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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI,

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<v Speaker 1>a M six.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty Nature, Mark talks about pontificates about pop culture, Ron

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<v Speaker 2>and Report with Mark Ronner.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Later with Mo Kelly on k IF. I am

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<v Speaker 3>six forty live everywhere on the iHeart App, I'm Mark

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<v Speaker 3>Ronner and it's the Runner Report. Time is merciful to us.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes it easier to let things go, to forget

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<v Speaker 3>terrible stuff, to put things into perspective, to forgive all

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<v Speaker 3>the arguments and drama that tortured this as teenagers. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even remember the details so clearly now awful things

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<v Speaker 3>people do to us. Moe's insults and abuses are those

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<v Speaker 3>worth hanging on to. This is why we have the ressis.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like the international criminal Court from movies we should

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<v Speaker 3>never forget or forgive that were inflicted on us, which

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<v Speaker 3>we paid money for. The Golden Raspberry Awards recognizing the

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<v Speaker 3>worst movies are this weekend, same as the oscars. The

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<v Speaker 3>perpetrators of these Code Browns would like you to forget them.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't owe them that. Some well known filmmakers are

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<v Speaker 3>weirdly thin skinned about movie critics, and some who I

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<v Speaker 3>really like too. Some have even barred critics from press

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<v Speaker 3>screenings over harsh reviews, and to them, I say, blow

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<v Speaker 3>it right up your skirt, Director Karen's. You're putting something

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<v Speaker 3>out in the world, asking people to pay for it,

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<v Speaker 3>but don't want to be subject to reviews.

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<v Speaker 4>Move to North Korea.

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<v Speaker 3>Next you'll suggest we get rid of the Consumer Financial

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<v Speaker 3>Protection Bureau. Oh wait, they're doing that crap. I played

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<v Speaker 3>by the same rules. I've endured countless reviews of my work,

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<v Speaker 3>mostly in comics, some in video games, and hey, sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>it's obvious the person who cranked out the reviews at

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<v Speaker 3>Dunning Krueger Case, who didn't even understand what they read.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't matter. You let them have their say. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>price of hawking your art in public. Which brings us

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<v Speaker 3>to the list of Razzie nominees. The winners were supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to announced tomorrow, but I just checked the site and

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<v Speaker 3>they're out now. I won't keep you in suspense. They

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<v Speaker 3>all suck, so my picks and then the real winners,

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<v Speaker 3>starting with worst Pictures. Some strong contenders here. First border Lands.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a video game adaptation, always the mark of quality.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is an astonishingly irritating one with almost no

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<v Speaker 3>redeeming elements. Joker Folly Adoue an unbearable musical sequel that

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<v Speaker 3>genuinely felt like the director's middle finger to anyone dumb

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<v Speaker 3>enough to want a sequel. Madame Webb, one of those

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<v Speaker 3>off brand Sony Marvel movies with Dakota Johnson, is some

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<v Speaker 3>kind of lame psychic e mt. She winds up mentoring

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<v Speaker 3>three irritating female future heroes. I have rarely seen something

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<v Speaker 3>that gave me worse pangs of empathy embarrassment for everyone involved,

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<v Speaker 3>except for Megalopolis. That's The Godfather and Apocalypse Now. Director

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<v Speaker 3>Francis Ford Coppola's long time passion project had some bad

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<v Speaker 3>word of mouth going in, but I thought it deserved

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<v Speaker 3>the benefit of the doubt, and it was a bold

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<v Speaker 3>move for him to finance it largely himself.

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<v Speaker 4>But I was wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>And if he winds up wearing one of those barrels

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<v Speaker 3>with suspenders, that's on him. And finally, Reagan, that's a

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<v Speaker 3>biopic of the Gipper with Dennis Quaid. Well, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>about to watch a puff piece that romanticizes him because

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<v Speaker 3>I have actual memories of him. My worst pick for

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<v Speaker 3>worst picture is Joker fully ado Megalopolis was at least

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<v Speaker 3>a well intentioned big swing. You shouldn't have expected much

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<v Speaker 3>going into Borderlands, except for an explanation for why Kate

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<v Speaker 3>Blanchett was slumming it and someday, not now, but someday,

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<v Speaker 3>Madam Webb, may be funny for a trash movie night

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<v Speaker 3>when your friends come over and you all get loaded

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<v Speaker 3>and give it the mystery science theater treatment. The winner,

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<v Speaker 3>according to the Razzies, was Madame Webb. Worst actor, Jack

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<v Speaker 3>Black from Dear Santa. I wouldn't watch that if I

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<v Speaker 3>were getting frostbite in the theater was playing in was

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<v Speaker 3>the only place to get warm. Zachary Levi Harold in

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<v Speaker 3>the Purple Crayon, Nope, I'm an adult. Dennis Quaid from Reagan.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyone can do Reagan. I just did it, did you

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<v Speaker 3>hear well? Jerry Seinfeld Unfrosted. I'm afraid my judgment of

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<v Speaker 3>Seinfeld might be unfairly affected by what a jerky was

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<v Speaker 3>as himself in Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee. Not so

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<v Speaker 3>much on frosted as insufferable. But the winner for me

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<v Speaker 3>was Joaquin Phoenix and Joker and especially annoying self indulgent performance.

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<v Speaker 3>So the best thing you could say about that is

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<v Speaker 3>because of the ending, he won't be back for a

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<v Speaker 3>third one. Sorry, it's been out for a really long time.

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<v Speaker 3>The official winner Jerry Seinfeld Worst Actress. We've got Kate

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<v Speaker 3>Blanchett from Borderlands. She still looks weirdly hot in it,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm gonna move on. Lady Gagon The Joker Movie

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<v Speaker 3>a contender for sure, but it's like singling out just

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<v Speaker 3>one of the guys who clubs Baby Seals. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>all on her. Bryce Dallas Howard Argyle. Didn't she do

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<v Speaker 3>enough damage that miserably dumb Jurassic Park movie trilogy. I

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<v Speaker 3>think she was in world. I only what effort Jurassic

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<v Speaker 3>bowel movement. I've compulsively watched nearly every spy movie and

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<v Speaker 3>show ever made no exaggeration. I love that stuff. But

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<v Speaker 3>after seeing the trailer for our Guyle, I thought, Nah,

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<v Speaker 3>life's too short. I don't hate myself enough yet to

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<v Speaker 3>watch this. Dakota Johnson Madam Webb. She gave off a

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<v Speaker 3>palpable vibe of just not wanting to be there, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was honestly the only relatable thing about her in

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<v Speaker 3>the movie. The winner for me was Jennifer Lopez in Atlas.

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<v Speaker 3>You may like her, you may enjoy your music, you

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<v Speaker 3>may find her attractive. But as an actor, let's just

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<v Speaker 3>say she's not getting a lot of the parts. Judy

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<v Speaker 3>Dench passes on. If we sent her to do a

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<v Speaker 3>live version of this movie in Ukraine, Russia would pull out.

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<v Speaker 3>The official winner. The Razu winner is Dakota Johnson from

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<v Speaker 3>Madam Webb. Now I'm gonna skip over supporting actor, supporting actress, director.

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<v Speaker 3>No need to pile on, We'll skip the The director

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<v Speaker 3>winner actually was Francis Ford Coppola, and he issued a

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<v Speaker 3>statement he was a pretty good sport about it. Worst

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<v Speaker 3>screen combo, any two obnoxious characters, but especially Jack Black

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<v Speaker 3>from border Lands. That really is a movie where you're

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<v Speaker 3>actively rooting for all the protagonists to die. Any two

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<v Speaker 3>unfunny comedic actors from Unfrosted pass but thanks for the warning.

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<v Speaker 3>The entire cast of Megalopolis, I'm not sure the blame

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<v Speaker 3>lies with the cast in Megalopolis, the Ford movie. They

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to work with the legendary director. It was his vision,

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<v Speaker 3>They had the script he gave him. It's sort of

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<v Speaker 3>like a group of people all falling through the floorboards

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<v Speaker 3>of an outhouse. I mostly just felt sorry for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Dennis quaidon Penelope Anne Miller is Ronnie and Nancy and

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<v Speaker 3>Reagan pass and my pick is the same as the

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<v Speaker 3>winner Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga from the Joker movie

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<v Speaker 3>give him the goal? Do they love each other? Is

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<v Speaker 3>one of them playing the other? Can we at least

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<v Speaker 3>agree that couples should never sing to or with each

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<v Speaker 3>other in public? Man, I felt like an awkward guest

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<v Speaker 3>at the home of a couple friends who break into

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<v Speaker 3>a drunken shouting argument then try to recruit me for

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<v Speaker 3>a three way Yuck yuck? Where's My Keys? The worst prequel, remake,

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<v Speaker 3>rip off or sequel first Rebel Moon two The Scargiver.

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<v Speaker 3>My God, I wasted hours of my life on Zack

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<v Speaker 3>Snyder's Rebel moon Ie the ass Number or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>It was called.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like with Dune, it was one of those fool

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<v Speaker 3>me twice shame on me situations, like an even dumber

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<v Speaker 3>version of the latter Star Wars sequels, except nobody asked

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<v Speaker 3>for them. Moving On the Crow or remake exceptionally bad

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<v Speaker 3>with Bill Scarsguard as the Crow. It felt like something

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew Tait extorted him into doing Mufasa the Lion King.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm an adult, didn't see this one, Tawala. Now moving

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<v Speaker 3>on Craven the Hunter that put a nail in the

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<v Speaker 3>coffin of Sony Spider Verse and possibly arn Taylor Johnson's

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<v Speaker 3>career unless Amazon hauls off and makes him the next

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<v Speaker 3>James bond Ug The Winner, Joker fully Adou from me

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<v Speaker 3>sequel that drives home the whole less is more Adage?

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<v Speaker 3>What was the and I think that was the official

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<v Speaker 3>winner as well. We're screenplay. These movies had screenplays. We

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<v Speaker 3>have Joker, we have Craven the Hunter, Madam Webb, Megalopolis,

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<v Speaker 3>Reagan and it's kind of a photo finish with all

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<v Speaker 3>these they're all terrible. But a howler in the Craven

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<v Speaker 3>movie stuck with me from when he's in an elevator

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<v Speaker 3>and he pulls out a knife.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's this This that's my Traplin knife. Use it for work? Huh?

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<v Speaker 4>What you do for work? Exactly? I hunt.

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<v Speaker 3>People.

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<v Speaker 4>He hunts people, Grandpas, he hunts people.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, Craven's full of his hilariously a bad dialogue. My

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<v Speaker 3>father puts evil into the world. I take it out

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you guys saw Craven. I saw

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<v Speaker 3>it by myself. This wasn't a group outing. There's another one.

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<v Speaker 3>I stared death in the face and for the first

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<v Speaker 3>time I saw my true self. There's more, but I

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<v Speaker 3>just I would have given this one to Craven.

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<v Speaker 4>They gave it to Madam Webb.

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<v Speaker 3>But really these are all flip These are all winners

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<v Speaker 3>in the sense that they got an evening and some

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<v Speaker 3>cash out of us, and we should never forget that.

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<v Speaker 4>There's your Runner report mode. You feel like you need

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<v Speaker 4>a shower now.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, I think I've seen more Razzy nominees that I

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<v Speaker 5>have Academy Award nominees.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, I'm the same as you.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw most of these, and there's some of the

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<v Speaker 3>Oscar nominees I'm just not gonna see because I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>interested in them.

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<v Speaker 4>So what's that say for our taste? It's probably pretty

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<v Speaker 4>damn good. I mean, we saw him. It doesn't make

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<v Speaker 4>it a good movie.

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<v Speaker 5>But just because you're nominated for an Oscar doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 5>that you're going to garner my interests. Most of these movies,

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<v Speaker 5>and we'll talk about it next segment. I just didn't

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<v Speaker 5>have any desire to see and part of wanting to

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<v Speaker 5>be entertained is subject matter that appeals to me. It

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't mean that the content or the movie subsequently is

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<v Speaker 5>going to be good, but I would much rather take

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<v Speaker 5>my chances with Madam Webb than the Brutalist.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the Brutalist is good. I liked it, but you've

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<v Speaker 3>got to be in the mood to settle in for

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<v Speaker 3>That's my point three. Plus our movie and Guy Pearce

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<v Speaker 3>is terrific in The Brutalist. But you know, just as

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<v Speaker 3>you've talked about with the Grammys and the music industry,

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<v Speaker 3>if you think the Oscars are one hundred percent based

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<v Speaker 3>on merit, you've got another thing coming.

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