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<v Speaker 1>It's Nightside with Dan rays Costin's video.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, thank you very much. We're gonna what I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to do here on Nightside is we had a topic

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<v Speaker 2>which we could get to in the later at the

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<v Speaker 2>ten o'clock hour, but people seem to want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Memorial Day. We had some really interesting calls last hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Steven Cambridge made some great points Larry and Dennisport, Jim

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<v Speaker 2>in Southampton, Greg and Lynnfield, John in Dorchester, Linda in Weymouth.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we're going to continue this and if you'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to reflect on what you did today or we're talking.

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<v Speaker 2>We're trying to make sure people understand the meaning of

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<v Speaker 2>Memorial Day. And Steve made the point early on during

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<v Speaker 2>the hour conversation that Memorial Day has been somewhat watered down.

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<v Speaker 2>I come by the fact that it is now just

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<v Speaker 2>in the minds of many people just the start of summer,

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<v Speaker 2>a weekend for barbecue, and they missed the meaning of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And Steve felt that that was because it was moved

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<v Speaker 2>from the fixed dative, which was May thirtieth for about

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred years, to the Monday, the last Monday.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I guess that's what it is. It's no,

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<v Speaker 3>it's let me see. Yeah, it's the last Monday because

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<v Speaker 3>the yeah, the last Monday in May, and people are

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<v Speaker 3>having a great time, but they have no idea what

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<v Speaker 3>it's about. So we're talking to people who do know

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<v Speaker 3>what it's about. I'm going to start with George in Boston. George,

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate your holding on throughout the news. You're next on nightside.

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<v Speaker 4>Gor ahead, all right, thank you. My uncle Marby was

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<v Speaker 4>in the Korean War, hand to hand combat. He was chilled,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think that this story of what he did

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<v Speaker 4>varied over the years. I wasn't even born yet. I

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<v Speaker 4>was in More until sixty four. Something about helping his buddies,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. But he did do something of significant valor

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<v Speaker 4>because he has a square in Jamaica plane dedicated to him.

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<v Speaker 4>It's at the corner of Heath and Shula Street. Really,

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<v Speaker 4>it's named Robert m Engelhat Square, and they dedicated it once,

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<v Speaker 4>but they rededicated it in the eighties and I was

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<v Speaker 4>at that one. I had like a big benefit breakfast

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<v Speaker 4>in his honor. And you'll never guess who the MC was,

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<v Speaker 4>a very famous boisterous politician, Boston politician.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna guess da' neil.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, how did you guess?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I took a lucky guess.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no way you guess that I've been at the church,

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<v Speaker 4>has that?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>It was him.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh what a.

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<v Speaker 4>Character he was.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I covered the city council as a TV reporter

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<v Speaker 2>for many years, and that when you said boisterous, I

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<v Speaker 2>could think of the name that struck me was da Neil.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I couldn't even know what was he? What kind

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<v Speaker 4>of politician was the.

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<v Speaker 2>Earlier on here's the city councilor here's a city council.

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<v Speaker 2>Ran for higher office a couple of times and was unsuccessful.

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<v Speaker 2>I think at one point tried to run for mayor

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<v Speaker 2>another type. Another time he wanted to run for the

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<v Speaker 2>sheriff of Suffolk County. But yeah, dapper O'Neil was. He

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<v Speaker 2>fashioned himself as sort of a a protege of James

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. He was very proud of the fact that he

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<v Speaker 2>was a graduate of the Staley College of the Spoken Word.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the Staley College of the Spoken Word

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<v Speaker 2>exists anymore. But yeah, So he made an impression on you,

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<v Speaker 2>that's for sure. So your your your uncle. Was it

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<v Speaker 2>your mom's brother or your dad's brother.

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<v Speaker 4>My dad's brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he was involved, which is true when the

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese communist troops came home over the border in North Korea.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in hand to hand combat that had to

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<v Speaker 2>be inch on and places like that, brutally cold winter time.

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<v Speaker 4>That was I do know he was killed in November. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it says that I remember that. But yeah, you're talking

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<v Speaker 4>about Memorial Day's getting watered down. Yeah, yeah, but a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of us do know what it's about.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I know that. Nobody I talked. I talked, I

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<v Speaker 2>talked about. There was a survey in which people of you.

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<v Speaker 2>You were born in sixty four, so you are one

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<v Speaker 2>of the last of the baby boomers. Okay, I'm also

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<v Speaker 2>a baby boomer born somewhat before you. I wish I

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<v Speaker 2>had been born in sixty four. But baby boomers have

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<v Speaker 2>a better appreciation of what the real purpose of Memorial

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<v Speaker 2>Day is and has always been of subsequent generations. The

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<v Speaker 2>newer the generation, the less they understand what the purpose

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<v Speaker 2>of Memorial Day is. And Memorial Day is indeed to

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<v Speaker 2>honor people like your uncle, who not only enlisted in

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<v Speaker 2>the military, served in the military, but gave his all

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<v Speaker 2>in the military.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I remember, And how about World War two? The

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<v Speaker 4>whole country got together. Remember if people had to donate

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<v Speaker 4>all their metal and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, neither you or I were alive during World War Two.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the stuff was rationed and there was a

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<v Speaker 2>matter of fact, that's why they were pennies made of

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<v Speaker 2>It was like an alloy. You sometimes you'll see pennies

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<v Speaker 2>from the nineteen forties and I guess the copper that

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<v Speaker 2>would have been used for the fermenting of pennies, it

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<v Speaker 2>was diverted to military use. I mean they were there

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<v Speaker 2>were shortages of food was rationed. Oh yeah, the whole

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<v Speaker 2>country was in a war footing in World War two.

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<v Speaker 2>Been nothing like that ever since in this country.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's my point. The whole country got together, shipping

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<v Speaker 4>in helping out and there were no protests and to

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<v Speaker 4>any of these protests back then, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they were, they were. Yeah, there were protests prior

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<v Speaker 2>to the world to World War Two, there was a

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<v Speaker 2>fairly strong isolationist faction in the country, led by at

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<v Speaker 2>least nominally led by Charles Lindberg, the American aviator who

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<v Speaker 2>was the first man to fly solo across the Atlantic Ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>But once Pearl Harbor was attacked, the country was on

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<v Speaker 2>war footing from then. And by the way, World War

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<v Speaker 2>Two was completed in three and a half years. If

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<v Speaker 2>you go from December of forty one to August of

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<v Speaker 2>forty five, its it's really three and a half years.

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<v Speaker 2>On the calendar, it's about forty four months or forty

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<v Speaker 2>three months.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course we had the Vietnam War, which went

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<v Speaker 2>for over ten years. We had the War on Terror

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<v Speaker 2>which went for over twenty years when you think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>the War in Terror really began following nine to eleven

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<v Speaker 2>and didn't conclude until that horrendous withdrawal from Kabul Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, my point is, though the country got together

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<v Speaker 4>back then, I don't remember the protest till Vietnam when

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<v Speaker 4>the soldiers were coming back, and I was young for

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<v Speaker 4>that and I didn't know what was going on, yep,

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<v Speaker 4>And now it seems it's just protests everywhere I go.

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<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, we had become a very we had become

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<v Speaker 2>a very fractionalized nation, you know. Ironically, something I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about later on during the week. Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>a Republican, has been talking about streamlining the military, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and not sending the US military off to fight wars

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<v Speaker 2>halfway around the world that we don't understand what the

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<v Speaker 2>purpose of those wars are. It's funny what Trump is

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<v Speaker 2>saying about the use of military force echoes what many

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<v Speaker 2>folks on the other side, the sort of the George

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<v Speaker 2>McGovern wing of the Democratic Party, the folks who were

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<v Speaker 2>called the quote unquote peacenicks or whatever against war and

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<v Speaker 2>uh and all of that. And and Trump has picked

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<v Speaker 2>up some support politically from that wing of the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe in his he's almost a neo isolationist. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's America first and all of that. But uh online,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he wants to pull back from NATO and

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<v Speaker 2>all all of that sort. There's there's this kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a transition going on in the in the American political system,

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<v Speaker 2>which is being headed by in the in the Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump wing of the Republican Party. It's something to keep

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<v Speaker 2>an eye on. George. Thank you for the story of

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<v Speaker 2>your uncle. That's an amazing Was his body recovered, Was

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<v Speaker 2>he was?

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<v Speaker 7>He was?

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<v Speaker 2>His body brought home?

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<v Speaker 4>I hope I don't even remember everybody. All my up

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<v Speaker 4>was a pass now, and like I said, the story

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<v Speaker 4>change going down. But I do know you have to

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<v Speaker 4>do something, you know, a significance to get us something

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<v Speaker 4>dedicated to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, well absolutely, I mean that's that has

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<v Speaker 2>to have been, has to been very heroic, George. I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate you, Carl, thank you for holding for the news.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you all right, thank you, good night. We'll keep

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<v Speaker 2>going here. I got John in New York. I got

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<v Speaker 2>Rick in Central Pennsylvania. If that's it, we will switch topics.

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<v Speaker 2>If not, we can continue on this. We're reflecting on

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<v Speaker 2>Memorial Day and trying to make people better understand Again,

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<v Speaker 2>listener Andrea who sent me this, uh this poll which

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<v Speaker 2>indicates that older Americans do understand Memorial Day and the

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<v Speaker 2>purpose of the moor Day, and younger Americans not all,

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<v Speaker 2>but the percentage of Americans diminishes the younger you are

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<v Speaker 2>as to understanding what Memorial Day's purpose is, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is to remember the memory of those who not only served,

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<v Speaker 2>but gave they're all and lost their lives in the

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<v Speaker 2>service of the country. Veterans Day is a broader celebration,

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<v Speaker 2>a broader holiday back on night Side. If you like

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<v Speaker 1>After this Night Side with Dan Ray on ws Boston's

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<v Speaker 2>Well, just keep rolling. I'm gonna go to my friend

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<v Speaker 2>John in New York. John got your email today. How

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<v Speaker 2>are you, sir? Hello? John?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh good, Hello?

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<v Speaker 7>Do you hear me?

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<v Speaker 2>I can hear you? Find John? Go right ahead?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, all right, Yeah, I had mentioned to you I

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<v Speaker 5>was going to thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, not exactly sure what, but go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>And the reason, okay, what to thank you is about

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<v Speaker 5>that thanks to you and your program and the fact

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<v Speaker 5>that I enjoy it. I to you know, I loaded

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<v Speaker 5>the Facebook app to watch your after show program.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, yes, yes, thank you, and I.

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<v Speaker 5>Enjoyed the program. But get this, pal, just after your show,

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<v Speaker 5>I saw this woman wanting a friend on there. You

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<v Speaker 5>know how that works with Facebook? Yeah, So I I

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<v Speaker 5>contacted her, and she contacted me, and we've been talking

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<v Speaker 5>every day and now we're going to be falling in

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<v Speaker 5>love soon. Man, this could be the for all because

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<v Speaker 5>it's all because of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I hope I get an invitation to the wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't want to get too far out of you here,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, now you're in New York. Where where

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<v Speaker 2>is this lovely lady from?

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<v Speaker 8>Uh, Manila, Manila in the Philippines. Yeah, man, Now, be careful,

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<v Speaker 8>be careful, John.

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<v Speaker 5>I know, Hey, I know the stories. I know you

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<v Speaker 5>know what I mean. Okay, I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, No, I'm just saying that if she starts

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I'm saying. I was hoping it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 5>But she's gonna, she's gonna she's gonna come fly and

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, John, keep me posted, will you?

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<v Speaker 5>I gain an thing is remember the program you had

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<v Speaker 5>How much older do you think I am over her?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I think what you're referring to was the Bill

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<v Speaker 2>She's twenty four, right, Okay, So, okay, how old are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm seventy Okay, I'm gonna guess. Is she thirty?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I do not, No, I do not.

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<v Speaker 6>Was that?

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<v Speaker 5>But by the way, the fact I'm on the voice

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<v Speaker 5>of Boss and the Big Drifted Killer Watch station in

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<v Speaker 5>the city, right, Yeah. I want to suggest that all

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<v Speaker 5>the lady callers called Dan and Zankims would being such

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it. You gotta keep me posting on this one, John, Okay, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I would be I would just be be. I would

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<v Speaker 2>If you get my drift, John, and I think, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Good, Well, now you solid we're good. We're good. That's all.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what they say.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes people are blinded by love or what they perceive

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm on here a long time. But I was

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<v Speaker 5>going to talk a little bit about Memorial Day stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>But that's okay because you're changing the subject now.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, that's fine. You give me a quick Memorial

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<v Speaker 2>Day story. What did you do today? What did you do?

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<v Speaker 5>I actually I did not do anything related to it

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<v Speaker 5>of the Legion Post number eighty six watching the cord

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<v Speaker 5>a gentleman that was killed in the First World War.

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<v Speaker 5>They named the post after him. Okay, and my dad

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<v Speaker 5>Legion organization. I was one of the first members. In

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<v Speaker 5>the things we did was we watched in the parade

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<v Speaker 5>right behind our fathers. And the other things we did

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<v Speaker 5>is a few weeks before Memworth, they we visited all

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<v Speaker 5>the cemeteries and put flags on all the guy's graves.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 5>And you realize being a kid, you realize how many

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<v Speaker 5>people died for this particular war stuff, you know, Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 5>there's no doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>My brother a million people in World War two, half

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<v Speaker 2>a million Americans and other you know, fifty thousand and

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well my dad was in Iwo Jima, but he

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<v Speaker 5>was on the third wave. Okay, with the landings, the

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<v Speaker 5>first two waves, everybody, they lost so many guys that

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you, I'll tell you. I don't know if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a baseball fan or not, and if you're from New York,

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<v Speaker 2>but Hank Bauer, Yankee outfielder in the nineteen fifties, was

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was a marine one one tough guy. One

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's you know, that is common from that error

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<v Speaker 5>of people. Because my dad was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that, you got it, you got it. Hey, John,

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<v Speaker 2>great to hear your voice. Keep me posting on all

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<v Speaker 2>the romantic activities. And then.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, and yes, thank you again.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks. Well, don't take me yet. Let's see how it

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<v Speaker 2>works out, you know what I'm saying. Okay, thanks you,

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<v Speaker 2>Have a great night. I take very quick break here

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<v Speaker 2>at the bottom of the hour. We will stick with

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<v Speaker 2>this topic. The only lines that are open, and we

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<v Speaker 2>get into this, I'm not going to go three hours

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<v Speaker 2>on it, but I can easily finish out this hour

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<v Speaker 2>six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty. Those lines

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<v Speaker 2>are full. I shouldn't even given that six one seven,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. Back on night Side after this, It's.

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<v Speaker 1>Night Side with Dan ONBZ Boston's news radio. It's night

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<v Speaker 1>Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Suzanne. Let's get back to the phone calls.

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<v Speaker 2>We are reflecting on Memorial Day, and as I say,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more than happy to finish out the hour here

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<v Speaker 2>Uh and UH feel free. We got some lines open

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<v Speaker 2>at six one seven, nine three, one ten thirty. There

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<v Speaker 2>were two lines there. Everything else is full up. Rick

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<v Speaker 2>is in Central Pennsylvania. Ricky were next on, said welcome.

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<v Speaker 6>My Dan, It's Rick. I haven't talked to you in

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<v Speaker 6>quite a while, but I wanted to touch base. Sure,

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<v Speaker 6>a great topic, and I'm glad you extended it beyond

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<v Speaker 6>the ten o'clock hour. Of it. I grew up in Bolsburg, Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 6>which is two or three miles east of State College

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<v Speaker 6>where Penn State's located. Absolutely, and Bolsberg is one of

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<v Speaker 6>the places in the country that claims to be the

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<v Speaker 6>birthplace of Memorial Day, and Memorial Day in this town

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<v Speaker 6>and the area is not watered down. It's a whole

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<v Speaker 6>weekend of different activities.

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<v Speaker 2>How far how far is your community? How far does

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<v Speaker 2>your community trace back their Memorial.

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<v Speaker 6>Day heritage to the eighteen hundred It started with the

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<v Speaker 6>group of three women that decorated, like they used to

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<v Speaker 6>call it decoration Day. Yeah, decorated grave of one of

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<v Speaker 6>the women's sons that was killed in the Civil War.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think I think, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 2>it up earlier, and I guess originally as a federal holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>It was first observed on May thirtieth, eighteen sixty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>following a proclamation by General John A. Logan that we

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<v Speaker 2>should commemorate all American military personnel who had died in service.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess there are various claims of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>origination of it, but yeah, your community's claim might be

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<v Speaker 2>as good as anyone's, to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's a very nice weekend. And it is a

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<v Speaker 6>shame that so many people people think of it as

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<v Speaker 6>the start of summer, a day off day for picnics.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm trying to keep this tradition going in my

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<v Speaker 6>family based on my grandparents of putting flowers in the

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<v Speaker 6>graves of past relatives that have served.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, did you say, Rick, did you cite Bolesburg, Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it says July fourth, eighteen sixty four, ladies decorated

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<v Speaker 2>soldiers graves. According to local historians in Bolsburg, Pennsylvania, Bowlesburg

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<v Speaker 2>promotes itself as the birthplace of Memorial Day. However, no

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<v Speaker 2>published reference to this event has been found earlier than

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<v Speaker 2>the printing of the History of the one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>forty eighth Pennsylvania Volunteers in nineteen oh four. In a

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<v Speaker 2>footnote to a story about her brother, Missus Sophie Keller

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<v Speaker 2>Hall described how she and Emma Hunter decorated the grave

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<v Speaker 2>of his father, Reuben Hunter, and then the grave of

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<v Speaker 2>all soldiers in the cemetery destroy did not account for

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<v Speaker 2>Reuben Hunter's death occurring two months later in September of

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen sixty four. So I can see with us a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, a little bit of a confusion there. But hey,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it was Bowsburg, Pennsylvania. It's interesting. There's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of communities here that claim to have originated this story.

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<v Speaker 2>But we do know that the National Day was a

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<v Speaker 2>proclamation calling for decoration data to be observed annually and

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<v Speaker 2>the nationwide by John A. Logan General who was the

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<v Speaker 2>commander and the chief of the Grand Army of the

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<v Speaker 2>Republic of course, the organization that fought on the Union

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<v Speaker 2>side of the Civil War.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, and also this weekend we put flowers on the

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<v Speaker 6>in the Civil War Gettysburg. And interesting enough, Dona, who

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<v Speaker 6>do you remember Nancy Culp? Is that ring a bell?

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<v Speaker 2>It rings a very distant bell.

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<v Speaker 6>Tell me who that was, well, miss Jane Hathaway from

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<v Speaker 6>the Beverly Hill Billy, oh right right, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, yeah, she was quite the character. Anyway. She is

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<v Speaker 6>buried near that great great grandfather's marker. So we also

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<v Speaker 6>put something on her grave too because she was in

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<v Speaker 2>Now, she she was actually in the television series.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, she was in the Beverly Hill Billy And she

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<v Speaker 6>was an actress for lots of things, but best known

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<v Speaker 2>The Ulp Yeah, okay, yeah, Nancy Jane Calth She was

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<v Speaker 2>series The Hillbillies. Yeah, kind of fun. Yeah, but she's

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<v Speaker 6>Well she was then she's kind of forgotten there, and

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<v Speaker 6>World War. Yeah, I'm not sure what.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was born in nineteen nineteen twenty one, and

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<v Speaker 2>from nineteen forty six to nineteen nineteen forty four and

425
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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, that's all good.

427
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<v Speaker 2>She was a lieutenant's it's amazing when you when you

428
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<v Speaker 2>get into some of these people. I think everybody knew

429
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<v Speaker 2>those characters in the Beverly Hillbillies miss Jane Hathaway. That

430
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<v Speaker 2>was her name. That was her her the role that

431
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<v Speaker 2>she played in that in that one. That's good.

432
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<v Speaker 4>That's my name.

433
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<v Speaker 6>That's imprinted on her tombstone or grave marker too, so

434
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<v Speaker 6>so it's.

435
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<v Speaker 2>Got Nancy Culp and also Nancy Jane Hathaway.

436
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that was her famous role.

437
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<v Speaker 2>I guess Jane Jane Hathaway. Yeah, I guess she was.

438
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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, let me clarify. She was Nancy Jane Culp

439
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<v Speaker 2>in real life, but she was Miss Jane Hathaway on

440
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<v Speaker 2>the CBS TV series The Beverly Hillbillies. Remember, Rick, I

441
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<v Speaker 2>got a screwed here. Thanks so much for colling don't

442
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<v Speaker 2>be a stranger man. That that was good information tonight.

443
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<v Speaker 6>Well you have a good evening, and thanks a lot

444
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<v Speaker 6>for bringing all this attention.

445
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<v Speaker 2>Well, thanks for thanks for being a contributor tonight. That

446
00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:53.240
<v Speaker 2>was excellent. Thanks, Ray, appreciate it. Let me get one

447
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<v Speaker 2>more in here. I think I cut Rick off a

448
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<v Speaker 2>little bit. Sorry, Rick didn't mean to do that, but

449
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<v Speaker 2>I want to get to Sandra from Carver, Massachue. Seddra,

450
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<v Speaker 2>you were next on Nightside.

451
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<v Speaker 9>Welcome, Hi, thank you for taking my call. You're welcome

452
00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:10.319
<v Speaker 9>and you're talking about the Memorial Day. Yes, yes, And

453
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<v Speaker 9>I did go to the Memorial Middleborough Parade today. My

454
00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:20.200
<v Speaker 9>grandson Dylan marched in the parade with the Boy Scouts.

455
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and that's an annual event up sure in Middleborough.

456
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<v Speaker 2>An annual event.

457
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<v Speaker 9>Yes, they have a very very nice parade. This is

458
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<v Speaker 9>his second time marching in one of the Middleborough parades.

459
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<v Speaker 2>How old your grandson? He's thirteen thirteen, so he now

460
00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:40.799
<v Speaker 2>has an understanding of Memorial Day, probably better than most

461
00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:41.680
<v Speaker 2>thirteen year olds.

462
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<v Speaker 1>Right.

463
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<v Speaker 9>Well, he's kind of a serious kid. He's a good

464
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<v Speaker 9>kid and people know him quite a bit in town.

465
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<v Speaker 9>He does a lot of he's mowing lawns and doing

466
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<v Speaker 9>things like that.

467
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<v Speaker 2>That's okay a little he's an entrepreneur, you know, nothing

468
00:26:58.920 --> 00:26:59.440
<v Speaker 2>wrong with that.

469
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:03.519
<v Speaker 9>Through he's a good kid. He's played baseball too, and

470
00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:07.000
<v Speaker 9>now he's a good kid. And there was just one

471
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<v Speaker 9>of the things you had one of your callers that

472
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<v Speaker 9>mentioned lung cancer.

473
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<v Speaker 2>Metho can never put out mesoploma.

474
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<v Speaker 9>Right, And it was coincidental that I was talking to

475
00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:22.640
<v Speaker 9>a man that was at the parade, and I guess

476
00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:27.559
<v Speaker 9>he had been struggling with that had been in the

477
00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:31.160
<v Speaker 9>military and was actually very sick a few months ago

478
00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:32.400
<v Speaker 9>and was in the hospital with it.

479
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. One of our callers was talking about that. His dad,

480
00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:39.519
<v Speaker 2>I think it was Larry from the Cape, said that

481
00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:42.839
<v Speaker 2>his dad had worked in one of the Navy yards

482
00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:46.400
<v Speaker 2>and then went on to serve in the Air Force

483
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:48.759
<v Speaker 2>and his plane was shot down and he's a pow

484
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:52.240
<v Speaker 2>and I guess fifty years later he developed some form

485
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:56.680
<v Speaker 2>of lung cancer because of the exposure to the asbestos. Right,

486
00:27:57.240 --> 00:27:57.680
<v Speaker 2>that's what this.

487
00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:02.119
<v Speaker 9>Man did too, from the military. Yeah, well, be very

488
00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:03.759
<v Speaker 9>common from the military.

489
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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think a lot of that asbestos. They used

490
00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:10.079
<v Speaker 2>asbestos for installation for many years, and they've finally figured

491
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:13.480
<v Speaker 2>out that there was a relationship between asbestos, uh and

492
00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:16.400
<v Speaker 2>lung cancer. And you know, asbestos now is something that

493
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:19.640
<v Speaker 2>is not used in a lot of buildings Before they

494
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:22.279
<v Speaker 2>can be sold. They have to go in there and

495
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:25.960
<v Speaker 2>eradicate the asbestos, just like they had to do member

496
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:29.559
<v Speaker 2>with lead paint. Similar fashion that there were kids who

497
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:33.599
<v Speaker 2>were you chewing on chips of lead paint, and so

498
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:34.759
<v Speaker 2>lead can no.

499
00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:39.039
<v Speaker 3>Longer be used in paint, right, not just which is good?

500
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, sure, you learn learn as you go along.

501
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Here and unfortunately people along the way end up. Uh

502
00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:54.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, all the worse, all the worse for wear. Well, Sandrew,

503
00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:57.200
<v Speaker 2>that's good to know that that your that your nephew

504
00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:01.519
<v Speaker 2>was out there today. And uh, great son, excuse me,

505
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:04.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, grandson. Okay, here I was making you younger

506
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:10.599
<v Speaker 2>and no problem. Well that's great, Sandra, And hopefully more

507
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:14.079
<v Speaker 2>young people like him in the years they had will

508
00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:17.720
<v Speaker 2>develop an appreciation of Memorial Day. I think, right, I

509
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:20.240
<v Speaker 2>think if every kid listened to these two hours who

510
00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:23.319
<v Speaker 2>have had, we've had some really interesting stories, all of

511
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:25.599
<v Speaker 2>which brought us back to what the true meaning of

512
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:26.519
<v Speaker 2>Memorial Day is.

513
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<v Speaker 9>And I also wanted to remember my uncle Bill, who's

514
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:34.480
<v Speaker 9>the United States Air Force World War two shot down,

515
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:39.160
<v Speaker 9>had broken legs and injuries, stayed in the military, and

516
00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:42.000
<v Speaker 9>died in nineteen fifty seven on the service of the

517
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:49.440
<v Speaker 9>United States building barracks after a typhoon. And he's buried

518
00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:54.240
<v Speaker 9>in Ireland to National Cemetery. He was from Canada, really.

519
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:57.680
<v Speaker 2>And so he was injured during World War Two.

520
00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:00.640
<v Speaker 9>Did you say through the United States? Yeah?

521
00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then he then he did he stay in

522
00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:05.519
<v Speaker 2>the military or did he work.

523
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:09.759
<v Speaker 9>As a military and died in nineteen fifty seven building

524
00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:13.079
<v Speaker 9>barracks after a typhoon on Okinawa.

525
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:16.720
<v Speaker 2>Was he there as a member of the military. Was

526
00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:17.880
<v Speaker 2>he there as a contractor?

527
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:21.000
<v Speaker 9>He was there with the military United States Air Force?

528
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<v Speaker 2>Wow, boy, I'll tell you Okinawa that was a pretty

529
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:31.200
<v Speaker 2>important outpost. Still is still is? Yeah, Zedra, appreciate, appreciate

530
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:33.359
<v Speaker 2>your call. Thank you so much and thanks for listening

531
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<v Speaker 2>to night side.

532
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:38.079
<v Speaker 9>Okay, thank you also for taking my call. Very good show.

533
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:39.240
<v Speaker 3>Thank you bye.

534
00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:41.240
<v Speaker 2>All right, all right, we've got to take a quick

535
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:43.400
<v Speaker 2>break and from Drake and who waits on the other side.

536
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:45.359
<v Speaker 2>I got room for a couple more calls to finish

537
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:47.319
<v Speaker 2>out the hour. So if you'd like to comment on

538
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:49.960
<v Speaker 2>what Memorial Day meant to you today and what it

539
00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:54.119
<v Speaker 2>means to your family, don't be shy. Six one seven, two,

540
00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:56.880
<v Speaker 2>five four ten thirty or six one seven, nine three

541
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<v Speaker 2>one ten thirty. We will change topics. And seven o'clock, Uh,

542
00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:03.640
<v Speaker 2>the hour that I was going to do on Donald

543
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.039
<v Speaker 2>Trump for his ongoing fight with Harvard, we will push

544
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:08.319
<v Speaker 2>that over till tomorrow.

545
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:09.480
<v Speaker 6>Uh.

546
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:13.119
<v Speaker 2>But the hour we will do after eleven o'clock is

547
00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:19.480
<v Speaker 2>the the the the graduation speech, the commencement address, that

548
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:22.279
<v Speaker 2>was delivered by Kermit the Frog. This almost sounds that

549
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 2>you don't think it's I'm putting you on, but Kermit

550
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:28.880
<v Speaker 2>the Frog delivered a commencement address to graduates at the

551
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:33.680
<v Speaker 2>University of Maryland. We'll save that after eleven. Final comment

552
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:36.599
<v Speaker 2>or two would be welcome on Memorial Day and the

553
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:39.880
<v Speaker 2>meaning of this day to all of us as Americans.

554
00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty six one seven, nine, three,

555
00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:45.759
<v Speaker 2>one ten thirty Back on Nightside, give Noah a call

556
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:46.759
<v Speaker 2>back right after.

557
00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>This Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.

558
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>It's night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio.

559
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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get back to the call. It's going

560
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:04.000
<v Speaker 2>to go to Ann from Drake It Hey an welcome

561
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:05.279
<v Speaker 2>you are next on night Side.

562
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:08.759
<v Speaker 7>Thanks for calling day, Yeah, thank you for taking my call.

563
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:11.960
<v Speaker 7>I talked to you about this a few years back.

564
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:16.400
<v Speaker 7>But sometimes you think that these big incidents happened overseas

565
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:20.160
<v Speaker 7>during World War Two and it doesn't affect people families here.

566
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:27.720
<v Speaker 7>But my husband had five had five uncles out World

567
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:30.279
<v Speaker 7>War Two at the same time, and the youngest one

568
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:33.119
<v Speaker 7>begged for permission to go, you know, with the other

569
00:32:33.240 --> 00:32:36.039
<v Speaker 7>brothers and they gave it to him and he went overseas.

570
00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:39.799
<v Speaker 7>He's the only one who didn't come back. He was

571
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:44.160
<v Speaker 7>on a Belgian coop ship that was used to take

572
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:49.640
<v Speaker 7>soldiers to the to the Normandy coast. He was in

573
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:52.400
<v Speaker 7>the ship. It was used to be an Ocean minor,

574
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:55.400
<v Speaker 7>a Belgian coop ship, and was torpedoed and sunk by

575
00:32:55.480 --> 00:33:02.079
<v Speaker 7>German submarine Christmas Eve nineteen forty four. And my my

576
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:06.720
<v Speaker 7>husband's grandmother, who you know, the the mother of the

577
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:12.039
<v Speaker 7>of the uncles, she got letters from Western Union telegrams

578
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.640
<v Speaker 7>that he was missing in action and that's still his

579
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:19.440
<v Speaker 7>body hasn't been found. Another Western Union telegram that said

580
00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:24.039
<v Speaker 7>that you know that that the body could not be recovered.

581
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:29.039
<v Speaker 7>So he's he's buried back home here. Well actually not

582
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:31.319
<v Speaker 7>very because there's nobody, but there's a marker with the

583
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:35.480
<v Speaker 7>other brothers who came home from the one was married,

584
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:38.640
<v Speaker 7>but there were four, there were three grades, one marker

585
00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:41.440
<v Speaker 7>and and one of the other brothers married. And he's

586
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:44.960
<v Speaker 7>not living in the area. He wasn't. So it's like

587
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:49.359
<v Speaker 7>the Arizona. Now there's a it's a protected ward race

588
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:51.240
<v Speaker 7>and it is a picture of that gone Alost like

589
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.920
<v Speaker 7>the Titanic down in the Arizona, down at the bottom

590
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:54.480
<v Speaker 7>of the ocean.

591
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<v Speaker 2>So it was it off the coast of where was it?

592
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:01.079
<v Speaker 2>Do you recall it was torpedoed.

593
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it was going from the English Channel and it

594
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:07.559
<v Speaker 7>was going from from the English Channel and it was

595
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:11.840
<v Speaker 7>going to Shirp from Southampton to Serbourgs in France. And

596
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:18.559
<v Speaker 7>for the Normandy invasion when it was struck by the torpedo,

597
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:21.920
<v Speaker 7>it said seven hundred and sixty three soldiers were killed

598
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:25.159
<v Speaker 7>in fifteen crew members and many of the soldiers were

599
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:27.559
<v Speaker 7>rescued by British destroyers who were in the area and

600
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:31.639
<v Speaker 7>their way over there too. So and over in Normandy

601
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:35.840
<v Speaker 7>there's a it's called the Leopoldville the ship, and it's

602
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:43.239
<v Speaker 7>a Leopoldville incident and it's the you know, it says

603
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:46.159
<v Speaker 7>that there have been all kinds of books, documentaries, memorials,

604
00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:52.280
<v Speaker 7>and the last soldiers are remembered on the Normandy American

605
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.559
<v Speaker 7>Cemetery's walls of the Missing. They have walls of the

606
00:34:55.639 --> 00:34:58.400
<v Speaker 7>missing almost probably like the via v a memorial.

607
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<v Speaker 2>You know, just realize, how you know, the events of

608
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:07.239
<v Speaker 2>the world changed so many lives during.

609
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:11.480
<v Speaker 7>That time and you know Dan Christmas Eve to get

610
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:15.760
<v Speaker 7>to get Western Union telegram as well. They don't do

611
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:20.519
<v Speaker 7>that anymore now, a chaplain. Uh, we'll go with another

612
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:23.719
<v Speaker 7>service member to the family to give the news.

613
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:24.079
<v Speaker 6>You know.

614
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Of course, remember during World War two? Was it I

615
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:29.360
<v Speaker 2>think it was, If I'm not mistaken, I think it

616
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.840
<v Speaker 2>was half a million US soldiers died in the various

617
00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:37.360
<v Speaker 2>theaters around the world. Europe, China, Bournom in India, Africa

618
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:40.760
<v Speaker 2>are different places where the war was font So I

619
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:43.920
<v Speaker 2>think that's the figure. Someone will probably correct me because

620
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:46.440
<v Speaker 2>my audience is pretty good on this sort of thing.

621
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<v Speaker 7>So if I'm wrong on that, those who never came home,

622
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:49.920
<v Speaker 7>you know.

623
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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm just trying to have one more.

624
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<v Speaker 7>Thing if i can ahead. You know, the lady who

625
00:35:56.880 --> 00:36:02.119
<v Speaker 7>just called about it was a her was her husband

626
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:05.239
<v Speaker 7>who was working in the shipyard and he was exposed

627
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:06.199
<v Speaker 7>to his best tost No.

628
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:08.320
<v Speaker 2>It was a it was a call at last hour.

629
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<v Speaker 2>It was his dad who had worked and it was

630
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:13.480
<v Speaker 2>exposed to asbestos. And then he told destroy that the

631
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:16.199
<v Speaker 2>dad went in and joined the Air force and actually

632
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:21.400
<v Speaker 2>was a gunner on an airplane that was shot down

633
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:27.800
<v Speaker 2>and the and his dad survived the shootdown and also

634
00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:34.199
<v Speaker 2>survived the German Fisher of War camp as well. Yeah.

635
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<v Speaker 7>Oh, I was going to ask you if you could

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<v Speaker 7>please look into this. And I know all about it anyways,

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<v Speaker 7>but for your uh, you know, for your listening audience.

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<v Speaker 7>It's called the Pack Act. Pact Act was signed a

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<v Speaker 7>coup in twenty twenty two by President Biden. It gave

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<v Speaker 7>benefits to families of servicemen who who died from Ajorn Orange,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, from inhaling the fumes of of Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 7>there also now that you act the benefits were include

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<v Speaker 7>now and survivors of nine to eleven are people who

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<v Speaker 7>work there with you know, first responders, they were exposed,

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<v Speaker 7>and also people who I can I know all about it.

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<v Speaker 7>I've still lot some of these performs. My husband passed

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<v Speaker 7>away two years ago, and he was he was exposed.

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<v Speaker 7>He was in South Korea. He's a d m V

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<v Speaker 7>during the Vietnamese War, and he was the drinking water

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<v Speaker 7>and the herbicides on all the glasses.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what I what I would see, what I

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<v Speaker 2>would suggest on this, and is that are you looking

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<v Speaker 2>to investigate the potential death benefit for your husband?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh?

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<v Speaker 7>No, I already I have that It took me a

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<v Speaker 7>year and a half of forms and working with an agent.

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<v Speaker 7>But for other people who aren't aware that it doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>have to be you know, like that that person's loved

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<v Speaker 7>one would be entitled to something.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, again, I don't have much to to I think

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<v Speaker 2>you know much more about that than I do. By

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<v Speaker 2>the way, I did look up the total number of

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<v Speaker 2>US military debts in World War two is approximately four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred five thousand, three hundred and ninety nine, which includes

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<v Speaker 2>both combat and non combat debts. And they believe that

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and ninety one thousand, five hundred and fifty seven,

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<v Speaker 2>so just sort of just short of three hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>were battlefield debts, and then there's another one hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>plus that were non battlefield deaths. So we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>when you the point of making is when you talked

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<v Speaker 2>about people being notified by telegrams. That was back in

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<v Speaker 2>the day in World War two, a fairly quick course

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<v Speaker 2>of communications. That that's what what they called then the

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<v Speaker 2>Department of War day, Yeah, a little different.

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<v Speaker 7>I'd advise anybody to go to that Leopolville website. There

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<v Speaker 7>are tons of photos, you know, uh, real photos. It

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<v Speaker 7>used to be a crul ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, no, I hear you. You said the Belgium ship,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, and I got to run here because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>up against my great Thanks so much for you. I

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<v Speaker 2>have a great knock tonight when we come back, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about something caught my eye over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was that there was a very special commencement

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<v Speaker 2>speaker at the University of Maryland, Kermit the Frog. I

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<v Speaker 2>have mixed feelings about this. I'd love to get your

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts right after the eleven o'clock news here on Nightside