Speaker 1: It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on
Speaker 1: Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.
Speaker 2: That's right, I'm here. It's Nick Coffee, once again emerging
Speaker 2: from the water. Somebody had a good, good point on
Speaker 2: the uh, on the I mean, it was kind of
Speaker 2: like a.
Speaker 1: Bad dad joke.
Speaker 2: But bad dad jokes hit hard for me, like in
Speaker 2: a major way, like a joke that's so corny it's
Speaker 2: really funny, or a joke that's.
Speaker 1: So like bad like you really do laugh.
Speaker 2: You know. The older I get, the more I kind
Speaker 2: of become that guy. Uh, the more I find humor
Speaker 2: in it. But somebody said the reds or not. They
Speaker 2: didn't say they actually that they did. It was their fault.
Speaker 1: They said the red zone.
Speaker 2: They shows not the red zone anymore. Howry, I'm thinking
Speaker 2: I forgot that on my show, and it's you on
Speaker 2: the text line.
Speaker 1: I forgot it.
Speaker 2: But they meant to say, I assume coffee and company.
Speaker 2: But the text reads the red zone more like the
Speaker 2: pool zone. See, John couldn't. I didn't want to step
Speaker 2: in front of it, step on it. I wanted to
Speaker 2: get John's honest reaction, because that's the I fall.
Speaker 1: For dad jokes a lot too, And I'm sure the
Speaker 1: older I get and when I eventually become a father,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that will hit on a different level as
Speaker 1: well too.
Speaker 2: Dude, I've had I've had two moments. I can't think
Speaker 2: of the other. Maybe I tried to block it out
Speaker 2: with extensive therapy to never think of it again. But
Speaker 2: it'll come to me at some point. But there's been
Speaker 2: some moments where I'm like, oh, man, I say that. Geez,
Speaker 2: I'm why would I do that? And there's one where
Speaker 2: it's almost like as it was happening, as I said it,
Speaker 2: I like I came out of my body and was
Speaker 2: looking at myself with a moment of self reflection of like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's who you are now. And that was when
Speaker 2: we were at Elma Paul a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: having dinner with the fam, me and my wife and
Speaker 2: two kids, and this guy he's coming from the back
Speaker 2: of the restaurant and he's wheeling. In fact, he's wheeling
Speaker 2: two kegs towards the front near their bar, and obviously
Speaker 2: they needed to be changed.
Speaker 1: And I don't.
Speaker 2: I didn't. It just came out of me. It wasn't
Speaker 2: any thought. It wasn't like, oh, I'm about to lay
Speaker 2: out this funny joke or clever line. I just I
Speaker 2: leaned over and said, hey, are those for me? And
Speaker 2: like that is?
Speaker 1: Is that not like the quintessential dad reaction to something
Speaker 1: like yeah?
Speaker 2: And if you're like in not that anybody would ever
Speaker 2: be in a creative space with others, you know, collaborating
Speaker 2: on clever dad jokes. You couldn't come up with that one.
Speaker 2: It would have to be and in the moment, like
Speaker 2: only a dad that's becoming peak corny dad can have that,
Speaker 2: can have that that. It's just you can't. It's it's
Speaker 2: got to be organic. There was another one too. I
Speaker 2: can't think of what it was, but again I feel
Speaker 2: like it was worse than that one that I probably
Speaker 2: after again many conversations with my therapist, I probably was
Speaker 2: just able to successfully, you know, get rid of it
Speaker 2: and no longer have it, you know, as as something
Speaker 2: that makes me feel like a dork. But anyways, if
Speaker 2: you don't get the whole reference to the water and pool,
Speaker 2: it's because of how we're set up today. We were
Speaker 2: broadcasting I'm remote, Johnny's at the studio and we're rolling
Speaker 2: along having a fun show. But because of the equipment
Speaker 2: I'm using today, there's just a little bit of a
Speaker 2: little bit of changes we've made to not make it
Speaker 2: sound as you know, poorly produced, which it sounds.
Speaker 1: I think it sounds fine. I did.
Speaker 2: I did, because we're on such a delay on the app.
Speaker 2: I did, in fact go to the to the app
Speaker 2: during our I think it was our It was our
Speaker 2: first break to go listen because it's you know, like
Speaker 2: two and a half minutes behind.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it sounds fine.
Speaker 2: But for some reason, whenever I first come on air
Speaker 2: or someone else is speaking, we did. We We probably
Speaker 2: wasted time, but at least I think we did talk
Speaker 2: through it. And I'm quite convinced John that the scenario
Speaker 2: that I put out there. As far as the onzip app,
Speaker 2: I think they made that change thinking they and they
Speaker 2: probably did make it better for the MOLT, for the
Speaker 2: bulk of their customer base, but for how we use
Speaker 2: their their their product. It made a little bit difficult.
Speaker 2: But anyways, you know, we're rolling along. I'll stop mentioning it,
Speaker 2: but again, thank you for the dad joke. Keep the
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Speaker 2: real quick on the text line here before we dive
Speaker 2: back in, This text says Nick, you copy and steal
Speaker 2: enough from KSR for your own show? Why not do
Speaker 2: a Louivell version of Unpopular Opinion Day? What do I
Speaker 2: steal from from KSR? I mean, I usually don't feed
Speaker 2: the trolls, but like, what would I I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't really know what I mean. I listened to KSR.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't listen as much as I used
Speaker 2: to be able to. But like, you know, I think
Speaker 2: it's a great show. Clearly it's super successful. I like
Speaker 2: those guys, I know all of them pretty well. But
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's anything on this show that
Speaker 2: is similar to what they do. And again that's not
Speaker 2: to say I mean, because clearly what they're doing is
Speaker 2: pretty damn successful. Maybe I could take a few pointers
Speaker 2: from what they're doing. I mean, there's show is built
Speaker 2: much differently, but I know what Unpopular Opinion Day is.
Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance to hear it today. But
Speaker 2: I think each year Matt has a day where Kentucky
Speaker 2: fans uh share unpopular opinions about UK sports or maybe
Speaker 2: it's about other things too, and yeah, maybe we could
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I've got to I've got opinions that are I think strong,
Speaker 2: but I don't really know. Like to me, how do
Speaker 2: you know? Well, I guess you know if you know,
Speaker 2: if you feel like something that you believe is unpopular
Speaker 2: among the your peers and others within your you know,
Speaker 2: fan base, or just you know you're in you know,
Speaker 2: someone similar to you, like the average person. I feel
Speaker 2: like you would know that right, like you know, or
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Because maybe don't.
Speaker 2: I guess you like self aware, you like self of awareness.
Speaker 2: Maybe if you have a really unpopular opinion and you
Speaker 2: don't know now, if you don't care that it's unpopular,
Speaker 2: more power to you. You know, that's your that's that's
Speaker 2: only something you can control.
Speaker 1: Or we're gonna say, John, The only thing that I
Speaker 1: can really think of this may not even qualify is
Speaker 1: necessarily an opinion. It's more so just me and nature.
Speaker 1: But the fact that I don't put sauce or syrup
Speaker 1: on any sort of food ever that I eat, whether
Speaker 1: it be dressing that kind of e'ven dressed that a
Speaker 1: long time ago, but I am anti sauce syrup dressed
Speaker 1: anything you can name that's liquidy that you put on food,
Speaker 1: with the exception of pizza of course.
Speaker 2: Cereal.
Speaker 1: Oh there you go, it's another one. No milk on cereal.
Speaker 1: I don't really eat cereal very often, but no milk
Speaker 1: on cereal.
Speaker 2: I haven't had a bowl of cereal in probably twenty
Speaker 2: five years.
Speaker 1: Did you ever have a favorite cereal as a kid? Ah? Man,
Speaker 1: I love cinnamon, toast, crunch and cookie crisp, pretty much,
Speaker 1: all of the ones that that aren't good for you.
Speaker 1: I do like, you know, like honeynut, cereos and stuff too.
Speaker 2: Though I would say I didn't mind cereal. I just
Speaker 2: to me it wasn't a meal. It wasn't and I
Speaker 2: never ate breakfast growing up. So for me, when it
Speaker 2: comes to cereal, if I ever wanted to snack, that
Speaker 2: would never be like, oh, I'm gonna have a.
Speaker 1: Bowl of cereal.
Speaker 2: And I think that's how a lot of people like adults,
Speaker 2: that's what that's usually like. My wife, if she's hungry,
Speaker 2: wants a snack, wants something sweet at night, She'll go
Speaker 2: make a bowl of cereal. And I think a lot
Speaker 2: of people do that, maybe not at night, but like
Speaker 2: cereal is not clearly just for children, and even the
Speaker 2: even the sugary like candy type cereal that is frosted
Speaker 2: flakes and whatnot, Like it's not just for kids. Maybe
Speaker 2: it was supposed to be, but a lot of adults eated.
Speaker 2: But for me. Do you remember corn pops?
Speaker 1: I do, the little yellow They weren't a little popcornie.
Speaker 2: Speaking of popular, they weren't.
Speaker 1: Like, were they popular, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: They're not on the mount rushmore of like big time
Speaker 2: cereals for kids. But for some reason I loved them.
Speaker 2: They were just sweet enough. I used to eat them
Speaker 2: at my grandma's house, so that was probably my favorite cereal.
Speaker 2: But anyways, you not putting anything like any any sauce, dressing, milk,
Speaker 2: like that's not really an unpopular opinion. That's just psychopathic behavior, right,
Speaker 2: I mean that's I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what we established way back whenever
Speaker 1: we first discussed that.
Speaker 2: Well I shouldn't, I mean, it's not he's not a psychopath.
Speaker 2: But like that, Like I've had a lot of people
Speaker 2: ask me was that real? And I'm like yeah, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, why would we make that up? Like that's
Speaker 2: you know, well and it just so happened. How did
Speaker 2: it even come up on the show? Like I really
Speaker 2: don't remember that is wasn't when I was you.
Speaker 1: Know, sometimes you bring up food topics and back whatever.
Speaker 1: I was an infant on Coffee and Company. You may
Speaker 1: have been asking me about a specific I don't know,
Speaker 1: sauce or dressing, and I was like, that's probably when
Speaker 1: it came out.
Speaker 2: I'm sure, but you you know, but you have awareness
Speaker 2: that that that you are in a minority when it
Speaker 2: comes to that, right for sure? Yeah, yeah, because so
Speaker 2: you know, I wouldn't say that's unpopular, it's just you know, like, anyways,
Speaker 2: here's what I'll do. And again, what what I mean?
Speaker 2: You produce both shows at least you know here and there.
Speaker 2: What would be similar? Like what would I steal from
Speaker 2: ks R?
Speaker 1: I think maybe he's just referring content, but like you're
Speaker 1: going to talk about the same stuff. It's Louisville, Kentucky.
Speaker 2: So yeah, anyways, but here's what I'll do in the
Speaker 2: five o'clock hour, I will I'll lay out some strong
Speaker 2: I'll give you four maybe five, because I got four
Speaker 2: right now on the top of my head that I'll
Speaker 2: lay out that. Put it this way, if you were
Speaker 2: to say it at work in your cubicle among all
Speaker 2: Louisville fans, you know, meaning like that work with you.
Speaker 2: Or let's say this, You're at a tailgate at LNN
Speaker 2: Cardinal Stadium, getting ready to watch Jeff Bram and his
Speaker 2: team light up a scoreboard against somebody, and you're obviously
Speaker 2: tailgating with Louisville fans and there's a group of them
Speaker 2: there and you're about to share an opinion, and you
Speaker 2: know that by sharing it the majority, maybe all others
Speaker 2: will disagree, and some will look at you potentially crazy
Speaker 2: because they'll say, what, I've got four things that I'll
Speaker 2: share at five o'clock that I feel like would be
Speaker 2: similar to that. But I'm also not going to be
Speaker 2: shocked if like this was said two three years ago,
Speaker 2: I'd get that reaction, But now nobody would react anyway.
Speaker 2: They would say, you know, I get it, And you
Speaker 2: know what that means. Nick's always right. Nick always predicts
Speaker 2: the future. That's what that means. But anyways, we'll do
Speaker 2: that a little bit later on, because I look, I
Speaker 2: love to steal and if KSR did it, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: do it, right, I mean, what are we without KSR?
Speaker 1: I mean, what we be talking about here?
Speaker 2: Shout out KSR promo co KSR. Anyways, was that a
Speaker 2: little sensitive to that?
Speaker 1: I think I was. I feel like you. I mean,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have seen it as hurt by it, but
Speaker 1: I mean I also can't see your facial expression to yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just you know, I here's I'm sure
Speaker 2: there are plenty of other shows around here that people
Speaker 2: you know love and prefer over this one. And if
Speaker 2: that's the case, again, that's that psychopathic behavior. But everybody
Speaker 2: has something that makes them a psycho. But I do
Speaker 2: at least try to be original. That's like, I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's gonna be great. We're gonna try to
Speaker 2: make you laugh, We're gonna try to have fun. We're
Speaker 2: gonna try to keep you informed, not take ourselves too
Speaker 2: seriously on this show. But like, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: mean I would hesitate to do something or discuss something
Speaker 2: if I knew it. Led Now, there's certain things that
Speaker 2: are going to be obvious that discussed because again, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, play the hits Louisville Kentucky content. That's really
Speaker 2: what this is, mixed in with a lot of other stuff.
Speaker 2: But I try not.
Speaker 1: There stole from us, maybe unintentionally, but remember when we
Speaker 1: had the the Manly Men conversation thing, and this was
Speaker 1: back a year or so ago, we were talking about
Speaker 1: things that make us feel unmanly. KOs Are did the
Speaker 1: same thing about a week later. There you go, So
Speaker 1: maybe they're stealing.
Speaker 2: There you go. I mean, who's the real thief here?
Speaker 1: Exactly? Come at us?
Speaker 2: Which I do want to play something Matt said on
Speaker 2: his show yesterday. It's got a lot of attention about
Speaker 2: Louisville football and their strength to schedule because one of
Speaker 2: the taglines for KSR is is facts are optional. And
Speaker 2: it's not because they just you know, and I'll defend
Speaker 2: these guys to an extent because there are people who
Speaker 2: hear something that was wrong, and you know, I think
Speaker 2: the facts are optional is more of a way to
Speaker 2: kind of make fun of themselves that they get stuff wrong.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that it is a line that is
Speaker 2: used to let people know that we're going to make
Speaker 2: stuff up and run with it. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: think that's what it is, but we'll save that for
Speaker 2: later as well, because I do want to talk some
Speaker 2: basketball in just a second. But when it comes to
Speaker 2: the strength of schedule stuff, I did lead with it
Speaker 2: to start the show. I mean, it's pretty simple if
Speaker 2: you look at historically both programs and their historical strength
Speaker 2: to schedule and where their strength of schedule currently is
Speaker 2: right now. And yet I feel like one of the
Speaker 2: reasons that one of the reasons that it's become a
Speaker 2: bigger talking point lately for Louisville and Kentucky fans about
Speaker 2: strength to schedule is because you don't play in the
Speaker 2: first game anymore, and you know, there's no way to
Speaker 2: really know how you stack up against each other until
Speaker 2: And this is not to say Louisville is at a
Speaker 2: disadvantage because they played the last game of the year,
Speaker 2: trust me. I mean, you can play them first game,
Speaker 2: eighth game, fourth game, whatever. If you're not ready to
Speaker 2: play your rival and beat them and you lose, that's
Speaker 2: on you. But when it was the first game of
Speaker 2: the year, we were able to really just you know,
Speaker 2: spend a good chunk of the summer. I mean, and
Speaker 2: I kind of don't remember us breaking down like the
Speaker 2: matchup their receivers versus our defensive backs. But you know
Speaker 2: that was a long time ago. Maybe we did, but
Speaker 2: now you're going back and forth about who's better, and
Speaker 2: by the time we get to November, it just, I
Speaker 2: don't know, it feels flat. I don't know what. Like
Speaker 2: there have been years where both teams trotted in at
Speaker 2: six and five or seven and four, whatever it may be,
Speaker 2: and you knew that it's all about bragging rights, but
Speaker 2: you know, this game really doesn't mean anything but another
Speaker 2: win for somebody. It's not going to change the bolt
Speaker 2: projections at times. So you know, when you played in
Speaker 2: Week one, nobody knew what the outlook was, nobody knew
Speaker 2: realistically what you were so you could could you could
Speaker 2: lose to your rival, and of course anytime you lose
Speaker 2: it sucks. Losing in the first game, losing in the
Speaker 2: last game are going to be a pain in the
Speaker 2: ass no matter what. But if you were able to,
Speaker 2: you know, win that game. You know it's a non
Speaker 2: conference game, and you'd know, I guess if the team
Speaker 2: you beat is expected to be good or bad.
Speaker 1: But like it was just better.
Speaker 2: And I'll you know, I hate beating that dead horse
Speaker 2: because you know it's probably never gonna change. Although I
Speaker 2: do think if they did request to move it, I
Speaker 2: don't think they would be met with like, oh, hell no,
Speaker 2: we're not doing that. I think they would the AEC
Speaker 2: would probably say, I mean, if you want, knock yourself out,
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't care. When we think of arrivals
Speaker 2: in the a SEC and the SEC, we don't really
Speaker 2: think of you guys. But again, we'll get back into
Speaker 2: that a little bit later on. Let's talk about John Rostein.
Speaker 2: Shall we I give me a grade one through or
Speaker 2: give me a number one through ten? Ten means you
Speaker 2: love him, one means you hate him. What are your
Speaker 2: thoughts on one? John Rostein? Mister company man, John?
Speaker 1: And it really depends on if I'm in the mood
Speaker 1: for some John Rothstein. But if I'm gonna, if I'm gonna,
Speaker 1: if it's a good day for me, and I'm and
Speaker 1: I'm seeing his content, I'm saying he's about eight because
Speaker 1: there are some things that he says that have kind
Speaker 1: of become cliche, like the you know, the whole by game,
Speaker 1: what is it? The tweet he always puts out the oh,
Speaker 1: the epitome of brutality that's kind of run its course
Speaker 1: a little bit. He'll never sleep a moment. Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: that's the that's probably the worst most cliche thing he does.
Speaker 1: We sleep in May, which also I've never really understood
Speaker 1: because there's only like a few days of basketball in
Speaker 1: April for college basketball at least, So I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess I kind of get it. But there's times where
Speaker 1: I love me some Rothstein. I love his passion overall.
Speaker 1: I would say, on an average day, I give him
Speaker 1: an eight as his content.
Speaker 2: I'll say, yeah, I mean, look, I think I put
Speaker 2: it this way. John Rostein is somebody as far as
Speaker 2: somebody that covers college basketball in that role specifically, I
Speaker 2: think he's great, Like he is plugged in, he works
Speaker 2: his tail off, he has great sources, like he breaks news,
Speaker 2: and we need more people like that in college basketball.
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, like, I don't think if
Speaker 2: we had more entertaining personalities covering the sport in a
Speaker 2: media role or a reporter role or whatever commentator, that
Speaker 2: it would make it up there with football, because that's
Speaker 2: just not realistic. But I do truly believe that one
Speaker 2: of the reasons why college basketball doesn't move the needle
Speaker 2: nationally because the people that we consider to be big
Speaker 2: time entertainers in the sports media world love him or
Speaker 2: hate him. They're the ones you see all over your screen,
Speaker 2: whether it's your phone or your television, and they don't
Speaker 2: talk a lot about college basketball, and unfortunately, when they do,
Speaker 2: you can quickly figure out within a few minutes they
Speaker 2: don't really know much about the sport. So like that,
Speaker 2: I don't know who fixes that. But Rosstein is one
Speaker 2: of those guys that is I mean, he eats sleeves
Speaker 2: and breathes college basketball and he doesn't sleep until May,
Speaker 2: as he says, so in that area, I give him
Speaker 2: a ten. But he doesn't have personality at all. Like
Speaker 2: I think he's back college basketball robot, and that doesn't
Speaker 2: I mean that you know you are who you are,
Speaker 2: but I when I see him try to do things
Speaker 2: that you know, make him stand out, get him attention,
Speaker 2: it's it's psychopathic behavior that's really not clever or entertaining.
Speaker 2: Like whenever you've got a presidential debate going on where
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's challenging Joe Biden to a round of golf
Speaker 2: and then Joe Biden counters with you know you're going
Speaker 2: to carry your clubs you had sex with a porn star, Like,
Speaker 2: that's something I think I'm gonna remember the rest of
Speaker 2: my life that happened in a presidential debate. While that's
Speaker 2: going on, you got Rostein strategically tweeting out Prairie View,
Speaker 2: A and M will travel to take on Dayton November
Speaker 2: eighteenth standalone game. We sleep in May like the track
Speaker 2: record of him, like he thinks the way to look
Speaker 2: cool and stand out and get attention is to tweet
Speaker 2: about the most obscure college basketball information at a time
Speaker 2: where nearly everybody on the planet or certainly in the country,
Speaker 2: is consumed with something else that, in all seriousness, is
Speaker 2: bigger than sports. And that's to me, Like, that's not like, oh,
Speaker 2: why this guy's funny, this guy's mean, he's crazy. No,
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, that guy's weird.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: It is that it makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yes, So I think he's probably aware though, that he's
Speaker 1: just you know, accepted that he thinks he's trying to
Speaker 1: be cool. I think he just accepts that, like, you know,
Speaker 1: that's who he is. He's gonna be weird and maybe
Speaker 1: it'll rub some people the wrong way sometimes.
Speaker 2: Well, and it doesn't rub me the wrong way, like
Speaker 2: it doesn't make me mad, but like that's to me,
Speaker 2: that's like, what are you aiming for here? And by
Speaker 2: the way, he knows what he's doing, like he's not,
Speaker 2: he's not, Like I can't think of who it was
Speaker 2: I remember being it was a Twitter thread that showed
Speaker 2: screenshots of like big things happening in the world, you know,
Speaker 2: like tragic things world news. And he has he's got
Speaker 2: a draft saved away in Twitter about you know, such
Speaker 2: and such, you know, Johnny Balls, he gets a fifth
Speaker 2: year medical red shirt at Butthole Tech. Big news in
Speaker 2: the Horizon, you know, Horizon Plateau conference, like, you know,
Speaker 2: like he knows that nobody's like people are put it
Speaker 2: this way when people are are refreshing the timeline like
Speaker 2: crazy to see reaction about a big piece of news,
Speaker 2: a world of end or something they're gonna see. It's
Speaker 2: John Rosstein tweeting about we just had our presidents go
Speaker 2: back and forth about porn stars and golf. And he's
Speaker 2: tweeting about, you know, some random juco player who's been
Speaker 2: denieding like it's just like, I just don't. I'm not
Speaker 2: offended by it, I'm not bothered by it, but I
Speaker 2: feel like, if you're gonna do something that does make
Speaker 2: you stand out, like why do you choose that? So
Speaker 2: something that made him stand out to me in a
Speaker 2: non weird way, It is acc power rankings to get,
Speaker 2: you know, to get set for the college basketball season.
Speaker 2: So I'm not going to sit here and tell you
Speaker 2: that this is, you know, the worst thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: But come on, now, there are as this, there's eighteen
Speaker 2: players in the air I'm sorry, eighteen teams in the
Speaker 2: ACC now, and he has Louisville as the eleventh best team,
Speaker 2: and I just can't quite figure out why. Like I'm
Speaker 2: not saying he like, I think you could look at
Speaker 2: Louisville's right, look at what Pat Kelsey did in the
Speaker 2: transfer portal, know Pat Kelsey's pedigrey as a coach, and
Speaker 2: still have the obvious question mark that is, well, can't
Speaker 2: he do it at this level and have Louisville no
Speaker 2: worse than like fifth? I mean, and again, but maybe
Speaker 2: I'm doing something that I'm accusing him of doing because
Speaker 2: I think there are people that'll just know Louisville got
Speaker 2: better with a new coach, and it could be they
Speaker 2: could have hired me, and people would probably look at
Speaker 2: it and say, well, you know, louis Is probably not
Speaker 2: gonna be good, but man, they're gonna better.
Speaker 1: Than Kenny Payne.
Speaker 2: And maybe I shouldn't have used as an example, because
Speaker 2: it could have been anybody could have been my four
Speaker 2: year old son, and we probably would have been in
Speaker 2: better shape and would have been respected a little bit
Speaker 2: more by those who cover college hoops. But my point
Speaker 2: is this, I'm looking at Miami at number five and
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, huh, how, no way. But that's me that
Speaker 2: is thinking about Miami being the most disappointing team in
Speaker 2: the country last year. It doesn't mean they're gonna be
Speaker 2: the most disappointed team in the country this year, right
Speaker 2: like they were in the final four two years ago.
Speaker 2: So well, you know, if they were at number seven
Speaker 2: or eight, I probably still would have scratched my head
Speaker 2: and said huh, But at eleven, I just can't. I've
Speaker 2: tried because I do have a little bit of a
Speaker 2: fearness of being viewed as somebody who can't view things objectively.
Speaker 2: As a Louisville fan and I've discussed that recently on
Speaker 2: the show. But objective, not objective, like I mean, he
Speaker 2: has the projected starting lineup of Chucky Hetburn, Corean Johnson,
Speaker 2: Terrence Edwards, Javon Hadley, and Cason Pryor with Noah Waterman,
Speaker 2: Connie Russ, Rayne Smith, Trey Oure, James Scott, Big Frank
Speaker 2: Anselom as your projected bench. And I know none of
Speaker 2: those guys were all Americans, but I mean collectively, you've
Speaker 2: got some really good pieces. And I just look at
Speaker 2: like Georgia Tech at number ten. Kenny Payne lost to
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. Folks, I mean when you look at the newcomers,
Speaker 2: I mean I'm looking at the transfers that George Tech
Speaker 2: brought in. I mean, there's nobody on this list that
Speaker 2: looks like they're gonna be.
Speaker 1: Great.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're not even big name transfers. And by
Speaker 2: the way, they lost Miles Kelly, who was their best
Speaker 2: guy last year Syracuse at number nine. Again, Red Autry's lucky.
Speaker 2: I mean, in fact, I'll give Kenny Payne this. He
Speaker 2: got screwed on the road at Syracuse on that goltending call.
Speaker 2: You remember, right, that was a game that Louisville should
Speaker 2: have won. I mean, I mean they were good, but
Speaker 2: like they should have won that game.
Speaker 1: Syracuse.
Speaker 2: I mean they bring back JJ Starling, who's a pretty
Speaker 2: good player. They brought in Eddie Lampkin, the big guy
Speaker 2: from Colorado. But I mean their transfers aren't anybody of note.
Speaker 2: I know Pittsburgh's made the tournament the last couple of years,
Speaker 2: but I mean we really think that's sustainable with somebody like,
Speaker 2: I mean, what's their coach's name. Let's forget his name.
Speaker 2: He's a forgettable name, got a big neck, got a
Speaker 2: big fat neck. Jeff Caple. I mean you trust in
Speaker 2: Caple when he's lost. Blake Henson and bub Carrington and
Speaker 2: Frederico Frederico, which, by the way, if you're gonna do
Speaker 2: double name, first name, last name, same name, Frederico is
Speaker 2: a good one. That's fun to say. Ferderico Ferto Rico.
Speaker 2: And then at number seven, Virginia. Okay, Like I mean,
Speaker 2: I can't say that that's crazy, but I mean, looking
Speaker 2: at their personnel that people really think Virginia is going
Speaker 2: to be good this year NC state number six, I
Speaker 2: can I can understand that I have no problem them
Speaker 2: being picked ahead of Louisville Miami. Again, like I'm probably
Speaker 2: being a little you know, I'm probably being a little
Speaker 2: harsh on how bad they were a year ago. But
Speaker 2: I'm looking at their personnel and they've got some decent
Speaker 2: guys back, and they did well in the Portal. Clemson
Speaker 2: at number four, okay, you know, without Joe Girard, Alex Hemingway, PJ. Hall,
Speaker 2: of course, like you know, we'll see. I mean, they
Speaker 2: made the Elite eight last year, so that's not crazy.
Speaker 2: And then number three is wake Forest. I don't know
Speaker 2: about that one. I mean, I like their coach Steve Forbes,
Speaker 2: and I'm looking at their roster on paper and it's
Speaker 2: not bad. And then Duke in Carolina one and two.
Speaker 2: I have no problem with that, and that's justified. So again,
Speaker 2: like I can't claim it's the craziest thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: It did remind me, oh yeah, Louisville has been the
Speaker 2: worst team in this league the last few years, so
Speaker 2: picking them at number eleven, in the eyes of some,
Speaker 2: might be looked at as him being really you know,
Speaker 2: Homerish towards Louisville, which I think is nonsense. But again,
Speaker 2: like this was a reminder where we of how we
Speaker 2: are going to be viewed by some based off the
Speaker 2: fact of how bad we were in previous years, which
Speaker 2: everybody knows doesn't matter, but it's still fresh on the
Speaker 2: minds of those that aren't as closely plugged in around here.
Speaker 2: And I don't say that to mean that they don't
Speaker 2: know what they're talking about, but it's just the reality
Speaker 2: of it. Louisvill basketball is going to have to do
Speaker 2: something results based with wins and you know, wins with
Speaker 2: value to change how people view their ceiling. I think
Speaker 2: anybody you asked would say, yeah, they're gonna better with
Speaker 2: Kenny Pa gone. But as far as like being a
Speaker 2: tournament team, a lot of people are probably going to say, yeah,
Speaker 2: I believe it when I see it, because I haven't
Speaker 2: seen Louisville look like anything other than a terrible program
Speaker 2: in the last few years. All right, quick break, Sorry
Speaker 2: I went too long there. I get a little distracted.
Speaker 2: Clock management's really bad whenever I don't.
Speaker 1: Get time not playing the music beds today, so I
Speaker 1: can't really usher you out.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, all right, quick break, We will keep it
Speaker 2: rolling along here. Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on
Speaker 2: Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 1: That's right, Coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's. Right here
Speaker 1: on Sports Talk seven ninety, I think it's time once
Speaker 1: again to raise our man Nick Coffee from the deep
Speaker 1: waters in a submarine. Here we go, Nick, are you
Speaker 1: back with us? Was that I've emerged?
Speaker 2: No, it worked. I didn't know what a submarine sounded like.
Speaker 1: Now I do. That was our original phone power up
Speaker 1: noise that we use when we on the phone lines
Speaker 1: a while back. That's hey, it could be used for
Speaker 1: both of those, I guess.
Speaker 2: So when it comes to sound design, I think you've
Speaker 2: you've made the right choice with that with that clip there.
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Speaker 2: zero seven ninety. This text says, excuse me, Nick. They
Speaker 2: didn't excuse me. I just burkeed on the air, which
Speaker 2: is really in professional But they said, Nick, you're worried
Speaker 2: about getting the game moved to the first of the season.
Speaker 2: I'm more worried about keeping the rivalry alive as soon
Speaker 2: as the SEC expands their schedule. There's no way Kentucky
Speaker 2: keeps Louisville a part of it. This is the first
Speaker 2: time texture, so I can't tell if that's a text
Speaker 2: that is, I can't tell if you're a louisvill fan
Speaker 2: or a Kentucky fan. I actually would be interested to know,
Speaker 2: because I don't think that that would ever happen, Even
Speaker 2: though when asked about it, both Stoops and Barnhart have
Speaker 2: not shied away from addressing the fact that they would
Speaker 2: be in a It would be a tough decision for
Speaker 2: them and I'm paraphrasing because I don't know the exactly.
Speaker 2: They never said, yeah, if we go to nine games
Speaker 2: or drop in Louisville, but Barnhart specifically has sort of
Speaker 2: alluded to the fact that it would make them have
Speaker 2: to reevaluate things if they did add an SEC game
Speaker 2: to the schedule, which is understandable, meaning like, if you
Speaker 2: now have to play a ninth SEC team, you're going
Speaker 2: to have to figure out what makes the most sense
Speaker 2: for you as far as what you want to do
Speaker 2: with those other three games. You're in a league to
Speaker 2: where you don't need to go out and beef up
Speaker 2: your non conference schedule. You've never done that before, so
Speaker 2: why would you start doing it now? So you know
Speaker 2: you're not doing that right, Like, so when you think
Speaker 2: about reevaluating, the reevaluating would be in their perspective, Well,
Speaker 2: now we have an SEC team that you know, no
Speaker 2: matter who it is, they're going to be better than
Speaker 2: the two MAC teams we play and the G five
Speaker 2: team we play, and who knows, certainly they'd be better
Speaker 2: than Louisville depending on who it is, right, you know,
Speaker 2: if there's a ninth game, could because the league's really
Speaker 2: good let's be real about it. So Kentucky football, meaning
Speaker 2: their program, Mark Stoops, his players, their fans, they're not
Speaker 2: scared to play Louisville and they know that. We know that.
Speaker 2: So on what planet would they feel like dropping Louisville
Speaker 2: because of a ninth SEC game and keeping the other
Speaker 2: three common components within that schedule? Again, no Power five
Speaker 2: non conference person opponent outside of Louisville, two G five
Speaker 2: teams and an FCS team, right like EKU or Murray
Speaker 2: or something. There's no scenario they could do that and
Speaker 2: it not look like they're scared of a lost Louisville.
Speaker 1: There's no way.
Speaker 2: That that could be viewed in any other way. But
Speaker 2: we know they're not scared. They shouldn't be scared. I
Speaker 2: mean maybe years ago whenever they weren't win and they sucked.
Speaker 2: But they win this rivalry game. I mean they I
Speaker 2: hope hopefully they never win one again, but they know
Speaker 2: how much it means to them. Stoops. I mean, look,
Speaker 2: he has done a lot to change Kentucky football, make
Speaker 2: no mistake about it. They're in a much different world
Speaker 2: than they were before he got there, and that's a
Speaker 2: credit to him. One, they win a lot more, they
Speaker 2: recruit a lot better, they have good fan engagement. They've
Speaker 2: just been better, and they beat their rival. I mean,
Speaker 2: he didn't in the first half of his tenure in Lexington,
Speaker 2: but you know, since twenty seventeen, they haven't lost to Louisville,
Speaker 2: so that matters. Like that, that's a component to why
Speaker 2: Stoops has viewed the way he is, by his administration,
Speaker 2: by his fan base. So why would you not want
Speaker 2: to play it, you'd be I mean, so what I
Speaker 2: think it is is I'm just I just choose to
Speaker 2: believe that it's just something that, like you know, that
Speaker 2: everybody wants, right, because let's be honest, I would say
Speaker 2: that the disc like, if Louisville and Kentucky you're going
Speaker 2: to continue to play each other in football, if Kentucky
Speaker 2: goes to a nine game schedule. Maybe I'm wrong here,
Speaker 2: but I see no scenario where the one person that
Speaker 2: makes that decision is Mark Stoops because I think it's
Speaker 2: it's been pretty clear he gets whatever he wants from
Speaker 2: his athletic director.
Speaker 1: That's quite clear.
Speaker 2: So if Mitch Barnhart's like, wait a second, we got
Speaker 2: we got to reevaluate, we got to figure out and
Speaker 2: then Stoops walks into his office and says, what are
Speaker 2: you doing? We're playing the game. Then they're playing the game,
Speaker 2: and I just can't. So I think Stoops Barnhart collectively
Speaker 2: know that it would be a big deal, and it's
Speaker 2: all in their hands, as mentioned, mostly Stoops's hands. So
Speaker 2: I think that's made it to where they don't commit
Speaker 2: to it and shoot down any scenario where that game
Speaker 2: would go away because they like having that power. Again,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to I'm reaching a little bit here, certainly,
Speaker 2: but it's because I'm trying to understand and any level
Speaker 2: of logic or reasoning as to why Kentucky, if the
Speaker 2: SEC goes to nine, would remove Louisville when they've clearly
Speaker 2: benefited from it and they can claim who cares, just
Speaker 2: another game. Anybody who says that has more lack of
Speaker 2: awareness than anybody on the planet. I mean, they tell
Speaker 2: them themselves pretty frequently as far as how much that
Speaker 2: means to them that they win the game, and it should.
Speaker 2: That's not me knocking them, because look, one of the things,
Speaker 2: like if I could tell you one thing that bothers
Speaker 2: me more than anything about Louisvill football in the last decade,
Speaker 2: it's how many times you've lost to them, and just
Speaker 2: being honest with you. All right, quick break, we'll come
Speaker 2: back on the other side. Keep this thing rolling along.
Speaker 2: Don't forget. I've got my list coming up for you.
Speaker 2: We were accused of well, I was accused of copying
Speaker 2: something from KSR, So by the way, I was accused
Speaker 2: of copying from KSR then asked to copy off their
Speaker 2: show with an unpopular thing. And I guess I've taken
Speaker 2: the bit here because that's what I'm gonna do. I've
Speaker 2: got four opinions about Louisville sports, some more recent, some
Speaker 2: old school like things of the past, and I'm going
Speaker 2: to share them with you, and hopefully you don't, you know,
Speaker 2: throw things at the radio because you're mad at me,
Speaker 2: because like, these are things that I feel like if
Speaker 2: I said among a lot of Louisville fans, maybe not everybody,
Speaker 2: but the majority would disagree and some would say you're
Speaker 2: an idiot. But I hear that enough. Anyway, I've been
Speaker 2: called worse. So we'll do that in the five o'clock hour.
Speaker 2: Keep it locked. It's coffee and company. Feel about Thorton's
Speaker 2: right here on Sports Talk seven.
Speaker 1: Ninety I don't really what drove me to play this song,
Speaker 1: but I love the vibes it brings. It's it's kind
Speaker 1: of a sad song, I guess Owner of a Lonely Heart,
Speaker 1: but for some reason, and you know, you know I'm
Speaker 1: a big rock guy. I'm nick. I know you you're
Speaker 1: aware of that big rock guy too, but this is
Speaker 1: I love the vibes that this song brings. And I
Speaker 1: know I've got to lower the volume to bring you
Speaker 1: in on the conversation, to get you out from underwater.
Speaker 1: But I'm I feel like you would enjoy that song
Speaker 1: a lot too, if you haven't, you know, if I'm
Speaker 1: sure you've heard of it's from your era of.
Speaker 2: Course, Oh yeah, Owner of a Lonely Heart that I
Speaker 2: can't think of the word I would use to describe
Speaker 2: sort of that that not genre, but just sort of
Speaker 2: that vibe because I'll put it the best way I
Speaker 2: can put it is that it's not a song I'm
Speaker 2: like finding on on Spotify because I need it. But
Speaker 2: when it's on, I'm like, okay.
Speaker 1: Here we go.
Speaker 2: Like you you go to this song and just let
Speaker 2: it create a playlist based off this song, you'd get
Speaker 2: so many bangers it's gonna be a good playlist.
Speaker 1: No I am.
Speaker 2: I'm totally with you, all right, So not a whole
Speaker 2: lot of time left here in the four o'clock hour,
Speaker 2: But this is something that just fascinates me, and I
Speaker 2: don't know, it makes me not a well, I feel
Speaker 2: like a dummy a lot in life. But there's a
Speaker 2: girl who's in the Olympics from Canada or Alicia Numan
Speaker 2: Internet and if you Olympics and you wouldn't know who
Speaker 2: she is, however that she is decided for.
Speaker 1: I saw that.
Speaker 2: And it Oh I only knew of her because everybody
Speaker 2: started sharing the clip of her doing that, and I realized,
Speaker 2: oh wow, you don't typically see that, and I just
Speaker 2: assumed it was something for her to be, you know,
Speaker 2: being a call. Can you I guess an only uh,
Speaker 2: only fans. They're not taking.
Speaker 1: I think you're kind of gonna get your back. You're
Speaker 1: kind of kind of let it ride because there will
Speaker 1: be moments where you would come in and sound perfectly clear.
Speaker 1: But you were mentioning the only fans. I believe you
Speaker 1: were asking me as only fans, the same thing as
Speaker 1: a porn star, right, it's what you're asking.
Speaker 2: Well, I said, sex worker instead of porn star, because like,
Speaker 2: I could have an only fans and only post pictures
Speaker 2: of my knuckles and that wouldn't make me a sex worker.
Speaker 2: So I guess it just depends on what you do
Speaker 2: on only fans. But when I saw it, I'm thinking,
Speaker 2: you know, first of all, while I guess she's letting
Speaker 2: people know right away that she's not ashamed if they
Speaker 2: find out that she not only is an Olympic athlete
Speaker 2: doing you know, pull vaulting, but she also has an
Speaker 2: only fans where she might you know, she might share
Speaker 2: I don't know, cooking recipes, or she might share sex.
Speaker 2: I don't know, you can put you I'd.
Speaker 1: Be pull vaulting into a crowd for other reasons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, so she's she. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't know what's behind her her only fans account. But
Speaker 2: the reason I mentioned kind of feeling like an idiot
Speaker 2: is ps affirmed that that did exactly what she wanted
Speaker 2: it to do, meaning make her a lot of money,
Speaker 2: so good for business. She has apparently made over one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars specifically from the Olympics, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure she got attention about being an Olympic athlete
Speaker 2: that has an only fans and that enough was like,
Speaker 2: all right, well I got to go check this out.
Speaker 2: But doing the torking thing put it into a different
Speaker 2: level of attention and it got enough people to sign
Speaker 2: up to where for a specific says here, this is
Speaker 2: from uh, this is from male Sport. M Ai l
Speaker 2: Sport a Twitter account that looks like it. Now I'm
Speaker 2: curious as to what the hell male Sport is because
Speaker 2: it is a big outlet with you know, nearly a
Speaker 2: million followers, sure home for the latest news videos and
Speaker 2: viral moments.
Speaker 1: So there you go.
Speaker 2: They're they're covering viral moments. She certainly had one of
Speaker 2: those when she tworked after winning a bronze, but says
Speaker 2: here that after her tworking in Paris, she she celebrated
Speaker 2: a one and fifty dollar I'm sorry, one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars boost from her previous monthly earning. So again,
Speaker 2: maybe just knowing that an Olympic star has an only
Speaker 2: fans got the horny section of the internet willing to
Speaker 2: throw Let's be real, immediately twerking after winning a gold
Speaker 2: medal and vaulting, I mean again, she went straight from
Speaker 2: pole vaulting to the mat to jumping up and twerking,
Speaker 2: and it got a lot of attention. Like she did
Speaker 2: it to make money, and that is a savvy entrepreneur.
Speaker 2: Sex or no sex, porn or no porn. She just
Speaker 2: wanted to make some money and it worked. And by
Speaker 2: the way, I don't think you're entitled to like anything
Speaker 2: when you pay, like, oh, I have only things nice.
Speaker 2: I made a lot of money to go stick around her,
Speaker 2: stuck