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your support. All Right, so we had a bunch of
the confirmation hearings up in Washington, DC over the last
couple of days, and you know we had we had
Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Junior, Well Bessent. But that was like
last week, I want to say, so I was not
able to watch all of them. Cash Betel was yesterday,
so I wasn't able to catch all of them. But
I did watch the Tulsia Gabbard one. And you've probably
heard some of the soundbites by now if you haven't,
some of these are some of these are very good.
Speaker 2: I don't think that.
Speaker 1: I've pulled any because I pulled them last night and
forgot to write up my cut sheet on it. But
I've got the cuts, but I forgot to write the cutry.
But I think most of this stuff is coming from
her opening statement. And there was a particular exchange that's
got a lot of the coverage viral, you know, videos
and the like where what's his name, Bennett? I think
out of Colorado? You know, is Edward Snowden a trader?
Is he a trader? Is he a trader? And she
wouldn't say he was, And she wouldn't say that he
was a brave hero, which she had said in the past.
And I will tell you, like I have always been
cautious about Snowden. I didn't follow the story when it
initially broke. I've never gone back to do like a
deep dive on everything. I've heard bits here and there
over the years. But I was watching last night Megan
Kelly's podcast and she had Glenn Greenwald on, and Glenn
Greenwald was the guy that Edward Snowden gave the documents too.
So Snowden took this information. He was working as an
NSSA contractor. He took the information and he handed it
off to Glenn Greenwald, who published it over at the
intercept which went so far woke left that he left
the thing he founded, the publication he founded, So his
take on it, obviously he's got biased there, but it
was interesting to hear his side of this story in
the way he was talking about what Snowden did in
that like, I wasn't aware of this, and.
Speaker 2: Maybe you are.
Speaker 1: But most of the stuff that Snowden took has never
been made public, which I find to be surprising. Like
I thought, because I didn't follow the case closely at
the time, I thought that what he took he handed
off and then it all got published. But he apparently
told Glenn Greenwald when he saw what the NSA was doing,
basically spying on all of us, and it shocked and
defended him to the point where he was like, this
needs to be this needs to be divulged. And he
took the information and he gave it to not a
foreign adversary, which I thought was a really good point
that Greenwald had made last night in that had Snowden
wanted to commit treason, wouldn't he have gone and given
the information to an adversarial nation. To me, that's a
very logical question, and it's and I think it's instructive.
Right when he had all of these options for how
to put the information out there. Did he try to
hurt the American government? Did he try to hurt the
American people? Or was he trying to alert the American
people that the government was hurting them? And so his
action to hand it off to a media person, and
he told Greenwald accord. According to Greenwald, you know, print
what you think is okay? Like what like He's leaving
it up to the Intercept. You guys do with this
what you think has to be done with it.
Speaker 2: And so he.
Speaker 1: Basically put the Intercept in charge as a gatekeeper for
them to follow journalistic standards whatever they might be over
at the Intercept at the time, and to say we're
not going to publish this. Sources and methods are going
to be protected, that sort of thing. And so what
they focused on was the programs that the NSA was
using in order to scoop up and spy on all
of us, which they were doing, right, the stuff that
like laws were changed because of the leak that Snowden
did in order to try to stop what was going
on from occurring any longer. I also was unaware. I
always thought that Snowden had gone to Russia, and that
was proof that he was in collusion with Russia. Now,
maybe he did keep a copy for himself and he
handed all of it off to Russia.
Speaker 2: That's possible. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But as Greenwald tells it, he got stuck in Russia.
He wasn't trying to go to Russia. He got stuck there.
He was passing through on his way to another country. Yes,
he was fleeing America after the theft of the of
the data, which Tulsi Gabbard does talk about in the hearing.
She did say he broke laws and Snowden from his
Russian social media account because that's he's.
Speaker 2: Still over there.
Speaker 1: Snowden said, if she needs to call me a trader,
if she needs to say this stuff about me, she
should do so.
Speaker 2: She should call me these things.
Speaker 1: And this was used against her as evidence, like you
won't even say that he's a trader, but he says
he's a trader. No, he's saying Tulsi Gabbard is so
needed to run the DNI because she will come in
and clean it up. This is what America needs, is
for her to be in that position. And so if
she needs to throw me under the bus, she should
do that. I give you my permission, not that you
need it, but I give you my permission.
Speaker 2: To do it. I thought that is.
Speaker 1: An interesting piece of evidence, right, Why would you lie
about this stuff? Also, I do not like the fact
that the vote to confirm or reject her is going
to be in closed session, that the Senate Intelligence Committee,
that they're going to be that they're going to be
voting on.
Speaker 2: Her in private.
Speaker 1: I want to know who voted for her and against
her should have the courage like you guys. You guys
conduct all this stuff in secret, and you're going to
have this public hearing and then you're going to reject
her or I guess maybe confirm her.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but those votes should be public. You
should have to stand in front of us. You work
for us.
Speaker 1: You should stand in front of us and say yes
or no and tell us why that's it. So, Trump's
nominee to be the nation's spy chief faced three hours
of intense questioning from lawmakers at a feisty and sometimes
contentious confirmation hearing, as Democrats peppered former Congresswoman Tulca Gabbard
with questions about her experience in the intelligence field and
judgment about international affairs. Gabbard, a former Democratic House member,
strongly defended her record and fitness to head the Office
of the Director of National Intelligence. Still, even some Republicans
on the majority Republican Intelligence Committee were not wildly enthusiastic
about Trump's unorthodox pick. Gabbard is a lieutenant colonel in
the US Army Reserves, and she cannot lose a single
Republican vote in the committee. She is considered to be
one of the most vulnerable of Trump's nominees. This is
according to an article at The Washington Times by Mike Glenn.
Senator Mark Warner of Virginia, the top Democrat on the
Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, accused her of blaming NATO
for Russia's invasion of Ukraine. And she made comments on
Twitter the night that Russia invaded, and she was pointing
out that Russia views NATO expansion as an existential threat
against it. Now, you can disagree with that, but that
doesn't mean that Russia doesn't view it like that. And
her pointing that out, I think is exactly what you
would want somebody who's advising on intelligence matters to tell
the president. Hey, this is what Russia views this as
because Russia has always said, you know, no nukes in Ukraine,
no NATO expansion all along our borders and all this stuff.
They've been saying all of this stuff for a very
long time, and NATO has continuously encroached, encroached, encroached, and
taken in more and more countries. And that's why people
say this is the fault of NATO. Like I don't
necessarily agree with that, Like this is the re I
think Putin has expansionist, you know, views and wants to
try to reassemble the USSR. Yeah, like he's got his
own grandiose plans. But it does provide a helpful justification
if you're trying to sell this to the public. Right
when you're going out and going around invading all of
your neighbors and stuff Georgia, Crimeria, Crimea and all that.
It does make it easier to say, like we've been
telling them, no expansion, and look at them here they
are expanding again. And remember it was America. I believe
it was Bill Clinton, maybe it was Obama.
Speaker 2: I forget who.
Speaker 1: We told Ukraine get rid of your nukes and we'll
look out for you, and they did, and that was
a terrible piece of advice because we're not right, like
they're not part of NATO, and so maybe this is
like why we keep sending them all this money. We
feel bad because they got rid of all their nukes.
Had they had the nukes, they might not have gotten invaded.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe it would have been a nuclear war.
I don't know.
Speaker 1: But her pointing this stuff out doesn't disqualify her, not
at all. I don't see that. And then the oh,
the Assad thing. She went on the trip, she debriefed
everybody on it when she came back, Like again, just
because you go on these trips and you talk to
these world leaders like her main foe is al Qaeda,
the people who attacked us on nine to eleven. And
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got a new government coming in that's freaking al Qaeda. Like,
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Speaker 2: All Right, A couple clips here.
Speaker 1: This is Tulsi Gabbard opening statement at her confirmation hearing.
Speaker 3: I'm honored and grateful to President Trump for his trust
and confidence in nominating me to serve our country as
the Director of National Intelligence at a time when trust
in the intelligence community, unfortunately is at an.
Speaker 4: All time low.
Speaker 2: True.
Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer admitted a few years ago, quote, you take
on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday
at getting back at you.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 3: For too long, faulty, inadequate, or weaponized intelligence have led
to costly failures and the undermining of our national security
and God given freedoms enshrined in the Constitution.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 3: The most obvious example of one of these failures is
our invasion of Iraq based upon a total fabrication or
complete failure of intelligence. This disastrous decision led to the
deaths of tens of thousands of American soldiers and millions
of people in the Middle East, mass migration, destabilization, and
undermining of the security and stability of our European allies.
The rise of isis, strengthening of al Qaeda and other
Islamus Jihattist groups and strengthening Iran. Here are just a
few other examples. The American people elected Donald Trump as
their president not once, but twice, and yet the FBI
and intelligence agencies were politicized by his opponents to undermine
his presidency and falsely portray him as.
Speaker 4: A puppet of Putin.
Speaker 3: Title Ie Offiza was used illegally to obtain a warrant
to spy on Trump campaign advisor Carter Page, using a
Clinton campaign funded.
Speaker 4: False dossier as their so called evidence.
Speaker 3: Yes, Biden campaign advisor Tony Blinken was the impetus for
the fifty one former senior intelligence officials letter dismissing Hunter
Biden's laptop as disinformation, specifically to help Biden.
Speaker 4: Win the election.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 3: Former D and I James Clapper lied to this committee
in twenty thirteen denying the existence of programs that facilitated
the mass collection of millions of Americans phone and Internet records.
Speaker 4: True too, it was never held accountable.
Speaker 2: That's true. Never.
Speaker 4: Under John Brennan's.
Speaker 3: Leadership, the CIA abused its power to spy on Congress
to dodge oversight, lied about doing it until he was caught,
and yet has never been held responsible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brennan is a commie.
Speaker 3: Under Biden, the FBI abused its power for political reasons
to try to surveil Catholics who attend traditional Latin mass
labeling them as quote unquote radical traditionalist Catholics.
Speaker 1: Bad dreads personally.
Speaker 3: Just twenty four hours after I criticized Kamala Harris and
her nomination, I was placed on a secret domestic terror
watch list called Quiet Skies. Sadly, there are more examples.
The bottom line is this, this must end. President Trump's
reelection is a clear mandate from the American people to
break this cycle of failure and the weaponization and politicization
of the intelligence community and begin to restore trust in
those who've been charged with the critical task of secure
our nation. If confirmed as D and I, I will
do my very best to fulfill this mandate and bring
leadership to the intelligence community with a laser like focus
on our essential mission ensuring the safety, security, and freedom
of the American people. As the President's Principal Intelligence Advisor,
I'll begin by leading by example, checking my own personal
views at the door, and committing to delivering intelligence that
is collected, analyzed, and reported without bias. Prejudice or political influence.
Speaker 1: So I don't know who I heard this from. May
have been one of the members on the committee. If
we are to expect, right, all of the members of
the Senate Intelligence Committee, oxymoron joke right there. But if
we are to expect all of them to engage in
partisans squabbling and sniping and all of that, you know,
out in public. But then, you know, when this stuff
really matters, we check our politics at the door. We
go into these closed sessions and we learn all of
this stuff, and we're all on the same page. We're
all on the same team America. Well then why doesn't
she get that same allowance?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Are you saying that she is unable, that she is
not capable of checking her own biases or opinions and
just going where the truth and the data and the
evidence leads her. But you are, You're more capable of
doing that than she is. I find that to be well,
let me just say hard to believe. I find that
hard to believe that Mark Warner is able to do it,
but Tulsa Gabbard is not.
Speaker 2: I find that difficult to believe. Tulsa Gabbard has said
what she believes to be true and has suffered consequences
for doing so. And that is a person of courage
and I esteem that. I value that right now. Others
may not, that's fine, but I do. And I feel
like that is indicative of how she might approach her job,
that she may have to say things that she doesn't
agree with, you know, her opinion or politics or whatever.
But if this is the evidence, if this is what
we have, then I'm going to give it to you,
even if I don't agree. Although, like I'm I think
at some point you're doing assessments in your judgment it's
this or whatever. But I don't understand why she's being
held to a standard that these people that are deciding
on her post that somehow know that they can they
think that she can't do the thing that they are doing.
I'm not buying it, not buying the cover story. All right.
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of the Tulsea Gabbard hearing yesterday for her confirmation as
a Director of the National Intelligence DNI chief. And there
are a couple of Republicans. There are a couple of
Republicans that are potential no votes. Susan Collins is one
of them, but Tom Cotton is not. Tom Cotton is
seems supportive of her. He said, I am dismayed by
the attacks on Miss Gabbard's patriotism and her loyalty to
our country. Let me remind everyone Miss Gabbart has served
in our army for more than two decades. She has
multiple combat tours, and she still wears the uniform to
this day. Cotton noted that Gabbert had undergone five background
checks from the FBI and answered every question and called
her quote clean as a whistle. He acknowledged that some
of the nominee's views might be unconventional. He said that
outside the box thinking might have helped the US avoid
foreign policy quagmires, such as two decades of fighting in
Iraq and Afghanistan. He says maybe Washington could use a
little more unconventional thinking. During her opening statement, Gabbard warned
the American public about some of the attacks against her
that we might be hearing now.
Speaker 3: Before I close, I want to warn the American people
who are watching at home. You may hear lies and
smears in this hearing that will challenge my loyalty to
and my love for our country. Those who oppose my
nomination imply that I am loyal to something or someone
other than God, my own conscience, and the constitution of
the United States, accusing me of being Trump's puppet, Putin's puppet,
Assad's puppet, a Guru's puppet, Mody's puppet, not recognizing the
absurdity of simultaneously being the puppet of five different puppet masters.
The same tactic was used against President Trump and failed.
The American people elected President Trump with a decisive victory
and mandate for change. The fact is what truly unsettles
my political opponents is I refuse to be their puppet.
I have no love for Assad or Godafi or any dictator.
Speaker 4: I just hate Al Qaeda.
Speaker 3: I hate that we have leaders who cozy up to
Islamist extremists, minimizing them to so called rebels. As Jake
Sullivan said to Hillary Clinton, quote, al Qaida is.
Speaker 4: On our side in Syria.
Speaker 3: Well, Syria is now controlled by an al Qaida offshoot
HTS led by an Islamis Jihadis who danced in the
streets on nine to eleven and who is responsible for
the killing of many American service members. Democrat senators in
the past resorted to anti Christian bigotry against some of
President Trump's judicial nominees like Amy Coney Barrett and Brian Bouchet.
I condemn those actions as a Democrat in Congress at
the time, as religious bigotry must be thoroughly condemned by
all of us, no matter the religion. Unfortunately, there are
some Democrat senators who still don't understand the principle of
freedom of religion and Article six of the Constitution quote
no religious tests shall ever be required as a qualification
to any office or public trust under the United States. Unfortunately,
they're once again using the religious bigotry card, but this
time trying to foment religious bigotry against Hindus and Hinduism.
If anyone is sincerely interested in knowing more about my
own personal spiritual path of Hinduism, I welcome you to
go to my account on x or I'll share more
on this topic. If confirmed as Director of National Intelligence,
I will continue to live by the oath that I
have sworn at least eight times in my life, both
in uniform and as a member of Congress. I will
support and defend our God given freedoms enshrined in the
Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic,
and I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I have to admit, is there something about
Hinduism or followers or Hindus like that make them unsuited
to be DN I I miss that. I mean I
took I took religion classes. We did a whole thing
on Hinduism. And I admit I was not informed that
her her being a Hindu would somehow another prevent her
from assessing intelligence. I was that was not one of
the That was not one of the pillars I recall.
But I could have missed it.
Speaker 2: It's possible.
Speaker 1: She said she is there to clean up the intelligence community. Okay,
that's what she is going in to do, because that's
what Trump said he would do because he was victimized
by a weaponized intelligence community.
Speaker 3: I'll work to end the politicization of the intelligence community
and ensure there is a clear mission focus in the
IC on its core mission of this unbiased a political
collection and analysis of intelligence to secure our nation. I'll
work to rebuild trust through transparency and accountability. This is
a national security imperative, and I'll work to assess and
address efficiencies, redundancies, and effectiveness across OD and I to
ensure focus of personnel and resources is on our core
mission of nowational security. In my meetings that I've had
with many of you, you expressed bipartisan frustration about recent
intelligence failures as well as the lack of responsiveness to
your requests for information, whether it's the surprise October seventh
Hamas terrorist attack to the sudden takeover of Syria by
Islamist extremists, failures to identify the source of COVID, anomalist
health incidents, UAPs, drones, and more.
Speaker 4: If confirmed.
Speaker 3: I look forward to working with you to address these issues.
Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, I remember the drone story. Remember
that one? Yeah, like people were talking about it. It
was a while ago, but yeah, like I remember that story.
Apparently the White House says that though they were not
adversarial drones. So it's nice to learn after the fact,
I guess. I mean, maybe you don't believe that, or
maybe you do believe it. Maybe you believe it because
it's a Trump administration. Maybe we don't believe it because
it's a Trump administration. I don't know, But why did
it take so long for that information to finally be
delivered to us.
Speaker 2: What's up with that? I don't yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, and then the UAP issue just in general, like
they call them UAPs, but it's UFOs. You'll always be
UFOs to me. Okay, UFO sounds way scarier.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 1: Maybe in another fifty years or something, UAP will sound scarier.
UAP sounds like an accounting software to me. But UFO,
like it just automatically conjures up the X files tune.
You know. In my mind, UFO is something that will
snatch you up. A UFO is going to be doing
probes on you.
Speaker 2: Ew. But that's what a UFO is usually round two.
And you know aliens with big eyes and big heads
and very little bodies.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's because of evolution that they end
up with the very big heads in the small bodies
because you don't need you know, because you get so
smart you can do everything, and then the body just
kind of atrophies, so they get the really small bodies.
Either that or they're just working off of, you know,
pictures and drawings from the actual aliens that they caught.
It roswell. Now we're gonna find out about that too.
I read about Roswell. Gosh, thirty years ago I was
a kid. I found some book on some shelf, the
Roswell Incident I think it was called, and I read
that book and ever since then, I'm like, yeah, that
sounds like it probably happened. And no, no, no, the
president really did have to go to a dentist for
a chip tooth in the middle of the night and Roswell,
New Mexico.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, that really happened.
Speaker 1: But no, maybe we'll get that along with the JFK
RFK MLK data.
Speaker 2: By the way, have they released that stuff yet? I
feel like they should have already released it. Nobody's really
talking about that though.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: I say, give her a shot, right, she's not going
to do any worse than what we've already been seeing, right,
unless she's going to like orchestrate some sort of a
you know, fake Russian collusion hoax against some democrat. I
don't know, Like it seems like the bar's pretty low,
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Pete calendar here one final segment before I'm out of
here for the weekend. I'm not rubbing that in. I'm
just letting you know it's a programming note seven oh
four five sevenh eleven ten, But honestly not really going
to take any more calls because I don't have any
more time, and I have another SoundBite to play, which
I probably won't even have time to play because I've
been rambling right now and now I can't play it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I got an email.
Speaker 1: From Mark to Pete at thepeteclendershow dot com about the
acronym UAP which is now being replacing UFO with the UA.
And I've never been on board with this, just like
I was not on board with, you know, reclassifying Pluto.
Speaker 2: Like it's a planet. I don't care.
Speaker 1: You could say whatever you want about whatever. I don't care.
To me, it's a planet. I know too few planet
names already, and like I know that one, So don't
be now telling me that I can't call it that.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call it whatever I want to.
Speaker 1: Look, if Trump can call it the Gulf of America,
then I can call Pluto a planet.
Speaker 2: Okay, No, well, no, I mean, look.
Speaker 1: The reason I don't know a lot of planet names
is because there are so many of them. And no,
it's it's part of my birthright. Americans are not required
to know geography, and honestly, knowing planet names is kind
of geography. It's like part of the same thing. So
that's how I view it. But ohs I just deleted
it Marx's email. I didn't even read Marx's email. UAP,
He says, UAP sounds like another mid Eastern country that
we cannot find on a map. That's probably right, it does. Yeah,
it's right over there, next to Saudi Arabia. Oh and
then I just saw this, uh, Journavis gernaviics jo ure
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a minute, that's unpossible. Are you telling me that we
can manage pain without getting addicted to drugs and turning
to a life of crime and heroine and death.
Speaker 2: That's nuts.
Speaker 1: Surely the pharmaceutical industry would not have created.
Speaker 2: Some sort of marketing campaign.
Speaker 1: And by the way, look, I know I give Big
Pharma a lot of guff I do know that, but
they do a lot of good too. I have been
accused to being a defender of the pharmaceutical industry because
I don't think that they're all bad.
Speaker 2: They do some good things.
Speaker 1: A lot of people's lives have been saved by a
lot of medications. Okay, so it's not all one or
the other. Again, false choices reject the false choices. So
apparently this new drug blocks proteins responsible for triggering pain
signals before they reach the brain. That's very interesting. Okay,
so there's that. Back to the Tulsi hearing. Mike Benz,
who is a former State Department cyber guy. He says,
regarding the fact that the vote's going to be held
in private on whether to confirm or recommend confirmation for
Tulsi Gabbert, he says, nothing says you can totally trust
the intelligence community, like having to have a secret vote
on who can run the intelligence community. Right, yeah, trust
us on this. She's gonna be great or not. Like
you could trust all this, but we can't tell you
how we're voting on her.
Speaker 2: It's just it's not a good look. All right. That'll
do it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening.
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