to do of saying, well,

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you know, we just can't go around recording people without

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their knowledge. Oh but it's okay to go around making

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sex this racist homophobic comments when you're in charge of

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gets who gets to be on the police force. Make

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it make sense.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me just add one quick thing too. It's questionable.

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I'm not an attorney, but it's questionable whether that would

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even apply because there is an exception to that two

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party consent policy or two party consent law. When you're

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conducting an investigation, right, you are allowed to record without consent?

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And was this not an investigation? So I would argue

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it's not even this should not even be prosecutable at all.

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And I think that's the direction the stance that Daniel

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Flores' attorneys are taking as well. But he was forced

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to record because he had to investigate this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, that investigation, I think is only

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for law enforcement. I don't think you and I can

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just be well, well.

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Speaker 2: I was investigating, I'm investigating. I'm investigating this man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you could do that. Oh y'all

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learn something really crazy this weekend, doctor Malina Abdullah. And

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I'm not quite sure why I'm telling you this, except

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for that I think you're crazy enough to appreciate it.

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Do you know that you can order on Postmates? You

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can order raw rattlesnake or what rattlesnake or rabbit?

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Speaker 2: Well, people, I've eaten so my family's from Boma, Texas.

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Rattlesnake is actually delicious, as is rabbit. Oh lord, But

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I'm mostly a vegetarian now, so I wouldn't actually ordered

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that on postmates.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean I've had rabbit. Sorry, I thought it

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was nasty, but I mean, I just I mean, we

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call ourselves a big city. I keep telling y'all, this

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is the country. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go on

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door Dash and order me some rattlesnake. You can get

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it wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you might not need to go.

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Speaker 1: On door Just go up to kenneth home part with

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a hope and I mean it has a handle, yeah,

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because I don't know you could go hunting rattlesnakes right now. Anyway,

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I digress. The opening statements are today in the trial

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of who killed Tupac Shakor? I Guess is the I

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guess that's the tagline, and it does feel like a production.

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You knew him, I think, Well, I know you knew

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Tupac better than I knew him. People think that I

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knew him really, really well because he put my clip

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on the album and I didn't know him. But I

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think you knew him much better than I did. You

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guys were actually pretty good friends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's He's one of my most important people in

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my young life. And you know, I don't talk about

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it much because I feel like his spirit tells me

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not to talk about it much. But people who know

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me from when I was young, they know how close

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we were.

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Speaker 1: So how are you feeling with this trial happening? You

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know this? You know they're going after Keithy d Dwayne Davis,

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saying that he ordered the nineteen ninety six shooting. Of

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course he's been Davis has been talking in the press

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and in his own book and on social media, so

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they're going to use all of that stuff. His defense

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is saying he didn't write the book. I don't know.

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That doesn't seem like a good strategy. I don't mean

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to laugh at him, but you know, I didn't write

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the book that says by me. He says he's innocent,

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didn't kill him. And Miles and one other artist that

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we had on we're saying that it feels very suspicious

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because of the timing, right, the thirty year anniversary and

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all of this sort of stuff that has a promotional feeling.

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Is that accurate? Was that an accurate description of what

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you said? Miles?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean we're coming up on

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the thirty year anniversary of his passing and what two weeks, so,

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you know, a two week trial. Let's see what polymarketer

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like how she says about you know, taking a side

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bed on when they wrapped his trial up. But it'll

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probably be right around the time they can, like you said, marketing,

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that's the promotion. That's the great way to look at it.

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Right around the time of his thirty year passing anniversary.

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Let's see if everything's wrapped up right around there.

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Speaker 1: As a friend, how are you feeling about it, Helena, I.

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Speaker 2: Think Miles is right. It feels like a production and

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nothing that happens will bring him back. And so you

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know that's where I am. I'm honoring his spirit and

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nothing that happens will bring him back. And my prayer

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we went to Costa Rica a couple of weeks ago,

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you know there were my prayer is, yeah, I hope

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he is. I hope every conspiracy is true. And I

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think what I share with you, if he is alive

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in Costa Rica, then I'm mad, how come he hasn't

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called me? You did say that.

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Speaker 1: I was like, how would he know we were here?

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And how? But yeah, I mean there's there's rumors that

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he's what in Africa, Costa Rica, Cuba, Cuba, right, And

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I did meet a guy in Senegal that looked a

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lot like Pac.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about, you know, trolling everybody and sending

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back pictures by that. No, that would be mean, that

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would be too park of me to do that to y'all.

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But I mean, I hope they are true, but I

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don't believe that they are true. And I don't know.

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I just I'm happy that he's still that his name

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is still in our mouth, not just for this trial,

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but for his music and his impact. I don't know

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that I would have predicted that, you know, thirty years ago,

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and it's international. I've seen topography and T shirts and

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such all over the Motherland.

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Speaker 2: And the young you know, I was in just around,

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but I was in Atlanta last week and everybody had

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on Tupac shirts. And I love that. I love that

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the young ones know who he is. They haven't forgotten.

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I love that we won't forget, and we continue to

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say his name. They say, when you speak the name

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of he's now an ancestor. When you speak the name

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of an ancestor, they continue to live. So we do

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speak his name. We speak his name, Tupac Shakoria, and

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we have to remember what is it. We're uplifting. We

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are uplift the best in him. Right when we uplift

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the best and who he is and who he was,

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what he brought to art, but also what he brought

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to resistance and brings to resistance, let's continue to lift

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that up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's well said. I personally believe and I wonder

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what you think about this that when Tupac was murdered,

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I feel we know that he was leaving death row,

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We know that he was on his way back to

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the Bay Area, and I feel like he was doubling

482
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down on his roots from the Black Panther Party, and

483
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that he was really looking at building power, building black

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power with his own organization in his own business label,

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m Slash Empire. That's what I believe when when his

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life was cut short.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean absolutely, there's a you know, again, I'm

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not going to go into everything, but you know, we

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were very, very close, and we had lots of conversations

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about what his trajectory, what he saw for his own life,

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and his intent in how he moved. And I think

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he was scary to a lot of We got to

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remember that Tupac wasn't scared to fight what was his

494
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trial about in New York. Right, Tupac wasn't scared, And

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I think he inspired and was able to speak to

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us in ways that you can only do through art.

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And so art was something that he used to speak revolution,

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and we have to remember that that's that's a way

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to awaken folks to our own power. And I think

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he was very conscious. I know he was very conscious

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of that.

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Speaker 1: Paul says both of his daughters wore Tupac shirts on

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the regular, and E. C. Courtney says, I love rabbit

504
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,079
with bitskits and gravy. Well, maybe I just hadn't had

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the proper preparation. Okay, so far, no does not taste

506
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like chicken eight hundred nine two, fifteen eighty. If you

507
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got something to say when we come forward, doctor Malina Abdula,

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I wonder if you would mind putting on your professor

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hat and talking a little bit about Black August. It's

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KBLA talk fifteen eighty, and we do have a lot

511
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to talk about. Welcome back, indeed, and doctor Malina Abdulah,

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the request has come in a couple times for someone

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to speak on Black August. We probably should have a

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whole show about it, but I thought you could at

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least give us the cliffs Notes version of what Black

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August is all about.

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Speaker 2: Sure, so we want to absolutely lift up the courageous

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brothers inside of our California prison system, inside of their

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California prison system, and know that California, our California folks.

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We always give credit to other places, but we got

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to remember what was founded here. The Black Power movement

522
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was founded in California. Black Lives Matter was founded in California,

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and the prisoner's movement took root in California. Were at

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George Jackson, who's also from California. Pasadena is where they settled.

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The Jackson family settled, and George Jackson was just sixteen

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years old when the eyes of the state were set

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upon him. And then finally, at eighteen years old, he

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was imprisoned for allegedly stealing seventy dollars from a gas station.

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They sentenced him one year to life in prison, and

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of course held him. After he became more politicized, he

531
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started reading Kwame Terray Black Power. He started reading France

532
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,800
Fanan and Marx and Lenin and mal Say Tongue and

533
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,519
became a member of the Black Panther Party inside and

534
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:51,840
he was ultimately assassinated inside of San Quentin on August

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twenty first, nineteen seventy one. Well, it wasn't just him

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by himself who was politicized and political inside of prisons, right,

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there was a whole growing group of imprisoned folks who

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were standing up and organizing themselves. And we know about

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00:35:10,199 --> 00:35:12,760
the Solidad Brothers, We know about the way in which

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they were pushing back against abuse inside the prisons. And

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Comrade g Tu Sidiki, who many in the KBLA delegation know,

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is our dear friend and comrade and past a couple

543
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,840
of years ago, he was one of the founders of

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something called Black August, which is about fighting for our

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political prisoners, specifically using the month of August to fight

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for our political prisoners. And we do that by fasting

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in the way that you do a Ramadan fast, so

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no food or or water from sun up to some sundown,

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or some of us do modified fast, like being more

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conscious of what you take into your body and into

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00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:57,280
your spirit. You fast, you study, we train, and we fight.

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We fast, we study, we train, and we fight. So

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study is feeding our minds, feeding our intellect and every

554
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,239
year we do a Black August read of Blood in

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00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,400
My Eye, which is the book that was authored by

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Comrade George Jackson just weeks before he was assassinated on

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the prison yard. And in that book he talks about

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how we fight back. He talks about the concept of

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00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:29,320
gorilla warfare. How do we fight back against the state

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that's much more armed, much better equipped than we are,

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And it's really the will of the people. So everybody

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can read along with us Blood in My Eye. You

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can pick it up from any black owned bookstore. I

564
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:47,760
know that Reparations Book Club on Jefferson and Victoria has copies,

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so you can go there pick up Blood in My Eye.

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It's a really important read and you can read along

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with Kalanji Changa and me every Monday, and that's up

568
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,639
on YouTube on Black Power Media YouTube. And then we

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train by keeping our bodies strong, and we fight by

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refusing to submit to a system that wants to kill us.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, well, speaking of the system that wants to

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kill us, I wondered if you want to make a

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comment about Jason our days. He was a scholar from

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Cambridge University, young man forty who pretty young to be

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at Cambridge. He resigned because they were saying that he

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did plagiarism and there were some questions about his credentials.

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The UK Press did what the UK Press does, of

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00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,400
something like one hundred and forty nine articles about him

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within a couple of weeks, and it looks like he

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took his own life. A lot of people are, you know,

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calling this out and saying the penalty for even if

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he did plagiarism should not be, you know, being hounded

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to death. The writer is taking it as a symbol

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of anti DEI that he wasn't qualified for his position.

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What are your thoughts on it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's tragic and we should also be outraged, right,

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not just for him, but when we look at how

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black folks inside of academia are treated. Who is a

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sister who also suicided. She was she was a DEI

590
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:31,639
vice president and she was treated terribly and she suicided

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00:38:31,679 --> 00:38:35,000
a couple of years ago. I forgot her name. I'll

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have to look it up. But this was here in

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the US, right, and we see this happening all over.

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We see the ways in which people who are doing

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righteous worker dragged by their universities. And I want to

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lift up my friend. The case I know the best

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00:38:50,199 --> 00:38:54,679
is Tiffany Willoughby, her art at UC Irvine, who we

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00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,840
want to make sure the delegation doesn't forget her. When

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students were protesting for a free palace Stein and police

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00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:04,280
came in to beat the students, she did what a

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00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,840
righteous professor should do, and she put her body in

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the way and she was arrested, and she said to

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the reporters, how can I have a career when my

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students don't have a future. She was brutally beaten. And

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now the UC system and U see Irvine has chosen

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to suspend this single black mother without pay and without

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00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:33,239
health care. Even though the system went through and said

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she didn't really do anything wrong, the administrators, the white administrators,

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00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,440
said that she did. And so this is the way

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that university systems that are also white supremacists teaches treat,

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especially outspoken black faculty members, because when we get our students,

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we deepen their intellectual We explore with them so that

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we can equip them with intellectual tools that help them

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se revolutionary.

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Speaker 1: I think you're talking about Antoinette Candia Bailey. Is that

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who you're talking about?

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Speaker 2: That's her yea from Linkedia Bailey. Yeah yes, yes, yes

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yeah that was.

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Speaker 1: At Lincoln University. So not anything new, just a minute here.

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Remind folks and time flies in the mornings on the radio,

621
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doctor Malinea Abdulla. Remind folks where to find you and

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00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:23,679
the work you do and.

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Speaker 2: Tap in sure BLM grass Roots on all social media.

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BLM Los Angeles on Instagram for local stuff and watch

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00:40:33,199 --> 00:40:38,079
the free Carmelo hashtag. There are hearings for Carmelo Anthony

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on the nineteenth and twentieth in Texas, which we plan

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to be there for our young brother.

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Speaker 1: Well so so much moving, Doctor Malina Abdullah. That same day,

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the nineteenth, I think there's something for Carmelo Anthony. They're

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also doing something for Erskine Jenkins, right, and they're there's

631
00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:04,079
also something for the young man from Mississippi who went

632
00:41:04,119 --> 00:41:07,039
out on a boat with his friends, Nolan Wells and

633
00:41:07,199 --> 00:41:09,559
so called friends and never came back. So a lot

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is happening on August nineteenth. Definitely not a day to

635
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:16,199
be doing nothing, Doctor Malina Abdullah. Thank you for all

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the work that you do and thanks for joining this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Sister Dominique, appreciate you.

638
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Speaker 1: It is time to get our heads on right, to

639
00:41:27,199 --> 00:41:32,360
get our intentions in alignment. Sahara Ali, the yoga instructor,

640
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:37,639
meditation teacher, and astrologer, joins US next after news, traffic,

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00:41:37,679 --> 00:41:39,559
and sports, only right here