Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan rays Costin's video.
Speaker 2: Now, thank you very much. We're gonna what I'd like
Speaker 2: to do here on Nightside is we had a topic
Speaker 2: which we could get to in the later at the
Speaker 2: ten o'clock hour, but people seem to want to talk
Speaker 2: about Memorial Day. We had some really interesting calls last hour.
Speaker 2: Steven Cambridge made some great points Larry and Dennisport, Jim
Speaker 2: in Southampton, Greg and Lynnfield, John in Dorchester, Linda in Weymouth.
Speaker 2: And so we're going to continue this and if you'd
Speaker 2: like to reflect on what you did today or we're talking.
Speaker 2: We're trying to make sure people understand the meaning of
Speaker 2: Memorial Day. And Steve made the point early on during
Speaker 2: the hour conversation that Memorial Day has been somewhat watered down.
Speaker 2: I come by the fact that it is now just
Speaker 2: in the minds of many people just the start of summer,
Speaker 2: a weekend for barbecue, and they missed the meaning of it.
Speaker 2: And Steve felt that that was because it was moved
Speaker 2: from the fixed dative, which was May thirtieth for about
Speaker 2: one hundred years, to the Monday, the last Monday.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I guess that's what it is. It's no,
Speaker 3: it's let me see. Yeah, it's the last Monday because
Speaker 3: the yeah, the last Monday in May, and people are
Speaker 3: having a great time, but they have no idea what
Speaker 3: it's about. So we're talking to people who do know
Speaker 3: what it's about. I'm going to start with George in Boston. George,
Speaker 3: appreciate your holding on throughout the news. You're next on nightside.
Speaker 4: Gor ahead, all right, thank you. My uncle Marby was
Speaker 4: in the Korean War, hand to hand combat. He was chilled,
Speaker 4: and I think that this story of what he did
Speaker 4: varied over the years. I wasn't even born yet. I
Speaker 4: was in More until sixty four. Something about helping his buddies,
Speaker 4: you know. But he did do something of significant valor
Speaker 4: because he has a square in Jamaica plane dedicated to him.
Speaker 4: It's at the corner of Heath and Shula Street. Really,
Speaker 4: it's named Robert m Engelhat Square, and they dedicated it once,
Speaker 4: but they rededicated it in the eighties and I was
Speaker 4: at that one. I had like a big benefit breakfast
Speaker 4: in his honor. And you'll never guess who the MC was,
Speaker 4: a very famous boisterous politician, Boston politician.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess da' neil.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, how did you guess?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I took a lucky guess.
Speaker 4: There's no way you guess that I've been at the church,
Speaker 4: has that?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 4: It was him.
Speaker 6: Oh what a.
Speaker 4: Character he was.
Speaker 2: Well, I covered the city council as a TV reporter
Speaker 2: for many years, and that when you said boisterous, I
Speaker 2: could think of the name that struck me was da Neil.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I couldn't even know what was he? What kind
Speaker 4: of politician was the.
Speaker 2: Earlier on here's the city councilor here's a city council.
Speaker 2: Ran for higher office a couple of times and was unsuccessful.
Speaker 2: I think at one point tried to run for mayor
Speaker 2: another type. Another time he wanted to run for the
Speaker 2: sheriff of Suffolk County. But yeah, dapper O'Neil was. He
Speaker 2: fashioned himself as sort of a a protege of James
Speaker 2: Michael Curly.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He was very proud of the fact that he
Speaker 2: was a graduate of the Staley College of the Spoken Word.
Speaker 2: I don't think the Staley College of the Spoken Word
Speaker 2: exists anymore. But yeah, So he made an impression on you,
Speaker 2: that's for sure. So your your your uncle. Was it
Speaker 2: your mom's brother or your dad's brother.
Speaker 4: My dad's brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was involved, which is true when the
Speaker 2: Chinese communist troops came home over the border in North Korea.
Speaker 2: He was in hand to hand combat that had to
Speaker 2: be inch on and places like that, brutally cold winter time.
Speaker 4: That was I do know he was killed in November. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it says that I remember that. But yeah, you're talking
Speaker 4: about Memorial Day's getting watered down. Yeah, yeah, but a
Speaker 4: lot of us do know what it's about.
Speaker 2: No, I know that. Nobody I talked. I talked, I
Speaker 2: talked about. There was a survey in which people of you.
Speaker 2: You were born in sixty four, so you are one
Speaker 2: of the last of the baby boomers. Okay, I'm also
Speaker 2: a baby boomer born somewhat before you. I wish I
Speaker 2: had been born in sixty four. But baby boomers have
Speaker 2: a better appreciation of what the real purpose of Memorial
Speaker 2: Day is and has always been of subsequent generations. The
Speaker 2: newer the generation, the less they understand what the purpose
Speaker 2: of Memorial Day is. And Memorial Day is indeed to
Speaker 2: honor people like your uncle, who not only enlisted in
Speaker 2: the military, served in the military, but gave his all
Speaker 2: in the military.
Speaker 4: Oh I remember, And how about World War two? The
Speaker 4: whole country got together. Remember if people had to donate
Speaker 4: all their metal and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, neither you or I were alive during World War Two.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the stuff was rationed and there was a
Speaker 2: matter of fact, that's why they were pennies made of
Speaker 2: It was like an alloy. You sometimes you'll see pennies
Speaker 2: from the nineteen forties and I guess the copper that
Speaker 2: would have been used for the fermenting of pennies, it
Speaker 2: was diverted to military use. I mean they were there
Speaker 2: were shortages of food was rationed. Oh yeah, the whole
Speaker 2: country was in a war footing in World War two.
Speaker 2: Been nothing like that ever since in this country.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my point. The whole country got together, shipping
Speaker 4: in helping out and there were no protests and to
Speaker 4: any of these protests back then, yeah.
Speaker 2: Well they were, they were. Yeah, there were protests prior
Speaker 2: to the world to World War Two, there was a
Speaker 2: fairly strong isolationist faction in the country, led by at
Speaker 2: least nominally led by Charles Lindberg, the American aviator who
Speaker 2: was the first man to fly solo across the Atlantic Ocean.
Speaker 2: But once Pearl Harbor was attacked, the country was on
Speaker 2: war footing from then. And by the way, World War
Speaker 2: Two was completed in three and a half years. If
Speaker 2: you go from December of forty one to August of
Speaker 2: forty five, its it's really three and a half years.
Speaker 2: On the calendar, it's about forty four months or forty
Speaker 2: three months.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: And of course we had the Vietnam War, which went
Speaker 2: for over ten years. We had the War on Terror
Speaker 2: which went for over twenty years when you think about it,
Speaker 2: the War in Terror really began following nine to eleven
Speaker 2: and didn't conclude until that horrendous withdrawal from Kabul Afghanistan.
Speaker 4: So yeah, my point is, though the country got together
Speaker 4: back then, I don't remember the protest till Vietnam when
Speaker 4: the soldiers were coming back, and I was young for
Speaker 4: that and I didn't know what was going on, yep,
Speaker 4: And now it seems it's just protests everywhere I go.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, we had become a very we had become
Speaker 2: a very fractionalized nation, you know. Ironically, something I'm going
Speaker 2: to talk about later on during the week. Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: a Republican, has been talking about streamlining the military, uh,
Speaker 2: and not sending the US military off to fight wars
Speaker 2: halfway around the world that we don't understand what the
Speaker 2: purpose of those wars are. It's funny what Trump is
Speaker 2: saying about the use of military force echoes what many
Speaker 2: folks on the other side, the sort of the George
Speaker 2: McGovern wing of the Democratic Party, the folks who were
Speaker 2: called the quote unquote peacenicks or whatever against war and
Speaker 2: uh and all of that. And and Trump has picked
Speaker 2: up some support politically from that wing of the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2: I believe in his he's almost a neo isolationist. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's America first and all of that. But uh online,
Speaker 2: I mean he wants to pull back from NATO and
Speaker 2: all all of that sort. There's there's this kind of
Speaker 2: a transition going on in the in the American political system,
Speaker 2: which is being headed by in the in the Donald
Speaker 2: Trump wing of the Republican Party. It's something to keep
Speaker 2: an eye on. George. Thank you for the story of
Speaker 2: your uncle. That's an amazing Was his body recovered, Was
Speaker 2: he was?
Speaker 7: He was?
Speaker 2: His body brought home?
Speaker 4: I hope I don't even remember everybody. All my up
Speaker 4: was a pass now, and like I said, the story
Speaker 4: change going down. But I do know you have to
Speaker 4: do something, you know, a significance to get us something
Speaker 4: dedicated to you.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, well absolutely, I mean that's that has
Speaker 2: to have been, has to been very heroic, George. I
Speaker 2: appreciate you, Carl, thank you for holding for the news.
Speaker 2: Thank you all right, thank you, good night. We'll keep
Speaker 2: going here. I got John in New York. I got
Speaker 2: Rick in Central Pennsylvania. If that's it, we will switch topics.
Speaker 2: If not, we can continue on this. We're reflecting on
Speaker 2: Memorial Day and trying to make people better understand Again,
Speaker 2: there was this interesting and I want to thank my
Speaker 2: listener Andrea who sent me this, uh this poll which
Speaker 2: indicates that older Americans do understand Memorial Day and the
Speaker 2: purpose of the moor Day, and younger Americans not all,
Speaker 2: but the percentage of Americans diminishes the younger you are
Speaker 2: as to understanding what Memorial Day's purpose is, and that
Speaker 2: is to remember the memory of those who not only served,
Speaker 2: but gave they're all and lost their lives in the
Speaker 2: service of the country. Veterans Day is a broader celebration,
Speaker 2: a broader holiday back on night Side. If you like
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Speaker 1: After this Night Side with Dan Ray on ws Boston's
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Speaker 2: Well, just keep rolling. I'm gonna go to my friend
Speaker 2: John in New York. John got your email today. How
Speaker 2: are you, sir? Hello? John?
Speaker 5: Oh good, Hello?
Speaker 7: Do you hear me?
Speaker 2: I can hear you? Find John? Go right ahead?
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, Yeah, I had mentioned to you I
Speaker 5: was going to thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, not exactly sure what, but go ahead.
Speaker 5: And the reason, okay, what to thank you is about
Speaker 5: that thanks to you and your program and the fact
Speaker 5: that I enjoy it. I to you know, I loaded
Speaker 5: the Facebook app to watch your after show program.
Speaker 2: All right, yes, yes, thank you, and I.
Speaker 5: Enjoyed the program. But get this, pal, just after your show,
Speaker 5: I saw this woman wanting a friend on there. You
Speaker 5: know how that works with Facebook? Yeah, So I I
Speaker 5: contacted her, and she contacted me, and we've been talking
Speaker 5: every day and now we're going to be falling in
Speaker 5: love soon. Man, this could be the for all because
Speaker 5: it's all because of you.
Speaker 2: Well, I hope I get an invitation to the wedding.
Speaker 2: Don't want to get too far out of you here,
Speaker 2: but you know, now you're in New York. Where where
Speaker 2: is this lovely lady from?
Speaker 8: Uh, Manila, Manila in the Philippines. Yeah, man, Now, be careful,
Speaker 8: be careful, John.
Speaker 5: I know, Hey, I know the stories. I know you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. Okay, I don't want to say
Speaker 5: I meant I've met I traveled a lot for thirty years.
Speaker 5: I've met a lot of individuals that told me the
Speaker 5: nightmare and what happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, No, I'm just saying that if she starts
Speaker 2: looking for it for you to send your cash or
Speaker 2: or to give you somewhere her passwords, be very careful, Joe.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. I was hoping it's gonna be
Speaker 2: somebody from from New York.
Speaker 5: But she's gonna, she's gonna she's gonna come fly and
Speaker 5: see me soon. She's gonna come see me.
Speaker 2: Okay, John, keep me posted, will you?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 5: I gain an thing is remember the program you had
Speaker 5: a few weeks ago, having people call, hey, how much
Speaker 5: old are you than your wife and all that good stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 5: guess what how much old are you?
Speaker 9: Do?
Speaker 5: How much older do you think I am over her?
Speaker 2: Well? I think what you're referring to was the Bill
Speaker 2: Belichick Jordan Hudson program where we talked about Bill Belichick,
Speaker 2: who's seventy four dating a woman who's somewhat younger than he.
Speaker 2: She's twenty four, right, Okay, So, okay, how old are you?
Speaker 2: I'm seventy Okay, I'm gonna guess. Is she thirty?
Speaker 5: Right on the log and you did, Wow, you got
Speaker 5: a crystal ball in that studio there.
Speaker 2: No, I do not, No, I do not.
Speaker 5: But why did you guess that?
Speaker 2: I totally guessed that I was putting you in the
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick?
Speaker 6: Was that?
Speaker 5: But by the way, the fact I'm on the voice
Speaker 5: of Boss and the Big Drifted Killer Watch station in
Speaker 5: the city, right, Yeah. I want to suggest that all
Speaker 5: the lady callers called Dan and Zankims would being such
Speaker 5: the polite gentleman he is, the way he handles all
Speaker 5: your calls.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. You gotta keep me posting on this one, John, Okay, Uh,
Speaker 2: I would be I would just be be. I would
Speaker 2: simply advise that these international friendships can can in order
Speaker 2: the detriment of what people might perceive as wealthy, afluent Americans.
Speaker 2: If you get my drift, John, and I think, oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, that's all right. I mean I might be
Speaker 5: a sugar daddy.
Speaker 2: You got to keep your eyes open if she starts,
Speaker 2: if she starts to do it, if she's if she
Speaker 2: tries to do a done in Bradstreet on you, you
Speaker 2: gotta be very yeah. Well, okay, she starts asking you
Speaker 2: questions like so, how many bank accounts do you actually have?
Speaker 2: And one of the past words, that would be a
Speaker 2: clear indication that maybe she's looking she's looking for love
Speaker 2: in the wrong places. If you get my drift, okay,
Speaker 2: just be careful.
Speaker 5: I could never be that much and loves to do
Speaker 5: that good.
Speaker 2: Good, Well, now you solid we're good. We're good. That's all.
Speaker 2: You know what they say.
Speaker 5: Sometimes very much.
Speaker 2: Sometimes people are blinded by love or what they perceive
Speaker 2: is love. Right, yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 5: And I'm on here a long time. But I was
Speaker 5: going to talk a little bit about Memorial Day stuff.
Speaker 5: But that's okay because you're changing the subject now.
Speaker 2: No, no, that's fine. You give me a quick Memorial
Speaker 2: Day story. What did you do today? What did you do?
Speaker 5: I actually I did not do anything related to it
Speaker 5: except to think about it and what it was. When
Speaker 5: I was a youngster, I was a member of the
Speaker 5: Sons of the League and my father was the commander
Speaker 5: of the Legion Post number eighty six watching the cord
Speaker 5: a gentleman that was killed in the First World War.
Speaker 5: They named the post after him. Okay, and my dad
Speaker 5: led the parade and it was the Sons of the
Speaker 5: Legion organization. I was one of the first members. In
Speaker 5: the nineteenth late fifties they started that organization and I
Speaker 5: became a member, got a membership card. And one of
Speaker 5: the things we did was we watched in the parade
Speaker 5: right behind our fathers. And the other things we did
Speaker 5: is a few weeks before Memworth, they we visited all
Speaker 5: the cemeteries and put flags on all the guy's graves.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.
Speaker 5: And you realize being a kid, you realize how many
Speaker 5: people died for this particular war stuff, you know, Yeah, no,
Speaker 5: there's no doubt.
Speaker 2: My brother a million people in World War two, half
Speaker 2: a million Americans and other you know, fifty thousand and
Speaker 2: soul in Korea fifty eight thousand in Vietnam, and on
Speaker 2: and on it goes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well my dad was in Iwo Jima, but he
Speaker 5: was on the third wave. Okay, with the landings, the
Speaker 5: first two waves, everybody, they lost so many guys that
Speaker 5: were killed on the first two waves of landing on
Speaker 5: the beach.
Speaker 2: Tell you, I'll tell you. I don't know if you're
Speaker 2: a baseball fan or not, and if you're from New York,
Speaker 2: but Hank Bauer, Yankee outfielder in the nineteen fifties, was
Speaker 2: a veteran of Ewo Jima.
Speaker 5: Okay, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a marine one one tough guy. One
Speaker 2: tough guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's you know, that is common from that error
Speaker 5: of people. Because my dad was.
Speaker 2: Like that, you got it, you got it. Hey, John,
Speaker 2: great to hear your voice. Keep me posting on all
Speaker 2: the romantic activities. And then.
Speaker 5: Okay, and yes, thank you again.
Speaker 2: Thanks. Well, don't take me yet. Let's see how it
Speaker 2: works out, you know what I'm saying. Okay, thanks you,
Speaker 2: I talked to you.
Speaker 7: Soon.
Speaker 2: Have a great night. I take very quick break here
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the hour. We will stick with
Speaker 2: this topic. The only lines that are open, and we
Speaker 2: will change topics at eleven. So if you want to
Speaker 2: get into this, I'm not going to go three hours
Speaker 2: on it, but I can easily finish out this hour
Speaker 2: six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty. Those lines
Speaker 2: are full. I shouldn't even given that six one seven,
Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. If you want to get
Speaker 2: in two lines at six one seven, nine three one
Speaker 2: ten thirty. Back on night Side after this, It's.
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan ONBZ Boston's news radio. It's night
Speaker 1: Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Suzanne. Let's get back to the phone calls.
Speaker 2: We are reflecting on Memorial Day, and as I say,
Speaker 2: I'm more than happy to finish out the hour here
Speaker 2: on this subject because I think it's a subject that's important.
Speaker 2: Uh and UH feel free. We got some lines open
Speaker 2: at six one seven, nine three, one ten thirty. There
Speaker 2: were two lines there. Everything else is full up. Rick
Speaker 2: is in Central Pennsylvania. Ricky were next on, said welcome.
Speaker 6: My Dan, It's Rick. I haven't talked to you in
Speaker 6: quite a while, but I wanted to touch base. Sure,
Speaker 6: a great topic, and I'm glad you extended it beyond
Speaker 6: the ten o'clock hour. Of it. I grew up in Bolsburg, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 6: which is two or three miles east of State College
Speaker 6: where Penn State's located. Absolutely, and Bolsberg is one of
Speaker 6: the places in the country that claims to be the
Speaker 6: birthplace of Memorial Day, and Memorial Day in this town
Speaker 6: and the area is not watered down. It's a whole
Speaker 6: weekend of different activities.
Speaker 2: How far how far is your community? How far does
Speaker 2: your community trace back their Memorial.
Speaker 6: Day heritage to the eighteen hundred It started with the
Speaker 6: group of three women that decorated, like they used to
Speaker 6: call it decoration Day. Yeah, decorated grave of one of
Speaker 6: the women's sons that was killed in the Civil War.
Speaker 2: You know, I think I think, believe it or not,
Speaker 2: you might be right here. I'm just had I looked
Speaker 2: it up earlier, and I guess originally as a federal holiday.
Speaker 2: It was first observed on May thirtieth, eighteen sixty eight,
Speaker 2: following a proclamation by General John A. Logan that we
Speaker 2: should commemorate all American military personnel who had died in service.
Speaker 2: And I guess there are various claims of you know,
Speaker 2: origination of it, but yeah, your community's claim might be
Speaker 2: as good as anyone's, to be honest with you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a very nice weekend. And it is a
Speaker 6: shame that so many people people think of it as
Speaker 6: the start of summer, a day off day for picnics.
Speaker 6: And I'm trying to keep this tradition going in my
Speaker 6: family based on my grandparents of putting flowers in the
Speaker 6: graves of past relatives that have served.
Speaker 2: By the way, did you say, Rick, did you cite Bolesburg, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 2: Boa lsb u RG, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 6: It's Boa lsd u RG.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it says July fourth, eighteen sixty four, ladies decorated
Speaker 2: soldiers graves. According to local historians in Bolsburg, Pennsylvania, Bowlesburg
Speaker 2: promotes itself as the birthplace of Memorial Day. However, no
Speaker 2: published reference to this event has been found earlier than
Speaker 2: the printing of the History of the one hundred and
Speaker 2: forty eighth Pennsylvania Volunteers in nineteen oh four. In a
Speaker 2: footnote to a story about her brother, Missus Sophie Keller
Speaker 2: Hall described how she and Emma Hunter decorated the grave
Speaker 2: of his father, Reuben Hunter, and then the grave of
Speaker 2: all soldiers in the cemetery destroy did not account for
Speaker 2: Reuben Hunter's death occurring two months later in September of
Speaker 2: eighteen sixty four. So I can see with us a
Speaker 2: little bit, a little bit of a confusion there. But hey,
Speaker 2: maybe it was Bowsburg, Pennsylvania. It's interesting. There's a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of communities here that claim to have originated this story.
Speaker 2: But we do know that the National Day was a
Speaker 2: proclamation calling for decoration data to be observed annually and
Speaker 2: the nationwide by John A. Logan General who was the
Speaker 2: commander and the chief of the Grand Army of the
Speaker 2: Republic of course, the organization that fought on the Union
Speaker 2: side of the Civil War.
Speaker 6: Now, and also this weekend we put flowers on the
Speaker 6: grave of my great great grandfather that was involved with
Speaker 6: in the Civil War Gettysburg. And interesting enough, Dona, who
Speaker 6: do you remember Nancy Culp? Is that ring a bell?
Speaker 2: It rings a very distant bell.
Speaker 6: Tell me who that was, well, miss Jane Hathaway from
Speaker 6: the Beverly Hill Billy, oh right right, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right. And Nancy Health was like the secretary
Speaker 2: of the President of the Bank.
Speaker 6: Right, yeah, she was quite the character. Anyway. She is
Speaker 6: buried near that great great grandfather's marker. So we also
Speaker 6: put something on her grave too because she was in
Speaker 6: the service during World War Two.
Speaker 2: Now, she she was actually in the television series.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she was in the Beverly Hill Billy And she
Speaker 6: was an actress for lots of things, but best known
Speaker 6: for Beverly and LP.
Speaker 2: The Ulp Yeah, okay, yeah, Nancy Jane Calth She was
Speaker 2: best known best known as Miss Jane Hathaway in the
Speaker 2: series The Hillbillies. Yeah, kind of fun. Yeah, but she's
Speaker 2: been around for she was she was quite an accomplished actress.
Speaker 6: Well she was then she's kind of forgotten there, and
Speaker 6: so I put something on her grave too because she
Speaker 6: was in she was in the service during the Second
Speaker 6: World War. Yeah, I'm not sure what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was born in nineteen nineteen twenty one, and
Speaker 2: she was in the US the United States navor reserved
Speaker 2: from nineteen forty six to nineteen nineteen forty four and
Speaker 2: nineteen forty six.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, that's all good.
Speaker 2: She was a lieutenant's it's amazing when you when you
Speaker 2: get into some of these people. I think everybody knew
Speaker 2: those characters in the Beverly Hillbillies miss Jane Hathaway. That
Speaker 2: was her name. That was her her the role that
Speaker 2: she played in that in that one. That's good.
Speaker 4: That's my name.
Speaker 6: That's imprinted on her tombstone or grave marker too, so
Speaker 6: so it's.
Speaker 2: Got Nancy Culp and also Nancy Jane Hathaway.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was her famous role.
Speaker 2: I guess Jane Jane Hathaway. Yeah, I guess she was.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, let me clarify. She was Nancy Jane Culp
Speaker 2: in real life, but she was Miss Jane Hathaway on
Speaker 2: the CBS TV series The Beverly Hillbillies. Remember, Rick, I
Speaker 2: got a screwed here. Thanks so much for colling don't
Speaker 2: be a stranger man. That that was good information tonight.
Speaker 6: Well you have a good evening, and thanks a lot
Speaker 6: for bringing all this attention.
Speaker 2: Well, thanks for thanks for being a contributor tonight. That
Speaker 2: was excellent. Thanks, Ray, appreciate it. Let me get one
Speaker 2: more in here. I think I cut Rick off a
Speaker 2: little bit. Sorry, Rick didn't mean to do that, but
Speaker 2: I want to get to Sandra from Carver, Massachue. Seddra,
Speaker 2: you were next on Nightside.
Speaker 9: Welcome, Hi, thank you for taking my call. You're welcome
Speaker 9: and you're talking about the Memorial Day. Yes, yes, And
Speaker 9: I did go to the Memorial Middleborough Parade today. My
Speaker 9: grandson Dylan marched in the parade with the Boy Scouts.
Speaker 2: Okay, and that's an annual event up sure in Middleborough.
Speaker 2: An annual event.
Speaker 9: Yes, they have a very very nice parade. This is
Speaker 9: his second time marching in one of the Middleborough parades.
Speaker 2: How old your grandson? He's thirteen thirteen, so he now
Speaker 2: has an understanding of Memorial Day, probably better than most
Speaker 2: thirteen year olds.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 9: Well, he's kind of a serious kid. He's a good
Speaker 9: kid and people know him quite a bit in town.
Speaker 9: He does a lot of he's mowing lawns and doing
Speaker 9: things like that.
Speaker 2: That's okay a little he's an entrepreneur, you know, nothing
Speaker 2: wrong with that.
Speaker 9: Through he's a good kid. He's played baseball too, and
Speaker 9: now he's a good kid. And there was just one
Speaker 9: of the things you had one of your callers that
Speaker 9: mentioned lung cancer.
Speaker 2: Metho can never put out mesoploma.
Speaker 9: Right, And it was coincidental that I was talking to
Speaker 9: a man that was at the parade, and I guess
Speaker 9: he had been struggling with that had been in the
Speaker 9: military and was actually very sick a few months ago
Speaker 9: and was in the hospital with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. One of our callers was talking about that. His dad,
Speaker 2: I think it was Larry from the Cape, said that
Speaker 2: his dad had worked in one of the Navy yards
Speaker 2: and then went on to serve in the Air Force
Speaker 2: and his plane was shot down and he's a pow
Speaker 2: and I guess fifty years later he developed some form
Speaker 2: of lung cancer because of the exposure to the asbestos. Right,
Speaker 2: that's what this.
Speaker 9: Man did too, from the military. Yeah, well, be very
Speaker 9: common from the military.
Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot of that asbestos. They used
Speaker 2: asbestos for installation for many years, and they've finally figured
Speaker 2: out that there was a relationship between asbestos, uh and
Speaker 2: lung cancer. And you know, asbestos now is something that
Speaker 2: is not used in a lot of buildings Before they
Speaker 2: can be sold. They have to go in there and
Speaker 2: eradicate the asbestos, just like they had to do member
Speaker 2: with lead paint. Similar fashion that there were kids who
Speaker 2: were you chewing on chips of lead paint, and so
Speaker 2: lead can no.
Speaker 3: Longer be used in paint, right, not just which is good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, sure, you learn learn as you go along.
Speaker 2: Here and unfortunately people along the way end up. Uh
Speaker 2: you know, all the worse, all the worse for wear. Well, Sandrew,
Speaker 2: that's good to know that that your that your nephew
Speaker 2: was out there today. And uh, great son, excuse me,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, grandson. Okay, here I was making you younger
Speaker 2: and no problem. Well that's great, Sandra, And hopefully more
Speaker 2: young people like him in the years they had will
Speaker 2: develop an appreciation of Memorial Day. I think, right, I
Speaker 2: think if every kid listened to these two hours who
Speaker 2: have had, we've had some really interesting stories, all of
Speaker 2: which brought us back to what the true meaning of
Speaker 2: Memorial Day is.
Speaker 9: And I also wanted to remember my uncle Bill, who's
Speaker 9: the United States Air Force World War two shot down,
Speaker 9: had broken legs and injuries, stayed in the military, and
Speaker 9: died in nineteen fifty seven on the service of the
Speaker 9: United States building barracks after a typhoon. And he's buried
Speaker 9: in Ireland to National Cemetery. He was from Canada, really.
Speaker 2: And so he was injured during World War Two.
Speaker 9: Did you say through the United States? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he then he did he stay in
Speaker 2: the military or did he work.
Speaker 9: As a military and died in nineteen fifty seven building
Speaker 9: barracks after a typhoon on Okinawa.
Speaker 2: Was he there as a member of the military. Was
Speaker 2: he there as a contractor?
Speaker 9: He was there with the military United States Air Force?
Speaker 2: Wow, boy, I'll tell you Okinawa that was a pretty
Speaker 2: important outpost. Still is still is? Yeah, Zedra, appreciate, appreciate
Speaker 2: your call. Thank you so much and thanks for listening
Speaker 2: to night side.
Speaker 9: Okay, thank you also for taking my call. Very good show.
Speaker 3: Thank you bye.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, we've got to take a quick
Speaker 2: break and from Drake and who waits on the other side.
Speaker 2: I got room for a couple more calls to finish
Speaker 2: out the hour. So if you'd like to comment on
Speaker 2: what Memorial Day meant to you today and what it
Speaker 2: means to your family, don't be shy. Six one seven, two,
Speaker 2: five four ten thirty or six one seven, nine three
Speaker 2: one ten thirty. We will change topics. And seven o'clock, Uh,
Speaker 2: the hour that I was going to do on Donald
Speaker 2: Trump for his ongoing fight with Harvard, we will push
Speaker 2: that over till tomorrow.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: But the hour we will do after eleven o'clock is
Speaker 2: the the the the graduation speech, the commencement address, that
Speaker 2: was delivered by Kermit the Frog. This almost sounds that
Speaker 2: you don't think it's I'm putting you on, but Kermit
Speaker 2: the Frog delivered a commencement address to graduates at the
Speaker 2: University of Maryland. We'll save that after eleven. Final comment
Speaker 2: or two would be welcome on Memorial Day and the
Speaker 2: meaning of this day to all of us as Americans.
Speaker 2: Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty six one seven, nine, three,
Speaker 2: one ten thirty Back on Nightside, give Noah a call
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to the call. It's going
Speaker 2: to go to Ann from Drake It Hey an welcome
Speaker 2: you are next on night Side.
Speaker 7: Thanks for calling day, Yeah, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 7: I talked to you about this a few years back.
Speaker 7: But sometimes you think that these big incidents happened overseas
Speaker 7: during World War Two and it doesn't affect people families here.
Speaker 7: But my husband had five had five uncles out World
Speaker 7: War Two at the same time, and the youngest one
Speaker 7: begged for permission to go, you know, with the other
Speaker 7: brothers and they gave it to him and he went overseas.
Speaker 7: He's the only one who didn't come back. He was
Speaker 7: on a Belgian coop ship that was used to take
Speaker 7: soldiers to the to the Normandy coast. He was in
Speaker 7: the ship. It was used to be an Ocean minor,
Speaker 7: a Belgian coop ship, and was torpedoed and sunk by
Speaker 7: German submarine Christmas Eve nineteen forty four. And my my
Speaker 7: husband's grandmother, who you know, the the mother of the
Speaker 7: of the uncles, she got letters from Western Union telegrams
Speaker 7: that he was missing in action and that's still his
Speaker 7: body hasn't been found. Another Western Union telegram that said
Speaker 7: that you know that that the body could not be recovered.
Speaker 7: So he's he's buried back home here. Well actually not
Speaker 7: very because there's nobody, but there's a marker with the
Speaker 7: other brothers who came home from the one was married,
Speaker 7: but there were four, there were three grades, one marker
Speaker 7: and and one of the other brothers married. And he's
Speaker 7: not living in the area. He wasn't. So it's like
Speaker 7: the Arizona. Now there's a it's a protected ward race
Speaker 7: and it is a picture of that gone Alost like
Speaker 7: the Titanic down in the Arizona, down at the bottom
Speaker 7: of the ocean.
Speaker 2: So it was it off the coast of where was it?
Speaker 2: Do you recall it was torpedoed.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was going from the English Channel and it
Speaker 7: was going from from the English Channel and it was
Speaker 7: going to Shirp from Southampton to Serbourgs in France. And
Speaker 7: for the Normandy invasion when it was struck by the torpedo,
Speaker 7: it said seven hundred and sixty three soldiers were killed
Speaker 7: in fifteen crew members and many of the soldiers were
Speaker 7: rescued by British destroyers who were in the area and
Speaker 7: their way over there too. So and over in Normandy
Speaker 7: there's a it's called the Leopoldville the ship, and it's
Speaker 7: a Leopoldville incident and it's the you know, it says
Speaker 7: that there have been all kinds of books, documentaries, memorials,
Speaker 7: and the last soldiers are remembered on the Normandy American
Speaker 7: Cemetery's walls of the Missing. They have walls of the
Speaker 7: missing almost probably like the via v a memorial.
Speaker 2: You know, just realize, how you know, the events of
Speaker 2: the world changed so many lives during.
Speaker 7: That time and you know Dan Christmas Eve to get
Speaker 7: to get Western Union telegram as well. They don't do
Speaker 7: that anymore now, a chaplain. Uh, we'll go with another
Speaker 7: service member to the family to give the news.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: Of course, remember during World War two? Was it I
Speaker 2: think it was, If I'm not mistaken, I think it
Speaker 2: was half a million US soldiers died in the various
Speaker 2: theaters around the world. Europe, China, Bournom in India, Africa
Speaker 2: are different places where the war was font So I
Speaker 2: think that's the figure. Someone will probably correct me because
Speaker 2: my audience is pretty good on this sort of thing.
Speaker 7: So if I'm wrong on that, those who never came home,
Speaker 7: you know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm just trying to have one more.
Speaker 7: Thing if i can ahead. You know, the lady who
Speaker 7: just called about it was a her was her husband
Speaker 7: who was working in the shipyard and he was exposed
Speaker 7: to his best tost No.
Speaker 2: It was a it was a call at last hour.
Speaker 2: It was his dad who had worked and it was
Speaker 2: exposed to asbestos. And then he told destroy that the
Speaker 2: dad went in and joined the Air force and actually
Speaker 2: was a gunner on an airplane that was shot down
Speaker 2: and the and his dad survived the shootdown and also
Speaker 2: survived the German Fisher of War camp as well. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Oh, I was going to ask you if you could
Speaker 7: please look into this. And I know all about it anyways,
Speaker 7: but for your uh, you know, for your listening audience.
Speaker 7: It's called the Pack Act. Pact Act was signed a
Speaker 7: coup in twenty twenty two by President Biden. It gave
Speaker 7: benefits to families of servicemen who who died from Ajorn Orange,
Speaker 7: you know, from inhaling the fumes of of Yeah, and
Speaker 7: there also now that you act the benefits were include
Speaker 7: now and survivors of nine to eleven are people who
Speaker 7: work there with you know, first responders, they were exposed,
Speaker 7: and also people who I can I know all about it.
Speaker 7: I've still lot some of these performs. My husband passed
Speaker 7: away two years ago, and he was he was exposed.
Speaker 7: He was in South Korea. He's a d m V
Speaker 7: during the Vietnamese War, and he was the drinking water
Speaker 7: and the herbicides on all the glasses.
Speaker 2: You know, what I what I would see, what I
Speaker 2: would suggest on this, and is that are you looking
Speaker 2: to investigate the potential death benefit for your husband?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 7: No, I already I have that It took me a
Speaker 7: year and a half of forms and working with an agent.
Speaker 7: But for other people who aren't aware that it doesn't
Speaker 7: have to be you know, like that that person's loved
Speaker 7: one would be entitled to something.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, I don't have much to to I think
Speaker 2: you know much more about that than I do. By
Speaker 2: the way, I did look up the total number of
Speaker 2: US military debts in World War two is approximately four
Speaker 2: hundred five thousand, three hundred and ninety nine, which includes
Speaker 2: both combat and non combat debts. And they believe that
Speaker 2: two hundred and ninety one thousand, five hundred and fifty seven,
Speaker 2: so just sort of just short of three hundred thousand
Speaker 2: were battlefield debts, and then there's another one hundred thousand
Speaker 2: plus that were non battlefield deaths. So we're talking about
Speaker 2: when you the point of making is when you talked
Speaker 2: about people being notified by telegrams. That was back in
Speaker 2: the day in World War two, a fairly quick course
Speaker 2: of communications. That that's what what they called then the
Speaker 2: Department of War day, Yeah, a little different.
Speaker 7: I'd advise anybody to go to that Leopolville website. There
Speaker 7: are tons of photos, you know, uh, real photos. It
Speaker 7: used to be a crul ship.
Speaker 2: Yep, no, I hear you. You said the Belgium ship,
Speaker 2: all right, and I got to run here because I'm
Speaker 2: up against my great Thanks so much for you. I
Speaker 2: have a great knock tonight when we come back, we're
Speaker 2: going to talk about something caught my eye over the weekend,
Speaker 2: and that was that there was a very special commencement
Speaker 2: speaker at the University of Maryland, Kermit the Frog. I
Speaker 2: have mixed feelings about this. I'd love to get your
Speaker 2: thoughts right after the eleven o'clock news here on Nightside