Speaker 1: It is seven twenty eight here at fifty five kre
Speaker 1: CD talk station. And man, I got to know pretty
Speaker 1: well over the years. I think the world of him,
Speaker 1: and I think he did a wonderful job. And he
Speaker 1: was sheriff here in Hamilton County. Jim Neil, who is
Speaker 1: running for sheriff against the current incumbent, Charmage McGuffey. Welcome back, Sheriff,
Speaker 1: Jim oh former sheriff now soon to be sheriff again hopefully,
Speaker 1: Jim Neil. Good to have you on the program, sir, Hey, it's.
Speaker 2: Good to be here. Ryan. Thank you for the opportunity.
Speaker 1: Pleasure to do it. I'll recommend folks check you out online.
Speaker 1: Vote Jim Neil and Eil vote Jimneil dot com. It's
Speaker 1: your website for your campaign as well. Run out the
Speaker 1: clock here. We're getting fast approaching next Tuesday. Clearly stayed
Speaker 1: in the obvious, Jim, your final opportunity to sway the
Speaker 1: hearts and minds of my listeners. May most of whom
Speaker 1: I'm going to assume support you anyway, but you've got
Speaker 1: to differentiate yourself between the current administration and Charmeae mcguffee. Uh,
Speaker 1: my understanding and you can go ahead and spring from
Speaker 1: what I have learned through little birds whispering in my
Speaker 1: ear and speaking with people who work in the sheriff'sawice
Speaker 1: morale not so hot right now, and uh, and it
Speaker 1: is a failure of leadership more than anything. What's your
Speaker 1: take on that, gym?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Uh. And it starts from the top. As you know,
Speaker 2: Sheriff McGuffey, when she was a major with the Sheriff's office,
Speaker 2: there was an official complaint filed on her for creating
Speaker 2: a hostile work environment and uh, and that complaint was sustained.
Speaker 2: And you know what, she hasn't changed, and she's she's
Speaker 2: a bully and uh, she's very vindictive. And that's that's
Speaker 2: a poor leadership quality. Uh. So it's hard to maintain, uh,
Speaker 2: staffing levels in an environment like that. I mean, you
Speaker 2: can recruit, but it's keeping them, Ryan, it's keeping them.
Speaker 2: And the stamping levels are definitely down in the Sheriff's office.
Speaker 2: In a lot stems from leadership. But before I go
Speaker 2: any further, I want to remind you and everybody else
Speaker 2: that I'm endorsed by Christopher Smitherman. She is endorsed by
Speaker 2: George sorrows. Can we explain the difference between she is
Speaker 2: a political activist sheriff. I was the people sheriff. I
Speaker 2: was focused on public safety and law enforcement, law and order,
Speaker 2: following the rule of law. That's why I'm sitting here
Speaker 2: talking to you, trying to get my job back, because
Speaker 2: I wasn't willing to go down that road sell my
Speaker 2: soul to the devil to keep a job.
Speaker 1: You know, it's an excellent observation. Law enforcement is I
Speaker 1: should be politically neutral. I don't know how being a
Speaker 1: Republican or Democrat has anything to do with your focus
Speaker 1: on keeping criminals off the streets, or arresting criminals or
Speaker 1: chasing down bad guys. Basically enforcing the law. The laws
Speaker 1: on the books just enforce it, so it shouldn't bear
Speaker 1: a political stripe. You don't need to go out and
Speaker 1: keep talking politics while you are sheriff. You just need
Speaker 1: to create a great work environment, provide your people with
Speaker 1: the resources they need, and encourage them to do their
Speaker 1: job and get the bad guys. Now she has politicized it.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen her in doing anything
Speaker 1: other than attending like LGBTQ plus parade events and you know,
Speaker 1: pointing out over and over and over again and leading
Speaker 1: a lot with the fact that she's the first you know,
Speaker 1: I guess lesbian sheriff or something. This is twenty twenty four, Jim.
Speaker 1: No one gives a crap about your sexual identity. No
Speaker 1: one cares who you choose to sleep with. Are you
Speaker 1: effective at the job? Have you demonstraly proven that you
Speaker 1: are a good person to be there right right?
Speaker 2: And let's equate that with quality law enforcement? I don't
Speaker 2: see it. We have some great men and women that
Speaker 2: work in the Sheriff's office, but it's a failure under
Speaker 2: her leadership.
Speaker 1: How do you right the ship, Jim.
Speaker 2: Oh, effective leadership, It starts from the top. These men
Speaker 2: and women signed up to enforce the laws, to uphold
Speaker 2: the constitution. That's what they want to do. They don't
Speaker 2: want to enforce political agendas. And that's what's happening in
Speaker 2: law enforcement in Hamilton County. With the larger agencies Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: The officers are being blocked and not allowed to do
Speaker 2: their job the sheriff's office because of the leadership and
Speaker 2: following the political agenda. They're not as effective as they
Speaker 2: could be either. I mean, the two largest agencies in
Speaker 2: the county are failing us because of leadership, poor leadership.
Speaker 2: And I'm talking about and I'm talking about the sheriff,
Speaker 2: and I'm talking about city council that leans on the
Speaker 2: current police chief, not allowing her to do her job. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's why. But this is why I love the politics, Brian.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to the politics. Whether I'm
Speaker 2: a Democrat or whether I'm a Republican, that's not going
Speaker 2: to affect how I run that office. But it gets
Speaker 2: me into the office, so I can be the people's sheriff,
Speaker 2: not influenced by politics because I answer to no politician.
Speaker 2: I answer to you, Brian, I answer to Joe, I
Speaker 2: answer to all of your listeners. And that's what's great
Speaker 2: about the office of the sheriff is that I if
Speaker 2: I don't want the office to be political, it won't
Speaker 2: be political because I do not. I'm not appointed by
Speaker 2: a politician. I'm elected by the people. So we got
Speaker 2: to keep it that way. But once you're elected sheriff,
Speaker 2: you've got to keep the politics out of law enforcement.
Speaker 2: You're doom for failure. The current administration is failing.
Speaker 1: Put an exclamation point on that. For everything I've heard,
Speaker 1: so I'll tell you what. Let's take an early break here,
Speaker 1: I'll bring it back. I want to talk about a
Speaker 1: couple of other hot button issues that are going on,
Speaker 1: and one of them happens to be immigration. Lachlan, of
Speaker 1: course within Hamilton County. I want to get your perception
Speaker 1: of immigration, whether it has anything to do with crime,
Speaker 1: and what are the current statistics regarding crime. Local news
Speaker 1: keeps telling us that there isn't and hasn't been an
Speaker 1: increase in crime. In fact, it's dropping off. I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit skeptical or jaded and cynical over that conclusion
Speaker 1: under the circumstances. So we'll get Jim's take on those issues.
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Speaker 1: The other key to law enforcement here in Hamilon County
Speaker 1: Prosecutor Melissa Powers joins the program to give us a
Speaker 1: final push to put her and her rather keep her
Speaker 1: in office Judge of Paulatano at eight thirty. The meantime,
Speaker 1: Jim Neil, former sheriff soon to be hopefully again sheriff.
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Speaker 1: Now the National news has stumbled upon the issue that's
Speaker 1: going on in Lochland. And I'm not picking on Lachland.
Speaker 1: It's just that it happens to be in the national
Speaker 1: news within the last week. Three thousand, three thousand immigrants,
Speaker 1: both probably a mix of legal and illegal, but Mauritanians primarily.
Speaker 1: I don't know why Mauritanians chose Lachland as their destination city,
Speaker 1: but there they are. So the village of Lachland, a
Speaker 1: town of thirty four hundred peoples, has an influx of
Speaker 1: three thousand new arrivals. We'll call them, and the city
Speaker 1: officials and the mayor is like, we can't deal with this.
Speaker 1: It's uns literally, the word from the mayor is unsustainable.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if there's any connection with crime there,
Speaker 1: but what's your connection with the illegal immigrant population? Your
Speaker 1: relationship with ICE. How you would run the sheriff's office
Speaker 1: this time around, Jim Neil.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's start with ICE, Immigration Customs Enforcement. Yes, as sheriff,
Speaker 2: any immigrant who is physically arrested and transported to the
Speaker 2: Hamilton County jail, that arrest will be reported to ICE
Speaker 2: so that they can conduct their investigation. And one of
Speaker 2: two things is going to happen when that immigrant is
Speaker 2: released from jail, whether making bond or serving thy sentence.
Speaker 2: ICE will be notified of that release. They're going to
Speaker 2: either interview the immigrant for additional information for their case file,
Speaker 2: or they're going to take custody because they have a
Speaker 2: federal court order to deport. And quite frankly, if these
Speaker 2: immigrants are violating our laws, Brian, they're showing signs of
Speaker 2: not being good citizens, why do we need to keep them.
Speaker 2: Let's deport them.
Speaker 1: Well, and certainly ICE will do its job if they're
Speaker 1: alerted to the immigrant population. Now, for her part, I know,
Speaker 1: Charmie mcguffee claims to be working with ICE. That's her claim.
Speaker 1: I guess the Inquiry interviewed her most recently, I guess
Speaker 1: a week or so ago, and her position. She claims
Speaker 1: is that she contacts ICE and has a working relationship
Speaker 1: with them. Do you believe that to not be the case?
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 2: It is not the case. She's the only sheriff in
Speaker 2: Ohio not working with ICE. She will notify them after
Speaker 2: subsequent to release an offender. Hey, I released an immigrant
Speaker 2: instead of notifying them giving them up to forty eight
Speaker 2: hours to respond to the county jail to do their job.
Speaker 2: She's not working with ICE. That's a good question. You
Speaker 2: can ask the prosecutor as well. But she's not working
Speaker 2: with ICE.
Speaker 1: All right. Well, well it's not.
Speaker 2: Part of her party's agenda, Brian, And she's an agenda sheriff.
Speaker 2: She's a political sheriff. She's an activist. During twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: when I was sheriff, I would see her out there
Speaker 2: with these the twenty twenty movements that caused a lot
Speaker 2: of harm to our property and injuries to a person,
Speaker 2: and we affected a number of rests. She's been seen
Speaker 2: in those gatherings.
Speaker 1: She's an activist, no question about it from my perspective.
Speaker 1: Just giving you an opportunity to speak your case on
Speaker 1: the issue. Now moving over to the jail as well
Speaker 1: as staffing in the sheriff's department. Generally speaking, getting people
Speaker 1: to enter the field of law enforcement as a career
Speaker 1: choice hard enough given the circumstances in this country with
Speaker 1: the defund police mentality and the anti police mentality. Well,
Speaker 1: where are we in terms of numbers of the sheriff's
Speaker 1: office and to the extent we don't have sufficient staffing.
Speaker 1: What does Jim Neal do to right the ship and
Speaker 1: get folks to consider that as a career choice.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, we're gonna have to hire higher hire to staff
Speaker 2: the jail. There's no question about it. They've lost When
Speaker 2: I left in twenty one, every floor in the county
Speaker 2: jail was open for business. That's not the case now.
Speaker 2: So we are going to have to hire. And I've
Speaker 2: had I think former deputies approached me, Hey, if you
Speaker 2: get elected, can I come back? You know. So it's
Speaker 2: very positive the feedback that I'm getting. So hopefully with
Speaker 2: the proper leadership, the popper placement in these divisions of
Speaker 2: leaders it'll attract candidates. But it all starts from the top.
Speaker 2: Bryan and Uh, I'm going to go back to Lochland.
Speaker 2: I feel for them. I believe when you have numbers
Speaker 2: like that, I believe there's people behind the scenes, behind
Speaker 2: the scene work in this, the NGOs, the non government
Speaker 2: organizations bringing these people to these communities. Lochland, from what
Speaker 2: my understanding, is not a sanctuary village. Uh. They missed
Speaker 2: Cincinnati by a couple of miles there, Brian. And who's
Speaker 2: going to pay for the services? Brian? When you've doubled
Speaker 2: the population, you're going to need more public servant, including
Speaker 2: law enforcement paramedics. Who's going to pay for that? Lockporn
Speaker 2: can't afford to pay to double their uh, their numbers
Speaker 2: of public servants, So who's going to pay for Are
Speaker 2: the NGOs going to pay for.
Speaker 1: Nice one? Nice one?
Speaker 2: Well, maybe we need to go after them because apparently
Speaker 2: they're getting financial support for bringing them here. How about
Speaker 2: given that finances to Lachlin so they can grow their
Speaker 2: agencies to provide a service that is comparable to the population.
Speaker 2: Now and.
Speaker 1: Well, I just you know, the law enforcement one of
Speaker 1: multitude of layers of problems when you double the population
Speaker 1: of one town. The village administrator, the village administrator over
Speaker 1: there has just said it was about one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollarsand losses to the village because well, the
Speaker 1: illegal immigrants moved in, and since they don't pay taxes
Speaker 1: and are not eligible for employee the employment the residents
Speaker 1: are moving out, resulting in fewer tax dollars. I suppose
Speaker 1: any very complicated problem, but fundamentally, when it comes to
Speaker 1: law enforcement, a sheriff Neil will absolutely work with Ice
Speaker 1: and endeavor to remove them.
Speaker 2: And I'll work with Lachlan too. I work with all
Speaker 2: the agencies. You know that, Brian. Oh, Yes, We're going
Speaker 2: to share resources, including human resources. But I'm going to
Speaker 2: get the ship right. I'm going to get right staff,
Speaker 2: right size the people that we need so we can
Speaker 2: work hand in hand with the other agencies because this
Speaker 2: is a huge problem. Cincinnati is a sanctuary city. They
Speaker 2: brought poison to our region, and those of us who
Speaker 2: care are going to have the band together and deal
Speaker 2: with it well.
Speaker 1: Immigration is certainly one of the defining issues of this election.
Speaker 1: Jim Neil, I wish you all the best, my friend.
Speaker 1: I knew you did a great job when you were sheriff.
Speaker 1: We had a good relationship and I enjoy your open
Speaker 1: door policy, and of course you demonstrated the how wonderful
Speaker 1: it is when you have a great working relationship with
Speaker 1: multiple agencies across multiple jurisdictions that is critical to successful
Speaker 1: law enforcement in the region. And I know you're a huge,
Speaker 1: huge collaboration proponent, so I wish you the best. Jim.
Speaker 1: We'll keep my I'll keep my fingers crossed. You got
Speaker 1: my vote, and I know you get to vote to
Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman.
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you. Fortunately, you know it's important to be
Speaker 2: a you know, follow the constitution and support that as well.
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