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<v Speaker 1>Dave Frasier, it's our last visit for the year today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I just asked day Rob. That's to confirm.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of figured out with both Christmas and New

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<v Speaker 2>Year's falling on Wednesday, So let's enjoy it today. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, happy one hundreds. What a great institution.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much. We do deserve to be institutionalized

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<v Speaker 1>over here at KOA, and so we appreciate them. Warm

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<v Speaker 1>witches on our hundredth birthday. All right, first off, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just cut to the chase. What are our chances for

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<v Speaker 1>a white Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not great. Unfortunately, we're just in this big

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<v Speaker 2>kind of dry pattern and it doesn't look to break down.

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<v Speaker 2>The mountains have seen some pushes of snow. We had

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<v Speaker 2>one last night, they'll get another push come Monday, late

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday Monday, and then there could be another one late

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<v Speaker 2>in the day on Christmas in the mountains. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you do look on you know, if you want a

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<v Speaker 2>white Christmas and you're in Denver and along the Front Range,

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<v Speaker 2>it will be snow in the mountains. But for the

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<v Speaker 2>Front Range, it's just not looking great. At this point.

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<v Speaker 2>We have nothing but fifty five to sixty Greek temperatures

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<v Speaker 2>expected all the way through the holiday, so it's just

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<v Speaker 2>not there for us. So if you got me snow

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<v Speaker 2>on the ground, I got patches here and that are

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<v Speaker 2>hiding in the shadows. Hopefully that'll still be around come

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you know what, though, I gotta tell you, winter

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<v Speaker 1>with fifty to sixty degrees doesn't suck. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't hate that. I actually kind of enjoy that. So

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<v Speaker 1>I know the kids, if they get new sleds for Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>will be a little disappointed. But you're just gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the mountains to find that. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>got a bunch of questions to ask you from our listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>and the first of which is a really really good one.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this question. Can you please ask Dave what

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<v Speaker 1>is the proper way to measure snow here at eight

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<v Speaker 1>thousand feet. I wait until the storm is over and

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<v Speaker 1>will measure, let's say, eighteen inches. My neighbor will repeatedly

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<v Speaker 1>clean off an area and measure multiple times and add

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<v Speaker 1>those numbers together and we'll come up with twenty four inches,

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<v Speaker 1>in your opinion, which is more accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>The clearing off actually does give you the total snow

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<v Speaker 2>that fell during the event, because if you wait until

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<v Speaker 2>the end, especially if it's a heavy wet snow, the

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<v Speaker 2>snow's going to compact and it's going to melt a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. So you're better off doing variations. Same as

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<v Speaker 2>through for shoveling. We talk about that all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>We're dealing with. You know, a foot or two feet

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<v Speaker 2>of snow, don't wait for it to finish, go out

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<v Speaker 2>and chip away at it. So there is if you

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<v Speaker 2>go to the National Weather Service website and just google

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<v Speaker 2>National Weather Service and you'll go to the Boulder office,

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<v Speaker 2>there is on there you can find a spot where

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<v Speaker 2>they do tell you how to officially do it you want.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called the whiteboard, and you have to put the

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<v Speaker 2>whiteboard out, you have to measure it and has to

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<v Speaker 2>be in the area. But you know, listen, snow measurements.

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<v Speaker 2>There's an official way to do it. But the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>line is as you measure it your neighborhood and your

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<v Speaker 2>next neighbor you're going to find subtle differences in measurements.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you were going to do it for the

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<v Speaker 2>totality of an event, I would say you would chip

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<v Speaker 2>away at it, sweep it off, measure what falls measure

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<v Speaker 2>the next one that falls every six hours or so.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's one for you, Dave. How does the January weather

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<v Speaker 1>look like? Blizzards are mild? Like now, Merry Christmas. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess he's asking really about what long range weather patterns

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<v Speaker 1>we're seeing, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the long range weather patterns haven't changed. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be in an out medio pattern, which means

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<v Speaker 2>that Denver in the front range should do okay by

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the season, meaning we'll have close to

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<v Speaker 2>our fifty three inches of snow. As you know, of

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<v Speaker 2>October helped us out, no excusan November helped us out.

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<v Speaker 2>We're ahead for the year. We're at a little more

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<v Speaker 2>than forty percent of the entire season, and we still

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<v Speaker 2>have all of January, February, March, April or two snow

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<v Speaker 2>this months, so we're in pretty good shape. And the

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<v Speaker 2>snow pack in the mountains is still running at more

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<v Speaker 2>than one hundred percent. So this pattern we're in is

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<v Speaker 2>going to have prolonged dry periods, long periods like we're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing now. We'll see through Christmas. But that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>we won't get bouts of snow like we did back

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<v Speaker 2>in early November when we got that four days of

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<v Speaker 2>measurable snow and on that Friday we had almost ten inches.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, it never really gives you the day

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<v Speaker 2>to day pattern. But I think overall, when things are

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<v Speaker 2>said and done, we'll find a near average snow season.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, here's the question for you. These are good

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<v Speaker 1>questions today. What is it about the geographical triangle between

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado Springs, Canyon City and Pueblo. It seems to render

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<v Speaker 1>it a precipitation desert. The rain and snow seem to

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<v Speaker 1>circumvent this area unless the weather comes in from the

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<v Speaker 1>east in some fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So that's again topography. The geographical features, our mountains,

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<v Speaker 2>our foothills are divided like the Palmer Divide. All of

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<v Speaker 2>those features playing into what we call micro climate. So

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<v Speaker 2>depending on where you are, wind will favor you in

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<v Speaker 2>one direction but not in another. And that area is

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<v Speaker 2>at a lower elevation. That is correct, that area down

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<v Speaker 2>there from Colorado Springs, Canyon City over the pebble, you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to want a straight easterly flow. If we have

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<v Speaker 2>a big storm that sets up with the northeasterly flow

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<v Speaker 2>for Denver and the Palmer Divide, we do very very

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<v Speaker 2>well with snow. But on the other side of the divide,

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<v Speaker 2>going into Colorado Springs and continuing to head south, that

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<v Speaker 2>same wind direction does not favor snow into those areas.

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<v Speaker 2>So wind direction, wind speed is key. And unfortunately that

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<v Speaker 2>area is just kind of if you look at it

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<v Speaker 2>on a map, you'll see that it is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>sitting down on a flat spot. It needs really a

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<v Speaker 2>straight easterly wind and sometimes that's hard to get well.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have a question from another part of Denver

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<v Speaker 1>or another part of Colorado is kind of the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Ask Dave why the northern portion of the Front Range, Johnstown,

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<v Speaker 1>BERTHETT is a desert while Denver in south is wet.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it the same answer only on the other end.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, same thing. It's all dependent on windflow. Those areas

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<v Speaker 2>are east of I twenty five, so they're not close

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<v Speaker 2>enough to benefit from the higher elevations west of EYE

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five as you approach the foothills, so they don't

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<v Speaker 2>get as much lift. A northeasterly wind should get them

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<v Speaker 2>some snow, but they won't get the depth of snow

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<v Speaker 2>that you will as you go west of I twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>and that area is in a dead spot because the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing is true. We talk about the Palmer Divide

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<v Speaker 2>that rides in elevation as you leave Denver go over

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<v Speaker 2>Monument Hill and then down into Colorado Springs. Well, there's

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<v Speaker 2>also the Cheyenne Ridge runs east to west, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is another area that if we have a west, a

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<v Speaker 2>north or northwest of the wind coming up and over

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<v Speaker 2>the ridge out of Wyoming down into Fort Collins Loveland

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<v Speaker 2>and heading towards the Johnstown and Berthed areas, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>downsloping wind, that's a drying wind, and they get nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>And you'll see me and hear me talk about that

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<v Speaker 2>all the time when you see me talking about snowfall

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<v Speaker 2>totals and you see this big area of nothing. You

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<v Speaker 2>go Denver. Like the last event we had, Denver got

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<v Speaker 2>you had to get into the city to find two inches.

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<v Speaker 2>You had to go southwest of the city to find

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<v Speaker 2>four inches. But if you left the city and went

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<v Speaker 2>north Buckkiss nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is an odd question, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if this is in your field of expertise or not. Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>has the magnetic field changed because waterfowl migration has changed

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, and the weather as well. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess they're asking, does a magnetic field how much does

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<v Speaker 1>that play in weather?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is a little out of my expertise. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it does. We know it's changed over time. As

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<v Speaker 2>far as you know, that would be a little lofty

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<v Speaker 2>for me to try and figure out. I'd have to

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<v Speaker 2>go do some studying, and I finished college a long

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<v Speaker 2>time ago, so I wouldn't be able to answer that

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<v Speaker 2>with any type of authority. So I'll let that work pass.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I appreciate that, Dave, because I don't know it either.

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<v Speaker 1>Last question from our text line, Dave, should we do

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<v Speaker 1>some watering because of how dry it is and will

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<v Speaker 1>continue to be? Do we need to water our trees?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, no question about it. It never hurts in

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<v Speaker 2>these dry periods in winter because you're not getting the

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<v Speaker 2>benefit of higher humidity. The air is very, very dry.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though the trees and the shrubs are dormant, they

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<v Speaker 2>could use a little bit of a drink, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you could do a little bit that. Don't worry about

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<v Speaker 2>your grass. Grass is con dormant, that's not an issue.

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<v Speaker 2>But any trees and shrubs that are healthy looking and

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<v Speaker 2>you want to protect them. It never hurts to run

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<v Speaker 2>a little water on them. You don't have to do

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<v Speaker 2>it daily, but just feed them a little bit here

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<v Speaker 2>and there during dry period. So especially with this stretch

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be having. I've got fifty to sixty

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<v Speaker 2>degree days, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Dave Frasier, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, all that

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<v Speaker 1>good stuff to you, and we'll talk to you next year, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>see you next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, Happy holiday school all right

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Dave Frasier.